HE IS HIDING ME FROM HIS FAMILY!!

Summary

Podcast Summary: Not Loveline - "HE IS HIDING ME FROM HIS FAMILY!!"

Release Date: May 12, 2025

Hosts: Tana Mongeau and Trish Paytas

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1. Tattoos and Family Acceptance

The episode opens with a discussion about the challenges adults face when introducing partners who defy their family's expectations, particularly those with tattoos and unconventional appearances.

• Tana (00:00): “Adults have trouble, like, upsetting their parents over, like, someone they're dating is the craziest thing.”
• Trish (00:08): “Don't put this tattooed baddie through hell.”

Trish shares her experience with changing her appearance to navigate online harassment, leading to a conversation about identity and self-expression.

• Trish (00:21): “I switched looks. I literally took the wig off Trisha Paytas' head… trying a brunette moment when it comes to me.”
• Tana (00:41): “I love this look on you. You look so good.”

2. Jonas Con vs. Tanacon

Tana and Trish compare the recent Jonas Con event to their own Tanacon, highlighting organizational differences and fan experiences.

• Tana (01:16): “You were Tanacon and you were there fraudulent.”
• Trish (02:29): “The Jonas Brothers were there. But Tanacon was just not organized… people were trying to get in.”

They discuss attendee experiences, special guests, and the overall atmosphere, drawing parallels and contrasts between the two conventions.

3. Parenting: Screen Time and Teaching Sharing

The hosts delve into parenting styles, particularly focusing on screen time for children and teaching them to share.

• Tana (04:41): “That's like, so mean to do to your kids though… they're still learning about sharing.”
• Trish (05:17): “You might just have like, really… your kids are perfect.”

They explore the balance between restricting screen time and fostering creativity, citing examples like "Cocomelon" and discussing their own approaches with their children.

4. High School Memories: Stealing and Social Dynamics

Tana and Trish reminisce about their high school years, sharing stories about stealing from malls and the social pressures of carrying popular books.

• Trish (17:08): “My binder had Lil Wayne in it for all of my years.”
• Tana (18:07): “I got banned from the mall for like a year. I got hired at one of the PacSun…”

They highlight the ease of shoplifting during their youth and the subsequent consequences, offering humorous takes on past behaviors.

5. Pop Culture: Family Guy and Robert De Niro Films

The conversation shifts to their differing tastes in entertainment, particularly their views on "Family Guy" and classic Robert De Niro movies.

• Trish (11:05): “I've really have not seen any classic movies. I've never seen Titanic…”
• Tana (12:09): “Someone was like, let's watch Family Guy. I'm like, get out.”

They debate the merits of adult cartoons versus traditional cinema, reflecting on how their preferences shape their personalities and relationships.

6. Listener Call #1: Dating a Firefighter and Abandonment Issues

A caller seeks advice on dating a firefighter while dealing with abandonment issues. Tana and Trish offer their perspectives on the emotional challenges and the realities of such a relationship.

• Caller (23:48): “...he's a firefighter and I have abandonment issues because he's gone all the time.”
• Trish (24:23): “People always romanticize, like, I want to date a firefighter… but it’s like, yeah, I would lose it every day.”

They emphasize the importance of trust, communication, and understanding the inherent risks of such professions.

7. Listener Call #2: Non-Consensual Sharing of Nudes

Another caller discusses the trauma of having non-consensual nudes shared by an ex-boyfriend. The hosts provide emotional support and practical advice on handling such violations.

• Caller (29:00): “...recorded without my consent and spread amongst many, many friend groups.”
• Trish (44:50): “I’d say something that's very tana moo. You are the main character…”

They address the emotional impact, societal blame, and the frustration with the judicial system's handling of such cases, advocating for self-worth and resilience.

8. Listener Call #3: Tattooed Girlfriend Hiding from Conservative Family

A female caller expresses frustration over her boyfriend's reluctance to introduce her to his conservative family due to her tattoos and piercings.

• Caller (51:04): “His stepmom specifically hates tattoos and piercings… he won't bring me around that side of the family.”
• Trish (52:50): “If you’re hiding you, then ew, leave him. I have enough context to like really run at home.”

The hosts discuss the dynamics of prioritizing romantic relationships over family approval and the importance of authenticity in partnerships.

9. Discussion on Music Streaming Services vs. Purchasing

Tana and Trish debate the merits of purchasing music versus using streaming services like Apple Music and Spotify, sharing their preferences and the implications for artists.

• Tana (40:34): “Do you ever try a streaming service? No, because, like, how do you find it?”
• Trish (41:05): “I would check this one out… it’s the same app.”

They explore the financial aspects, user experience, and personal connections to music consumption.

10. Personal Anecdotes: Parenting and Daily Life

The hosts share light-hearted stories about parenting, their children's behaviors, and their own daily routines, adding humor and relatability to the conversation.

• Trish (58:12): “She's not talking, baby. But just tell her how much he loves.”
• Tana (58:37): “Say, I love you, Tana.”

They discuss the joys and challenges of raising children while managing their public personas.

11. Final Thoughts and Support

In the closing segment, Tana and Trish offer words of encouragement and support to their listeners, reinforcing themes of self-worth and resilience.

• Trish (61:30): “We love you guys so much. Please do not settle for less. You're worth it.”
• Tana (61:39): “We love you. Bye.”

They conclude the episode by reiterating their commitment to their audience and expressing heartfelt appreciation.

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Notable Quotes:

• Tana (00:00): “Adults have trouble, like, upsetting their parents over, like, someone they're dating is the craziest thing.”
• Trish (24:23): “People always romanticize, like, I want to date a firefighter… but it’s like, yeah, I would lose it every day.”
• Trish (44:50): “I’d say something that's very tana moo. You are the main character…”
• Trish (61:30): “We love you guys so much. Please do not settle for less. You're worth it.”

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Conclusion

In this episode of Not Loveline, Tana Mongeau and Trish Paytas navigate a wide range of topics from relationship dynamics and family acceptance to parenting challenges and personal anecdotes. Through heartfelt advice, humorous exchanges, and candid discussions, the hosts provide a relatable and engaging listening experience for their audience.

Transcript

[A]

Adults have trouble, like, upsetting their parents over, like, someone they're dating is the craziest thing. Like, they're scared of upsetting their parents to bring home the person they love. Like, it's crazy.

[B]

Don't put this tattooed baddie through hell.

[A]

You watch Family Guy?

[B]

I love Family Guy.

[A]

Yikes. That's crazy.

[B]

Hello.

[A]

Hello. Welcome.

[B]

We switched looks. I literally took the wig off of Trisha Paytas head, which some would kill for. And I'm aware of it, to be fair.

[A]

I kind of threw it on the counter. And then you're like, oh, this wig. And I was like, yeah, wear it.

[B]

I just want to be like you. I wanted to see you look cute. I'm getting brutally harassed in my comments, so I'm trying to just try a brunette moment when I. When it comes to me.

[A]

I love this look on you. You look so good.

[B]

And it's so funny because I was like, I love this on you. You look so good. And you were like, no, I just want to be blonde. I hate how I feel right now. And I, like, even just seeing it in my peripheral is, like, triggering.

[A]

It's. You look like a completely different person. And you thought maybe you'd be giving different advice based on how you feel right now?

[B]

Well, yeah, I'm thinking that with this wig on, I do feel like I an alter ego. So I feel like I'm gonna give advice differently a little bit, because I had really long brown hair in high school, and I was insane.

[A]

So you're gonna channel High School Tana?

[B]

Yeah, I'm gonna channel Bat Tana today. All thanks to Trisha for sharing.

[A]

I love it. Well, speaking of bat, did you see Jonas Con happened?

[B]

Jonas Con?

[A]

Yeah, over the weekend. The people were comparing it to Tanacon Spill Slash I told you was on my podcast, and she was telling me about this Jonas Brothers con. Yeah. They had a Jonas con that was free in a mall in New Jersey.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And, you know, they were where in New Jersey at a mall? And it was like they had, like, three different stages. There was, like, a shrek water park that they were performing at. And people were just. Some people were complaining because they kind of. Some people got scammed. Some people had to buy the tickets for $200 to get VIP.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But they were just, like, with the regular crowd, they were just getting ga with. The GA was just free. Like, you just show up for free. And they were all like. And then some people said, like, the food wasn't good. But then some people thought it was camp. They're like, okay. It's kind of like cute because it's like the Jonas Brothers favorite food. The special guests were like, Frankie Jonas.

[B]

And like, okay, well, we know.

[A]

And then they said Camp Rock reunion, but there was no Demi Lovato. So they're like, well, okay, do they.

[B]

Just have, like, side characters from Camp Rock? That's funny. That's some. That's some Tanacon.

[A]

And they just. And they did. The Jonas Brothers were there. They did perform. So they gave that.

[B]

Theoretically, all Jonas Khan really needs is the Jonas Ominous Brothers to be there, to be not fraudulent.

[A]

Well, you were Tanacon and you were there.

[B]

I guess when you put it that way. No, you're right, because Tanacon was fraudulent and I was. I'm Tana and I was there fraudulent.

[A]

Or just not organized. Like, people were trying to get in. You just didn't have the right capacity. You didn't expect the capacity.

[B]

Yeah. Fraudulent, I guess would imply that, like, I knew it was going to go poorly and, like, knew it was going. Yeah. And that's not the case. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Whoa.

[B]

That's. No. Can you look up where. What mall Jonas Khan was at? Because. Okay, so I've been to this mall a lot because I know the owner of it, Shout Out Yona. And like, we would get really hammered in New York City and then drive there at night and I'd be like, up. Okay. And running through this mall and it'd be like, closed. And we go to the water park at night, like three in the morning. So it's a huge mall.

[A]

At three in the morning, you're going to like the Shrek water park.

[B]

Yes. Like, not even kidding. Multiple times in my life have I been to the small at like 3 in the morning. Stop. And yeah, the guy, I wanted to date him. I was like, oh, he's gonna be my husband. Because he's. He's cute and he. He's got it like that, you know, that's his mall, you know, and it's kind of wild.

[A]

That's actually. They should have Tanacontu there.

[B]

Yeah, I could. I. Wow. I never thought of that at the time. I could have been like, hey, let's have a convention here.

[A]

I can't believe you didn't see Jonas Con on Tick Tock. That's crazy.

[B]

No, I'm on like, really weird sides of Tick Tock. I'm really on Haley. Tick Tock. I' on. What else? Always some fraudulent. Now I'm just saying fraudulent. I think it's the hair that's my word of the day. Like, bad parent. Tick tock. Oh, have you been seeing that trend right now where this isn't bad parents, it's just cute. But where the. So like, you, Moses and Malibu would sit down, right? And you guys would all have a plate and then another plates covering the plate. Okay. And then you would take the, the first lid off of the plate, right? And you would have two cookies. And Malibu, or no ma. Hello, Malibu would have two cookies. You would have one cookie. And then Moses would have no cookies. And then you would see if Malibu would share. You see, like, and it's people seeing if their kids would give. And some kids are like, oh, dad, you don't have a cookie. Or you go. And other kids are like, sorry. And it's like, funny to see.

[A]

That's like, so mean to do to your kids though, because it's like they're still learning about sharing. Like, that's so mean to be like, wow, you're a bad kid. You didn't share.

[B]

They don't shame them. It's more like the parents kind of being like, we're bad parents. Because they didn't innately.

[A]

But that's like embarrassing onto itself. It's all like, also, like, why. This kid is probably like, I'm three. Why would I share? Yeah, I would be. I. I kind of hate that kind of stuff. Mel would share. She loves to share everything. Like, she will. Like, she just wants you to eat her food. She's like, you eat this food. She like, loves sharing, but it's like, it is one of those things where it's like you kind of don't. Maybe, maybe, I don't know. Maybe we just have really good kids so we don't have to teach them. But like, they kind of just know. Like, they kind of just do it.

[B]

You. But yeah, you might just have like, really? Your kids are perfect. They're just born perfect, I think.

[A]

But I. No, but then she watches some, like, bad kids on iPads. Like, we had to switch to YouTube Kids because, like, she was watching these kids and they would like, push each other. So she was like getting some. Like, she would do this a lot. Like, like she would do. And I was like, where is she getting this? So, like, you do see it. But she watches Cocomelon and Cocomelon loves to share. It's like, you know, they have sharing songs and stuff. So I guess you just, you know, sharing is caring.

[B]

She is like, just such a sweetie too.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I feel like I'm going to have Maybe bad kids.

[A]

Why would you say that? That's so not true.

[B]

You know, like, oh, oh.

[A]

There is like, a different. I don't know about that, but yeah, like, right. Like, growing up really rich and I really don't know. Nature versus nurture. Our kids just born good or as wicked thrust upon them. I'm not sure, but wow, that was.

[B]

I loved his wicked thrust upon them.

[A]

That's from the movie, but it was so.

[B]

You used it so poetically.

[A]

I love that you haven't seen it too. So you're like, wow, that was so good. I was like, thanks.

[B]

Yeah, like, to me, that just came from you. Nature versus nurture is, like a crazy concept. I don't know what I'll ever. I think a lot of it. I don't know.

[A]

I don't know either because, like, would people, like, assume you'd be, like, a bad kid because, like, your parents were there, but you turned out really good?

[B]

So it's like, I was a bad kid, though. Like, I was a really bad kid.

[A]

Do you think it's because of your parents? You think you're, like, born that way?

[B]

Yeah, Well, I think it's because I think I was seeking attention that I wasn't getting. And I think that, I mean, rules, authority, morals, all of those things were not instilled into me. I learned a lot of those things. Things. Even just way later in life at like, 18 and 19, I was still kind of learning things that I think people were learning much younger.

[A]

Yeah. So it's just like your upbringing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's so interesting.

[B]

So.

[A]

Yeah, I think so.

[B]

More so nurture, I guess.

[A]

I think so too. But, like, sharing is an interesting one. Like, how do you teach someone to share?

[B]

And there is a lot of. If the kids are on the right side of the, you know, Internet, I presume that they are learning a lot as well. If, like, the iPad kids are learning a lot. It's so funny. Makoa is so anti iPad child. So I'm talking so ant. I like electronics and I'm like, babe, if that kid's crying for the iPad, honey, you're gonna have to fight me.

[A]

Yeah, that's. No, absolutely not. I know. I don't care if you don't give your kids screen time, but it's crazy when people care so much. If you do give your kids screen time, I'll see a mom on TikTok. Be like, my three kids, they know how to eat at a restaurant. They're like 10 and 12. Of course they do. But, like, my little like 10 month old. If she's teething, she wants to watch some dancing fruit bop around. I'm gonna let her do it because she wants to calm herself, you know? Like that is like a crazy. Yeah, it's.

[B]

I think it's because he just, just in the day, like if we have like a Sunday off, Mako is like, do you want to go out in the yard and like play this, this and this? And I'm like, no. Like, yeah, like I want to rot on the couch and watch something and then I'll have to like get myself out there and I'm still like forcing myself to do it, you know? And like I see why it's better. Like it's. You know what I mean? It's. I appreciate his outlook, but I have.

[A]

The strong argument against it where I think like screen, like Malibu's still very creative. In fact, she sees more because we talked about this yesterday on hot topics. Like Mr. Kate. Do you know her? She's like all the YouTubers like makeover room.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I guess she said like zero screen time. Her son's like four and they never saw an iPad or TV in his life. And her argument was like, you know, he's more creative because he has his own thoughts. But then I was like, well, where do those thoughts come from? Like when I grew up watching tv, I was getting all my thoughts from TV and then it was like spawning all these other imagination things. So again, I don't give a. If like your kid. You don't want to give your kids. Fine, good. I love that for you. But also, it's like, I think they're.

[B]

Like also like cultural divide. Like if you don't show your kids any electronic anything and then thrust them into this electronic driven world, I can't imagine what school is going to be like. By the time I have kids that are in school, I assume everything is going to be electro. Like, and even just for their jobs and growing up, they're gonna have to know how to use AI and all these things because it's. That's what the world runs off of.

[A]

McDonald's now you like place your own order on the screen. They're gonna be like, what's this? I hate that. I know it is annoying, but I know you know, but everything is electronic now. And yeah, I don't know people who are like so against it also.

[B]

I'm just like, okay, like I know they know McCo. And I couldn't see more not eye to eye on that. But he also has. He has way younger siblings that are like, like 12 and like probably like 8. And I notice even when he's like watching them and stuff, like, they'll want to go on their screens for 24 hours. And so I think it's just like he gets a little. He's like, no, you need to see the outside world.

[A]

And I guess, like on it all the time. Yeah, that's like, okay, get out.

[B]

Yeah, for sure.

[A]

But it was a. Yeah. I don't know. With parenting, I was like, just, I don't know. Do what you want as long as you keep them healthy.

[B]

Yeah. I feel like our kids will have a good balance too, because I'll be like, hey, let's watch this on the iPad. And then Mokoa will go throw a ball or whatever.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is a good balance. Yeah. Moses loves doing stuff with them, but he's also like, at night they want an iPad, watch an iPad, you know?

[B]

Yeah, I agree. I feel like you put it so well. Like, if they're at the restaurant and need something to calm down and focus on, like, it can be like a useful as well.

[A]

Also in like two or three. I mean, we've been taking Malbout since she was like, literally one week old to restaurants and like, sometimes she's fine, sometimes she's not. You don't know. Sometimes you're bored and you're like, okay, I don't want to, like, they don't talk and have a conversation with you. Robert watches Miss Rachel, so if he's doing that with his little kid, we all can do it, right?

[B]

I still can't believe that. That he's just like 80, 80 with.

[A]

His one year old.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I should be friends with him. Maybe they want to come to Elvis's birthday. She's turning.

[B]

That would be. And why. Why is Robert De Niro kind of a name? If you have a boy like Robert De Niro paid his hackman. What if you just named your kid like somebody else?

[A]

Now you're giving me Jeff vibes. Like the whole podcast. His and mine was just all about Robert De Niro. What's your favorite Niro movie? I'm like, I don't know.

[B]

Wait, really?

[A]

He was like obsessed with Robert De Niro.

[B]

I never let. Honestly, poor Jeff. Our friendship's so one sided. I never let him talk to me about his interest. He'll be like, Scarface this, Scarface that, joker this. I'm like, oh, interesting.

[A]

Yeah. He wanted to talk about, like gangster films. I honestly had never seen any of these I don't know with you.

[B]

That's what he wanted.

[A]

We're talking about Taxi Driver and Kate Fear and I'm just like, oh, okay. Raging Bull.

[B]

No way.

[A]

I've seen album because I was a pick me at a teacher that I was like in love with that like loved Robert De Niro. So he would like give me all these Robert De Niro movies. So I had like against my will know this stuff. But I also don't want to talk about it now while I'm like have free will at 35 or 36, how old I am on a podcast. I was like, that's crazy.

[B]

I have just not. I've like, I really have not seen any classic movies. I've seen some, but like I just never grew up watching them. So now it's like I have to play this constant game of catch up. I've never seen Titanic. I've never seen.

[A]

That's crazy. I don't even love Titanic, but I feel like you see it.

[B]

Romeo and Juliet. I've never seen.

[A]

Oh, the Lander Caprio one's good. Watch that one.

[B]

Yeah, I've never seen all of those movies. I need to like do that. And then it's like the things that I do watch are just, you know, like how many episodes of Family Guy can I intake? It's like, watch a movie guy. I love Family Guy.

[A]

Yikes. That's crazy. That's. I would say red flag.

[B]

It's I. And you know, it's funny cuz with a guy, usually the guys who love Family Guy are so red flag. But then here I am thinking like, I'm a girl. It's so cool.

[A]

Yeah, that's like a cuter. But oh my God. Someone was like, let's watch Family Guy. I'm like, get out.

[B]

And I love it. I love Seth McFarlane. I like, I'm obsessed. It's so bad. Did he do Family Guy and he voices all the characters? Not all of them, but like three of them. Seth Green does Chris, right? Yeah. But Seth McFarland does Brian, Peter and maybe Stewie.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

I don't know if you guys do.

[A]

He's like weirdly into like Broadway and like musical theater. He sings like, like he has like a weird crooner voice in like real life.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

He's always Liz Gillies.

[B]

Yeah. And they like perform and like it's so wild. One of the reason I like go to his things or whatever is cuz one of my best friends is really good friends with him. So like there's so much, like, lore there. Like, like, she'll like, be like, we did this and this and this, and just tell me stories. And it's so weird because he's, like, not a real person to me. I've been such a fan of Musk.

[A]

To me, I'm like, well, who is this person?

[B]

He is so Elon Musk coded. In reality, he's, like, polar opposite with his, like, views and stuff.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah, he's. He's, like, very much very liberal and very.

[A]

He always gave me, like, like, straight guy player energy.

[B]

I'm sure I, I, I could see that.

[A]

He's, like, not married, no kids, not to judge, but, like, he's.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And he's, like, older, right? Like, yeah.

[B]

And he's like. And girls want him, you know, so.

[A]

It'S like, yeah, he always gave me a weird vibe. I don't know him. But also, family guy's a red flag, as I immediately know. Especially if you're voicing all the characters. Could you imagine him doing that, like, in the bedroom? Just. I don't know what.

[B]

Eat it up. I'm too far gone, unfortunately.

[A]

I don't know any voices, but do, like, a voice like, he's like, Lewis.

[B]

Is like Peter, you know.

[A]

Oh, does he do that?

[B]

That's. Lewis is the wife. I don't. I would tell you, like, that you'd like it, but I lying. I don't think you would like it.

[A]

I hate cartoons, and I hate adult cartoons. Like south park and any clip, I'm like, I hate it.

[B]

I don't watch it. I've never seen American Dad.

[A]

Really?

[B]

I've watched a little bit of South Park. I could never. I'm not like a South Park Die Hard, but I love.

[A]

Oh, my God. It's crazy. Just weird to me. Like, if they're not Disney Princess, I don't want to watch it.

[B]

And that makes perfect sense. And see, that's the thing. I've never seen, like, Cinderella. It's like, put the family guy down. Like, go watch Cinderella.

[A]

Cinderella's a watch for sure. Yeah.

[B]

And I've never seen any of the. I think I watched Ariel as a kid. That's right.

[A]

We did talk about this with Holly. Like, you've never seen, like, a Disney.

[B]

Princess movie as, like, a grown adult? I know the lore, but growing up, I just. And the thing is, too, is with my childhood, I don't really know. Like, I, Like, I could have watched them all, and I don't remember a lot of my childhood, you know, so.

[A]

That'S Probably a good thing, I guess, if you're, like, associated. I don't know. Like, it's good. Maybe.

[B]

Yeah. It's like. I don't. I don't know. There's probably, like, good things, though. Like, maybe I watched, like, Snow White and just don't remember it. I can always re. Watch it, though. Isn't there a new Snow White?

[A]

New Rachel Zachary's movie just came out. Yeah, I haven't seen. I need to see it. I can't wait. She does no wrong in my eyes. I love her. She's like a queen.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Actually so.

[B]

And she probably slayed that down.

[A]

Oh, my God. She's playing, like, Snow White. She was in Hunger Games, west side Story.

[B]

Holy.

[A]

Yeah, she's, like, playing. She can be a fan that, bro. She gets all these roles and she's amazing.

[B]

The Hunger Games was so good.

[A]

Do you watch one with her in it?

[B]

Yeah, the new one.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, it was. So did you read the new book?

[A]

It just came out.

[B]

No, but I saw James Charles, like, hunting for it, like, fighting people on his Instagram story for it. And I was just laughing. I was like, what? He was like. He was, like, posting. He posted on his story that he was leaving on a flight in like, five days. Right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And that he really wants this book, but he can't find it anywhere. Okay. And then he comes back the next day and he's like, I am blocking people who are pretending to find me the book in my. In my dms.

[A]

Oh, my God. They're, like, trolling him. I'm like, a thousand percent sure it's just on Amazon. Like, it's not sold out on Amazon. Like, there's like 5 million copies.

[B]

I don't know. I remember in. When I was in middle school, it was like a pick me thing to like. Like, I carry the big Hunger Games or the big Twilight books around. Yeah. And I would, like, read them. But, like, it was very picky.

[A]

Oh, you did. You were carrying them around.

[B]

Yeah. Like, to, like, all the girls would, like, carry around their big. And mind you, the Twilight book is, like, huge. Bigger than the Bible. Yeah. You know, it's big as we.

[A]

Ours was Goblet of Fire. When that came out, that was like the big Harry Potter one. I would carry around green. And I thought I was like, so.

[B]

Yeah. And you just like. I remember when you could, like, as a girl, you discovered that, like, reading was like, ooh, mysterious and like, pick me and you like that. And no boy cares like you. You were doing it to Be like, look at me. I read so cute. And then like, no boy gave up. You're reading Twilight like, hello. Is that a universal experience or is it just.

[A]

I think maybe. Yeah, I think like, reading, like, is definitely like, yeah, everyone's doing it to look. Look cool.

[B]

And like, having a diary too. Like, when that was like, oh, I.

[A]

Used to carry diary. I do love a diary. Now it's actually, like, more work. I have to, like, remember to diary. It's like, I want to journal. I want to do this. But back in the day, like, carrying a journal was so cute.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It was like giving Harriet the Spy Elle woods. Like, they all had, like, little journals.

[B]

Yes, exactly.

[A]

Fuzzy pen.

[B]

What else was there that I'm trying to think.

[A]

Like, the trends.

[B]

Yeah. Like, things you'd bring to school to, like, feel cool.

[A]

Pencil. We had, like, pencil boxes with, like, pens. I'd put like a thousand pens and pencils. And it was like those big, like, cases. I'm like, older than you, but, like, that was like the thing. And like inside of the pencil boxes, you could put like a pictures in there. And then you like, open it up and it was like, cute. Or binders. Did you guys have the Trapper Keepers?

[B]

My binder had Lil Wayne in it for all of my years.

[A]

Very different binders. My mind's like Lisa Frank dolphins.

[B]

I had this hair and Lil Wayne as the. As my binder and all of my schooling.

[A]

Wow. Little Wayne and Twilight and you're just like walking down the hall with your brunette hair.

[B]

Says everything you need to know.

[A]

That's cute.

[B]

Did you have the book fairs?

[A]

Yeah. What were those? Like, scholastic?

[B]

I would always steal from the book fair. I remember. That's a bad kid. No, like, erasers and like, I wasn't stealing books. I was doing the fun things.

[A]

Stuff. Okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't mind that. I don't know. You're a kid and you, you know.

[B]

Right. But even. Yeah. Once again, it's like no one was like, hey, stealing is bad.

[A]

You never got caught. No one ever told you.

[B]

I got caught stealing? Actually a few times as I got older in high school. Like, just all my friends, we'd all go to the mall and we would steal earrings and see all the things and they'd chase you out. I was banned from the mall for like a year. I got hired at one of the PacSun that I got caught stealing at by the same person.

[A]

Oh, really?

[B]

Months later, I was like, are you sure?

[A]

What?

[B]

I will never know. I'll never know if they knew or not because I wasn't gonna bring it up like, hey, I stole like are you sure you want to hire me?

[A]

But that was a bad manager then to like not recognize it, I guess. Ye, yeah, I remember they didn't care.

[B]

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I feel like it's hard in retail cuz it's like we were talking about this recently. I don't know. Jimmy probably cut it when we were talking about stealing cuz we were on a whole tangent.

[A]

I don't know yet. Yeah, I don't think it's out yet.

[B]

At least when I worked retail it was like I don't get paid enough to chase these people. Of course.

[A]

No, like retail people should not have to do that. They should hire like security or something to do that. Cuz that's crazy. Like you just like checking the bag.

[B]

But also like you don't know people's intentions. Like. Yeah, I know when I was stealing I wasn't trying to hurt anyone. But you know.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, but.

[B]

But I just wanted a cute crop top that I couldn't afford, you know. Did you ever steal and the security tag would still be on it? Ooh, no. I would always. I would rip holes. That's how you knew is like every day I'd be wearing like a new crop top that had a hole in the side, you know, Ripped it out. Is that. Yes. Or like cut it out. I bring little scissors.

[A]

Oh yeah. I. I buy it and I have that tag on it. So I always have to go back through Target and be like, ah, the tag is the worst.

[B]

That is actually whenever I get home from Target nowadays and if something a security sen are still on my. I'm like, I should. I could have just stole this. Like it brings out, it brings out the me with this hair.

[A]

Well, that's the security. Lack of security on their systems because usually it beeps. So you go back like, okay, there has to be a tag on there. Cuz I buy so many clothes from Target and so when it doesn't beep, I'm like, what the hell?

[B]

Like it's always a pajama set.

[A]

Yeah, that's so true actually. Like yeah, something that you just want to wear right away.

[B]

Yes. It's always the thing you want to put on right when you get home. But whatever. Wow. I want to go to Target.

[A]

I want. I haven't want to go to Target. I haven't gone in months and I'm like, I need to go Target.

[B]

I know. And I like I have to refrain from going as often as I would like because I just like feel day in there. Like, I. Target is so dopamine. Just walking through like all of it.

[A]

It's like I used to do it like twice a week. I used to like, love going through Target and I haven't. But it's like if I don't go right when they open at 8am like we live by a school. So if I went now, it's just like high school kids just in there. Just. And it's like, usually they're the annoying boys. I always say, like, girls, whatever.

[B]

But the boys walking past a group of high school or teenage boys is equivalent to like years of trauma.

[A]

Yeah. Like, literally take me out. Like, they. They're so annoying. And they're always like laughing, taking pictures. Like always following you around but not saying anything worse.

[B]

I couldn't agree more.

[A]

They're little punks too. And I just want to go, like.

[B]

Literally yell at them like Karen cussed them out. I couldn't agree more. It is the. That's why I love being with Mokoa because it's like, I'll just like, he'll beat the out of you. You know what I mean?

[A]

Like, that's.

[B]

That's. But when you're alone and you see that group of high school boys and they recognize you, it is like traumatizing.

[A]

And then they just like laugh and whatever. And they see Jack stupid. There was one person I had a chick fil a drive through that worked there. And he's just like, david Dober rules. And I'm like, okay, give me my card back. Like, I don't know why. Why are you saying this to me in a chick fil A?

[B]

Like, that always happens to me. It's always like the parlors or the whatever. Like it's. Or like the.

[A]

Of.

[B]

Like, I was in San Diego eating at this nice restaurant, and there was this group of guys and they were like, I love your oh. And they were like barking and begging for selfies and like shaking and. But like, you're also barking. Like, why are you barking?

[A]

That's ever happened. I met one person watch of. He was like, actually a young guy at like a gas station. He kind of was like. Like, he's like, yeah, I recognize you. And I was like, okay, from what? And he's like, I can't stand. He's like being weird and creepy. No one's ever like, come on. Be like, I love your off. That's crazy. I have that, like, barbaric.

[B]

It's wild. Or the like try to high five Moa. And. And it's like, oh my God. Like did you use that hand to win? Like thanks. Like I'm. I'm. You know, I'm going to renovate my closet. Like, thank you. You're quite literally paid for the LED lights coming out of the shoe compartment.

[A]

But like are you doing that?

[B]

I want that.

[A]

Go. Cute. Oh my God.

[B]

And thank you to that straight man.

[A]

I guess. Yeah, you should than. I guess.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's weird in public. All right.

[B]

It is. It's like I was talking with that Camilla, the girl in the Bob house. Just like normalized. Speaking about the downsides of. Of. And one of them is men coming up to you.

[A]

Is that what she said too?

[B]

Yeah, she was just. We were just talking about that and like a bunch of stalkers. All the things, you know, like a lot of negative can come from that.

[A]

Yeah. You get a lot of money, but.

[B]

It does at a cost, you know, and it. People need to just really.

[A]

I think if you're not making over a million, I don't know if it's worth it, to be honest. That's why I closed mine because I was like. I was making so much. I'm like, okay, the money and it's like good. But. But even now I kind of almost. I wouldn't say I want to give back all the money, but I maybe because it's like, oh, and it's still there forever and it just like haunts you and it like blocks you from things. But again, not the worst. I got a house out of it, so I don't know.

[B]

I mean, it's a great house.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Listen, when you pull up here, you. You see this how money looks? Okay. But yeah, no, I mean my worst stalker. My like the. My main. My main stalker. They say it like I have like a side piece and a main. But like I do. I have a side piece stalker and a main stalker. He came from a.

[A]

So it is scary. Are you okay now? What's happening?

[B]

Yeah, I've accepted it like, you know, it just. It is what it is. He's. He always. He always shows back up, you know, and I hope he doesn't like, knock on wood.

[A]

But we have a security guard and stuff now.

[B]

Yeah, it's fine. Yeah, my security is outside guns a blazing. Should we take a call?

[A]

Love that. As they should be.

[B]

I love your pegging shirt, Devin.

[A]

I know. It's kind of everything.

[B]

It's the best show lover collect. Pez.

[A]

That's crazy. Our door dash is on the way.

[B]

I like that you prioritize hot food. Like, I always wait till something gets cold and finish what I'm doing. And Trisha is dropping everything to eat the food while it's hot. I like. I respect that. You've made me, like, prioritize that more. It's like, love your body.

[A]

No, we did that once for Patreon. It was, like, Chinese food. We ordered and, like, Panda Express and Oscar's like, we'll just, like, finish this. It was like, another hour of the videos killing me. By the time I ate the food and was cold, it was so disgusting. I was like, why am I eating this? I'm like, I need a hot. So I always do, like, super.

[B]

Just stop. It's a form of self love. Like, I. I love it.

[A]

Eat the hot food. Everything else can wait.

[B]

Okay, who's. Who needs what? We're here.

[A]

Question one.

[C]

Hey, not loveline. I need your help. After years of, you know, toxic relationships, I finally found a good man who loves me and has good morals and is just a good man. The only catch is he's a firefighter. And I have abandonment issues. So obviously for his job, he's gone all the time. And I'm just. I don't know. I need your advice. I need your support. Okay. I love you guys.

[B]

Not all heroes wear capes, okay? And I'm not even saying this about him fighting the fires. I'm saying this about you dating him.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. Like, it is. People always romanticize, like, I want to date a firefighter. And the more I use my critical thinking towards that, the more I'm like, no, the. You don't. It's hot. Literally, also. But it's like, yeah, I would lose it every day.

[A]

Oh, I can. Yeah. Military firefighting.

[B]

And it's, like, so noble and incredible that they're doing it. But dating, it has got to be.

[A]

So I couldn't do it.

[B]

Diabolical.

[A]

I couldn't do it. I could not do it. So, like, kudos to you. It's like. And then, yeah, it's love your life. What are you supposed to do? You're like, this is my soulmate, and he has this job that he's risking his life every day. That's.

[B]

So I would just be praying, praying, praying, waiting.

[A]

Religious. Born again. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. And just waiting for the day he wants to retire. Like, the earliest retirement possible. My, like, best friend's mom remarried to a cop, and he had to get. He has to get all this therapy and, like, it's scary. Like, just, you know, he goes out and does all the crazy and then comes home and you just, you know, it's. It's. Even with Moa being, like, adventurous. I always talk about this with the adventurous girlies. It's like, like, no, what do you mean? You want to jump off this high cliff into the water? What do you mean?

[A]

We don't even do roller coasters. We're like, we're staying safe. I don't even like to get in the car. Sometimes at night when it's raining, I'm like, oh, my God, we have kids. Like, let's stay home.

[B]

Like, yes.

[A]

It's so that I. I really don't have advice because I'm just like, how. But like you said, I guess praying, maybe not thinking about. I don't know. I mean, I guess we have kids. You worry all the time, too, and you can't just worry all the time.

[B]

But I think it's one of those things where truly is out of your control, and you have to remember that. And that's even a scary thought if you start to unpack that. Right. But it is what it is, and so many people do it so safely. And that's all you hope and you pray for and g. That. That. That's it.

[A]

That.

[B]

That it is what it is. You know, if it's the love of.

[A]

Your life and like you said, I mean, if he loves it, if that's like his calling and that's your love, I mean, you can't just leave the love of your life because it's dangerous. Yeah. Driving a car is dangerous too.

[B]

You know, lots of things are dangerous.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I think I have anxious attachment. Really bad. Right.

[A]

So that part.

[B]

I have really bad anxious attachment. So I feel for anybody else who has it, and at least with mine, I feel like a lot of times I just have to tell myself that, hey, Tana, you're making up scenarios right now, and those scenarios haven't happened yet. And you. That's the best thing with anxious attachment to tell yourself, I think, is just until something happens or if. If heavy on. If, if, if. Yeah, something happens, then you will address it and go through it when it does. If it does. But if it's not, just remember that you're probably telling yourself a lot of fake scenarios and he's coming home safe every day, you know?

[A]

Yeah. She looks up to six. Because, I mean, maybe. I don't know, but I can't wait to look up.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

In my head, I would think majority of firefighters, however long Firefighting started in the 1800s. Whatever. Centuries.

[B]

They fight them, they fight them.

[A]

They survive, they thrive. They look hot. They're amazing muscular. They're not afraid of anything. They're saving lives, which gives you good karma in life, good karma in heaven. So I feel like the majority are good. Like, if you were in an occupation where the majority of people are just, like, not making it, then it's, like, a little scary. But I think the majority are good.

[B]

Yeah. And I think there's so many pluses. Right. He's noble. He's a hero. He's sexy. He can. He does things with his hands. He's a man who touches grass. Right. Like, he's a man. He's not scrolling. And, you know, he's. He's a man, which is sexy. And I'm gonna go really morbid right now. This is, like, kind of up. Okay. I watched this movie, I told you about it, with Aubrey Plaza, where her. She went to find her younger self and the guy and ended up dying. She was trying to save him from the guy, but the takeaway ended up kind of being that even if the love of your life was in your life for only a period of time, you still wouldn't change it. Right.

[A]

That's true.

[B]

So if. If he really is your man. I'm not. I'm taught. See, I'm going really morbid, as if something's going to happen, and it's.

[A]

I have, you know, my head, too. I always, like, sometimes think I'm like. But at least you get. I'd rather have, like, six months with, like, the love of my life and, like, never knowing that love.

[B]

Yeah. And like, would you rather date a baker that you know is going to be safe but he's not the love of your life? No. You'd rather date the firefighter. Right.

[A]

Who's dating a baker? I want to know that in the comments. Let me.

[B]

Sounds awesome.

[A]

No, I know. That's what I'm saying. I actually genuinely want to know. It's not like, oh, my God, who's dating a baker? But it's like, who's dating. On the.

[B]

Dating a baker.

[A]

Like, what do they do? They get up early to make the bread? Like, yeah, they make bread at home.

[B]

For you, and then they probably bring you home, like, really good muffins. Oh, my God. Wait. Oh, my God.

[A]

That's the muffins I think are the muffin man, not the baker.

[B]

Yeah, I just want a muffin. I think blueberry muffins. I'm so good right now. I love a muffin with a crystallized sugar on top.

[A]

Oh, those are the best blueberry muffins like that. They're so hard to find because like Starbucks muffins aren't that great.

[B]

Not at all. Starbucks muffins are 3D printed.

[A]

Yeah. And Ralph's has like a four pack of blueberry muffins that are pretty good.

[B]

But those are good.

[A]

Moses buying us that for every morning and we're just having muffins for like a year straight. I'm like, we're getting so much weight just eating a muffin every day.

[B]

But oh my God, I want a muffin so bad right now. I need another color, I need another caller. Cuz otherwise all I'm going to do is keep talking about the muffins are coming when we get hungry too. It's so bad.

[A]

I think that's my thing right now. If I'm being anything, it's cuz I'm hungry. Like late. Not late, but like, I don't know, we're going too fast. And I was like, okay, yeah, normally.

[B]

We eat before this. We eat before our third tea.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

But we're just so hardworking we forgot.

[A]

To eat even though we had In n out salad, chicken sandwich.

[B]

Oh yeah, I forgot I had healthy food. I didn't even touch it.

[A]

But I love that you like thought about it.

[B]

I tried.

[A]

You got it.

[B]

I ordered a salad. I'm just looking at it. Okay, who's in need? I feel like the firefighter. I'm here to save you.

[C]

Hey girls. So I was just listening to your podcast and there was somebody asking how you guys felt about girl best friends. And I was a girl best friend at one point for three years. The lines were never crossed. He was my best friend. We did everything together. And then about last year during Christmas, I get a call from his girlfriend saying that she had found my nudes in his phone from my only that I had. And I was just so shocked at that that. So it's been about a year since that passed and honestly, even knowing that he had those and me being in a very healthy relationship, I miss my best friend. And I think to myself, did that actually happen or was she just lying? What should I do? Should I reach out to him or should I just let it be holy?

[B]

I have never like. What a crazy question. Like I've never been like speed. I've never Speechless. Yeah, I've never shut the up ever. Once actually.

[A]

Oh no.

[B]

But wow. I thought that was a ghost, but it wasn't. And thank God it wasn't, because I would have lost it. Oh, I'm like, truly. I'm never speechless. I'm like, truly speechless. And maybe.

[A]

Oh, are you inclined to believe that the girl's lying? Or you can kind of believe that he had those. The nudes on his phone.

[B]

I have, like, been in so many situations that are. I don't know, not this situation, not the only ends of it all in the nudes of it all, but just. I've been the girl best friend. I've been the girl who hates a girl best friend. I've been at all. I'm inclined to believe that she was telling the truth. But then I've also had my guy best friend dating a crazy girl who hated me for no reason. Like, I've had. Where like, that girl definitely would have made up a lie like that, you know, so it's like, yeah, like, I'm speechless. I don't know what to say because it could be so many things and then you're in a healthy relationship, so it's like, do you even want to open up the can of worms if he did do that? And then it's also kind of crazy, like, if I found my. Oh, my. I don't even. I can't even think about if I found my nudes in.

[A]

Like, Jeff's phone. Was saving your only nudes or something.

[B]

Oh, my God. I would, like, die, I guess.

[A]

Ask him, I guess, if you're close friends.

[B]

Well, he told me. Actually, he bought my own only once. So, I mean, Yeah, I think it.

[A]

Might be here in the driveway. Maybe. Let me just say sorry. I don't want to miss it because they'd be leaving the food or taking.

[B]

It with them while Devin checks. Should we wrap up? Because I'll lose this train of thought.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, no, no, keep going. For sure.

[B]

Well, like, what? Like, maybe call him and just ask was it the truth and see if he's truthful or not.

[A]

Yeah, see if he's truthful and maybe just ask her for proof. Like, you know what? When people would tell me they were like, dming, like, a guy was dating or whatever, I'm like, can I see? And then. And a lot of times, you know what I'm talking about. Like, years ago, like, 15 years ago ago, like, there was, like, someone who'd be like, yeah, I met him off Craigslist. That sounds crazy. But then they would share the screenshots and yes, it would be his face or his picture or his verbiage or his like. And Then you're like, oh yeah, this. And the way he's talking, I'm like, yeah, that's definitely him. So yeah.

[B]

Cuz we're always calling men crazy over here. But I will say women are also crazy. Like, you know, people are. People are just crazy. So it's like if you really miss your best friend and you. It would give you some peace of mind to know if it was the truth or not. Maybe ask the girl for proof. Ask the guy to tell you for.

[A]

Sure if you think it's gonna be over anyways. Because I sounds like if that's true, like it needs to be done. Especially if you're in a happy relationship and stuff. It's like, what the hell is he doing?

[B]

I'd be sad though. I'd be really sad to lose my friend and like, oh my God. There's a part of me in different areas of my life where I maybe would have like forgiven that. Wow, that's just a hard situation all around.

[A]

I think you kind of have to. I mean, can you stay friends with someone that was like hiding your nudes and you're not as platonic? It's like not platonic at that point.

[B]

You know, because it's like you want to.

[A]

Me. Yeah. Like I don't have any nudes of like I have like one platonic friend. I'm like never like looking for the nudes or.

[B]

Yeah. Like that's so like imagining doing that to like one of my straight friends and it's like so weird. Like, look, this one. This has me speechless. Girl, I think you do what your heart wants to do and truly you get the award. This is the first call on not Loveline that is I've ever been like, what the do you do?

[A]

This is the first. Even that for the horse one.

[B]

But even that one, I was like, you know it. Yeah. You know what to do. Like, this is why I have. We need Dr. Drew for this one. Like, what do you do? I think you try to get to the bottom of the truth. Maybe for some closure and peace there.

[A]

Either way, way, ask him if he's truthful. If you still like, don't believe him. Either you believe him or you don't. Or then ask the girl. Be like, can I see proof?

[B]

Yeah. And just kind of make sure your partner is. But like, you know, respects it. But also it's hard because that was your best friend. That's sad. That's a sad situation.

[A]

Sometimes you just gotta mourn that best friend.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Jesus, I'm so sorry that's so awful to, like, find out you have, like, giving Colleen flashbacks of just, like, knowing someone. You're like, nudes and, like, sending to people. You're like. Like, you're weird.

[B]

Her healthy relationship. Yeah. That's crazy that. That's so weird that she ever did that.

[A]

Like, why are you saving my nudes on your phone?

[B]

I forgot, like, whenever I think about, like, oh, I just don't. Like Colleen. I don't, like, immediately, like, I forget about that detail.

[A]

Weird PTSD from that one. That one was, like, so odd. I'm scared. Like, everyone has nudes. That's why, like, anyone. I just cut off right away. I'm just like, everyone is doing this. Like, I just.

[B]

I promise you, I've never looked over your news. I'm not saving them, and I'm not sending them to anyone, if that gives you any peace of mind.

[A]

I always wonder what people are friends with. I'm like, were you, like, sending him, too? Like, you guys all have my. You know, it gets, like, paranoia. That's why, you know, what kind of.

[B]

Oh. Do you remember in the 2000s when Nicole Richie and Paris Hilton weren't friends and Nicole Richie had a screening of Paris Hilton sex tape? This happened. So you're kind of Paris Hilton for that.

[A]

That's crazy. How are people not canceling Nicole Richie over that? That's wild.

[B]

I guess they made up. I don't. It might be a room or two. I could be making that up. Okay, guys, we are taking a Cheesecake Factory break.

[A]

The whole thing, demeanor change.

[B]

Like, I know I whooped it.

[A]

I was so hungry.

[B]

It was very much silent eating, like, scarfing. And sometimes food gives me energy, but sometimes food's like melatonin to me. Like, that, like, put me out.

[A]

It's meditation to me where I feel like, okay, I feel good and I'm ready again. But, yeah, when I eat, that's how I know I'm comfortable with you guys. Because I was just like. Like, I can eat like, how I eat usually with people. I'm very like. I don't know. I think the first time we ate together was like, Madonna and. And I was just, like, very, like, not eating. Well.

[B]

That was, like, weirdly, a formal dinner. It was like, me, Paige, but, like.

[A]

We all like, steakhouse.

[B]

Yeah. And we sat up, like, all. We all had on dresses. Yeah. It was, like, so much.

[A]

We have the dresses. You're right.

[B]

Yeah. And, like, it was just now we just, like. My favorite word is thort. Okay, this.

[A]

What does it mean.

[B]

When I Was friends with Lauren Geraldo. She coined this term, but it was like sorting. It's just like eating a meal that's like a very decent, dense. Eating a lot of a meal that's very dense. And like, I love to Thor, so I love it.

[A]

We just thwart it. I had the densest macaroni cheese balls and orange chicken.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Some buffalo chicken strips.

[B]

But we love a good Thor. We live for a good thing.

[A]

Is that like a word you invented or is a word.

[B]

It was all her. She just kind of made it up. I think it's. I think it means something to like Thor. It around is like a type of like walking or something. But she made it like we're thwarting.

[A]

Tonight, you know, and we had so much tea in between too. Oh, my God, the stuff you were saying. It's like I was actually watching like a real life story time. It looks like you're canceled to tour. Like, you're name dropping. You're giving details. You're like describing. I was like, oh, my God, it's like a real life story time. It was actually so crazy. And I was just eating, so it almost felt like disassociating a little bit. Like I'm watching YouTube live. It was crazy.

[B]

I was really giving the full story time. I just gave a mad lore drop on Trisha and Devin about a former Disney star and my experience with them.

[A]

Yeah, but you talked about, I guess before on the tour.

[B]

Yeah, I've said it. People can put it all together. I just. Honestly, it's one of those ones where I'm like, okay, I have to leave them alone now. Like, once you. I tell a story about someone live on stage especially.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Even though it's the equivalent really, of like telling a story on a podcast one time. It doesn't feel that way. Like, I told the story about this man live in all 50 states.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So it's like at the point where I'm like, I need to leave him.

[A]

No, but you can tell you did it. You delivered it. So, like, exciting. Because at the end of the day, it wasn't like, yeah, like, I get your frustration, but it wasn't like, terrible. You know what I mean? I didn't get like a bad impression of him. I was just like, okay, well, that just makes sense.

[B]

Yeah. Musician now, like, very much loves the girls. You know, he's, he's. He likes. He might be a little bit of a player, but.

[A]

Yeah, that's like.

[B]

The story's just funny. I was like tripping balls on Mushrooms.

[A]

I think that part.

[B]

Yeah, that's what makes it ridiculous.

[A]

And the build up, the lead up with Paige and like, everything. You know what I mean? It's like the buildup. Is there a.

[B]

Well, thank you for listening.

[A]

I loved it.

[B]

How did we. Oh, I can't say how we got on that. So it's whatever, let's move on.

[A]

I don't know. Yeah, I didn't know either. All right, I'm ready to answer your question. The last I was like, ah, I'm so hungry. And I'm like, I'm so.

[B]

I know. I think I was so speechless for our firefighter girl. I think because all I was thinking about was my buffalo blast that were almost here. Here.

[A]

Did a blast. Oh, we're on Patreon. I was gonna say did a blast in your.

[B]

We're so funny on the Patreon. If we're having a normal conversation that isn't sexual, we'll just start sexualizing it. And I think that's the. We always have a piece of our. Of girlies in us, you know, because.

[A]

I feel like we have to give them that over there.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, where are we at Patreon or of. No, not of. We're not on Patreon or YouTube.

[B]

Yeah, it's different. They're very different.

[A]

Does anyone listen to us on Apple Podcast podcasts?

[B]

I use Apple podcasts. That's if I'm listening to anyone. It's on. But I'm also Apple music. I listen. If Spotify wanted to work with me tomorrow, I would be bending over backwards saying how much I love them, but I would be lying if I said I use them. Their services at all. I think they're complicated. The black and the green. There's all these, like, playlists and like four use and playlists. Yes. It's just too much. Apple music's cut and dry and just like white screen. Everything makes sense.

[A]

We love it.

[B]

I love Apple Music.

[A]

Clean. Although Spotify has a bougie campus downtown.

[B]

You don't really. Didn't you say one time that if you want to listen to a song that you buy it on it?

[A]

I still do. I mean, I can show you my. What's my last song I bought on itunes? Oh, my gosh. I have all the buttons next to me.

[B]

Like, that is so funny. Like, does not use a streaming service.

[A]

Let me see the last thing I bought. Because I always buy my music if I want to listen to it, which is kind of.

[B]

That you're giving the artist your money.

[A]

Of course. Playlist and my last purchase, music right here.

[B]

And that means you really like a song if you're going to purchase it.

[A]

Oh my God. No, I have my last is me Purchase me. Literally. But before that was Scream from the cast of High School Musical 3. It's a Zach Efron. Then before that was a bunch of weekend can't feel my face. I feel it coming. Oh, could it be by Christy Carlson Romano?

[B]

I bought that is so funny.

[A]

The entire tick, tick boom. Oh, I have encantos. I buy a lot of like albums. Like, I buy the whole thing.

[B]

But that's like 19.99. No, 17.99. $4.99. Like albums are expensive, right?

[A]

$9.99.

[B]

That's.

[A]

So I think you had a deal. But it is like A$99 for like songs now.

[B]

Yeah, that's. And you. Would you ever try a streaming service?

[A]

No, because, like, how do you find it? Like, how do you find the song you want to play?

[B]

You just search it and then you don't even have to go through the hassle of commercials. No, not if. No, I don't listen to commercials ever. Like, I pay for that. Yeah.

[A]

And can you just shuffle the music you like? Like, I can shuffle everything I bought.

[B]

Yes, yes. Just. Just the same.

[A]

But you have to make a playlist then.

[B]

No, you can have all your songs.

[A]

So how do you put your songs so they know what to shuffle?

[B]

You just press add to library instead of purchase. It's the same. I swear. I promise I would check this one out. Like you're really. Look, look. Library.

[A]

What do you have? Okay, got it.

[B]

And then I have the same as you. Like songs. And then like that's all my songs.

[A]

Oh, it looks the same.

[B]

Yeah. And I'm saving bread.

[A]

That. That's crazy. Yeah, it's on the same app.

[B]

You might want to check it out.

[A]

That's wild. Cuz mine's under purchased music, so I don't know.

[B]

Yeah, and then like I have that tab too, but like mine has like maybe one song.

[A]

Wait, really? So where's the other tab I go to?

[B]

I don't know, but I'll show you.

[A]

I have like my.

[B]

I love Current Obsession. She like makes. Wow.

[A]

You make Current Obsessions, My little emo heart.

[B]

It'd be the same thing you'd like. It's the same thing, but you just. Just.

[A]

So why do. Why are they charging? They're like scamming the kind of lowkey.

[B]

Purchase music in 2025.

[A]

It's the same app. It's like, you can have this for free or you can buy it for this.

[B]

Yes, it would look the same. You might want to look into it.

[A]

Look into it. There has to be difference. Let us know if there's, like, a difference. I feel like there has to be a difference.

[B]

And I feel like no one's ever really sat you down and been like, wait, you should check out streaming. And I want to be the person no one has.

[A]

Thank you. I'd love check it out.

[B]

You should. You really should. Cuz then you could listen to so many, many other things too.

[A]

I do.

[B]

Itunes was like, not a thing anymore.

[A]

And then we all had to just, like, do screening. So every song that you had originally.

[B]

Bought, you then would have to research. I remember too, if you ever wanted, like, when it was just cable television and dvr, if you ever wanted to watch a specific episode of something, you'd have to, like, buy it on itunes. And it was like, so expensive. And I would always, like, steal my parents or like, whoever I was dating's credit card to do that.

[A]

I buy things on Fandango all the time or Voodoo at home or whatever.

[B]

Really? That's. Yeah, like Amazon Prime. I'll like, buy shop shows and movies.

[A]

Okay. But you're just talking about music.

[B]

Yeah, just music you could like. Really? Because it's kind of the same thing. That one is like a scam, in my opinion. I don't know. But also, you're loaded. Like, whatever floats your boat. You spend that $99, diva.

[A]

I do feel good about it. Bought my own music. I was gonna put this on my.

[B]

Yeah, actually, that is. I will.

[A]

I want it back to myself.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So I'm just gonna get straight into it. I. Last year I did the Devil Tango and. And it turns out it was recorded without my consent and spread amongst many, many friend groups. What do I do moving forward? I've tried to press charges and it hasn't worked. Like, what is your best. What's your best advice with that? Because I honestly don't know what to do. And I know it's best not to do anything, but like, oh, did she.

[B]

Say I did the Devil's Tango? What does that mean? Mean? I just want to say they couldn't press charges.

[A]

That's so weird.

[B]

I wonder. It's so sad. The judicial system. Like, things that get looked over. And I just want to say, like, first of all, I'm so sorry. I think that so. So more often than not, when people are talking about other crimes that were committed to them, there's only the connotation of someone was a criminal and they committed a crime to you and you are a victim. But when it comes to this, society wants to try to try to put blame on you and make you out to be something. I was just watching something very recently. I was watching, I think wags to riches like this reality show and one of the girls came in and another one of the girls was saying like trying to call her essentially for her sex being non consensually leaked. And I was like, no way. In 2025 people still think this way. And then like the girl was trying to even just say more things to her, you know, well, maybe you shouldn't be in that situation. I was like, no, this is still a thing.

[A]

Because it's like you blame the person for doing something.

[B]

Yeah. Like you, I hope you go to bed at night and you know that a up person with so much wrong in their head committed a crime against you and it's nothing can be done about it.

[A]

That's like, what's so sad? Like I don't have an advice because it's like if the cops didn't do anything, like, I mean, I don't know. That is crazy. That is crazy. We were just talking about. I don't think you bring it up again. But like, yeah, like, even when like you do that for a living, right? Like it's like I did of. I posted it of course, like behind a page, the paywall. But like even when people are sharing it outside of the paywall or in within each other and you feel so violated. I was looking into that. I'm like, is this like a crime? And like yes, so many. I never got down to it, Whatever. But so many pages were like, well, if you put it out there, if you made it so like obviously this was without her consent. It's a little different. I was taking like pictures of myself. But even so it's like, how is there nothing that can be done about it? Like people just share your nudes forever. Like I took my of down and it's like they can just have it forever.

[B]

I know. It's so, so wild. And I feel you. Because even when my stuff gets leaked, I feel the same way. I'm like, I hate this. Yeah, right. Like, I don't. I want this to remain behind the paywall. So I can't imagine in a world where it, you know, there's not even a realm of her consenting. There's not even a real. Not that we consented to that. But do you get what I'm saying? It's like zero involvement. Like just having sex with someone behind closed doors.

[A]

And it's like, it's like anyone. Because this could happen to anyone who's having just sex, which every single person in the world does.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's like, that's like such a violation, so much assault. And like, the cops are just like, we can't do anything.

[B]

It's so what I am gonna say is sometimes when unfortunate things happen to you, you then see people show their true colors. And it doesn't mean that you deserved what happened to you. It doesn't mean that it's awesome what happened to you. And you can hold that, but you can also be grateful in a way that you're immediately seeing who people are. Like you. You just weeded out a so many, many people. So many people. You don't want to be your friends. I'm sure people spreading it, people talking about it like, yeah, the spreading is crazy.

[A]

Like, how can you just send it to friend groups like, and not get in trouble?

[B]

And kids in high school just do want something to talk about. And it's so sad. In high school, I, I mean, she said around a bunch of groups, so like, I'm assuming she's in a younger age, maybe college, but like still younger. I presume just from the context, but like, I'm gonna say something that's very tana moo. Okay. And you can take this with a grain of salt, but you are the main character and you're, you're gonna be able to look back at your life one day and be like, you know what? Like, people wanted to have my name in their mouth and they wanted to talk about me because they had nothing better to do and their own lives were so boring and sad that I had to be the, the catalyst of conversation. And it's not always good, but there is something to take away from that, that like, people want to talk about you because you are more interesting than their own sad lives and just feel sad for them. Like how imagine the only thing you had to talk about was like somebody else's non consensual sex tape being released.

[A]

Like, crazy. That is why I just can't. I still can't like, wrap my head. It can't. Nothing can be done about it. That's like, so what?

[B]

Losers?

[A]

Crazy.

[B]

And I, I mean, yeah, I would say to try to do everything you can to punish these people and never stop talking about it. Wait, they're 10 years from now in corporate America and Call their jobs. No. But also let go and know that they're lower than you. Like, like I would just take that high road and be like, at least from a young age I've learned to not be this in the world. And I will say also as you grow up, you will exit these parameters with these people and exit these friend groups and eventually be able to just look back and be like, I'm so far away from that. And it taught me a lot of lessons. And at a very early age you didn't deserv that. You know?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Also just know you didn't deserve that. But you're an icon.

[A]

The violations are crazy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's wild. Yeah.

[B]

But you are an icon living. And I just, I feel so sad for all of those low life losers who have nothing better to do than talk about someone else and some something. Yeah. It's so embarrassing and sad and you're above that which automatically makes you better than them in an icon living. So I love you.

[A]

Like not to always be the karma person but like karma always comes back around. Like people who do that. I was so mad about it and then I was like, I still get mad about it but like at the end of the day you're like g. You know what? They always get what's coming to them. You know what I mean? Like some downfall in life and not like death or anything but just like, you know something.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Comes and knocks them down a little bit. So they knocked you down. But like they're gonna get it like 10 times worse. And like it does suck and it sucks. And it sucks especially because I can't even think of it because we, we have posted like sexual content. Like even think about it if you've never done that. And it's just out there like I don't even know, like I don't even like, yeah. How to fathom that. Like that's crazy.

[B]

It's just so wrong. And I think sometimes in life, especially as women, we have to just sit back and say like, hey, that thing that happened to me was up right? And there's no answer. There's no be all, end all solution. Like it's just like having to almost eat that. Like that thing was really up. But I'm going to prevail and it's going to make me stronger and better and I just, I love you and you will prevail. And soon this will feel so far away and you will have learned so many lessons that all of those low lives will probably never learn in their lifetime.

[A]

Awful.

[B]

Yeah. Ew, awful. And we love you. We love you. We love you.

[A]

Love you.

[C]

Hey girls. So I've been with my boyfriend for around nine months now and I have like a lot of tattoos or whatever. And his family is his dad's and his stepmom specifically are a lot more conservative and absolutely, absolutely hate tattoos and piercings and whatever. And I was just wondering what I should do because it's a big point of contention in our relationship because he, they know about me and whatever and I've met him, his dad a couple times but he won't bring me around that side of the family too much because he's worried about what they'll think and they don't know that I have tattoos yet. And he doesn't care at all. But he also has problems with upsetting his parents. So.

[A]

Adults have trouble like upsetting their parents over like someone they're dating is the craziest thing. Like they're scared of saying their parents to bring home the person they love.

[B]

Like it's crazy and it so hard because when you date someone, you're dating their family. When you marry someone, you're marrying their family whether you want to admit it or not. And here's the thing, like if he is on your side, you know, like maybe he doesn't go see that side of the family a lot. Maybe he just wants to protect you from them being to you because a lot of times those people are stuck in their ways and old farts who just like can't change, you know, they're going to die that way. And it's not our job as this generation to change them. So yeah, I can't gauge from this if it's giving that if it's giving like he's protecting me from them. And then obviously you still, that still just makes you sad. But not sad at him, sad at the family. But if he's cowering to them, yeah.

[A]

That'S it seems like an excuse, almost like a protection thing because it's like, well then you have a family. Like what?

[B]

Like yeah. And it's just like I, what I've always thought in situations like that. Cuz I've dated guys like this who I felt like didn't want to bring me around their family for certain reasons. And in the long run we broke up because it was just like I, if, if you're what your mom thinks or what your so and so thinks comes first, I can't, I, I realized I cannot deal with that. Like if you date your mom, then Right. But yeah, any, any hoozy, like hot take.

[A]

I think the partner should come first. I guess if you're just dating, maybe. But I see a lot of tik toks that it's like you should always put like your wife first, you know, above your family and vice versa, you.

[B]

Know, 100 and because it's also like, if you're then going to give your girlfriend the end of the stick because you can't grow a pair to your family, then date the Mormon girl. Don't put this tattooed baddie through hell. You know what I mean?

[A]

Like, think it through.

[B]

If you're. You know what I mean? If you're. Oh, I just, I hate anyone who wants to date anyone behind closed doors and can't stand up to whatever the face of, to face the fire. You know, it's like if you want to date someone in private for all the things that they are, you better be loud and proud about them in all environments. And I hope that he is doing that. There's. I'm missing a little bit of context before I really lay into this man and call him like a baby back loser. Like, I don't have enough context to like really run at home. So.

[A]

But yeah, let them be proud of.

[B]

You and if they're hiding you, then, ew, leave him. Because here's the thing also, I feel like as a. Some tattooed baddies do want the traditional looking man, but I love when two sexy tattooed people get together.

[A]

You rarely see that. But yeah, it's usually like a conservative with someone with like a wild sexy tattoos because they like the opposites. You know what I mean? And I do too. Like, I've always like, yeah, I like the opposite of me and it's, you know. But yeah, yeah, I guess find someone.

[B]

I was. I'm just saying if you feel like you're getting the end of the stick in this situation, I, that was a really hard breakup for me when I had to break up with the guy because I didn't like his family dynamic because it's like, like you tell yourself it's not them. Right? Like, I was sad because I was like, I, I adore him and they like you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And like we have a great relationship, but you're putting your mom before me and I can't stomach that for the rest of my life. And it's so much here because it's like, it's, it's not like they're cheating. It's not like they're treating you like, it's not like they're whatever. It's just at the end of the day, you're like coming second to this thing. And some people date that forever. But I am a crash out.

[A]

No.

[B]

And I would eventually show up to Thanksgiving with a firearm, right? Like, I would eventually I would have the crash out of a century. So I, I know that I'm not allowed to be in those situations.

[A]

A YouTuber a while ago, I don't know if she still does YouTube, but she used to do adult films and then she didn't anymore, but she adult films. And she was dating this guy who was like a conservative family, like, worked with his family. I don't know, they had like a family business and the family just did not approve because she was doing like adult film and they just did not like her. And they ended up starting like their own vlog channel and stuff like that. But he ended up like just leaving the family and the family business, like, quit his job, everything, just to be with her.

[B]

And then I think that's a real man.

[A]

Yeah. And I think that now they're like, they have a family. I don't know if they still like vlog, but they were vlogging. They were vlogging like their fertility journey. And I was just like that. Like it was so. Yeah, I do love that they just figured it out. You know, it was like, oh, he left his like family business and he was like, closely. She told the story a lot. She's like, oh, I was close to his family and everything. And yeah, because you know what, if your family's gonna judge and it sucks because, like, you could like love your family, but then you see them in such a different perspective because your family's gonna like judge you for like who you're with.

[B]

I'm on that side of tick tock because I interact with these videos. Let me tell you something. When I see a video of a man no longer talking to his family because they're, they don't like his wife and the, you know, the mother in law was. I think I'm on this side because of it at one point being like my trigger. Like every time I see a video, like I, I'll see that occasionally where a man's like, we had to cut off the mother in law, like my mom, because she was treating my wife like. I get that I am like, double tap, save, repost comment. I engage. I want them to know that I am a supporter because I do think it's like, if you're going to cower to your mother forever, then Date the woman who's perfect or to your family forever. I should. I'm still speaking in my trigger, but, like, like, then date the person who's. And then so many people have the families where no one's good enough for their son and, oh, my God. God, I'll jump off of a cliff.

[A]

Let that never be me. I never want to be that person. It scares me so much about having the kids. It's just, like, people who are just like, you're not good enough.

[B]

I will truly, like, be the mother who is so welcoming of. I mean, obviously, if my child's dating a piece of, I'm gonna try to interfere, but I mean, the moms who just, like, see perfectly fine relationships, and then it's like, tattoos or something, and it's. You're not good enough for my son.

[A]

That's crazy. Yeah.

[B]

Brutal.

[A]

Tattoos of it.

[B]

Brutal. Those. I hope moms go to bed at night, and they don't. They go to bed at night so happy because they want to their son. I got too off track. I hope.

[A]

Yeah. You.

[B]

This could get to ultimatum territory, is my honest answer. But I hope that he, from the context given, maybe that he is just trying to protect you from, like, the awful, conservative grandma and he just doesn't want to bring you around because she's awful and he loves you and whatever, you know. Know. Yeah. But then it's like, I don't know. Yeah. It's hard because you want. You then still want him to be like, well, then I'm not gonna see this grandma anymore.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, that's just how it is. Like, you said, they won't change their ways, but you also don't have to see them.

[B]

Yeah. It's just. Oh, my God. I wish you the best, and I hope that none of this makes you want to change who you are or cover up your tattoos or wear a turtleneck or whatever it is. Like, I hope you know, you're so hot the way you are. You deserve someone who makes you feel that way, and I love that. Your partner. Yeah. I don't know. I hope he at least makes you feel like a baddie. Next question. I'm gonna throw up.

[A]

Are you okay?

[B]

Yeah, it's just stressing me out.

[A]

Okay, we have another.

[B]

We have our final call, and Devin's saying it's a toddler. I've been waiting for this.

[A]

A toddler. Girl's crazy, but okay.

[B]

I feel like I always get tagged in Tik Toks of people making their children watch canceled and all the things And I'm not gonna lie, like, I don't recommend it. I. Every time I see it. It's a lot of newborns though. So I guess, like what I. Whatever, right?

[A]

Newborns. Don't really know. Toddler's crazy though.

[B]

It's like a three year old watching me be like, you're like, hello.

[A]

Let's crazy.

[B]

I love you.

[A]

I love you, chicken.

[C]

That was my 2 year old.

[A]

She's not talking.

[C]

She doesn't talk, baby. But just tell her how much he loves.

[A]

And Tana.

[C]

Say, I love you, Tana.

[A]

I love you, Tana. I love this age with her little voices.

[B]

Yeah. And like, oh my God, I can't wait to have a kid and just make it repeat anything I want it to say. Obviously within bounds, but I love you.

[A]

So cute.

[B]

That's so cute. I feel like Malibu's kind of at that age right now.

[A]

She is. She actually talks so much. But she's here. She loves you. She smiles, but she doesn't talk as much as I'm tired of. So like, to get her to say like phrases is a little.

[B]

What's your phrase right now? What? What? A chicken nugget.

[A]

What is it like a chicken nugget, mommy. Good luck, mom. It's so funny because it was like a script for my Trishma shows. So her lines were. She was a little cartoon in it. So we had like an animation of her. So I had to get her lines recorded. So we had her say over, over. So she kept saying, good luck, mommy. And then she's like, chicken nugget mommy. So she would say these lines and then she watched the cartoon of herself over and over. So now she just says it to like make me laugh or smile. So like, whatever. She'll like come home, home. She'll be like, good luck, mommy. Chicken nugget mommy.

[B]

That's so cute. And like, imagine like she's just already being bred to be such an icon. Like seeing a cartoon of yourself that's like played at theaters for thousands of screaming fans.

[A]

Like, oh, yeah, People gagged for it. Yeah.

[B]

She. I remember that, like at the show that plays and people do just scream and die from Alibu Barbie. And it's so iconic and they scream.

[A]

And die for you and that you come on on the gestures. It's so funny. You have like, I don't know what your line is. We had an editor do it. There's like one line. I always know it's you when you come on because we show a ton of guests and people like Then you.

[B]

Come out like, that's exactly how it was for Cancel. That's funny that we both did the same thing because, like, I would play the clips of all the guests and, like, people would actually scream like, like, like you're there. Like, they're like, they. Yes, Literally, like their life depended on it for you. And it was so cute. That's always how we would gauge how good a crowd is, was how loud they screamed for you.

[A]

Here's a little. Yeah, that's a little test. Is like, when I listen to the. The crowd, like, if they're like laughing at everything or screaming at things, you're just like, okay, it's a good crowd. If it's quiet out there, which is, you know, again, people are really respectful. Maybe they're trying to listen to the video. But I always love when someone's like.

[B]

So hyped, you know, I love the loud screaming. I think it's just like. Because that's just how I am. I'm crazy.

[A]

So.

[B]

I love the craziness.

[A]

I can't hear the music because, you know, people wear those in ears. I've never. Have you. Did you wear in ears?

[B]

No music.

[A]

Yeah, I couldn't either. Well, I was like, I don't want to listen to myself. Like, I don't like to listen to myself sing because I'm like, whatever. But I literally can't hear because people are so loud. And so I'm like, yeah, I'm like, trying to find, like, where. What's part of the song? Are we acting like I can't hear it because I always had, like a little track behind. But I was like, I should have probably wear those in ears because I never hear them.

[B]

Music is so damn hard. I can't even. Just like having the in ear and then trying to remain rhythm and then.

[A]

Like, oh, my God, no, that's like so hard. I try to practice them and it's like all you hear is that. But I want to hear the crowd. It's hard.

[B]

No, it's. I've never understood that. I think it's like, oh, it's such a talent. I can't even.

[A]

I can't.

[B]

Well, not love liners. This is episode five of the day. And thank you for just coming in and just coming in and hanging out with us while we coming in hot while we kill it. And we just love you guys so much. I feel like to all the girlies out there, please do not settle for less. And you're worth it. We love you. Yeah, you're worth it. We don't ever just say something like that. And I feel like we need two more because it's like, oh, these men really give us a run for our money.

[A]

Money actually, though.

[B]

Yeah. And we love you guys so much. We are headed to our final patreon of the day.

[A]

Patreon.com not loveline. I'm ready to get nasty.

[B]

We are this. It's we are. We always say this, but the last patreon of the day is truly like. I saw Trisha's butthole in the last one I told her all about. You already know how it goes. So we'll be over there talking. And I can't wait to get this wig off because I'm a blonde.

[A]

It's doing a thumbnail. It's cute in the thumbnail.

[B]

Yeah, I'll keep it. I'll keep it for the brunette wanners. We love you guys.

[A]

Bye.