INFLUENCER SALARIES EXPOSED, MY PROFESSOR WANTS ME TO WHAT!? | NOT LOVELINE Ep 13

Summary

Podcast Summary: Not Loveline Ep 13 – "INFLUENCER SALARIES EXPOSED, MY PROFESSOR WANTS ME TO WHAT!?"

In Episode 13 of Not Loveline, hosts Tana Mongeau and Trish Paytas dive into a myriad of topics ranging from luxury fashion to the intricate dynamics of influencer brand deals. The episode, released on March 3, 2025, offers listeners an engaging blend of personal anecdotes, candid discussions, and unsolicited advice.

Luxury Bags and Brand Authenticity

The episode kicks off with a lighthearted yet detailed conversation about high-end handbags. Tana and Trish dissect the aesthetics and value of specific Gucci bags, particularly the Chateau Marmont model adorned with beaded lettuce patterns.

Trish Paytas (00:18): "I have to was wearing this outfit, and then she has this, like, louisville bag. It's a lettuce bag."

Tana Mongeau (02:15): "I'm legally trying to see if I can buy it brand new."

The hosts debate the appeal versus the perceived ugliness of such niche bags, reflecting on personal preferences and the broader fashion industry's trends.

The Power of Manifestation

Transitioning from fashion, Tana introduces the concept of manifestation, sharing her recent experience of acquiring the coveted Gucci bag after setting a clear intention.

Tana Mongeau (04:40): "That is like three days ago. It's so weird because I did get rid of so many bags or a lot of them are in storage."

Trish echoes this sentiment, recounting her own instances where manifested desires surprisingly materialized, reinforcing the conversation's mystical undertone.

Influencer Salaries and Brand Deals

A significant portion of the episode delves into the economics of being an influencer. Tana and Trish express frustration over the disparity in earnings, highlighting how authenticity often trumps follower count in securing lucrative brand partnerships.

Trish Paytas (19:47): "Brands are dumb. They just see brand friendly or big numbers or whatever and think that like converts to like sales."

Tana Mongeau (20:19): "It's so wild because it's like quite literally, I think so many things that brands would pay us for. We could have the same following, the same engagement because of their brand safety."

They critique the industry's reliance on superficial metrics, advocating for genuine connections and content that resonates authentically with audiences. The discussion also touches upon platforms like Patreon, which they laud for valuing creator authenticity over traditional brand deals.

Spotlight on Jake Shane Carlson

Tana shifts the conversation to Jake Shane Carlson, a TikTok personality renowned for his unique humor and creative content. Both hosts express admiration for his work, praising his authenticity and the niche appeal that sets him apart from mainstream influencers.

Trish Paytas (13:00): "I love him. When you're talking about how you like to research things, people like to get to know more about them."

Tana Mongeau (14:09): "He has a whole album out. That's so funny to me."

Their enthusiastic endorsements highlight the importance of niche content creators in the broader social media landscape.

Personal Lives and Future Aspirations

The dialogue takes a heartfelt turn as Tana shares her deep bond with her pet, Malibu, and contemplates the possibility of motherhood.

Tana Mongeau (26:11): "I love Malibu so much. She makes me want a kid so bad."

Trish Paytas (27:19): "I want to have children so much."

Both hosts reflect on their personal lives, discussing the challenges and joys of parenthood, the importance of a supportive community, and the impact of their relationships on their well-being.

Advice to Callers: Navigating Workplace and Ethical Dilemmas

True to the show's advisory format, Tana and Trish respond to two callers facing significant challenges.

1. Workplace Harassment and Exploitation

   A caller seeks guidance on dealing with older female colleagues who exploit her dedication at work.

   Caller (30:07): "I'm literally desperate for some advice."

   The hosts empathize, acknowledging the toxic dynamics often present in workplace hierarchies, and encourage setting boundaries and seeking support.

2. Academic Ethics and Exploitation

   The second caller presents an alarming scenario where a professor offers to pass her course in exchange for a threesome involving him and his wife.

   Caller (40:34): "He told me that if I had a threesome with him and his wife, I would fully pass the course."

   Tana responds with a mix of condemnation and practical advice, stressing the importance of reporting such unethical behavior and prioritizing personal integrity over academic pressures.

   Tana Mongeau (42:00): "You should snitch."

Fitness, Technology, and Podcast Dynamics

Throughout the episode, Tana and Trish intermittently discuss their personal struggles with fitness routines, the influence of technology on their lives, and the behind-the-scenes aspects of podcast production. They touch upon the challenges of staying authentic while managing the technical demands of content creation.

Tana Mongeau (38:07): "I'm trying to get more into fitness, but it's just so hard."

Trish Paytas (39:33): "Who knows what's happening that they can't do that."

They also brainstorm ideas for enhancing their podcast, including the possibility of hosting a live studio audience to increase engagement and authenticity.

Closing Thoughts and Listener Engagement

As the episode nears its end, Tana and Trish encourage listeners to participate by calling in with their questions, emphasizing the value of community interaction in providing relatable and practical advice.

Tana Mongeau (45:37): "We love you guys for calling in."

Trish Paytas (45:48): "We love you guys. Never give up."

The episode concludes with the hosts expressing gratitude towards their audience, reinforcing the supportive and inclusive atmosphere that defines Not Loveline.

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Not Loveline Episode 13 offers a comprehensive look into the personal and professional lives of Tana Mongeau and Trish Paytas. Their candid conversations provide valuable insights into the influencer economy, personal growth, and navigating complex ethical landscapes, all delivered with their signature humor and authenticity.

Transcript

[Trisha Paytas]

You are kind of particular about your photos, like, what goes out there. Like, edits. You, like, edit little things that, like, literally is, like, not even a difference. But then you put out, like, you with no tooth.

[Tana Mongeau]

No. You know, it's funny. Jeff actually always cooks me for this. And it's so true. That was the first, like, reason I knew Jeff was not the one. It's like, I'm never gonna go running with you.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like, you want to go to run like hell.

[Tana Mongeau]

Never. Wait, wait, wait. Are we recording? Oh, my God. I'm so excited.

[Trisha Paytas]

I just, like, ran up three flights of stairs.

[Tana Mongeau]

Stop that. You have three flights of stairs, though.

[Trisha Paytas]

Should we do the lure of this bag?

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, my. Wait. It's so different than I thought. I'm actually so happy I'm looking at it. Oh, my God. Oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God. But imagine it's giving that bag that.

[Trisha Paytas]

We were just looking at. Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's kind of cute.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, my God. Wait. I love. It's so different than I thought it would look in person.

[Trisha Paytas]

What did you think is funny?

[Tana Mongeau]

I thought this was not shiny. Like, I thought this was matte, which is so interesting.

[Trisha Paytas]

The back is Hollywood, which is kind of cute.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

I just wanted three flights of stairs. Okay, wait, this bag, we literally were looking at Ariana Grande. My outfit.

[Tana Mongeau]

I love you.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love. Before you go up the stairs, dude.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, my God. I love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think I have to was wearing this outfit, and then she has this, like, louisville bag. It's a lettuce bag.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's like, beaded lettuce on the bag, which is crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I was like, I would love it, but also, like, it's ugly. Like, I'm not going to wear it. Like, it's an ugly bag, but I love an ugly bag sometimes.

[Tana Mongeau]

Me too.

[Trisha Paytas]

You literally is like, oh, have you seen, like, the yellow Chateau Marmont Gucci bag? I was like, it's really old. Like, it came out so long ago.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes. So, like, essentially, like, she's showing me this niche ass bag that's $15,000 with lettuce on it. And I was like, that's how I feel right now about the Chateau Marmont Gucci bag. And I've been on, like, ebay trying to, like, bid with people about it. And, like, Paige and I have this whole thing where she was like, that is so ugly. Do not buy that bag. Like, save your money. Like, whatever.

[Trisha Paytas]

She was like, no, it's ugly. I'm like, I have it. I've Never worn it. It's so ugly.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I literally thought, she's gonna be like, oh, what bag? And I would show her and we would gag, and she was like, no, I have it. And I'm like, you don't understand. I was like, trying people in Nebraska on ebay for this bag. And then she has it, and I think I'm gonna buy it brand new.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, let's see, like, the bottom. Like, never worn nothing.

[Tana Mongeau]

When did you get it? Like, you went into Gucci and when.

[Trisha Paytas]

It originally came out. Yeah, I, like, see inside there's like, a tag. I'm sure there has to be a tag because I've never gotten it.

[Tana Mongeau]

This is so funny. I want this bag so bad.

[Trisha Paytas]

It does look good on you. And now, even with this outfit, it is giving the Lou wave. Ugly bag. But, like, it's kind of cute because everyone in here was like, no, it's actually really cute. And I was like, is it? I don't know.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, I mean, Paige hated it. I think it's one of those bags where you, like, love it or you hate it. There is a tag. Trisha, you're so funny. And I was like, if you don't want it, like, I will quite literally buy it off of you. I can't buy the rainbow Birkin. I think that one has to stay with you forever.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. This one could part.

[Tana Mongeau]

This one could part.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I always send you money, so I was like, I'll just deduct it from the next one. So.

[Tana Mongeau]

This is so, so funny. Wait. Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm like, is the dust bag in it?

[Tana Mongeau]

It looks like there's like, yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. It's like. Which is a rarity for me to keep things, cuz usually I'm like, throwing everything out and I, like, never.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's so funny. I'm starting to really think that you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is there a tag in it?

[Tana Mongeau]

There is. I don't think so. I'm trying to see.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, really? Because usually there's like, oh, there is.

[Tana Mongeau]

A tag in it. You let me know what you want to do. And if you want to do it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I can deduct it at face value because. Sounds like they sell for so much.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Are you sure?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you. If you're sure. I don't want you to feel pressure. I'm literally trying to sell you, like, my roller. Whatever you want, buy it.

[Tana Mongeau]

Go.

[Trisha Paytas]

My closet.

[Tana Mongeau]

Quite literally. Will, this is so funny. I love this because Trisha's always trying to sell her stuff that she doesn't want. And I'm like, wait, I should just go up in your closet and, like, please shop. Have a field day.

[Trisha Paytas]

I have so much stuff. Especially that. Yeah, that closet we are probably gonna convert into a kid's room for, like, one of our daughters. So, like, it's gonna. All that stu. Gotta go. So I'm just like, well, no, I.

[Tana Mongeau]

Love the Beta's household clearance. You're like, you know what's funny is I saw Devin Lee Carlson with this, and, like, she's just like, so. I am such a. Like, sheep in that way. It's like when I see someone cool with something, then I'm like, wait, I want that. And I've been wanting, like, a big bag.

[Trisha Paytas]

It actually kind of is cute. At first I was like, that's so ugly. And I've never worn it for a reason, but it's very different than I.

[Tana Mongeau]

Thought it would look.

[Trisha Paytas]

And it's cute. Chateau Marmont Hollywood is very you.

[Tana Mongeau]

I love. And I used to love Chateau Marmont. I think that's why it's like a. You know what I mean? That's how you got it, right? I'm assuming.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. I'm probably just, like, at the point where I just was buying every bag that came out. I need every single bag.

[Tana Mongeau]

Somebody walk into Gucci, you're like, I need one of everything. Wait, I'm gonna have a fashion show with it in the room.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not bad. Like, I love bags like this. That's like a four. I know it's, like, crazy, but at least it's not like a Birkin. That's like, a $50,000. No.

[Tana Mongeau]

Anything more than, like. Yeah. Like, even that Loewe bag, like, you. It being 15, it's like, if you told me it was, like, three, four, five. It's like, okay, if you really want it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Because unless it's a Birkin, like a. A stock, like an unaltered Birkin, you shouldn't spend more than that on, like, any bag. And we've obviously learned that the hard way.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. I record all my Birkin purchases because I never kept the paper. I'm glad I had a tag, because sometimes it, like, doesn't. Then it, like, is worth nothing.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm so. This is so funny because you are starting to make me think manifestation is real. Because it's like, that's crazy. Even the other day, I told Paige, I was like, I'm gonna come across it, and, like, when I do, I'm gonna get it. I can't find it anywhere, but I really want it. Like, it'll come to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is like three days ago. It's so weird because I did get rid of so many bags or a lot of them are in storage. And exactly as soon as that was like I see it hanging in my closet all the time and I've never used it.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's so funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I always wanted to give it to my mom for posh. Like posh doesn't really sell like high end stuff. So it's just always sat there.

[Tana Mongeau]

I quite literally need to go upstairs and just go through your closet.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm sure there's so many things. Because you do also like, you love the like things that are hard to get.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Even if you don't know it. Like you probably, like you said, just walked into the store one day and you're like, give me every bag.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

But like for some reason you somehow are getting the things that are.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like when you said that that was so crazy. I was like, I just had a clear vision that I had that. That's so wild.

[Tana Mongeau]

So you laugh. Okay. I wish you could understand the manifestation. Like it's so wild. That's why I wish you could understand manifestation. You know what I mean? It's wild for me. Like, oh no.

[Trisha Paytas]

When you meet someone and you're just like. Or like something like wait. That's actually so weird how that happened.

[Tana Mongeau]

I've been having so many moments like this lately. Like just the psychic coincidences follow me everywhere in life.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, same, same. Like I meet people and I'm like, wait, it's a small world. Like something like a month later, I'm like working with that person. Like it is crazy. So happy. Because that was like when you said that, I was like, wait, that's so random. Cuz it's an old bag. It's like just an old design.

[Tana Mongeau]

So I was like, are you sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

You'Re talking about this one?

[Tana Mongeau]

And I quite literally have been like actually trying to fight Karen's around America for this bag online. It's so funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

Brand new, authentic, with the tags never used. So I'm so excited. Well that's great. We love that.

[Tana Mongeau]

So gagged. I can't wait to just never shut the up about this. I'm making eight TikToks. It's like me with my Adam Sandler bag whenever I carry it. Because one of the first times you and I ever podcasted together, I went upstairs my nosy and I was just like, show me everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

And you're probably like, get the out of my house. I loved it and we had so much fun. But you gave me this Adam Sandler bag, and it's so funny. I was fighting you on it. You were like, hell, no. Like, take it. And I was like, no, I can't. And now whenever I carry it, I get so many compliments on it.

[Trisha Paytas]

That bag is. I got seven. Well, we have the same. I have two of those bags. I was like, I actually take it because I have two.

[Tana Mongeau]

And everywhere I go, I get so many compliments on it. And I love being able to look girlies in the face and say, yeah, Trisha Paytas gave it to me. No, I'm kidding. But it's just so iconic.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's. I love that you wear it.

[Tana Mongeau]

Lying.

[Trisha Paytas]

Isn't that crazy? I know it's crazy.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's so crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

When you said that, I was like, I have that bag.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which is, like, crazy. Swear to God.

[Tana Mongeau]

I verbatim said, like, it'll come to me. And then, like, three days later.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's.

[Tana Mongeau]

And it's a niche bag. It's so hard to find. It's, like, sold out.

[Trisha Paytas]

No. It's just so random. And it's so old, like, sold. I want to say, like, 2018 or something. It's an old, old bag. And, like, the fact that I had. I lost a lot of Louis Vuitton, like, vintage ones and moves and stuff like that. So, like, the fact that that one stayed and I've never used it, never liked it, like, yeah, that' but now I'm like. I'm like, oh, it is a cute bag. Like, at first I was like, no, it's so ugly. But then I was like, oh, no, it's cute.

[Tana Mongeau]

And, like, a laptop in this. I. I love it so much. Yay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. I'm so glad it, like, worked out because I truly do want to get rid of, like, half my purses. Like, there's some that I, like, love.

[Tana Mongeau]

But I'm going upstairs after this. We might not be done. I might be, like, quite literally breaking even on Loveline next month. Like, I actually paid for it to be on that Loveline.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's kind of like free money, though, because I always think that, too. I'm just always like, oh, well, you know, when I send you accounts, like, it's. You didn't pay for it. You know what I mean? It's kind of like free money.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's so. I love free money. It does feel like it does. Loveline feels like free money to me because, like, I would do this for free. I always tell you like I.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you even see?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes, yes, of course.

[Trisha Paytas]

Cuz I had said it to all your people and I'm like, and even your email is like goes to page or something, right? Doesn't go to you.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, well, I mean we both are in it, we both check it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I, yeah, I see it 100. But I always tell you I would quite literally pay to do this show. Like if you told me like, oh, there's an entry fee every time and it costs $2,000 to sit on this couch with me. Like I would pay you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I'm glad you see it all because I put like so much work. I, I should text you. I'm like, I don't know if she even cares or doesn't like whatever.

[Tana Mongeau]

But no, and I always like think you're so sweet. Cuz I'm so the type where it's like, I love that you, you love this. You love to, you know, I mean, build the sets and have all the control and like, you know what I mean? Like be the person who's doing that. And I'm always like, I'll do anything you want. But you're like, no, I'm just gonna do it. And it's so sweet and like literally you could tell me nothing. Like I could never know what I'm making or anything and I would still.

[Trisha Paytas]

Just like, I love doing it on time. Like I hate tracking down and I always do with every single person I work with. Everything's net 30, next 60. Like I do it like instantly. And then like I just, yeah, it's so better.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I completely get that because even like with canceled, like we run everything through like people and like that makes it take so much longer.

[Trisha Paytas]

A lot of people too. So I'm always just like.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I like, yeah, it'll be late. And it's like, yes, it's my fault that it's late. Like I'm not saying that. But it's also like the process quite literally takes three, four, five days and sometimes we can't film and like whatever, you know, but so it's so nice. I like wish, I wish I could do things the way that you do that. I was also talking about that with Ashley last night. Like you're just so on top of it. Like you are so hard working.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh thanks. I really love doing it. I do love doing it. I love getting things out quick. I love things like fresh. I just love all of it.

[Tana Mongeau]

But you also, Even just with YouTube, you've always been like, you're pretty light on your edits.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, I do know editing. I have editors now, thank God. Like Jimmy, but.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I'm like, the exact opposite with that. Weirdly, like, it's so weird because I am such an unfiltered person. So you'd think that I would just be like, put out the raw footage. But I think I'm too unfiltered.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, that's crazy to me. This is wild.

[Tana Mongeau]

Canceled episodes. I feel like I'm always cutting, like, 30 of it out because I say the most.

[Trisha Paytas]

At it. Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Because I. I just start saying I get so comfortable, and I'm like.

[Trisha Paytas]

But it's never bad. Like, you do cut out a lot of things. I'm always like, I don't care. I'm always just like, oh, it's like, not bad.

[Tana Mongeau]

I. I know, but it's like, oh, my God. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

You think?

[Tana Mongeau]

I don't think so sometimes. Even the other day.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really?

[Tana Mongeau]

Here, I'm more, like, conscious. Unfortunately, canceled, because it's like, Right?

[Trisha Paytas]

You say more.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. And it's very 50. 50. Because sometimes I say the bull and I'm like, leave it in. Let's stir the pot this week. But even, like, last week, Devin came and I told this, like, story about this, like, musician that, like, no one knows has ever wanted me or ever wanted to hook up with me or, like, anything like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Name. The name. Can you say the name? And I promise, bleep. I promise we'll bleep. Bleep.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes, yes, yes. I was talking about.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my. I have a story, too. Okay. I have so many stories. That's crazy.

[Tana Mongeau]

Okay, Jimmy, Even bleep when I whispered. And cover that, please, because I just.

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel like that one mouth last time, even to, like, blur.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Like, I whispered it a little. So just make sure. Be honestly. You know why? Because I think I would get sued over that one. I really do. I think the whole story. Yeah. I think that those. I don't. I can't even actually finish my take. I think I would get sued over it. And I can't tell the story, but book. Maybe one day. But. Yeah. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was it recent or a while ago?

[Tana Mongeau]

No, it was a while ago.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. And it's. It's not what you even think. Like, it's.

[Trisha Paytas]

I need to know. Okay.

[Tana Mongeau]

Afterwards, it's like a niche. Like, it was. It was an interesting experience of my life. And I have a story, too.

[Trisha Paytas]

And it's like. Like, it's more recent.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm so excited. Yeah, that one just couldn't make it to the, like. If I put out Raw Canceled, I would, like, quite literally probably be dead. Someone would have put a hit out on me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it's probably for real.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I used to cut way less, and then I'd get in way more trouble. So I've just, like, learned over time.

[Trisha Paytas]

Even your photos, it's so funny, is, like, you are kind of particular about your photos. Like, what goes out there. Like, edits. You, like, edit little things that, like, literally is, like, not even a difference. But then you put out, like. Like, you with no tooth.

[Tana Mongeau]

Jeff actually always cooks me for this. And it's so true. It's like, one hair out of place, and I have to patch and smooth it or I'm gonna go insane. And then I will put myself out there with no tooth.

[Trisha Paytas]

Just, like, the worst angles in bed.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I'm like, yeah, so odd. It's. It's one or the other. That is so weird. I've always thought about that. Even, like, before Tick Tock, I would always be, like, the person I am on YouTube and the person I am on Instagram are two completely different people.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, I'm on Instagram, like, making sure everything's perfect, and then I'm on YouTube on the toilet. Low angle. Last night's dripping down my face. Tooth out. Yeah, that's interesting. No, that's got to be something. We need Dr. Drew here for that one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Dr. Drew's coming soon.

[Tana Mongeau]

Because Instagram, to me, feels like, I don't know, the place where you just want to, like, present. And Instagram's more men.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I still want to, like, you know, get the men's money on that one website. Right, right, right. So then I like, try, but it is weird sense.

[Trisha Paytas]

That actually makes sense. That makes a lot of sense. And Tick Tock's, like, relatable and, like, the girlies and all that stuff like that.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, I guess that's true. It's like, it is just like a different audience. Like, on Instagram, the things you put out always make it to the men. So I like, like, and more. But who gives a. Like, you know, as my favorite Instagram presence is Jake Shane. Like, I love that he just doesn't.

[Trisha Paytas]

Ride so hard for Jake Shane. I like. I like him. I don't know much about him, but it's like, you write so hard. I love him.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm a super fan.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's so crazy. What part? Like, the podcast is Tick Tocks. Like, what is it?

[Tana Mongeau]

His sense of humor. I just don't know how to express it is so for me, like, his, like, every joke he makes, I'm cackling at dying in my bed. Like, it's not for the bit. Like, even just like makoa. Sometimes we'll be in the car and I'll show him like 30 Jake Shane tick tiktoks. And I know he's like, I get it. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

He loves it.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, no, he's like, like, you could have showed me 10. Like, I get the bit.

[Trisha Paytas]

I get showing him, like, the jokes. Like Abraham Lincoln, like, trying to stop.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, those I love. Like, yes, eat those up. That's how I discovered him. But even, like, the fact that, like, an airline will piss him off and he's doing like, a notes, app, poem on his grid. Peak comedy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, you love.

[Tana Mongeau]

And his, like, awkwardness, like, the way he. And he's just. He's so funny to me. Like, I will always give Jake Shane his flowers. I think he deserves 10 times more fame than he has, honestly. Even the music. Like, how he, like, will write a song about an airline or like a pair of jeans not fitting or like, whatever.

[Trisha Paytas]

He writes music.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. He has a whole album out.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, what? And then, like, he'll have, like, a serious singer. Is he like Seth McFarlane where he's just like, like, just like.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, it's more like campy and, like, funny. But, like, then he'll have Alexander23 produce it, who did, like, Olivia Rodrigo's whole album and Renee Rapp helping him in the studio. And it's like, that's. That's so iconic that you're having, like, like, to me, that's my peak sense of humor that you're like, having, like, esteemed people help you write a Diss track to JetBlue airlines. Like, that's so funny to me. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it. I just.

[Tana Mongeau]

I, like, eat him up.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love him. When you're talking about how you like to research things, people like to get to know more about them. That's what I'm going to do. I'm going to, like, look up Jake Shane Moore so I can, like, get to know more about you.

[Tana Mongeau]

I do think he is more, like, niche. Like, I. I see how some people. It's a very specific sense of humor.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right?

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, and it's either, like, you're into it or you're not. But I am, like, and I think my love for him is so much louder because you meet so many people and then they're nothing like their online presence or they are. They suck and they're mean and whatever. And he is, like, truly authentic to himself and a really great person. So I'm just like, I've met him twice.

[Trisha Paytas]

In both times, he's like, so. And at big events, too. I saw him at the Wicked premiere and he like, I'm pretty sure he came up to me because I go up to nobody. I, like, hide in a corner. So, like, I'm pretty sure he came up to me and was like, literally so nice. And then, yeah, at the Ben Platt concert, we met and I think I went up to him there. I had my agent with me and I was like, I kind of want to hi Addiction.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

If he liked me or not. So I was just like, I don't know.

[Tana Mongeau]

So he loves you.

[Trisha Paytas]

So nice. And I didn't get, like, enough to say, like, just like, super, super nice. I was like, wow, this person's like, really, really nice. So we didn't talk much. Obviously.

[Tana Mongeau]

A lot of times those influencers too are just blowing smoke up. They don't mean it.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I think he's, like, genuine.

[Tana Mongeau]

Very genuine. And like, we just will go so deep sometimes too, on combos. Like, he really, like, he's so intelligent. And like, his just branding, marketing, like, he's, he's, he's.

[Trisha Paytas]

That he's ever. He. This sponsored tour stuff comes up all the time. Like him, like Jake Shane, we're trying to find Jake. Whereas, yeah, it comes up like, everything. I'm like, damn, he really.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I just love to see him win because I think so many times too, especially his era of tick tock.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Tana Mongeau]

All the people that blew up at the same time as him. A lot of those other people, not all of them, like, literally just a few aren't necessarily that good of people. So then I'm seeing their, like, big partnerships. This sounds like I'm talking about Alex Earl, and I'm not. I love her.

[Trisha Paytas]

But like, yes.

[Tana Mongeau]

Just their sponsorships and whatever. And it's like, ugh, that person sucks.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

You know, or they think they're so famous and they, you know, the time of day, they won't give it and whatever. Just so I love to see him win because he's great, you know, and genuine.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I. Speaking of sponsorships, you were. And tell me a sponsorship story.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, my God, your memory is so good.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I was like, oh, wait, I want to.

[Tana Mongeau]

So did you see a tick tock A few this like went viral. Did anyone see this? It's. I don't want to say this brand but it's like a probiotic powder. Right. And the girl went up to James Charles at a coffee shop and he's sitting there with the lid off and then she pours her drink into his.

[Trisha Paytas]

Cup and it's trailer staged.

[Tana Mongeau]

No one knew. Right. Like every, all the comments were like, if this is real, you're so awful. Like yada yada.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's sitting at a Starbucks and she pours something into his cup.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes. Like imagine you're sitting there at a Starbucks with your, your matcha with the lid off and then someone walks up to you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sounds kind of stage. Cuz why is your like lit off?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. And so then they started sending me more and it's like a brand deal. Like Harry Jowy did it and like a bunch of other people.

[Trisha Paytas]

The probiotic drink thing.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, so it's staged.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes, so it's staged and I'm like wondering if I should do it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Absolutely. That's so funny. That's so weird.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, the lidless drink obviously makes it staged.

[Trisha Paytas]

The pranks are cringe.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, I agree. But I love money. I think I like, I also think it's like a viral moment, which I love. But like I also, yeah, like I also have to put my own spin on it. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Honestly, I would take it for that.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's like I like almost want to respond and be like, can I swing on you? Like imagine I tried to fight her. Like that's like so funny. But like they're not going to say yes to that.

[Trisha Paytas]

They seem pretty wacky over there.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's a really interesting marketing tactic.

[Trisha Paytas]

So you should do it. I think you should do it for sure. That's crazy though. Did you see? I don't like put her on blast, but it was pretty public. The Remy Ashton thing where she like linked. She is doing an airy sponsorship. Like an airy. Is that how you say A, E, R, I, E? It's like a sports area. Yeah, airy. And she like linked and she. I love this outfit. Whatever. And then linked and it went to the proposal of like how much and like what her deliverables were.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's so funny because it's just an incorrect copy and paste. That's something I would so do on accident. And I just, you know, one I.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wondered, I was like, did she do it or do they set? Because that is crazy. That's a crazy thing. But also I've never linked. I'VE never had a link where I go to my deliverables. Like they always just showed in the email. So I was like, where is that? Like what page is it going to? Anyways, I don't know if it's like her fault or what, but I'm like. And I, this is what I'm saying. I know influencer brand deals exist like that, but I just assumed, I guess everybody was getting those except for me. I was like, well maybe everyone's getting that.

[Tana Mongeau]

The thing is this is like authenticity is what sells products. And I've worked with so many brands and I'm nosy. Like a lot of times when I work with brands I will like get to know the people and like, you know what I mean? Then they just end up spilling to me because I have that type of personality. And like I've done so many brand deals where they'll be like, you converted a hundred thousand more sales than the big brand safe influencer that, you know what I mean, has triple your following and whatever.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, because brands are dumb. I will credit someone on Tick Tock for saying this. I can't remember who, but they were so sweet. And I'm not saying this because they were nice to me, but brands are dumb. They just see like brand friendly or big numbers or whatever and think that like converts to like sales rather than like you said, like authenticity or something. Like something you genuinely like. And I think it shows when you like sell tickets to shows or whatever. And then more people are like, oh, like this person has like influence on something. But yeah, I never, I've never gotten brand. Hence why we love Patreon. Like both my just trash and this Patreon truly is like my are my biggest things for me. And that's why I love Patreon like so much because they get it and it's like all these other brands who like don't get it, you know.

[Tana Mongeau]

But it's so wild because it's like quite literally, I think so many things that brands would pay us for. I know other influencers are getting paid triple for the same thing. We could have the same following, the same engagement because of their brand safety. It's always been that way for me and I know it because I'm nosy. People always just tell me what they get for their brand deals and what they make and it's these other people are making millions and millions on brand deals.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like Michaela, I mean, I don't know her, but millions, yeah, what she makes per one. I'm like, that's Grillons.

[Tana Mongeau]

And it quite literally could be something that you and I wear every single day. Love so much.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

And would sell millions of dollars of product with. And the brand would rather have someone who sells less. It's so wild. But it's because the. Because all those brands obviously, like, yes. While the young creative social media director at the company knows us.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's got to go up to the big wigs who then see our.

[Trisha Paytas]

I scan think it's changing a little. You know, there's more companies I work for now, and I go in there and they're just so young and they, like, get it and they push it. You know what I mean? And I think that's what's cool. Just like, in general, I do things and it's like the people did my Broadway short. Younger. Younger than me. They're like 27. And they're like these Broadway producers and they were like, we need trash. And everyone's just like, why I don't get this? And then ends up being, like, really successful. Whatever. SNL too. Like, yeah. I remember Bowen told the story. He's like, he had to tell Lauren Michaels, like, who I was. He's like, she's this. You know what? Yes. Like, pitch it. Because, yeah, obviously they don't know, and I get that. But it's like, yeah, you know, it's kind of cool. And it is.

[Tana Mongeau]

I think it's changed so much.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Versus five years ago. It's changed so much. Like, brands are starting to get on the wave that authenticity is going to sell their products more, create more viral moments, which is great. I still think there'll always be a little bit of an imbalance with the brand safety, but that's the price you pay. No.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I get it. I'm never someone who, like, will complain. I'm always just shocked. Or myself, like, well, good for freaking Remy Ash. And that's amazing because could never be me, but I did do it to myself. So I'm not like, oh, God, why don't brands want to work for me?

[Tana Mongeau]

That's 100. The other thing is, it's like, I'm not because I did it to myself. It's just funny because I guess now that I'm in so much more of a wholesome era, I'm like, look at me. I'm so Coca Cola. No, you're not. No, you're not. Same, like, yeah, same.

[Trisha Paytas]

I see pull up sponsoring so many people who have kids that are, like, being potty trained. Like, I love her. What's her name. She has a son that's, like, around Malibu's age and they're doing potty training and she goes to that. Like, she gets sponsored by Pull Ups all the time. Meghan Trainer does too.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, people get pregnant and get sponsored by Clear Blue. I'm like, I would sooner get sponsored by Plan B to, like, eat it. Like, it's like, no, crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Plan B does not do sponsorships.

[Tana Mongeau]

I know, but one of them does. I think it's Julie or whatever. I worked with them a little bit.

[Trisha Paytas]

I worked with Julie.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, they're great.

[Trisha Paytas]

We do love them.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, but I had so many questions and obviously the purse was a sign and then I wanted to know about the brand deal and. Yes, but really, too, I. I'm happy for all the people who are, like, brand friendly and I love that Remy's getting that much because that's crazy. But me too, me too.

[Tana Mongeau]

Me too. And I made my bed. I'm going to lie in it. If I was getting paid $45,000 for an Instagram story, you know, that they would have me, like, skydiving off the Empire State, like, selling my soul and my limbs.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, actually, it's. It's amazing, actually. You know what? Her fans on Tick Tock all were like, good for her. We love this. She works out. Like, they were like, cheering her on. So, like, I think that was good because some people were just like, what the hell?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Because obviously there's always the people who are going to say influencers make too much money and quite frankly, they do.

[Trisha Paytas]

But yeah, there's like a debate to be like, I guess it's a marketing dollar and stuff.

[Tana Mongeau]

And that's what I was gonna say.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, but it is.

[Tana Mongeau]

And a billboard is $45,000. It's the same thing. It's like just human billboards, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So, yeah, it is. It is crazy. But I. I get it for sure. Like, you know, I'm.

[Tana Mongeau]

She deserves that so much. Remy Ashton is the sweetest girl in the world and, like, just kills it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. For her, I was, I was like, damn.

[Tana Mongeau]

Quite Literally will never happen for me. And I'm so sad and jealous, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

I wish people could see my brain. Brand deal.

[Tana Mongeau]

Shout out to the brands, though.

[Trisha Paytas]

Honestly, that's what I'm saying is, like, they are coming around and, like, they don't need to and they didn't have to. And I'm appreciative and I think my people maybe experiences too. They're just like, happy that I get a brand deal. Because we're so long. I was like, I never get it. So they're like, whatever you're selling will buy. And which is great.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, it is amazing. No complaints here. Just funny, funny conversation.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, for sure. For sure. And I think you're the one person who can, like, relate to.

[Tana Mongeau]

I always want things to be funny and interesting, but when it comes to like, camera quality and I don't care as much as I probably should.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I'm. Yeah, my, my videos. That's why I stopped making videos on YouTube because they're just like not good quality. But I love like podcasts and stuff. I like to have like nice looking things. But Moses helps you with it. Like, I don't. I can never do it myself.

[Tana Mongeau]

I was telling you the other day I watched that video of you with the red wig and Jake like a thousand times.

[Trisha Paytas]

And Jake.

[Tana Mongeau]

Tara Yummy's Jake Weber. Oh, it's my favorite video.

[Trisha Paytas]

That literally is just like his camera and it's like Tesla. I do like him. He's. He's funny. Yeah. It was just him and me and no Johnny. And I always think that's like. It's always so awkward. It is awkward. We're talking about hanging out. Like, we're awkward in 7:11.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm like, so literally what, you and James talk? Yeah. What do you guys have in common? Do you have anything else?

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what I'm saying. The shopping, like, gives me so much anxiety because I go around like, oh, look at the Reese's. Like, like, I love this candy. I'm like, really? Me too. Like, I just like randomly say it's just like the most awkward thing.

[Tana Mongeau]

That is so funny. There's certain people that you just collab with and it's like, it is awkward the whole time. Like that happens to me sometimes where it's just like we don't have anything in common.

[Trisha Paytas]

I like talking to him in the car. I think the like shopping aspect of it when we're not filming, I'm just kind of like, I feel like literally his mother just like walking with him in a store. But also in like a cosplay, which I normally like, love and slay, but I feel a little like silly because it's like, I don't know. But he's kind of a cosplay because I feel like he's not really like that.

[Tana Mongeau]

People always say he gives like a frat boy went emo.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I think it was like a vibe that he. And maybe like dressing like it now. But I give a Little. I get a lot of cosplay vibes from him, which I love. Love.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, A lot of people get like up in arms when people dress emo or punk, but they're not emo or punk. Like, you know, but like, who gives? He's vibing. He loves it.

[Trisha Paytas]

We just love to cosplay emo together.

[Tana Mongeau]

Sad boy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sad boy. Maybe him and Tara could come on not Loveline and talk about Honestly.

[Tana Mongeau]

That'd be fun.

[Trisha Paytas]

Look at him. A leopard couch over here. They fit the vibe. Actually our brand is leopard and nothing's leopard yet in our head.

[Tana Mongeau]

We know, we know, we know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I got the matching Skips pajamas coming.

[Tana Mongeau]

I was just gonna say take that out of my loveline pay too.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, that's not. That is leopard like gift buying me.

[Tana Mongeau]

Dolan Gabana skims, being like, it's a gift like, Noana, I'm going to pay you. I'm going to like seed money around the house. You'll find it in a year.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would never find it in this house.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh yeah, I can put it in Malibu's pocket. She'll take it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Loves you. She can like cry. She'll like gets a little scared when there's people around. But like yesterday she went to the stairs to like wait for Moses, cuz he's finishing everything up. But like as soon as she sees you, it's like she like smiles so big. She like they held hands for like.

[Tana Mongeau]

She wasn't like, she was holding like I was holding her hand for like a while and then finally I had to go and then she was holding on to my finger so tight and I like literally got so sad. I was like, I can't let go of her hand. I love her so. I love Malibu so much. Like, obviously I love baby Elvis too, so much. But Malibu, I feel like I've really started to like see grow up and like even just like our relationship like develop and like I love her so much. She makes me want a kid so bad.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's actually crazy how like connected you are her because it's like she is like shy around everybody and. And then when you leave, she says your name over and over. She says Tana. Tana. It's like so cute and it's so funny.

[Tana Mongeau]

So cute like, oh my God, I love her so much. If I think about it too much, I'll just quite literally cry.

[Trisha Paytas]

You'll be a really good mom. If you do decide to have kids. I think you'll be like such a good mom.

[Tana Mongeau]

I just have so much fun With Malibu. She, like, always loves my jewelry, too, so I always show her what jewelry I'm wearing. And it's.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're like a Barbie doll because you have your nails and your jewelry and, like, everything. She's probably just, like, so in. Odd. There is something about you. No, there's, like, something about you for sure, that she's definitely like, I love her so much. She's always been like that. Even as a baby, when you'd hold her, she'd be like, so. Yeah, she wasn't always like that. No.

[Tana Mongeau]

And she'd, like, cry if someone else hold. Would hold her. And I'd be like, yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's so odd because she's just like that.

[Tana Mongeau]

But, yeah, she loves me. I love her. I love Malibu so much. God, I want.

[Trisha Paytas]

I want.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's the thing, though, is it's like, if I had a kid and my kid wasn't as, like, good as Malibu Barbie, I'd be like, no, she were Malibu Barbie.

[Trisha Paytas]

Your own baby will be, like, so obsessed with you, for sure. Like, even. Even more so.

[Tana Mongeau]

I hope so. I love her.

[Trisha Paytas]

It'd be so cute. I feel like your mom era is coming sooner than.

[Tana Mongeau]

Than I think, probably. I don't. Dude, I've been lately, I'm like, oh, my God. I'm almost like. I've been watching a lot of Chelsea Handler, and, like, she doesn't want kids. And, like, I used to not want kids, and then now I get in my. Like, wait, am I this person? And society's forced me into wanting kids. But then I'm like, no, I. I want kids.

[Trisha Paytas]

You do?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, I do.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do switch.

[Tana Mongeau]

I guess.

[Trisha Paytas]

You never wanted to care, but you, like, wanted to adopt. Yeah, I always.

[Tana Mongeau]

Or a surrogate. I, like, I want kids.

[Trisha Paytas]

What is Chelsea Handler? What is her? I. I love, by the way, when people say they don't want kids because I love when they know. I think that's, like, so selfless to be like, I don't want kids. Like, I love it.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

What did she say about it?

[Tana Mongeau]

She had this whole bit that I was just watching that was really funny. It was during the pandemic. It was, like, right after. And she was. Was, like, just cracking jokes about how, like, all these people who said they wanted kids then actually had to spend time with them all day, every day. And she was just saying, like, I was taking mushrooms on a random Tuesday at noon. Like, yeah, you know what I mean? Like, flexing on the people with the kids. And it was like. It was really funny. She's really like funny and brash about it. You know what I mean? She's like, you losers. Like she's. It's Chelsea. So she's like, you know it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it. I love when people like that because kids are hard. They're actually like you.

[Tana Mongeau]

Nobody who doesn't want kids should have kids. And I think it's like so powerful and amazing when people say that they don't.

[Trisha Paytas]

And people were like, oh you should have. I'm like, y'all are pushing something crazy. Because if I didn't have Moses and my mom like I would like be struggling. I would not even be able to like survive.

[Tana Mongeau]

So 100. I feel the same way. It's like I already know I'm gonna need. It's an all hands on deck operation. Everyone always makes a joke. Even Paige. She's like, when you have kids, I know I'm gonna have a kid. And it's so true.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, no, but you need it. I mean that's why they say it takes a village. We have so many people to help us and.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, I just have to work on my laziness a little more I think because I'm very lazy about self care like certain things like, you know what I mean? Even just like cleaning up and like just I take my time and like with kids you can't be that level of lazy at all. It's like you have to do these things.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's why I'm in my decluttering de hoarding era. Because I don't want her to grow up in like clutter and hoarding because she probably even already. She doesn't like things like crowded. So I'm like trying to get rid of stuff and yeah, bathing. It's bathing every day. And like I wasn't always showering every day. So it's like yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like trying to be exactly like just things like that I have to be more.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Better about. Which is crazy cuz it's a journey for me. I'm excited too. One day and our kids are going to be great friends.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like that's so fun. The play dates will be so fun. Stop now. I want one. I took this photo of baby Elvis yesterday and I've been showing everyone like it's my own kid. I'm like, look how cute.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, you took like the best picture. It looked like a baby photo.

[Tana Mongeau]

I need to send it to you. It's so cute on the little edge of the set.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. It was so cute and she was so happy. She's like looking back, like, she was so excited.

[Tana Mongeau]

Okay, we should take a caller, but I don't even want to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, let's try and get at least two questions. We'll try and go quickly.

[Tana Mongeau]

Sorry. Hi.

[C]

I need some work advice. I've been working at this place for about three years and I'm the youngest. And these older woman take advantage of me. I run laps around these and there will be 30 patients and I'll take 23 of them. And I'm truthfully not very good at sticking up for myself. And I can't keep doing my job as well as Everybody else's for $19 an hour power. I'm literally desperate for some advice. Love y'all. Bye.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, that's so hard. And older women, like, can be so nice. But I do feel like there is a certain group of older women sometimes who are, like, jealous of the younger girls and are so mean and catty in, like, their own way.

[Trisha Paytas]

Every. I feel like it is. You have to, like, consciously not be mean to the younger ones.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Any field you see it with like, the View, the ladies on the View who are so old and so mean to, like, all the young girls. We see it all the time with like, Britney Spears, like, Dan. Sorry, like Rosie. All these people are like, the way she dressed, like, why are you dressed like that? Like, it is just like an inherent Renee rap, I think. Called out a bunch of like, old ladies for like, you know.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, it's just like. And where does she wear hospitals, that what you said.

[Tana Mongeau]

She said patients, so I'm assuming. Yeah, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So it's like it really does matter what walk of life my teacher is like. I always had, like, female teachers that were just like, awful and not even saying they're jealous. I think it's just like me. I was like that, like years. A couple years ago, just with the ASMR and Dixie, I was just like, oh, my God, how? Like, they're so intense. Whatever. And you're like, oh, my God. You're just like, shut up. Like, they're young kids.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, why let them live? And I almost could see people, like, taking advantage of her. Like, spry, young, eager, hard working nature. You know what I mean? Which absolutely sucks. It's almost like a boyfriend. I feel like you have to communicate with your boss and communicate with people and create those boundaries because you don't deserve that. And if. Same thing as the boyfriends. It's like, if this place doesn't want to treat you right, there are other jobs that will.

[Trisha Paytas]

I Wonder if it's like that common though is like just people taking advantage of the younger people.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. And it's just like that even happened with like our little sister, like Amari's little sister. She was working at this veterinary office and absolutely killing it. And she loves animals so much, so her soft spot, people were taking such advantage of her, like, during that. You know what I mean? And finally she had to quit even though she loved the job because people were just being like, awful, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

That sucks. It sucks that that's the answer is like. And yeah, sometimes, like, reporting it doesn't help because then they just tell those people or like, whatever, or you're booted even though you're in the wrong. But I guess, like, yeah, you have to say something. If you're just like, I can't do this. And like, you're not getting paid enough for to do other people's jobs, like, you just gotta.

[Tana Mongeau]

Especially because it's one of those things that will just build up. Like, if it's gonna keep happening, they're probably gonna. They're comfortable taking advantage of you. They're gonna keep doing it. And people are.

[Trisha Paytas]

So you gotta put those old in their place at. And it's like, sometimes you need to hear it because it's like.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And most likely don't wake up either because, like, old women, they are just bitter. But like, society makes us better. I don't really blame them. But I really. I really make an effort to be like, let me not judge young girls.

[Tana Mongeau]

Or like, I feel like the way older generation, it's 50, 50, you know, there's 50 of people who are willing to grow and change and accept the new generation and the other 50% who are probably going to be stuck in their ways till they croak, you know, unfortunately.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I like to adapt with the new. And.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. And I think that's like such an amazing trait. And it's hard though. So I'm like. Especially the like, generation before us is so against that, even with technology and everything. So true.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

I wish for the best.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. This is such a cute bag too.

[Tana Mongeau]

Thank you. And then. But then with this, I saw like a perfect fake on the gate. And I was like, hello from the gate.

[Trisha Paytas]

What's the gate?

[Tana Mongeau]

DH Gate. We don't know about the gate. They sell all the fake.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Authentic. I mean, it looks real.

[Tana Mongeau]

It looks so real.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

I just want this headache to go away. I don't know. I'm having a day, like, just my body is like rejecting Me being, like, happy and alive and healthy, and it's like, hello, we're not on the same page.

[Trisha Paytas]

Everything's good.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Honestly. Yeah. This really made my day.

[Trisha Paytas]

How random. That's been there literally since, like 20, 2018.

[Tana Mongeau]

I know you've never carried it.

[D]

Trisha, I was wondering if you could be in the next Fortnite update because, like, you're kind of like my favorite content creator ever. And, like, I don't know, I feel like you'd be the best Fortnite skin ever. I kind of want to play as you, Trisha Paytas. I get like, there's just like this other guy who answers the phone, but, like, I kind of need you in Fortnite and, like, I need, like, emotes too. Like, recreating everything. Like, you know, like your big, like, collection of just random items. They need to make that an emote. Like, please, like, please make them add you to Fortnite. Okay, toodles.

[Tana Mongeau]

Bye.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's if I have a say on, like, what Fortnite does. I'll get on it.

[Tana Mongeau]

Trisha. That is. That would actually be like, I'm saying it right now. Fortnight is so. They would really be missing a giant opportunity if they did not have you as a skin. Because, like, they have Billie Eilish. They have Marshmallow the weekend and the amount of. The amount of girls and gays that would let, like, like, Ashley would die. She plays Fortnite every day.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Mari plays like, every day. Like, much money on for I would gladly drop. What do you stream? No, you play for fun and it playing. They all do every. I don't get it. I get so mad.

[Trisha Paytas]

When have you tried?

[Tana Mongeau]

I've tried. I'm really bad at it. I just hide until the storm gets me.

[Trisha Paytas]

The storm can get you.

[Tana Mongeau]

I don't even like, goes in and you have to, like, go to the center of the storm.

[Trisha Paytas]

I can't even land out of the helicopter.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, I don't know how to do.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then like, depending pick up a gun. Like, what?

[Tana Mongeau]

No, like, my reaction time is not fast enough, I think, to be like a serious gamer. Like, I'm always like, oh, they're gonna shoot me. They shot me. Like, I can't say.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know how to turn to look at people. I'm just like, what?

[Tana Mongeau]

No. There's so many controls. But the amount of your fans that probably play Fortnite and the amount of girls and gays that would download Fortnite to play to have your skin and Then while you play, it plays the music so, like, it could play I love you. Jesus.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's so funny. But, like, she could not run. Like, she could. Like, she would not be able to run.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, my God. She's just, like, a little slower than all the other characters. That's hella funny. That's hella funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

That should be, like, the advanced levels. Like, you're gonna get, like, a little bit of a handicap because she can't run very quickly.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

Have you tried to run?

[Tana Mongeau]

I hate running. I've tried it a few times. I don't really like you, though.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, okay, let's say you're in a horror movie and, like, you have to run tana. Skip the night, I guess. Did you run in that?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes, but not well. Like, in a heel, I probably could do okay day, but I'm no runner. Track star energy. I suck at running. I hurt my knee the other day trying to run on the treadmill. I'm like, I'm 80.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I physically. But I physically, like, don't know the motion of running. Like, there was a music video we watched in mine. It's called Dead and Gone, and I'm supposed to run through the forest. Like, my sister's chasing me, but it's supposed to be, like, me chasing myself. Like, I literally. My feet don't even, like, come up off the ground. Like, I'm like, how do people.

[Tana Mongeau]

And it's. I feel so embarrassing.

[Trisha Paytas]

I can't do it.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, I run. I run. Everyone makes fun of how I run. Like, I can't even, like, actually run. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe next time you come when it's, like, light out, we'll try and, like, run.

[Tana Mongeau]

We could make, like, a Zila Fit fitness mockumentary where we're, like, running around a track. I would watch that, honestly. That's funny. That is really funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm not gonna lie. It makes me want to do the Zela Fitness Challenge. I'm kind of like, well, I would like to, but, yeah, girls. And, like, no shade, obviously, the girls never seem to, like, get, like, where the guys are. What's happening that they can't do that. And then maybe it's probably. It's probably who's training them. What's his name? Ilya. Yeah, so maybe he's just, like, massages, because I'm gonna, like, fail you girls or whatever. But it's also, like, I know they lost weight. Like, I know Susie, like, lost weight. And like, I guess now they lost weight and stuff. But it's never, like, David's transformation.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's like, yeah, his transformation was crazy. I guess it's about commitment, too, though. Probably just personally, how much the person wants to commit to it, I don't really know. But Jeff is always trying to get me to even, like, run with him. That was, like, how. That was the first, like, reason I knew Jeff was not the one. It's like, I'm never gonna go running with you.

[Trisha Paytas]

You want to go on a run?

[Tana Mongeau]

Like hell. Never.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think when he was on my podcast, he talked about, like, doing a transformation. I think he said he paid The Antonians, like, $50,000. I'm like, pay me $50,000. I'll do it. He's like, I would. And I was like, I don't know about that. Yeah, no, I mean, like, 5 million to do a transformation.

[Tana Mongeau]

I would need a lot of money to want to do that. I really am trying to get more into fitness, but I was just telling you, it's, like, so hard.

[Trisha Paytas]

So hard. Like, I don't even. I think I'm too far gone at this point. I'm just like, I don't know.

[Tana Mongeau]

I know. And it's like, I just beat myself up about it. Cause it's such a great habit. I was telling you. Even, like, Ashley loves it. It. And I don't have that programming where it's like. Like, I'll do it, but every single time afterwards, I'm like, oh, my God. And that's why I'm like, I just wish I could just shoot up all the ozempic in the world forever. But I'm trying not to do that. It, like, scared. Scared me and, like, whatever, and just. I don't know, dude. It's hard. It's really.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love the tour. It's like going on a plane and walking through the airport. Because I just went to, like, London and New York and walking through the airports, I'm like, dad. I was like, wow, I just did, like, a hike.

[Tana Mongeau]

I love things that forced me to get my steps in 100. I agree with that. Like, because then when you come home, you feel fulfilled. You're like, at least I did so healthy. But it's, like, at gunpoint.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, actually. Or, like, standing. Like, the meet and greets take, like, an hour and a half, and you're just standing.

[Tana Mongeau]

Standing is a workout, and we don't talk about that enough. I love to sit. I. I will sit on the floor anywhere. Paige has a whole album in my phone in her phone of just me. Like, it could be the dmv. I'm sitting on the floor if I'm in line.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love sitting on the floor, too.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, normalized floor sitting. I keep seeing those tick tock shop things where it's like, it looks like a purse, but then it expands into a little mini bar stool that you can sit on. And, like, I'm buying it. I am that. I'm that demographic.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love that. Yeah, I just, like, always have a chair.

[Tana Mongeau]

I love sitting more than, like, most things. I love sitting more than, like, sitting.

[Trisha Paytas]

I sit any chance I can get.

[Tana Mongeau]

I just say it's the best thing in the world.

[Trisha Paytas]

Even if, like, Moses standing, talking to me in the kitchen. Like, I can sit. Yeah, I need to sit.

[Tana Mongeau]

I have to. I love sitting. It's my favorite activity. Like dream date sitting.

[Trisha Paytas]

Does anyone have a podcast like standing? Or is everyone always sitting?

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, my God. I don't know. Probably. Yeah, probably something fitness.

[Trisha Paytas]

Getting our steps in.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Disgusting. Next question.

[Trisha Paytas]

Last question.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, last question.

[Trisha Paytas]

Zipping through.

[Tana Mongeau]

I am, like, about to throw up. I'm dying. Sorry, not Loveline listeners. If I seem a little. I'm, like, dying all of a sudden.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, okay.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, but, like, yeah, whatever. Power through diva. Just a little dying.

[Trisha Paytas]

Just a little dying.

[Tana Mongeau]

Hi.

[C]

I'm currently a senior in college and I'm graduating in May, and I'm taking this one course. I actually really need to graduate, and I'm currently failing it. And I asked my professor if there was any way that I could, like, earn extra credit or anything and maybe take extra quizzes or something along those lines. And he told me that if I had a threesome with him and his wife, I would fully pass the course of flying colors. And I'm not really sure if I should take him up on this offer, but I am failing the course and I do need to graduate next or I will be killed by my parents.

[Trisha Paytas]

So let me know if I should.

[C]

Do it or not. Any kind of hot. That's a plus.

[Tana Mongeau]

Thanks.

[Trisha Paytas]

So many wrong things. Not her, but everything else.

[Tana Mongeau]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Fear of her parents. The teacher's proposition. This is why. And I know it's such a hot take, but, like. And I'm like, I'm terrified of my kids being in school. It's like this. Like, what? What do you mean? There's teachers, and I guess she's an adult. But I was like, what this?

[Tana Mongeau]

I mean, this goes all back to what I always say, that all men should start their way in jail and work their way out. You know, it's just. I really do Mean that. Like, he's awful for that. But this situation is very layered because I was even going to. My first question was going to be, do you think he's hot? Right. I guess I can honestly say me at, like, whatever college age is, like, 20, 21. I would have definitely done it. This is actually like, a corn plot.

[Trisha Paytas]

A corn plot.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, this is like corn. Like. Like. Oh, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Got it.

[Tana Mongeau]

The. The P word. Like, wow. Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

I hate it. I hate everything about. Like, I want to, like, actually find out this person's, like, contact information in the school and his name, and I want to report him. But in theory, it sounds hot. I'm someone who's always thought teachers were hot and, like, wanted to hook up with them at, like, literally the worst. Like, at 12 years old. So it's like, I have the worst, but they're awful because there's teachers who do want to do that and take advantage. And, like, at any age, like, it's crazy, and I hate it.

[Tana Mongeau]

And it's crazy to be like, hey, is there anything I can do for extra credit? And the man is immediately going to a threesome with me.

[Trisha Paytas]

And why.

[Tana Mongeau]

Why wife?

[Trisha Paytas]

And one thing to be like, sleep with me. But now you want to have three reasons why me and my wife?

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, yeah, it's like, what about an extra quiz diva? Like, you know, you could have started somewhere lower. Yeah, it's grimy, and it's. It's. He's, like, not a good person for that. And, like, obviously there's all of that. I. I know myself at 19, 20, 21. I probably would have done it, but only if you feel so comfortable and you want to do that, do that. And, like, even when you think you want to do that, really think about how you'd feel 10 years from now. You know, like, that's a.

[Trisha Paytas]

Or think about if he's doing it to other girls and that don't find him hot or attractive, and they feel like that's their last resort because they don't want their parents to kill them.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. And it's so grimy. And I also feel like. I hope your parents would be understanding that if you literally told them this situation that they would, like, quite literally. Listen, like, I like diva. Honestly, if you need to pass the class that bad, like, you could also report the teacher. You'd probably get a second chance. You know, that's probably.

[Trisha Paytas]

I just think that is like.

[Tana Mongeau]

Or you could blackmail the teacher. Let me stop. But, like, I. I mean, seriously, like, give me an A. Or I'm snitching on you. No, I think you still should snitch.

[Trisha Paytas]

Always hated the storyline. You watch anybody? Bell as a kid? Never.

[Tana Mongeau]

A little bit.

[Trisha Paytas]

The college years. Kelly started dating Professor Lasky, who, yeah, was hot. But that's why you were, like, warped. I'd watch. I'd be like, yeah, that's, like, so hot. That's what, like, people do. But it was, like, her professor.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, even Pretty Little Liars Aria and Ezra. Ezra, like, he was the professor, and then she. That whole storyline. And then he was hot, so it was hot, and it made it okay and whatever. And don't get me wrong, like, even, like. Like that, like. Or corn like that. Sorry. Like, people watch it all the time. Like, it's a hot thing. In theory, yeah. But then you start to think about just, like, the actual grimy logistics of it, and I don't think we should glamorize that, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, it was glamorized to me. And I loved. I, like, had a crush on so many of my teachers and all the ones that, like, hit on me, and I was just, like, so down. But also just, like, what them? Like, it's just.

[Tana Mongeau]

Be careful, diva. I'm almost saying snitch on him and you'll probably get a second chance. Or maybe even throw up their eyes. Better than just, like, Yeah, I would go. Option one, snitch. Option two, blackmail. Option three, do it if you want. That's my final answer.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would eliminate option three. But, yeah, you.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, you're right. You're right.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're my advice.

[Tana Mongeau]

You're actually. You're very right.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's real. You're real.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, I'm done. I'm done. Yep. No, done, Done, Done. Delete. Delete. Command Z. Delete Command Z. Deletes Command Z undoes love.

[Trisha Paytas]

I learned something new. I know Control C is copy. That's all I know.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's. Honestly, that's all you really need.

[Trisha Paytas]

Copy something. Oh, damn. Really?

[Tana Mongeau]

It's Control C on a PC.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that. Whoa. You're techy. Both of you are techy.

[Tana Mongeau]

He's super techy. He's. My Geek Squad just called me a couple minutes ago asking for Geek Squad questions.

[Trisha Paytas]

Techie. And you're also, like, a super sleuth. You're finding out everything about everybody.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. God, it's so nice having you as my best friend. Right?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, he's on it. Yeah. He's so good.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I just love when everyone's here, like, just everyone watching the Vibe.

[Trisha Paytas]

It does Feel like an audience, and I kind of like it.

[Tana Mongeau]

I wish we had an audience.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's like, my dream for all my podcasts. It's like, have an audience.

[Tana Mongeau]

Live studio audience. We could do not Loveline one time with the live studio audience. Imagine how fun.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would love.

[Tana Mongeau]

Because I. That's kind of where this idea came from, was us on stage at Canceled, giving people advice.

[Trisha Paytas]

You were like, a whiz on it. Like, I actually get more nervous, like, when there's a crowd, because I feel like I should be entertaining them at all times.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, you were so good at it.

[Trisha Paytas]

You were so entertaining. And that's why I was like, damn.

[Tana Mongeau]

We need to do this at the live shows. I think for the show's sake, I give much more disingenuous advice.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, I'm just to make it entertaining.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, it's a lot more brothers. A lot more. Like, you're so good.

[Trisha Paytas]

Even your advice was good. Even then on the show, I was just like, wait, but you actually. And I are good with advice.

[Tana Mongeau]

Just I'm more toxic in the live shows. On Not Loveline. I actually am. Like, I hear their voice, and it's a real person, and I want to give, like, real advice. Yeah. And we love you guys for calling in.

[Trisha Paytas]

Please call this number and keep calling.

[Tana Mongeau]

Spicy. Sorry for cutting you off.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, that's what we do.

[Tana Mongeau]

But, like, I just hated that right here.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I think I cut you up 5,000 times.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's true. We're like ADHD queens. Like, whatever. But, yeah, make sure to call into the Patreon, too, and give us your spicy lower because we love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

The number does it up. And then we're gonna go film another bonus Patreon. It gets really wild because it's our fourth. It's like our fifth hour at this point, and so it gets six hour maybe.

[Tana Mongeau]

Delusional. I have a migraine. I feel like I'm gonna throw up. I'm. I have nothing to lose. I'm putting it all out out there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Go see all that.

[Tana Mongeau]

And look at my new bag.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yay. Oh, my God. Manifest your dreams.

[Tana Mongeau]

Manifest. And my dreams were a Chateau Marmont Gucci bag. And it's even better than Trisha paper. Crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

We love it. We love you guys. Never give up.

[Tana Mongeau]

I love this being. Never give up. Never give up.

[Trisha Paytas]

Never, never back down. That's actually so Tea. I've been wanting to sell this bag for so long. So I was like, we never. I love it with all your rings, too.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's kind of fun.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like Mr. T, which is so many rings.

[Tana Mongeau]

Rock actually just broke my finger. God damn.

[Trisha Paytas]

Bye, guys. Love you. Thanks for watching.

[Tana Mongeau]

We forgot to outro. Bye, guys. We love you.

[Trisha Paytas]

We love you. We'll see you in the next one.

[Tana Mongeau]

Bye.