IS LOVE ISLAND ETHICAL? + SOBRIETY OVER DRAMA

Summary

Not Loveline Podcast Summary
Episode: IS LOVE ISLAND ETHICAL? + SOBRIETY OVER DRAMA
Hosts: Tana Mongeau and Trish Paytas
Release Date: July 7, 2025

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1. Introduction to Ethical Concerns Surrounding Love Island

Timestamp: 44:12

Tana and Trish delve into the ethical dimensions of the reality show Love Island. They explore how the show's format, which places young individuals in isolated environments without access to phones or clocks, can impact participants' mental health and behavior.

Trish expresses concern over the production choices, stating, “They put all these people in this house in Fiji, they take away their phones. They have no clocks in the villa. These people don’t know what time it is... They’re losing their mind.”

Tana adds, “It’s funny because I saw Love Island tweeted, ‘Be nice.’ I was like, maybe don’t air all this stuff. If it’s so crazy that people are hating these people, why? What is it about it that you love?”

2. Managing Sobriety and Reducing Consumerism

Timestamp: 02:15

The hosts transition to discussing personal growth, focusing on sobriety and the challenges of combating consumerism. Trish shares her struggle with resisting the urge to overconsume, highlighting her experience with reversal efforts: “I was fighting demons to not order it because I’m trying to reverse my consumerism. I can’t do it though, too.”

Tana echoes similar sentiments, explaining her journey towards mindful consumption: “I used to always wear new underwear every single day and just throw it out. But I did buy way less. It is hard, but I do buy way less.”

3. Reflections on Friendships and Personal Growth

Timestamp: 13:04

A significant portion of the conversation centers around the evolution of friendships and personal relationships. Trish reflects on maintaining long-term friendships, mentioning, “We’ve spent like 15 birthdays together... we love them so much. They do everything to make me feel special.”

Tana adds her perspective on the importance of personal growth and letting go of relationships that no longer serve them: “I think that if just certain things and people or whatever just don’t fit, life forever, like, that’s okay.”

4. Experiences on "Escape the Night" and Celebrity Interactions

Timestamp: 26:08

The hosts recount their experiences working on the YouTube series Escape the Night. They discuss the high production values and the challenges of maintaining professionalism amidst the chaos inherent in reality TV.

Tana shares her apprehensions: “I could never have kept a straight face. I could never have kept a straight face. I was like, God, these people are really into it...”

Trish concurs, adding, “I was on Escape the Night and everyone's looking for a clue... I was like, kill me.”

They also touch upon interactions with celebrities like Oprah and Ellen, contemplating the pressures and public perceptions associated with such high-profile figures.

5. Planning a Drama-Free Reality Show

Timestamp: 12:15

Tana and Trish brainstorm the concept for a new reality show centered around providing relationship advice without the typical drama associated with such formats. Trish suggests, “Have a reality show... a drama-free era, so this is why it’s a good reality show for us.”

Tana emphasizes the importance of maintaining a positive and supportive environment: “We have the friend group to do it. But then where does the fake drama and real drama start and end?”

6. Handling Past Drama and Social Media Perception

Timestamp: 30:06

The conversation shifts to addressing past conflicts and the long-lasting impact of online interactions. Trish expresses remorse over previous discussions that led to misunderstandings and negativity online: “I regret so much that that was talked about in that way... I should have been so much more careful with that.”

Tana shares her own lessons learned about the permanence of online remarks: “Once you say something, it’s out there. So I always say that now that that’s like, my lesson learned too.”

7. Birthday Reflections and Embracing Personal Milestones

Timestamp: 24:19

Trish discusses her recent birthday, marking it as a milestone in her sobriety journey. She reflects on the peace and gratitude she felt, contrasting it with her previous year's challenges: “This is my first sober birthday since I was like 12 or 13. It was just so cool to spend the whole day reflecting on 26.”

Tana complements this reflection by highlighting the importance of being present and thankful: “When you’re just present and you realize, like, even if I didn’t have all that, I still have this. And it’s like a beautiful thing.”

8. Future Plans and Upcoming Projects

Timestamp: 66:10

In the latter part of the episode, Tana and Trish discuss their future endeavors, including the anticipation of additional podcast episodes and potential new projects. They express excitement about collaborating more frequently and expanding their content offerings: “We’re excited to see everything. And I just love this show.”

They also touch upon personal milestones, such as upcoming pregnancies and the joy of preparing for new additions to their families, emphasizing the balance between personal life and professional commitments.

9. Addressing the Impact of AI and Digital Footprints

Timestamp: 16:01

Towards the end, the hosts explore the influence of artificial intelligence on digital content and personal branding. They share concerns about AI mimicking their personas and the environmental impact of AI technologies: “I keep seeing these AI influencers where I almost think they’re like taking homage from you or me.”

Tana reflects on the challenges of maintaining authenticity in a digitally dominated landscape: “It's like, oh my God, this is coming for me. No, they definitely do.”

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Notable Quotes:

• Trish Paytas [02:15]: "I was fighting demons to not order it because I’m trying to reverse my consumerism. I can’t do it though, too."

• Tana Mongeau [13:04]: "We have spent like 15 birthdays together... we love them so much. They do everything to make me feel special."

• Trish Paytas [30:06]: "I regret so much that that was talked about in that way... I should have been so much more careful with that."

• Tana Mongeau [24:19]: "When you’re just present and you realize, like, even if I didn’t have all that, I still have this. And it’s like a beautiful thing."

• Trish Paytas [16:01]: "I keep seeing these AI influencers where I almost think they’re like taking homage from you or me."

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Conclusion

In this episode of Not Loveline, Tana Mongeau and Trish Paytas engage in a heartfelt and introspective conversation, addressing the ethical implications of reality TV, personal growth through sobriety, the evolution of friendships, and the challenges posed by digital identities. Their candid discussions offer listeners a blend of personal anecdotes, reflective insights, and thoughtful critiques of contemporary media phenomena, all delivered with the hosts' characteristic honesty and vulnerability.

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You couldn't look her in the eyes.

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It was something like that, like to not talk to her, speak to her.

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I regret so much that that was talked about in that way because like I, if I see a hate comment about her, it literally like breaks my soul. You know what I mean? Because like I know how much she loves me. I have to, you know, stop doing something that maybe is no longer serving me. Like even just seeing all the mean.

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Stuff they're going through, all the first episodes of Escape the Night because I never sat down and watched one. That show is like diabolical.

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Oh my God, it feels, it's been.

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A month, it's been so long.

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Which like us going a month feels like six months.

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It feels so long because we were seeing each other like sometimes we see each other like two, twice or three times a week doing like nine hour days and then like not seeing each other at all. And then when I saw you, I was like, oh my God, you look like a goddess. You're like a mermaid, like just glowing.

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You look so, you look so hot. And we're weirdly like the same vibe. The dress to the hair to the everything. And I love the pink.

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The dress. Where did you get the dress? Because I was like, that's so fierce.

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I was in London, I was thrifting. I come across this Roberto Cavalli dress. I go, trisha Paytas is gonna love this.

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I tried to get us the skims or Roto Cavalli campaign that just like.

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I knew you were gonna do that.

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But it was, it was literally everything sold out. I got up at 6am when it launched, everything was sold out.

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The only thing I saw was a tiger print one piece bikini.

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And I was like, orders everything, all the dresses, all the bikinis. I was like, and it was your birthday, so I was like, this is it. I'm getting this collection for all of us.

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You are so cute.

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Everything was sold out. Even my size. I'm like a 2x. And I was like, how is that sold out?

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No, but I'm really. Oh, my God. I was like, fighting demons to not order it because I'm trying to reverse my consumerism. I can't do it though, too.

[A]

I'm in my reverse consumerism era for sure. I used to always wear new underwear every single day and just throw it out.

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Justin Bieber does that. Why do I know that?

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Why do I know Justin Bieber? I'm feeling for him right now. I sent him a DM almost every day. I just been, like, thinking of you.

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That's so sweet.

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I love that.

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I love that you're in your case.

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He wants to reach out. But no, I used to throw out my underwear too. And I was just like, you know what, Lizzo? We were talking about that earlier on the podcast. Was telling me about how consumerism is, like, literally destroying our Earth. And I was like, let me. Let me not over consume.

[B]

The Labubu. Just changed my whole brain chemistry.

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You into the boo boos.

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I think they're cute. I have three. However, I didn't. I didn't go out of my way to get them. People were nice enough to get them for me, but I don't know what it was like seeing people, like, fist fight to the tooth and nail in a pop mart over this flippy purse doll, like, made me just be like, where are we at societally? Like, I don't know. And, like, I don't know. I'm just realizing there's, like, more to life. Like, just like, I. I feel like, especially in getting sober, it's like you can really easily, easily fall into patterns of filling the void with something that gives you dopamine. And I love. I love to shop. You know what I mean? It's my favorite thing on planet Earth. Yeah, but, like, Roberto Cavalli thrifted. It wasn't cheap. Like, you know, I'm like, I thrifted it.

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It's like, but you're not, like, adding more.

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I guess that's true.

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Pollution to the air.

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Like, whenever I'm thrifting, like, a nice designer item, I always think, like, ooh, batty down. Like, did a baddie die? You know what I mean?

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Like, maybe they just got fat. Like, I can't wear this dress anymore.

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Yeah, I guess I'm so morbid. Like, why am I thinking bad down, like, but I don't know. Yeah, I'm trying to just like rewire my brain to think consumerism is gross. And it's so hard because I want everything.

[A]

I love buying things too. I may do still buy things, but it is hard. But I do buy way less. Like I really am just.

[B]

I'm really trying even like I want. There's a part of me that's thinking like, oh, what if I lived in Hawaii part time? And of course I would like find this place that's more expensive than la. It's like, then you got to put the labubu down.

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Are you looking at Maui?

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Yeah.

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Yeah, Maui. So like that's like the dream for us too. I was like, I want to just go to Maui and like retire. But it's so expensive.

[B]

Oh my God. Should we like go in on a retirement home together?

[A]

I feel like they don't love when people that are not need to move there. But you're with a native Maui person. So it's not like you're like adding to like people just going to Maui and destroying it. You're like, with.

[B]

I guess that's really. Yeah, I was really trying to like do my research on all of that and just talk to Makoa's family about like, what would be the best decision and like all of those things. But it is so interesting because like, even just what I thought I could afford versus what I can actually afford.

[A]

Like, is it crazy? What like what can. Is it like a condo or like, what kind of house would you like? Because like Oprah lives there, but her house is like $45 million.

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I like have found out all the tea about Oprah. Like everyone knows the tea. She does crazy in Maui. Yeah. Like, she like shut down allegedly. Like, I don't know. I don't. I don't want to.

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Like, there is so much controversy with Oprah for sure. Always with Maui.

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And yeah, she like shuts down roads and like. And it's just like, nope, this is Oprah's road now.

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There was a controversy when the fires were happening. Like how hers was like the only one. I don't know.

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Yeah, a lot of people believe a lot of things.

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It's very interesting that Jeff Bezos wedding. She was like America's sweetheart. And now people are.

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I don't know.

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I don't know anything about this kinda. Oh, everyone was like, is more. Who are the people more against Oprah or Ellen?

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Probably Ellen. Right?

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Really? You think so? Just mean. Right.

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She's we don't see her on tv.

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But do we. Do we cancel someone who's mean or cancel someone who's like, harming the environment?

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Well, I would venture to guess Ellen's probably done some harm to the environment.

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She seems pretty. What is it? What's the opposite of over consuming? She seems like minimalist.

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You know what I mean?

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Her haircut.

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Oprah has a house like literally everywhere. Like that is true.

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Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I really don't know about any of these people. So. No, I'm not the last person to judge anybody on.

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Yeah, it's just Makoa and his friends did a lot of jobs for Oprah's property specifically. So I like know a lot of Laura weirdly. But like, I'm trying to think. I don't. But I guess Ellen also was like spitting on people for looking at her in the eyes. Allegedly. Right? No, that was drama.

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That's crazy. She never spit at me. But she also. You couldn't make eye contact when I met her. When I remember it was like, don't look at her.

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Trisha, you have so much more. Like the fact that you can immediately add to this with like your own personal.

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Not Oprah.

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You couldn't look her in the eyes.

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It was something like that. Like to not talk to her, speak to her. Because what did you go on Ellen for? Fast hockey. So yeah, it was like an audience. Like, oh, let's find someone from the audience with the talent. But like obviously they prepare like people. Yeah, yeah, but that's so cool.

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You should make a book just about like your television show. Experience everything.

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I've been on like background work everywhere.

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Yeah. Kathy Griffin has this book that she wrote where it's like A through Z of celebrity interactions and she does every letter like T. Taylor Swift and like it's a whole chapter about like her interactions. But imagine it was yours and just with television.

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How did you know that? I've never heard of that book ever. How do you know about.

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I don't know why I know that. I love like a comedian written book though.

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That's so about you. I. Yeah, comedians I just like never find funny.

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Never.

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I like don't fight like stand up funny.

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I know. I guess I like started to really like Kathy Griffin too when like she was so polarizing. Like she got put on the no Fly list like for like the.

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It is crazy when you look back at it because it just like wasn't that serious. But I remember the time thinking like, oh my God. It's like as if she actually did something to the president. You know what I mean? And then you look back, you're like, it's kind of unserious when you look at the photo. But I like Kathy just like on social media.

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Yeah.

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I don't know anything like, about her stand up. But I'm like, well, she seems. Yeah, I like, I'm in my older lady era because I'm going to be that soon. So I love to consume like 60 year olds just like living their life in Malibu, being posh. And I'm like, that's gonna be me one day.

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Oh, my God. Tell me other 60 year olds that we love.

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I love Jean Smart. Do you watch the show Hacks? Yes, I love Hacks. Did we talk about this before?

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I don't know if we've ever talked about this. I haven't seen the new season, though.

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Oh, the new season's so good. And she gives me, like so much hope. Even the fictional character of Deborah Vance, I'm like, I want to be her. She's so fabulous. I. I love like Goldie Haunt, like the First Wives Club. Death Becomes Her. Like, that's like my new hyper fixation. Have you seen Death becomes Her?

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No, but is what is Death Becomes Her? Gosh, am I confusing this with another movie?

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It's a movie starring Meryl Streep, Goldie Hawn and Bruce Willis.

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Okay.

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And now it's a Broadway show. It's like, it's all over my TikTok FYP. It's like such a. I saw the Broadway show first.

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I want your fyp.

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Oh, my God, it's so good. And there's like, basically it's two female leads and I'm obsessed with it because I think I'm like, what are we gonna do for Halloween? I was like, I love Death Becomes her, but. Oh, there it is. There's the movie poster right there. You may have seen.

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Oh, I need to get into this.

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Yes. And then so we finally watched the movie like two nights ago. Because I haven't seen the movie. It's very like. I would also consider that movie, like, kind of like a gay icon movie, which is like, weird. Like, I don't know. The gays love Death Becomes her and.

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Yeah, so that's like, oh, we should do it.

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But it's like, not fun unless you have seen it. Because I know people would always dress as this costume. Like, this is like a very popular right now. One of them has their neck, like, spun around because they break their neck down. The stairs. And the other one has, like, a shotgun like that in that picture. There's, like, a shotgun through him right here.

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Oh, that's everything.

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So it's, like, such a cool costume. And I was like, oh, this would be, like, so much fun to do. And I feel like. And they're very, like, the older women. They're like. You know, the whole plot is like, they're. They're, like, aging.

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Yeah.

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And they take this potion to stay young forever, and they live forever. Oh, my God. Stop aging at that. Yes.

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Yeah.

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It really is that. And then their husband that they kind of share back and forth. Like, he kind of goes with one and then the other. And this whole bus. He's a surgeon, so they're trying to keep him alive so they can keep fixing themselves, I think. Who was it? Sabrina Carpenter just did a Death becomes her. Like, homage in. What is that song? And if it's true.

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Oh, my God, I need to.

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Like, when he's kissing you.

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I haven't podcasted in so long.

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That song was so popular. And they did a Death becomes her like her and Jenna Ortega did, like, a death becomes her where they push them down at the funeral. Yeah, we should do that. It's my inspection right now, and we.

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Should start planning our literal Halloween costumes right now.

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Like, we both take literally what I've been doing. I was just like, okay. So I was seeing, like, just Trish, the family one, me and Tan. I'm, like, thinking of all these, like, ideas. I'm like, how many costumes? Because Halloween comes around, you know? I mean, you know, you do them so extra.

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Yes. Like, there is no. Too early to start planning Halloween costumes in advance. I care about it more than, like, all holidays combined.

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Me, too. And Dripdome is moving to New York. I'm like, you have to come back for October. Trisha. Trisha.

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How have you not posted a video, like, sobbing?

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No, I'm sobbing because I'm like, what? What do you mean you're leaving To New York?

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Drip Dome. How could you do this to the queen?

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I said, come for, like, two weeks in October so I can just get all my sets. I was. Yeah, because they've been doing, like, they did Paris Hilton for Easter. They brought her little chicks. No. I feel like Drip Dome's been around for a minute. Holly. Is that, like. I was like, I love it. So I'm like, don't believe now everyone's. All the girlies are using you.

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They're everything and more. They really are. I need their help, honestly. Soon.

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Yeah. Please come back for Halloween. 10 hours.

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We need you. We'll put you on salary, a couple sets. Yeah, Actually, we hate over consumption. But also drip dome, please stay in la.

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So we keep stimulating the economy. I feel like when you, like, you know, employ people and stuff, like, I feel like that's like stimulating the economy.

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That is true. That is true.

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It's not just waste.

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Oh, my God. Speaking of Holly too, like, I know, I. Have we talked about it.

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No. I don't know. Can we talk about it? I'm excited about it. I was excited after.

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I was. Me too. After we took that call.

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Because I waited for you to take the call because I was just like, Tana. I like, in my mind you're still old Hannah. Where I'm just like, she's not gonna do this. You know what I mean? She's gonna, like, push it off, push off. And then when, like, Tana did the call, I was like, oh, let me get on the call. Because I was like, I'm always down, but like, I just didn't know.

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Oh, I was on my zoom, ready to. I'm so excited. Yeah, we got proposed, like the most exciting idea for the three of us. That part ever.

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Well, that's what I was excited about, cuz, you know, we take calls all the time and they're like, oh, can we do a reality show around you? And we're just like, yeah, okay, what is it like? You know, we always have ideas and no one has like a straight. What it is. This is the format that's working. We can sell it this year. So I was like, maybe we should.

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Have a reality show. I know.

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No, but it's a drama free era, so this is why it's a good reality show for us. Because it's not.

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Yes.

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It's hard to explain without saying it.

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I know it is hard to explain, but I agree with you. Like, when people just pitch the baseline reality show, it's like, oh, so I'm gonna contrive a bunch of drama and genuinely make my quality of living go down.

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That's the thing. And you have the friend group to do it. But then where does the fake drama and real drama start and end? I have nobody in my group, so that wouldn't work. So I was just like, it would just be Tanna.

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No, you're winning though. I think Even just like 27 is me realizing, like, I don't know, like, I don't think I'll ever have a very, very tiny circle because I do have a lot of people who have been with me for, like, 10 years that I love. And I know ride or die for me, but it is just interesting watching certain things, like, dwindle. And this is not a subtweet to one specific thing. Jesus.

[A]

Eclipse all over.

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Oh, my God. I'm like. I have to be really careful with my words these days, obviously. But, like, just. It's awful, I know. Especially being me. It's like that I'm the least careful person with my words ever.

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But what's crazy is you can be so careful and people can still twist them. You know what I mean? I know that's true.

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And I'm trying to have peace with perception right now and, like, understand that things I say are going to be misconstrued no matter what. But it also does just, like, sometimes eat you alive. Especially, like, when I'm so honest about how I'm feeling and people just misconstrue it. But I don't know. Whatever. What was I gonna say? No, but I think that, yeah, just as I'm getting older, I could see things getting a little smaller. And I have so much peace in that. I think for so long, I wanted this, like, big, chaotic mess around me at all times. And I'm learning now that if just certain things and people or whatever just don't fit, life forever, like, that's okay. And again, this is not a subtweet to one specific situation.

[A]

I mean, but that is life. I mean, that is just life. Like, people just, like, are here for a minute or a lifetime or whatever. But you. Your core group of friends have been around since you were, like, literally in high school. Like, all the friends you're talking about, like, this weekend, you said you had a. The girl that's like, your sister is having a birthday. Isabel. Yeah. So I was just like. And Amari. And also, I feel like, Ashley, all those people have been, like, your core for.

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Yeah, it was very sweet. Like, on my birthday, just thinking, like, wow, we've spent, like, 15 birthdays together like this or something crazy.

[A]

We talked about that. You're 27.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So 15 birthdays together. That means you know them since you were 12.

[B]

Yeah, like, pretty. Pretty much. I mean, Ashley, maybe I was. I was a little older, but Isabella and Amari, like, yeah, it's been so long, and I love them so much. They do everything to make me feel special.

[A]

To Hawaii. Paige was there because you have, like, similar close birthdays.

[B]

Yeah. Her birthday's the 23rd. Mine's the 24th. So we all. We do Like a little back to back situation.

[A]

I love Paige and her influencer era too. I know. I love it so much.

[B]

And she's so sweet because I think she actually hates Hawaii more than anything in the world.

[A]

Hawaii? Oh my God. I don't know.

[B]

I don't want to actually speak for her, but I do think that Hawaii is very like, it is the opposite of chaos and it's kind of Groundhog Day. Like you kind of do the same thing every day.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, you know what I mean?

[A]

Just like get up and enjoy. Beautiful.

[B]

Yeah. Go to the beach, watch everyone surf, like cook your own food, like, type of thing. And I think if you don't like love and live and laugh for the beach after like 10 days of doing that every day, it's like I have a sunburn and there's sand in my. Like, I wanna, you know, like, I understand that like some people aren't like me where I'm like banging my skull in the sand.

[A]

Were you always a beach girly though?

[B]

Yeah, I've always been a girly. I think it might be like, I don't know, I'm a triple cancer. And like, oh yeah, water even. Like I was. I've been researching like my best manifestation and like, literally it's. It says to like, due to me being a triple cancer, like, just look at water and think like, I feel like Moses.

[A]

Interesting. Really. Like biblical Moses or my Moses.

[B]

You're Moses.

[A]

You part the ocean. You're like, this is it. I can control it.

[B]

I wish I could part it and just like walk home.

[A]

It's so cool. AI now does that like the biblical vlogs, it shows like Moses, like partying the waters. I'm like, that's actually so sick that.

[B]

You can do that. I keep seeing these AI influencers where I almost think they're like taking homage from you or me. And I'm like, oh, I see. And they'll be blonde and they'll be like talking their. They'll be on a podcast. And I'm like, oh my God, this.

[A]

Is coming for me. No, they definitely do. Cuz they've done mukbangers. They. They definitely take influencers and like just mimic it. Like people eating crab legs. I'm like, it looks so real. Like it's actually crazy, but I know it's.

[B]

Do you ever have them make you as a baby on your podcast?

[A]

I've seen it. Someone did it. I've seen it. Because. Is it AI also like taking up so much water? It's like so much Water usage or something to make an AI?

[B]

I think so, yes. But let me actually not go down, because I was about to say, like, I think so does Instagram. So does everything. But then, like, I don't know.

[A]

I don't, like, shut up as much as, like, the computers making AI. I don't know. That's what I heard. I heard it's bad for that reason. I don't know.

[B]

I'm really shut the up on that.

[A]

Wait, let's go back to your birthday. So was it, like, everything? No drama this year? Because you always have a drama on your birthday trip.

[B]

I know. Honestly, it was very, very calm and peaceful this year. Like, almost too calm. Almost too peaceful. There was, like, one funny thing that I'm not allowed to talk about, but I will say that.

[A]

Wait, why? Who does it? What does it involve?

[B]

I literally, I'm. I'm, like, not allowed to talk about it. I. I got the. The gavel down to. It has nothing to do with me, honestly. And it has everything to do with, like, someone else. So I get why I'm not allowed to talk about it. And I think that I learned a really valuable lesson with Ashley. Like, I really regret ever talking about that birthday trip and that drama because I think it was just, like, they.

[A]

Hold on to it forever.

[B]

Yeah. And it was, like, spoken about omitting so many things. And I think that, like, people love to compare her situation to other situations and, like, just. I don't know, even just thinking to this day that there's a world where Ashley's getting hate and, like, I know the real situation and I know her heart, and I know, like, she would never do anything to hurt me purposefully and, like, you know what I mean? Just, like, I regret so much that that was talked about in that way because, like, I. If I see a hate comment about her, it literally, like, breaks my soul. You know what I mean? Because, like, I know how much she loves me, so it's like, I should have been so much more careful with that.

[A]

I feel like that's, like, a good rule in general is, like, whether it's to the Internet or to, like, family or friends, like, the minute you say, like, one bad thing, even if you're, like, venting about, like, your boyfriend or whatever, they hold on to it forever. So, like, yeah, like, there was me most. With the beginning of a relationship, I would just say all this happen, and then people still hang on to that. Like, we'll remember five years ago. I'm okay. We're married with, like, Kids now, it's like, we're obviously past that, but once you say something, it's out there. So I always say that or I think that now that's like, my lesson learned too. It's just like, there's so many things I wish I didn't say about people online because it is just out there forever.

[B]

It really is.

[A]

And you can't take it back, and it is on you. And then you feel guilty and you're just like, yeah.

[B]

And like, if I could go back, I would literally bullet point that situation and say so many other things. You know what I mean? Because it's like. And she just loves me more than life itself. She's the best ever. And, like, even in that. Even in that situation, she loved me more than life itself. And, like, was very, like, sorry. And like, I think there were other people and factors and. But yeah, anyways, I mean, honestly, it was the most peaceful trip.

[A]

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[B]

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[B]

We love you.

[A]

That's good. You got your redemption then you got like a redemption.

[B]

It was so nice. Like, it was just like, wow, like actual birthday.

[A]

What did you do?

[B]

We got on a little boat and we just like all drove around and we snorkeled and like saw turtles and like, everyone was just so sweet and like incredible. Makoa's friends meshed so well with my friends. So it was like all of us together. No, no, no. We've been like, kind of meshing and like, it just like it feels like this big family. And it was like, it was so incredible. I mean, like, and I just, like, I don't know what it is. Like, I don't know if it's like astrologically or something, but like, I. I swear I woke up like, feeling like a different person, like turning 27. Like, I just feel like all of the seeds that I'd been planting at 26 and like, I just so definitively know what I want with my life.

[A]

Amazing.

[B]

Like, it's so interesting and I feel.

[A]

That so young because, like, you're still feel so young, like in your 20s. It's like, that's great. Like, you're gonna have like, oh my God. Because I think 30s is an even better decade. Because like the fact that you're already like so ahead in your 20s, I feel like, oh my God, your 30s are gonna be like insane.

[B]

It took a lot. And I think even 26 was so much learning, you know? And this was my first sober birthday as well. Oh. Since I was like 12 or 13. Like, oh, I feel like you've been.

[A]

Sober for so long.

[B]

I know. I had a little lapse for my birthday.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Last year, like, I was sober all the way up until my birthday and I was like, I'm just gonna drink on my birthday. And then I was like drunk for like three months and I was like, wait, I can't just drink for my birthday.

[A]

So you kind of like learned. You're like, I'm not one of those just casual drinkers. I gotta like, just not do it.

[B]

And I went sober for the final time and I. Last year I was so afraid to have a sober birthday. I was like, I'm not gonna have fun. That's why I broke it.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

And then this year I was like, wow. Like, it was just so cool to spend the whole day kind of reflecting on 26 in the last year of my life and being so aware of the love around me and like all of the little things everyone does to like, make me have a special day. Like, it was just cool.

[A]

I feel like that's like, the secret is when you're like, present and you're just like, damn, I kind of have everything. And all that stuff you just said wasn't about a gift or like drinking. You're like, oh, there's people here for me. And everything that I do have. Like, I feel like when you're like thankful for the things around you, like, life just gets better. Like, yeah. When you're just like, okay, it doesn't even matter. Everything else is fun, like money, all that stuff is like fun. But it's like when you just start realize, like, even if I didn't have all that, I still have this. And it's like a beautiful thing.

[B]

So I'm just so grateful for my life, like debt, just like being like, wow, I built this and I made it out of the trenches. And like, yeah, it's. Yeah. And I think I'm just like beginning in so many ways. I like I was telling you this off camera, but I saw this clip of you even where you were talking about, like, being patient and how much life ended up working out for you. And I like, when I watched it, I really needed to hear it. It's so funny that, like, you're my friend, but also I was like, yes. Trisha Paytas Queen. Like, it's so real. Like, I'm so excited for the future right now.

[A]

I know it's.

[B]

It.

[A]

That's like the best thing too is when you're just like in the present and you're just like, okay, everything that I've come from and like, where I'm at now. Not to say you don't want to still keep going to places, but it's just like when you're so like, content in life and you can just tell you had that one. Tick tock. You were like, thought I needed. I had to Google what, an ssri. I was like, what is that? You're like, thought I needed an ssri. Just needed this. And it was like this, like the most beautiful sunset ever. I was like, I'm like, we need to get to Maui. Once the kids get swim lessons. We're going to Maui for sure. Did you.

[B]

I will go with you.

[A]

Yeah, that'd be fun.

[B]

I would love. I. I'll teach them to swim.

[A]

Did you end up going to that hotel? Maybe you've been there before, but the Adam Sandler one, the.

[B]

The Grand. My land.

[A]

Yeah. Is that where you were this last time?

[B]

The Four Seasons is where he shot. Just go with it, I think. Right? And then the Grand.

[A]

No, Grand Loya is where he did. Just go with it because I love Four Seasons. White Lotus was Four Seasons. Grand will lay it. Because when we went there was under construction. I was like, this is not the Adam Sandler movie. It's more like kid friendly. Like they have like a. Like a lazy river for kids and stuff at the Grand. Will it. Did you go there this time or.

[B]

No, I didn't go there this time, but I've been there a lot. I was actually just recently thinking that I would like, totally get married there. Oh, you got married at the Grand Wailea?

[A]

Yeah. Huh.

[B]

Oh, I knew that.

[A]

That. But we didn't go to the church.

[B]

I'm a copycat.

[A]

We. No, first of all, everyone gets married. That's like the spot to get married in Maui. Oh. But like, oh, Trisha got married here. Now I'm gonna also, like I said, you're with like a Hawaiian. Like, you know what I mean? That would make more church it. The church we. I didn't want to get married in that church because it was, like, raining, and they're like, you're gonna get married in the church? I'm like, no, but I want to get married because they have the outdoor thing that you can see, like, the ocean behind you. And, like, that's where I want to get married. But what if it rains? They make you go in the church. The church is beautiful. But I was like, we're in Hawaii. I want to show, like, beach and the Hawaiian wedding. Like, the guy that does it with a. What is it?

[B]

Conch. Yeah.

[A]

I love that. It was so cool. Then we had, like, this. I don't know, we're not obviously Hawaiian, but I felt just, no, it's the.

[B]

Most magical place on earth and I feel so, like, spiritually tapped in there. It's crazy. Like, I just.

[A]

Interesting.

[B]

Really. Like, even, like, I was sitting on the beach all day and I was. I filmed this YouTube video where I, like, wrote the 27 things that I've learned by 27. And I just filmed it, but I was writing it still. So I was sitting on the beach, like, writing it and just kind of manifesting also other things that I want to be practicing versus learning. Yeah. And then as I'm leaving the beach, I come across this big leaf where somebody else, during the new moon, wrote, like, a new moon ritual. And it was like, no more alcohol. Like, think before you speak. Like, yeah, like, quit your. Quit vape. Like, dial back all these things that I too, was thinking about. And I was like, how crazy that I came across this leaf that, like, someone else wrote. As I was just writing this, like, I just felt like the universe was.

[A]

Like, oh, my God.

[B]

I just, like, chill.

[A]

Like, that's crazy because I saw it. I think I don't know your story or something. And I was just like. Like, that's so weird. Like, that's so weird.

[B]

And I just always have, like, stuff like that happen there where I feel so, like, connected to my life and myself.

[A]

Oh, my God. Yeah. The first thing you said when you came in, you looked so good. I was like, I honestly feel like you should just move there, cuz you look so happy. You look so good. Like, there is something just so different about you. When you walked in, I was like, what happened? And it's not just, like, your hair and tan. It's just like, I don't know. And you even said you're like, I'm getting this out tomorrow. My hair's A mess.

[B]

I was like, no, you're, like, matted your looks.

[A]

Like, I literally look ethereal. I was just like, oh, my God, you look so good. And I saw that too when you were gone and I was like, like, damn. She, like, really, like, found.

[B]

Yeah. I am so happy there. And I do. I had a psychic say that, like, I would find a big chunk of my life in Hawaii and find love there and, like, all these things, you know, which I believe in it. I do. I still love la. I kind of want to be more back and forth. I've realized that. But Hawaii definitely does just make me realize, like, I don't know, the things that don't bring me peace and, like, I don't know, the things that, like, stress me that the out. And like, just. Because when your nervous system is so calm for so long there and then I'm coming home and I'm like. It's just so black and white to me now, like, what brings me joy and brings me calm and, like, what doesn't, you know?

[A]

And I think you said that too. I think on one of your episodes of Canceled, when you talk about ending it, you guys were saying, like, how different you were when you started it, how you just, like, loved to be in the heat of it all and, like, you know, be in the mix and just rile it up. And then you're like, now it's like, just not important.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Or you don't care as much about it, which is true. Like, gossip is such a funny thing because it's like. It is, like, fun. But sometimes it can take, like, a toll a whole. Especially if you're like, in a different era of life, you know, there's definitely eras where I'm like, couldn't care less about anything that happens. You know what I mean? Like, I just want to, like, focus on that. And it's like, smart.

[B]

And I'm just so in my peace era that it's like, Jesus. Like, even we. We talked about it, you know, ending in the fall, and I thought that that would make it better.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I was like, fingers so off the pulse, mind you. Okay.

[A]

And like, I was like, what?

[B]

And then it. The Internet almost just kind of like, reaffirmed to me why I. I have to, like, you know, stop doing something that maybe is no longer serving me. Like, even just seeing all the mean stuff and like, even just her, I hate. Like, I think every time that I sit down and I film another episode with her, I, like, I am then regardless of if I want to or not contributing still in giving these people more things to like hate and pick apart. And I'm just so in a non hateful era of my life.

[A]

I think that would be hard. Yeah. Is like, like seeing the aftermath of it where everyone's just like picking apart everything that you didn't say. It's like, well, they hate each other. They have this and it's like, it's, it's an interesting thing how people. But that, that is the Internet. That's. I always think that too. It's such a double edged sword because it's like so annoying. People need to leave them alone. But then the day is like, I get it. I'm also like signed up for the same thing. It's like they read into everything. Our podcast too. Like, Trisha, like is condescending towards Moses rolls, rides and it's like so frustrating. But at the same time you're like, well, I don't know. They pick up what they want to pick up, you know, but.

[B]

Exactly. I just think that like, like it's good for the both of our mental health to stop that whatever this is like, you know what I mean? That's the thing is it's like, yeah, it's, it's, it's no longer this thing that is like almost good for our mental health and we're having fun and we're. Whatever it is, depleting. I mean, I don't want to speak for her, but I, it's depleting me. At least I, I assume it is also depleting her. It's just. Yeah, it's like I'm just ready for something else. Even when I was filming that video Talking about the 27 things I learned, I was like, like it was just so wholesome and like philosophical and like, I was like, you're reflecting on my life. And I was like, wow, I can't wait to like do more things like this. And just like it's a big thing.

[A]

Reflecting and like taking the time. I think that's like what people don't do enough when they're young. Did you put out the video? Not yet.

[B]

Not yet.

[A]

But I won this. No, this will be out next week.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, maybe if I can get to click clacking and editing fast enough.

[A]

You edit still your own stuff?

[B]

Some things. 50 me 50 j rod. Thank God for that, man. I couldn't live without him. If it's high quality, it's J Rod. If it's toaster quality, it's me.

[A]

So you were on the beach by yourself filming this or someone was filming.

[B]

I was in the house. I, like, rode it all on the beach across. All these days that Nicole was surfing. And I was just, like, watching him surf and, you know, thinking about my life and how the I got here and how grateful I am, and.

[A]

Do you have anything, any. Any on the list that you can think of that you like love?

[B]

Let me think. I think that we talk about this a lot, but this definitely is a great blanket statement for Not Loveline, too. I was just really thinking about how much of my life I felt like love was something that I had to earn. You know what I mean? Or friendship was something that I had to earn. And I think I finally got to this point where I was like, wow. Like, you don't have to earn love, and you don't have to convince people to love you. You don't have to convince people to be your friend and, like, all of those things. Like, I think just growing up in a household where I felt like love was something that I had to earn, and I would hold on to these little bread crumbs, you know what I mean, until the next time I would get it. I carried that. That into my life for so long and into my friendships as well. Like, you know what I mean? And it's just, like, life is not about that. You will find people who love you for exactly who you are.

[A]

That's so interesting. And you, like, discovered that, you think in this last year.

[B]

No, I think I. Looking back on my life, like, even relationships and people I dated and, like, I was doing that for so long, like, you know what I mean? Just, like, almost looking in a room full of people and being like, okay, who isn't gonna love me? I'm gonna convince them. Them to love me. You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah. And. Yeah, and you're like. That's, like, not needed because you always were really good with friendships. You always, like. Like, we talked about all your, like, lifelong friendships since you were, like, a kid.

[B]

Like, you've been blessed.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But there's definitely some things where it's.

[A]

Just like, yeah, you feel.

[B]

I don't know. And, like, not everyone's gonna like you, and that's okay. I think that was a big lesson for me, too. Like, when I was thinking about. Remember that trend where, like, people were saying that you'd sit down with your younger self for coffee?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Like, my biggest takeaway from that is that if right now I sat down with my younger self for coffee, she would be trying so hard to make me like her, you know? And it's like, oh, not everyone's gonna like you.

[A]

What would you tell your younger self besides, like, not everyone's gonna like you? What would you say?

[B]

Give yourself grace? Yeah, obviously just that that was another one where it's just like your 20s is about falling and getting up. And your mistakes are arguably more important than your WINS in your 20s. Like, the things that you learn from them. So it's like.

[A]

That's so true. That part's so true. Yeah.

[B]

The time that you spend beating yourself up and ruminating is quite literally a waste of life. And I did that for so long. And it's like.

[A]

And that's how you, like, learn. I feel like growth really comes from, like, messing up. You know what I mean? Like, people who like, pretty much are perfect or just know what you know, it's like you don't grow as much because it's like. Or you don't see it as much. Maybe some people don't even need it.

[B]

Maybe some people come out of the womb with their right, but I didn't.

[A]

Some people do. I know. Some people really do. I'm like, wow, you really had it together your whole life. It's really amazing.

[B]

Imagine. But yeah, I'm happy. I wouldn't change anything. I feel like I'm at this place where, like, I literally, like, imagine a visual line of me, like, holding hands with all the versions of myself, you know, and it's like I'm so thankful for her and her and her and her for, like, getting.

[A]

Oh, man, it's very Taylor Swift when she's with all her eras.

[B]

Do you know that Mokoa didn't know it was called the ERAS tour until, like, really recently? He thought it was heiress Taylor Swift.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Like, he thought it was the Taylor Swift heiress tour.

[A]

I was like, that's kind of cute. It's sweet.

[B]

But I just aspire to be that chronically offline.

[A]

Oh, what do you mean you thought it was the.

[B]

It wasn't until a fan, like, made me an ERAS shirt and he was like, no way, it's eras.

[A]

I was like, is he just like, not on tick tock scrolling or anything.

[B]

He like, is. But it's like very much like, like sports or like, I'll turn over and he's like, watching a video of like, a whale. You know what I mean? Or like, I love.

[A]

I know. I do want to do a Hawaii trip with you because that's also Moses. He loves to watch a whale on his camera. He loves A whale.

[B]

Trisha, you were the. Like, I was really thinking in my head, like, oh, my God, I wish Trisha was here so bad. And I know that you have babies and, like, you know what I mean? I also know that you're subjecting yourself to, like, the whole shebang that comes with me is a lot. But we have to go to Hawaii together.

[A]

No, that's, like, our favorite place in the whole world. We've been to Hawaii three times together, me and Moses. And we could stay Maui, too. We love Maui.

[B]

We could stay at the Grandma Lea and we could, like, do an Adam Sandler. Like, little did you see, he announced his tour.

[A]

Are you going?

[B]

We have to go Vegas November 1st. Vegas. What?

[A]

Oh, we're going, love.

[B]

We're going.

[A]

Vegas is, like, my favorite place, too. I'm manifesting, like, a residency there because I love Vegas so much.

[B]

You would kill.

[A]

I love it. But I love Adam Sandler. Yes. He's doing, like. Like, stadiums or arenas, I assume.

[B]

I don't know. In my head, it's like, I don't.

[A]

Know which one's bigger. I get it mixed up.

[B]

I want front row, like a.

[A]

Like, this is so cheesy. Well, not really. Does he do, like, mean greet?

[B]

Trisha, it is not cheesy at all. You should have. You should have seen me to make. I was like, find out if there's a meet. And greet. I would do anything.

[A]

I feel like he does. I feel like he would see pictures.

[B]

He doesn't. He does not. If Adam Sandler did meet and greets, I would be so happy because I could just, like, speedway my way and, like, get it over with.

[A]

Meet and greets are my happiest thing in life. Even at 37, I will never get over a mean greet. It's so much fun. So when.

[B]

Imagine we could just pay to hug Adam Sandler.

[A]

I would pay more than even probably Brittany. I did. I think I paid 2,000 to meet Brittany. I would pay 2,000.

[B]

I would give, like, I would give, like, a phalange. Like, I'm not. I wouldn't do, like, my pointer finger. Like, my big toe, but, like, anything else or something. Yeah. Thumbs and pointer fingers. I would keep, like, anything else. I do anything. And I can't decide if I want to dress like, like, business casual and, like, really show him you're like, I'm professional.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, show him, like, I have my together. Or if I want to dress like him and he's like, wow, what an homage.

[A]

Like, I do love a cosplay. Like, when people cosplay as, like, me or something. I do love that cosplaying out of downstairs. Kind of wild because he's, like, so grungy and I think only he could, like, pull it.

[B]

But imagine us in, like, snapbacks. How funny. Not snapbacks, fitteds.

[A]

What's fitted?

[B]

That's what Adam Sandler is. He wears fitted caps. Like, there's no snappy.

[A]

Oh, I never knew the difference. I love that so much.

[B]

I love.

[A]

But I do love a cosplay. I feel like I'd want to, like, basketball shorts. Oh, you want to cosplay him? I felt like, from a character from his movie, like, that's fun. If we were, like, Boucher or something.

[B]

If we were, like, cliche Zohan, why was I gonna say Zofran?

[A]

Like, wait, what is Zofran again?

[B]

Anti nausea.

[A]

You dissolve it under your Marriott, for sure. I love an anti nausea. I never had a zofram.

[B]

It's insane.

[A]

Really? I need to get that. I would love to see Adam Sandler, though. Yes, absolutely. Abigail Moore is coming out, I guess in two weeks.

[B]

I just rewatched Happy Gilmore to get, like, prepared. We need to see that.

[A]

Influencers in that. Why do I feel like there's influencers in this movie?

[B]

Oh, my God. If I see, I'm gonna.

[A]

I think he has a couple influencers. There's definitely, like, Travis Kelce, Bad Bunny, But I swear, there's, like, a couple influencers too.

[B]

Why could I see, like, Ricky Thompson slaying that not.

[A]

You'd be good.

[B]

Like, yeah, like, I'm trying to.

[A]

There's, like, another influencer that's in everything.

[B]

King Batch. White King Batch. Wait, is he.

[A]

What's he in? I've never seen him.

[B]

I don't. I can't name one thing, but I'm always just, like, watching a movie and I'm like, king Batch. Really? King.

[A]

I haven't seen him in so long. That's so crazy.

[B]

He kind of transitioned into, like, acting.

[A]

Jimmy. Like, Thompson. Not Jimmy Thompson.

[B]

Oh, my God. I know you're talking about.

[A]

He was, like, in everything. He was, like, 21 Jump Street. Then he was in Modern Family. He was like, a YouTuber. Jimmy Tetro.

[B]

Yes, yes, yes.

[A]

He's, like, in everything now too. I always see him and I'm like, oh, why do I want to say he was an Adam Stanley movie? I can't remember, but, oh, my God.

[B]

I would just do anything. I literally debated, like, going to New Jersey while he was filming it, and I was like, he's gonna Get a restraining order on me. And I don't even watch. People are saying, like, I just keep getting comments, like, it's my whole tick tock tagged in. Comments that are like, I live in New Jersey and like, I saw Adam Sandler here today. Like, he's been everywhere.

[A]

He's your number one fun to meet.

[B]

Yeah. Just really beyond.

[A]

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[B]

What?

[A]

Does he have a. Does he have a pit?

[B]

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[A]

Oh, we're there. November 1st in Vegas. Love you guys.

[B]

I love you.

[A]

Wait, when did it start? Like, I knew you liked Adam Sandler, but I didn't know you were, like, obsessed. Like this.

[B]

I know. And, like, Jesus Christ. Digital footprint.

[A]

Is it new or always been around?

[B]

I feel like three, four years I've been obsessed with Adam Sandler. I don't know what. I've always liked him.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

And then I think I just have something, you know, like, it's Peppa Pig or it's Adam Sandler. Right now it's Shaboozy. Like, I can't.

[A]

Oh, you're selling the Shaboozy kick. I like that.

[B]

Okay, but, like, I don't. I only know one song, so it's like I have to have something wrong with me.

[A]

I love that. That's very me coded too, where I just, like, know one thing they've done, and I'm, like, obsessed. That's me with Justin Bieber. But I only know, just, like, my only Song. I know, but I love that song, and it makes me obsessed with Justin Bieber. I was like, I feel it so much. But. But I mean, that's. That's logical. Yeah. You know, I'm like. I fear I'm on, like, a WALTON Goggins, Danny McBride obsession right now.

[B]

Walton Goggins.

[A]

I'm feeling like Jeff Wittek, because I was talking about just Trish, and I was like, wait, why do I have heard these names before? And I was just like, I think Jeff. Jeff talked about how much he loved Danny McBride and Wong Gods. They do this, like, these shows together. And I'm like, obsessed. Like, righteous gemstones. They did another one. I want to Principles.

[B]

There's.

[A]

It's. It's so good. Kind of. But, yeah, those are my obsessions right now. But I go in phases, too. I sound like White Lotus. I'm like, I'm obsessed with this person, you know?

[B]

Love island is consumer me. Have you started?

[A]

I know. I don't know if that's for me. Right now. I'm feeling very ugly and fat. I don't think I need to see some hot girls in bikinis.

[B]

Trisha, you are so. Well, I don't want to, like, compare women. I was gonna say, you're literally so hot.

[A]

I was like, put me next to a Love island girl right now.

[B]

No, I would pick you, but that's that. I'm, like, mean for saying that about them, so.

[A]

No, they all be first. I know nothing about it. I just see it on my timeline. It always looks very sexual. And I.

[B]

It's funny because I was getting so many comments saying certain girls on Love island this season, like, need not love line, really should call it.

[A]

I know Huda. That's the only one I'm, like, familiar with. Yeah, I love her now.

[B]

She had the crash out of a century. I think that. I wouldn't say during that that I loved her. I definitely. But I hate adding to a hate train. I think that my takeaway was get her off the show, like, and get her therapy. Psychological warfare, that show.

[A]

And I even saw, like, Love island tweeted, like, be nice. I was like, maybe don't air all this stuff. If it's, like, so crazy that people are hating these people. Why? What is it about it that you love? Because I don't know anything about it. Seen, like, one episode.

[B]

It's just so. So psychologically interesting because they put all these people in this house in Fiji, they take away their phones. They have no clocks in the villa. Okay. These people don't know what time it is. They don't know what time it is.

[A]

They're losing their mind.

[B]

The sun, like, it's hot. They're making them all make out with each other almost on some, like, polyamory. And then, like, people get jealous and people, like, act crazy or people want to be like. Like, booed up and married on day one.

[A]

And, like, you're competing for a prize. Are you trying to win money?

[B]

Yes. Well, I've never really understood that. It's like, what the. The couple who likes each other the most. I think the money's kind of irrelevant to, like, what.

[A]

Because I heard everyone saying now people just get on there for the money and not love. Like, people are just trying to win.

[B]

Money and the fame. I think that after people saw. I think there's only a few people this season who are on it with the right intentions, in my opinion. But then there's also these people because they also don't have their phone, so they're. I think that's what makes it so interesting is they're so unaware of the public perception, they're doubling down on these behaviors. You know what I mean? Which sucks.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like. But it's like, people are just crazy. Like, there are people that are made for reality television on there, you know, like, what is.

[A]

Who does crash out? What? Did she have a crash out?

[B]

She is a mommy.

[A]

Oh, I know that sound. I heard the sound on TikTok.

[B]

She is a mommy. She comes in. She's very interesting about her positioning of that kind of. She ends up meeting this guy Jeremiah. She. She. I think that if she could have had a ring from K Jewelers, she would have gotten down on one knee and proposed to this man day two. Like, she locked him in so hard, and then that's like. But then he was kind of com. Like, complying with it. He was down. But then all of the other islanders were like, you're not doing. The experiment is supposed to be testing your connection and getting with other people. I started to kind of lose. Lose out on her when she. She was kind of calling other women derogatory things and, like, making it more about the girl than the young.

[A]

Yeah, they're all in their 20s.

[B]

Yeah. She can't be.

[A]

Love is blind is like, 30s. But love island sounds younger. Like, they're all. They're 20s something.

[B]

And they're all just, like, certifiably insane in so many ways. And, like, 20. Oh. Oh, she's 24.

[A]

Young.

[B]

Oh, wow. That makes me want to give her so Much more grace than I originally was.

[A]

All these young girls on the show and, like, alcohol and the fame of it all. And then, yeah, I have a strong belief. I feel like if you're a parent, like, you shouldn't be on these shows. Not because of anything. Like, you don't deserve love. I feel like it's just in nature. These shows are exploitative, and you don't really get a say or control over it. And it's just, like, sucks because then people have a. Like, a bad perception of her, which we, like, in real life, she could be totally just, like, saying, I agree. Stable.

[B]

I agree. I do think that is kind of my biggest takeaway is, like, casting directors and the producers of this, they definitely know how to make great television. But, like, that doesn't always go hand in hand with morality. And it's insane. They cast this girl, Vanna, who, like, really filled her face, like, really crazy. Like, a lot of. A lot of Filler. And she's 21, and she's been getting it since she was, like, 14 or 15. People did the deep dive. So then that's bad parenting, and that's bad injectors and horrible people. And I mean, listen, I am, like, I've been there, right? Like, I've filled the. On my face. I didn't love myself, like, in so many ways, obviously, and, like, I still struggle with that. So I'm not talking down, but in my opinion, I was like, why would you cast this girl? Like, you're evil to subject to the hate of so many people.

[A]

Because people are, like, commenting on her face and stuff.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, my God. Brutal. And, like, all these brands and companies were commenting on her face, too. Like, I think Facetune had, like, a little mini scandal because they, like, facetuned her back to normal and posted that on her on their grid, which was like, that's why these shows.

[A]

I know. I don't know if I can get behind them, first of all. Like, it's definitely not my demographic for sure to watch that. But also, it's just like, that. So that would make me so sad. Like, it's just.

[B]

I know it did. And she ended up going home. And I was, like, happy because I was like, oh, my God, no one deserves.

[A]

She took herself home.

[B]

No, but, like, I. I just. For the greater good, they vote people out. If people. Couples don't last. America can also vote for people to, like, do things and be a couple. And it's a mess. Like, it really. I get why you. There was a point where I Was like, this is a chore. Like, I'm in beautiful Hawaii, and every day I have to watch it comes out every day.

[A]

Oh, yeah. I can't keep up with that either. That's way too much. It's our animatics that host it.

[B]

Yeah. She's so good, though.

[A]

She looks great. I always see, like, pictures of her mic. She looks amazing.

[B]

And I forgot that. That in that scandal with Tom Sandoval where he said that she had her shirt on. Like, I hope he is eating those.

[A]

Words that she hopes that. What was the scandal?

[B]

Remember? Like, I guess they. Am I wrong? He, like, Tom Sandoval dated Ariana Maddox, and then they came on one of those recaps with Andy Cohen, and they slept together, and he was hating on her for having her shirt on while they slept together. Right. And then she released, like, merch, I think that said that or whatever. And it's like, it's. She's so.

[A]

Wait, why was he upset?

[B]

He was saying, like, oh, it was so hot. You had your shirt on, like, being condescending.

[A]

Ew. And now he's getting redemption arc. I don't know anything about him, but.

[B]

Like, I'm not here for it.

[A]

I'm here for a redemption arc. But, like, did he ever, like, apologize? Was ever like, oh, yeah, I actually don't know.

[B]

Yeah. Me saying I'm not here for it. I don't know.

[A]

I know what you mean. No, I'm definitely team Arian. I don't even know her, but I'm like, him for it.

[B]

But he's everything. Like, even when the guys are being in Love island, she'll stand there in her, like, retrofect gown and, like, I love it. Condemn them. Like, I'm obsessed.

[A]

That's, like, your perfect job. I feel like hosting a show like that. That's, like, so good for you. I feel.

[B]

I feel like we would slay that, you and I. I feel like you.

[A]

Are so good at that because you're still, like, young enough to be with, like, the kids.

[B]

Here you go.

[A]

If I'm on Love island at, like.

[B]

40, you would be, like, so iconic. The way Megan thee stallion, came in. Like, I could see you doing that.

[A]

Being like, yeah, I'll hype you up. I'll just come in for you. I'll be the Meg the Stallion tier.

[B]

She slayed that. Oh, my God.

[A]

She come in just for one episode.

[B]

Yes. And she, like, told everyone to be nice to each other and, like, made them try work.

[A]

Oh, I love that. That'd be everything.

[B]

Yeah. It was good. It was really good. What else is happening? I want to talk about you. I want to talk about Megan the Doll.

[A]

She's getting a lot of publicity at Megan the Doll. She's everywhere. Yeah. When I thought that's the first thing, somebody came in. I'm like, I want to know about me and the doll. I'm like, I don't know if anyone, like.

[B]

Did she talk when you weren't interviewing her?

[A]

No, no, she was. She did talk. Yes. It was Ellen. It was. Do not talk to her in between shots. No eye contact?

[B]

No. Was it scary? A little, Yes.

[A]

I was scared because I, like, don't love horror movies, so I definitely was scared. I definitely, like, didn't want to do it at first.

[B]

And then I screamed at my phone. Like, I don't know why. It's just so camp and iconic to me.

[A]

She was iconic. Honestly, like, after talking to her, I guess people were saying that she was really nice to me.

[B]

She was really nice.

[A]

A little bit of a even sassy person. Other people.

[B]

She, like, liked your song. And like, she was like, yeah, like, that was so.

[A]

Yeah, I was like, okay. Iconic too. Just like going so deep in the discography. I like, loved her and everyone was interviewing her. Like, all these people, like, journalists were interviewing her and everything. So I was. It was decided. I'm in my. What are those called? Junkie eras. I might do another junket. Those were fun because you only get like seven minutes, so it's like, not a lot of pressure. Yeah, it's very chicken shop day. Did you know chicken shop day is only like eight minutes long? Do you know chicken shop?

[B]

Yes, of course.

[A]

Why do you think? It was like a big podcast, but it's like literally there for like, that's a seven minute episode.

[B]

I just watched Addison Rae on it and she slayed.

[A]

I love that she's everywhere now. She's playing Wembley Stadium, I think next.

[B]

Week, and she's opening for Lana Del Rey and I.

[A]

Crazy.

[B]

She's doing this whole tour with. With no makeup. Like, she's so. For the girls and the gays.

[A]

I see her on tour, it's for sure. I think it's a lot, actually, so maybe I won't.

[B]

We'll find a way.

[A]

It's sold out so quick. She had. She's like playing like 2,000 caps, but, like, there's a hundred thousand people in line for her New York show. Yeah, it was crazy. And I was like, booker, Madison Square Garden. Like, what do you mean she's playing 2000 so hot. Like, yeah, she's.

[B]

I think that's cool though, that she's like, easing into it because people are so mean to imagine she went straight to Madison, like, square and then everyone, though. Yeah, that's true.

[A]

If you're first, you're out, you're at Madison Square Garden.

[B]

Yes. Like, she's that.

[A]

No, I'm obsessed. I love her. She's very sweet, too. I had apologized to her a couple years ago for being me, and she was so sweet.

[B]

I love you.

[A]

It's fine. She was like, really, really sweet. These young girls are just, like, really nice. And I'm like, God, I really should have been nicer. My. That's my regret. My 20s is. I should have been nicer.

[B]

It happens, though. Same. I look back at so many things and it's like, oh, my God, tan of. Just put a muzzle on it.

[A]

Do you think you were, like, hateful in your 20s or just more sassy? Like, you're just like, that was. Your brand is being outspoken.

[B]

I think that even if what I was saying wasn't directly hateful, I wish that I would have been more aware of the power of my platform. I think I loved coming on and just like exposing someone and going in and like, willy nilly ing. Like, even just on canceled and like, whatever.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Looking back, there's a lot of things where it's like, even if you feel this way and even if it is completely valid, you should be more aware of what your platform can do to someone and maybe they don't deserve that.

[A]

What about, like, not on YouTube? Like, were you behind the scenes? Like, were you ever catty to, like, just not behind the scenes, but even just like real life. Like, you're. Are you catty? Like, I would. I would consider myself. I was very hateful. Even not online, I would actually say maybe I was a little more hateful not online. You know what I mean?

[B]

It's so funny because I can't imagine you being that.

[A]

I was like, really insecure but also really jealous of, like, everybody. Like, I was so jealous of everybody. So I think I was like, really.

[B]

Like, recognition of that is so, like. I think some people will go their whole lives without saying that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

When like, you. Sometimes you need to accept that and have that ego death and like, like, that's so. That's such a, like, profound message to put out there. Yeah.

[A]

I kind of say it more for people who do get hate that it's like if someone's like, hating on you even in real life, like, that person because it's like so annoying for people. Like, oh, they're just jealous of you. But like, that's usually it. Because, yes, I was insecure, but I think I hated and made fun other people because I was jealous. Because, like, you don't do it over someone. That's like a life you don't want. You know what I mean? You usually just like, look at someone else. I usually say that just to tell people because I was that person. I was like, oh, I know the hate. I know what it is. And it's just. Yeah, there.

[B]

But that's so profound to say. Like, that really is.

[A]

But you don't think, you think maybe more. Yours was just like story time, the drama of it all. It wasn't like behind, like in real life, you're like, just.

[B]

No, because I think like I was saying I really wanted people to like me. Like, even I look back at like, even like. But I can think of like some influencers who were like, so rude to me on the set of that back in the day when I was young. And like, I would be so nice back because I wanted them to like me. And like, looking back, like now, if anything, I think I would be more of a quote unquote. I don't think I stood up for myself enough, honestly.

[A]

I see what you're saying. Yeah, we. That is interesting. You've always. Yes, you always have been super nice. That's like one thing I remember about you. I can think of like three times we met before, like actually becoming like this. Maybe we met like three or four times, but I remember each time so specifically and you being so nice. Like, maybe it was like after the streamies or something and you were like in the bathroom and we like crossed paths and you were like, so nice. And then obviously at David's house, you were like always so nice.

[B]

And those eras, it's like, oh my God, Tana. Just like you were so nice for.

[A]

Being like a 19 year old and just like going through so much. I just remember being you were like so nice. And I always felt so bad for like secretly hating you because, like, I was jealous because like, you were like Shane's new best friend and you now you're David's new friend and it's so.

[B]

But it's so wild because even looking back at the those like quote unquote friendships, it's like I would let people talk to me crazy. Like, I think I have just changed so much as a person, you know.

[A]

I think that's very normal for girls, especially like, guys, I don't think there's, like, anything wrong with. I think in, like, early 20s, you really. There's some girls that just. I love the whole decentering men now, because that's, like, one message I would love to give, like, my daughters, because I would, like, save so much energy and time didn't center men. But I think also, too, when you're, like, in a relationship, it's like, well, obviously, like, you marry someone and then you're just like, oh, I, like, don't need any man's attention, you know, so.

[B]

That is true. That is true. Like, now it's so easy for me to say decenter men because I, like, have a man.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

You know, it's. It's hard out there when you're single to, like, actively go through life and not center, you know? It is hard.

[A]

Oh, my God. We were just. Our Patreon on Just Trish. We were. We just watched the first Escape The Night Season 3, the first episode. We're going through all the first episodes of Escape the Night because I never sat down and watched one. That show is, like, diabolical. That show is actually. First of all, the production is great. Like, we do love a budget. Like, they have budget for sure. But I could never have done it. I could never have kept a straight face. I don't know how you guys were all actors on that show. There's just no way I could have literally done it.

[B]

And, like, to be honest, I think that I probably was difficult in that sense because I would, like, crack up laughing and, like. And they didn't want that, you know, like, that was getting cut because.

[A]

Okay, so they were like, you have.

[B]

To be serious, in my opinion. I don't know.

[A]

I need to. So we did the season three because that was, like, Oscar's favorite. So we watched the first episode of that. I'm like, now we need to go back. I don't know. Oh, no. Okay. We have Matpat. We just watched it. Who else? Tila. I think Tila Dunn might have been on it. Who? Oh, my God. Manny. And of course, Manny.

[B]

Nikita, Sophia, Rosanna.

[A]

Oh, Rosanna. Oh, geez. I know all these people. I don't know why I was forgetting. Oh, she get much screen time. Colleen on that show. Like, I, like, I really don't even remember her on there. No shade.

[B]

It is so J.C. kaylin.

[A]

He didn't get any screen time.

[B]

That is just so funny. It's so funny. Like, the eras of just, like, this. Even that just, like, turning 27. Just reflecting on all of the eras of my life.

[A]

How old were you when you just hit the next night?

[B]

The first one I was 18. And then the next one I was like, maybe I was like 19. I don't know. I was young.

[A]

I can't wait to see you on it. Because everyone in our patreon was just like, you have to watch Tana's. It's season two, right? The what? The first season.

[B]

Yeah. I'm interested now to see, like, how I'll be.

[A]

You wear the pink cowgirl outfit. Oh.

[B]

Oh, I was. I was talking about like, this new. This most recent one. I just said I'm interested to see.

[A]

How it's coming out. It is.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

Why has it been so. I'm like, if I was Joey, I would have got on that so quick with all the, like, controversy around it. Yeah. Like, where is it? We need to see that.

[B]

Oh, my God. I need to add Escape the Night to my list. Like, Pete Davidson, Escape the Night. Like, things I need to just never, like, you've done enough.

[A]

I want to see. Because honestly, the production was good.

[B]

We.

[A]

I will say this, like, and this is like, no shade at all. Like, I thought the production was so good. And it's high budget, right. It's YouTube, so they obviously have like a big crew involved. But even in season three, episode one, that's the only one I've seen. Like, the. The scare actors, they do grab people. And I was like, I would be be very jarred and like, offended and scared if someone grabbed me. Like, I get it's like part of the thing, but because it's not fully scripted, so you don't know exactly what's happening, they're like, kind of genuinely scared.

[B]

I. But I will say though, on the other ones, like, they were so budge. Like, I'd be sitting in my, like, YouTube trailer with like, Wi fi and a couch. And like, they were so. You know what I mean, that even, like the actors and stuff, like, you know, they were from like. Like, you know what I mean? Like, there was a sense of more peace with like, the budgeness.

[A]

Well, that's what I was getting at is like, okay, this is a big production. So obviously they're going to have like, it's more professional. Whatever. Think about it now. You take away the budget and it's like, obviously you're just going to get like, it's just. You're just cutting down all expenses, meaning, like supervisors, production crew, the acting. And even. Even if you have the budge Actors, at the end of the day, you really don't know. You know it is scary. And it's like it's not. Not because it's reality TV and it's not like a movie. It's like it is anyway, so I could, I could see why you would have been scared not to bring the whole thing up again, but I was just like, I would have been scared in this budget, much less a low budget one. I'd be like, hell no.

[B]

No, it's. I stand on everything I said. I really do. My phone was on sos I was underground. And yeah, there wasn't like, you know, people I could like call to. To other than Joey who I had like of my. Yeah, I stand on it.

[A]

Oh my God. It's crazy because also too if someone been like Moses can't come. I'd be like, oh hell no. Like I'm not going anywhere with anything. Yeah, you just don't know. And I suppose especially I'm such a scaredy cat because when I was watching Escape the Night, the, the one we were watching, I was like, I don't think I could actually do this. I think I'd like actually have a heart attack because I'm like so scared. You know, I hate jump scares. I hate all that stuff. And I get that they're actors, but that was scary. I was like. And it was at night time. I was like just bad at that.

[B]

Like if some, let's say something like that really happened to me, I'd be like, okay, me first. Take me out. I'm not looking for a clue. Yeah, this is it. Life's over that part too.

[A]

Everyone's doing like escape rooms in these. And I was like, I can't do any of this. How do they know? Like, oh, it's there, behind the clown. I was like, that's like so weird.

[B]

I remember one time we were shooting Escape the Night and everyone's looking for a clue and I find a blue post it note. And I'm like, I found the clue. I come back to everyone, I'm like, I found this clue. And everyone's like, you are a.

[A]

Was it nothing?

[B]

That was just like a part of the set production. I was like, kill me.

[A]

Oh yeah, kill me off.

[B]

I did my best.

[A]

And you guys vote for each other cuz we haven't made it past the first episode. Are they voting who gets killed?

[B]

I don't remember her.

[A]

You don't remember any of the seasons. How you.

[B]

I don't remember. I remember one year, Andrea Russet Killed me.

[A]

Me.

[B]

Oh, right, right.

[A]

I'd be the first.

[B]

But I also think that Joey, like, it's production, you know what I mean? Like, I don't necessarily know if it was, like, free will or like, a free choice. Like, I think I remember one year I had, like, a heart out, so I had to die.

[A]

Oh, love that. I think that was Shane in season one. I think he had to be out the first episode.

[B]

Yeah, he ate with that one little thing.

[A]

He's like, I'm gonna be there for one episode and that's it. And it was great. I liked it. It was cute. It was camp. I. It's so funny that I could never have kept a straight face. I'm like, God, these people are really into it. They're like, oh, my God, where's the town? And I was like, wait, this is crazy. Yeah, it's bottom.

[B]

I was transported definitely into another world, like, doing all that, but I wouldn't change it. I really wouldn't even, like, it's cute.

[A]

It was.

[B]

I think it either was my first or one of my first, like, ever billboards on Sunset Boulevard. Like, and I just like, there's so many cool things came of that that I'm like, so grateful. I think I learned a lot about. Cuz that was also one of the first big projects I did with, like, a bunch of big influencers. And it's kind of like being thrown into the water and being told to swim and learning how this world in la, especially at that time, could be. Like, it's not as nice as it.

[A]

Seemed, you know, 18 and you're on. Yeah, that's like. That is wild.

[B]

I mean, you're the underdog. Like, all these people have been doing it for so long.

[A]

So funny you think you were, because I really thought you were like, the breakout so quickly. As soon as you came to la, like, everyone was talking about you, like, you're with every influencer like that. Guess that's where, like, my jealousy came in because I was just like, damn, I've been doing this for, like, I, like, I don't know, a few years at that point. And I was just like, damn, how did she just come in and everybody wants to collab with her, you know.

[B]

Funny because it's like, I never felt that way. You know what I mean?

[A]

Well, you were. You were definitely. I still think you are, but I think you were definitely back then, like, everybody wanted.

[B]

It also was just like a different generation, though. Like, all of these people were, like, esteemed in this industry and brand Safe. And I think that even just that, like, other influencers were able to kind of, like, make jokes or look down on me because I was like this wild child. And the new generation, like, their fans didn't like me. You know what I mean? Like, like, I had this new. You know what I mean?

[A]

Just like the original, like, tar yummy. You're kind of like, tar yummy when she. You know what I mean? I love her too. Love her so much. But she gets, like, weird hate for kind of, like, no reason. She's also very popular with, like, you know, she literally wouldn't hurt a fly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's interesting. So I kind of get the same vibes. I do love her, and that's why.

[B]

I just feel for all these, like, even, like, the. The bops. Like, I'm like. You know what I mean? Like, just like Camilla, I'm always like, don't let the hate get to you.

[A]

Don't let this. She's making what she says she's making, like, 3 million a month. Month. I was like, hey, where? I would never care if I was making 3 million a month. Would not care about anything, really. I know. I think I saw a clip of you talking about how she wants to do, like, brand deals and LF. And I was like, I think if you're making 3 million a month, I don't think you need the brand deals.

[B]

I know. I think she wants to change the mold. You know what I mean? Like, show, like, I can do this and this and I'm multifaceted. And like, she does. Yeah. My hat goes off to her. Like, we.

[A]

The world has been trying, and if there's one thing I know is the world, but maybe it'll change and hopefully does not like an of girl, because that's me. I could. I just did it for, like, six months. And it's just like, literally, it's different now. I think also, like, I'm just, like, older and whatever. But it does hang on to you.

[B]

You're interviewing Megan the Doll, having Lizzo on. You're in your brand safe era. You are an inspiration to a girl like me. I just tried to get someone on my podcast and, like, their PR agency said that they weren't brand safe enough for the, like, that we weren't brand safe enough. And I was like, oh, my God. I have. I've worked so long. Have to jump off a cliff.

[A]

I think it'll, like, take it just, like, takes time. And I also, like I said, I really do think age plays into it when you're like, old, it's kind of like such a thing of the past. Right.

[B]

But you love talking about yourself like you're 85.

[A]

I am an influencer world. I think about that, like, what influencer, like, female is like, still, like, doing it, like, almost 40. Like I'm three years away from 40 is not like, insane. I started when I was 18.

[B]

You're just a generational icon.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

I mean, thank you.

[A]

But also, like, Like, I don't know. I just tell people, like, wait till you're 40. People were for like, you know, and.

[B]

Like your discography, like, you have just provided so much for the people that is forever iconic. I mean, it's not even just the music. I literally mean, like the discography of your career. All of the things that you've done and said and cosplayed as and just. Oh, my God.

[A]

I mean, I appreciate it, but it's definitely not like, you know, I'm not Scarlett Johansson over here behind me and all these things.

[B]

It's. Yeah, it's just Trisha and Tana gassing each other up, sucking the fart out of other. Each other.

[A]

We haven't seen each other in so long. So that's why I was just, like, excited to, like, catch up.

[B]

So excited.

[A]

See everything. And I just love this show.

[B]

I love, like, yeah, it's great.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

I just have so much fun over here.

[A]

Do we catch up a call? I feel like no one's. Is anyone watching to this end that they're going to hear the call. I feel like next time, is anybody still with us?

[B]

I feel like, hey, is anybody still deal with. I think the girls check the descriptions because Jimmy puts like, call one, call two, call hill.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[B]

Jimmy, we love you. That's so pretty.

[A]

Jimmy is.

[B]

We just. We. We honestly want to know. Can I. Can I call to action to the audience? Like, how do you guys call to action? How do you guys feel about our. Just because we really genuinely were so passionate about just our. Just yap. Like just, Just. Yeah, just Trish. You know, like, because we miss each other and we have it and maybe like the apple dye pile back once you pop out this baby and I pop out this Australia and we get back to seeing each other more often, you know?

[A]

Yeah. When we see each other like every other week, which is like the ideal filming is like, you know, a couple times every other week, then it's like, not as bad. But we really haven't seen each other so long. I feel like, there's still so much that happens. I have like, so many questions because I was like, same, you know, I.

[B]

Need to hear about Lizzo.

[A]

I don't even think I've seen you since you've been back from Europe.

[B]

No, you have.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I think before. Yeah. Yeah. So much is happening though, in our lives right now. And I think that, yeah, the later, the latter half of this year, we'll be able to film more and there'll be less like full yap episodes, but like just yap versus calls. I know we're always having that discussion, but let us know if you prefer a little yap and then calls or yap call, call. Yap call, call.

[A]

Okay, I see what you're saying. Yeah, the calls bring us to yap sometimes.

[B]

Yeah. We just, we can't help it. We're just girls who yap. You guys. Guys, like, you know what I mean? We see each other and we just.

[A]

That's such a good name for a show too.

[B]

Girls who.

[A]

Yeah, I wonder what our show is coming out. Like, when are we filming that?

[B]

I. Oh my God, I'm like so ready. It's crazy. I would start like immediately.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Cuz I was like, like, I want to dedicate my life to it. And just having Holly is really cool because she is. Had so many television shows. She's so like, valued in that world and can kind of show us the ropes. And she's so professional and sweet. Even, like, I got on a zoom call with, with her and I had like just gotten out of the ocean. My hair's matted and I'm like, hey, guys. Really excited. And Holly's sitting there like, hi, Disney Princess.

[A]

Princess.

[B]

She's perfect.

[A]

Starbucks beautiful light, natural light on her. Her makeup always done.

[B]

She was on this tangent about how she wants to sell one of her houses but won't because the lighting is so good. I was allowed to be Holly Madison.

[A]

I know, I know. She really is iconic in every way. I love her so much and I.

[B]

Think the three of us, like, it's just. It's like my favorite trio. It's going to be so fun.

[A]

What's your goal for this year besides the TV show? And is there like a big thing that you were like, manifesting?

[B]

It's. I literally. I sound like a dead horse. I'm really excited about our project. I mean, that sound like a dead horse. I said I'm about to say the book once again, but, like, I know it's not coming out this year, but I'm sending it to someone for the first time in the next few weeks.

[A]

Wait, it's done?

[B]

The book? No, no, no, no, no. I'm sending like, what? I have like a proposal.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yes. And. And like, it's so funny cause I've been so gung ho. I'm like, yes, book it, tell everything, whatever. And now I have to send it to one single person and I'm like shaking in the corner. Like it's. Oh my God, it's really nerve wracking. But that I think that I can't wait to just dedicate my life to that. Like, and not be balancing as much. Like, I'm so excited doing less almost.

[A]

You want to do like a little, like, less, like not spread yourself out too thin.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

That's a big thing.

[B]

I'm very excited to see what both Brooke and I do. Like, I am very, very excited to see us both in an E where we are experiencing peace and happiness. And what else?

[A]

There's strength in ending a podcast amicably.

[B]

I agree.

[A]

Couldn't be me. I have no idea what that even is.

[B]

And they don't want us to. You know what I mean? Like, truly, like, people do not want us to. And I think that that's where I'm at, where it's almost like I want to prove a point.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what I mean? Then it's like, because I truly, I genuinely believe, believe that if canceled was not a factor, that her and I would be able to go get lunch and Kiki and celebrate our differences and giggle. Like, I think that it is this hammer of pressure and millions of people and opinions and all of this creative and just trying to be happy through these times where some of these things aren't making us happy. You know what I mean? That is what makes it so hard. And it's like.

[A]

On a high note too. Like, I was looking at your guys's views. I was like, oh, God, my. My God, we're getting like hella views. Like anyone else would be like, oh, like, why would you quit this? So, like, the fact that you're prioritizing both of you guys to be like, we just need. Like, I. Just a minute.

[B]

I care about my mental health and I care about her mental health, like, so much.

[A]

Good thing.

[B]

And like, I think this tour Australia is like, even if we're able to look at it as like this beautiful ending of a chapter, have J Rod come film it, like, really maybe showcase our journey. Like, I'm so excited to do that that I just like, yeah, like, I don't want to be going into it feeling like, holy. I don't want to do this because there was a point in my life where like dreading we loved it more than anything in the world. And I want to be able to like, hold on to that and be like, what? I wouldn't change it for the world. What a beautiful thing.

[A]

Four years is amazing. Oh my God. For anything. A show, a podcast, like, that's like so long and not just like a four year season of a sitcom. It's like every week for four years is like insane.

[B]

We had our little break in there, but still it has consumed my life for so long and I'm just, even just being in Hawaii, I was like, damn, I'm excited for a time where I can maybe just like prop up a random camera and like have on Makoa's uncle. That's funny. If I wanted to, you know what I mean? Like, just get to like quite literally do whatever, whatever and just Maui podcast. Not let people down and like. Yeah. Just be able to be there and like.

[A]

Yeah, I love it for, you know, I love it for you and I think it's like a really beautiful thing and I can't wait to see.

[B]

And I hate that people make it this whole thing about putting women against each other because it's so much more than that, you know, it's just like, Jesus Christ. I think. And then like, even I saw a clip where we were talking about it, not wanting to, and all the comments are like, oh my God. You have to film for one hour a week and like, your job is so hard and your life is so hard like yada. And I was like, oh my.

[A]

Yeah, it's hard to convey.

[B]

Yeah, it is. Because it's like, no, I. We sit and film for 12 hours and I still leave and I'm like, that was the best day ever. Like the same like, you know what I mean? Like, it's not the, it's. It's the perception, it's the weight, it's the emotional weight, you know?

[A]

Oh my God. Yeah, I think that's the thing with social media is just like a lot for.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But not like complaining. It's just like, it's just a lot for people to be on.

[B]

Yeah. And I think that I'm so out of the world where like, if all my comments are like, address this and like having. I don't want to be that anymore. Like, you know what I mean? Just like the energy it takes takes.

[A]

To respond to comments or about anything. You, you did so well this year in general, like, you really, like, let a lot of things go. Like when people talk about you or bring you up, I'm just like, damn, you're really good at just moving it. Even though you have a podcast that talks about drama.

[B]

Yeah. And that's what, that's why just it's misaligning. You know what I mean? Because it's like I don't want to respond to anything that I don't have to any longer. You know what I mean? Because I'm just like, I'm protecting my peace. Yeah.

[A]

So I think Wendy Williams has a quote where she's like, I'd ask you all to respect my privacy. She goes, but I wouldn't. So yeah, it's like she was, she was her hot topic. Her husband was like, literally like having an affair. Did he have a baby? I think with someone else? Like, oh yeah. He was like having an affair with this woman. Like had a house with her, I think. Had a baby with her.

[B]

That's such a funny. Like, I've never thought about it that way. Like we've turned into our own hot topic.

[A]

Yeah. And Wendy would like never talk about it and people were like speculating all this stuff and she would never talk about her own, even though she's talking about everyone else being.

[B]

And I think there is like power in privacy as well. Like, I'm just saying, I'm. Yeah, it's tough.

[A]

It's so tough. Cuz like, I love the idea that, that too of just like never talking about your relationship. Keeps up to yourself. But like, couldn't. Could never be me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't know. I love.

[B]

I don't know if it could ever be me either. I don't know.

[A]

No, but you're. You are so good. You really don't. Like, I don't know how to explain it. Like, you don't over share anything.

[B]

And that's like, that's what I'm trying to change. Truly. Cuz I think that for so long I felt like when you like become famous for a certain sector of your personality, I think it's very easy to form your identity in only that sector and form your worth in only that sector. And tell yourself that if I am not this sector of my personality, no one will be interested in me. And I'm so grateful to have fans who have shown me through and through that that is not true. And I think I'm fine. Finally, in an era where I believe that. I believe that, like, I can talk about what's meant for me and the people that will stick will be there and I don't have to be this Tana or this party girl or this problem child or this thing. You know what I mean?

[A]

Well that's what's cool about your vlogs. Like I always get your main channel and it's like it's been a lot of you in like Makoa, like in Paris and then in Italy or where was the boat thing? Was that Italy?

[B]

Amsterdam.

[A]

Amsterdam. So it looks like Italy. I don't know. I did not know my Europe locations at all. And it's like cool because it's, it's like yeah, it's not your story times. It's not you like you know, drama and people like you still get again a lot of views. Like people your fan base has always been like that. They. I always kind of just go wherever you're at. What do you think?

[B]

I appreciate them so much. It like keep literally keeps me alive. Like I can't thank them enough for.

[A]

Any other creator who like can change their content like that. And people just like follow. Cuz I don't think anyone.

[B]

I'm so grateful to them. It is so to them. I like had this moment in the shower the other day where I was like. And I'm sure you can agree with this but like how cool is it that like sometimes we may not fully feel like this but for the most, most part like we can do whatever the we want.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like what, what a blessing that is. Like that is not normal. That is not. That is such a blessing and it's given to us by these people who know us and truly love us. And it's like how nuts. Yeah.

[A]

Cuz like this we can just start.

[B]

A show called not Loveline and answer calls and literally no listen.

[A]

Everyone's like what does this mean? I'm the only one from like literally the 90s. It was before me. I'm like, it's this, this and this.

[B]

But like how cool that like people will still like I just, I'm so grateful to our fans and yeah like.

[A]

A job that relies on. On other people, like liking you is very scary because it can go up and down and you see people. Vidcon just had like a hall of fame. Did you see that they like inducted original YouTubers into their hall of fame.

[B]

Who did?

[A]

Vidcon.

[B]

No See it.

[A]

I love, I love when you're just like offline.

[B]

Hell no. I've been so offline and even like yesterday for the first time I like really got online and like saw all the things and I like scream sobbed and was like what do you mean I have to go talk about all these things. I don't want to.

[A]

You're like vidcon hall of fame was not on the list.

[B]

No, I was, I was touching grass ass.

[A]

But tell tell now the inducted like OG YouTubers into their first ever hall of fame.

[B]

Like the Ray William Johnson's of it all.

[A]

It was not Ray William Johnson. It was Rhett and Link.

[B]

Huh, Joey?

[A]

Huh?

[B]

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[B]

Grace and Tyler really wore like.

[A]

Oh gee, that's so funny because like. And I, I literally have nothing against them at all. I would think of them not as og. I think of them as like the second generation where it was like David Dobriks and stuff like that. Maybe David might be third. Yeah, I would think of them. When did you start?

[B]

I started before David. Kind of in the interim though, like I. I think Tyler Oakley has been doing it longer than me.

[A]

Okay, well you know me, just because I don't have a life right now, I'm just literally waiting for this baby to pop up. I like went back and technically Grace and Tyler did have like videos in like 2006, but in my mind they're like 2010.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know what I mean?

[B]

I don't know when they like blew up, but that is. They.

[A]

They're og, I guess they're OG guys like. Okay. Yeah. So. But my. Oh, I think was there too.

[B]

Do you remember Lisa Nova? I thought about her the other day.

[A]

Yeah. As I. Oh, my God, her. She did like, a parody of, like, Heidi, and she had these, like, big lips, and I was like, oh, she's so pretty. Yeah. Yeah. Lisa Nova, Venetian princess. There was a girl named Hannah Minks who was, like, a. She was a girl that taught, like, Japanese words of the day.

[B]

Yeah. Michelle fan.

[A]

Michelle. Yes. Where was she? I thought she would have been there. Anyways, I'm not, like. I just thought it was interesting.

[B]

One thing I can't do in 2025 is talk about vidcon.

[A]

Wait, are you. Yeah. Well, first of all, I was surprised it's still happening. I was like, wait, that's so crazy. Who's doing it? Is it, like, a corporation now?

[B]

I wonder. I don't know.

[A]

It's been a year since Hannah. It's been. Was it a year? Someone said it was, like, a. Not a year, but the anniversary just came around.

[B]

No way.

[A]

What was it? Like, June. June.

[B]

It was June. It was, like, right before my birthday. Like, June 22nd or something like that.

[A]

Someone was showing, like, the edits of it. When was it?

[B]

Oh, it was actually June 22nd period.

[A]

22Nd. So it's been six years. Yeah, seven years.

[B]

Wait, I have to pee so bad, and this is not me skateboarding.

[A]

I'll come back.

[B]

I peed.

[A]

How do you feel?

[B]

I feel great. I held my pee the whole episode. I don't know why I do that.

[A]

That was pretty good.

[B]

Like, I literally was about to pee myself, and it's like, girl, go. No one's. Trisha's not gonna.

[A]

Like, no one's happy. You're giving Khloe Kardashian, too, right now with the hair and the leopard. It looks so good.

[B]

Into the bathroom, and I looked in the mirror, and I was like, you look so good.

[A]

No, you look. It looks so pretty now. This is like, your. Your.

[B]

I'm not used to having, like, such big hair, but I'm, like, really trying to just own it because it is my Hawaii hair.

[A]

I love it.

[B]

I was, like, trying to detangle it and, like, the color looks good, too.

[A]

Like, it blends so nice at the top. Like, it looks really good.

[B]

You are so sweet and, like, I love you. I'm just. I'm gonna hold your hand when I tell you.

[A]

You.

[B]

It's disgusting right now. Like, so nasty.

[A]

No, you look amazing. You look great. I love your Gucci New York flip flops.

[B]

Oh, my God. I'm like a boy because these flip flops. Wait, what do you Mean, they're men's.

[A]

Oh, I love a low fly.

[B]

I was like, perfect. I love you. And I'm so happy to be here. And I can't believe that this is like, one of the last episodes that we'll film before you have a baby. Baby.

[A]

Yeah. See, one more time.

[B]

You have babies, but another baby? Like, how insane is that? Do you, like, I can't believe that you're not just living in such anxiety right now like, that, like, you could go into labor right now, Trisha.

[A]

Yeah, it's fun. It's like, exciting. I don't know. Like, just. Because I really just lay around all day. Like, before this, I was just like, laying on my side. I'm trying to just like, lay around.

[B]

I'm trying to think about, like, what I would do if you went into labor right now. I feel like I'd be so annoying that I'd have to just like, see myself out of the situation.

[A]

We call Moses, right?

[B]

Well, yeah, yeah, we. We definitely call Moses.

[A]

But like, I just have you take me house. I'm like, don't worry, babe. Tana's taking me.

[B]

Oh, my God. I would, but like, oh, my God.

[A]

We stop at Chick Fil A first.

[B]

Would you like, so, yeah. Like, do you have a bag packed?

[A]

We do, yes. We do have our.

[B]

What's like, in the bag.

[A]

Literally, you don't have to pack. Us personally, we don't pack anything because our hospital gives you everything. They give you diapers, they give you formula. Like, they. They literally give you stuff to take home. So we go with like, empty bags because we. We will stock that. But really just like a cute outfit for like after you give birth for the photo, you know, like your outfit. I do. I think with the girls, I had like a pink strawberry for Malibu matching. And then I had a pink polka dot for Elvis. And then this new one, we have like, cute little blue one. So we have like our. That's the only thing I care about. Otherwise, I'm like, disgusting in the hospital usually. Like, I'm just like, wearing the same clothes and chargers.

[B]

Glam.

[A]

No, no.

[B]

I think that's so wild. I. I do understand. Like, I would probably need something to do with my hands so I didn't, like, freak out.

[A]

Some people do full glams on themselves. I love a full glam when girls do that. Like, I think Leanne V just had her baby and full glam.

[B]

She.

[A]

She did a whole like, get ready with me to give birth and she's up at like 3:30 doing her makeup and hair and looks beautiful. I'm like not a hair makeup girly anyways.

[B]

Yeah. Because I feel like I'd like rip the lashes off and like rip my hair extensions out.

[A]

Yeah, Yeah, I. I'm. No, I definitely just go. I just.

[B]

And then what's the first thing you're eating after you give birth?

[A]

That's so funny too. Cuz I don't like miss out on anything. I don't miss out on like sushi or deli sandwiches cuz I don't really care about that stuff. We always order these really big chicken fingers from like a restaurant nearby and they're like humongous like the size of my head. And even though you're not really supposed to eat that after like a C section, like here has some water chips. I'm like, how about a chicken finger? You know, like they always, they say bananas and stuff like that but I'm like, I've gone through this twice now. I think I can eat a chicken finger.

[B]

Yeah, you can have whatever you want. This is also very interesting. I feel like this is the first time obviously Malibu was like old enough when you were giving birth to Elvis, but I feel like this is the first time where Malibu is like really like old enough, like coherent to really know what's happening.

[A]

She's so aware. She knows the baby's coming. She knows we're going to the doctor to get the baby. Like she knows all that stuff like that. So she's like super aware, which is better. I think before she was like a year, nine months and she kind of was just like, where are they? You know. But I think she's like more aware. And Elvis is actually too little. She's even younger than Malibu was. She's like a year and two months like fully comprehensive like time and any of that stuff. So.

[B]

Yeah, but that's so cool.

[A]

I know, I know. I'm really excited. I can't wait to have a baby. Like I said, I love giving birth. I loved being pregnant. But this is officially our last baby.

[B]

I can't wait to know the name. I'm so.

[A]

I wish I could tell you because it's actually iconic.

[B]

You literally can. I have one hint that you would give like a fan.

[A]

Well, we've been giving hands. It's a period. A movie poster. It's a movie poster.

[B]

Sure. Anything else?

[A]

I'm actually scared to give you more H. I feel like you would actually because we're kind of on the same page as so many things. I think you would actually.

[B]

So yeah, you're right. I'm like, I'm not kidding. I don't think I could live with knowing even like right now I know like one of Isabella's birthday gifts and it's been like eating me alive because I'll. I accidentally spoil birthday gifts all the time.

[A]

Like we haven't even told like my mom.

[B]

Oh yeah, hell no. Don't get me.

[A]

Usually we do, but. But I think it's kind of out there that I think people would be like, no, don't do that.

[B]

No, because that's what you have to do. You have to keep it.

[A]

We're so solid in it now. At first we're like, oh, I don't know cuz we didn't have a. But we're so solid in it that we're not telling anyone. Cuz we're just like people are going to try and talk us like out of it.

[B]

I would never, but still won't tell me. Yeah, I accidentally spoil birthday gifts on the regular. So it's like I'm an accidental spoiler and I hate that about myself.

[A]

So I can't wait to spoiling too. I love, I love a spoiler.

[B]

I just will like, oh my God, I'm so stupid when it comes to that. I just like, I'm flippant with the way that I say things and I would probably blink link in a way that would like no, if you like.

[A]

Told me your name I would feel like I'd be like telling everybody that I know but don't tell anyone. But also you know, and it's like I'm so sorry to also tell people. Don't tell me things because I'll be like, oh, I can't tell you this.

[B]

But I'm finding out with the Trish like fish community like the rest of them and I'm so excited.

[A]

Thank you. I'm so excited too. It's gonna be, it's gonna be great. You're birthing Australia and you're birthing a.

[B]

Baby and then we'll be back and I'm so excited. We're gonna go over I guess to the Patreon and start taking some calls.

[A]

Me forgetting we're filming. I was like, oh yeah, patreon.com not loveline. We should probably done that. Shout out at the beginning of the episode goes once again, who made it this far? Let us know in the comments below. Wait, do you remember when you had like a code word? If you made it this far, say like there should be a line where people have go in the comments and be like, oh my God, I can't believe this is ending or something.

[B]

Oh my God. Okay, okay, okay. Go in the comments and say no, not that one.

[A]

But like I can't believe I like I can't believe Trisha's having twins.

[B]

Oh my God, I love that comment.

[A]

I can't believe she said the baby name or something like that. Yeah, everyone has to go through the whole episode trying to find it.

[B]

That is so smart. Like why did that stop? Bring that one back.

[A]

But it's just like a straight up lie. Some people are like, wait, what?

[B]

That is so smart lying. Okay, call us at this number. And we love you guys and we're.

[A]

Happy to be back and we'll see you, we'll see you in the next one. We'll see over on patreon. Patreon.com.

[B]

I'M so excited.

[A]

Me too.

[B]

I love the Patreon.