IS THIS CELEBRITY COPYING TANA!? 😱 + HE KEEPS FOLLOWING OTHER GIRLS 😡

Summary

Podcast Summary: Not Loveline Episode: IS THIS CELEBRITY COPYING TANA!? 😱 + HE KEEPS FOLLOWING OTHER GIRLS 😡
Release Date: May 5, 2025
Hosts: Tana Mongeau and Trish Paytas

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1. Celebrity Copying and Rebranding

The episode kicks off with Tana Mongeau expressing frustration over celebrities allegedly copying her style. She remarks, “I hate when A thinks everyone's copying her… she could be online tomorrow saying, he me with the toothbrush and I'd still be like, that is a coincidence” (00:00). Trish Paytas adds to the conversation, discussing the similarities between Tana and Millie Bobby Brown, noting how people often mistake one for the other online. The hosts delve into how closely their styles mirror those of certain celebrities, pondering whether such copying is intentional or merely coincidental.

Notable Quote:

• Tana Mongeau: “I hate when A thinks everyone's copying her… that is a coincidence.” (00:00)

2. Morning Routines and Self-Care Trends

Transitioning to self-care, Tana and Trish discuss the intense morning routines popular among influencers, such as cold plunges and ice face baths. Tana shares her own unique approach to waking up, preferring a cold environment to feel more alert, stemming from her childhood experiences in hot climates. Trish contrasts this with her previous desire to maintain a specific hairstyle, highlighting their differing approaches to self-care.

Notable Quote:

• Trish Paytas: “I want to be this. No. The last episode, I'm taking the wig off so I can be back to my hair because I miss that.” (00:29)

3. Fashion and Selling on Depop/Poshmark

The conversation shifts to fashion and the hosts' ventures into selling clothes on platforms like Depop and Poshmark. Tana discusses her decision to declutter her wardrobe, emphasizing the emotional difficulty of parting with beloved items. Trish shares her experience with selling designer shoes and highlights the challenges of maintaining a large online inventory.

Notable Quote:

• Tana Mongeau: “I'm getting rid of so many shoes that I love. So it's breaking my heart because it's like, I don't want to get rid of this.” (05:19)

4. Comparing to Millie Bobby Brown and Celebrity Clones

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to the uncanny resemblance between Tana Mongeau and actress Millie Bobby Brown. The hosts laugh over numerous instances where their appearances have been compared, leading to humorous exchanges about rebranding and potential collaborations. They discuss how such similarities can impact their public image and personal branding.

Notable Quote:

• Trish Paytas: “That's what I'm thinking. It's giving like Tana and someone somewhere is watching you and like your style.” (10:34)

5. Social Media Behavior in Relationships

Listeners call in with concerns about their partners' social media activities, specifically regarding following and interacting with other women on platforms like Instagram. Tana and Trish offer their perspectives, emphasizing the importance of communication and setting boundaries in relationships. They discuss how such behaviors can affect trust and emotional security between partners.

Notable Quote:

• Tana Mongeau: “It's like, men love to play dumb… it's just Instagram. Like, who cares?” (31:27)

6. Managing Narcissistic Relationships and Social Media Issues

Further exploring relationship dynamics, the hosts address the complexities of dealing with narcissistic family members and partners who may not respect personal boundaries. They offer advice on maintaining self-love and the importance of cutting ties with toxic individuals to preserve one’s mental health.

Notable Quote:

• Tana Mongeau: “You don’t want to talk to your parents…but you don’t deserve the right to abuse you and be awful just because they're your parents.” (41:09)

7. Listener Call: Self-Love and Alopecia

In an emotionally charged segment, a listener shares her struggles with alopecia and seeking self-love. Tana and Trish respond with heartfelt advice, encouraging her to embrace her uniqueness and focus on her inner beauty. They emphasize the significance of self-affirmation and the impact of societal beauty standards on personal self-esteem.

Notable Quote:

• Tana Mongeau: “You are so beautiful for the way you are… everyone who loves you sees you.” (52:15)

8. Closing Remarks and Final Thoughts

As the episode winds down, the hosts reflect on their role in providing support and advice to their listeners. They express gratitude for the community they've built and reaffirm their commitment to addressing both lighthearted and serious topics. The session concludes with warm sentiments, reinforcing the themes of self-love, authenticity, and the importance of supportive relationships.

Notable Quote:

• Trish Paytas: “You are not crazy. I think a lot of girls feel this way.” (27:20)

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Conclusion

This episode of Not Loveline offers a blend of humor, personal anecdotes, and sincere advice on navigating the complexities of modern relationships and self-image. Tana Mongeau and Trish Paytas engage authentically with their listeners, addressing both superficial and deeply personal issues with relatability and compassion. From celebrity comparisons to the intricacies of social media behavior in relationships, the duo provides a comprehensive discussion that resonates with a wide audience.

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Transcript

[Tana Mongeau]

But I hate when A thinks everyone's copying her. So, like, I'm not even literally kidding you. She could, like, be online tomorrow saying, he me with the toothbrush and I'd still be like, that is a coincidence. Wow. That's a fun game, though, playing like, who could be on white lotus and who couldn't.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not David. Like David. No White Lotus vibe that laughs. Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Laugh is not giving white.

[Trisha Paytas]

They want to let you in. Ying and yang. Yeah. We don't know if it went together.

[Tana Mongeau]

But I just feel that I want to be this. Like, I want to have the eye.

[Trisha Paytas]

I want to be this. No. The last episode, I'm taking the wig off so I can be back to my hair because I miss that. I'm like, oh, I want that hair.

[Tana Mongeau]

I want that. Honestly. Maybe I'll try to put it on.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. I would help you. I don't know how, but you can do like, bobby pins or something.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm gonna try to put it on. That'd be funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

They hairspray and just like, blow dry it. It's like they put. They put it. They put some hairspray.

[Tana Mongeau]

Maybe I'll put a hat. We'll figure it out.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah, that'd be cute. Get the Von Dutch.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

A leopard on leopard. On leopard.

[Tana Mongeau]

Trisha. I'm doing it. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, here we go. All right, here we go. We're back. We're gonna get right into questions, but I did have something I was gonna bring up.

[Tana Mongeau]

I know are trying so hard to fight the yap.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

But it's not who we are innately. Go ahead. I want to knowsy we ended a.

[Trisha Paytas]

Patreon and you left off on such a good topic that I was like, oh, I want to address this on the mainstream. Not Loveline. Welcome back to Not Loveline. By the way. We're not doctors, we're not experts. We barely. We don't even give relationship advice hardly anymore. We're just, like, yapping. But we will at least.

[Tana Mongeau]

We're just trying to lock in today.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I swear I'm going to get through this quick and fast. Oh, my God. But we were talking right before this about the way we sleep, which is not what I was going to talk about. But you said you slept at 59 degrees.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes. I, like, want to feel as close to being in, like, a morg as possible. Like, to, like, I want to be freezing.

[Trisha Paytas]

But then you said to get up, you have to be hot.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes. Cuz if I'm even like. If it's even like 77 in my room. I, like, wake up, like, and, like, I can't sleep hot, so I have to make myself hot to, like, get up. I think it's from growing up poor because, like, I lived in Vegas and It'd be like 110 degrees outside. No exaggeration. And my dad would never use the air conditioning, so, like, I could never sleep hot. So, like, when I got money, that was the very first thing I was excited to have was air conditioning. Yes. And, like, I love it now. Like, but almost in my formative years, like, you know what I mean? Being hot while I slept.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And hating it gives you that childhood where, like, okay, I'm gonna be up now.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Like, I can't sleep hot to save my life. I want to feel like. I want to be shivering, freezing.

[Trisha Paytas]

I like being freezing.

[Tana Mongeau]

My hands are outside of the covers. I want them to hurt from how cold they are.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, the best. I do love that too. It's just like being nice and cozy. Do you see the trend now? Morning routines where they, like, dunk their face in ice, these people?

[Tana Mongeau]

And it's like, I'm. I know all these things help, but I'm being a hater from the outside because I'm waking up. I rip the pink battery until I rise, and then I go have my awful diabetes coffee creamer. It's not even coffee. It's white. My drink. Like, you know, like, I wish I was cold, plunging, and ice rolling. And you should try it.

[Trisha Paytas]

You should try a morning routine at 4am because that's when they get up. They get their 4am meditation workout, ice face bath, whatever they're doing.

[Tana Mongeau]

By the time I actually, like, these people go into work after that. By the time I actually had to do something, I'd be one, like, crying.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I always wonder if they go to it. You know what I'm talking about? There's like a male fitness influencers that do that. You haven't seen these.

[Tana Mongeau]

I've kind. I've seen the girlies doing it.

[Trisha Paytas]

There's like the whole male trend, and, like, literally their whole morning is just them taking care of themselves, which is, like, good. But it's like, they go to the gym, they go swimming, they do this, and then they get in their fancy car, drive, put on a suit. But then they just, like, go to a restaurant, have, like, steak frites, you know, like steak and fries or something. I'm just like, what is this day in the life? It's so weird.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's. And it's like, like, it's like, good for you. And I imagine that you feel amazing. I just. And I'm sure that if I did all of that, I would then eventually start feeling better and having more energy. But, like, at this point in my life, like, I'm dedicating all of my energy to my job and like my whatever. Like the idea. Well, and a lot of it is, like, not fake approved. Like, I'm gonna cold plunge my tan and blowout off.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah, your tan would be gone.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, mine too, as I'm pale and you're having one of those days.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're looking so cute. No, I was having dismiss. I felt like Morticia. Adam, I want to look like you so bad. You look like hot soccer mom married a race car driver.

[Tana Mongeau]

And that's womanhood like, within itself. Like, we're sitting across from each other, wanting what the other one has.

[Trisha Paytas]

But you look so good right now.

[Tana Mongeau]

You look so good right now.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I'm not.

[Tana Mongeau]

I just. Without the lash and the tan and all of it, I feel naked today. I also am restarting my depop after all that I talked about Alyssa Violet on depop. So I'm wearing clothes that I want to sell before I sell them.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's going on depop tomorrow.

[Tana Mongeau]

But obviously if you want to sell something, you don't live for it, you know, so it's like, no, I don't agree.

[Trisha Paytas]

I live my, like, sell, like tour costumes on Poshmark. Cuz I love it. I just don't have, like, room. Like, I have zero room.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's true. It's like, I do love this dress and I've worn it a lot in my life, but I'm just. I need to get rid of it now. So I guess it's things for me that are, like, tired. I did love it for so long.

[Trisha Paytas]

That one's gonna look so cute. Do you have your depop set up?

[Tana Mongeau]

I do have it set up. By the time this is, I'm sure it will up and running. What? It's called how they find you something Tana Moo. I don't.

[Trisha Paytas]

My closet's Trish P88 on Poshmark. Go check out my mom. Every day. You saw her here every day. She's coming, shipping stuff out. She ships hundreds of dollars of clothes out every day. People just like. And they went to the meet and greets, like, And I'm like, oh, I. I know that dress. Like, it's yours. I was like, I love it. And even, like, smaller girls get it, like, tailored to them and Then. And then there's girls who are exactly my size and like, I can't believe we're the same size. And it's like, weird because, like, I'm a 2x and everything. So, like, it's weird how many body types it fits.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, that's cool.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like this traveling pants. It kind of fit everybody.

[Tana Mongeau]

And it is like, that is. There's so many pieces that I'm getting rid of right now that I love so dearly. So it' like, it's going to be nice to give it a whole new life. Like, my shoes. You know how my feet won't stop growing?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm getting rid of so many shoes that I love. So it's breaking my heart because it's like, I don't want to get rid of this. I just.

[Trisha Paytas]

My feet, me, I had size sevens and I bought every Louboutin in size 37s and then I. I couldn't. I had to get 38s and ever. I remember at the time I was selling it, I was like, she's broken. I truly, like. Like, maybe I was at the time, but that's not why I was selling them. I really needed to buy new shoes.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I had to sell all my shoes to get these new ones.

[Tana Mongeau]

Louboutins are also so uncomfortable.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know how Zendaya.

[Tana Mongeau]

That was one of the first things I ever like. I don't know. I feel like when you first get money, you think of, like, the designer things that are like the serious flex or especially at whatever time that was like 2016 or 15, everyone had Louboutins, you know, and that was one of the first things I got. And then I was like, oh, my, they're the most painful shoe. I know that they just made the Zendaya ones. Yes. Like, they made a new one to be more comfortable. It's the first Louboutin ever with a foot pad, I guess.

[Trisha Paytas]

And like, those are the most uncomfortable because they're so narrow and pointy and they're awful.

[Tana Mongeau]

And it's tippy toe. Like, I mean, even the creator of Louboutin has said, like, we're making these for. Not for comfort, for the look of it. And they feel that way. I ban myself from them. I'll never buy a pair so long as they live. Unless they were 100 bucks and a kitten heel, maybe on Depop or something that.

[Trisha Paytas]

But, like, I'll do a YSL tribute. Those are the only ones I can kind of like walk in and that's if I really want to wear a heel.

[Tana Mongeau]

What is that, the strappy one?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, they're like strappy. Yeah, they're like gladiator style ones. Those are kind of comfortable. Other than that, I'm in ballet flats. I have the little, I don't know what brand. Maybe it's called Kate K H A I T E. Have you seen those are like mesh with like crystals on it? Yeah, I saw them. I think Sophia. We're talking about Sophia. I think she wears them. So I was like, oh, I'm gonna get. And I love. I'll be in a dress up flat all day long.

[Tana Mongeau]

I love a dressed up ballet flat. I've been wanting the Miu Miu ballet flats, but with my big honkers, it's not giving ballet. It's giving ballet.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you would be cute in it. Which one do you want? Like the ballet slippers. The ones that look like slippers? Yes.

[Tana Mongeau]

And then they have the little mew mew strap across it. But I, I own other ball flats and I never wear them. So I, I can't ever justify buying something designer if I don't wear.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

The like, other version of it that I have.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know the Kate flats I talk about because I went from a mingers, I have like 10 pairs of them. They're like 900 each, but I like, don't, don't want them to ever, like go away. Like, and you know, like they straight up style. So I literally bought like 10 pairs of nude and 10 pairs in black because they're so dressy. And every time we wear them out, people are always like, oh, even like masters wherever we go, they're like, theirs are so cute. So I'm like, I'm getting a thousand.

[Tana Mongeau]

Pairs I want to try. They're comfy.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're so comfy. They're like mesh nude and black. And then they have the crystals and they're the cape brand. I think it's Sophia Richie. I think that's why I found it. Anyways, what it was we were talking about, the last one is like, okay, on Patreon, we were talking about someone is dating a tennis player. Some influencer. You follows dating a tennis player. And so you're like, okay. That's like her lifestyle now. Is her at like the tennis game being all cutesy. But did you see your rebrand? Everyone thinks of you. Do you see the surfer surfing with the Birkin bag?

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, yes, Trisha. That's so funny. She just showed me that there's this video of this blonde on wakeboarding.

[Trisha Paytas]

It looks like you.

[Tana Mongeau]

She looks just like me, honestly. She's a full blonde. She's in a full outfit, stilettos, and she's on a wakeboard. And I am. I. I give everyone my word. I will recreate that at some point in my life. I'm learning how to. And that's very different. Like, you can never do that surfing because, like, the wakeboarding, it works because she got off the boat in the fit. And then you have to be that good at wakeboarding because obviously, once she falls into the water, the purse goes in and the hair and the fit is no longer, like, it's so. Because she walked off the boat, got on the wakeboard, and is, like, able to not fall off and so you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can do a wakeboard.

[Tana Mongeau]

I've tried wakeboarding. It's hard. As would take me, like, probably five months of wakeboarding to be able to do what that girl is doing in that video.

[Trisha Paytas]

So that was so slain. I love. Everyone, like, thought that was you. Like, I thought it was you, too. And everyone's like, this is her rebrand. And I was like, wait, so when you're talking about the girl, like, the tennis games, I'm like, but you're the girl that's, like, at the surfer games with. With your boyfriend, just with your Birkin. Like, he's so cute.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, my God. You're. Honestly, you're on to something. Because I. I get tagged in that every day. I should honestly just post that on my account and say, it's me because who is that?

[Trisha Paytas]

Who is that? That's what I would know. Like, who did it?

[Tana Mongeau]

She's so for that. She really is so for that. That's so funny. Trisha, like, wasn't telling me what she was going to bring up. She's like, no, I'm saving it. It's cute. And I have such anxiety. I'm like, what scandal was I in in 2017?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I love that this is the thing or the other one that I was going to bring up. And this is, like, so ulti. Even by the time we're filming this. But whatever is like, Millie Bobby Brown looking just like you.

[Tana Mongeau]

Someone just text me while I was in the bathroom, one of my friends and was like, I keep seeing Millie Bobby Brown and thinking it's you.

[Trisha Paytas]

The updo that she's doing. Like, the roots, the blonde, like, everything. I was just like, what? So similar.

[Tana Mongeau]

I have a whole album in my phone of all of our, like, similar looks. And I don't think I don't think Millie Bobby Brown even knows who I am. Maybe now she's. People are commenting it so much, it's wild. I opened up a tick tock of her the other day and it was just of her talking, talking and the top comment was like I thought this was Tana Mongeau and it had 250000 likes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like I was like wild and like. I mean you're on the mood board somewhere for sure. Because I'm just like, this is Tana. And she's such a different vibe and style. And I know people like she's gunning for like the Britney Spears role. But I'm like, this is giving like Tana and someone somewhere is watching you and like your style.

[Tana Mongeau]

I have like nine insane comparisons where we've worn this one. I don't have the album put together. I started doing. Look, there's this one. This was my birthday, right. And I wore this.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God.

[Tana Mongeau]

I was in Hawaii and I hammered and you don't even want to look so good. But look at.

[Trisha Paytas]

Is there anyone in the album? Just one in your album?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Because I just. Yeah, I need to. I have it all in my screenshots. But.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, putting it together.

[Tana Mongeau]

Put it together on a plane.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's a good time to do it.

[Tana Mongeau]

I know. Well, it's because it's just like funny to look at her here. She has the same wavy hair in the green and it was her birthday and I have like what? I have like nine like this that are wild. And I'm like, I would love.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's crazy.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm sure she is like if she's gunning for a Britney Spears role, she's fighting the Tana Mongeau allegations tooth and nail. I would be too but I would love to like meet up with her and like whatever. She's so cool. I love Millie Bobby.

[Trisha Paytas]

That one like look. I mean you have to put a side by side now on Tick Tock. That's.

[Tana Mongeau]

I know. I've never seen that one more that are that insane. I'm not kidding. Like same silver dress for one of them. There's a leopard coat one where we look identical. It's.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like cosplaying you.

[Tana Mongeau]

I would live.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think so I, you know, why.

[Tana Mongeau]

Would get the nosebleed and I would start being 11. Like if, you know, if she came out and said that. But I know that obviously. Obviously, once again she's probably like stop saying that. Like that's probably enough for her to like go Brunette, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I feel like she loves it. I. There was a Rihanna one and I. It was like three months after. It was the exact same, like, look. It was like a blonde updo I did with like leopard and the coat and everyone did it. But then the spaghetti and meatballs and the way it was like hanging out of her mouth, it was like, exactly. I was like, oh, my way. I think I'm in the mood board for this.

[Tana Mongeau]

And like, celebrities are just people too. Like, you know, like, they see things and take inspiration. But I just. Just hold Millie Bobby Brown to a very high standard in my head. Her new marriage, she's very. She's never done a damn thing wrong, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

So there's no world where, like, I'm actually her inspiration. She probably just went blonde and she's wearing things. You know what's funny is I was showing Makoa all of this in bed one night. I was showing him all the things that Millie Bobby Brown and I have worn that are the same. And Makoa goes, I, baby, I love you. I don't mean this in the slightest mean way at all. I just. I.

[Trisha Paytas]

That.

[Tana Mongeau]

What haven't you worn.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is like.

[Tana Mongeau]

You are so real. Because, like, I've worn.

[Trisha Paytas]

But that's so cool too. Like, don't you love that? Like. Or like a digital footprint? Like, when people are like, talking about their high school, I just type in like triple high school. And like, my pictures pop up. Trisha Paytas, like, brown feet. Like, it comes, you know, like whatever it is, whatever something that comes up because you've done and worn so much. So that is kind of cool actually, that no matter what you wear, you could find a comparison of someone like, copying. You wore that first.

[Tana Mongeau]

You know, it's a certain type of narcissism to really believe that someone is copying you. Like, I. Seriously, sincerely, even as crazy as the Millie stuff is, I don't necessarily know if I believe that it's not narcissism.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because, like, everyone's saying. If everyone else is saying it too. It's like, okay, like, obviously it's.

[Tana Mongeau]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I just.

[Tana Mongeau]

I weirdly hate it when I always tell you this, but I hate when A thinks everyone's copying her. So, like, I'm not even literally kidding you. She could like be online tomorrow saying he me with the toothbrush and I'd still be like, that is a coincidence.

[Trisha Paytas]

But you would love it because we talked about how we like copying people also. It's like, to me, I think that's like, such a slay. I was like, oh, my God. She's like, like, yeah, dressing like me. That's so cool.

[Tana Mongeau]

If there's ever a world where, like, she even took an ounce of inspiration for me, that's so. I love her, but I don't. I'm not claiming that she's never responded to anything.

[Trisha Paytas]

You haven't seen anything?

[Tana Mongeau]

No, I DM'd her too. And I was like, what did I say?

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that.

[Tana Mongeau]

I always send my DMs at like 3 in the morning and then I don't remember what I said. And it's like she left me on scene for sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my gosh.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, I haven't sent a dm. Actually, I just lied.

[Trisha Paytas]

She sent one.

[Tana Mongeau]

Now what should I say? I feel like I should be like, hey, twin. Should I say, hey, twin?

[Trisha Paytas]

Let's say, hey, twin. Yeah, that's cute. She's kind of the it girl right now. She is kind of like, everywhere. And she looks so good. And she looks great in the blonde. Like, I love it. But you guys, like, look so identical. It's like, actually crazy.

[Tana Mongeau]

Just dm. Millie Bobby Brown. Hey, twin. Take my phone away.

[Trisha Paytas]

But she might be like, oh, my gosh. You know what I mean? Like, sometimes you meet people and they're like, oh, I'm like a fan of you. And it's like the wildest thing, you know.

[Tana Mongeau]

Didn't she date, like, Jacob Sartorius? Or am I making that up?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think that's Rebecca Black. Someone did. No. Who did? Oh, Lauren Gray.

[Tana Mongeau]

Really?

[Trisha Paytas]

Right. I don't know. I had some tick tocker on that.

[Tana Mongeau]

I think Millie Bobby Brown dated janitoris. Yeah. Now she's married.

[Trisha Paytas]

Bon Jovi son, Right?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. And she was telling a really cute story about him on Call Her Daddy. I saw a clip of that.

[Trisha Paytas]

What'd you say?

[Tana Mongeau]

She was just saying how her dad, like, always tests the guys that she's with. And, like, he passed all the tests with, like, flying colors and, like, road trip.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

And that they, like, all road tripped in an RV together and stuff. And that he was like, down. Like, they're so cute every time I hear a story about them or like, like their proposals or anything. Like, whatever. It's all so cute.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's, like, trying to have babies already. She's like, I'm ready to get Mom. Like, I love that. I'm happy for them.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. So iconic. We love you, Millie Bobby Brown. I am Millie Bobby Beige, and I am. I love you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Please come on out the line. We Love you so much. She's so cute. You guys should definitely need to collab or something.

[Tana Mongeau]

I would absolutely love to, but like I said, fully understand if she doesn't.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, she is kind of like, blowing up. She's like that girl.

[Tana Mongeau]

She's very safe. Like. Like, she. She's never done anything wrong in her life, ever. She's been 11, been sweet, and then got mar. Married.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, you know, like, it's just wholesome.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. And we love that.

[Trisha Paytas]

We love her. Okay. I'm glad we got to address hot topics.

[Tana Mongeau]

Have you ever. Yeah. You're so funny. Wait, I want to know because that's.

[Trisha Paytas]

All I was thinking. I'm glad we haven't talked about this.

[Tana Mongeau]

I know. We really haven't. Have you ever had somebody copy you or you thought they were copying you?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I do copy everyone. So there's like, truly, I would never be like, oh, my God, they copy me. Like, you're. Even your birthday one's like a pretty original. Unless you were, like, copying someone, but, like, that looked pretty. Like just a tana outfit that you would wear.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, I was just drunk and neon in Hawaii, but like, the.

[Trisha Paytas]

The way it was framed and everything set up like that. Yeah. No, I mean, no, I copy too many people, so, you know, you can't copy Trisha Paytas.

[Tana Mongeau]

Also, like, if any other was doing like all the. Like. Like covering shallow or like doing anything that you do, it'd be like, okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Nobody wants to do that. Nobody's trying to do my route. They're like, no, thank you.

[Tana Mongeau]

I don't know if I agree with that at all.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's the beauty. We're talking about being on Lane. I kind of love doing, like, weird things because it's like, no one's trying to.

[Tana Mongeau]

But it's also like your mind. You know what I mean? Like, even I just. Your mind is so special. Like the things that you think of and like your creativity level and the things you want to do. I always. I'm just like, oh, to have Trisha Paytas's creative mind.

[Trisha Paytas]

Thanks. Well, you're very creative too, but I just.

[Tana Mongeau]

You're the goat.

[Trisha Paytas]

We do have. Like, it's so funny, the different creativities. We're talking about your, like, pickle thing. And I'm like, that's so funny. Like, it's something I would never think about doing. And you're just like, I'm making a pickle bow and we're doing a photo shoot for it. And I was like, I love that for you.

[Tana Mongeau]

I am so excited. It's just because I love pickles, and I've been wanting to release pickles for so long. No.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's actually so cute. I was, like, so happy for you, but I'm like, this is how different. Everything we do creatively. But either way.

[Tana Mongeau]

But it's nice because it's. I don't know, it's nice that we have things that we can tell each other about that the other one is not, like, you know, I'm never gonna do Broadway.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I love to hear about it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

And, like, you know what I mean? Like, hear about the things that you're doing and live vicariously through, like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Or like, you were talking about, like, private jets and, like, the men that would fly you on there. I'm like, damn, I wish I had that lifestyle at any point.

[Tana Mongeau]

I don't even want that. I swear.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's really.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Because. Because you end up just owing men, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I, like. I have a lot of girlfriends who, like, do that, you know, like, have the daddies that, like, pay for everything, and it's. It's cool until it's not. There's a lot of dark sides to all of that. Even I was talking about that with her the other day. I was like, you know, it's nice and all, but we always talk about that whenever we see, like, the girl dating the rich man in the White Lotus scenario.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

They're usually not happy, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Like, what are you giving up for? That's why we always talk about this to, like, Holly talking about Playboy is like. Okay. Makes me feel a little better about not being invited to live there.

[Tana Mongeau]

You know what I mean? Yes. It's funny that at one point, because I felt this so hard. It was the dream.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, all you wanted to do was be invited to live at the Playboy Mansion. And now looking back, it's like, all you didn't want to do.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I know. Like, thank God. I know. I remember just to be like, I hope he stays alive until I'm 18. And then, like, he did, but didn't last very long.

[Tana Mongeau]

No. And I loved. I made the. I made Hefner. I love Hugh Hefner. Did you know? I loved.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did she ever go to Playboy Mansion? No.

[Tana Mongeau]

Because by the time I, like, could. I think Hostess owned it, because the cupcakes. Yeah. Like, the Twinkie people bought the Playboy Mansion. I guess, like, the cream filled. You know, they've got something in common.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did they tear down? Huh? They tear down Playboy Mansion.

[Tana Mongeau]

Did they.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can you look it up? I think there was, like, a thing.

[Tana Mongeau]

And then, like, Marston Hefner lived next door, right?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I didn't know all that.

[Tana Mongeau]

I like, no.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did he go on your podcast or am I tripping?

[Tana Mongeau]

You are tripping.

[Trisha Paytas]

He never did. Why do I feel like maybe he went on Girls Next Level? I was like, I saw him somewhere.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, my God. That's crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's crazy.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm watching that tonight.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. I was like, I want him on Just Trash. I have so many questions.

[Tana Mongeau]

Well, is. He's, like, very different from his dad, Right? He was always very.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not kind of involved, though. But yeah, very different.

[Tana Mongeau]

Involved, but not involved in the.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think he, like, there's one problematic son. Must be the other one. There's one that kind of had, like, him that dated a Playboy model. There was, like, allegations against him, but I'm not sure if that's Marston or the other one.

[Tana Mongeau]

I don't.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know the other one.

[Tana Mongeau]

I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Cooper is the other one Cooper.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. They didn't renovate it. 10 million renovation.

[Trisha Paytas]

$10 million in renovations.

[Tana Mongeau]

Wow. I'd love to see it renovate. I would love to go. I would still go. Just. Just because of how long of my life I was obsessed with it.

[Trisha Paytas]

They kind of almost should revive it. Not for, like, the darkness that was like Hugh Hefner, but, like, all the girls that made it so cool and fun and get, like, a retro vibe. So girls can just go and give me chills.

[Tana Mongeau]

Because it really. It is crazy. Like, Playboy was ran on the back of all of these women and. And Hugh Hefner just got all the credit. How nuts.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which is crazy. I know. It's like Pamela, Marilyn, even Barbie, Holly. Like, all those girls made it. We wanted to be in Playboy because of them.

[Tana Mongeau]

And it all kind of rooted in. Because even. That's what blew up Playboy kind of. Right. Was him having Marilyn Monroe on the COVID But he bought those images in a sketchy way. And, like, she never approved that. And, like, I can only imagine, even because she. Was she alive at the time.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

So. Yeah. So imagine like a naked image of you that necessarily maybe didn't know was gonna go mainstream is now in this magazine. Like, I know, obviously, I don't know Marilyn Monroe, and I can't speak for Marilyn Monroe. I didn't think I'd be saying those words today. I love disclaimer, but, like, I. You could imagine that there was maybe a world where she was like, wait, I didn't want these images of me bought and publicized. So it started because it also was.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, before she blew up, I believe. I believe it was 1955. Was her pictorials. Her first. The first is Geo Playboy. And she. I think it's probably when she was blowing up, like, 55 was probably like the era like gentlemen for blondes. Because she died in 62. So she probably was like, 50. 1958 was probably her first movie.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. And he bought those. Their images that she took before she blew up and then he bought them and like, whatever. And that's kind of wild. Like, no one ever was mad about that, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Right. And they should have been like, even.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like Kim K when she did Playboy. If you go back and watch that, I just re. Watched that episode of the Kardashians, like recently, she very much was asking him and saying, like, I don't want to be naked. Do I have to be naked? And he was. Was like, yes, you have to.

[Trisha Paytas]

You guys on it?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, he's in the episode of the Kardashians. It's. It's funny as honestly to watch back.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was it Chris there too? Was it the pearls?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes. And Chris was being so, like, unhinged a little bit. I miss the old Kardashians. Like, it'll like. I love the new seasons, but the unhinged.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't like the unhinged. I never watch unhinged. I would see clips. I'm like, wow, this looks trashy. Them like hitting each other and stuff. Like the screaming chaos. You love the cat?

[Tana Mongeau]

Of course. I love.

[Trisha Paytas]

Just pretty glam, just boring. Just sit on your couches and talk. Like, I love that. Like the hitting trigger. I didn't even watch it, but I would see it. And I was like, oh my God. Just like so triggering.

[Tana Mongeau]

Courtney and Scott's relationship was so insane. Like back in the. The fighting and the. All the crazy town. It was much more, I guess. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't want to see any of that. So I like there.

[Tana Mongeau]

You're real for that.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I love that you're real for liking the chaos.

[Tana Mongeau]

Protect your peace though.

[Trisha Paytas]

Even back then. I like trashy. How's everything? But love them now.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Tana's beef with the Kardashians continue. We just saw the tick tock clip from the last episode.

[Tana Mongeau]

We're literally in the glam room and I open up my for you page and it's me talking about the Kardashians on Loveline. It says, tana's beef with the Kardashians. And I'm like, what?

[Trisha Paytas]

What did I say?

[Tana Mongeau]

Because we filmed for so long, I get anxiety around Loveline sometimes because I'm like, I have no idea what I said.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, but it's always good.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, but Jimmy, I. He's like the best editor. He has my back and everything I've ever said or I'm ever saying is true. But sometimes doesn't mean.

[Trisha Paytas]

But 7 dude, he kind of knows. He always knows, like what you say versus what you not. Anyways, we are. We do love. We love here. I know we film for, I guess people don't know, like eight hours. We've been doing now a day from noon to like 8pm and we are so hard working. We are so hard. It's like a telethon. It is a telethon. It's a qvc. It's like.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. You were comparing it to a radio show. That's how it feels for us over here. But in the best way. I was. People always ask how we talk this much and, you know, it's. It's our God given gift to yap.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I was like Moses. Like, I love this job because it's just like, you just get to like sit and talk for like nine hours. And I get to sit like I, you know, standing. He's standing, but then he's like. Some people like a mindless job. They don't want to talk for eight hours. They like put in talk for eight hours. Yeah, So I get that too.

[Tana Mongeau]

So that's weirdly mindless to us though. Like, I can like autopilot. Yeah. I was talking about this the other day. I can. I don't know what this is, but I can autopilot.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Podcast. I can autopilot. Have a full conversation on a podcast and be somewhere else completely in my head, which is like, horrifying.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, interesting.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like right now I'm here.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Okay.

[Tana Mongeau]

But I'm just saying, like, it's weird that I can do that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Autopilot. Yeah. I, I can't. Especially when I interview people or talk to someone. One, if I don't, like, really pay attention, then I just lose it and I'm just like, I don't know where we're going.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, it's. It's like weird and scary, this one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. We never run out. And we've done it two days in a row, basically. So eight hours, two days in a row. Not running out.

[Tana Mongeau]

I love it here. We are not running out.

[Trisha Paytas]

Take call. Let's take a call.

[Tana Mongeau]

Devin said. And we said, okay, yes, time for a call. Because we will just. Yeah, forever. But we're trying to take more calls today. This episode, hopefully, is going to be for the caller lovers.

[Trisha Paytas]

We're doing five. Call that at least 30 minutes of Gabby. Okay, 30 minutes. He's like, 30 minutes done. Yeah. I love you. We love it.

[Tana Mongeau]

Even if we don't listen to you at all. Devin, we appreciate you trying to provide.

[Trisha Paytas]

Should I stop? You guys? Like, you could try. Even if we ignore you. It's still great to try.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, it's great to know that. We should shut up and take a call, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I like it. I appreciate it.

[C]

Hi, Trisha and Tana. Oh, my God. Like, the fact that y'all could hear me right now, like, this is, like, a potential is crazy. Anyway, I've been seeing this guy for, like, four months, and, like, it's getting pretty serious, but I'm, like, kind of crazy. And I like. You know, I noticed that Instagram following number go up. Like, I can see it. And I can see, like, every time he follows a new girl, and I'm like, if you like me as much as you say you like me, why, what is the point of following new women on Instagram? And it's not like, just like any women. They're like, baddies. And it's like, damn, like, why. Why do you want to look at that? Why do you want to follow them? Like, Like, I just feel like there's something up with that because, like, I really like him. There's no one else that I wanna. You know, Am I taking this too seriously? Like, am I being too crazy about it, or would you be a little bothered? Like, I feel like I'm pretty valid, but I don't know. What do you guys think? I love you guys so much.

[Trisha Paytas]

Bye. Oh, I love you.

[Tana Mongeau]

We love you. You are not crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're not crazy. I think a lot of girls feel this way. Are they in a relationship or nurses likes him.

[Tana Mongeau]

Are they. They're in a relationship.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, they're in a relationship.

[Tana Mongeau]

They're, like, talking stage, I think. Yeah. I mean, regardless.

[Trisha Paytas]

Four months.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's so like. And so many girls deal with this problem, and so many men. It's. It's. To me. Is this to say. But it's like men following Instagram bodies that they will never have or attain or know or is. To me, it feels like a corn addiction. It's like, it's.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right, that's true.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's similar. It's not the same thing, but, yeah, I get that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, why did you. I guess if it's like, someone you're interested in or, like, something, but, like, if it's just like a Instagram model just showing her body, it is, like, weird. Why do you have to follow her?

[Tana Mongeau]

And it's the same thing. Because then we as women find ourselves comparing to those girls these unattainable beauty standards. Or same thing to the. The corn stars. We find ourselves comparing, and in reality, it's incomparable and it's Annoying. And you're so valid to feel like you see this all the time. You know, where she's like, I don't need anyone else or anything else. Why does he. And I think it's important to call people out on this kind of. I do.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Moses follows one person on Tik Tok, and that's me. It's so funny. Even people, like, he just, like, interacts with or, like, knows, like, you know, he doesn't. He doesn't follow. You don't follow a lot of people. Like, I don't think you follow, like, like, Moses or Oscar. Like, not a bad way. But I was like, oh, that's kind of, like, cool, because, you know, I just assume I should follow. I still don't follow Makoa because I don't know. Not for any reason, but I was like, I guess, like, you in theory.

[Tana Mongeau]

This is how I'm finding out. I don't follow Moses. Like, sorry, Moses. Because I'm always.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, he didn't know that. I. I did because I was, like, so curious. I was just like, oh, that's, like, so interesting. Like, who you followed. I don't know why I, like, looked, but I was like, oh, you don't follow Oscar either.

[Tana Mongeau]

You know what's funny is I follow Oscar Crave on Twitter. There's no way I follow Oscar Craven.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oscar Crave's coming for his nachos. My dad met Oscar Crave at Broadway and was like, oh, o. Oscar, the host of the podcast. Like, he thought Oscar Crave because he doesn't watch podcast. But he and Oscar was at the Broadway show. I'm telling you, Oscar Crave is coming for you. And even in my, like, last show, he wore a similar outfit. Oscar wore.

[Tana Mongeau]

That is so funny. I love you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Follow Oscar.

[Tana Mongeau]

Anyways, I need to follow off.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, it was something that. No, because I was. God, I don't even know how I looked. I don't know. I probably was just, like, looking to see who you follow. And I was like, oh, that's so interesting. But then I was like, I guess I really don't.

[Tana Mongeau]

But then I follow, like, my mailman from 2018. I followed, like, thousands of people on Instagram. I been meaning to go on a cleanse, but I guess in a way.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like a same gender. Like, I'm like, I guess I don't follow a Paige on, like, Instagram. I follow her on Tik Tok. But even then I'm like, okay, is that, like, weird? Because, like, I mean, she. Now I know where I've seen her a lot. But, like, at the beginning, I'm like, is it weird to follow people you don't really know? You know, like, met. But am I going to follow him on Instagram? I don't know. I don't know if I. I would see what I need to see through you of moa.

[Tana Mongeau]

You know, he just doesn't post, so you wouldn't get anything. I'm trying to get him to. I actually have been wanting to make him public. His Instagram.

[C]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm gonna get your bag, babe. He's. He's on the fence, but we'll see.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, either. So, like, if you all. Nothing happens, but I'm just like. It's so interesting because I'm just like, oh. Like, should you follow someone or is it weird?

[Tana Mongeau]

I think this is different.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, well, that's what I was getting to like, this caller. I'm like, you. Where? I'm like, I don't know. I haven't even checked, like, most value. But I wouldn't be mad. Obviously now. But maybe early on I would be. I'd be like, well, yeah, following her, you know?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, like, if he was just. Just like, yeah, like now it's like, okay, like, we see each other and like, whatever. But I just think it's so strange. Like, it's such a strange phenomenon, all these men following when they have a girlfriend because it's like. Or have a girl. It's just like, go look. Maybe go on your Explore page or whatever. But like, following them is just. And it's like, men love to play dumb. Men love to be like, I don't know why you don't care about that. Like, it's just Instagram. Like, who cares? Like, I just like things mindlessly. Like, you hear all the those stupid excuses and it's like, you are smart enough to know why this would be frustrating. And there's no. Like, yes, she could turn around and follow like Noah Beck, but it's just like, not the same thing at all.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not the same at all.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's just. I don't know. And I think that there is the caliber of men who do it and there's the caliber of men who don't do it. And sometimes it's hard to have that fight with a man who doesn't want to see that because there's a lot of men where you like, like I said, she might bring it up to him and he's gonna be like, well, who cares? I don't know them, whatever. And it's like, well, then maybe that type of guy just isn't for you if it really bothers you and it sucks. But maybe you need someone who's touching grass more and grateful for what's actually in front of them. Or you get over it and you don't care. But I understand why people do care, of course.

[Trisha Paytas]

And, like, if it bothers you, that should be. That's fine. Like, if it's not, if it doesn't bother someone else, fine. But if it bothers you, then don't be. Because I was. I did date a guy who would always like sexy girls Instagram. And he would say the same thing. He's like, I just like every photo. Like, I just like everyone's photos for interaction, engagement.

[Tana Mongeau]

Do you have a thumb disorder? Like, you're an idiot?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And then there's like. Then I found something like Moses who, like, doesn't, like, follow anything. Like, he's not even on social media. Which I kind of like, like in that sense of, like, consuming content. And I, like, need that to make me feel secure. Because I think if I had a guy that was, like, liking even, like, your photos, I've had a guy that's just, like, constantly liking your photos. Like, yeah, it may be weird. Or commenting. I don't know, maybe it's not. I guess now it's like, I'm married. Maybe it's different. But even so, no, I don't know.

[Tana Mongeau]

So weird. I do. I remember the first time Makoa told me that he thinks liking photos of other girls would be considered cheating. And I've dated all these men in Los Angeles who literally would sooner die before uttering those words. And I was like, I almost had, like, conditioned myself to not care. Do you know what I mean? And then I was like, whoa. Like, dating someone who, like, feels that before I even, like, would think to say anything, it just, like, shifted my perspective a lot. I've never really cared about. About people watching corn, like, flippantly. I think a corn addiction is different. But yeah, now I think if I was dating someone who was, like, liking Brecky Hill's photos, I would be like, will you go try to get her then? Okay? Because she wouldn't want your left right up, down.

[Trisha Paytas]

At every age, my mom dated someone, like, seriously for a couple years that was, like, so obsessed with Jennifer Aniston. And he worked on, like, a late night talk show when, like, Jennifer Aniston would come, like, like, he would literally, like, try to, like, get with her. And so my mom was just like, what the hell? So anyways, when they would watch her on the movies, she's like, will you try to get with Jennifer Aniston? And he's just like, well, you have to shoot your shot with them if you see them. I'm like, that's crazy. Guys are so delusional. And this guy was like, 50s. In his 50s. I was like, that's crazy that you see someone on a movie and because you see them in real life, you think, well, I have to shoot the shot even if I'm with someone. I'm like, that's crazy.

[Tana Mongeau]

Aniston would rather die.

[Trisha Paytas]

Literally. No one's nothing to do with this.

[Tana Mongeau]

That is so funny. Like, it's even just before liking Instagram photos, there be men doing that at any age.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, there. And like you said, I think there's just guys that are like that and guys that aren't. It's like, if you can handle it, you don't care. Because some women are so easy and they're like, couldn't care less. And then some people care. And I care deeply about that kind of stuff. And that would, like, bother me and annoy me and. Yeah, and the court, even corn. Like, some people are like, oh, yeah, I'm fine if it's casual. I'm like, I don't even like it if it's casual. I'm like that. I don't know. Like, I don't. I don't want to see. I don't want to know about it. Like, why? I don't know. To me, it's like, uncomfortable.

[Tana Mongeau]

So, so valid. And the more I think about it too, I could talk myself into feeling that way because it is like, why the. Watching someone else get. It's just like. Yeah, I think. I think if you really like this guy and you think he is emotionally intelligent and sound enough to hear you out and that there's a world to work past this, then you should bring it up to him because it's worth bringing it up. If you think he's never going to change, then you have to make that decision, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, that is a true. I'm thinking early on now that I'm thinking about dating. Early on, he was liking someone. Someone's photos of someone he, like, knew in real life and, like, maybe casually dated. And I was like, why the hell would you like that? We were like, to kind of together. We're not dating. And he, like, he really didn't think anything of it. He really was just like, oh, I don't know, like I just was like, like. And he, like, unfollowed her and everything right away, which is, like, great. I'm glad I brought it up, because now he knows. But, yeah, I truly do believe on that one, because this wasn't like, a corn star or, like, an Instagram model. It's like, a person he knew.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And so I think he knew. And he's like, okay, well.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I will say I saw this girl on Tick Tock who really changed my perspective a while ago where she was like, listen, like, you have to remember that men sometimes need things explained to them. And before you get all mad humor that even if it's just. Even if your boyfriend doesn't get you flowers enough, instead of being passive and mean about it, be like, I really like receiving flowers and receiving things that remind me that you like me. And a lot of times a man is just. They're men, you know, they're done. They're gonna be like, oh, okay, I'll get more flowers at the supermarket.

[Trisha Paytas]

This is another quick story. Real quick. But also the same thing. I think I told this on Gesture so many times, but, like, Valentine's Day, I remember our first one together, and we had, like, bought this house. We already bought a house together. And he, like, did nothing. And I was just like, I'm like. And I've been. I was single every Valentine's Day, except for maybe one. And, like, the person didn't do anything for me. So I've always been single. And I'm like, it's Valentine's Day. Like, you don't have anything planned. And it was like, the morning. So then by night, he's, like, scrambling to put something together. And then his excuse to this day is like, well, I thought. I didn't know he'd do something in the morning that was nighttime. But he did scramble for the nighttime, period. He doesn't know you're supposed to celebrate Valentine's Day. He's like, I didn't know that was a big thing. Now, every year, he makes it from the morning. From the minute I wake up, it's like, breakfast in bed, balloons downstairs, lights packages for me and Malibu. Okay, what are we doing for lunch? Okay, nighttime is going to be the lasagna. And this one now, we go so hard on it every year. But, like, period, period, sometimes you just got to say what you. What's important to you.

[Tana Mongeau]

I think it's important to voice what you want, because men sometimes do need that, you know? And it's. They don't know. And I Think I always even. Yeah. Valentine's Day is a perfect example. I've innately resorted to just immediately being like about something. And in reality, it's like, just maybe they need a little nudge.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

You know, the Instagram photos is on the fence of that. But, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right. But maybe he truly doesn't think it bothers you. Like, maybe he does think of it as just liking a photo of a girl he'll never see and, like, doesn't think.

[Tana Mongeau]

I think the ick really sets in when they start defending that.

[Trisha Paytas]

What? What?

[Tana Mongeau]

And I. I'm in a blanket statement say, I know some girls don't care, but if you're. A man is fighting for liking other Instagram photos, dump his. Right now. There's someone out there who literally doesn't even know how to use the app.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, exactly. What? Dump him. Did you. Oh, he has got to go. That's a podcast. He's got to go. He's got to go.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's so real. Like, I'm seeing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe not this one. Give him a chance first. Explain. But if he defends himself, then he's got to go. That's what I'm saying is crazy.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Or gaslighting being like, what? Like. Like, hey, that I hate so much.

[Tana Mongeau]

Because it's like, you are. Yeah. Men. Any man out there who has ever said, I just mindlessly like photos actually should. They should all just get together and.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Go away.

[Tana Mongeau]

Next question.

[Trisha Paytas]

Island. Island boys.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes, island boys.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not those island boys, but an island boy. I could see the Paul brothers on White Lotus. Like Logan on White Lotus. He seems like a White Lotus kind of person.

[Tana Mongeau]

Very White Lotus.

[Trisha Paytas]

Jake has too many tattoos. I think they have tattoos on White Lotus. I don't think so. They cover them. Okay.

[Tana Mongeau]

Wow. That's a fun game, though, playing like, who could be on White Lotus and who couldn't see my king on White Lotus.

[Trisha Paytas]

Macking is the real life White Lotus.

[Tana Mongeau]

I couldn't see, like, whoa. I could really, like, we could do this.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, David. No, he's not the White Lotus vibe.

[Tana Mongeau]

That laugh. Yeah, that laugh is not giving White Lotus.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, they wouldn't let you in, but.

[Tana Mongeau]

The other one Laugh. Okay, who am I to. I'm just. Come on. Give me a call or D before.

[Trisha Paytas]

I say more stupid.

[C]

Hi, Trisha and Tana. So this is probably going to get screened out because it's not about sex or dating. It's actually about narcissistic parents. But, Tana, since you've talked about that on podcast episodes, I Was wondering if you could answer this. What do I do if my aunt, who's related to my mom and who I love dearly and who has been more of a mom to me than my actual narcissistic mom, is constantly trying to pressure me to talk to my mom again? It really hurts. And she won't believe my side of the story and I wonder if I have to cut her off too. Love you both so much and yeah, bye.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, I love her and I just want to give her a hug so bad. Dude. Oh my gosh.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like so sweet about her too.

[Tana Mongeau]

I think it's hard because, like, societally and generationally, you see this a lot less in like our generation and like just the newer ones. But like those generations, it was so ingrained in people's brains and just societally, it still is. Where people's first response to that is, well, they're your family, they're your blood. And I've had people say that to me so much and eventually I've. There are people in my life that are close to me where I had to kind of drill into their brain, like it does not matter. Right? Like it's. You know what I mean? Like, and I don't blame those people for saying that because a lot of times people grow up with better relationships with their family and they can't. They'll never be able to fully have lived. Your perspective, you know, where it's like, this is a non negotiable whether I'm related to this person or not. They don't make me feel like blood, they don't make me feel like family, they don't make me feel good. And it's never going to change. It's. I don't think people often realize as well, like nobody wants to cut off their family member. You're. No one's just gonna wake up one day on a Wednesday and say, you know what I mean, they left the dishes out one time too many.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

So goodbye. Right. Like you're cutting off a family member. If you have, have tried everything, if you have gotten to the 1000th time and you, you, unfortunately you can't change people, especially people who don't want to change. And living in that wraparound is hell. Like I'm just hoping and hoping and hoping someone's going to change and trying to change them or whatever. It's. You can't even live your own life because then you're trying to like, you know, dedicate yourself to this. And I just feel for you because it's like someone that you love and you want to like, you know, get along with and vibe, but they won't stop harping on this thing that you're definitive on. I would if you maybe if you believe there's a world where she can change her mind, you know, send her some good pieces of writing, some good things that maybe she could read up on. On no contact and try to educate herself.

[Trisha Paytas]

The ant.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. You know, and maybe try to help her understand that this is a non negotiable and have that conversation. I mean, you could always just have the same response, you know, just not humor it in the conversations with her any longer and protect your boundaries in that way. I don't want to resort to just immediately cutting someone off, you know, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

Honestly, sometimes, like I never had this issue and I know I was always the person. It's like, it's your family try. And I've been that like for so many people because like I've always been able to try my family. And then they do turn around and it's like, okay, it's great. I'm glad we have some family connection, whatever. But it wasn't until I knew someone else I was going through that and like, same thing got where it's like. But then other people would try to chime in and like come through me and be like, okay, really need to talk to this person. And then I really got it and I was like, oh my God. You kind of have to cut off everyone who won't stop asking about it because it's like they don't fully, like you can't fully get it unless you're the actual person. Even someone really close to me, I can't fully get it because I'm not fully that person until you're that person. And like you said, you tried for beyond me decades, you know, also like that, like trying to get it through and you're just like at some point, so someone else even telling you, you. That's why I just had to like stop. I was like, you know what? Okay, you know what? Because someone else telling you like you said is. And it sucks because she's so close with her aunt. It's like her mom, it's like her second mom.

[Tana Mongeau]

Basically think I can't stress this enough. People think that they're saying and doing the right thing. They love you. It's. You have to understand it's not coming from a place of they're not trying to hurt you and upset you when.

[Trisha Paytas]

They say that, you know, Trying to help. They're trying to mend their. And everyone thinks they can mend. Mine are always like, friendships too. Like, everyone thinks they can mend. And it's like, sometimes things don't need mending and I don't want it to mend. And you feel so much better. Well, obviously, you know more than anyone when, like, you just feel so much better when you're just not talking to that person and it's like, oh, and people don't get it. They can't grasp it.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, it's just. It is like, really tough because it's like, I totally get that situation. And I hope you can work it out with your aunt and you have to kind of decide how much her persisting affects you. I do have people in my life to this day that I love that will still try to, you know, like, slip that in now and again and be like, yeah, what if you did? And I. I'm able to just kind of be like, no. It's like, I stand on what I believe in. I respond accordingly. And what they're saying doesn't bother me because I understand their perspective.

[Trisha Paytas]

But they. Alcoholic, where you're like, just a sip, just a little bit one time. It's not that, you know, it's like that stuff is like, so bad because going to make the decision, go non contact is like, Would be so hard. And then I feel. I would assume it would get easier a little bit every day.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, it gets easier, but it's. There is always the hard part. I think I. I was talking about this recently. It's. It's an unfillable void that you have to just become okay with, you know, like, nothing's ever going to fill the void of my parents, you know, because. Because they're my parents. Like, I can. And I tried for so long. I think forgiveness is also so important. Like, I fully forgive them. And I think everyone. You'll get to that point in no contact and stuff where you forgive them. You don't want to harbor resentment and stuff. And maybe that's your response to your aunt where you're like, look, I forgive her and I wish her nothing but the best, but this is toxic for me in my life. You know, maybe she's cut someone off and you can try to give her that comparison or, I don't know, it's hard. I wish nothing but the best. But both answers are correct. If you have to cut her off as well, then you have to do what makes you happy in this life.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, you got a Hard boundary on that. Like, if you don't stop, like, that's gonna be like, actually driving me nuts.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Because some people, if I did have someone really close to me, I think that every day was trying to get me to like, call my father and be cool with him and hang out. I. I probably would have to eventually get to the point where it's like, hey, I don't want to talk to you. No. Right. Like, you know, it's like, it's not gonna happen. So that's hard. And I just, I feel for you so much. Do as much reading as you can about it. And there's so many. I'm never promoting Reddit except for when it's for that the no contact, narcissistic parents read it. So nice to know there's so many people out there that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Or like fan theories like White Lotus or like Desperate Housewives where there's always like, theory. Oh, God, they're so smart on Reddit sometimes.

[Tana Mongeau]

They are. They are. Honestly, I like Reddit when it's not like pop culture or when it's not about me, I guess.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, but it's not. Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Or negative, I guess. I like it when it's like, for the positive, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

And people like, stop to mend relationships too. I think when someone asks, like, what do you think I should do? Should I do you know what I mean? Someone asked for your opinion. People trying to amend. Like you said, it's always good intentions. I was. I try to be a mender, but it does kind of. You don't.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. And it's, it is just like I said, societally, it's like, you know what I mean? I feel like I didn't even know about other people going no contact and it being such a big thing until I was like 22, you know, and I wish I knew about that, that when I was. Or narcissistic parents or all those things, you know, it's. You just have to remember that her generation as well. Just societally, it's hard for people to wrap their heads around that you don't want to talk to your parents. But I don't think that people deserve the right to abuse you and be awful just because they're your parents. You know, it's like period on that. And then it's just like, that's what she needs to get through her head. But it's not your job. And whatever decision you make, you will find a peace and a new normal and a half, happy life and future. And I love you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Beautiful. That Was good.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's true.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that one. Good luck. Yeah. Yeah. You're giving advice to everyone. Everyone needed to hear.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's more common than you think. It's funny how many people now I have conversations with who had to do the same thing, you know, and it's. Yeah, it's hard because sometimes you always want to hold people accountable with them in your life, especially family. But sometimes the truest form of accountability is no longer receiving. Giving access to you, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Yeah, that's a big one.

[Tana Mongeau]

Especially people who can't take accountability, which goes hand in hand with.

[Trisha Paytas]

And a lot of times it's for themselves. Sometimes like the narcissist or whatever thinks you're like, doing it to them. Like, it's like something about them. And it's like, I need this for me. Like, I need to like, live my life and not have you, like gaslight me and all this other.

[Tana Mongeau]

I see that all the time. Narcissistic parents being like, you're so cold. How can you do this to me? And it's like, no, you're abusing me. And this is your final.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Grab to try to guilt me back into a relationship with you where I'm the victim. And it's like, like, no, no, no. Not in 2025, baby. I'll never get the out of my piece. We all only have one life, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I like your voice. It kind of got raspy there.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, I sound like my father.

[Trisha Paytas]

Raspy voice.

[Tana Mongeau]

I see. I mean, yeah, my parents. My parents were big smokers. Cigarettes. We eat all of it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, really?

[Tana Mongeau]

And now here I am hitting the vape. I still you.

[Trisha Paytas]

It just had a raspiness now, I think cuz you just like had your little monologue. So I feel like it like you use so much of your voice, but it sounds cute when it's like, raspy.

[Tana Mongeau]

I am a raspy girl.

[Trisha Paytas]

I like it. I didn't notice it. I don't think that's cute. Yeah, I like it.

[Tana Mongeau]

You have like a cute, sweet voice. I have a deep.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, when you do that, it's not. It was a cute rasp. That's cute.

[Tana Mongeau]

We all want what we can't have, you know, because even when I hear like Miley Cyrus have a raspy voice, I'm like, that's so hot.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, Jennifer Coolage, Gabby, Wendy. Like, anyone who has like a raspy voice, like, that sounds so cute.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. But then when it's me, I'm like, oh, my God, Dana.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, you sound cute too. You're one of those girls.

[Tana Mongeau]

I love you.

[Trisha Paytas]

One more question. We're crushing the questions.

[Tana Mongeau]

We are so talented. We are so hardworking. Dr. Drew is somewhere shaking. He's doing just fine.

[Trisha Paytas]

Dr. Drew on here is crazy. When I think about that, like, that dynamic is so crazy.

[Tana Mongeau]

We have to do it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, no, that'd be fun. I'm excited for all of them. J. My mom.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, we'll just keep talking about it. Never do it. It's just going to be us forever.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, it's like getting the couch over. But, like, once we do it, we'll just, like, make sure we book a bunch of. Bunch of guests in one row so we don't, like, move it back and forth.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm excited to hear other people because in my head, I'm like, no one could give better advice than us. Like, when in reality, like, I love.

[Trisha Paytas]

Hearing other people's advice because actually, we're quite similar in how we think sometimes. But it's always so funny to hear someone like. Like a Dr. Drew who's, like, actually educated in this and like, oh, my. Oh, my God. That's actually makes so much sense. Like, you know, like, how to fix a relationship more than just, like, dump him, which I love that always.

[Tana Mongeau]

But I love psychology, though, so it. It will be interesting.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's so smart.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

My favorite guest. I like, I want him all. I wanted to do a podcast with him, and I was just like. But, yeah, it didn't work out. I was like, I'll build a set in my house. Like, I love him.

[Tana Mongeau]

He is everything. Honestly, I don't know his lore, like, deep like that. Just anytime I've seen anything, I'm like, he's an icon.

[Trisha Paytas]

You never watched his, like, celebrity rehab shows?

[Tana Mongeau]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Those are so good. They were, like, on VH1, and it's like, one.

[Tana Mongeau]

Reality shows were so good.

[Trisha Paytas]

Then he had, like, a sex rehab one for, like, sex addicted celebrities. Like, oh, yeah. And he would be in Pasadena and he was, like, giving counselor counseling to them.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's all in Pasadena.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

I feel like all the rehabs, the good ones are impossible.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. That's where all the houses are and everything. It's so interesting. And that's wild. He's my favorite person. And he drives out this way from Pasadena.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm gonna watch that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. It's so. Oh, my God. Those shows. That was like, early 2000s.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's like, celebrity. And being willing to go on a sex rehab reality television show is like, I need to see who was down.

[Trisha Paytas]

For that, Yeah, I can't even remember now, but it was rough. Like some of those suburbs, especially the ones that were coming off of like heroin and stuff, I was like, holy. They were like celebrities.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. You're down to like. That's wild. That takes balls. That takes courage.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Who needs what? What's our final call?

[Trisha Paytas]

Hi, Taylor and Trish.

[C]

I was just calling to get some advice about self love.

[Trisha Paytas]

So my whole life I grew up with this thing called alopecia. So I kind of sometimes don't like look put together and my hair falls out and I have bald patches and whatever. But I found in love with my life. Life. And I'm getting married in about a.

[C]

Year and a half and I was just wondering how I should go about feeling better about.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sorry.

[C]

Oh my God, how I look.

[Trisha Paytas]

Thank you.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, I love you so much. And I can't thank you enough for being so vulnerable with us and wanting our advice and oh, my heart aches that people and we all feel this way, you know, I feel like you and I just had. Had. It was on Patreon, I think, but a big conversation about how much social media and even just with this guy liking photos and stuff, it's a perfect example. But we were talking about how like I opened Tick Tock and by the time I closed the app, I've compared myself to 19 people and I feel so not okay with who I am and I want to change everything about myself and whatever. And comparison is just so rampant in today's media consumption, you know, and that can be a big thing. And going through something like that's also really hard, you know, like alopecia. That is hard. Hard. But it's like you found this person. Mokoa helped me a lot. And you never want to accredit your self love to someone else loving you. I think that it does have to come from within. But I hope that you will see yourself how he sees you and how your friends see you and how everyone who loves you sees you. And I just think that you have to remember as well that whenever you see something unique on someone else, you automatically are thinking, that's so unique. They're so different. That's so cool. Like I'm never remembering how someone looks. I'm remembering how they acted. I'm remembering all of the amazing things, you know, that I like, love about people.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Versus like no one. You're your own worst and your harshest critic and you are so beautiful for the way you are, you know, and it's. Oh God, I Just hope she knows that, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I agree with all that for sure. And I think if there is any, like, insecurity, it's like, alopecia with the hair. I weirdly like, there's a lot of girls that come to my concert without usually, like, tell me they have alopecia and they'll, like, wear, like, wigs. And I love a wig, you know, I'm a wig queen. So if you're really feeling, like, insecure for yourself, like your wedding. Yeah. There's no doubt your man loves you as is, like, you know what I mean? Like, no matter what you look like and stuff like that. But if there is any insecurities, I mean, they make great wigs, you know what I mean?

[Tana Mongeau]

That's so true. And that's almost like a whole fun new thing, right? Like, trying all these different looks and turning a negative that you feel is a negative. It's not a negative, but you know what I mean? Into a positive.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, there's solutions for it. You know, it's like, for anything, and. But it's only if you want to. And I like, you know, there's different levels of it, but I love going with. No, there was a girl. It's a clip from my Detroit show, and she literally had her wig off, and I was like, oh, my God, I love that you just took your wig off and she. Alopecia. She, like, screamed, it's not belongs. I was like, oh, my God, slay. And I was actually super familiar because I said it. It was early on in my tour and then so many other people coming. I should probably look up alopecia, like, what this is, and I didn't know about it, and, like, yeah, of course. That'd be tough, right? You think, like, your hair, you're so dependent on it, right? Like, oh, my God, that's like, my beauty. Whatever, whatever.

[Tana Mongeau]

But some of some of the most beautiful women in the world should buzz their head, too, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

And it's like, you could rock that for sure.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, you got that gorgeous face, I'm sure. And, like, just find the things about yourself where you're like, you know what? I really do like my lips. I really do like my eyes and play it up, do some crazy makeup do. Just try to focus on the things that you do love. And I struggle with this. We all do. I think we live in a society that's doomed, right? Like, Jaclyn Hill posted a video the other day where she was just talking about, like, the beauty standard and how much it does just get to her how she opened up tick tock. And immediately sees this girl who is clearly altered in every single way. And all the comments are like, body is tea. You're so hot. You're so this. And like, it's just not real life. Like walk around in the real world and look at people and just people are so unique and beautiful, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

And we, we talked about this at the first episode of the day is just like even going to the airport, people will be like, if I have like my hair or whatever, like if I'm wearing like glue from the day before. And like, do you want to fix it? Do you want to wear it? And I'm just like, why? Like there is something embracing. I call it ugly. It's not ugly, obviously, but just embracing how I am. And it's like, I don't know, it's like, yeah, there's glue in my hair. Who gives a. You know what I mean? Like, I'm comfortable. And we were saying how like we just like to be free. Like, just like I just want to be comfortable. There's so much in that. So like I said, you could wear a wig on your wedding day if you feel like that's going to make you happy. But also there's something just freeing about being free. Buzz it, don't buzz it. You know, have some patches, like it doesn't matter. And if people care and if people ask about it, like, screw them. Like, that's so weird. Like I'm comfortable as is, you know?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. And it's like there's probably something on you right now that some girl somewhere is so jealous that she doesn't have and is so envious, you know, like, I don't have her eyes, I don't have her eyelashes, I don't have her body, I don't have her smile, I don't have her this. And we all just kind of innately do that as well. Women. Because we're taught that we need to look and be a certain way. And in reality, like, you know, yeah, you're hitting the nail on the head when you're saying like, just embrace. And we all need to be better about that. And it's, it's almost something just like all good habits that especially with the way today's society is that we have to actively train our brains and remember to do and love yourself and embrace yourself as is because society wants the exact opposite.

[Trisha Paytas]

People always say, like, you know, you're never grateful for your health until you don't have it. You Know, and so. Right. Like, obviously you're going through something, like, traumatic to you, and it's like, yeah, like, losing your hair would be really scary, but, you know, not to compare. But you're just like, well, at least I have, like, my health. At least it's, like, not cancer that's causing me to lose the hair. You know what I mean? So it's like, you know, what if you have cancer? Like, there's just other things. It's like you're beating it, you're surviving it. You're here. You know, there's always just. And this is obviously easy, just easier for me to say since I haven't gone through this stuff. But I just. I try and think that way. I was like, well, okay, I have this. I have this. You know, just try and be thankful for what you have, which is always easier said than done.

[Tana Mongeau]

And just remain positive. And I swear to God, affirmations, too, have just really been changing my life these days. Because it's. When you say it, even if you do not believe it, it will. You're going on the track, right? You're. You're driving down the path now of believing it. Even if you are on step one and you're looking in the mirror and you're saying, I am so hot. I'm so gorgeous. Everybody wants me. I'm beautiful. This is the look, okay? These could never. Even if you don't mean any of it, if you keep saying that every day, you are eventually going to start to own that more, you know, And.

[Trisha Paytas]

And it's so true.

[Tana Mongeau]

Easier said than done. We all struggle, and it's hard, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

An affirmation can be easy. Like you said, even if you don't believe it, just say it until.

[Tana Mongeau]

Until something resonates with you and helps you to. You know what I mean? Try to grow in that way.

[Trisha Paytas]

And it kind of does. If you say it enough, you just kind of resonate, you know, if you just write it down. I always used to write down, like, I'm rich, I'm healthy, I'm this, you know, just like, whatever I've been writing. I'm skinny for a while and it hasn't worked, but maybe one day I will. The other ones are working, working out for me. Maybe it's. I don't believe it yet. I think I'd also believe it. So start believing it.

[Tana Mongeau]

But I. I mean, it's so true, though. It is definitely so true to, like, just try to make yourself believe. I've been doing that a lot lately. Like, this is gonna sound so weird, but I've just been staring at myself in the mirror at length a lot longer than I normally have, because I think that we just go through life so fast, and we just look at all these things that we could be, and we're not like the human, the skin we're in, the shell that we're in, that's you. And you forget that sometimes. You know, like Mel Robbins says that the only person you go through life with from birth to death is you. And I was watching her talk about that, and she was essentially saying, so you have to be kinder. Like, the person who you are really holding your hand with birth through death is the only person is you. And it's like, you know, it's just. Yeah, you might not always believe it at first, but please just be kind.

[Trisha Paytas]

Of be kind to yourself, because everyone else will try and tear you down. If you're kind to yourself and you're good with yourself, you're going to be good. That's all.

[Tana Mongeau]

You've got this man who loves you for you. You're getting married.

[Trisha Paytas]

Getting married.

[Tana Mongeau]

Life is good, period.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know how many girls are wishing they could find a man and get married? You know, you've already won. You're beating half of the world out there. So.

[Tana Mongeau]

And it's just, please, just focus on all the good and, like, even just her being vulnerable enough to call in. And I want to say this to everybody who's calling in, struggling with anything, even if we don't get to your call, call. I think that people are always saying, I want to change. But if you're calling in and asking for advice, that already means you. You are changing. Yeah, you want, like, you are on step one of changing. It's not just like, oh, I want to love myself. You are loving yourself by placing that call. And what. And researching it and looking into it more, you know, so it's like you're doing it and just keep doing it. And I love you. And I love you, too. Congratulations. Yay.

[Trisha Paytas]

We love you. Yeah. Congrats. Can't wait to see the wedding photos. You're gonna look so wow.

[Tana Mongeau]

I know. It's like, oh, my God. And no one else will be thinking of all the negative things you're thinking. They're just gonna think how beautiful you and your husband look and your gorgeous dress or where you're getting married or your vows or, you know, we are so much more than just the skin that we're in. We are also our mind. You know, like, if I watched a video of a girl saying beautiful vows about her love. I'm not sitting there thinking about any of her looks. I'm listening to her words. You know, not.

[Trisha Paytas]

People actually, like, appreciate uniqueness more, too, when it's not just, like, everyone's beauty standard. You know what I mean? People are just like, wait, this is so beautiful. This is so lovely. And I know people want to see that. So, so true love that.

[Tana Mongeau]

Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yay. Thanks for listening. Yeah. Watching you.

[Tana Mongeau]

And thank you to everybody who calls in. I'm serious. I'm just. So many girlies to be proud of out there.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. Oh, my God. Same.

[Tana Mongeau]

I feel like a mom today. I feel like a mother to all the crazy girls, I always say, that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Said, I always want to be a mom. And I was like, I didn't realize I had so many children out there because they'll come up to the show. Like, you raised me, like, oh, you know what? I was a mother before I was a mother.

[Tana Mongeau]

So are you. Oh, that's so beautiful. Wow. We're sentimental today. That was beautiful. It's like we are. That, like, touched my heart.

[Trisha Paytas]

I just want to see all the clips of us. Just think we're hardworking, we're sentimental.

[Tana Mongeau]

We're. We're.

[Trisha Paytas]

Look at us.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes. We're affirming ourselves, period. Okay, we love you guys, and thank you for calling. We're going to head over to the Patreon and go on whatever the exact opposite.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, we're gonna get raunch.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, I'm ready. I'm ready. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love you guys.

[Tana Mongeau]

We love you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Patreon.com not loveliness.