MY BOYFRIEND WAS IN BED WITH HIS SISTER!?!? | NOT LOVELINE Ep 68

Summary

Not Loveline Ep. 68 – "MY BOYFRIEND WAS IN BED WITH HIS SISTER!?!?"

Hosts: Tana Mongeau & Trisha Paytas
Date: May 11, 2026

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Overview

In this episode, Tana and Trisha return after a month-long break for a classic, chaotic Not Loveline ride. They’re joined in the first third by Moses McCoy and Makoa Moses for listener advice—especially on femininity and gender roles—before diving deep into what’s new: podcast launches, book details, Vegas show prep, influencer drama, and, of course, spicy advice calls including the “boyfriend in bed with his sister” dilemma. The episode is packed with classic Trish & Tana banter, honest reflections, and the bubbly, oversharing tone fans love.

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Key Segments & Insights

1. Special Guests: Moses & Makoa on Embracing Femininity

[03:13–11:39]

Caller Q: "Any advice on embracing femininity? I’m a mechanic who loves getting girly sometimes—help!"

• Moses’ Take:
  • “When you’re really masculine, you can be feminine.” [04:06, Moses]
  • Comfortable with his own feminine side (e.g., driving Trisha’s pink car).
• Makoa’s Perspective:
  • Carries a purse to Coachella, no problem—“It’s not a big deal. But at least make it Balenciaga.” [04:20, Moses]
  • Raised in a house full of women, so feminine energy feels natural.
• Practical Tips:
  • Bedazzle your tools, let yourself relax after work, let men do “the masculine stuff” to let yourself feel feminine at home.
  • “Go home and just lay and attract that divine femininity.” [07:13, Tana]
  • Ask for favors once you’re in bed—"Wait till he’s comfortable, then ask for four favors." [08:08, Trisha]
• Panel Consensus:
  • Femininity’s about balance—not only how you look, but how you rest and let yourself be taken care of sometimes.
  • “Sometimes your femininity is also not necessarily directly tied to, like, makeup... it can be tied to doing the relaxing thing at night.” [06:29, Trisha]

Memorable Moment:

• “That’s why I don’t listen [to Not Loveline]. I think it’s better that I don’t know what she says.” [03:01, Moses]

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2. Return from Hiatus: Catching Up & Upcoming Projects

[12:22–29:00]

• Why the Break?
  • Both have been slammed: Coachella, vacations, Adam Sandler moments, business moves.
  • “When it starts getting into three and four [weeks], I’m like, I need my girl.” [13:05, Trisha]
• Vegas Show Announcement:
  • June 12th at The Chelsea in the Cosmopolitan.
  • “I’ve been meeting a lot of girls at Coachella... saying ‘I can’t wait for Vegas.’” [14:05, Trisha]
• Podcast/Book News:
  • Trisha is launching a new podcast—name unrevealed but inspired by fans.
  • “I’ve just been very, very particular about what I want and... to protect my peace.” [17:44, Trisha]
  • Tana set to be an early guest.
• Working Style Reflections:
  • Both proud of being “women with vision”—glad society’s more ready for clear, driven female creators. [15:01, Trisha]
  • “You can be in your masculine and feminine; it’s just energy.” [15:18, Tana]

Notable Quote:

• “If we were married to two seasoned podcasters, it wouldn’t last… Even the thought of it makes me want to die.” [15:42, Trisha]

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3. Podcast-Building, Set Design, & Behind the Scenes

[29:00–34:37]

• The Vision for Trisha’s New Show:
  • “I want my podcast to feel like you’re in my phone... my notes app, my tangents, my texts with best friends.” [19:54, Trisha]
  • Dream office/set being built. Isabella is designing, Dripdome is building.
  • Running into office and construction delays, but excited for “King Kylie era.”
• Businesswoman Era:
  • Excited to talk about being a businesswoman and the industry back-end on her new show.
  • “Taking myself seriously as a businesswoman...” [29:19, Trisha]
• Creative Inspiration:
  • Trisha’s team carefully chosen for trust, creativity, and inspiration.
• TikTok’s Long-Form Frustration:
  • “It’s like, you need a damn podcast.” [19:53, Tana]

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4. Influencer & Pop Culture Drama Deep Dive

[34:37–54:49]

Alex vs. Alex, Reality TV, & PR Stunts

• Alex Cooper & Alex Earle:
  • Team-up (and fallout) discussed—was it always a business mismatch?
    • “It’d be like you owning me. Let’s just be powerhouses together.” [37:43, Trisha]
  • Explores how female drama is treated differently than male business drama.
• PR Stunt Analysis:
  • Both admit to past attention-grabbing stunts (“I was, like, carrying snakes on the carpet...”). [44:02, Trisha]
  • Now see value in “calm,” hope-core storytelling and honest reflection.
• Book Writing Insights:
  • Both prepping or finishing memoirs.
  • The value of writing with honesty, self-awareness, and letting things go: “Now, if people ever ask me about anything in the future, I can just be like, it’s in the book.” [56:31, Tana]

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5. Listener Calls: The “Boyfriend Was in Bed with His Sister” Dilemma

[81:31–86:38]

The Call:

A listener’s boyfriend (32) cuddled and kissed his 19-year-old sister on the head in bed. The caller feels uneasy and asks if she’s being weird or if that’s actually an issue.

• Trisha’s Reaction:
  • “My immediate reaction to this call was eugh… but maybe my perspective’s skewed.” [84:09]
  • Recognizes some families are affectionate, but also, “I don’t know… cuddle in bed is weird” for adult siblings.
• Tana’s Input:
  • Admits she has a distant relationship with her own brother, so it’s hard to judge.
  • Compares it to controversial practices like kissing kids on the lips—“people make things weird when they’re weird, I feel.” [84:09, Tana]
• Advice:
  • “All it takes is an open conversation… if you’re with the right partner and you say, ‘this makes me uncomfortable’, he’ll adjust.” [85:16, Trisha]
  • Normalize asking for clarity about family dynamics; trust your own boundaries.

Notable Quote:

• “My initial reaction was ‘ew’. But maybe it’s innocent—maybe I’m just skewed.” [85:09, Tana]

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6. Upcoming: Vegas Show, Future Projects, Miscellaneous Kiki

[86:42–90:14]

• Both hyped for their joint Vegas show; rehearsal plans, setlists, and the possibility of new music teased.
• Trisha planning an all-new EP (prefers new to old music), Tana to cover some of Trisha’s classics.
• Quality time and creative collaborations celebrated—“I love that we’re so aligned.” [79:49, Tana]
• Joy over food deals (Chili’s, Jack in the Box), and a prayer for a joint restaurant partnership.
• Discussion of influencer house swapping (“If I could find a little influencer girl who’s like me, house swap in New York, I would 100% do it.” [68:08, Trisha])
• Reflections on career gratitude, friendship, and being equipped to handle wild times as grown women.

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Memorable Quotes

• “Go home and just lay and attract that divine femininity.” [07:13, Tana]
• “Femininity is also about doing the relaxing thing at night.” [06:29, Trisha]
• “If we were dating or married to two other seasoned podcasters, it wouldn’t last. Even the thought of it makes me want to die.” [15:42, Trisha]
• “You can be in your masculine and feminine; it’s just energy.” [15:18, Tana]
• “My immediate reaction to this call was eugh.” [84:09, Trisha]
• “Sometimes all it takes is an open conversation.” [85:16, Trisha]

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Episode Structure at a Glance

| Segment | Topic | Timestamp | |-------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------|--------------| | Welcome & guest banter | Moses & Makoa segment, TikTok, femininity advice | 00:57–11:39 | | Catching up | Break, Vegas show, podcast updates | 12:22–29:00 | | Building a podcast empire | Office/set design, businesswoman era | 29:00–34:37 | | Influencer drama & memoirs | Alex vs Alex, PR, book writing | 34:37–54:49 | | Listener advice | Boyfriend-in-bed-with-sister call | 81:31–86:38 | | Vegas show prep & wrap-up | Plans, shopping, gratitude, career reflection | 86:42–end |

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Tone & Final Thoughts

The episode is energetic, chatty, and as tangent-filled as ever, blending heartfelt advice, pop culture analysis, and behind-the-scenes looks at the duo’s biggest projects. Both hosts are refreshingly real about their growth, insecurities, and ambitions—delivering empathy with a dose of chaos in true Not Loveline fashion.

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Transcript

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Tana Mongeau]

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[Trisha Paytas]

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[Tana Mongeau]

Watch only on Prime.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, why does David do still have my location? That's not the bleep. Okay, but like, I just. I. I didn't realize like Bryce hall has my location. I was. Harry Josie has my location. Alex Warren has my location.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, can you stop it?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. I just never have gone and look. But anyways, I like look at the location, I look at my text and I find out. And this is the bleep. I find out. Staying in the same hotel as me,

[Moses McCoy]

we finally get the chance to tell our story.

[Makoa Moses]

Yeah. Now it's. Now it's our turn.

[Moses McCoy]

They've been talking about us here for so long. Actually, you remember what really happened that night?

[Makoa Moses]

Oh, of course. Yeah. No, it's. It's time to really reveal what's. What's.

[Tana Mongeau]

Do you know, Nicole? How about. Do you ever watch?

[Trisha Paytas]

That's so funny.

[Makoa Moses]

Aside from like the Patreon.

[Moses McCoy]

Welcome to Loveline. Not Loveline. Sorry. You know. So I saw you got a new tick tock.

[Makoa Moses]

Oh my God.

[Moses McCoy]

It's like the best thing in the world.

[Makoa Moses]

Thank you so much.

[Moses McCoy]

Died and woke up again and again and again. It's like I don't know how I lived before that. TikTok.

[Makoa Moses]

Right. Of course. It was incredible. No, it was truly actually something out of a movie and I just. Oh my God. Yes. Like the. The show we have on June 12th in Vegas is really just gonna. Just gonna knock socks off. Really.

[Moses McCoy]

I've been gagged for days.

[Makoa Moses]

Yes. Gagged for days. For truly. Yes. It's keeping me up at night. True. Like T. Yes. T. T. Clock it. Clock it. Queen.

[Moses McCoy]

Well, that's our show for you guys.

[Trisha Paytas]

All right.

[Tana Mongeau]

Thank you.

[Makoa Moses]

Thank you, thank you. Yes, yes. Appreciate it.

[Tana Mongeau]

I love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I wasn't ready because Devin knows a viral moment yes. Devin's over there plotting. Oh, my God, this is awesome. You should come to work all the time.

[Moses McCoy]

Bring your husband to work there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Tana Mongeau]

I just like that.

[Makoa Moses]

I like how you put the. You guys put the knot in front of them.

[Moses McCoy]

That's clever.

[Tana Mongeau]

I like that we had the makoa. What do we have somewhere?

[Makoa Moses]

I'm squishing it right now.

[Tana Mongeau]

You're always here in spirit.

[Trisha Paytas]

You are always here in spirit. And you're talked about a lot.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes, all the time.

[Moses McCoy]

That's why I don't listen. I think it's better that I don't know what she says.

[Trisha Paytas]

Them both. Never listening to not Loveline is. It makes me feel safe.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, same.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because, like, we really do. We say a lot.

[Tana Mongeau]

Can say anything. All right, we got one. All right.

[Caller]

Hi, Tina and Trisha. I was just wondering if you guys had any advice on kind of embracing your femininity. My boyfriend and I have been dating for a long time now, and something about putting on a cute outfit, doing my nails, doing my hair, doing my makeup. It just makes me feel so confident. And I just love doing it not only for myself, but, like, for him and just kind of embracing that with him. But I'm a mechanic, and I never really grew up with, like, a solid mother figure in my life to show me that femininity. And so that's kind of something I struggle with because even though I love the confidence that it brings, I was just wondering if you guys had any advice. I love you so much.

[Trisha Paytas]

We love you.

[Tana Mongeau]

I love this question. This is a great one for you guys.

[Trisha Paytas]

All right, boys.

[Moses McCoy]

Well, somebody that drove a pink Rolls Royce for a while.

[Tana Mongeau]

Moses always drove my pink car. You're very feminine in a great way. You tap into your feminine a lot

[Moses McCoy]

when you're really masculine. You can be feminine.

[Makoa Moses]

I will agree with that.

[Moses McCoy]

Cuz we're not afraid.

[Makoa Moses]

Yeah, I feel like I can, like, carry around a purse and, like, not even think twice about it. Like, when I'm. It's not like a. Yeah, well, it depends.

[Moses McCoy]

It has to be at least Balenciaga

[Makoa Moses]

or good Chevy at minimum.

[Moses McCoy]

Yeah, of course.

[Tana Mongeau]

Of course.

[Moses McCoy]

I don't know about Birkins, though. Not my style.

[Makoa Moses]

They're my style.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's very Jacob Elordi to carry a purse, too.

[Trisha Paytas]

I've been, oh, my God, we were at Coachella, okay. And there's this basketball player that, like, Makoa that we know about, and he always carries a Birkin and we see him at Coachella and I was like, babe, why wouldn't you tell him that he's your merce inspiration? And he was like, this didn't cross my mind. I was like, it's Jacob Elordi.

[Tana Mongeau]

What's his name?

[Trisha Paytas]

Caleb.

[Makoa Moses]

Caleb Williams. Caleb Williams play basketball.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I feel like the merce is back.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, yeah. We love immerse. It's. It's practical. It is. You carry one makoa?

[Makoa Moses]

I did for Coachella.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. You just got a Balenciaga merse.

[Makoa Moses]

I did.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, you were onto something with Balenciaga.

[Moses McCoy]

He knows.

[Makoa Moses]

He knows his stuff.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Makoa Moses]

Super tight.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's so funny because I also feel like they're both, like, men of, like, much less words. Everyone's of less words than us. Like, the not love lines. They would answer so many calls. Like, imagine they would get, like, like, 70 calls. Next question.

[Tana Mongeau]

That was so quick. But you also are good with the girls. You're very girl dad. You can, you know, do the makeup and the nails, and you're good with

[Trisha Paytas]

your little sister and stuff. I feel like you're gonna be a girl dad.

[Makoa Moses]

Yeah. I had me mom or. Yeah, me mom, sister, grandma, same house. I get it. I think I definitely get it.

[Tana Mongeau]

Growing up.

[Makoa Moses]

Yeah. Like, I had split parents, so I would spend a lot of time, like, at each house. So I feel like. I don't know, like, you just live in a house with all girls. Like, you. You get the. You get it. You know, saying it's. I've. Like, I get it.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's why you're so sweet and respectful. Yeah.

[Moses McCoy]

With girls also, you know, they're not. You saw what we did yesterday. They were, like, training for the circus. Like, we're not. We don't treat them like girls or boys. We just do what we do.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses McCoy]

I was putting hoops. They were jumping through the hoops.

[Trisha Paytas]

No way.

[Moses McCoy]

Next time we'll turn light them on fire.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait. I also want to come to that

[Moses McCoy]

because we got them hula hoops, and they can't do it yet. So I was like, okay, let's just put the hoops run. Jump through it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's cute.

[Tana Mongeau]

But the question was tapping into the feminine, right? Was that the question?

[Makoa Moses]

Yeah. She said she was a mechanic.

[Moses McCoy]

Bedazzled your tools.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Moses McCoy]

Right. Like, bedazzle you too.

[Trisha Paytas]

And it's hard to answer that because it's like, do you write like, that's where my head goes off? Like, do you want to put lip gloss on to fix the corn? Like, it's not good advice. I think it's about, I guess just balance you know what I mean? Just having those other moments. Because sometimes your femininity is also not necessarily directly tied to, like, makeup or image or self image. It can be tied to, like, doing the relaxing thing at night. I feel like they're both very good at, like, letting us tap into our feminine. When it just comes to, like, for me, at least, laziness, like, not doing anything.

[Tana Mongeau]

We just talked about this on Just Trish. Yes, yes, it's very much like. Because, like, tapping into your feminine. You can be guy or girl doing this. When you're just, like, laying around, it's attracting, like, what do we say on the podcast? It's like attracting the divine. Yeah, you're attracting the divine. So I'm attracting all the good, the wealth, the health, the happiness, because I'm just laying there and able to do it. And that's, like, what it is. So you're a mechanic, you're working hard, but go home and just lay and attract that divine femininity.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Moses McCoy]

And also, if you enter a relationship, let the guy do guy things, you know, let him take the trash out, let him do the stuff. Just chill, just be. Let him try. Fix his car and realize how awful he is.

[Tana Mongeau]

She in a relationship or she just wants to be more.

[Moses McCoy]

No, but I'm saying that's. That's another time she can find her feminine side is when there's somebody else there allowing her to be that, you know.

[Makoa Moses]

Yeah, put out. Put the. The masculine things on the man and, like, being able to be, like, come home from work, degrease, do all the things, and then, like, reset into, like, a different, different moment.

[Tana Mongeau]

And can I say, I feel like the masculine, too, is also very, like, washing dishes and cooking. Cause those are.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's dirty.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, you know, doing those pots and pans. It's grease. It's splattering up. So that can be a masculine thing, too. So also divert the cooking and the dishes, too, to your.

[Trisha Paytas]

Hey, you're fixing cars all day, girl. Ask for it. Okay. I think that it's really important. And you can attest to this to ask for a minimum of four favors once you've gotten into bed. And, like, wait till he's comfortable, too. I think that's really important. Wait till he's just really. His feet are kicked up.

[Makoa Moses]

I don't condone this.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's my favorite.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, you're so Malibu. What'd you say?

[Moses McCoy]

The minute I lay down, ready to sleep, she's like, dad, I'm thirsty.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, you can't be thirsty until the man is comfy. I'm sorry, I don't make the rules. That's just when the thirst happens.

[Tana Mongeau]

What else do you ask for? He said three things. You do the water. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's always lighting. It's always temperature.

[Makoa Moses]

Big temperature, temperature, lighting. Thirst quench. Sleep pills.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Magnesium. L. Cyanide. Let me sleep, let me sleep. Let me chill. And then, like, some form of massage.

[Makoa Moses]

Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, like, whatever that is. Last night, it was really hip focused. I was really like, get into the hip, and you got into the hip.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, my God. How come you don't massage my hips at night?

[Moses McCoy]

I would love to. Usually just fall asleep. She doesn't ask for anything.

[Trisha Paytas]

She is also good with her sleep. Like, I'm so insomniac that, like, that's really when my wheels start turning for all the things I want.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, you guys are gonna be good parents. The efficiency of it all is cute.

[Trisha Paytas]

It is cute. Yeah, I know. I feel like even hearing about you guys, like, with the little hoops and stuff like that. Be so fun. I feel like we're doing that with Buster right now. He's like our.

[Tana Mongeau]

He could jump through the hoops upstairs, too. Yeah.

[Makoa Moses]

Do a little experiment.

[Trisha Paytas]

All right. Kink. Oh, my God. I love you. Thank you for coming on. Not Loveline and not Love. Lining it up. Of course we're going to get into.

[Makoa Moses]

That's it. I thought it was seven hours.

[Moses McCoy]

They have seven hours to catch up on everything that happens.

[Makoa Moses]

Every second that we're doing this.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because we probably literally will not take one call. Like, we have Bella. We have Alex versus Alex Gate, which

[Makoa Moses]

we have so many heavy hitters.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. We have our van. We have a gift for you, too, on Lam Garner. Oh, my God. What?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, it's really. It's cute.

[Makoa Moses]

It's very sweet. Oh, my God, you're laying.

[Trisha Paytas]

I got my

[Tana Mongeau]

cause. Originally, I was like, I'm gonna do one. I'm like, oh, Santana needs one, too.

[Caller]

This was.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you know that in all the live photos, he's just talking to Mokoa, by the way. Oh, like, all the. I was playing the live photos, like, hoping that there was a moment of him and I talking, and it is just him and Mokoa.

[Tana Mongeau]

What did he. Oh, I have so many questions. What did he say to you so much?

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, we have.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's, like a whole episode, for sure.

[Moses McCoy]

It looks like a historical moment. Like, you guys are in Egypt in the pyramids, and you just found something.

[Tana Mongeau]

We dissected this so much. We're like, why is there no one in the background? When did this happen? Were you, like, waiting for him to go to the bathroom? Like, what is going on? Anyways, we can dissect it more, but we were like, I woke you up. It was like, 10:30 when he texted me, and I was like, moses, look at this photo. He's like, oh, I already saw it or something. I thought you were gonna see it.

[Makoa Moses]

He's tapped in.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Oh, it's when I came home from New York at, like, midnight, and I had seen it on the plane, and I was like, wake up. Like, Tana Adam Sandler, Trisha, I can't.

[Trisha Paytas]

And she did a Chili's deal. Do you even know? I might have heard, like, you're lying

[Tana Mongeau]

on the same day. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which means something.

[Caller]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, it has to mean that there's a reversal. I think I have, like, a whole.

[Tana Mongeau]

The destiny swap of it all. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I have a whole theory on how this is a destiny.

[Tana Mongeau]

I agree.

[Trisha Paytas]

And we have so much. Yeah. We're not taking one. But Moses, Makoa, thank you for hopping in. I think that Makoa really tapped into his femininity today. And, yeah, one day you guys are gonna do a whole episode about water where you take 73 calls.

[Makoa Moses]

Nice.

[Tana Mongeau]

Honestly, you guys should do a full episode. We'll be here.

[Trisha Paytas]

It would just be really calm. Like, I think that that's cool.

[Moses McCoy]

I don't know if you guys can listen.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, I don't think so.

[Moses McCoy]

We want to be able. We want to be able to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, we'll go like Chili.

[Tana Mongeau]

Absolutely.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's just them and Devin.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, actually, that would. That's better if we're not here, because Moses, I get so nervous when he talks on a microphone. I'm always like, ah.

[Moses McCoy]

She's scared of what I'm gonna say.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's a different person on a podcast.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I think that I almost. Like, I'm too Abby Lee Miller. Like, I'm too, like, stage mom. I'm like, do this, do this. And it's like, if I just let him do his thing, like, the better thing will be.

[Tana Mongeau]

I agree. That'll happen.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I make you Jojo Siwa.

[Makoa Moses]

I don't even know what that means.

[Trisha Paytas]

Thank you.

[Makoa Moses]

Not Loveline.

[Tana Mongeau]

Thank you.

[Moses McCoy]

Thank you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Now introducing Trisha Paytas and Tana Mongeau back in the podcast game after 30 days with much to talk about.

[Tana Mongeau]

Buckle in.

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel like Bruce Buffer today. Like, I feel like Bruce Buffer is, like, the old guy before the fights, like, the. Where he's like, now in the ring like, that. I feel like we need that type of introduction today because it has been 30 days, and we have so much to talk about.

[Tana Mongeau]

So much. I don't even know. I feel like it's almost like an episode per theme. Because you had Coachella, you have your Adam Sandler moment. You have, like, the New York trip, your podcast. Like, you're like, let's just talk about the podcast, Dad. I was like, oh, my gosh. There's so much. I really don't think we can get.

[Trisha Paytas]

Chili's Euphoria. Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

You have so much, too. We have so. And I just missed you. Like, I think that Two weeks. I get it. I'm like, we have busy schedules. Like, we're gonna go two weeks naturally. But when it starts getting into three and four, I'm like, four weeks. I need my girl. Like, I just. Everything starts reminding of, like, me of you. Reminding me of you, like, all the time. And, like, just the no one hits a kiki like us.

[Tana Mongeau]

I agree. I know. You would just text and be like, I love you. I was like, I love you. We'd be, like, literally up at the same hour, and I'm like, wow, this never happens. We're so aligned right now.

[Trisha Paytas]

We are so aligned right now.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's kind of everything. Well, you look great. Where do we even get started? Because, like, last time we started, I think it was, like, literally, like, St. Patrick's Day.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, not kidding.

[Trisha Paytas]

I hate it. I hate it, I hate it, I hate it. I'm excited because we're about to start spending a bunch of time because we have studio sessions for our Vegas show, and then we have, like, all the preparation.

[Tana Mongeau]

Also, we should say that. We should say our Vegas show. They're like, why don't you guys promote that? We literally talked about it once, and it was like, I know. And it's great. It's doing great. But, like, you guys need to do, like, one more promotion. So come see us June 12th at the Chelsea Cosmopolitan.

[Trisha Paytas]

I've been meeting a lot of girls at Coachella, even, and in public and just different stuff that are like, I can't wait for Vegas. I can't wait for the Vegas show. And then I'm, like, giving them tea, too. Like, I've been like. Which is not good, probably.

[Tana Mongeau]

Which is good, honestly, because I'm diverting everything to you because people. People. Oscar was pitching him and Paige and Molly opening. I mean, you have to ask our creative director, Tana. I don't know what the Show. I do know the show is. I feel like you. You really know what the show is.

[Trisha Paytas]

Now we know what the show.

[Tana Mongeau]

I heard it to you because, like, I love to be in control, but I do love when it comes to us, I do love that you're so clear, like, right before. I don't know if it's going to be in this episode. Another episode. I feel like the Tana. Sorry. The Makoa Moses question. I don't know if it's in this one or the next. I feel like that should be, like, the thumbnail of it. But they did a. They were doing, like, a little intro, and Tana's, like, directing them, and you take, like, such control. And I like. I love it because I'm such a control person where I'm also, like, micromanaging, like, do it like this. But I love watching you do it. And specifically with this show and even the song, we just know what we want.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it's. And society. I like that society has gotten to the point that you can be a woman with a vision and, like, know what you want in the workspace. And it's not. Because I feel like for so long, if you were a woman who knew what you wanted in the workspace and you were, like, demanding it.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, you were a. Yeah. You know what I mean? And it's like, we are. We're in our feminine.

[Tana Mongeau]

Honestly, we're in our feminine. Well, we've been in our masculine for so long. We were talking about that question with. I keep wanting to call him Tana because he was literally beyond Tana's side. Makoa and Moses. And we're asking about the feminine. And it's true. You can be in both.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Tana Mongeau]

Moses will. Never mind. We'll add the question. The way he answered that question with the bling, I'm like, they are.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're just so funny. It's so funny because we're seasoned podcasters and, like, they're normal people.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And, like, they're. And that's why we love them. Right. Because they're so. They balance us out. They bring us back down to reality. I think if we were dating or married to two other seasoned podcasters, it wouldn't last. Like, it would. Oh, my God. Even the thought of it makes me want to die. But then it's so funny. They'll be podcasting and, like. Because. Just a man of few words. And I'm like, yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. No, they're like, we should do. Like we're saying you should do A full episode. But, yeah, we'd have to leave because I literally. Also, Moses is so funny because, like, on podcast, I say that all time on Just Trash. Like, he is very different. Like, I feel like if he was just how he was with me, it's like such a different side, which is fine. But I love it. Yeah, he is funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

But he is funny, honestly. And. But say McCall is much more. Like, he'll be more reserved on camera, and then I'll watch him open up and like, obviously the, like, dance mom in me will be like, open up now. And it's like. Because we shot one for mine, like, recently. And even in the beginning, he was like, you know, more reserved. And by the end of it, he's like on a 20 minute tangent and I'm like, oh, period. No. Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

When he left, he was literally like, yeah, I'm down to do it. I was like, to me, when we talked about the Moses McCoy episode, I was like, there's no way Nicole would do it. You know what I mean? And then, like, the fact that he's like, yeah, I'm down.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, he just loves Moses. Like, they're. They really do catch a vibe, which is. It's very sweet, like, watching them. Oh. Because they talk about, like, they're. I don't like, man stuff. I. I don't.

[Tana Mongeau]

Literally over there, he's like, what's this mask? And was like, it's from Shape of Water. And he's like, how do they deconstruct it? They're, like, looking at this, like a little mask that's been over there that no one's ever asked him about ever. So I'm sure he was, like, so excited about it. And then they were like, over the. I don't know. They always. Yeah, I love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, they, like, on their own, and they're, like, pointing at things and, like, talking and just the things that we, like, would never even, like the construction. Like, they were like, unpacking that. And I was like, I would never, like, ask these questions, you know, I guess McCoy was in construction for a long time, so he was like, yeah,

[Tana Mongeau]

I don't even know what's happening. It's literally been like seven months of construction. I'm like, I don't even know what we're doing. Feel like, what are you doing? I'm like, I have no idea. Just. It's. Something's happening with the tile and the waterproofing.

[Trisha Paytas]

I can't with the damn houses. I think I'm selling my house, but that's for a different podcast. I'm over it.

[Tana Mongeau]

This is the podcast. Every time you see on your TikToks too, you're like, a podcast about it. I'm like, where? What podcast? Where's the podcast?

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I want to talk about it. Okay.

[Tana Mongeau]

Okay. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm launching a podcast, and, like, I feel like I've not said those words. I've been doing press that's, like, gonna come out for when it launches. Like, but I've just been like, I don't know. I. I think this year I was very much about, like, protecting my piece. I think I learned a lot. I mean, even, like, all the way back to Tanacon, I feel like, is a good example. I was always the person who was like, big things coming. We're doing this. And, like, it wasn't done yet. And, like, I'm over promising and under delivering and, like, just. I don't know, like, people in the industry, you tell people too many things, and then people have weird intentions. And, like, I've been very, very particular about what I want and, like, how I want it to be to protect my piece and, like, be a different side of me and, like, all these different things. And, like, it's. I'm finally, like, everything is, like, damn near done. Devin's been a huge part of it.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, I don't know. I guess, like, we talk about it, but you haven't given me the things I don't even know. So, Devin, you're, like, producing it?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Tana Mongeau]

Are you on it? He.

[Trisha Paytas]

We just did a Patreon together. Okay. Actually, which was really fun. We were talking about, like, pet peeves in the workplace.

[Tana Mongeau]

Okay. That's really cute. Oh, so you're doing a Patreon for it too?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, all this is filmed.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. I'm. That was the other thing I really wanted to stack because I think that consistency and me are not necessarily best friends with ease. Like, you know, and that's busy, but, yeah, literally just busy. And I was like, I don't ever want to get to the position where I have one left, and then I have to rely on, like, what's happening in the week in my life and pop culture and all those things. Like, I want to be able to pull from dating experiences and pull from past things and. And just film when I'm in the mood. Not necessarily, like, a scheduled thing, whether that's, like, even, like, in Cabo, I had a day where, like, I was having a bad day, but I was like, I want to talk about my bad day. Like, I want to talk about, like, what I'm going through right now. And like, I'm in the mood to talk about this right now because it's what I'm feeling. Like I'm trying to just make it. I don't know, I keep comparing it to like, my phone. Like, that my next podcast will feel like you're in my phone, whether it's like my notes app and you're in my. My tangents that I'm writing in bed alone at night. Or like you're in like, the lists I'm making for, like, different things. Or like you're in my text messages with my best friends. Or like you're in my camera roll and we're deep diving. Like, just.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's like your tick tocks.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it's like, exactly. Literally. And that's. I've been struggling with that so much. The amount of 10 minute tick tocks I'm posting where it's like, you need a damn podcast.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, it's just like you really do lately. It's just like every single one I think I keep up really well. Then we'll go do like, just tradition. He's like, you didn't see Dana's TikTok about this about you, girl? And I was like, no. Like, I watch all of them. I'm like, how did I not see this? Because I'm just pumping them.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because I need something long form, truly. It's like I just, I think starting with story time and all those things and like, my love for podcasting, like, I'm a long form girlfriend.

[Tana Mongeau]

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[Trisha Paytas]

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[Tana Mongeau]

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[Trisha Paytas]

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[Tana Mongeau]

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[Trisha Paytas]

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[Tana Mongeau]

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[Trisha Paytas]

Thank you, Tinder, for sponsoring today's episode of Not Loveline in the stars. I have not said the name, but the name comes from the fans. I will say that, like, the fans definitely named it, in my opinion. Like, it was something that people were saying to me a lot and it's kind of ironic. The name is, like, a little ironic.

[Tana Mongeau]

I don't think it is anymore, but that's sweet.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know.

[Tana Mongeau]

I don't give too much. No, no. I'm hearing the phrase everywhere. Like, I. I'm like, waiting to do podcasts until my book comes out, but I did the Harry Daniels one because he's like. I feel like, okay. Like, he's like, do you want to do. I was like, yeah, so he's so funny and he's a hoot.

[Trisha Paytas]

I just saw him at a party and he was like, oh, my God, spilling the tea of a century. He's a tea spiller, which I live for.

[Tana Mongeau]

But, like, off camera, I'm like, why don't you say this on camera? Like, we all need to know this. Yes, it. Like, he was Billy. Yes, he is.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. He has more tea than I. Because obviously he interacts with everyone. So, like, he just has so much tea.

[Tana Mongeau]

He's like, friends with all of them. But anyways, he was using that phrase and I was just like. He kept saying in the interview, and I was like, do you know something? Like, it was so. It was so. But it's good because it is everywhere. And I think that. But it's like, uniquely to you.

[Trisha Paytas]

I. I really. I like it. Cuz. Yeah. I mean, people will know the name soon. But, like, obviously, it's just. There's some irony in it because I'm still gonna talk my. And like, whatever. Yeah, I think it's just a much more, like, recalibrated version of me where I am trying to be more introspective and less like, clicky viewy headlining. But, like, I'm always gonna go on a tangent now and again, it's just about when I want to.

[Tana Mongeau]

And keep it cute. I feel like even your like, you're so good. I feel like there's so much that happened. Like there was like an Alyssa Violet thing that you addressed it or the Alex Cooper and you're like, you're like, I'm just trying to like chill, but like all the comments and you still address things, but you're like just so calm. You're not like angry.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And I love keeping that stuff to tick tock even. You know what I mean? Like, I like still giving my takes on pop culture and if something really strikes a chord to where I have a long. But for me, I guess it's like it would only make it to the podcast if there's like a greater lesson. I'm not just going to like bring someone up to like, say their name and like, you know what I mean? Like, get the. So I like keeping it to tick tock and like, you know, just.

[Tana Mongeau]

I like that too because it feels

[Trisha Paytas]

like I like to talk my girl, you know, and like that's, that's the beauty of not Loveline. Like, we get to like, yeah, yap about the current things too. And like, it's not Loveline, you know, yap about the current things and stuff. But this podcast is so different. Like I'm sitting on the beach in Hawaii or like I'm sitting in a hotel room in Vegas or like, how

[Tana Mongeau]

is that work then? So you have this idea and you're like, I want to talk about my bad day. Is like, Kyle always with you?

[Trisha Paytas]

Kyle's always with me. And he is on salary and he's amazing and he is. I literally. He's like my little mini Scorsese. He just like makes my ideas come to and obviously my mini Scorsese. But like, I love him.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's so nice. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And it just. He is. It's great to set up anywhere and do anything from anywhere. And then we have Devin who has like the vision, you know, where Devin's like, okay, I want the lighting like this. I want you guys to talk about this. Look at like, you know, you need a gay, you need it. I have my straight, I have my gay. And it's perfect. It's like, I don't mean to make it about just their sexuality.

[Tana Mongeau]

Me, I have that problem all the time. I literally asked her on hot dogs. I'm like, I'm like, is Billy Eilish a lesbian? I don't know why that matters in this situation at all. He's like, I think she's queer. I don't know. I'm like, sorry. That was so irrelevant.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. It's like they're. What I should be saying is they're two of the most hardworking, creative, intelligent. And that's the other thing, too. I was so careful with this team where it was people that I've known for years and people who, I guess, inspire me and motivate me deeply. Like, people who I just, like, look up to. Almost. Like, I look at my whole team now and it moves me to tears, like. Cause it's just people I trust with everything in me. And I'm so excited you're coming on in a couple days.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm so excited about that. Did you find. Yeah, I know. I don't. Is it gonna be here? Is it gonna be in.

[Trisha Paytas]

We could do it here, which I

[Tana Mongeau]

like because I am in la, but here too. We can do it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't. Or I'm gonna try to find a little, like, pure space that's super pink and girly and stuff. We're in this interim right now. I'm trying to build a set. And in my dream world, my episode one launch on May 8th.

[Tana Mongeau]

What? I love it. I know what he said earlier. I was like, okay, my birthday.

[Trisha Paytas]

Love it.

[Tana Mongeau]

Which I'm doing nothing for my birthday. That'll be my birthday. It's literally having a.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, should I launch with our episode?

[Tana Mongeau]

No, you don't. You have your first episode.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I actually have shot everything but the first one.

[Tana Mongeau]

But I thought with.

[Trisha Paytas]

She's the second episode. She is that my second episode.

[Tana Mongeau]

What are you gonna do? She's my first.

[Trisha Paytas]

The first. I originally was going to be sitting on my built set and then reflecting on all of the other episodes that I've shot and kind of letting people know what the podcast was. However, I do not have a built set, and we. Everything that could go wrong has gone wrong.

[Caller]

But did you say.

[Tana Mongeau]

I heard you say earlier Drip down is involved.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, they are. They're not doing anything wrong. It was.

[Tana Mongeau]

I say they're fast. They get it fast. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. It's that I got an office space. I'm in my King Kylie era.

[Tana Mongeau]

I know you said this earlier. Like, yeah, the Office is having issue. And I was like, the TV show, like, what's the Office like? What do you mean? It's having issues. Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I've always wanted. But I did not deserve point blank period. Like, I just. What it would have been in any other era, me having an office space would have been headquarters to smoke a. That like there was no need. Oh, and just the amount of employees that like now I have and like my team, I finally actually have the need for so, you know, people at desks and like a headquarters and like a Kylie. The type of HQ moment that's like

[Tana Mongeau]

the ultimate made it moment.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like I love it.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's like the dreams have an office,

[Trisha Paytas]

but so I getting it is getting an office, but I didn't know anything about it. It's very hard. So my set is obviously going to be in my office, but it just. It's taking longer. So I think now the first episode I'm gonna shoot with like boxes in my office and just like that cute, you know, big things coming.

[Tana Mongeau]

Well, you are in the office space. Is your office set up at all?

[Trisha Paytas]

It's not set up. Like I've been ordering furniture for it and stuff, but I have to do some construction because I want this set to be my like dream, dream, dream set. And Isabella designed it and Dripdome is building it and it's just. It's. It's like, it's perfect. It's so gor. I want to actually show you.

[Tana Mongeau]

I can't wait to see. No, Dripdome is good at like collaboration because that dragon mirror I got, they like outsource it to someone but then they like piece of together and then bling dip in it. Like it's a good to collaborate thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm looking at everyone and I'm just so amazed by every single person's role. Even Isabella has never worked for me across our friendship at all. But she's like the cool girl with the like design vision she always has been. And I was like, will you just design my set?

[Tana Mongeau]

I can't wait to see. Oh my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

I want to show you. Do you have pictures?

[Tana Mongeau]

Is it like a diagram or like diagram. What is it called?

[Trisha Paytas]

The little like, like a mockup. Like a floor plan.

[Tana Mongeau]

I love when I see those little like little digital things.

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Tana Mongeau]

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[Trisha Paytas]

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[Trisha Paytas]

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[Tana Mongeau]

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[Trisha Paytas]

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[Tana Mongeau]

I love that concept so much, and I love that you have an office space. I'm like, I can't wait to see it. I want to go.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I can't wait for you to come. It's. It's everything.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm gonna live there.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm selling the house, and I'm putting a bed in it. Like, I love it more than my house.

[Tana Mongeau]

I know. I always want to say that, too. If I. We always. House. I was like, I want to turn this into, like, an office house. Like, you know, where people could just come. It's like, oh, here's my. I don't. I have no meetings. You do have people that, like, work with you. I really don't have that, but I still would like the idea of it. I think you comment down, like, my pink couches in, like, my, like, little tiny office. It's like a room that we made into an office, and I was just like, oh, I feel like I could have, like, meetings here. But, like, yes. I like the idea. Like, Malibu will sit next to me and be, oh, take a seat.

[Trisha Paytas]

I just hate Zoom.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I. I'm doing everything at all times to avoid a zoom. I don't want to see your, like, fake background. I don't want. Now Zoom is partnered with AI and the camera, like, moves and follows, and, like, everyone's, like, talking over each other and putting a pin in something that doesn't exist and circling back to something that doesn't exist. And everyone's all over the world. I can't.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm not a Zoom person either. I love going in person somewhere.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think creativity sparks so much more when you're looking at People face to face and showing people things on, like, it just. I don't know. I. Because so much of what we do comes down to creativity as well. Like the meetings or, you know, and

[Tana Mongeau]

having a good office space. I remember going into the CAA building and being like, wow. Like, they're. They're. First of all, it's like 8,000 stories tall. It's all, like white marble. And then the meeting room has cereal and milk. That's gonna be you. That's gonna be so you. They're like, we were gonna get you butter noodles and Domino's, but you wanted a 9am meeting, so there's cereal and, like, donuts free. It was like. And to me, right away, I was like, this is it. This is what I want to be. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm excited to be that as well, because I think before I'd be late to a meeting. Like, now I am such a little host. Like, people come over and I'm, like, getting them a beverage from the fridge, and, like, I'm just excited to. Yeah. Be on time and be all these. All these things that this one phrase encompasses. That is totally not the name, but also the name.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's gonna be so good.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm really, really excited. Like, just so grateful and just to shoot all over the world in Hawaii. And.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, you are always, like, busy and, like, on the go. So I think that's, like, a perfect. Did you any while you were in New York?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, I did one with Ashley, which we had never done because the craziest was happening to me in New York,

[Tana Mongeau]

which I'm gonna really. Wait how. First of all, this is why I love you as, like, a friend. Because, like, I don't really leave my house. So when you're like, the crazy. The crazy. It's always happening to you.

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel like, especially right now, like, some planet is planning. Okay. Like, when it comes to, like, those girls breaking into my Coachella house and, like, Adam Sandler and, like, just all these different things that are happening, I'm like, what, Mercury is.

[Tana Mongeau]

Is that a retrograde right now? They're all out of retrograde. But I don't know, maybe Aries and Venus or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

It, like, just so much. Yeah. So much crazy has been happening.

[Tana Mongeau]

What happened in New York? Did you talk about it? I don't also want to repeat.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I'm gonna bleep.

[Tana Mongeau]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I'm gonna tell you right now. Okay, so bleep. Jimmy. I get to my hotel in New York and I find out because I'm, like, sharing locations with some of the friends still and stuff. And, like, whatever. This also put me onto the fact that I share my location with everyone. Like. Like, why does David Dobrik still have my location? That's not the bleep. Okay, but, like, I just. I. I didn't realize, like, Bryce hall has my location. I was. Harry Dowsey has my location. Alex Warren, that's my location.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, can you stop it? Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

I just never have gone and look. But anyways, I, like, look at the location. I look at my text and I find out. And this is the bleep. I find out. Staying in the same hotel as me. I know. I know the worst in New York. Like, what are the odds? And, like, the whole party, the whole everyone. And I'm living. I'm. I'm. I'm shifty as ever. I'm freaking out. Like, so much went down and so I had to go shoot a podcast, obviously.

[Tana Mongeau]

Did you see this person?

[Trisha Paytas]

No. Okay. But that's good because of the way I was acting. Like, I was like. I don't. Like, it was crazy.

[Tana Mongeau]

I would have switched hotels. I've been like, I need to like, switches hotel.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was just so expensive.

[Tana Mongeau]

I was like, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And it makes sense because it's the hotel. I'll bleep the hotel too. I'm sorry. Of course they're like, they have a hotel. Yeah. They're, like, working out there. Like, it make. It makes more sense for them to be staying there than for me to be staying there. I was uber eating, like, Taco Bell to the, you know, healthiest hotel in the world, but.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, thank God. Wait, that's crazy. And then were you there the entire time for the brand trip or you just ate extra just for fun?

[Trisha Paytas]

Are we working extra for fun, but also to work. I feel like I clear my head in New York. Like, I was writing my book a lot. I, like, just, like, took a few meetings and, like, did some press. I went into the barstool headquarters and like, what?

[Tana Mongeau]

Why? What are you doing there?

[Trisha Paytas]

They have, like, a whole girly side where they have it girl. And it's.

[Tana Mongeau]

We've seen the girly side and it's a mess right now. On a chicken fry versus Alexa. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. I did a search bar and then they have a What's in my bag? That's like asmr. So I was doing that.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And so I was asmr. What's in my burking, which was, like, funny, but DC Dave? No, but I Was looking. I was like, tea by the sea. I want to know. I got a little too invested for a second.

[Tana Mongeau]

Why is he so messy for no reason? He's not even monetizing. He's just, like, just being messy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are they over a minute?

[Tana Mongeau]

I. Yeah, I guess they are. But there's no way he's making money off TikTok.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, I make no money on TikTok, so I assume that no one else is too. Yeah, see, by the sea is so. I'm. It's so funny that he's, like, in the sun and, like, baking, too. I'm like, we gotta get you hyaluronic acid. And, like. But also, don't stop spilling. He really is spilling. Like, oh, my God.

[Tana Mongeau]

He's like, chicken Fry told me this. And then I got scooper. I'm like, oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

His pronunciations will forever send me, like, calling Dumois de Maximo. Like, I like, it's.

[Tana Mongeau]

It is Hootie to me. Oh, God. He is just. He's.

[Trisha Paytas]

What's your. What's your. Well, also, you and I got dragged in to Alex versus Alex, which is so crazy. I didn't know.

[Tana Mongeau]

I still don't really, like, think it's.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, the answer is if you think that her video was subliminal or not.

[Tana Mongeau]

Well, I guess the caption ended up being. Because at first I was like, okay, it's circus or whatever. But I didn't know the caption. Did you? It was.

[Trisha Paytas]

God.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oscar told me. See, now I forgot already. I literally forget always.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was one of the lyrics, I think, to circus. But it was like, a messier one.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, it was like a direct. Direct quote that Alex Earl had said. Like, at first I was like, it's a coincidence. At circus. It's a coincidence is this. But it was like, I need Oscar, because he's like, you're tied in this way. And I was like, no.

[Trisha Paytas]

But there was something so dying because someone commented on one of my tick tocks, and they put a screenshot of us in the video, and they were like, you and Trisha are just so jolly to be there. And I don't know why Jolly had me dying because. Because we were. We were. But, like, you know what I mean? You and I were just like, like, unwell. We're in Vegas. We want a residency here. Like, we're not thinking anything of it. We're cackling in the video. Like. And then, of course, four months later, just, there's Tana and Trisha, jolly as all hell to Be in the circus video.

[Tana Mongeau]

We went hard for unwell for a minute. Remember we wore the sweatsuits the next day. Like, we love Unwell. I'm like, I'm not knocking on. Well, like I do. Like, I don't know. Like, no.

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Tana Mongeau]

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[Trisha Paytas]

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[Trisha Paytas]

Make sure you click the link in the description to download the app and have the code automatically added to your account so you can use it later. Thank you, seatgeek, for sponsoring today's episode of Not Loveline. We love you. I think that my opinion at first on Alex versus Alex was kind of nothing. Burger was kind of like just like, obviously that was never going to work. Her signing to unwell, like, I feel like even when I saw that, I was like, okay, I give this six months like before.

[Tana Mongeau]

Wow, really?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, in my opinion, I guess, like where it's just like they're. They're two very different powerhouses. They're two very. And like one owning the other to me does not seem that would be like you owning me. Like, it's like why would you own me? Let's just. Let's just be powerhouses together.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's what. That's why I was more shocked when I saw them team up together. I thought it was definitely gonna be like a 50 50. So when I found out she got 1.2 million, Alex Earl and Alex Cooper then after signed the 125 million deal because she had her under the unwell now. Well, allegedly, supposedly that' why that happened. That is kind of crazy because if I was like, oh, someone's like, hey, Trish, I can give you 125 million but you get tan on board. Like, obviously I'm gonna be like, well, here's. I don't know what. Half of 100 million.

[Trisha Paytas]

80.

[Tana Mongeau]

I don't know what that is. I'll give you like, oh, here's 80 million.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'd take 10.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's like, that's what I thought. So then when I heard that, I was like, oh, that's kind of crazy. But like at the end of the day, yeah, like they're all just like rich and just whatever.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I also think that like if this was men, the conversation would be so different. So it gave me a bit of disdain to the world that immediately it's like, like, let's just hope that whoever's on whoever's team that like people just want them to. People love a downfall, you know. And it's like if this was Two men, it would just be like two Men had a business agreement and the world keeps spinning, you know. And like I had a lot of that. But I will say that I've changed my tune in the past 48 hours. That I do. I am gonna go on record and say that I do think that from Alex's side, that's both of their names. And let's see, I'm already done. Now I'm just like, oh, from Alex with an eyes side.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think she is promoting her reality show.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, of course.

[Trisha Paytas]

And like the clipping shot sideways and yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

And like waiting to see.

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't at first. I really didn't because I was like, I don't necessarily. We'll have to see the episode. Right. If the episode is so crazy that it's like, damn, you were doing that for a reason, then maybe I would change my tune again. But right now I'm kind of like, your. Your reality show is going to be good no matter what.

[Tana Mongeau]

But like, I like Alex. I was thinking like, oh, she's so not drama. But yeah, this makes me like, I guess Want to watch it more because,

[Trisha Paytas]

like, sister fights, like, they definitely know what they're doing and what they're posting right now to, like. To, like, lead people to want to

[Tana Mongeau]

watch, you know, that's true, because at first I was like, oh, she's just pretty, but, like, kind of boring. And now it's like.

[Trisha Paytas]

And that is why a good reality show succeeds is, like, the pot stirring and the public up in arms and stuff. Like, even the d' Amelio show, I felt like, was too businessy and, like, nice to really, like. It needed more. You have to be down to put yourself on the front lines and, like, be polarizing and have people angry with you and, like, to have a good reality show.

[Tana Mongeau]

Right, you need more of the drama, I guess. They did have James Charles and the snail.

[Trisha Paytas]

Remember the snail? Wait, what did James Charles have to do with the snail?

[Tana Mongeau]

He was at the dinner, and he was like. He was the one that called Dixie Dramatic.

[Trisha Paytas]

James Charles was eating the snail. And then she was like, Devin's nodding to me, like, this is like Mount Rushmore. Like, I don't know, a president on Mount Rushmore.

[Tana Mongeau]

The scene of the crime everywhere.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, him and Harry Jose. Him and Harry Jowsey are at the scene of the crime. They really. They're sure. They have been.

[Tana Mongeau]

One of them needs to sign the other to their network. That is. Yeah, he was there for a snail gate. And then I think he was just like, you're being dramatic or something. And that's when she was, like, coughing up the snail. Yeah, it could have been good, but I agree. Yeah, it definitely means I miss when

[Trisha Paytas]

times are simpler, too. Like, you know what I mean? That's like, snail gate. I look back at that fondly.

[Tana Mongeau]

I remember being. I remember, like, I was so angry at her for it. I look back at a clip of me talking about it. I'm like, 31. She's like, 18. I'm like, you are entitled. You are so entitled, you rude little bitch. I was just being so mad.

[Trisha Paytas]

And little did we know, though, like, where the Internet was gonna go. Like, the amount of other people that would do so many things that, like, don't. Obviously snail gig dolls in comparison, of

[Tana Mongeau]

all people, just, like, yelling at someone at 18 for being, like, not liking a snail.

[Trisha Paytas]

We had our gavel eras, you know, we thought we needed the gavel, and

[Tana Mongeau]

we thought we had to put it down always. I will never. I really try not to judge anyone, but I do Love an Alex vs Alex when it's like, yeah, when I'm like, not involved. Because it is just so. It is like, I feel like when you're in it, it must feel so much heavier. Obviously, we know, but like, from the outside, it feels just so serious to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's why when I'm seeing people, like, really, like, you know what I mean? Take it so seriously. I'm like, if this was two men, it just wouldn't be happening. And like, in reality, I saw a mom post something where she was like, you two girls just need to get lunch. And it's the truth. Like, you know, and like that's. They should just get a lunch and like continue powerhousing, you know? But I also, like, we don't know what happened. And I. This could age so, so poorly, you

[Tana Mongeau]

know, But I have to wait for reality. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I think that just. I don't know what it is. Some dramas that like Halter Top Gate, I was so invested. I hate to keep using it, but I was like, I was so invested. Whereas this one, I'm kind of just

[Tana Mongeau]

like, I would love to know the truth from Tara's World. Like, was that real? Is that a real message yourself?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I'll never know.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'll never know.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I'm tapped out. I am tapped out. I'm just saying some things get me going more. Like, get me more interested. Whereas Alex versus Alex, I'm kind of

[Tana Mongeau]

like, yeah, we all lost interest. We're all like, okay, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Even though I just like, I don't know, I'm just like, I hope they work it out. Like, that really is like my.

[Tana Mongeau]

Well, my coming friend. While now I've been seeing like, like news articles, like publishing like hit pieces on them and stuff like that. I was like, damn, they really have it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Out for. Which is like. Which is why I was surprised Alex Free even said anything. Because to me, I feel like when you have 125 million dollar business, like, why are you even battling Brianna Chicken Fry? You know what I mean? It's just like, why show all the DMs that she liked you? It's like, it's interest interesting to me, but maybe she's promoting something too. Yeah, she's a producer on the show.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God. And that's. That's the whole full circle. And they're just producing. That would be crazy. I feel like that would enrage a lot of people. That's the interesting thing too is that like doing things like this for pr. Like we're now in a place where like, things can backfire, you know, where it's like you're losing your viewership's trust.

[Tana Mongeau]

Isn't it crazy how people do all these PR stands for, like, attention and four views and it's just like, back in the day, like, I would just be, like, sitting in my apartment just, like, getting all this attention and not no PR person involved. Just, like, all this stuff. Like, why would you want. Yeah. Negative attention? I'm, like, doing all I can to

[Trisha Paytas]

just say, like, Because I think we did it before. It was this. I feel like we were contriving attention at any cost before that was, like, such a thing. To the point that by the time. I don't want to speak for you, I guess I know that I was. I was, like, carrying the snakes on the carpet and, like, making the crazy videos and, like, all the things.

[Tana Mongeau]

Another level. You were elevated.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, but, like, I don't know. I don't know, like, where your head was at during cardboard cutout marriage. Like, if you were like, I'm doing this for pr, or if you were just catching a vibe.

[Tana Mongeau]

I was, like, unwell. I was very unwell. And it's like, okay, so are you saying you were doing it for attention?

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess before, it was like, people hire teams and do this now, like, and now I'm tired. I'm like, either it gets attention or doesn't.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. It is harder to create something for attention. That's interesting. I guess. I don't know. I'm trying to think. I mean, there are times when, yeah, I was, like, really unwell. But I suppose in my early trolling days, I probably wanted the attention. I wanted the money. I wanted the money. I feel like I remember when, like, Mitt Romney was running for president, I was like, I love Mitt Romney. And I was going on like, Larry King and, like, the Young Turks. And I was like, literally 20. And I'm like, I love him. Cause I have a cat named. Like, I was being so stupid. But it really even wasn't for attention because, like, I didn't know about negative attention back then. It was really like, like, money. Because I was, like, a sex worker on the street, and I was getting, like, 800 bucks, you know, a night. But the Mitt Romney video brought $8,000. So I was just like, well, this is what I'm doing.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know what I keep saying?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. So that's interesting. That too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, my fear definitely drove me, like, my fear to, like, if I don't succeed, you know what I mean? Like, I will have to go back to this horrible life. So, like, at any cost. This attention is helping me, not the money, you know? Yeah. You get so lost in that. I don't know. It is.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. And I guess now, yeah, people go along with the PR stunts and the rage bait. Yeah, I guess also, when you're like, Alex Earl, Alex Cooper, like, I feel like their past are pretty squeak clean. I've seen a couple stuff on, like, Alex Cooper from, like, the early caller daddy days of Just stuff. She's like, said that was like. Like, bad taste. But in general, like, Alex Earl. You think if people were trying to cancel her, more stuff would come up?

[Trisha Paytas]

But I saw, like, people on this whole campaign of, like, she does co and, like. Like, making that be, like, the big thing. And it's like, like. And so does if you. If your favorite influencers are partying all the time. I'm not gonna speak for Alex Rose specifically, but it's like, as someone who just did it with everyone you could ever name under the sun, like A to Z encyclopedia, I've done a bump with them. Like, I. That's, like. Whether it's, like, the most shocking people or the, like, people, you know are doing it, it just. It's rampant in the party scene, and it's, like, big. Like, not big whoop. People shouldn't be doing it with all the things. It's scary.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's awful.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it's awful. I don't think anyone should be doing cool 2026. I'm not, like, trying to justify it back then, but I'm just saying, like, before Deadly. Yes. Like, I'm not saying it's a good

[Tana Mongeau]

thing, but, like, everybody was doing it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was just at Coachella, like, everyone you loves, Jaws are swinging.

[Tana Mongeau]

Really? When I was going through legal with my book, I guess we can, like, bleep out the name, but I would be talking about, like, doing. Well, is this factual? Is it out there? And I'm like, I mean, yeah, everyone knows. Like, would you have anyone to back it up? And I was like, yes. Like, all of LA would back this up. What do you mean, back that up? Because they're like, how about we say, like, like, alleged cocaine habit. I was like, whatever, if you want to see it.

[Trisha Paytas]

But it was like, God, I'm so horrified to go through legal with. Yeah, but I would back you up.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's awesome. Every question is like, can a witness, like, testify to this? I'm like, yeah, because it is. It is so crazy. But then they also scare you. And then you also. Then you just rethink everything. Like, obviously, I had to hand my final manuscript in, but then when I was doing the legal part of it, I was starting to get embarrassed by my own book. And I was thinking, like, oh, my God, I have to record the audio of this. Like, because the lawyer's so serious and ask you questions and they have to read the whole book. And like, my lawyer obviously didn't know, or the publisher's lawyer didn't know anything about me. So just asking these questions with a straight face was just like, I was so embarrassed. And she's like, okay, do you know for sure he has a fetish for fat girls or has he dated thick girls in the past? Like, this is so embarrassing. Like, I was like, well, don't call it a fetish then. Call it this. Like they're just giving you all the wording for it. And I was like, this is a very embarrassing thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

God, it's gonna. That's just gave me some really good advice on that. Where she was like, when you go through legal with your book, like, make sure that you take the whole week away and, like, don't do anything else.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, I think we had. It was like a four hour call. And then. Yeah, you have to go back and like, whoever you're, like, collaborating with, if you're collaborating someone, then you have to kind of like. But they kind of do it there on the call too. Like, your publisher's on the call, then the. The lawyer. And then if you have.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm so excited for this. Can I read it?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Tana Mongeau]

This is crying on the kitchen floor.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can I take this home?

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, well, this is not my book in there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, okay.

[Tana Mongeau]

But I will give you the first copy because the first copies come out in June. So I will definitely give you.

[Trisha Paytas]

So excited.

[Tana Mongeau]

You can be one of the early readers. I just had a call with them today and they're like, we send it out to 20 early readers.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can it be 21, please? Begging? Like, I'm so excited.

[Tana Mongeau]

Put you on the early reader list.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm like, actually begging.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, of course I'd give it to you. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

You have cover.

[Tana Mongeau]

You have a mention in there.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can I also say.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, my God. Yeah. And so it's a. There's a couple mentions of you, so. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I know the one. But also.

[Tana Mongeau]

But then there's like, good too, because

[Trisha Paytas]

that story doesn't end so beautifully. Can I also just say, Ashley and I were talking about this at length, but you. I know that you were on the hunt to find someone who lived in your old apartment building. To find the kitchen floor to shoot at.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And you didn't end up finding the person, so you built. You rebuilt.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, we rebuilt. Yeah. Yes. Oh, yes. So that was a whole thing. We even called the building and was like, hey, no one's in it, because it got returned to sender my letter. So no one was in the apartment. Then we called them, and it might have been even remodeled, we don't know. But we called them, and we're like, we'll give you $20,000 if we can shoot there. And like, no, because it's like a big corporation that owns these buildings. So they're like, no, I redo this.

[Trisha Paytas]

But you rebuilt it identically.

[Tana Mongeau]

Crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then videos of you with your children sitting on that same kid. Like, look at my arm hair standing up. It was. And that's like, your mind, like, that's a creative. You couldn't pay someone a billion dollars for, like, just how genius and cool Ashley and I were, like, literally just sitting, being like, this is the coolest thing ever.

[Tana Mongeau]

And, like, it must.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know that it was a set, but obviously you turn around and it looks like it, and you're facing forward. It's almost so poetic in that regard too, that obviously, when you used to be there, you're facing forward into the rest of that place that you lived in. And you were confined to living there and confined to those emotions. Whereas behind you is the set that you built that looks just like it. And you turn around, but in front of you is the cameras and the family and the people, which is. Oh, my God, I'm gonna cry. It's so poetic.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, I am too. It was for my music video because I'm doing a music video to promote it. And so I was doing this music video, and. Yeah. And I break the fourth wall where it's just like. Yeah, you see that? It's a set. And it's looked so real. It was so great. Like, last night, designer was amazing. First time we used him, and he's like, so amazing. It was, like, really, really cool.

[Trisha Paytas]

It just. I was so proud of you and happy for you, and I'm so.

[Tana Mongeau]

This is felt healing.

[Trisha Paytas]

This is so good, dude. It's so. It, like, certain. Certain things give the girl boss town side of my brain, like, a deep serotonin, and it's like, you couldn't change a single thing. It's so perfect.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, my God. Thank you so much.

[Trisha Paytas]

I can't wait to read it.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm so excited for you to. I'll like. I'll if I get a copy, like earlier, I'll like, I can give you the manuscript, like, I literally all return

[Trisha Paytas]

it, like in two days. Like, give me two days and I just cannot wait. I'm so proud of you. And like, I know that you had your, like, fun publishing like, other. But this is like your. Your first big body. Yeah. Like, real memoir that you like. And I know it's the first of many and it's going to be a New York Times bestseller and you're going to.

[Tana Mongeau]

I know for so long. I was just telling it. I'm like, it's easy to get on there because, like, everyone gets on it because I think you have to sell like 5,000. But I'm like, I hope I sell it so you.

[Trisha Paytas]

I will buy 5,000 copies myself.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm excited.

[Trisha Paytas]

There's no question.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's cool. I feel like. Yeah, well, you know, you've been. You've been working on yours just as long. So it's like, I literally talked to my agent the other day and then she. Cause Tana's book about to come out and I was like, I don't know. I'm like, she hasn't been looking at a very long time.

[Trisha Paytas]

The podcast definitely took over just a little bit of a back seat, but we're getting closer and it's cool because I'm starting to podcast about a lot of things that are going to be in the book and doing more things as I research for the book that I'm podcasting about. I even randomly, like next week. My. So my dad, my like birth father was born into seven brothers and sisters, and I never really knew them because he had scammed them all by the time I was like, alive. Like, he had just done them all wrong for the most part. So I kind of only had ever heard about them or like, maybe met one of them like once or twice. And I'm getting on a call with like two of my. My dad's brothers like next week to like, learn more about what their childhood was like to like.

[Tana Mongeau]

Because they do. Yeah. Like, I. I did work with a collaborator for this, and at the beginning he was very much like, what was your parents childhood like? And you're like, yeah, I don't know about that. So you do have to, like, know about all that. Oh, that's so interesting.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are you going to use them in person? No, I'm just gonna call them. I think that I love. I love the phone as the barrier whenever I'm doing anything in regards to digging on all that stuff. But I think I'll podcast about it a little bit. So the podcast is almost going to be this, like, precursor to the book, I think.

[Tana Mongeau]

Do you. That is. That's interesting. Do you think you'll do it all the way up to your life now or do you think because you have, like, honestly, like your childhood alone, because there's. There's a lot that went through. Are you gonna do it to a certain point and stop and do like a part 2?

[Trisha Paytas]

We go back and forth about this a lot. And the more I write, the more I'm like, even right now I have like a near half a book and I'm entering sixth grade. Like, you know what I'm saying?

[Tana Mongeau]

It's almost like a. A three parter did it. Yeah, they. Yeah. Three parters.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm like Twilight, Harry Potter.

[Tana Mongeau]

It could very well be that because that's what's. That's what was so fun. I loved writing my book and I was like, oh, I wish I could, like, do another one right now. But I was like, I have to wait another 30 years to do one. Because I'm like, 30 is crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Four is fine. Two and three is fine.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, I did stop it like, at Malibu's birth. So I'm like, okay, I can write a little bit more. Maybe later because I had so much fun. But like, I do think for yours it's. I don't know, it definitely. It could be three, but I definitely think at least, like, I feel two. Because you're already are so different. Like, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

And there's J.K. rowling. This.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm about to go in. It is true. I might.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. I feel. I don't know. I don't. Obviously you would know. Like, when you talk to, like, publisher or something with it. I feel like that's.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Where it's at. But I know people are like, dying for that too.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know. But like, people are also dying for this.

[Tana Mongeau]

We're so aligned. Oh, thank you. I mean, I'm very. I mean, I'm very excited about this. I can't wait for it to be out. Like the.

[Trisha Paytas]

Your face on this book covers how I feel. Like, like my baby. My.

[Tana Mongeau]

I really wanted to be like, not like I'm like, I needed to reflect because I'm looking at my phone. So it's like a lot of like, looking back and be like, ugh, my. My life online, but also like, on the kitchen floor.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Tana Mongeau]

Anyways, yeah, they were great. I work with Grand Central Publishing. I'm sure you'll have like lots of calls with people, but they're amazing.

[Trisha Paytas]

People are gonna be the most surprised about. And I don't necessarily mean give me the, the hitting points, but just like, I don't know.

[Tana Mongeau]

I think I surprised myself with like, I guess like honesty. I feel like I've talked about a lot of stuff that's gone on. I think like, like, I think I like at a. At a point where I can like reflect and give like true, honest, like what happened as opposed to. I think I was like skewed by emotion and stuff like that. And again, that's why I helped working with a collaborator because I had someone to kind of like talk to and just be like, okay. It was almost like a therapy session every single time. So I was like talking and like really trying to figure out like where the life moments happen. I. I do think I thought, well, everyone knows everything about me. There's gonna be no T. But then when I'm like reading it back because obviously I'm like rereading it 5,000 times and taking out any little thing that could be like weird or whatever, I do feel like it's a lot more tea than I thought originally. I was like, I want it to be a hope core. I want it to be a takeaway. And I'm like, this feels a little talali, but like it's fine. And it has a lot about like

[Trisha Paytas]

the hope core is where you are now though.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. You know, hoping from this because it also talks a lot about men in my life, which I kind of hated at first. And I worked with like an all female publishing team, which I like loved. And they were like, oh, well, we want to know about your grandmama's. So true. But I was like, God, I really centered men so much. And I was like, I need to just show that part to be like how once I decentered, how much like you thrive, you just have like one good man helping you and it's like, he's wonderful. I know he's always gonna be there and it's great. And it's like de. Centering that and centering yourself I think makes such.

[Trisha Paytas]

I did.

[Tana Mongeau]

I was like, so stupid. But I hope it's a lesson book. Cuz honestly, it's not stupid though.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's a product of your environment and a product of your life and a product of the cards and that you were dealt and you made it out of that. And like, how motivational is that to so many women out there who are, you know, dealt the same cards and Dealing with the same things and stuff. I can't wait to read it. And book tour. So, like, Barnes and Noble side of the grove. And you get to sit, like, oh, love sitting.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, my God. You want to come do my Barnes and Noble interview?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

They always have someone. They always need, like, somebody like, tell me the date. Yeah. November.

[Trisha Paytas]

Tell me. Oh, I'm there. I'm 100 anytime. I'm in full support.

[Tana Mongeau]

But no, I am really excited for all that and I'm excited for it to be out and what's really cool. And you'll know, obviously, you know, this is like. Like having to go back and looking at videos from, like, 2000, like, seven or something, and like. Like the fact that every story has, like, a video to go with it, so you can almost, like, see it in, like, real time. It's really cool. And it's kind of just. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was gonna say it's traumatizing too, though. Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Because, like, I think we talked about

[Trisha Paytas]

seeing yourself in it, you know, just is.

[Tana Mongeau]

I didn't watch myself in, like, other people's videos, like Shane or Dave. Like, I didn't. So having to find. And David's deleted all the videos of me, so having to find, like, a re upload of all them, I'm just like, oh, my God. It's like, so crazy to watch because I never watched them. And then just like, I don't know. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It takes you so back to that moment, you know?

[Tana Mongeau]

That's why for so long on both podcasts, I was, like, just really hyper fixating. Like, I was always talking about, like, my past and people like, why are you talking about, like, because I was so in it. But it feels good to also, like, let it go where I feel like now, if people ever ask me about anything in the future, I can just be like, it's in the book, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And it's like, finite. It's a finite closing and, you know, like, letting go. That's. That's how I feel about a lot of things that are going in my book where I'm like. I'm putting it there and, like, let it go.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And here's the lessons I've learned.

[Tana Mongeau]

And in a sense, that's good too, because they also, like, working with the publisher, they, like, cut things down a lot, which is good. So mine was, like, also, like, really, like, long. But it's good because it goes fast. So it makes things that felt so heavy, like a chapter of your life that felt like it was never gonna be over. I mean, it's like half a chapter. Like Vlog squad's like half a chapter. You know, I thought I was like, it's gonna be my whole book. And it's like, oh, it was such a little blip in my life, but it felt so heavy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

So things just go fast, which is like, good too. So.

[Trisha Paytas]

And putting things into words perfectly, I think is also something like. Like we're always just kind of flippantly saying things and like, you know, just like breadcrumbing here and there. But to sum it up like flawlessly put it out there, makes you feel like, okay, I did it. Thank you, girl. Winter is so last season. And now spring's got you looking at pictures of tank tops with hungry eyes. Your algorithm is feeding you cutoffs. You're thirsty for the sun on your shoulders that perfect hang on the patio. Sundress those sandals. You can somewhere all day and all night. And you've had enough of shopping from your couch. Done. Hoping it looks anything like the picture when you tear open that envelope. It's time for a little in person spring treat. It's time for a trip to Ross. Work your magic. Focus features in Blumhouse present Obsession When

[Tana Mongeau]

I have a crush on a guy no one knows.

[Trisha Paytas]

Be careful. I wish Nikki love me more than anyone in the entire world. Who you wish for obsession is 96

[Tana Mongeau]

fresh on rotten tomatoes. I love you so, so, so, so much. It's blood soaked nightmare fuel.

[Trisha Paytas]

What kind of spills you put on her?

[Tana Mongeau]

You have been warned. Obsession rated R under 17. Anime without parent only theaters May 15 with special engagements in Dolby.

[Trisha Paytas]

So much to Mars men for sponsoring today's episode of Not Loveline. Low testosterone really isn't talked about enough.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, I feel like before I was heard about Mars, man, I feel like I had never heard about it. Obviously we hear a lot about like women being hormones or whatever. And I feel like men, because they're not as open to talking about their feelings and how they're feeling their bodies changing. Especially when they get older. A lot of men, it hits in their late 30s or maybe even like mid-30s, like 34. They start feeling like workouts are harder. They're dragging through the mud more. And they're like, why is this? And a lot of people don't know why. Right. They're like getting help, you know, guys back in the day. But we're in 2026. All right, guys, you also can get help and you also can up up those testosterone levels.

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Tana Mongeau]

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[Trisha Paytas]

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[Tana Mongeau]

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[Trisha Paytas]

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[Tana Mongeau]

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[Trisha Paytas]

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[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, I love that. Not Loveline has the power, best sales. All our people are like we need this. Which makes sense. We talk a lot about these topics

[Trisha Paytas]

and people say we don't help men.

[Tana Mongeau]

We're here. Equal for everybody. Equality for men. Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Thank you so much to Mars men for sponsoring today's episode of Not Lovely.

[Tana Mongeau]

I do love the website. Men Go to Mars is great.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. It sounds like a song title. Maybe we should make a song.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's a book title. Men Go to Mars, Women Go to Venus.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh. Oh, that's what that's from.

[Tana Mongeau]

But I do love a song for the men.

[Trisha Paytas]

Thank you, Mars men, we love you.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. That's why it was great working with, like, a publisher, too. It was like, a girl that, like, got me because she was very much, like, helping me with that kind of stuff, too, is how to, like, just make it feel. But it's all in my tone. I have to record the audiobook. So it's all, like, me and stuff. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

But, yeah, that is like that, too, as I'm. That's the biggest thing is, like, writing in your own tone is very hard.

[Tana Mongeau]

But how it is.

[Trisha Paytas]

But the audiobook, like, all the girlies that are gonna be in bed at night, like, listening, like, I. I love that more than anything, you know, and especially when it is someone whose voice, like, I always think about Julia Fox, like, her audiobook, it's like the blueprint.

[Tana Mongeau]

She was the blueprint for me to want to do a memor. Like, everybody I talked to, I was like, I love Julia Fox. Like, I love her cover. I love her. Like, I. Obviously, it's very different, but I just love how real she was. And I love her audiobook, and I love the Tik Toks that will have, like, her audio book. But, like, it's like, her pictures or, like, their pictures.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know what I mean?

[Tana Mongeau]

Someone going through the same thing, and they're, like, putting their photos to it, so. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And you're so gonna have that. Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

I do have a memoir. I'm very excited.

[Trisha Paytas]

Me, too. I love a memoir more than.

[Tana Mongeau]

Anyway, and it's yours.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm literally so, so, so excited. You've been also doing so many other big things. Are we. Let's talk about. Can we talk about Chili's? Yes.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, my God. So, yeah. Are we going on time? Yeah. Let's talk about it. Okay. So I. So weird. So, like, Chili's happened so fast, and then I was. I was. I was in there for 24 hours to do the Chili's thing, and I was, like, so gagged. I was like, oh, my God. This is, like, so crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Such a cute creative, too.

[Tana Mongeau]

They're so good. Like, the fact that, like, you know, when they Just know you and they use your, like, little memes into it. Like, it just makes you feel so, like, special. It's stuff. So that was, like, really cool. But I was there for, like, 24 hours, and then, like, on the way home, I was like, oh, my God, I can't wait to tell Tan about this. We were supposed to podcast, I think, two days later, and then that got moved. Because then you went to New York.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. And I was like, oh.

[Tana Mongeau]

Because I was like. And, like, tell you there, and then I was gonna tell you that night. And then that night was the same night you met Adam Sandler. So it's like one of those things where your friend gets, like, married and, like, another friend's pregnant. You're like, oh, I don't know who, you know, who says what news first? Because it's, like, so exciting, right? And so I was like, but the Adam Sandler one, to me, like, obviously Chili's was, like, so big, but I was like, oh, but equally as big. To me, that's a moment. I was just like, no, I like. And I. We said it beforehand. I, like, told Moses I, like, came home from the airport that night. It was like when I was coming back from New York, and It was like 11 o', clock, and I, like, woke him up and I was like, oh, my God. But you must have posted it somewhere because, like, oh, I saw it. And I was like, oh, okay. So anyways, I was, like, so excited about it, but it happened the same day, which is, like, so weird because obviously Chili's and Chandler are both of our things.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, our things. And something about destiny. To me, like, I almost just have this strong feeling that it's gonna be next. Next swapped. Like, you're meeting Adam Sandler. I'm doing something with Chili's. Like, it felt very, like, just so aligned and destiny. And even if not, though, I will say that, like, the feeling of your bestie, the feeling of your girl doing the thing. Cuz even people be like, did you see Trisha's chilies? And, like, I felt as if I did it. Like, I was like, yes, it was the best thing ever. Like. Like, it just. There's, you know, I'm. I'm so happy with life and grateful.

[Tana Mongeau]

Well, I've learned that so much from you. And I feel like that's when more things, like, come around. Because it's like, same thing. I remember when you posted skims with Buster, and everybody's like, oh, my God, Tana got skims. And like, then you get those Comments like, oh, Trish is gonna see this and be like, what? But I was like, I was so happy because that means we're in the same sphere of it where I'm like, oh, if skims is like around. If like this is around. And I thought that was. And Chili's too, because we both muckpink Chilies for so long. And I was like, oh, the fact that it's like a sponsored. And we always. And we said on that loveline, we're like, when is the chili sponsorship? Yeah, it came.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're so right. Like, it's so funny how people will try to pit women. And obviously I dealt with that so much with canceled and broken so stuff. And I just love that we're like, like, no, it doesn't even like phase me when I see a comment because I'm like, you don't understand. Like, the family won. The family.

[Tana Mongeau]

Well, because it was so weird because like you were going to New York, then the like literally the next day and Mega told me about like the brand deal you got. And I was like, oh my God. That to me is like a dream brand. So it's just like this whole again, universally aligned.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. And we both were doing food ish, like deals and stuff.

[Tana Mongeau]

Deals. And what even when you did Jack in the Box, like all those things to me is like, so because like at Jack in the Box at one point, like, we want you and Tana. But then when you did it, I was like, all of it's a win because we're in the same sphere. We've been in the same.

[Trisha Paytas]

I have one restaurant, I don't know who it's going to be that's going to want us together and we're going to double team the most fire restaurant deal I manifest.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, no, I agree. Because we're just both foodies. And I think because we've talked about food for so long, we've mukbang food for so long. It just feels nice to be seen. If I can be seen by any brand, it's going to be a food brand to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like the. It's the be all, end all. Like, I know that certain influencers have their like, oh my God, like l' Oreal sponsorship would be the biggest thing ever to me. It's like the food I eat, like, there's nothing higher. Like, it's like, oh my God. I use that. I eat that. Like, well, especially because you have the

[Tana Mongeau]

Chili's sound of the. The one in Encino. Like, I feel like that One is like a no brainer because every time, like these campaigns will use like a meme or something that you said. I think that's like so cool that we even have that catalog to pull from, you know? How about yours in New York where they. They did it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can you say, when does this come out?

[Tana Mongeau]

This will come out Monday. Or I guess we could hold it. We could do another one next week.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, we'll talk about it in the next one. Honestly, I'll tell you about it because I did something for a brand that I love, that I have so much about it never done in my life. You're gonna die. You're literally gonna die. I'm talking like random people in the public filming me in like horror in New York.

[Tana Mongeau]

I love that we were both in New York. So close because you had texted me like, are you in New York? And I was like, I literally just came back. I had to come back because I had a music video the next day that I already paid for. Otherwise I would have, like, stayed longer because I was supposed to see Whitney Levitt in Chicago that Sunday night and we had DM and she's like, oh, my God. I always bring people to the stage door. Would you want to do a stage door with me? So I was getting gonna glam. My flight was like a seven hour delay and I was like, I had everything all lined up like, theater Lee, shout out, theater Lee. We're gonna get me like, you know, backdoor X entrance into Chicago. Like they were giving. Everyone had everything lined up for me and it was like, so wonderful. I was gonna go with Lydia from caa. I was like, so excited. Mark Ballas was in at Whitney. I like, love Whitney. I'm like obsessed with Whitney. I was like, I cannot wait to see you in Chicago. And I was on delay and I felt so. And then everyone's like, can you go Monday? And I was like, I have to get home. It was so sad.

[Trisha Paytas]

But we'll be back in New York. New York will forever. Especially with this come on. Ms. Bestseller. Like, they're just. It will continue to happen.

[Tana Mongeau]

You love New York. I saw.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Tana Mongeau]

What was on your close friends. Can I say it or no?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Tana Mongeau]

That you were. You're, like, looking for someone to do a little swap, a little house swap with.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because New York's expensive as all hell. And I just, I think it's so funny, the idea of me, like finding an influencer and we house swap. Like in New York.

[Tana Mongeau]

I would do with like, Haley Bailey.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, yes.

[Tana Mongeau]

Or like 17,000amonth.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Yes.

[Tana Mongeau]

Haley Bailey.

[Trisha Paytas]

Begging, begging. I have a home. It's Amari's.

[Tana Mongeau]

Great.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, you'll have a great time.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, Ashley's a chef.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Like, oh, my God, Busters. Like, he's a vibe. Like, you know, that would actually be

[Tana Mongeau]

such a good, like, series because, like, swapping houses didn't do that back in the day.

[Trisha Paytas]

A lot of my friends do that too. Like, a lot of my, like, girls that I know, like, especially in the industry, they. They house swap in New York. And, like, obviously I put, like, must not be a thief or tweets week. Like, that was my only. Like, you can't be a thief and you can't be, like, on drugs and trying to parties in my house. But I'm looking for. Yeah. Like, if I found a little influencer girl who was kind of like me, who would do a little house swap now and again for New York, I would 100 do it.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'll swap with Michaela in Boston.

[Trisha Paytas]

Holy.

[Tana Mongeau]

I would love. I would slap with her.

[Trisha Paytas]

That would be viral as all hell. Like, it really would be. It would be.

[Makoa Moses]

I love.

[Tana Mongeau]

That'd be a fun one. I'm trying to think outside. I mean, there's so many people. Chris Olsen's in New York. I guess there's so many people we could have.

[Trisha Paytas]

We'll see. It was kind of just like a light feeler, you know, like. But New York. York is expensive, so I would, like, love to. It's funny that Mikayla announced her relationship because when I met her for the first time, she was telling me all about it and she was like, I'm never going to tell the Internet.

[Tana Mongeau]

When did you meet her first for the first time?

[Trisha Paytas]

Hannah Montana.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's the first time you met her? Why do I feel like you guys met before?

[Trisha Paytas]

No.

[Tana Mongeau]

Or just DM'd. Maybe you guys have DMs.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, we. Yeah, yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

There was, like, talks were coming on. Oh, my gosh. Wait, the Hannah Montana. Have you ever talked about that? Have you meeting her there?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know if we ever did talk about. Maybe we did. We did.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'll talk about meeting Michaela because I thought you guys did a TikTok together. Which one? She did your sound or you did hers?

[Trisha Paytas]

We did her and which one?

[Tana Mongeau]

She was the Kim Kardashian.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, you're gonna have to sit down for this. And she, like, sat on my leg. People were, like, mad. I was like, oh, my God, whatever. I don't know. I feel like people love the buzz phrase, like, The. But, like, that's not. You know what I mean? Oh, that's not. And I was like, but she sat on your leg.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm so confused.

[Trisha Paytas]

Just, like, I think people really didn't want me to, like, be with her.

[Tana Mongeau]

I guess she has so many followers and views, but then people, like, don't. I get the same criticism on the podcast because I always try to, like, defend her and be like, no, she's actually a horrible person. I'm like, oh, I, I don't, I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I just don't know. It wasn't that deep. I've been talking. I, I, I will say that I will always have a level of respect for someone where if I've made a lot of jokes about them or, like, talked a little bit, know, and kind of like, whatever, if they come up to me and they're, like, kind and laughy about it, because I think it's very easy. Like, she easily could have been like you, you know, Like, I think I have made enough jokes where we're in territory. Same with JoJo Siwa back in the day. I would always say that. And, like, no matter what people think of them, that's very human to just be like, you know what? I get it. It's the Internet. And, like, I can laugh at myself too, and, like, whatever. So I'm not just gonna, like, be mean, you know?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Was she by herself?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, she was, like, with her friend.

[Tana Mongeau]

Okay. So the boy wasn't there, but she

[Trisha Paytas]

just, it was pretty quick. Yeah, she just was like, tana. And then, like, I came over and we just, like, had a little combo, and I was like, this will be funny. A little messy, but funny. Let's, like, do this.

[Tana Mongeau]

But then she was like, I have a boyfriend.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Yeah. She told me all about the boyfriend. I don't, I don't know what's online and what's not online, but I also love that. I love the tea. I was like, oh, my God.

[Tana Mongeau]

Everything now, it was high school sweethearts, he has a twin. She post about him?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

She was telling, don't be mean. He's not ugly.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, she was telling me, like, all of that, essentially. And then I was like, oh, she posted about him.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it.

[Tana Mongeau]

I, I think the Hamilton thing was everything. I guess it was a while ago, but it was.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm loving a premiere. I'm loving a premiere.

[Tana Mongeau]

Lately, I'm like, I'm saying yes to everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

I did.

[Tana Mongeau]

Euphoria and hacks back to back. I was like.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I loved rap. The turquoise, like, blue outfit. Very cute.

[Tana Mongeau]

Very Euphoria was my cosplay. That was the one, because I hired a stylist, and I didn't love it at first, like, with the size. So then I was like, let me just do the cosplay. It was a Noemi Malone show, Girls one. But people did, like, it went with the thing, which was good. And then the next day was the hacks 1.

[Trisha Paytas]

How was the Euphoria premiere? Like, any. Like, did you see Zendaya?

[Tana Mongeau]

I did see Zendaya. And like, I. But, like, obviously they come in after. I don't think she left right away. I think she was, like, in there for a minute and then, like, left or whatever. But it was good. Have you watched any of the new season?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, I started it. I have. I've only seen episode one I'm about to watch. I can finally say that I auditioned for it and I didn't get it. Can you say, yeah, I think so.

[Tana Mongeau]

I mean, I guess it doesn't matter. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

But my role has not come up yet. So, like, I'm definitely watching, like, waiting

[Tana Mongeau]

for, like, you say.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know if I can say it until it's out, like, because I don't want to get in trouble. I know that's a big corporation. And I signed an ironclad.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I was gagged.

[Tana Mongeau]

We auditioned at the same time. She got it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't. I can.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, it was a different role because I thought it was, like, the same role, which made sense. Obviously. My role is, like, very similar to what we do. Like, it's not like, that much of a gag. So I think I thought it was the same thing. So then when you told me what you auditioned for, which is very opposite of what we do, I was like, oh.

[Trisha Paytas]

And once it comes out, I'm gonna, like, go in the full thing. I think I want to post my self tape because it's so bad.

[Tana Mongeau]

So what do you do in your self tape? Can I just ask? You have to say specific.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you get a script?

[Tana Mongeau]

I didn't have a script.

[Trisha Paytas]

I got a script and it was. Yes, but I think you didn't get a script because you were always getting that role. Like, that role is you. And, like, you. They wanted you to be you. They wanted me to be. I can't say the character's name and stuff, but do you get what I'm saying?

[Tana Mongeau]

But there was, like, speaking lines with your character.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, but I wasn't being me. I Guess. And obviously I can't act.

[Tana Mongeau]

I want to roll like that because even hacks. Well, I guess it's coming out well anyways. Well, we'll see when this has to air. But like hacks, I literally play myself. I play Trisha Paytas. So it's like. Well, I didn't even.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's my. I'm sorry. No dreams first.

[Tana Mongeau]

I love no honor for sure. When you. When like Paul Downs like, oh, we like just a role for you to be yourself. And I was like, oh, love that. No, it is a dream and euphoria. I played a version of myself too. But I like, I like, I would like the idea of being like, you

[Trisha Paytas]

know why you like it?

[Tana Mongeau]

Why?

[Trisha Paytas]

Because you're capable.

[Tana Mongeau]

I don't know. I don't know about that.

[Trisha Paytas]

You are. I would love to you. You can morph and be an act. Like acting is so perfect for you. I feel like if someone told you right now like you're a sailor in 1947 and you're going in, like you'd be able to be that. That sailor.

[Tana Mongeau]

How would you be a sailor in the 1940s?

[Trisha Paytas]

I would be Tanabojo as the sailor.

[Tana Mongeau]

I would see yourself tape. I'm the same with you. I would have put on self tape so bad. I guess I could bought the euphoria one. My God, I think I ate camp rock so hard. And Moses was all three Jonas brothers. And I'm like, I want to put that. That's so. But he didn't know he was being three different characters. He thought it was like the same character. So he's just reading them all this anyways.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I think that'd be so fun because.

[Tana Mongeau]

What do you mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like on a random Monday night, Moses is being all three Jonas brothers. Like that's so fun.

[Tana Mongeau]

I love a self tape. I love a self tape so much

[Trisha Paytas]

and it makes me want to throw up and die. Like I'm clenching the whole time. Like I just. I don't know.

[Tana Mongeau]

I had one recently and it was to be like opposite John Cena in a scene and I had to be like a French waitress. And they'll do tavern style church. I'm like, well, tavern style church is not French, but I can try. So I'm just here like, oh, welcome. So craziest. And they're like. Because they wanted it to be silly. And anyways it was so. Oh, I can't wait. I can't wait to see yours. Because it's such a different like role.

[Trisha Paytas]

It is so bad. I'M posting like, it's so cringey. I've never shown anyone in my life, by the way. The only thing cringe it is, oh my God, it's fierce.

[Tana Mongeau]

It was right at the same time. I remember it was like. Because the show's been filming for like a year. Like it was February, like 2025 when we like auditioned. But people were filming like November of last year and stuff. So that would have been so.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I was really manifesting it. I hired the acting coach. I was. I wanted it. I was down. I was down to commit because it's. I've always said that I will commit whether I like acting or not. Like, you know, if it's something that I. Because I love Euphoria. So I was like, I will absolutely commit, but as hard as is because I only had 48 hours notice too.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I think that I just. I would have needed three weeks to become that person. And you could have been Austin Butlering, like how he was just Elvis all the time. I would have had to start acting like that. Like, you know what I mean?

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, I think you would have. I actually think you would have because I think you're actually a really great actress when you like tap into it. Obviously I love you. The turnaround or, you know, it's like, whatever, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I'm so excited to see you in it because I do love Euphoria so much. Like, I'm going to scream and die. This season is interesting so far though.

[Tana Mongeau]

I like it.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's very Grand Theft Auto to me.

[Tana Mongeau]

Is that like, oh, the video game.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes, I love it.

[Tana Mongeau]

I not watching the first two seasons. I don't really know, but I love this. But it's gone up 40%. Even though people are like, oh, it's like not like what is happening, but like it's gone up in like viewership.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I guess people are watching Sydney Sweeney. I'm really excited to see that pipeline. Like her character's pipeline, I feel like is going to be very interesting and just like a hard watch, but in a good way type of thing, you know.

[Tana Mongeau]

Well, that's what's so crazy is like, obviously I never got a script for anything. Mine was all. All improv. But it's like so crazy to see where the story is. Cause like now that I know know the story and the characters, I'm like, I probably would have improvised so differently, you know what I mean? Because I had no idea. I was just like, what? Anyways, yeah, it was, it was fun. I do love A premiere. When you go to a premiere together, I was talking about that you should

[Trisha Paytas]

go to one together because I just love it. It is like, it's so fun. The only thing that I will say is that I'm never watching a movie in a corset is never going to be as fun as watching a movie in sweatpants with no makeup on.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes, you said that about Paris Hilton and I was like, that makes sense. But then now I know it's like the most wicked. We had to leave because my corset, it was so tight digging into me that I was like, I need to leave halfway through this because. Yeah, that's so embarrassing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Even at the Adam Sand, Sadie Sandler, like, roommates thing, my legs were like going numb and my toes, my shoes were off. I was like, they should really give us like a sweatpants change moment for premieres in la.

[Tana Mongeau]

Are you doing a show in Palm Springs?

[Trisha Paytas]

No.

[Tana Mongeau]

Okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

I just, it's funny. I was driving down, I saw your billboard. So I think doing shows in Palm Springs was on my mind. And I was more just using that as an analogy in my video. Like, don't break into my Coachella house. I'll probably be doing a show in Palm Springs.

[Tana Mongeau]

Crazy. Because I guess I can talk about now, obviously, Jimmy, if like you could double check with me. But like I had to cancel my shows that week and so that whole week I had to like cancel my shows cuz I have to be out of town.

[Trisha Paytas]

Should we do a Palm Spring show?

[Tana Mongeau]

Well then I was like, I canceled the show. And they were like, oh, we have to like find someone to replace you. And then Oscar's like, well, I think Tana is doing. I love it. It's funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

Be so happy because I love trickle down economics. Okay. Like I will absolutely get my out there and replace you. Half the people are pissed, Half the people are fine. We do a mukbang.

[Tana Mongeau]

Because I, I did feel bad cuz like some people are like obviously like traveling and stuff. And I was like, oh, I feel bad, I have to cancel this. And then I think Tiana's doing a show there.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I was like, I was just using it as an analogy, I think struggling it.

[Tana Mongeau]

What if that happens?

[Trisha Paytas]

If it does, I'm down.

[Tana Mongeau]

I said that. I was like, you should ask. Because honestly, like, I felt really bad. I really wanted to do it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Even planning our show and stuff. I'm really like. And after I'm home for a certain amount of time, I definitely do start to really miss touring. So I'm Excited to just see where the world goes. You know, I've been having a lot of people comment that I should name my podcast Tangent or, like, Tan Agent. Like, and my podcast already has a name, so I can't do that. I've shot too much stuff. Even though it's a great name.

[Tana Mongeau]

Cover art. Is that done?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Do you want to see?

[Tana Mongeau]

I need to see. Cuz, like, even that lore of the photo shoot, like, I'm so. I was telling Moses, like, secondhand these stories that, like, I was not getting the details all the way. Way when I tell a story, it's like telephone. It's like, I don't know if I'm getting all the details right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Cover art photo shoot ended up being forty grillion dollars.

[Tana Mongeau]

And is it everything, though? Are you happy with it?

[Trisha Paytas]

I am very, very happy with it. I mean, the grilling of it all was fierce, but I do really like it.

[Tana Mongeau]

That is crazy for a bunch of.

[Trisha Paytas]

It doesn't have text or anything yet. Where is it? Oh, Like, me. Me running this vibe, but, like, all the chaos and.

[Tana Mongeau]

Are you gonna put the title here or were you doing the title? Yeah, not a title.

[Trisha Paytas]

There needs to be more papers flying here. This is. I have this person. I wanted this person to be giving, like, Hollywood fix slash, like, almost do brick, like, paying homage to that era.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, my.

[Trisha Paytas]

So, like, I need one with their face.

[Tana Mongeau]

There's so much happening. This is. Wow. It's kind of giving, like, Demi's album cover too, where she had.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, it is very. Like, I've never shot a podcast cover anything in my life that felt like an album cover. Versions of myself. Like, I love all the.

[Tana Mongeau]

All the.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I'm. I'm so.

[Tana Mongeau]

You know the words everything have. No. You really are. Does that simplify anything symbolic?

[Trisha Paytas]

I love a good iguana. Okay. It was. I love putting iguanas on my head and stuff. Like when I go to Mexico. Yes, I do.

[Makoa Moses]

There is.

[Tana Mongeau]

There's lore.

[Trisha Paytas]

Every time I'm in Cabo, I put an iguana on my head. I love. I love reptiles. It was actually supposed to be a monkey, though, and we just couldn't find a monkey. And they were like, iguana. This sounds insane, by the way, with no context.

[Tana Mongeau]

I feel like I need a full episode. Maybe one day you come on just Trish and I feel like Oscar gave me a dissertation of, like, tana lore because you'll, like, tell me stuff like dirty door and, like, it's like, new to me and. But then I'll like, ask Oscar. Like, oh, yeah. Like, because he's like, obviously, like, followed all your journey too. And it's like, with you, like, we

[Trisha Paytas]

both have a lifetime of lore.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yours is like. You're like, oh, yeah, iguana. In my head. I was like, what?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yours is the same, though. Like, we.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes, but not as much. There's no. You need three books. Because there's like, oh, that's my lord, the iguana. In my head.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, you could do three books in a heartbeat.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's why I don't leave my apartment.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's why we're a dynamic duo, you know, because we have a lot of lore.

[Tana Mongeau]

First of all, that's everything, though. That's a really good cover. I love it. Oh, my God. That's what I'm saying. I feel like everything's so aligned, like, everything we work on with, like, music and books. It's like, everything. When you start talking about your book, that's when I finally was like, oh, I should tell her about my book. So, like, I don't know where you're talking. Like, oh, I have a book too. You know what I mean? Because we were just working on so many of the same things and even going to New York at the same time. I was like, what? This is so weird. And I even was like, because the Chili's built a pop up shop in Union Square. So I was like, maybe she's going for that. Like, I know you like this whole thing. You never know at New York.

[Trisha Paytas]

And no, it's, it is. It feels so cool to just have someone who understands you on. Because our lives are very different, you know? Like, you know what I mean? You don't, you don't come across many people who understand you on a way where they truly, truly, truly get it because they're living it. And to have so many parallels with someone that you love so much is like the greatest blessing, the grand, grandest, like, blessing ever. And I'm so excited to launch my podcast and to have this and like, you have just. Trish, you have this. And like, just. I. I love where life is at.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, I agree.

[Trisha Paytas]

Just like, beyond the, like, gratitude doesn't even express how I feel because it's like disbelief as well. Like, just holy. I can't believe this is my life all the time, good and bad, you know, Even when the bad stuff happens, I'm like, you know what? Like, like, who cares? Life is so good.

[Tana Mongeau]

I agree with that too. Yeah, you just gotta just let it roll off. I mean, I always have Bad days too. And just, like, who cares? Like, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And there is something to be said as well about, like, even just when things are going wrong, whether it's like, this, the office space and the set, and, like, those girls breaking into my Coachella house and stuff. As I, like, get older, I'm like, I am. I can handle this. And I don't need to be frantic about it, and I don't need to, Like, I'm equipped. Like, as you get older, you become so much more equipped to be, like, the boss woman who's comfortable in the life versus, like, you know, question.

[Tana Mongeau]

We're done. We'll do a quick one,

[Trisha Paytas]

because in Vegas, this is. We're gonna be doing this.

[Caller]

Okay, So I have a really odd situation, and I'm not even kidding. You guys were the first people I thought to call. So me and my boyfriend, we've been together for a year, and I've met his family, his mom, his sister, and he's definitely a mama's boy. And he's got, like, a super close relationship with his little sister. And. And he's visiting them right now. I'm not with them. And he FaceTimed me in the morning, and he is cuddling with his little sister in bed and, like, kissing her on the head. He's 32 and she's 19. Am I weird for thinking that that is weird, or is that actually weird? Feel like I have boundaries around it, and I'm just like, it's not comfortable with me. But what do you guys think? Am I being the weirdo or are they. Let me know. Love you guys. Bye.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sister. Little sister. Her boyfriend's little sister. Oh, kiss on the head and cuddling in bed.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, okay. I missed half the call. I was like, kiss me on the head's not bad. Cuddling in bed's crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

I. And listen, I didn't have a family until I was about 13, so maybe my. A little skewed. Okay.

[Tana Mongeau]

I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess I would cuddle with Amari, but Amari's gay and we're similar in age, and, like, oh, my God. I don't like it. I don't know. I don't like it. Like, I. I will say, like, Makoa has a little sister who he's very close with, but she's little. Like, she's like 11 or 12. So, like, if I FaceTime him, and she had fallen asleep in his bed, and he was like, good morning. And, like, he kisses her on the head and, like, calls her angel and, like, all these things. And I love that it's like. But it's very fatherly because of their age gap. Like, he is almost like a pseudo father in her life. Whereas, like, Yeah. I don't know. 32 and 19, though, like, that gap is still, like, obviously when he was, like, 19 or whatever, she was a baby. Like, maybe he does have a fatherly relationship with her. Like, there's definitely a benefit of the doubt there. But I also think that by the time Nicole was 32 and his little sister's 19. I don't necessarily. I don't know.

[Tana Mongeau]

I don't know either, because I don't know. I also don't know what, like, healthy boundaries are. My brother. I don't even hug.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

I mean, I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, that's what I'm saying. I don't know what the healthy boundaries

[Tana Mongeau]

here are either, because it's like. It's very much like kissing your kids on the lips. Some people are like, that's so disgusting. Don't do that with your kids. And somebody. It's literally my child, like, I'm kissing. I think Tom Brady was like, yeah. Would kiss his kid on the lip. And I thought it was weird. I was weirdly on the side of, like. I mean, it's. I. I kissed my parents on the lips. I don't know. I didn't think it was weird. And then after that, I was like, I'm gonna stop caring to my parents on the lips. I guess it's kind of weird. Yeah. I guess at a certain age, you stop. I don't know. I guess people make things weird when they're weird, I feel.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because, yeah, we've definitely also societally gone so far where every. Because so many people have done awful things, though. I think that. That, like, things are ostracized, I guess, to, like, be weirder than they have to be. But, like, my immediate reaction to this call was. And I, like. Like, that's my immediate reaction. But then as I start to think about it, it could be completely normal. Yeah. I feel like what I would do is just have an open conversation about it. Like, I would just be like, listen, like, I don't have this dynamic in my family. And so this dynamic to me.

[Tana Mongeau]

Explain it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Yes. Explain it to me. Literally. Like, I just, like, you know, because, like, what if he just comes back and he's like, we do. I. I'm like a father to her, and I love her and I don't spend time with her. And, like, we've always done this since we were kids and, like, you know, like, just we were watching like, a movie as siblings and, like, fell asleep and I, like, love her and I would kill for her. And, like, it's completely normal or like, it's. I don't know, dude.

[Tana Mongeau]

Let us know in the comments. That's a question. Because it's like, it kind of goes both ways. Yeah. My initial reaction was ew. But then I, like, was like, maybe it's innocent. I'm just, like, skewed because I'm like.

[Trisha Paytas]

That part. Yeah, that part. I'm kind. Yeah, I'm kind of like. I think that so many scenarios like this, like, all it takes is an open conversation. Because also, truly, I think if you're with the right partner and you were like, that makes me really uncomfortable. It feels like, too intimate for me. The right partner would, like, adjust that for you. Like, you come first. So that will also tell you, like, everything that you need to know, like, in that regard. Regard. You know, I agree with the caller.

[Tana Mongeau]

If it was me, I would definitely be like, this is weird.

[Trisha Paytas]

Me too.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's okay that you think that. But yeah, maybe having the conversation and being like, sometimes if it's too much for you. I was like that. I briefly dated someone who had, like, a weird relationship with him. Not weird. It could be normal, I suppose. But he was like, that was his mom. He was very, like, cuddly with her and they were always, like, rubbing each other's backs and I guess I could.

[Trisha Paytas]

Mom, I'm serious. So, like, I know the. And then I dated people who were just really close with their mom and it's completely normal. Like, it's.

[Tana Mongeau]

Right. It.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's. There's definitely a spectrum and it's all anecdotal. Right. You know what I mean? Like, they could be doing things that are too far and if he's the right person, he will mediate that. But also, I think sometimes she's calling us for advice. But what I think that she really needs is more clarity on this specific situation. And if he's the right partner, he's going to give that to you. And yeah, I don't think that this is something that's be all end all. I think that, like, more information and adjusting accordingly could easily remedy how you're feeling.

[Tana Mongeau]

Feeling. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And we love you. And. Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Sir Colin. Wow. What a show. I loved it. We get, like, so up and down and I love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

We really, really do arrange it's. And that's. I'm so excited. I'm Promoting our Vegas show. Okay. I was gonna segue all professionally. I was about to be like, that's what I'm excited about for our Vegas show. And it's like, okay.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm so excited. I feel like, because June, I really have it blocked off in my head. It's like all of June, those June 12th. But it's like, I have it. I walked out those first two weeks. We can do a full two week rehearsal at center stage. Have you been to center staging?

[Trisha Paytas]

No. And I like, my rehearsals have always really been like, from my living room. Because all my shows that your shows are much more musical and talking and not talking and musical and like dancing and like different things. So I've never needed serious rehearsals. Like, we kind of will just talk out the bits, like in my living room. Whereas, like, I'm excited to go to a space and so fun. It is a true conglomeration of the both of us, which I think makes. Makes it such an anomaly, like once in a lifetime type of show because it's the. It's very like yappy and me, but also singing in you and like, you.

[Tana Mongeau]

I think it was Oscar who's like, tana needs to make a music comeback. He literally said that yesterday. And I was like, I think like, we're going to.

[Trisha Paytas]

I have some studio sessions this week. And I'm really, really excited because we also had a big compromise. I think, like, you're very sweet. I know you wanted me to do a lot of my old music. And I was like, I would literally rather make an EP right now than do my old music. So I think that's what doing.

[Tana Mongeau]

I think I'm gonna do her old songs.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes. And I'm gonna do my song.

[Trisha Paytas]

We're gonna do a little. A little mashup.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's how I feel after 35 cities of I love you, Jesus. I'm like, I think I need a break from that. But I'm happy to do. Need some other FaceTime.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Just saying I'm ready for it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. And I'm excited for like the tea. I think we'll come up with some Vegas stories and lore and have some people come out to kind of help us with that. And like, we've been talking about openers. It's a. It's a serious, like, variety show, which is really cool. We gotta get the Blue Man Group on the phone, like, happening. Thank Hootie.

[Tana Mongeau]

I don't know if it's that we're trying to make it happen. I mean, I promise anything but Yeah. I also really do. Aside from our show, I really do want to do, like, my Vegas with you. Even though you're, like, Queen of Vegas. I really want to do, like, Donny Osman Harris. Yes. I think that's at 5.

[Trisha Paytas]

We should block off a few days and be in Vegas. You don't have to twist my arm to be in Vegas for a few days. That's all I ever want.

[Tana Mongeau]

Do the Mega Benihana. That's, like, five stories long in the West. Yes. And then I would love to. A Backstreet Boys sphere.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would love to sphere. We should sphere it up with Holly. I also would love to do some, like, thrifting.

[Caller]

Like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, find a cool, vintage antique store off the Strip with, like, very Vegas, like, Betty Boop Elvis memorabilia. Get stuff like that with you.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's fun.

[Trisha Paytas]

And it won't be raining, so.

[Tana Mongeau]

Let's hope not.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. It's in June. It's gonna be hot. Maybe we'll get a little matching something again.

[Tana Mongeau]

I love it. Yeah. Would you get a new one? You're, like, layering the necklaces. Oh, you got another bracelet. The gold, too.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I got the pave. I think I was manic. I King Kylie doll.

[Tana Mongeau]

How many did you get?

[Trisha Paytas]

Two. Well, actually, four.

[Tana Mongeau]

Three.

[Trisha Paytas]

Three.

[Tana Mongeau]

Okay. Oh, my God. Are the nails in the Cartier. They're all new. The four.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, no, no, no. Just, like, some love bracelets and with this diamond.

[Tana Mongeau]

The nail one over here. That's not new.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, that's Tiffany. That was like, when they made up for the blue box being a sham.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, I see.

[Trisha Paytas]

Whatever.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, my. You had to bum.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it was to, like, I'm going to engrave them the name of my podcast. And that's. You should get that to symbolize this era, but also, like, oh, my God, whatever.

[Tana Mongeau]

So I was like, damn.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then the gold.

[Tana Mongeau]

Is the gold new?

[Trisha Paytas]

The gold is also new. Yes.

[Tana Mongeau]

I saw you, like, layering the van clean. Shopping happen.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's crazy. This, like, whatever. I. I love to shop.

[Tana Mongeau]

You have a lot to celebrate.

[Trisha Paytas]

As long as you're donating what you're shopping. That's.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is the. That is the bare minimum. And then continuing to do more. And I'll shut myself.

[Tana Mongeau]

All right, thanks. Two hours later. Bye.