Not Loveline Episode Summary
Episode: "NEW PODCASTS, TOURING, AND PODCASTING WITH MEN"
Hosts: Tana Mongeau & Trish Paytas
Date: December 8, 2025
Episode Overview
This week's episode celebrates a full year of Not Loveline with Tana Mongeau and Trish Paytas, diving into touring, their friendship, show business war stories, all things podcasting (including their experiences with male-dominated shows), and lots of real talk about navigating vulnerability in the spotlight. The duo also takes listener calls for show/film recs and advice about supporting family through crisis, all while maintaining their signature mix of humor, candor, and heartfelt relatability.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. The Holiday Season, Wintertime Vibes, and Tan Maintenance
- The episode opens with the hosts joking about how early it gets dark and discussing the hassle of keeping up spray tans during winter.
- Trish: Shares she loves being pale for the low maintenance (02:20).
- Tana: Recounts a spray tan disaster in Vegas, “my tan was cracking off… looked like something to be studied” (01:58).
2. Behind the Scenes: Prosthetic & SFX Fails
- Tana’s Halloween/“Substance” Costume: She describes sitting for 5-6 hours in prosthetics. The discomfort was so bad she ended up with bruises and bleeding when it came off.
- Tana: "I sat in prosthetics… for like five and a half, six hours. It is so overstimulating and kind of painful..." (03:36)
- Trish recalls: her partner's struggle filming a music video in SFX makeup (with literal sand under contacts) and empathizes with anyone in the FX world (05:10).
3. Successes, Setbacks, and Mixed Emotions in Hollywood
- Tana's Project Goes to Tubi: The women discuss a recently crowdfunded show Tana worked on that was picked up by a streaming platform.
- Ambivalence: Tana is happy for the project’s success but still feels lingering personal “trauma” from that day on set, especially being disbelieved by others.
- Quote - Tana: “I had a bad day on a set in Hollywood, which happens… I wanted to stand up for that and speak my truth…” (08:39)
- They reflect on supporting others’ big wins while honoring your mixed feelings: “Two things can be true” (12:28).
4. The Nature of Magnum Opus & Creative Work
- Trish: Asks about the meaning of “magnum opus.”
- Tana explains: “…a writer or, like, a creator’s greatest work.” (12:43)
- They joke about what their own “magnum opus” would be (hair, makeup, etc.).
5. TV, Movie, and Podcast Recommendations (Listener Call)
- Caller asks for recs after loving “Gone Girl” and “I Love LA.”
- Favorites discussed:
- “I Love LA” (Rachel Sennott’s satire praised for its LA in-jokes and realness)
- “All’s Fair” with Kim Kardashian, described as totally “camp” (21:19)
- “Drop Dead Diva” (Trish’s retro pick, a lawyer-trope show she adored as a plus-size viewer)
- “Welcome to Derry” (horror, Stephen King universe)
- “Heated Rivalry” (drama currently trending on Max)
- Tana: “Anything Kim Kardashian does, let alone act, people are gonna have a lot to say about it. But I think it’s so camp…” (21:31)
6. Reflections on One Year of Not Loveline & Friendship Evolution
- The hosts mark their one-year podcast anniversary, reminiscing about their bond, milestones, and support from their community (25:06).
- Trish: “I have no friends. I want no friends. And so people like to see the evolution of a friendship.” (26:45)
- Both express pride and gratitude for friendship growth, emphasizing overcoming past “friendship trauma.”
7. Podcasting Overload & Guest Anxiety
- Tana: Talks about being on “900 podcasts” (30:30).
- Admits saying yes out of “the goddamn fear” that she’s not doing enough, leading to overbooking.
- Challenges include lack of editorial control on some pods and the social battery drain: “Some people will not give you edit control, which—” (33:13).
- Trish: “But I love that you’re charitable and you’re like, let me give it to everyone else…” (36:06)
8. Plans for 2026: Books, New Pods, and Staying True
- Tana Teases: She’s working on a book, wants her next phase to carry meaning, and won’t just “do canceled again.”
- Intent on “protecting her peace” and making her new project reflect her growth (41:19).
- Appreciation for being part of the podcast space, but thoughtful about future projects (“I want to make sure… it’s not just some bull for money” – 40:46).
9. Podcasting with Men: Straight Podcast Struggles
- The duo discusses how male podcast audiences (like Logan Paul’s, Jeff FM, etc.) respond differently to women, often more harshly or with misogyny.
- Trish: “Impulsive… the most disastrous podcast I’ve ever been on. That was like Flop Tropica.” (43:43)
- Tana: Empathizes with being in uncomfortable “boys club” interview atmospheres and the contrast to their safer, girl-centered podspace.
10. Mom-Shaming & Online Hate
- They discuss Bobby Althoff’s struggles with mom-shaming online, the double standard of sharing your kids (showing vs. not showing), and the general misogyny women face in public spaces.
11. Advice: Supporting Family Through Crisis (Listener Call)
- Listener calls in about her dad suffering a stroke and asks for advice on coping.
- Tana: “There are no right words to say… just give yourself so much grace. However you need to process this, do that.” (49:03)
- Both recommend support groups, leaning into community, and emphasize the right to grieve “minute by minute.”
Notable Quotes & Moments
- Tana on prosthetics: "To have everyone you love look at you so disgusted… people turning heads in traffic and on the street…” (04:36)
- On supporting others’ success: “Two things can be true… I had a bad day… I wanted to stand up for that and speak my truth…” (08:39)
- On LA satire: “Every single character is a real person that I know… Rachel’s character is just like one of my best friends” (20:17)
- On friendship growth: “It still feels like Not Loveline is our baby in some ways… People being like, this is inspiring to see… you girls have been through so much, and you came together at a time where you were both ready for this type of friendship.” (26:08)
- Trish on straight podcasts: “I can have chemistry with almost anybody. And that show [Impulsive] was like the opposite of chemistry… That was like Flop Tropica.” (43:43)
- Tana on seeking help: "Don’t fight to not go through something alone… there are so many out there who can give you advice or insight into a similar situation…” (52:04)
- On future goals: “I just want to help people significantly more than I ever think I did… that is not the goal with whatever I do next.” (41:19)
Important Timestamps
- 01:58 – Tana’s spray tan/makeup disaster
- 03:36 – Prosthetics/Halloween SFX horror stories
- 08:39 – “Two things can be true”; processing Hollywood drama
- 12:43 – Magnum opus chat
- 18:36 – Listener call: show/podcast recommendations
- 20:17 – “I Love LA” and the reality of LA life
- 25:06 – Celebrating one year of Not Loveline and their friendship
- 30:30 – Tana’s podcast overload; guest experiences
- 33:13 – The problem of edit control on other podcasts
- 41:19 – Tana’s plans for next year; meaning and intention
- 43:43 – Trish on disastrous male podcast experiences
- 49:03 – Advice call: supporting a parent after a stroke; coping with grief
Tone & Final Thoughts
The episode radiates Tana and Trish’s signature blend of brash humor, mutual support, and dark honesty about life, career, and friendship after public setbacks. Both women embrace the tension between ambition and self-care, creative highs and lows, and balancing audience expectation with authenticity. This episode is full of both laughs and moments of genuine vulnerability, offering relatable wisdom and solidarity—particularly for listeners navigating their own “new normals,” whether in grief, creative projects, or friendship.
Bottom Line:
A candid, funny, and heartfelt catch-up loaded with honest takes on work, fame, friendship, and being a woman in the podcasting/entertainment world. Plus: juicy show recs, SFX horror stories, friendship glow-ups, and real-world advice for tough family moments. If you haven’t listened, this episode is a must for fans and newcomers alike.