NEW PODCASTS, TOURING, AND PODCASTING WITH MEN

Summary

Not Loveline Episode Summary

Episode: "NEW PODCASTS, TOURING, AND PODCASTING WITH MEN"

Hosts: Tana Mongeau & Trish Paytas
Date: December 8, 2025

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Episode Overview

This week's episode celebrates a full year of Not Loveline with Tana Mongeau and Trish Paytas, diving into touring, their friendship, show business war stories, all things podcasting (including their experiences with male-dominated shows), and lots of real talk about navigating vulnerability in the spotlight. The duo also takes listener calls for show/film recs and advice about supporting family through crisis, all while maintaining their signature mix of humor, candor, and heartfelt relatability.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Holiday Season, Wintertime Vibes, and Tan Maintenance

• The episode opens with the hosts joking about how early it gets dark and discussing the hassle of keeping up spray tans during winter.
• Trish: Shares she loves being pale for the low maintenance (02:20).
• Tana: Recounts a spray tan disaster in Vegas, “my tan was cracking off… looked like something to be studied” (01:58).

2. Behind the Scenes: Prosthetic & SFX Fails

• Tana’s Halloween/“Substance” Costume: She describes sitting for 5-6 hours in prosthetics. The discomfort was so bad she ended up with bruises and bleeding when it came off.
• Tana: "I sat in prosthetics… for like five and a half, six hours. It is so overstimulating and kind of painful..." (03:36)
• Trish recalls: her partner's struggle filming a music video in SFX makeup (with literal sand under contacts) and empathizes with anyone in the FX world (05:10).

3. Successes, Setbacks, and Mixed Emotions in Hollywood

• Tana's Project Goes to Tubi: The women discuss a recently crowdfunded show Tana worked on that was picked up by a streaming platform.
• Ambivalence: Tana is happy for the project’s success but still feels lingering personal “trauma” from that day on set, especially being disbelieved by others.
• Quote - Tana: “I had a bad day on a set in Hollywood, which happens… I wanted to stand up for that and speak my truth…” (08:39)
• They reflect on supporting others’ big wins while honoring your mixed feelings: “Two things can be true” (12:28).

4. The Nature of Magnum Opus & Creative Work

• Trish: Asks about the meaning of “magnum opus.”
• Tana explains: “…a writer or, like, a creator’s greatest work.” (12:43)
• They joke about what their own “magnum opus” would be (hair, makeup, etc.).

5. TV, Movie, and Podcast Recommendations (Listener Call)

• Caller asks for recs after loving “Gone Girl” and “I Love LA.”
• Favorites discussed:
  • “I Love LA” (Rachel Sennott’s satire praised for its LA in-jokes and realness)
  • “All’s Fair” with Kim Kardashian, described as totally “camp” (21:19)
  • “Drop Dead Diva” (Trish’s retro pick, a lawyer-trope show she adored as a plus-size viewer)
  • “Welcome to Derry” (horror, Stephen King universe)
  • “Heated Rivalry” (drama currently trending on Max)
• Tana: “Anything Kim Kardashian does, let alone act, people are gonna have a lot to say about it. But I think it’s so camp…” (21:31)

6. Reflections on One Year of Not Loveline & Friendship Evolution

• The hosts mark their one-year podcast anniversary, reminiscing about their bond, milestones, and support from their community (25:06).
• Trish: “I have no friends. I want no friends. And so people like to see the evolution of a friendship.” (26:45)
• Both express pride and gratitude for friendship growth, emphasizing overcoming past “friendship trauma.”

7. Podcasting Overload & Guest Anxiety

• Tana: Talks about being on “900 podcasts” (30:30).
• Admits saying yes out of “the goddamn fear” that she’s not doing enough, leading to overbooking.
• Challenges include lack of editorial control on some pods and the social battery drain: “Some people will not give you edit control, which—” (33:13).
• Trish: “But I love that you’re charitable and you’re like, let me give it to everyone else…” (36:06)

8. Plans for 2026: Books, New Pods, and Staying True

• Tana Teases: She’s working on a book, wants her next phase to carry meaning, and won’t just “do canceled again.”
• Intent on “protecting her peace” and making her new project reflect her growth (41:19).
• Appreciation for being part of the podcast space, but thoughtful about future projects (“I want to make sure… it’s not just some bull for money” – 40:46).

9. Podcasting with Men: Straight Podcast Struggles

• The duo discusses how male podcast audiences (like Logan Paul’s, Jeff FM, etc.) respond differently to women, often more harshly or with misogyny.
• Trish: “Impulsive… the most disastrous podcast I’ve ever been on. That was like Flop Tropica.” (43:43)
• Tana: Empathizes with being in uncomfortable “boys club” interview atmospheres and the contrast to their safer, girl-centered podspace.

10. Mom-Shaming & Online Hate

• They discuss Bobby Althoff’s struggles with mom-shaming online, the double standard of sharing your kids (showing vs. not showing), and the general misogyny women face in public spaces.

11. Advice: Supporting Family Through Crisis (Listener Call)

• Listener calls in about her dad suffering a stroke and asks for advice on coping.
• Tana: “There are no right words to say… just give yourself so much grace. However you need to process this, do that.” (49:03)
• Both recommend support groups, leaning into community, and emphasize the right to grieve “minute by minute.”

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Tana on prosthetics: "To have everyone you love look at you so disgusted… people turning heads in traffic and on the street…” (04:36)
• On supporting others’ success: “Two things can be true… I had a bad day… I wanted to stand up for that and speak my truth…” (08:39)
• On LA satire: “Every single character is a real person that I know… Rachel’s character is just like one of my best friends” (20:17)
• On friendship growth: “It still feels like Not Loveline is our baby in some ways… People being like, this is inspiring to see… you girls have been through so much, and you came together at a time where you were both ready for this type of friendship.” (26:08)
• Trish on straight podcasts: “I can have chemistry with almost anybody. And that show [Impulsive] was like the opposite of chemistry… That was like Flop Tropica.” (43:43)
• Tana on seeking help: "Don’t fight to not go through something alone… there are so many out there who can give you advice or insight into a similar situation…” (52:04)
• On future goals: “I just want to help people significantly more than I ever think I did… that is not the goal with whatever I do next.” (41:19)

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Important Timestamps

• 01:58 – Tana’s spray tan/makeup disaster
• 03:36 – Prosthetics/Halloween SFX horror stories
• 08:39 – “Two things can be true”; processing Hollywood drama
• 12:43 – Magnum opus chat
• 18:36 – Listener call: show/podcast recommendations
• 20:17 – “I Love LA” and the reality of LA life
• 25:06 – Celebrating one year of Not Loveline and their friendship
• 30:30 – Tana’s podcast overload; guest experiences
• 33:13 – The problem of edit control on other podcasts
• 41:19 – Tana’s plans for next year; meaning and intention
• 43:43 – Trish on disastrous male podcast experiences
• 49:03 – Advice call: supporting a parent after a stroke; coping with grief

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Tone & Final Thoughts

The episode radiates Tana and Trish’s signature blend of brash humor, mutual support, and dark honesty about life, career, and friendship after public setbacks. Both women embrace the tension between ambition and self-care, creative highs and lows, and balancing audience expectation with authenticity. This episode is full of both laughs and moments of genuine vulnerability, offering relatable wisdom and solidarity—particularly for listeners navigating their own “new normals,” whether in grief, creative projects, or friendship.

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Bottom Line:
A candid, funny, and heartfelt catch-up loaded with honest takes on work, fame, friendship, and being a woman in the podcasting/entertainment world. Plus: juicy show recs, SFX horror stories, friendship glow-ups, and real-world advice for tough family moments. If you haven’t listened, this episode is a must for fans and newcomers alike.

Transcript

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Kids, they grow up so fast. One day they're taking their first steps and the next they don't fit into the tiny sneakers they took them in. You blink your eyes and their princess dress is two sizes too small. And their dinosaur backpack isn't cool anymore. But don't cry because they're growing up. Smile because you can profit off of it for real. There are a bunch of parents on Depop looking for the stuff your kid just grew out of. Download Depop to start selling. Well, I don't want to say suppress my trauma because Jesus. What like, you know, and like, obviously trauma is also like a huge word to use. But at the same time, it was like a day that definitely opened my eyes to some stuff.

[B]

And I feel like one time on like one of the podcasts we do, I feel like you were like. I want to say like not say yes to every podcast ever. And I feel like I've seen you on every podcast ever in the past. Like.

You'Ve been like 900 podcasts.

Hello and welcome back to Not Loveline.

[A]

Not Loveline After Dark.

[B]

Because it's literally dark outside and it.

[A]

Gets dark so early.

[B]

Yeah, it was dark when he came here. Like 4 o', clock, it was dark.

[A]

I know it's not good for a girl like me. Just I cuz I don't wake up any earlier because you're just like in.

[B]

Darkness the whole time you're awake.

[A]

Yes. Just getting paler and paler, by the way, minute. But you are.

[B]

I was gonna say I can't see now.

[A]

I'm embracing the pale today.

[B]

Yeah, in the wintertime you have to. It's like just the season I was.

[A]

In Vegas and my tan was cracking off in a way that just looked like the in between. It actually looked like, like something to be studied. Oh. And I was just like, I'm always trying to fool people. You know what I mean?

[B]

That's.

[A]

That's what I've learned is it was like when my hair was this long with the long extensions. It's like nobody believes you. Same thing with the tan, I'm just. I'm trying.

[B]

It's just like, I. I do love a pale. I. I'm, like, doing my shows now, so I've been doing spray tans, but I do. I love being pale because it's just so less maintenance. Not even the aesthetic. I'm trying to get to, like, the aesthetic, but it's not what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, but it's freeing.

[A]

A tan, a good tan, it lasts for, like, a couple days, right? You have, like, four or five days of it being good. But, like, that day five to, like, 10 before you reset to get the new one is, like, scaly. That's the best word I know how to, like, describe even with the best tan. Like, it has to come off of your no matter what. And, like, therefore, like, some people are really good about, like, scrubbing it off the second to look. No, I let it ride.

[B]

I would do spray tan on top of spray tan. Like, no, you got scrub off the old one. Like, no, just layer it.

[A]

Yes, 100%. I'm. It's. I look like this chair, like, half of the time. Just like.

[B]

We never talked about it. We don't, like, talk about too much because it's, like, so, like, old now because it's literally December. But your substance costume, we never got to, like, debrief.

[A]

I still haven't uploaded the vlog, so let me just tell you something.

[B]

How did you find the special effects person? Like, how did it all go down?

[A]

I honestly, Meg is like, the sweetest angel in the world. And because everyone who normally I would hit up for special effects was, like, busy, and it was one of those things where I really should have just given up on it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And Meg, like, found these amazing girls in the last minute, but it was Trisha. I've never felt just more admiration, even seeing Jacob Elordi go through the, like, Frankenstein and, like, even, like, how Jim Carrey with the Grinch, like, and obviously Tana Mongeau as the substance is nothing like either one of those people in those amazing roles. I'm not saying that, but I sat in prosthetics just for neck up and hands and wrists for, like, five and a half, six hours. It is so over stimulating and, like, kind of painful, like, even. And, like, obviously once they get it on, that's one thing. But then they're, like, spraying freckles like, they were airbrushing me. I was, like, hacking because of the fumes, like, which is crazy because I vape. It's like nothing makes sense. Here. But it's true. Like, it took so long, and then to have everyone you love look at you, so disgusted. Like, people turning heads in traffic and on the street, like, it just.

[B]

Oh, did you go out in public and do it?

[A]

Well, I was shooting at several locations, so I had to, like, encounter a lot of people, and then it wouldn't come off my skin. I have dry skin. And they. She. They were telling me they were, like, one in every couple hundred people. Like, this happens. So, like, this is happening to you, and, like, it's just. It is what it is. You have dry skin, and we put it on, like, too tight and, like, whatever. And they were super sweet. And this happens. It wasn't anything bad on them. But when it came off of me, like, I was bleeding. Like, I. Like. And I had, like, bruises. Like, literally, like, bruises from the same day, which is crazy. Like, it just. And my skin hurt for days.

[B]

Like, so, like, never again.

[A]

Like, ever.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Like, ever. And I thought of you because I know that originally you wanted to do it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Where you were that. And I was Sue.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I was like, oh, my. I don't even know what you would have done. Like, it was the crazy.

[B]

I have a baby when it comes to stuff like that, for sure.

[A]

It was so, like, intense. And I, like, completely just respect people who do things like that for a living. Those girls were so talented, too. Like, so cool. But, like, if I. I could never imagine being in a lifestyle or a job where you have to do that every day.

[B]

Yeah. No, that is intense. Moses did Shape of Water for one of my music videos, and he got the people who worked on the original Shape of Water suit. Yeah. And it was, like, crazy. It was in my air where I'm just, like, blowing all my money. This was for, like, Malibu or anybody. So I was just like, oh, let me just spend $50,000 on this. You know, like, just something crazy. And it was great. But it took, like, yeah. Eight hours to do. And he'd, like. You know, he's. He hates, like, when, like, a collar is too high, so it's just, like, really uncomfortable. And then we had to go underwater to get, like, that sinking scene. And in order to get the sinking scene, we had to be, like. We had. We had to go down with sandbags to, like, bring us to the bottom of the pool, which was, like, fine. But then the sand started getting into his eyes where the colored contacts were, like, the yellow. So there was, like, sand Sam, like, scraping against these, like, behind. Like, he thought he went Blind, like afterwards, like, and he was not complaining because it was like early on to us dating. We were like engaged or something.

[A]

That's actually really sweet.

[B]

Yeah. And like. But the next day, like, he couldn't see. Like, he couldn't open his eyes. He's like, it's too painful. And then he tried to open his eyes. He's like, I can't see. I can't see. Like he thought he was literally not gonna ever see again. You're on a new TV show.

Sorry, we had a pause. I don't know how to come back from that.

[A]

We were dealing with some off camera stuff. We're back now. That is so funny.

[B]

Congrats.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

I'm so excited for you. I love to be. Yeah, I like, so excited. I'm like, oh, my God.

[A]

Well, because we found out, like, well, I mean, whatever. We were in the car in New York and stuff. And I'm. Someone got that to be check. And I'm so grateful that they did. You know what I mean? And it's. Yeah, I've been.

There's a lot of stands for the actual show. You know what I mean? Like, people who really, like. Yeah. Love the show. And I've been seeing a lot of people and that makes me happy.

[B]

Well, they crowdfunded it, right? That was the whole point. They raised $150,000 to do that. It was supposed to be one episode.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I honestly don't want movie or whatever.

[A]

Yeah. I don't know much more. I've just. Whenever I see Stan accounts happy about something. Like, that's very sweet that something gets brought together and I. It's like. Like Joey's been texting me about it and stuff. And I feel bad because I haven't been responding because I just like associate it with this moment and like this.

[B]

Like, you want to move forward.

[A]

This like, feeling. You know what I mean? It's. It's always like a. And it doesn't even have anything really to do with him. You know what I mean? It was like other people not believing me and like, you know, like, I don't. And he sent me flowers and like, I don't think that was ever his intention. And like, he has poured his life into this. So any success for like, even. I can't imagine him all on the day where it gets like, sold to tubi. He's probably like, oh, my God, this is the best thing ever. So I'm just letting other people enjoy it and I'm trying to just like, I don't Want to say suppress my trauma. Cuz Jesus. What? Like, you know, and like, obviously trauma is also like a huge word to use. But at the same time, it was like a day that definitely opened my eyes to some stuff. And you know, I just.

[B]

Yeah, I think you're very. See, that's like, that's. That's very big to be. Like, I'm happy for them and like, you want people to enjoy it. Like, that's 100. You support it.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Like two things can be true. You know what I mean? Like, I had a bad day on a set in Hollywood, which happens all the time. And you know, I wanted to like, stand up for that and like speak my truth on that. And like, maybe some people didn't sit right with what I said, but I stand on what I said. And I don't think that Joey has a bad heart at all, you know, like, and just even him still sending me texts and like the flowers and stuff and like, whatever I should be better about, you know, maybe responding and stuff. I just like, I block it out. I don't know. I didn't like that.

[B]

I think that's like so.

Valid though, because it's like, it's because, you know what? Especially like someone who's like, hard to regulate my emotions, sometimes it's better for me to just like not respond at all because it's like. Because it couldn't. Like you said, it has nothing to do. It couldn't have nothing to do with that person. It could totally be all be me or in my head or whatever. But it's like in order for me not to be some type of way, I just need to not respond. So, yeah, I think that's like, valid and.

[A]

And I think sometimes I just avoid like emotional conversations, which is like, bad. I'm noticing that about myself. Like, if something like, makes me feel some type of way or I know it's gonna be like just a lot for. Because it's not Joey making me feel some type of way once again. It's like that day just like, was not one of my favorite days of.

[B]

My life, you know?

[A]

And like, I don't know. Yeah, I just like, I should like, reach out to him because I truly like seeing it all. I'm like, oh my God, I can't imagine like his day when it's sold to Tubi. He's probably so stoked and he's poured his life into this and he deserves it and like it being crowdfunded and like, you know what I mean? Like, getting it all the way to Tubi from crowdfunding is, like, so cool.

[B]

Does the crowd get the funding back? No, it's not like a Kickstarter. I don't really get, like, rewards back or anything.

[A]

I don't know. I really honestly do not know how that works, but I just think it's cool.

[B]

He said it's three episodes now, too. He said it was meant to be one and now it's three.

[A]

Yeah. And I'm just like, again. Yeah. Like, everyone. Like, I. Yeah, I. The fans that are happy, I'm happy.

[B]

And, like, do you like the movie poster?

[A]

I did. Honestly, I was like, you know what? Y' all could have done me dirty. And I was. I'm happy with that.

[B]

You're really cute. Add it in the trailer.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Did you watch it?

[A]

No. Yeah.

[B]

Honestly, protect your piece.

[A]

Yeah, I just, like. I just.

[B]

You look great.

[A]

Because I obviously. Yeah. Like, objectively singing, it's like, me in a prom dress and it's cute. And even in the moment, I remember being like, this is cute. But just, like, the memory with, like, that whole meat seller moment is not just my favorite.

[B]

And I wonder if it's like, edit that out.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

You know, like, for your. For your sake, maybe that's.

[A]

But the thing is, is I get it, you know, like, make the great show for the fans who love it. And, like, it's not that I can't watch it because it's bad. Like, you know what I mean?

[B]

Like, it's your own personal.

[A]

Yeah. Like, it was just, like, my own experience.

[B]

I've had so many experiences like that, too, where I'm just like, ah, you know what? Glad that everyone loved it, but also not for me to talk about anymore.

[A]

Exactly. Like, I'm just. I'm just. It was fierce.

[B]

Yeah. Fierce is a good word for it. Well, you act beautifully in it and, well, I guess it's good that you just say it so that way if you don't do, like, promotion for it or press people, like, just understand why.

[A]

And it does make me sad, too, because, like, sincerely, I think so much of.

How I felt was, like, seeing a video that someone made of, like, me not being, like, believed. I don't think I, like, sit well with that when I'm like, no, I'm telling the truth. And I think about all the young girls and, like, I never want to, like, set that message to young girls, too. Like, if you speak up about something that a man did to you that, like, people aren't going to believe you, like, I always want to fight back on that. And that's where a lot of my, like, maybe negative emotion towards this comes from, is that. And not even necessarily the show itself or even, like, you know, but, yeah, stream.

[B]

I didn't. I. Yeah, I didn't fully realize that. I was like, oh, it's kind of big news. It's kind of like that. Yeah.

[A]

Sincerely. I like, yeah. It's like, two things can be true, and that's like, my whole takeaway from all of it. You know what I mean? And, like, sincerely, when someone's life work succeeds, you have to give it to them. It's like, go off.

[B]

Yeah. That is his big passion. What's a magnum opus?

[A]

Magnum opus is a writer or, like, a creator's greatest work.

[B]

What's the stem from? What's the. The. I actually don't know, like, Mr. Holland's opus.

[A]

What is that?

[B]

The conductor was Richard.

[A]

Where it means great work.

[B]

Oh, you literally said that.

[A]

Greatest work.

[B]

Oh, that's literally. You just said that. That was smart. Ooh, let's love it.

[A]

Mind you, my magnum opus is like a bleach and tone. It is.

[B]

It is. That is your magnum opus. But I love that. That's. That is a good one. That's better than the toothbrush one, I think.

[A]

Yeah, I was gonna say toothbrush. Honestly, it's a toss up.

[B]

The bleach and tone is more like, vi.

[A]

Appreciate that one more because it makes me look less insane. And I don't have a red lip, which Lord knows I just, like, don't, you know, and just. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

[B]

You should do a red lip with heart next.

[A]

Honest, I wanted to actually, this holiday season and then just turn around time. I don't think so. Like, and I will say, like, I don't wear them a lot. And, like, I do appreciate that. I wear 10x chart every day, so I sell it in the most authentic way. Like, the red lip would kind of just me be like, hey, I wear this once a year on Christmas.

[B]

You look so good in it. And, like, the gag would be like, you not being able to. But then you could get, like, Holly to, like, model it because, yeah, so.

[A]

Good with a red lip.

[B]

I don't know if I look good. But Holly was like, always want to wear a red lip. And Huffner always told her, no.

[A]

I remember that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I feel like you should do a red lip. That would be so iconic.

[B]

Be like the fu. Red lip or something like that.

[A]

Oh, my God. Holly Madison, you better make A red.

[B]

Oh, Holly should, like, cash in on something on the holidays. She should be like, something Holly. I don't know. I love marketing and advertising. I saw. Not to bring up again. I feel like I bring them up all the time. Walting, because he's on a press tour right now.

[A]

Always bring up Walton Goggins.

[B]

I do love him so much. Like, literally made Moses be righteous gemstones with me. I want to do this with me. He is the Grinch right now in the Walmart ads. Have you seen it?

[A]

No.

[B]

Good in it too. Like, he is the perfect Grinch. Actually, like, almost above Jim Carrey. Equal to Jim Carrey, I guess I would say. Yeah. If you go on his page. Walton Goggins. Bonafide. I'm on there all the time.

[A]

I love Walton Goggins.

[B]

I love Walton Goggins. We almost got him on the podcast because he was doing press, and then it did not happen.

[A]

Wait, you're lying.

[B]

You see it?

[A]

Wait, you're lying.

[B]

So good, right? Is that him? Yeah.

[A]

And more of the sfx.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

I searched Walton Goggins and Trish's the.

[B]

Third video in front of his Speedo. Let me tell you about this picture. This is, like, the full ad. It is long, but we love everything.

He's in a new show again. It's Fallout or something on Prime. Not new, but it's like a new season.

[A]

Carrie thinks of, like, everyone being, like, people being the Grinch. Like, even that. Like, what's Jim Carrey's? I've been on a Jim Carrey deep dive. Like, really Rabbit hole these days. He has a lot of crazy lore. Is, like, not the right word, but.

[B]

Like, yeah, I don't know what to make of him. Like, I'm not sure if he's, like, trolling like, an Annie Kaufman in real life where he is just kind of, like, over Hollywood. Is he enlightened? Is he doing an experiment? Like, it's hard to know what to make of him.

[A]

I feel like every, like, six months, something resurfaces, and everyone's like, Jim Carrey was right. And I'm like, about what? Like what? I don't. I want to, like, know more.

[B]

He's also like the new Marilyn Monroe in the sense. Like, there's so many quotes, and they, like, all attribute them to Jim Carrey. I'm like, did Jim Carrey say that? Then you, like, look it up and it's literally like Harriet Tubman said it or something. But, like, everyone's, like, giving him the credit or some philosopher People do do.

[A]

That with Marilyn Monroe. That's really funny. I've never thought about that.

[B]

So many quotes and you're like, did Marilyn actually say that? They're just like.

[A]

It's like one fish, two fish, redfish, blue fish, dash, Marilyn Monroe. I'm wearing like, wait.

[B]

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Let's go.

[A]

Should we take a call?

[B]

Let's take a call. Let's do that. Yeah.

[A]

I need. I need just someone else's life. I need someone else's problem. Let's help 1-800-fix. We're here. 1,800-fix. A lovely woman, should I say?

[B]

I love that.

[A]

I love that we have lovely woman over here. Even all the Loveline girls who've been coming up to me in Vegas. Like, I've met so many girls.

[B]

Oh, yeah, my shows, too.

[A]

We love you guys.

[B]

A little club.

[A]

Yes. I love our club.

[B]

It really is.

[A]

It is.

[B]

Hi, Trish and Tana. I'm calling because I really just wanted some, like, show recommendations or movie recommendations from y'. All. Tana, I watched Gone Girl because of you. I literally am like, yalls biggest fan. I Listened to cancel. Not love lying. Just trash every single episode you've put out. I think I've listened to it. But anyway, I also just started I Love LA last night, and I literally love it. But, like, only five episodes are out, so I just need, like, more shows that the girls love because you all have good taste. So, anyway, love you all. Bye. You put me onto this. You told me about this in New York, and I do love, love la.

[A]

It's so cute.

[B]

Did you watch the latest episode?

[A]

Yes, and I accidentally spoiled it for Trevi and she's never gonna let me live it down. But it was a big.

[B]

Not like a big spoil, but a crazy one.

[A]

No, because I thought she'd watched it. She, like, kept, like, pushing me, and then finally I just said the ending and she hadn't seen it. But I love LA is really good. I mean, I love it. That was what I was gonna recommend to her because I've just. I just think it's really funny. I think it's really on the nose, like, the satire. And it's done well. And I love Rachel Sennett.

[B]

I love it.

[A]

Obsessed with her. She is just, like, so talented and just, like, funny.

[B]

The best and real. I just spent, like, a whole day with Jordan Firstman a couple days ago. Like, I love him too. I think he's, like, so funny and so good. This is a great, great show. I guess they've been friends for a while. He's like, yeah, I've been friends with her for, like, 10 years.

[A]

Yeah, that's so cute.

[B]

I had no idea she was an idol.

[A]

Oh, my God. I know, I know. She. I loved her in the Idol. Her character in the Idol was arguably the funniest.

[B]

Yeah, it was the best. She was just, like, the assistant. Like, so good. And yes, I love it.

[A]

It's funny. I wonder if that, like, inspired her to be like, I know that I can play this, like, assistant role so well.

[B]

She's, like, gonna be a social media. Was it Jeff who told Lila Gimney? She kind of reminded. He's like, oh, you are like, I love LA is like your life.

[A]

Did you see that gamble? Jeff Winnic has not seen an episode of I Love la.

[B]

I think when he was on my podcast, I think he said he saw it.

[A]

Oh, my God. That's actually really funny that he' watching that. I like that he's watching.

[B]

I haven't seen it yet. He's like, you haven't seen it? And I was like, no. He's like, I feel like you would Love it. I was like, okay.

[A]

Some of the scenes and I love LA are so eye opening to me too. Like when she's like going through the scandal and she's going, I need my vape, I need my vape. I need my vape. I was like, oh, my God, I hate myself.

[B]

I wonder if people like outside of LA love it. Cuz it's so niche to LA that I'm like, I wonder if they.

[A]

That is true. Cuz the. My reasoning for loving the show so much is because I think every single character is a real person that I know. Like, genuinely, like, I know know someone. Then Rachel's character is just like one of my best friends. And like, honestly, it's. It's eye opening how la, like, everyone in LA is like, you know, But I wonder if everyone. Well, because, yeah, because I guess the rest of the world is kind of like laughing at us. Duh. Always. Like, the rest of the world has been like, LA is not a real place. They live on Mars.

[B]

So I guess it was number three on Max and I think I bumped number four by that new show. Oh, my God. What is the show?

[A]

Heated Rival.

[B]

Maybe everyone yesterday.

[A]

I need to watch that.

[B]

Yes. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Mario's been wanting to watch Heated Rivalry.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

It's like that hot.

[B]

Everyone is, like, obsessed with that show that knocked it down and everyone's like, okay, so maybe that's our answer for this girl. It's called Heated Rivalries.

[A]

I also seen it though, so I don't know. We'll say, oh, well. Heated Rivalry.

[B]

Let's hear yours.

[A]

All's Fair with Kim Kardashian.

I will die on this hill. I don't care if I'm alone on this hill. I will die on it. I love it.

[B]

It got 3 million viewers. I mean, it's a lot of viewers.

[A]

But just, oh, my God. I think that anything Kim Kardashian does, let alone act, people are gonna have a lot to say about it. But I think it's so camp. Like, and just the outfits are so camp and the storylines are so. I love them because they're like divorce lawyers. They're like, helping out of these crazy situations that are also, like, so real life. Like, men are crazy and have crazy kinks and do crazy and, like, it's just like, I would love any show like this as well. Like, about female divorce lawyers helping females. Like, it's just like, it's so. It is so, like, for the girls and I just. I eat it up.

[B]

I haven't gotten past the first episode. The first, I was like, I don't know about this. I had to, like, relate to a show. I think it's so hard for me to, like, an Emily in Paris because there's, like, no one in that show that I can relate to. And that feels like me with all of sorts fair. Like, I love the idea of it, but I just, like, I love their show. It's like, literally 20 years old. What's called Drop Dead Diva. And it's like, about lawyers, but she's like a fat lawyer, so she, like. Yeah, she, like, defends, you know, companies who don't make plus size clothing and stuff. I was like, I love this show.

[A]

Wait, I love that.

[B]

Yeah, it's a good one. It's great. It was out a long time ago, but it was wonderful. I had six seasons. It was great.

[A]

I love a female lawyer, but people love.

[B]

All swear. Like, they do love.

[A]

I love Sarah Paulson. Like, she's really. Her role is. She's so good in it. She's so funny. She's so insane.

[B]

Insane. I saw her on the Kardashians and I was like, oh, I like her. And I like their outfits. Like, I want to like it. Maybe I need to watch more because even, like, registers. I didn't, like, past the first episode originally, but then I'm like, maybe I need to get more into it.

[A]

And Niecy Nash, like, I just love her.

[B]

Love her. Like, I wish I could have her.

[A]

So hilarious, so talented. Like, it's just. I don't know. I'm really into it, but what else is, like, actually a good show?

[B]

The number one on Max is Welcome to Derry and everyone I know loves it. Oscar loves it. Like, everyone loves it. No, I saw again, the first episode. You watched the first episode?

[A]

I mean, welcome to Dairy. Like, as in, like, milk and cheese and butter.

[B]

It's a. It's a horror. It's a horror movie. Like the Clown.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

The food might be here. Let me see.

[A]

Add that to my forkies list if you know. You know it's called it.

[B]

Let me buzz it in. So you know it.

[A]

The Clown. Yes. Not welcome to it Dairy like the butter, but welcome to it Dairy like the Clown is in a town. I see. I am ashamed. Yes. Yes. Welcome to the Not Loveline set where I am ashamed.

[B]

All right, questions. Let's answer some questions.

[A]

I'm ready. I'm so ready. I got a little Sodi in my system. Yay.

[B]

We love that. How are you feeling your tummy?

[A]

I. I'll probably feel it soon. I ate bad, you guys. It's just like, stop talking about it.

[B]

No, earlier you were saying you took something for your stomach.

[A]

Yeah, well. Oh, oh. I took a Zofran because I was nauseous. I took Mounjaro to try to curb cravings, but I just. Just ate so bad. So we're healing is not linear.

[B]

I'm not trying to be that person. But you really did it. I mean, I had a little snack.

[A]

You know what? Thank you, Trisha. You make me feel better.

[B]

Yeah, I feel like you, like, think you eat, like 20 donuts or something. Like, which I did have, like, a.

[A]

Few donuts today, but it does sound like, you know, I eat my most at night. Like, that's when I'm really like. Which is obviously the worst. You know what I found out too, is that if you eat at night, like, later than you're supposed to, quote, unquote, that your brain, instead of using what it uses to store memories, has to use that function to, like, digest and process the food.

[B]

How to use memory.

[A]

Yeah. So now whenever I'm dumb, I'm like, sorry, I eat at night. Like, I just. I don't know.

[B]

That is so funny.

[A]

It's like a whole thing. But I mean, growth is not linear. I'm gonna eventually be so healthy.

[B]

You are healthy. That's my manifestation. I don't know if you are, but that's my manifestation.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And me too. That's that. Okay. Happy one year anniversary to our show, by the way. I think it's been one year since we.

[A]

Oh, my.

[B]

Great year.

[A]

Yay.

[B]

One year.

[A]

Like, it's been over one year.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

It was when we were in New.

[B]

York, probably because we started in, like, November.

[A]

Yeah. You know what? That's actually really, like, symbolic that we were in New York while that was happening and we didn't know, but we.

[B]

Had our matching PJs on and just.

[A]

Yeah. Like, how far we've come. Like, we're on this trip, like, somewhere else, like, meeting up together and like, we went shopping afterwards and like, just like. I don't know, just who we were. And like, our closeness and our bond, like, even just has changed so much. And, like, we've gotten to do so much in this one year. And it's funny because it still feels like not Loveline is our baby in some ways. But even now we're, like, talking about maybe doing like, a live show or two and, like, thousand percent.

[B]

Yeah, it's cool.

[A]

Just the growth even. Just everywhere I go when people ask about our friendship or not Loveline or anything, or just the community and the girls, and it's, wow, I'm so grateful.

[B]

I agree. And when you texted me about, like, the clip you saw, and I was just like, I just, like, love talking about you when people, like, ask about you. Like, it just makes me, like, so happy that I'd even be, like, associated with you.

[A]

I feel the exact same way. Like, truly, to have just, like, someone who empowers you so much. And, like, even just seeing all the comments on, like, us taking New York, like, it was a lot of people being like, this is inspiring to see. Like, you girls have been through so much, and you came together at a time where you were both ready for this type of friendship. And you inspired me to look for this type of friendship and stuff. And I was just like, damn.

[B]

Like, yeah, that's what I like seeing too. Because, like, obviously everyone knows my. My friendship.

What trauma, I suppose aversion, like, never had a friend. And so people know I get, like, def and, like, walls up, and it's like, I have no friends. I want no friends. And so people like to see the. The evolution of a. Of a friendship.

I am so. It is, like my one drama where I'm so scared because I feel like once you're, like, my friend or best friend, and then it's like, do you.

[A]

Think something bad's gonna happen?

[B]

Diabolical happens right after?

[A]

And I, like, know that. I mean, like I told you from the moment that we started to shoot this show and hang out more and stuff, I was like, I just will always you and, like, show you that you deserve that, because you do. And it's like, I get so defensive almost, I think, like, in a way where when I'm around you and with you, I get so angry at all of the women who have wronged you because it's just, like, you are so caring. You go above and beyond to the entire room of people, every room you're in. Like, you are such a good friend. So it's so. Without even knowing it. And maybe you don't want to call yourself that.

[B]

You know, I'm, like, scared of you say that like, maybe I'm the problem. Maybe I'm not a good friend.

[A]

No, no. But, like, you. It's just who you are. Like, you take care of. You're such a good friend to Dev, such a good friend to Amari. It's just not the word you would use. You would use, like, I'm a good person, but, like, You. You are so. It's just crazy to me that people.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

We do talk about this a lot off camera. Okay.

[B]

Thank you. Oh my God, I'm gonna cry. Thank you. That was like literally the nicest thing ever.

[A]

No, we love you so much.

[B]

It's like so hard for me to like fully grasp, but I feel like we're in it. I feel like we're in a.

[A]

We're in a great place. Yeah.

[B]

We're in a ship of sorts.

[A]

And I'm very proud of you. You too. I think for like working through like. Cuz a lot of people who have been burned at the degrees. No pun, but like at the degree that you've been burned at by women and by friendship would just be like, I'm never.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Doing this again for the rest of my life. Even having a show with another woman. You were probably like, well, this will last a month. Like, you know what I mean? You were like. Just the fact that you put yourself out of your comfort zone to like, to do it, I think shows a lot to who you are too.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

So happy one year. Yeah.

[B]

Happy one year. I'm very happy and I'm very. That's so filled in. Our friendship.

[A]

Crazy. Me too.

It's so crazy because it like, God. I mean, we've done so much and it feels long at some points, but it also feels like just like that.

[B]

Yeah. We did a lot in a year. I mean like, literally had a baby, went to Vegas, New York. Like, you know, just doing so much. You bought three, five, six houses. Seven cars. G Wagon car.

[A]

Mind you.

That'S still a lot.

[B]

I feel like we've been. Yeah. Like, it's like every time I saw you're like closing on a house, I was like, oh my gosh, that's amazing.

[A]

Sending him houses in Vegas too. And he was like, stop.

[B]

We went head to head on a pinky wagon. That was. That's the highlight of the year.

[A]

No. All of our being pinned against you for that and just laughs and like. Oh my God. Like, like delirious hours.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Like. Cause a lot of the beginning of Loveline too. We were very stack happy. Like we would come.

[B]

I want to get back there. We know it's crazy.

[A]

We 100. Well like Broadway and just different. The baby like holidays. All different things. Maui, Vegas, you just everywhere 100 and like. But we were just spending delirious hours together. Like I think that that's something too. Like, because we. When we go to other sets, we're like very on you know, it's like, it's like, hi, I'm here and I'm on set and hello everyone. When you start spending like 8, 9 hours with someone and like run out of things to even like think or say, you. You let a wall down, you're showing people a different side of you. We're very like, sleepover over here.

[B]

Yeah. Which I do love. Yeah, you are. Like, I feel like one time like one of the podcasts we do. I feel like you were like, I'm going to say like not say yes to every podcast ever. And I feel like I've seen you on every podcast ever in the past. Like, like you like 900 podcasts. And you're like, I'm not saying yes, everyone.

[A]

Because you know what it is?

I was in New York, so I was trying to kind of do a.

[B]

Lot in New York that makes sense.

[A]

But also it's the goddamn fear. It is, it is. And it's like, I have a podcast, mind you, I have a podcast, but I don't know what it is in my brain that I'll just have a week where I'm like, I'm not doing enough and then I'll get a bunch of offers and I'll say yes to them all and then I don't sleep and I'm in a rat race and it's so.

[B]

It's, it's a lot and have to like sit and talk. Like, I do love being a guest on a podcast. It's so easy cuz you have to plan. But like, it's a lot. It's the way you were doing it, the rate you were doing it is your outfit. Like there was one outfit you wore on the, on the podcast. I was like, oh my God, she is like everywhere in this outfit.

[A]

It was wonder the person in New York. I really was doing my big one. But then it is funny because like, you'll leave some podcasts and this is only sometimes. Like I did so many where I left and I was very happy and like, they were great and stuff, but you'll be like, like, damn. Like, I don't know. Especially like, oh my God. When I'm like, you know what it is? It's like I've never been PR trained, but I've definitely like through life, like learned what to say and what not to say and how to say it. Like just some life PR training. But like the ones where you're kind of fighting like the dodging and the drama and you're like. And I'm like, oh, My God. Like, and you just never know how they're gonna go. I. Maybe I need my own damn podcast at some point.

[B]

No, I feel like. But I feel like you still will go on 5,000 other podcasts because that's how you were when you had canceled, too. You were, like, on everyone's podcast.

[A]

No. And I guess, I mean, I would say that, like, 80% of going on people's podcasts, I really enjoy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, just because I don't, like, even, like, I just went on. My friend Georgia Hazarati and Isabel Timmerman, they have a podcast in New York. I went on it, and I hadn't seen. I'd never met Isabelle in person. We were like, TikTok friends. And then I hadn't seen Georgia in a long time. And, like, had it not been, like, an hour podcast slot, I probably wouldn't have have seen them while I was in New York.

[B]

Like, yeah, it's a social thing, for sure.

[A]

Yeah, like, it's. A lot of times it is nice when people's intentions are just super pure and stuff, too, to just, like, catch up with people and like, whatever. But then there are some where I'm like.

Let me not say the wrong thing here about X, Y, and Z. And that's where it's like. And you know what it is, too, is a lot of people. And I know you don't do this because you're really nice about this with just Trish. And I always was like this with canceled, too. A lot of people actually will not give you edit control, which.

[B]

Wait, really? Yes.

[A]

I, like, even, like, now I'm after I did my 50 podcasts, I'll probably go on a little break again and then do them again. And I think I had a few just recently where, like, getting a thing or two cut was like, it just seemed like they don't ever do that. Do you know what I mean?

[B]

Like, a lot of like, what do you mean? So you'd be like, can I get this cut? They're like, no. Yeah.

[A]

Or like, not responding or like, having to really, like, go the lengths of, like, getting to the team member. And that's so weird. Okay, well, you have 24 hours. Hours to do it. And it's like, what if I was on a plane? Like, and it's like, that's right.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's crazy, because I never want to air anything of anyone that they don't feel comfortable airing. But, like, some people do not feel that way. It is fierce. I don't know. Like, there is a Lot of caveats that come to it, but a lot of, like, fun memories and laughs. And, like, seeing friends does, like, I. I enjoy some podcasts.

[B]

I like seeing you on all of it. It's really funny just to see you pop up everywhere. Like, you're literally on, like, one of those street things. Like, hey, what do you do for a living?

[A]

I'm like, oh, that I did all of those in one day. In, like, 35 degree weather, too. It's. You know what it is? Fear is just. It is a big motivator of mine because, like, the second that I'm like, if I'm not doing enough now, will I have it five years from now? Like, I just fill up my whole schedule.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Out of that. You know, and maybe that's not the answer. Maybe if I was more selective, then that would bring different things and it would. You know, I don't know what the answer to that is. And it's. It's just even like, like, Haley Bieber just went on Owen Thiel's podcast where they're like, in the bed together.

[B]

Love that.

[A]

And he asked me to do it, but I'm supposed to leave for Hawaii that day. I asked him to do it. Actually, let me clarify that. He agreed to me doing it.

I'm about to, like, move my flight and, like, change my plans. And, like, that's what always happens too, where it's just something where I'm like, that would be good. That would be fun. Well, pick it.

[B]

Well, look, I. I know you're, like, also friends with everyone you did it with, so I. But I would say, like, if you are trying to, like, reserve your social battery to pick and choose. And I would say Owen, like, is, like, top.

[A]

I know he's ever. He's so talented and funny.

[B]

Jake Shane level.

[A]

Like, yeah, maybe I should move my flight to Hawaii. Yeah.

[B]

Oh, my God, he's the best. See? But then.

[A]

And then now I'll be here for another three days, so I'll say, who else is? Can I do for three days?

[B]

No, just his. That's it. And then go or rest.

[A]

It's like a funny concept that I'm just walking into, like, dear media, and I'm like, whose podcast is free today?

[B]

Like, you're on Josh Packs next week. Good friends. I'm supposed to be.

Stop.

Why? I'm just. I'm for.

[A]

I'm a podcast world. You want me as a guest. You got 17 views. I'm there, baby. I'm right there in your seat, giving you the piping hot tea.

[B]

Oh, my God. That is crazy. Are you doing.

[A]

I do need to fill up my. My schedule, maybe with my own podcast at some point next year.

[B]

I just. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just save those views for you. But I love that you're charitable and you're like, let me give it to everyone else. It's so true.

[A]

Like, nobody paying me.

[B]

No. But can tell you it is a great thing. That is a great quality because you are great. And every time I needed a guest for, like, just rush, you'd be on it and it would get, like, a million views. And you are, like, really sweet that way. Like, because people know that when it's.

[A]

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[A]

Like going on a you or like, just a friend where I know they're not going to do me dirty. Their intentions are correct. And like. And sometimes the big ones or the ones that don't make notes end up being good ones, too, you know, like, just. I don't know. I. It's. It is like, I. A lot of my Schedule filling up comes from fear and just wanting to make sure I'm doing everything I can be doing while I have it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I think next year will be a little different, you know, just, I'll be working on some other stuff.

[B]

I'm excited. Yeah. What's 2026 look like for you? Can you say anything?

[A]

Ooh, book still. I know, but, like, shut the hell up.

[B]

No, I love it. Is it going to come out?

[A]

Yours is going to come out before mine. I know. Which is so funny.

[B]

Funny.

[A]

And I can't wait. I literally can't wait.

[B]

By the way, are you going to be on next year with it?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

It's just, like, perfect.

[A]

I want to do by end of next year. And it's, as you know, it's like, a huge process that also has, like, nothing to do with you people buying it and just, like, publishers. And so it's very official. Blow the whistle if you want to do it the right way. You have to really follow a program that has nothing to, like, do with you. Unless you want to self publish, obviously. So as soon as it is done and as soon as I can, that is, like, huge. I mean, I love the podcasting space and I love to podcast, but not Loveline does fill a big part of my cup. And I just want to make sure that whatever I do next is not just me doing canceled again.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I stand on that so hard. Obviously, like, I want to whatever I do next, like, incorporate Brooke. And also if she does something, I would love to be any part of it and stuff like that, but I just want to make sure that the basis of the show has different things, you know, that it's just different. So I'm ideating on that and trying to take my time on that because it's like, why would I just rush to put something else out when something else ended? I want to make sure it's, like, perfect.

[B]

And, well, your gift is talking. And I feel like you do get so many views on everyone's podcast. I'm always just like, this should be. This should be your podcast. It should be yours.

[A]

You know what I mean? So sweet. And I also appreciate your, like, passion and protectiveness. You're so good.

[B]

And I'm just. Just like, damn, you really are out here just doing literally, like, work for everybody.

[A]

No, for sure. I'm just. I guess I'm trying to keep my, like, face in the game. Like a muscle.

[B]

It's like, yeah, I gotta get my podcast muscle, like, warmed up.

[A]

Like, I would never want to like, yes, like, literally that and just, like, being like, no, I still. I still love to do this and, like, eventually want to do something like it. I just don't. I just don't know what yet. You know, even. Just, like, I care about comedy. I've been trying to spend more time with Ms. Chelsea Handler and, like, learn more about that.

[B]

What do you spend more time with? You spend time with it?

[A]

Yes. Like, I went to her show in Vegas. I'm seeing her tomorrow, actually, too. Like, I'm just. I'm trying to spend time with women who inspire me and figure out what my next lane is, I guess.

[B]

Oh, that is amazing. I didn't know that. Oh, man, I'm so happy for you. That's so cool. And you're so cute about it. That's so cool. I had no idea, because I'm really.

[A]

Just trying to, like, make sure that what I do next is very true to who I am now. And. Yeah. That it's not just, like, some bull for money. You know what I mean? Like, because that's the thing is, it's like podcast networks are, like, reaching out, out, and it's like, I don't just want a big check to sit down and talk about pop culture. I should. Then I would have never ended.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Canceled.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I'm gonna be in the same storm. And, like, you know, I just. I want to make sure it's like.

[B]

Yeah, you're doing really well. It just. It's overused. But protecting your piece, just really trying. Just keep in peace, keeping it good.

[A]

This new, like, era in this lane, because it's, like, when you change so much as a person, going back to, like, what you were once doing is obviously regressive. So it's kind of about figuring out, like, what is new Tana's niche or interest or lane or how do I want to come across. I also just want to help people significantly more than I ever think I did. I think I cared about, like, views and just stupid for so long that it's like, that is not the goal with whatever I do next. Like, if people watch, I'm grateful, but, like, I want to just. Yeah, yeah. Be different, you know?

[B]

And I feel like everybody will be here for it.

[A]

I love you.

[B]

I love it so much. I can't wait to see. And I can't wait to see more in 2026.

[A]

No, I know. And it's. It's so funny, too. Whenever I, like, go on, like, a straight podcast, I know, like, I know that, like, you seeing me on impulsive. You're like, girl, start your own. I know.

[B]

Oh, my God. Literally, me changing the title today on Just Trish. Cuz, like, I text Oscar. I'm like, we have to change the title. Cuz, like, we barely talked about it, but it was just like, tana needs to drop Logan. I'm like, can we just say, like, she's too good for Logan. Like, I was literally, like, trying to reword it because I'm. I. My heart sings a little bit. Like, you're so sweet. And you're very sweet to, like, let us, like, use you for title and thumbnails because it always does do well.

[A]

And we always.

[B]

Of course. I'm always just like, on your side. Whatever you do is no wrong. And so. But the impossible did go viral. And so I was like, okay, let's talk about it or whatever. But the title was crazy. Just me judging you, just being like, drop Logan was crazy.

[A]

But also, like, I was like, take it.

[B]

We changed it. I was like, please change it. I'm seeing Dana today. Like.

He gets it. He's like, I get it.

[A]

You can title anything, anything you want.

[B]

Okay. I know your heart.

[A]

I know your love for me. Like, get your bag. Like, do.

[B]

But continue telling Jeff, like, get me off the thumbnail.

[A]

No, literally. Literally. And I. No, but that was different. I did not need to be in that thumbnail. Like, that. You're talking about me, therefore, like, that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, and I. I also don't live for, like, yes people, like, you know, like, as much as we do. Yes man each other and hype each other up. Like, I think it's also important to, like, vocalize things how you genuinely see them. It's even funny. I was in the car with Mike, and he was like, trisha, Paytas hates me. And I was like, be less straight. Like, we all. We all, like, you know what I mean?

[B]

Like, that's crazy. I joked him.

Told you that. And you're like, well, yes, I did. I did. Impulsive. And it was the most disastrous podcast I've ever been on.

[A]

It was.

[B]

It was awful.

[A]

What happened?

[B]

Just like, you know, I think I can have chemistry with almost anybody. And that show was like, the opposite of chemistry. That was like. That was like Flop Tropica. That was like. I mean, one. Logan couldn't have cared less that I was there. Mike had no idea what he was talking about, which was so crazy because I was talking about being like, I was just institutionalized, like, like, months prior. Like, a couple months prior. And he had no Idea what I was talking about. Like, he was like. He was very, like, didn't know the terminology. And then they just talked amongst themselves. Like, I wasn't even there. It was very odd. It was very weird. I forget we talked about this else that we name, but we were like, why do we not like this person?

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

You know, you have to, like, think.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And you don't get any hate or anything because they do have, like, a lot of men. So you don't get, like, a hate.

[A]

No, no. Honestly.

[B]

Oh, my God. Mine got, like, the worst. And this was 2019. It was so long ago to be a totally different thing. But I got, like, so much hate from whoever watches them. Someone was, oh, Bobby Altoff.

[A]

She's a mom.

[B]

She's a mom. And she was getting hate for, like, not showing her kids. But then when she would show her kids, she would get hate like, I'm just like. And then she, like, showed her boyfriend and she was getting hate for that. Then she, like, crying because she has. All the comments are about, like, how I just. On my guest. And she was like, truly sincere. She's like, I hate doing this because I just get more comments like this. But she was, like, crying.

[A]

Wait, that's so sad.

[B]

Yeah, she's like. She was, you know, like, it's annoying if I post a picture of me and my boyfriend. I was like, she's a she. She got her train ran on her and she's run through. And also. And she was, like, really, really upset.

[A]

And it is, like, so misogynistic, too.

[B]

Like, so misogynistic. So awful. And it's like this audience that. It's like, definitely not her fault, but it's like this certain type of audience will, like, hate on a woman for that, right? Like, it's like, maybe people are watching her interviews, views, you know, for interviewing, like, hip hop stars and stuff like that.

[A]

So it's like, it's like Drake fans.

[B]

Saying, yeah, yeah, so you're getting these, like, men, I would assume. And they would just, you know, she.

[A]

Does get like, men are so like, what if she's just interviewing these people and has a boyfriend? Have you all ever thought of that? Like, why. Why does she have every. Yes. And to commit to that character, to then evoke a completely different side of the person you're interviewing than they've ever shown on any other interview ever is such a talent. Like, the side that she's getting Drake to show the side of just anyone. I just saw her with Trevor Wallace. They were like, rock climbing or something.

[B]

That's a good duo. Yeah.

[A]

And it's like. It's just like, she's so talented.

[B]

I think it's just, like, a certain audience, and I'm so glad that I'm so far away from. So, like, any time there is, like, an interview for, like, with a straight.

[A]

Person, I don't want to be. Yeah.

[B]

Like, Jeff's a little different because we have, like, history. But I think, like, that's like, toeing the line even, because, like, when I go on his, I just know notice the comments on his are just so much more harsh on me than, like, when he's on mine. And so I was just like, maybe this is not the world I want to cross. Like, I'm. I. I always say this with Jeff. Like, come on, just. Trish, I don't think I can do a pod swap anymore because the Jeff FM people don't love me as much.

[A]

Which is, like, a fine line. I agree. Like, the straights have much different commentary on women than, like, in our safe space of girlies. You know what I mean? Like, I would. I feel like the straight world is a little more on, like, looks and like, stuff like that too, whereas the girl world can be a little more, like, drama and stuff like that. But it's just obviously we're more comfortable on our side with, like, the girls and the gays. And I do agree with that. I understand that.

[B]

Yeah. So, like, Bobby also was saying is, like, you know, people say I'm a bad mom. She. I'm a really good mom. I just don't show it. But it's like, when she doesn't show her kids, people like, where's the kids at?

[A]

It's like, know that, like, because I don't really watch a lot of, like, kids, like, people with their kids content other than yours. So I obviously just, like, see the positive stuff about, like, you and Malibu and Elvis and, like, all that. I didn't know. Know Brooke was, like, telling me about this the other day. She's just like, yeah, a lot of people get, like, really, mom shamed. Like, oh, like, you don't show your kids and it's bad. You show your kids and it's bad. You're this and you're that. And, like, I really was like, damn. I didn't know that. That was like, a whole other side of the Internet.

[B]

Oh, yeah, Holly. I know. I talked about a lot, too. It's like, where people are like, where are your kids? You're never with your kids. And it's like meanwhile and her close friends like just with her kids like every single day. Like I always, when she's in this area, I always see her with like, like she's always like, so yeah, you're like, yeah, if you do. And then if you show your kids you're exploiting them, it's like you're only. You only like, oh. Like you only show them when you're needing content or you're only with them. Like it's just the whole thing, which is crazy.

[A]

Like, just because Holly's posting her outfit, which is one five minute sector of an entire 24 hour day, that means she didn't see her kids.

[B]

That's everybody. That's like Megan Fox. Everyone gets that. And then Bobby was saying too, she's like, you know, I met my husband when I was 21, he was 30. So that's like a huge. And she was saying the age gap of it all was just like a lot for her.

Hi guys. This isn't necessarily dating, but more family relationships. And a few days ago my dad had a stroke and he's my best friend in the world and it's been really, really hard to imagine life without him or just a different version of him. And I was curious, curious if you guys have ever had an experience like this seeing someone you really love.

See something really horrible happen to them and how you keep going on about your life. So thank you so much. Love you guys.

[A]

Oh, I love her.

[B]

That's a tough one. That's like. So these kind of questions are always, they're hard. Like even hearing her voice and hearing what she's like going through, like really tough. I know I don't have much experience and I'm like, I don't know the. I never know the right like words to say or the comfort have you been through?

[A]

Well, the thing I think here is like there are no right words to say. Like we go through things in life sometimes that are just detrimental. And that's the God honest truth. And it's just about trying to be as okay as you can be. I think it's important to just never stop talking about this person and your memories with this person. Because that's the best way to keep any version of someone alive is to just like be so grateful for all of the time that you had with them and obviously for the people that we love like unconditionally. We are there for them through everything. And I know that you are. I can just tell by who you are in this call that you're going to step up to the plate to be there for him. And that's what makes you an amazing daughter and you an amazing person. And just honestly, like, my best advice is to just give yourself so much grace. Like, it's. I feel like people, when going through grief, especially you start to beat yourself up and like, I can't get out of bed or I feel this way or crying all the time or I'm not myself or I'm. You're not supposed to be yourself. You're not supposed to feel okay. You're not. Like, just make sure to give yourself grace. And however you need to process this, like, do that, you know, and there's always a new normal. Right? Like, it's. I don't necessarily live for people always being like, everything's gonna be fine because it's like not what you want to hear when nothing feels like it's fine. But there will eventually be a new normal that you are able to go on with. And I believe in you to get there. But just give yourself grace on that process of getting there and, you know. Yeah.

[B]

And hopefully, like.

[A]

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[B]

I have some sort of support and I feel like if you don't, there's probably like support groups or they're definitely support groups for people who are going through the exact same thing.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Because I couldn't even imagine her, like you said, like, knowing something how things are going to change. Like, I'm really bad with change and then like, like tragic change is like, like, I don't, I don't know, like beast full support and people around you and just hopefully. Yeah, like, I guess just. Yeah, time always just heals a little, I would assume. I haven't been through something like this. I'm not really like, I think that.

[A]

You'Re very smart to say support group, too. And just like, because I've always felt this way at my lowest about anything or anyone. When you talk to someone else or even even, like, see a video of someone else, truly, at least for me, going through something else that you go through, like, just serving as a constant reminder that you are not alone. You know, even though, like, a support group might feel corny or like watching videos might just feel like it's not going to help, I think that having that in the back of your mind that, like, you are not alone and there's someone out there who relates to you or if you're lucky, is going to go through this with you and stuff like that, like, definitely lean on and seek support. I think that seeking support is really good advice because some people I know there were lots of points in my life where I didn't naturally have a lot of support. And so there are times in my life where I did seek it out and times where I didn't, and the times where I did seek out support, even though that's hard and you feel alone and embarrassed and all those things, like, when you find it, it's so worth it. Like, just don't fight to not go through something alone. I think it's important.

[B]

I think that was like, the major step for my healing. And everything is just like, asking for help, asking for support, asking for people to see me. Like, you kind of just need it. And I'm very, like, strong, independent, isolation. I don't want to see anyone. I don't need anyone. But, like, everyone needs somebody.

[A]

Yes. And like, just there are so many people out there who can give you advice or insight into a similar situation that you may not think of immediately. You know what I mean? Your brain is all over the place. And sometimes, like, you know, just something that someone else says can end up being something that gets you through what you're going through. But again, just give yourself what grace. Like, seriously, just take it minute by minute. And you don't have to be anything, you know, you don't have to be strong. You don't have to be presentable. You don't have to be intelligent about this. You don't have to. You're not, you know, you're going through something. Give yourself grace for however you feel.

[B]

And we love you, and we love you so much. Get through it. And thanks for calling and give us an update if you feel to call us back. And good vibes for you tonight. I hope everything is good vibes.

[A]

Yes. 100 everything. We're manifesting our peace era.

[B]

You're gonna have a peaceful sleep, a peaceful week.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

So are you holiday.

[A]

What am I manifesting for you? I'm manifesting it'll be out by now, so I'm gonna call it. It's going to be your biggest one yet. And I'm manifesting a full night's sleep for you even though it's 9pm now and that's way past your bedtime.

[B]

I get one. Nine to six is great.

[A]

I'm manifesting the strongest voice ever for these Trishma shows.

[B]

Oh, my God. Thank you.

[A]

And yeah. Merry Christmas season. Holiday season or Merry Christmas. I don't know when this is coming out, but we love you guys.

[B]

Holiday season is here. It's amongst us and we love it. And we love you guys. This is the best gift.

[A]

Happy one year to not Loveline.

[B]

Happy one year. Thank you guys for being here. We're gonna celebrate with a tour.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Not even close. Yeah, we are. Yeah, we'll celebrate all day. Here's the announcement. Everyone's like, what in the city?

[A]

Mario know.

[B]

Thanks, guys.