OUR THOUGHTS ON THE ALABAMA BARKER & BHAD BHABIE FEUD

Summary

Summary of "Not Loveline" Podcast Episode: "OUR THOUGHTS ON THE ALABAMA BARKER & BHAD BHABIE FEUD"

Released April 15, 2025, "Not Loveline" is a dynamic weekly call-in advice show hosted by Tana Mongeau and Trish Paytas. In this episode, the hosts delve into the recent feud between Alabama Barker and Bhad Bhabie, blending celebrity drama with personal anecdotes, relationship advice, and supportive interactions with callers.

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1. Introduction to the Feud

The episode kicks off with a caller seeking advice directed at Alabama Barker. Trish Paytas shares her positive experience, emphasizing Alabama’s sweetness based on her interactions within the glam community.

• Trish Paytas [00:01]:

  "Everyone I know, like, all my glam people, I've worked with her. Like, she's really, really sweet. She's sweet."

In contrast, Tana Mongeau presents a divergent perspective, hinting at underlying tensions.

• Tana Mongeau [00:07]:

  "I have such a different experience with Alabama and all the tea. Yeah. We don't like, there's a hole."

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2. Dissecting the Feud: Alabama Barker vs. Bhad Bhabie

Tana and Trish engage in a detailed discussion about the roots and dynamics of the feud between Alabama Barker and Bhad Bhabie, exploring personal experiences and public perceptions.

• Trish Paytas [10:25]:

  "I should preface by saying because we talked about Bhad Bhabie and Alabama Barker on our just on the gesture House and, like, people got Max. I didn't know the full lore."

• Tana Mongeau [15:38]:

  "I can relate to that. Do you think like teenage you would have been like similar. Like 17 year old Tana not as like awful to people."

The hosts analyze the motivations behind the feud, discussing factors like clout, personal struggles, and the impact of fame on young artists.

• Trish Paytas [13:38]:

  "I always blame the guy in this situation. Like, I hate that it's like, the two girls going at each other, because it's like, at the end of the day, it really is Lavon's, like, issue."

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3. Personal Growth and Relationship Advice

The conversation transitions to more personal topics, including Trish's pregnancy and the challenges of long-distance relationships. A heartfelt segment unfolds as a caller shares her struggle with leaving a toxic ex, prompting Tana and Trish to offer robust support and encouragement.

• Tana Mongeau [25:01]:

  "You are so worthy of something that is not him. And that you, no matter how much you believe right now, I'm telling you, please believe me, that you are so worthy of love."

• Trish Paytas [27:07]:

  "So proud of you. To, like, end. I've never been able to end anything."

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4. Sharing Petty Moments and Lessons Learned

Tana and Trish reflect on their pettiness in past relationships, sharing humorous and relatable stories that highlight their growth over time.

• Tana Mongeau [44:34]:

  "I've done all the petty things. Like just like, put a man's toothbrush in the toilet and put it right back."

• Trish Paytas [45:14]:

  "That's a cute petty, but cute."

These anecdotes serve as both entertainment and a testament to their evolving approaches to conflict.

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5. Creative Endeavors and Future Plans

The hosts brainstorm creative projects, discussing potential merchandise like stickers, perfumes, and even collaborative boutiques. Their enthusiasm for expanding their brand showcases their entrepreneurial spirit.

• Tana Mongeau [32:00]:

  "We should make stickers and give them to people in our lives to, like, go put around."

• Trish Paytas [59:09]:

  "I would love a perfume. Did you have your picture on the box? I loved my little."

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6. Admiration and Mutual Support

Throughout the episode, Tana and Trish express deep admiration for each other, acknowledging their strengths and the positive impact they have on one another’s lives.

• Trish Paytas [62:13]:

  "My TikTok is just your old clips from when you were so young... I'm proud of you."

• Tana Mongeau [62:25]:

  "I think we were like. Someone asked me in an interview the other day... we truly are such a dynamic duo."

This mutual support reinforces the strong bond between the hosts, adding a personal touch to the episode.

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7. Empowering Takeaways for Listeners

The episode wraps up with empowering messages aimed at listeners facing similar relationship struggles. Tana and Trish encourage self-love, resilience, and the importance of moving forward from toxic relationships.

• Tana Mongeau [61:43]:

  "Congratulating all of the girlies out there on leaving men. That is the biggest takeaway of today's episode."

• Trish Paytas [61:54]:

  "Yes."

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Trish Paytas [00:01]:

  "Everyone I know, like, all my glam people, I've worked with her. Like, she's really, really sweet. She's sweet."

• Tana Mongeau [27:07]:

  "You are so worthy of something that is not him. And that you, no matter how much you believe right now, I'm telling you, please believe me, that you are so worthy of love."

• Trish Paytas [44:34]:

  "I've done all the petty things. Like just like, put a man's toothbrush in the toilet and put it right back."

• Tana Mongeau [61:43]:

  "Congratulating all of the girlies out there on leaving men. That is the biggest takeaway of today's episode."

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Conclusion

This episode of "Not Loveline" masterfully intertwines celebrity gossip with genuine advice and personal stories, creating a rich and engaging narrative. Tana Mongeau and Trish Paytas navigate the complexities of the Alabama Barker and Bhad Bhabie feud while offering heartfelt support to listeners facing their own relationship challenges. Their candid discussions, coupled with humorous and relatable anecdotes, make for a compelling and insightful episode that resonates with both fans and newcomers alike.

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Transcript

[Caller]

What kind of advice would you give.

[Trisha Paytas]

To Alabama Barker right now? Everyone I know, like, all my glam people, I've worked with her. Like, she's really, really sweet. She's sweet.

[Tana Mongeau]

I have such a different experience with Alabama and all the tea. Yeah. We don't like, there's a hole.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh.

[Tana Mongeau]

If a guy would cheat on me with a girl, like, I would go. And the girl. And I thought the guy would care.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's a cute. Petty, but cute.

[Tana Mongeau]

Petty but like, I thought I was doing something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Hello. Not Loveline is just fiery. It's.

[Tana Mongeau]

We are firing today. We've got our cowboy hats on. This is giving me a bit of a sensory nightmare.

[Trisha Paytas]

What does that mean? Like, you're like freaking out inside. I'd like, maybe you should take it off if it's gonna, like, cause you harm.

[Tana Mongeau]

Well, did Chaperone wear this cowboy hat?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Well, it's not the exact one, but it's a replica. Yeah. She wore for her Pink Pony Club video.

[Tana Mongeau]

And it's this noise. The telesan.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, I don't even hear it.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's. I gave it to the viewer. They definitely didn't want to. It's asmr.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's a lot. But I. I'm kind of into it. I'm into a cowboy hat today.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. This is your second one.

[Tana Mongeau]

Trisha has the most insane, intricate cowboy hats all over. Like down here. I love so many. I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, there's always cosplays. This was when Cheeky's on my podcast. That was when Chapel Run was supposed to be on our podcast. And then we had the pink one. That was a. A gift from a fan at the Mean Greets.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Which is so a cowboy app. Makes me feel so like 2000s and like y 2000s baddies always had them on.

[Trisha Paytas]

Cowboy hat.

[Tana Mongeau]

Pamela and her big hats.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, well, that was so cute. Yeah. And I had a pink cowboy hat for shallow. I do think I started the Trend again in 2017.

[Tana Mongeau]

I wore it and that whole outfit. Cuz you got on blue and like the colorway was everything. That's one of my favorite. It's just like a Y2K body colorways. Yeah, I'm not really into my outfit over here. Trisha's serving for the both of us.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, definitely not me either. I'm. I'm giving.

[Tana Mongeau]

I don't know. No, you're giving. You're just giving. Like end the sentence. I just feel very barefoot and pregnant and not Trisha Paytas camp pregnant. Like, like very trailer park pregnant.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, you're so cute. It's like where I'm giving. Yeah, barefoot pregnant's a way to go. For sure.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's true. I do love being barefoot. And Trisha is dead convinced that I would love being pregnant and you're kind of selling me on it. Like I'm not going to lie.

[Trisha Paytas]

Dead selling you? I just. Yeah, I think because you always say, oh, I'm always like surprised at stuff that I didn't think I would like that I end up liking.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

And that's kind of how I feel with like I was just pregnant now, so I just love being pregnant. I'm like so sad this my last pregnancy because it's like so fun and like I was telling you, it could be like in your lazy girl era and it's like so. And people really do like that last caller on our patreon was like, you know, I can't believe people are doing this and you're pregnant. Like everything I'm doing like touring, she's touring and she's pregnant. It's always like, it's like oh, like an extra level of like. That's so impressive. Yes, it's, it's not really. You know what I mean?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes it is. I, I know for a fact even if it was the easiest thing in the world, I would just stop doing everything. Like I'd be so, I don't know, like. Have you felt the baby move at all while you've been like on stage and stuff too?

[Trisha Paytas]

It's funny cuz like when you're active, the baby sleeps cuz it's like rocking it so the baby's like sleeping. But when you're sleeping is when the baby moves cuz then it's like what are we doing?

[Tana Mongeau]

See that? What the. No. Hell no. Go to bed. I'm in, I'm in bed. But no.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's so cute to feel like a little baby just being like.

[Tana Mongeau]

Does it feel like it's in your. Okay. You know when you like eat a meal and it's like the meal you feel it kind of bubbling in your stomach.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

But then you know when you have like a period cramp, how that's like different section?

[Trisha Paytas]

It's not that at all.

[Tana Mongeau]

Where do you feel the baby?

[Trisha Paytas]

Wherever the baby is. This one's lower but sometimes it's like been higher and you just kind of feel. It's almost like a little humpback whale. You just kind of feel the motion and then you see it kind of pop up and you're just like yeah, it's really cool. It's really. It's cool. It sounds scary, but it's actually, like, the best feeling in the whole world. And I'm so sad. This is my last pregnancy because I've been so.

[Tana Mongeau]

You never know. You. You might be octomom.

[Trisha Paytas]

I am tying. I'm getting the tubes out after this.

[Tana Mongeau]

I just feel like you're so lucky that you'd, like, tie your tubes and then something would still happen.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's lucky if my tubes are tied. That's the opposite of luck. It's like, what. I'm getting them out, so that way there's not chance. Because if your tubes are tied, you could get pregnant. But if you just get them out completely, there's just, like, no chance.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, but, like, you're magic. Like, you are Houdini. Like, I could just see it somehow still happening. Could.

[Trisha Paytas]

You never know.

[Tana Mongeau]

You don't have any pets?

[Trisha Paytas]

No. Do you?

[Tana Mongeau]

No. You. I mean, Ashley has a dog.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right, Right, right. Yeah. Pets are actually harder for me, I think, to take care of than a human.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. What are you gonna do when, like, your kids hit that age that they want, like, a golden retriever?

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't think it's a worry about that. They're kind of scared of dogs, and I was always scared of dogs as a kid, so I think. Yeah. And, no, it's not gonna happen, because it just. I know.

[Tana Mongeau]

What if they wanted, like. What if Malibu was, like, begging? Like, begging down for, like, a lizard?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, a lizard. I could do a lizard.

[Tana Mongeau]

If it stays in, like, a hamster.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sure. If it's, like, in a little cage in the room. Okay.

[Tana Mongeau]

But, like, anything else. No.

[Trisha Paytas]

A dog, like, is just so much work. Like, I had a dog for literally one day, and I was like, I need to. I can't do this. Like, it's. So you had a dog before, right? And it's like. It's so hard to take care of.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, it is. It's very, very hard. You have to just, like. Like, be home, be there, Be all this.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I don't know how people have dogs in, like, work and stuff. I know people love them, and I. They're, like, connected. Yeah. If you get, like, a connection to them. I just haven't gotten there yet. I don't think there's a dog in our future. I'm also just kind of. I'm a little scared of dogs. Not that I don't like them. I'm just a little scared of them. Like, when they jump, I'm like, oh, Like, I just get a little, like, startled, even. Jeff's his new one. I was. He's very chill.

[Tana Mongeau]

He brought it here.

[Trisha Paytas]

He brought it here.

[Tana Mongeau]

Which is when I saw that. I was like, oh, I know. Trisha's having a day.

[Trisha Paytas]

When he's like, hold it. And I'm like, I don't know what to do.

[Tana Mongeau]

He's trying to get your clout for the dog, you know, like, for sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

I like the dog cloud, because dogs are everything. Even for the thumbnail. Like, do you want to put the dog in the thumbnail?

[Tana Mongeau]

Because he was just, like, holding it.

[Trisha Paytas]

So he's just. And he had a sunglasses on. Do you want to take your sunglasses off, too? Because his poor eye. It was so bad. I haven't seen it because I haven't seen him right after surgery, and it was. It was really, really bad.

[Tana Mongeau]

After surgery, it's always, like, so scary. And then he always heals up fine, though. I will say.

[Trisha Paytas]

But no, I felt so bad. I was just so shocked. I was still like, I know.

[Tana Mongeau]

And just like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

It.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, it's. You know how I feel. I'm just like, how the. Is everyone not talking about this ever?

[Trisha Paytas]

I kept saying, oh, my God, your eyes. So horrible. And I think he, like, thought of it as, like, an insult. But I was saying, I want people to know the severity of it, because in person, it's, like, jarring. It's like a little sc. And I was like, I know he just had the surgery, but I was like, I think people forget the severity of this, how your eye literally was, like, having surgery, like, in behind it, like, and it looks just.

[Tana Mongeau]

He sent me videos of the actual surgery happening and, like, how they. They move his eye fully out of the socket. And he sent me a photo before where, like, there's no eye in his socket. Like, it's just red. And, like, even after his surgery, one, not his last one, but, like, two before that, I went with him, and it was in Utah, and I was, like, just chilling at the house after, like, literally waiting for him to come back from surgery. And he came back, and it's just bright red blood. Just crying, bright red blood. And it's like, oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, the trauma.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, the trauma. Bright red blood coming. When I was a kid, I used to get nosebleeds really, really bad that it would come out of my eyes and Crazy town. That was crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then why did you feel you would just be, like, seeing the blood coming?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Like, you see your eyes fill with red, and then like, you're crying bright red blood.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's just like, I can't imagine. Well, I can't imagine. And it's like, that's insane.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I just. I know. I know. Whenever everyone's like, get over it or whatever, I'll never get over this until my eye is fully back to where it will be. Well, never be. And he's handling it while he's being. He's in a good mindset these days.

[Tana Mongeau]

But, God, I know he is. I'm happy for him that. Because, I mean, at some point, too, which is sad. It just becomes your new normal. Like, after your 12th surgery, you're like, all right, here I go again. You know? And it's like, I can't.

[Trisha Paytas]

I can't even imagine. I always get sad, actually, when I see him. I'm always like, just want to, like, cry. I'm always like, this is like, the saddest thing.

[Tana Mongeau]

Me too. I have the most empathy in the world for Jeff, and he's able to make so many, like, jokes. I love that, like, he inspires me in so many ways because I would be sad and evil.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. He deals with the good. I know. His jokes are so dark. I'm always, always uncomfortable when I'm around Jeff, but. But the initial five minutes, I feel sad for him. I'm like, oh. Then we start talking. I'm like, oh, okay, I need to go. At the end of the episode, I literally was like, I am. I don't condone any of this. This is not me in this podcast.

[Tana Mongeau]

It is. Jump FM is. They're. It's a very offensive, like, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Tana Mongeau]

I think it's almost better when you have him on just Trish for you because you're hot. You are not like that offensive. You don't make offensive jokes.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I hate them. I hate offensive jokes. Even, like, back in my trolling days, I don't know if, like, people, I guess, took me as offensive. I don't know if I ever made, like, offensive jokes. You know what I mean? I think maybe what I'm saying offended people more than, like, the joke of it all, you know? Oh, we get new shoes.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm putting the shoes back on the coach. These are white fox. I'm. Oh, my God, they need to pay me even more. White box, please. All day to day, all my outfits have been white fox, but honestly, this one is not.

[Trisha Paytas]

I say that about my meet and greets. Everyone always wears pink fashion Nova sequin dresses. I'm like, fashion Nova needs To raise my paycheck because everyone's buying these dresses.

[Tana Mongeau]

It'd be so fun if you did, like, a little collection.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would love.

[Tana Mongeau]

I would buy it all.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know how that works.

[Tana Mongeau]

I don't know either, honestly. But, like, how fun? Like, Trisha, Paytas X, Fashion Nova. They're missing out.

[Trisha Paytas]

They really are, honestly. Get on that.

[Tana Mongeau]

I would buy it all.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do love Fashion Nova. My whole wardrobe.

[Tana Mongeau]

Is that okay? I'm, like, really malfunctioning.

[Trisha Paytas]

Are you okay? You look so cute, though. Like, you now you look like a cowboy. For real. You look like a cow, girl. All right, should we answer?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes. I'm sorry. I'm like, okay, I'm good now.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, you look great. You look amazing. You look stunning. Call us here if you have your questions. Follow us on Patreon. Become a member today. Patreon.com notloveline, where we post bonus episodes every Friday.

[Tana Mongeau]

We just had the craziest Patreon ever.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yep, I showed you my butthole.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, I actually did see Trisha's butthole. We, like, glazed over that. Like, it was completely normal.

[Trisha Paytas]

It did. It really does. I don't know when you have the phones just, like, your stock photos, you're like, you know what? Let me go back to 2020.

[Tana Mongeau]

And it was a good photo. Like, it was a hot photo. Butthole and all. It was.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. You're like. Yeah. Anyway, she was concerned.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. There was a. We really unpacked that over there. And today we have some lore that we're about to.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Over there. So, yeah, call us today, Patreon. Today. We love you guys. Let's get into our 57 questions we're gonna answer today.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes, we're gonna take a lot of callers today because last week we were yapping. So last week was an hour ago for us.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, we love it. Okay. Hey, Trisha. Hey, Tana.

[Caller]

So I was just wondering, what kind.

[Trisha Paytas]

Of advice would you give to Alabama Barker right now? Like, if she was in front of you, what would you tell her? If she was your daughter, what would.

[Caller]

You tell her to do?

[Trisha Paytas]

How would you tell her to approach her situation with Danielle? Like, I just tell me, like, what she should do.

[Caller]

Anyways.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Love you guys. Bye. I love him.

[Tana Mongeau]

Love him. Are you kidding me? That energy. We love you, Trisha. I actually am dying. Like, I would pay, like, 9.99, actually to hear your take on this, Patreon.

[Trisha Paytas]

I should preface by saying because we talked about Bhad Bhabie and Alabama Barker on our just on the gesture House and, like, people got Max. I didn't know the full lore. So I, like, I get. I, like, know the surface level of what's happening.

[Tana Mongeau]

I know every single facet.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you? Oh, you're deep into it, so feel free.

[Tana Mongeau]

I can. I can.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Tana Mongeau]

I can. You know, you can correct me if.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm, like, wrong or you're the wrong way, because I, I. I look at it as two very separate things, right? Like, Bad Baby and the way Alabama Barker grew up are, like, totally two different things. Right? So I look at it as very much like. I guess it's more surprising that, like. Okay. Because I don't know what started where. So, like, what came first. The chicken and the egg. I don't know. This is where I get a little, like, mixed up. Because my initial thought is, like, you know, if Alabama. What I'm. What I'm gathering. And please correct me if I'm wrong. Bad Baby has a baby as a baby with. Okay. Baby Daddy is. Okay. Lavon. Lavon. Okay. Now, Alabama was talking to Lavon but not hooking up.

[Tana Mongeau]

We don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

We.

[Tana Mongeau]

I think she was hooking up.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Tana Mongeau]

From what I gathered with. From all the things.

[Trisha Paytas]

While he's with Bhad Baby.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

And Bhad Baby was going through cancer, postpartum, all this stuff like that.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes. And I think that Bhad Bhabie also thought they were friends, so it's kind of like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

I think a lot of it comes down to, like, why, like, hey, so why. Yeah, you know, like, why someone else's man? Why Bad babies, man.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think a lot of girls love taking someone else to me because it makes them feel, like, more desirable, like, more hotter. Like, oh, he got with me. I would say with Alabama, I'm like, like, if it was my daughter, right? And she, like, has access to, like, she can make her own music because her dad's a musician, and she can. She has all these things. Her brother's super cool on Tick Tock. Her dad's super cool. Her mom is. Her stepmom's a Kardashian. Like, you. It all, like, you have it all. Like, you could, like, you like to be messy by going with someone else's man. It's just like.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I think just being something that she's not, like, yeah. Like, Bhad Bhabie is. She's very authentic to who she is and always has been. And this is really her life. And I think a lot of people's takeaway kind of is like, you were born and raised in Hidden Hills in Calabasas. And it's not to say you've never had a struggle, but the struggle that you're trying to claim you've definitely never had, you know, and it's like.

[Trisha Paytas]

And you have it all. And you still have it all. Like, you have it all. I think Danielle, she had to be the catch me outside girl, so she had to be that meme and that joke, and she.

[Tana Mongeau]

She has it all now, but she really much, very much worked for it and clawed her way out of a situation that was really tragic. And her mom and Dr. Phil in the camps and. And just the way the world was to her at such a young age.

[Trisha Paytas]

Even doing, oh, f. At 18 and having everyone waiting for you to turn 18. Like, obviously, she's making lots of money off of it, but even that, I know she's fully, like, consenting and everything, but even that has to have some sort of, like, weight on you.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, cancer then and a baby and struggles with the baby. Like, she's been through a lot, and she is still that. She's so talented. It's like. And she just prevails, you know? Like, I think with bad baby circumstances, a lot of people wouldn't prevail.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. And I think, like, it's like, I always blame the guy in this situation. Like, I hate that it's like, the two girls going at each other, because it's like, at the end of the day, it really is Lavon's, like, issue. Like, what are you doing? Like, this is your. The mother of your baby. Like, what are you doing? And then Alabama's so young. I don't know Danielle's age. I'm assuming she's very young, too. But yes. Album's like, 19.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

So way too young. And Lavon is older, right? He's like, 27 or something. I don't know. We should, like. Okay. I think he's, like, way older than both of them. Not, like, as in, like, five or six years, which is, like, a big difference at 19 to, like, 27. I'll, like, double check his age, but 26. So what are you doing? And then I think I say the same to Alabama. Like, girl, you could literally have, like, anyone. You're so pretty. You're so beautiful. You could have anyone to be, like, messy like this when you have everything. Like, we talk about this, right? Like, I wish I didn't have a messy past because everything's going so good. And when you have everything at your fingertips, like, don't mess it up. And I feel like she'll mess it up for herself. Because I've always had empathy for Alabama during everything. Like, I've always had empathy because of her age. She also got, like, weird older men calling her sexy when she was, like, 13 and stuff like that. Just being. I know Ricegum said something about her whatever, so I. I know she's had, like, stuff too. So I'm just like, what? What are you doing? And then like, girls against girls make me, like, so sad. And I just. Yeah. She said she didn't know, right. Alabama's like, why didn't know? But at the end of the day.

[Tana Mongeau]

If I just think it's like, even just the Lavon situation aside, I think it's like choosing to go against bad baby when you don't have the. The tools, the. The. You know what I mean? Like, the skill to go again. Like, oh, really?

[Trisha Paytas]

You don't think she eats the same.

[Tana Mongeau]

I don't think anyone should pick a fight with Bhad Bhabie, let alone Alabama Barker. I think Alabama Barker should. And she's young and she still has very much the time, but I just maybe a path that's more authentic to her life and what it should be. And to me, that's like, very much Avril Lavigne, very much Travis Barker, very much what Landon's doing, very much Calabasas, very much King Kylie, very much, you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Know, and so she's so could be that. I feel like. I mean, I know she probably likes the hip hop culture. She raps too, right? So she's kind of like, in that field. I just wish, like, if I was like, her mom, because I think, okay, maybe this is, like, clout, right? Maybe they want to go back and forth for, like, the views and maybe that, like, works to some capacity. But, gosh, it just. It'll like, stay with you for so long. In Alabama, like, everyone was. I root for her because, like, I saw guys be so gross to her when she was like, 12, 13, like, saying some about her. So I like, rooted for her. And you, like, you don't want to go backwards. And I just feel like it doesn't. It's like, not a good look. I think immediately you should just been like, oh, my God, I did not know she was with you. I'm so sorry.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Period.

[Tana Mongeau]

Even just in the whole situation, I'm kind of like, even now, it's like, just apologize and like, take like the. You know. Yeah, but I mean, I don't think her mom is slaying Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, mom. Which one did Alabama? Oh, I don't know. I know nothing about that. Like, her biological mom. I don't know.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Let me not, like, actually, like, presume, but. Yeah, if I was Shannon Moakler, I would be like, oh, right, right. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And that's why I have empathy, too. And I. Again, I don't know the situation. I just. I. I presume Travis raised them mostly right because, like, issues with that. So I also have empathy for that, like, not having a mom. Especially when you have everything. Right. When you're like, I have everything, why is. I don't know the full situation. So maybe her mom's more present than we think. But I know they've had, like, issues publicly where she, like, didn't wish her happy Mother's Day, something like that. So I have, like, a lot of empathy for that, too, because that'd be awful, too. You. And you're just like, why doesn't my mom want.

[Tana Mongeau]

You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

So I think there's, like, so many not issues, but it's just like, damn. Yeah. I don't. I don't know, but she has a. Seems like a good support system. She has an older sister. She has, like, all this stuff like that.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Whereas Danielle, I don't know her lore as much, but doesn't seem like she has that support with, like, a family.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. I know that her and her mom kind of were, but the mom is just up, I think, like, well, taking.

[Trisha Paytas]

Your daughter on Dr. Phil, I don't care how effed up you are, like, take her to help. Like, don't take her to Dr. Phil 100% to, like, just be, like, humiliated and mocked. I mean, that's. That's crazy because Dr. Phil also doesn't help people. Like, some people to help people. Yeah. Well, even then, like, you said, she was kind of sent to these camps that, like, did nothing but, like.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. And then, like, still spoke out against them.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's just.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's all crazy. Yeah. I think that that's the thing is, like, watching Alabama continue to double down is a hard watch. Like, I was. If I were in her life, I would be, like, backtrack. Like, it's okay, say, to put your pride aside and, like, because you know what I mean? Like, Bhad Bhabie's an annihilator. She's just going to annihilate you every time. Like, you know, and even so, even.

[Trisha Paytas]

If Alabama, you're, like, 100% in the right. You're like, I did nothing Wrong. Still apologize. Be like, people are seeing it.

[Tana Mongeau]

You're not gonna win this battle.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Everyone's telling you this is messed up. You just be like, I'm so sorry. And I think she did. She's like, I didn't know. So if you really didn't know, just like, I am so sorry. Like, and to both these girls, I do not want fights with either of you. You both scare me. And I'm. I just, I wanna be cool, but if I was your mother's, you know, just, you know, Bhad Bhabie put out a good song. It has a lot of streams. In a way, Alabama, I guess, should be flattered. The song, you know, views and hits.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I mean, yeah, it's a lot of fame around it. I just, I do. I. I would love to see like a growth story arc for Alabama. Like, I. Because I think I've been in that situation too where you just keep with the Internet drama and you build this footprint for yourself and you look back.

[Trisha Paytas]

And you're like, be careful because that. That footprint's with you. My 19 year old self is still with me and I always get a little haunted by her where I'm always like, every time I think I want to get in drama with someone, I'm like, ooh, 2007, I made a video. You're just like, whoa. And it's there forever.

[Tana Mongeau]

My footprint. Yeah. There's so many things I would take back, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So I don't know. I really. I have a soft spot. I know more about Alabama than I do Danielle, so I have like more of a soft spot for her. But I think in this situation, it's just, you know, apologize. Your dad's Travis Barker. It's so cool. You know what I mean?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. It's just. It just feels like watching someone so publicly be on the incorrect path.

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Tana Mongeau]

Wow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Thank you, DraftKings.

[Tana Mongeau]

Thank you, DraftKings. We love you, you know, which is just like.

[Trisha Paytas]

And everyone I know, like all my glam people I've worked with her. Like, she's really, really sweet. She's sweet. When you see her on live. She's very sweet to like the people in the house that help them out and stuff like that. She's like very sweet to them.

[Tana Mongeau]

So I was such a different experience with Olivia and all the tea. Yeah, we don't like, like there's a hole.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh really?

[Tana Mongeau]

Honestly, she's so much younger than me to the point that I'm not gonna actually like carry on beef forever, but I don't think I really like her.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, but what age did you meet her?

[Tana Mongeau]

I've never met her.

[Trisha Paytas]

She just online.

[Tana Mongeau]

Online. Yeah. Talking after all this. But again, like, I can understand. Yeah. You know, it's not like it's like it was keeping me up at night. I just like, I know a lot of people. She has kind of like over like and like it's. I think she's on this tyrant and rampage.

[Trisha Paytas]

But do you think like teenage you would have been like similar. Like 17 year old Tana not as like awful to people. You're saying mean or like, like I.

[Tana Mongeau]

Have hair girls that like she owes thousands of dollars. Like, you know what I mean? Where it's like, okay, well damn. Okay, pay them.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. Maybe does she know? Maybe she doesn't. I'm trying to give her benefit of the doubt. Yeah, whatever.

[Tana Mongeau]

But I need to stop. Like I've, I've done my fair share of.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Talking about her and I do think that at this, this point I'm beating a dead horse with anything I could say. Like, I'm not kidding. The last like five canceled episodes we've covered this. Like I. People know my take. You know, and I think there's always room for growth. And I like, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

When they're just so young. Like she's an actual teenager. I'm just like, that's to. Oh people money. But it's also like, I know that's.

[Tana Mongeau]

Why there's no real like. And even just that, like, that's not my beef. Let me not say that because I sound like team Bryce. But it's not my beef. But you know, like there's no personal hatred.

[Trisha Paytas]

Baby on God.

[Tana Mongeau]

Team Bad Baby on God for sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

Team album over here for her. So I don't know the beef between you guys, but I think this one. But also how deep can it be fee with a 19 year old? You know, that's the thing.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's all I, I all I hope for everyone in the situation is just happiness and growth and Bhad Bhabie deserves nothing but like peace. Truly. But I will say things like this. Bring out Bhad Bhabie's talent which is iconic.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know her, her stories are. Is so crazy to me. So I have, I have so much like empathy for her too. I just sit. Team Alabama.

[Tana Mongeau]

I think she's icon living and I think Alabama has all the tools to be an icon living. And that's my team.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I'm here for both. I think they're.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. There's a world where both of them could be so successful in their own lane. I think Bhad Bhabie has found her lane. That's the problem. It's like Alabama's trying to succeed in Bad Baby's lane and I would love to see her in her own, you know, do doing. Get ready with me. Come out with the makeup line.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, you know there's, there's all of it.

[Tana Mongeau]

You have all the tools. Be a Kardashians.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, oh my God. She was my stepmom. I'm just, I'm done. I'm done.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'd be taking those Let me gummies. I'd have a cute parties.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Disneyland, everyday vip.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes. Every day. Trav. I'd be saying Trav, your dad's Travis.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think that's the coolest thing. Yes. I always thought that was so cool.

[Tana Mongeau]

Get on the drums, diva.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, you know, there's just so much.

[Trisha Paytas]

Landon's so cool like that family's so cool to me. So I'm just like slay. Oscar De La Hoya was just on Masked Singer and now the first thing I thought about was Atiana. I was like, is that Tatiana's dad?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Crazy. She's. Atiana's path is like, I just want to see that for, you know, like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, she's on a good path. I don't really know.

[Tana Mongeau]

She's just killing it. Quiet luxury.

[Trisha Paytas]

Quiet Luxury is the way.

[Tana Mongeau]

I've never been quiet and luxurious, ever.

[Trisha Paytas]

With a pink cat.

[Tana Mongeau]

Just. I have nothing about me is quiet luxury. So I don't know why I'm over here trying to speak on it. Seriously, can we.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Next week. Our whole episode is back.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, I mean, I've talked about it at nauseam. Seriously. So I didn't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't know. There was like. I knew once, like, a while ago, and I don't really even know what the beef was. I just was like, oh, well, she's young.

[Tana Mongeau]

It is layered. Like, actually, if I had to explain it to you in full, it would take me like eight hours probably.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God, that's exhausting. Yeah, well, we won't. So young. I don't know.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's the thing. That is the thing. That's the bottom line. Takeaway is there's so much room there for growth and we did stupid at her age, and it sucks to have it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Me at 19 was not a good person.

[Tana Mongeau]

Have it be so public and, you know, just all of it.

[Caller]

Hi, Trish. Hi, Tana. I love you guys so much. I just cut it off for the final time with my toxic abusing ex, and I. I don't have anybody to tell me that they're proud of me. It's so hard. And I know you guys have been here before, so any love and support. Thank you. I love you guys.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Right away, the pain in her voice.

[Tana Mongeau]

Ms. Thing, I'm so proud of you. That's like, oh, my God. I'm not gonna have an eyelash by the third. Not Loveline. I wish. So proud of you. I mean, let's just start there. Let's. And I know how that feels, you know, just to feel like you're so alone in this relationship struggle and it almost wants to push you right back into the arms of that person. And that, like, oh, my God. It's like abusive, toxic. Men too, live for that. To isolate you and to be like, oh, she has no one. She'll just come back, you know, and it's like, oh, my God. I just want to say, first of all, diva, it is always nice to have people around you, you know, to be like, I'm so proud of you and it's the best thing in the world. But regardless, right now, like, go get up and look in the mirror and be like, I am so proud of you because you are all you need. And like, oh, my God, you are about to be vibrating on such a higher frequency. Like, I Can't congratulate you enough. Like, oh, I can't congratulate you enough. Because whether you are alone or not, it is so much better to be alone without that man. It is because you have to remember that even when you are with him, you are still alone. Like, you are still alone in the things that you're feeling and the abuse and that you're never going to be able to not feel alone. So long as you keep going back to him, he will keep you isolated. You will remain at this level. Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

So proud of you. To, like, end. I've never been able to end anything. Like, you know what I mean? To, like, end it and be done with him and, like, stay done with him. Don't go back, like, because it's just. It's. It's the worst relapse to go back to someone who's awful and terrible like this. But I'm so proud of you, too. Something I've never been able to accomplish at 37 years old. I've never been able to break it off with someone, no matter how awful they are. So, like, that's a huge feat. And you're so strong. I think that's the ultimate willpower. It's like, break it off and keep it off with someone. And, yeah, I think just stay out of it. Just don't go back, like, so much, so much better. I feel like we always talk about this, but someone's so much better come. Even if you don't think it, like, someone's so much better come along that's, like, so perfect for you. It's, like, gonna be obsessed with you and love you, and you're like, thank God that ended. So you're so strong for doing that. And you get the final word in.

[Tana Mongeau]

There, and you have to know that you are so worthy of something that is not him. And that you, no matter how much you believe right now, I'm telling you, please believe me, that you are so worthy of love. That is not that. And it will come. It will come. I cannot stress that enough. And it's like, you have to remember as well that give yourself grace in the regard that even, like, you're saying it's so hard to cut someone off. And the brain's chemical addiction to toxic relationships is so similar to the brain's chemical addiction to drugs. So do not feel weak and worthless and, like, all of the negative things, because it's so hard for you to cut him off. And because you keep going back because it is just, like, relapsing on drugs. It is. You have to actively wake up every day, and the only thing you do that day is remain no contact with that man. That is one successful day down, and you have to remain no contact. There's no such thing in where you're at right now. If I can gauge, there's no such thing as kind of talking to him. And you need to distract yourself. You need to start going and doing things and reaching out to people. Get on bumble. Bff. Meet a girl. Go do something with her. Like, I don't. Whatever it is, you need to fill your time with as many things, things that are not him and get as far away as you can. And before you know it, you will be calling us back, laughing at this exact moment. I would bet my foot.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh. I look back at relationships where I'm just like, was so. And I look back, I'm like, oh, my God. Like, what the. Like, it's crazy. It's crazy how, like, yeah, you'll look back and be like, that was so sad. Like, I can't believe that. So.

[Tana Mongeau]

And now you. You will have this call, and you will be able to look back and laugh. And I just want you to know I'm so proud of you. And, like, please, as hard as it is, just one day down, day at a time, every single day, further away from this man is everything. And before you know it, you will be laughing at this call. And we are so proud of you. And go look in that mirror and congratulate that. Because sometimes there are moments in life where the only person holding your hand is you. And they are so hard and they're so dark, but you make it out the other side, and you're like, I've got me. Put all that love that you want to put into him or into any man into yourself. Yourself. Because that is the biggest reward. You know, it's just. Wow. I love you.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love you, too. Congrats, girl. You did it.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes. Dead.

[Trisha Paytas]

You took the trash out.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's the hardest part. Don't bring that trash back in the house.

[Trisha Paytas]

Let the rodents get it.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes, please. That is so real. We love you. And I. I can't even thank you so much for calling in and for sharing that with us. Because, like, even right now, know that, like, you might have helped somebody else with that, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, so true. That's why I love. This is like, even if they're not brave enough to call in so many, like, it's like the white lotus of it all, where it's like, it's so niche, but it's like, I relate to that, actually. You know what I mean?

[Tana Mongeau]

Keep telling people, tell the barista at the coffee shop. Keep speaking into existence that this man is out of your life and you're in a new era. And I. I promise you will reap all of the benefits, starting with the number one. Just being happy and healthy and alone. Being alone is a good thing sometimes. And instead of, I'm alone, think I'm alone. Yeah, like, you know, it's. That can be a really good thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

You did that. I hate that I was never the one to cut it off. And, God, I really had to be like, wait for them to block me. It's like, damn it. Like, I wish I would have been the one. So that's, like, so much power.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, my God, there's so many men that I, like, begged for back or I did the wraparound with for so long. And eventually, when you get out of it, you're like, God, I wish I did it sooner. But at the same time, think of all the lessons that you learned and you will carry with you into the future, and that will bring you to your ideal dream partner. I can't stress enough. And just your ideal dream life. And God, you learn so many lessons when you're. When you feel alone. I'm serious. It can be the greatest thing to ever happen. Oh, my queen, I love you, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

There'S leopard one coming. Yeah, I was just, like, with our set so colorful. Why are we having.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, no, it's a nice start, though. I love that it says, call Trisha and Hannah today, too. Like, the water's even promoting us. Us. Like, we're hydrated and we're getting calls.

[Trisha Paytas]

We should have the phone number on here so when someone has it, they're like, you know what? I'm going to call. Yeah. Okay, next one we should.

[Tana Mongeau]

We should make. We should make stickers and give them to people in our lives to, like, go put around, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I'll do it. I'll just put it everywhere. That'd be so cute. Okay, we'll make stickers. Vista print. I make stickers all the time on there. I love you. I was like, anything you want. We can do the line of not love Lane Chotis is coming out like fruit spray.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes, yes. It's everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm got the fuzzy socks, too. Because if we're having. Ooh, like, leopard print handcrest. Stop it.

[Tana Mongeau]

We should be handcuffed to each other for an episode.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, we kind of Are we're close?

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, come on.

[Trisha Paytas]

My arm might hurt, but I'm down. I'll try.

[Tana Mongeau]

You're right. It might be a lot, but I don't know, I guess if we're promoting camp in my head, maybe for a photo.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it. I think that's actually so cute. Getting arrested in leopard.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, my God, Trisha, I would love to get arrested with you.

[Trisha Paytas]

That would be crazy. What would we be arrested for?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Being way too hot. I'm actually trying to think, like, an actual arrest.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm trying to think what I'd get arrested for.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, public indecency, maybe.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, what does that mean?

[Tana Mongeau]

Inciting a riot. Like, a lot of people would come to see us and we'd get arrested.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love that. Can you get arrested for that?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really?

[Tana Mongeau]

Well, yeah, but you have to, like, incite a riot. Like, it's not like if you go to the Grove and everyone mobs you, like, that's not your fault. But, like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, really?

[Tana Mongeau]

We did, like, everybody meet me at the Ralph's on Sunset, and everybody went and, like, something happened. Like, meet me there and punch any straight men.

[Trisha Paytas]

You see.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes. I would live for.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's inside any riot.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. That would be our arrest. And imagine our mug shots.

[Trisha Paytas]

Your mug shot was cute. You had one at Coachella.

[Tana Mongeau]

But I had my ears out. And, you know, I want to redo it. Let me not manifest this, actually.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah. No, we are staying clean.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Away from Coachella.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes. All the things away. No mug shots, even though it would be camp.

[Trisha Paytas]

Me, too. I don't. I don't want to get arrested. I don't think that sounds fun. Some people love to do it.

[Tana Mongeau]

I know. They really do.

[Trisha Paytas]

They want to, like, go back to jail, I think. Who's talking about this with maybe Jeff, where people, like, get out of jail and they want to, like.

[Tana Mongeau]

Jeff romanticizes jail the way I romanticize, like, Sephora.

[Trisha Paytas]

He really does. I was like, wow, you kind of make it, like, want to go back or something.

[Tana Mongeau]

I like the way I'm like, I want to go to Sephora. He's like, I want to go to jail. You know, I've never understood it. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

All right, well, another caller.

[Tana Mongeau]

We need something light. We need something whatever. Actually, Devin surprised me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Something light.

[Caller]

Hi, Trish. Hi, Tiana. I'm calling in because I am happily married for almost 10 years now. We have beautiful children, and my husband's in the military. He is unfortunately going to be leaving sometime, so he'll be away from me and our kids. And I was just wondering, Trish, what would you do if you, if Moses had to go away for a couple of months? How would you keep your children entertained? And Tana, I know that you're in a long distance relationship, so sometimes. So how would you handle. Or how do you handle the crippling loneliness? Okay, I love you guys.

[Trisha Paytas]

Bye.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do love how we have an answer to each half of the questions on Patreon. Someone was asking about, like, being in a relationship with like a close friend. You're like, I can relate to that. And then you're like, that doesn't like your bush. I was like, oh, I can relate to that. So we have like two separate answers and this question's the very same because you're like, the long distance, like, you done it. And yeah, mine was taking care of the kids, keeping them entertained. So let's do long distance first.

[Tana Mongeau]

I mean, I just want to say that I stopped saying I'm in a long distance relations relationship because of literally things like this. Because, I mean, I, yes, I am, quote, unquote, like, he will go away now and again and we'll spend some weeks apart and whatnot. But I would post and I'd be like, how long distance is so hard, right? And then someone would comment like, my boyfriend's in the military. I haven't seen him in six months. And I was like, I need to shut the up. Like, I wouldn't know a struggle in this regard if it hit me in.

[Trisha Paytas]

The face, you know, relative.

[Tana Mongeau]

So I, yeah, so I stopped saying that because it's just like, like what I have as a cakewalk in comparison to so many other people. I will say, though, when I do spend time apart from moa, obviously, again, I can't imagine a scenario like this, but I do just try to fill my time with things that I wouldn't normally. I think when you're like, with your man, you get very comfortable in lots of ways. And I, I try to focus on all the things that I just wouldn't normally get done. Whether that's stuff around the house, organizational, whether that's like journaling my thoughts, whether that's like, like I make my shower routine way longer, like, just stupid. Like, I just, I really pour that into myself as much as I can. Then I crash out and like cry and freak the out for the rest of the time. But, you know, read a book that, like, you know, watch a show that men hate, like, do all the things that, like, are just for you and the girlies, but the children. That is wild.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Keeping children in taint. I honestly, I have, I have no advice. We were just talking about this too. Like, I, I don't know. I go away for the weekend and Moses with the kids, and like, ours are really young, so I, like, don't even know how I could even take both of them out. Like, how do you take one out without one running into, like, the traffic? You know what I mean? Like, because even parking, it just the logistics. How do you get one out? You're holding the, like, it's just, it's. I don't know. So maybe they're older. And if they're older, I mean, I guess it might be a little easier. You could go swim or, like, play at the park or, like, you know, stuff where they can, you know, understand to, like, not run away from you or something like that. So. So that's tough. I'm not gonna lie. I don't really have any answers. The first one. I'm actually stumped. To entertain your kids for the entire weekend by yourself or not even the weekend. How long he's gone, he's deployed. I don't know. That is, like you said, I should never complain about anything in my life because that's, like, so insane to do. So family, friends, classes. I love a good class, you know, so you can, like, get out, exhaust them. I love Malibu. Loves to run around, and she just runs around the house, and then she, she gets tired.

[Tana Mongeau]

Maybe you guys start, like, a big project, like a big craft, like a 2000 piece puzzle, and then you mod podge it on the wall. Like, you know that maybe you're like, decorating or you're doing. You know what I mean? I just, like, I feel like I would be like, let's do this big major craft that's gonna, like, take a month. And then when he comes home, we can all show him, like, what we did.

[Trisha Paytas]

Puzzles are. I forgot about puzzles. We used to do a big hamburger one that was like 2,000 pieces, and it was so hard. And then we would just, like, work on it every day.

[Tana Mongeau]

I feel like I'm always seeing, like, inexpensive diy, like, home projects on Tick Tock. And like, I, I, that's something that I wouldn't do if, like, Makoa was there. But if he left, I'd be like, you know what? Let me, like, make this mosaic. And then he'll come home and, like, you know, I don't know, maybe there's a fun craft. Let me shut the Up.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's so good. No, that actually was so good. I would never have thought about any of that. And I was thinking, like, nice to you as a kid.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, I just have fun craft with the kids. That's, like, what I. I feel like kids would give me an excuse to do all the, like, fun crafts and painting and stuff. Like, I love a craft.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm horrible at crafts. Me, too. Like, but it is. It's cute to see that Moses does the crafts with that. Them. Yeah. I love to do a little, like, song or performance. You know what I mean? Like, let's perform.

[Tana Mongeau]

But you guys could put together a crazy performance for him.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's so fun all the time. That was so fun. So.

[Tana Mongeau]

And just do fun little things. Maybe. Like, you guys write him little letters and you make little scrapbook pages of, like, your week. Have you seen people who do. They do junk journaling?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

And they keep all the receipts and fun things from, like, their days. And then you can make that for him and mail it to him, and he would love it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I want to scrapbook with my kids. That's so fun. I never asked you that as a kid either. And I was like, I always have no one to do that. You're giving me ideas. I'm like, love that. I'm doing that for my kids.

[Tana Mongeau]

Not kidding you.

[Trisha Paytas]

You just know how to do everything with kids.

[Tana Mongeau]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't get one answer, and you're like, scrap.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's because you have kids and they fill your mind and you're busy, and I'm just sitting here like, maybe you guys should craft.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, that's so good. Mine was like, put on Sunny Bunnies. I don't know.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, that's. Yeah, that's Sunny Bunnies.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's these little, like. It's from Russia. It's like a little Russian cartoon. And they're like these little rainbows. Bunnies. I guess they come from the rainbow, I guess.

[Tana Mongeau]

And they come out of obsession, actually, because I'll go full pepper.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're Sunny Bunnies.

[Tana Mongeau]

Wait, Sunny Bunnies are so. No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because they have a little robot that takes care of them. Here on Earth, there's no humans, but they're in an Earth world. But there's no humans. It's just the four sunny Bunnies.

[Tana Mongeau]

Wait, that's kind of everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

And Malboo always calls me Big Boo. Which is the big pink one? Is a big, fat pink one. I'm like, okay. Kids are so honest. And she. The dad's the robot. The dad Moses is the robot. I'm like, which one is Daddy? And she. She's like the robot. And then she's like, she's Hopper, the little green one. And then like, which one is Elvis? Shiny. Who's a cute little blue one? Like, what is the mom? She's like Big Boo, but pink.

[Tana Mongeau]

If you think about it, you know, like everything, you know, extravagant and pink.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it. Yeah, I'll take Big Boo all day long. It's just such a funny name to be called.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, that's true.

[Trisha Paytas]

Someone in the airport called me Big Mama and I thought it was like Big mama's house, like the movie with Martin Lawrence. But I guess that's a nickname for lotto. And I was like, I'll take Lotta over Big Mama. So I was joking because I literally was like, what? I'm like, I've never heard that she like Lotto. Big Mom. I was like, oh, okay, that's so much better than Martin Lawrence.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, I was about to swing on you.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like, that's crazy.

[Tana Mongeau]

But oh, my God, airport interactions are so dystopian sometimes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, especially like 6am in the airport, the TSA, there was a TSA person and she's just like, okay, Big Mama. I was like, okay.

[Tana Mongeau]

That is. It is so funny when it's the TSA people because their outfits are so official. And then I'll be going through tsa, I'm like a woman in her TSA outfit. Be like, yes, you made me confident eating. And I'm like, it's 7am and the.

[Trisha Paytas]

Airlines are the air. The, like, flight attendants are always so wild too. I love it. They're always like their fans.

[Tana Mongeau]

In my drinking days, flight attendants, like, were. Oh, I love flight attendants so much. Like, their job is so noble, obviously. But every time I would meet a flight attendant that was a supporter, they would just bring me like nine shooters. Always, like, every time I would fly, that was like the go to. Even now they'll still do it and I'll be like giving them to Makoa, who I'm with or whatever. And it's so, so sweet that they're like raiding the whole planes mini bar for me. But I would leave so many planes so drunk. And then I would tell the flight attendants my whole life story and wow, that's.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's a luxury. I wish they give me some free chips or something.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I like, I'll see them now and again to their certain ones where, like, they fly the same flight patterns, you know? So, like, I always would take this, like, 9pm Southwest flight to Vegas. And then I'll always see the same guy.

[Trisha Paytas]

And like humble queen over there was Southwest. I love that. I thought you'd be at least jet suite X, girl.

[Tana Mongeau]

Well, yeah, but they stopped flying at like 7:00pm so, you know, I sometimes I need my 9:00pm I love that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Southwest, though now charging for bags. Are they? Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

You're lying. Yeah, Southwest is now charging for bags.

[Trisha Paytas]

Nobody wanted to fly you in the first place, but they're definitely not going to fly you now.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's how I feel about going brunette. It's like you can't. Like you're known for. You're known for being blonde. You're known for the two free bags. Like, you can't do that. You're Southwest.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's inflation. What are you going to do?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, I guess that's what I would almost rather than make their flights more expensive. And then they still have the free bags like the same, you know, they're known for that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Let me.

[Tana Mongeau]

Shut up.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I get you to feel like you're getting a free something.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Loveline is the only place where I'm not like stained big T shirt. And it like, really makes me feel Tick Tock.

[Trisha Paytas]

You always look so put together.

[Tana Mongeau]

You never look like you're like, y'all.

[Trisha Paytas]

You look cute all the time on Tick Tock.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm just gonna let you lie like that and I'm gonna take it and I'm gonna say, thank you so much, but. Oh, good girl.

[Trisha Paytas]

We need to do a tik tok trend when we have our skims pajamas. I gotta figure out I never do tiktoks when you're here. I always forget.

[Tana Mongeau]

I know. Well, we're just. We put our all into Loveline.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Okay. Who. Who needs what? This is a good one. This is a good one. Devin says good ones usually make me crash out, so.

[Caller]

Hi, Trish. Hi, Tana. First of all, love you guys. I'm a huge fan. This isn't really love advice or anything, but I'm just really curious what your guys, like, pettiest moment is, whether it was with an ex or a friend or a coworker. I think mine was the other day. I work in healthcare and we're really short staffed and everyone's just really burnt out and a coworker called in sick and it made the day super terrible because we were so short staffed. And then I saw on social media that he was actually at a Lego convention. So I printed off the picture from his social media and I slid it under my manager's door. And I hope he gets in trouble, but he probably won't because Union. But I hope he gets in trouble. So anyway, that's my pettiest moment most recently. So I want to hear from you guys. What's your most pettiest moment?

[Tana Mongeau]

I just want to say that this woman is. What's the word? Like, she. I want her to be like this. To spearhead this movement. Okay, everyone, please call in and tell us the pettiest we've done this week.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love. I love a petty.

[Tana Mongeau]

I love a petty anecdote because I think that as I've grown, I'm, like, trying to be less petty. Yeah, but I used to live for that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Give me some petty. Because I'm like, I'm not even trying to be. Like, I've never been petty, because I'm sure I have, but I'm, like, trying to think, like, what? Give me something.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's hard for me to even go off the top of my head and. And think. Like, I've. Oh, my. I've done all the petty things. Like just like, put a man's toothbrush in the toilet and put it right back. Just casual. Like, I used to just casually do petty. Petty. Like that all. Like, I live for a little petty anecdote only because I used to be really big on. Like, I thought I had to be the person to, like, get my revenge.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sure. Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Versus, like, letting karma take control. And as I've gotten older, I've 100 learned that lesson. I used to always. You know what I thought 8. And I look back now, and it's like, I. I wasn't eating in the slightest. Is if a guy would cheat on me with a girl. Like, I would go. And the girl. And I thought the guy would care.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's a cute petty. Cute.

[Tana Mongeau]

Petty. But, like, I thought I was doing something. Like, I story I'm gonna tell on tour about this on stage where I did that. I did this whole elaborate plan to, like, the girl that the guy. You know what I mean? Like, cheated on me with. And it's like, he doesn't care, you know? Like, I think I had to learn that, like, just people don't care. What do you mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, he. Did he find out? Did you send him pictures? Like, how.

[Tana Mongeau]

But he was, like, cool. You know what I mean? Like, it's not more hot.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's like, well, can I get in there too? Yeah, like, it's like.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, you thought you were doing this. This whole. And you weren't. You Know, like, just so much pettiness. Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm, like, trying to really think, I guess. I mean, one time, I mean, we talked about it. The only thing I could kind of think of, I put up that billboard of, like, me and Fabio, like, above his house and bed. I think that was. But that's, like, not super pretty a song is.

[Tana Mongeau]

You put a billboard of you and him above his house to have to see it. That's.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's so embarrassing. Like, I remember I did that music video with Fabio to, like, make this person. I was like, what the. Like, that's so weird.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, Brooklyn is gonna do that at some point.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't have the embedded Fabio.

[Tana Mongeau]

No. No billboard. Billboard to, like, outside of someone's house to, like, piss them off, and I forget who it was.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess that's kind of a cool thing. It's very modern to do now. Be like, look at me. Like, watch me now. It's like, yeah, but it's not. I wish I could have been more petty. Like, there was one time, maybe when I was, like, 24, I started, like, a fake Twitter to, like, tweet things about this guy, but I shut it down really quick because I was so scared of getting, like, found out. Like, I don't know how it works. Like, IP addresses is tracking. Like, all that stuff always scares me, so I'm always just like, no. But I've never. Did you see Speaking Patty, what was it? I'm weirdly, like, into this Brianna chicken fry, like, lore. I don't really follow her necessarily, but all this stuff comes up. Did you see the one where she talked about. She showed, like, a screenshot, and it was like, you know that trend that's like, she didn't know this, but five.

[Tana Mongeau]

Minutes ago, I just saw that. You saw the Brian, like, like, it was the night of her show, and Zach Bryan was the married woman while the husband was there. And then she, like, drove him home.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And then he called her, like, picking a fight with Brianna being, like, what the. Like, crazy. I was just like, I love. I love when a girl spills, though. I love when that happens. Especially, like, her. Like, it's like, he's so public. And I like when you, like, again, because, like, this thing in your 20s, you can be messy and just, like, say all this. So I do love that it was definitely me. Like, I miss. I don't miss that era, but I do love when you're just, like, real. Because also, guys need to know, you.

[Tana Mongeau]

Know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Especially someone like Zach Bryan is like, just because you're famous, like, you're not, I'm gonna put you. Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, a lot of my pettiness, I guess, has been putting people on blast as well.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, I mean, so.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Yeah, I could hold that as, like, petty. I can't differentiate petty and crazy. I was just thinking about this time where I was trying to rip up a guy's passport while we were in Australia so he couldn't fly home. And, like, that's not petty. That's just crazy. And the only reason that it didn't work is because. And obviously every sane person on planet Earth knows this, but. But, like, passport pages can't rip. They're very laminated. Like, I was shaking trying with everything in me to rip up this passport, and only because the paper wouldn't allow.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Tana Mongeau]

Did it not work?

[Trisha Paytas]

If you're talking about crazy, like, crazy. A list.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, there's.

[Trisha Paytas]

The list is endless.

[Tana Mongeau]

You know, I don't know where petty and crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think petty's more cutesy. I think crazy is like. Yeah, like not letting you leave this house, you know, or country. Yeah, no, I know. I kept someone's passport. And I think it was on a podcast with Jordan. I think my very first podcast we go to Gestures. Like, my very first podcast on that channel is with Jordan.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Isn't that so funny?

[Trisha Paytas]

Crazy. We had, like, three podcasts together, and I talked to him about having my ex's passport, and then the ex contacted him and was like, can you get that?

[Tana Mongeau]

Because react to that? Like, why would that be? Just, like, I just, like, want to see. It's so funny. He's a great conversationalist, though.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, he was. Yeah, he was really charming. But that's what I knew early on. I never wanted, like, an official co host, because I remember when I had Shane on, Jordan was there, and I kept thinking, like, why are you here? Because it's like, I want to just talk to Shane. You know, that's my issue. And, like, there's no. No shade to anyone. But, like, even for just trash, when there's guests, I like to do it one on one. Because sometimes I just like one. It's such a different conversation when there's, like, a third. And not to say the third isn't great, because Jordan is great. He obviously knows Shane, too. But it's always, like, a different dynamic when you have such a different relationship with someone and then, like, a third person's in there. So I've always. That's when I kind of knew early on that, I was like, oh, I don't want to have like, I guess he was my co host for like three.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's so funny. That's like so funny. Yeah. I mean, with the co host, with everything, it's like I. You just have to run everything by them. Like all of the. You know what I mean? It becomes a multi part organization. Whereas like when it's just you being able to make all the decisions, let the flow flag fly, it goes the way you want. You know, there's benefits to both.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, even like us. I mean, we definitely like have to coordinate times where not only it's like you and me, but like Devin's. I mean, another thing about a guest is like getting that guest and everyone's just so busy. Like, that's why we had to film six episodes in one day. Because there's like, you're gone to Miami, then I'm gone to Cleveland and then like Coachella. Coachella. And I was like, there's actually not. And then you're gone. You're gone like that next weekend. So I was like, there's just actually not a date. So there was like three dates and that was it. So it's hard to coordinate everything and then. Yeah, the dynamics are different. You know what I mean?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. And just creatively, I. I always am so grateful that you and I creatively, kind of, we see the same vision because. And sometimes it's nice to have somebody see an opposite vision of you because then like an amazing product is made from that. Like, sometimes it doesn't need to just be all you, but it can be a lot more back and forth and headbutting and you know, if you're not like. I think some of Brooke and I's best work does come from the fact that we have different creative visions, you know, but also like, it's a lot more work to like get to the final product when it's not just you.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, and let me say that too. Like, there's obviously, obviously so many plus sides of having a. Like, I love just talking. It's so much easier. Obviously Oscar is with us on Hot Topics. That's so I can't do Hot Topics alone. Like, I can't just talk to myself. Like, that's so boring. So like, I do love that there's like good aspects of it, but as far as like always just having like, I don't know, I'm. You know, it's good aspects. Like, I love having a little solo action. I like.

[Tana Mongeau]

Funny though. Trisha, Paytas And Jordan Worona. We've always been. So it's.

[Trisha Paytas]

It is just like.

[Tana Mongeau]

I can't express to you how funny it is, like, how close yet far we were. So many parts.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think I really did just, like, reheat your nachos because I. That's my favorite term. I'm so.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, but I love it. I love it. You're gonna get me saying it, and then I'm never gonna say even Jordan.

[Trisha Paytas]

I just remember seeing how well you were doing. So, like, I don't even know how we even. God, I don't even know how we met up. That's so weird because I never have managers. The only managers I've ever had were Tana's. I had Jordan, but I don't know how that happened. And then I had David, and I don't know how that happened either.

[Tana Mongeau]

I don't know how David happened. He just, like, fell into my lap as well. That's funny. I love him, though.

[Trisha Paytas]

And just mine too, because I never sought out people. So I'm very confused. I really would have to think about it.

[Tana Mongeau]

Looking back. I should have had a podcast with Jordan at that time because the.

[Trisha Paytas]

You guys did it. I thought you had something.

[Tana Mongeau]

No MTV show. And then like, we YouTube and stuff. But it was like, such a good dynamic because it was like wild child X. Like, yeah, sound, voice of reason. Funny, quick, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

But mine wasn't. Talk about crazy or petty. No, mine was crazy. Our exit, me and Jordan. I won't get into the details, but I don't think I've ever been batshit crazier to someone. The stuff I said to him, he was. He, like, just never. He never. He blocked me. Like, nothing went. And I went.

[Tana Mongeau]

Can you please tell me off camera in full detail?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I could tell you. And then Jimmy can, like, bleep it. Like, obviously, Jimmy, you bleep it. But, like, you just unlocked the most. I know.

[Tana Mongeau]

You just. Oh, my God, how am I gonna write a book? Because it's like you just unlocked something so pivotal. I have to write this down. Oh, my God. That I would have never remembered if we didn't have this conversation.

[Trisha Paytas]

For your reaction. Because I was like, I don't mind the react.

[Tana Mongeau]

This is why I get so discouraged. Because you will unlock, like, the most pivotal that I would never even remember.

[Trisha Paytas]

I went. I think he was, like, going on tour or something with you so he couldn't do, like, a podcast. I was just like. I was a crazy to him. That was a crazy error. I was like, 2019. So that was a crazy. And I felt really bad. And I think I apologized to him, like, kind of out of nowhere, like, literally, just because he's like, oh, I have to go to Tiana with some dates. And I just, like, went off and I was like, I don't know. That was so.

[Tana Mongeau]

I mean, I have a whole response to that. I can't say it in the podcast.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

So I'll. I. I have a whole response to that. That's really just my whole, like, that I could talk for an hour in response to that, but.

[Trisha Paytas]

And me and David and bad. I just remember. I remember he was trying to get me a podcast because I didn't know how I got podcast deals. This is before Jess Trisher, my wonder Colleen. And he was trying to help me get something because I think he was telling me about your deal that you got for canceled. And I was like, oh, I want that. You know what I mean? And we would, like, try and go out to places. And I remember him telling me, like, I wanted my name in the title. And he's like. I remember him being like, well, you're not Oprah. You're not, you know, Ellen. And I was like, but I want Trish. Like, that's my name. So he was very against. I'm like, okay, we just don't see eye to eye. Like, it's gonna be. It's gonna be Trish. That's the name of the show. Like, whatever, 100. He wanted it to be AWOL was the name. He wanted my book.

[Tana Mongeau]

Listen, I. I really love him. He is, like, forever a great friend of mine. And we just ended up kind of. We worked together for about a year. And I couldn't be more thankful for him because I think that. I mean, I've discussed the Jordan thing at length, but Jordan was so intertwined in my life, and our relationship was so not professional, you know, like, it was not manager and talent. Like, this person was like my blood and it, like, you know what I mean? It's just that your head in so many ways, and I really, genuinely needed to, like, be thrown into the water and, like, run my own and, you know, become a woman, become grown, like, all those things. And so David was kind of the stepping stone in that regard of me kind of running my whole life and growing up a lot and just detaching from so many behaviors and cycles that weren't good for me and stuff. But all of his other clients were, like, too short and, like, oh, I didn't know Ray J. And I love them like whenever, like even just David was texting me yesterday, inviting me to all that type of stuff. But I needed someone a little more well versed because I could see how he would be telling you don't put your name in the title because he's.

[Trisha Paytas]

He.

[Tana Mongeau]

He wasn't like fully in the influencer world as much as I wanted, you know, because I.

[Trisha Paytas]

My impression of him, my first impression of course was like at the canceled like episode two or whatever that you guys did. And I remember seeing the set and I was like, holy. All these like lawyers and all these people. I was like, well, this is. This is what I want. I thought it was so cool. So when he. They both came to me because there's just no way I would have reached out to them on my own. I never had have so I don't know. I remember when he reached out, I probably was like so excited. But he's a great guy. It just.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. And he brought me a lot of money too. Like he, he was good on the deals and stuff. He's a great guy.

[Trisha Paytas]

But no deals. Yeah, either of them. $0 were made, I think. I think Jordan helped me with the tour that I had end up like paying money. Jesus.

[Tana Mongeau]

So many swings and misses in this. It is just. It's crazy. The whole like talent management side of this world too is so hit or miss. Just same thing as everything agencies, all the things we always talk about what works for one person might not work for another.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, CA has been great. Bring me endless deals. Managers just never did.

[Tana Mongeau]

So I don't know if you ever. Seth and Brittany. I would die for them. I would.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I think I've been. I think I realized what works for you doesn't work for me. Like, your managers are so good and they get you all your deals. With me, I'm just like. I'm always combative with managers for some reason and they're very sweet. Your managers are nice. But even then I'm like, I think we should do this. I'm very just like hard headed.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, me too. It like I am very hard headed. I agree with that. Especially now. I think you and I probably just like are similar in the sense that like especially creative vision wise. I'm at a point where I do appreciate advice now and again and sometimes I want it. But when someone's like, you need to do this, and I'm like, no, the. I don't. Yeah, if I. If I firmly believe, like, no, I don't. I will get in the Head space where I'm like, I've been doing this for. For 10 years. You don't know better than me what Tana Mongeau means to do. And then sometimes I'm wrong. But.

[Trisha Paytas]

But even if you're wrong, you want to feel passionate about it. Because I thought even that with my name and the podcast, I'm like, even if no one else does this, I don't know. I love branding everything with my name, which I feel like you're kind of like that too. But everything I've ever done has been like a Trish. I had, like, plenty of Trish dating app. I had, like, you know, the feel like Trish Tanner. Like, I like my name in something. And even though that's kind of, like, cheesy, I don't know.

[Tana Mongeau]

I really don't feel like Trish Self tanner. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was such a good tanner, too. Too. It was such. I know we talked about your tanner.

[Tana Mongeau]

Look at me right now. I could. I need some good tanner.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I had a shimmer one.

[Tana Mongeau]

What the.

[Trisha Paytas]

Feel like, Trish, look it up. The bottle was so cute. Had my little animation on it. Yeah, I had, like, little stripes, like Victoria's Secret.

[Tana Mongeau]

Hold on one second.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it was with a really good company called Skin to Mint. Did you pull it up? Yeah, it was a great product. I think.

[Tana Mongeau]

I just couldn't. What are we doing?

[Trisha Paytas]

I couldn't sell back then. Oh, yeah, there's a little bottle.

[Tana Mongeau]

You're lying.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was a great product, too. It was actually so good. Yeah. That's so crazy.

[Tana Mongeau]

See, and when I look back at all of my other products, it's like, why was the perfume in an Alibaba bottle? Like, I could not do.

[Trisha Paytas]

My perfume was, like, in this little. My. My liquid was pink. I'm like, we made. Was it gasoline in there? Like, what was.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why was my liquid peeled?

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, my God. Yeah, we should do perfume again.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would love a perfume. Did you have your picture on the box? I loved my little.

[Tana Mongeau]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah. There's the whole line. There's an exfoliator, a shimmer.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, my God. It's pill in the thing is such an era. Like, that photo. I want that photo. Like, bring back Tumblr. I want a Tumblr.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was definitely Tumblr era where I just was, like, trying to do everything. It's aesthetic. But, yeah, I would love, like, you know, I had a skincare line that it was actually really good, but as the time was getting canceled, so everyone was, like, trying to cancel it. But I still use that bar soap to this day. And I've never had like a spot of acne since I've started using it.

[Tana Mongeau]

Okay, wait, whoa.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like a miracle bar.

[Tana Mongeau]

See it? Here's me trying to take on way more things. I'm like, we need a perfume. Imagine we had a joint perfume. It was like a little blonde girl bottle or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. That'd be actually really cute.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like a hot. Or like there was a Trish scent and it's Hannah scent.

[Trisha Paytas]

Ooh, Like a double whammy. Oh, my God, I love that.

[Tana Mongeau]

But it's like, Jesus Christ. Just get the love line filmed.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, start with the handcuff merch and the fuzzy socks.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love. I love the idea of merch stuff. I get so excited when I think about merch. I'm like, oh, I want to do this. I want to do.

[Tana Mongeau]

You know what I mean? I've always, like, love that. Like, I think that one day I would love to have like a little clothing line or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, like Snooki's boutique eats so hard. She has one in New Jersey, sells all this, like glam, like, rhinestone. I was like, I want that.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes. A Trisha boutique would be.

[Trisha Paytas]

So we're trying to get one here. I mean, it's like, probably not like lucrative, but my mom, it would be so lucrative. She sells poshmark and stuff out of my garage. And I was like, honestly, we should just get like a little storefront and like put all that there. You know what I mean? Cuz people, she loves it and people buy so much of it. So I was like, we could have a little bit of my closet, but.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, new merch too in closet or something. Get you a little blonde idiot who sits here and goes, it would be so lucrative. I don't know anything. Okay. Like, I would love.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I would be there too. Like the dash, when they had the dash door and they were like, at the store, I'd be like working. I'd be like, yes. It'd be so cute.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

All right.

[Tana Mongeau]

I would. I would love that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Tana Mongeau]

And just imagine a day I'm like, bored. I'm like, I'm gonna go to Trisha's boutique.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. But I was worried about like theft. Like, don't people steal now? Everywhere for sure.

[Tana Mongeau]

But you, like, if I had a boutique and like an 18 year old girl came in and stole a tank top, I would be like, you know what, girl? Get yours.

[Trisha Paytas]

That I don't mind. Even the girls just, you Know, like, rating it, you know, in the middle of the day, I'm like, well, rate it if you want. Want. But I'm talking about, like, overnight, like, guys trying to make money off of it.

[Tana Mongeau]

Men shouldn't steal.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Sometimes I see the girls and, like, it's Sephora. And I do feel sad, and I don't think you should steal. But sometimes I'm like, I don't know. They need a perfume.

[Tana Mongeau]

I don't know. Yeah. Like, there's something about stealing from a major corporation that's so camp to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

I could never do it. The balls is crazy. Like, it's much in the middle day, I think it's just crazy to watch everyone else just kind of, like, watch them too. You're just like, okay.

[Tana Mongeau]

I remember working retail, I was like, you think I'm chasing this mother? I don't get paid enough. Like, literally, I would. I'd be like, sayonara. It's a cute top. Are you kidding?

[Trisha Paytas]

And sometimes. Sometimes girls just need their makeup. And it's expensive anyways. Not so expensive.

[Tana Mongeau]

I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Never stolen.

[Tana Mongeau]

But I don't think you should steal from small businesses. I don't think you should ever steal to a point where it's grand theft. But I. I don't know. I can imagine being like, a mom and not having the money.

[Trisha Paytas]

And, like, grocery stores always look away if someone's stealing. I'm just like, them. Let them steal. Honestly, food is crazy. The price of food is crazy. I really think we should all get free food in this. That's what.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's what I would do.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Excuse me.

[Tana Mongeau]

I didn't ask for this.

[Trisha Paytas]

Toilet paper, tampons. Food should be free. Yeah, but we don't promote it. But.

[Tana Mongeau]

And see, now here I am on the mic saying, I stand by this don't cut it.

[Trisha Paytas]

And it's like, well, you can leave some stuff, Jimmy. You're just.

[Tana Mongeau]

To your discretion. Go ahead.

[Trisha Paytas]

Let's wrap it.

[Tana Mongeau]

Wait.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Tana Mongeau]

Well, what the hell did we even talk about? Managers.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, proud.

[Tana Mongeau]

Congratulating all of the girlies out there on leaving men. I. That is the biggest takeaway of today's episode. If you are debating leaving a man or you just left somebody who's abusive, celebrate the new beginning.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I'm proud of you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Every time I look at you, it's so, like, surreal because I see old clips of you on TikTok all the time. I don't know. My TikTok is just your old clips from when you were so young.

[Tana Mongeau]

Press not interested. Diva.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I, like, actually engage. I go in the comments. I'm, like, looking. I'm like, don't you get enough?

[Tana Mongeau]

Aren't you tired? I love you.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's such a different person. And when I see you here, I was just like, oh, my God, you're so, like, grown and mature. It's, like, so crazy to see. I think we're the same age, and I have to remind myself that you're, like, literally 10 years younger and you, like, got it together. So I'm proud of you.

[Tana Mongeau]

You're my soul. And I love you. And thank you for just, I don't know, always having my back and being the best and having you. In this era of life, I. We say it all the time, but I truly mean it. I think we were like. Someone asked me in an interview the other day, like, and about you, and I was talking about just how, like, we were always so close. And I see now why people wanting to keep us apart because we truly are such a dynamic duo. And it just feels right to have you in this era, both of us, you know, same.

[Trisha Paytas]

Too powerful, too strong.

[Tana Mongeau]

And look at us go now.

[Trisha Paytas]

Look at us go.

[Tana Mongeau]

I just love you.

[Trisha Paytas]

I hope we have books at the same time. That's gonna be great.

[Tana Mongeau]

And babies. I think you're gonna have a fourth baby when I'm pregnant or something.

[Trisha Paytas]

Maybe I should keep the tubes open.

[Tana Mongeau]

Just in case, just to be pregnant at the same time.

[Trisha Paytas]

If I saw you get pregnant, if be praying, I would be so not envious. What is the word? Like, just, like, I need to do that too. Like, so influenced. I'd be like, me, Me too. That was the problem. TikTok. Everyone kept having babies and I was like, I need to also have another. Like, it just kind of is, like, influential.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's so funny because I really do think I'm like, a very strong woman emotionally, but when it comes to the idea of being pregnant, I just falter. So I feel so weak. I just don't believe in myself. And I appreciate you believing in me because it really is one of those things where it'd be such a blessing. And I would, like, love to have a baby that's like me and Moa. But when I think about it, I just, like, want to cry and make, like, not in a good way. Like, I'm so scared.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's scary. It's a scary thing. Well.

[Tana Mongeau]

Well, you're pregnant with the both of us right now. And Baby Houdini, we're so excited for you. I keep saying Houdini And I know I need to stop because, like, I'm almost attaching myself to this name that it, like, probably isn't going to be.

[Trisha Paytas]

I could go for any gender, too. It's a gender neutral.

[Tana Mongeau]

People are really thinking Ponyo, Oh, Ponyo.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right? Am I saying that right? Pono. Oh, Ponyo.

[Tana Mongeau]

Okay, so she's definitely not picking that one if she doesn't know what she's saying it. Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Japanese for fish. Is that the one?

[Tana Mongeau]

I think so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Can you look up Ponyo? Is that the little. Is a little animation?

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know Ponyo.

[Tana Mongeau]

I mean, not well, I never heard of this. No, Cyrus, that's what. That's why I know Ponyo.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Tana Mongeau]

Don't name it Ponyo. Never mind.

[Trisha Paytas]

Actually, baby Ponyo. Am I saying right? Baby Ponyo is so cute.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, that is cute. Aquamarine. It's a girl.

[Trisha Paytas]

I might. That's a strong contender. It's either Selena or Aquamarine. For a girl. Ponyo, maybe for.

[Tana Mongeau]

Do you have a strong contender for a boy, maybe Houdini.

[Trisha Paytas]

Ponyo.

[Tana Mongeau]

You're lying.

[Trisha Paytas]

I've been saying Houdini since my second Baby Houdini.

[Tana Mongeau]

Hated Hackman is just so like Aladdin.

[Trisha Paytas]

I like.

[Tana Mongeau]

Honestly, if you don't name your baby Houdini, like, I'll just take it. Like, I like that one for me.

[Trisha Paytas]

We'll see. Maybe I will use it. I. I've been saying Houdini for a while. I do love Houdini. Forest.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like Forest Gump.

[Trisha Paytas]

Forest Gump. That's also Holly. Holly's son's name is Forest. Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Okay, I'll let her.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because everyone liked Rainbow Birkin, too. And I was like, well, Rainbow. And look, I'm sure she's like such a down girl. She'd be like, no, take my. I kind of like that. I have some.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, is Rainbow Holly's baby's name? Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

She has Rainbow and Forest.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Oh, that's cute.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're very cute. I feel like she's down to, like, she would share. I don't mind either if someone started naming their kids Malibu Barbie and Elvis. I'm like, there's lay names. Take them.

[Tana Mongeau]

But they're. Oh, they're just so iconic. Malibu and Elvis are so iconic, though, that you have to. To like.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know.

[Tana Mongeau]

Think about like, the third one has to be that iconic as well. You don't want them to have like, oh, last child. Here's the last child name.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like Bob.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Imagine Malibu Elvis and Bob, though.

[Trisha Paytas]

Bob is crazy.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, kind of camp Like Malibu Elvis and Jimmy. Sorry, Jimmy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, Jimmy.

[Tana Mongeau]

I love Jimmy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Jimmy is. Yeah. But Jimmy would agree to. It's. It's a common name.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, my God. I got in trouble for something I said on this podcast. I'll tell you in the next one on Patreon. But we also too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you see Sia had a third baby named Summer Somersault.

[Tana Mongeau]

Somersault is the sickest name ever.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because Summer's like a cute name. So like Somersault.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. And that kind of gives like paper meat.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I love it. Okay.

[Tana Mongeau]

Somersault Wonder is so in. I would just forget. That's like a lot like Somersault Wonder. What's your name again? The middle names are crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't love a middle name. I named Malibu middle name Barbie. I kind of wish I just had her first name. Malibu Barbie. But I wish I would have just done that because Elvis doesn't have middle name. I think just an iconic Elvis Presley paid us.

[Tana Mongeau]

Hackman.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's just Elvis Peters. Hackman. Yeah. I didn't know Elvis Presley. Seemed like very thorough. Very niche specific.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

No way. Wait, that's crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Would have been crazy. I probably would have gotten, like, sued or something. I was scared for Malibu Barbie too. I'm like, can they sue me for any my baby mama Barbie? I don't know.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, my God. I've never thought about any of this.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I stuck with just Elvis. No nickname for her.

[Tana Mongeau]

And not. Not even Elvis. Priscilla Paytas Hoffman.

[Trisha Paytas]

No. Sorry to all the Priscillas out there. I really hate that name. So many people. This is why I'm not actually saying my name till I give birth. Because so many people will try and talk you out of it. When I said Elvis was definitely our second, I was like, what about Presley? What about Priscilla? I was like, both those names are basic and sad. I never want to name my kid that.

[Tana Mongeau]

And so because you almost have to come back at the people who are hating on your choice saying, I was like.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I got in trouble because there's so many Presley. There's so many Presley.

[Tana Mongeau]

I know a lot of presses. I know a lot of presses.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was. Was like guys and girls.

[Tana Mongeau]

Because it's a very universal name.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And also, like, that's not iconic. Elvis is iconic. Presley is like, basic. Sorry. Wow.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm so excited to see what you end up naming this baby. I just feel like it might end up being one of the choices that you haven't even voiced at all. Like, that you have some secrets. But I like that. And don't tell me because I. I can't live with myself. Tell me once every sober era.

[Trisha Paytas]

So I feel like, no.

[Tana Mongeau]

But I have a bad. Like, it's a really big running bit with my roommates of, like, gifts. Like, I always ruin surprises.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Bad at keeping secrets. Like, this just happened to me lot this past Christmas. Someone got Ashley a skims robe, and I walked in a room, and I was like, show me your new skims. I'm like, she hadn't opened it yet. And then, like, everyone was like, tana.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, yeah, the secret. Same with me. Don't tell me something you don't want to repeat.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, I'm like, I just. And I'll try my hardest. And it's almost because I'm thinking about not doing it that I. That happened one Christmas. Amari's ex boyfriend got. Or Amari got his ex boyfriend a ring. And before the ex boyfriend opened the ring, I go, did you open the ring? And everyone at Christmas, his face is dropped. And, like, I just had to, like, walk it off. Like, I'm bad.

[Trisha Paytas]

For the record, I love when you can ruin a surprise for me. If someone can tell me the surprise. My sister did tell me that Moses asked her about proposal ideas. So I kind of knew it was coming. We didn't know when, but I was telling you. It's so camp. He already shared here. Got the ring. I was like, okay, great. Love it. Like, I was glad to know.

[Tana Mongeau]

I don't like surprises either.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. So I didn't know when, really, but I knew it was coming.

[Tana Mongeau]

I told you. They give me, like, really bad anxiety, and I don't know why. Like, I almost started a fight with McCoy about that recently where he was, like, surprising me over something, and I was like, surprise you over with the New York Times crossword? Okay. He was just trying to tell me the end, and I didn't understand, and he was making it seem so much more than it was. And I, like, really was being a At it to the point that I had to, like, hang up and call him back in an hour because it's like, a big trigger of mine, surprises. I don't know why.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I feel, like, weirdly, like, drunk. Like, I mean, I need to eat pizza or something. I don't know what it is.

[Tana Mongeau]

Sounds good.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah, we have some chips, but I also might need to soak up something else in those chips.

[Tana Mongeau]

But, yeah, I'm down for whatever. Let's go over the Patreon. We're trying snacks today we're talking about being voyeurs and getting paid to be Voyers. Come call us at the Patreon. Come hang out.

[Trisha Paytas]

Good reminder, and I'm excited.

[Tana Mongeau]

We love you guys so much.

[Trisha Paytas]

Grapes. That look like testicles over there.

[Tana Mongeau]

I don't know how much I'm feeling those.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know if I can, being pregnant. What are they? Warhead grapes. You might have to do it.

[Tana Mongeau]

Well, they're. I don't know if they're veneer friendly, so that might be all. Devin.

[Trisha Paytas]

Devin. Just trying work. I love it. But also. Yeah, I don't know.

[Tana Mongeau]

They're probably veneer friendly, but not my veneer friendly.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right. Let me be careful.

[Tana Mongeau]

We love you guys, and thank you for calling, and just. We love you. Bye.