STAYING OUT OF DRAMA OFFICIALLY!!!...UNLESS? 👀

Summary

Not Loveline Podcast Summary

Episode: STAYING OUT OF DRAMA OFFICIALLY!!!...UNLESS? 👀
Hosts: Tana Mongeau & Trisha Paytas
Date: February 2, 2026

Episode Overview

On this episode of Not Loveline, Tana and Trisha dive into navigating drama, boundaries, and personal growth as internet personalities trying to “stay out of drama... officially – unless?” The conversation drifts between pop culture, internet trends, fashion faux pas, the realities of red carpet events, relationships (from anxious attachment to polyamory), social media honesty, and candid listener advice questions. As always, the tone is self-aware, chatty, introspective, and unfailingly funny, with the hosts weaving relatable anecdotes and self-deprecating humor throughout.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Staying Out of Drama…Kind Of

• Both hosts reflect on their current desire to avoid drama, acknowledging they're still attracted to it (02:07–02:33).
• Tana: “I swung the pendulum very far...I am completely drama free. I am Mother Nature. I want to be more chill. But...that tiny little baby version of her is still in there, you know?” (02:07)
• Trisha: “I'm definitely in my peace era, but I do have a podcast where all I do is talk about gossip.” (02:34)
• They discuss the cycle of gossip, being the center of internet attention, and the fatigue that comes with it.

2. Fashion, Style & Internet Aesthetics

• Discussion about current outfits (leg warmers, ballet flats), fashion mishaps, and online shopping fails (03:44–06:09).
• Tana shares her experience with rented diamonds and the anxiety over possibly losing them:
  “I can’t wait to return them. That's why I'm keeping them on my body because...I don’t want them to get lost in my abyss of a house” (06:32–07:04).
• Both reveal their reluctance to wear or keep expensive jewelry publicly or even at home due to anxiety about loss (08:32–09:48).

3. The Reality of Red Carpet Events & LA Culture

• Tana gives a behind-the-scenes look at attending Paris Hilton’s "Infinite Icon" premiere, describing the awkwardness, discomfort, and performativity (12:07–19:03).
• Memorable moment:
  “Movie premieres are so dystopian... everyone’s sitting in these things that they can’t sit in... when I’m with my friends, I’m in stained sweats... but here I can’t move in this dress I’m sewn into” (13:27).
• The hosts bond over red carpet insecurities, photographer demands, and trying to edit unflattering Getty Images.
  Tana: “The Getty holds no bounds. The Getty has zero forgiveness.” (15:51)
• Trisha admits to feeling overwhelmed and drained by big events, even as she’s grateful to attend (19:21–19:40).

4. Crafting, Creativity, & Internet Trends

• Lighthearted discussion on vision boards, crafts, and not being naturally “crafty” (25:29–27:12).
• Warm shout-out to Paige’s new podcast “Flopcast” and enthusiasm for new creators: “Podcasts are so fun. I tell everybody they should start podcasts.” (28:07, Trisha)
• On social media trends, especially content that combines storytelling with mundane tasks as a way to engage the ADHD generation (24:47).
  • Tana: “ADHD... dual stimulation helps. I’ll be better at cleaning if I’m also watching something.”

5. The Ebb and Flow of Podcasting & Online Content

• Tana considers re-engaging with podcasting in a “peaceful” way:
  “I want it to be peaceful. That’s on me… I’m making sure that whatever it is…” (29:58)
• Both note the challenges of creating consistently authentic online content, and the pressure to follow trends vs. following personal passions (57:04–57:18).

6. Listener Call 1: Anxious Attachment & Starting a Podcast (46:26)

• Danny asks for advice on coping with anxious attachment and podcast topic ideas.
• Tana:
  “With anxious attachment, you have to do the opposite of what you want to do... [when] my anxious attachment is telling me ‘he’s not surfing, he’s doing something else...’ I have to train my brain… Do the opposite. I’m not going to send the text. I’m going to believe him.” (48:12–49:06)
• Trisha: Suggests the benefit of spending time together, but recognizes the need for independence.
• Both recommend for new podcasts: Be authentic; let your passion lead; share your real opinions; and consistency matters.
  • “To make it in this industry... authenticity, you must lead with it first.” (56:18, Tana)
  • “I love when people just talk about their lives!” (59:25, Trisha)

7. Trends: Polyamory, Swinging, and Unusual Relationships

• Hosts discuss recent celebrity disclosures and viral stories about non-monogamous relationships (63:06+), expressing intrigue and confusion:
• Tana:
  “The hypocritical loyalty is, like, what I don’t understand, and, like, how they be loyal to him, but he doesn’t have to be loyal to them.” (65:55)
• Trisha: “I respect it, but I don’t get it. I literally can’t get it... I get fisting, but I don’t get polyamory.” (65:29)
• They speculate about celebrity motivations and imagine the logistics and dynamics of such arrangements.

8. Fitness, Body Image & Self-Deprecation

• Both talk candidly about their struggles with fitness routines, body image insecurities, and motivation (87:16–88:48).
• Tana: “A goal of mine is to be more fit this year... but it's hard, I have to fight demons to get myself to be consistent.”
• Playful banter about bad photos, TikTok fitness gadgets, and routines being the key to improvement.

9. Listener Call 2: Sober Living in Social Situations (78:19)

• Maile asks about handling sobriety while others party.
• Tana: “I had to hit a rock bottom to see what it did to me… Even if I'm missing out on a certain caliber of life, the cons outweigh the pros for me.” (80:29)
• The hosts agree: find fun in genuine connections and personal interests instead of alcohol; everyone's journey is different and self-awareness is key.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Tana: “I want it to be more chill... but that tiny little baby version of her is still in there, you know?” (02:07)
• Trisha: “We're internet girlies... we love the internet, consume the internet, and we have a lot to say about the internet.” (02:35)
• Tana: “Movie premieres are so dystopian... everyone’s sitting in these things they can’t sit in...” (13:27)
• Trisha: “You need to make this your own merch!” – on Tana’s “bleach and tone” catchphrase (53:08)
• Tana: “To make it in this industry... authenticity, you must lead with it first.” (56:18)
• Trisha: “I get fisting, but I don’t get polyamory.” (65:29)
• Tana: “If Makoa came to me and said he wanted another girlfriend, I’d literally raise hell.” (65:04)
• Tana: “My anxious attachment is telling me... he doesn't want to be with you...I have to retrain my brain.” (48:12–49:06)
• Trisha: “I love when people just talk about their lives... sometimes you just want to listen to someone else’s life.” (59:46)
• Tana: “You can’t write it all off to one photo. Who cares? It's just life.” (86:52)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 01:10 — The hosts discuss being constant “hot topics” and internet fatigue.
• 03:44 — Leg warmers, ballet flats, and Target fashion talk.
• 06:32 — Borrowed diamonds anxiety.
• 12:07 — Dystopian reality of movie premieres and the Grove experience.
• 15:51 — Unforgiving Getty Images and editing scandal.
• 19:21 — Why red carpets are exhausting, not glamorous.
• 24:47 — Internet trends: storytelling while multitasking.
• 28:43 — Shoutout to Paige and the “Flopcast.”
• 29:58 — Tana grapples with starting a new podcast.
• 46:26 — CALLER: Advice for anxious attachment & podcasting content.
• 48:12 — Tana’s practical tip: “Do the opposite” for anxiety in relationships.
• 56:18 — Tana’s rule: “Authenticity first” in social media.
• 63:06 — Opening up about polyamory, swinging, and celebrity relationships.
• 78:19 — CALLER: Staying sober when others are drinking.
• 80:29 — Tana’s reflection on sobriety and finding new definitions of fun.
• 87:16 — Fitness, body image, and getting into routines.

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Tone & Language

The episode is breezy, overshare-y, and frequently self-deprecating. Both Tana and Trisha balance vulnerability with exaggerated humor and a “just internet girlies talking” vibe. The language is casual, irreverent, and peppered with pop-culture references.

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For Listeners Who Haven’t Tuned In:

• This episode is a candid, often funny peek inside Tana and Trisha’s real lives—beyond the influencer façade.
• They cover fame fatigue, red carpet realities, boundaries with gossip/drama, creative passions, and the weirdness of celebrity romance trends.
• Their advice for listeners centers on authenticity, self-awareness, and being gentle with yourself as you grow—whether in podcasting, relationships, or life.
• If you love pop culture tea mixed with vulnerability and a healthy dose of “we’re figuring it all out,” you’ll find this episode rich, relatable, and delightfully chaotic.

Transcript

[Tana]

The. The hypocritical loyalty is, like, what I don't understand and, like, how they be.

[Trisha]

Loyal to him, but he doesn't have to be loyal to them.

[Tana]

Yeah. Because that's. If Mako really came to me and he was like, I want us to have another girlfriend, I'd be like, okay, fine. But, like, I'm going to. I'm going to have another. I wouldn't be like, okay, fine. Actually, I would literally raise hell. And everyone.

[Trisha]

You guys, we're cooking here today on Not Loveline. Welcome. Today we might answer a question. We will answer questions.

[Tana]

Yeah, I'm honestly ready.

[Trisha]

Yeah.

[Tana]

For some calls, I think, because I've just discussing other people. I'm at my maximum. I've hit my max.

[Trisha]

Yes, I agree. Well, no, I mean, for you. I feel like it really does feel like a stand. We did a Just Trish before this, and this whole week has been Tana, all the hot topics. And I'm like, I feel. And then we. We're doing, basically, it was like, Sunday, not Loveline. Monday, just Trish. Tuesday, not Loveline, Wednesday, just Trish. And then we're doing Not Loveline again on Friday. So I was just like, this whole week has just been talking, which I love, but I like, you were just saying when you sat down, you're like, it's a lot. Because it's like, you are everywhere, and it is like, the hottest topics. And so I was just like, all I'm doing is talking about you, which is, like, great. But I don't even think about that. So it's like, I feel like it's so. It's so weird.

[Tana]

I didn't even think about that, like, how much consuming me you have done across this.

[Trisha]

I love it.

[Tana]

No, but you're also probably like, holy, I want to see my kids.

[Trisha]

No, that's the opposite. I love it. I would do every hot topic about you. I would do everything. I just think, like, for you, sometimes I don't even share the thumbnail if you're in it. Because I'm like, she's gonna be like, damn obsessed. And I'm like, let me chill. But, like, you have been the hottest topic.

[Tana]

No, if anything, I'm like, I'm the most understanding when it comes to that. Cause it's like, if I do some that you and Oscar are gonna talk about, and the thumbnail's gonna work, like, go off. We all. We have people to feed over here.

[Trisha]

It's always in the thumbnail. It's so funny. I'm like, okay. Which, I mean, you are. Even at the end. I was talking about, obviously, the. The tea is stale by this point. But like, about the halter top and whatever. Did I use that right on. Yes. I loved. The tea is still. No, I don't think. Tea is steel. Right? That's not it. Tea is cold.

[Tana]

The tea is cold. I like. The tea is still.

[Trisha]

The tea is tired. The tea is. I like that one. The tea is tired. Are we going to do another podcast?

[Tana]

No, no. I hit my max. I think that. Oh, my God. I don't know. I feel like I swung the pendulum very far in my. Like, I am completely drama free. I am Mother Nature. I am. I want to. And it's true. I do want to. Like, my frontal lobe is developed. I want to be more chill. But also, I think that sometimes, like, something might incite a little something. And, like, cancel Tana. She's still, like, she. That tiny little baby version of her is still in there, you know?

[Trisha]

Of course. Yeah.

[Tana]

And what?

[Trisha]

We're Internet girlies, too. Like, we, like, love the Internet and consume the Internet. We have a lot to say about the Internet. Yes, it's hard. I'm the same way. I'm definitely in my peace era, but I do have a podcast where all I do is talk about gossip. You know what I mean? And it's.

[Tana]

I always do this thing. I've always done the thing too, where I'm like, oh, this will probably get a couple hundred thousand views. And like, for the girlies who think it's funny, they'll think it's funny. And then you make it to the mainframe, and then it's like, get me off the mainframe. But I also, like, duh.

[Trisha]

No, I feel the same way. I feel. I felt like that with the congress thing because I very much was like, oh, this is funny. This is cute. People who get it, get it. But then when it gets, like, to the wrong side, like the Theo Vons, or you're just like, oh, I don't know what he said, but, you know, just like the wrong side of Tik Tok or Twitter or whatever, you're just like. Like, let me not. Like, I backtracked all the way. Like, guys, I'm stupid. I'm dumb. Don't even listen to me like that. Like, and it is. It's the same way where you're like, this is not what I want to be. But.

[Tana]

And even if it's not hate, too, even if it's just that many people talking about you, I think I used to like eat that up like a bowl of Cheerios. I was like, the more eyes, the more conversation. Angry or not, I want it all. And now like I do. It's significantly much more enjoy just like being in my bubble, you know?

[Trisha]

Yeah.

[Tana]

Like just having. Staying in my bubble.

[Trisha]

Yeah. But it was, it was cute. It was funny. I love today that you're wearing ballet flats with a leg warmer. We're both wearing leg warmers, which is.

[Tana]

We never ever, never.

[Trisha]

And I. I looked at my reflection in Target, which by the way, I was like, I am in literal pajamas, but I've been wearing these all day and I'm so wearing them out to Target. I like looked in the mirror and I was like, crazy you. But you don't like shorts.

[Tana]

And I like it when it's like a T shirt more than when it's a short sleeve button up.

[Trisha]

Okay, good to know. I was going to get them. They're Victoria's Secret. And I was like ordering all the new Valentine's Victoria's Secrets. I was like, well, I'm going to get them. But like I love a shorts and a shirt. I just remember one time you're like, it does not. I don't love the way it looks on camera or something for you.

[Tana]

Yeah. When it's the short sleeve button up on camera I feel like I look like someone's like frumpy cousin. No, but this is cute. Like the.

[Trisha]

The T shirt was a little bedazzled. Well, I looked crazy. And then I saw the leg warmers and it did not help in my. No, I like it in my head. I think it cover. God, I really need it. Every time I see. Each time I was like I need a spray T but like I always think it covers my legs, but it's like the opposite. It kind of like it's.

[Tana]

Anyways, whatever. No, I think it's cute as.

[Trisha]

I love your inspo.

[Tana]

Well, I bought these ballet flats and they're too small for me so I actually have to either like give them to Isabella or like maybe put them on my depop or something. But I was like, let me wear my twos cuz I bought them for here cuz they're leopard. They match the little the chair but they are just not my size. So. So I'm curling toes for you today.

[Trisha]

I know. I tried to squeeze mine into some shoes. It wasn't working for me. So I went to Birkenstocks.

[Tana]

Yeah. And it's. I have. My feet are ever changing. I give up. I Don't have like a one shoe size.

[Trisha]

I know. I was actually with. These were Uggs. So these are like the Sabrina Carpenter ones she wore. And like it's just a leg warmer with pink Uggs. But the pink Uggs were squeezing my feet. I ordered like a size up. It was like squeezing my feet. It hurts so bad.

[Tana]

I also think that this is crazy because I saw these Uggs, like the ones that came with these egg warmers, and I wanted them so bad. I was trying to get them for us like and super fast.

[Trisha]

Yeah.

[Tana]

And you got them like someone reselling them. And I really wanted them. I couldn't find them. I put them on my Christmas list. No one found them. And I didn't know that it was just a leg warmer with a slipper. Literally.

[Trisha]

Yes, it's in. It's in the justice room. But it's literally just a regular pink Ugg.

[Tana]

Like I thought this was a part of the boots because they were more expensive than like Ugg is really out here saying here, $8 leg warmers with a slipper. Four more. But it's so cute.

[Trisha]

So I mean, yeah, it was. It gives more with the ugg, I suppose, but it is just giving leg warmer and ugg than it was. Scam. It's a little bit of a scam. And then I got burger socks cuz like my feet weren't fitting in it or whatever. But I love that you did the ballet look.

[Tana]

I know. I. That's just so funny cuz I really never dress like this. Like literally. Isabella was saying, I'm giving ballet core today. And I was like, I. I don't know much, but I know I'm not.

[Trisha]

A ballet core with bun and everything. Yeah, you're giving. Okay. And the diamond. So that's what we're gonna talk about. Right before you came in was the. Your diamonds that you wore last night too.

[Tana]

Yes.

[Trisha]

Are these the diamonds?

[Tana]

Yes.

[Trisha]

Because these are diamonds.

[Tana]

Yes. I haven't returned them yet, so it's.

[Trisha]

What?

[Tana]

And this one's like kind of. I'm definitely engagement fishing over here.

[Trisha]

A diamond.

[Tana]

Yes. And like what? It's. They're so nuts. But obviously, like what? We don't talk enough about the fact that like when celebrities are people.

[Trisha]

Oh my God.

[Tana]

No, they're beautiful. But I can't wait to return them. The pressure. That's why I'm keeping them on my body because I'm like, I don't even want them to get lost in my abyss of a house because I would hate to like Pay.

[Trisha]

It looks so sick, though. And this is all diamonds, too.

[Tana]

Yeah. Justine, my stylish, she'll, like, rent them for carpets so that if we want to do, like, a look, you know.

[Trisha]

And the earrings.

[Tana]

Yes, I love them.

[Trisha]

That's the crazy.

[Tana]

They're beautiful, but, like, I can't. I can't trust you enough. I cannot wait to give them back. Like, when does it happen?

[Trisha]

When does the exchange happen?

[Tana]

Tonight or tomorrow? Like, she'll come over and I'll give them back to her.

[Trisha]

Oh, my God.

[Tana]

And then we'll give them back to the brand. And the brand is just, you know, like.

[Trisha]

And did you shout out the brand or anything? How does it work? I have no idea how it works for, like, a red carpet with a stylist.

[Tana]

I feel like it's more like the brand just wants you to be, like, worn in it. And then maybe, like, Justine will post the details and stuff. Anytime she does bring me something, though, and she's like, this brand wants you to tag them, like, in the photo. I'll, like, do that. You know what I mean? Just whatever they want and stuff.

[Trisha]

Beautiful. It's all the same brand. The same brand.

[Tana]

I think it's two. I actually don't know the companies. I just. I get stressed. My little ring sizers on the back so they don't fall off. Wow.

[Trisha]

It's amazing. It looks so beautiful. Is that the size you want for your engagement ring if you got engaged ever? Nothing you're up to.

[Tana]

It's so real. I've been on a tangent to her.

[Trisha]

I'm like, it'll happen to everyone on the Internet too. You're like, stop it. And I'm like, I get it. Me just being like, no, I want yours. Let me see yours is. I love. See the clarity of that one is more.

[Tana]

But this is also just like, if I had this for a week, it would have Chick Fil a sauce in it.

[Trisha]

Well, you just put a little dish soap on it, and then it gets nice and sparkly.

[Tana]

It's beautiful.

[Trisha]

That one is beautiful. This one is really pretty.

[Tana]

I love the pink. I, like, literally was like, do I keep the pink for me and Trisha?

[Trisha]

Yeah. Oh, my God. But that pink, Tim, are really, really expensive. Because I wanted a pink diamond and those were, like, so hard to find.

[Tana]

Really.

[Trisha]

I got like, a knockoff when we did the Hawaii wedding because I wanted pink and it was just like, yeah, those diamonds were so expensive. I was like, let me just get.

[Tana]

Yeah, that's also like, the other thing that's like, so, like, I just. I lost a ring in my house. Like, that me and Isabella have matching that I got for us, and it's such a nice ring, and I'll find it. But, like, and. But just, like, the idea of the engagement ring. Do you ever get stressed, like, going out in public with it or, like, what if I lose this?

[Trisha]

Because, like, yeah, I never go out in public with it because I. For that reason, if. Because, like, I'll take it off when I, like, like, soap my hands or something like that. Even in the house, I, like, lose it and I freak out. I'm always just like, where did I put that? Like I said, yeah, like, it's. It's. It's really scary. I.

[Tana]

That's how I am.

[Trisha]

With the Van Cleef that we got. I really wanted to put it on before we came. And I can't find the necklace or the priest. I know. I want it so bad. It's somewhere. Do you remember? Maybe you don't remember. I was looking through photos trying to figure out I had a gold, like, Prada bag. I was carrying, like, purse. Do you have any recollection, anybody in here, of the carry on, what your carry on was?

[Tana]

I could probably find it in photos or a vlog.

[Trisha]

Oh, maybe in your vlog or something.

[Tana]

I love referencing vlog footage to be like, what the hell did I do with that top?

[Trisha]

I was, like, zooming in the back against security that we went through, and I was like, God, what other bag was it? Because I feel like I would have put it, but I got so many bags from Unwell. Like, we had so many bags within bags. And I'm like, gosh, I don't.

[Tana]

But you're not dropping a Van Cleef in the bottom of an Unwell tote bag.

[Trisha]

I am.

[Tana]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha]

This is why I don't have nice things, because that is definitely me. And they were so small. And I remember. I think you're right. I think I have to find the unwell topic. I think it was one, like, a canvas one.

[Tana]

Yeah.

[Trisha]

And I think my mom and I brought on the plane back, and I think I was dropping it down there. I think it would be there.

[Tana]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha]

You might be right. What if you find it? I think it's on top of the stairs, too. Okay, I'm gonna look.

[Tana]

We need to. I really. Because I love it. I love that necklace. Like, I wear that necklace every day and I think of you regardless.

[Trisha]

Well, and you look so good on you. And every time you hear Me, I love her necklace. And I'm like, oh, my God, I have that necklace.

[Tana]

That is so funny. I come and she's like, I love that necklace you have. We bought it out.

[Trisha]

I wanted to do what you told me and, like, stack all my stuff. So I was in a rush today, but I was like, let me stack, like, everything I have. Like, I have another, like, Van Cleef.

[Tana]

Is this the new Trinity from Moses?

[Trisha]

Yeah.

[Tana]

This is so cute.

[Trisha]

It's really cute.

[Tana]

Oh, with the diamonds, too.

[Trisha]

It said cute. This was rogue. I always send him. This is a Christmas item. I went. And he always goes a little rogue with it, but I love it. I always get him silver, and he always gives me gold. But I'm like, all right, we're gold.

[Tana]

Yeah. And honestly, mixing them, like, it's. It's a vibe I've been telling because you have so many beautiful pieces and stacking them just all together, it's like. It's a vibe.

[Trisha]

That's what I wanted to do for you.

[Tana]

Like, let me stack it.

[Trisha]

Okay. So. But, like.

[Tana]

And I love the black. Yeah.

[Trisha]

You know what? This was the first one I got. And at first I was like, I don't. It's not my favorite.

[Tana]

I want that.

[Trisha]

It is really cute.

[Tana]

Like, I might. I love it now and then maybe we'll match with that. I'll get that and we can try round two.

[Trisha]

Matching me trying to get the tea. The tea bracelet that you hated. I'm still like, I still want it and. But, like, no, like, tata story as a cat.

[Tana]

Don't do that.

[Trisha]

But last night, you were at Paris's Infinite icon premiere.

[Tana]

Yes, Ms. Paris Hilton. I wish you were there. It's actually so cute, though, Trisha, like, so many fans I met last night were just being so sweet to me and, like, where's Trisha? And it's so funny because, like, I always. I'm just like, she's with Aquaman.

[Trisha]

She's with Elvis.

[Tana]

Like, I'll just, like, say cute things and, like, whatever. But it's so cute how many people, like, come up and are just like, tell Trisha. Like, I said, I love you guys together so much. Like, I met so many people who were just, like, saying that to me last night.

[Trisha]

So it was really sweet.

[Tana]

And then I was like, I wish she was here.

[Trisha]

I wish I was, too. I feel like I. I've always missed Paris's stuff. I've been getting the invite since I met her at Pride, and the first one I got was, like, in December for our Kids are the same age. It was like her kid's birthday party at her house, and I wanted to go so bad, but I was on tour. I was on Trishmas and I couldn't go. And I was like, so sad. Then this one, I was like, oh, I really want to go, but, you know, I get a little anxiety. But then I saw everyone going. Everyone was wearing pink. Was pink the theme? I know you did.

[Tana]

Yeah, a touch of pink. But I also just feel like, I do love that Paris Hilton brings out the, like, avant garde. And everyone, like, people put on their rhinestones and they put on there. Same for you. Like, certain people just bring out the, like, full campiness, full serve. Like, no anxiety about it. Like, just like. Like being your best, most shiniest self. So I like, live for her stuff because you can just like, do whatever.

[Trisha]

Even her outfit too is just like full on. Princess.

[Tana]

Yes.

[Trisha]

I love this so much. So, okay, we had so many questions while we. Before. Now I'm gonna forget because I was like, we were talking about all of it. I agree. I want to hear this. You said. Okay, I don't know how to start from the beginning or in the middle. Because the one I was thinking of is you said you couldn't leave. Like, okay, here's the thing, right? You said, like, Kris Jenner was there. So is Kris Jenner is sitting. Not that you wanted to leave. I'm just saying, like, Kris Jenner's there, she's watching those.

[Tana]

And then she went somewhere.

[Trisha]

She's not watching the movie with you.

[Tana]

I don't know if she actually did watch the movie in full.

[Trisha]

Okay.

[Tana]

No, she might have. It would have been with us because everyone was in the same room. Like, Sofia Vergara was sitting behind me and everything was like a seating arrangement. So we all, like, get our seats, we sit down, and there were a lot of crazy.

[Trisha]

They're watching the whole thing because it's like, crazy to me. I don't go to many, but, like, the ones I have gone to, I. Two things. I always think I should leave, but maybe it's rude. And maybe now I'm like, see, this is why I like to learn things. Because I'm like, wait, maybe that is rude. Like, I like to leave because One, the car situation at the end.

[Tana]

Yes.

[Trisha]

Like, I just feel like just so many people. And so I always like to leave, like, anywhere, like 20 minutes early, 30 minutes early. Two, we talked about the uncomfortability of like, a dress.

[Tana]

Well, yeah, movie premieres. I have this whole, like, I'M not kidding you. Last night I got home and I opened my notes app in my phone and I wrote for like an hour and a half. Like, it was the first thing I did. I just sat and I wrote all my thoughts about just. And this is LA in general. There's nothing to do with Paris. The film was amazing. She is amazing. I will always say she's one of my favorite celebrities and favorite people. Like, truly, she is everything to me. But. But Paris aside, just. Movie premieres are so dystopian. Like, because every. Everyone's sitting in these things that they can't sit in that are, like, so uncomfortable. My heels were hurting so bad. Even just sitting, like, they were just that uncomfortable. And I. Like, when I'm watching a movie with my friends, I'm wearing, like, a big heather gray, like, kind of stained sweatsuit and like. Like little, like, slide sandals and like, maybe I smoked a little bit of a. Before I have no makeup on. Like, that's me in a movie theater. I'm shoveling food, like, and I'm just sitting there and I, like, can't move in this dress that I'm, like, sewn into. And I was just like, this. It. I don't know, like, just. I don't know. Being gone in Maui for a month too, just like. And then getting thrown right back into, like, a huge movie premiere. Really me. It was really big. It was at the Grove, too. And the Grove is already the pinnacle of LA madness. Like, like, just. Even just the Grove in general. Like, the. The people that. Like, you meet a lot of people and there's a lot of people, and people kind of go to the Grove looking for celebrities anyways. So, like, God, to put this massive movie premiere, like, in the Grove, I was like, that's such a small space.

[Trisha]

For a premiere too. Like, you know.

[Tana]

Yeah. Well, the carpet was outside of the theater and then, like, in the middle of the trolley. Yeah.

[Trisha]

Where the trolley is.

[Tana]

Yeah. Like, no trolley was moving that night.

[Trisha]

It was just all red carpet. So are you. And then parking. Are you being dropped off? Like, are you dropped off your location? Are you being shuttled over?

[Tana]

Brooke and I drove together and then we just walked. Like, we valed at the Grove. Yeah. Yeah.

[Trisha]

That's so wild.

[Tana]

I know. And, like, I don't know, it just. I. I don't. I don't know if it was me being in Maui for a month specifically. But, like, usually too, when I do red carpets, I don't really have any thoughts. I'm really used to it. I just kind of walk the red carpet and I have a good time. Like, I know that you're, like, kind of posing and making sure you look really good and, like. Like, everything is, like, done to you before so that you look, like, perfect on these, like, raw images and stuff. Like, I know that part of the, like, game, you know?

[Trisha]

I love that. Like, just knowing that, like, the Getty does not edit.

[Tana]

Yeah. The Getty holds no bounds. The Getty has no, zero forgiveness.

[Trisha]

Were you the one? Did you edit Getty?

[Tana]

Oh, I edited the. Out of a.

[Trisha]

Okay. I was like, who did it?

[Tana]

I edited the Ever living out of a Getty. That was red. Red dress gate. Okay.

[Trisha]

That's what it was. Okay.

[Tana]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha]

What was the controversy of it?

[Tana]

People were just.

[Trisha]

What happened?

[Tana]

No. Oh, no, no, no. I just think this was the first time in my life where I'm on the carpet and I, like, left my body and almost felt like I was, like, looking at it, like, from a different lens. Like, I was, like, above my body. Because I'm standing there, and it's people being like, tana, Tana, show us your ear, Tana. Santa, turn around. Not your ear, literally, but, like, you know what I mean? Like, just, like, give us the back. Like, do this, Tana. This, Tana. Tina. Tina, Tanya, do this. Like. And I was just like, this is so funny that we, like, come and we, like, perform, and then it's like, even just little intricacies. Like, have you ever had a photographer on a carpet, like, one of the yelling ones ask you for something? Like, can we get it from the side? And then you won't turn to. Like, you just don't turn to the side. And then the photographer will be like, fine, I'm not taking your photo. Then, like, have you ever had that happen?

[Trisha]

No, but I've only done two carpets, and there's been five photographers, so. No. What do you got in, like, one where there's, like, five. Like, wicked 50? No. Cause I always got there early, so I think I'm just, like, early. And, like, no one's there or no one cares. It's literally two people. My Getty image at Wicked is, like, one. Like, there's, like, one Getty image for both. You're so never.

[Tana]

But it's funny because that was the most viral image like, ever. Like, I could paint it. I could literally paint it. And you looked amazing.

[Trisha]

Thanks. So then what. So then you're just like. But you heard that. You hear them be like, fine, I don't want it. Well, It's.

[Tana]

Or more just like, show me the back. And then, like, I'll be like, I can't. Sorry. But also, I'm getting photos taken, so I, like. Like, the back of the dress, I was sewn into it. So I was like, I don't even wanna, like, deal with people being like, why? Oh, interesting zipper.

[Trisha]

Like that telling you to turn. I guess it's like Chapel Rowan, like, yells at them. She's like, don't be rude. You know, and then.

[Tana]

Yeah, because that's. I had a photographer that wasn't at this carpet, but it was at, like, another carpet I was doing. And they were asking me to show the side or show something, but the train of the dress was so long that I couldn't move it myself to move to the side, to then move back. And then I also know that all the Gettys would be of me, like, struggling to move this big dress. So I was like, oh, because you're.

[Trisha]

By yourself, you have. Your stylist doesn't come with you. I'm.

[Tana]

Now I have PR people come with me. But when I was like, PR list.

[Trisha]

Yeah.

[Tana]

Like, it's kind of like you hope. You just hope that someone there wants to help you. But. So I didn't do it. I didn't move to the side. And I remember the photographer was like, fine, I'm not taking your photo then. And, like, put the camera down. Like, super, like, rude. And I was like, I'm sorry.

[Trisha]

Like, I can't collapse it. Like, oh, I can't.

[Tana]

Yeah.

[Trisha]

I don't even like doing. I. I like to do the car because I want to get the Getty image. But, like, I don't like doing it because I feel so silly. I'm like. To me, I'm like, well, people are, like, shouting your name. It's totally different. But to me, I'm just like, no.

[Tana]

But I've had two where it's like, two people care.

[Trisha]

That's me.

[Tana]

And then someone else comes, and then they all. It's like. And then you feel like, about yourself. Or like, yeah.

[Trisha]

Which is so dumb because it's like, well, like, you shouldn't feel bad just because, like, they don't. Because it's always like, old guys, better photographers, they have no idea what the world is. You know what?

[Tana]

Yeah. And that's, like, the whole thing where it's, like, just so much of that, like, dystopian, like, people only want to talk to you if they feel like you're, like, famous enough to talk to you. And stuff like it was a lot.

[Trisha]

Of influencers last night, right?

[Tana]

Yes, I and like I had a great time last night. I'm not like saying I just more so was thinking like the concept of a red carpet and the concept of a movie premiere. What it's actually like is so interesting versus what just like people see on their phones. Like it's just like I don't know.

[Trisha]

It'S not as glamorous I feel like for people who like would be watching at home and never would do. I like to me personally I'll just like speak for myself I've only been to but like I I loved watching red carpets a kid and like going to them. They're just like I don't want to say awful because I am like thankful I got invited to Wicked. Well stressful.

[Tana]

Yeah, very stressful and very overwhelming and.

[Trisha]

Over stimulating and there's just like a lot happening and you're just like what? Like I'm tired. I'm like sick for days after because I'm just like that was so much like out of me.

[Tana]

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[Trisha]

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[Tana]

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[Trisha]

Like, I go with you.

[Tana]

He didn't go with me last night just because it was very girly. And I was like, me and Brooke will go like, I see. And it was. It was super for the girls and the gays. So I was like, let's just have a girls night, you know? Yeah. It was cute, but just. Yeah.

[Trisha]

What do you do after? You just go home or do you.

[Tana]

There was an after party, but I just didn't. I had no desire. I'm like a different person now. Yeah. Yeah. And I was so tired by the end of it. My feet hurt. I was like, I have no desire to party.

[Trisha]

And then when you get home, what do you. What's the first thing you do?

[Tana]

I take everything off right away. Yes. Like, yeah. Like, I made a tick tock about my night because so many, like, random little things happened and stuff. And like, like just so much where I was like, oh, my God. Holy. I can't believe all of this. I felt like I lived like 15 hours in like two hours.

[Trisha]

That's a lot. And then preparation. Did you get glamor? Do your own?

[Tana]

I did my own makeup.

[Trisha]

Wow.

[Tana]

Yeah.

[Trisha]

You look so pretty. You are very good at your makeup. I wish I could be that way.

[Tana]

It took me like five hours, though. It was like, just stressing. But yeah.

[Trisha]

Did you film it?

[Tana]

No. Yeah, because I was just tired. I was literally so tired. I was like, I need a gray cut crease. We got this because you used to do tutorials, right?

[Trisha]

YouTube makeup tutorials.

[Tana]

I want to get back into them.

[Trisha]

Yeah.

[Tana]

I like, because I love makeup. Like, I do.

[Trisha]

Yeah. If you do it, I feel like to me it's like eating a meal and not filming it feels like a waste.

[Tana]

Yes, it's true.

[Trisha]

Well, I'm eating.

[Tana]

They're hard to edit. And like, all the boy editors, like, don't get it. Editing makeup for boy editors is so. I see not it. But I did just tell one of my videographers today. I was like, let's set up a makeup tutorial soon. Like, because I do love doing it. It's so fun.

[Trisha]

Yeah. Jaclyn Hill does them on Tick Tock now. And they're like, I just have a 30 minute tutorial how do you get 30 minutes on tick tock?

[Tana]

Oh, does she actually have 30 minutes? Yeah, they didn't give me 30 minutes for a reason.

[Trisha]

No one. No one has 30 minutes. That's why I'm like, how did she get on there? I guess I think what I found out because I sometimes will upload videos from my phone to Tick Tock. I think if you upload, it can give you maybe unlimited because she had 30 minutes. Mine, I think the most I got was like 16 minutes off there.

[Tana]

Oh, that is crazy.

[Trisha]

I think inside of TikTok, you always film film inside of Tick Tock?

[Tana]

Not always, no. But I've just never tried to import anything more than 10 minutes.

[Trisha]

Yeah, I think that must be how she does it because it's like so high quality too. Like, whatever camera she's using looks super high quality. And I. I don't love makeup tours, but I miss the days of, like, who was I watching? Oh, do you know Brandon Flakes?

[Tana]

Brand flakes.

[Trisha]

Bran Flakes.

[Tana]

Yeah. Yes. I love him.

[Trisha]

I love him too.

[Tana]

He's hilarious. I love him.

[Trisha]

He's. He did a whole. I first heard about him on my Heirs of Church last year. He was up in a box.

[Tana]

The Juicy Couture. Yes. I'm your biggest fan.

[Trisha]

It was the wildest thing. There was these, like, nobody was in boxes but like one group of people. And it was just one boy, which was brand flags. And then like all these girls. So he was in like a white juicy jumpsuit. And then all the girls were in, like, pink. I'm like, what is happening? Giving, like, Britney Spears on one. I'm like, what is happening up there? And like, we're on a branch of producer Couture. And I was like, so, like, what?

[Tana]

Yeah, like, that's crazy.

[Trisha]

I want to be on this bridge up, like, how is Juicy Couture here? And then everyone, like, went crazy for him and I can't see and I don't know anything. I'm just like. And then now. But anyways, now I follow him. I love him. But he was. The whole point was that he was giving, like, what trends? Like, what? Because my Tick Tock is flopping, so I'm like listening to all the trends. My Tick Tocks.

[Tana]

What do you mean, Congresswoman?

[Trisha]

The one. Exactly. The one that you don't want to go viral.

[Tana]

Yeah, that's fair.

[Trisha]

No one cares about anything else. But he had said that people, like when you are doing something and telling a story because it like, fulfills like all the senses, sensory thing like, you know, it's like listening. Yeah. So he's like, if you're cleaning, if you're organizing while telling a story, if you're doing your makeup, if you're eating. And that makes sense because when you watch Tik Tok, someone's always having like a bowl of something there and they're not really eating to like take a bite and then cut it and then start to the next thing. And I was like, oh, that is so interesting. I guess people just like to watch people do stuff and listen.

[Tana]

Like. Yeah. And the adhd, that's what he was saying generation. Like, that's because I even like, I do that in my real life. I don't know how to explain it. Like, I'll be better at like cleaning the house if I'm also watching something. Or I'll like be better at like editing a video if someone's also there, like hanging out with me and talking to me or something. Like, I want like ADHD is like dual stimulation helps.

[Trisha]

So I wonder that's what he was saying. I think he was saying the dual. I. Yeah, I'm the opposite where it's like I have to focus, like texting. Can you text and talk?

[Tana]

Yes, kinda. I don't know. I get yelled at sometimes. Pay attention to me.

[Trisha]

I have to like go in the bathroom. Like I gotta use the bathroom. Just like text. Cuz there's just no way I can do it if people are like. We were doing vision boards over there for our Patreon, me and Moses. And like we both were just like silent because we're supposed to be doing a video, like talking and cutting out pictures and we're just like so focused on it.

[Tana]

Wait, they're so cute. No, I am.

[Trisha]

We totally should do them. They're so fun. They're my new thing. Oscar and I did one and then I had so much fun. I'm like Moses. I did one all pink with Moses.

[Tana]

Do one for the Loveline Patreon. I would love to.

[Trisha]

Okay, let's do it.

[Tana]

I would literally love.

[Trisha]

I mean, there's a bunch of magazines. We're gonna do it now.

[Tana]

There's something that I feel like if I'm making a vision board with the Manifestation Queen, like I'm about to put like crazy on there.

[Trisha]

Oh, it's so much fun. It's so much fun. I feel like it. Have you ever done a vision board?

[Tana]

No. Really? Yeah, I really and some of my friends have and like, just for some reason I never have, like whether I was out of town or just whatever. But I would love to.

[Trisha]

It's so fun. I love. I love just, like, gluing things down to anything, like a journal, anything, because it just feels so, like, you know?

[Tana]

And I love craftiness. I love, like, I love you. Yeah, I love to be crafty.

[Trisha]

What other crafts do you do?

[Tana]

Do it a lot, but, like, in Hawaii, I do. I have, like, canvases and paint and, like. Well, we were doing this little paint challenge that was super fun. Me, Ashley, and Ty were like, you pass around, like, one canvas, but everyone gets 10 minutes. So, like, I do 10. Like, 10. 10, 10, like, and we'd, like, paint. What did you guys make? Just, like, random. One was like, spongebob on a beach. Because, like, you could make it random, you know, Like, I could paint spongebob, and then you could paint an ice cream cone in his hand, and then, like, Like, I would paint, like, him on the Vegas strip, and then, like, you could.

[Trisha]

You know what I mean?

[Tana]

Yeah.

[Trisha]

Oh, I love that.

[Tana]

It's fun. I do anything. Anything crafty. I've been loving Color Me Mine. That's when my.

[Trisha]

You go there.

[Tana]

I just went last Saturday. This, like, past Saturday.

[Trisha]

It's coloring mine. The pottery or it's just, like, a sip and paint you.

[Tana]

Well, I don't sip, but juice.

[Trisha]

Whatever.

[Tana]

Yeah, I. Yeah, like, paint. You just paint a plate. Like, you're not making the plate. You, like, paint the plate plate, or, like, you're not making them up. You paint the mug, but then they fire it.

[Trisha]

Oh, yes. Yes.

[Tana]

Super cute and fun.

[Trisha]

Those are fun. I like those too. I'm not too crafty, but if it's, like, painting or something, I think I.

[Tana]

Had to let go of the notion that, like, you don't have to be great at everything, you know, to, like. Because I feel like sometimes I'd be like, oh, I don't want to, like, go to something like, Color Me Mine because, like, I'm gonna suck at it. And, like, even, like, Paige is, like, a professional painter. She's so hard. Oh, she loves you, by the way, so much.

[Trisha]

I just did a promo for her podcast this morning.

[Tana]

She. Because she was so nervous to ask you.

[Trisha]

That's. She was so funny. She's like, okay, I want to ask you, and if not, I'll just pay for a cameo. I was like, what? And that's all I saw. That was the first one I saw. And then I, like, opened it.

[Tana]

I was like, stop offering her money page. Like, just. Just ask her. That was so funny.

[Trisha]

It was so Sweet. Yeah. You know, I'm the biggest fan. I think last night, Loveline we talked about, too. I was like, I love. Yeah.

[Tana]

I'm so excited for her and, like, just proud of her. And she was so happy today because that you center the video.

[Trisha]

That's so funny. Well, good thing I made my makeup and hair done. I was like, all right, let me.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Trisha]

If I don't, I may still with someone, but I'd just be like, not cute.

[Tana]

No, you're always cute.

[Trisha]

I'm excited. I love no anything. I love anyone starting. I think podcasts are so fun. Like, I. I love them so much. And I, like, tell everybody they should start podcasts. Obviously, it's, like, not that easy to just start one. But, yeah, I love when people do it. Like, I always tell my sister, she started one.

[Tana]

She's like, her.

[Trisha]

My mom talks so much. I'm like, you should do a podcast, but it's just so cute. It's hard to get it started.

[Tana]

It is hard to get it started. It is like.

[Trisha]

And it's sets and ads and names and branding and logos and it's like, a whole thing. But, yeah, she did that.

[Tana]

And I'm just so even. Like, they have. I feel like Paige has, like, that, like, niche Internet funny humor. Like, she knows everything about every, like, meme and stuff. Like, I feel like they're really gonna hit a market that, you know, first.

[Trisha]

No, I texted her today. I was like, you're a little. And I'm not exaggerating. She's like, my favorite tiktoker. I watch every single. She does a lot of, like, talking to cameras, and I'm just. I listen everywhere to Mars. It's like, even if I have no idea what she's talking about, I'm like, like, love this.

[Tana]

Yes. Literally. She is that person where she'll be too smart for the room sometimes. I'm like, I have no clue what you're saying right now, but, like, go off.

[Trisha]

No, I love. I love all her little rants and tangents. I think they're so cute.

[Tana]

I'm so excited.

[Trisha]

We love Flopcast.

[Tana]

Yes. I'm so excited. Like, I feel like we're going to be guests on Flopcast at some point.

[Trisha]

Oh, are they doing guests?

[Tana]

I hope so.

[Trisha]

Okay. Cute.

[Tana]

I'm. I'm just. I'm loving it for them. It's inspiring me. I'm like, I want a podcast. I feel like.

[Trisha]

Are you going on everyone's podcast again?

[Tana]

Oh, literally. Even last night.

[Trisha]

Podcast last time, too. You're like, I don't know, maybe what a podcast. Like, we are podcasting.

[Tana]

No, no, no, no, no. Duh, duh, duh. And I love this so much, but I think like, even last night I posted like a 7 minute Tik Tok discussing like my whole night.

[Trisha]

Yeah.

[Tana]

And like one of the top comments was like, damn, she wants a podcast back. And I was like, I am just a long form yapper.

[Trisha]

Yes. You are good at it though too. Because, like, even when you come, we could sit here just like, we're talking non stop. Like we have to like start the show at some point. I'm like, we should start and just talk because we can is talk, talk, talk.

[Tana]

Yes. Like, we love to just yap chronically. And I'm like, lately I have been just like, I don't know, I'm starting to feel ready to.

[Trisha]

Yeah. Re.

[Tana]

Enter the podcast.

[Trisha]

Oh my gosh, that's so exciting.

[Tana]

But I just don't want it to. I want it to be peaceful. So I'm still, I'm working through. That's on me. That is on me. So I'm. I'm making sure that whatever it is.

[Trisha]

I wonder if there is any podcast that just revolves around like peace and like, like centering yourself and clarity. Or is it all.

[Tana]

Yeah, but then I'm going. Then I'm like cosplaying. You know what I mean? Like, it's like I. I know I can't be like, oh, the whole time. Like, like I'm very opinionated. I have a lot of opinions.

[Trisha]

There's something very powerful about an ohm, though. You know what I mean?

[Tana]

True.

[Trisha]

Live in 21 and people just threw tomatoes at me.

[Tana]

What do you mean? But like the paid ones. Yeah. Yeah.

[Trisha]

So you made money. It was like, I was just like. Because I was meditating, like, literally 15 hours a day. So I was like, well, I might as well take live because I had to make money somehow. And I was just like, how am I gonna do this? So I was like, I'll just go on to live. And you know, you're closed, you're in the zone, so you don't know. And then afterwards I saw like all the tomatoes. But you do make that bag.

[Tana]

Yeah. That's so funny to be like, I'm gonna throw this tomato at this live. But, like, you're literally paying the person.

[Trisha]

About Tick tock live. Were you ever a tick tock liver?

[Tana]

No. Like, not at all.

[Trisha]

It makes so much. Yeah.

[Tana]

Amari's.

[Trisha]

Yes.

[Tana]

If someone's like, account says Live pro.

[Trisha]

It'D be someone with like 12, 000 followers. 25000 followers. If it says Live Pro, they're making a hundred grand a month on that.

[Tana]

If their thing says Live Pro, they're making a hundred grand a month online. I feel like in the era where some people were panhandling and I was kind of coming at them.

[Trisha]

Yeah. I was like, okay, you're not being messy. You're like back in the day, Back.

[Tana]

In the day when some people were panhandling and I was coming at this, I didn't, I definitely didn't realize how much more work goes into it. Like, even after Amari like took the meetings and we just started to see people like Terry Jo and like, just different stuff. Like, I do understand it's a hustle and it's hard work. Like, I think that it's the battling and stuff. Especially. I think it's one thing to like beg, like, you know, but like if you're like battling and you're earning your keep and stuff, like, let's go guys. Let's go guys.

[Trisha]

Let's go guys.

[Tana]

Like, this is our team. Like good for those people for like genuinely being so hard working. I don't think I could do it. I really don't. Like, they are dedicating a of their time to it and to like.

[Trisha]

Yeah.

[Tana]

And like to keep up the energy. Like after four hours of a live, I would be like, can we nap?

[Trisha]

Yeah, I try to do the live. I think I'd go live for like an hour. It was when the NPC trend was a big thing.

[Tana]

I tried that one time.

[Trisha]

Did you?

[Tana]

So good.

[Trisha]

How long did you last?

[Tana]

Four minutes.

[Trisha]

Yeah, I didn't mind anything for like 45 minutes. And it's like at some point you actually become a little like halluc. You like hallucinate a little bit. You're just like, what is happening?

[Tana]

I also, even with this, like, I always just. I'm, I'm. I like, I try to be present. Like, even when you and I are love lining. I'll be like, just, I'm talking to Trisha.

[Trisha]

Yeah.

[Tana]

And then it'll come out. And I'm like, that was for the Internet. Yes. And but like with live too, like after a while you just start answering things that maybe you wouldn't answer normally.

[Trisha]

That's true.

[Tana]

You're. I don't know, like the PR kind of wears off. Yes, like, exactly. Like, it's like, not necessarily that my answers aren't true or anything, but like, I think that like, like, oh, Maybe I just shouldn't talk about that. Maybe I shouldn't answer my opinion on this person's drama. But then now I'm live, and I just did, like. Yeah.

[Trisha]

You know, that part is the hard part of live. That's why I don't, like, live anything, because there's like. Like, everything can be, like, up in the air.

[Tana]

Yeah.

[Trisha]

Can you do your best NPC to your camera? Oh, my.

[Tana]

Is npc. Is NPC like.

[Trisha]

Yeah. Gang. Gang. Oh, popcorn. Yeah.

[Tana]

What?

[Trisha]

Oh.

[Tana]

Ice cream.

[Trisha]

So good morning.

[Tana]

The ice cream's so good. Gang, Gang. Ice cream. So good. Good. Ice cream so good. I just remember ice cream. So good.

[Trisha]

Oh, yeah.

[Tana]

Yes, yes. And she had all the movements.

[Trisha]

Yes.

[Tana]

Oh, and yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Give me yours.

[Trisha]

A queen. And then she would be like, the flat iron with the popcorn. You remember they put the little kernels and they'd be. And you're like, what? Yes. What was happening? Why were they doing that? I mean, I love it, but, like, the popcorn would pop on the straightener, and it was like, this whole thing.

[Tana]

I still follow her, and I'll get her Instagram post sometimes, and they'll be like, this is Pinky Dolls. Tea Team speaking. Pinky Doll. Yeah, that's right.

[Trisha]

What is she doing? Is she still doing it?

[Tana]

I don't. Music, too.

[Trisha]

She did make music with Fashion Nova. Yes.

[Tana]

And honestly, it was kind of a bop. Ice cream.

[Trisha]

So good.

[Tana]

Like, on a beat.

[Trisha]

Like, that's so smart.

[Tana]

Oh, my God. I will say last night, because Paris's whole movie is about how music saved her life and about almost kind of like, how the early 2000s robbed her ability to be able to get back into music. Like, just that she talks about the tape, and she talks about the paparazzi being awful and just how people wanted her to be in one box and how, like, she is not going to be in one box. She wants to do everything, and that's who she is. She talks about, like, her adhd so many, like, amazing things, but it all the overarching theme was about how music saved her life and about how now she wants to be back in it, and she is back in it.

[Trisha]

And is she making new music?

[Tana]

Yes. She made an album that Sia wrote on and produced. And, like, Sia was there and, like, just all these, like, that's her girl. And, like, Sia helped her so much, and it was so inspiring to me because, like, obviously, Stars Are Blind was playing in different things, and I was like, oh, my God, I want to make a song With Trisha.

[Trisha]

That should be our in blueprint. Yeah.

[Tana]

100 stars.

[Trisha]

Was that after. Before all the, I guess, scandal, I guess you'd call it, like, sex tape.

[Tana]

That was back in. I don't know. Actually, it's after. Yeah.

[Trisha]

So I feel like. Like I don't know what her. Because I know Pam hates when people don't watch her sleep. So I don't know what her relationship is it with it, but I feel like that's what I don't want to say made her. But that's what made me know her is like. And that's why, like, I idolize. And I know, like, Paris and Pam, they are not about it. Like, they did not want it. But when I was a kid, I thought it was, like, very glamorous. I was like, oh, I need to make a sex tape. And then I'll like, yeah, famous. Because it was back in the day.

[Tana]

It is wild that. That's like. Because I even remember thinking, even in As I was like, 18, 19, I was like, do I make a sex tape? Like.

[Trisha]

Like, wow.

[Tana]

You know what I mean? I'm like, same.

[Trisha]

So what, like, what stopped me was. Is like, I didn't know how to, like, record it. What stopped you? Because you were like, filming and you were.

[Tana]

That's true. I definitely knew how to record it. I've definitely made some in my lifetime.

[Trisha]

I had no idea. I was like, how do you get a camcorder? I mean, I was 18 at a different time than you were 18.

[Tana]

I don't know. It's. It's just irreversible. And even Mako and I joke about it sometimes. Like, it's like, there's still a little part of me that like. Like, if for some reason, some, like, sickening VHS tape of me and Mako dropped, like, I wouldn't be like, VHS is crazy. Like, just make it all vintage and cute, but, like, also, I'm sucking. Like, I don't know.

[Trisha]

You like the idea.

[Tana]

I mean, but I. I don't think.

[Trisha]

I will if you are, like, in control of it and you're like, I love this. I own this. Like, this is us in our prime. Like, yeah, I think it's like, there's nothing wrong with it.

[Tana]

I. And like, making them for us is one thing, but, like, for the world. I don't know.

[Trisha]

I think sometimes it's.

[Tana]

It's fun to have those little things where it's like, that'd be fun and you think about it. But, like, I probably.

[Trisha]

Yeah, like you said, it is out There forever. But some people are just very open to with their bodies. I think it's like, if it's for you, it's for you, you know?

[Tana]

That's true. I just. I don't know. I. I change my mind too often as a human too.

[Trisha]

Yeah. Do you tattoos?

[Tana]

I do and like that. I've lasered some off, like.

[Trisha]

Oh, you have? Which ones did you laser off?

[Tana]

I started lasering off young as on my. Because I didn't want to be 80 and doggy.

[Trisha]

And that's kind of camp though, if you're 80 and you're like, young.

[Tana]

You know what? I guess that's kind of why I stopped laser.

[Trisha]

It's like half off.

[Tana]

It is half off. It looks like young.

[Trisha]

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[Tana]

Yes. Oh, my God. I just want to see Alex Morin live. That's what I'm excited about.

[Trisha]

Yeah. Gonna get the Grammy and then he's gonna go on tour. I'm excited to see Demi Lovato with Adela. I am excited to see my Chemical Rumors. I'm excited to see us.

[Tana]

Yes. I'm very excited to see us. That's my favorite.

[Trisha]

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[Trisha]

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[Tana]

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[Trisha]

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[Tana]

We love you, Seatgeek.

[Trisha]

There's a TikTok trend going around where it's like, how my wife sees me. I think Leanne V did it with Don Benjamin, and it's like. It's like a picture of them just, like, cute. And then it's like, when she's hungry, it's like him and a chef. When she's scared of the dark, it's like him in a security outfit and she keeps switching out of it. That's literally how I feel with, like, Moses.

[Tana]

I'm just, like, so real.

[Trisha]

So, like, it just. I don't know what we're talking about before the break, but.

[Tana]

No, me either. No, but I liked. I liked your tangent. I feel the same way with Makoa. Like, him being sick this past, like, week really made me realize. Just. I think we talked about this, but, like, he's feeling better finally, which is good. Today was his first day. He's been like, like, working and, like, on a different new thing. And, like, I'm really excited for him. He, like, well, I mean, I. I guess I can because it's coming, like, really soon. But, like, Makoa is starting a YouTube channel, which is, like, I'm so happy for him and so proud of him. And I've been telling him to do this, but he's very like, I don't want to use you. And I'm like, I know you're not.

[Trisha]

So you can, like, like, just so many years later.

[Tana]

Yes, literally. And like, like, just. And I think he never thought he very, very much imposter. Like, I think he never thought that people would care in this way about his life and, like, that he could monetize it. And, like, even he, like, he got, like, a check from the Tik Tok creator fund from, like, the three videos that, like, he had posted. And he was like, it just feels like robbery. I was like, you're not taking the money from the people who watched it. Like, this is Tik Tok paying.

[Trisha]

Right? Right, Right?

[Tana]

Yeah, yeah. Like, it. Like, it's okay, honey. Like, it's okay. Like, get that check. You deserve it. Like, you. You put thought into these videos and it's okay.

[Trisha]

Social media does feel like that, though. I remember, like, our first, like, YouTube checks or my first YouTube checks. I remember being like, this is. I would, like, tell everyone. It's so crazy. It is $4,000, like, for posting four videos. Like, it does feels insane.

[Tana]

You're so right. It's like fake money. And I think he's always, like, worked very hard for his money. So he's like, what the Is this? Like, what do you mean? But yeah, he was, like, having a meeting today, and I was, like, just super happy for him.

[Trisha]

Can you say what it's like, up the genre? Is he vlogging?

[Tana]

Yeah, I think he's actually kind of trying a bunch of stuff. Like, we started this little series where he's teaching me to do different things, like golfing and fishing. We're going to do, like, changing a tire next.

[Trisha]

Did you already film some of this?

[Tana]

We filmed golfing and fishing and golfing. It was so fun. Like, I get discouraged. But, like, in the end, I was like, wait, I love.

[Trisha]

Is he a golfer?

[Tana]

Yeah. He, like, mo is, like, very Jack of all trades type of person, too.

[Trisha]

Does a little everything.

[Tana]

Yeah, like, just a little. And I was like, that's so cool, too. Like, you could literally do a different video doing a different thing that you can do, like, all the time. And, like, that's so fun. But then today he was like, I want to review A$AP Rocky's new album. I was like, that almost reminded me of, like, Moses with the tin fish. Because it was, like, the first thing where I was like, I don't understand this. Yes, but, like, but go do it. But go off. Like, it's cool that he's, like, seeing him become passionate about creating.

[Trisha]

And can I tell you, that's, like, the coolest thing. Like, it used to give me the ick when, like, Moses would do tiktoks. But, like, I love it now. He's into the. Have you seen the Chinese baddies on TikTok?

[Tana]

No.

[Trisha]

Where you, like, get up and you're supposed to make this, like, warm cider tea. And he's been doing it every morning, and he, like, loves it. And he wants to make like, this. Anyways, he's really into it. And so, like, now I'm really into it. Cause all of a sudden, like, he was so not sick, but he was getting sick yesterday and this morning he had, like, a scratchy throat. He wasn't feeling well. He made this, like, Chinese medicine tea that he finds on TikTok. It's a whole, like, trend now. It's like, how to be a Chinese baddie. And he was, like, instantly better. Hi.

[Tana]

Moses is here.

[Trisha]

I swear, we had to cry the whole time. In one minute, you're here.

[Tana]

What's in the tea?

[Trisha]

What's in the tea?

[Tana]

Apples, cinnamon, ginger, goji berries. I want some now.

[Trisha]

So good. Oh, yeah, it probably make you cuz you were feeling something white. It like heals everything.

[Tana]

Yeah, it's so good.

[Trisha]

Oh my gosh. Bye, Chinese baddie. Wait, is there Chinese Daddy. That's a good one. Is our Chinese New Year stuff over there? The little piece puffs or we took them up. Okay. We went to target all these Chinese New Year stuff. We are big Chinese New Year people.

[Tana]

I was just somewhere. 17 HomeGoods is like Chinese New Year out the one over here.

[Trisha]

Do we know you're Chinese zodiac? And I always ask you this.

[Tana]

Wait, I actually don't.

[Trisha]

What year were you born?

[Tana]

1998.

[Trisha]

It goes by year. Yes. What are you. Are you 98 too? Yeah.

[Tana]

Oh, so we're probably the same tiger. Tiger.

[Trisha]

Oh, that's right. You're mal. So Malibu. The reason we have the tiger upstairs is Malibu. It's every 12 years, so years past 20. 22 too. It's every 12 years, SO. But it's year of the worst, which is good for everybody. And I just. I love a Chinese zodiac. And so we were at the target stand. They had a bunch of cool Chinese New Year's. I just love it. I love a fresh start always. So like since my New Year, like it always starts a little late. So I go by the Chinese New Year. Yeah.

[Tana]

Wait.

[Trisha]

I love about the YouTube, about Nicole's YouTube.

[Tana]

I know. I'm really excited for him. And I just like, I even. I do just love seeing Moses find the things that he likes and stuff. And I've always told Nicole, like, you don't have to like do ever do social media if you never want to. You know what I mean? Like, don't. And we finally got to this place where like he's. He wants to and he's like coming up with ideas and stuff. And like, it's just. I love that it's been really cool. So I'm super happy for him.

[Trisha]

It's just fun to be creative. I feel like everyone is creative, you know, And I think it's like a fun. Social media is fun for that because anything goes, anything's possible. Oh, here it is. These. These things, the Chinese puffs. I think they're good luck or what? But I think they're tasty. I just wanted one. I just wanted something to eat. I was like, where'd it go? Thank you so much. Oh, look how cute these are.

[Tana]

Wait o. I want to try chocolate.

[Trisha]

These were. You opened them just now so it doesn't make noise.

[Tana]

You know that I drove here. Well, I didn't drive all the Way here. But once we got into your neighborhood, I, like, drove the car up to your house, and it's like, oh, my God, I've been practicing. I'm getting better. But it's so, so hard. I'm like, just even that this is a perfect example, like, not opening this correctly. Like, you really have to lock in.

[Trisha]

Yeah. You know, you have to focus. For sure.

[Tana]

It's like. And I just have this whole tangent about how I think that the steering wheel should be in the middle of the car. I think we should drive in the. From the middle. Okay.

[Trisha]

That kind of makes sense. But. Right. I guess if you're, like, turning lanes and stuff like that, that's a good idea.

[Tana]

I'll be looking at the stop sign, and I'm like, that's so far from me. Like, I'm in the driver's side, and the stop sign is, like, all the way over there. And I'm, like, trying to, like, like, oh, that's interesting.

[Trisha]

I wonder why they did put it. Because, like, in my head, I'm like, oh, it just, like, would feel weird, but I guess I'm so used to it. But I guess you're right, because why would they put it so far over.

[Tana]

On one side and, like, just spacing, like, trying to figure out if you're in the lines and stuff. I'm doing it, though. It's been great. But. Hi. Okay. Okay, we're back. I was talking off camera, and then poor Jimmy. Like, Jimmy, really? The amount of times where, like, Trisha and I will stop, like, like, say some stuff that could never obviously go online. And then we're like, okay, Jimmy, we're back.

[Trisha]

Or he's the only one that gets to hear it.

[Tana]

He does get a lot of tea. We love you, Jimmy. So we're taking a call.

[Trisha]

We're taking a call. Wow.

[Tana]

Yes. I'm so big for us, so major.

[Trisha]

On that love line.

[Tana]

Yes. And I'm so excited.

[Trisha]

Okay.

[Caller]

Hi, Tana and Trish. My name is Danny, and my boyfriend Jordan and I have been huge fans for almost 10 years. We love you guys so much. Hashtag Trish for prez and hashtag Tana for vp. I have two quick questions. So my first one is, we've almost been together for about a year, and I struggle from anxious attachment from a really toxic past. So sometimes I get anxious or even upset when he really hasn't done anything wrong. What advice do you think? You have to work through that in a really healthy way. And second question is, we're graduating in May from college stoke. And we want to start a podcast with a fun type of unfiltered vibe. Like, you guys, what topics would you recommend for new hosts like us? We love you so much. Thank you.

[Trisha]

That's so crazy. We just said, like, everyone just started podcast. Were we doing that off camera?

[Tana]

Yeah, we were having a whole, like, off camera conversation about starting podcasts.

[Trisha]

Were we? Oh, that is so funny. Because I literally tell everyone to start a podcast. I'm literally start a podcast.

[Tana]

Yes, I am the same way. Because it's just like, it's so fun and it can be so cathartic and just like, it really. Even with Paige starting her new one, Like, Trevi and I were talking to her the other day, and we were like, paige, like, you're not realizing this right now because you're, like, present, but, like, this is going to change your whole life. Like, I feel like starting a podcast can change your whole life, and that's, like, so beautiful in that way. So it's cool that you want to do that. Oh, my. So podcast and anxious attachment. It sounds like a Tuesday for me.

[Trisha]

Literally.

[Tana]

Are you. Do you know if you're anxious or avoidant attachment? Do you know?

[Trisha]

Oh, I don't know what any of them mean.

[Tana]

Oh, my gosh. You would actually have a very, like, like, fun time. Not fun time, but, like. Like, it's interesting because everyone is one or the other.

[Trisha]

You know, explain what one. What they are. Like, briefly.

[Tana]

Yeah, I might be a little bad at this. I feel like avoidance more common in men, in my opinion. But, like, oh, my God, I'm starting to like you. Like, I'm gonna run away. Like, I can't handle this emotion. Like, this is too much. So, like, I'm going to. Okay, that's not me.

[Trisha]

What's the other one?

[Tana]

Anxious. That's what I am.

[Trisha]

Okay.

[Tana]

Where it's like. Like, Nicole could, like, leave the house for an hour, and I'm kind of like, in the beginning, I'm, like, checking his location. I'm assuming the worst. I'm like, I feel like, yeah, every girl is.

[Trisha]

Is there any girls that are like, run.

[Tana]

I know some girls who are a. Paige is pretty avoidant attachment when it comes to her love life. Not, like, friendships and stuff, but, like, I definitely, like, it definitely depends on the person. I think that statistically, anxious is more common in women and avoidant is more common in men, but there's definitely both. And it's very interesting. And so anxious. But I feel bad for avoidance, too, because I think that they're misunderstood. Like, people will be like, that person's just ghosting that person and they're awful, but it's like they're running from their own emotions. And that's a prison within itself, too.

[Trisha]

That's where you can never fully get connected. Yes.

[Tana]

And, like, let yourself just live without being, like, so scared of the what if that you literally run away from it.

[Trisha]

You know what I mean?

[Tana]

So I think they both really suck. I'm super anxious. I had to work through a lot of that with Mokoa, where, like. Like, my advice to you honestly, is do the opposite thing. I just think with anxious attachment, it's like, you have to do the exact opposite of what you want to do. Like, when McCullough would, like, like, he's. For me, my anxious attachment thing that was really hard for me is like, he'll go surf for two hours and he's like, in the water and he can't text and he told me he's going to surf. I know that he's surfing, but my anxious attachment is telling me, like, he's not surfing, he's doing something else and he doesn't want to be with you and he's ignoring you and he's whatever. And I. I feel like old me would want to send 50 texts or, like, ruminate about this thing and like, it really was about actively choosing to do the opposite. I'm not going to send the text. I'm going to believe him. And that is retraining your brain. Every 10 seconds, I have to be like, no, I'm going to believe him. I'm going to believe him. Like, it's, it's so much retraining your brain. Actively you think something's going to happen.

[Trisha]

To him or you think he's, like, lying about where he is.

[Tana]

All the things I think anxious attachment really, like, would just tell my brain all of the toxic things, you know what I mean? Where it was just like, he doesn't like you anymore. He doesn't want to be with you. He's avoiding you. He's just a name. A name. A negative scenario if I'm not. If he's not right in front of my face, you know?

[Trisha]

Yeah. I think that's why I feel at peace. I'm like, trisha, you're at peace. And I think it's like, Moses is always home and I love it. Yeah. Because I think if he were to leave, even if he were to leave far, like, he used to live in Inkwood and he used to go back and Forth between here and Inglewood, like, just to get stuff, because he still has a place there or whatever, like, his, like, building. So he has to go back and forth. And, like, when he used to go all the time, I'd be like, what if something happened in a car accident? Like, what happened down there? You know? I mean, I gotta have that. So knowing he's, like, at home most of the time, and I am, too, but I know when I travel, he always gets, like, worried, too, when he, like, doesn't hear from me. So it's like, all right, you know? Yeah, we both have that same. But yeah, I guess. Was he asking this caller what to do about it or, like.

[Tana]

Yeah, I guess he's in something healthy now, and he just wants to, like, approach it and, like, how to deal with it. Because anxious attachment can be just a prison. And I feel for him, you know, especially because, like, you can be anxious attachment and be crazy and, like, the relationship. I've done that a million times, you know, but, like, when you really care about someone and it's healthy, it's about, like, actively retraining your brain. I feel, like, almost.

[Trisha]

Which is hard. Maybe just have him stay at home.

[Tana]

Yeah. Honestly, hold him captive. That's made of aoa. Honestly, like, just stay home, please. I will say that, like, I definitely do, like, prioritize just spending a lot more time together, too, but I also understand that that's feeding the be. And sometimes I have to go be independent and have to let him go be independent, and I have to talk myself through the anxiety that I'm almost having because we're separated, you know, and, yeah, I would say just do the exact opposite of what you want to do and try to retrain your brain in those situations. And as an anxious attachment girly who has healed maybe as much as I can.

[Trisha]

You're. Yeah, I was always healing.

[Tana]

Yeah, exactly. It's like. Like, we're always on this journey, but, like, you know, I've. I've definitely made strides. I'm not, like, gonna send him 50 texts or call him 50 times. Like, he'll get back to me even. The other day, we were in Hawaii, and I woke up and he was gone. And his location was on the other side of the island. The other side of the island. And I. What my brain immediately made me do, which I think is so crazy because Nicole isn't leaving me. He loves me so much. But I've had this happen enough times. Times that I immediately got up and looked for his, like, stuff around the room. To be like, did he leave? Because I've been through that so many times. Where like, I've been left or I've had people leave me and stuff. Moses, you're a king.

[Trisha]

Oh, my gosh. Oh, my God. Here, let me move this.

[Tana]

He brought us the Chinese baddie tea.

[Trisha]

So quiet. Oh, my God.

[Tana]

I even hear, wow, you're lying. Let me get a little video.

[Trisha]

Oh, my God. This is so cute. Yeah.

[Tana]

This is so sweet.

[Trisha]

Tray. Wow.

[Tana]

Everyone's filming. It's so cute.

[Trisha]

Moses. Yeah, There it is.

[Tana]

Thank you. I feel like. Thank you.

[Trisha]

This is the magic tea. This is the magic medicine tea. Oh, my gosh.

[Tana]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha]

Oh, my gosh. Wow.

[Tana]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha]

Oh, there it is. Oh, yeah. See what's inside of it? Wait, I get a reaction. First reaction on camera to the Chinese.

[Tana]

I'm moving in. Oh, my God. And it smells so good. You know what it smells like when you.

[Trisha]

Yeah.

[Tana]

It smells like when you go to a five star spa and you get a massage after and they like bring you a tea.

[Trisha]

This is the Chinese baddie tea. And it's so good. It's like natural. So it like goes living.

[Tana]

I'm like a like P word when it comes to hot drinks.

[Trisha]

Really? Yeah.

[Tana]

This is.

[Trisha]

It'll help your, like, skin your gut. Like, it just feels. He's been doing this every morning for the past, like, week maybe Me too.

[Tana]

Anything apple, cinnamony. Tell me why the 2016 itch right now. I like, want to go get balloon lips. Did you just get your lips done? Yes. And I got the most like, like, nice minimal amount. And like, I look natur. As natural as I can look, I think. Like, I'm not like, filled to the garden.

[Trisha]

It's right here.

[Tana]

I love our sleepover vibes because she's just like going to show me a cute shirt that she bought and I love it here. This is so funny because I. Yes. You should also make this. Oh, my God. You need to make this your own merchant salad. Have you seen the one too, where it's you with a crown? Yeah. And it's on a black shirt.

[Trisha]

Yes.

[Tana]

I keep almost buying that on Tick Tock shop, but I'm like, I want to put money in her pocket. This is. But I want these lips right now itching.

[Trisha]

Like, was the lips what was happening?

[Tana]

No, but like lip touching, nose filler. It's.

[Trisha]

Oh, I thought I was so hot.

[Tana]

You are, though. You are, though.

[Trisha]

I was asking Moses. We were doing our vision board and I have no idea why, but we're like the bleach in tone. And I was like, do you know what that's from? He's like, I only know cuz I see the. The clips of Tana saying it. And I started to ask him like, do you know like what a bleach and tone is? This is so funny to hear. Like, he had no idea who Hilary Duff was before me. He has no idea behind the lore of a bleach and tone. And I, I'm like, that's so funny. So I was like doing it. My oblige in tone, like a bleaching. He's like, I don't get it.

[Tana]

I was like, what do you mean?

[Trisha]

Like, that's so iconic. But it's just so funny how like something that is so ingrained in, like, everyone's had you. Like, everyone knows this. Everyone knows what it means. Everyone knows it's from like the story time.

[Tana]

Yes.

[Trisha]

He's just like, no, I don't know.

[Tana]

But educating Makoa things is like, truly my life's like, joy you should have. I walk in after filming the halter top video and he goes, oh, cute top, babe. Like, you're so excited about it. You just like film so many videos in it. Like, you look so cute. You're cute top. But I was like, oh, sweetheart, I'll bless you like with the hour of your time. Like, you just go back to whatever it is that you're doing. But like, he knows nothing about Internet stuff. So I'm always.

[Trisha]

I love that though. I kind of do love that because.

[Tana]

It'S cute, it's a nice balance. Like, and then I'll educate him on some things and it's so funny to me. And like, that's what that.

[Trisha]

That is what's crazy. But then it's like, because Moses, like does the podcast with us now and does like hot topics and stuff, he'll like, know more than I do. Like, he's like, so Michaela's PR package, she's sending it out in tin fish. Like, she's sending out tin fish.

[Tana]

Wait, what do you mean? Like, it's sending out tinfish?

[Trisha]

It's like a tin fish.

[Tana]

Oh, like a sardines.

[Trisha]

Yes. That she's sending her makeup out in. And he's just like. And it just came out like literally this morning. Like, how did you know about that so fast?

[Tana]

Moses is everything for knowing that I.

[Trisha]

Need that PR package. I was like, well, let's ask her. I guess it's like salmon infused skin care or something. Sending it out in fish tin that's actually, like, genius.

[Tana]

And I feel like the sardine. Like, I see that everywhere. Like, at anthropology right now. It's weirdly trendy.

[Trisha]

Have you ever tried a tin fish?

[Tana]

I will die.

[Trisha]

No, I can't. Like, nauseating. Like, I asked him today, I'm like, is there something that physically wouldn't make me sick? He's like, I don't know.

[Tana]

Yeah. Oh, my God.

[Trisha]

I smell it when he's, like, done it in the morning. And I'm like, I want to die. I'm like, oh, my gosh.

[Tana]

I think I will die having never tried that with love. And I, like, listen, and I love that he, like, everyone loves their. Their thing. You know what I mean? Like, I love pickles. You don't like pickles? Like, we all have our things that we like.

[Trisha]

Right? Right, Right.

[Tana]

Then I love that for Moses, I saw the cutest video of him in Malibu trying tin fish.

[Trisha]

Oh, she was, like, eating little crackers, like, chips with him or something.

[Tana]

Oh, yeah, she had her bowl of chips. That's my girl. For real. That be me.

[Trisha]

I didn't see those ruffles.

[Tana]

She is just like, us.

[Trisha]

For real. Cream cheese toast.

[Tana]

I think that it's so important to do whatever you are passionate about, because I feel like, as a viewer, you read that through the camera.

[Trisha]

Camera.

[Tana]

Like, if someone is mentally clocked into what they're talking about, if they're passionate about it or not. And I feel like we're in that era where people, like, we finally have turned back over to, like, people not wanting curated lives, people not wanting. People want to hear your opinions. You're. If you have any hot takes. I think that's always, like, if you feel like you have an opposing opinion to, like, what the masses are, people are always interested to hear that. Like, I don't know. I think that with everything social media, my advice to people always, like, as corny as it is, it's like, to make it in this industry, in my opinion, authenticity, you must lead with it first. Because if you're pretending to be someone that you're not, it is very hard to sustain that. For you to have passion and drive towards not being yourself.

[Trisha]

Yeah. I mean, yeah, it's hard to sustain it. And people also see through it.

[Tana]

Yes.

[Trisha]

Like, if you do. I always talk about that. How I used to try to do makeup tutorials. We were talking about makeup turtles, and I was like, I really tried because I thought that was, like, the thing everyone see. And I like, like, hated my life, hated makeup, hated trying to Learn to make up. And I was just like, like this. This is the worst.

[Tana]

Like, I hate this 100%. It's like. And just think about when you're with your friends and your friend starts talking about the thing and their eyes are lighting up and they're talking about the thing. Like, even if it's something you know nothing about, you are automatically so much more captivated due to their passion and interest in it.

[Trisha]

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[Tana]

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[Trisha]

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[Tana]

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[Trisha]

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[Trisha]

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[Tana]

And I think that's such an important, like, applicable notion towards social media because it's like, like you. You want to see someone talking about something, even like, brand flakes. How he, like, will talk about, like, the back end of social media and he, like, really knows it in and out. And like, he came in to become an influencer and, like, really hustled to, like, make it work.

[Trisha]

Like, I love brand flakes.

[Tana]

Yes.

[Trisha]

He's my new obsession.

[Tana]

I know. I love him so much.

[Trisha]

He's so cool.

[Tana]

He really is.

[Trisha]

Where's he at? He's in New Jersey. Oh, New York. Yeah.

[Tana]

But even just, like, when you're hearing him talk about, like, social media hacks and stuff, you can tell that that's really his Bread and butter. And it's like so into. Even when you're talking about Broadway, like, it's like. Or just like when we talk about pop culture. Just different, like different things. I don't know, just whatever it is that you feel like you light up talking about, hone in on that, you know?

[Trisha]

Yeah, I think that's great advice. I think it's like, I, I, I would always say too, like, if you're just starting and yeah, maybe you do love, like people do specific podcasts, but also just when people talk about their lives. I like that. Like, I love. I always get it wrong now. Pretty basic, but I know pretty basic, unfiltered. I like pretty basic with Ms. Remy Ashton and Alicia Marie because they just talk about their, like, lives. Like, it's literally like we just got married. I like stuff like that.

[Tana]

Yeah.

[Trisha]

Even the one they do with, like, Keith and Zane. Like, as much as I'm like, oh, like, I was kind of over them. But I mean, I listen to it because it's just, I like talking, hearing people just talk about their lives. Even I have no idea who the hell they're talking about. They'll be like, my friend this. And I'm like, I have no idea who they're talking about. But sometimes you just want to, like, listen to someone else's life.

[Tana]

Yes. That's so true. And like, it could be even like, Ken Yurich is so good with that. I love her like, like, because it could, she could literally just walk down the street and have like an interaction. But the way she tells it.

[Trisha]

Yes.

[Tana]

Because sometimes it's that too. It's like just the way that someone is talking about something. No, that's 100% you.

[Trisha]

Whenever you do story time stuff, I remember being like, like, I had no idea what was happening. Don't know anybody involved. And I'm just like, so invested as is everybody. Everyone's like, yes.

[Tana]

That is like, just. Yeah, I love to, like, talk about little anecdotal things and like, that's, you got to find the things that you want to talk about and be authentic and, and consistency and success, you know, go hand in hand. And like, it will come if it's meant for you. Yeah, yeah, it will come. And I. We believe in you. And like, that's, it's just so exciting that we live in this day and age where anyone I know a lot of people talk about oversaturation, but like, at the same time, it's cool that anyone can make and do anything. Like, there is so much more Accessibility now. Yeah, there's always room.

[Trisha]

We were talking about that too. Like what goes viral, like on TikTok. Like, this Chinese baddie thing is like a big thing right now. And I'm like, it is interesting how it kind of comes out of nowhere and like your whole FYP canvas or even like tin fish or something, you're just like, where the hell this come from? It just becomes like a thing.

[Tana]

Yes. And there's so many sides of the Internet that like, whatever you're talking about there, there is a group of people who are going to resonate with you. And that's why it's so important that it should be whatever is authentic to you, because you'll find your people and then you'll love what you do and you'll be able to sustain it, you.

[Trisha]

Know, Then you become a big star. I was thinking about the Mormon Wives. I'm like, how crazy that, like, sex swinging scandal turned into like Mormon wives, which is now like the Bachelor and Dancing with the Stars and Broadway. I'm like, wow, they really. They really.

[Tana]

Yes. And they. And they were also just sharing the intricacies of their life that they probably found to be entirely normal, but other people found fascinating, you know, which is cool.

[Trisha]

Yeah, it is wild.

[Tana]

I just started that, like, started Mormon Wives, like season one, episode one. I started it and I was like, God, this is interesting. Like, I could see how the show gets crazy.

[Trisha]

You know, I made it a few episodes in and I love the girls. Like, I love Taylor Frankfurt, I love Whitney. I love all them. I just kind of got in the show. But maybe. But I don't like Housewives either. And Housewives is so popular, so.

[Tana]

Because even in the, like, first few episodes, the family wasn't approving of her, like, moving in with like the new. Her new guy or something.

[Trisha]

Yeah.

[Tana]

And I was like, oh, I can see how this show could get crazy. The swinging is. I don't know enough about it to comment on it, but, like, imagine they.

[Trisha]

Were soft swingers, I suppose. I don't know.

[Tana]

Soft.

[Trisha]

Soft swinging is.

[Tana]

Yeah. Devon, could you look up the difference between swinging and soft swinging?

[Trisha]

Yeah, she's like, we were soft swinging.

[Tana]

Everyone's just actually soft, soft swinging.

[Trisha]

Oh, I love.

[Tana]

It. Soft swinging involves non penetration rate of sexual activity while other couple with other.

[Trisha]

Couples, while traditional swinging includes full intercourse.

[Tana]

Oh, so they're. They're just not taking it there.

[Trisha]

Everything but.

[Tana]

Yeah, I just like kissing and touching. Because here's the thing, they don't drink, right? Mormons.

[Trisha]

They're not Supposed to. I think they do Mormon wise. Yeah, they drink.

[Tana]

Oh, okay.

[Trisha]

Especially Taylor, Frankie, Paul. She got arrested when she was drunk. Domestic violence. Yeah.

[Tana]

Yeah.

[Trisha]

It can be controversial people. Anyways, that's the whole thing. But it can be controversial because it's is kind of a wild. They're kind of wild.

[Tana]

Yeah. But I just can't imagine like, okay, Wednesday night we're all, we're all going to show up and then we're all going to each other soft. Each other. Like imagine, like imagine right now on your schedule next week. You and Moses were showing up to meet with like three other couples and like you knew the vibes. Like glamming. Yeah. And glammy getting glam.

[Trisha]

Like knowing, oh yeah.

[Tana]

Beauty blending your concealer. Knowing, like I'm about to suck my best friend's husband been. I'm not judging or hating.

[Trisha]

I just know it's crazy. It is, right? I think that's why it's interesting because I didn't. To most people. It is. It is crazy. It is like. What do you mean? Because I saw Neo was on Sherry shepherd show this past week and he was talking about how he has three girlfriends and he's like the first girlfriend he's been with a longer time and he's like, I just needed other girlfriends so she had to be like, okay with it. So they're. They're polyamorous. So meaning they all do like group activities. They group date each other. And I just thought like, I think people were shook. The comments were shook by it because he was also like, they're exclusive to me but obviously he has three girlfriends so they're like, they can't have other boyfriend. It's just like so fascinating. It is a crazy thing to put out there knowing that the world will not like understand it. Yes, I definitely don't understand. I would like to. I really try to wrap my head around it. Like three girlfriends, they all share you. They can't be with anyone else. That's crazy. And then group dating, I don't know.

[Tana]

Know I. I can wrap my head around more like just like polyamory where everyone's fluid and everyone can do what they want and whatever.

[Trisha]

Yes.

[Tana]

It's harder for me to wrap my head around even like Nick Cannon. I went on a whole thing where I would like self fund like the secret lives of Nick Cannon's wives. Like I would do anything. Well, I think they're doing it to a television show.

[Trisha]

I think so I would.

[Tana]

Oh my God, I'm going to be their number One viewer.

[Trisha]

Yeah, because.

[Tana]

Because the. The hypocritical loyalty is, like, what I don't understand, and, like, how they be.

[Trisha]

Loyal to him, but he doesn't have to be loyal to them.

[Tana]

Yeah. Because that's. If Moko really came to me and he was like, I want us to have another girlfriend, I'd be like, okay, fine. But, like, I'm gonna. I'm gonna have another. I wouldn't be like, okay, fine, actually. I would literally raise hell and everyone.

[Trisha]

I want another wife.

[Tana]

No, actually, yeah. I would literally lose my mind, blow my top. But, like, like, yeah, I don't know. Just the.

[Trisha]

I. I can't. That's what I can't. But, like, let us know if you're polyamorous. I. I like it. I respect it, but I don't. I don't get. I literally can't get it. I feel like I can get almost anything. I get fisting, but I don't get polyamory.

[Tana]

You know what I mean? I definitely get fisting, but I don't get polyamory. I'm gonna second you on that. But, like, I just. I just always wonder, like, truly, even in this Neo situation, if the first wife just had to be okay with something that she's not. And, like, maybe I'm wrong for saying that. Like, maybe people aren't gonna like that. I'm saying that.

[Trisha]

I don't know.

[Tana]

But, like, even with, like, Nick Cannon's situation, like, there had to be someone at the start of this long pyramid that had to, like, settle. Yeah.

[Trisha]

I think with Nick Cannon, they all know about each other, but they're not all in a relationship together. With Neo, he's like, it's important. We do group. Were a group.

[Tana]

Yeah.

[Trisha]

Like, they all had to be with each other, as opposed to even Cody from Sister Wives.

[Tana]

They.

[Trisha]

They all knew about each other, but they were different. They were all separate relationships.

[Tana]

Yeah.

[Trisha]

So they didn't all have to be in a relationship with each other. So the Neo one gives me more Hugh Hefner with the three girls, where it's like, Holly was like, I do not want this, but, like, if you want to be a part of it, then you got to just go along with it. I think. I think a lot of celebrity significant others are okay with the cheating. They're just, like, not okay with it, but they have to be. They just, like, they know what's happening. Yeah. I think I would have been like that. Like, I was, like, so in love with, like, the idea of, like, being married to a Celebrity and people I've dated who are like, definitely not a list and definitely not worth it. But I think I probably would have been one of those, because I did date celebrities and then they would, like, cheat and you're just like, but it's fine. It's what celebrities do. Like, yeah, I probably, like, would have convinced myself I was okay and then, like, mentally gone off the rails.

[Tana]

But yeah, that's the thing, because that's the other thing too. Like, for Neo, it's like, yes, there's the fun sex aspect, but what happens when you're in. In a fight with three women and then the two women are fighting with each other and then the other ones on this side and like, the hell is breaking loose?

[Trisha]

Like, yeah, I guess. I guess he just.

[Tana]

Because one women. One woman in a fight with a man is powerful enough, let alone. Right.

[Trisha]

3. I guess in that case it's like, good for the girls. Like, they have. There's power numbers. Like, we're gonna just like, boycott.

[Tana]

Yeah, yeah, that's true. Yeah. But then I'm saying. And then he's like, what have I done? Just for some crazy sex?

[Trisha]

Like she did for some crazy sex. But then Nick Cannon, I think with that there is what I can see from the outside, some competition. Because did you see all the holiday.

[Tana]

Cards he did with everybody and how Bri ties. He had a second one in the blackout.

[Trisha]

She had like, third. I think she had three. She's like, let me just like, keep one upping everybody to see how many times.

[Tana]

I just couldn't get my mind. I was like, did he just put on a suit and go take them all in one day?

[Trisha]

Yeah.

[Tana]

And why wouldn't they just do a group photo? What. What is happening here to where they.

[Trisha]

Should do group photo?

[Tana]

And it's a collab post and everyone saves, like, hair and make makeup time and like, like times like a collab.

[Trisha]

Was to be great. Yeah, everybody.

[Tana]

But so is there, like, inner circle beef because they were all separate?

[Trisha]

I think Bri wants to be the number one. Is what I've been seeing on TikTok is like, she wants to make it known that she's number one.

[Tana]

Yeah.

[Trisha]

But the other women are also.

[Tana]

And then he also does kind of like even just doing the three shoots with her, there is this hierarchy of her. But is that because of her social media numbers? Is it that her posts with him do the best? So then has it created this entire environment with the rest of them? Them where they're trying to make theirs the best and it's this competition, and it's like, crazy. Do the kids all play together? Like, yes.

[Trisha]

I think they go to each other's birthday parties.

[Tana]

Okay.

[Trisha]

That's what I can gather, because I. I was going on everyone's Instagram. I'm, like, looking at everything everyone. And I think they do go to each other's birthday parties is what I see from it. But it's a very popular trend. Jason Derulo just said he can never be monogamous. He's like, that's just, like, not for me. And he has a child with Jenna. Fruit mate. Frooms. Yeah. So I think some. I guess it's like, the honesty is good, right? It's like they just tell people straight up, like, I need to have multiple women.

[Tana]

And I will say, yeah. Like, I actually do. That's so much better than just being a lying cheater.

[Trisha]

And the girls, I think, are okay with it. Like, I truly feel like I told you I met Abby De la Rosa at the. At the punk match. I saw Nick, and he was there with the kids. And I remember she was just, like, making jokes about it. It's like, oh, yeah, you know, they have a lot of. They had a lot of siblings, you know, like, you know, she's like, very. That's why. Feel like they're okay with it, I suppose, which is like. Like, I'm just so, so, so jealous. It can never be me. But I. I respect it.

[Tana]

I'm just so fascinated. I'm not joking you. I will be the very first person down to the minute tuning into that show. If it's real.

[Trisha]

I think it is. I think that's why they were doing all the photo shoots, and then they all went back to a place that was snowy. I follow the three ones that he takes pictures with. It's like, Abby, it's Bri. And then there's another one who has a child from somebody else. And I follow all of them, and they were all doing the same thing around Christmas time and so stuff. So I think they. I think they're doing a show, is what I heard. I don't know.

[Tana]

I also just wonder, like, is it child support? Like, is he paying them all child.

[Trisha]

Some nice houses? All of them? Yes, they all have great houses.

[Tana]

I was like, wow.

[Trisha]

Well, honestly. And they get cute kids and it's Nick Cannon. I mean, he's kind of funny. I love Mouse Singer. So I was like, I guess. I guess maybe if I was like, definitely. If I was like, single. I mean, he has a type. He definitely Is, like, thin and pretty and stuff like that. But I was in my 20s. I'd probably have been down.

[Tana]

Yeah, I guess that's also true. Like, do you think someone, one of them was like, you know what? This will set me up. Yeah, of course.

[Trisha]

I mean, in my 20s, that's all I wanted. I was just like, I need to be with, like. I was gonna say the barn dancer. He's married, but, like, some, like, some basketball players and that. I just know forever that I can, like. Yeah, you know, but, like. And it's a weird way to think, but I think it's real. I think a lot of women, I.

[Tana]

Mean, especially in la, obviously, people just do, like, kind of think like that, but it is, like, just all so fast. I mean, also, he is, like, even in the. Like, I met him once, but, like, we interacted once. But he was super sweet.

[Trisha]

Yes.

[Tana]

And, like, super, like, funny, nice, charming, all the things. So maybe it's also that where it's like, each person, like, genuinely fell in love with him.

[Trisha]

And he's doing the work a lot of men won't do for one woman. You know what I mean? He's doing the photo shoots and he's taking care of them, and it's just kind of like. Well, yeah, that's true.

[Tana]

He is showing up for all of his kids. Like, all these.

[Trisha]

I can attest at the pumpkin batch. He is in it. He is, like, taking them around. He's getting them French fries. Like, he's, you know. And I, like, was just like. I literally was like. I literally became that person that was, like, the weird. I was, like, looking around. Oh, wow, look at him just being with all the kids, hanging out.

[Tana]

So maybe it's not as deep as everyone makes it. I don't know. We'll tune in. I will be the first. I hope.

[Trisha]

I hope it's real.

[Tana]

That's all I know. Love our pajama nights. Like, I loved that in the first episode of Not Loveline, we were in, like, sequin dresses and, like, we had a vision and, like, I love that for us, but over time, I'm slipping to it. No, no, I love that we're, like, comfy girls now.

[Trisha]

I'm, like, debating on deleting my Instagram.

[Tana]

I.

[Trisha]

You know, because I haven't been posting Instagram, so I posted one day. I think I'm gonna delete it.

[Tana]

I literally Instagram account my post from today.

[Trisha]

It was like, I'm like, mosa came, take some photos. I mean, I thought I was looking really cute. I got, like, a Victoria's Secret, like, plush robe that was for Valentine's Day. It's like, wow, I look so cute. And I was like, I'm gonna be like, this cute little. Where's my phone girl? Outside. I'm deleting it. I'm deleting it instantly outside. Yes. But everyone's, like, naturally in her Tony Soprano era, not Trisha and her James Gandalf Delphini era. I was like, instantly. And there was, like, literally 30 comments calling me Tony Soprano. And I was like, deleting, deleting.

[Tana]

I don't know enough about Tony Soprano. To Sopranos.

[Trisha]

James Gandolfini in a robe. And it's like, he's a big guy with a big belly.

[Tana]

Also, because you're standing in front of your mansion, like, it is. It's giving. Like, I'm gonna show you. No, I think you're cute.

[Trisha]

No, I might instantly was like, I do look, like, the worst way.

[Tana]

Look at this.

[Trisha]

Like, look at the profile. Okay, wait, keep that one up. Look at the profile. I should never stood to the side. She's giving me a complex.

[Tana]

No, you look so pretty.

[Trisha]

The first thing that comes up, we type in Tony Soprano. Tony Soprano robe. Okay, so that's like the first thing and. Okay.

[Tana]

Okay. But that's not saying you're. You look like Tony Soprano. That is literally show the class. It's literally like.

[Trisha]

AMARI laughs it's fine. It's fine. I have a big belly right now. And, like, you're.

[Tana]

We're laughing at how delicious delusional you are.

[Trisha]

I'm sending this to Jimmy so he can put a side by side, because I'm like, literally, that is me. And I'm deleting it. Like, yeah, I'm not even trying to be something I've gained, like, a lot, actually.

[Tana]

Like, the hottest photo that literally is the exact same. No, no, no. I love you so much. I'm dying on this hill. Like, his skin looks amazing. Face amazing. The robe is cute.

[Trisha]

I thought I ate and I was like, oh, not. Not giving that.

[Tana]

But anyways, you are so out to.

[Trisha]

Lunch because Moses has been cooking me pasta every single day. And I've, like, loved it, but I don't know who I am. I'm like, literally need this gel. But anyways, doesn't matter.

[Tana]

Oh, my God. No. You look hot.

[Trisha]

I. Well, you can. You are tiny.

[Tana]

And Amari does have, like, the metabolism of a warrior. It's literally like. Shut up.

[Trisha]

Yeah, you're so lucky. Oh, God.

[Tana]

Shut up.

[Trisha]

Did you show him our dance we're doing for our music video.

[Tana]

I. Well she told. I told him about it. She told me about the dance that.

[Trisha]

You think you the we can do it.

[Tana]

Don't.

[Trisha]

Amari's our set double. We call him and Cedric because she.

[Tana]

Was like, she thinks I'm gonna dance. Like I can like I think you can dance. I think I can dance. I 100% like Vegas show showgirl. We can like hit a little move. You showed me a video of someone doing and I quote, a baby freeze. Okay. Are you aware like that?

[Trisha]

That's good. Look at you. Wait, that's so date. Because of the shit.

[Tana]

That was so good.

[Trisha]

You were like down. That was without the chair though.

[Tana]

Bab. I would try. I would try anything for you. I really would. If you were like, let's skydive tomorrow. I would do it for you. Like I would. I will try to learn to baby freeze for you. But like if we're talking about statistical odds of like the end result.

[Trisha]

It could look good though. It could look good.

[Tana]

I'll try it first and I think what you say hit some L class. Maybe I should learn to do three push ups. Three. I've been. Oh my God. I've been trying to be active for 30 minutes a day every day. And I literally. I mean I've been doing it but like I can't. I can't do three push ups.

[Trisha]

You feel better?

[Tana]

I think I will. You see me run? I do. I run. I run like scared white girl.

[Trisha]

Yeah, I run like my feet don't like pick up from the ground. Like I literally drag my feet. Like it's so weird. I actually cannot really run. We're doing for the just Trish Patreon. We're doing a track meet day and I thought, oh, we could do a crossover. We could do a not love line. Cuz we have to set it up as I have to talk to them about.

[Tana]

I promise you I'll be there but.

[Trisha]

Can you like hurdle and shop?

[Tana]

I'll try. I would love to. Cuz I like. I like treadmill walking and running and I've always wanted to. You know what actually inspired me weirdly was like how I was up.

[Trisha]

Sensor. No, just kidding.

[Tana]

No Sensor. Actually Sensor. Jimmy no like put a little rubber duck because I'm so embarrassed to say that. But they go. They go to the track.

[Trisha]

You watch the content.

[Tana]

No, no, no. I'm not like I just saw that he took him to the track and I was like, oh, okay. Like I don't Know his name, took him to. Took him to the track. And I was like, I want to go to the track. Someone else and I want to try it. Like, it'd be so fun.

[Trisha]

Okay, we should do it because we were talking about this track day for so long. Please invite me crossover Patreon to track me. I thought that there. That'd be cute.

[Tana]

I'm so there.

[Trisha]

Yeah, we'll need, like, a team because we'll have. Have like, Jimmy, Oscar, Moses sweatbands. Yeah, that'd be cute.

[Tana]

That's what I have to do is have a cute accessory in mind. And with little wrist cuffs, we'll be.

[Trisha]

Leopard, and then Jester shall be pink.

[Tana]

Oh, my God. Cute.

[Trisha]

Me battling myself.

[Tana]

Yeah.

[Trisha]

That means you're doing double. I was like, you're right. Why would I do. I'm like, okay, now I'm gonna sprint for this.

[Tana]

We could all do it together. She's just so fun. It'd be fun.

[Trisha]

It's more funny in camp because there's just no way in hell I'm gonna do a baton, you know, marathon.

[Tana]

Yeah.

[Trisha]

The relay races.

[Tana]

I'm so down to try that. So fun.

[Trisha]

Schedule it for February. February. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So weird.

[Tana]

I had a dream I was on a track like a week ago.

[Trisha]

I ran track in high school.

[Tana]

You did? Amari ran track in high school, which is so crazy.

[Trisha]

In Vegas, you be on the team. I. I don't know who will win. Just is pretty fit over there. Jimmy and Oscar are always going.

[Tana]

I'm losing everything, but I know. I'm, like, happy to be there. Higher.

[Trisha]

Yes. Like.

[Tana]

Like, for real.

[Trisha]

I'm the same way.

[Tana]

Happy to be included.

[Trisha]

I can't wait for, like, a hurdle. Moses can jump, like an eight foot building, like an eight foot wall. He's. I've seen him do it. Like, like, just cold off the floor. Like, over that. He could jump over that. It's crazy. And he's done it with, like, no. Yeah. I used to throw my keys over the gate and he would like. Or his keys. His car keys. I'd throw over my gate so he couldn't get them. And he would, like, just jump flat foot over. And we have, like, footage of me from my old, like, security camera of him, like, jumping over. I was like, how the hell did you do it?

[Tana]

That is actually. That's so funny. Doing the keys too.

[Trisha]

So me, I was very, like, intoxicated, but I.

[Tana]

Jumping is so weird. I had this whole thought the other day, like, as humans, we just figured out a way to like, be higher than, like, what we are.

[Trisha]

Well, I. Yeah. And that's what I don't understand too. Like, like the humans that can jump really, really high. Like people can just do like a flat jump onto leg models like over 8ft. W. I'm like, how the hell does that happen?

[Tana]

I couldn't jump over this table. No, I couldn't either without like six. But I like that. We're gonna try. I'm excited.

[Trisha]

We're gonna do the small hurdles over a hurdle.

[Tana]

Why not?

[Trisha]

That's gonna be fun. Okay, we'll try and. We'll try and do it for February, cuz there's. There's high schools that'll let you, like, use their tracks and stuff.

[Tana]

I would live.

[Caller]

Hi, my name is Maile and it's spelled the Hawaiian way. Shout out to Hawaii. I'm 24 years old. I am currently pregnant. My husband and I, we're gonna have our first kid. But I have questions about sobriety and also being a mother kind of for both of you guys. So first of all, I think the main thing is how do you, like, not drink when everyone around you is drinking? Because, I mean, like, obviously I can't right now watch Knocked up. But like, in the future, I think I want to keep staying decently sober. I mean, I know I'm gonna have a box of Red Bull ready for me once I get this thing out of me, but. Yeah, how do you stay sober when everyone around you is, like, drinking and it just looks like so much fun and like. Yeah, that's all I want to know. Love you guys.

[Tana]

Our queen. Okay, the vodka Red Bull right after the baby comes out of you is hilarious. That's like out of a movie. You're so funny. Not even like a glass of wine too. Like, the specific drink choice is cracking me up. Vodka Red Bull.

[Trisha]

The breastfeeding goes crazy.

[Tana]

Yes.

[Trisha]

The baby's gonna be in getting some.

[Tana]

Literally the baby's like, yeah. To answer your question, I feel like. Well, first of all, you're like, well, everyone else is having so much fun and I want to really ask you if I don't know that I had. I came to a conclusion over time where I would start seeing people be really sloppy or I'd watch someone start a fight with their partner. Like, you know what I mean? Or like, just make mistakes and do things where, like, say things that they didn't mean. Or like, I really like being around really, really drunk people. I can be around people who've had drinks and stuff, but if I'M in a room of, like, faced people. I'm like, oh, my God, I can't believe this was me for so long. Like. And I rewrote my.

[Trisha]

Close your eyes. Exhale.

[Tana]

Feel your body relax, and let go of whatever you're carrying today. Well, I'm letting go of the worry that I wouldn't get my new contacts in time for this class. I got them delivered free from 1-800-contacts. Oh, my gosh, they're so fast. And breathe.

[Trisha]

Oh, sorry.

[Tana]

I almost couldn't breathe when I saw the discount they gave me on my first order.

[Trisha]

Oh, sorry.

[Tana]

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[Trisha]

Jigsaw.

[Tana]

They're so fun. Like, I definitely. But also, like, the main answer, the real answer is that, like, I. I had to hit a rock bottom to see what it did to me. That made me realize that I don't want it. You know what I mean? That there's. Even if I'm missing out on a certain, like, small caliber of life that I now no longer want to be a part of or care that I'm missing out on. The cons outweighed the pros for me. Like, that was just so of other people. And other people also can drink in moderation, and I can't. So, I mean, like, I had to just eat that, accept that, and that's my answer. But I. I do think everyone's journey is completely different. And, like, if you want to drink and do that, then drink and do you know what I mean? Like, just do what's best for you and, like, if you still find it, like, fun or you still want to have a drink now and again, like, do it, you know, Like, I don't really know if she was trying to ask about getting sober or not. Like, I couldn't really get to, like, the bottom of that question.

[Trisha]

Yeah, just, like, what to do when other people are having. Yeah, you. I think you answered it like, you're just like. You listen to your, like, self and.

[Tana]

Yeah, like, because I'll go to dinner, my friends are having drinks, and I'm still having fun with the conversation. Or like, well, I'll go to Dave and Busters or, like, a karaoke or something, and I'm still having fun with. We'll go to the Grove and go shopping and maybe they're gonna have an aperol spritz or something at the lunch. But, like, I'm not going to. You know, I'm still gonna, like, I just have fun in other ways. You know, I found fun and, like, meaningful conversations or, like, just different things. And that's. That's my truth. But I never want to, like, preach my story as being someone else's. You know what I mean? If you feel like you can have the moderate drinks and, like, have the fun, like, do it. You know, If I could drink moderately, I would be having a glass of red wine after this podcast.

[Trisha]

Right. Right. I guess it's just like, knowing your. Your limits and what your body is like.

[Tana]

Yeah.

[Trisha]

It seems like with any addiction, it's like, there's a point where it's like, okay, I've had enough. But, yeah, it's hard to tell because she didn't really go into detail. It was, like, a problem. It sounds like it is like, if you're pregnant and you're able. Because a lot of people are pregnant, they still drink through it because they have a problem. But if you're able to stay sober through this, I'm assuming you could be sober if you wanted after. I'm assuming, too. It's probably easier the longer you go. Right. Like, after, like, the first six months, you're probably like, oh, no, I don't need it. You don't crave it as much. I don't know.

[Tana]

Yeah.

[Trisha]

You know, and I.

[Tana]

The more out of it I get, the more I'm like, oh, alcohol does make me. Or other people make bad decisions they wouldn't make. Or, ooh, alcohol does, like, make me a messy. Ooh, alcohol does make me less hard working because I'm hungover, less productive because I'm hungover. Like, less creative because I'm suppressed, Like, less. More anxious because I'm. I don't know. I just. The cons really heavily outweighed the pros for me, even. And obviously there are so, like, coachella I'm. I'd be lying if I said that I think Coachella is more fun sober. It's not, but like, I'm going to go and just do it and find fun in other ways. Cuz I can't. Like, there are certain things where, like, I wish I could drink for that. It is more fun with alcohol. But like, I know what would happen if I had it, you know, So I don't know. I think that's my answer. And congratulations on your baby.

[Trisha]

Yeah, it's so exciting and we love.

[Tana]

You and yeah, girl, just. There's no guide book, there's no rule book for anything that everyone asks advice on the like, you know, just make the best decisions for you and you got this and that. It's an advice show and I'm saying make the best decisions for you and you've got this.

[Trisha]

But that is so subjective for people because like you said, it's so hard. It's different for different people. Some people need to like, check themselves into quit drinking. And some people are just like, I'm just done.

[Tana]

Yeah, 100%.

[Trisha]

Good luck and congrats on your baby. That's so exciting. Yeah, we love you. And probably once you have a baby, you might be just like too tired where you're like, I don't think I can drink. You know what I mean? Because that would make you probably like more tired. And we're gonna find the time to drink when you know, if you want. I don't know if she's like, wanting to be sober. She's just asking. But if you. If you ask me, I don't even know where you'd find the time to do anything when you have any more. Not to scare you. It's great. It's wonderful. But like, you don't have any time, which is kind of good for someone who needs distractions. But yes. Okay.

[Tana]

No, that was valid. That was really valid.

[Trisha]

I knocked over these milk puffs. I didn't know how it happened. That's like the word. I feel like that's when you know your butt's too big. It's like when you just like hit things and knock things over.

[Tana]

You have the best butt ever. I'm always staring. I'm no better than a man.

[Trisha]

It is a white wide.

[Tana]

No, because your butt is so like, it's like. It's like a peach. It's like round.

[Trisha]

You seen it naked? It's not.

[Tana]

Oh, my God.

[Trisha]

I'm not being self deprecating. Like, my butt is like cottage cheese.

[Tana]

I If I see you in, like, leggings or anything, I'm like, damn. Like, I feel like a man. Literally, the leggings.

[Trisha]

I get triggered because I see.

[Tana]

Anyways, no, I've. I saw a photo of B from the back in Hawaii and I was giving Diaper Diva down. Like, was it wet, though?

[Trisha]

Like, it's wet when wet swimsuits are.

[Tana]

No diaper. Oh, no, ma'. Am. What do you mean? I was giving, like, just like, I had. I don't know, I just felt like I needed to kind of perk it up. I've been standing on those Tik Tok vibration plates. I got one.

[Trisha]

Oh, how is it working?

[Tana]

I've been doing it every single day and I'm going to do it for 30 days before I give my opinion because I think a lot of people are always trying to sell it with the Tik Tok link. And like, I'm.

[Trisha]

I, you don't do that, do you?

[Tana]

No, I, I, I might dabble because I sometimes I really love something thing and then it's like, then it's honest and authentic. I, I would never just sell something with a link if I didn't like it.

[Trisha]

Yeah.

[Tana]

Like my Medicube masks. I could, like, see myself putting a link on that because, like, I love that. Or like, yeah, certain things like that, I guess. But yeah, I'm trying out the vibration plate because apparently it helps with cellulite.

[Trisha]

And just like, I feel like I see it through. I don't see it through the leggings.

[Tana]

No, I see it. I saw a photo that. I'm serious. Where I was just like, oh, girl, we gotta, we gotta. That's why I'm moving actually active.

[Trisha]

The photos will, will really rat on you for sure.

[Tana]

And everything's angled too, because it's like we always will see a bad photo of ourselves and it's like, oh, my God, I look like this. And then it's like you'll see another photo of you where you're, like, posing or it's a different angle and it's like you look nothing like that. You know what I mean? Like, you can't write it all off to one photo. Like, who cares? It's just life. But I definitely, like, a goal of mine is to be more fit this year and, like, physically fit and all the things. So I'm trying, working at it. I'm just, it's, it's hard. I think it's ingrained in some people. People and other people. Like, for me at least, I have to like, fight demons to get myself to, like, be consistent with it.

[Trisha]

I think it's routine, too. I feel like people say, like, once you're in a routine and you just get going, but gotta get the routine. I know. And I'm.

[Tana]

That's why I'm trying to just start really small. Like, even if it's just 20 minutes a day, I'm training my brain that it's important. And I think I bought as much as I'm talking about my diaper. Down. Diva down. In reality, the real reason is because I just notice myself. Not. Not, like. Like, oh, like, my back hurts really bad, or, like, oh, like, I'm getting winded doing this thing. And I'm just trying to, like, prioritize. Just be like, I want to be there for my kids. I want to be. Have the longest life ever. And, like, that's fitness, unfortunately.

[Trisha]

And now we all need it. It's hard, but it's so hard because.

[Tana]

I'm just fitting this chick fil a into my mouth. Like. Like, stand up.

[Trisha]

You should do Netflix as a joke.

[Tana]

That was what. That was your job. But it's true. And I just. Yeah. So I love that little fitness journey, a little health journey.

[Trisha]

We're gonna do it.

[Tana]

Yeah. We're gonna be on a track, running around, so that's a good start. That's the other thing, too, I think, is a lot of people incorporate fun into healthy lifestyle.

[Trisha]

Yeah.

[Tana]

And I need to, like, do more of that. Like, literally, I'm like, I want to go on a hike with some friends or like, just, you know, just don't fall off. Yeah. Oh, my God. I need moa there with, like, those child leashes where I hold the loop. Yeah.

[Trisha]

Because people really do just be slipping off clips, you know?

[Tana]

Yes. And if anyone would, it'd be me.

[Trisha]

No, same. I mean, that's why I don't do it. It's, like, not funny. But, like, honestly, like, that would be me. But I'm just. And I also know you can be.

[Tana]

I'm very clumsy.

[Trisha]

Well, same. So, yeah.

[Tana]

Telling you to be careful, but honestly, to all the clumsy girls out there, just know that you're so seen. Okay. Like, I can't. My hand. Eye coordination, all of it.

[Trisha]

I literally knocked down these, and I was like, where did it happen? Anyways. All right. It's real.

[Tana]

All right, here we go.

[Trisha]

Let's take some questions. Or we're done. Oh, we're done. Okay. Oh, thank you guys for watching.

[Tana]

We love you guys so much. Our not loveliners and thank you for the calls. I've been enjoying the calls so much, the two of them that we took. But you did good on those. Yes.

[Trisha]

Yes.

[Tana]

And we love you guys so much. And we will talk to you in the next episode of Not Love Life.

[Trisha]

Bye.