THE TRUTH ABOUT PLASTIC SURGERY! REGRETS & COMPLICATIONS

Summary

Podcast Summary: Not Loveline Episode: THE TRUTH ABOUT PLASTIC SURGERY! REGRETS & COMPLICATIONS
Release Date: August 12, 2025
Hosts: Tana Mongeau and Trish Paytas

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Introduction

In this episode of Not Loveline, Tana Mongeau and Trish Paytas delve deep into the often-overlooked aspects of plastic surgery, focusing on the regrets and complications that can accompany these procedures. Drawing from their personal experiences and insights, the hosts aim to provide a candid conversation about the realities of altering one's appearance.

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Personal Experiences with Plastic Surgery

Tana Mongeau opens up about her own plastic surgery journey, specifically sharing her experience with a nose job. She discusses the physical complications she faced during the procedure:

[36:37] Tana Mongeau: "My nose job, I was like, damn near bled out. Like, he said it was like a geyser during the operation."

She further explains the emotional toll it took on her:

[46:31] Tana Mongeau: "Now I have so much peace with it because it aligns with who they were. All they ever wanted was money. And when they stopped getting money, they were like, this is the perfect way."

Trish Paytas shares her struggles with breast implants, detailing the health issues that arose:

[29:31] Trish Paytas: "I have to get my surgery soon, because it's 10 years, and I think it's, like, leaking, actually, and slowly killing me. I'm like, please don't die."

She emphasizes the long-term risks associated with implants:

[30:24] Trish Paytas: "How stupid is that? Like, that's what's on your obituary is. Is, like, leaked implant. I'm like, you dumb."

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Regrets and Mental Health

Both hosts discuss the psychological impact of plastic surgery, highlighting feelings of regret and the struggle with self-image.

Tana Mongeau reflects on her decision-making process:

[27:01] Tana Mongeau: "If I have an insecurity that was so bad that I'm willing to risk, like, my quality of life to potentially make it better. That's one thing."

Trish Paytas elaborates on the lasting effects of implants on her mental health:

[31:17] Trish Paytas: "How stupid is that? Like, that's what's on your obituary is. Is, like, leaked implant. I'm like, you dumb. And, like, yeah, I guess it is."

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Advice and Coping Strategies

The hosts offer supporting advice to listeners considering plastic surgery or dealing with its aftermath.

Tana Mongeau emphasizes the importance of self-acceptance:

[73:35] Tana Mongeau: "Find that clothing item, that thing that makes you feel confident. Confident. You know what I mean?"

Trish Paytas encourages listeners to focus on internal qualities over external appearances:

[75:03] Trish Paytas: "It's like, you have to do all the corny. You have to say the affirmations. You have to, like, take a hot selfie."

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Listener Call: Body Image Insecurities

A listener named C calls in to express feelings of insecurity about weight gain during college. She shares her frustration with constantly needing to buy new clothes and feeling disheartened by her changing body.

Tana Mongeau responds with empathy and practical advice:

[73:35] Tana Mongeau: "Societally, because that's all it should be. It should be how we feel. I also will just say that she was saying she's 21 and if you are 21 and fully secure, you should run for president, you should go be in NASA that time of your life."

Trish Paytas reinforces the idea that clothing sizes vary and encourages embracing one's unique body:

[73:57] Trish Paytas: "It's made up and like sizes vary. Like I can be a size 14 in Old Navy but a size 18 in Abercrombie."

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Conclusion

In wrapping up, Tana Mongeau and Trish Paytas highlight the significance of mental well-being over societal beauty standards. They advocate for self-love and acceptance, reminding listeners that true beauty lies beyond physical appearances.

[78:29] Tana Mongeau: "Find that clothing item, that thing that makes you feel confident. Confident. You know what I mean?"

[78:52] Trish Paytas: "And what you weigh. And you won't feel like that forever."

The hosts conclude with a heartfelt message encouraging listeners to prioritize their mental health and to seek support if they grapple with insecurities related to their appearance.

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Notable Quotes:

• Tana Mongeau [36:37]: "Like, he said it was like a geyser during the operation."
• Trish Paytas [29:31]: "I'm like, please don't die."
• Tana Mongeau [73:35]: "Find that clothing item, that thing that makes you feel confident."
• Trish Paytas [73:57]: "It's made up and like sizes vary."

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This episode provides a raw and honest exploration of the complex emotions tied to plastic surgery, offering valuable insights for anyone considering such procedures or dealing with their consequences. Tana and Trish’s candid discussion serves as a reminder that true confidence and happiness come from within.

Transcript

[Tana Mongeau]

People are like, it's leg day. It's arm day. Yeah, no, it's Tuesday for me, and I want Wingstop.

[Trisha Paytas]

But it's actually, like, crazy when your parents sue you. Like.

[Tana Mongeau]

What do you mean? It was. I was like, you have to be kidding. I'll never forget the day. I was like, you're lying. When you. Wait. Close your eyes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, are we recording?

[Tana Mongeau]

Well, I have to, like, hide it behind me until. Are we recording? Hey, guys. And I think you might already have it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Keep your eyes closed. Oh, I love a double, though. Okay.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's the most. Well, I can wait till we're in the episode if you want. Yeah, you can open your eyes. It's behind me. It's in my.

[Trisha Paytas]

Actually, in. Okay. Okay. Patreon. Oh, my God. Okay, wait. I don't even know what it is. I can't see.

[Tana Mongeau]

Should I give it to you right now?

[Trisha Paytas]

Should we wait?

[Tana Mongeau]

I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

You tell me.

[Tana Mongeau]

I can't give it to you right now.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. It's so excited.

[Tana Mongeau]

I just want to know if you have this.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my gosh. I have something. Yes. But I first of all, love it. Moses got me this for my 32nd birthday when we first moved to this house, which I love. Cute. But here's the kicker is now I have one here because I have one that's up in my office, and now I can put one here in my glam. Oh, my God.

[Tana Mongeau]

That makes me happy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. Where did you even find this? Where do people find this?

[Tana Mongeau]

Online? Where did I find it? I was online Amazon.

[Trisha Paytas]

What were you. What were you looking at?

[Tana Mongeau]

I was just looking for Gerard Way. Things that you, like, maybe didn't have because you were so sad about not going to the concert.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I have to give it up. I feel better, like my friend. Oh, Justin. Justin Horowitz got me this shirt. He got me this shirt in Black Parade, and I was. He Ubered it to me. And I'm like, oh, my God, let me know how much I owe you. Also, the lines are, like, 12 hours long.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And they're super expensive. Like, I went to. I saw. I knew what merch I wanted. And they're, like, literally, like, $60 a T shirt. And I was like, let me know, like, how much I'll sell you. And he's like, this is my baby gift to you. And I was like, oh, my God. Okay. I literally met him, like, twice.

[Tana Mongeau]

I love Justin.

[Trisha Paytas]

And you were just saying he was with you on your birthday trip, right?

[Tana Mongeau]

He is, like, my favorite I didn't.

[Trisha Paytas]

Know you were close with that.

[Tana Mongeau]

He's so nice. We met through Jaden Hossler, of all people.

[Trisha Paytas]

That makes sense.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. And I just hang out with them, like, a lot. I just like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, he's, like, friends with him.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. He was, like, working on Jaden's music, too, I think.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. He does like music, right? I kind of don't even know.

[Tana Mongeau]

He's with Alex Warren now, too. He kills it. And he's so funny. I want him to have a podcast so bad.

[Trisha Paytas]

He would be so good. I know. Funny when he's here. Like I said, I've only met him once. I talked to him multiple times throughout the years. I want to say we went through, like, kind of Zach Zhang a little bit. Maybe.

[Tana Mongeau]

That makes sense.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Like, yeah. Yes.

[Tana Mongeau]

But then, like, yeah, all that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Anyway. But for someone I met once and I've only talked business with over the phone for years, I was just like, wow, that was so nice. He thought of me.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's so cute.

[Trisha Paytas]

He wanted me to go, actually. He actually was like, do you want to come with us? And I was like, yes, I would love nothing more than to come with you, but you're going to.

[Tana Mongeau]

I've been like, it's. I don't know why. I don't know why. That conversation, though, like, genuinely stuck with me so long.

[Trisha Paytas]

I've been trying to man everyone about. Like, it's like I'm being held captive and I'm telling people, like, help me. Like, it's like, not that serious. And I'm telling everybody as if it's like, my life is over.

[Tana Mongeau]

We always. Trauma dump. I don't know why this was like, that's our thing. This is a big one.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I've been doing. To anyone who listens, I'm giving me a stop. I think Moses probably, like, no. You act like you're so unhappy, and I'm not. Everything is good. Honestly. He actually doesn't care. He didn't say anything about it, but I just, you know.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, but I think that it's going to happen.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. I've come to terms. I'm at peace with it. You know, I think once you stop being bitter. Mm. Like, just in general. About other people too. Like, instead jealous. You just. You let it happen. And now I, like, I'm an appreciative everyone who posts, and I'm happy for people who are there. And I'm like, honestly, it takes a.

[Tana Mongeau]

Lot to get there. That's. I'm really. I'm trying with my you know, with Adam Sandler and all of that. Because what's the point? What's the point of being bitter about any of it? You know, we are so blessed.

[Trisha Paytas]

We did get in trouble on Just Trust talking about the Adam Sandler interview, so. Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Why?

[Trisha Paytas]

I think we were maybe too bitter. I was. I was more bitter by the time I saw you. No, you're in your. That's what it was. We did it before. Sorry. Okay. Hi, welcome to Not Loveline. But. Okay, bye, guys. Sorry. Call us. We're on a time crunch today. So when me and Tana got intoxic, we're like, let's just talk on the mic. It's just our. Yeah, okay. But anyways. Hi, welcome to Not Loveline. If you have questions, call here. We're gonna ask questions today. Go to our patreon. Patreon.com notloveline where we get explicit over there. And then thanks to our patrons, we have three. Or thanks to our sponsors, we have three today. Amazing sponsors.

[Tana Mongeau]

Our patrons are sponsors. Thank you guys for believing in us because we would do this for free. But we're happy we don't have to.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love you. Every time I sent Tana, like, anything about, like, money or anything like that, she goes, I would pay to do this with you. I was like.

[Tana Mongeau]

Because Trisha will be like, just so you know, it's so worth it. Like, here's this month's earnings.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm like, it's worth it.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, more than just like. Like, I'm not cash grabbing you. I'm so excited to do this.

[Trisha Paytas]

We always are doing it last night. This is Sunday. It's going up on Monday. And we've been doing it last minute. And I'm like. And you were great because you guys all also. There's like four people here, so we have to, like, remove everyone's schedule. Like a day over. We're supposed to do Saturday and Sunday, and it was my bed this time, so I was like, oh, my God, thank you.

[Tana Mongeau]

But, like, the baby, everything, we're just. We're getting back into it. You know what I mean? Like, we're getting back into it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love it, though. I know.

[Tana Mongeau]

Trisha's so funny too, you guys. Like, we were talking about a meeting that we might have later this week, and she's like, I just don't want to be like, I'm. I want to come. I want to make it work. Like, I'm just so. Mom, I'm so good.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm like, you had this baby yesterday a Month now.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, no, you had this baby an hour ago. In my head. Like, I just. The fact that you're already, like, down and back.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, because also that specific one, there's like eight people involved and everyone is very busy. Everyone is doing, like 5,000 projects and they're actually doing. Everyone's doing.

[Tana Mongeau]

But everyone is also so wildly understanding if you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know, but I don't want to be that one person, especially because it's like, yeah, it's like, super. I don't. Anyways, I'm going to try. No, I. Yeah, life has been crazy. It's just like, they're just so young and we have to have, like, people help us watch them.

[Tana Mongeau]

I can't imagine I would, like, pull my hair out and be so mean to Moa. That's, like, what I'd be so, like, worried about.

[Trisha Paytas]

I did Google last night, like, how to make a marriage exciting again. I'm like, oh, my God. I feel like we're being roommates. I'm like, how do we make it exciting? So I was like, googling everything.

[Tana Mongeau]

Had a baby a month ago.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, but it's been. I'm like, you know, I know, I know.

[Tana Mongeau]

I can imagine. Like, and with the hormones too, Like, I'd probably be.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Tana Mongeau]

Our spirit spark.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what I think.

[Tana Mongeau]

I do that a lot to Makoa. Like, if he, like, will bring me, like, breakfast or something, and he's just like, here's your breakfast. I'm like, our spark is gone.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, that would give me a spark back. I mean, Moses does that. Okay. That would give me a spark back.

[Tana Mongeau]

Because most.

[Trisha Paytas]

Let me just clarify. I have the spark because Moses does everything for me, but I need to start doing stuff for him because I'm like, when I watch Divorce, Tick tock, it's always people, like, he just wasn't giving me what I was giving, you know? But I feel like I'm the one that's not giving. And I'm like, I need to start getting.

[Tana Mongeau]

I get in my own head about that too. I'm like, I'm a lazy missionary sex. Like, literally. I'm like, no, same.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what I'm starting Pilates. I need to get back on top. That's my goal. We talked about that. I'm like, I gotta get on top by the end of the year.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, it's been three years.

[Trisha Paytas]

Pilates helped me get on top of Moses.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's really funny. Like, would that be a funny video? Because I've never done Pilates like, how funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. I should wait till we try together.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I want to, like, rent a studio. I want someone to give me all my friends that come with me to. I'm not about to be shaking on that reformer with strangers next to me. Everyone's good at it, right? That sounds like fraternity sorority hazing. Actually, hell no.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, like, just go with Ashley, who's like, super fit.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Literally that. I would rather die.

[Trisha Paytas]

But if we go together, I would.

[Tana Mongeau]

Love to do it with someone who's never done it. And then like an. An instructor who knows that I'm like, toddler level skill set. And then like, we could get good.

[Trisha Paytas]

But do you think we could do it at all? Because here's my thing. Remember, like, gym class. Like, like the ropes. You ever have to climb a rope?

[Tana Mongeau]

No, but pull ups. I was very. I was the same way I am now in gym class. I was hard. No, I literally, like, even at that time, I was like, I'm not.

[Trisha Paytas]

You never had to do a pull up?

[Tana Mongeau]

Well, they would prompt me to, but I was like, no, you never try. Because everything was also in Vegas in the summer, and it was like 116 degrees out. No joke.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, why in the summer you're going to summer school?

[Tana Mongeau]

No, just like, it's hot in Vegas from like, I guess there's some cold time too.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know. I feel like it's always hot.

[Tana Mongeau]

Ye just like gets so hot there. Like, that's all I remember is like running the mile. I wasn't but like, them telling me to and.

[Trisha Paytas]

What do you mean? You just said no?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

And what? They're like, let you pass. Like, okay, you pass.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, I. I would fail and like, and they would try. They'd be mad. But like, I just couldn't get behind gym class. I was like, what do you mean? I'm changing out of my outfit.

[Trisha Paytas]

You look always so good. So you're not like a fitness person?

[Tana Mongeau]

No, now I like, do things like, I'll get. I'll get on a treadmill and walk. I'll try to get my steps or like, swimming. But I'm. I'll never be like, a weight. Like, people are like, it's leg day. It's arm day. It's Tuesday for me and I want Wingstop. Like, it's like, I can't get the wings. I can't live like that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Honey, Combo is coming. Oh, my God, I'm so excited for the first time. That's so interesting. So I would be down because I think Pilates like, my. My makeup artist, he's, like, obsessed with Pilates. He's, like, so ripped in tone now. And I'm like, do you work out? He's like, no, I just do Pilates. I was like, sign me up.

[Tana Mongeau]

I love it because it's so full body, I guess. And, like, you just learn it and you do it, and it helps everything.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know I need to get, like, energy, so I really. That's, like, my goals. Do Pilates. So we should do our first class together.

[Tana Mongeau]

I would love to, because we could be funny about it then, like, I can't be in the. Yes, I would die.

[Trisha Paytas]

Let's literally set this up. Mean, like, I can't leave for a lunch, but let's do a Pilates filming day.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, but that would be so funny.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm 100%. We should do it. Yeah. So much fun.

[Tana Mongeau]

I would love to with you because, like, I feel like we would just make each other feel seen and, like, safe in that environment and, like, laugh and, like, not be like, I would love.

[Trisha Paytas]

I used to try to do a series. Series like that with Moses back when my flop era. Like, 2021. We would just try things I wanted to try. We tried ballet classes. We did, like, circus soleil classes. But it'd be so fun to do it with you.

[Tana Mongeau]

Whenever you are ready.

[Trisha Paytas]

There's a Cirque school we just watched the other day. There's a cirque school in Hollywood that teaches you how to do, like, trapeze.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

We did aerial silks, and I feel like I could do it again now. Better.

[Tana Mongeau]

I would be so mad at that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would love to try. Let's do it. Shows me, too.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, so much.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I don't love a circuit like Vegas, actually. But I love, like, Greatest Showman. Like, I like, like. Yeah, but like, a circ show in Vegas. You love.

[Tana Mongeau]

I love, like, yeah, like, oh, show in Vegas. Oh, my God. I don't. Have you been to. Oh, specifically.

[Trisha Paytas]

Specifically, I did, because that's Donny, ASM's favorite show when I was 14. He's like, Go, see. Oh.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I was always budged.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, no. Really? Okay. I don't know. I thought.

[Tana Mongeau]

Don't stand on it, because if you don't think, oh, bud, don't lie to me.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, I think it was 20 years ago. It's been on for, like, since I was at least 12. The show's been going. So maybe 25 years ago.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And maybe it's been budged since then.

[Tana Mongeau]

But then when I Just recently went, though, when I loved it, like, really recently, like, and I was like, it felt more budge now and, like, newer than ever, though.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're so cultured. What do you mean newer, though? Because it's like the oldest Cirque show.

[Tana Mongeau]

I just, like, they were having people do things that I remember all the times I've seen it, like, in my lifetime that they weren't doing. Like, people were just like. I don't know. They had lots of, like, gays, which I lived for. That's just budge in my head. That's like. That's what makes it a budget.

[Trisha Paytas]

You got gays in the show?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, they had, like. I don't know. People were doing these crazy flips into the water where I was like, you should be dead.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Tana Mongeau]

You should.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I think it's a little different, maybe. I also was really little.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, like, they were. It was like, literally, like, off the Empire State. How, like, far they were jumping. What do you mean? Like, they were like. I don't know how to explain this, Actually. The people were swinging up into the air and then going down into the water. But the amount of distance from the air to the water, I was like, you should die.

[Trisha Paytas]

I know what you're saying, right? How do they do that?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, like, you. You should break. I always get scared of that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, well, it's like high divers, like, cliff divers do that kind of stuff.

[Tana Mongeau]

And it's all in how they hit the water. Like, if you hit the water one wrong way, like, you break your back.

[Trisha Paytas]

That is crazy when people like, stunning people, too.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm always just like, loves that. I'm like, oh, my God. Why do you need to jump off that?

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, really? Why does he go on like Survivor or. I don't know what that is. He would kill it or something.

[Tana Mongeau]

He would kill it on anything like that. No, get him an agent and just be the one.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like, I'm signing you up. That's what I would be. Just.

[Tana Mongeau]

I should. Because he would be so, so good at that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Does he not have an agent for, like, modeling or anything?

[Tana Mongeau]

No, I, like, should do that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you not want to?

[Tana Mongeau]

I want to. I really do. If anything, I think it's the opposite, where he never wants me to feel like he's using me. But, yeah, we're at this point where it's like, honey, I know you're not using me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Therefore, use me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right? Yeah. You know, but that happens a lot. I think you like a lot of people in relationships, and, like, I Love this person. So they're not influencer. And then, like, over time, it just. It just. Moses, too. I mean, he's doing like 10 fish reviews now.

[Tana Mongeau]

You know, fish review era.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I do love it. At the beginning, I didn't, like, I was like, oh, that's like, weird. He was doing YouTube before me. But I like it because it's like. And even now, I'm the same way. I'm like, you're a good actor. Like, you should be in this movie. Like, I try and, like, get him auditions, but he's like, not about it.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I never want to go too tanager on him. You know what I mean? Too, like, really like, or.

[Trisha Paytas]

You always said it.

[Tana Mongeau]

I've always, like, I don't know, because I'll get like, even with my friends, like, with Ashley, I'll come home and I'm like, I have 19 ideas for you, and you should do this and you should do that. I'm kind of, like, pseudo helping her with things right now. Like, I get so inspired for the people I love. But then I'll be like, I've been manically talking for an hour. Like, you know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

And it's like, just maybe they want to chill right now.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, but I love that that means you're encouraging because so many other people, like you said maybe, would be like, no, don't do that. I'm like, the star or whatever.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm so passionate, you know, about seeing everyone I love win. It's like my favorite. That's what is life without that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I do love Ashes. I'm on her tick tock now. So I'm, like, very obsessed. Yeah. When I was looking for banana bread, Tina's like, ashley can make it. You put her up, girl.

[Tana Mongeau]

You want to make me die? And then be honestly for her. She's, like, doing a YouTube video. She's, like, making banana bread for Trisha Paytas.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, this is so funny. I put stuff out all the time on Instagram. Just, like, random. Like, who can do this? And my mom, like, literally brought up banana bread this morning. Moses. I was on his YouTube, like, finding something for Malibu to watch, and it literally said, like, banana bread recipe. Like, he was looking at banana bread. Like, why is it this particular thing that everybody was, like, so excited about? They're like, oh, I can make that for you.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I was, like, understanding that you literally just had a baby and everyone's at your beck and call. Like, if you post that you want banana bread, I'll become banana Bread, like, it was great.

[Trisha Paytas]

I've gotten four banana breads since then, so I've been banana bread out. But I was really excited.

[Tana Mongeau]

Butter. Do you put butter on it warm in the microwave?

[Trisha Paytas]

Butter? Absolutely.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's like, one of Makoa's favorite snacks.

[Trisha Paytas]

The Maui banana bread. Oscar brings it back from. He goes every year and he brings back banana bread. That loaf is so good. There's like. I don't know where he gets it, but somewhere. Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's probably just because the bananas are crazy. I was trying to get a banana in Maui recently. I was like, well, I walked over to this. This is like, the most Maui.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I love that.

[Tana Mongeau]

But I walked over to get some bananas and there were all these green lizards all over them. I've never seen these type of lizards before. They look like the emoji. You know what I mean? Like, they were like, so. And it, like, scared me.

[Trisha Paytas]

But wait, why? That'd be, like, lucky. I'd feel like, those are my bananas.

[Tana Mongeau]

I don't know. I just. I was like, I'll get a different banana later.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, really?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, I got scared. They, like, were big and really green and, like, making a home. Spiders. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Spiders are lucky, too. If you swallow spiders, it's good luck.

[Tana Mongeau]

Don't you swallow, like, a billion spiders a year? Me? Spreading misinformation.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think it's like eight spiders a.

[Tana Mongeau]

Year in your sleeve.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, my God, that's true. If I woke up to a spider in my mouth, Like, I'm. I don't, like, I don't want to be dramatic, but I'm ending it all.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, you would what?

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm ending it all?

[Trisha Paytas]

No. If you had a spider in your mouth, yes. Wait, really?

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, bugs are my biggest fear.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really? Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

By far. I would rather play, like, Russian roulette than, like, let cockroaches crawl all over. And I'm being, like, dead serious. Like, I'm being like, I. I'm being dead serious.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, they're not the worst thing. Like, I don't know what it is. Eggs in your ears or something. I've heard. But everything else, you're fine. Spiders.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, I can'. Watch clips of bugs. Like, MOA loves those nature shows, and I'll watch them with him. When it's a bug, I'm going like this. Like, I've done a lot of research on it because I'm like, my fear is so irrational. And, like, level 10, like, if there's a fly, I'm screaming. You know what?

[Trisha Paytas]

Do they say for. To do for it?

[Tana Mongeau]

Exposure therapy?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Start with the cartoons. Elvis loves this one called. It's just called Type in bugs kid songs. And she loves it. And it's just like, bugs, bugs, bugs, bugs. And it's like these cute bugs. Thanks. And she loves it. Elvis will get so excited and their bugs, like, flying at you into the screen. And she loves it. It's like grasshoppers.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I can't even watch a bug's life. Like. And that's a real cartoon. I've watched it, but it's. I don't know. I will try, though. You're right. I mean, especially with Maui. That's like the only thing in my Hawaii era that is not aligning era, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, it'll get there. You just. Like you said, the exposure therapy maybe will help, and I think it'll help. I love Maui. Especially, like, the little chickens. I think they're, like, lucky. You know when you go to, like, the grocery store and you see, like, Target, there's like chickens in front of the target.

[Tana Mongeau]

I love.

[Trisha Paytas]

I want to go to Maui now, too. You're really inspiring me.

[Tana Mongeau]

Let's go.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love Maui.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm in my. We have a place.

[Trisha Paytas]

When are you going? You do?

[Tana Mongeau]

I haven't, like, talked about it yet.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. Do you. Congrats.

[Tana Mongeau]

I. I do, but. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, really?

[Tana Mongeau]

I know. I'm like, I'm scared to, like, well, I'm done. Like, the escrow is over. Like, it's mine. I get the keys very soon.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, are you. We're going to lose you forever. Bye.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, no, no, no, no. I made sure it was like a very small. Because I was looking at houses, too, and I was like, if I get a big house here, like, forever.

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you get the place you were talking about? The, like.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. Congrats.

[Tana Mongeau]

I like Kenny. It feels like I. I don't know why. It's like, I. I paid for it. It's mine. And talking about it feels like I'm jinxing it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, I know. Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Do you know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. No, but that's.

[Tana Mongeau]

But it's mine. I'm going to see it for the first time in, like, September, I think late in September next month.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's like a weeks away. Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, my God. Just for a little bit, though. And we'll be stacked on love life.

[Trisha Paytas]

Honestly, when people are like, oh, I hope the loveline's going away, I'm like, whatever Tana wants to do, I don't care. It's here whenever.

[Tana Mongeau]

Mine is not going away. That's what we can put right here.

[Trisha Paytas]

Not going away.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, because it's the best I love doing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. I'm so happy. Thank you. Oh, my God. Are you gonna be like a full on, like, surfer girl?

[Tana Mongeau]

I know. I'm. That's. That's my goal is learning for sure. I've tried. It's really hard.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's. Talk about Pilates. That's a full body, too.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, man. You're gonna be body odded with Pilates and surfing. I hope.

[Tana Mongeau]

If I can do either one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. You're like Blue Crush.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, my God. So iconic.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's so cool.

[Tana Mongeau]

We were watching Lilo and Stitch last night and I was like, oh, I want to.

[Trisha Paytas]

The new one.

[Tana Mongeau]

I was like, I want to go. It's so cute.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really? Because some of you were, like, mad at the remake and I was like.

[Tana Mongeau]

I haven't seen the original in, like 10 years.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

So I. It. It wasn't like, because people were mad at the casting, I think, or something. I don't remember the ending.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think people were really upset because. Spoiler alert. I guess, like, Nani gives up Lilo and everyone's like, she would never do that in the original. Like, she lets the government take Lilo. Yeah, right. I haven't seen it.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, she, like. Well, I don't want to spoil it for you. I think it's a happy ending. Like, she. The neighbors are like family. And then, like, it's an older lady and she, like, takes Lilo in.

[Trisha Paytas]

But now he goes to the mainland and.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes. And she goes to college. But there's like a. There's like, Stitch helps magically for her to be able to.

[Trisha Paytas]

But also, like, no. Why would she leave her? I don't know. I haven't seen it. I don't know.

[Tana Mongeau]

There's a portal. Okay. Like, essentially, like, she can always be with them. Like, it's real. It's. It. And it's so cute.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then I haven't seen it, but he, like, drowns almost. And I just saw reactions of kids in the theater, like, crying when he's drowning.

[Tana Mongeau]

I was honestly scream, sobbing. But then he, like, he's. He's fine.

[Trisha Paytas]

But no, that alone is dramatic. I got. He was fine, but I was like, why would they show that? So realist.

[Tana Mongeau]

That is true. That is true. I was kind of like, okay, like, we get it. We got the point.

[Trisha Paytas]

Get so sad. Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Save Stitch. Now. Ohana means family. And family Means Noah gets left behind. I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what I'm saying. And is there no like Elvis references I heard this time at the very.

[Tana Mongeau]

End but I was waiting for some serious mon. I'm going to rewatch original Stitch cuz I'll probably be more passionate about it not being similar.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't even like know it that well. I just know we did that Lelo and Stitch party cuz I was trying to give an Elvis theme and I was like oh. And everyone's like there's not even Elvis in the new one. And I was like what? I thought that was the whole thing.

[Tana Mongeau]

Elvis stitch was everything. That's like going to be one of my first decors for my Hawaii place. I want a little Elvis stitch.

[Trisha Paytas]

We have 5,000 of them from the party. We had so many like leftover Elvis stitches. So if you want some. We have so many like we have a huge one. I'm like, we have all these Elvis stitches. I'm like where are we going with 5, 000 of these? So.

[Tana Mongeau]

I know, I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Tana Mongeau]

We love you, Ro. Oh, my God. But we love that. That's cute. How was your shoe? Yeah, my shoe was good. It was really good. I'm so excited for you to try this lip liner.

[Trisha Paytas]

Where is it?

[Tana Mongeau]

I know I keep saying that to you, but I want to, like, give you the full because, like, it's funny, it's all leopard. And I did that right as we started, not Loveline.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, I was like, I love it.

[Tana Mongeau]

It just like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, you was a leopard girl. You always were.

[Tana Mongeau]

That was like, I love leopard. And it's like we made the cutest little heart sticky for the back of your phone that holds it. And so I want to give it all to you and I want to give it to your makeup artist so you actually, like, get the full fantasy for sure. Like you.

[Trisha Paytas]

I definitely need them to apply it because I don't know how to apply lipstick to save my life.

[Tana Mongeau]

So you can do it.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was another video I wanted to do with you is I wanted you to show me how to do makeup because I think you were doing your make. Were you doing one recently in a video, your makeup? Or am I just like, probably or you've done them in the past, like the beat the face ones or something like that? Maybe Gigi was doing her makeup. Someone was doing Their makeup. And I was like, I really need to learn how to do makeup.

[Tana Mongeau]

I would love, because I do it in such a way for dummies. Like, not that we're done, but I just.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know makeup at all.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, really cream contour and take it there, and they're sculpting the face, and everything's clean, and there's 50 different. No, I'm using a brush from 10 years ago. I'm slapping it on. Like, that's what I need to learn.

[Trisha Paytas]

Because when I do makeup, I look way older. I remember I did one self tape where I did my own makeup, and literally, we were like, the people I sent it to, they're like, oof, we can't submit that. Like, it was bad. Like, I was, like, bright here and, like, orange here.

[Tana Mongeau]

They're like, who says that? Yeah, you tell them that you're a icon, and they should.

[Trisha Paytas]

It was. It was awful. And Moses was, like, sweet, because I was like, why didn't you tell me? He's like, well, I'm not gonna tell you your makeup looks bad. And I was like, but tell me, you know, because I thought I look good.

[Tana Mongeau]

You and I are so the same, because I'd be saying the same thing to Nicole. But then in the moment, if he said anything, I would, like, have a stride.

[Trisha Paytas]

And that's true for me too. I think that's why Moses knows. He's like, no, because you'll literally take. And I was like, but honestly, I do want him to tell me. I'm like, no, please tell me. Like, something looks bad. And it did. Looking back at the self tape, I was like, so now I always get my makeup done for, like, selfies, but it did look horrible. And I was like, oh, more people should tell me.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's so funny. I'm the same way, though. I'm always telling Makoa to tell me, and I, like, freak out. I was thinking about when we first started dating. Like, first started dating. I FaceTimed Makoa while I was getting my makeup done. And, like, Alexis Oakley does makeup in a way where, like, she puts these white eye patches underneath you and then, like, does the whole eye look, but all the eyeshadow will be on the white eye patch underneath. Like, it's. It's a very, like, trust the process vibe.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right, right, right.

[Tana Mongeau]

You know what I mean? Like, each step, like, it all comes together so flawlessly, but, like, they look crazy. And I FaceTimed him in the craziest step of the glam. Like, Just like a black makeup everywhere and like, whatever. And Makoa looked at me and he goes, you look like you're on your way. Like, he said, like, on your way, like, to the glam. Whatever. I lost.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's not bad. No.

[Tana Mongeau]

And he was going through TSA too. Like, the phone's going through. Like, he's stressed. And I. I bring it up to this day every time I'm in her glam try. I'm like, do I look like I'm on my way? Like, I'm such a about it. I know. And I like, I was insane. I was truly, like, certifiably insane to this day. Like, you look on your way.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, that's like. Yeah, that's.

[Tana Mongeau]

I was on my way.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, you were on the way to be. Is that what you were? Well, that's how mine is too. Mine. All the. It falls out. They don't do the patches, but it all falls out. So I look, like, insane. Like, I just have, like, black underneath my eyes, but then, like, when they.

[Tana Mongeau]

Until they wipe. Exactly.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. You look so pretty. Alexis did your makeup. So pretty.

[Tana Mongeau]

So she's just so, so talented.

[Trisha Paytas]

She really is. I know. Well, love for her. She's an influencer now, but I'm like, she kind of retired from.

[Tana Mongeau]

She really did. She's like, back into it a little bit now. But, like, yeah, she's killing it on her own. I get it. Like, I wouldn't wanna.

[Trisha Paytas]

I watch every one of her vlogs.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm like. I'm like, I wouldn't want to claim me more than once every in six months either. Like, I'm. My adhd. I'm the worst.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah. No, it's a lot. I know. She just text me, like, randomly and she, I would love to glam you just for fun. I was like, okay. Because she is, like, killing. I love her vlogs. I'm obsessed with her.

[Tana Mongeau]

I just love the beat. Like, it's.

[Trisha Paytas]

It looks. No, she is so. She did. She worked with Ash K Home. Do you know her? Did you ever do her get her makeup done?

[Tana Mongeau]

No, I've never had her do my makeup.

[Trisha Paytas]

She started doing me when she was in Houston, and I remember the first time she had Chloe and I was like, I'm losing her because she used to do my makeup all the time. Like, every day. She's been on my YouTube channel and then. Yeah, I remember the first time she did Chloe. They were looking for, like, local Houston people and she, like, flew back and I was like, damn, it. That is actually Jesus did at the same time too. And they both did, Ash. And then they like blew up.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, I love it. But also it's like, come back to me. She would, she would. But your glam looks so bomb. You have great people.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, yeah, I've been with Ari for so long. She's. And she's amazing too. She's done like everyone, like little camera stuff like that. But yeah, she's a mom, so.

[Tana Mongeau]

She's so fast.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, no, she's fast, which I love. And. Yeah, love glam. The thing I'm talking to you about is your. I was going to influence you for your boob job.

[Tana Mongeau]

You have to. Yeah, I'm not going to. To be honest with you. I was just kind of being funny silly, because.

[Trisha Paytas]

Were you though? Because I. Someone offered me a free one too and I was just like kind of want it, but I had to influence myself, so I was going to influence you. But tell me, help me. No.

[Tana Mongeau]

D Influence me. D Influence.

[Trisha Paytas]

But you said you were being silly.

[Tana Mongeau]

I. Like, I don't think I will because I think that I. This is me personally, literally, me personally. I don't judge anyone else for however they want to live their lives. I think it's. Who cares? We have bigger fish to fry than what other people want to do to their. Whatever. But my rule with myself for plastic surgery is like, if it is genuinely affecting my day to day life, the insecurity or the want for something different. That's why I got my nose done. I couldn't turn to the side without thinking about it for so long that it was like, let me put a hammer on this so that I can, you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Hammer on your nose?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, so that I can live life without thinking about it, you know what I mean? And I just don't feel that way about my boobs, you know what I mean? I'm not like. Like they. They could be something fun, but it would kind of be like going to get it like a latte, like, you know what I mean? It's not like I'm like at this place with my boobs where I'm like, you know, it's plaguing me.

[Trisha Paytas]

I feel like you've always loved your boobs. Like, I feel like you've always been confident because you. You have big boobs and dresses and stuff like that. Like, you seem very confident. Like, I was shocked you wanted them.

[Tana Mongeau]

I think it's just as you get older, you fluctuate more and then you kind of lose the same volume. I don't I still. I don't think there's anything, like, crazy wrong with them. And I'm also just like, oh, the Pam Anderson.

[Trisha Paytas]

The.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, it'd be fun to have some jugs for a minute.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. We both love that, like, playmate look. Like, yes, I'm up. I was obsessed with implants. Huge boobs, like, all of it. And then it was kind of going out of style, out of trend, and I was like, okay. So then I was kind of getting the influence. I was kind of like, oh, I kind of want mine out too, or whatever. And now it's back where everyone's getting big old boobs. And then I was like, I need mine back. But.

[Tana Mongeau]

And the idea of never thinking about a bra again is enticing. Obviously, sitting up there and not, like, shopping for your. Like, even stuff like this. Normally I don't really like. Because my boobs are more like. They're bigger on the bottom.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Than the top.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

So it's like, unless something is, like, doing that, they don't look as big. You know what I mean? Like, it'd be cool to just never, like, shop for your. Like, just everything slays.

[Trisha Paytas]

Everything looks great in them. Yes.

[Tana Mongeau]

But that's not enough of a reason. It's not. And then what if, like, I up my boobs?

[Trisha Paytas]

Me, Literally, me. My nipples are so. Because I got different nipple placements. I've gotten lifts. I've gotten augmentations. I've gotten nipple placements. Like, nipples.

[Tana Mongeau]

I also want to move a nipple.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Well, mine were, like, too big, so I got them down. It was size down. And when they size down, they, like, they're literally super uneven. When I say one's right here and one's, like, right here.

[Tana Mongeau]

I've seen your. Disagree.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, there. But you didn't. But it's your own. That's really high. Like, a nipple is always out. Like, someone's always like, trust your nip. Whatever. One's like, really high. And really.

[Tana Mongeau]

But my nipple. Yes. God would, like, like, tricked a little when he was putting the. Right down.

[Trisha Paytas]

Don't move your nipples. Whatever you do, do not move. I'm telling you. I really don't think I even can. Like, I couldn't breastfeed, I think, because of it. Because, like, the milk was not coming out of my nipples. Like, it did not come out. And I was just like, what the hell? And I think I was, like, so sad. Like, nothing. Like, it didn't leak after all three of my pregnancies. Like, nothing.

[Tana Mongeau]

No way.

[Trisha Paytas]

It could not come out. So I was, like, so sad I couldn't breastfeed.

[Tana Mongeau]

And then accidentally super glued them. Shut up.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think so, like, where's all that milk? Is it in there? Like, does it disintegrate my body? Like, what happens?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Second thing is, is the breast implant illness, which I'm like, have not gone to a doctor about. Yeah, I can. I'm kind of self diagnosing. But from everyone I've talked to who's had it, it like, physically makes you sick. Like, if you keep them in for over 10 years. This is my 10th year now. It can, like, leak into your body.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And you're like, hypochondriac. But I really. I swear I have it for real. And I never got it taken care of because I was pregnant so many years. I was like, God, I really need to take this taken care of. But everyone's been explanting. That's what they call it. Like, Crystal Hefner got it explanted.

[Tana Mongeau]

Bunny did.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right, Benny? Bunny. Bunny texted me. She's like, the best thing I ever did. She was like, so sweet. She was like, you, like, it's the best thing. She just. I don't know if she did her fat because she was telling me she was. You can get a fat transfer if you feel like your boobs are psyche, but she's like, they go back to their regular shape. She did it. Catherine McBroom. She didn't tell me, but I saw that she explanted with her mom, and I was just like, oh, man. This is kind of like Lily Glitchy explanted. Like, so many people did.

[Tana Mongeau]

Damn.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I think it really does make you, like, sick over time.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, I would just like. That's the thing is, it's like if. If I had an insecurity that was so bad that I'm willing to risk, like, my quality of life to potentially make it better. That's one thing. You know what I mean? But if I go and I get these boobs and then my life is more complicated, I would be like. Because, like, you didn't. You know what I mean? You didn't need them so bad that you're willing to risk, like, going through it.

[Trisha Paytas]

And that's the thing. And I'm sure, like, for the first five years. Good. But if you can't keep up with them every 10 years. And why would you want to keep up with them every 10 years? Like, everyone who's getting explanted is, like, either in their 30s or 40s, which is me right now. And I think it's like, are we gonna keep this up? Are we gonna get surgery every 10 years to, like, keep it up? And so I really think. Because I have to get my surgery soon, because it's 10 years, and I think it's, like, leaking, actually, and, like, slowly killing me. I'm like, please don't die. I know.

[Tana Mongeau]

Please don't die.

[Trisha Paytas]

Plans. Like, that's what I'm saying. How stupid is that? Like, that's what's on your obituary is. Is, like, leaked implant. I'm like, you dumb. And, like, yeah, I guess it is.

[Tana Mongeau]

You dumb, but also, like, I have an answer.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, you do? What's the answer?

[Tana Mongeau]

The body will eventually stop producing milk.

[Trisha Paytas]

Milk if, like, it can't. I think that's what happened to me. And your body will reabsorb any milk? No, it reabsorbs. I guess it's at least just milk that it's absorbing. But, yeah, Devin was saying that, like, it doesn't produce anymore, which makes sense because my boobs never got, like, huge during my pregnancies. My first one. Yes. And then my second ones, they never did, so that kind of makes sense.

[Tana Mongeau]

So wild.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. But.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. And then there's something about the foreign object of it all that freaks me out a little. Like, can you feel them?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah. Especially again, like, sometimes they feel like they flip. So one of mine feels like it's, like, flipping. Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, yeah. No, no, no. I'd like. I. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I can't go to Colorado or high altitudes anywhere. Like, whatever mountain. Like, go anywhere where you're, like, hiking and you. They gurgle. They jiggle. They gurgle like it's.

[Tana Mongeau]

Girl is the nuttiest word to describe that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Hear them like.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, swishing around like this with, like.

[Tana Mongeau]

A nose or like, something else that, like, it heals. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

And it's nothing foreign in your nose.

[Tana Mongeau]

Well, my ear is in my nose, but that's like. Like a whole other.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's part of your body. Yeah, because that's what they're saying. Like, if you take fat. I think Rosanna Pansino talked about this where she had, like, a fat transfer to her boobs. And so I think that's, like, natural because it's from your body. It's your ear to your nose. What do they do? Where'd they put it?

[Tana Mongeau]

They just put my ear in my nose.

[Trisha Paytas]

I don't know, like, on, like, a tip or. What is it?

[Tana Mongeau]

I Think the. Yeah, because you need cartilage.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Tana Mongeau]

And like the tip. And like. Yeah, that's why one nostril doesn't flare. I think because it's my ear.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, really? That's kind of a slay though. Mine flare way too much.

[Tana Mongeau]

Only one. Oh, yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Crazy.

[Tana Mongeau]

That girl, she's paralyzed.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy. Mine are so hungry.

[Tana Mongeau]

No. Oh my God.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wow. Yeah. Your nose looks good. No, I want another one.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's the thing too is it's just like. No, I'm not going to all of these things I'm saying. I'm just talking and I need to be better about that too. Like I just be saying.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, yeah, you really do. About the Tick Tock. I was like, girl, no. And like you said, like, I do think it's like. And the girls that are getting their implants now, I see so many on tick tock. Like, there's so many girls getting implants. It's like they're young, in their 20s. So I get it because like, I.

[Tana Mongeau]

Wanted the biggest having huge boobs is Pam Anderson, like being ginormous.

[Trisha Paytas]

And it's like I. I love it for them and they do look good, but.

[Tana Mongeau]

But it is. All the complications is like, whatever. And just if you change your mind too, I guess that's what's crazy is like, oh, I don't want big anymore. Oh, I don't want like. I just got this print though of Pamela naked and like they just like, I can't. It's my hyper fixation. Like, which picture is it? I. I don't know what it's from. It's just her like laying to the side and you're teaching. It's Pamela Anderson. Like, it's. You know. But I don't need to.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love her. We just saw a naked gun with her. It was so good. She's so funny. She's such a good actress. I love her.

[Tana Mongeau]

Mel.

[Trisha Paytas]

Liam Neeson.

[Tana Mongeau]

Liam Neeson. I was gonna say Mel Gibson. I need actually, like actually jail for that. I want them to be together.

[Trisha Paytas]

So, so cute. He's 73. He looks like he's 50. He looks so good. She's only like 54.

[Tana Mongeau]

The way he talks about her and looks at her and they're so calm. If it's just a pr. Like, like, I'm gonna.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's real. Are you sure?

[Tana Mongeau]

They could. They're actually dating, but they always wait.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really? They're like, we're in love.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm so happy for her. If so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's nice.

[Tana Mongeau]

I Love her. Like, I just, I love her whole, like, if she's over a relationship or she wants to be in one, like, she's gonna do it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, she said that. She's like, you know, I love being in love because people like, ask her about all the time she's been married. She had love being in love. And you have to be fearless to be in love. And I'll never, like, give up on it. I think it's so cute.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Her no makeup is like so empowering. And I love it because I'm a no makeup girly.

[Tana Mongeau]

So I'm like, so beautiful. Like, I think it would be so disheartening. Like, and again, no, I don't want to say that because, like, I'm trying to tread lightly with like my opinions on all these things these days. But I'm really happy she never like, changed her face, I guess, is what I'm trying to say. Like, it's very cool that you still see like all of the things there's.

[Trisha Paytas]

Anything wrong with that. Especially like when I was talking about like de influencing you with boobs. It's like, I think like, like you said, people are gonna get them. They're gonna get them and they're fine. Like, implants are hot. But I think so many people do feel pressured to get them. So I would try to like, tell people. The opposite side of it as someone who's gotten them is to be like, maybe you'll grant it when you're older. However, if you're gonna do it, I would say do it in your 20s. I mean, if you want to be 50 and have big boots.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm not going to. I think it was just more so that I like directly got offered free. It's one of those things where I more so was just like, can we talk about the psychology of this, like, knowing. And I like, I guess this is so like influencer of me to say. I guess I knew that I could have gotten maybe some if had I out reached, reached out to someone and done social promo and whatever, but I never had. And then now it's like this carrot, you know what I mean? It's like old me would have just been like, it, you know. No, I. I'm not going to.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm not opposed to anything because I've gotten offers too. They call like mommy makeovers. We get implants and a tummy tuck. And I was like, can I just get a tummy tuck in my implants out? Like, you know, because I'm not, I'm not opposed to post surgery either. Yeah, I'm super insecure about my belly right now because it's like extra skin, whatever. So, like, give me that tummy tuck. So I'm not, like, opposed to it. But the implants, it's one thing if.

[Tana Mongeau]

It'S like, you, you know, you want it and you're willing to go through whatever that journey is because of how bad you want it and want to change your quality of life and thinking I'm all for it, and you risk your life.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean, that's just being honest. Even like, having a baby, anything. It's like, my doctor told me that after I had my baby, of course. Because it is like a life risking thing. Like, you're literally risking your life. Have a baby, you're risking your life to do surgeries. Elective, you know, people. And some people, it's the anesthesia that they don't recover from, or it's the recovery, you know, there's complications after. So I think that's a big thing to note, not to, like, scare people. But for me, I agree. You know, I. I don't mind getting surgery every 10 years, but I'm like, do I want to risk it every 10 years? I have, like, a family and it's like, I have to do it one last time to get these implants out. But, yeah, I'm not about to get, like, new implants.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's so fair. That's so. Yeah. And just as you get older and you have so much more to live for, you are literally risking your life. It's so real. My nose job, I like, damn near bled out. Like, I was, like, spewing blood on the table.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. Oh.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, he said it was like a.

[Trisha Paytas]

Geyser during the operation. Yes.

[Tana Mongeau]

And then he almost didn't do it, but I guess I.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's crazy. They told you?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. I was like, okay, thanks, dude. Cool.

[Trisha Paytas]

And what did you say? Were you like, why did you tell me this?

[Tana Mongeau]

Had to. He had to be like, you lost a lot of blood. You were spewing. Because I think that he thought. He thought I was anemic because the only thing that stopped me from bleeding was medicine for anemia. So I don't.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, so they just took care of it there.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. But, like, then he was like, you should probably go, like, find out if you're anemic.

[Trisha Paytas]

And are you?

[Tana Mongeau]

I never found out. I take iron pills all the time.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was going to say, because I was anemic during my pregnancy, I take the iron.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. So you think I might be a little iron deficient?

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you ever have, like restless leg syndrome or anything where you feel tingly leg or anything at night?

[Tana Mongeau]

A little bit, but I don't. I think that's for my scoliosis. So that's like a whole other.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right, right, right.

[Tana Mongeau]

You know, the drama.

[Trisha Paytas]

Thank you so much to Tinder for sponsoring this episode. We love this one because it's all about the Tinder double date.

[Tana Mongeau]

I have been telling everyone about this. Changing the focus away from just the date to like, you and your friend doing something is so cool.

[Trisha Paytas]

Just having fun doing it. Plot, as they say.

[Tana Mongeau]

Exactly.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then you may end up finding love. Isn't that the best? We're not even looking. Like, I just did it for a joke.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then I was like, wait, but we fell in love and had kids.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Like that's so iconic. I feel like this could literally lead to that.

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Tana Mongeau]

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[Trisha Paytas]

Ooh, fun. I wanna be in a group chat with you and Makoa, me and Moses talking about water.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, yeah, we would literally just water.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would love.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm starting it tonight.

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Tana Mongeau]

So try the all new Tinder double date because everything is better with friends. Someone please try it and tell us.

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Tana Mongeau]

Thank you, Tinder, for sponsoring this. Someone please call us after the drama. Yeah, well, I'm about to get stem cells injected into my spine, which is.

[Trisha Paytas]

So what does that mean? I love it for you. I support it. But what is I love? What does that mean?

[Tana Mongeau]

I love it for you can't find.

[Trisha Paytas]

Ashton to do something with stem cells too.

[Tana Mongeau]

Everyone's doing something My chiropractor was telling me that that's what I need to like, not turn into the letter C.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay, so your back scoliosis. Your back. And that means you're born like this.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Tana Mongeau]

My spine is compressing slowly over time and it affects everything. That's like. Like when people really say your bones are connected, they mean it. And as I get older, I notice that it's like, oh, now my hip hurts. Or now my knee hurts because my hip hurts. Or like my shoulders and my neck hurt, which now hurts my jaw. Like, do you know what I mean? Like, yeah, it's slowly starting to like compress and impact like all my bones.

[Trisha Paytas]

And what do they tell you for that? Like, maybe Pilates will help it. Like what they said like, like stretching.

[Tana Mongeau]

Or lots of stretching. Lots of adjustments. Lots of. I do all these like weird water table things. Stretching. There's this one table where they strap my head in and then it like pulls my head off my body then goes back down. I have to do that. It's like it all your bones crack or what? Yeah. And just like it all. They use this like taser thing on my muscles.

[Trisha Paytas]

Feel like zap them.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Cuz then it hurts them a little. So then they reheal.

[Trisha Paytas]

What?

[Tana Mongeau]

And so I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, you were saying the scoliosis has to do with your tingle. You think the tingling.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, because you can go numb if like your. It's wrong. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

God. And you're just born that way?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, I mean, I had. My parents probably taken me and addressed it and doctors and braces and back braces and little things when I was younger. It wouldn't be as bad now, but like no checkups.

[Trisha Paytas]

You never did like a checkup at the doctor?

[Tana Mongeau]

No, I found out in school because they would do the scoliosis checks and that was like all I knew until I got money. But it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, we believe that they helped you. Or were you like, oh, this is.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, they don't help you. They. They're just like, you have scoliosis, Your parents should help you. I was like, thanks.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then they didn't.

[Tana Mongeau]

No. Yeah, they did.

[Trisha Paytas]

You went home, like, mom and dad asked school. I was like, okay.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Like, oh, that sucks.

[Trisha Paytas]

Really? Oh my God.

[Tana Mongeau]

My dad had scoliosis.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, it's like, get through it.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. But like different generations after that.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like, oh my God. I know.

[Tana Mongeau]

But it is like funny to me now I'm lucky to have money to be able to like, you know, Fix it.

[Trisha Paytas]

And.

[Tana Mongeau]

And that generation was also just so different. Like, everything was like, drink a glass of water and man up, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. That's for sure. Especially, like, mental illness, too. I'd be like, if there's something wrong with me, and they're like, just stop acting crazy. And I was like, yeah, okay.

[Tana Mongeau]

Exactly. Like, everything was kind of like that, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Which is like. And money. Like, we didn't have any money, so it was like, cool. What are we gonna do? You know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. Yeah, I guess I don't know how that works.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I never even thought about that.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's. It's so much. They didn't pay their taxes, so we could never have insurance, like, type of thing. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

And then you go to the hospital. Only because I had an uncle. He's not here anymore, but I had an uncle who, like, didn't pay his tax. And then they go to the hospital and he couldn't pay the bill, but they still, like, treated him. But they treat you.

[Tana Mongeau]

And then the debt collectors just come and come and come.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like, up. Yeah, it was like a system.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, it is a system. But I mean, like, I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, pay your taxes, too.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. And don't gamble all our money away when we have no money.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Because I guess if you're paying taxes, you're lucky because you're making money. So you should be paying taxes 100%.

[Tana Mongeau]

That, like, it was.

[Trisha Paytas]

But the gambling. Okay.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. My dad was so, like, the system. He was like one of those people, you know? And I'm like, you need the system. Like, you need. Actually, we really need the system over here.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Sometimes it helps. No. Are they okay?

[Tana Mongeau]

I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay.

[Tana Mongeau]

Well, I don't know. I hope so.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sometimes. You always wonder, too. Like, I don't know them, obviously, but just people in general. It's like, how are you alive? Like, how are you taking care of yourself? You know what I mean?

[Tana Mongeau]

I know. It's so crazy. It is, like, like, very wild to me. I. Sometimes, because, like, people have the luxury of being able to call their parents, you know, and, like, have help from their parents. And I won't ever really know that, but I think it also made me very strong. And I do have Deborah, and they're the best, you know, And I do. Yeah. And they, like. They do everything that parents do, you know, like, all the check in and the call and the advice, like, if anything. With my parents, too, it was like, I couldn't Call them for help. Even when we were in on speaking terms, if I called them for help, they would just need help from me or be so toxic or be so abusive or be so. You know what I mean? So. So it's like, even if they were in my life, it's not like I would have had the luxury of, like, a parental figure.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's better that they're just, like, out. Because now you don't have to, like, be their parent.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. And deal with.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

The being treated that way. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, of course. I wish they could have, like, helped themselves, I guess, but, you know, I had to eventually put that to bed.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

I tried, but I think that's. That's also so toxic for your mental as a kid, trying to get these people to help themselves that do not want to help themselves your whole life.

[Trisha Paytas]

Life, you know, like, my biggest fear is my kids thinking they have to take care of me or something. Because it's like, that's not what kids are here for. They didn't have to be here.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. It's one thing to, like, help, but it's like, oh, my God. I literally felt like I had two kids my whole life, you know, like.

[Trisha Paytas]

Which is not good. And you were so young.

[Tana Mongeau]

I was talking to this book publisher the other day that was like, talking to me about how she was like, the way that I look at your story is like, you almost went in reverse. Like, you had to be. Because I've, like, been talking to her about, like, the things I'm writing about a lot, whatever. And she was like, it's almost like Benjamin Button where you were, like, like young and you had to parent these people and, like, try to be the adult figure in your life. And then as you get older, you've gotten to, like, be a kid more and stuff.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I was like, that's so interesting.

[Tana Mongeau]

And like, now you're more innocent and more healed and more like, you know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

You just be more a kid.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

They call it kind of like in your feminine, where you don't have to be so strong. Like, you know, because it is good to be strong and independent, but sometimes a strong, independent person, you're like, I don't want to be that. I just want someone to also, like, help me in life, you know? And so.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. And I think just like, admitting. I think for so long, I wouldn't, like, I didn't want to admit people had done me wrong. I felt like that was admitting ending weakness and, like, not, you know, What? I mean, not my healing journey. Like, I couldn't be like, these people did me wrong. I had to be like, I'm strong. I've got me. I've whatever, you know? And now I can be like, no, wait. Yeah, all that. So whack.

[Trisha Paytas]

Especially your parents as a child, like, not taking you to doctor's appointments or dentist appointments or any of that stuff is. Is really sad. I mean, that's really sad because it is nice.

[Tana Mongeau]

It really is. 100. And having to fix all of that was so traumatic, you know, like. Like my veneers and all of this. I don't think I would have the problems I have now had I, like, had my teeth taken care of, had my hands taken care of. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

But no, it's actually allegedly, I should.

[Tana Mongeau]

Say, so I don't get sued. That's the other thing. Then they. They turned around and sued me. That was one of their big points in them trying to sue me, was saying that they never committed, like, medical malpractice.

[Trisha Paytas]

But you're like, where is the doctor visits? Like, so what did it happen? Just drop it? Just dropped it or what?

[Tana Mongeau]

No, I mean, we settled because I didn't want to. Because I didn't want to have to do it. Like, if we went to court, I would have had to be medical subpoenaed for years. And, like, imagine that trauma.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Tana Mongeau]

I think if I was who I am now, I would have done it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

You know what I mean? Like, I'm strong enough now to handle it. And it was also Covid. And it was all this, like, online court and, like, whatever, and, oh, my God. And I just wasn't mentally strong enough. I really wasn't. Like, it was killing me, truly.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God.

[Tana Mongeau]

I can't go to court with them and, like, do it. So I was just like, court period's hard.

[Trisha Paytas]

Court with your parents is the hardest. And then, like, obviously, Trump, reliving trauma is insane and then trying to fight.

[Tana Mongeau]

It and exactly prove it and, like, feeling like, oh, my God, people don't believe me. And, like, they have these lawyers and, like, whatever. And like, you know, it was just like. It was.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. That's actually, like, the saddest. I know you've talked about this before, but it's actually, like, crazy when your parents sue you.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, it was. I was like, you have to be kidding. I'll never forget the day I was like, you're lying. You know what I mean? Just, like, you have to be. But it like now I have so much peace with it because it aligns with like who they were. Like they all they ever wanted was money. And when they stopped getting money they were like, this is the perfect way. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh my God.

[Tana Mongeau]

So it's like.

[Trisha Paytas]

I mean that's so intense. And it's like they're like they're the ones that like were neglectful. It's not even like they're.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Which is. But also narcissism and neglect is so crazy because the narcissist truly believes that they did not neglect you and they are not this person and that you're painting them that way. You know, that's so scary.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

You can't win and you can't argue with insane people.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

You know what I mean? Like I know what happened to me and I wish nothing but grace and healing for them in this era of their lives, you know, now.

[Trisha Paytas]

But because you're there now. So I feel like now you can be like, yeah, yeah. Which is.

[Tana Mongeau]

And just holding on to it is. I've been seeing that a lot on Tick Tock. Like I've been. Jesse Murph released this song all about her father being an alcoholic and being abusive and all the kids left behind. I see a lot of Tick Tocks of girls like listening to the song and being like, I don't forgive my dad. I am angry. I am. And like I was there for so long and I see them and I get that. But I'm like, like I hope all of those people get to that point of forgiveness one day. Cuz it just like eats you alive.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, I feel like that's your. Yeah, that's your best takeaway and for your life is cuz I've never obviously experienced stuff like that. So I would probably be the same. I'd be like, how could you forgive your parents? So if you can be like the poster child for something that's a pretty good one to be for, it's because it's for you.

[Tana Mongeau]

It gets to a point where truly forgiving people that have done you so wrong is for you. You will just harbor anger and hate and like unanswered why. And like the true why is like these people are mentally ill and they can't. They're sick. Like you have to. I like look at it to me, mental illness that heavy to abuse someone else is like the same in my brain as like cancer. Like, like it's like you are so sick sick. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

How do you like evaded that, like, just not just being so mentally stable. Like, you are so wild. You always have been. You've never been, like, unhinged.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, I've been unhinged. I've been on really course. Of course. Oh, my God, yes. Whether it's addiction or being as.

[Trisha Paytas]

I didn't know.

[Tana Mongeau]

I don't know. Like, just as sexual, as wild as a feeling. Like, I needed the attention and needed this. You know what I mean? Being impulsive, being crazy, like, but I also look back at all of that, and it was like, yeah, because no one raised you. You know what I mean? Like, I had to societally, like, learn how to raise myself, you know, But I don't. I know. It is really wild.

[Trisha Paytas]

That makes sense. I mean, also, too, just seeing how young you were with YouTube, when we talk about all those people, past collabs with all the people you've collabed with and stuff at such a young age, and it's just like, yeah, no one was, like, helping you.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. At all. And that's like. You know what I mean? That's what's crazy. Jordan was like, the first person to ever help me. And that was even just like, a wild situation within itself, like, the whole thing. But it. I don't know. Yeah, it's crazy. Now I can, like, look back and I just have so much grace for that version of me because it's like, you were literally doing your best with the cards dealt.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's amazing. You, like, like, survived.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, truly. I feel that way now. I truly do. I'm like, damn, like, we made it here, like, by the hair on our chin, you know, you are so smart.

[Trisha Paytas]

I say this all the time. I'm like, you are so smart. The advice you give, you're just, like, so wise beyond your years. You're like, so. You're so together.

[Tana Mongeau]

So are you.

[Trisha Paytas]

So young.

[Tana Mongeau]

So are you.

[Trisha Paytas]

I'm trying. I mean, like, we're pretty much, like, at the same space, but I'm also 10 years older, so I was like, damn, I wish I could have been this 10 years ago. Kidding me.

[Tana Mongeau]

You have three lives that you were taken care of and loving and doing well. You inspire me so much because that is, like, my life's greatest goal eventually, you know, is to be the parent that I never had.

[Trisha Paytas]

I saw your tick tock. I said something like that. I was like, you grew up to be, like, the person who would, like, protect you as a child.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Made me cry because I was like, that is like, that's the goal, you know? Exactly that person.

[Tana Mongeau]

But to do it and to show up every day and. Because that's the other thing where it's like, you know, that's. Parenting is so hard. It's like putting everything that you're feeling.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

To the side to cater to and grow these humans.

[Trisha Paytas]

So it's so good for you. Or just, like, people like us, too. It's just like, healing. It's like, not even, like, healing your inner child like, that healing. But I mean that too, because you can, like, totally live life a different way and also. Yeah. Really look out for this person. But it's like, just healing the fact that, like, life. It slows you down, but, like, you need to be slowed down. Like, I live for me and not in. Like, I can't work, but, like, it, like, makes me slow down when I'm thinking, like, I need to do everything or do this or, like, get anxious or I feel like I have to have a breakdown over mcr. I'm like. Like, there's, like, children that are, like, depending on you. Like, you can cry for 30 minutes in the bathroom, but, like, get out there and, like, make them dinner.

[Tana Mongeau]

You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

It's good for you, you know? Fulfillment.

[Tana Mongeau]

You know what I mean? The fulfillment of, like, making them have a special holiday without any heartbreak or a special dinner without. Or just. I can't wait for that. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, always been my goal. Because I never had, like, a Thanksgiving or Christmas with anyone. Like, my parents are divorced. It's like going to my dad's for Buca to Pepo and then my mom for this. Like, you know what I mean? Just not having that like, every year. I just want them to come to the same place in the same house and, like, have a dinner. You know what I mean? Like, that's always been, like. That's so interesting.

[Tana Mongeau]

And just joy, like, you know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Just joy.

[Tana Mongeau]

To associate these things with, like, joy. Like, I can't wait to do that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. It's. That's the best thing. It's.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I mean, I hate it all these. The holidays. Because I go visit my dad in California, and I was like, gotta go to Chinese restaurant and then catch his girlfriend.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. And it's just, like, negative vibes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, it's always been negative. I'm like, I hate holidays.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. I had to really, like, rewrite the holidays for me because, like, growing up, I hated them so much, you know, Because I was just like, something's gonna happen and gonna feel like it Wasn't until like Amari's family really like, did show me that they can be good and it like, re inspired me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh yeah. Now you go to their house.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And then you'll create your own.

[Tana Mongeau]

I know. And I can't wait. I literally can't wait.

[Trisha Paytas]

I guess that's how people like, shout out to the people with the dogs. I guess people who have dogs feel that way. Cuz I'm like, it's like you're like raising something. I never had animals, so I don't know what it feels like. But I'm like, I guess that's kind of the same. Probably fulfillment is like, oh, raising this.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm responsible for this thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

Responsible.

[Tana Mongeau]

Watching Ashley with Winnie, it's so crazy. Winnie, like, like all over the walls the other day in our house. And like. And I mean, I mean it. All over the walls. It was brutal.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, and she just cleans it up and she's.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, she's got her Hazmat suit on. Damn near doing it. And I was like. Because I love the perks of that Winnie. Because I'm like, I get to pet her and hang out with her and she's in my house. But like, it is a kid. It's like a. It's like a baby kid. It's not a baby, but you know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. I was gonna say, oh, I don't think it can handle that. But I guess when my babies did that, they don't poop on the wall. But I guess that they did that, that I'd be cleaning it up.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

They are helpless. I mean, they're kind of like. Well, they can't do it themselves.

[Tana Mongeau]

Sorry, Mom.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's what I think about the kids for anything. I'm like, well, they don't know. You know what I mean? Like, even like toddlers and stuff. Like, they. They don't know how to handle their emotions yet. So they have like, tantrums. Oh, I feel. I more feel sad. I'm like, I'm so sorry you can't control your emotions right now. I wish I could help you right now.

[Tana Mongeau]

And they're so big. Their emotions are so big.

[Trisha Paytas]

Ms. Rachel helps. They have a song called like, Big Feelings are okay. And she like, teaches them how to deal with like, their big feelings.

[Tana Mongeau]

Where was Ms. Rachel?

[Trisha Paytas]

I know, I know. We would have been a people.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes. That's so true. Big feelings are okay.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Who raised me?

[Trisha Paytas]

Did you watch tv?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes. I'm trying to think about like the first if I watched a lot of Full House I definitely wished, like, yes. So much full House because it was the opposite of my scenario. You know what I mean? Like, I'm an only child in this, like, broken, dark, sad home, and I'm watching, like, this big, like, Danny Tanner. He cleans everything. He's the best dad. So a lot of full house. I wanted that. I wanted Danny Tanner to be my dad so bad. Hannah Montana. I wanted to be like her. That was the, like, where I wanted.

[Trisha Paytas]

To shout out Hannah Montana and then what, you wanted to be, like, a pop star?

[Tana Mongeau]

I. I don't know. I just, like, same situation, you know, she's got Robbie Ray, this loving dad, and her brother, and they're. They're all there for each other. And, you know, she's pop star by day and Miley by, like, I was so inspired.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, I date Robbie Ray.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, no, no.

[Trisha Paytas]

Out there now. Billy Ray Cyrus. He's. He's dating Elizabeth Hurley now.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I was like, wow, look at him just getting all these hot girls.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's crazy that. That their whole situation's very crazy, you know? And I'm just. I love seeing all of the women in that family thrive, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, were you. Have you been on their podcast? The.

[Tana Mongeau]

No.

[Trisha Paytas]

What is it?

[Tana Mongeau]

Is it, sorry, we're stoned, or am I missing maybe. Oh, sorry, we're Cyrus. I think it is. It's good. I've seen it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I watch.

[Tana Mongeau]

I just watched the one with Miley, and it was so good.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love their podcast. I love. They have, like, influencers on.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, they kill it. They really do kill it. I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Sorry, we're still stoned.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, Sorry, we're stoned. Yeah, they're stoned.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, really?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, they're stoned.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like, that's what it. That's what it's about.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. On Apple, it does say sorry.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's crazy.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's both. I'm so excited to see Miley. Whatever this Hannah Montana resurgence is.

[Trisha Paytas]

Okay. Yeah. I'm getting into the Lord now because Mike Lamb was like, oh, my God. Because there was, like, a wig or something. Like, what's happening? The wig has been tweeted. I'm like, what wig? And then I can't. I'm like, what. What do you mean? Like, what does this mean? And they were so excited. So I'm kind of, like, getting into the Lord.

[Tana Mongeau]

I would cut off my foot for whatever it is.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, you had a theory before we started. You were talking to Devin about what your theory is.

[Tana Mongeau]

I think she might, like, on some, like, Taylor's version. She might. Miley's version, the Hannah I Would die.

[Trisha Paytas]

What does that mean? Miley's version. Like, like, record.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. She has so many songs that were. As Hannah Montana. Specifically, like, Best of Both Worlds is Hannah Montana. Whereas, like, the Climb is Miley Cyrus. Like, whereas. You know what I mean? Like, like she. Which I can't imagine the mind. I could, like, go so deep on that. That psychology between, like, being two people.

[Trisha Paytas]

But I was like, a TV show.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes, but she would tour as Hannah and, like, you know what I mean? And imagine all your fans are kids. So everywhere you go, people are like, hannah, Hannah, Hannah. And you're like. You're like, I'm Miley. But then she's also playing Miley Stewart. Like, she was literally three people. She was Hannah Montana, Miley Stewart, and Miley Cyrus. Like, I can't.

[Trisha Paytas]

Miley Stewart.

[Tana Mongeau]

That was her character on the show. Like, she was Hannah and Miley.

[Trisha Paytas]

Why would they hear the same name?

[Tana Mongeau]

I don't know. Maybe to make it more authentic. I think it's good for the viewership to make it, like, more authentic. But I can't imagine for her chick.

[Trisha Paytas]

Who am I?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes. Like, the.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, my God. I'd be tripped out if someone gave me a character name as Trisha, but I'm like, yeah, like Trisha Tarantino. I'd be like, wait, but who's Trisha Paytas.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes, exactly. Like in the. Anne. In your formative years. Like, your formative.

[Trisha Paytas]

Was she.

[Tana Mongeau]

I think when she started, she was probably, like, 12 or 13. She was younger because I remember she was. She was, like, too young for the role. Like, everyone else who was auditioning was much older. But then they were like, no, you are Hannah Montana. And they, like, changed the role around her and made her dad her. And your dad's your own dad. Like, in the show.

[Trisha Paytas]

I even think about that.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, I just can't. And Billy Ray, Robbie Ray, like, it's all this, like. Like, alternate pseudo reality that people believe.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, why did they do that? That's so weird.

[Tana Mongeau]

I know. It's crazy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Do you think he was the star? So they were like, oh, bring Miley. Or do you think he latched on to her? Was like, okay, but me too. I want to be in this.

[Tana Mongeau]

I. I think it was probably, like, she wanted it and auditioned for it. And then they were like, oh, my God, this is perfect.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, do you think they were, like, impressed by Billy Ray?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes. And, like, the. The addition to how different it is.

[Trisha Paytas]

Now where people are like, oh, he's kind of. I don't know how people receive him. First of all, I love Billy. I think. I don't know. Maybe not. I don't know if he's problematic. Anyways, he was a big star in the 80s, so I was like, yeah. When she started, maybe they're like, oh, this is impressive. But now, again, I don't know their relationship, but, like, a lot of people talk bad about Billy Ray Cyrus, like, in general. So.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, I think that.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right. Okay.

[Tana Mongeau]

I think he wasn't Robbie Ray as a father, but, I mean, she. You know, I don't know.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's hard, I guess, like, when you have, like, a celebrity parent. I always am like, God, that'd be, like, so weird.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, and that pedestal, like. Yeah, the.

[Tana Mongeau]

You know, especially when you're on some type of sitcom show like that where you're, like, put on this pedestal to be this. And then in reality, you're a human being with problems. You know, same as, like, Bob Saget. Like, he wasn't Danny. Like, just all of those type of.

[Trisha Paytas]

Right. Yeah, I. Yeah. I think that's why we had this discussion again last night about, like, I'm not. I don't think I'm gonna let Malibu audition for anything. So she's like, 18 or something. Because I just think 12 is still too young to be on, like, a TV show like that. And, like, not really and not knowing.

[Tana Mongeau]

Where it could go. Like, Hannah Montana was truly the biggest cultural phenomenon. It's the biggest thing Disney's ever seen. Like, for sure.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, know.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's. It was so, like, imagine your daughter wants to audition for this role and you're excited for her and it's going well, but then all of a sudden, she's the biggest celebrity in America. And it's all like. Like, she. Miley did this interview where she was talking about what her schedule was like at that age. And, like, I have goosebumps thinking about it. It was like, not a. M. Like, at 6am Midnight every day.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, how is that legal?

[Tana Mongeau]

It probably wasn't, but, like, it. Imagine Disney and all of the opportunities and all.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I guess there's, like, loopholes where you can, like, emancipate yourself and then you become an adult, and then you can technically work the hours and all. Like, I've heard other people tell those stories, which is, like. It's just sad because at the day, like, I do think, like, you should, like, get to be a kid, even if you want to be, like, I wanted to be so famous at, like, 6, but it's like, I would have been so bad, I think, even if Matt was like, I really want to be in movies at, like, 6. I'm like, I don't know. I still don't think I would.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. It's, like, one thing to let her live out the fantasy if she wants to do that and go, like, be like, a extra in something. Yeah. It's, like, fun. It's another thing to be like, you're the star. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

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[Tana Mongeau]

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[Trisha Paytas]

Definitely not. Like, what size am I? What looks good on me?

[Tana Mongeau]

I don't know what goes with what. What color palettes, like, all of that. Y' all know, I don't know if.

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[Tana Mongeau]

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[Trisha Paytas]

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[Tana Mongeau]

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[Trisha Paytas]

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[Tana Mongeau]

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[Tana Mongeau]

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[Trisha Paytas]

I know. Even Jojo, which I, like, love, even though she thinks I hate her. I love Jojo, but I feel like she's, like, always, like, Trisha's so mean. Like, I'm like, I love you. I'm always, like, actually feel for you. Like, I feel sad for her upbringing. We talked about last time, you know, obviously the bleaching of the hair and all this, but also just being on with Abby Lee and just all that stuff. I'm like, damn, that's like a lot.

[Tana Mongeau]

To be 100, you know, though. And I can't imagine I. I saw this a lot, even firsthand with Bella Thorne and, like, learning a lot about her childhood. But, like, all of the child stars that I've been friends with and stuff, it's so crazy that, like, I'm 11, but I'm. I'm paying all the bills.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. Right.

[Tana Mongeau]

You know, and I'm. Your new car is me and the lights are me and whatever is me.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I don't like that.

[Tana Mongeau]

And even I can't. Even if your parent was the most accepting of if you did or didn't do it.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

There's got to be some psychological weight of, okay, but if I don't do this, like, no one's eating. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Palmer talks about it and she's well adjusted, but, yeah, I don't like any of that either. And even us, like, I would be able to afford it to, like, quit and, like, do it full time with her and, like, not have to take any money, but still, just that something about earning money that young when it's like, you have to do it the rest of your life. I just don't know.

[Tana Mongeau]

And the relationship with money, like, just. It does. Like, that's one of the biggest things of being a kid. That's another thing. I can't wait for my kids. Like, I feel like money was such a big problem and thing, and I was so convinced it would fix everything because of how much fighting and turmoil happened around money, that it. My relationship with money when I then had it. You know what I mean? Because I was like, I thought it was the be all end.

[Trisha Paytas]

All right.

[Tana Mongeau]

And it, like, it's not.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And then you get the money. Like, okay, this isn't like, the solution. You Know. Yeah. That's why I work hard. Because I just don't want my kids to know about money at all. Like money problems or having money or like nothing. Just like same. Be able to like eat your food.

[Tana Mongeau]

And 100% and just. And never feel. Because that's the thing too is like when parents are fighting over money and you're a kid and you cost money, it's like no matter what what they say. Not that mine were nice about it, but I'm saying regardless, like, you feel the weight of that.

[Trisha Paytas]

You know, I didn't like testify against my dad when I was like 14 to like get more money because like, well, she costs more than 500amonth. And I'm like, I'm so sorry.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like I remember like something about the food we ate and I like, of course, me being fat. I was thinking like, it's because I am fat.

[Tana Mongeau]

So wild. Yeah. That like that psychology of being. Being a burden.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

At such a young age, like, that's. Oh my God. I just. I truly hope my kids never feel like a burden.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. And I think that's what's cool about the next generation kids. They probably don't because like your generation, my generation's all like trying to be better. It's like dads being more present in their kids life with this generation because like their dads weren't present. So now all the dads are like so present in their kids life. Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's like wonderful and Moa and Moses, like just having men who like really.

[Trisha Paytas]

Want it to want to be. Yeah. Parents. And it's the best thing in the whole world.

[Tana Mongeau]

I know. I can't wait to see him be.

[Trisha Paytas]

Parents who want to be parents. Oh my God. Yeah, that'd be.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm so excited.

[Trisha Paytas]

You guys are gonna be so cool. Like little beach babies. Just family.

[Tana Mongeau]

His values are so good. Like, even when I just say certain things, I'm like, I'm not against iPad. And he's like, I'll take them out to play more. Like, I'm like, you know, he's like, he's. He has very like almost traditional, like older values kind of. Not in a bad way. Not the bad ones. No, the good one.

[Trisha Paytas]

Great. My dad was over here yesterday and he. My. They were eating cucumbers. Cucumbers and carrots. And then he made them like broccoli for a snack. And my dad's like, oh, it must be like Moses's culture. And I was like, no, I think it's just like giving Your kids Fruit and vegetables.

[Tana Mongeau]

Literally.

[Trisha Paytas]

He's thinking, he's like this whole other. Like he grew up somewhere else. I'm like, no, it's just eating healthy. Which we never did.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's good. That's good.

[Trisha Paytas]

You definitely need someone who. And it is good. And I don't eat them. And I need to start because I know I'll be like, you should have some. I was like, oh, we're both on that.

[Tana Mongeau]

Mokoa is so much unhealthier than me.

[Trisha Paytas]

But that's good that Lily says your. Your kids will be cuz you'll have that influence.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, he's unhealthier than healthy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. What does he eat?

[Tana Mongeau]

He eats a pint of Hoggin das a night. That's not a joke or exaggeration at all. I'm not kidding. I hear that scrape every single night. What? He like all day. Moa eats so bad.

[Trisha Paytas]

Wait, really? Oh, okay.

[Tana Mongeau]

Well isn't that like diabolical?

[Trisha Paytas]

Hey, if it works. And honestly like we grew up on fast food. I mean granted I'm not the pinnacle of health, but some people just can't. But you look great and so does Moa. So obviously it works for some people.

[Tana Mongeau]

You know what I mean? But I. No, I could be toned. I could be much. I could definitely be so much healthier. And I'm always fluctuating because I'm like, you know what I mean? I'll like binge and be crazy. Like yeah, I need to definitely be.

[Trisha Paytas]

When you have kids, it'll be different. Cuz even me like I like, I like eating fast food with you. But everyone thinks I'm like this fast food eater. They're always like every time they see me like let's eat fast food. And I'm like, I don't really care to anymore because like now we like learn to cook other things. Like I love like chicken and like the stuff he makes. Like but I think it'll change too. When you like.

[Tana Mongeau]

And that feeling of a home cooked meal is just unmatched.

[Trisha Paytas]

Even if it's just like pasta or grilled cheese or. Or anything at home, it just feels like yes.

[Tana Mongeau]

100. I can't wait for that too. Like home cooked meals.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's the best. It's a good air. I think you'll get a cooking air. You should do that for a series.

[Tana Mongeau]

I know, I know I need to cuz I have the tools and I have actually like truly, she could teach me.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's so true. And you have like a nice kitchen. When you have a nice kitchen. When we moved here. Oh my God. We start cooking all the time. Cuz we're like, oh, it's a kitchen.

[Tana Mongeau]

I know. I really should.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, like. But it's still fun. I love eating wing stop with you too.

[Tana Mongeau]

I know. It's the best. That's. I need to delete UberEats. Do we take a call?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes. Let's take a car.

[Tana Mongeau]

I also have to pause body.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, go.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm sorry. 10 minutes left of recording for this.

[Trisha Paytas]

Stop it.

[Tana Mongeau]

I love you. And I love me and you.

[Trisha Paytas]

And I know stacking you'll do more questions? Yeah, Yeah, I just. Yeah. Yeah. It's just we, like, see each other. Like, how was your week? Okay.

[Tana Mongeau]

And it's just that we could never, like, truly. We could like, go for 12 hours if you gave us, like, crack.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, actually, I know.

[Tana Mongeau]

Or like, some math. Like, we would. Not that we're going to, but I'm just saying we would literally, like, talk for five minutes.

[Trisha Paytas]

After we had the hot dog on a stop. Sick. I was like, oh, I could keep going because I had so much energy.

[Tana Mongeau]

I went home and like, told everyone about that. I was so excited that we had hot dog on this day. Everyone keeps asking me to go to the fair. I'm like, no, I wanted the food. I had the food.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, wait, you need to go to the fair though. That would be good.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, I just, like, hate rides. So more about the food.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, that's true. Go pee. Okay.

[Tana Mongeau]

Okay, we're back. I went potty.

[Trisha Paytas]

You're getting a piano.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm getting a piano. Did you find that out?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, it looks like. Like, who's getting a grand piano? Who's getting a grand piano? And then she was like, oh, Tana. I was like, tana, does he play?

[Tana Mongeau]

Do I already have two? You know, Makoa brought me home like, a keyboard the other night, and I was like, I have. I have a standing keyboard. I have like a flat keyboard. And now I'm getting a piano.

[Trisha Paytas]

Piano's crazy.

[Tana Mongeau]

I know, but I love it. I always wanted a grand piano.

[Trisha Paytas]

Me too. That's why I was like, wait, I'm so jealous. They're so big and they're so loud and I, like, want one.

[Tana Mongeau]

But I think it's just like, I'm trying to furnish my whole upstairs. It's like the final piece.

[Trisha Paytas]

I saw it. She sent me a little map out of it. Oh, it looks good.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I love playing the piano. Like, it just does something for my brain.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was like, okay, Adele.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, no, I was playing an adult. Yeah. I'm not good. I'm not good at all. But I want to learn.

[Trisha Paytas]

The fact that you can play a song and people recognize it is pretty good.

[Tana Mongeau]

I mean, it's. It's fun too. It's really fun to, like, learn songs on the piano. And it's just like. But do you know it takes 10 years to be even good at the piano?

[Trisha Paytas]

No, like, because, like, little kids take it, I feel.

[Tana Mongeau]

But, like, to be, like, what pianists classify as good, like, is actually like a damn near decade of your life. So I just want to start now. I want to get really, really good. And I'm like, really debating re entering my music era. Like, I called someone on the way over here and was like, help me make a.

[Trisha Paytas]

To me that. I thought that wasn't even a question. I was like, no, you're doing, like, everyone on TikTok is demanding it. Like, I feel like you love it.

[Tana Mongeau]

To me, that's like, I'm finally at a place where I've made peace with my past music eras and I want to kind of try again, but I have no idea what sound I'm like, I want to make a song with my friend who makes punk. I want to make a song like a country song.

[Trisha Paytas]

Beyonce just doing all the genres.

[Tana Mongeau]

I need to like, find out what if I were to do it and it were to be campy, what the sound is.

[Trisha Paytas]

I like campy. But I also love. If you like word is like, real, like, piano singing like you're. You have one. The FaceTime song that you have.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's pretty. That's very pretty.

[Tana Mongeau]

I don't know. I just. I also want to see for, like, my skill set.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Which is not Adele. Like, it is.

[Trisha Paytas]

Very few people are. But you are good. You are talented.

[Tana Mongeau]

But what would be the most beneficial, right? Like, for like, what I am capable of, like, what genre. What type of type would be the best with my skill set versus, like, sounding like on a type of song.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think whatever you're passionate about, you should do because, like, I love Broadway and clearly they make vocals are not Broadway, but I will still always do a Broadway cover, for sure. But I also think, like, you were kind of on it. Like, you said you like different genres. So, like, try and see what, like, people like or what you like. So if you do a country song and you do a punk song and then people like, oh, this is your sound, you know, then you just go.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, I think it'd be fun to have the Internet in on all of it too. You know, like, which one do you guys like better? And whatever. Because I'm to about to have some more free time. So I'm like. And of course I'm like, how can I fill my free time? It's like, just take a breath.

[Trisha Paytas]

But to me, music is like. It's like I did tell this to Moses too, because I want to start doing. I want to do more music too. And again, yeah, no time. But I'm like, it's almost like therapeutic meditation. Like it's a fun hobby and I miss that.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like the, the fun of like sitting in a studio with friends and like deciding what to write and like up and laughing and like. It's also a more of a night thing. It can be like, I love a late night.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's like our song will never get made because you're at midnight, you're recording.

[Tana Mongeau]

Vocals at 4am so am I. But it's like different.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

That is like you woke up. I'm going to bed.

[Trisha Paytas]

Actually. 4:00am yeah, you're going to bed. And then 6:00am I'm up. So I'm like, be like, here I am.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, that's so funny. We should. I. I really. I want a Tana Trisha ep.

[Trisha Paytas]

I think we definitely.

[Tana Mongeau]

But obviously we. We have a lot right now. You and I are really like.

[Trisha Paytas]

But one song's not bad. Like we do a song and it's like, whatever. It's part of your era. Yeah. Yeah, I agree.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, I might like really be cuckoo and try to put that on the schedule and like a month.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I'm done. And I, I am the same way. Where I'm just like. I just. I love doing it. I'm like, I gotta make it. It's like Pilates. Let me just make it a priority cuz I'll feel better about myself.

[Tana Mongeau]

And some music comment down below what you think the hook of mine and Trisha's first song should be. I'm serious. Like, I need.

[Trisha Paytas]

It should be something with like tea. Like I'm having iced tea. Like we're like, I don't know. What's another tea pun? Double teas.

[Tana Mongeau]

I like like spill the tea.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like a drama channel.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. We could go. Whoa.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah, I don't mind it.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh my God. You're the cocoa to my iced tea.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, that's cute.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like the guy.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Whoa. Okay, comment down below, let me know. I will say I want to go like super broad.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, I wish.

[Tana Mongeau]

I wish the word wasn't so I know.

[Trisha Paytas]

Censored.

[Tana Mongeau]

Because I would love to do a song with you about just, like, serving, being. Sorry, Jimmy.

[Trisha Paytas]

So many bleeps.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. But like, you know, like something camp, like tea. I also want to talk to you about the psychiatrist drama, but I think I'll wait till the next episode. Oh, have you been seeing that? The lady in love with her psychiatrist?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yes.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I think that we would have funny takes on it or just, like, interesting takes. Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

You want to wait? We can.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Because I feel like it's a long conversation. Right.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. The whole next episode is that be like, where's. Where's the question?

[Tana Mongeau]

We're taking calls the next time. I'm sorry, you guys.

[Trisha Paytas]

Well, Patreon will definitely take calls. Oh, yeah, Go there. Which are patrons out calls. Yeah. I swear. But we are gonna start stacking. Not too much, but a little bit. And then I think if we did a second one. Yeah. And then we'll take more calls.

[Tana Mongeau]

We just. We get excited and we lose track of time. That's the biggest thing, if you ask me. How long we were podcasting for just now. Like, I would say 10 minutes.

[Trisha Paytas]

Should we take a question for, like, one minute?

[Tana Mongeau]

Should we A speed one? Yeah. Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. I love that. Sorry, guys. Last episode really took one so to have two backtrack episodes where I skipped.

[Trisha Paytas]

To the 1 hour and 15 mark for our question.

[Tana Mongeau]

The episode's 1 hour 17. Here we go. Okay. I'm excited.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's gonna be a good one.

[Tana Mongeau]

I love the calls too. I don't want anyone to think I love the calls.

[Trisha Paytas]

No, I do too, but we just, like, never can talk to each other because we're just busy.

[Tana Mongeau]

We're obsessed. I'm sorry.

[C]

Hi, Trish. Hi, Tana. So I know I called the slime a lot to raise, but today I'm just feeling really insecure, and I need some advice. So I'm 21 years old, I'm in college, and I'm going into my senior year, and I feel like ever since I got to college, I just gained so much weight. And I know it's normal, but, like, it just sometimes feels really disheartening when you have to buy a new pair of jean short shorts and active wear shorts every single year because you go up, like, 10 to 15 pounds. And I just ordered these shorts from Target because I thought they fit me when I tried them on, and then I realized they were too small. So now I have to go back and get, like, a bigger size Again, I just need some advice because it just doesn't feel good. But yeah, I love you guys.

[Tana Mongeau]

We love you so much.

[Trisha Paytas]

That was like story of my life. Same. It's like always like you buy something like, oh my God.

[Tana Mongeau]

And it's so crazy that we like put. Because I do this all the time and I put my worth in if I can fit in these shorts or jeans that I didn't have like whenever ago. You know what I mean? Like, it literally, it's like a made up thing.

[Trisha Paytas]

It's made up and like sizes vary. Like I can be a size 14 in Old Navy but a size 18 in Abercrombie. Like so your mind. Yeah. And like you said, it's like also, it just sucks. I always think this about size. Like, just sucks that our size is like your, our worth is based on our size and not how. Because like I don't feel great. But then it's always like, well, damn, I'm a size 16. Like that's fat or whatever, you know.

[Tana Mongeau]

Which is so crazy. Like societally because that's all it should be. It should be how we feel. I also will just say that she was saying she's 21 and if you are 21 and fully secure, you should run for president, you should go be in NASA that time of your life. Life being fully secure at that time is like damn near impossible. You know, like, especially in today's society with like everything's regressing so much back to this like, oh my God, heroin chic. And this like, which is like so unattainable and like so ridiculous and like.

[Trisha Paytas]

The, the skinny phenomenon that's happening, like unnaturally skinny, right? People are just like naturally skinny. Is, is very, it's very sad because like, of course I would want to look like that too. But it's like such a, a, it's, it's, it's hard to sustain and hard to obtain and it's just like not realistic for a lot of people. So it does suck. Especially influencers or just celebrities. Everyone's so skinny. Like the normal person in everyday life does not look like that. I just went on a 35 city tour of the United States and like most people don't look like that, including myself. And it just like sucks. And yeah, we all look like people.

[Tana Mongeau]

And then there's these like, standards that are met, like, meant for us to never meet. You know what I mean? To keep us in this rat race. Like societally, every, everything that we consume is meant to make us feel less than, like Especially now, you know, and it's just like, oh, my God, it makes me so sad. I feel like I have days where all of these things eat me alive as well. You know, the comparison, the insecurity, the beauty standard, the, you know, all of these things eat me alive. But then I have other days where I'm like, you know what? I'm me and no one else is me. And my uniqueness is like, what is to be celebrated here. And I mean, mean, I was just talking about this. I feel like I've been talking about this a lot because I'm really trying to change it because I notice myself, like, faltering to all of this so much. But, like, how you look is the least interesting thing about you, you know? Like, I bet she's so funny and lights up a room, and it's so smart and all these other things that are actually important, you know what I mean? Versus a number on a scale or a pair of shorts or whatever it is. And it's like. But the world does not want you to feel that way. Like, you know what I mean? So I think it's like, when you have those days, just be like, I'm having that day.

[Trisha Paytas]

Day.

[Tana Mongeau]

I feel about myself today, and maybe tomorrow I'm gonna wake up and really try to say some affirmations and put on. We all have that one favorite clothing item that we do. Like, how we look in. Put that on. You know what I mean? Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

I would say we have no idea your size, so you could very well not even be big. Maybe you are. I don't know. But, like, so many people, too, at, like, my mean girls, like, I, you know, thank you. You help me. I feel so fat. I'm like, first of all, I'm like, that's crazy. What do you mean you're fat? Like, it's crazy. But even if you are big, first of all, all, as a big girl, I would say dresses are a fun option. When I wear shorts and I look, I. I put on some shorts as of recently on my podcast, and I have to open that top button, and I feel fat and I feel gross. But as soon as I put on. Old Navy has these really cute dresses right now that I wear as soon as I put on the Old Navy dresses that cinch at the waist and stuff like that, and it's, like, very forgiving. I'm like a large in Old Navy. Like, usually I'm like a triple XL and, like, fashion nova Old Navy. I'm like a large, so I feel very tiny. The dresses fit really nice. So sometimes dresses too. Not to say you can't wear a.

[Tana Mongeau]

Dress for that reason.

[Trisha Paytas]

Shorts. Yeah, Yeah, I. My shorts now are like size 18s when I was like, whatever. But either side. Also, can I say sizing up feels great in the sense that like you don't have to squeeze yourself in when you find that's the worst size. Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Cuz no one knows. We don't know your size. So you know, whatever you are, get the size up. It makes you feel. I feel teeny tiny whenever I get the right size. Like, wow, I'm the same way in this.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, I'm the same way. And it's like. And then you find those things that you do love how you look in them and you vibe and been like, it's. I just can't stress to you enough. Like, not all days will feel like today. You know what I mean? Not all days. And you're 21, like, you have so much more time to come into your identity of self. And truly, once you realize that everything being fed to you and marketed to you, like on social media, online, even in life, in culture, in college especially, is a whole lot of bull.

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

And like is meant to make you feel this way and like, you are so beautiful and like celebrate what makes you unique. Truly, I think that's the biggest flex these days. Everyone's trying to look the same and.

[Trisha Paytas]

But yeah, that's to me, that's so boring. And I think you'll feel like you said 21. Obviously you're 27, so six years of difference. And you were saying that you have some days. 27. I'm 37. And truly, I don't ever have any bad days about how I feel about myself. The only time is like when there's like someone on Ozempic. I'm like, maybe I should take it. Because everyone's taking it like that's the only time. But then I'm always to the same answer. Like, I don't really, really need to because I'm like, pretty. I'm like very happy. And I like the way I look and I like the way I dress. So it's like, I don't really need to. I want to do Pilates to like feel better. Like I was saying like, to like be able to get on top of my husband again or something. But it's not about like weight to me. It's more of like, I just want to be strong and be able to like lift myself and like, you know, also be with my Kids. I also want to lift that.

[Tana Mongeau]

How much more powerful is that? Like, I'm strong versus I look this way.

[Trisha Paytas]

Oh, yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's. There's just so much more to life than how you look and.

[Trisha Paytas]

And what you weigh.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Trisha Paytas]

And you won't feel like that forever.

[Tana Mongeau]

Because you really won't. Like, 21, to me, I feel like, is like. And your early 20s is just the peak of that because you don't have your sense of self. You're still forming your sense of self. You're a baby in so many ways, you know, you're still forming even just, like, what your sense of self is to then even love it. You know what I mean?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. You don't know the comparison. And at 21, I was always under 200 pounds, from 21 to, like, 30. And then I was starting to get over 200 pounds. But I would never trade my life or how I feel now about myself or to go back to that body size I was in 2019. I was, like, very skinny. I was like, well, to me, it was 170. That's skinny for me. I'm like, 250 now. And I would never go back to that because I, like, look at myself in 2019, and I was, like, so, so sad and so miserable, and I was like, never. Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like. And when people like, you look so amazing, and you're like, I'm dying inside, and it's so crazy that that's what you associate with, like, being happy. Our society so dying.

[Trisha Paytas]

I was actually dying 2019. I remember I was very, like, a lot thin for me, but I was like, yeah, doing drugs with people, you know?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Like, all the worst people. And so it's like, yeah, it's. Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Just take it day by day. Like I said, find that clothing item, that thing that makes you feel confident. Confident. You know what I mean? Tell yourself things you love about yourself. You have to do all the corny. You have to say the affirmations. You have to, like, take a hot selfie. You have to, like, literally do all the corny things. Put the food in your body and under. Make your relationship with that more. Like, this is nourishing me. This is making me smart and strong and powerful and, you know. Yeah. Dopamine, literally. And just know that all. All of the things around you in society and online and stuff are made to make you. You feel. And once you kind of accept that it's like.

[Trisha Paytas]

And size up. Just get a bigger size. You'll feel better.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Trisha Paytas]

Size too big, and then you'll feel really skinny.

[Tana Mongeau]

I love doing it.

[Trisha Paytas]

I love getting, like, a size 20. And then I'm like, wow, I'm so tiny. I'm swimming in these shorts.

[Tana Mongeau]

Exactly. It's all. And isn't it crazy that that is, like. It's just such a simple, like, switch of perception in reality versus, like, my. The lower this number is, the better I am. Like. And think about how many are a zero. And they're literally like, personality of a blender. They're like. They're. It doesn't make them.

[Trisha Paytas]

They're, like, sick lame. But people who do, like, oz epic will be like, yeah, I'm sick for, like, one day a week. I'm like, absolutely not. I'm not giving up one day a week of my life to, like, lay in bed and be sick. Like, no.

[Tana Mongeau]

I just. Yeah. It's like, you. And you got this also college, like, they call it the freshman 15 or the fresh whatever, for a reason.

[Trisha Paytas]

You were.

[Tana Mongeau]

You were working on something so much bigger. Your future and your brain, and that matters so much more than your jean size, you know?

[Trisha Paytas]

Yeah. That's a great question. I love that.

[Tana Mongeau]

We love you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Glad we answered that one.

[Tana Mongeau]

Me too. I'm glad. I'm literally so glad we answered that. We should take more calls.

[Trisha Paytas]

We should take more calls. If you want to have more calls, we're going to patreon. Patreon.com. not loveline. We post every Friday. It's really popping over there.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Not to be, like, a sales woman, but the Patreon is so lit. Like, I. I die on that hill. You would. If you go over there, you're gonna be. We just put it all out there.

[Trisha Paytas]

That's where it's at. It's where it's at. Lots of updates coming there. So thank you guys for watching, and we'll see you in the next one.

[Tana Mongeau]

We love you.

[Trisha Paytas]

Bye.