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Tana
Spring just slid into your DMs. Grab that boho. Look for that rooftop dinner, those sandals that can keep up with you. And hang some string lights to give your patio a glow up. Spring's calling, Ross. Work your magic.
Trisha
I remember getting asked to be on season one of the Kardashians and it was like 2007 or something. I was on LA casting using, like, you being a chat wife is like an insult. It's like, meanwhile, you're like such girl boss. But it's like if you did, like, want to do traditional wifey things.
Caller
Yeah.
Tana
Like, it'd be my first time in my life life doing it. I could probably and get this benefit from doing them. I should learn how to run a dishwasher.
Trisha
Okay, you guys, before we start the episode, go over to patreon.com not loveline for extended podcast.
Tana
I'm spilling too much over there these days. I just told you all about my spicy life.
Trisha
Will we go in? And if you want to go in, go to patreon.com notleveline today and call us here. Devin is taking calls on top of questions as well. He's always checking this hotline. So we. We're getting those updated calls because we don't want to, like, leave you guys hanging out.
Tana
We love you. Hello.
Trisha
Hello. Oh, it look feels like after dark in our lives.
Tana
I know. You look so good.
Trisha
You look so good.
Tana
If you are listening to this episode of Not Loveline in the car or like in your headphones and you're not visually watching, I would highly advise you to go watch the video version because Trisha Paytas looks so good.
Trisha
I think emoji looks good. I was trying to match this freak over here. So.
Tana
Good.
Trisha
Because I was going to help today. No, you're talking about British Amina Mari and it was literally like, no, there's like, okay, so Bridgerton, right? There's like the women of the ton, right? Like, like a gentleman has to marry, like, a lady with, like, nobility. Right? So they're giving, like, you know, gowns are giving all this.
Tana
But how you look right now, most
Trisha
of the men, and this is in season four, the person he loves is a maid. Most of the noble men will take, like, a mistress, but they still pay her and give her like a fab, like a fabulous lifestyle. But, like, they're the hot, sexy ones and you're giving mistress.
Tana
No, you are. You look so. I love these robes are my favorite thing ever, by the way.
Trisha
They're, like, fun. Yeah.
Tana
Even like, you mean Holly did A look in them once, like, no matter how you're feeling. And they have them on Amazon. Like, I don't know where this one's from. I'm just saying, like, you can get them from anywhere. No matter how you're mentally feeling, if you put on a robe like this, you automatically feel mentally better. I feel that way about, like, pajamas, too. I always say that. Like, that's, like, literally a hack of mine. Like, if I feel depressive or, like, weird at home, like, I'll put on a cute robe like this. Or, like, pajamas. I love, like, that because it just
Trisha
like, oh, if you take a shower and then you put on a matching pajama set, Like, I literally. We've been talking about decluttering. I literally threw out anything that's, like, not matching. And I'm like, I only want to wear, like, matching pajamas. And I feel so much better. And I would have. No, I like to wear. Because I have the one piece on underneath here like yours, but mine was showing a little too much nips. But I would have been right there with you because I love. That looks better. Cute.
Tana
No, this looks great.
Trisha
I'm your Southern grandmother. Like, hey, doll, what's Southern? That's not Southern.
Tana
You are.
Trisha
Why can't do this with action. Hey, hey, hey, dollar. Hey, darling.
Tana
Hi, darling.
Trisha
I don't know why I can't do something.
Tana
How you doing, darling?
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Tana
Yeah, there you go.
Trisha
Where's those pickles we were talking about?
Tana
Oh, I would love a pickle. Trisha PIs. I love a Southern accent.
Trisha
Wow.
Tana
I would do anything to have a Southern accent.
Trisha
You sound so.
Tana
I think the Southern accent is, like, the cutest thing in the world.
Trisha
And Cracker Barrel, those rolls.
Tana
Did we.
Trisha
Oh, me? Yes.
Tana
Didn't we go?
Trisha
Did you come with Holly? No. In camera.
Tana
I don't know. Oh, no, no, no, no, I didn't.
Trisha
Never. I love those rolls.
Tana
I could just house 50. I am like, oh, my God, we're so hungry.
Trisha
We just ordered food from Vegas.
Tana
So I'm the girl in the world. Nothing can stop me. Not medications in my bloodstream that are meant to stop me. I was just put on this earth to be a hungry girl. You know, they have those TV dinners called Hungry Man. I. We should make Hungry Girl.
Trisha
That's so smart. Well, we put a little filet mignon, a little Mac and cheese in there. Oh, we should. We should put, like, a little mini mastros in the frozen section. Even.
Tana
Like, do you remember the. The. The ones that were 99 cents? I used to Love them so much. Banquet. No, but these ones are intense with the smiley face. French fries. Are those banquet? I used to love those ones that
Trisha
were the blue box with the penguin on it.
Tana
Kids cuisine. Those were campy, but tasted like 3D printed. But as a kid.
Trisha
Love. I kind of loved it. A little chocolate pudding in there and stuff. It'd be so.
Tana
And like a little brownie. The cosmic brownie. I. I'm not even kidding. I think right now, if you handed me, like, an envelope, I would eat it. Like, if you handed me, like, like, that water bottle, I would start trying to gnaw away at it. I am a hungry girl. So shout out to anyone else out there. Hopefully you're enjoying a meal with this episode of Not Loveline.
Trisha
Yeah, you deserve it. You deserve a meal today.
Tana
Yes.
Trisha
If you have an eat, here's your reminder.
Tana
Yes. It is so true. It is so true.
Trisha
Sometimes people need it. Right? Yeah, you do deserve to eat. In fact, you don't even just deserve it. You need to eat. Because we're human beings. I think some people are like, I deserve this treat. It's like, no, you need that to live.
Tana
It's so important to remind yourself of that sometimes, too, if you, like, struggle with food at all. Like, I just had this week in Cabo, and I. I definitely was, like, binging, though. I took it too far. I gained, like, 10 pounds across, like, seven days. I was like, oh, my God. Because it's like, I would finish dinner and be like, I'm, what? What next? Like, an insatiable amount to shovel. Professional shoveler over here.
Trisha
I feel the same.
Tana
And I came home and I've just really been beating myself up about it. And, like, just everyone has had to be reminding me, like, okay, that might have been too far. It was too far. But, like, there also is the reminder of, like, food is nourishment, food is dopamine, food is memories, Food is a binge eater.
Trisha
My entire life, I've been to. Literally, like, I've been to, like, binge rehab therapy. Like, I've been to camps, all these things like that. And they do say that. That, like, no matter how bad your binge was the night before, like, you have to eat the next day. Like, obviously, that's the whole point of, like, binge eating is, like, you binge and then you don't.
Tana
Yeah.
Trisha
So, yeah. Because it's always a fresh start. Maybe, like, yesterday was mine. Always happens, like, late at night. Like, I won't eat, like, the whole day, and it's like, Five to nine. I'm just like, well what is that called? Intermittent fasting. I'm like, well, I'm intermittent fasting.
Tana
So then I love saying that.
Trisha
Pizza Taco Bell just like coming my way. And you're just like, well, I mean, cuz the theory behind that is like how many calories could you possibly eat in like a three hour eating window? And it's like that answer.
Tana
I'll show you.
Trisha
Yeah, a week's worth of calories. 3,500. Like I could eat so many calories, you know 3,500 calories are in a pound.
Tana
What?
Trisha
I know. I was eating like 7,000 calories a day and I was like, no wonder I was getting £2 a day way.
Tana
Oh my God, me in Mexico. That is so interesting. It is. I've been trying to just like even just after getting home, I try to just like switch my food vibe to more nourishing. Like even for dinner last night I was like, let me lead with a rotisserie chicken and like some hot sauce on it and just like get a lot of protein in. Like I started becoming more. But that's the thing. I still flip flop. That's why Manjaro helps me because I should just. I like to be consistently one thing. But that's very Harry.
Trisha
He just said his guy dinner was rotisserie chicken. Did you see that?
Tana
Did you see like the new viral. Like I saw a news like clip of the news about this but like like boy dinner kibble. They're calling it Kibble Kibble.
Trisha
And.
Tana
And it's like it's not kibble but it's like just when they make ground beef and rice. Like that's boy dinner.
Trisha
That is boy. Oh wow. I didn't think about boy dinner, but that is very boy.
Tana
Yes. Makoa loves boy dinner. He's always just cooking like meat and rice. Like and loves it interest actually. Yeah.
Trisha
That's Moses too.
Tana
Yeah. And. But then I take whatever he makes and I add like 2 tablespoons of sour cream and like hot sauce. Like the same thing. If he ever makes us dinner, I feel like I will de healthify whatever he makes. Like if he makes like chicken and vegetables and rice, like I'll sprinkle some cheese on top and throw it in the microwave and then eat it.
Trisha
Like I enjoying what he cooks. Well, this will cook something. Like he'll spend like hours cooking like chicken and like veggies and like make a soup out of it. And then like literally on the side he puts like noodles on the side for like Malibu and Elvis. I'm like, I just have some of those noodles. You know what I mean? Yes.
Tana
I am like, I definitely gravitate towards the things that are bad, but I'm trying to just at least nourish my body.
Trisha
This week I got a little be better at nourishing. I don't know what kind of foods nourish. I feel like I do better eating less. I just don't know if I'm nourishing.
Tana
That's the thing. Because that used to be how I was where I would like be binge eating and then I'd be like, okay, I'm eat. I'm going to eat the lowest calorie. Like, like I would revert back to like, like literally attempting starvation if I'm really like thinking about it. And it's like, you can't do that. That's an unhealthy roller coaster to be on. So I think that to like silence my brain after I've done like eaten bad quote unquote in my head, I try to like be like, okay, let's just focus on nourishment. Like, what, what vegetables can I have? What like, you know.
Trisha
Oh my God. That's like breaking news for me. I have been eating like an insane amount of broccoli lately, which I honestly do feel is helping me.
Tana
Yes, you need to crumble up cheez its in broccoli.
Trisha
That's crazy. We're like, we love to be healthy. You're like, actually get those but like
Tana
do things like that where I'm like, okay, I'm gonna have this big bowl of broccoli, but I'm gonna take like 10 cheez its and crumble them in it so I still feel something. And at least I'm not just housing the box of cheez Its okay, but like it gives a little bit of something in there and it so good.
Trisha
Yeah, a little balance. I guess I do that when I go to India. I get the protein style burger, but I'll get like a regular Dr. Pepper, not diet. And I'll be like, wow, I can just have balance in my life, you know, so that's.
Tana
And I need to just. That's what I need to possess consistently. And I just like, I'm, I'm trying and failing a lot and, but still just trying to stand back up like once I can possess a consistent eating style with like occasional reward. Looking at like a big thorpe meal as a reward, I'll be good. But a big what? I love thort big Thor. Thor is like. Thor is like, I'm thorting if I'm eating a box of crumble cookies alone. Like, I'm sorting. If I'm like, crumble cookie has yellow cake this week. Should we order it?
Trisha
There is one I love. When we did the doordash, I literally was like, do you want a double dash crumble? I was like, actually, yeah.
Tana
And I love double dash.
Trisha
I know. It's like, they're gonna.
Tana
I gotta run away. I'm folding.
Trisha
Wait, you didn't know that? Oh, yeah. They always, always double dash it.
Tana
Yes.
Trisha
And at EMC now, you can get, like, a big bag of popcorn. This big. Like, it's like, so big. There's like. So anyways, doordash is so great. Do you like crumble like that?
Tana
I do. I don't have it a lot, but I do like it. There's one in Hollywood. Why do I think it's also called Juniors? Amari Junior's cookies. The little ones in Hollywood. Insomnia. It's not insomnia. I don't know. But they're so good.
Trisha
I always see insomnia cookies on, like, doordash too. I'm like, so what's that? It always sounds like a ghost kitchen. It doesn't sound like a real place. Like, insomnia cookies. Because it's always, like, late at night. It's, like, open, and I'm like, what is that?
Tana
And now I'm out of my two Dr. Peppers and I need more. Oh, my God.
Trisha
Oh, I have. Not the kind you like. It's. It's that weird flavor kind.
Tana
Which flavor?
Trisha
It was like, the strawberries one.
Tana
That's what I love.
Trisha
You do? Let me see if we have one.
Tana
Oh, you don't have to get up. I don't. I don't need a third.
Trisha
No. Okay.
Tana
So sweet. Immediately telling me, I'm okay. I love you.
Trisha
Well, it's like, my kids, they, like, freak out when they spill something. It's fine. Yeah. But then I read something. God, parenting is just so crazy where it's like, actually, you're not supposed to tell them it's fine. Be like, it's okay to feel these emotions. It's like just rather than dismissing that they're upset. And I was like, but I don't want them to freak out. I'm always like, it's okay. But I guess you're supposed to say, like, like, it's okay to have this,
Tana
to have these emotions.
Trisha
Yeah.
Tana
It is so interesting how much more knowledge and tools and different things like, are available now than in any other generation, obviously. Like, but it also, like, okay, this is about Buster, my foster dog. So, like, let me shut up for a second. But, like, at the same time, I've noticed that I've been feeling such immense guilt, like, because it's like, even if I'm doing all the things to take care of him, I'm like, was Mommy present enough today? Was I. Did I play enough today? Like, did you have enough fun today? Were you outside? Are you, like, thriving? As. Even if I do everything? And it made me realize, like, as a parent, I. Like, how do you avoid guilt? Like, how do you, like, like, do you ever have, like, mommy guilt, mom guilt?
Trisha
Yes. I think that's, like, so common. And it's like, yeah, I have. I have to read a lot of, like, inspirational. I post it all the time on Instagram. Stories, like, inspirational memes. It's like, a lot of moms, like, Hillary Duff will talk about it and stuff like that. It's like she. She wants her kids to see, like, a mom that's happy and, like, living her dreams and, like, going after things she wants. It's like, you have to make yourself happy first. Maybe we talked about this. I don't know who, but something along the lines of, like, it's like on an airplane, right? It says to put your oxygen mask on before assisting a child. Because it's like, you have to be fully good before you can, like, raise and be around a good person.
Tana
Like, that's a crazy analogy.
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Trisha
Right? Yeah, because it's like, you have to make sure you're okay in order to, like, save your child and help your child. So for me, I prioritize working out. I prioritize going to therapy. I prioritize doing something I love, like, you know, a Disney Day or something like that. And it. Yeah, it just means asking for help and. But it's. I. They get a much better version of me because I'm not tired. I'm, like, so energetic. I feel like I'm fulfilled and somehow. And so then, like, on the weekends and at night, or whatever. The days off. We have Thursdays. I can go to dance class and gym class and cook and do all this stuff with them and. Because I do that other stuff for myself. But if I always had to be just mom moan. That's your whole identity. I mean, I think it's fine if that is. But, like, you shouldn't feel guilty because you're a person.
Tana
You know, it works for you.
Trisha
Yeah. And at the end of the day, the kids just, you know, they just. They want to feel loved. And like, I spent as much. Like kids do want. Kim Kardashian said this. Like, kids just want to spend time with you. So, yes, I do make it that a priority as well, obviously. But, yeah, you don't want to if you're gonna be just so worn down and strung up by your kids. And your kids feel that, like, they never once feel that they are like a burden or I'm stressed out by them because I'm always chill. Because thanks to Moses, thanks to our village, thanks to everything, I can meditate, I can do all this stuff. And I'm always like, mommy's here. We're happy. Like, today went to the park, and I have so much energy knowing that I was gonna do this today with you. I was like, oh, my gosh. I got up this morning early to glam at like 5am I'm like, let's go to park. At 7am we got them Spider man outfits. It was freaking 100 degrees out, but I'm like, we're gonna go play Spider man at the park today. And, like, so much energy. Oh, yeah. Every time they come to you, they.
Tana
Yeah, we play Spider Man.
Trisha
Yes. They love to put you in webs.
Tana
And that's so cute.
Trisha
And that's what we did. We actually got them like, Spider Man. Oh, I'll show you. And then we put Elvis in this Incredible Hulk outfit. Let me see.
Tana
Oh, that's so sweet. She's eating her greens in her greens. Oh, my God, she's getting so big. I always tell Makoa, like, every time I get home, I'm like, Elvis grew more like, she's getting so big.
Trisha
She's so big. We went out to the park. This was like Spider man and her playing at the things.
Tana
Yeah. And her curls. She's got good curls.
Trisha
Yeah, their hair is insane. And, well, that's why I've been eating so much broccoli, because they won't eat it. And everything I eat, they want. So if I'm. I'm always eating pizza or like pasta. So they'll want pasta too.
Tana
Yeah.
Trisha
So now I've been very much like, oh, I can't wait to have this broccoli. And so your tik tok. But it works, I tell you. But they'll know if I just eat one. They just eat one like mommy, eat more broccoli. Because they want more broccoli. So I'm just like shoveling broccoli in my mouth. So they're also eating like bowls of broccoli. And it worked. Today we're doing that.
Tana
That's cute. So annoying. Like why is she talking like that? It's like she's trying to get her kids to eat broccoli.
Trisha
Oh my. I know. Well, that's what you just know. People are just like children or something. And I'm just like, that's so funny.
Tana
Has to be a 12 year old.
Trisha
I really. Another key to this happiness is like not reading comments. I really don't see comments that much. You posted. You look.
Tana
I, I don't try. I look now and again, but I always know if I'm in like a place where I'm gonna base my worth in comments that it's not the day to read them. You know what I mean? Like that it's just like, and it is like very. That is such scary territory. I feel like I've gotten, I've like not mastered it. But like I, I know what I can consume and what I cannot consume to have my mental health be level and like know who I am.
Trisha
Has there been anything recently where you think this happens once in a while to me, like where you post something and you think the comments are gonna go one way and they go a completely different way. Like on like not even turning on you, but just like a different way than you thought they'd go.
Tana
Yes, yes, I saw there was something. It wasn't a video I posted, but it was a video someone posted of me and Makoa. And the top comment was like, God, he's turning her into such a trad wife. And I was like, oh, I don't know why.
Trisha
That's what it is for me.
Tana
But they were saying in a negative way. I don't remember how they said it, but it was like, I don't remember exactly how they said it, but it was like, oh my God, like, like negatively saying that I've turned into such a trad wife since I've been with Nicole. That's what it is with comments for me. It's like one every like couple months will like Randomly just piss me off. And I'll want to go all defense. And then I know I can't. And I was just like, are you. He's my travel.
Trisha
But then people try to do that too, right? They're like, try to insult. They do that with Moses. They try and sell him being like, not trad white, but like, oh, he's the. He's the nanny and he's the assistant. And it's just like, he's just like, really the boss husband. Just making sure I'm fed and takes care of everything.
Tana
You cannot. You cannot win people. That is just the one thing.
Trisha
That's so funny. And then using like, you being a child wife is like an insult. It's like, meanwhile, you're like such girl boss. But it's like, if you did, like, want to do traditional wifey things.
Tana
Yeah. Like, it'd be my first time in my life doing it. I could probably and get this benefit from doing them. I should learn how to run a dishwasher. I don't have dishes.
Trisha
No, I don't do dishwashers because I don't know how to use them. But I can do a hand wash dish. We should do that for Patreon wash dishes.
Tana
Honestly, kind of camp.
Trisha
Have I talked about this before? My favorite product in the whole world are those Dawn Power washes.
Tana
Yes, you have. You love Dawn Power Wash. Honestly, I need to remember that. That just like, for Christmas. That's what I need to get you,
Trisha
like bedazzle, cinnamon or lime. Yes. It's my favorite thing in the whole world. Like, I love to do a dish. I love to do a dish with that. I don't know why I sound like I'm sponsored, but I'm definitely not.
Tana
No, I'm laundry over dishes at any time. Because I love, like, looking at clothes or like, spraying a stainless dishes is great.
Trisha
Let me make sure I place that order for. For food. I'm like, okay, let me just make sure. I think I did. Yes. Okay. Montreal for dishes is crazy.
Tana
I just hate, like, caked up other people's food. And I'm like, but I am gross. I don't know.
Trisha
I guess it's just like me and like the kids and like, easy.
Tana
Yeah.
Trisha
Well, if you don't let them sit, like, you know the food, so you just throw the food in the trash.
Tana
That's what you're seeing. I need to put my trad wife hat on and not let food sit because Lord knows I do.
Trisha
Tana the chat wife, my favorite. We were talking about it last episode of your acting era. And there's like two music videos of yours that stand out in my mind. And one's an acting one, and one is you as a trad wife. And I remember being, like, so obsessed with your look.
Tana
I remember thinking like, you're the prettiest
Trisha
girl in the world.
Tana
Bella Thorne video. I don't even know what it was.
Trisha
And I remember nine.
Tana
Yes.
Trisha
Hopping on the cloud nine. Like, I love.
Tana
I love trad white. By the way. I have on the underboob top you could possibly have on. I think my hair is in pigtails.
Trisha
Would you take something out of the microwave? Yes. And I'm like, oh, I love this. You were giving so, like, cutesy wife.
Tana
It is funny because, like, I remember at the time whenever, like, Bella Thorne would be trying to like, creative director or creative directing, something that I like we were doing, I would be like, this is so. I don't know. I would always just be like, why can't we just do something? Like, more whatever my vibe was, I guess really was the takeaway. And I'm looking back, it's like, no, she was fun. She had like a.
Trisha
Was that her creative director?
Tana
I remember she was like, you have to do this. And it's like, do all this. And at the time I was like, okay. But now it's like, that was cute.
Trisha
That was like my favorite. That's one of my favorite. And then the other one was where you're acting and I'm not sure the song, but you're like giving serious. You're fighting with a boyfriend.
Tana
You're like, oh, that was FaceTime. And it was Charlie Depew as the actor. I remember that. Just like an old friend of mine.
Trisha
Is he an actor? Like a famous one?
Tana
He was. He was on a show with Bella. Like, what? They. They had a show together. And that's how I met him.
Trisha
You were so good. You were giving.
Tana
Oh, my God, that was such a funny day.
Trisha
That's a good song. I didn't know that was FaceTime because I like that song.
Tana
Oh, my God. I'm excited for what you and I do next. I really am.
Trisha
Can we due at that at our show? How's it go? I need some add some of the face time.
Tana
I don't want to fall asleep on FaceTime. Was my. Can we hear it?
Trisha
Can we hear a little bit? Oh, my God. I would sing anything for you. Two lines. I really love it. And I can't get in my head.
Tana
Sleep on FaceTime. It's like, you're gone every time my phone dies. Real profound lyricism over your face. Did you get it? I was on drugs with Modson and Bella. And I remember I was like, talking to this guy that I thought was gonna be like, long distance. And now looking back to, he's like the worst guy ever, ever. And I was like, I'm gonna write a song about him.
Trisha
With your exes. You wrote a song.
Tana
It was all.
Trisha
You were a little poly at the time, so you like someone else and, like, encouraging it. They're like, all right, let's write a song about this person.
Tana
Yeah. And I think this was before I had, like, started dating. Whatever. Literally, whatever. It's all a Rubik's Cube puzzle.
Trisha
I swore Mod sun rebranded as Youngblood. Like, I swore it. And I asked her. Yummy. And she was like, no. And I was like, what? I swore I heard that from you or some from me. Someone is like, oh, yeah, that used to be months. And I was like, oh, that makes sense.
Tana
So funny. No, and they're. They're pretty different. Yes. Yes. Young blood. He's got like the black hair, he's got the accent.
Trisha
Oh, Monson's not British.
Tana
No, no. From Minnesota.
Trisha
No way. What? Oh, that's so crazy. Oh, my God. Because I was like, oh, they're kind of the same. Okay. So different vibes.
Tana
Yes, different.
Trisha
They get the same though. Like music.
Tana
The music vibe is not like, too far off. I don't know. Ye. But I stream both. Both. Great.
Trisha
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Tana
We love you honestly. Stream yeah. Okay.
Trisha
Yeah.
Tana
I've been living for everything that Youngblood has been doing too. And Monson. Both of them. Okay. I don't whatever.
Trisha
I don't know any of Young Blood's music. I just like his like interviews. I'm like he seems nice. He always talks about like a girl he's been dating and he's like obsessed with her and I'm like I love
Tana
she's dating Jesse Jo Stark, who is Chrome Hearts. Like her family is Chrome Hearts and.
Trisha
Oh, he gives Chrome Hearts.
Tana
Yes.
Trisha
He's like an industry plant from Chrome Hearts. They're probably like, let's plan a pop star to where all our stuff because he gives Chrome hearts and I, we. I don't know if we talked about this off camera or on. Cuz you have Chrome Hearts boots. We were talking about it on camera last time and I was like, I love Chrome Hearts. I just know I'm not the girly to wear it.
Tana
But with like stuff and like they have pink stuff. They have. Yeah.
Trisha
Like I've been the one in mad when it feels like a dungeon in the best way. Like it reminds me of old school Hot Topic where it's like you have to be let into the gates of hell.
Tana
Yeah, it is pretty punk, I guess. But like I like girly punk, you know, Like I just got this little dress from Chrome Hearts that was. It's like coral. It's like the color of the shirt I was wearing earlier.
Trisha
Please wear it.
Tana
I should wear. Honestly, it's kind of like, like, I'll wear it.
Trisha
I want one chrome art thing. But I just know.
Tana
You know what, you would be cute. And like, even they have like the long sleeves. We could get them matching with the. They're black with the pink. Like it just says chrome hearts and stuff. Yes, like in pink. Like just came out. It's instead of like you. It says love you. Oh, that's.
Trisha
If the store's online. Like, where do I get this?
Tana
No, we have to go.
Trisha
It's not online.
Tana
We have to go in person. Or you can buy from resellers. But it's like, even with these boots, I bought them and I was like, I really like that them. But at the off chance if I like get tired of wearing them or like they're a size too big. So it's kind of like people resell Chrome Hearts for so much money.
Trisha
Really?
Tana
Because it's like once it sells out. Yes. Like the, the ability to resell is. It's up there with brands get a
Trisha
reservation right if they call ahead. I remember I called ahead one time and they like laughed at me. Like two months, very.
Tana
It's very that vibe. I like going in Vegas because a lot of times in Vegas you can just walk in, like it's still appointments, but then they'll be like, we have no appointments right now. So like come in. And there's one at Fountain Blue, there's one at Forum Shops and There's one at the Wind.
Trisha
What's the one we went to with Van Cleef?
Tana
We went to Crystals at Aria, which is, like, my favorite mall in Vegas. That one's pretty great. Aloe. They have a great product.
Trisha
Michaela just went there with her goofy goober squad, and she got them all birthday gifts. You watch.
Tana
I saw that, dude. I am like, I'm on a serious. Yeah, I'm on a seesaw with Michaela where sometimes I am like, like, wow. I don't. Like, what the. Like, the Internet takes things too far sometimes in meanness. And then sometimes I think I fall victim to it because she will say something that is, like, very memeable to me.
Trisha
Yes.
Tana
And then all, like, just be using it as a vocal stim.
Trisha
Sure.
Tana
And, like, memeing that like that. You're gonna have to sit down for this. I'd be blatantly lying if I didn't say. I'm saying it 500 times. Behind close friends, she is also in
Trisha
on, because when she was at Vegas, like, when your friends sit down and let you know you're going viral for the wrong reasons or something like that. So she's, like, somewhat into it. I don't think she means it at the time, but, like, it is kind of.
Tana
I also think that it's just, like, it is getting to a point now where I'm trying less to, like, add to it because, like, there. There are so many people who, like, want her to die. And it's like, that I never get.
Trisha
That's so weird.
Tana
Just like, she said it in her most recent haul, which I kind of respect it. I was like, she sat down to do her haul and she said, scroll. Like, if you don't want to watch this, scroll. And there is a point with Michaela where it's like, damn, if you people, like, want her to die so bad, just scroll, you know? Like, I'd be lying if I said I didn't just scroll sometimes. You know, like, of.
Trisha
Yeah, I never watch the halls, ever.
Tana
Yeah.
Trisha
But, yeah, you just scroll. It's like, that easy.
Tana
And like, I. I hope. And I'm saying this all the time where I'm like, I even her, like, doing the divorce, and then the next video is like, Vegas on, and it's like, get ready with me to go to Vegas.
Trisha
And it's like, I look sexy tonight. Like, you love it.
Tana
You have to know that people are going to probably say something about that. Like, extreme emotional flip between videos. Right?
Trisha
Yeah.
Tana
So it's like a part of me just hopes that she knows when doing those things, things that it's going to evoke that. And she, her bills are just paid and she's like, yeah, you know, not reading these like horrible things telling her to do horrible.
Trisha
No, she doesn't miss a beat. And I, I don't think that is a bad thing. I think that's how I would be, ever have been. It's like, okay, I'm going through divorce, but I also have to make my bag because, you know, most people, most influencers will take like a week, a month off to be like, I let, I'm letting you know I'm seriously like grieving something or going through something. And I like that she just keeps it posting like the next day, like at the super bowl. And it's like, yeah, she said they were divorced for like a few months or whatever like that. And it's like. But still, it's like, I, like most people could like, would take off. I never would. I was in the mental hospital the next day. I was like, what it's like to be in a mental hospital come in
Tana
waves, you know, like, you can't be going through something extremely serious. And like, also in Vegas with your friends, like, life does go on.
Trisha
It's a distraction too.
Tana
I just, Yeah, I, I hope that her mental is good because it's like when she's posting a video saying, I got lost in this. And then like, I don't know, like, I don't know. I. I want to see salt with Michaela all the time. Like, she'll do something where I'm like, oh, why did we do this?
Trisha
Yeah.
Tana
But then I'm kind of like, maybe we did this on purpose.
Trisha
Yeah, I'm 100% on board either way. I'm like, if she's in on the troll, she's not in on the troll. I'm in on it because I was definitely like that. I was definitely flip floppy every day of my life. Yeah, I was like, happy that I wasn't. And then it's like, I'm still like that where I'm like, I'm in my under consumed era. And then I'm like, oh, but I'm going to London. Let me get this Louis Vuitton London bag.
Tana
Like, I can relate.
Trisha
And she's very like, young and like newer social media, she's really young.
Tana
I like, forget that. There's something about the way that she carries herself, I think, or presents or speaks or sometimes where I think that Michaela is like much older and Then I'm like, oh, why are you doing this? But she's like, how old is she?
Trisha
I want to say 23.
Tana
She's 23.
Trisha
Am I right?
Tana
Let me make sure she's 23.
Trisha
I could be wrong. Let me double check it.
Tana
But still, like, she's my age. Like, I just. I don't know why in my head, like, we're not the same age.
Trisha
Oh, okay. So I guess what I was thinking then. Yes. So she is 27. That's crazy. Maybe, like, she's 23. I think because you've been on social media a lot longer and you've come into, like, money. She makes it pretty clear that. That, like, she also, like, struggled with money before. So she just started in 2020 during quarantine. Right. So I think when you, like, any influencer, no matter what age you are, I think once you start and then you make a lot of money. She's making a lot of money. Clearly.
Tana
Money.
Trisha
And it's giving. It definitely gives. And not to be like, that person, because we talked about how annoying it is when people like, you're giving me. I want to look out for you. It's not like that at all. It's just like, you've been. We've been through it where it's like, you make all the money and you just. I was spending, like, if I made 300, 000, I sent $300,000. That's getting, like, Lamborghinis, whatever. Like, I was living that same life. So I think when you're new to it, to influencing money, you just go
Tana
through that phase, and it does, like, blowing up overnight, like, does change your mental so much. And then if you're already going through things, it changes your mental so much. And she's 27.
Trisha
Like, marriage, divorce is so much. And then everyone's judging. That runs like, oh, her marriage was sponsored and this, and then speculating about him and all this. That's a lot. Yeah, that's a lot for anyone, honestly. If it was going. If it's happening to me right now, I'd be like. Like, my mental would spiral. So it's. It's a lot to go through. I feel like she has a good grip.
Tana
I want nothing but the best for her to, like, find who she really is and, like, feel confident in that. And, like, I hope people also, like, just the. The people who seriously just want, like, the absolute worst for her to just scroll, like, you know.
Trisha
Yeah, those people are weird, for sure.
Tana
Yeah.
Trisha
Because it's a journey. No one's ever fully. Me too. No one's ever fully healed. No one's ever fully like knows who they are. It's just a journey.
Tana
But I definitely am also a part of the problem sometimes because I do like some of the things she says, I'll like play into the joke of it.
Trisha
Like, yeah, but I think she's like, that's saying. I think she's okay with it. She's not someone who's like mentally unwell in the sense, like you're making fun of someone who's like unhinged and mentally unwell. It's like, oh, she's in on it.
Tana
And sometimes it is just funny. Like I'm not going to lie, like seeing people screen record like from the like, you're going to want to sit down for this. We're going to Vegas.
Trisha
Like that.
Tana
It's just like funny, you know?
Trisha
Like, it's like, yeah, I love it. Honestly, I love it. It's kind of hope core because it's kind of like, yeah, you could also be going through divorce but also being a baddie and getting her Van Cleef diamond necklace. I'm always just like.
Tana
And that's so true. That's the other thing is all it like, like all of people wasting so much energy on commenting on her are just like paying her bills.
Trisha
Or even the videos. Like so many people making videos. It's crazy. I guess it's TikTok. I guess it's the algorithm. You just start seeing so many people making videos about a subject. Because sometimes I'll be like on a subject, like, I don't know who this person is but like clavicular comes up and you're just like, who's actually awful?
Tana
I don't know anything about clavicular.
Trisha
I'm same. But like he does actually awful stuff on stream and people are worried about. He is.
Tana
Oh no way.
Trisha
Like he's really bad. Like, I'm like, how is he not.
Tana
No way.
Trisha
Sucked on stream very openly.
Tana
Maxine. Like he tells women and men what's wrong with their face and how they could like better. You don't know. See, I know about looks maxing, but it comes from him. I didn't know that. Is he super good looking?
Trisha
I don't know if he started it. Oh, I suppose. Yeah, he's young, manufactured. He's giving like pretty for sure. I can guess. He is. Brianna Chicken fries Bodyguard. Did you guys hear that?
Tana
I saw that.
Trisha
Yeah. So he anyways, he says crazy stuff, maybe for rage, but whatever. But it's like, he's not canceled. In fact, the opposite. He's like, running. He's in, like, a fashion. He ran the Runway.
Tana
Right. Also in such a split society where people can do awful things and then, like, the awful side of society, like, loves.
Trisha
But he's doing, like, mainstream Fashion Week right now. Like, he's, like, modeling. And it's like, people are so pissed at Michaela. And I'm like, this guy is actually, like you said, like, outwardly, like, racist, awful, misogynistic. And it's just like, that is also
Tana
the other thing where I'm like, everyone's so mad at Mikayla, but, like, have we checked on others in the beauty community? There are bigger fish to fry than. You don't like the Ardell or you think she's, like, being sociopathic for views or like, whatever it is. Like, yeah, there are people doing actual, like, really awful.
Trisha
It is the not to be that woman. But I am. It is the misogyny, the patriarchy, because. But women really do just get judged more harshly than any man.
Tana
It is really true. Even like Jacob Elordi and Margot Robbie. Seeing the people being like, Margot Robbie is a cheating. It's like, Jacob Elordi is also with Olivia. Jade, like, I understand Margot Robbie is married, and you could argue that, like, but both of them still have partners. And across this Wuthering Heights thing. Yeah, like, I get that Margo's married and it's more serious, but I'm saying they both still have partners and Jacob Elordi is not. It's just like, oh, he loves her.
Trisha
It always is that case. It's always that case. The woman always gets like, that is so true. Yeah.
Tana
I don't want to be a part of adding to that problem at.
Trisha
Although Margo Robbie got the 12 million dollar paycheck and Jacob Lord only got 2 million. So that is progress.
Tana
She said, Time 6.
Trisha
Yeah. Yeah. So I was like, you know what? We'll. We'll take that.
Tana
When she said wuther these heights, Damn.
Trisha
She was the star. I did love Jacob Elordi. I mean, I'm on Jacob. Lordy kick after that movie. I really do kind of like him. I was like, what else else has he been in? Like, I just am trying to find. He's a good doctor.
Tana
I love him as Elvis and Priscilla.
Trisha
I have to rewatch it now because when I watched it, I hated it. But now I love Jake Valori. I'm like, I probably like it.
Tana
I do love Jacob Elordi.
Trisha
I didn't watch. I don't think I watched Priscilla in
Tana
its entirety, but I did. I loved it.
Trisha
It was a rough watch as like an Elvis fan, which I get. I'm not that is true that behavior. But you know when you love someone so much and you're just like, yeah, okay.
Tana
Even today I was in the airport and they had this, like, large framed photo of like Elvis and Priscilla, like getting off a jet at that airport. And I was like, damn. I mean, but like, at the same time, how old was she in this? Like, Rei Co op knows when you're up at 4:30am on a Saturday for a long run and you're actually excited. Not everyone gets it, but we do. At rei, we're here for people who get outside gear up for your next run in store or@rei.com 30 years ago,
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Tana
it is so wild.
Trisha
Yes.
Tana
That, like, people got away with.
Trisha
I guess it's like, yeah, she. She's still very much like, is like an Elvis advocate. So in my mind, I try to, like, rationalize, like, she.
Tana
She's, you know, I just got her book. I want to read it.
Trisha
Is it like an old book or a new one?
Tana
It came out like, Priscilla the movie was like, I think based on her book. So like, not too long ago, it's Elvis and Me. Elvis and Me is the title of it, I think.
Trisha
Oh, Elvis and Me came out right when he died. That was like 1970 something. But is that the book you just bought? Maybe it was re.
Tana
Oh, softly as I leave you Life after Elvis. I don't know if that's Elvis and
Trisha
Me is her memoir, but that maybe they repurposed it because that came out in 1977.
Tana
They might have repurposed it and then
Trisha
they did like a movie even back then.
Tana
Yeah.
Trisha
But Priscilla. Priscilla is based on that.
Tana
I think so. Yeah. Or like, they took notes from that for Priscilla. I think Misinformation. Okay.
Trisha
We are misinformation trained.
Tana
Yeah.
Trisha
Never mind.
Tana
What did you just watch me go like? I just had a Raven Baxter vision.
Trisha
What was it?
Tana
I don't Know if I ever went on a tangent about whatever Mrs. Sings and her TikTok comeback. But I don't need to. I think that we should take a call.
Trisha
Okay. We moving along.
Tana
Devin, can we have a call?
Caller
Patricia and Chana dying to know your
Tana
thoughts on Kim K's new energy drink.
Caller
And also how do we feel that she's continuing to branch out, make more products and lines and stuff. Okay, love you. Bye.
Tana
We love you. First of all, our girl. I'm not gonna lie. When I saw the post, I thought it was just something she was like investing in. And I was kind of like, man. I also not a big energy drink person. So I think that crazy.
Trisha
Cuz everyone is. I'm not. I love cloud. That's so funny. I've never tried cloud over there.
Tana
Is it good?
Trisha
Like, everyone hates it, but I love it. I'm like such a Chloe Stan. My Chloe wig today. My skims robe. Like, I am such a.
Tana
Okay, update. Update. The energy drink. Are you excited? Chloe's like, put it down, Dana. Chloe's like, put it down, dude. Zero calories, zero sugar, peach. It's really nice packaging. One thing that. Yes. One thing I will always say is that Kim Kardashian's marketing, whether you like her, whether you don't, is so good. Like there's a reason skims is a billion dollar business. There's a reason. Like I. I think anyone trying to knock their marketing is just like insane.
Trisha
I was. I'm a Kardashian apologist. I love them. I don't care anything. I'll buy everything. And.
Tana
And like, let me.
Trisha
I take.
Tana
Let me every night. I love.
Trisha
I did Let me pray because of Michaela and my kitties. It smells better. Let's discharge. I would say. Yeah, yeah. And I'm being serious.
Tana
I'd be charging.
Trisha
All right, so this is supposed to come. I was charging too.
Tana
Supercharged. I was like eating white cheddar popcorn. It's like, shut up.
Trisha
It's protein, though. Your body naturally breaks down caffeine, caffeine into three molecules. One of them is the perfect energy solution. Oh. It's focus, clean energy without the traditional side effects. I'm excited. I'm excited. I don't know why it's called update, but I'm here for it. This is nice packaging.
Tana
I really like the packaging. Tell me how you think, what you think.
Trisha
Cuz I'm not an energy drink person either. It's good. I love it. But I'm not an energy drink person. I don't know I think it's of kind.
Tana
Good.
Trisha
It's good, right?
Tana
What's it in it?
Trisha
Maybe you wouldn't sweet and it's not.
Tana
It tastes healthy.
Trisha
Okay, I'm not a drinker, but maybe you. I don't know, maybe because it may taste a little alcoholic, maybe you won't like it. Like, does it taste like alcohol or am I just tripping? Okay, I'm like, it tastes like a thing. Okay, that's it. It's. I see. Not me with alcohol.
Tana
No, it tastes good. I just like, I. I can't with an energy drink. I literally, if you just saw touch my tongue to it, like, like I'll have a panic attack.
Trisha
Well, it's saying, right?
Tana
It's, it's. I can tell it's protein.
Trisha
Yeah, it's a lot of powder.
Tana
Very powdery. I mean, I'm eating it. Why don't we see Kris Jenner releasing more like, like, like I want, I want Kris Jenner to come out with like a salad dressing line. And like how she loves a martini. Like, couldn't you see you're having like a martini mix or something? She's like, whatever. I'm taking 10 of everyone. I'm fine. I love like Quest's protein snacks too. Like Quest protein chips. Can we.
Trisha
Let me podcast about this. I have something to say about Quest. Call this what you say? We haven't gotten to one call. I love Quest. Do you like peanut butter? I forget.
Tana
I like peanut butter, but not with chocolate.
Trisha
Ah, the Quest peanut butter cups. Oh my gosh, I love these. Peanut butter cups are my favorite thing in the whole world. The Quest peanut butter cups are like good, right?
Tana
All the Quest, like little snacks that are protein and the like the chips, like the taco flavored chips and the buffalo flavored cheese chips bend me over backwards. I live for them. Like in Hawaii. That's always what I'm like going around with. Like to have energy. It's so good.
Trisha
I've been, yeah, I've been on the protein kick like everyone else and I'm like, you know what? They're actually pretty tasty. Those Quests are very.
Tana
And you see, it's so crazy how many things protein is the solution for. Like if you don't have energy, if you're feeling lightheaded even when you're sick, if you like really pro. If you're protein maxing while you're sick, like, you'll, you'll get over your illness faster. Like just protein is. If you're sleeping bad, like, protein is. I Don't know why. I just never, like, knew that or, like, realized that.
Trisha
No, never. I didn't get into it this year. And everyone was, like, talking about protein.
Tana
I was like, mind you, Ashley's been telling me that for a decade. I've just been ignoring it. But it's true.
Trisha
She was ahead of the protein. Curb.
Tana
Yes. She really was. She's always like, just have some protein. Like, Micole was very like that, too. They're healthy.
Trisha
But, you know, we're like, try the protein.
Tana
So I will say, for a cloud, it's like, yeah, if you, like, want to get in some protein in a fun way, that's bomb. And I'm excited to try an update. I just don't think I can try it on Not Loveline because. Because I could get all, yeah, weird.
Trisha
I love it, but I know what you mean. Yeah. Actually, I don't drink energy drinks because of that reason, but I just love the aesthetic.
Tana
But I will say that, like, the Kardashians are a master class in marketing, and I will always, always, always, always die on that hill. That, like, it is. It is very inspiring.
Trisha
I was never a Kardashian. I never, never watched one episode of Keeping up with Kardashians. I started watching one theater. Hulu never saw one of the E. Show.
Tana
Have you now?
Trisha
No.
Tana
You?
Trisha
Because I hate the clips. I hate the clips.
Tana
Really?
Trisha
Like, the ones of them, like, punching each other and hitting each other with bags. I hate it. I think it's, like, triggers me, and I'm like, I can't watch it.
Tana
A lot more chaotic in that sense. Oh, my God, I live.
Trisha
But I just love their aesthetic. So even now, their new Hulu show, to me, is, like, not that exciting to watch. I'm like, well, it's kind of boring. They're all just in their house. But, like, I love the aesthetic, so I'm just like, I don't know. Something comforting about it, and I don't
Tana
even, like, it is a perfect comfort show. Old Kardashians, I actually play on loop at my house.
Trisha
Oh, you love. I didn't know that.
Tana
Love old Kardashians. Just because. Because obviously the times have changed. Like, like, they're all now much older with kids and married, and we're also in a much more refined era, like, a cancellation era. And, like, they also don't want to share as much because of the effects of what sharing so much did over the years. It's totally understandable why their show is the way it is now, and it, like, matches the times. But old Kardashians was so unfiltered, really, maybe watch it. It was so like, like they were really actually sharing the, the like messy, raw details of their lives. And it was. I can't look away. And I could watch it. It's on loop at my house always. Like, if you walk in and just in them, we're all in the kitchen having breakfast in the morning, it's just always playing.
Trisha
What are you watching on.
Tana
I don't know. Ashley put on something where it's just constantly, like shuffling episodes.
Trisha
Like, oh, I love that.
Tana
It's like maybe.
Trisha
I guess if you're saying I do love, like Adrienne Malone, so I like to see her when she's like, dating Rob.
Tana
And like when Rob was willing to share all of the interesting intricacies of his life, like, it was just like, I romanticized it so much. I love old.
Trisha
That does make me sad that we don't get to see Rob because, like, having little Aquaman, I always think like, oh, my God, he, like what it's like to grow up with like these two older sisters. And Rob obviously has like three. Three older sisters. So it's like, I would love to see his perspective. Like a boy that grew up in that family.
Tana
And he was so funny on the show because he'd always be like, what, Kim, what are you doing? Like, Chloe, what are you doing? He. Rob was like, so funny.
Trisha
What happened? Where did he go? Why is he not.
Tana
He's coming back. But I think that he just. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he just like, like the filming got to him. Like, it was a lot, it was a lot to share everything. So he like took a big break and a lot of people commenting on him and his health and his well being and stuff. Like, I couldn't, you know, understand.
Trisha
Okay, so he was just kind of over it himself.
Tana
Yes. But live, live for old Kardashians, I'd love to see.
Trisha
Was Caitlyn on the show too?
Tana
Yes.
Trisha
Before everything.
Tana
Yes. And like was very, very present in the raising of Kylie and Kendall. And like, even seeing that is very interesting. And like, wow. Caitlyn was always like, very like the sound reason too. You know what I mean? Like, you girls are like, no, you can't model, you can't post this on social media. You have to go to school. It was just like, I don't know, I romanticized the out of it. Like, I've seen every episode of that one.
Trisha
I remember getting asked to be on season one of the Kardashians. And it was like, 2007 or something. I was on LA casting. Yeah. I did Gene Simmons, or they had asked me on Gene Simmons reality Family Jewels.
Tana
Come on. Yes.
Trisha
So they wanted me to play because I was always playing like, a hooker, but, like, they wanted me to, like, really be, like, pretend that as an actual hooker on tv, which, like, I was in real life. But I was like, oh, I can't be on TV being, like, an actual car. Like, he was gonna pick me up. I don't know if this scene ever aired. I don't know if it would ever be Simmons or on Kardashian, on Gene Simmons. So anyways, I said no to that, but because, again, I was playing, like, the hooker role in, like, literally everything. The Amy Winehouse video, the Shane Dawson. Like, I was always playing a hooker and stuff. Something. The Matthew McConaughey video. Like, I was always a hooker. And then. So then I was like, no to that. And then the same casting people were doing the Kardashians, and I had no idea who they were at the time. And the only reason I know, because they aired the scene it was to play, but they wanted me to be topless, which in the scene, they were not topless. To be a topless babysitter for Kylie and Kendall by the pool.
Tana
Remember? That's what I mean when I say unhinged.
Trisha
But, like, at the time. And like, I said, just maybe I'm, like, misremembering. But I remember them being like, oh, you might have to be topless, but it's like babysitting kids. And obviously I didn't know who they were, anything. I was like, well, that seems kind of odd because I would do topless stuff, but I'm like, in front of it seems a little weird.
Tana
It was.
Trisha
But she wasn't topless, right? Or was she? Yeah, I don't know. No, she took off her. I don't know. They told me you'd have to take off your top and your babies and kids.
Tana
I was like, I remember the risque babysitter episode. I do remember that.
Trisha
Being a corn star. I think it was Brianna. No, that's. That's the new one.
Tana
I know, but I know what you're talking about.
Trisha
She was such a big adult film star.
Tana
No way.
Trisha
I don't think we're named Bri something. Did they ever have a reality show, too?
Tana
Charlie Sheen and Company.
Trisha
Oh, God, that sounds so familiar.
Tana
I love old. Like, even Gene Simmons. Family Jewels. I watched you watch it.
Trisha
Yeah, I wish I Know when people like your Laura. I was like, God, I wish I would have done those shows, Bryn. More ballsy. But I was like, literally, like 19 or something at the time, so I was scared. I was like, I don't want this to be my reputation now. It's like, that would have been.
Tana
Yeah, Briolson, you called it.
Trisha
But there is a Brie Olsen out there now that's dating Santos.
Tana
Okay.
Trisha
I was like, look at you go. I know.
Tana
Okay, Bree.
Trisha
Tsc.
Tana
TSC Cannons. I would, like, I would self fund a reality show about.
Trisha
They're filming it because they all did those. We were talking about last year, how they all were doing the same thing at the same time.
Tana
Yes. I would do anything. One of my girls just started doing Bri Tssi's hair, and I'm like, oh, my God, this is so iconic.
Trisha
Oh, my. I want to know the Lord so bad.
Tana
I am so invested. I like, I will be watching that show when it premieres.
Trisha
Me too. I'm oomphies with Abby and I'm always like, hey, girl. Yeah, what's up? I want to be like, her friend because we had the same, like, kid age range. And I'm like, yeah, Nick Cannon.
Tana
I just. I just live. I absolutely live. And I want a show on that.
Trisha
I need to know. I would love to know the whole everything. That's crazy. And they're all like. I don't know if they're all cool with it, but they all know each other and they're all just like, yeah, this is our life.
Tana
And I just like, I want the intricacies. I want to know, is it the same hair and makeup person across everyone? I want to know.
Trisha
Like, it's Drift Dome, just setting up different sets.
Tana
Is it time slots? Is there a hierarchy due to social media? I think I've talked about this on Loveline, so I'm gonna, like, shut up because I know I'm repeating myself.
Trisha
I'm so.
Tana
But I am so interested. Should we take one call?
Caller
Hi. Hi, Tana. I want to know, is it normal for your boyfriend to be going to, like, massage parlors? Not like the ones that are like the weird ones on the side of the street, but like, an actual massage place. That's like a nice massage place, but, like, his appointment is at 8 to 10:30 at night. Is that not weird? I don't know. I don't know. And to me, that just makes me, like, really uncomfortable for some reason. And he doesn't really care. So I want to know what your guys's opinion is on, like, your boyfriend. Like, if Mokoa or Moses were to go. Go to a massage parlor, how would you feel? Especially late at night for, like, you know what I mean? And, you know, their massager is a girl as well.
Trisha
If Moses was going at 10:30 to a massage for absolutely divorced, I'd be like, what the hell? Like, I'd be following him. I think you're so sketch for that. But, like, it's so different. Like, it's different.
Tana
I think.
Trisha
You tell me. I don't know. I'm not a massage person. You are a massage person.
Tana
Literally. I need a massage so bad right now. All I was thinking about is how I need some person's thumb in my upper neck. Okay, yes. It's a girl that's massaging him. Okay? Like, even when Moko was in Bali, he gets, like, a lot of massages because, like, surfing really like your shoulders and, like, everything like that and whatever. I think that trust really matters here. But I also will say that the number one baseline across any relationship is if something makes you uncomfortable and your partner does not cease doing the thing that makes you uncomfortable. I do find that to be a red flag. I think that If I told McCoy, Noah, in all seriousness, that him eating cheese made me really uncomfortable, he'd probably ask why. But if I had a valid reason, he would. He would, you know, fight. We would find a compromise. He would find a way around it. He would. Whatever. And if he's fighting for something that makes you uncomfortable, I don't like that. I think that's a major red flag. I also do think, like. I think you work yourself into this equation. That's my advice. I don't care if it's toxic. I don't care. Whatever. I would be like, okay, fine, babe, if you want to go, I want it to be a couple's massage. Pay for me to get one. Go get one together. See going on. What's. What's happening in that little massage parlor?
Trisha
Oh, yeah, just watch. I just want to sit there. I just want to spend time with them and just watch.
Tana
I'm going to come, babe. Because then if he's like, oh, no, don't come, babe. It's like, why are you coming, babe? Is that why? Like, I would. Because I do. I think a lot of men do that. Like, there's rub maps. You know about rub maps? Where they go and they find the places. Like, I think that. Not the free rub maps promo, but I think that, like, I don't know. I've I've heard a lot of relationship horror stories where the men are super interested in things like that. And at the end of the day, if something makes you uncomfortable, he should absolutely hear you out and not gaslight you and not pivot. Lay and find a way to pivot, you know. So that's where I'm standing. Is that like. And the 8 to 1030 is also a little like, come cuddle with me maybe. Why can't this happen at noon? Why can't this. Why can't this be a male massage technician? I would do some digging. I would do some digging.
Trisha
Sometimes the high end ones are the sus ones. I used to watch a show Millennial here called Clientless. Do you ever watch that with Jennifer Love Hewitt?
Tana
Oh, I've heard about it.
Trisha
She's like a masseuse and she starts out like a totally legit and then everyone's like, you know how we make extra cashier? It's like in Texas or something. And she would show up in like lingerie and like massage them. And then it just became like something.
Tana
And I just hear about that a lot. Or like a guy, friends of mine even be like telling me that they've done that or like that they go to these places and stuff. So I definitely, like, if he is like detesting ceasing this behavior, I find that to be a red flag. And I think that you should just go. I think that put your little, Put your investigator hat on, girl. Or just draw the line to the fact that something makes you uncomfortable and he's not stopping. You know, like, I, I understand if he really has like body tension and he's really just getting massages. Like, I completely understand. But then he should be fine with a male technician at 4:00pm yeah, you know, exactly.
Trisha
Yeah. I would stop anything if Moses and
Tana
like, I have a lot of friends. Like, like one of my best friends, like her boyfriend, she's like, get as many massages you want, but it has to be a male technician. I don't care. I like, I also, I don't really care if it's a female technician for Makoa. I think that like, if he was going at night or going to the same person, I would definitely like, want to know who they are. Or like, I'd probably just go with and like also get a massage. Like, I don't know. I think trust matters. I think there's a lot of factors.
Trisha
It's also just like, yeah, you said if you're just not comfortable, like be nothing going on, you're like, well, I just don't like the fact that it's like a female touching you. Like that should be enough. You know what I mean? Even if it's like friendly, like, I've had definitely like guys like touch me like friendly ways. And if it's like he doesn't like it, like, I just, I'm like, okay, I won't like be around that person or like, tell them. So huggy.
Tana
So I mean, girl, we love you. And yes. Either do some investigating or set your boundary. And I think you're completely valid and we love you.
Trisha
Insert yourself.
Tana
Yes. Get a massage while you're at it too. You deserve it after all this shit.
Trisha
Worst nightmare as a massage.
Tana
A lot of people don't. A lot of people really don't. Like they find them tickly or like. Yeah.
Trisha
Also their hands. It's like I don't like things on people's hands. Like when they have bumps on their hands. Like I have bumps on my finger sometimes. But it's like.
Tana
But it's skin to skin contact with like a stranger and a lot of people don't like that. You know, I don't care if I meet you on the side of the road, like, can you work out this knot on my shoulder, please?
Trisha
Are you a laps that are like, do you let like your friends sit on your lap or do you sit on your friends laps?
Tana
I do sometimes. Yes. It depends on the friend. I think that with every friend I kind of like, some friends you have like a physical relationship and then some friends. I don't have a physical relationship.
Trisha
Like, who would you sit on their lap? Or like I would let you let who would sit on your lap?
Tana
Like I always am sitting on like Paige. I'm always like, I sit on Amari sometimes too. Okay. Yeah, I'm. I'm a pretty physical friend. But then some people, we just don't have like a physical. Like, like we're touching and it's like, why are we touching? You know what I mean?
Trisha
With everyone, I think I never had friends. When I see people like just friends go sit on something. I've had that happen where people just come sit on my lap. Like people have that close with. And I'm always just like, I'm like a bad guy. That's just like, I don't know what to do.
Tana
I do kind of like I. People do that to me a lot. Like they assume I'm really physical. I think because of how much I like put myself out there. Even like fans, all fans come up and like grab me, touch me, like all these things. I think that for some reason I give off a like, let me come sit on it. Yeah, let's get physical vibe. And I'm really. I have to be like close with.
Trisha
I'm the opposite. Get me. The people come up to me are always like, can I hug you? I'm like, okay, like, you know, I just like. Because it is. I am not.
Tana
But can I hug you? Is amazing.
Trisha
No, I love, I love a consensual like fine.
Tana
But like that, like taking it further than that without like sussing out the vibe. I think it's always important to know if people to suss out the vibe or directly ask if people are physical because some people just aren't, you know?
Trisha
I love it. I love an ask. I love a consensual hug.
Tana
Yeah, for sure.
Caller
Yeah.
Tana
We are so bad.
Trisha
Why do we even take a break? Break?
Tana
I have no idea. Meg got here. Joe and the Juice got here.
Trisha
Our order was canceled.
Tana
Yeah, we had to order. We ordered Taco Bell Buster and we're so excited.
Trisha
But before that we ordered something fancy. Not fancy, but like something you knew.
Tana
Yes.
Trisha
And we were waiting like an hour, like it's taking a long time. And then boom, canceled.
Tana
And I was like, I know. And it's just the worst. Cuz it's like I'm starving. But I mean we were starving like
Trisha
an hour ago when we ordered it.
Tana
I'm starting to like meet God. I'm not even kidding. I have a headache. Like I'm seeing the hat man me.
Trisha
Hello?
Tana
Yeah, so the advice that I give for this next call may be footy.
Trisha
Okay, let's go footy.
Caller
Hi, Trisha and Tana. I just had a crazy dream last night and I needed to call and share because it reminded me of Tana. But basically I had a dream that Justin and Hailey Bieber had adopted me. And they were like the coolest parents ever. Like, Kaylee was such a nice mom. She's so sweet. Sweet. And Justin was such a nice dad. And I don't know, it just like reminded me of Tana and how much she loves them. So anyway, that led me to thinking that I would totally like want to be adopted by both you guys as well. But my question for you is who, which celebrities would you want to be adopted by and why?
Tana
We would love to adopt you. She'd be a way better mother to you than I would be.
Trisha
I'm not sure. You're pretty maternal. I saw you with little Buster.
Tana
Yeah, little Buster. I would say mega is the most maternal, but I'm trying. But what celebrity would you want to be? I mean, Kris Jenner automatically comes to mind.
Trisha
Oh, my God. I was gonna say, I think Justin and Haley.
Tana
Yes. Justin and Haley also seem like such cool parents. I know. I loved her. I just watched her on therapists and like, she just. She's just the cutest girl. She really.
Trisha
It is crazy. Like, therapist getting Hailey Bieber and then like, Harry Styles doing nothing. But the Broski Report, which I kind of love the Royal Court, I guess. And I like, kind of love that the influencers are taking over. They did a whole like, the new late night and I'm like, it kind of is that.
Tana
Because, like, I saw that that was really a cool shoot too. Right.
Trisha
Like Z way. It's just like all the people that are like, yes.
Tana
Yeah.
Trisha
Yeah. Because their interview styles are so popular.
Tana
Yeah.
Trisha
And it's so not late. Right. Because, like, who watches, like, lately. Not to say, like, I wouldn't be gagged to go on like a Jimmy Fallon, obviously. It's like the Tonight Shows like an accolade.
Tana
But at the same time, like, the things that are being consumed, like, numerically, especially online, are they need Shane more than Jake.
Trisha
Shane needs Jimmy Allen.
Tana
You know what I mean?
Trisha
Which is like, cool to like, see. And it is about. But anyways, I also am in my Harry Styles era right now. I'm kind of like thinking, I love being adopted by Harry Styles. He seems cool. He seems like he's.
Tana
Have you ever seen him live? No. Have you Will levitate.
Trisha
He's doing a residency at Madison Square Garden.
Tana
We. We have to go. When is it? I don't know when it is. Meg knows when it is October.
Trisha
Call SeatGeek.
Tana
Are you gonna.
Trisha
Where did you see him at that?
Tana
I saw him in LA at the Forum and it was like I was sobbing. Like, he is just like his aura on stage is to me feels very much that of a different time. Like, it feels like a. Like an Elton John or like a someone like, he. Like his aura on stage is superstar at best.
Trisha
Lemon directed Elvis said Elvis. He's like that Harry Styles is like, closest thing we have to an Elvis. And here's how he's auditioned for Elvis, the Austin Butler role. And he's. He is giving.
Tana
Honestly, I bet that people just couldn't separate him enough. And that's why he didn't get it. It definitely wasn't performance.
Trisha
I think the director said that it was like he was too much of a star on his own that all you would see is, like, Harry Styles. Because he is just so.
Tana
He is. I have chills thinking about Harry Styles.
Trisha
That's so funny because I'm really getting into it now. Were you one Directioner and you just like Harry?
Tana
No, I was much more of a Belieber. And like, obviously I knew, like, that's what makes you beautiful. Yeah, I watched it and I thought they were cute, but I was never really a big one. One deer. I. But I. I love Harry like, that from the first album on, like, Sign of the Times and like Two Ghosts and like, all. It's so many songs. Like, I love it. He's a very talented writer as well. I don't think he gets enough. He does get an immense amount of credit, but he's just also so talented.
Trisha
He seems cool. Like, he also gives, like, you know where you see just Keanu Reeves, like on a bus or like, Adam Sandler was playing basketball and you always see, like, Harry Styles just, like, taking a picture of some. Didn't he, like, take pictures somewhere? This is all like a lie and you just believing everything where you take a picture and like, DM the person a picture that he took of them or something. Is that real? Are you Harry Sty fan? You must be. Okay. I was like, you know, everything that she loves Harry. Wait, have you met him? No. Does he do meet and greets? Me just trying to, like, figure out how to meet him.
Tana
Yes, we should do meet and greets. And he, like, barely takes photos with fans. Like, it's very much like, if he's out and about, people are like, oh, like, can I get a photo with you? He's like, do you mind if we don't?
Trisha
Okay. Respectful king. I like that.
Tana
Yeah, he's. I. I like that. He's a lot about protecting his peace, too. Like, even in the Britney Broski thing, he, like, said something so profound about, like, not putting his worth fully in, like, the facets of being f. Close your eyes. Exhale. Feel your body relax, and let go of whatever you're carrying today. Well, I'm letting go of the worry that I wouldn't get my new contacts in time for this class. I got them delivered free from 1-800-contacts. Oh, my gosh, they're so fast. And breathe.
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Tana
Amos and that like the things that make him the most happy are like being with his family and his sister and stuff. I was just like, that's. And like taking the time off to come back and like make his art in a beautiful way. I just love Harry Styles, his new album. Yeah. I'm so excited. I don't think it's out yet. It's not out yet, right? No, we'd be streaming it next Friday. I cannot wait.
Trisha
What's it called? Do we know?
Tana
Wow.
Trisha
I can't. Wow.
Tana
Disco.
Trisha
You really know everything. You need to get a collab with Tana and Harry.
Tana
Yes. With Megan. Harry. Honestly, that's what I'm saying.
Trisha
Because you'd be in there, you'd be in the mix. Yeah. I feel like you could make it happen. Like, I feel like when you're a fan and you have like the knowledge you do to just make things happen, it's kind of.
Tana
Yeah.
Trisha
We love to be in that era. Right. Like, again, I like when like influencers get a big opportunity like that because it's like, oh, it's a step like that more people would be. Be doing that. Because I do think it's. We were talking about earlier, we were talking about something else where I'm like, I like that they go into the influencer market, Domino's and just like. Yeah. In general, just people.
Tana
I love seeing people embrace where the times are at, you know?
Trisha
Yeah.
Tana
But Charlie XCX is so good at that. Just embracing the. The times and being so like with it and on the pulse where it needs to be.
Trisha
Instead of spending like a million dollars on a commercial. Like, I, I go back and forth ignorance like the tart chips. I. Or so. But then it's kind of like, well, I guess like you would be spending that much on like a commercial for TV that no one watches, so you might as well do it. And it is kind of like a fun way. And everyone at the end of the day does like love a little brand trip. Yeah.
Tana
Harry Styles, adopted by. I also will say Sharon Osborne. I weirdly think that if Sharon Osborne was my mom, I would have so much fun. Like, she's interesting.
Trisha
She hated me on America's Got Talents. Really? She would not like me. Her and Howie are my, like, anti dream adopted because they just like me. I have no ill will towards them. Them. I did love her on, like. Did you ever watch Charm school?
Tana
No.
Trisha
On VH1.
Tana
You did.
Trisha
You did. Oh, that's crazy. I feel like you're like my age, even though you guys are the same age. It's so crazy. It was like all the rock of love girls went to get reformed and Sharon Osborne was like the headmistress that, like, tried to, like, help these, like, bad girl and she would, like, fight. Remember that one girl, she fought. She, like attacked and she was so. Yes, it was. Is that macho? What is that? I just see like a green. Green juice. Oh, my gosh. No, you're good. You're good. Did you eat in Hollywood?
Tana
No. I immediately turned around, honestly, because it
Trisha
did kind of sound fun. We're like. Because I love going over there to just eat at places, but I never get.
Tana
Eating in Hollywood is the best.
Trisha
Yeah.
Tana
We should go to Cafe Matcha, though.
Trisha
This was the last day of the La La Land by Beverly Hills Hotel collab. And did you see the one with like. I never tried it. I know it was the last day of the collab is today. And it was like a wine glass you could get at the Beverly Hills La La Land. Like, have you been to LA Land, though?
Tana
Yes. I love La La Land.
Trisha
So they have a lot of land reserve. I know same. They have a LA land reserve in Beverly Hills where it's like a really fancy.
Tana
I love the reserves. I've also never been to a Starbucks reserve. What? Yeah.
Trisha
I feel like that was like a thing which I love. Like 10 years ago, people were like,
Tana
I'm not very reserved, so.
Trisha
But it's fine because I feel fancy going to like a reserve. You're just like, oh, that feels. Yeah, you know, like the vibe. But yeah, it's like, oh, and it's fine with match. I'm just really on a watch kick anyways.
Tana
But yeah, I love, love. I love. I do love a matcha and it doesn't give me anxiety. But the re coffee one is so good. The strawberry, that's the one I love.
Trisha
Right?
Tana
It's so good. It's the best matcha ever.
Trisha
It's really creamy and sweet.
Tana
Like, it's not. It doesn't taste like you're like a cow eating grass. It tastes like you're like in la.
Trisha
I love being A cow eating grass.
Tana
Yeah, that too. That's always good.
Trisha
Jack in the Box just came out with a matcha. Like, everyone has matcha now. I'm just like, oh, my gosh.
Tana
It's crazy.
Trisha
Thank you so much for watching another episode. Talk about Hillary Duff hollered. Did you see?
Tana
I did not see.
Trisha
But by the time that comes in three weeks, it's gonna be so irrelevant.
Tana
We could talk about it right now.
Trisha
Why don't we? Okay.
Tana
Honestly, I loved hearing that she did show up to that premiere.
Trisha
Yes.
Tana
The Freaky Friday premiere. And, like, shady. Because her and Lindsay Lohan was the whole beef over Chad Michael Murray.
Trisha
Aaron Carter. Oh, I believe. Because she said they were. He was dating both of them, and there was no way of checking social media back then, so she. You just had to take someone's word for. For it. So, like, he was dating both them. I think that was.
Tana
I've never thought about that.
Trisha
Yeah. I don't think either one of them dated Chad Michael Murray. From what I know.
Tana
I know for sure Chad was the one that invited Hillary.
Trisha
Yes, Chad. And, yeah, she did say that, but I think the beef was over Aaron Carter. Yes. And so she did say she showed up to be.
Tana
And then they ended up taking a shot at the club, like, way later. Lindsay and Hillary, which I also love. I love any intel from the 2000s it girls, like, what happened at that time. So I was living.
Trisha
I love that they look back at it and, like, just very, very matter of fact, because she said her daughter is, like, a big fan of Lindsay Lohan's movies. So I love that they could just, like, look back and, like, see it for what it was or whatever. You know, I think I. I love the whole thing. I love.
Tana
I also will say, like, I absolutely. Hillary Duff, she looks beautiful. She hasn't aged a day. Her music is forever iconic. She did. Her music is so much for the LGBTQ community. I love seeing her in this era where she's selling tickets and doing her big one.
Trisha
Oh, no. It's amazing. It's like that she's playing the Kia Forum. Oh, my. Yes. Which is so insane. And we should go. Coffee. Yeah. I do have a little bit of concert anxiety, but I would love to. I love the idea.
Tana
I actually also feel that, like, going to a concert, especially in la, like, the traffic and, like, getting in and, like, the whole thing, and then, like, I don't know, whenever I'm at the Kia 4, I'm all like, catch someone secretly filming me and stuff. So I like, yeah, When I'm in LA at a concert, all I'm thinking about is being perceived.
Trisha
Right.
Tana
Because you'll like catch people like doing
Trisha
things and skipping the film. Who's that guy, Sixth Sense who did the Sixth Sense? I'm not Shyamalan. I remember that movie with like that other guy. What's his name? Gosh. Yeah, he goes to a concert. Did you ever see that one where he goes to the concert and my Shyamalan's daughter's like a pop star and they're looking for this killer so they shut down the concert and like what's his name?
Tana
Josh.
Trisha
Josh something. Trap. Have you seen Trap?
Caller
No.
Trisha
Josh Hartnett.
Tana
Oh, Trap. Yes, I have seen it. And it's like a scary movie. And the daughters at the concert and then it's like this whole series at the concert.
Trisha
He's the killer, the dad's the killer. And they just shut it down. So he has to find a way to get out of it.
Tana
Oh my God. I never got to the end of the movie actually. Cuz I turned it off cuz it was low key. So bad.
Trisha
I love.
Tana
I really. Should I watch it in full?
Trisha
Yeah. I kind of love. Oh, love it. M night. Shamla movie. Do you have a scary movie too? Did you see.
Tana
I know we have to go, but
Trisha
you see the new scary movie trailer?
Tana
No.
Trisha
Scary Movie 6. It has like the weapons scary movies. Wayans brothers. Like parody version and love those. It's on a fair Ferris and oh gosh, what is her name in the new one? Brenda. Yes.
Tana
You're a liar.
Trisha
Is it Regina?
Tana
Oh, I'm very excited. Og scary movies too. Like Carmen Electra though. That was Scream. Let me just. Shut up.
Trisha
No car. Electra was in scary movies.
Tana
Oh, she was in both.
Trisha
She was in Scream.
Tana
She gets stabbed in the. Right.
Trisha
That scary movie. Oh, they did a parody of it.
Tana
Oh. Of Drew Barrymore getting sapped. Yes. I was confusing them. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Trisha
Why am I. I'm like. Because Pamela Anderson was also in Scary Movie doing a parody. But that was separate.
Tana
So was Holly. The girls next door were all in an original scary movie, right?
Trisha
Yeah.
Tana
Which I lived for.
Trisha
I love.
Tana
Oh my God. I just watched the House made with Sydney Sweeney too. And Amanda Seyfried.
Trisha
Are you good?
Tana
It was phenomenal.
Trisha
I need to.
Tana
I watched it at the house. It came out, it's streaming and I
Trisha
want to watch it so bad.
Tana
It was really, really, really good. Okay. And I know people have a lot to say about Sydney Sweeney. She was definitely cast as her archetype, like, you know, she's the husband and doing her Sydney Sweeney thing.
Trisha
She should. Yeah.
Tana
I mean, but it was really good. Amanda Seyfried, like, killed it. And I love her. I love, like, a psychological thriller scary movie where it's less, like, gore, like, super like. I like when it's more, like, mind scary and, like, not, like, jump scary.
Trisha
Yeah.
Tana
And that's what this was.
Trisha
I just read the book, so I know, like, the twists and turns. Well, at least I know from the book. And I'm like, cannot wait to watch. I love the sexiness.
Tana
Read like a fiction book.
Trisha
I love a book.
Tana
Yeah.
Trisha
I read Wuthering Heights. Like, when I'm really into. I read all the Bridgeton books. Like, when I'm really into something, then I'm like, okay, I can.
Tana
Have you read Verity?
Trisha
No, I never even heard of that.
Caller
Okay.
Tana
Everyone's talking about Verity right now. And I know that it's. It's not Colleen Hoover, but it's the other one, and they're making a movie about it. Ty was reading it in Cabo, and he, like, would not stop talking.
Trisha
They're making a movie. Oh. Oh, I did. The movie's, like, coming out.
Tana
Oh, it's Colleen Hoover. Verity. Everyone loves Verity.
Trisha
Yes, I did see that. There's already features of it. Right?
Tana
You don't like fiction books. I want to read about someone's real life, and they're, like, real horrible hardships. And, like, I'm a nonfiction girl through and through, but I'm trying to, because I do understand that there's validity in, like, escaping to another world.
Trisha
Yeah.
Tana
And, like, I'm always reading some deep, dark book that, like, makes me sad for a week or, like, makes me think a bunch. And, like, maybe it would be good to just read something that, like.
Trisha
No. When you read something that's fiction, like a Weathering Heights, where it feels like dark matter, where it's, like, not real, at least you're like, well, this is just a fantasy world that we're living in. Nice. The whole BDSM of it all. It is. All right, well, you guys, we love you. We love you. Thanks so much for watching.
Tana
Having a little sleepover with the girls. We love you. Yes.
Trisha
And our meemaw and sexy, sexy girl.
Tana
Okay, I literally. I'm your housemaid right now, girl.
Trisha
Well, isn't that the whole. Oh, my God, we are that. No, minus the sleepy. I don't know. I meant, like, the two blonde girls. We should be that. I don't know. No, I love Amanda Seafried. Even, like, Jennifer's body. Like, I love the Amanda Seafried character. Like, I love her so much so.
Tana
And she, she's such a talented singer. She does not, like. Sometimes I feel like Amanda Safri does not get enough credit for how, like, just mainstream level insane talent.
Trisha
No, I love her so much. Everything all right? Record.
Tana
I love that. We just keep yapping. We love you guys. And go over to the Patreon and check us. Yap, dirty. Check us out.
Trisha
Yapping, yapping, dirty. I love it.
Tana
English Almost. Love you.
Trisha
Love you.
Hosts: Tana Mongeau & Trisha Paytas
Date: March 9, 2026
Title: TRISHA ON THE KARDASHIANS TV SHOW!?! + MIKAYLA NOGUEIRA'S ANTICS
This episode of "Not Loveline" delivers the signature blend of candid humor, confessions, and cultural commentary from Tana Mongeau and Trisha Paytas. The hosts dive into nostalgia about the Kardashians, reflect on their own relationships with food and self-care, discuss viral internet personalities like Mikayla Nogueira, & tackle listener questions about relationships, boundaries, and pop culture. Balancing laughs, vulnerability, and a healthy dose of hot takes, the episode is a wild ride through influencer life and the current state of girl internet.
Trisha recounts almost being on Keeping Up With the Kardashians (44:18)
Affection for Old vs. New Kardashians (41:41–43:49)
Boyfriend & Late-Night Massages (47:27–52:14)
Physical Friendships: Lap-Sitting & Hugs (52:40–54:03)
Stream the full episode or catch bonus content on Patreon.