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Trisha Paytas
I had to turn down a deal because we just couldn't see eye to eye, and it was for $20,000. And I couldn't sleep. Like, I literally couldn't sleep because it's
Tana Mongeau
just like, let's see, a conspiracy theory guy who, like, got canceled because he wanted to do makeup, and it's like. You know what I mean? And it's like, have Jacob stories play. You, like, whatever, but, like, the fact that you just did this. All right, here we go. Ready?
Trisha Paytas
Okay, I'm ready.
Tana Mongeau
Where did these come from?
Trisha Paytas
I thought you did that.
Commercial Announcer
Oh, Moses put them there. He found them at Target.
Tana Mongeau
And so they said, loveline, Nova. Are we rolling?
Trisha Paytas
Are we recording? We're suing Target, mind you. We took the name from someone else, and we're like, how dare they?
Tana Mongeau
And then most crazy, though, right? That's a little crazy.
Trisha Paytas
They know. That is, like, interesting.
Tana Mongeau
I thought you wrote the full thing on there. So it says not love lying on these. And I'm like, where did these come from?
Trisha Paytas
Moses got them at Target, but then he wrote not by it, which I think is, like, really sweet.
Tana Mongeau
That is really sweet. But the fact that they had Loveline there is kind of crazy. Like, if you were just walking and I saw, like, just Trish at Target, I'd be like, what the.
Trisha Paytas
You know what I mean?
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. Or if it was Trish or something, just. I don't know. You know what I mean?
Trisha Paytas
No, Love. Loveline is like. I. I feel like, wow, I'm taking credit for that. Whatever. I'm in my narcissist era today. We did that.
Tana Mongeau
We did that.
Trisha Paytas
And we're suing.
Tana Mongeau
We did that. And Tana was always so sweet. I think about this all time. Like, I. We have the name and I feel like we're committed to it now. And I, like, loved it. I was so admiral, cuz I'm a millennia. And I like Loveline. I was like, this is what it's going to be. And she's like, are we sure about the name? And I was like, yes. And then it's like, huh, maybe I wasn't sure about it. I should have. I should have conferred with you more.
Trisha Paytas
But now I'm not gonna lie. Like, not Loveline is my baby. I couldn't imagine it as anything else,
Tana Mongeau
but it's like, we don't take the calls. We don't. You know, we are gonna take calls, but we haven't seen each other yet. And we talked already for an hour. And I was like, wow, we have a lot to talk about.
Trisha Paytas
We literally just talked for an entire hour. But honestly, if anything we said off camera just now made it to the air, I wouldn't.
Tana Mongeau
We were like, we should do like a Rob. As we were saying. And one day when I. Both of our books are out, we just do like a full, like, expose. Yeah, just one. Because, look, I don't miss the drama. Like, I do not miss the anxiety I have when you talk about someone or anything like that. But it's like the frustration. That's why I think this is a good lesson to everybody watching. It's like, you can vent. Like if something pisses you off, if you.
Trisha Paytas
If you.
Tana Mongeau
You can vent, you can rant, you can do everything. But it doesn't always need to be online. You know what I mean?
Trisha Paytas
And like, with trusted people.
Tana Mongeau
Trusted people.
Trisha Paytas
Good to. I love that you and I have that. That it's like. Because you're one of the only people where I'm, like, gonna come over and, like, be talking about someone where I wouldn't say it online and tell you the real honesty and, like, I don't have to, like, do it on the forefront anymore.
Tana Mongeau
Me too.
Trisha Paytas
But I understand how you feel deeply. Because I think that those girls in us, as much as they are gone and they are. I. I would always say, like, that Tana's dead. You know, I've come to the conclusion over the past six months that. That Tana's not dead. She's just dormant.
Tana Mongeau
Yes. Yes.
Trisha Paytas
And like, she's smaller. She's like a little tiny. Like little tiny tanners in there. And she's dormant. But like when someone takes it there dormant, old you gets a little fired up, you know?
Tana Mongeau
Yes. No, it is. It is like you can work on yourself. It's like, it's like mental illness, like anything. It's like it's never fully gone. Alcoholism, like, you're never fully. Right. They always say once an addict, like, always addict, like, you can be in recovery, you can do all stuff like that. But same thing with mental illness. It's like I still very much have it. I just like do so much better at recognizing when those are like triggers are going to come up or something.
Trisha Paytas
But and patterns and just taking time and all the things.
Tana Mongeau
I think so many people go to the Internet too, because they just want to be heard like that. I feel like that was. I'll speak and speak for myself. Like, that's why I did it 100%. You want to be heard. Like, no one's listening to me anywhere else. I just want to be heard. And I felt like power when I did those videos. I was like, wow, people are listening to me.
Trisha Paytas
People.
Tana Mongeau
People are not going to talk me. So, like, I'll use the one that's like very public, which is like, not even any beef anymore, but like the Jeff incident at Starbucks. Right? Like, I felt so powerful in the sense. It's like he's like, no one could say my name. Like, oh, my God, don't even mention Trisha. Don't even acknowledge her. I was like, wow, look how powerful I am that they're so scared that he left Starbucks. Or like, which is a way to feel. But it was just someone who, like, never had power in my life and I had no control over anything in my life. So it felt like that for me when I did those videos.
Trisha Paytas
Like, so therapeutic. I think when you feel not heard for so much of your life to finally. Like, that's why I started YouTube, you know what I mean? I just wanted to feel heard. I wanted someone to listen to me. I wanted to feel like someone cared. I wanted all of those things. And I still notice those patterns, like, in my life. Even recently I've been shooting my big project, which is coming out, you know.
Tana Mongeau
Okay.
Trisha Paytas
You know, like, I've just. I've been working on things and shooting episodes of things, and I'm really, really, really excited. And I was having just like a really bad mental health day. And I was telling you about this, like, my life is so good. But then they're like, And I'm so grateful for everything that's happening, but sometimes I'm just. My chemicals aren't chemicaling, right? Or like just parent stuff, trauma stuff, like, whatever. And I was having it. We were in Mexico and I was just having this day and I felt like my trauma was like dragging me around all day and all I wanted to do was podcast about it. I was just like, all I want to do is sit down and like, talk about it. And it's so interesting that, like, in my formative years, that became like therapy for me. Like, I literally felt better after I sat down for an hour and like cried and talked about all the things that were like, making me feel some type of way. And it, like, it is healing. Isn't that interesting?
Tana Mongeau
It's healing. And I think that's. Yeah, that's the beauty of a podcast, you know, is then you can get out what you want to get out. But I think because we been doing like just being on social media for so long, because storytime stuff, we're like old school podcasts. Like, they're the original podcast, right? Story time is like you sitting down for an hour telling a story. It's kind of like the same. And yeah, I feel like it is, it is. It is nice to get it out that way. But then it's also.
Trisha Paytas
Discretion is important though.
Tana Mongeau
Discretion. And I think for me, it's like when I found friends and when I found, like, obviously Moses. Like, my husband is like, oh, this is how normal people do it. Like, they just talk to people in their real life. And I was like. Or therapists, if you didn't have one. Like, mine started with a therapist before I had anybody, and. And then Moses, and then now with you. It's so fun. Cuz we'll talk for like an hour before we come over and I'll just be like, all right, let's see. You know what I mean? And it's. And it just feels good. Cuz at the end of the day, like, everything is just like, not serious. Like, none of it's serious. Like, you know what I saw someone the other day is like, you don't know, like, how much you have until it's like you lose your health or something. Like, you know, if you go through like a health problem and it's true. It's like at the end of the day, we're like, alive, we're healthy, we're
Trisha Paytas
like, stop vaping while you're talking about your health.
Tana Mongeau
I thought you were done with that. Like, I. I feel like I haven't seen you vape, but you're still.
Trisha Paytas
No, it's. I'm still okay. I'm gonna kick it really well.
Tana Mongeau
Okay, that's good. I believe you.
Trisha Paytas
I agree with that though. Thank you. You're the only one. Thank you.
Tana Mongeau
I believe in you.
Trisha Paytas
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Tana Mongeau
And I believe you. You're not a liar.
Trisha Paytas
But it is true. Like just having. Cuz even like everything we just talked about off camera, it felt so good to talk about it and rant about it and get it out and like old us would have absolutely had the cameras rolling and put that out there. But then the amount of like haywire it would. Cause if it's out there, like being able to recognize who to talk to is a very important lesson, you know?
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, just like, just some things don't be online. I love, don't get me wrong, I do love when people get messy on TikTok. Especially just random people that are not influencers. I live and they just air out everything. I'm just like, I'm seated for this. I'm seated for this because I do live. And we just want to feel like we're not alone and going through messy lies together.
Trisha Paytas
And the Internet can be great for that too. That's the thing, is that it is a double edged sword. Like I can look back at things and be like, maybe I shouldn't have shared that thing I was going through on like online and it like following forever. I always talk about that with like the Ashley. Her and I like having drama and like our only fight and stuff. Like I always talk about how I regret that because I think that the Internet like, held on to something and like, we're sisters and we're fine and the way I said it and stuff. But at the same time, like, at the time I, you know, was like seeking to have other people make me feel heard and seen and other people.
Tana Mongeau
Right. You said like when someone like close to you. That's why when I see people like air out like their husbands and stuff and then they get together the next day, everyone's like, that's a piece. Like, why are you still with him? It's like just, yeah, you don't have to say everything because everything's messy.
Trisha Paytas
But it is true.
Tana Mongeau
And also like, I guess on the flip side too is like you just never know like where that other person's at. Like sometimes like you're in the right 100. But like, what if that other person's like, mentally unhinged and you don't want to push them over.
Trisha Paytas
You know, that is definitely another thing. Like, recognizing the power. Like, even if it's like, this is how I feel, this did happen to me. This is completely true. Like, what I'm saying, there's power in putting it out there. And like, that could harm someone, you know?
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. No, it's a good thing to recognize. Well, that's why you just venture in real life to your friends or therapist, pay someone. They'll listen to you.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. And like, even just choosing who you vent to is like a big thing that I learned. I feel like I used to be like, a lot more willy nilly with who I would, like, be telling my problems to or whatever. And then you learn as life goes on. Like, some people don't have your best interest in mind or like some people just want your problems as like, tea and drama. Or some people literally want to see you fail. Like they're, you know, like, knowing who you can talk to.
Tana Mongeau
Are you the kind of person, like, I know how we are and I. But I went like, in like your friends that you've known for so long, are you the kind of person to just be honest with them? Like, if they're in the wrong? You're like that. Or do you let someone just vent and be like, yes, go off. I'm on your side, honest with them. You will.
Trisha Paytas
I. I like, yes. Yes. If a friend ever comes to me about a problem, I'm gonna try to like. And I think that sometimes I do have friends that will, like, almost go to other people who like, may. And we all do this in life. I'm not like, talking, saying anything bad, but I'm saying, like, people know not to come to me if they just want to be told what they want to hear. I see and sometimes recognize that and I try to, like, dial it back. But, like, if my friend is dating someone and they're venting to me, I'm like, yeah, he's a piece. You should break up with him. Like, I'm very much. I made a tick tock about that the other day and I drafted it. But, like, don't come to me for advice on your boyfriend if you don't want me to, like, tell you he's a piece of and you should break up with him.
Tana Mongeau
You're the in real life. Not love lying.
Trisha Paytas
Yes.
Tana Mongeau
Literally. Oh, interesting.
Trisha Paytas
Like, I can't. I can't. Because if I care about someone too much, who I am and how like, honest I am with the people I love, I can't like, placate people. Like, I can't just, like, sit there and be like, no, yeah, it's, like, fine. Like, it's just not who I am at all.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, you have to be real. I go back and forth because, like, my truest confidant is obviously Moses, but sometimes he's, most of the time, always on my side. I guess I'm more of the one that has, like, a flip side. I'm. What do they call it? Like, devil's advocate. I'm like, well, maybe it was this. And he's like, I think I do that so much, Tim, that I think, can't you just, like, be on my side for this? I'm like, well, I always try and think of, like, the other side, but I'm like, sometimes, I guess, yeah, you just want someone to do what's wrong for you.
Trisha Paytas
Makoa is very like that. Mokoa is always going to give me the opposing side of what I'm talking about. But I think that you need it.
Tana Mongeau
I need it?
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Girl like me needs that, you know, to be like, okay, babe, well, maybe just, like, sleep on it, try again tomorrow. Or like, maybe this person was feeling this way. Or like, you know, you. You always. I don't know. I need that.
Tana Mongeau
With Moses, I have to tell him when I need the honest opinion and not. I'm like, just venting.
Trisha Paytas
That's actually smart. That's actually smart. I'd probably be like, less of a. Like, I should just be like, hey, tell me everything's. I do do that, actually. Sometimes I'll be like, just tell me everything's gonna be okay. Just tell me it's all gonna be fine. I don't want advice. I don't want, like, anything.
Tana Mongeau
Like, yeah, I have to be very clear when I talk to him because I'll be like, okay, honest, hon. I look fat. And it's like, tell me. Tell me for real. I think it was the last time we went out was your ear tarte launch. I remember. I was like. So I just had, like. We just gave him birth. I was like, so big, nothing fit. And I was like, you have to be so honest with me. Like, does this, like, my back fat hang out? It was a different dress than I ended up wearing.
Trisha Paytas
And he's just like, no, no.
Tana Mongeau
And then my mom was here because she was watching the kids. I was like, mom, shows. Yeah, it is a little bit. Because I, you know, you're 360. And so, like, tell me. It's like, there wasn't it Is true.
Trisha Paytas
I think some people just don't have it in them. Like, they just love you so much and, like, whatever. Like, that's. I'll go to Amari for that always. I'm like, do I look frump in this? Like. And you're like, yes, you look frumpy.
Tana Mongeau
You do need, like, real. And you also need comfort. That's why.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, but then Meg is gonna be like, that's the prettiest dress I've actually ever seen. You look perfect.
Tana Mongeau
And, like, I know that about her.
Trisha Paytas
She's just so pure and sweet, and she could, like, never. And she might see it that way, you know, like, she doesn't see it like that. But Amari will be, like, off now.
Tana Mongeau
You need a real one. You need. She's over dramatic.
Trisha Paytas
I feel like sometimes she's like, I look awful. I look huge in this. And I'm like, you look great.
Tana Mongeau
I agreed. I feel like, yeah, you always.
Trisha Paytas
My dysmorphia is winning these days.
Tana Mongeau
Really?
Trisha Paytas
Why? Oh, no.
Tana Mongeau
You said maybe there might be look at imbalance or something.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, I like, I'm definitely, like, looking into trying some new SSRIs. It's so interesting to me that we have doordash robots and, like, the only way to do the SSRI journey is by trying them for three months.
Tana Mongeau
What is it again? I know you like, what ssri?
Trisha Paytas
I don't know, like, a Prozac, a Zoloft, like, just any, like, antidepressants.
Tana Mongeau
Ssri.
Trisha Paytas
I don't know. Actually, I never heard that.
Tana Mongeau
Okay.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, just. That's a blanket statement for all of those, like, antidepressants and different types of medications, like, whatever. But it's just so crazy that it's like, yeah, you got to try it for three months and it might not work, and you might be weird as hell, and it might make you break out and it might, like, whatever.
Tana Mongeau
Right?
Trisha Paytas
There's no. They're starting to, like, develop this thing where you can swab your spit almost like a 23 in me and send it in. I know. And then they tell you, based on your, like, DNA, what SSRI is best for you. But like, my doctor was saying, he thinks it's, like, not that accurate.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, it doesn't sound like it.
Trisha Paytas
And it's so scary having your pay be equated with your personality. And then it's like, I'm just gonna take this pill and try, like, a whole new personality.
Tana Mongeau
That is. That is. I know, because I've been on. I was only on, like, one antidepressant and it, like, made me crazy. And now really so scared, which I. There's been times. I don't think it was one of those. I think it was the lithium for bipolar. I don't think I was like, bipolar. I remember taking lithium. I remember like, literally just, like, wanting to, like, crash my car every time I got in it.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, my God.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, it was crazy.
Trisha Paytas
See, that's what I mean. And I'm just already, like, a little bit not so scary.
Tana Mongeau
I know. I don't want to, like, put out, like, any misinformation. I just tried it. But I don't want people to be scared of it either, because I think it is so good. I mean, so many people. I know I'm on medication. I feel like I should be at times. And it's like, I was so scared of that one incident, so I never really got prescribed.
Trisha Paytas
I know. And I really good.
Tana Mongeau
If you need them.
Trisha Paytas
I mean, I think I just do. I don't know. Lately I've been very dysmorphic and I've been very, like. I don't know, like, agitated a little bit. Like, just easily. Er. These are all not words. Easily. More easily agitated and, like, slower. Like, at. Like, I'll get, like, something so amazing, like a brand deal that I've been wanting for so long. A brand I want to work with. And then like, actually getting myself to film it. I'm, like, paralyzed, almost, like. You know what I mean? Just, like the cranky, unmotivated.
Tana Mongeau
I think it's a hormonal thing because, like, you're so aware of, like. Yeah, you're aware of it. You know what I mean? I think that's the thing that's. I guess what I should say, too, about, like, when I was on the medication, it wasn't working. Like, I was super aware that it wasn't working. Like, I knew something was wrong. So that's. I was like, oh, I need to, like, get off this. And obviously, getting off. You need help with the doctor.
Trisha Paytas
So, yeah, you're really aware and you're
Tana Mongeau
aware of, like, your situation now.
Trisha Paytas
So, yeah, it's all about my anxiety and just, like, ocd. Just, like, have I've noticed within sobriety, Like, I feel like I'm always talking about sobriety. Like, it's just butterflies and rainbows and it is like, I would never change it. I'm so happy to be sober. But obviously, when you are, like, raw, dogging life, like, certain things that could have been dormant or underlying problems, you're very much seeing with full, like, clarity or new things develop because of that. And like, I just feel like my anxiety. Like, I can't believe I was ever someone who didn't have anxiety.
Tana Mongeau
When. When did you not. When did you start it? When did you start getting anxiety?
Trisha Paytas
I feel like I started getting anxiety probably like three years ago. But it was very much like a tiny snowball that has turned into like a much more like anxious one. And then I was prescribed benzodiazepines, like a low dose of Xanax for it. And it does work for me. Like, I can take a little like quarter of a 2 milligram bar at night or like, like, if I'm having anxiety and it works. But I also know that like, long term Xanax can cause dementia and like different things like that. And it's just like, it's a very addictive drug. It's very. And you can't go cold turkey. Like, I just wanna. I wanna try other things for it, you know.
Tana Mongeau
But because you've done like recreational Xanax, right?
Trisha Paytas
Yes, I definitely. It's really interesting to me because I have a very addictive personality. And at one point, like a long time ago when I was Zanna, I had like an extreme Santa.
Tana Mongeau
That's where I've heard before. Who said that? Why do I feel like I heard that before I started saying it?
Trisha Paytas
And then people like, recog. Nice. Because, like, during MTV and a lot. Okay, I was just abusing like pills from the streets, like, with friends and like all that type of stuff. And like.
Tana Mongeau
Okay.
Trisha Paytas
But now, like after sobriety and getting prescribed a very low dose, I don't feel myself like abusing it or like having any problem like that. I just want to like, get ahead of anything before it starts. Also knowing I have an addictive personality and knowing that like. Yeah, I just like, maybe need something I can take like in the morning. I can't take a Xanax in the morning, you know, Like, I don't know.
Tana Mongeau
But again, I think just like the fact that, you know all this stuff is like, you're like 10 steps ahead. It's so good. How was your Valentine's Day?
Trisha Paytas
Oh, my God. Has it been that long?
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, I think I. You were about to. It was about to be Valentine's Day.
Trisha Paytas
How was your Valentine's Day?
Tana Mongeau
Oh, we did nothing.
Trisha Paytas
We just.
Tana Mongeau
We stayed in the house. It was great, honestly. Yeah, we.
Trisha Paytas
I'm trying to say. Oh, we. He took me to my favorite thrift and we had like a little thrift day, which Is my favorite thing in the world.
Tana Mongeau
Like, oh, you can't do nothing.
Trisha Paytas
I'll say. I'm not gonna Gatekeep Valley Value center or Valley Value Village. It's like a warehouse. And it's definitely. If you like thrifting, it's like digging, but it's just huge. And it's in la and you find the best stuff, like, for such good prices.
Tana Mongeau
So you just walked around and thrifted together.
Trisha Paytas
We walked around at the thrift. We brought our Build A Bear, and we got her, like, a little outfit too, so it was, like, super cute.
Tana Mongeau
We have clothes for.
Trisha Paytas
No, you just, like. Like, I guess, baby clothes, but I didn't get anything. I made sure there was two of anything I was getting. I don't know. I don't want to, like, take someone's, like, baby, like, something important, like, for my Build A Bear.
Tana Mongeau
It's a comfort animal. It's fine. Yeah, yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Honestly, it was that we got our little boxer shorts, little pink ones, and then we went to lunch at my favorite cafe, Sweet Butter. And I've never been.
Tana Mongeau
That's in Sherman Oaks. I always hear people talk about this.
Trisha Paytas
Don't even get me started. I wish it was my restaurant. I wish I owned it, like, in another life.
Tana Mongeau
What do you get?
Trisha Paytas
I got the chicken and waffles, and it's like, the best chicken and waffles to me in la. Like, other than Roscoe's, but, like, very different.
Tana Mongeau
Have you been to Bruxy's? No, it's in North. You've been? I've never been, but everyone keeps telling me the chicken waffles are so good.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, we should try North Hollywood.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, we did that. And then we came back, he cooked dinner, and then we painted each other. We have.
Tana Mongeau
Oh, yes, I saw that.
Trisha Paytas
We have our little tradition where we paint each other.
Tana Mongeau
Oh, my. And then his birthday was right after.
Trisha Paytas
Yes. And then we went to Cabo, and it was just so fun. I love seeing him, like, and all of his friends have so much fun and just, like, did you get back
Tana Mongeau
before the stuff happening down there now?
Trisha Paytas
It was right as it was happening, but it's not in Cabo. It's on the other side and stuff. But still just so, like, sad and scary and I hope everything is gonna be okay.
Tana Mongeau
Was Makoa's on social media Now Makoa's on social media. That's crazy. How did that happen? He's just like, I'm gonna be on it one day.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. I think that it's been Like a thing that's been being discussed for a long time now. And I think for the beginning of our relationship, for a long time, I think he wanted to make it very adamant that, like, he's, he, he knows and I know that he's not using me, but he never wanted people to perceive it that way. He was very, like, adamant about that. I also think he was a very private person and Makoa likes to really think things through. So I think that it took him a second to like, you know, like what. Because once you open those floodgates, your life changes and like a different way and stuff.
Tana Mongeau
So thank you so much to better help. This is March and March. We are celebrating International Women's Day. Is there a woman in your life who has really just gone through it, has really persevered, survived? Well, you're looking at two women, yes. Celebrating us, celebrating you.
Trisha Paytas
It is so important, just as we get older. I think about that so much. Like the women in your life are so important, you know, like, they are there to pick you up when you fall and they are there to inspire you. And like, we also understand struggles that, like, the men in our life have absolutely never could. And I mean, I get to sit across from one of the most inspiring women I've ever met all the time. And I'm so, so, so grateful, so.
Tana Mongeau
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It is the right thing to do. It is so helpful and so important. And I'm happy we were talking about that today, even in the episode.
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Trisha Paytas
A lot of him like figuring out like what would my content style want to be, like what do I want to make and like all these things and and I'm just very happy for him and very proud of him. If anyone deserves to make influencer money like it's Makoa. Like he just is such a good person and I've always seen him work so hard at other jobs, you know what I mean? And make like a much more normal pay for doing like hours and hours and hours of very hard work. So the idea of him being able to like post his surfing stuff and like he made like fun vlogs and stuff and like he just take care of his family and like do all These things I'm very. If anyone deserves influencer money, it is him.
Tana Mongeau
Did he post a vlog?
Trisha Paytas
Not yet, but he's about to filmed one. Yeah, he has like four or five.
Tana Mongeau
He's gonna do kind of do a couple content. Guess on your tick tocks. Are you gonna do like couples like challenges? I don't know how to sell.
Trisha Paytas
We started doing a series where he teaches me things like golfing and fishing. And we're about to do changing a tire. Like, it's just very funny our like, dynamic, you know, because I don't know any of these things and he like, knows every. He's very like Jack of all trades. Like, so it's been really cool. And then he did like a little surf excursion vlog, like in Mexico.
Tana Mongeau
Go.
Trisha Paytas
That was him and his voice. But I'm just, I'm so excited for him.
Tana Mongeau
He's so deserving it all creative.
Trisha Paytas
And he has so much more, I'm realizing, like, just like integrity than like, I don't know, like, I will post anything and like, you know what I mean? Like, if the YouTube video is bad, I'll get them on the next one.
Tana Mongeau
Yes.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. I'm just saying with the podcast, I'm saying whatever. Like, he's very like, even, like, he just did a brand deal and he was like, very like, he got a brand.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, ready.
Trisha Paytas
I know he just got brand deal and he was just like, very like, caring about the creative and just like, you know, wanting it to be authentic and like all these things, which obviously, like, I do too, but I think he does it to like a maximum. And I'm like, that's so cool.
Tana Mongeau
Did you see Keith Lee turn down $1 million brand deal with McDonald's is what the interviewer said. He said he was not going to say it, but he giggled when he said it. He said McDonald's. He said the biggest. One of the biggest fast food chains offered him a million dollars, but he turned it down because he doesn't eat fast food. Damn. Isn't that crazy?
Trisha Paytas
Like, how special is that level of integrity? And how refreshing is that? I mean, I'm picking up the Big Mac, right? Like, I'm not. I'm not sitting here even. I'm not even gonna remotely lie to you.
Tana Mongeau
We're doing it for free.
Trisha Paytas
I'm paying them to tag them and say hashtag out, actually. But I mean, if he doesn't eat it, you know, I guess like, oh, I don't know.
Tana Mongeau
For a million. A million dollars. Say yes to almost any brand deal. Right.
Trisha Paytas
I've had McDonald's, right?
Tana Mongeau
He's like, I never even had as a kid. Like, it just wouldn't be authentic. I was like, but everybody loves it. It's like you're selling something that people don't love. It's like crack, you know, Everybody wants it, but they just don't know.
Trisha Paytas
It is also so cool to me that some people do not live in a scarcity mindset at all. I think that a lot of, like, when it comes to my. Even, like, recently I had to turn down a deal because we just couldn't see eye to eye. And it was for $20,000. And I couldn't sleep. Like, I literally couldn't sleep because it's just like, I keep thinking about the girl that, like, couldn't afford anything and, like, the me that. And just like, I know how much that means. And then obviously I also live in scarcity. Like, this is not forever. I need to do as much as I can now and whatever. But it just, they wanted me to do something that was super, like, inauthentic to me and, like, they would not move on that and, like, whatever. And I was having all these calls and just no one could see eye to eye. And I started getting like too, because I was just like, damn. Like, I know how I could make this authentic too, like, for my viewer and make this authentic for me, but you won't let me.
Tana Mongeau
Oh, interesting.
Trisha Paytas
And, yeah, they just, they wanted me to just, like, lie, essentially. And I was just like, I, I have to turn this down. But it, like, pains me. It pains me because it's like, I know how much money that is. I know how many people would kill for that. But, like, I don't know.
Tana Mongeau
That's true. I guess I was gonna say I would, I wouldn't turn on anything. But yeah, like, I, I've turned down a Jimmy John's a couple times. And, like, I love them. I met them so many times, like Demi Lovato. Like, the people are always super nice. Like, we love you at Jimmy John's. It's just like, I. My, like, audience, I know. Like, I would never eat a sandwich. Like, I just don't eat sandwiches. So it'd be crazy for me. Like, I have this cold cut, you know what I mean? And it's huge. And Jimmy John's sponsoring everyone. And I, like, love it and shout out Jimmy John's.
Trisha Paytas
Honestly love Jimmy John's. Call me. I'll take the Trisha Trickle down economics. Call me. They really do.
Tana Mongeau
They really are like, Everywhere. And I'm just kind of like, you
Trisha Paytas
don't like it and like you turn it down, which is the right thing.
Tana Mongeau
And I was like, I know. And there was like a cool opportunity, like integration. I was like, I really. And then I remember they're like, people were like, you just eat the cookie. And I was like, it's a sandwich. Myself feel bad. I do love the cookies. I will eat cookies all day long. Like when I go to Subway. My mom would go to Subway, she'd always get me like the cookies and chips. I'm like, I'll just eat that for lunch.
Trisha Paytas
But are you okay? Question if it was a million dollars, are you eating that sub?
Tana Mongeau
I mean, yeah, I guess. But my audience will be like, she
Trisha Paytas
doesn't like I'm shoving the sub. I'm iPad. Like there, there is. I do appreciate that we have the type of fans though. I will say like even just on certain things I do sometimes where like it's a brand deal now that I'm like in my brand safe area.
Tana Mongeau
Yes.
Trisha Paytas
Where people will be like, get your bag girl. Like I appreciate that so much.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. Cuz you'll see a lot of people, they'll do it. Another ad. Like people get so mad. And then I think anytime it says paid partnership, paid partnership, you know, Cuz I will do it for free. And I do. Like I did another Domino's. One paid but then I did like three unpaid ones just to be like thank you so much.
Trisha Paytas
Domino's was lethal. It was groundbreaking. It was like I just felt so happy for you.
Tana Mongeau
Thank you. And I, I do love, first of all, I love Domino's. Obviously we know I've done 5,000 videos but I do love to. When a brand just gets you, it's all these cool like Gen Z people in there. You know, it's all young people that are just like, they just get it. And that was their idea. They're like, do you want to do a tap? Even like the little like script and stuff. Obviously I can do whatever. But like they, it was their idea. They posted a little tavern. It was very cool. I felt very cool. I felt, I felt seen. So yeah, I think what it happened
Trisha Paytas
that is the best I will say for like every brand that like still is antiquated and doesn't get the vision and stuff.
Tana Mongeau
Stuff.
Trisha Paytas
There are so many brands that are letting Gen Z iconic girls and gays run their social creatives and like understanding that the influencer knows their audience and like being so awesome. So it's cool.
Tana Mongeau
And by the way your makeup commercial that you were like, oh, guys, my acting so bad was so good. The mco, it was so good. Thank you. I was like seated. I was like sad. I would watch a whole season of it. I thought it was like AI, when you scroll through Tick Tock and you see those AI sitcoms, I'm like, like, it looks like AI for a minute.
Trisha Paytas
The goldfish felt, felt a little.
Tana Mongeau
It was so good. Your acting was so good.
Trisha Paytas
I love you in a way that I can't even put into words.
Tana Mongeau
Really good.
Trisha Paytas
I will say I, I, I took it because I love mco. I use, I use their blush today. Like I use their stuff every single day and I love them. So it was an honor and like it was a $500,000 if not upwards production. The amount of people, the amount of locations, the amount of everything, like, it was very cool to feel a part of something that like done so big and to be taken so like, you know, they were taking me so seriously and taking care of me so well and stuff makes a difference. I would love, I hope in the future MCO and I can come together and do like a little Get Ready with me series or something that's a little more, feels more in my wheelhouse. But it was nice to get out of my wheelhouse too.
Tana Mongeau
I do love it. Yeah. I think sometimes in that I like when people think outside of the box. You're like, well, I don't really want to do this, but this kind of sounds fun. And you can't you be. Yeah. All your friends in there too. 8 Like, everyone was like, yeah, they were like, I loved it.
Trisha Paytas
They were very sweet and like the people were very sweet. I think I just like, I don't know. I even took another meeting the other day with like a huge company about potential acting stuff and I was just like, please just, just know, just know that I. My ceiling is low.
Tana Mongeau
You're so good. I think you underestimate yourself. You're actually so good at it.
Trisha Paytas
I think that if there was ever like a script that felt really authentic to me and like things I would say or something I really cared about so that I could take the acting less and like really lock in like I would do it.
Tana Mongeau
You know what I mean?
Trisha Paytas
But when it comes to just like, I'm always gonna love the like personality and like witty off the cuff thing more than the scripted thing just cause I, I suck at it.
Tana Mongeau
That's so not true. Because you are in your acting area. You did the one with the guy from Slang Sunset. Now you did the mco. Now you're doing, like, this other project maybe, so it's kind of wild.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, my God. I'm trying. I mean, you inspire me very much so to try not to beat myself up too much and try to just, like, you know, be grateful for everything that's coming my way, which I am beyond. I can't, like, you know, just, like, it feels so amazing to feel so seen.
Tana Mongeau
Take everything. I just, like, take everything. Like I said. Unless it's, like, inauthentic or something that. But I just, like, take everything, even if I'm scared of it. I'm like, you know what? This will be fun.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. That was kind of where I was at. I was like, this is very much so out of my comfort zone. And I'm not gonna lie. Like, even watching it was. It was hard for me. Like, if it was someone else, like, if it was you reading those exact lines doing that, I would watch it and consume it and feel the exact same way you feel. Like, I'm so proud of her and, like, all the things. But watching myself do it, I was
Tana Mongeau
like, okay, just post it.
Trisha Paytas
Like, I don't know. I love their makeup, though. I can't stress that enough.
Tana Mongeau
They're, like, done and done.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Tana Mongeau
No, but I. We were talking about this right before, too, because you're doing a college speaking engagement coming up soon, and I just did mine, and I, like, love it. And I, like, was so nervous. I was like, I'm not. Not smart. I don't know. I don't. I don't think I'm, like, very articulate anymore. I do like stuff.
Trisha Paytas
And also, you looked amazing. I saw the Louboutins.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. Oh, I was gonna tell you. They're actually so comfortable. I wore the whole day, the whole night. And I hate heels. Like, I've never worn heels. And, yeah, I did. I'm glad I did, because it was full body, and I was like, okay, let me wear these heels. But it was actually, like, so much fun, and, like, that's all I want to do. I'm like, I want to just be a college speaker.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. I'm actually. I'm really excited to try it. And I really do love when our lives go parallel like this and we get to, like, be there for each other and hype each other up and, like, tell each other how things go.
Tana Mongeau
Even last night, there was a thing, and, well, we can't tell you too much, but the person. I. I really. I was thinking about going, but then they're like, oh, Tana's gonna be there. So then I text Hannah. I'm like, are you going? I need to know. And then I really wanted to just like, hang out. If it was glam and I had a sitter and it wasn't like more, less than 24 hour notice, I would have gone, but.
Trisha Paytas
And the way that I'm just like the friend, I go bring the kids. Come on. And it's like, I can't bring three kids to this Tana, like, one day.
Tana Mongeau
I mean, that will be cool when I can bring like, Malibu is my plus one. Yes.
Trisha Paytas
Oh, that's. I kept thinking because, oh, my God, I want Malibu to come so bad. We have to, like, educate her on all things.
Tana Mongeau
It's so funny. I know. I feel like that's when I realized, like, the like, literal decade gap between us because I'm like, oh, you know, we always kind of go through the same stuff because we did, like, social media together at the same time. And then it's like, yeah, when stuff like that comes up, I'm kind of like, oh, I feel maybe I'm a little.
Trisha Paytas
We love to the like a Pam Anderson and different things and like.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
But then like, even like, might be like Broadway for you, where it's like this thing that we're kind of like the other one loves and we tell the other one about. And I think that's good too, in friendship to have.
Tana Mongeau
Oh, for sure. No. Through so many people, I've been getting obsessed and I'm like, okay, I think maybe I need this era. It's kind of like Lady Gaga. So many people around me, like, love Lady Gaga. I'm like, maybe I need to have like, an era of her.
Trisha Paytas
I think that, like, she went through so much in the media. She was so slighted so many times. Like, and just the way that people. The fact that she is now at this, it's almost like the way I imagine people feel about us. Like, seeing us in our, like, fully healed, like, growth arc. That's how I see it. I'm like, the fact that you've circled back so hard that now you have love for, you know.
Tana Mongeau
Right, right. Because a lot of people don't. A lot of people have that nostalgia. But it is, it's, I guess also people are leaning into it like Lizzie McGuire or Hilary Duff and like Jonas Brothers. Like, everyone is kind of like, leaning back into it because that's what people love. It's like the nostalgia of it. I feel it makes them feel cozy. You had said that you, like, started YouTube because of. You're like, I.
Trisha Paytas
Well, it was one of the reasons, I think that I talk about it a lot in my book. I spent so much time watching, and this was before YouTube, in a turbulent household and mentally escaping there. Like, I wanted to be in that living room. I wanted to be my dad. I wanted her. I, like, that was my, like, happy place that I almost went to as like a seven, an eight, nine year old. So, like, I can't talk about anything else, but just like, oh, my God, I never thought. I never thought in a million years, like yesterday might have been one of the most nostalgic, incredible days of my life. But yeah.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, it was crazy. That full circle, cozy feeling.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. And like, I'm just, I'm so excited even just as a consumer, like, just to, like, watch it all and see it all.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, no, I know. I'm trying to get it. I think I'll try and get into it.
Trisha Paytas
It is like, I don't know, I need to go back and, like, watch it and see because I haven't sat down and watched in a very long time. But I think I will love it. But it's the nostalgia.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
I don't. You know what I mean?
Tana Mongeau
I think you'd still love it.
Trisha Paytas
Yes. Also, can I just tell you something random? This is like super random. But I just like, I forgot. I was like, I want to tell her this. So you have been saying to me for so long, like, and you. It's. It's been on this podcast, like, we can clip it. We can, whatever. Yeah. Like, and it all started with the AI videos of Tanacon. Right. You were like, we, you need to do it on Broadway. You need to do a show. There's going to be a. Like, you go find the clips of Trisha L saying, there's going to be a Tanacon, like, show or movie or whatever. And I got a call the other day, a major call, and I can't talk too much about it, but it ended up, like, ending in them kind of saying, like, write us something about a movie or a show about an influencer having a convention. Literally on the call, I say, I don't mean to, like, break the wall here right now. We're having a serious meeting. But Trisha Paytas has been telling me for so long that I'm going to do this. And, like, chills, isn't that kind of wild? Like, it's really the way that, like, anything she says comes true.
Tana Mongeau
Well, it's also, you, like, you are so good.
Trisha Paytas
Like, you're in a million years that I think anyone would ever have interest in me, like writing a show or a movie.
Tana Mongeau
Oh, that to me is like the. Like, I feel like you could do a whole book just on Tanakhan. Like, it's so. I told you. Like, I was like, I totally don't remember it because obviously 2019 was a rough year for me. I was out of it. But. But like, watching when we rewatched on Patreon, I was like, this is like. This is like a movie. This doesn't feel real. This feels like there's like a saga. So then when I saw people do the AI on TikTok of like, the Broadway musicals, like, wait, but that kind of works as a Broadway musical too, because they did the Anna Nicole life story on Broadway and it was so chaotic and, like, messy. But what really. I think RuPaul's like, doing one on Broadway where it's just like a one night of his life. And I feel like when it's just a section of your life rather than your whole life. Yeah, especially. Cause you're still living and you're still like so much of you. I think it's like. But you're. You're enough removed. This is your Hannah Montana. This is like your like 20 year later Tanaka or 10 year later. When.
Trisha Paytas
What?
Tana Mongeau
20, 19. So, yeah, almost 10 years.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Tana Mongeau
So by the time you write it, you produce it, everything like that.
Trisha Paytas
That's kind of crazy what's gonna come from it. But it's just like, even if like three weeks ago you were like, saying what you've been saying to me, like, I never thought in a million years I would get that call. And I was just like, oh, my God, I need to start having Trisha say the most outlandish. Because, like, it. It's so insane.
Tana Mongeau
Like, you're so easy because they like, everything you do is so good. So I was like, oh, I see this, I see this. It's like so, you know, and then the more.
Trisha Paytas
I mean, it's funny because when we were talking about, I was like, no, I would never do that. I could whatever. But I was like, I could see, like, especially. I love la. Really did inspire me.
Tana Mongeau
Yes.
Trisha Paytas
Like, comedy like that, like the idea of a show or like a movie or something, and the opening scene is like a girl trying to film an apology video. And like, we've never seen that, like, done in anything. And like, like, well, there's comedy in it, but also, like, depth in it. Like, it's very interesting relatable.
Tana Mongeau
Because I do love the idea that, like, not to bring up Shane, but like, Shane is doing that, like canceling. I like the idea. I just wish it was more like relatable to him. He has like this like female influence or actress that gets canceled. It's like, I get it, you're in this fear, but let's do it more on you, you know what I mean? Like what as I would do with me as you're doing with Tanacon. It's like, because that's what people like would want to see. You know what I mean is like, let's see a conspiracy theory guy who like got canceled because he wanted to do makeup. And it's like, you know what I mean? And like, it's like have Jacob story as play you, like, whatever. But like the fact that you just did this, you know, a different route. I don't know.
Trisha Paytas
It is very cool when you see anyone. I love seeing like influencers do something that is like, so even, like Quinlan Blackwell and I love L. A or something. Like playing something or do even Jake Shane show being like all about his life. Almost like his own.
Tana Mongeau
Yes.
Trisha Paytas
His own, like, hacks, you know? Yeah. Like, that is so cool to me. So I don't know what's going to come from it or like, if anything. But I just think I'm saying I had to tell you because you been the only person ever to say like. Like, I don't know, it's. I guess as I get more removed, I can see how there could be something there.
Tana Mongeau
It is hard when it's your own life.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Tana Mongeau
Like, you're like, what?
Trisha Paytas
And I don't want to glamorize it. That was always my thing. I never want to like, glamorize my wrongdoing, so. But I think it's cool if it was authentic, you know, I think that's
Tana Mongeau
why you're perfect for it, because you don't and you're very honest about it.
Trisha Paytas
Just so interesting. You're the queen manifester.
Tana Mongeau
Oh, my God. That is gonna be crazy that I'm so excited. Well, I'm very happy. Did you see Wuthering Heights?
Trisha Paytas
I haven't yet. Have you? Ladies, do you know a man in your life who has changed as he's gotten older?
Tana Mongeau
Too many older men. Oh, let's start there. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Maybe he could have used this, you know what I mean? I honestly do. I have had a lot of girlfriends who have talked about that, like my boyfriend over a long time. Like his motivation has changed, his sex drive has changed. Like certain things have changed as he's gotten older. And sometimes that can be related to testosterone.
Tana Mongeau
Low testosterone levels don't just happen to older men either. Sometimes as early in your early 30s it can happen. And you may feel sluggish. You feel like you said, maybe feel unmotivated. And, and this kind of stuff you think about when females talk about it, but when men experience it, they don't know what's going on. And sometimes it's because they have low testosterone.
Trisha Paytas
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Tana Mongeau
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Trisha Paytas
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Tana Mongeau
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Tana Mongeau
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Trisha Paytas
Lab rap Makoa. I'm about to make him try this. I mean this, this can just be great in general, like a higher sex drive and motivation and mood.
Tana Mongeau
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Trisha Paytas
Yeah. So many gays in our life too.
Tana Mongeau
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Tana Mongeau
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Trisha Paytas
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Tana Mongeau
We got you guys here. Here's your Mars Men. Yes. I loved it, but the Internet kind of hates it, so I don't know. I wanted to hear your take. I did my whole take on Just trash, but I did love it.
Trisha Paytas
I want to see it so bad. I need to go. Would you, Would you see it again?
Tana Mongeau
Yes. It's kind of long in the two and a half hours, which I love.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Were you crying a lot right at the end?
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, bawling at the end. And I don't cry at movies. I'm like, not a cry.
Trisha Paytas
Really.
Tana Mongeau
I think I've cried all I could cry, so I like, never cry. And I was like, oh, my God, what the hell happened?
Trisha Paytas
That's what I like. Like, I. I just have to be. That's why I've been putting it off. Like, I'll go see anything in theaters if it's not like crying crying movies. I have to, like, make sure I'm in the right headspace because they will.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
I just watched this movie called Eternity and it's marketed as a comedy, by the way, and I have a big discrepancy with this.
Tana Mongeau
Okay, who's in it? I never heard of this.
Trisha Paytas
Miles Teller is in it. Callum Turner is in it, and the main girl is Elizabeth with Olsen. And I have such A big discrepancy with movies that are not comedies being marketed as comedies. Like, Click Adam Sandler. That's not a comedy to me. I'm so sorry. It is devastating. Even like, the Truman show, my old. With Aubrey Plaza. Like, these movies are being marketed as comedies or romcoms, and it's like they devastate me for, like, months. So we put it on to watch it and it was like, I'll save, like, the whole story. But basically, like, husband and wife both die and of old age and they're like, in eternity, like, this. This place that's called eternity. And they get to, like, pick where they want to go to Eternity Forever. And the husband and wife were married for, like, 30 years, but she was married before him and he died in the war. And then she found out that her first husband had been waiting for her her in the, like, holding place of eternity for, like, 60 years for her to die. And then she has to, like, choose between them. And I was like, this is not a comedy. This is devastating. She ended up picking her.
Tana Mongeau
Spoiler alert.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, spoiler alert.
Tana Mongeau
I love a spoiler.
Trisha Paytas
She ended up picking her husband that she had her kids with in the later half of her life. But, like, just because she had spent her whole life yearning for what could have been with the first husband. So I think she got there and she was very, very excited to, like, see him again. And then they're all young again, so she's seeing herself young again and he's young again. And yeah, she was just very, like, excited at first at the idea of, like, what could have been with them. And then they go try out what eternity would look like forever. And she's like, wait, but.
Tana Mongeau
Oh, you can try it out.
Trisha Paytas
Well, no, she, like, escapes. It's like a whole thing, but, like, escape eternity. I don't. She was in, like, a black hole void. Going back, though, to, like, get her original or her, like, long husband. And it was devastating dating. And I was like, this is not a comedy.
Tana Mongeau
And they market.
Trisha Paytas
I'm sitting with Ty. We smoke. Like, let's put on, like, a rom com at all. I sobbed for two hours. So, yeah, and then I thought about it. I wrote about it. I was just like. It put me in, like, one of those.
Tana Mongeau
I didn't see a tick tock.
Trisha Paytas
I put one up. Just being like, stop marketing movies as comedies like that are not comedies.
Tana Mongeau
That's what I love about you. Like, when you have a thought you, like, want to, like, obviously when it's not, like, drama, you're like, I'm gonna share this.
Trisha Paytas
No, I need to make a spam account for, like, all my little thoughts.
Tana Mongeau
Do that. I always do that. You user 6639.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, I like. Well, I treat my main account like a spam account. I think a lot of influencers. Yeah, like, a lot of influencers make a spam to put the spam on. But, like, my spam is on my main.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. Why do they do it separately?
Trisha Paytas
But I've been wanting a second account. I think I'm gonna, like, try a second account. But as a beauty guru, like, I want to, I want to share all my, like, beauty and fashion and, like, thoughts on, like, a second account. I don't know.
Tana Mongeau
Why don't you do that on the main and do the spam on the spam account?
Trisha Paytas
Because I think if I just switched up on my main to, like, get ready with me and, like, like, I love this blush, everyone would be like, okay, tell us your opinion on it. And, you know, like, I don't know.
Tana Mongeau
Oh, you know who saw our episode last weekend? DM'd me on TikTok. Maybe she DM'd you. Did Abby Young DM you? She DM me and said, I saw you and Tana talking about my method.
Trisha Paytas
Abby Young, the hair method. I was like, who is this? That is the problem, too, with, like, the way we just, like, talk and talk and talk. I literally go, who the is that?
Tana Mongeau
You brought it up last time.
Trisha Paytas
Yes, literally, I brought it up. And I'm sitting here going, trisha, who. Who the is that?
Tana Mongeau
No, I'm all about it now because I, I, I was following Jaclyn Hills, which maybe, I guess it depends on your hair type, so you should do different ones. And I was flying Jacqueline's. So that's why I've been wearing wigs. I'm like, oh, I feel like my hair is so healthy. I just want to keep it healthy.
Trisha Paytas
But.
Tana Mongeau
But then she DM me and she, oh, I'd love to come up with a hair plan for you. But she asked like, is it dry? Is it damaged? Is it oily? She has all these questions. So I guess it's like a specific thing to you. In her ds, she was like, I thought you had to talking about, I would love to do a method for
Trisha Paytas
you need to know. So I'm relapsing on hair extensions, though.
Tana Mongeau
No, I'm relapsing on hair extensions this
Trisha Paytas
Monday at 3:00pm don't do it.
Tana Mongeau
You said you always listen to me. Don't cuz your hair. You can always put clip ins in every day of your life, but your hair is so gorge. Do you feel light and just like
Trisha Paytas
I. I did right, like, and I have like all these months, I've been very happy. I loved my little box.
Tana Mongeau
It's so cute right now.
Trisha Paytas
I was having so much fun with it. And maybe this is the dysmorphia. But lately I just, just I am so dysmorphic, like no matter how. And I can't style it to save my life. And I could style long style.
Tana Mongeau
This looks so good.
Trisha Paytas
This is me trying to style it, but I don't feel pixie magic.
Tana Mongeau
It's not giving Baywatch, it's giving every. Like, it's so gorgeous.
Trisha Paytas
She is the best ultimate hype woman.
Tana Mongeau
Like, you look like you could just go jump in the ocean. What about when you go to like Maui and you're just like, yes, Maui's fine.
Trisha Paytas
But like, I just miss like feeling. I want hair I can sit on. I miss feeling. I miss like the spray tan and the. I'm not gonna revert fully. I'm not gonna like go get a bleach and tone.
Tana Mongeau
I'm not gon.
Trisha Paytas
I just need a little bit more kindness I think right now, literally for my mental health.
Tana Mongeau
Okay. Okay. I'm trying sewing wefts.
Trisha Paytas
I'm gonna see if I could do the Abby Young method even with them.
Tana Mongeau
Did you ever know? Yeah. I mean, Yes. I don't mind a weft.
Trisha Paytas
Okay. Were they. Was your hair healthy with them or no?
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, the problem is it just pulls on your hair. So like when you're styling, it's just gonna pull no matter what. And your hair is so nice for just like getting all your extensions out and stuff. Like it is so nice and healthy.
Trisha Paytas
Always, always feels like like, I washed this last night. It looks greasy. I can't get it to hold the curl without burning these little haze more.
Tana Mongeau
The ends are so nice. Like mine is like split ends all the time. Like yours is so nice and shiny. Like I'm actually feed this to a horse. No, you're dysmorphic and I'm telling you the truth. Because I'd be like, yeah, me too, girl, me too. But like, no, it's not. It's like these pieces are nice and long. It's like mine do not grow here. Like your hair is so nice. I get it. If it's for your mental health, do it.
Trisha Paytas
But yeah, I get what you're saying. Like, and it might be because it's like, even if I saw it on someone else, I would. I would be like, that's so cute. Like, I love a little, like, longer a lob on someone else. I don't know what it is. Lately I'm just looking in the mirror and I'm like, I need to serve tonight. And no matter how many, many things I do, I, like, can't get. I don't know, I can't get there.
Tana Mongeau
I can be like that with, like, my real hair. I think, like, the thing, like, last night, I think, like, that was my issue is I couldn't. It was so last minute to find, like, a sitter and glam. Like, I need glam if I go out. Like, I cannot do my own hair. Hair. I don't mind my hair, like, just hanging whatever for going out. But, like, if it's like an event, I can't do it to save my life.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. And I'm just like, I don't know. I don't know what it is. I. It is. The dysmorphia is winning, but I'm hoping some 22 inch extensions will be an SSRI for me for like, 22 weeks. Yeah, I need them, but I'll take them out in like, a couple weeks. Like, I'm just gonna. I feel like, okay, then do clip ins. Is that what you're gonna say?
Tana Mongeau
Well, I feel like that's like the problem when you take them in and out, it's like so stressful in your hair. But, you know, do you. You. That's the only thing I would say. That's my only strong opinion.
Trisha Paytas
But I know when I could just. I'll be young and hold on, but I'm really.
Tana Mongeau
I'll be young and hold on for seven months, they say. And you go like, I've seen people. I'm on the side of you on Tik Tok, where people have like these, like. I think it was. We were talking about an influencer. Well, we can say. I don't know.
Trisha Paytas
She.
Tana Mongeau
She was showing her bald spot and she had, like, a really bad one and she was showing, like, how her hair had grew. I think she was using the doctor grew. I think we talked about that before and how it grew so much. I really been seeing even Jaclyn, hers was like. She shows her fried ones before and then after the Abby Young. She's like, shiny and full and.
Trisha Paytas
I know. I guess I've just been holding on. It's been like, you're right. But I have an Abby Young. Do you know, literally, I need to get on it. And I'm gonna message her. I'm. Yeah. You know what I will say, though, that I keep seeing. I don't know if you've been seeing, but you just said Dr. Groot and people are doing the thing where they use our clips with Tick Tock affiliate links.
Tana Mongeau
Yes.
Trisha Paytas
And it, like, it doesn't. I don't think it would bother me if I was also a TikTok linker. Yeah. Like, if I was.
Tana Mongeau
You should be.
Trisha Paytas
I know. And then I did it. And then everyone's like, what are you, broke? And I was like, okay. Everyone's coming at me. And I was like, oh, my God. Like, no. I'm just so tired of seeing people get, like, our bag.
Tana Mongeau
Can I tell you? Like, I do it kind of just for kicks. I really. Unless you guys. Okay, I'm being 100% real with you guys. Unless there's, like, another place to go get the money out. Like, I make no money after shop. Unless I'm not looking at the right spot, like, if you have to withdraw it yourself. Because I don't make any.
Trisha Paytas
Like, I don't make money on Tick Tock really, either. It's small amounts.
Tana Mongeau
Tick Tock, I think, sent me, like, 800, like, last month or something.
Trisha Paytas
Exactly. I. Whenever people, like, my creator fund pays all my bills, they. Not me.
Tana Mongeau
None. None. And Tick Tock Shop. Like, I get a lot of views because I think they can use it as ads. Like, when I use the waist trainer, I just do it for fun now because I always have that waist trainer on. So I'm like, oh. And I was like, I'll just link it. So unless I. Maybe I have a stash somewhere and I don't know, someone can maybe help
Trisha Paytas
me, because I think we'll help you. TikTok shop, he knows everything.
Tana Mongeau
I've made, like, not that much money on there, but the creator fund, like, I won't point. Close your eyes. Exhale.
Trisha Paytas
Feel your body relax.
Tana Mongeau
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Let's do this.
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Trisha Paytas
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Trisha Paytas
a lot of money. I think my videos get flagged a lot too. I think that like, I don't know, I don't have same with my YouTube. Like my monetization on YouTube. Like, I know that I'm on the lowest tier. I know that with every like YouTube monetization other than Snapchat, I guess. But YouTube monetization and Tik Tok monetization, I don't, I make. I make like crumbs. You know what I mean?
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, I guess I haven't checked my YouTube. I don't ever post there, but I probably should post there. But Tik Tok, I just love, I just do love a Tik Tok.
Trisha Paytas
I love making Tik Toks more than anything. I can't believe there are influencers who are making like hundreds of thousands a month on TikTok. And I would love to learn how to how the live streamers. But that's, that's maybe when I'm like 40 other things to know. 5, 45, 50.
Tana Mongeau
At 50, you're gonna be like on the Tik Tok.
Trisha Paytas
I'm just panhandling. It's everything I talk about. 25. I'm kidding. No, literally. Literally. Back in my day I had a convention. I. I often romanticize being 60 and just actually like, oh yeah. Do you ever do that? Like romanticize being 65, you know that you know where you're at in life, you know, you're almost done with social media or just like what it doesn't all anymore. Like I think I'll still be on social media my whole life. I don't know but and just exposing the. Out of people who deserve it that you never have. Like out of fear, out of just not wanting the drama or whatever.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. But like, also those people just like might be dead by then. So will it feel as good?
Trisha Paytas
You know what? True. You know what?
Tana Mongeau
True. We're not around to see it. Like, I want you to feel it. I want you to see it.
Trisha Paytas
That is so true. Like, by the time I'm 65, half of the people I'd want to be exposing may have crow.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, for sure. For sure. So that's why I was like, I'll
Trisha Paytas
just probably hold a lot of it in and that's okay.
Tana Mongeau
Are we also. Are we doing our song? We have to do it. I'm gone.
Trisha Paytas
I thought you were gonna say also, are we doing calls?
Tana Mongeau
I don't think we're doing calls this time.
Trisha Paytas
And we should talk about our song though.
Tana Mongeau
Okay.
Trisha Paytas
Like, because I. Yes. We're doing our song.
Tana Mongeau
We gotta get on it.
Trisha Paytas
I know we do.
Tana Mongeau
We have our show.
Trisha Paytas
We have our show. We have a show in Vegas.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Can we say it?
Tana Mongeau
I don't know if we should say exactly what, where yet. Okay.
Trisha Paytas
Where and the date. But just like maybe think about it being hot outside and think. Thinking of. Think about your girls and you going.
Tana Mongeau
We've been performing. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Tana Mongeau
They really should just give us a year long residency that we've. Well, you were there four times last year or three times.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Okay. Cosmopolitan.
Tana Mongeau
And we love the Cosmos.
Trisha Paytas
Trisha and I got booked for a duo show and I'm like, so excited. It's such an honor. There is a big part. I never want to like, set my expectations too high and get disappointed. Like, no matter what, if we just do this one show, it's an honor. It's going to be so much fun. I'm so excited to go to Vegas with you. When it's not pouring rain.
Tana Mongeau
Like, it's knock on wood. Yes.
Trisha Paytas
But I'm so, so, so excited. And like, there is a major part of me that is manifesting it going well and a residency happening. Like, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't. I'm unbanned from the wind now, girl. We're going to Vegas.
Tana Mongeau
How did that happen? I saw it. Was it Holly? Is it Holly? No way. What did she do? How did she know?
Trisha Paytas
First of all, Holly Madison is just so iconic, of course, but like, also selfless and kind. It's like, you did not have to like go to the lengths of the moon to get me unbanned from the Wind. Like, I definitely put out that tik tok begging, hoping someone would. I didn't think that, but the power that she holds. I am finally unbanned from the Win. And I'm so. I. Like, I've been screaming about it, like, utterly. Just in a battle back then. I keep saying that the way I feel about getting unbanned from the Win has to be how people feel when they graduate college.
Tana Mongeau
Like, you're like, this is the day.
Trisha Paytas
Like, this is my big day. I've been yearning for this for years. I've tried everything. I put. It's not how people feel when they
Tana Mongeau
graduate from college feeling more like Easter. Like Jesus resurrection. Like, he was, like, hung on the cross and then he rose again. Like, you're still alive.
Trisha Paytas
Rising again at the Wind. I'm getting married at the Win. I'm like, I'm just. So what are we gonna do?
Tana Mongeau
What is that the Win? What can we do there? I don't know.
Trisha Paytas
The best shopping is at the Win. The best restaurants at the Win. They also have the. The best hotel bed ever. Like, the sleep at the Wind is insane. And it's one of those things, too, where, like, I've had years to think about this, you know, I've had years to think about all the things I love and miss about the Wind. So I'm definitely excited to, like, make some YouTube videos, doing all my favorite old favorite things there. Excess is the best club on the Strip.
Tana Mongeau
Like, wow, you're really. You're really going for that sponsorship for Win.
Trisha Paytas
And it's just the truth. I've always had to be like, when did it end?
Tana Mongeau
When.
Trisha Paytas
When did it end? About that, because it's like, it's undeniably the best. Like, you know, and I just had to, like, find my. My other best. Their other.
Tana Mongeau
We should give them a shout out in our song.
Trisha Paytas
We should. I should probably give Resorts World or Cosmo. Yeah. People who have, like, you know, taken it there for me.
Tana Mongeau
But.
Trisha Paytas
And I still love those hotels. I'm just very excited to get to set foot there. Oh, my God, I love Holly.
Tana Mongeau
No Holly. I always will say that. She is also, like, every time we've had a birthday party for. We did it for Malibu first, for Elvis's first. She comes up with, like, these gift baskets that are so insane and so, like, literally, for Malibu's first birthday, she collected every single Malibu Barbie that's ever been made since, like, 1965 to, like, 1970.
Trisha Paytas
She's just so thoughtful. Is such a Great word. Like, those people. And I try to be that person and sprinkle it into my life.
Tana Mongeau
You are.
Trisha Paytas
But it, like, it definitely is. Like, Holly just does it so naturally and always, and it's so inspiring. Like, just, like. And she doesn't have to do that. She doesn't. Everything she does, she doesn't have to do. And, like, just such an icon, too. Even seeing her, like, I just saw her tick tock where she was, like, still exposing more Playboy stuff.
Tana Mongeau
Did you see that?
Trisha Paytas
And I was just like, I just. Her. I love that. Like, she rides for what's right. She rides for her friend. She's just. I'm. I'm so grateful.
Tana Mongeau
No, and we had talked last time I saw her when I was doing her. She has a new podcast coming out. When I did her podcast, she was saying about Disney, and I'm like, we really need to take Tana because, like, we. There's, like, love Disney so much, I think. I feel like you haven't experienced Disney, like, the right way.
Trisha Paytas
You're so right. I really haven't.
Tana Mongeau
But she's like, an elevated level where she's like, Club 33. And it's like, I've always wanted to do Disney with her, so she's like, well, any day you guys want to go, we should really have to, like, plan.
Trisha Paytas
Yes.
Tana Mongeau
I'll text in the group.
Trisha Paytas
I would literally love to.
Tana Mongeau
When we did the Madonna, and it's been, like, two years now, but that was, like, so much fun. I'm like, I need another, like, girls day.
Trisha Paytas
And we all were not, like, we were almost like, starting our friendship there.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Like, that was very, like, you know, and, like, feeling like we're all like, he. Like, okay. Like, you know, like, nervous a little. Like, you know.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. I used to always get nervous, actually. I write about her in my book. Like, weirdly, like, I write about. So, like, there's, like, a lot of people that didn't make the book. But then there's like, Holly, and I'm just like, oh, it's, like, so crazy because I talk about girls next door, like, being such. Like, now I'm, like, friends with her. Yeah. And I don't get. I get nervous on anyone. I get nervous when I see you. But then, like, after a while, then I'm like, okay, it's, like, normal, but,
Trisha Paytas
like, now we would just have so much more of a Kiki at something like that, which is cool.
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I did not. I do know who wins. Okay. Okay.
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I've never met him.
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He's like, really?
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Trisha Paytas
We have a lot of, like, mutuals and stuff.
Tana Mongeau
She's like, been into his, like, snake ranch. I was like, all right.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. They'd be such a cute couple. I've been shipping them from the jump. But now he has a girlfriend of two months. Yes.
Tana Mongeau
Oh, that moved fast.
Trisha Paytas
That is. I don't like starting companies with someone you've been dating for two months. Horrifies me. That's wild.
Tana Mongeau
That's only. Don't do that. That's definitely crazy. Even if you do think you're gonna be forever, like, wait, that year. Then I also just hated him after I. I never really liked him. He always kind of gave me. Like, in the. After the finale, I was like, I actually hate. Hate him. Like, and the fact that. Huh. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Really, I haven't. I'm not up to date on Traders at all. Grey's Anatomy, I'm back. It's. It's the only thing I care about. No one can recommend media to me right now. Like, people like, you should watch this. I'm like, perfect. In six months, when I finish Grays, I will watch it.
Tana Mongeau
Oh, but that's sad, though.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, but I love it. Like, I just can't stop it, so. And I got Mokoa on it.
Tana Mongeau
Maybe that's the problem. Maybe you're watching all these sad medical things
Trisha Paytas
dying every day. This show that I'm obsessed with and it's. It does make me think about mortality a lot more than, like, sometimes that happens.
Tana Mongeau
When I was watching Stranger Things, like, I watched one season of it, I really did feel, like, demonic, like, hearing voices, and I was like, maybe you need to not watch this.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, I want to watch it so bad because I love Miss Millie, but I'm not a sci Fi girl.
Tana Mongeau
Who's Miss Millie?
Trisha Paytas
Millie. Bobby Brown. Oh, my God.
Tana Mongeau
I thought we were talking about Grey's Anatomy and I was like, who's that? Yes.
Trisha Paytas
I love Who's Miss Millie? Like, it's Ms. Rachel. I love saying.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, that was kind of crazy. I do.
Trisha Paytas
You know that?
Tana Mongeau
I love Millie.
Trisha Paytas
Bobby Brown runs like a animal. Like foster, like, sanctuary. She's been giving me all this advice on Buster and, like, different stuff.
Tana Mongeau
Oh, really? Does that?
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Tana Mongeau
Where is it in here in la? Or is it somewhere else?
Trisha Paytas
I don't know. She saved over 300 dogs, though. Like, that's so cool. And she's so young.
Tana Mongeau
I know.
Trisha Paytas
22, and she's, like, ruling the world
Tana Mongeau
as kids and marriage and.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Tana Mongeau
Kim enjoys a grasshopper too. He always saves dogs.
Trisha Paytas
He always saves dogs. I know. I think that's so cool. I think that I'm Learning with Buster that. That as much as I love him, that that might be more of my calling is continuing to foster dogs and getting them ready to find them a home. I love him. It's gonna be devastating. Our. Our foster period is almost up. I'm not, like, 100 sure. But I just want to do what's right for him. And I go to Hawaii a lot. And time.
Tana Mongeau
You're really busy.
Trisha Paytas
I'm just super busy. And I think that I've gotten him so ready for a home where people have more of a routine. But I'm gonna. That's gonna. Yeah.
Tana Mongeau
You did a lot of the hard stuff. You did a lot of the.
Trisha Paytas
It got him neutered and all the things and just showing him so much love. But. Yeah.
Tana Mongeau
Oh, your shirt says Chateau Marmont this whole time. I like your shirt. I didn't realize this at that. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
But I ordered it. And two things. I actually. I ordered this on Depop. It was supposed to be blue. It's coral. I'm not a big coral.
Tana Mongeau
You said that about another shirt.
Trisha Paytas
It was also supposed to be blue. I'm getting. And then I bought these on Depop. Look how cute these are. They're Dolce and Gabbana. Little reading glasses. This one's just on me, though. They're fully prescription. Like, I can't wear them or I get a headache. Like, you're zoomed in. Did they say that? So I let.
Tana Mongeau
No, you can pop out the lenses and put in different ones.
Trisha Paytas
I'm going to. I brought them here today, literally, just to show the class. I got some shows.
Tana Mongeau
They're so cute. Oh, my God. That's adorable.
Trisha Paytas
But they, like, give me a migraine, obviously, because I have good enough vision.
Tana Mongeau
I love you in your Depop era.
Trisha Paytas
I know I do. Just makes me feel better, like, about my shopping problem, at least, knowing.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, we went to. I've never been. I've been to the Chateau Marmont once, but I've never been to the bar next door. Have you ever been there? The bar Maman or whatever. It's like, tiny and little.
Trisha Paytas
Yes.
Tana Mongeau
We went there for an afters. I never done an after party before. And I was like, oh, my God. After. I did the tar. Yummy video. She was telling me about afters. Like, what's after? She gets an after party. All right, so we got invited to an after party, and I was like, you know what? We're already out. Let's go. We end up saying, like, 10 minutes. But I don't get these at all. I do not get them at all. Like, literally, like, people just stand around and drink 100%.
Trisha Paytas
But I'm not an afters girl.
Tana Mongeau
Now everyone's, like, looking around. I'm just like, this is.
Trisha Paytas
I'm like, in la, everyone is, I think afters in a lot of. Even New York afters are a lot more. People are dancing and making out and being, like, fun and, like, I see that in la, the afters are very much like, who's here? Everyone's coked out, like, and just, like, panning the room with their eyes and, like, bulging out of their head.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
I haven't been, I don't think maybe to, like, one or two after parties since I went sober in la, because there isn't much more to do than, like, drink or find someone to go home with, but I don't have that.
Tana Mongeau
Well, this is a lot of old people, so I don't know if that was happening there. I just remember being like, we were just stuck like this, and we don't drink. Me and Mo's don't drink. So we're just like. We're just like, shoulder to shoulder. We're just like, should we go? I was like, well, let me get some pictures first. So I, like, went the bathroom, took a picture. Like, I was. I went in the staircase and took a picture. I'm like, let me just show that I'm out. And then we left in, like, five minutes. And I literally. Our driver was just like, oh, I. Like, I haven't. Because, you know, there's like, a little line for drop off, and he has. He hadn't even gotten out the line yet. He's like, oh, I'm still here. I was like, we're coming out.
Trisha Paytas
Yes, That's. It's real.
Tana Mongeau
Like, John Stamos, but, oh, my God, we saw him with David Dobrik. I was gonna tell him I saw
Trisha Paytas
you, David o', Brick, but that is so funny. I just started trying to watch Fuller House.
Tana Mongeau
Why?
Trisha Paytas
I don't know. I have no idea. Just to, like. I was watching so much Grays. I needed something that was, like, the opposite, like, light. And I was like, let me just see what Fuller House is about. And then I was like, what a weird choice.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, I know.
Trisha Paytas
I can't get past. Can Candace.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. She's just knowing.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Knowing that she's all those things. I'm just like, I don't.
Tana Mongeau
Another one that uses the God. Like, God hates gays. I'm like, I'm pretty sure, specifically, Jesus loved everybody. Like, he was just hanging out with the gays, the horse.
Trisha Paytas
Everything in my head, she was just D.J. tanner, like, my whole life.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
And she's. Now that wall has been broken, and she's like. And obviously she's not DJ Tanner. She's Candace Cameron Puree, whatever it is. But, like, yeah, I don't know.
Tana Mongeau
Well, she is still DJ on the show though, right?
Trisha Paytas
Yes, but I can't, like, she's not DJ to me anymore, even on the show.
Tana Mongeau
Being homophobic.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. I'm like, no, D.J. tanner was not homophobic. D.J. tanner was, like, borderline, like, Bye. Let me actually not assume that. I just think her and Kimmy might to, like, what? Play the call.
Tana Mongeau
Hi, Trisha and Tana. Okay, so what do you guys think about the Jake Weber toothbrush thing? Like, would you be grossed out if your boyfriend's toothbrush looked like that? Because I. I have an oral b and it doesn't look like that. Does not look like that. It's easy to clean. Yeah. Just wondering what your thoughts are. Okay, love you. Bye. I did see your tik tok has a tik tok for everything.
Trisha Paytas
I do have a tik tok for everything. It's actually fun. Funny, because Jake Weber and I are neighbors. Like, we live really close to each other.
Tana Mongeau
Oh, really?
Trisha Paytas
And so I texted him yesterday, and I was like, hey, like, what are you doing over the next few days? I think there's something here with the toothbrush. Like, I'm gonna be the person passing the torch to you. I'm gonna give you a toothbrush. Like, do you want to do a TikTok? And he was super down. He's so sweet. I'm always. I'm wondering if I am becoming so meemaw because I'm like, that had to have been appealing stunt.
Tana Mongeau
What did he say? Did you ask him about it?
Trisha Paytas
I haven't. I'm gonna ask him about it when I see him.
Tana Mongeau
Should we text him? I, I. Me and Jake are pretty cool too, I think.
Trisha Paytas
Like, and is that real? But. And then I know him and Tara made some tick tocks about it.
Tana Mongeau
I don't think it was. I think, like, a lot of guys are just like, my dad growing up always had, like, a really gross toothbrush. Like, I think guys don't know to, like, get rid of a toothbrush if
Trisha Paytas
it's so funny, because Makoa, I'm almost the guy. Like, I could see that happening to me before him. Like, he's so. So I'm looking at.
Tana Mongeau
It would be like, the Cleanly one. Like, sometimes I don't know when things need to be changed out. Sheets. I didn't know for the longest time you're supposed to change sheets.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Tana Mongeau
Like, I kept mine on for, like, a year. You know What? It was YouTube in, like, 2000, like, nine. I had these pink polka dot sheets behind me, like, for every video. And someone like, do you ever change your sheets? And I was like, why would I change my sheets? That's so weird.
Trisha Paytas
Like, I love you so much.
Tana Mongeau
I, like, literally had no idea.
Trisha Paytas
I was like, I'm literally the absolute same way. Like, I've learned all of these things later. Oh, my God.
Tana Mongeau
Okay.
Trisha Paytas
I looked up the moment Mold on a toothbrush. Huh?
Tana Mongeau
It's mold, is it? Was it mold? I saw it. It was, like, white. So it's like mold.
Trisha Paytas
What if it's. I thought it was like toothpaste, like, dribbled down.
Tana Mongeau
Yes.
Trisha Paytas
Someone said, y' all aren't understanding. He was definitely joking. It was. He knew it was still there and kept it on the video to be funny, quote unquote.
Tana Mongeau
But, like, how did it get that bad? That was, like, a real toothbrush.
Trisha Paytas
And, like, the bristles just the way the bristle. Does he put it in his mouth?
Tana Mongeau
Yes, yes, he did put it in his mouth.
Trisha Paytas
I'm just now seeing a bunch of people use, like, it has a tick tock shop link for their favorite toothbrush. Okay, I'm getting off Tick tock.
Tana Mongeau
You getting on. You really should. You never did a toothbrush collaboration with, like, Oracle.
Trisha Paytas
I. Oral B.
Tana Mongeau
Right. I think it was at the lecture, like, quippy quippy, too.
Trisha Paytas
I was never quippy. Might be more realistic. I was never an oral B girl. But now. Never say never. Okay. Call me. Beat me if you want to reach me. I'm so brand safe.
Tana Mongeau
You really should.
Trisha Paytas
I. So what? But obviously I also understand, like, oral B not wanting to be associated with he. To me with a toothbrush, which he didn't, by the way. I think if you watch the whole.
Tana Mongeau
Right. I think nowadays they would love to use a little spin on it. Like, they'll bleep it like you. And then, like, what did you say? And they'll be like.
Trisha Paytas
And even at meet and greets, like, people bring me toothbrushes all the time. Like, just like, that's your brand. Like, it. It is one of those, like, I always say, like, bullet points that, like, people will, like, always. You know what I mean? So I want to do something funny with Jake Weber. I definitely want to buy him some
Tana Mongeau
toothbrushes Are you going to do something this weekend?
Trisha Paytas
I hope so. He has to go to Tara's show. But then I was like, let's film a tick tock. We're neighbors. Like, let's just be funny.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
And he was super down, obviously. Like, if that was his toothbrush, that is a problem. I'm sure he has learned that lesson across this.
Tana Mongeau
Right.
Trisha Paytas
And like, that's crazy. It is just so interesting, the Internet, like, seeing people genuinely enraged about it. Right. It's like, it's not your toothbrush scroll.
Tana Mongeau
Right.
Trisha Paytas
Like, it's, it's. You're not brushing your teeth with that. Like, obviously that's nasty. And like, you should get a new toothbrush. But like, I'm sure he's gathered that now.
Tana Mongeau
But I kind of do love a moment where the Internet can collectively, like, come down on someone for something that's like, it is like, gross and disgusting, but also like, in the grand scheme of things, like, no one's getting hurt. And I kind of love that everyone, everyone's like, I have. Really.
Trisha Paytas
That's how I felt about the. Never mind. Never mind. But like, I do love, like a harmless, silly, funny. And I love when people are down. Like the fact that he was like, yes, I'm down. Like, let's make joking tiktoks about it. Like, I, I think that I always get the ick, like when someone's super defensive or like angry at the world about like something like if he was like coming online being like super upset about it.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
So it's cool to see that he's just like, down.
Tana Mongeau
And it's funny when someone like, leans into it. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
And like, it happens. And like half of the girls I know, I demand who had that toothbrush. I, I'm. And I, I'd be blatantly lying if I said, and I don't want to actually say half the girls commenting that a guy with that toothbrush, like, I'm projecting. I know I have, you know, and like, it, it happens. The navy blue fitted sheet, the, the wonky toothbrush, like the beard hairs all over the sink.
Tana Mongeau
Like, yeah.
Trisha Paytas
A lot of men do just have some learning to do, but he does have, have great female influences in his life. Tar Yummy is very hygienic.
Tana Mongeau
Right.
Trisha Paytas
I've always thought that about her. She's like, her smells good. She's a very clean girl, you know? And like, I think that she's a great influence as a friend to maybe just lead him in a crest oral be direction.
Tana Mongeau
Get a new Toothbrush.
Trisha Paytas
And I've never thought, like, his breath smelled bad or anything.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, I guess I never, like, got close, but I. People do. I don't. You just don't know. Sometimes you just don't know what you don't know. You know? And yeah, he. He learned.
Trisha Paytas
And the thing is too, like, no, whatever. He needs a new toothbrush. Whatever. We love you, Jay.
Tana Mongeau
Are you gonna try and clean it or get him a new one?
Trisha Paytas
I'm gonna get him a new one. I'm not trying to love this collab.
Tana Mongeau
You know who's in town, and by the time this comes out, he won't be in town anymore. But I don't have. I don't have time because I don't have, like.
Trisha Paytas
Okay, well, that for knew that I'm obsessed with you. I watch everything that you do. I saw that you commented asking for
Tana Mongeau
hotel and we should always. I know. I don't have. Because he's only here till Monday. I could have done, like, Monday after the podcast, but he's only here to Monday, and I don't have. Have help on the weekends, so.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, I think that at some point, you brand flakes and I will absolutely have some type of, like, fun collab and it'll be really good.
Tana Mongeau
I love him. I love him. It breaks my heart so much.
Trisha Paytas
No, he'll be back. He's like, everywhere all at once. He'll so be back. And he's the best.
Tana Mongeau
I'm that girl who needs, like, a week in advance to, like, plan something because I need to, like, glam kids.
Trisha Paytas
Well, yeah, you're a literal, like, mother. Superstar. Busy.
Tana Mongeau
I know. The FOMO gets real, though. And it's so funny when before having kids, like, I never got invited to anything. It's like, now having kids, like, with three kids, everyone's like, come every night to something. I'm like, yes.
Trisha Paytas
And it's like, I can't. But that's what makes you such a good mom. I also do think that I. We really actually should start trying to have a guest on now and again. Like, he'd be such a fun guest. I was literally. Amari would be such a fun guest.
Tana Mongeau
I gotta figure out we gotta get that couch on here and, like, the microphones of it all and everything like that. But we'll figure it out.
Trisha Paytas
But, you know, he would just give, like, great advice.
Tana Mongeau
We are happy. We do have a bed. It's actually in the garage because our other big bed came so that it's in the.
Trisha Paytas
I'm so ready. I'M Drip down is supposed to come
Tana Mongeau
to finish this back.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Tana Mongeau
Before. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
I love it. No matter what. I think Brand Flakes would give great advice, though. He really would.
Tana Mongeau
Yes.
Trisha Paytas
Like, he'd be so fun. On not Loveline.
Tana Mongeau
So picture Santana. Hey, did you guys see that Lisa Rinna got drugged at the Abbey? And WeHo, how do you guys feel when you get handed random drinks at events? It makes me worried for y' all sometimes. I love y'. All. Let me know.
Trisha Paytas
We love you too. First of all, that was so sweet. It's so sweet when people have genuine, like, just like, that was such genuine care for us and care for people. I hate the Internet sometimes. The amount of victim blaming, victim shaming, disbelief. I've seen in Lisa Rinna saying that she got drugged at the Abbey at the after party for Traders. Like, she came online and she or like, whatever, did an interview, said she got drugged. I just saw this. I don't have all the information. Information and the amount of people being like, I feel like she's lying. Why don't you take a coin out of your bag and flip it? Because that's the same amount of odds that you have of ever knowing what happened. Right. You weren't there. You don't know Lisa Rinna. And like, she's saying it happened. And, like, how is a society. Are we still doing this to women where. Where, like, Lisa Rinna can create enough of a story.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
On her own with all of the things that she has to say. That's the thing, too. I think that whenever women are outraged, outrageous, and which I say as a compliment. I think she's an outrageous woman. As a compliment, people immediately just go to like, well, what she's saying. Don't you think that if Lisa Rena was like, I need attention. Clicks reviews. That she has a million things that she could say about Harry Hamlin or her in Life or Real Housewives or whoever to get that same attention. What? Where. And I'm so sorry. Plants are getting roofied at the Abbey. Everyone I've been reviewed at the Abbey ever and everyone ever has been its own thing.
Tana Mongeau
It's a very known. Not that it, like, makes it okay.
Trisha Paytas
I did a deep on it too. Like, the several bartenders who worked at the Abbey have come out and said allegedly that like, that a lot of the roofing has happened behind the bar because they're wanting people to spend more money and do things. I had a white claw. I got roofied out of a white claw. They cracked the can. I watched them and they handed it to me and I drank it and I was roofied at the Abbey. Like, I don't think someone came and slipped a dropper into this tiny hole in my can. Can. I also don't think that one White claw can do that to you. Like, and I, I know everyone. I know Brooke, like so many everyone ever has been roofied or know someone who's been roofied at the Abbey. Yeah.
Tana Mongeau
And I think back in the day, like when I used to go out, like maybe like 10 years ago, 15 years ago now, like, I, like that's why people went because they like wanted that. Like she was saying in her system, which is so crazy. That's like so insane.
Trisha Paytas
And why would she lie about that?
Tana Mongeau
There's like literally no reason.
Trisha Paytas
No reason. I'm sure there's like a toxicology. I'm sure there's. Yes, yes. Like, like there's also, as a celebrity, there's as like liability, severe liability for saying I was roofied at this place and there's in my system.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
And if she didn't, the liability outweighs the, the desire she could have just
Tana Mongeau
had at a bar, at whatever. And she was so specific and said the fact and she had the test reports, someone asked her, some reporter did a follow up, was like, did you get tested? Yes, yes, I know.
Trisha Paytas
And like just how even if you don't like things that Lisa Rinna has done or said, this makes so many women every, everywhere feel unsafe in the environment to say that they were roofied or drugged. And I just like hate people.
Tana Mongeau
Like, I literally see the, I didn't see the backlash of that. I didn't know.
Trisha Paytas
I just saw so many people not believing her. And I always just get the ick whenever it's like a woman who has done something. Just because a woman has done something that you don't like does not mean that you have every right to believe her. I also just think that contextually, like, there are so many reasons that this is just factually true. You know what I mean?
Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
Like, like, ew. I don't. Yeah.
Tana Mongeau
Because everyone we know that's been in la, I mean, it's just been a thing that's been around LA for so long.
Trisha Paytas
I also like, I don't know her super well, but in all the times that I've met or like spent time with Lisa Rinna, she is like, was super calm and like we, we had normal conversation. She was very sweet and like, just like she's still a human being, you know, and it's just like.
Tana Mongeau
You would love to hate.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, it's just, like, crazy to me. And it's like, the woman said she was roofied. She was probably roofied.
Tana Mongeau
You know what I mean?
Trisha Paytas
Like, well, let's just. I don't know. So, yeah, I hated that. But also, I don't know why we're having anything at The Abbey in 2026, in my opinion. Allegedly.
Tana Mongeau
Agree.
Trisha Paytas
My opinion.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. Be careful over there.
Trisha Paytas
Like, just the amount of roofing stories. Like, even now, if I get invited to something at the Abbey, I'm like, okay, well, I'm gonna drink my water.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
From my house. I wouldn't even get, like, a soda there. I wouldn't even get, like, just because I know so many people who have been roofied there.
Tana Mongeau
It does suck because, like, Abby is like, it is kind of like, such a staple, iconic gay bar.
Trisha Paytas
Weho iconic. But it's like, they're like, maybe we go to Rocco's across the street and we make that the new iconic one.
Tana Mongeau
And so Rocco's.
Trisha Paytas
I love Rocco's.
Tana Mongeau
Lance Bass, I think, owns it.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah.
Tana Mongeau
Jeremy used to bartend there. We. I had my after party there for one of my tours. We love Rocco.
Trisha Paytas
It's just, like, pizza's good. You want to be safe. Like, then it's just, like, so sad.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
I don't know. It is. And, like, the phone stealing at the Abbey, like, the amount of people I know have been roofied and had all of their stuff stolen, that just happened to a friend of mine. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, it's. I don't know.
Tana Mongeau
That's very scary. Stay vigilant. Yeah.
Trisha Paytas
And Lisa Renault, we believe you always.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah. That's actually so awful. All right, you guys.
Trisha Paytas
Not Loveline now. Sold it to Target.
Tana Mongeau
I love that our merch was there. That's so. Cuz you're so cute. Like, that is so right. Are we just, like, Am I just, like, crazy? That is kind of weird.
Trisha Paytas
I think this is.
Tana Mongeau
It's what?
Trisha Paytas
It's probably definitely Valentine's Day related.
Tana Mongeau
Definitely Valentine's Day. But, like, Loveline is so specific, right? Feels really specific because it's such an old show. Like, literally nobody remembers it. It, like, came out in the 90s. Like, that's so weird.
Trisha Paytas
And this is just really cute. Like, we should be selling these. We should have merch because it's also,
Tana Mongeau
like, the telephone of it all. And it's like, that's. I don't know.
Trisha Paytas
I love it. I absolutely love it. I think Moses is really sweet for Getting two and writing not on them.
Tana Mongeau
I didn't know you did that. I was like, where those come from?
Trisha Paytas
Yeah. Like, that's so cute.
Tana Mongeau
Every time I'm like, what was that? Like, I never see anything in this house.
Trisha Paytas
And then I'm always like, okay, I'm the same way. Like, appears in my hoarder house. I'm tlc. I'm still trying. I just went to the Container Store. So expensive, by the way. Don't go there. Go on Amazon.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, we're finally next week. We have organizers coming back because now we have the space in our garage.
Trisha Paytas
We gotta get.
Tana Mongeau
We finally get a storage unit, and I'm like, like, okay, let's. So we moved all this stuff out of the garage, and now we can find.
Trisha Paytas
And you'd think that would help. I have two storage units. I'm just paying. My house is still. I. But I'm done. I really am just getting rid of everything. It's awesome.
Tana Mongeau
I. I am. It's. It's a work in progress, but.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, but we love you guys, and we're all a work in progress, and we love that. And thank you so much for tuning in to another episode.
Tana Mongeau
Call us soon.
Trisha Paytas
Call us. Call us. We love the pop culture, by the way.
Tana Mongeau
Yeah, that was great.
Trisha Paytas
Yeah, that was. Call us about anything. We love you guys. Bye.
Hosts: Tana Mongeau & Trisha Paytas
Date: March 2, 2026
Theme: The complexities of authenticity, venting, and boundaries online and in real life, plus navigating influencer brand deals, personal integrity, mental health, and pop culture chaos.
In this candid and highly relatable episode, Tana and Trisha dive deep into the dilemmas facing influencers in 2026: when to call out people publicly vs. keeping it private, the struggle of turning down lucrative but inauthentic brand deals, evolving as creators, and the never-ending pursuit of mental wellness. The duo discuss their growth from online drama generators to more grounded, self-aware personalities—while still loving pop culture mess. They celebrate vulnerability, integrity, the power of real friendships, and the joy of being “too real” both online and off.
[04:44], [25:44]
"I had to turn down a deal because we just couldn't see eye to eye, and it was for $20,000. And I couldn't sleep. Like, I literally couldn't sleep..."
—Trisha ([00:59])
"A million dollars, say yes to almost any brand deal, right? ... But my audience will be like, she doesn't like sandwiches."
—Tana ([25:28])
[02:49], [03:16], [06:38], [07:35]
"You can vent, you can rant, you can do everything. But it doesn't always need to be online."
—Tana ([03:16])
"Because you're one of the only people where I'm, like, gonna come over and... tell you the real honesty and, like, I don't have to... do it on the forefront anymore."
—Trisha ([03:22])
"That's why I started YouTube, you know what I mean? I just wanted to feel heard... And it, like, is healing. Isn't that interesting?"
—Trisha ([05:07])
[09:48], [10:41], [11:35]
"If my friend is dating someone and they're venting to me, I'm like, yeah, he's a piece. You should break up with him."
—Trisha ([10:03])
[13:02], [14:12], [14:51], [15:21], [16:08]
"It's just so crazy that it's like, yeah, you got to try it for three months and it might not work, and you might be weird as hell..."
([13:27])
"When you are, like, raw-dogging life... you're very much seeing with full, like, clarity or new things develop because of that."
—Trisha ([15:38])
[24:15], [25:44], [28:17], [29:04]
"How special is that level of integrity? And how refreshing is that?"
—Trisha ([25:07])
"I'm picking up the Big Mac, right? I'm not. I'm not sitting here even. I'm not even gonna remotely lie to you."
—Trisha ([25:17])
[29:04], [31:57], [34:20], [35:15], [36:14]
"...that full circle, cozy feeling."
—Tana ([34:53])
"Literally on the call I say, I don't mean to, like, break the wall here... but Trisha Paytas has been telling me for so long..."
([35:16])
[46:53], [49:51]
[43:22], [45:33], [67:35]
[74:39], [75:42]
"I hate the Internet sometimes. The amount of victim blaming, victim shaming, disbelief I’ve seen..."
—Trisha ([75:51])
[80:16]
"That Tana's not dead. She's just dormant." —Trisha ([03:37])
"Just some things don't be online... But I do love when people get messy on TikTok." —Tana ([07:57])
"You're the queen manifester." —Tana to Trisha ([39:08])
"I don't know why we're having anything at The Abbey in 2026, in my opinion. Allegedly." —Trisha ([78:47])
"I've had to turn down a deal because we just couldn't see eye to eye, and it was for $20,000. And I couldn't sleep." —Trisha ([00:59])
This episode is a whirlwind of real talk, messy internet moments, and meaningful reflection. Tana and Trisha model a new era of influencer authenticity—balancing viral chaos with honesty, kindness, and growing up. Whether it’s turning down money, navigating mental health, or figuring out who to trust with your mess, there’s wisdom, humor, and a lot of heart throughout.
Memorable, quotable, and a must for anyone interested in creator culture, self-improvement, or just two friends keeping it unfiltered.