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Not Real Art
Hosted by Crewest Studio · EN
The NOT REAL ART podcast celebrates creative culture and the artists who make it. NOT REAL ART is fresh, fun and inspiring. It contains material not suitable for pretentious art snobs. Guests include the world-class artists, designers and creatives who drive the $2T creative economy.
NOT REAL ART is hosted by L.A. based art world insiders Man One and Sourdough who bring their devil-may-care attitude to discussing their mutual love — and hate — for the contemporary art world, creative culture, and everything in between.
If you're an an arts professional or creative culture enthusiast, NOT REAL ART is for you!
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Art World Horror Stories: From Natural Disasters to Mangled Masterpieces and Social Media Meltdowns
Oct 2100:16:21Tap to summarizeDim the lights, grab a cozy blanket and a mug of cider (or a pumpkin spice latte, if you prefer), and settle in for three tales of terror from our Art World Horror Stories series.First on the chopping block is Mellyssa Diggs, a brand identity designer whose passion for social justice quickly spiraled into a nightmare of cyberbullying and social media censorship. Next, we turn to Asheville-based artist Wendy Newman. Last fall, her life was upended by Hurricane Helene, which not only obliterated her gallery but also displaced countless artists in her community. Finally, we meet painter Jacobina Oele, another Asheville artist, whose masterpiece was mangled beyond recognition at the hands of an unscrupulous gallery owner. Presented by NOT REAL ART’s parent company, Crewest Studio, Art World Horror Stories is a podcast about bad things that happen to good artists. In today’s crossover episode, we delve into the spine-chilling stories usually reserved for the spookiest podcast in Crewest’s network.How You Can Get InvolvedListen: 5 Practical Tips From 30 Years of Art World HorrorListen: Muralist Amandalynn Took a Great FallVisit the Art World Horror Stories website.Visit Mellyssa Diggs on Instagram, LinkedIn, or YouTube.Visit Wendy Newman on Instagram, Facebook, or Pinterest.Visit Jacobina Oele on Instagram, Facebook, or YouTube.Learn more about Crewest Studio and our host, Scott “Sourdough” Power.Submit a horror story for 2026.About Art World Horror Stories and Crewest Studio Art World Horror Stories is a podcast about bad things that happen to good artists. The series is produced by Crewest Studio, an independent company specializing in entertainment media, publishing, and experiential content, serving a diverse network of professional creatives and enthusiasts. With a mission to entertain, inform, and inspire, the studio recognizes the significance of the $2 trillion creative economy and the 30 million professionals within it. At the helm are co-founders Scott "Sourdough" Power, a seasoned leader with decades of experience, and Man One, a passionate artist dedicated to the transformative power of art in society. Follow NOT REAL ARTWebsiteInstagramFacebookYouTubeThanks for listening! Subscribe, share, and support creative culture!Episode artwork: David Schwartz.
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Art21 Premieres Season 12 of ‘Art in the Twenty-First Century’ Amid Funding Cuts
Oct 1401:03:53Tap to summarizeOn May 3, hundreds of arts organizations across the US opened their inboxes to an abrupt notice: their NEA grant applications had either been denied or rescinded. Among them, Art21, the New York nonprofit that produces the beloved public television series Art in the Twenty-First Century, lost an $85,000 grant to support the production of seasons 12 and 13.In today’s episode, host Scott "Sourdough" Power sits down with Lolita Fierro, Director of Development at Art21, to discuss the triumphant premiere of Season 12 (Oct.17), despite executive orders defunding the NEA and the Corporation for Public Broadcasting earlier this year. Together, they unpack the season’s first episode, “Between Worlds,” which features artists whose practices explore the space between the self and the other, reflect on histories of migration, borders, and displacement, incorporate knowledge across disciplines, and create human connections across difference.Together, Scott and Lolita Unpack…The upcoming premiere of Art in the Twenty-First Century, Season 12, on Oct. 17, 2025Art21’s new social-first series, IRL, focusing on artists working in both online and offline spacesThe second biannual film festival in New York, which included premieres, panel discussions, and behind-the-scenes insightsWhy Art21 is an essential educational resource that supports teachers and lifelong learnersThe challenges and rewards of securing support for nonprofit art organizationsThe concept of art as “soul food”—exploring its spiritual and philosophical significance beyond market value and investment How You Can Get Involved With Art21Watch the trailer for Season 12 of Art in the Twenty-First Century.Explore over 600 films with no paywall and global accessibility.Register to host an Art21 Screening Society screening event.Discover tools for educators.Watch Art21.live, an always-on broadcast channel featuring high-quality, hand-selected video programming on contemporary art and artists.Support Art21; donations of any size are meaningful.About Art21 and Lolita FierroArt21 is a leading nonprofit organization dedicated to expanding access to contemporary art through documentary films, educational resources, and public programs. With a mission to inspire a more creative and inclusive world, Art21 produces award-winning films that highlight groundbreaking contemporary artists. Its flagship PBS series, Art in the Twenty-First Century, along with digital shorts like "Extended Play" and "New York Close Up," engages millions of viewers worldwide. Art21 also offers free materials and professional development programs for educators and hosts community film screenings globally, making contemporary art accessible to all.Lolita Fierro, the Director of Development at Art21, plays a vital role in overseeing the organization’s annual operating budget and donor engagement strategies. Under her leadership, Art21 has launched its first gala, revitalized events programming, and strengthened its patron programs to connect supporters with artists and cultural communities. Fierro also spearheads "Art21 for Everyone," the organization’s inaugural capacity-building campaign to enhance operations and expand reach. With a background in graphic design, marketing, and art history from the University of Texas at El Paso, she previously held key roles at ArtTable and the Chinati Foundation, further enriching her expertise in fundraising and arts advocacy.WebsiteInstagramFacebookYouTubeTikTokX (Twitter)Follow NOT REAL ARTWebsiteInstagramFacebookYouTubeThanks for listening! Subscribe, share, and support creative culture!
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The Art of Polymath Hans Fjellestad: Chaos and Creativity
Oct 701:04:54Tap to summarizeThroughout history, figures like Jane Goodall, Benjamin Franklin, and Leonardo da Vinci have stood out as polymaths—individuals driven by an insatiable thirst for knowledge and expertise across a multitude of fields. This week, we welcome Hans Fjellestad, a member of their esteemed ranks. A true Renaissance man, Hans's talents span music, film, and education.In our conversation, Hans walks us through his artistic evolution, starting with his classical piano background and progressing into the realm of experimental electronic compositions. Along the way, he shares stories from his experiences in documentary filmmaking, including insights from acclaimed projects such as Moog and a recent work centered on the sculptor Luis Bermudez.As Hans and Scott delve deeper into the conversation, they explore the roots of creativity, the fascinating interplay between music and language, and the chaotic beauty of performing live in front of an audience.For more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/hans-fjellestad
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Filming the ‘Arthouse’ Pilot
Sep 3000:12:22Tap to summarizeIn this week’s episode, we take you behind the scenes of our recent adventure filming the pilot for Arthouse in Scott’s hometown of Chicago. From navigating the bustling urban landscape to dealing with unexpected equipment malfunctions, our journey was anything but straightforward. We even faced a COVID scare that threatened to disrupt our plans, but through teamwork and determination, we emerged victorious. The footage captured is truly stellar and a testament to our passion for this project.For more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/filming-arthouse-pilot
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Curator Rebekah Tolley on the Rise of the Digitalism Movement
Sep 2301:19:43Tap to summarizeWhat is Digitalism—and why is it making waves in the art world? As award-winning filmmaker and curator Rebekah Tolley writes in her recent essay “The Rise of Digitalism: A New Movement in Art,” Digitalism explores the intersection of art, culture, and technology in the digital era. Today, Rebekah joins us to unpack the emergence of Digitalism as both a cultural movement and a groundbreaking exhibition that she curated for the British Art Fair in 2024. Throughout our discussion, Rebekah emphasizes the challenges digital artists face in gaining acceptance within the traditional art world, a struggle reminiscent of photography's early days. She advocates for accessibility and community, aiming to dispel myths and foster an inclusive environment for practitioners of Digitalism. As we look forward to the 2025 Digitalism showcase (Sept. 25 - 28, Saatchi Gallery), it’s clear this movement is more than a trend; it has the potential to redefine expression within the digital realm as we enter a new digital age. For more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/rebekah-tolley-digitalism
Transcribe →From Creation to Preservation: The Artist's Guide to Archiving
Mar 25, 202500:20:28Summary readyEvery brushstroke, every note, every pixel—what if your artwork could live forever? In this episode, you’ll discover why archiving your work isn’t just about saving files—it’s about preserving your legacy. Join host Scott "Sourdough" Power as he highlights the critical role of preserving artistic legacies for future generations, especially as creators navigate life's complexities and the reality of mortality.Scott shares a straightforward, step-by-step guide to help artists inventory their creations and choose the best storage methods. Listeners will explore various strategies for effective archiving, including how to compile a comprehensive inventory, organize physical storage, and develop a system that emphasizes the significance of each piece. Scott also underscores the necessity of estate planning and the value of designating a legacy keeper to honor an artist's wishes after they're gone.This episode serves as a rallying cry for artists to take proactive steps in documenting their work, alleviating pressure on their loved ones while safeguarding the integrity of their creative contributions. Tune in and discover how to ensure your artistic legacy lives on. Links mentioned in this episode:ArterialArtsvilleUSAArtwork ArchiveNOT REAL ARTFor more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/archiving-artwork
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Casey Fletcher: Our 2024 NOT REAL ART Grant Recipient
Mar 4, 202501:04:33Tap to summarizeThis week, the NOT REAL ART podcast features Casey Fletcher, a grant recipient whose exploration of identity, faith, and artistic expression is both personal and provocative. As a biracial artist raised in a family committed to the Salvation Army, Fletcher's work reflects his own experiences while challenging societal norms and sparking meaningful conversations about culture, spirituality, and belonging. In this episode, he shares details about his recent project involving the Chamberlain Rock—a boulder removed from the University of Wisconsin campus because of its association with racist terminology. This initiative showcases Casey's dedication to confronting historical injustices and initiating dialogue about race and identity. For him, art transcends mere self-expression; it is a powerful means of cultivating community discourse that fosters understanding and healing. Throughout the episode, Casey articulates a vision of art that is deeply connected to his faith and personal convictions. He views his artistic practice as a journey toward truth, encouraging others to embark on their own paths of discovery. Ultimately, this episode highlights the transformative nature of art, demonstrating how creativity can serve as a catalyst for change and a bridge for empathy in an increasingly divided society.Casey FletcherNOT REAL ARTNOT REAL ART Artist GrantNOT REAL ART 2024 Grant Winners ExhibitionScott “Sourdough” PowerFor more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/casey-fletcher
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Art in Peril: Consequences of Climate Change on the Creative Sector
Feb 25, 202500:27:07Tap to summarizeIn this episode, you’ll learn about an incredibly relevant topic: the connection between art, creativity, and climate change.Today, host Scott “Sourdough” Power highlights the staggering impact of recent climate disasters on creative communities in Los Angeles and Asheville, North Carolina. When Hurricane Helene swept through Western North Carolina last September, it displaced hundreds of artists and flattened key creative spaces across 25 counties. As Scott explores the history of climate disaster, he also tackles the common but false belief that some places, like the Appalachian Mountains, are safe from its impacts. It’s a stark reminder that climate change doesn’t play favorites—it affects everyone, regardless of background.Our conversation also touches on the Palisades and Eaton fires, two of the deadliest and most destructive wildfires in California history. An Angeleno himself, Scott witnessed firsthand how a trifecta of fire-friendly climate conditions turned entire neighborhoods into heaps of ash and soot this past January. While he stresses the importance of moving from passive observation to active engagement, Scott also celebrates the resilience of these communities in overcoming challenges through creativity. Ultimately, this episode emphasizes that creativity isn’t just about reflecting what’s happening around us; it’s also a powerful way to imagine and work towards a more sustainable future.ArtsvilleUSAFirst Friday ExhibitionsNOT REAL ARTNOT REAL ART SchoolRemote: A Video Series Exploring Public ArtScott “Sourdough” PowerFor more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/creativity-and-climate-change
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Unveiling First Fridays: A Deep Dive Into NOT REAL ART’s 2025 Exhibition Calendar
Feb 18, 202500:30:35Tap to summarizeThis episode is your guidebook to our 2025 First Friday Exhibition series. Today, NOT REAL ART Editor-in-Chief Morgan Laurens joins the podcast to share the first half of this year’s exhibition schedule, beginning with January's exploration of figurative art, Out of Body: New Narratives in Figurative Art.In February, Pantone 2025: Mocha Mousse showcased pieces that embody comfort and warmth. March celebrates craft artists from Western North Carolina, created in partnership with ArtsvilleUSA, to support those affected by Hurricane Helene. April highlights under-recognized emerging artists, while May features exhibitions on creatures, both real and imagined. Finally, the June exhibition focuses on Midwestern iconography, spotlighting artists from between New York and Chicago.Curated by Morgan Laurens and former New York gallerist Kirsten Bengtson-Lydoukis, the First Friday Exhibition series supports an array of talented artists who submitted work to our biennial grant.ArtsvilleUSAFirst Friday ExhibitionsFull 2025 Exhibition ScheduleMorgan LaurensNOT REAL ARTNOT REAL ART Artist GrantFor more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/first-friday-exhibitions-2025
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Spreading Eco-Awareness: Danielle O'Malley Explores the Intersection of Art, Environment, and Community
Feb 4, 202501:38:32Tap to summarizeCreativity can be a powerful tool for spreading eco-awareness. As the climate crisis worsens, today’s guest, sustainable sculptor and NOT REAL ART grant winner Danielle O’Malley, joins us to discuss the intersection of art and environmental awareness and how communities can work together to stem the rising tide.Growing up in rural Montana, Danielle learned to garden, preserve food, and care for livestock, which heightened her sensitivity to local environments and the increasingly hazardous climate. Still based in Montana, she now creates large-scale, site-specific sculptural installations that explore the ecological impact of industrialization with a combination of upcycled materials and industrial surplus. Throughout the episode, Danielle shares insights into her creative process, which ebbs and flows with the season. Our conversation also explores the complexities of being an artist in a conservative state like Montana, where the creative community is supportive but underfunded. Danielle reflects on the challenges and opportunities that arise from living and working in a rural setting, emphasizing how mentorship and community support can empower emerging artists to embrace their creativity without the constraints of societal expectations. Danielle’s philosophy on resource sharing and grassroots networking manifests in projects like Montana Clay, a gathering designed to foster connections between ceramic artists who live and work in “Big Sky Country.”Danielle’s story invites listeners to reconsider the role of artists in society and the vital importance of nurturing creative voices that resonate with the existential dilemma of our time. For more information on this episode, please visit http://notrealart.com/danielle-omalley
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