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- [00:00]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay, guys, it's been such a long day for me that it's time for my skinny margarita. Do you guys remember my skinny margarita? Oh, geez. Will know my Skinny Marg days. These were the days that I used to drink before I went out, which is like, oh, my God. But you know what? Maybe I should go back to that. Like, it's time to go back to that life. Back in the day, I used to make a Skinny Marg because I was always, you know, trying to drink. Like, if I was drinking, I really wanted to make sure I'm drinking the best drink that I can to feel good the next day. So the number one choice you should be making if you want to drink reasonably and smartly, if that's a word, is tequila. Tequila is the way to go. Because good tequila, like Estrella Tequila, it is the best. It is made from 100 agave. I got a man to open it. So annoying. I know. What I love about Austral Tequila, aside from it being made with 100% agave, is that by drinking this tequila, you are also helping people get their homes built, which I love. So after they make the tequila, the leftover agave is upcycled into adobe bricks, which are made to build homes in Jalisco, Mexico. So by drinking a straw tequila, you're also giving back, which I love. So let's make my skinny mark. Let's see if I remember how to make my skinny mark. Like a baby shot. Because, okay, this is the big one, the small one, right? Kind of put that in there. And I know this is weird. I use, like, a soda. Soda, and I would use some ice. I would use, like, even more healthy now if I had. I don't. I add some maple syrup to make it a little sweet and lemon.
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Ariana Maddox
It's so good. Shaking.
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Amanda Hirsch
Okay, let's see what I'm doing wrong. I literally just went like this. Wow, that is smooth. Whoa, cheeky.
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Ariana Maddox
Whoa. Whoa. Whoa.
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Amanda Hirsch
Cheeky. Whoa, Cheeky. Whoa, cheeky. Whoa. No, no. Like, am I a bartender that looked like I didn't know what I was doing? But it tastes. I'm just amazed. I'm amazed with myself. Make my Skinny Marg. Make it with Estrella Tequila. The summer of house Margs is here. I can't wait to be sipping this on my fire escape. Wink, wink. To get your Astral Tequila and to find a store near you that carries it, go to www.astral tequila.com. that's a S T R A L T E Q U I L A. Please drink responsibly.
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Ariana Maddox
The following podcast is.
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Unknown
A Dear Media production.
- [03:23]
Amanda Hirsch
Welcome back to the Not Skinny but Not Fact podcast. I'm your host, Amanda Hirsch, and I still can't believe that I get to chat with some of my favorite stars on my very own podcast, where you'll feel like you're just talking with your best friends in your living room. I searched you, but when you look so much better now, Windsor.
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Unknown
No, like, look at those lips. Seriously, like, when I was able to.
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Amanda Hirsch
Fill my lips, you tell me. When you harassed and stalked me on the street.
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Unknown
I harassed and stalked you on the street for a year. So, actually, no.
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Amanda Hirsch
When was the first harassment? September 2020.
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Unknown
No, 2022.
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Amanda Hirsch
No, 2020. What? 2022.
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Unknown
Yeah, because I went to Bravo Con.
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Amanda Hirsch
Did we ever tell this story?
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Unknown
No. And the people. Because everyone's waiting for my solo episode. Yeah. Booth girls back, clock in.
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Amanda Hirsch
You're going to have haters if you continue this.
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Unknown
And I'm, like, dying for them. Like, this is what you don't get.
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Amanda Hirsch
Like, okay, move on, because this is what makes you annoying. Yeah. Okay, let's tell the people how. Because we've talked about this. You've said before, people are coming for your job. Resumes are piling up. Yeah. And every time I fuck up, favoriting, clocking, organizing. No, I'm just kidding. So annoying. But. But I think it is interesting for people to know, like, how you even started working with me. So rewind to September 2022, which your.
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Unknown
Hair is literally, like, dark brown. Excuse me?
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Amanda Hirsch
Yeah, my hair goes through some changes. It was cute, though.
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Unknown
We need to talk about the eyebrows before you were pregnant with that.
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Amanda Hirsch
It's a hard point. Yeah, I know. Thank you for noticing the things that are important because I've posted about this before and I don't feel like enough people cared, but I have a weird pregnancy side effect. And it's that my eyebrows get lighter.
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Unknown
But not like one shade.
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Amanda Hirsch
Like, seriously, seven shades.
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Unknown
Seven shades. It's the craziest thing ever.
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Amanda Hirsch
My eyebrows before were literally, like, your color eyebrows. And then now they're literally like blonde eyebrows, which is so crazy. So crazy. But anyway, September 2022.
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Unknown
So I had just moved to the city. I was here for maybe five days. And I had just moved into my crazy. Yeah, I had just moved into my apartment, which was like, hell, six floor.
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Amanda Hirsch
Walk up, 17 roommates.
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Unknown
No, I was living in a studio, fifth floor walk up with, like, no view. Like, seriously depressing.
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Amanda Hirsch
And my one roommate.
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Unknown
No after. And my friend had just come to visit me because we were going to Bravo Con because I was a crazy Bravo fan. Still am.
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Amanda Hirsch
And she just keeps it under control.
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Unknown
Yeah. Like, seriously, you do? And she was like, oh. Like, do you have a coffee? Like, I'm dying. And I was like, no. I literally just moved in. Like, let's go to the coffee next door. I was like, I think there's a coffee, like, right next to here. Like, let's go. So I go, and we're ordering coffee, and I see this teeny, tiny blonde woman with her adorable little kid. And I was like, why do I know this girl? Like, she looks so familiar. And at this point, I think I seen your face because of the whole, like, Kardashian thing. Like, I think that's why I recognized you.
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Amanda Hirsch
You weren't. She was one of those people you hate, like, don't do it yet. What. What rapper, like, stops people from if they want an autograph?
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Unknown
He goes, it's a Travis Scott. He was like, name three songs.
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Amanda Hirsch
Right? So I should have done that to you.
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Unknown
You. Okay, you're gonna bring it up. I'm not gonna. I'm gonna say the story.
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Amanda Hirsch
She wasn't killing me at the time is. Comes up to me at the coffee place and is like, oh, my God. Not skin, but not fat. You. You said it. So.
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Unknown
But, like. Like, think about it. I literally was waiting for the coffee, and I told my friend. I was like, who is that? And she's like, oh, my God, it's the girl. And I was like, yeah, but what's her name? I don't know. Imagine how hard it was for me to, like, just, like, it pop in my head. Be, like, not skinny, but not fat.
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Amanda Hirsch
Like, I mean, if you were an avid follower.
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Unknown
No, but, like, that's crazy.
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Amanda Hirsch
Okay, so you weren't at the time, but let's just. And it's.
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Unknown
So I look her up. I look her up, and I was like, it's her. And I'm like, oh, my God. Hi. Big fat, huge.
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Amanda Hirsch
And asks for pick.
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Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
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Amanda Hirsch
The huge fan who didn't know who I was. Who? Fake it till you make it, you guys. Yeah, this is right here happening. So. Didn't know, like, kind of knew who I was. Had to ask. Still ask for a picnic. She, like, loved me.
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Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
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Unknown
And then I posted it, and she reposted. And in my head of being so smart, I was like, well, she reposted. Obviously, I'm at the very top of her messages. So, like, if I send a message now, like, the probability of her seeing it is way Higher. And keep in mind, I didn't know that actually Amanda, guys, like, seriously, like, looks at all your messages because she's, like, always, like, chit chatting with you. If I would have known that, I would have been so crazy. So I, like, didn't even tell my friend. I was like, you know, I'm just going to message her, like, hi, if you're ever interested, like, in a babysitter or a personal assistant, like, I've experienced both, would love to, like, like, meet with you or whatever. Blah, blah. Guys, like, keep in mind I've been in New York for, like, maybe a week at this point, and this was, like, my dream, right? She answers. And I was seriously, like, I'm on my way to BravoCon. I'm, like, freaking out. I'm like, I called my mom. I was like, mom, I made it.
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Amanda Hirsch
You can make it anywhere.
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Unknown
No, seriously, I was like, this is it. Like, I'm like, I'm done. Like, I'm gonna quit my job that I came here for. And, like, this is it. And I meet with Amanda, like, the next Tuesday. We go to the same coffee shop and we, like, chit chat, blah, blah, blah. And I go home. She's like, okay, I'll have an answer to you by like, like, in a couple days. Like, let me think about it. And I was like, okay, perfect. Obviously, I'm following up through dm. She's like, not answering. I'm like, no. What do you mean, no? And then she ghosts me. She ghosts me after, like, a month. She's like, hi. Like, sorry, I'm just, like, really not interested. Like, I just don't think. Because, guys, it literally takes Amanda a year to think about anything. Like, anything you want her to do. Give her a year.
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Amanda Hirsch
That's the minimum.
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Unknown
That's her, like, thinking, and that's the.
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Amanda Hirsch
Minimum amount of time.
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Unknown
Yeah, but usually like a year. Sweet spot. So I, like, keep following up with her, like, every couple of months.
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Amanda Hirsch
Wait, after I said no, you keep following up? See if something changes.
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Unknown
Yeah, so don't go that far up in our messages. It's embarrassing. Like, one night I was, like, drunk, and I was, like, so sad. And, like, I hated New York because I was like, my dreams aren't coming true. And I was like, you know what? Like, let me just DM her one more time. Like, blah, blah, blah. And then I was in Vegas having the worst day of my life because, like, I lost my wallet and stuff. And I, like, go into my Instagram and I see this message from Amanda and She was like, hi. Are you still interested in working for me literally a year later? And I was like, oh, my God, yes. And she's like, okay, can you start tomorrow? And I was like, oh, my God, yes. Like, I literally, like.
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Amanda Hirsch
But you were in Vegas.
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Unknown
You said, yeah, I flew home. Like, I was gonna fly home that day, but I was having this whole thing with my wallet. And then I started, and we did Nikki and Bri, and it was crazy. But, like, the craziest part of all of this is that we were actually neighbors, and I would run into her all the time, and it was so awkward because, like, it'd be like, oh, hi. Remember when you ghosted me? But, like, we would never, like, talk. But I remember I saw you on the street, like, three or four times.
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Amanda Hirsch
Really?
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Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
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Unknown
And you were, like, in the. You lived in the building in front of me. So, like, I would.
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Amanda Hirsch
Right. It was across the street at the time.
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Unknown
So I would always be like, oh, my God. She probably thinks I'm actually stalking her, which I was.
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Amanda Hirsch
So then a year. I mean, the moral of the story is. Not a true fan, yet still wanted a pick. No, I'm just kidding. The moral of the story is, a year later. She's not exaggerating because we exaggerate a lot here. It was September 2023. Like, the pick. September 2022. The text. September 2023. And that's, like, how, like, my brain works. Just actually, at the time, I didn't need anybody or whatever. Like, my situation was, like, I just had just Noah, you know, Like, I was just managing. I was managing well at the time, but because.
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Unknown
And you told me this one time, like you said, and I totally understand your brain way more after you told me. You were like, I've always just done it by myself.
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Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
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Unknown
So I think it's also hard for people that are, like, they made everything by themselves to, like, delegate tasks and give things to people.
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Amanda Hirsch
Well, I'm still, like, fucking anal.
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Unknown
Yeah, but. Yeah, you're like, no, but she's way better now. But, like, it makes sense that you're. Because it's your baby. Like, obviously, you're gonna be crazy about it.
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Amanda Hirsch
Yeah. You think, like, that nobody else could, which I still think.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Amanda Hirsch
Imo, that people that are on top of their shit and don't delegate to a thousand and one teams and just, like, kind of put their hands up. I feel like that can't work. You know, I think I was talking to my agent, Bradley, and we were talking, like, there was, like, a team Meeting or something. And then people were like, okay, I meant it. Like, so when are you available? Like, should we ask Regina? Or, like, Sherby? And I was like, no, I can tell you.
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Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
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Amanda Hirsch
And then he was. And you know what he said that moment? He's like, that's how the best ones do it.
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Unknown
Yeah. Cause you're like.
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Amanda Hirsch
Because it's like, I can fucking tell. Like, I. You know those people that are like, I don't know. My assistant has my schedule. I don't even know it. Like, great. Good for you. If, like, that stresses you out. But I can open up my phone, schedule my own stuff. Like, sometimes you do, but sometimes I do. Like, I can do it. But the point of. The fact of the matter is the day that I. When I said no to her at the time, I felt like I just don't really need it right now. So, like, that was my truth. Felt bad, which is why the ghosting. Because sometimes people ghost you because they feel bad, not because they're being dicks. But I think when I asked you if you could, which was so fucking random, I can't believe I remembered your name to find you in the DMs.
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Unknown
Thank the fucking Lord that I.
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Amanda Hirsch
That you love that name.
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Unknown
Yeah, but tell them, like, literally the reason why you wanted to hire me. Like, what popped in your head? This is my favorite thing ever.
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Amanda Hirsch
What popped in my head that I wanted.
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Unknown
Because you were like, I have a couple of things. Like, how am I gonna get lunch?
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Amanda Hirsch
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's what I was gonna say.
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Ariana Maddox
So.
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Amanda Hirsch
So I had. I usually, like, in terms of podcasts, like, my goal would be, like, one podcast a day. Because I feel like I get so into it. I'm so into the guests. I love, like, thinking about them all night, preparing for them, like, you know, all day. And then I could do other stuff. And in terms of podcasts, I like to focus on one person. Anyway, that day, I think I had, like, two podcasts, which.
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Unknown
We did it. Oh, yeah, we did.
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Amanda Hirsch
And I was, like, thinking about. And I was like, but I'm going to be hungry in the middle. And then in my mind, I was just like, Amanda. Like, this is why people have help. So, like, somebody can go get you a coffee, help you with lunch. Like, you don't have to, like, think, like, oh. Like, that's why people have help. And I remember, like, yes, the catalyst is always food. Like, always food. The catalyst was lunch. I was like, I'm going to need somebody. And then I have to say, and hopefully our time runs out when I'm done saying this. No. So I don't have to, like, keep saying nice things about you.
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Unknown
Stop. It's literally my fake birthday.
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Amanda Hirsch
We'll get to that and then we'll go. But. Hi. Yeah, but so my catalyst is always food. And I have to say, like, that day, I don't know if you, like, pep talk to yourself before came in with a plan, like, whatever you, like, made me see how valuable you would be.
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Unknown
You know me. I'm literally gonna cry.
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Amanda Hirsch
I know she cries, but in that one day, I even remember, didn't we eat at Mamoon that day? No, Maman. We ate at Maman.
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Unknown
We had lunch that day. I swear we didn't have lunch. Because we didn't.
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Amanda Hirsch
No, we went to get, like, an iced tea.
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Unknown
No, remember, like, it was the craziest day. Also, like, she was like, okay, we're getting in the car with my husband and Noah, and Noah's literally looking at me like, who is this psycho freak in the car with us, Mom? And I was like, okay, perfect. And then we did Nikki and Bri. And then you were going on a podcast, but I swear it was literally 30 minutes after. No, we went to Maman to get those gross salads. Like, probably like three months into me working with you.
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Amanda Hirsch
That's not true. I literally remember because I remember there were the small things that you did that were like, okay, first of all, you know, I don't know where I'm walking, so it's, like, helpful if somebody guides me. Then it's like, there was like. I remember. I remember standing in my man in that corner, like, down next to in Soho. And you, like, we're like, should I get an extra dressing to go? Like, should I. Do you need a bag for this? Like, here's a straw. There's like, oh, you want to sweeten your ic. Just like all these, like, forward thinking thoughts that I was like, she came to get the job. Get the. Like, she came and she. She thought steps ahead. Like, you weren't today. You kind of wait for me to tell you.
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Unknown
No, I need to start thinking steps ahead again.
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Amanda Hirsch
Yes. I'm saying. So that day you came. Like, I'm gonna show her that I can, like, bring shit to the table. Even if it's like. That's what I'm saying at that point. I'm talking about small things, right? Where you're like, you could do it yourself. But so many things. I'm like, oh, God, she's just like, doing these Things I wouldn't have thought of doing. Like, just. I remember these small things that I remember telling my husband. And he had already been in the car with you, and he was into you. Too slow. And he was like, love her. We need her. Anyway, that's that. But let's talk about your birthday for a second.
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Unknown
Yeah, my birthday.
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Amanda Hirsch
So I put your wrong birthday in the calendar this year, and I put it for May 6 with the confidence that I was like, repeat yes annually.
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Unknown
And, like, coming after that podcast where you're like, yeah, like, I'm not really good with birthdays. Like, I kind of just do, like, whatever. Like, blah, blah, blah. And it's so funny because she's like, I'm a Taurus and her husband's a Taurus. And we're so, like, about our birthdays, but we're, like, shy about it.
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Amanda Hirsch
You know what's so funny? Jaron literally said that to me yesterday. Cause I told him it was your birthday on May 6 that I made up. And he was just like, oh, my God. Like, we're both Tauruses. And he was like. I was like, yeah. He was like, isn't that crazy? Which, like, he usually doesn't care about this stuff. I'm like, is it that crazy? No.
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Unknown
Me and husband, seriously the same.
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Amanda Hirsch
You're in supporting roles in my life. Seriously the same.
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Unknown
Seriously.
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Amanda Hirsch
So I put May 6, but it's May 4, so I put May 6. So confident, by the way. Like, talked about it. I told you. I told Arielle, like, about your birthday. Then you walk in today and I tell my nanny graze. I'm like. I'm like, it's her compliance. And then you were like, yeah, two days ago. And I'm like, what? And I literally freak out because I was thinking about your birthday. I brought you a gift. I know.
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Unknown
You're so sweet.
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Amanda Hirsch
I was like, wait, you didn't think it's weird I didn't fucking call you and, like, FaceTime you on your birthday? Like, I just can't stop thinking about it. Like, how wrong. But I showed you that I put in my calendar today.
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Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
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Amanda Hirsch
How to repeat annually. And I had two days off. I don't know why. And then what did I write on your little card?
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Unknown
May sex is better. Like, you're so crazy.
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Amanda Hirsch
What sounds better? May 6th. No. Or May 4th.
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Unknown
May 5th. Like, Cinco de Mayo. Like, seriously, I would have been, oh, because you're.
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Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
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Unknown
Like, come on. That would have been. I can't hear it.
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Amanda Hirsch
You're Mexican, right?
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Unknown
I'm Mexican.
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Amanda Hirsch
Yeah. Forget. I know you're Mexico every day. I shouldn't forget.
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Unknown
Like, where do you think I'm from?
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Amanda Hirsch
But May 4, May 4, May 6. Sexy.
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Unknown
So you want me to change it?
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Amanda Hirsch
May 6, 26, everybody.
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Unknown
Guys, I'm 26.
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Amanda Hirsch
Young. 26 years young. So happy birthday.
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Unknown
Thanks. Love you.
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Amanda Hirsch
Happy birthday.
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Unknown
My gift, huh? Thanks for my gift.
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Amanda Hirsch
It was actually funny. I'm like your funny ones. Here's this card game you'll never play.
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Unknown
Wait. It's so cute. Okay, guys, like, let me tell you one thing. Amanda seriously has one of everything, if not two. Like, she has everything known to man because these fucking brands send her 70,000 things. So when you have. When you work for an influencer and stuff, you have to be very creative about what you get them. So I get her useful things or like cute things.
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Amanda Hirsch
Did we use the pants stapler?
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Unknown
Yes, we could have.
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Amanda Hirsch
But you're, like, scared of it. No, you can use it.
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Unknown
She always gets her stuff. And like, she never tailors anything because she's like, it's fine. Like, it works. And I'm like, no, it doesn't. So I got her a stitchy. If you've been on TikTok, it like stitches your clothes or it works. It literally works, works. And then all for. I don't know what. I think I got it for Mother's Day, like the card game. Because we haven't been together for two birthdays. I don't know what I got it for, but I got her this, like, card game.
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Amanda Hirsch
But where do I put it with.
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Unknown
Lenny's going to. Lenny's going to use it, you know, and he's going to love it with pictures of her, like, being so cute with the kids.
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Amanda Hirsch
Like, it was very thoughtful. Where is it? See, Great question. Anyway, guys, very cool guest today. Very cool. I'm so excited because she's just everywhere, everything. The glow up the thriving hood. She just looks better than she's ever looked. She's doing better than she's ever done. And I don't think there's a person in the world that doesn't. Stan. Yeah, that doesn't stand. Arianimatics. You guys, Ariana Maddox is here. The new season of Love Island USA is coming out soon. She's hosting it again, duh. Because she did just such a phenomenal job last time and got so many people to watch. Like, yeah, I need to know numbers about this anyway, so, yeah. Welcome. Ariana Maddox. Ariana Maddox is here.
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Ariana Maddox
Hi.
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Amanda Hirsch
We've never done this in person.
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Ariana Maddox
No, we're always on, like a zoom or that weird.
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Amanda Hirsch
Don't say always. It was so many years ago.
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Ariana Maddox
It was.
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Amanda Hirsch
It was a gazillion trillion. Yeah, it was like Covid.
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Ariana Maddox
It was definitely Covid times. For sure.
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Amanda Hirsch
Covid. You know, because I still reference this episode we did back in the day. Do you know what I'm talking about? No, you probably don't.
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Ariana Maddox
Well, which. What?
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Amanda Hirsch
Well, you taught me about toxic fandoms. You were really into that.
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Ariana Maddox
I was like, but I really want one.
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Amanda Hirsch
You manifesting. But you. I remember. And I've referenced that since because we've. We talked about it a lot in the episode. We just kind of went on tangents and you were like, I. Like, I want. I want one. We were talking about Taylor Swift or something.
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Ariana Maddox
Yeah. I was like, I hate it, but I also want it.
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Amanda Hirsch
Yes. I love you. I'm so happy you're here.
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Ariana Maddox
Oh, my God, me too. I'm glad we're getting to do this, like, literally irl.
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Amanda Hirsch
Irl.
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Ariana Maddox
Yeah. You know what's funny, though, is I feel like when I am really busy, though, I'm. I've learned that I'm less tired when I'm busy, even though while I'm busy, all I'm saying is, like, I want a nap. I'm so tired. And then I'll have a stretch where maybe there's less going on.
- [21:09]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
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Ariana Maddox
And then I.
- [21:10]
Amanda Hirsch
It's, like, not good for me to be too busy.
- [21:14]
Ariana Maddox
To be less busy.
- [21:15]
Amanda Hirsch
To be less busy. You need to be go, go, go.
- [21:18]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah, apparently.
- [21:19]
Amanda Hirsch
Really? Yeah. Because you said you have, like, three full days right now of.
- [21:23]
Ariana Maddox
Of Love island stuff.
- [21:24]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah. Of Love island press.
- [21:26]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
- [21:26]
Amanda Hirsch
Not that I need to cancel the party, guys, because the Love island does not need press. It was so fucking good.
- [21:32]
Ariana Maddox
Oh, my God. I was obsessed with it. I mean, I always am, but. But last season, obviously, was just so incredible.
- [21:39]
Amanda Hirsch
Do you have. You have your phone during that time?
- [21:42]
Ariana Maddox
I don't. Well, because there's nowhere to put it.
- [21:44]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah, but like, during the filming.
- [21:46]
Ariana Maddox
Yes.
- [21:46]
Amanda Hirsch
Like, you're NDA'd up. Like, you're not gonna tell your friends, even if they're dying to know.
- [21:51]
Ariana Maddox
No.
- [21:51]
Amanda Hirsch
It's funny, though, because your friends don't want to know.
- [21:54]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah, they love watching the show, but also everything the show is very good about. I mean, they. They really have to move so quickly to get this show out. I mean, you're getting episodes almost in real time.
- [22:06]
Amanda Hirsch
69 million.
- [22:08]
Ariana Maddox
So quick.
- [22:09]
Amanda Hirsch
Crazy.
- [22:10]
Ariana Maddox
And because of the time difference, we're getting, like, whatever episode is Going to air that night on Peacock. 9pm on Peacock. Eastern Time, 6pm Pacific. Whatever episode is gonna air that night.
- [22:24]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
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Ariana Maddox
I'll have the cut sent to me on my phone at, say, maybe sometimes it's like 1pm or it's earlier so that if I'm filming either after sun that day or if I'm going into the villa or just, you know, it's part. It's not just part of the job, but I also really love watching it.
- [22:42]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
- [22:42]
Ariana Maddox
But I get that earlier in the day. But even by the. When you think of the time difference, there's really nothing I could spoil for anyone because it's coming so quickly.
- [22:51]
Amanda Hirsch
But you're watching it without the narration, right?
- [22:53]
Ariana Maddox
I do some of the narration. It depends, actually.
- [22:56]
Amanda Hirsch
Sometimes Ian's narration, like, you don't have.
- [22:59]
Ariana Maddox
She does that so quick. I don't know how they do that with the. He's in Scotland.
- [23:03]
Amanda Hirsch
Because I would need that. You know, Like, I need it. I need the narration.
- [23:06]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah. Sometimes. Maybe the music's not quite in there.
- [23:09]
Amanda Hirsch
Yet, but I love your hair right now.
- [23:11]
Ariana Maddox
Thank you. A lot of it's not mine, but the color. Yes.
- [23:15]
Amanda Hirsch
Like, I like this color on you more than the, like, blonde. Blonde, right.
- [23:19]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
- [23:20]
Amanda Hirsch
Like, you also had darker recently. Like, you've been playing now.
- [23:23]
Ariana Maddox
I've had darker for a while, but I've. I usually. When I get it, I have to get them to go. My girl Alyssa, she's, like, the absolute best, but I always have to ask her, like, can you go dark, darker? Like, because it always kind of washes out a little bit lighter. So. But it's been a long time, so this is, I think, just growing out. I love it at this point.
- [23:43]
Amanda Hirsch
I love it. I love your whole style. Thank you. I told you.
- [23:48]
Ariana Maddox
We have some deliberation on the outfit today, so. Thank you.
- [23:50]
Amanda Hirsch
No, it looks your butt, first of all. Like, it needs to be. Like, there needs to be a butt shot, because that's where it's happening.
- [23:56]
Ariana Maddox
Well, the outfit has, like, swirls on the butt cheeks, too.
- [23:59]
Amanda Hirsch
Oh, yeah.
- [24:00]
Ariana Maddox
Swirl. Rolls of the boobs.
- [24:02]
Amanda Hirsch
It looks. I read your. You did an article with people, like, the style thing, the style caster, and you were first of all. The looks there were great, too. But you were talking about how you're, like, taking more risks and, like.
- [24:11]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
- [24:12]
Amanda Hirsch
Kind of leaning in more.
- [24:13]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah. And it's funny, too, because one of the outfits in that shoe, in that art, in that interview, I talk about how, like, I'm, like, flattering. Like, flattering is such a Stupid thing that we care about.
- [24:25]
Amanda Hirsch
I know I'm still there.
- [24:25]
Ariana Maddox
Sometimes I like it. I love to be like, oh, this accentuates this. Sometimes I'm like, why don't you just wear this thing that I think is cool. But then someone commented on like one of the outfits. They're like, this is the most unflattered. We're like, did you not read the article? Yeah.
- [24:40]
Amanda Hirsch
Wait, which one? They like the Billie Eilish.
- [24:42]
Ariana Maddox
Like, yeah, they. They thought that was like very.
- [24:45]
Amanda Hirsch
The Billie Eilish.
- [24:46]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah. Like the baggy shorts and the. I'm like. But that's kind of the point.
- [24:51]
Amanda Hirsch
You're right. It's such a thing because, like, there is the cool versus flattering.
- [24:58]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
- [24:58]
Amanda Hirsch
Sometimes flattering things are we wouldn't wear today anymore.
- [25:02]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
- [25:03]
Amanda Hirsch
Slash. Like, I just discovered you guys and this is important for girls. You're like medium height, right? Or are you.
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Ariana Maddox
I'm on the shorter side, but I'm like five, four, five, five.
- [25:12]
Amanda Hirsch
Oh, yeah. So you're like me. So I just learned because I ordered these mid rise jeans and I always was like, mid rise. Oh my God, that's so scary. It's like low. It's like low rise. And I was like, damn. Like, I should be wearing mid rise and a high rise. Like, I just realized high rise is so dumb on me. And then I posted it and all the like medium high girlies, like, I'm five four, two, were like, yeah, we can't wear high waisted because it's like here.
- [25:37]
Ariana Maddox
It can really be like an under boob thing.
- [25:39]
Amanda Hirsch
Right?
- [25:40]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
- [25:40]
Amanda Hirsch
So now I'm like, I'll literally look at jeans and be like, mid rise.
- [25:43]
Ariana Maddox
Mm.
- [25:44]
Amanda Hirsch
Or this doesn't go with what you're saying because for the, for the flattering effect.
- [25:49]
Ariana Maddox
But then I feel like you can.
- [25:50]
Amanda Hirsch
Change it up, but you can change it up. But like, like these huge. Like my husband would be like, they look huge. Like he would think like something that looks bigger. Like that isn't accentuating your body doesn't look as good.
- [26:00]
Ariana Maddox
No. But then I think that actually looks really cool.
- [26:02]
Amanda Hirsch
They don't get it.
- [26:03]
Ariana Maddox
They don't get it.
- [26:04]
Amanda Hirsch
They don't. Does Dan get it?
- [26:05]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah. You get it.
- [26:06]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah. Style. Like, did you ask him for opinions on outfits and stuff?
- [26:10]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah. But he also asks me, which is nice.
- [26:13]
Amanda Hirsch
That is nice.
- [26:13]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
- [26:14]
Amanda Hirsch
I mean, I would assume you like.
- [26:15]
Ariana Maddox
Know what you're doing sometimes, but guy stuff is different.
- [26:19]
Amanda Hirsch
But also like the teeth. What's going on?
- [26:20]
Ariana Maddox
Oh, I got gems. I got a butterfly and then some Another one over here. But here's the thing. I did it for the holidays because I wanted to be sparkly over the holidays. And I thought, like, this is fun. I'm not working. And now I'm like, it's May, and I thought they would fall off.
- [26:34]
Amanda Hirsch
Oh, they. What's the process?
- [26:36]
Ariana Maddox
I thought they just fall off.
- [26:37]
Amanda Hirsch
And they. They're not.
- [26:38]
Ariana Maddox
No. So I'm gonna have to get them take it off. I'm like, now I gotta find time to go to the dentist.
- [26:43]
Amanda Hirsch
You did it at the dentist?
- [26:45]
Ariana Maddox
No, I did it. I went to, like, a girl.
- [26:46]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay. Girl can't take it off.
- [26:48]
Ariana Maddox
And she does. I mean, she probably could, but she typically, like. She does where people get, like, a full gem of multicolored and just, like, really cool. And I was like, I just, like, really want the butterfly.
- [27:01]
Amanda Hirsch
It looks really good. But I'm just thinking how it's another thing to deal with. You know what I mean? Like, getting your nails done is already a thing.
- [27:08]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
- [27:09]
Amanda Hirsch
Eyebrows. Fucking this. Now you have to deal with, like, I have to take my gemstone off and.
- [27:12]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah. Which I thought it was gonna fall off, like, four months ago.
- [27:16]
Amanda Hirsch
So you were saying before you're good at being busy. Yes, but it's really been like, clack, clack, clack, clack, clack. Like, it's been finished. Vanderpump straight into Dancing with the Stars.
- [27:27]
Ariana Maddox
Dancing with the Stars, then straight to Broadway.
- [27:30]
Amanda Hirsch
Straight to Broadway, Straight.
- [27:31]
Ariana Maddox
Straight to Love island, straight back to Broadway.
- [27:34]
Amanda Hirsch
Right, because they asked you back.
- [27:36]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
- [27:36]
Amanda Hirsch
Because it was such a good fucking run.
- [27:38]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah. It was great to be back. Yeah.
- [27:40]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
- [27:40]
Ariana Maddox
I love it.
- [27:41]
Amanda Hirsch
You were so good.
- [27:42]
Ariana Maddox
So I came to theater right here, and I was like, I have a.
- [27:46]
Amanda Hirsch
Story, actually, because I came to see you with Lala, and I was sitting next to your friend from college.
- [27:52]
Ariana Maddox
Oh, my gosh. Meredith.
- [27:53]
Amanda Hirsch
Meredith. Yeah. And this was kind of before because you had just Dance with Stars and then this, and then I feel like then people were like, wow, she was so good. Like, how is she so good? That's crazy. And then people kind of found out, like, yeah. No, she studied musical theater and she wanted to do this and blah, blah, blah. So I got the privilege of, like, Meredith sitting next to me, and, like, she was telling me all that before.
- [28:17]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah. You got the tldr of, like, the whole thing.
- [28:19]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah. Like, she was just, like. She was crying the whole time.
- [28:24]
Ariana Maddox
She's the best.
- [28:24]
Amanda Hirsch
And she was like, this is what she always wanted.
- [28:29]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
- [28:29]
Amanda Hirsch
Like, this is. She was like. She. You guys were, like, in the same yeah.
- [28:34]
Ariana Maddox
We were in the same theater program, right? Yeah.
- [28:36]
Amanda Hirsch
So she was telling me about that, and I didn't know. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like on one hand, I. I know I hate when people are like. And boom. Like, then it happened overnight.
- [28:46]
Ariana Maddox
Right.
- [28:46]
Amanda Hirsch
Of course, because it's not. But we didn't, like, on the show, they didn't show us. You know, obviously they choose, like, the storylines for the show.
- [28:55]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
- [28:55]
Amanda Hirsch
But tell me what was happening in the background of, like, how were you working towards this dream that you've always had?
- [29:02]
Ariana Maddox
I mean. Well, I've always. I've taken acting classes and things like that. Always, like, throughout the years. It was actually my acting teacher who told me that I should do Vanderbump, because she was like, you never know what happens. And I remember she had said that. And another one of her alumna from her acting classes was Nicole Scherzinger. And this is Nicole Scherzinger, Pre Sunset Boulevard.
- [29:23]
Amanda Hirsch
Obviously this is like, she's nominated for.
- [29:27]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah. And so I was like, wait, she's like, classically trained, but she had said yes to things that were in front of her, and now she's able to kind of. Even though this is so far, long ago and now I just think, like, it's so true. Like, you just. You say yes, opportunities, and you make it what you want of it.
- [29:45]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
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Ariana Maddox
But, like, it does take time. And so, yeah, whether it's vocal lessons or just keeping up with, like, dance and things like that and acting classes, like, over the years. But there definitely was, like, a stretch where I just thought, like, you know, it's probably not. I'll focus on cocktail books and I'll focus on other things that feel like maybe that's. Maybe more, you know, I. That was what was in front of me, so I would, like, follow that more.
- [30:12]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
- [30:12]
Ariana Maddox
But I've had the same manager since before Vanderpump, and he would always ask me, like, you know, do what do you want to do? Or, like, what do you still want to do? Or what are you thinking that you don't want to do anymore? And I was like, no, but I still always want to do that. Yeah, like, that was always still what I want. So, like, whatever. If that's always going to be there.
- [30:30]
Amanda Hirsch
Always going to be there. Were you auditioning? Were you trying to, like, send in.
- [30:33]
Ariana Maddox
Tape and stuff like that while I did audition. But, God, tapes so much.
- [30:39]
Amanda Hirsch
You rather go in person?
- [30:41]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah, I miss. I miss in person auditions.
- [30:44]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
- [30:44]
Ariana Maddox
Really? But, yeah, I would audition for stuff and I think the thing that I heard the most was great. We loved it. We loved the audition. It was so good. We need more of a name, really.
- [30:57]
Amanda Hirsch
Always I thought we were gonna say the opposite, like the. Because you.
- [30:59]
Ariana Maddox
On reality tv, they always wanted more of a name. So then I would be like, okay. And you know, it'd be like, okay, I got callbacks and I got stuff like that. Then, you know, it would come on television or the commercial for it would come on. I'd be like. The part I auditioned for would be like, ashley Tisdale is doing it. Or which one? It's either Allie or aj. Like the one with the curlier hair. It's like always someone that was like, more recognizable of a name. And so it was always like, okay, I have to make more of a name for myself.
- [31:28]
Amanda Hirsch
Oh, my God, that's such a. It's such a catch 22 in this industry. Because, you know, we were like, you want to get an agent? And then you see, you hear stories about back in the day, like Johnny Depp and fucking all these people. The agent found out, the mall, whatever.
- [31:43]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
- [31:43]
Amanda Hirsch
Like nowadays, like, no, you need to like, be someone. Then you get the agent.
- [31:48]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
- [31:49]
Amanda Hirsch
Then you can try to do other. Like, you're not getting any.
- [31:51]
Ariana Maddox
Gonna get stuff without an agent.
- [31:53]
Amanda Hirsch
Right.
- [31:53]
Ariana Maddox
Unless it's, you know, something off Craigslist or. Well, I mean, now, I guess people make like videos and stuff on Tick Tock. It's easier to self make things than it was back then, but. And like, get people to see it. But even still, it's just like, there's always that. That paradox of like, exactly what you're saying.
- [32:12]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah, but it's such a good example of like, keeping at something, having it in the back. Because I, I say about manifesting, like. And I give the example of like, I don't think, like, everybody needs to sleep in their car. And you know, like, sometimes you could just be like, keep. Keep the wheel kind of turning. Even if it's over here and it's not right here, even if you're doing something else. And then you never know. Like, look at Walton Goggins, who, by the way, was here in the studio a couple weeks ago. No way. Having the year of his life.
- [32:42]
Ariana Maddox
Oh, my God.
- [32:42]
Amanda Hirsch
Invited to the Met Gala. Like, he was doing MAD before and he has his, like, fans from before, but his moment is now.
- [32:49]
Ariana Maddox
Yes.
- [32:50]
Amanda Hirsch
You know, and everywhere. I mean, SNL Met Gala.
- [32:54]
Ariana Maddox
He's literally everywhere right now.
- [32:55]
Amanda Hirsch
It's living. And like, it's just. I love seeing people have you know, moments where they worked really hard. Because we do see the overnight thing before today.
- [33:05]
Ariana Maddox
It does happen.
- [33:05]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
- [33:06]
Ariana Maddox
And there's people who, you know, maybe had, you know, a little bit of help, whether it was, you know, they grew up with money so they don't have to worry about working, or they have family in the industry or family friends and. And it's like, that's nice. But some people have to bartend for a long time, which.
- [33:26]
Amanda Hirsch
You were so good and you did write a book. It was, It. It was like, did really well.
- [33:30]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah. It was New York Times bestseller for the cocktail book. Yeah.
- [33:32]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah. It wasn't like a little ebook, you know, huge bug. But I also read in one of the interviews you did that you think you were a bad reality star.
- [33:41]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
- [33:41]
Amanda Hirsch
You. You think that, but I.
- [33:43]
Ariana Maddox
But I think sometimes what made me a bad reality star is also what makes me a good reality star.
- [33:48]
Amanda Hirsch
Explain.
- [33:49]
Ariana Maddox
So, like, when people think reality star, like, they, they have, you know, if you kind of put it into a box.
- [33:54]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
- [33:55]
Ariana Maddox
You might think, you know, someone who instigates.
- [33:59]
Amanda Hirsch
Right. Is more villainy. Who's.
- [34:01]
Ariana Maddox
Who's able to live comfortably in that space of. Yeah. Come at me. You know, like, has fun doing that.
- [34:08]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
- [34:09]
Ariana Maddox
And I feel like a lot of parts of me, too, like, I have a hard time being very vulnerable unless I feel really safe. I'm a cancer. So there's that. And so it's hard to kind of be able to have all of that and also be able to be great at doing what you're doing as a reality star, which is, of course, people want to watch for the drama and, you know, so I would. I would do my best and, like, put myself out there, but I feel like I would sometimes, like, old clips of Vanderpump will come on my TikTok.
- [34:41]
Amanda Hirsch
I've been fucking cool. Is that it?
- [34:43]
Ariana Maddox
That was a good one.
- [34:44]
Amanda Hirsch
That was a good one.
- [34:45]
Ariana Maddox
I would have to. I would have to drink to. To kind of like, get more comfortable.
- [34:50]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
- [34:50]
Ariana Maddox
And I don't feel like that's a very, like, good space to be in long term.
- [34:54]
Amanda Hirsch
Where do you think? Do you remember thinking about it consciously? Like, oh, if I have, like, a couple glasses of wine.
- [34:58]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah. I'd be like, thank God it's a night out. Not like, you know, just like going. Having tea.
- [35:04]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
- [35:04]
Ariana Maddox
You know, like, the nights out, the big nights out were way more fun.
- [35:07]
Amanda Hirsch
Way easier to film too.
- [35:09]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah. And I think. But at the same time, being something, doing something a little bit different or being like maybe not Fitting that mold is maybe what made me resonate with people.
- [35:20]
Amanda Hirsch
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- [39:56]
Ariana Maddox
I don't know if normal. I mean, because I do think I'm pretty annoying a lot of the time. Like, I've had like, some pretty annoying moments for sure. I guess I think maybe I would be better at it now. But I. I think I have too much anxiety for reality TV because, yeah, it was really bad. Talk to us about it. Yeah.
- [40:18]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
- [40:18]
Ariana Maddox
And sometimes it would be, like, to the point where it was, like, debilitating. And what I was thinking of is sometimes old clips will come on my for you page on Tick Tock and there's scenes that I never really noticed it because I wasn't really. I wasn't like, watching and re. Watching. It's like, maybe I would watch the episode where they sent it to us, you know, forever and ever ago. But then seeing the old things, and in hindsight, I can see myself in scene being, like, completely disassociated and terrified, really. And, like, not knowing what to say or how to say it or who. Like, I can watch myself going through, like, this whole thing and what it comes out as is just going like. Like, there was one particular that came up. It was like me and my ex were behind the bar, and it was like Jax was on the other side and he said something that I didn't like. But I was sitting there and I didn't say anything about it because I was just like, oh, well, I'm like, well, he'll say something because I don't really know, like, how to say.
- [41:19]
Amanda Hirsch
You were overthinking constantly. Really?
- [41:21]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah. Or I would think about, like. Like, right now, there's. There's three cameras in this room, and one of them is right there. So I might need to be, like, mewing. You're thinking about it constantly. What? Yeah. Yeah.
- [41:36]
Amanda Hirsch
Well, that's good for, like, an actor because they know they're fucking, like, where to stand. But even.
- [41:41]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah, where to stand. Like, some of it's great for, like, understanding that, but then some of it's a little bit like, you know, go take a nap. Like, this is not. This is not positive.
- [41:51]
Amanda Hirsch
Did you mind seasons where you were more, like, took a. Not a backseat, but because you weren't involved in drama?
- [42:02]
Ariana Maddox
Well, it's annoying a little bit because I would always be what I thought was, like, really, you know, talking about stuff or giving of myself. And then it would air. They just, like, didn't want to follow it. And so it's a little bit like, because people might say, like, well, that means that I didn't give it. It's like there are so many times where I'm like, oh, this is going to be for great example. Kristen and I's friendship, like, developed, and it was something that I thought and I think she as well thought was something that they would have. And then it never aired. And you just think, like, wow, we really kind of gave our hearts to this. And it just wasn't, I guess, what was. You know, whoever's making those decisions just thought like, oh, it's okay. We don't.
- [42:46]
Amanda Hirsch
But now, in hindsight is now you're. Do you think of yourself? Like, was I naive to think, like, they'll want to follow this, like, beautiful friendship yes. Yeah.
- [42:54]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
- [42:54]
Amanda Hirsch
Even though it is special. Are you still friends?
- [42:56]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah, I was just at her baby shower.
- [42:58]
Amanda Hirsch
Oh, her baby shower was so classy and beautiful.
- [43:01]
Ariana Maddox
Brittany, like, really knows how to throw a party.
- [43:03]
Amanda Hirsch
Did it for her.
- [43:04]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
- [43:04]
Amanda Hirsch
That's sweet.
- [43:05]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah, it was really cute.
- [43:07]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah. Kristen is pregnant, you guys. It's.
- [43:09]
Ariana Maddox
It's all happening up quick.
- [43:10]
Amanda Hirsch
In 2023, you had an interview with Us Weekly, and you said you want to own a home, you want to be on Broadway, and you want to be a host of a dating show. Did you know of any of these opportunities when you said that?
- [43:23]
Ariana Maddox
I knew. Like, let's.
- [43:26]
Amanda Hirsch
Like, you manifested all of them or like, two out of three?
- [43:28]
Ariana Maddox
I manifested. I definitely manifested the house.
- [43:32]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay.
- [43:33]
Ariana Maddox
Because I definitely did not have that at that time. The Broadway thing. I hadn't, like, locked that in yet.
- [43:39]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay. Oh, but you put it out there in this. Like.
- [43:41]
Ariana Maddox
Like, interest had been shown at a. You know what I mean? And I had. Was having to work sessions. You're basically like sort of like an audition, but it's not. But basically. So that was like a little bit kind of like on the cusp, I think. And then the host of a dating show. I mean, I really wanted to. I don't think I had Love island at that point, but I was like, very, very much.
- [44:04]
Amanda Hirsch
Did you try to throw your hat in that ring? Did you tell your manager, or did it just come to you?
- [44:08]
Ariana Maddox
Like, it happened, but I think because Sarah Hyland had left, she was going to do. She went and did the Off Broadway, a little shop. So it was like, it all just the puzzle.
- [44:23]
Amanda Hirsch
Oh, you knew she was leaving to do, and you were like, oh, maybe they're looking for a new host.
- [44:26]
Ariana Maddox
No, no, no. Yeah. I had no idea.
- [44:29]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay.
- [44:30]
Ariana Maddox
It really worked out.
- [44:31]
Amanda Hirsch
Wow. Was that with, like, auditions and stuff?
- [44:34]
Ariana Maddox
No, but I had done the two guest spots previously, so.
- [44:39]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah, that was kind of your. Right. Your hat in the ring for that.
- [44:42]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah, it's a little bit of, like, I guess, like a mini audition for that.
- [44:45]
Amanda Hirsch
I loved how transparent you were. I mean, on Vanderpump Rules with anxiety and depression and stuff. But also after everything happened and you were doing these major brand deals, you were pretty much like, I remember your Glamour article, one of them. You were like, yeah, I'm taking the money. Like, oh, my God.
- [45:03]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah. Why would I work.
- [45:05]
Amanda Hirsch
The way you said. I don't know why you were asked about it. Yeah.
- [45:08]
Ariana Maddox
People were very weird about me working. They're like, you should stop. I'm like, would retire. I should Retire? Is that what you're telling me? Like, it was very weird how people were, like, assuming that I would not work.
- [45:23]
Amanda Hirsch
Like, that you wouldn't take it like a. A financial.
- [45:26]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah. Like, a brand deal is a. It's a job. It's work. It's memorizing a script. It's acting. It's like, this is literally what I've. Like, this is what I do.
- [45:35]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
- [45:35]
Ariana Maddox
And I've. I'd always done things like that, you know, with other things. I had done things with, like, Alka Seltzer. I did things with, you know, different cosmetic brands and things like that. Doing that.
- [45:48]
Amanda Hirsch
Did it feel like people wanted you to, like, just go be sad or people didn't want you to make money off this? Like, what did it feel like?
- [45:55]
Ariana Maddox
I don't know what they thought. I don't know. Like. Like it's something in US Astrology. Wherever your Jupiter is, is apparently. I don't know. The Ali Luber can talk about that more.
- [46:09]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah. Yeah.
- [46:09]
Ariana Maddox
But my Jupiter is in. I think it's my first house, which means that I am the business.
- [46:17]
Amanda Hirsch
Huh.
- [46:17]
Ariana Maddox
And that's very true. Like, I'm a real. Like, I. I do own. You know, I have other businesses where it's not just me, but, like, I am the business. So, like, the. Whether it's, like, acting or maybe it's like a brand deal or it's like, it has to do with social media, stuff like that tv. Like. Right. So when these offers come in, it's like, I have a whole team that negotiates and, like. But we've been doing this for 10 years, so we just got busier. That's it. And then people thought I should. I don't know, Like, I don't know what they thought I was going to do. Like, move to Utah and.
- [46:57]
Amanda Hirsch
No. I love how you put that when you're asked about it, because it's like, it goes back to what we talked about, like, the overnight versus the, like. No.
- [47:04]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
- [47:04]
Amanda Hirsch
You know, because we have so much of that that people are like. And then. And it's like, no, that's not what's been happening. But Dancing with the Stars, let's talk about for a minute. Because I thought you were gonna win.
- [47:15]
Ariana Maddox
Well, I wanted to get to the finals because I was. I wanted to make sure I was able to do every single dance that I didn't miss anything.
- [47:23]
Amanda Hirsch
Like, any of the styles.
- [47:24]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah. I just was like, I would have too much fomo. Like, I. I would kill me if I didn't get brutal Brutally hard. But, like, I would do it again. It's like. I feel like it's what people say about childbirth where, like, it was so hard, but then you, like, forgot.
- [47:39]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
- [47:40]
Ariana Maddox
Somehow your brain, like, forgets how hard it was.
- [47:42]
Amanda Hirsch
Right.
- [47:43]
Ariana Maddox
Like, I would totally do it again.
- [47:44]
Amanda Hirsch
You would do it again, but how hard? Like, physically, like.
- [47:47]
Ariana Maddox
Yes.
- [47:48]
Amanda Hirsch
Emotionally? Yeah.
- [47:49]
Ariana Maddox
All of the.
- [47:49]
Amanda Hirsch
You got ripped from it.
- [47:51]
Ariana Maddox
Oh, yeah.
- [47:52]
Amanda Hirsch
You feel like your body, like, worked, like, harder than it.
- [47:54]
Ariana Maddox
Well, there was at one point where I gained weight doing it, and I don't know what that was about, like, my soul. No, I just was like, what's. How do I look?
- [48:04]
Amanda Hirsch
Really?
- [48:04]
Ariana Maddox
I think I was inflamed, swollen.
- [48:07]
Amanda Hirsch
Really? Yeah. I remember thinking you looked amazing. Maybe it was you thinking it.
- [48:12]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah. Also probably. But that show, I mean, it changed my entire life. Like, I. Dancing with the Stars is everything, and I feel like I. Like, if there's a cult, I'm in the cult. Fully in the cult.
- [48:25]
Amanda Hirsch
Like, wait, did you do a tour?
- [48:27]
Ariana Maddox
No, I didn't, because I left to do Broadway, so I wanted to do the tour, and I was like, you guys, Like, I really want to do the tour.
- [48:34]
Amanda Hirsch
Wait for me.
- [48:35]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah. My man. I was like. I was telling my, like, agent. I was like, I really want to do the tour, though. And she was like, babe. I was like, I can't do both.
- [48:44]
Amanda Hirsch
You thought you could do both?
- [48:45]
Ariana Maddox
I was like, can I do both? They're like, no.
- [48:47]
Amanda Hirsch
When. How rigorous was playing Roxie Hart? Like, you did the show every night for.
- [48:52]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah, eight shows a week for four months.
- [48:55]
Amanda Hirsch
Eight shows a week is every night, plus two matinees every.
- [48:59]
Ariana Maddox
Every night and then matinees. Chicago schedule is matinee. Two shows on Saturdays and Sundays. Everyone says it's the worst schedule on Broadway.
- [49:09]
Amanda Hirsch
That or Dancing with the Stars. What's harder?
- [49:11]
Ariana Maddox
I think it's different because Roxy, you know, you learn the show, and then you do the show over and over.
- [49:18]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
- [49:18]
Ariana Maddox
Dancing with the Stars is a new dance every, like, five days because. Or, you know, it's every seven days, but technically, you have five days to learn and hopefully try to perfect this thing you've never done before in your life. So it's hard in different ways, for sure. The thing about Roxy is that, you know, you. You're singing, you're dancing, you're acting. But she, as a character, has every emotion under the sun in the one show, and it's all at a level 100. She's not subtle about anything. So it's just very. It could be, like, emotionally Exhausting.
- [49:55]
Amanda Hirsch
I'm such a fan of the movie.
- [49:57]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
- [49:57]
Amanda Hirsch
Like, I know by heart. Like, yeah, she had to come. You had it coming. Like, I know that. Like, love it. Like, watch it a million times. I feel like a lot of people go to see it. I'm. I'm sure a lot of your fans also came to see you. And maybe, like, we're in a. You know what I mean? Like, not everyone was obsessed with Chicago.
- [50:13]
Ariana Maddox
Right.
- [50:13]
Amanda Hirsch
You know what I mean? So many people are. But for me, I was like, all the songs, like, I fucking love it so much. And you did. Not that I was surprised, but there was a little. Because I was like, oh, my God, she can sing amazingly. I didn't know. You know what I mean? She. You're singing, you're dancing, you're acting. How scary was the singing part? Was it the.
- [50:36]
Ariana Maddox
I feel like by the time I was up there is a little bit better. That first week of shows was like a rock concert, which was amazing. But then I couldn't hear.
- [50:48]
Amanda Hirsch
Oh, it was very loud.
- [50:49]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah. So there are times where I was like, I can't hear.
- [50:53]
Amanda Hirsch
You have that little thing in, like, a. Like. Like Madonna does, right? Like, in your ear. Do you hear yourself?
- [50:58]
Ariana Maddox
No.
- [50:58]
Amanda Hirsch
Oh, you don't have that.
- [50:59]
Ariana Maddox
No.
- [50:59]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay. So you literally don't know what you sound like.
- [51:02]
Ariana Maddox
It depends on who's running the monitors. Sometimes whoever's running the sound, like, the monitors, they're really great. And then other times, people will be commiserating about it backstage. Like, I can't hear shit.
- [51:14]
Amanda Hirsch
So. Meaning you could be, like, not hitting a note and you wouldn't know because you don't hear it.
- [51:17]
Ariana Maddox
Or you're like, that felt weird. You're like, but. Or. But usually then people are like, I didn't notice anything because there's monitors, speakers, backstage.
- [51:27]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
- [51:27]
Ariana Maddox
I'll be like, wait, when I did the. You know, mine. Yeah, mine felt really weird. And, you know, my friend Red would be backstage. He was Amos during my run, and he'd be like, sounded perfect. I'm like, okay.
- [51:40]
Amanda Hirsch
But singing in general. Like, how scary is that?
- [51:44]
Ariana Maddox
Like, it can be scary. I think the scariest thing is that you're. The first singing moment for her is up on that ladder.
- [51:53]
Amanda Hirsch
Right.
- [51:54]
Ariana Maddox
And not only that, but it's a song that's not. It can be a little bit of a. It's not the.
- [52:00]
Amanda Hirsch
It's slow. It's a slower one.
- [52:02]
Ariana Maddox
Slower. Yeah. Funny, honey. And so it's a little bit like, you know, as long as. If you feel good about that one.
- [52:08]
Amanda Hirsch
It's all, it's all uphill from there.
- [52:11]
Ariana Maddox
Exactly.
- [52:12]
Amanda Hirsch
And how was living in New York during that time?
- [52:14]
Ariana Maddox
I loved it.
- [52:15]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
- [52:15]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah. I lived here a long time ago, so it was nice.
- [52:19]
Amanda Hirsch
Like before Vanderpump.
- [52:21]
Ariana Maddox
Oh, yeah, I moved here. I moved to LA from New York. So I was here for like five years. Like a little bit in college and then like straight out of college and then moved to LA and then. Yeah, it was nice to be back for an extended time.
- [52:37]
Amanda Hirsch
And Dan, your boyfriend lives here.
- [52:39]
Ariana Maddox
Yes. Yeah.
- [52:40]
Amanda Hirsch
So you got to be like the bi coastal vibes.
- [52:42]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah, it felt very much like, oh, we're just bi coastal. And it was nice, like, because we got to do normal things.
- [52:48]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah. Because usually, I mean, how normal? You were crazy busy though.
- [52:51]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah. But it was like come over and cook dinner in the apartment. Like stuff that you do.
- [52:55]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
- [52:56]
Ariana Maddox
When you like live in the same city all the time.
- [52:58]
Amanda Hirsch
But you bought a home in la, so you kind of made a declaration, like a decision.
- [53:03]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah, I bought that house without stepping foot into it. So that was. Yeah.
- [53:08]
Amanda Hirsch
Did somebody else go for you?
- [53:09]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah, my, my, my friends went and, and looked at it for me and I had to kind of just say, yeah, well, I'm running out of time because I was about to come back.
- [53:19]
Amanda Hirsch
From here, so why not rent? Like, why would. Why did you have the pressure?
- [53:22]
Ariana Maddox
Because it just feels like the money is going to some landlord and I would ra. If I have it. I'd rather like put in a house, put it right into.
- [53:30]
Amanda Hirsch
But then you step foot since.
- [53:32]
Ariana Maddox
Plus I didn't want to move twice. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
- [53:34]
Amanda Hirsch
And it's good.
- [53:35]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
- [53:35]
Amanda Hirsch
You love it.
- [53:36]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
- [53:37]
Amanda Hirsch
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Ariana Maddox
She's the best.
- [58:40]
Amanda Hirsch
Dana is such a good friend also like Brad X Brad.
- [58:45]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
- [58:45]
Amanda Hirsch
Is always around you. Katie, such a good friend from the outside. Like it feels like so much like so many of your friends are so supportive. Was there anything people always say like you learn who your friends are kind of in hard times?
- [58:59]
Ariana Maddox
Sure. Yeah.
- [59:01]
Amanda Hirsch
Did you have any disappointment around you of friends that turned out to not be or were they all as great as these people?
- [59:07]
Ariana Maddox
I feel like you, I feel like you saw a lot of that sort of struggle on season 11. Yeah. And. And Lala as well.
- [59:20]
Amanda Hirsch
I personally felt Ariana's correct me I'm wrong. Like the you and Lala weren't ever really.
- [59:25]
Ariana Maddox
No. But I really thought that we, we would kind of go like this, you know and I think at that time I really thought we were gonna like it was gonna keep going like that when she Came to the.
- [59:35]
Amanda Hirsch
She came to the show. Yeah.
- [59:37]
Ariana Maddox
And then I watched Vanderbilt, but I.
- [59:39]
Amanda Hirsch
Was like, oh, that was before the season came out.
- [59:42]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah. Before I came out, after we shot it.
- [59:44]
Amanda Hirsch
Supportive of you, I have to say.
- [59:46]
Ariana Maddox
So I really thought that was going to continue. And then, you know, and Sheena and I still keep in touch, but it's just not, you know, obviously we're not in the same place as we all were before.
- [59:55]
Amanda Hirsch
But is that sad that she in the thing? Because she said. You said to her, like, you're my family in the season finale.
- [60:01]
Ariana Maddox
And I still feel like that to some extent. It's just not, you know, we're not getting together all the time.
- [60:06]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
- [60:06]
Ariana Maddox
It's about to be her birthday tomorrow, so she's having a party.
- [60:09]
Amanda Hirsch
She 40 tomorrow.
- [60:10]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
- [60:11]
Amanda Hirsch
Oh, my God.
- [60:11]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
- [60:12]
Amanda Hirsch
Is everybody. Because you're turning 40. End of June.
- [60:15]
Ariana Maddox
June.
- [60:15]
Amanda Hirsch
She's tomorrow. Is it. Does. Is more people from the cast are turning 40 or. No, no.
- [60:20]
Ariana Maddox
Because Katie's like a couple years younger.
- [60:22]
Amanda Hirsch
Right.
- [60:23]
Ariana Maddox
And then Lala's obviously much younger.
- [60:26]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah. And then the boys are like.
- [60:27]
Ariana Maddox
And the boys are older. All these.
- [60:29]
Amanda Hirsch
So Sheena wrote a book. Yeah. Yeah. And she. She said she really hopes you read it. Are you gonna.
- [60:37]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah, probably. I. I'm more of like an audible person. Yeah. Audiobook.
- [60:42]
Amanda Hirsch
Lvp. Where are you with her? Because to me, like, she always really loved you throughout the seasons, but she does have a thing where she kind of loves the boys. Like, did you feel that in any way?
- [60:54]
Ariana Maddox
I think it's a little bit of loving the boys, but also loving the. I think it's like a business thing sometimes too, with her. Not always business decisions that I would agree with or that I would make or, you know, supporting people, I necessarily would not.
- [61:13]
Amanda Hirsch
Right.
- [61:13]
Ariana Maddox
In that way. But. Yeah, I mean, I. I don't. We don't, like, chat.
- [61:17]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah. Not having your tea times anymore.
- [61:20]
Ariana Maddox
No.
- [61:20]
Amanda Hirsch
No. Did you feel like she was happy to see you succeed?
- [61:24]
Ariana Maddox
I guess I just. I haven't really seen her like that.
- [61:28]
Amanda Hirsch
She wasn't in my comments, Like, I.
- [61:30]
Ariana Maddox
Was like, that was like two years. Like, I haven't even seen her since.
- [61:33]
Amanda Hirsch
Right.
- [61:34]
Ariana Maddox
You know, so.
- [61:35]
Amanda Hirsch
So were you. I know you. You came out like, to hope so.
- [61:38]
Ariana Maddox
But.
- [61:38]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah, you said that. I mean, I feel like she would say that.
- [61:41]
Ariana Maddox
I hope so. Yeah. I don't know.
- [61:44]
Amanda Hirsch
You did say that you were planning on not coming back, but you made it very. I love. Because I feel like now that you also said here that you're an overthinker and you think about everything. Because I feel like when you said it, you had, like, parentheses, like, just like, disclaimer. Disclaimer. Because you already know what people are going to say.
- [62:00]
Ariana Maddox
Yes.
- [62:00]
Amanda Hirsch
So it's kind of like, not. And I was not going to back. Come back. Not because I think I'm better. Not because I think of that. Not because I have to say it.
- [62:07]
Ariana Maddox
Because it's like, if I don't, they immediately go to that. As if that's like, they think they know me better than you know. It's, like, so silly. But.
- [62:15]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah, but you made those disclaimers that it's because you really felt like there was nothing more it was to do.
- [62:21]
Ariana Maddox
It was during when we were, like, negotiating contracts for season 11, and we were working on all this stuff. It was like, if they're working on Dancing with the Stars contracts, they're working on this contract. You know, my. My team, like, and I, we have these conversations all the time where it's like, which. What do we want to do? Where are we going?
- [62:43]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
- [62:44]
Ariana Maddox
And I was like. I was like, if this. I was like, I can't afford to say no to this. Like, I have. They were like, are you sure you want to go back? I was like, I have to, because then what. What do I do?
- [62:53]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
- [62:54]
Ariana Maddox
I was like, I don't have, you know, millions in the bank. I don't have. Like, what do I. What do I do if I don't? And I was like, plus, also, this has been my job. Like, why should I, like, disappear off the face of the planet? Because I was like, why don't I just show, like, that my room is filled with boxes that I'm cleaning out my. Which also, they didn't show why I had clothes everywhere because I was literally cleaning out my closet. Cause I was packing because I thought I was moving.
- [63:18]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah, you were just a slob.
- [63:20]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah. I like all the packing, like, everything. I've put everything in my room to try to pack it all up. Like. Like, guys get a fudgeing grip. But I was like, but if this could. Please, like, if. If we could make it so that this is my last. I feel like that would be ideal.
- [63:38]
Amanda Hirsch
You would feel good about it.
- [63:39]
Ariana Maddox
I would feel it. And. But I didn't tell anybody that, obviously.
- [63:41]
Amanda Hirsch
Besides, the guys were the team. Okay.
- [63:43]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
- [63:44]
Amanda Hirsch
So you kind of. Yeah. So you went in thinking that. And then.
- [63:47]
Ariana Maddox
And then I was like, and then we'll see how it goes.
- [63:49]
Amanda Hirsch
But, like, you feel like you would have had FOMO if they had us another season.
- [63:53]
Ariana Maddox
Fomo.
- [63:55]
Amanda Hirsch
What's the opposite? Oh, Jomo. It would have had Jomo.
- [63:59]
Ariana Maddox
They. They did come to us and ask. They asked me if I would come back.
- [64:03]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
- [64:04]
Ariana Maddox
And I said, well, you know, what does that look like? And what do you. You know? And there was a lot of different things talked about, and I think they were, like, taking temperature different places with different people. And for me, I was like, look, I mean, I've. I've done so much work on, like, my mental health is so much better right now, and I just feel like going back into that now doesn't really make sense. And then I was like, plus, when would you do that? I was like, I'm booked until.
- [64:33]
Amanda Hirsch
Let me check my story.
- [64:35]
Ariana Maddox
I was like, we could do it possibly in January. I was like, I just don't know how this is gonna work out.
- [64:39]
Amanda Hirsch
And I mean, I. You guys always, like Housewives. Two people always want to know who's coming back. You guys don't know until you kind of know.
- [64:46]
Ariana Maddox
Well, they never knew are we renewed or not until, like, so last minute.
- [64:51]
Amanda Hirsch
As a viewer was always surprised and was like, yeah, wasn't that the best looking season ever? Like, or the most ratings or whatever.
- [64:56]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah. But then you always think, like, well, you know, not like breaking, baby. Like shows, you know, big shows sometimes that's it, right? You're like, maybe it could be. You never know.
- [65:08]
Amanda Hirsch
You never know. And then I think there were, like.
- [65:10]
Ariana Maddox
I think there was a lot of different things. I think maybe. Maybe it was a factor, maybe it wasn't. I think maybe Katie was a factor as well. I know Katie. We had talked about it plenty. That we both didn't feel right about it or like, you know, maybe they were like, look, this. The puzzle pieces are just not coming together. And they. We. Maybe we should do. I think they should have done it in Vegas, though, with the staff. With the new.
- [65:35]
Amanda Hirsch
But with staff.
- [65:37]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah. Like, restaurant.
- [65:39]
Amanda Hirsch
Are you gonna watch this new one?
- [65:41]
Ariana Maddox
I mean, we'll see. I'll probably put it on and see if it gives me, like, you know, if it feels traumatizing. But I. I thought that they should have done instead of just doing it at sir with a new.
- [65:54]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
- [65:55]
Ariana Maddox
Cast. I thought they should have moved it to one of her others. I say, and kind of just been like, the whole thing's new now.
- [66:00]
Amanda Hirsch
The whole thing's now. But, yeah, it will be weird to see SIR just, you know, just new with new people. I wonder. I wonder if you're gonna care.
- [66:07]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah. I don't know.
- [66:08]
Amanda Hirsch
Something about her finally Opened.
- [66:10]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
- [66:11]
Amanda Hirsch
About. How was it? Over a year.
- [66:13]
Ariana Maddox
It's like a year in the works. Yeah.
- [66:15]
Amanda Hirsch
A year. And it happened even though people were like, there was that remote. Remember rumor that it was, like, fake and not gonna happen.
- [66:21]
Ariana Maddox
Yes.
- [66:21]
Amanda Hirsch
Or like.
- [66:22]
Ariana Maddox
And then people were like, it's a film set.
- [66:24]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my.
- [66:26]
Ariana Maddox
Like, for what?
- [66:27]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah. So it did happen. Opening a place. Was it harder than you thought?
- [66:31]
Ariana Maddox
May. It's like May 20th or May 21st will be our year.
- [66:34]
Amanda Hirsch
Still lines at the door.
- [66:36]
Ariana Maddox
It's very hard. It's hard now. It's hard. Was hard then. It's hard now it's different problems.
- [66:41]
Amanda Hirsch
Did you think going into it that it would be this hard? Or were you like, sandwich out?
- [66:44]
Ariana Maddox
Well, we knew because people always tell you, they're like, it's the hardest thing ever. You know, we're like, yeah, but we still really want to do it.
- [66:50]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
- [66:51]
Ariana Maddox
And we love it, but. Yeah.
- [66:53]
Amanda Hirsch
It is a lot of work.
- [66:54]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
- [66:55]
Amanda Hirsch
And do you. How often do you go?
- [66:57]
Ariana Maddox
When I'm in town, I try to be there twice a week.
- [66:59]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
- [67:00]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah. Or sometimes, you know, I like to take people there for lunch and then I like. I check in. Plus, also, it's like, we're having lunch.
- [67:05]
Amanda Hirsch
You can cut the line.
- [67:07]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah, I do. I mean, although, if there's like a big, you know, if there's a lot of people waiting, I won't do that. But usually it's a little bit more chilled out.
- [67:17]
Amanda Hirsch
Are you thinking of expanding so more?
- [67:19]
Ariana Maddox
That would be great, but I feel like the first location has to be.
- [67:23]
Amanda Hirsch
Like, just, like, working really well.
- [67:25]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
- [67:25]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
- [67:25]
Ariana Maddox
I feel like maybe down the road would be cool, but. Yeah.
- [67:28]
Amanda Hirsch
Love Island. You guys is coming back June 3rd. June closer than you think. Yeah, I love closer than you think. I hate when announcements, you know, when there's a movie announcement, it's like Margot Robbie is going to be Cinderella in 20. By the way. That I just. Like, that would be a good. She would be a great Cinderella.
- [67:45]
Ariana Maddox
Cinderella in 2028.
- [67:48]
Amanda Hirsch
So I love that, like, it dropped. That it's coming out and legit.
- [67:52]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
- [67:52]
Amanda Hirsch
Less than a month or a month from today? That. No, less than a month. It's coming.
- [67:56]
Ariana Maddox
Yes. The train is leaving the station, so.
- [67:59]
Amanda Hirsch
My mom brain needs to. Okay. That means you haven't filmed it yet. No, it hasn't happened yet.
- [68:05]
Ariana Maddox
No.
- [68:05]
Amanda Hirsch
You can't tell anything. It's all live. You don't even know what you're. Did you see, like, pictures of the new contestants or anything?
- [68:12]
Ariana Maddox
No, I don't even think they Know, because basically, you know, a lot of people get flown out and they are sequestered, and they're all in these. I mean, they're in Fiji. It's beautiful. They go to the gym, they can go to the pool, but they always have to have a chaperone because none of them are allowed to meet or see each other. And then they basically wait and then they find out if they're.
- [68:35]
Amanda Hirsch
Oh. Because it could be like.
- [68:37]
Ariana Maddox
Or sometimes people stay there and then they're like, hey, no, wait.
- [68:42]
Amanda Hirsch
Say, do they save some of those people for Casa Amore? Yes, from now.
- [68:45]
Ariana Maddox
Or they bring people. Or they might bring somebody later on. You never know. Like, there's no. And they're up there.
- [68:51]
Unknown
They.
- [68:51]
Ariana Maddox
They're like beautiful masterminds. Like, they're able to just kind of puzzle piece, and they know what to look for in a cast member, and they know what's going to be good or.
- [69:03]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
- [69:04]
Ariana Maddox
Like, I remember I saw a guy at the hotel last year, and I was like, that guy was really attractive. And they were like, he's not going to where he's getting sent home.
- [69:10]
Amanda Hirsch
I was like, oh, wait, so is that the audition period or that's the.
- [69:15]
Ariana Maddox
Like, after. Oh, the casting process goes on for a really long time with, like, meetings and phone calls and all kinds of.
- [69:23]
Amanda Hirsch
Stuff before you get surprised. Last season, like, who got the public attention? Like, Leah. Like, I thought I had my pulse on pop culture.
- [69:32]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
- [69:32]
Amanda Hirsch
But I would have not seen that coming.
- [69:34]
Ariana Maddox
Like, well, in the beginning, when the Rob. You know, when he. That first time, when. I also don't know sometimes, like, are we. Like, when they. When he chose Andrea or. No, the first person who came in, he chose. The first bombshell was at Liv, but he had done it before. Yeah, that's what happened. So Leah was standing there by herself, and I thought, oh, no, that's it. And then, of course, they tell me in my ear, and I get to be like, you're not going home. But I didn't know that. I didn't know right away. I'm going in, and we're going to fake out an elimination, and they're not actually going home. So I actually, for. For a minute there, I was like, oh, no, that's it for her. That sucks.
- [70:22]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
- [70:23]
Ariana Maddox
But then, of course, it's like, not only did she make it to the finals, she's second place with Miguel, and they're happily ever after.
- [70:28]
Amanda Hirsch
And you have seen, like, when you walked around the Bella, did you look at Miguel and Leanne? You were like, they're going to make it. Like I want to. What were did you think?
- [70:37]
Ariana Maddox
You never, you never know. I thought the, the top three couples, I had a lot of faith in, like, the. The whole time.
- [70:44]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
- [70:45]
Ariana Maddox
So you know, Janae, Kenny, Leah, Miguel and Serena Cordellaine.
- [70:49]
Amanda Hirsch
Kenny are still together too.
- [70:50]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
- [70:51]
Amanda Hirsch
Die.
- [70:51]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
- [70:52]
Amanda Hirsch
I'm dead.
- [70:53]
Ariana Maddox
So I like. And I loved them all. I thought they were like, all so cute and like, so good for each other.
- [70:57]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
- [70:58]
Ariana Maddox
But then I think to myself, yeah, but you don't really know them. Like.
- [71:03]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
- [71:03]
Ariana Maddox
I'm like, who knows what happens? And they go back to real life, but here they are and wild because.
- [71:09]
Amanda Hirsch
Leah and Miguel, I mean, he's from the uk. Yeah. She's from Calabasas.
- [71:13]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
- [71:14]
Amanda Hirsch
And now they're getting a spin off show.
- [71:16]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah. And they're all together. They're all like, gonna be like living in an apartment complex or something. In a house together or something. I don't know.
- [71:22]
Amanda Hirsch
But it's like, are you gonna make cameos there?
- [71:25]
Ariana Maddox
I don't know.
- [71:27]
Amanda Hirsch
She's around.
- [71:28]
Ariana Maddox
I don't know.
- [71:30]
Amanda Hirsch
You're like, depends on my schedule.
- [71:32]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah. I don't know.
- [71:34]
Amanda Hirsch
But that is. I mean, I don't know the numbers, but I will say I had until that point watched only the uk.
- [71:42]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
- [71:43]
Amanda Hirsch
And I jumped on USA this season you were hosting. I don't know if that's a coincidence, but I am sure that if we look at the numbers, you brought over a lot of new viewers.
- [71:54]
Ariana Maddox
I think there's a, A lot of people I saw in comments that would say, like, I never watched it before. I came initially.
- [72:03]
Amanda Hirsch
Right.
- [72:03]
Ariana Maddox
To see, you know, Ariana host. Hosting. But then, of course, then they stayed.
- [72:09]
Amanda Hirsch
Right.
- [72:09]
Ariana Maddox
Because the cast was so incredible. Because it was so good and it was so good. Yeah.
- [72:13]
Amanda Hirsch
It's so funny with each season of any real. The way I'm saying, like, I won't watch the new Vanderpump, but it's kind of like you get attached to these, to the cast. Yeah. And you're like, they'll never be as good. You know, and then somehow. And then first episode, you can still be like, see, not as. And then you get every, every season.
- [72:31]
Ariana Maddox
Of Love island, whether it's UK Australia. I always, when I'm as like a wa. As a viewer I'll be watching in the first couple of episodes, I'm like, I don't know.
- [72:40]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
- [72:41]
Ariana Maddox
Is this. And then. And then I'm hooked. And then I'm in love with everyone and I. Then all of a sudden it's different. And I.
- [72:47]
Amanda Hirsch
Were you ever there physically for one of the, like, makeout challenges has the.
- [72:52]
Ariana Maddox
The one with Nicole and Andrea and the one and the first episode when they had to make out before picking who they were gonna like.
- [73:00]
Amanda Hirsch
How. Because when I watch it, I don't know. I've become a prude with the years. Okay, you guys, I mean, I don't know, I just get. I'm like, oh, my God. To me, like, I, I. How are you. How are you there seeing the tongue and seeing all this happen and the grinding and the like, like, what are you feeling in those moments?
- [73:20]
Ariana Maddox
So it's, like, kind of hot, but it's also funny because it's so. I don't know, it's. It's weird too, because I, I feel like in my younger years, I'm not saying I've never made out with anybody, but, like, I've never been in that type of position where people are just playing these, like, make out challenges and.
- [73:39]
Amanda Hirsch
Where you would make out with anyone the same way you would make, like, the fact that, like, they go and there's a French kiss. Like, it's full French. It's full French.
- [73:49]
Ariana Maddox
I feel like they just have such. Yes. I think they, they prepare with.
- [73:54]
Amanda Hirsch
Oh, they prepare for these challenges.
- [73:56]
Ariana Maddox
Well, I definitely. Yeah. And I definitely think too, especially being a bombshell coming in or being a casa person, the amount of hyping up of yourself that you have to be able to do.
- [74:08]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
- [74:08]
Ariana Maddox
To have that confidence. Because if you come in and you're awkward and you're not confident, it's already. It's already bad. It's already.
- [74:15]
Amanda Hirsch
How was your confidence? Because I can imagine. I mean, we're seeing the slow mo, but when you walk in and those looks like bam, bam, bam. And then they're all like, Ariana, like, does that give you the most ego boost ever?
- [74:30]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah, it's so nice.
- [74:31]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
- [74:31]
Ariana Maddox
Well, and it helps too, that, you know, like, in glam with Carl and Krystal, and we've covered in me in body makeup and things like that to make sure that we're fully ready to walk in and nail it and be hot. But then also a little bit is. I am playing a character. A little bit. You know, it is a little bit of. I'm putting it on.
- [74:51]
Amanda Hirsch
Right. Because hosting, you can't just be like your cool, chill self. I can't.
- [74:55]
Ariana Maddox
Like, you have to lean back.
- [74:56]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah. Right. I got to, you know, be more on.
- [74:58]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah. I'm foam rolling. I'm like, I got. I have good posture. You Know, it's a whole thing.
- [75:03]
Amanda Hirsch
Do you love hosting?
- [75:04]
Ariana Maddox
I do.
- [75:05]
Amanda Hirsch
Do you want to, like, keep doing that?
- [75:07]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
- [75:08]
Amanda Hirsch
In other places?
- [75:09]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah, I love hosting.
- [75:10]
Amanda Hirsch
It's so good.
- [75:11]
Ariana Maddox
So much fun. Thanks.
- [75:12]
Amanda Hirsch
And I saw you said you don't. It doesn't feel like work for you.
- [75:15]
Ariana Maddox
No, it doesn't. Not at all. Really, because it's so interesting. And I love. Like, I walk in, I get to meet them, and I don't know, I just think they're so, like. Especially last season, it was my first time, and I had done the guest boss before, but it's different because I'm just coming in for one thing, then I'm out. But getting to. Sorry, there's like a fuzz. But getting to, like, come in and see them. And I've been watching their relationships progressing or not, and, like, it's a little bit bittersweet because in those moments, sometimes I really want to be able to.
- [75:49]
Amanda Hirsch
Just chat and give your opinion and.
- [75:51]
Ariana Maddox
Be like, are you okay?
- [75:51]
Amanda Hirsch
But do they. Do you get a time, like, behind the scenes ever to, like, chat?
- [75:55]
Ariana Maddox
No. No. Sometimes it can just be like a.
- [76:02]
Amanda Hirsch
What are you most excited about coming into this new season?
- [76:05]
Ariana Maddox
I'm really excited to meet the new cast, whoever they may be. I'm excited to see the refreshments to the villa. I know that they're doing a little bit of food right away.
- [76:15]
Amanda Hirsch
I might have said food.
- [76:16]
Ariana Maddox
That was my bad.
- [76:17]
Amanda Hirsch
That's what I get excited about.
- [76:19]
Ariana Maddox
Do they have more avocados for more avocado toast this year? By the way, they had all the avocados in Fiji, apparently. Couldn't find avocados anywhere outside of them eating it in the villa.
- [76:28]
Amanda Hirsch
Feel it this time.
- [76:29]
Ariana Maddox
I know I should. I should just be like, guys, you're not.
- [76:32]
Amanda Hirsch
Give a little avocado.
- [76:33]
Ariana Maddox
Appreciating this as much as you should. So, yeah, I'm excited to see how they've kind of revamped the villa. The new cast. I don't have any outfits planned yet. We have mood boards and ideas. So there you go. Excited to see what ends up happening there. And I'm really excited to see my crew again.
- [76:51]
Amanda Hirsch
And how long is the filming?
- [76:53]
Ariana Maddox
I will be there for about two months, but the filming is about six weeks.
- [76:57]
Amanda Hirsch
Two months in Fiji?
- [76:59]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
- [77:00]
Amanda Hirsch
Do they ever get, like, bad weather? Like rain?
- [77:02]
Ariana Maddox
Sometimes, yeah. But typically in this window, we're okay.
- [77:07]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay, cool.
- [77:08]
Ariana Maddox
It's usually later in, like, July, August, September, it starts to get more rainy.
- [77:13]
Amanda Hirsch
So. June 3rd, Peacock. 9pm every night, 9pm every day.
- [77:17]
Ariana Maddox
But hump Day. Oh, no. Episodes on Wednesdays.
- [77:21]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay. Thank God. We need it. I mean, we need to catch our breath. You know what I mean? It's so hard to. It's a job. If you get, like, Love island, you gotta, like, give it your all.
- [77:30]
Ariana Maddox
Yes.
- [77:30]
Amanda Hirsch
You know what I mean?
- [77:30]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
- [77:31]
Amanda Hirsch
I love that for you too, because it does feel like another manifesting of yours.
- [77:34]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
- [77:35]
Amanda Hirsch
That you. I remember you said on the show to your ex, you said, like, and I want to watch Love island or, like, something.
- [77:42]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah.
- [77:42]
Amanda Hirsch
I was like, yeah, like, putting Love island out there. I just love this for you. 40th birthday will be when you're filming. So are you gonna.
- [77:50]
Ariana Maddox
June 24th?
- [77:51]
Amanda Hirsch
Are you gonna plan. Do anything out there?
- [77:53]
Ariana Maddox
Yeah, I. I hope that I'm able to do something. Last year, I had a really, really amazing birthday that my. My, like, host team kind of put together, and it was really awesome, and it was like this incredible Fijian experience. Yeah. You know, there was. We ate lovo, which is like, they cook it in the ground. Like, it was all these things that, you know, it was really, really beautiful.
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Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
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Ariana Maddox
Night. And now I'm like, no, now what are you gonna do?
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Amanda Hirsch
You're like, we already ate the Levovo.
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Unknown
We.
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Ariana Maddox
We were. Had kava.
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Amanda Hirsch
We.
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Ariana Maddox
We did it all.
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Amanda Hirsch
It's gonna be bigger this time, babe. 40.
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Ariana Maddox
It's 40. I'm scared.
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Amanda Hirsch
No, that's so. But. But this is another example, like, getting older is better. I always say it. Don't. Don't you feel it? Like, yes, you're in the prime. You're prime.
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Ariana Maddox
No, I agree. Whenever people would say that, I was like, I don't know what they're talking about, but now it is living. Just don't look at my neck too closely.
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Amanda Hirsch
Stop. You're perfect. Thank you for coming on. So excited to watch you host the new season and happy almost 40th.
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Ariana Maddox
Thank you. Sorry, I'm about to break your mic.
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Amanda Hirsch
A new cable for she Hulk. Thank you guys so much for listening to this episode of Not Skinny but Not Fat. Follow me on Instagram at Not Skinny but Not Fat. Subscribe to the podcast so you don't miss any episodes. Rate the podcast that you love so much on Apple Podcasts and write a little review. If you tell me you did, I'll give you a big virtual smoocheroo. Thank you guys so much for listening, and I'll see you next Tuesday.
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Ariana Maddox
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Amanda Hirsch
Direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.