Emily Bader: People We Meet on Vacation

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Not Skinny But Not Fat

Host: Amanda Hirsch
Guest: Emily Bader
Title: Emily Bader: People We Meet on Vacation
Date: January 20, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Amanda Hirsch welcomes rising actress Emily Bader, the breakout star of Netflix’s “People We Meet on Vacation,” adapted from Emily Henry’s beloved novel. The conversation covers Emily’s journey to landing her career-making role as Poppy, her experience filming the anticipated rom-com, and the nuances of navigating sudden internet fame. The dialogue flows from the realities of being an actor—rejection, auditions, self-doubt—to Emily’s personal background, college years, and the realities of making a living in entertainment. The friendly, relatable tone makes for a refreshing insight into both Hollywood and Emily’s down-to-earth personality.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Amanda’s Hollywood-Adjacent Anecdotes & Episode Intro

• [00:01-08:21]
  • Amanda shares “Tell Me Lies” cast party stories, her empathy for the “supporting cast,” and her encounters with stars like Grace Van Patten and reality TV personalities.
  • Excitement for Emily Bader’s appearance and the success of “People We Meet on Vacation.”
  • Sets up Emily as humble and genuine:

    “She really is just like a normal cool girl that is on the number one movie on Netflix right now.” — Amanda [07:54]

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2. Emily on Motherhood, Social Media, and Success

• [08:22-11:45]
  • Bonding over the intensity of childbirth and “the superhero feeling” it gives.
  • Emily tries to avoid the hype online for her own sanity:

    “I genuinely don’t even really know because I’m just too scared to pay attention to anything.” — Emily [10:12]

  • She curates her social media feeds:

    “I’ve been trying to like, shift my algorithm right now to be like, cooking videos.” — Emily [10:22]

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3. Book-to-Movie Adaptation Challenges

• [11:10-14:50]
  • Emily discusses pressure to satisfy existing book fans and a wider audience.
  • Amanda relays her husband’s unlikely approval:

    “He sat there and giggled his tush off… He goes, she’s so good. From the burrito scene.” — Amanda [12:44]

  • They muse on the demand for classic rom-coms.

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4. Landing the Role & Casting Experience

• [14:50-18:47]
  • Emily details her unique path to being cast—no traditional audition, but a chemistry read after someone from Netflix connected her indie film performance (“Fresh Kills”) to her “My Lady Jane” role.
  • Frantic attempt to read the book in Sweden before the Zoom with the director:

    “I had to try not to get car sick while I speed read through this book.” — Emily [17:36]

  • She immediately clicked with the character of Poppy:

    “Poppy’s a yapper. I am also a yapper.” — Emily [18:37]

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5. Book Character Appearance vs. On-screen Portrayal

• [18:47-21:18]
  • Amanda reflects on casting controversies in adaptations; Emily is relieved that fans have embraced her despite not being a blonde Poppy.
  • Both discuss insecurities about hair and representation in Hollywood:

    “I was so insecure about my curly hair growing up, I think because, like, people always, like, why… Princess Diaries, like, the plot is—‘we gave her a blowout, now she’s hot.’” — Emily [21:05]

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6. Travel & Filming Locations

• [30:29-34:23]
  • Emily and Tom Blyth met for the first time in Barcelona, then filmed across Spain, Tuscany, and New Orleans for nearly three months.
  • Filming “vacations” ended up being a literal vacation:

    “Sometimes it is really a job. And other times you’re like, this is not a job.” — Emily [31:01]

  • Emily reveals she books her best jobs while on vacation due to “not holding on so tight” to the audition process.

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7. Background, Upbringing, and Theater Roots

• [41:52–54:53]
  • Emily grew up in a blunt, opinionated (not Italian, but close) family, not the popular girl in school, and found her people in college theater at Loyola.
  • Their raw first-day college theater class experience:

    “We all sat in a circle and had to cry. Like, think of a memory and start sobbing.” — Emily [54:33]

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8. The Realities of Acting: Rejection, Persistence, and No Plan B

• [59:59–62:38]
  • Emily’s father’s advice:

    “No backup plans. Don’t get a good job. If you have any reason not to do it, you probably won’t.” — Emily [60:04]

  • She details the pain of rejection, even after “almost” successes, and the importance of focusing on the craft:

    “All you can control in this business is your craft… Celebrate every little, tiny, tiny thing.” — Emily [61:51]

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9. Handling Sudden Fame, Support, and Humility

• [62:57–63:59]
  • Emily gets emotional discussing her gratitude, friendship, and self-pinching disbelief at her current success:

    “I have so many friends in this business… I would have just failed for a very long time. But I’m just trying to live in it because you never know when they’re gonna get over it.” — Emily [63:06]

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10. Rapid-Fire: On-Screen Kissing, Hardest Scenes, and Fan Moments

• [64:29–72:59]
  • Lucas Gage asks via voicemail: who’s the best kisser, Tom Blyth or Lucien?

    “I kissed Tom a lot more than Lucas… I could not stop laughing with Lucas. It was the hardest scene I think I filmed.” — Emily [65:13]

  • Hardest scene: Kissing in the rain was “freezing,” and technical to film, despite looking romantic.
  • The infamous blue wig was Emily and the hairstylist’s idea:

    “I was whispering—we have to do a wig. They haven’t said that I can do a wig yet, but I’m gonna find a way…” — Emily [67:39]

  • Amanda and Emily both join fans wanting the “unreleased” spicier footage from the adaptation.

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Notable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps

• “You just feel like a superhero for the rest of your life.” — Amanda [08:40]
• “I genuinely don’t even really know because I’m just too scared to pay attention to anything.” — Emily [10:12]
• “He sat there and giggled his tush off… He goes, she’s so good. From the burrito scene.” — Amanda [12:44]
• “Poppy’s a yapper. I am also a yapper.” — Emily [18:37]
• “Sometimes it is really a job. And other times you’re like, this is not a job.” — Emily [31:01]
• “No backup plan. Because I think it’s so… this job questions your love for it a lot in the beginning.” — Emily [60:04]
• “All you can control in this business is your craft… Celebrate every little, tiny, tiny thing.” — Emily [61:51]
• “I have so many friends in this business… I would have just failed for a very long time. But I’m just trying to live in it…” — Emily [63:06]
• “I was whispering—we have to do a wig. They haven’t said that I can do a wig yet, but I’m gonna find a way…” — Emily [67:39]

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Memorable Moments

• Amanda’s party story empathy for less-famous cast members (hilariously heartfelt)
• Emily speed-reading the book in Sweden to avoid being unprepared for her chemistry read
• Candid sharing about curly hair insecurities and growing up wanting the “Princess Diaries” blowout
• Confessions about college theater rituals (“everyone sat in a circle and had to sob on day one”)
• Lucas Gage’s playful “best kisser” question
• Fan excitement about the blue-wig, and Emily’s secret push for the look in the film

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:01–08:21] Amanda’s intro, party stories, setup for Emily interview
• [08:22–11:10] Emily on motherhood, social media, avoiding hype
• [11:10–14:50] Book adaptation chat, broad appeal, Amanda’s husband’s review
• [14:50–18:47] Getting cast, audition story, reading the book in a rush
• [18:47–21:18] Physical portrayal, hair, growing up curly
• [30:29–34:23] Shooting in Spain, Tuscany, New Orleans, “work comes calling on vacation”
• [41:52–54:53] Theater background, childhood, college dynamics
• [59:59–62:38] Parental advice, rejection, persistence
• [62:57–63:59] Fame, gratitude, processing the current moment
• [64:29–71:12] Lucas Gage’s question, hardest scenes to film, fan moments
• [71:12–end] Off-screen stories, talk about sex scenes and uncut footage

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Overall Tone & Takeaways

This episode encapsulates what makes Amanda’s podcast so enjoyable—a blend of celebrity insight with the relatability of a best-friends-on-the-couch chat. Emily Bader emerges as self-aware, funny, gracious, and ambitious. She peels back the glamorous veneer of Netflix stardom to reveal the grind, vulnerability, and joy of making it in entertainment. For fans of the film, the episode provides rich behind-the-scenes stories; for aspiring creatives, it’s a testament to persistence and humility.

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Transcript

[A]

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. Welcome back to the Not Skinny But Not Fat podcast. I'm your host, Amanda Hirsch, and I still can't believe that I get to chat with some of my favorite stars on my very own podcast, where you'll feel like you're just talking shit with your best friends in your living room. Hey, guys. Welcome back to Knotskin Went out fast. I'm your host, Amanda. We have a great episode today. Before we get into that, though, I did want to discuss my week. It's been a crazy week. I'm not tired for no reason. Like, aside from kids tired, I'm also tired hard. First of all, my episode with Chelsea Handler last week was so fun, and I loved hearing your. Your thoughts on it, your comments on it, and how much you enjoyed it. Like, I said, it was, you know, a dream come true for me, and actually, like, came. It's like, you know, you learn. You learn from podcasts, you guys, because she really is inspiring, and she makes you think, like, make every decision the right decision, and, you know, how confident she is and what she does and. And who she is, and I just love that, and I want to take it with me, and I want to soak it up. But what else happened last week? Oh, yes, I went to the Tell Me Lies podcast party. So. Went to the Tell Me Lies party. I even decided not to bring a plus one because I'm like, I'm gonna go, and I'm gonna hang with the cool kids, and I don't need anybody weighing me down. So I got confident. You know, I got confident in my year of yes. Of, like, I can handle anything. And then I get to the corner store. I was at the corner store, and I was immediately, like, overwhelmed. It was, like, packed. Like, packed. And I was like, oh, my God, Like, I'm gonna turn around, literally. Luckily, like, I know. Well, first of all, like, I feel like I really am part of the Tell Me Lies family, like, because of my love for the show from day one. Like, you know, the team over there really appreciated that, and, like, we've been in touch. And, like, I know the showrunner, and I know the executive producer who produces it with Emma Roberts. And, you know, the cast has been on. So, you know, I did feel confident, but when I walked in, I got this whiff of, like, oh, my God, what am I doing? This place is packed. I'm not in the mood for this. I'm going to walk out. And then a voice in my head was like, man, that. Let's Get a drink. Let's go from there. Get a drink. If after the drink you still feel like you want to die, then leave. And that's what I love about New York, especially. I don't know, you could leave anywhere and, like, get in your car and leave, but it's just like. I don't know, there's something about, like, in and out vibes, you know, like, you're in New York City, you pop into a place, you're not feeling it pop out. So had them. In the back of my mind, I'm definitely into champagne right now. It just feels like the classy, chic drink to drink at events. So I got a glass of champagne and literally, like, it's kind of like, you know, when you're like, God, you're not with me. And then other times you're like, God, things were being there when it matters. Like, it just feels like I was literally a second from turning around. And then plop. I found myself there post glass of champagne. Everything looked different. You know, I headed over to the back with the cool kids with the. With the grace Van Patten Jackson White, which, by the way, quit smoking. Everyone wanted to know, did we share a cig? I was looking forward to that. But they quit smoking and they're being super healthy, which we support. Right. I feel like Jackson looks so good in real life, you know, I don't know if it's because we, like, hate Steven, but, like, his hair grew out. Like, he just looks sharp. And obviously G V P is a goddess. And. And they're both great and sweet. And the rest of the cast, I have to say, I do feel bad for the rest of the cast because they were all there. And I was like, you guys should get in this, like, fucking real or TikTok that I made. But I just feel like being part of an ensemble, like. Like, they're great, but I just feel like they're not getting the recognition. Like, it's so obvious that it's like Jackson and GVP and they're the couple. Even though, like, everyone's a couple there, by the way. Like, no one seems to care. Like, I even saw, like, one of the actresses from there, like, trying to take an. An odo of off of a fucking tray. And the waiter was like, this is for this table. And I was like, she's the fucking star of the show. Like, give her the fucking lobster roll, you know? Or just. I feel like in conversations I had with the supporting cast, like, I would just be like. Like, I saw wrigley about to leave early. And I was like, why are you leaving, Wrigley? Like, which I don't think I'd call him Wrigley if I did that. It's like, why are you leaving? And he was like, you know, I was like, it's your event. And he was like, well, like, I don't know. I could just. I don't know if I was projecting, but it was just like. Felt like they kind of knew their place. And I don't think they feel like stars because they're not getting the love that the others are getting. I don't know. I have. It's like, I'm not gonna to my own horn, but I do. Like, my sympathy and empathy levels are really at. Like, I'm an empath. Like, I feel other people's pain, and sometimes it's so dumb, you know? Like, it's like, amanda, everyone's fine. Like, get over it. Everyone's fine. But that's what I felt. I felt, like, bad for them a little bit, but what else did I do? Oh, I. Okay. So I was hanging out with gvp and she was like, oh, my God, I can't believe who's here. And I'm like, oh, my God. Who? Like, who is GBP getting excited about? And she was like, from Love Island. From Love Island. And it was Kayla from Love Island. And I was like, oh, Kayla. Like, it's so cute. So then fast forward. I, like, see Kayla. She was been on the pod before, and she was so cute. She was literally had bedazzled crutches. Apparently, she. It's Rob's fault. She was, like, skiing with Rob or something, which, by the way, I have to get on Traders. So I was like, what's up? Blah, blah, blah. And she's so sweet. And I was like, wait, Kayla, do you want me to make your life? She was like, yes. And I'm like, you know who's was so excited and geeking out that she saw you? She was like. It was like, gbp, like Grace Van Patent. She goes, what? She was, like, shocked. She didn't believe me. And I'm like, come hop on over. Let me take you to meet her. So. So I take cute little Kayla from Love island, hopping, hopping, hopping over to meet Grace, who was so excited, so appreciative that that happened. Anyway, that was me three champagnes in. I almost got a tattoo. I got my tarot cards read. I called them tarot cards. And everyone made fun of me. And she was a fraud. She was Like, I was like, should I have another baby? And she was like, you have money, do it. Get help. And I'm like, was that what this queen, queen of hearts says? Like, what are you doing? Anyway, I guess the answer will just come, come at some point. I'm like, why is everyone talking to me about this? Like, people will come up to me and discuss that they're a child. And then I realize it's because I put my life online. Anyway, let's get to today's guest. I'm so excited about this one. From getting the pitch for this and, and hearing about this movie, People we meet on vacation, I knew was going to blow up. We, the best selling novel by Emily Henry was, you know, freaking huge. Is freaking huge. So of course the movie was so anticipated. People are waiting for it. And then it came out starring Emily Bader and Tom Blythe and oh wow, the reviews are in and they are amazing. People are loving them as Alex and Poppy. I watched it, I loved it. Huz watched it with me and was like, this is great. He was giggling. He was telling me how Emily Bader is the next thing. And I was like, yeah, she is. Lucas Gage told me that too. You know, when I, when I saw the movie was coming out, I saw Lucas was in it. I was like, is this going to be good? And he was like, oh my God, you don't understand. She's the next Julia Roberts. And I was like, done. I'm getting, I'm getting the girl. Getting the girl. So Emily Bader is here. So excited for you guys to hear this, to learn more about her. She's just like so humble, so down to earth. So just living in this moment because being great for, being grateful for it, being thankful for it. And I see that she has new opportunities already coming her way. I'm so happy for her. And she really is just like a normal cool girl that is on the number one movie on Netflix right now. So enjoy. Enjoy my convo with Emily Bader. And if you haven't watched People we meet on vacation, get on it.

[B]

You have kids, right?

[A]

I have kids, yeah.

[B]

It's so metal. I was saying this.

[A]

I was like, we didn't love that metal.

[B]

That's what my sister said the day after.

[A]

Like you had.

[B]

She's like, Emily, like shaking. She's like, women are metal.

[A]

Oh yeah.

[B]

That is.

[A]

Oh yeah.

[B]

Like violent.

[A]

If there's one thing that like is good about it, aside from the kid itself, is like you just feel like a superhero for the rest of your Life, I mean.

[B]

And I think that we downplay it.

[A]

We downplay it.

[B]

We're like, oh, yeah, it's hard. Like, no, I think it's like the craziest thing to ever happen to.

[A]

Like, I look back at the day in the hospital and I'm trying to remind myself it. That I remember looking at my husband and going like, this is fucking crazy.

[B]

Insane.

[A]

Like, this is. What am I doing being a back. Like, this is what I'm going to. I'm going to die.

[B]

Like, you could.

[A]

I know. And you know what I was watching during labor. You guys, don't do this. I was watching Queen Charlotte. Oh, did you watch that show?

[B]

Yeah, the, like, spin off of Bridgerton, right?

[A]

Yeah. So I watched her like, birth. Medieval, like, birth. I don't know what was wrong with me. That was.

[B]

That was. That was a decision that you made.

[A]

Was a decision that I made.

[B]

Hi.

[A]

Hi. I'm so happy you're here.

[B]

So this is the first time I've done, like, this.

[A]

This, like, pod.

[B]

Pod couch video. This is amazing.

[A]

Pod couch video.

[B]

This is a really good couch.

[A]

I'm so honored.

[B]

Thank you. So this.

[A]

We talked about you coming on the pod. Like, what feels. Feels like months ago. It feels like there was maybe like a teaser for the. For the movie, but maybe even not. Maybe there was just the announcement. And I was like, this is gonna be big.

[B]

It's been a.

[A]

It's been a trickle and then bigger than. Than. Than ever. Bigger than anything.

[B]

I genuinely don't even really know because I'm just too scared to. To pay attention to anything. So I'm kind of. I'm hiding myself from.

[A]

Are you not on social media?

[B]

I am. I mean, I am, yeah, but I. I think I've been. I've been trying to like, shift my algorithm right now to be like, cooking videos.

[A]

Oh, you're actively working on.

[B]

Working on the shift. Because now it's. I look and it's. It's like interviews.

[A]

It's my fyp. I don't know if. Because my, Like, I watched the movie. Obviously my emails know it. My. You know, they know every calendar knows it. But, like, my entire FYP on both Instagram and TikTok is. Is. Is the movie that's good. I guess people we meet on vacation is. Your interviews with Tom. Were you blown away? Like, you probably knew you're like, this is a book adaptation. Book fans be wild. But did you know, like, that. That it would really hit for people that didn't read the book?

[B]

That was the sort of Unexpected part, I think, because, you know, there is this built in fan base. She's got this amazing, loyal group of people. So I knew that there would be like a lot of anticipation from them. And that was kind of nerve wracking because obviously they have this book that it's so hard to adapt from a book. I think that you have such a clear vision when you read a book of what you want, you know, expect and see. But I didn't know how it would play with, you know, the. The people who aren't as familiar with her work. But I think people want rom coms right now.

[A]

I mean, everyone's talking about it, everyone's talking about the movie, but also about wanting rom coms. I feel like that's the new, like, thing to say. Like, where are the good old Harry Met Sally kind of like rom coms?

[B]

I feel like they're not always taken seriously as a genre and I think. But at the same time, everyone watches them.

[A]

Everyone watches them and craves them.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

This is a true story. My husband doesn't watch anything with me. Like, we have different TV schedules. You know what I mean? Unless I'm like, fine, I'll watch like Murder. Or I'll be like, there's a new documentary. But usually he doesn't watch my, like, Bravo. And.

[B]

And so you go, it's like separate rooms.

[A]

And not really separate rooms. It's more like whole, like, be there when I'm like watching something. Be on his phone. Like, we keep each other company. But he's on YouTube videos. But with this movie, which I thought, not for you, romantic comedy. He sat there and giggled his tush off.

[B]

Stop.

[A]

And was like, this is so good. He goes about you before he even knew you were on the show. He goes, she's so good. She's so good. From the, from the burrito scene.

[B]

Oh, my gosh.

[A]

He was like. And I'm like making it sound like my husband's compliment is the biggest one you'll ever.

[B]

No, no, no. That's a really, like. That's a tough group.

[A]

It's a tough group, right? So I told my, like, my followers. I was like, you know, they know because I'll always be like, what can we watch together? And then it's like really specific kind of shows or movies. But I was like, no, he fully watched it with me, loved it, enjoyed it. So it really is.

[B]

Tell him I say thank you.

[A]

I will. And it really is kicking his feet.

[B]

That's what you want, right? Giggling and kicking your feet on the Bottom of the couch.

[A]

She's so. And I was like, yeah, she's. She's amazing. You killed it. But I also have to ask you, like, I am. I'm telling you, this is unanimous. Everyone's saying perfect. Poppy and Alex, like, about you and Tom. That's the consensus. Again, not something that is always happens with, with book. No book adaptations.

[B]

I mean, that's the scary part. That's. It's a lot easier when. Not easier, but when you know it's a completely sort of brand new made up character. It's like, oh, well, at least if people hate this version of it, I can be like, yeah, but that was all on purpose. You know, that was. That was the, the part that we brought. We talked to the director. But in here, it's like, you know, there's 400 pages of her laid out in front of you. So I'm just. I don't even know how I'm here. This is crazy.

[A]

It is. I mean, it's. It's probably so nice though, that, I mean, because you were saying you're trying not to look too much at. But I'm telling you, the only criticism that I saw was people being like, it should have been a show. Like, we wanted an episode for every vacation. Right?

[B]

No, and that's the hard part. I mean, anytime you're condensing something that is that big into two hours, there's going to be so much that's left out.

[A]

So.

[B]

I understand that. But I mean, at least that's nice. They're being nice on there. Maybe I'll do some doom scrolling tonight.

[A]

Was there a conversation about it being a show?

[B]

No, I don't think so.

[A]

No.

[B]

But I also came on really late. I think Tom had been cast a while before me.

[A]

Well, I saw that he was there. I saw the video of. Because again, my FYP of you, them telling you that you got the part and, and bringing you on the zoom. And then he popped up on the zoom.

[B]

Yeah, he had already.

[A]

So he. So was he attached to it from, from kind of the get.

[B]

Yeah, I think, you know, he, He. I think it. Yeah, he's. He's a bit fancy. He's. He's, you know, he's. He's Hunger Games. So they said he's perfect. And I think, you know, I mean, how could you not think he's perfect? And so he had been attached for a while and then it happened for me in this, like, weird blur. It was the first time I'd ever sort of skipped the very traditional Audition process and gone straight to a chemistry read.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

Because, I mean, up until then, it was, you know, you get the email and you're like, sick. I'm gonna do this audition. I'm gonna force someone to tape with me and try not to take three hours. And then I'm gonna, you know, fiddle with my. My fingers and hope I get a callback or hear something. And then you don't. And months later you're like. So I'm assuming that's not happening. That's what I was super used to. So this was the first time that someone had seen something I'd been in and kind of connected those dots, which felt like something you always really want to happen.

[A]

Did they see Because My Lady Jane. I mean, you're downplaying it, but you were leading role on My Lady Jane on Amazon.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So did they see that and think of you for it?

[B]

Well, they did, but it was actually a little bit more complicated than that. Cassidy Lang, who works with Netflix, she worked with us on this movie. She's amazing. Had gone to this screening of this indie I did called Fresh Kills. It's like, about Staten Island. It's Sami and Odessa Azion.

[A]

Oh, cool.

[B]

Which is so funny. We did it a few years ago, and she had seen that and then I guess put my name on a little sticky note on her desk somewhere, forgot about it. And then when My Lady Jane had come out, she connected those dots and was like, oh, this is the same person. Maybe this is actually what we're looking for, I guess. And then had relayed that to our director, and I met him over zoom. And we. I was in Europe at the time, and we just talked and read through the scenes, and then they're like, okay, tomorrow you're gonna do a chemistry read. It was crazy.

[A]

Have you had you read the book at that point?

[B]

When I found out I was going to get the chemistry read, I guess, or the director conversation, I, like, desperately tried to find an English copy of this book.

[A]

Oh, cause you were in Europe.

[B]

Yeah, and I wasn't. I was in Sweden, and it was harder to find than I expected.

[A]

Did you find it?

[B]

I did. Okay. And then I. But we were. I was. I was with friends, the car. And I had to try not to get car sick while I speed read through this book.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

And I'm a notoriously car sick person, so.

[A]

Oh, I can't get in the car either.

[B]

It was a really good test of.

[A]

Willpower, but it was power through.

[B]

It was such a good read. That.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I was just so excited to get to talk to everyone about it.

[A]

And did you, like, know from. From the minute you read it, like, how you were going to play her?

[B]

Yeah, I think so.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I always feel like you can kind of tell right away if. How easy or hard it is to find your way into a character. Kind of. I sometimes think a good tell for me is how easy I can memorize it.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Sometimes. Unless it's, like, jargon. Right. If it's like a doctor show, that's just hard no matter what. I don't know how those people do that. It's so difficult. But usually I can memorize something really quickly if it just sort of makes sense in my head.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I remember I was. You know, poppy's a yapper.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I am also a yapper. But it was a lot of words.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I think I read it twice and had it down, and I was like, okay, this is. This is good. This is a good sign.

[A]

So everyone is saying, you're perfect as Poppy, even. I saw somewhere that in the book, it kind of says, they're blondish.

[B]

Yeah. She has, like, he's sandy blonde. She's blonde.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Curly hair. I was. I thought they were gonna dye my hair.

[A]

Yeah. And still no one is saying. No one's mad about it. I'm so happy because, I mean, the last book adaptation that I saw, the movie is it ends with us. And that didn't go so well in a lot of different. I love the movie personally, but there was opinions. There were opinions about the characters from the. Also, we didn't really get paparazzi of you, which we do a lot.

[B]

Yeah, it was. It was pretty.

[A]

It was, like, kept under wraps, which is so good. Movies need to. I hate.

[B]

I hate spoilers.

[A]

I know.

[B]

I don't even watch trailers anymore. I like to just go in blind.

[A]

Yeah. You like to raw dog a movie?

[B]

I do like to raw dog a movie. I think it's the best way because expectation is just so dangerous, you know?

[A]

That's like, not. That's like, mega spoiler.

[B]

Oh, I know. And I don't want. And it's also such a tricky thing because, like, someone taking a street photo of costumes on out of context, it's like, it's not gonna look like that.

[A]

Right.

[B]

You know what I mean? There's so much that goes into the lighting, the way that they're gonna shoot it. So I think it's, like, difficult anyway.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But, yeah, I was down for them to dye my hair blonde. But it's probably for the best. They didn't. I don't know if I'd be a good blonde.

[A]

You could probably. First of all, I would love your hair.

[B]

I would like to do, like, this.

[A]

You could probably do.

[B]

This is very nice.

[A]

But I love your hair and I love that in the movie it has, like, texture and it's just, like, so good.

[B]

I have really curly hair. This is absolutely fake. This is 100% beautifully manipulated by some very talented.

[A]

But you have, like, curl curls.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[B]

And I never really.

[A]

Wait, is it your hair in the scene? And that is like.

[B]

They brushed out my exaggerated and like, poofed it.

[A]

Yeah, a lot. Yeah.

[B]

Because that's like the poppy poof, which was just taking all my middle school insecurities and putting them on display. But yeah, I was so insecure about my curly hair growing up, I think because, like, people always, like, why? Like, I love it now, but, like, why. Why don't you just embrace it?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, maybe because literally the whole the Princess Diaries, like, the plot is, we gave her a blowout and now she's hot.

[A]

Maybe that's why.

[B]

And that affected me.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But, yeah, so it was fun to get to play with that a little bit. I want to do, like, my natural hair for a full movie one time. I think that would be amazing.

[A]

That would be really cool.

[B]

It's totally different, though.

[A]

I want to see it.

[B]

I'll show you a picture.

[A]

I want to see it. Because I. I agree. Like, for me, like, I have a lot of hair.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So like, I'll see, like a girl that has, like two, you know, like the hair where you could get a bob because you don't have a lot of hair. And so, like, you want that. And then people look at my hair and they're like, well, you have thick hair. You should be happy. And I'm like, but I always wanted to be the thin haired girl.

[B]

You want what you can't have.

[A]

You want what you can have.

[B]

Oh, this chic sort of.

[A]

Right.

[B]

French bob. I used to beg for that when I was a kid. And they would say, no. Oh, sweetie, no, you can't do that. I'm like, what about just above the. Should know?

[A]

No.

[B]

Gotta weigh that down.

[A]

Right. If they're telling you no, then, you know, they would tell me no as well.

[B]

I do think. I think the difference is you can do it. I love a curly bob. You just have to be good at hair.

[A]

Right?

[B]

You got it. And I'm not. I am. I mean, it takes an Absolute village. To get any of this looking like this. It is like every day of my life is tied to the top of my head.

[A]

Tell me what. Like, where are your ancestors from? Like, what's your background?

[B]

I think I'm. Okay. German.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

We think. I think that's bader. Feels. I think German.

[A]

Wait, are we supposed to say bader?

[B]

No.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

We don't do that.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But I think that's where it comes from.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And then I think my mom says French. They were, like, French Canadian, but from France.

[A]

I could see French. And. Yeah.

[B]

Thank you so much.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's the best compliment I know.

[A]

I loved when Poppy said, like, smoking a cigarette in Paris. And then he was like, you smoke?

[B]

You're like, no, But Paris me would Paris me. It's true. I've always wanted, you know, those, like, Vivian Westwood lighters.

[A]

No.

[B]

Oh, my gosh. Vivian Westwood does a good lighter.

[A]

Okay. She sells them, and it's like the heart.

[B]

It's the. The chicest thing you've ever seen. Uhhuh. And I've. I always want one. And then people are like, do you smoke? And I'm like, no, but I might just start if I get that lighter.

[A]

So, like, anyone who dates you needs to listen to this pod and buy the. And buy her the lighter and start a smoking hat and get her smoking.

[B]

Let's just start working out.

[A]

I need to look. I mean, did you see Sean Penn smoking at the Golden Globes inside? Oh, you've been offline.

[B]

I watched the Globes coverage. He was like, lit a cig.

[A]

No, lit a full. Like, not a vape. Like a cigarette at the table.

[B]

That is.

[A]

He doesn't give.

[B]

The most Sean Penn thing I think I've ever heard in my entire life.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Wow. In a tux.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, I kind of live for it.

[A]

I can't.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

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[B]

Right? I mean, up until that point, it had been kept totally secret for me. And I know that there was some like, it's always so complicated, you know, the scheduling. Is it going to be able to. So everything in my mind at that point was like, just assume it's not going to happen. Just like let yourself down easy now. And then I got this call, hey, you're gonna hop on a zoom with Brett. And I was like, okay. And I didn't really know it was gonna happen. I figured it was not a bad thing. But there's always like the thought in the back of my Mind that maybe he's just gonna be really nice and say, oh, I'm so sorry. It's not gonna work out. But, like, thank you for. We'll do something else together. Sometimes they do that. Right. Let you down easy. But then I started to press record, and I was like, oh, and you cracks up. And I'm like, if they're about to, like, fight, like, fire me and record it. That's just evil. So I had a slight feeling.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But then Emily, Henry being there.

[A]

Yeah. That was crazy.

[B]

And Tom being there and them it being a whole thing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm just so happy. I did my makeup because.

[A]

Wait, so was that the.

[B]

I'm not always, like. That's a rare, rare form for me. So the fact that I was like, okay, gotta look. Gotta try to, like, put together for this. Because then it was everywhere.

[A]

Because then it was everywhere. So you and Tom met, like, when you started filming for the first time in person?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

I mean, we. We did the. The Zoom, which was just a blur. And I was like, he's the cool blonde guy from Hunger Games. And then we met in Barcelona two weeks maybe before filming. And it was so fun. I mean, that city is so cool.

[A]

Wait, was that the first city you shot in?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

We were in Spain for, like, two months. All over Spain. We did Costa Bravo, which. Oh, my. That is a vacation spot.

[A]

Wow, that's so fun, too. Yeah.

[B]

It's ridiculous. Sometimes I'm like, that's not a job.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Sometimes it is really a job.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And other times you're like, this is not a job.

[A]

Wait, so Spain. So what were the places that you actually filmed and that you were real.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That you traveled to?

[B]

We shot all over Spain. And in Spain, we faked Canada. Squamish, which is crazy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They found these woods, and I think it works. And then Tuscany, which is an easier sell.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Looks a bit different. We shot Costa Bravo, which is all the beach scenes in the beginning. And. And then we went to New Orleans.

[A]

You. Okay.

[B]

And shot New Orleans there. And then we also shot, like, a lot of the interiors, Poppy's apartment, because that's all stages and things.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And Linfield was in New Orleans, like, suburb outskirts. And I was like. Like, I think it'll work. But there's, like, a very specific architecture here. But I don't think it really mattered in the moment. And it was so fun to just, like, be in two places. I think that if we had tried to hop all around, it probably would not have been as much as, like, a bonding experience.

[A]

How long did this all take?

[B]

I think it was maybe three months.

[A]

Three months?

[B]

Two and a half. Under three? Just under three.

[A]

Oh, wow. And when was this?

[B]

This was end of the year 2024.

[A]

Oh. So not even. I mean, not that crazy.

[B]

It feels like forever.

[A]

And when did the whole process start?

[B]

Right. Maybe a month before that.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah, it. I mean, truly sped by.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

I mean, basically, it was. I did the zoom thing, thought it went well, had a great time, and then was just anxious for maybe two or three weeks, not hearing anything.

[A]

And what were you doing in Europe? Vacationing.

[B]

I used to vacation. Fun. I was on vacation. It was kismet.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. I think it's. You know what, though? I do have this, like, really strong belief that anytime you go on vacation, work comes calling every time. For me, I booked My Lady Jane on vacation. I was. I had to fly back, like, overnight to get to la. Cause I was on vacation to come back to try to get My Lady Jane. I booked the indie film I did before that when I was on vacation. I think it's, like, the second that you.

[A]

Maybe it's a you thing. Has it happened to other people that you.

[B]

I hear. I hear this from people.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

I think it's because it's like you're holding on so tight, you know, when I'm in Los Angeles.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, I haven't worked in a year. Maybe you're holding on really tightly. And then the second that you sort of, like, no one talked to me for one week.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's when all the phone calls come in. So I honestly think I should go on more vacations.

[A]

So now when you'll have a lull, which you won't after this movie, but if that ever happens, go on vacation. Go on vacation.

[B]

And I also think. I mean, I know vacations are obviously a luxury, but I think you can make a vacation out of anything.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And if you do have time off, I had the best advice from Anna Chancellor. I don't know if you know who she is. She's amazing English actress who played my mom on My Lady Jane. And she told me. She's. She was like, emily, go on vacation, because you come back tan and cheeky and you get more jobs. And I was like, that's the best advice anyone's ever told me in my life.

[A]

Can you get tan? Can you get a good tan?

[B]

I can.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

My sister cannot. We're totally.

[A]

That's, like, where we really left off with that, too. Like. Like, No, I can get tan.

[B]

I'm good with the UVs.

[A]

Yeah. Like, you might think I'm not. Yeah, I can get tan.

[B]

I'm getting better at the sunscreen thing. I really was not.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

As bad at that as I think most people are, it's like, oh, you just turned 30. 29.

[A]

Oh, 29, baby. Okay. Yeah. Not apply sunscreen for, like, one more year. I feel like when you turn 30, then you're like, I have one more.

[B]

Year of skin damage.

[A]

Yeah, one more year. And then you're like, okay. Shouldn't be doing that.

[B]

No, I'm. I'm like. I'm hopping on that. That experimental skincare train right now. Because I'm like, oh, gosh. I gotta. Because I'm trying not to do anything.

[A]

Like, you don't want to do the Botox and the things you want.

[B]

I'm gonna. I'm gonna make an attempt.

[A]

You want to, like, move. I think you want the things to. I. You're expressive.

[B]

I'm very. I. I'm expressive to a fault. Sometimes not good at concealing my opinions. Like, at a dinner table. Gets you in trouble.

[A]

Sometimes I think your friends have to call you out, be like, you're doing the thing.

[B]

You got that face going.

[A]

And I'm like, oh, yeah, that's just her face.

[B]

That's just my face.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

A little rbf. No, I'm more just, like, confused.

[A]

Well, that will give you 11.

[B]

I died. I am. But I'm just always so. Life is so, you know, confusing. But I just. I just think. I don't know if I'd recognize myself because I'm constantly, like, doing this.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I got the red light going.

[A]

What do they say in the beds about Botox? Like, what a. What a casting director be like? Or whoever in the movie. Could they be like, do it. Don't. Don't do it. Or like someone who does it, Would they be like, could you not get it for.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

I think they're like, talk about it.

[B]

I feel like sometimes people will be like, just like a little baby.

[A]

Baby Botox.

[B]

I think I'm also scared of it, though. That's also. It's like a personal thing.

[A]

Like, I can see you're thinking about it. Like it's in your mind.

[B]

It's because I'm 29.

[A]

Like, I'm 29. First of all, you don't need it. Okay. I will say it is magic.

[B]

I know.

[A]

Like it. Because you know how you apply skin care. Apply skin care. Oh, no, nothing Happens and you're like, okay, this is, you know, $300, but. And then with Botox, two days later, you wake up and you're like.

[B]

Do you know what it is for me, though? I have. I'm a little bit of a hypochondriac sometimes and paranoid about, like, medical stuff.

[A]

I get it.

[B]

And I do think me, for me, I'd be sitting there, like, something bad's gonna happen.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

My. My face is gonna. Something.

[A]

It would make you anxious.

[B]

It would just. And I'm already just, you know, vibrating.

[A]

At all times as you are. Don't do it.

[B]

I think to each their own, you know?

[A]

Yeah. And if you get to a point, you'll get to a point.

[B]

Hey, hey.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

That's what I'm saying right now.

[A]

Your baby.

[B]

I feel.

[A]

You don't feel like a baby.

[B]

My back hurts.

[A]

My knees.

[B]

Click.

[A]

So back to the traveling. Because you're, like, into traveling, which is crazy. Crazy parallel for you and Poppy.

[B]

I know. I do love it.

[A]

You love it. How do you feel about turbulence on planes?

[B]

I get scared. I'm not gonna lie. Someone told me one time, if you ever want to sort of put yourself at ease, you get like, a cup of water, and you can see the water itself is not actually moving very much.

[A]

Do you hold it in the air?

[B]

Yeah, you just, like, hold a cup when there's turbulence and you can see the water's just like. Because it's not actually moving. That crazy. But, I mean, I really get a little sweaty sometimes.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I do love.

[A]

But doesn't take out, like, is there something that, like, ruins travel for you? Like a bad flight, a delay, Like.

[B]

A bad person you're sitting next to?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I had one. One experience that just. I was spinning out over it. I was on a flight from Vancouver to la, Sat next to this girl who was just having a great time. She had a great time. She was going to Vegas, had a layover in Los Angeles. She was ready to be in Vegas. I mean, she had. I think she had started pre gaming maybe the day before.

[A]

Stop. And by herself. And she was by herself.

[B]

Yeah. She was being, like, meeting. And I. I'm so, like. I couldn't help but try to, like, help her because I was scared she was going to get kicked off the plane. She. And they just kept giving her red wine merlot. Spilled an entire glass on me, by the way.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Thankfully, I travel in, like, the most heinous clothes, so it was fine. And they just kept serving. And I was like, can we stop? Can we stop?

[A]

Give me this.

[B]

She was really drunk and standing up, like, dancing. No. And the worst part of it was I was just, like, trying to be like, let's look at the movie. Like, oh, my God. Let's just, like, keep our voice down that everyone thought that I was with her.

[A]

And you're like, so people were giving.

[B]

Me the death glare the entire time. And when we got off the plane, I felt like I had to be like, yeah, no, I'm not, actually. No. I'm like, we're not together. And people were like, oh, you're not? And I was like, no, no, I don't. I wonder. I to this day, wonder if she made that flight stop, because I remember getting off and she went right to the bar, and I was like, girl.

[A]

You gotta lay out. You gotta.

[B]

You gotta take a break.

[A]

You know what? I'm a. I never really connected with getting drunk on a plane.

[B]

I do not.

[A]

Because I'm a little anxious. So for me, I'm like, I don't know. Will that do? Well, for me in this altitude, I.

[B]

Can'T even, you know, eat a snack on a plane without feeling like I'm gonna.

[A]

Oh, you get a little nause.

[B]

I could bloat.

[A]

Oh, you get bloated?

[B]

I bloat anyway. I, I, he. Like, I could like, float to the ceiling levels of bloat. And I don't know. Something about an airplane, it feels like all of, like, your body just, like, stops functioning.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I just, like, sit there and.

[A]

Does happen with the digestive system on a plane. I will say.

[B]

I don't think it's good.

[A]

It's not good.

[B]

I think that's why everyone in there is just, like, it just bodily things are happening, and it's kind of.

[A]

No. Things that plane that are crazy to me are like, when you're like, am I being filmed? Is like, when there is, like, just a choir of coughing.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

And you're like, is this real life that everyone is coughing collectively right now?

[B]

And, you know you're just getting something?

[A]

No, you're getting it.

[B]

I think it's probably good to wear a mask on a plane.

[A]

Yeah. Do you?

[B]

I don't. And I have one in my bag. And I just forget. Every single time you forget it, then.

[A]

I do feel weird about it. Like, no, I don't look at you.

[B]

Oh, I don't care. No, I mean, like, who I think when I see it, I'm like, that's smart.

[A]

Yeah. I'm like, that's smart.

[B]

Because I always get sick after travel. I would. I saw a play last night, and it was the. It was like a cacophony of.

[A]

Which show did you see?

[B]

It's called Data.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

It just opened. It's crazy recommend.

[A]

It's doesn't sound like a play name.

[B]

It is kind of brilliant.

[A]

Really.

[B]

Yeah, it's, like, just started. It was in, like, the second night of previews, but it's Broadway.

[A]

Off off. I like off because then I like off just physically, because it's not in Times Square.

[B]

And it was amazing because the subway runs under the theater. So at really tense moments, the floor would vibrate and it felt was part of it, but there was also a cacophony of absolute. Just. Is that a word?

[A]

I don't know. I love it, though.

[B]

I felt like that was. Sounded really good, one of the SAT words coming back. Felt like people were really just having a hard time in there.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Just coughing and snorting.

[A]

It's such a bad time. Everyone's sick right now, and you're just like, oh, yeah.

[B]

But it was a great place.

[A]

Wait, are you a. The theater girl?

[B]

I'm of a fan of the theater.

[A]

You're a fan of the theater?

[B]

Yeah, I went to school for it.

[A]

You went to school for it? Like, in college?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Loyola. Right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Saying a weird.

[B]

No. Loyola. Bless my parents. Because, geez. Like a theater degree. To convince. To convince. I mean, to convince your parents to.

[A]

Like, pay for it.

[B]

For a theater degree. I'm very, very fortunate.

[A]

You mean because it's, like, not like you're guaranteed a job.

[B]

It's a tough one. I mean, it's not. It's. I think it's not so obviously applicable to success, at least not all the time. I think, like, Tom went to Juilliard.

[A]

He did?

[B]

He did.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[B]

I know. He's a fancy guy.

[A]

That is really. That's like six people get in a year or something.

[B]

I did not even consider applying.

[A]

Conservatory. No.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Sick.

[B]

I know. He's. He's. He's very, very talented.

[A]

He went to Juilliard. You didn't apply?

[B]

Oh, no.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

No, I, like, that's like, bfa. I did a BA Loyola has a really, really great film program, and I had an amazing time there for theater, but it wasn't at the time, like, known for that. Known for that. And if I'm being honest, I literally got rejected from, like, so many schools.

[A]

Really? What was your thing?

[B]

Because I was really bad at acting, like. No, it's true. I had no business thinking I could be an actor when I was 18. I didn't do a whole lot of theater when I was a kid. In the theater that I did, it was, like, really few and far between and not great.

[A]

And so what made you think it was your. Your dream and your calling?

[B]

Delusion? I have no idea. Like, I love movies so much, and it had gotten to the point when you need to start making some, like, life decisions. And I realized I had zero other ideas in mind.

[A]

Or, like, interests.

[B]

Yeah, interests. I wasn't even like that when I was a kid. I was never, I want to be a veterinarian or a astronaut. I hadn't. I never said those things. I don't.

[A]

Did you say, I want to be an actress?

[B]

No, but I would want to be, like, characters in movies. Like, depending on what movie I had seen, would just dictate who I was for like a week or two.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Like, what were your faves?

[B]

Oh, I mean, when Twilight came out.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

All of a sudden, I was shy.

[A]

Can I tell you, when I read the Twilight books, Emily? I was like, I could drink blood. Like, oh, yeah. No, no. I was like, this is why I shouldn't read is because I got so enmeshed with, like, Bella. Even when I got pregnant, I was like, oh, my God. I was thinking about her vampire baby baby all the time. I was like, I have a vampire baby. See, look in the mirror and think it's, like, happening.

[B]

I just, like, love to play. I play.

[A]

Pretend you thought you were shy.

[B]

I was like, oh, I'm call. All of a sudden, I'm like, showing up to school and I'm like, just hearing. And everyone's like, what's wrong with you?

[A]

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[B]

No, I mean, it's interesting. I feel like, what is it? Introverted, extrovert. I'm, like, extroverted in social situations, but I can get really burnt out. I'm kind of a homebody, actually. Yeah, I didn't have, like, a super easy time with friends when I was a kid. Maybe because I was pretending to be Bella from Twilight. Maybe this is it, actually. Oh.

[A]

Oh, that's the song.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

No, I'm dying. I'm just picturing you, like, with a red cheek, Bella, putting, like, headbands, like, oh, yeah, yeah.

[B]

The little brown bomber jackets.

[A]

Driving a truck. Your dad's drag.

[B]

I definitely did do that, though, when I was young, whenever anything, like, kind of bad would happen or, like, I didn't have the easiest time in school with friends. And if I ever was, like, sitting alone or, like, having feeling Like a bit of a loner, I would pretend I was in a movie. That's, like, how I would cope with it. You know, when you look out the window of a car and you pretend.

[A]

You'Re in a music video, you put a good.

[B]

Yes, I did that with, like, every aspect of my life.

[A]

So you were, like, playing pretend?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You're, like, escaping from. But why was it hard for you in school?

[B]

I don't know. You know, I think to this day, I just. I found I'm the type of person who has, like, a few close friends. I think I'm maybe not what people expect of me to be. Maybe I'm actually kind of, like I said, a little bit more introverted. Like, I'm an extrovert, but I'm not someone who's gonna be, like, the life of the party. And I think I was also just really insecure, so I had a hard time sort of asserting myself with friends. And also, I think, you know, I have such amazing girlfriends now, but in, like, middle school and high school, it can be tough. Those. Those female friend groups breaking each other down. I think maybe it's getting better now.

[A]

So you weren't, like, the popular girl?

[B]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no.

[A]

Not at all. Like, when you got to Loyola, like, theater, did you feel like you found your people?

[B]

I found my people. Because you can. Right. In college, it's like, it doesn't matter how many friends you have. It's like you're working on your. Yourself and your life, and you can find people with similar interests and. You know, my best friend now is someone I met in college. In college, and. And that'll be forever, you know, And.

[A]

I think people in college are crazy.

[B]

Oh, whoa.

[A]

Yeah, Sorry. Finish your theater.

[B]

Theater parties are truly. Someone should make a movie about that. I'm sure they have, but. Yeah. And I also think I grew up in, like, a pretty blunt family.

[A]

Blunt.

[B]

So I might not be the best at not saying what I think. And that doesn't always go over so well when you're young.

[A]

Is that a. Because I'm trying to understand, like, your. Like, your family. Because bluntness is usually like. Like, Americans aren't that blunt. Usually.

[B]

Yeah, we definitely veer more. Like, we're not Italian. But it feels a little bit like that, like, at talking over each other all the time.

[A]

Like, you. You'll tell each other if you, like, look ugly. We're bad in. At something.

[B]

Yeah, a little bit.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And it's opinions everywhere.

[A]

And you would do that with friends sometimes. And they.

[B]

Well, I would never do. I. I mean, I would hope I was a little. A little bit more delicate than that. But I think it's like, I call stuff out.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, I really have a hard time, like, seeing someone do something and being like, oh, it's okay. It's not worth it to get into that. I'm kind of like, I need to get into that. We shouldn't. We shouldn't do that. And, you know, honestly, I was. I think it's just sometimes high school's not for everyone.

[A]

And then theater.

[B]

Then theater.

[A]

They're okay with talking about everything.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

In the morning.

[B]

But I wasn't even really a theater kid either. I was like, this. I didn't quite fit. Like, I was, like, the most untheatery theater kid in theater.

[A]

Gotcha. And I'm. I. I did some theater classes in college, and they would be talking about anal at 9:00am oh, yeah. They just talk about. And you're like, whoa. Oh, no. Or even like, tell me if it was like this for you. It was, like, regular classes. Like, you know, a finance class. It'd be like, attendance, Amanda Hirsch. Here, here. You'd go to theater class. It'd be like, hey. Like, it's just.

[B]

Oh, it's a lot of personality. Like, there's singing, there's communal crying. The first day of my first theater class at college, we all sat in a circle and had to cry. Like, think of a memory and start sobbing. And we go one by one, and I was like, I have. I'm gonna have to drop out. But I made it.

[A]

You did it.

[B]

It was terrifying. It's absolutely, like, vulnerable.

[A]

You had to fucking cry.

[B]

And not just cry, sob. And some people were, like, really crying. And you kind of look over and you're like, are you okay?

[A]

Plus, you're, like, jealous. You're like, damn, your water works.

[B]

Oh, yeah. And I'm like, why? Why can't I do that? You know? But. But it's also so fun.

[A]

I mean, it is fun. I was just hearing somebody say about college, somebody older, be like, if you see anybody talking about, like, their college years, like, they're in them, they're, like, complaining. This is so hard. It's like, dude, those are the best years. You're literally, like, everything is, like, paid for, even, I know, loans or whatever. But it's like you're living this. This pretend independent life. What is like, friends study. I did, like, marketing, advertising, but it's like you were living alone four years, like, friends reading, learning, you know, it is.

[B]

It is like the grass is always greener type thing. I think you. You want to be done with college, but those can be some of the most freeing years of your life because you're still in limbo a little bit. Unless maybe you're, like, getting a degree and you're having to do a lot of, like, O Chem.

[A]

Right, Right.

[B]

I think then you might go gray.

[A]

Right, Right.

[B]

But, you know, you party. I. A little like, theater parties, you know.

[A]

So did your school have, like, sororities and stuff like that?

[B]

We did, but I was not.

[A]

You were never in that.

[B]

That concept horrifying to me that you have to audition, which is crazy because that's literally my job is auditioning. But I'm just too anxious, you know, I kind of was like, it's a good way to make friends. I hear great things.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But you have to all gotta wear a white dress and.

[A]

Yeah. You're not. You're not a smart.

[B]

And then go and interview and then they can tell you no.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

After high school, that was. I couldn't even touch it. I was like, no. But I. I definitely, like, learned how to, like. I learned how to drink and swear in college. I was like, I didn't swear until I was 18 for no reason.

[A]

Your blunt household there wasn't swear.

[B]

My parents swear. I had this weird. My parents always had this good way of. They were not strict at all, but they just have this level of, like, losing their respect would be horrible. And so I was. Me and my sister were both like, My sister's really smart. She's the brains of the operation. And I was this sort of silly one, which is very well behaved.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

So then in college, less well behaved.

[A]

I want. I want, like, tips from your parents. So they weren't strict, but made you, like, just want to be the best version of yourself.

[B]

For them, it's like a fear of, like, disappointment.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

That's like. I think he. It doesn't work for everyone.

[A]

They were down with this dream when you were like, I wanna. This is what I want to study. I want to be an actress.

[B]

Yeah, they were. I mean, to a point, because, you know, I remember hearing Emma Stone convinced her parents to let her go to, like, pilot season back when that was a thing when she was 15, by making a PowerPoint. And I tried that and they were like, that's so cute. When you're 18, you can do whatever you want.

[A]

Oh, they made you wait.

[B]

Yeah, they were.

[A]

But you didn't do it really, at 18 or 20?

[B]

Well, when I went to college. When you went to college, I put my. My sister's. Now husband took like a headshot of me, put it on one of those websites.

[A]

Like what? Like a Backstage or something?

[B]

Like a LA casting, I think is what it was called at the time. I don't even know if that's the name anymore. And I think my first ever jobs were because I played soccer when I was a kid were like soccer print ads for the department stores. And it was a slow trickle, I mean, absolutely staircase for me for 10 years.

[A]

You were born into macula. Okay, where's that exactly?

[B]

It's like two. Okay.

[A]

Temecula. That's how you say it. Temecula.

[B]

Temecula. So San Diego's in the bottom of California.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Louisiana is like right here. It's here. So it's like two, two and a half hours from la. It's this very quaint. It's kind of cool now because there's like wine country. When I was a kid, it was the safest, most boring place ever. But now I actually love going back.

[A]

How far is the drive? If you're driving to like la, it.

[B]

Depends on traffic, of course. Like two hours probably.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

No, it's not bad. But LA felt very like a different.

[A]

World, a different universe.

[B]

Apart from maybe going to LAX a few times in my life, we were not. My parents were like, why would we go there?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I also think that's why they were super hesitant to allow me to do anything before I was. Was 18 years old. Because the business is, you know, no one in my family did anything like this. So it was the scary kind of thing that you hear stories about and. But now they're absolutely supportive. They gave me like the best advice when I decided this is what I'm going to do. My dad said, no backup plans. Don't get a good job. It's like if for. For your rent, you have to get a bad job, a job that you don't like that much, that pays you probably terribly. Because if you have any reason not to do it, you probably won't. Which I know is. You know, everyone has different circumstances. Not everyone has the luxury to like work a job that only covers rent. Right. Like, I'm fortunate and that's just me. I just have to focus on me.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I do think that was really helpful and strange parent advice.

[A]

Not have a backup plan.

[B]

No backup plan. Because I think it's so. It question this job questions your love for it a lot in the beginning, I think because it's so hard. I mean, not only is it just rejection by, like, omission, by not hearing anything, but sometimes people say things in casting rooms that really, you know, are tough, but I think you just have to celebrate every little, tiny, tiny thing. And if you realize you still love it, then just, like, don't ever stop.

[A]

I think it's so refreshing to hear you talk about that side of it, because it's so easy for people to see you or other actors blow up right on the Internet, and we're talking about a for you page everywhere and.

[B]

Be like, they found you on the street.

[A]

Yeah. And then it's like, no. You had to, like, go through so much to get here, and you might get rejection again. You might not. You know, I'm sure.

[B]

I'm sure I will.

[A]

And, like, it sounds buzzy. Like, reject. No, no. Imagine it. Sit in it. We've all dealt with it, but it's.

[B]

Certain times, things you, like, really, really want.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I remember there was a moment this is, like, kind of niche, you know, when you have this idea in your head, oh, if I just had the opportunity, I know I could get it. I know that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it's kind of safe to say, because you're probably never gonna get it.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I had some moments where I got those opportunities.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Where I was like, I know if I can just convince you to give me the chance. And then, like, nothing. That's something good to experience in life.

[A]

I think, where, like, you don't get the thing that you think that if you got the shot to get it, you would get.

[B]

Yeah. Like, it really is like, oh, no, I didn't. No. In fact, they were like, sorry, that was kind of bad.

[A]

How do you deal with that? Like, how do you process that and not want to, like, quit?

[B]

I think it just made me realize every element of this is a battle, and it's really just about getting out of your way and focusing on what you can control. Like, all you can control in this business is your craft.

[A]

I guess, like, doing your best.

[B]

Duke. I'm such a believer in classes. I think that there's no. You're never at a point where you're done learning. Definitely. I am not. And I think that's something you can focus on is, like, getting. Trying to get better, watching things, learning from your mistakes, learning from the failures, and being like, why did. Was this such a flop? Right. And that's, like, a good thing to kind of, like, set your mind to, because all the other. All the other stuff, like, sometimes it's just fate too.

[A]

Do you tell yourself to like what, what isn't meant for me?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I do kind of thing.

[B]

I think everyone has path. Sometimes it feels like, why the is this my path? But I've been very lucky. But I know it's like a really hard business and that's why I feel so, so lucky right now.

[A]

How are you taking in? How are you like not freaking out? We were talking a little bit about like not reading the comments but like this is happening right now and I know it's, it's big.

[B]

I, I, I can like feel that I could cry if I talk too long about it. I have so many friends in this business that I've come up with that we've experienced it all together. I feel so lucky. I don't even know. I feel like this wasn't supposed to work out. I wouldn't have done anything else. I would have just failed for a very long time. But I just, I'm like pinching myself every second. Like the fact that I'm here, the fact that this morning I did my first talk show ever and like 5 year old me didn't even dream of those things. Yeah, I just dreamt about maybe one day getting to be an edgy Bella swan type gal with some like blue sepia lighting. That was, you know, so I, I'm just trying to like live in it because you never know when bask they're gonna get over it. Right? They could just be like, I'm over it.

[A]

Your eyes are so pretty by the way.

[B]

You're your eyes coming from like ocean eyes over here.

[A]

Yeah, but like blue is like whatever you have really. Like, I feel like your eyes do a lot of your like acting too. You know what I mean? Like, it's all nice. So Lucas Gage told me I love him so much months ago when I was like, you're gonna be in this movie, like blah, blah. And he was like, mark my words, Emily Bader is the next Julia Roberts.

[B]

Oh, geez.

[A]

He said she is the Julia Roberts of our generation and she's just so good. But he recorded a question for you.

[B]

It's really putting on some expectations.

[A]

I mean but, but they were met because he said this to me before the the movie. Emily Bader, world superstar. I sound insane right now.

[B]

I think I got the flu at the premiere. Maybe gave everyone the premiere. Hope I didn't get you sick. But I'm so proud of you.

[A]

You're incredible.

[B]

I have a very important question for you.

[A]

Who is the best Kisser of your.

[B]

Co stars, Tom, me or Lucian? Oh, my God. He's putting me on the spot.

[A]

He asked who. Who's the best kisser? Him, Tom or Lucian?

[B]

I can't answer that.

[A]

You can't?

[B]

Okay, let me think, Let me think. Can I answer this in a way that's. I kissed Tom a lot more than.

[A]

Than Lucas.

[B]

So much more.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And Lucas, baby, you know, I want to say you.

[A]

She's taking the question very seriously. She's thinking about it. She's like the.

[B]

But I couldn't. You know, the problem is I couldn't.

[A]

Stop laughing with Lucas. I could see that.

[B]

It was the hardest scene I think I filmed on the entire movie. Because he was just saying stuff. Yeah, absolutely. It all made it in because he.

[A]

Whatever was so funny when he went memento.

[B]

He puts the accent on memento mori. I. And it was like 4 in the morning. Like, I was really unprofessional that day.

[A]

But you looked like you were having fun.

[B]

Okay, Tom. Let's say Tom.

[A]

Let's say Tom. What was harder?

[B]

You know, all of them are great.

[A]

What was the hardest harder to film? The. The. The dancing scene that I know you were. You spoke about, like, not loving. No. To dance or the kissing in the rain?

[B]

Kissing in the rain. One million percent. I was freezing.

[A]

Was it not real rain?

[B]

No.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because even if it's actually raining, I think it was raining outside.

[A]

They covered it. You need more.

[B]

I can't even see it. It has to be torrential downpour.

[A]

But it is kind of hot to, like. It really didn't make me want to, like, kiss in the rain.

[B]

Oh, yeah. It's so sexy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The hair being dripping, but unfortunately it was freezing cold.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And you have to not be shaking. And they're like, Emily and that one. We could really tell that you were cold. Can you try?

[A]

You're, like, getting hypothermia.

[B]

I have a video. I. I think I'm gonna post it soon of me in between shots in my gown, my silk gown. In the shower, in, like, the holding room, just standing under the hot water.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Just trying.

[A]

How were your nipples not piercing through? They were okay, but they were like.

[B]

If you look close enough, I'm sure you could see him. No, I don't even. I think we're very silhouetted, but breaking through the dress, truly.

[A]

Oh, my God. Like glass.

[B]

Like absolute glass shattering through the silk.

[A]

Such a hot scene.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

And the dancing scene, even though I. I read and saw that you were, you know, didn't feel like you were killing it. You did really good. And I have to say, another thing, going back to the hair. That blue wig on you, I take.

[B]

Full credit for that.

[A]

What? It was like. It was so, so good. I was like, does she need to dye her hair blue?

[B]

I mean, get a bob. I say I take full credit. But our. Of course, that's. That's not true. Our amazing hairstylist, Tony. I was talking to him. I was whispering. I was like, we have to do a wig. They haven't said that I can do a wig yet, but I'm gonna find a way to convince them that we're doing it. So just, like, can you get wigs? And he brought all these wigs in.

[A]

Wait, really? So this wasn't, like, in the.

[B]

Our costume designer. We did insane costume fittings for this, and she had this one sort of Pinterest picture. I don't even know. I think it might be, like, drawn of this, like, space cowgirl with a blue wig and a pink cowboy hat. And I was like, we have to do that in New Orleans. But they were like, it doesn't fit anywhere. How does she get a wig? I was like, guys, I'm the audience. I'm, like, the demographic.

[A]

You are.

[B]

Trust me.

[A]

Wait. That was a good call. Like, it just. It just made those scenes, like. Because also, it made your eyes pop more. So.

[B]

I wish I could dye my hair that color and have a bob. I'm not kidding.

[A]

You can see it, right? You could see that. It's like, it pops.

[B]

I think it kind of looks good on everyone.

[A]

You think?

[B]

Yeah, because people have been wearing them.

[A]

And you were in crazy heels in that scene, too. Yeah, but those are actually good because they're platforms.

[B]

I know. I saw someone. I saw. I am reading comments, as you could tell. I have seen some things where someone's like, it's so. It was so unrealistic how she was wearing platforms the full day. But those are the most comfortable shoes I think I wore the entire time.

[A]

Yeah, platforms are.

[B]

Because they're so thick under the thing. Like these, not so much. But the platforms. I was bouncing around, having a good time.

[A]

Were you surprised at Tom's dance moves?

[B]

Well, no, because I'd seen him dance before that. And also, he knows how to dance.

[A]

At Juilliard, they teach him those things.

[B]

He's got rhythm. The hips. They know how to.

[A]

I mean, not. I mean, that's. It's not a. You know.

[B]

Oh, it's not easy.

[A]

Every man can thrust those hips.

[B]

I think what Happened is our director had seen some, like, BTs of him during the Hunger Games press, where he's doing this, like, very funny dance that I have now seen a thousand times in my for you page. And from that inspired that that we need to have them dance.

[A]

Oh, and what about the Marisa Tomei accent? Where'd you. Where'd you.

[B]

It's definitely a little. Well, we were so. We always knew we might do an accent. That was something that I talked about with Brett because I love doing accents, and. But we hadn't decided on anything, and we were shooting a scene, and he's like, all right, pick one. We're gonna shoot. And that's gonna be your accent for the rest of this thing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I was like, oh, gosh, what do I do? Do I do, like, a funny Russian spy? Do I do. You know? And then we just kind of landed on sort of Staten Island.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Which is such a. It was a little. I was a little Marissa.

[A]

You were a little Marissa.

[B]

But you.

[A]

I mean, you're incredible at accents because you were in My Lady Jane, like, thank you. Before. Which is English. English accent. So good. And that show, first of all, has a cult following.

[B]

I know.

[A]

Like, the audience is so amazing, and you were a raunchy. If you want to see her get even wrong.

[B]

Oh, it's raunchier in the show, for sure.

[A]

Yeah. So, like, this was nothing for you.

[B]

Well, true. I feel like someone said this now, so I'm not gonna get in trouble. It's probably just gonna drive people more insane. But the scene we shot was much more involved.

[A]

What scene?

[B]

And people we meet on vacation. The one that ends up on screen.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Is slightly more wholesome. And I think the reasoning behind it is because you see them so young that they thought it feels weird for it to be, like, so raunchy.

[A]

Even though they're older.

[B]

Even though they're older.

[A]

Like, they thought the audiences wouldn't. Yeah.

[B]

Who knows? The decisions that go. It's also just like, the edit. Right. But when we were filming it, I was like, oh, this might be more than My Lady Jane.

[A]

Release the footage. I know.

[B]

I'm like, I shouldn't have said that.

[A]

It's the footage.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But did you get. Then were you like. Like, I got this, like, My Lady Jane prepared me.

[B]

I mean, it's so there. I feel like people always want you to say, like, it was so.

[A]

I know. Can you not say it's technical. We don't want to know.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Say that it was hot and steamy.

[B]

It's.

[A]

It was technical.

[B]

It's technical. This is the camera operator that you've been spending months with who's like, your dad at this point is right there, like, pointing a camera in your face. It's awkward. But you know what? I will say something that makes it less.

[A]

You could lose yourself in the moment.

[B]

You know, it's definitely. That's true. I. I think something that is fun about it, though, is it's very silly because it's so late at night and it's the most, like, what's the weirdest part of the job?

[A]

Right.

[B]

So it's like you get, like, slap happy, you know, when you're, like, past the point of exhaustion.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Where everyone's like. It feels like you're drunk, which makes it a lot easier to actually do it.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

It's like a little.

[A]

I would probably need to be drunk some.

[B]

I think sometimes that's maybe something that people do. But thankfully, I was just high on life. But, yeah, it's. It was a crazy experience.

[A]

No. The fan. I'm joining the rioting. I'm joining the protest. At me for the protest for the. I love you so much. I could talk to you for forever because I feel like there's so much more that we all want to know about you, our rising star or Julia Roberts ever generation. Thank you so much for coming. Thank you, Joy. I had so much fun talking.

[B]

Actually, like, really fun. I'm kind of sad it's over.

[A]

I'm sad it's over, too. Unless you've been living under a rock and you haven't watched People we Meet on vacation yet run and. And watch. It's number one on Netflix.

[B]

Thank you. Please, Please, for. For me. Watch it for me.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And. And. And just, you know, put it on mute and just leave it. Right. No.

[A]

Make your whole family watch it. Your husband. We talked about it. Number one on Netflix right now.

[B]

Thanks, guys.

[A]

Thank you guys so much for listening to this episode of Not Skinny but Not Fat. Follow me on Instagram at Not Skinny but Not Fat. Subscribe to the podcast so you don't miss any episodes. Rate the podcast that you love so much on Apple Podcasts and write a little review. If you tell me you did, I'll give you a big virtual smoocharoo. Thank you guys so much for listening and I'll see you next Tuesday.

[B]

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