Not Skinny But Not Fat
Episode: Joey Camasta: The Next Martha Stewart
Host: Amanda Hirsch
Guest: Joey Camasta
Date: December 16, 2025
Episode Overview
In this vibrant and candid episode, Amanda Hirsch welcomes Joey Camasta—a dynamic personality known for his humor, Barstool Sports-era podcasting, friendship with Snooki, and rising lifestyle influencer career. Embracing the title “The Next Martha Stewart,” Joey talks about everything from breaking into the reality/lifestyle space, embracing his authentic self, leaving Barstool, navigating influencer culture, to his love life, and pop culture hot takes. The mood is irreverent, hilarious, yet refreshingly honest, with plenty of juicy behind-the-scenes bits.
Key Discussion Points & Highlights
1. Amanda’s Reality TV Dinner & Event Recap
Timestamps: 00:34 – 04:28
- Amanda shares excitement about hosting a successful reality TV dinner via Meta's Threads, attended by reality stars like Wes and Kyle from Survivor, Dorinda, and Kyle Cooke.
- Quote [03:12 | Amanda]: “I’m trying to be generous…don’t cancel me. It was just such a good event!”
2. Introducing Joey: Career Evolution & The Barstool Exit
Timestamps: 04:54 – 14:42
- Joey reflects on being a guest among big industry names and finding his stride post-Barstool.
- Open about using weight-loss medications, body image, and thriving since leaving the competitive energy at Barstool.
- Quote [13:32 | Joey]: “I just wasn’t like, excited about… the content and just kind of the vibe there was kind of, like, not exciting. I feel like I did everything I was there that I could do.”
- On leaving Barstool to pursue his real passion: lifestyle, cooking, and home decor, inspired by Martha Stewart and Ina Garten.
- Quote [14:21 | Joey]: “Well, I want to be Martha Stewart. Or Ina Garten.”
3. The Ultra-Competitive Atmosphere at Barstool
Timestamps: 14:42 – 16:43
- Joey and Amanda discuss the unspoken competitiveness and anxiety within the Barstool ecosystem.
- Joey reflects on learning not to compare himself to others, citing advice from Chelsea Handler.
- Quote [16:44 | Joey]: “What you have, no one else has. There’s room for everyone.”
4. Snooki, Makeup, and Meeting Celebrities
Timestamps: 19:05 – 23:04
- Joey recalls his time as Snooki’s makeup artist, working on tour with Kanye West, and doing makeup for stars and fashion shows.
- Shares the story of meeting Snooki at a wild MAC Cosmetics event, instantly bonding over shots at 7am.
- Quote [22:28 | Joey]: “She was still like hungover, like drunk and hungover. So she asked if I take shots with her at 7am…so we started taking shots and sneaking drinks on set.”
5. Joey’s Upbringing & Early Glimpses of Fame
Timestamps: 28:33 – 30:42
- Growing up in Union, NJ, always wanting to be famous—putting on shows, taping “radio broadcasts,” enjoying the spotlight.
- Admits being drawn to being in front of the camera after years behind the scenes.
- Quote [29:02 | Joey]: “Yeah, always. I used to…pretend to have radio shows. Got a red light bulb from the shop right, put a lamp outside—meant I was recording.”
6. Life as a Professional Influencer & Social Circles
Timestamps: 43:26 – 46:27
- Joey now leans into “professional influencer” life, attending events, mingling with Bravo/Reality TV personalities.
- Shares the joy of being himself and hilarious observations about influencer events and invitations.
7. Boyfriend, Dating IRL, and Relationship Dynamics
Timestamps: 43:51 – 46:47
- Talks about his boyfriend Billy (together three years, 20-year age gap), meeting at an Irish pub, Joey making the first move with a cheeky compliment.
- Comments on the rarity of meeting partners in real life versus apps.
- Quote [45:31 | Joey]: “I said, you got a fat ass.”
- Affection for Billy’s support and creativity, reminding him always: “I’m the Beyoncé.”
8. Dogs, Children, and Future Plans
Timestamps: 61:11 – 63:53
- Joey is obsessed with his long-haired Chihuahua, Wiggles, and considers getting a sibling for him.
- On having kids: only if he can give them an Andy Cohen-level lifestyle.
- Quote [62:45 | Joey]: “I always said I would have kids if I’m as rich as Andy Cohen.”
9. Celebrity & Pop Culture Hot Takes
Timestamps: 66:45 – 79:53
- Joey and Amanda riff on Miley Cyrus’ engagement, why Miley deserves more love, and the Super Bowl needing a diva performer.
- “I hate it when men do [the Super Bowl halftime]. I think it’s a divas only arena.” (Joey, [67:36])
- They speculate on Taylor Swift’s (possibly Newport, RI) wedding and wedding dress.
- Joey's unapologetic opinions:
- Not a J.Lo fan (“I've heard she's a [bleep] to people in the industry.” [73:09])
- Not a Meghan Markle fan, somewhat “jealous” of her lifestyle brand concept. [76:33]
- Views on influencer performativity, criticizing fake charity for clout.
10. Iconic Humor and Relatable Moments
- On competitive influencer lines:
- “If getting recognized—a zealous celebrity—getting recognized or not, you feel even more like a loser. Like, oh, loser, you couldn’t get on the PR list.” (Joey, [39:54])
- Amanda and Joey banter about pampering, hosting Thanksgiving and setting trends with tablescapes, to which Kris Jenner and Macy’s “copied” him (“I must trendsetter haven for many years.” [59:33])
- On his open, campy personality and not ever having to “come out,” because his queerness was obvious and celebrated at home.
- “I was doing roller sets in my room at 12... the jig is up mama!” (Joey, [65:13])
- Joey’s funny take on disliking performative charity:
- “Anytime you keep doing something charitable and posting about it—it’s like…” ([48:43])
Notable Quotes & Moments (Selected with Timestamps)
- “What you have, no one else has.”
Joey quoting Chelsea Handler on originality ([16:44]). - Joey on leaving Barstool:
“It wasn’t like… I wasn’t feeling it anymore.” ([13:29]) - On meeting Snooki:
“She asked if I take shots with her at 7am…we started taking shots and sneaking drinks on set.” ([22:28]) - On the influencer grind:
“This is what I feel most comfortable doing – I’m being myself…” ([43:42]) - On celebrity: “No one else can be you.” ([16:43])
- On smoking in Paris:
“It’s not bad if you do it in Paris. In Paris, it’s considered good manners.” ([39:36]) - On imposter syndrome working as a makeup artist again:
“Like, I’m imposter. Like, hiding out…doing cameos on my lunch break.” ([32:42]) - On Joey’s memoir title:
“Joey, get out of the shot: Living in the shadow of Snooki’s poof.” ([29:50]) - Discussing pop culture:
“I hate when men do [the Super Bowl halftime]. I think it’s a divas only arena.” ([67:36]) - On the competitiveness within Barstool:
“Everyone is so terrified and competitive…under, like, but like, without saying it.” ([15:15])
Top Pop Culture Debates
- Miley Cyrus’ Engagement:
Amanda: “Miley Cyrus is engaged. This should be breaking news…we don’t know his last name. Miley doesn’t get enough love.” ([67:58]) - J.Lo & Meghan Markle:
Joey admits to not being a fan, with “insider” knowledge of J.Lo being rude and "jealousy" over Meghan's lifestyle brand. - Taylor Swift & Travis Kelce:
Jokes about their "no fighting," hypothesizing celebrities have less to argue about because of their lifestyles.
Joey’s Current Vibes & Manifestations
- Fully leaning into the “lifestyle influencer” role: cooking, hosting, tablescapes, holiday décor.
- Manifesting a Summer House role—believes the franchise should have a gay male cast member (“That’ll get me. Shame on you!” [42:07])
- “Soft girl”/coastal grandmother era; hosting at home, chic aesthetics, dating a creative, supportive partner.
Final Vibes
Amanda and Joey’s banter is lightning quick, packed with pop culture reference, realness, and camaraderie. Joey comes across as witty, self-aware, and ready for his Martha Stewart moment. If you want insider influencer life, unfiltered pop culture takes, and hilarious celebrity stories—you’ll love this episode.
Listen if you love:
- Behind-the-scenes reality/lifestyle influencer gossip
- Humor about the entertainment industry
- Candid conversations about self-worth and originality
- Irreverent, relatable stories with a sharp edge
Edited for clarity; Advertisements, intros, outros omitted.