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Welcome back to the Not Skinny But Not Fat podcast. I'm your host, Amanda Hirsch, and I still can't believe that I get to chat with some of my favorite stars on my very own podcast, where you'll feel like you're just talking shit with your best friends in your living room. Hi, everybody. Happy Tuesday and welcome. Welcome to a new episode of Not Skinny But Not Fat. I'm no longer gonna make fun of my name because somebody actually came up to me. I was doing a podcast last week, and this guy that was. He was a photographer that came with a guest was like, by the way, like, I listened to your last episode. It was so good. And you mentioned, like, your name, and I love your name. Like, I love your name. I relate to it, and it's like the best thing ever. And I was like, thank you. I don't know why I feel the need to, like, really be demeaning me to me, but I also love, like, a self humor moment, not take yourself too seriously moment and make fun of yourself. Like, self deprecating is my vibe. But it was nice. It was nice of him to say that, and that made me be like, okay, we got the point. You've said your point. You can shut the fuck up now. Anyway, I hope everyone had a good week. For me, it's been literally crazy. I feel like this summer flew by, was a little bit not summery. Like, the weather in New York was, like, on and off. Also. I didn't do anything crazy. I didn't do a lot of travel. I did some travel, like, before the summer, but not during. And then September starts and it's like back to school. Noah's in kindergarten. Work picks up. It's like, it's like a chicken with your. With its head cut off. I felt like this week, and boom, the week is over. It's a new week, new beginning September. It's not fall yet. I know we're ready for it. It's not fall yet. I can't remember what date fall is, but it's like the 21st, I think. But it's not fall yet. So don't be getting your pumpkin lattes yet. All right? Isn't it crazy that, like, there is that concept of, like, you're either a this girl or that girl, and usually I'm like, but it's like you're either a pumpkin spice latte girl or you are not. Okay. And you could kind of tell what kind of person is and what kind of person is Is. And I'm just saying. And I hope you know that I'm not. I hope you could tell that I'm not. Anyway, so I'm into September. I'm actually into, like, I for Jewish people. They know this, like, Rosh Hashanah is coming up. That's the Jewish New Year. I. I'm not very good at all the. All the. The meaning behind it and the exact how to, like, explain it to you. But there is something where sky opens and you can, like, ask for or, like, get into the book of life, not get into the book of life. It's like this period and then the sky closes and it's like, you're doomed. Whatever God decided now, people that are super Jewish are going to be like, I mean, what was that? Like, that was not explained well. But put that aside. Just keep it in mind when I'm saying the next thing. I couldn't fall asleep last night till like 12:30 because I was in, like, business mode slash thinking mode slash planning mode. I just feel like, yes, we're in my year of yes. Still. It's still 2025, but I feel like this new school year, slash Jewish New Year, I'm entering this. Like, okay, you've manifested, you've worked hard. Now it's time to amp it up to the next level and really put it all out there and stop trying to act, like, cool, like you're above certain. Just, like, get fucking into it and get into it deeply and. And with purpose. Anyway, on the other side of things, you guys, have you guys seen that the Rock is skinny? Because my trainer said it to me today, which I don't know if you saw that I can do. They are assisted, but lifts. Pretty crazy. Pretty crazy. That's what they mean when they say you can get stronger. Like, I always cared about, like, getting thinner, but you can get stronger and it feels damn good. So the Rock got skinny. And it's super weird because we're used to seeing him like, a massive. And he is no longer. And I heard that it's because he, like, it's for a role, but I also think it's for, like, his continuous career of, like, he's not in WWE anymore. He wants to do more than, like, the actiony stuff, you know, and be taken seriously as an actor. So he's a lean machine, you guys. We are all caught up on the summer I Turned Pretty. There was a lot of back and forth on the last episode. Was it filler? Was it not Was important to the storyline. I saw this reel that was like, why did I watch Stomach run around Paris for 25 minutes? The stomach literally took me out. I was cracking. We also know that the White Lotus Season 4 is gonna be in Paris, which is so funny. I have so many mixed feelings. Like, I love the White Lotus, then I'm like, a hater when it comes to let's not. Like, I feel like we blow it up so much. We put it on this pedestal. Everyone's obsessed with it. I know who's on it. I feel like Hollywood, the competition that's going on behind the scenes of, like, getting these roles is probably fudgeing insane. People think it can, like, make or break their careers, which it probably can. And then, like, it's good. But then people judge, is it good enough? Like, did we hype it up too much? And it's like, just calm down in general, and we'll be good. All right, so I'm excited for Paris. I'm excited to hear some, like, French and not in an Emily in Paris way. That does remind me that I met Kate Walsh when I went to the U.S. u.S. Open. I was in the Cadillac Suite. I love going in the US Open. I'm being honest. I think I would like it. Even not in a suite, though this week does make it better. And they also took me down to a courtside. Now it's fudgeing. Cool. I felt like I was there with Naomi Osaka. Like, I got into it. But the thing is, once you're in the suite and you're drinking margaritas and you're schmoozing, you're not watching the game. So, yeah, problems, problems, you guys. But when I was walking outside of the suites, I did see an Olsen twin, and I was by myself for a moment. I was like. And I looked like left and right, left and right. No one was near me. I was like, oh, my God. And then I was like, oh, my God. I was so excited to see an Olsen twin. I didn't clock which one it was, and I thought it was Ashley. But just today, it was confirmed on, like, Just Jared that it was Mary Kate. And I'm so mad at myself that I got the Olsen twin wrong. But she was wearing a pashmina scarf, which I feel like if she, the queen of the row says that it's back, then it's back. And I'm, like, excited, slash, like, sad. I threw them all out. But I do love it as a winter staple. Anyway, let's move on to this week's guest. You guys dancing with the Stars is coming back September 16th in a new season with so many contestants that we know and love. We have Dylan Efron that was on the pod by the way. I manifested him getting on Dancing with the Stars. I'm telling you guys, I am witchy as like things we need to talk about more. I'm witchy. Like I said to him, would you go on then? Dancing with the Stars. He was like, I would be so scared. I'm like, I see you there. And then he's like, oh, watch this gonna happen. It's like the scariest thing for me. Boom. Happened. You're welcome. Dylan Efron. We have two Mormon wives, Jen Affleck and Whitney. We have a bunch of other people that I can't remember right now. But most importantly, we have the host who used to be a pro, who used to be a judge and is just. You all know her and love her. It's Julianne Huff. She's an actor, she's a singer, she's a dancer, businesswoman and all around powerhouse. You know her from so many things like footloose, like safe haven. Get with it guys. And I've just been a fan slash follower of her for so many years. Which you will hear me say in the episode 17 times. Literally drink every time I tell her that because it's important to me for guests to know like that I, I'm in it with you. Like I've watched your whole journey. I know about every step you've made. What a stalker I am outside of your house. So it just is meaningful that she's on and it's like personal to me. So I make that known and I just feel find her life story so fascinating. She grew up mormon. She would like lived in London for like 10 years. She came back. She's open about her marriage and divorce. She's at a different stage in her life right now that she's also open about and she's just cool, you guys. And it's a very good episode, very interesting, very eye opening. So enjoy. Julianne Huff.
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Hi, Amanda.
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Which I call you Jules.
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You can call me Jules. Julianne Jaybird, Juicy and whatever. Whatever.
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Juicy Ann.
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Yeah, that's the one I like.
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Really? That's the one you like? What?
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Juicy and like Juicy and comes out when I've had like a juice cocktails. Yeah, I love.
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I need to see Juicy.
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And you know, you should think, you think she would be more fun. But it's actually me just like dancing alone by myself like against like a fireplace or something. And like, you just dancing.
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Oh, that's so pure. That's your, like, craziness. It's like she just dances.
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Yeah.
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Oh, she does that anyway, like, but without the juice. Juliana Huff is here. You guys host, actor, singer, dancer, businesswoman. What else am I missing? Anything?
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Dog mom.
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Dog mom.
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Dog Mom's mom. Just. Just sunny. Yeah. But I've had dogs previously.
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Yeah. And you take that title seriously?
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Oh, that's probably my most important title.
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Really?
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Yeah. Most significant.
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How old is the dog?
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She's two.
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Okay.
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She's my. Kidding.
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She's a cute, cute dog.
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Dog age. She's sweet.
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I've been a fan of yours for years. Like, I've been with the bob with the pixie. I've, like, know the haircuts.
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Like, that's how I know what I've done in my life is based off of the era of hair, by the way. It's true.
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Because we were just like, is there hair getting shorter and shorter? Yes, but no, because you did have the pixie phase.
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I did. I did. Eventually. Like, I have this thing on my list of things I want to do. I want to. Well, it started as one thing. Now it's expanded. Now it's expanded to, I want to go to Bhutan and shave my head with a monk. So it was just shave my head.
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But now that layer.
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Now there's, like, two added layers. Bhutan and a monk.
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Bhutan and a monk. Is this, like, your feasible dream list? Or you're like, maybe it won't happen.
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No. I literally called my hairstylist Rihanna, who's like, my not bad girl Riri, but.
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Oh, babe, I know. I followed you for years. Is it with a W?
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Yeah, Rihanna.
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Because I know by the handle. I, like, see.
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Exactly. And. And I literally called her. I was like, I think we need to make a wig that is my exact haircut right now. Because I think this is. This is my.
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This is it.
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I think this is the look.
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I love it.
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And I was like, we need to, like, replicate this as a wig so that I can just do that and then know that I'm good for work, you know?
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You've thought this out.
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It's weird. I've been wanting to do this my whole life.
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Weird. Also, your, like, relationship with your hair and with the styles. Like, it's meaningful to you.
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It's my, like, outward expression of whatever I go through internally. And I'm like, I've been through a very big excavation process recently, and I'm like, take it off.
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What's what? What's the excavation. What's happening?
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Excavation, just, you know, clearing out the things that like, are we going to get deep immediately?
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I mean, sure.
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Literally what I do, I love it. Yeah. Like the last like seven years have been just sort of like all the things I put into place of like, you know, the systems of protection of like who you think you should be, all of them have gone away. So I'm like, oh, the last thing, I just need to shave my head now.
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So this is happening sooner than we think, potentially. Wait, so what did we excavate?
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Well, it's, it's been a seven year process. So, you know, I'm making a joke of it, but. Marriage, right?
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That you thought you would be like, married and then that's like. Okay.
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Yeah, well, no, I was married.
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No, I know you were. I know you were. But you thought it would be this like fairy tale, like, or not even.
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Fairy tale, just like that was the thing that you do. And, and by the way, I was very much in love and that was wonderful. And then it was just, it was more. Yeah. Seasons of life that you go through and as you grow, do you grow together or do you grow apart? And just certain things that the. Should I. And this makes sense. And the things that, you know, we're taught. I think I lived into that and then I decided not to live into that.
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What did we let go of recently?
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My home of 11 years, I just moved. That was sort of like the last thing. It was like all the internal stuff, the relationships and then it was like the material things.
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Did you feel like some woo woo, like I have to leave this house behind to start anew?
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No, not really. No. I think a lot of people would have thought that, like, I'm done.
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Yeah.
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I was just like, no, I just feel complete. Like I've done everything that I can do in this house and I'm like, I'm ready to figure out.
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Did you move in a new area?
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I'm. I'm renting for the next six months just to finish Dancing with the Stars, go for the holidays and then I.
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Have some plans, like out of LA plan. Maybe, Maybe.
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We'll see. Maybe I'm moving to Bhutan. Who knows?
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You haven't decided yet?
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I haven't. Really? Yeah.
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So it's like open.
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Yeah. There. There might be like a little like discovery exploration thing that I'm gonna do and, and like go and like test some things out. I mean, might as well, if I can.
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Might as well if you can. You've also been. You spoke about your Ex. Before that you were married. You've been more open than a lot of celebrities about this situation, I feel like, because a lot of times we hear people get divorced or break up, and there's never any common. I feel like you have spoken about it in a way that, like, resonated with people, probably because I don't know.
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How to keep my mouth.
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I don't remember what you said exactly, but it was like you were trying to figure out kind of, like, who you were within. Within the marriage.
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And totally, I think we. Again, that's kind of what I was saying about growth. It's like, there was so much love. There was so much safety. My ex husband was one of the most secure, consistent people that I ever had in my life growing up. And so when I met him, it was like, whoa, this feels so amazing. And he was such a safe place to, like, activate my own healing and growth. And so as that was happening, we just evolved into different people. And I don't think we had the maturity to kind of figure out how to come together at the time. But he's really happy, and he has.
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A day of fun. Did you have a lake day with him and his fiance?
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Yeah. And their baby to be born in, like, two months.
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Was this a. Yeah.
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I mean, I was already in Idaho, and, like, that's where my family grew up. So, like, that lake has always been my special place. And so.
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Did he steal your special place?
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I mean, you know, I have no hard feelings, but. Yes. But, yeah. He literally stayed in the house that we bought together.
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No, wait. He was introduced to kind of this. This area because of you.
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Yeah. Coeur d'. Alene. My dad grew up on that lake. Oh, wow. Yeah. So anyway, you're sharing. You're.
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Sharing is caring.
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Sharing is caring. But it was actually my first time going back in quite a few years, and, like, since we got divorced. And it was a. It was a really great, like, reclaiming of, like, this is my home, too, and this is actually where it all began for me. And life is good, and I'm happy for them. And I was also just, like, happy to be on the water and nostalgic with my grandparents, like, where they built this whole legacy of our family and.
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And him.
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Yeah.
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And his new life.
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Yeah, that's.
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That's so mature of you guys.
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It was. It was mature. And then I had to, like, realize and step back after the fact and be like, who. Who was I trying to prove that to? Was I trying to prove to myself that I was mature and I was over it.
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Yeah.
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Or like, did I really want to do it? And I was like, no, I actually really wanted to see them. And. And I am happy for him, like, at the end of the day, like, his happiness and, you know, even my happiness, that's the most important thing. So however that looks.
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Yeah, that's so interesting.
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I'm not, like, one of those people, too, that it's, like, positive.
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You're not.
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I used to be, for sure. But, like, actually, everything was great.
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Okay. Great.
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Yeah.
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But you're not this pot, are you, where you give off positive. Really positive.
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100%. And, like, that is my default, for sure. But I. Yeah, there's. There's a lot of, you know, nuanced layers.
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Yeah.
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I haven't really shown.
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And you want to show that.
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Oh, my God, I crave deep intimacy so bad. And, like, what I realized is I'm like, I've literally been a performer my whole life, and. And I know how to perform, you know, even if I don't know I'm performing right. And. Yeah. And I'm that person that just wants everybody comfortable so I can naturally just go into that zone. Whereas, like. No, no. I'm like, I want to show everybody my messy shit.
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When or how are we going to.
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See it and be accepted for it? You know?
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They're going to be a reality show in Bhutan. Like, how are we getting this side?
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I don't know. When are we doing it together?
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Because I'll tell you why. Now that you said that, I was wondering. Because you're saying you've been a performer your whole life. And of course, like, not every dance, but a lot of dances, you smile and a lot of dances, you're, like, sultry. And so are people that at least you meet maybe that are new to your life. Ever surprised to, like, meet the real you behind all that?
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That's probably the first thing that they say. They're. They, like. They say, oh, you're so much deeper than I thought you were. Or, oh, you're so much cooler than I thought you were. I'm like, thanks.
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Yeah.
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But I see I still don't stop laughing. Or, like, joy is my default, so I can't help that. But, like, in. In, like, the cheesy kind of way, it's still a part of who I am, but there are so much, so many more layers. But I think that that's. Again, I usually have told my story in a. Like, I want to be understood, so I tell a lot of, like, my history, and I'm Like, I actually am done with that part. I don't need people to know the context. I'm like, I kind of just want to start from now.
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What history do you feel like you're repeating? A lot.
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Like where I came from. From Utah, the Mormon family, and then moving to London.
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Yeah.
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You know, just awesome. All that stuff and interviews done. Concluded.
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Yeah.
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But I think that. But I think that what I'm. Yeah. Like, more excited about in this season of life is I actually am more curious to see where I go than where I came from.
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That's so interesting because I feel like with therapy too. Have you done therapy?
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Yeah.
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And it's like a lot of times and people that are hesitant to go probably understand this. Like, you go and they go back.
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Yeah.
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And you're like, over my parents divorce. Like, I'm over it. Like, let's not. So I get what you're saying. It's like, yes, I went through that, but I've talked about it, I've dealt with it, I've processed it. And now you have, like, new things to.
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Yeah, well. And I think that, like, those things will literally pop up my entire life and, like, patterns and certain things. Like my mom just shared something with me the other day. I was like. And that just triggered my nine year old self. Wow. But, like. But I think what's refreshing about it now is like, I don't know, I'm a body person too. So I'm like, if I can move through it somatically and like, literally, like transform the energy within my body, then I'm like, cool. I have the awareness of it. And then this is like my new theme. I'm like, oh, if this is popping up, it means thank you. You think that I am like at the level to level up. So thank you for the word.
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You're in a video game.
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Yeah.
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You're in. You're leveling.
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Yeah, I'm literally in a video game.
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Julianne.
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Yeah.
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Do you know what this brought back when you said you're moving through with your body? We're gonna have to bring up this video. I know, but I.
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The exorcism.
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But like, by the way, the.
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Or the orgasm.
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The everything.
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Wait, I think they said butthole, not butthole.
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And I again told you I've been a fan for years, so I wasn't seeing this as like a viral thing. It's like I always followed you and I was like, what is going on?
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Yes. What did you think was happening?
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I don't know. I definitely didn't Think you were being possessed or. Or an exorcism out of your butt was happening?
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Yeah.
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Or that you. I. I don't. The orgasm part. I could have been convinced.
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Did you think I was faking? Like, what is it?
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What is she doing?
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No, you were just like, what is this?
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No, what is this?
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Okay. So we're either internal or external people, and we process things different. So I'm a super external person. And so the body, I don't know if you've heard of the body keeps the score. Like, the body holds all the information, no matter what. It's in the fascia, it's in the tissues. It's in, you know, our muscles, whatever it is. And so this specific therapy, I mean, people can have an adjustment, and all of a sudden, like. Like, if you look at dogs or animals, when they go through something, they shake it off. Right. But they do that immediately. Humans don't do that. So they just hold all that information. They get tighter and tighter and tighter. And then sometimes when they get into a state or. Or a relaxation or their actual nervous system calms down, then all of a sudden, the body will naturally reorganize itself. So as psychopants as it looks, because, trust me, the first time I saw it, I was like, did you know.
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You were being filmed?
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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But it was really interesting because I was on tour with Oprah. We were launching Kinergy, which Kinergy is not that. Yeah, it was a dance movement modality. And. But it comes from the same, like, philosophy of, like, the more you move the body, the more energy can, like, move naturally through the body. Okay, so. But this is a specific therapy. It's really chiropractors, but using the energetic field of the body. If you look at it in the world of, like, physics and science, it's. It's energy. And so everything is that's around us is energy. But the more dense it is, the more it's, like, matter. And so the more dense we're holding, the more, like, solid we are. But when we actually, like, realize that we're actually made up of mainly energy and not, like, matter, the energy can start moving.
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Did you. You didn't have to do this. You were promoting your own thing.
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I wasn't even promoting. No, this is why it's so weird.
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No, I'm saying you're probably Kinergy. No, you were debuting it. What was happening?
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I. I was invited to come.
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Yeah.
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Through the female quotient. And I think because it was kind of at the beginning of people discovering more and being More curious that there was like a way to bridge the worlds of spirituality and science and. Or woo woo and science, however you want to look at it. And I had been doing this work for almost 10 years. And so I introduced John Amaral, who's amazing, and he ended up doing a goop series with Gwyneth. And part of the thing is too, is like, sound is everything. So when you make sound and vibrate sound. Have you ever seen the thing on YouTube where like there's a speaker and like there's different frequencies and like sound that's radiated and then there's like salt on it?
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No, I didn't.
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And if they change the frequency, it literally changes patterns.
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Oh, no.
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So that's basically what's happening in the body.
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Did you feel what was happening to your body?
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Absolutely.
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Oh, so you knew what was happening?
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Oh, yeah, absolutely. Like, you're not like hypnotized, you're not on drugs.
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Were you ever like, fuck, there are a lot of people watching. They might have cameras, they might get out.
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Well, okay, you had to lean in.
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If you were able to do that. Like, I feel like you were you disconnected, all that.
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So, yeah, like, I think that's part of like the, the thing when you connect and you can relax and let go and surrender. You're like, like, yeah, this is normal. Yeah, absolutely. Not to the naked eye.
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So what happened to you when you saw the. That it was going viral?
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Okay, this is a very good question. Thank you for asking.
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You're welcome.
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And I, I will say, I like to say I've had like two, for lack of better terms, spiritual awakenings. The first one was like, in 2017, and I started going through this exploration and discovery and shedding and I didn't have the maturity to not be like, I literally don't care what people think. Instead, I got really self conscious. It was also during the time that everything was unraveling in my life. So I also felt like I was losing everything. The thing that activated me to step more into my authenticity, I felt like I was being met with, she's crazy and she's messed up and what she's doing is wrong and like she's blown up her whole life and all those things. So I associated me being me and my authenticity as being wrong and not good enough and I've hurt people. And so immediately I was like, shut down. And so for the last few years, I was pretty shut down. I was like a little bit more in my death hole, pit of shit era, which I like to call Death hole.
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Pit of shit. Yeah, that's an intense one. No, it could be just a death hole.
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No, just a pit.
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But it's also full of shit.
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Full of shit.
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Oh, damn.
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And you're just sitting in it.
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We'll be right back after the break. Like I said earlier, we are back to school, people. It is September. Get with it. And, yes, that means new schedules, long lists of to dos, alarm clocks, getting everybody ready, steady. Bedtime is more important than ever. It really all is. Lunches are packed. We have so much on our plate. Wellness is still on that list, and we got to make time for it. We got to make room for it, and we got to prioritize it. And Ali is here for you with that, okay? It's the number one kids supplement brand, and it offers effortless solutions for you and your fam. You got a Kids multi plus probiotic. It's tasty, and it's an essential that kids love. You got kids sleep, which is a gentle support to help them rest. You got multivitamins for the parents that provides key nutrients for your immune system and more. Got to get that immune system in check. And if parents need some help shutting it down at night because your mind is racing thousands of miles a minute, they got sleep gummies. Ali has sleep gummies to help you rest peacefully. So let Ali support you and your crew this season. Shop@ali.com or retailers nationwide. These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, prevent any disease. No, you guys, the fact that Lenny is busting out of, like, his clothes. I just took him to the doctor the other day, and he's like, 98th percentile, 88th percentile. Like, I'm like, you're so big, it makes me sad. And that means that I have to, like, order more stuff for him. And one of my favorite brands to buy for him is Magnetic Me. And I fell in love with Magnetic Me when he was born because all of a sudden I was, like, getting stuff out of the bins or things that Noah wore or even new stuff. And I was like, snaps? Excuse me, are we in the 1800s? And then it was even zippers that were complicated, that you had to zip to the top to get, like, the leg out and two zippers and what is going on? And then I was introduced to Magnetic Me. They make clothing that has magnets, okay, instead of the zippers, instead of the snaps. And it makes changing so easy, especially if your baby's waking up at night. And you have to change them like it is literally a breeze. All the clothes use magnetic closures. There's no zippers, no buttons needed. Okay. It's really great. By the way, cutest designs, softest fabrics. Also, you can twin your baby, your toddler, like they can twin together. I have pajamas from them as well. Really? For moms that are nursing. It is amazing. It is soft, it's comfy. I could wear it all day. Do what I did in order Magnetic Me today to make changing time easier for you and your little one. And these make a great gift for family or friends with babies too. New customers can get 15% off your order when you go to Magnetic Mecom. Don't wait. Order today@mirical me.com this episode is brought to you by IQ Bar, my exclusive snack and hydration sponsor. IQ Bar is the better for you. Plant protein based snack made with brain boosting nutrients to refuel, nourish and satisfy hunger without the sugar crush. If you're like me and you hit this afternoon slump where your brain feels so foggy and you need something sweet, IQ Bar is the perfect fix. You guys know this about me. I'm a bar girly and I'm always looking for good for you. Bars that have great nutrients and great ingredients. And these bars, IQ Bar, they're plant based protein bars. So they're designed for your body and your brain. They have clean ingredients, 12 grams of protein that is plant protein and only 1 gram of sugar. I've been loving the peanut butter chip and also they have a banana nut flavor so freaking good and it keeps you full and sharp. They also make hydration sticks which you need some electrolytes in your day. They also have brain boosting nutrients in there. I throw one in my water bottle and it also gives me just like the reset that I need right now. IQ Bar is offering my special Little Cutie podcast listeners 20 off all IQ Bar products including the sampler pack plus free shipping. To get your 20 off, text not skinny to 64, 000 again. That's not skinny to 64, 000 again. You're texting. Okay. Not skinny to 64, 000. Message and data rates may apply. See terms for details. Welcome to Barely Filtered, hosted by me, Aurora Culpo. Where my mess is my message and I'm here to share it all with you. Let's optimize our lives together and I'll make the mistakes so you don't have.
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Did you ever watch Made.
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B
Made the show.
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The show.
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B
Yes. It was so good.
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So good. Do you remember when she's in the trailer and she's on the couch, it's like episode four or five and she's just starts sinking into the couch.
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B
Yes. That's creepy as.
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A
And there's that whole. That pit she's in. Yeah, I was like, that is.
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Oh my God.
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The death hole pit of.
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Oh my God, Julianne.
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Super depressed.
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Horrible.
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Oh, no, see, I still smile when I say it, but so it's horrible. This is what I do with my hands.
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It's horrible. Horrible. By the way, I watched that show and thank you for amazing show by the way. Like, truly watch it, Margaret. Quality. But that scene too, because I remember it had those, the. The. Those images and the sinking into the couch. But it actually, you guys showed us, like, the couch almost swallowing.
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Swallowing her out. And like she was watching and then like, you know, her husband's there and that's what depression feels like. Or like you can't get out.
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Yeah.
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So anyway, so that was the image that I was experiencing. And then I was just like, I'm either gonna like, let my life completely pass me by and care what other people think and disconnect to what I really felt when I first started opening up and this really amazing connection of just authenticity and connection and. And like, just belief in what was possible. And I was filled with so much joy and gratitude that like, my ability to create was like on fire. And. And then everything just felt so stuck after that. And I was like, I'm just gonna either continue on this path and by the way, from the outside, everything looks great because I'm a great performer.
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B
Yeah.
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I know how to do it. I know how to turn it on subconsciously. And then eventually I was just like, well, I can either just do this and be isolated in my, like, fear of what everybody else is gonna think, or I can have an exorcism out of my butthole and, like, know that, like, I don't care, you know?
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So at that point, were you faking it till you are making it in terms of like, the not caring or did you actually not care at that point?
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No, this is, like, recent. This is like.
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Oh, the not caring is recent.
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Yeah. This is, like, in the last year.
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Okay, good. So. So when you saw the viral thing, you were still in the caring.
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I didn't even know I was in the caring at that point.
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B
Okay.
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I was, like, shocked. And then, like, it was just. It was almost like stacking, Compounding.
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Yeah.
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It was like, just one thing after the other after the other.
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Did you have any. Like, were you mad at yourself? Were you hard on yourself? Like, ugh. Why'd you have to do that right now? Like, then you wouldn't have to deal with people, like, just talking so negatively.
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So I. I never regretted, like, doing it because I. I really wanted to.
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And you need. And you needed it.
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And not just for I. I believe in it. And, like, I know what it's done, not just for me, but for hundreds of thousands of people. And so I never regret.
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I would do it. It's.
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Yeah.
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Not filmed, though, But I would do it. But I would fucking do it. Did you make a statement at that time? Did you say anything on Instagram?
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No, you didn't? Because I was taught. Not by my publicist, who I have today, but I was taught, like, don't say anything.
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Right.
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Don't put fuel on the fire.
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B
Yeah. Like the Kardashian. Like.
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A
Yeah.
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You don't address something, it goes away.
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Which sometimes is good. But also, like, sometimes you're like, am I just told to not say or speak up for myself?
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Yeah.
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Yeah. But again, I. It was less about me. It was more about what I felt like it did.
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I get what you were saying, but.
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By the way, it didn't taint him. He, like, he was. He went on to do people want.
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Orgasms out of their bug eyes? What do you think? Lining up.
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I know.
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Exorcisms, like, whatever.
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So he went on to, you know, do Gwyneth Goop episodes. People were obsessed.
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Yeah.
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His phone was going off the charts. He actually. Not that I'm here to promote Don, but I love him so much that I will. He's literally just designed an online course so people can actually teach themselves how to do it.
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Oh, wow.
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So it's not about some guru doing something to you. You can do that and activate it.
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Oh, wow. Okay. Well, thank you for taking me through that. Yes. Because it's stuck with me for years.
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I'm so happy.
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B
Yeah. I even know what you were fucking wearing because. And I didn't actually watch for this interview. Because you were in, like, slacks.
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I was literally. No, I was in leather slacks with a belt black shirt, and it's like.
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Who you look like?
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Chiropractor table.
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You were, like. You were, like, dressed for a day of work.
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I was dressed for the World economic forum in 2020, before the World fell apart.
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You're on theme. How did you get off that couch that we were talking? Did you. What kind of help did you get?
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Or. It was. It was like, a slow process. The first thing I did, I actually moved to New York a little bit. Yeah. I was like, I think I need a change of scenery, because there's a lot of stuff in this space that I. I wasn't running away. Like, I'd already sat in it for two years, and I was like, I think I just need some new energy. And I came to New York and I did a Broadway show, and I was like, this is.
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Was it Chicago?
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No.
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B
Have you done Chicago?
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No, but.
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What. Excuse me, everybody. Where are you?
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I know. I love Chicago. I said I would do it if, like, Ariana DeBose, myself, and, like, Hugh Jackman did it.
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Oh, she has.
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That would be sick.
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Okay.
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Yeah, there's.
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You're not just doing it. You need.
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I want to. I want to do it.
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You want to do it good?
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Yeah.
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You want to do it good?
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Yeah.
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You have to be Roxy Hart. Are you kidding me?
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It would be very fun.
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You could actually be the other one, too.
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Velma, right? Yeah. Well, that's the internal side of me, right?
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Yeah. She could be both. Julianne, first time ever, plays both characters.
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Leave it to me. But, yeah, so I moved to New York. I got a change of scenery. Like, one of my best friends who's here, he's, like, the mayor of New York. I swear, he's like, the most loving, social human. And I just. I gained my confidence back a little bit, and I just was like, oh, I'm in a. I'm in a city where, like, my identity of dancer or I just got divorced. Like, that thing that was just kind of, like, not haunting, but it was just, like, my identity. I was like, I just want to try something new. And. And I came here, and it was amazing. And then. Yeah. And so that was, like, the first thing that just gave me a little bit of. I'm a motion person. I'm a body person. So, like, movement is super important for me. And the minute I feel like I move my body or movement into another environment, I have, like, just a new perspective on something.
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Yeah.
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And I'm A student again.
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You know, people sometimes say, I think I recently talked to somebody about this or thought about it, but that, you know, it's like running away from your problems or like, like a change of, you know, environment doesn't change your circumstance. But sometimes it does. Like I was just thinking about that recently. I'm like sometimes maybe I was talking to somebody single that I was like move honestly.
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Yeah.
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Like sometimes you'll meet somebody somewhere else, you know, and it's not always the like. No, you have to like make it where you're at. Yeah. Like sometimes actually moving around does help. So we're not going to go into the history of the Mormon upbringing.
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No, no.
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But you know, it is interesting because I like I said for the 17th time, followed here for years and I've never like clocked that you're Mormon thought.
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A
About it like until the secret lives. Until wives.
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Until the secret. Yeah. And Salt Lake. And I feel like a lot of attention that that is put on, on YouTube. How does that feel to, to, to. To have your home states get so much recognition?
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I don't really feel connected to it because I left home at 9 and, and so I comparative to like my siblings. I wasn't really raised in it as much as they were. And then when I moved back I obviously went to high school and you were like the weird kid if you didn't go to seminary and like be in church and stuff. And so of course like my deepest wound is belonging. I'm like, I just want to belong. And so I, of course I'm like, I want to like be included. And so I would go to the school D. And I was engaged to a Mormon boy when I was 19 and like, and, and then it was sort of like I wanted to come to LA and I had $2,000 and I was like, okay, I really love this person and it's great, let's see if we can make this work. But I, but like I, I want to go do this and. And so I did. And he ended up marrying my best friend since I was 6 years old. And they have four beautiful kids and.
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And you're going to the lake with them too.
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And they're a great match. Yeah, everybody's going to the lake. Like we're just all one big literally Mormon family.
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Wait, so when did the move to. To London with Mark Ballas's family and your brother? Like how.
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I was 10.
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You were 10?
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I was 10.
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How do you get. It wasn't like a shipped off situation? No. So what was It.
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So we had, like, an amazing dance studio in Utah, which, by the way, Dancing with the Stars has almost. Like 90% of the kids from that studio are now on the show. Like, it's weird that.
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B
What is the relationship there? How did Dancing with the Stars in Utah and the sand studio get.
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Ballroom dancing is just really massive in Utah, really. Because of BYU and, like, that they have a ballroom team there. And so, like, that was the studio that my brother and I went to, and our dance coaches, which are Mark Ballas's parents, they saw us at the studio, and then while our parents were getting divorced, they were like, oh, why don't you come over here for. Well, it's supposed to be three months, and then it turned into five years for me and almost 10 years for my brother.
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Wow.
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A
So. So it was like this studio, and even just Utah in general had, like, really focuses on the arts. I mean, I. I don't mean to make this a joke, but I'll make it a joke. It's like, there's so many kids. They have to put them in activities to keep them busy and, like, rigorous ones. Yeah. And also, like, they're. They're not drinking. That's, like, part of the culture. So it's like they're in activities constantly.
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So from 10 till 20, you lived, oh, five years for you, 10 years for Derek. So they're in activities to. Because so many kids. But you were actually good. Like, you have to be born with some sort of.
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A
Yeah.
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Like something in your body to be good at it.
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Yeah. I mean, my three older sisters, they all danced and sang and acted, and we were in, like, a band. Like, we were just. We were always in it. And, like, my. My grandparents meant that met dancing. My parents met dancing. Wow.
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It's in the flood.
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It was just kind of like in the blood.
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But you and Derek. Wait, so what's happening with the other siblings that aren't huge dancing stars?
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A
They. They had different paths.
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B
Yeah.
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Yeah. My. Like, my oldest sister, she. She started in the Mormon way, so she got married at 19 and had six kids. And. And then my second sister moved to Nashville to be a country star, and my third sister wanted to be an actress.
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B
So everyone wanted to be in the arts. Is there any jealousy over.
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We've had this conversation many times, so I always am aware, like, what am I saying again? Is this helpful or is this hurtful for whoever might listen, We've had this conversation. There's no jealousy. But there is a sadness that maybe there wasn't an opportunity for Them to. To experience it.
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Yeah, I see what you're saying.
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A
Yeah. They're so happy.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So, so, so happy. And. And look, they have great lives and they love their life, but, you know.
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B
It'S a what if when you're.
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A
When you're a performer, and we did. We had an opportunity that they didn't have.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And it's hard.
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B
Do you ever feel, like, bad or self conscious about sharing really exciting moments?
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A
I used to.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Yeah. I. I mean, and that was one of my biggest things was Derek and I were always so close because we had shared experiences.
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B
Right.
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Whereas, like, we never wanted to share because we didn't. We were afraid to hurt someone's feelings. But that just grew us, you know, further and further apart.
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B
Right.
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A
Because we weren't sharing, they didn't feel included. So over the last few years, it's been very much like, all right, if it hurts, it hurts.
- [42:17]
B
But at least, like, we're close.
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A
We're close and we're. We're moving through it versus.
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B
And it's like human nature too. Like, yeah, people are going to have feelings, you know, and they can be happy for you, but at the same time feel like, oh, and it's all.
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Relative, you know, like, yeah, they were super close as sisters growing up. And so, like, I didn't get to have the closeness of sisters and that bond or, you know, they have. They have marriages and kids, and I. I don't have that experience. And so when I look at my third sister, for instance, she has three beautiful daughters and like, she has all these activities and she plans all these things, and I'm like, in awe of her. And I'm just like, you are such a good present mom. And I'm like, I admire that so much. And I have not a lack, but like, I'm like, I want that, you know, and she's like, and I want that. You know, we all. And it's not one is better or you know, than the other, but it's like, we all have things that we desire.
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A
Yeah.
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B
What can you tell me about why one would need to do it three times?
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A
So actually, when I was on Dancing with the Stars, it was my fourth season, I was dancing with Cody Lindley and on stage during a performance, I had a cyst burst.
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B
Oh, yeah.
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A
And had to go to the ER and they found out I had endometriosis. And so when they did my first surgery, they were like, oh, your right ovary is small and it doesn't produce eggs. So like, I wish they would have told me to freeze my eggs then because I was 19 years old.
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B
But I wasn't popular then.
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A
Probably it wasn't at all. And so anyway, once I got married, I was like, oh, we should do this just right now, just because we don't know what the future holds and be safe. Who knows what it will be like to get pregnant, et cetera. So we did the first round and then I'm like, well, how much do I want to share everything? So we did that. And then after we got divorced, I was like, I should probably do this again. And so I did it again last year.
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B
And then why do you need it again? Like, aren't the eggs there?
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A
Yes.
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B
Or you want more, but the probability.
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A
When you, like when you get older and then the quality of Egg, it changes. And so for me, I wanted to just then once especially like if you don't make an embryo right away.
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B
You mean the ones that are sitting can like, like their quality can lessen?
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A
Yeah. Like when they defrost, they can, you know, they can also not stay. Or how many times you try to get like it to be fertilized might not work and. Yeah, so like the more you have, the better.
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B
Okay, so you did it a second time after the divorce.
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A
So I did it the second time. And, and it was good. But you know, like, because I only produce from one side, I got, I get like half of what, what people would normally get or that's what I thought at least.
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B
Okay.
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A
But I will say from the first time I did it to this third time, that I did it and the emotional and you know, trauma healing and all the things that I worked through because as women we hold so much in our like womb area. That's where our trauma holds our emotions, everything. I got like three my first time. I got 21, my third one. Yeah, yeah, so. And my second was 10.
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B
And you said the first one you did at what age?
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A
I was like 29.
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B
And now it's almost 10 years later.
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A
I was 36.
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B
Damn.
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A
Yeah.
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B
How do they explain that, these doctors, these so called doctors, how do they explain it?
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A
I mean, I think it's, I, I think it's taking care of yourself and also like. Yeah, I don't know. I, I mean again, I can go into all the woo of it all, but like, like when you're tight and you're holding and you're holding like a lot of stuff from your.
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B
Well, it's kind of like when people don't get pregnant, they go the surrogacy route. They go all these routes and then once they're kind of like relaxed, I'm.
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A
Not gonna, or yeah, putting, taking the pressure off or feeling like, you know what, it's not gonna happen for me. And then they move forward.
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B
Right.
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A
Without thinking about it. Sometimes it happens.
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B
So you're in the process now. Are you still in the. I saw you're giving yourself the shots and everything.
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A
I'm done now. Yeah.
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B
Oh, you're done now?
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A
I'm like, I feel like I'm pretty good now. Okay. And, and by the way, like, I, I would still love to get pregnant naturally if I can.
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B
Yeah. But this is just like a safety thing. So does that mean that the first and second batches are you.
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A
They're all frozen and they're.
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B
So you're keeping them.
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A
Yeah.
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B
But if you had to use. How do you know which batch you're gonna pull from?
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A
I think you know that they're all.
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B
They check them off.
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A
Yeah, yeah.
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B
There'S like.
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A
But also they'll check and see which one's, you know, more viable or healthy.
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B
Yeah. Okay, back to Dancing with the Stars, you guys, because it is premiering September 16th.
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A
Correct?
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B
Yes. We're almost there. We're almost there. What season of hosting is this for you?
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A
This is my third.
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B
Third hosting. Do you love it?
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A
I love it so much.
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B
You do?
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A
It's like being a dancer, it's like the hardest thing ever. It's seven days a week. You are training them, you're teaching them, you're. You're, you know, therapizing them. You're coming up with the choreography. It is non stop. And I'm just like, exhale. Thank God I don't have to do that.
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B
Yeah, you are.
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A
I have so much respect for our dancers. They're just incredible.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Judging was amazing, but I always felt like we weren't allowed to talk to the contestants.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Because it was judging.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And now that I'm hosting, I'm like, oh, I feel like mama energy. I get to, like, be there. And like, like, I love watching other people shine. And so. And also because I've been in every single role.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And like, I'm not here to, like, give you advice unless you want it.
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B
Yeah.
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A
But, like, I've been in both shoes, so what do you want to know? And, yeah, I can share whatever I see. And also, like, from an objective point of view, because I'm just watching as a fan now. I don't have a job to do.
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B
Right.
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A
I can be really honest.
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B
But are you secretly judging?
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A
Always. Okay. I'm literally like, you know, are you, like, pointing things out? Weirdly? I'm not, like, judging them based off of scores, but I'm, I'm like picking out the things that I'm like, oh, I would love to be able to share that with them.
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B
Yeah. No, I saw some of your. I saw this one clip where it was like, I think Ariana Maddox. And you pointed out, like, the wrong shoes.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Or something. People. Because there's fandoms, you know, you can't point out. I'm sure you got roasted for that one, but roasted because you notice this everything because you were there. So you're like, these are the shoes. This is the look. But okay, so you love being in this role.
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A
Yeah.
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B
But is there ever like a, like, Yearning for the stage.
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A
I mean, I got to do it last year. I. I got to, like, whip off my dress. Rip off. Yeah, rip off my dress.
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B
That was, by the way, that moment that I just saw, like, the other day made me want to start watching the show again.
- [55:42]
A
Oh, my gosh.
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B
That moment just gave me, like, goosebumps with the music. It was such, like, perfect music for it and, like, hold my mind.
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A
I know.
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B
It just made. It gave me, like, the energy, as if I was there, and I was like, oh, damn, I gotta watch this season, honestly.
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A
So you asked me, like, what got me back. Yeah, it's little moments. It's not one big moment. That was one of those moments.
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B
Really?
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A
Yeah. Yeah. I did that dance and I was like, oh, shit. I still got it. Like, that was awesome.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And like, damn, you still got it. Yeah, but, like, you know, sometimes you feel bad saying that, but I was like, like, yeah, I felt really, really good doing it. And also, like, I'm gonna be the first to say I got validated for it, and that felt really good, you know? And a lot of people, they didn't know I danced because it's this whole new generation of kids on TikTok that are like, wait, she dances? And. And, like. And, you know, like, some of the other pros. And, like, my brother was like, oh, yeah, she's the og, you know? And I was like, oh, that felt really good, you know? And look, it's an internal job, but also it feels really good to be validated, too, by, like, especially people that you respect.
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B
It was so good.
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A
It felt really good. And that.
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B
Are you gonna have to do one every season?
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A
No, I think that would be, like, ridiculous if I did, because then it wouldn't be special, you know?
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B
Hold my mind again.
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A
Again.
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B
Speaking of your brother, I have to tell you something so funny, which I'm sure you got about throughout your lives as being close, you and Derek and dancing together, people.
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A
Ryan made comments, right? Yeah.
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B
But I swear, you guys, I put this. I asked. I was. I was reading about the Mark Ballast stuff. Like, I just wanted to know, like, if you dated ever. So I asked. AI you guys, I wrote, you have to die. No, you're gonna die. So I wrote Mark Ballas and Julian Hupp to read about the thing I'm giving you how I prepare my interviews, guys. So then it says the beginning, but then the end, it goes. This is Google. Okay?
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A
This is why.
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B
Are you ready?
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A
Oh, I'm scared.
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B
While they had a close bond, they were not a couple. Huff's first love was Derek.
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A
I mean, not wrong. He is my brother. He is my.
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B
So funny that that comes up on your AI Google when we, like, imagine you just listen to this. Like, no, this is why you guys, you can't trust. You gotta, like, read through it and pick. Pick out the stuff you want, but do the homework. Yeah.
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A
No. One of the first things that we did for Dancing with the Stars actually was before either one of us was ever on the show. And we were background dancers on the live tour. And Carrie Anna Naba was like, not.
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B
Think of it that way.
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A
She. She was one of the choreographers and she had my brother and I dance the rumba.
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B
Is that a sexy dance?
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A
Is the dance of love.
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B
Okay. As you all should know.
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A
And of course, we're both like, you know, I'm 18, he's 21. And we're just like, we have a job to do. We must do this. Halfway through the tour, people started figuring out that we were brother and sister. And, like, we're about to start the song by the way, which was My Endless Love, we're doing a rumba, and all of a sudden we hear that's just wrong. So to this day, Carrie Anne is like, I'm so sorry I made you guys do the rumba.
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B
Wait, I can't believe you guys didn't even like Carrie Anne.
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A
We didn't push back.
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B
We didn't push back. Wait, are there faces involved in this rumba?
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A
You know, I'm sure we could do a deep, like, dive on YouTube and.
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B
See, like, the moments.
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A
Yeah, it was like, it. The. It was the Dancing with the Stars tour between season three and season four. Because it was right before my first season.
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B
And you didn't push back.
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A
No, we were students.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Do what we're told.
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B
And when. And you heard somebody scream that.
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A
That's just wrong. Yeah. And by the way.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Not. No.
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B
Are there. So ever since you've danced so many times together, so do you. Do you make sure it's like, like friendly looking dance?
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A
We literally could not even try to be.
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B
No, of course.
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A
Like, sexy when we dance, even if it's like side by side, because it just can't happen. So we used to tour together all the time and like, all of our dances were very playful. And then Derek now tours with his wife. And I'm like, how does it feel to actually just dance?
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B
Yeah. And like, let yourself.
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A
He's like, it feels so good. Because, like, that's what, like that. This. The chemistry when you do baller and Latin Dancing is. It's. It's so that.
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B
Wait, and you're going to be an aunt?
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A
Yes.
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B
That's so exciting.
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A
I know. This is technically my 11th niece and nephew.
- [60:06]
B
Yes.
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A
I had. You know, I was a. An aunt at 11. And so, yeah, for me, I'm like, I'm so excited as an adult to hold this baby and be like.
- [60:17]
B
And you guys are so close and live in the same. Right?
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A
Yeah.
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B
And I'm so glad his wife is doing well.
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A
That's amazing.
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B
That was a horrible.
- [60:25]
A
Honestly, truly a miracle. I mean, the doctor was like, if she would have come to a different or gone to a different hospital.
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B
Yeah.
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A
She would have died. And it was. It was crazy.
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B
Oh, my God.
- [60:36]
A
Yeah, it was. Every little moment was. Was a miracle.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And, like, completely guided and. Yeah, she's.
- [60:43]
B
She's doing great.
- [60:44]
A
She's literally perfect.
- [60:45]
B
And you're gonna meet that baby place soon.
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A
So excited.
- [60:49]
B
Tell me more about this cast of Dancing with the Stars. We got two Mormons.
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A
Yes.
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B
How you feel about that? Do you feel like they're gonna.
- [60:55]
A
I'm really excited.
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B
Camaraderie.
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A
I think so. I mean. I mean, the whole show is all about, like, pitting against each other in the. In that show. I feel. I mean, I haven't watched it fully, so I could be totally wrong, but I feel like there's a lot of drama between the cats.
- [61:09]
B
Right.
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A
But I met both of them and they're, like, actually friends and.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Sweet, right?
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B
Like, no, I really tried to get dirt. I interviewed one of them, and I was like, so how competitive are you going to be with her? And she's like, no. And I was like, what? I was like, if I was on the Mormon Wives, I'd want to be the only one from that show.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And they were like, no.
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A
But I will say, maybe that's the Mormon in them. That's just, like, ingrained, which is. Everybody should win.
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B
Everybody should win. No, there's only one winner. Who's your winner? Who do you think? Who do you predict? Give us your, like, oh, my goodness.
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A
I kind of have to be Switzerland because I'm the host. But anybody gonna surprise us once I. I mean, the four that were introduced first, Robert, Irwin, Alex, Earle, and. And Whitney and Jenna. I was like, oh, Whitney is amazing. Robert is gonna be, like, such a great. Just energy, like his sister Bindi. And then Alex has this following. That's crazy.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And so I was like, and they can all kind of dance. So I was like, oh. They're like, who's Gonna be able to come in and top that. And then it was like, not just. I think Dylan's having, like, a really amazing moment right. Right now.
- [62:21]
B
Dylan having fun?
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A
Yeah. And I think people root for him. He's like a. You can see he's like a good guy. But he also has Daniella as his partner, and she is a firecracker, really. She is fierce and so, like, I know she's, like, in it to win it, you know? So I'm like, watch out for that couple.
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B
Because I feel like in his energy, he, like, more laid back. So it'll be interesting to see them together. Hilaria Baldwin was announced. You're going to have to work on your Spanish, babe.
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A
I mean, hola. Como estas?
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B
Yeah. Com. Esteban.
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A
Yeah.
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B
How do you say dance? Right?
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A
B. Yeah, I love.
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B
But she's kind of a dance. I don't know.
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A
She is. I think she has dance. She had dance experience in the past. I don't know how much she's been doing it, but. But I mean, talk about somebody campaigning. I mean, she. She campaigned. She got on the show, babe.
- [63:12]
B
So many people campaign for this show.
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A
I feel like I get more dms about, like, being on the show than I can.
- [63:18]
B
You help. Do you have Paul?
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A
It's not. By the way, I have zero say.
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B
Okay.
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A
Or, like, decision making. But I. I suggest and, like, if.
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B
People, you know, so people annoy, like, people in your life or not even just, like, mutuals are like, help me get on the show.
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A
Totally.
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B
Everybody wants on the show. And it's. It's a little bizarre to me just because I feel like it's so stressful because this isn't like, go on Traders. You'll figure it out. And you just have to, like, scheme. You have to fucking dance. You do and be good and trained, but everybody wants it. It's like this bucket list for people.
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A
Well, there's so many facets to it. I always look at it as like, this is a transformation show masked in dance and rhinestones and sequins and whatever. The energy of the show truly is like, Joy Family. Holy shit. I'm super vulnerable, but people are rooting for me.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And even when they're not, they are.
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B
Yeah.
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A
It's like, it's such a joy, this show. Yeah.
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B
It's not a hating show, which is really fun because reality TV is so, like, toxic sometimes and fandoms get gross.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And I feel like Dancing with the Stars. Even if someone messed up or, like, did a bad dance, like, it's really light and fun.
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A
It's. It's. Everybody's accepting of the journey.
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B
Right. You know, she fell. We love her.
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A
Yeah, exactly. And I think, like, the number one question I always get asked anywhere I go is, when are they going to do Dancing with the Stars for the regular people? And I'm like, why do you want to learn, like, a paso ble? And they're like, no, I just. I want to go on that journey. Like, I. Yeah, I want to feel confident, I want to feel sexy, I want to lose weight, I want to learn how to dance. Like, whatever. The. The. The thing is, it's actually the thing underneath it, which is I want to watch that person come alive. I want to come alive. And that's what I see on the show.
- [65:03]
B
Do you think that could ever happen? A normie. Dancing with the Normies. Dancing with the Normies.
- [65:07]
A
Dancing with the Normies. Should we start?
- [65:09]
B
We should rework the title, but maybe we should give the people what they want. I could see that. Because, yes, people care about celebrities, but people also, if they get to know somebody from the beginning, we want to see their journey.
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A
Exactly.
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B
I don't. Not know.
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A
Not know.
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B
Is there a friend of yours that. Or a friend in the industry that you would really want to see on?
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A
So during the pandemic, because everybody was like, we don't have jobs.
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B
Yeah.
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A
I actually had a lot more people send message to me.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Messages to me that I was, like, surprised. Would want to do the show. I wouldn't be now, because again, the. The show kind of had a lull, and then it's like. It's just like, like, again went like this, like a hockey stick thing, you know? And anyway, they weren't the ones that asked, but I was kind of pitching. Was Sean and Nina okay?
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B
Because Sean ending at the same time.
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A
Yeah. I was like, how sick would that be if they could compete against each other? Because obviously he's competitive, but she is so competitive. And they both.
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B
And she's a content queen now. She's like, all about the tick tock.
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A
Oh, yeah. But they can both move. So I was like, how fun would it be to see them on the show?
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B
Okay, maybe.
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A
Who knows? Who knows? But that was like back in pandemic era when, like, again, maybe there was more time. Nobody knew if the world was gonna end or not. Like, I guess I can go on Dancing with the Stars now.
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B
Right. But that could still happen, I think. So are you gonna be in the wedding?
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A
I have no idea.
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B
Your guys's friendship is really cute. Are you as close? All throughout the years, we.
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A
We were through Rihanna, our hairstylist with the W nor. Yeah, we. We were introduced and we had like kind of a blind date and we went to a Lakers game and became friends ever since. Yeah.
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B
Let's manifest her on Dancing with the Stars.
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A
I know both of them.
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B
I want to see both of them. That would be good. Competing against each other. Julianne, thank you so much for coming.
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A
Thank you.
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B
You're the best. Everybody tune into Dancing with the stars September 16th.
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A
That is it.
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B
An ABC, please.
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A
And Hulu and Disney plus and also.
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B
Tick Tock and whatever and everywhere else. It's gonna be a good season.
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A
I feel like it's a good cast.
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B
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A
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