Podcast Summary: Not Skinny But Not Fat

Episode: Kris F*cking Jenner

Host: Amanda Hirsch (Dear Media)
Guest: Kris Jenner
Date: October 14, 2025

Overview

In this much-anticipated episode of “Not Skinny But Not Fat,” Amanda Hirsch finally welcomes the most-requested guest of the podcast: Kris Jenner, the iconic “momager” behind the Kardashian-Jenner family empire. The episode is a vibrant, candid conversation packed with humor, personal moments, and revealing insights. Topics span Kris’s philosophy on aging and beauty, family dynamics, behind-the-scenes reality TV, business smarts, and iconic pop culture moments.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Family Life & Grandparenting

• Family Bonding & Sleepovers: Kris describes the rotating “number one” child status, based on who she's most recently spent time with.
  • “It’s all Kendall, all day, every day, all the time. For everything.” (03:41)
  • “Kylie was number one this morning because she spent the night with me last night.” (03:55)
• Sleepover Routine: Kris details prepping for family dinners and maintaining a close relationship with her children and 13 grandchildren:
  • "If I had dinner once a month with one of my grandkids, that would take two weeks!" (05:15)
• Keeping Up with Grandkids: She admits it’s a challenge to track everyone’s activities but does her best, often relying on videos sent by Kim.
  • “I try, I do my best, I try to go to what I can go to.” (05:50)
• Lemonade Stand Story: Kris recounts dropping everything for an impromptu lemonade stand hosted by her grandchildren—revealing the importance she places on shared family experiences.
  • “I got in my car and I drove to the lemonade stand… and of course they’re singing the cutest song.” (06:43)

2. Manifestation, Spirituality, and Aging

• Manifesting & Spirituality: Kris is a big believer in prayer, spirituality, and manifestation.
  • “I pray about everything, and then between my prayer, my spirituality, and my manifestation, I try to cover all the bases.” (07:57)
• Turning 70: Kris reflects on her upcoming milestone birthday with gratitude and humor.
  • “I am [turning 70].” (10:22)
  • On her mother being a great-grandmother at 91: “She is celebrating a daughter that’s turning 70. That’s a crazy thing to say.” (10:32)
• Perspective on Aging:
  • Shares advice from Dr. Daniel Amen on not being in the “fourth quarter” of life until 75, which helped her reframe aging positively. (11:13)
  • “I start every day with gratitude. I think that’s a really important place to lead from.” (12:04)

3. Openness About Cosmetic Procedures

• Being Transparent: Kris discusses candidly filming her surgeries and procedures (facelifts, hip replacement, hysterectomy) on reality TV—demystifying cosmetic interventions.
  • “Fear is not your friend.” (15:05)
  • “It was a definite intentional decision to film and to talk about what I was doing...” (15:19)
• Giving Credit to Her Surgeon: Kris insists her facelift surgeon, Dr. Steven Levine, get proper credit, sharing the secret “password” system to screen referrals.
  • “As long as we can come up with a password… if somebody calls and says, ‘I’m Kris Jenner’s best friend’… they have to say the secret password.” (17:10)

4. The Reality TV Machine

• Nearly 20 Years on Reality TV: Kris recounts creating and producing “Keeping Up with the Kardashians” and its continuation on Hulu/Disney+.
  • “This is seven seasons with Disney/Hulu… I’m on my 27th season. Think about that.” (24:34)
• No Plans to Quit: Kris is enthusiastic about future seasons and the unique experience of filming as a family.
  • “No, truly, I love it so much. Really, I do… I want to keep going forever.” (26:38)
• Family Dynamics on Set: The family really are in close proximity on and off camera, despite public perception.
  • “Somebody wrote… ‘a rare photo of all the girls together,’… we all live down the street from each other!” (28:35)

5. Business Acumen & the “Momager” Role

• Multitasking & Problem-Solving: Kris sees herself as the organizational and operational heart of the family’s business ventures.
  • “I’m more of the business side… the solution side. When something goes wrong, I’m like a fireman.” (32:08)
• Starting Family Businesses: She describes a collaborative process in launching new projects, managing ideas, and forming dedicated teams.
  • “We start together… we’ve definitely got a system that we go through when we’re vetting a new company…” (32:56)
• Executive Producing Kim’s New Series (“All’s Fair”): Kris raves about Kim’s acting debut and the pleasure of working with Ryan Murphy and a stellar cast.
  • “Kim’s acting, the fashion, the sets… the whole thing is fantastic.” (35:37)

6. Public Perception, Haters, and Social Media

• On Haters: Kris used to care about negative opinions, but learned (from Kim and her grandmother) the value of taking the high road and thickening her skin.
  • “People are just… maybe trying to get attention… we have really thick skin.” (30:01)
  • Anecdote about a negative email exchange turning into a job inquiry. (30:24)
• Internet Culture & Memes: Kris embraces her status as a meme queen.
  • “How could I ever be over that? …I’m always the first one to laugh at myself and not take myself too seriously.” (52:11)
  • Favorite meme: “You’re doing amazing, sweetie.” (52:15)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On rotating “favorite child” status:
  “If Kim sees that or Kourtney sees that or Kylie sees that, would they try to change it for you?”
  Kris: “Get a remark every single time… by whoever I’m with.” (03:32)

• On intentional transparency about cosmetic work:
  “Fear is not your friend.” (Kris Jenner, 15:05)

• On producing reality TV:
  “I was so inspired, believe it or not, by Girls Next Door. I thought that was the funniest…” (Kris Jenner, 47:03)

• On handling haters:
  “I was quick to respond… I would want to snap back… But… my grandmother helped raise me, and her motto was always, ‘If you don’t have something nice to say, don’t say anything at all.’” (29:37–30:01)

• On Kim Kardashian’s legal expertise:
  Q: “Would you hire Kim to represent you?”
  Kris: “A thousand percent… She already does. She represents the whole family. She doesn’t even realize it.” (50:35)

Rapid-Fire Q&A Highlights (43:48 – 53:46)

• Whose closet would you want to trade with?
  Kris: “Kim, because of her love of vintage.” (43:59)

• Who has the best one-liners?
  Kris: “Chloe… I was going to say Kris Jenner, but I thought, oh, give it to Chloe. Well, you know, it’s me.” (44:09)

• Hardest to shop for:
  Kris: “Probably Kim. She’s very specific and she has just a fantastic taste level.” (44:40)

• Kris on joining Real Housewives:
  “No. No, no, no, no.” (45:22)

• How do you make your martinis?
  “Shaken and not stirred, extra dry, two olives, really cold, in a fabulous glass.” (50:47)

• Favorite meme/meme reaction:
  “How could I ever be over that?… I’m always the first one to laugh at myself and not take myself too seriously.” (52:11)

Timestamps for Important Segments

• [03:41] — Kris on current “number one” favorite child.
• [05:15] — Reality of balancing time with 13 grandchildren.
• [07:57] — Belief in manifestation and spirituality.
• [10:22] — Turning 70 and feelings about aging.
• [15:05] — On transparency about surgeries: “Fear is not your friend.”
• [24:34] — Reflecting on filming 27 seasons of reality TV.
• [26:38] — No plans to end the show.
• [29:37–30:01] — Lessons from haters and the importance of “the high road.”
• [32:08] — Kris on her role: business, organization, problem-solving.
• [35:37] — Excitement about Kim’s new TV role.
• [43:48–53:46] — Rapid-fire quick questions (closets, one-liners, gifting, meme culture, advice).
• [50:47] — Kris’s martini recipe.

Tone & Style

The conversation is lively, warm, self-deprecating, and peppered with humor. Kris’s ease with honesty—whether about plastic surgery, family competition, or meme fame—shines. Amanda and Camilla (co-host) ensure questions are both fun and probing, creating an atmosphere reminiscent of friends bantering at home.

For New Listeners

This episode is a must-listen for fans and newcomers alike, offering rare, unfiltered access to Kris Jenner’s perspective on fame, family, and the machinery of modern celebrity. It cements her legacy as not just the Kardashian matriarch, but a cultural icon who’s in on the joke, always hustling, and always ready with a fabulous martini.