Mandy Moore is Back!

Summary

Not Skinny But Not Fat – Mandy Moore is Back!
Host: Amanda Hirsch | Guest: Mandy Moore
Release Date: June 2, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this warm, lively, and candid conversation, Amanda Hirsch welcomes Mandy Moore back for her second appearance on the Not Skinny But Not Fat podcast. The episode blends real-talk about motherhood, work, friendship, and pop culture with Mandy's signature down-to-earth charm. Touching on life as a mom of three, new creative projects (including her family film "Breadwinner"), and her enduring Hollywood friendships, this episode is both relatable and packed with insider tidbits, memorable anecdotes, and lots of laughs.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Catching Up & Reflecting on Motherhood

Timestamps: 15:27–24:25

• Both women reminisce about their previous conversation (“Dr. Death” days, postpartum return to work, and surprise pregnancies)

  • Mandy and Amanda realize they were both newly pregnant last time (16:05).
  • Mandy shares her journey with IVF and the surprise conception of her third child, Lou.
    Quote:
    "I had done a round of IVF... it was unsuccessful... I am so grateful and so happy with these two guys, and our family will be complete if that's... how it's supposed to unfold. And then Lou just had to show up." (16:39–17:26)

• Motherhood’s physical and emotional toll

  • Mandy discusses the 23-month age difference between Lou and Ozzy, the challenges of close-in-age kids, and her postpartum recovery.
  • Unmedicated births for her first two children and how a clotting disorder led her to an epidural with Lou.
    "For Lou, I went on steroids...because I have something called thrombocytopenia...The first two boys were unmedicated. And then with Lou...I had an epidural...and it was a dream." (18:49–19:41)
  • Both agree: “Men could never.” (19:50)

• Transition from two to three kids

  • Mandy finds the experience easier with each child due to increased confidence as a parent.
  • Baby pushing—Mandy encourages Amanda to consider another ("I'm a baby pusher!") (21:27–21:31)

• Traveling and logistics as a family of five

  • How hotel stays and travel become a new kind of “fancy” without kids.

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2. The Realities of Birth & Healthcare Experiences

Timestamps: 24:35–29:23

• Mandy’s hospital birth story: The doctor who scrolled CNN and complained about missing a lobster roll during labor
  • Memorable anecdote:
    "The guy was just, like, scrolling on CNN...while I'm pushing. And...I hear him complaining...there's a lobster truck outside Cedars...he probably wasn't gonna get a lobster roll for lunch." (25:01–26:00)
  • Silver lining: Mandy ultimately had a healthy baby and subsequent “redemptive” births with a doctor she loved.

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3. Mutual Support, Friendship, and Life in the Spotlight

Timestamps: 36:07–52:59

• Working with Diane Keaton on “Because I Said So”

  • Touching tribute to Diane’s maternal, one-of-a-kind spirit on set.
    "She really did feel like your mom for a couple months...she's just. She is one of one Diane." (36:49–37:20)

• “This Is Us” and the Glory of Unsung Moms

  • Discussing how Rebecca (her character) became the show’s emotional glue.
    "She was sort of the unsung hero in the end, the glue of the family that held it all together. Moms tend to be that, you know, get...Not get the glory, but they are the glue." (39:23–40:04)

• Maintaining cast connections

  • Continues to do the "That Was Us" podcast monthly with Chris and Sterling (K. Brown), and celebrates their ongoing successes.
  • The reality of prosthetic makeup: Pregnant during filming, three to five hours in the chair (42:23–43:08).

• Mandy’s approach to sharing her glam squad and resources

  • She does not “gatekeep”–whether hairdressers or doctors (44:00–44:59).

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4. The “Mom Group” Story, On Female Friendships, and Social Media Narratives

Timestamps: 45:25–52:09

• Addressing rumors of “mom group drama”
  • Mandy expresses frustration at narratives pitting women and moms against each other.
    "Another story that's just pitting women against each other...the friendships that I have made since becoming a parent are the most surprising of my adult life...They’re life giving to me." (46:28–47:14)
  • Shares her deep, supportive friendship with Hilary Duff—how they became close before becoming moms and supported each other through pregnancies, especially during the pandemic.
  • Touching support for Hilary’s career resurgence:
    "No one deserves it more...she's the raddest, the hardest worker, the best mom, the greatest friend." (52:12–52:20)

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5. Life’s Lighter Moments: Names, Hair, and Family

Timestamps: 61:05–66:46

• The Mandy Moore/Mandy Moore (choreographer) confusion

  • Mandy recounts years of mistaken identity—emails about "ERAS tour" choreography, Emmy nominations, etc.
    "I am the world's worst dancer. That is not my skill set whatsoever." (62:36)

• Her unusually close relationship with her mother-in-law

  • Living together for nine months after a fire, the benefits of close proximity, and the value of in-law support for parenting and date nights.
    "I got so used to having her there that then when we moved back and she moved on, I'm like, I don't like this." (65:13)

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6. Mandy Moore’s New Film "Breadwinner" and Current Projects

Timestamps: 66:46–76:14

• "Breadwinner" – A family comedy starring Nate Bargatze

  • Mandy was attracted to the throwback, co-viewing vibe:
    "It feels like a real throwback to the kinds of family movies that I loved growing up that they just don't make anymore...that co-viewing experience." (66:51–67:04)
  • Plot: Mandy’s character is a mompreneur accepting a Shark Tank deal, forcing her husband to become the stay-at-home parent—with comedic results.
  • Celebrating the “invisible labor” of moms.
    "It celebrates the invisible labor that moms don’t get…the unsung heroes."' (69:43–69:52)

• How organized is too organized as a parent?

  • Mandy preps school lunches/breakfasts the night before; describes her approach as “making my life easier” amidst early wakeups.

• Her “non-cook” confession

  • Mandy and Amanda bond over not cooking (71:02).

• Multiple projects in development:

  • The new series "The Land" (Dan Fogelman’s football show) coming early next year.
  • "Teach Me," an erotic thriller pilot for A24 (“yes, please, Peacock, pick it up!”).
  • Desire to appear in an A24 project.

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7. Social/Pop Culture Bits & Memorable Moments

• On the Summer House Reunion & compassion for the “villain”

  • Amanda underscores empathy for reality TV stars enduring online hatred, regardless of their on-screen behavior (07:06–13:33).

• Funny moments:

  • Mandy’s doctor on lobster rolls during labor (25:01).
  • The saga of “Barb” the hairstylist (“I don’t gatekeep…but Barb is now booked!”) (44:00–44:59).
  • Mandy receiving congratulatory emails for choreography awards that aren’t hers (62:36).

• Coffee talk:

  • Mandy is a “one serious coffee” person, loves half and half, and adds protein and “lotions and potions” in her coffee—whisked, of course (71:48–73:44).

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Notable Quotes

• On motherhood & IVF:
  "If this is something that's meant to be, it will happen naturally. Otherwise, I am so grateful and so happy with these two guys." (16:39)

• On labor and delivery:
  "I am a big proponent of, like, any way that a woman gives birth is, like. Is heroic on a level that men could never." (19:43–19:51)

• On female friendships:
  "The friendships that I have made since becoming a parent are the most surprising of my adult life...they're life giving to me." (47:14)

• On “This Is Us”:
  "Not get the glory, but they are the glue." (40:04)

• On organization as a parent:
  "I'm making my life easier so that I can wake up in the morning. Because sometimes my kids wake up really early." (70:50)

• On gatekeeping:
  "I don't gatekeep. Some things you gotta...but Barb is now booked." (43:57–44:02)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• [15:27] Start of Mandy Moore interview
• [16:39] Mandy discusses IVF journey
• [18:49] Birth stories and admitting to underlying condition
• [25:01] The “lobster roll” doctor anecdote
• [36:07] “Because I Said So” & working with Diane Keaton
• [39:23] “This Is Us” – Unsung hero mothers
• [44:00] On sharing resources (glam squad/”Barb”)
• [46:28] Addressing "mom group drama" stories
• [52:56] Hilary Duff’s career resurgence
• [61:05] Mandy Moore–choreographer name confusion
• [65:13] Living with in-laws after the fire
• [66:46] New movie “Breadwinner” origins and plot
• [71:48] Coffee routines discussed
• [73:33] On why she avoids a second cup of coffee
• [75:18] “The Land” and upcoming projects
• [76:07] Manifesting an A24 project

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Episode Tone & Takeaways

• Authentic, supportive, and refreshingly honest: Both women share personal stories, challenges, and triumphs of motherhood, friendship, and work-life balance in the spotlight.
• Empathy and humor over drama: Mandy and Amanda push back against facile, negative narratives and instead focus on the joys and realities of friendship and parenting.
• Nostalgia and career celebration: From "Because I Said So" to "This Is Us," and now "Breadwinner," Mandy’s career is a thread through multiple generations of women.

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For fans and newcomers alike, this episode delivers a blend of real-life insight, star-studded anecdotes, and supportive, infectious laughter—cementing why Mandy Moore continues to be one of Hollywood’s most rooted, relatable stars.

Transcript

[Mandy Moore]

The following podcast is a Dear Media production.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Welcome back to the Not Skinny But Not Fat podcast. I'm your host, Amanda Hirsch, and I

[Claire Holt]

still can't believe that I get to

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

chat with some of my favorite stars on my very own podcast, where you'll feel like you're just talking shit with your best friends in your living room.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Hey, guys. Happy Tuesday.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

Welcome back to Not Skinny Without Fat. I'm your host, Amanda. I'm. I don't know. I think I'm, like, allergic or something's going on because I'm, like, congested again. But I love just, like, talking to you guys like, you're my mom. Like, literally. But in case you're like, you sound stuffy. I wonder what's going on, Amanda. So I'm telling you, like, I think it's allergies. But isn't it funny when you say that and, you know, you're a person that doesn't get allergies, but you're like, it's probably allergies, and people are like, oh, you're allergic to what? Like, and you're like, I don't know. The weather changing. So maybe it's just changing weather. Anyway, I'm recording this on Friday, and it is Tuesday today. If you're listening on Tuesday, when the pod comes out. And that means that I'm 38 years old, which freaks me out. To say that right now that it's been my birthday when it hasn't yet. Like, that gives me, like, bad juju. Like, I'm just like, okay, let's take it back. I didn't just say that. You know what I mean? Like, let it happen. Like, I don't want to. You know, I'm very superstitious when it comes to that. But, yes, if you're listening on Tuesday, it means that it has been my birthday. And I just want to know that. Like, I. I feel like I haven't talked about my birthday. I haven't been like, it's almost my birthday. I haven't posted the meme that I usually post. That's like, I've been waiting for all of May for it to be the end of May. So it's my birthday because I feel like I didn't feel that this year. Now, I think I said this somewhere, but, like, I wanted to say that and, like, post them. You and be like, it's so weird. Like, I don't feel that this year, but then I thought people would think that I'm, like, into getting older or, like, being one more year older. And I'm like, that's not my vibe at all. Like, I'm super, super happy to turn 38. And I think it's young and chic and great. I just maybe, like, calm down about my birthday, like, which can come with growing the up. So, yes, so I feel like I grew the up that I calmed down about my birthday. But. So that's what I thought. Okay, that's what I thought. And then I think I've talked to you guys about this before, but the way it's been done kind of in my family, and this was inherited to my husband and all of our husbands in the fam is that, like, my family has always, like, planned birthdays for the person that's having a birthday. The person that it's their birthday just waits to see, like, what are you going to do for my birthday? And, like, their years, you're going to be blown away, and you're going to be surprised by presents and maybe a little trip upstate or whatever it is. And there are years where you're like, okay, we're going out to brunch. That was the big fudgeing surprise. So I think, like, every year, the past couple of years, I've been saying, enough with the shit. Like, let me just, like, I want to take the control back and, like, decide what I'm doing for my birthday and, like, tell you guys. And if you guys want to then, like, surprise with something, you can. But I want to know that, like, I have control over one thing that's happening during this huge holiday, and I've been saying that I'm going to do that. And then this year, husband, I have both birthdays in May, so we always kind of discuss, like, kind of like, you know, what we're going to do. He fell into the thing of surprises, too. So, like, I surprised him, he surprised me. But this year we were like, let's just, like, be chill and, like, may, like, let's do a trip together or, like, do a trip with the kids or whatever. And then, like, time started approaching anyway, and I was like, yeah, I want to do, like, at least, like, a night like me and you. Like, even, like, upstate somewhere, like, somewhere drivable. And then when I come with the idea a couple weeks ago, like, let me, like, I looked into what's called wildflower farms, I think Wildflower farms. I was like, okay, like, let's go this night. And then I tell my sister. She's like, we have something planned that day. And then I tell my husband. I was like, I Don't care if they have something planned. Like, if it's a brunch, like, I want to go for a night. And he's like, let me talk to Arielle about it. And I'm like, g, everyone's being fishy and weird. So, like, I can't schedule this because something else is happening. And now I'm upset, like, from not caring about my birthday. I'm like, I'm pretty upset. Not because I'm, like, pre disappointed. I'm sure it'll be fine, but because, like, I didn't do what I said I was gonna do. And what I said I was gonna do was, like, plan my own birthday. Know what I'm going to do?

[Amanda Hirsch]

It does.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

You know, you change as a person. And now I don't like the feeling of not knowing and not having control. Like, let me have control. Let me say, like, I know what I'm doing on my birthday. On Friday, I'm going here, I'm going to go to a spa on Saturday. Like, when I feel like I've been saying the last couple of years, I'm going to change this shit up and I'm going to take it in my own hands. And I didn't take in my own fudgeing hands like I was going to, but it was too late or some fudgeing shit. Anyway, I'm not pretty upset.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Okay?

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

I'm. I'm a little pretty upset. I'm already like, if it's a fudgeing brunch, shots will.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Will be.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

I will say husband's very good at gifts. Like, last year, he got me the Balenciaga City bag. The year before that, like, a ring, concierge diamond bracelet. Like, year before that, like, Cartier bracelet. Like, everything nice I have is, like, things that were either gifted or husband bought me for my birthday. And him knowing alone, like, I've never pointed to a thing. I've never said a thing. He just, like, knows that kind of like, if your husbands need help, come to husband, okay? Because he got the gift giving around me, I'm the opposite for him. I do not know what to get him as a gift. He's such a specific guy that if you get him a shirt with, like, the pocket on the left side and on the right, like, he doesn't want it. So I don't with that. Anyway, how is everybody? I hope everybody's doing well. Last week was a crazy week because of Summer House reunion part one, I think. I mean, I said this on my story and I talked about it.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Already.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

But just in short, a short little recap review is like, yes, it was insane. Now I'm mad that like was leaked, right? Because like we like knew a lot of what was coming and I think we knew like the craziest parts. Not I guess, the part where Sierra calls her weak and meek and not the part where Amanda says off to Sierra, which was wild. But I talked about this Mia saying you're one of west side. Like it's crazy to me. Like I feel like that's such a spot on thing and like there is no world in which they're like gonna end up together. Like Kyle and Amanda staying together was. I believe that over a Wes and Amanda seriously dating. Like he's not a serious guy. Like, you know what I mean? Like he's just not, he's not there in his life. He's like, seems like one of those like you know, just bachelors forever. But I will say I did get a message I wanted to read to you guys and I feel like people that know me know this about me, but somebody wrote to me, you always defend whoever is getting annihilated. You are so consistent with it and I admire it and think it's necessary for conversations. You have always, always, always defended everyone and give everyone a chance and stick up for the mental health of it all, blah, blah, blah. So, and this person doesn't agree with me. She then said, and I am the

[Claire Holt]

polar opposite of you.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

I want to cut their heads off. So why I appreciated this is because I know there's a lot of conversation where people are saying like, maybe people weren't as mad at Ariana and she was way fucking harsher. First of all, I do always feel for the person getting attacked because I just from being a person on the Internet, I can imagine what that feel, you know, when you're like, I can't imagine, like I can imagine what that feels like, you know what I mean? So I know that like it would put me over the edge. Like I, you know, it, it would not be good for my mental health whatsoever. So you know the minute to me that nobody like murdered anybody. And when it was scandal and when it's now, I've always been like, let's calm the down. Like I had sandoval on the podC. I was telling people to like calm down re Raquel. When Ariana told her Raquel nothing short of like go kill yourself. I did not approve of that at all. So I am treating both of these situations and I mean guys, I'm like Team Blake Lively. I was like, team Amber Heard. Like, I do have a soft spot for when people are getting annihilated. I don't like to jump that train. And maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I should have jumped all the trains. Maybe I should have been more harsh on Sandoval. Maybe I should have watched the trial and turned on Amber Heard and called her poop or whatever everyone was saying. But that is my instinct. I'm just talking personally as a person, to not jump to the defense because I'm not defending what they're doing, but just to show a little more compassion and not say, like, they deserve everything they're going to get, like, run them down on the street. And also I'm taking things like, proportionately, like, yes, it's an awful thing. Cheating is awful. Like, all that shit is awful. But it happens in life and it happens on reality TV and off reality tv and it is not a crime. And you're not going to go to jail. You're just a shitty person and a shitty friend. And that relationship with the person you heard is not going to happen. And probably other people won't want to be in relationships with you, friends or otherwise, because you betrayed people. You lied, you betrayed. You did something awful. You did something unimaginable to your best friend who was there for you. I mean, again, I don't know if they were best friends, but shocking things that came out of the reunion were that to me that Amanda wasn't like answering Sierra to hang out. She was just hanging out at west and like, literally dodging her invites to hang out. I loved hearing how like direct Sierra was with the text messages being like, where the were you? Let me know if I'm gonna find anything out. Let me know if there are videos or photos to corroborate this. Like, she was like, she was like straight on, let me the know. So back to like the anger or not anger of, you know, Ariana or Sierra. I don't think Sierra was too harsh. I just think that sentence where she said she was weak and meek. And when Amanda started crying, I know why Amanda started crying. Because, like, having the person that used to say all these, like, great things to you is saying now the opposite probably made her feel like, okay, the only person that was ever saying these uplifting things to me actually thinks this of me and that's why it hurt her. So I think, like, when Kyle said it was harsh and then Sarah was like, that's not my wife. Which, like, touche, that's true. Is like, that's like, you know, below the belt kind of thing. But obviously what Amanda did. Sierra is beyond below the belt. It's at the toes.

[Amanda Hirsch]

But.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

But I did think it would be like, cool. Not that she's. Sierra is not the coolest person alive. Like, she doesn't need my input to be cool, but it would just be like, to be more like, I don't give a fudge. Like, Wes, I don't give a fuck about you. Like, I don't your on the floor. Like, you know, and now that I'm thinking about it, I wish she like, was more harsher on Wes. Like, why was Amanda taking the brunt of the shit? You know what I mean? I just feel like again, the woman is getting the. The load of it. And yes, it makes sense. She was Sierra's friend. Sierra has low expectations in west, but Sierra was also like in love with west and that's the bottom line of all of this. Like, she was so in love with this guy. And that's what annoyed me about him the most, is like he was trying to downplay that relationship. Like, oh, we had one sleepover, two. Babe, you should have said my whole relationship with Sierra was based on flirting, physical closeness, like touchy feeliness. Like, don't try to act like it wasn't. Don't try to act like. And by the way, I have tea for you. Or I think I've said this before, but let's reiterate. What I know for sure is that when I had my event with threads in December and all of them came, I know that Amanda and Kyle hadn't announced yet, but something was definitely going on because they like arrived, I think separately and weren't sitting together and it was like a whole thing. However, west and Sierra were super close that night. They went out after with Kyle to Amanda, went home. I was there. Like, they were super close. So if they hooked up that night, I wouldn't be surprised. This was in December. So what I'm saying is I believe the timeline rews and Amanda that they started in the end of February because end of December, I believe he was still hooking up with Sarah. He was seeing her now with Sierra allowing this behavior from this man who fucked her over three fucking times. And you know, said to her, he said in September that he's not going to go in that route and he doesn't want to hurt her again. And I mean, listen, we all have been there where we fell for the guy that we shouldn't be and we let ourselves be A situationship for way fucking too long, but that's what that was. Which is why maybe I feel like Sierra couldn't point her anger towards west because it's like, I'm a situation, Jeff. Like, what do you mind me for? Like, I've always been a piece of shit. So she is mad at Amanda because Amanda is the one that knows, like, how in love with him she is. But I do think, like, if Amanda and Wes are fudgeing in love against all odds and they just couldn't resist it, then come in fudgeing strong, okay? Come and saying, we are in love. This happened. We love you guys so much. We hope you can forgive us one day at our wedding with our children. Like, that's how I feel. I've said it before. If you're gonna blow up your life, blow up your life for a reason. But sometimes you don't. I mean, Olivia Wilde blew up life

[Amanda Hirsch]

with Jason Sudeikis for Harry Styles.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

Are they still together? No. Harry Styles is going to marry Zoe Kravitz, and Olivia Wilde moved on. And you know what?

[Amanda Hirsch]

Maybe it's for the best.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

Maybe Olivia Wilde and Jason Sudeikis weren't meant to be. You know, maybe she was supposed to have this extravaganza with Harry Styles. Like, your life goes in a certain way and maybe it'll work out. Maybe this is what it took for Amanda to finally leave Kyle. And, like, maybe, you know, this is what it took for Sierra to blow up and be the star that she deserves to be. I believe in that. I think everyone will live. And that's why I think we need to take it less seriously. It's awful, but let's move the fog on. Obviously, I'm still excited to see part two and three in the reunion and be jaw dropped when, I mean, the lack of remorse continues. I just don't know, you guys. When I said, like, act like, if you were like, why would you want them to act like it? Let them be who they are. Of course I want them to be who they are, but I'm like, if you're really numb and you actually don't give a shit, then, like, you know, the world expects you to give a shit. So, like, please act like you give a shit. Like, how the fudge are you sitting there and acting like you did nothing wrong? Like, it's so beyond to me. And I just know that the reason why Amanda came in like, heated on Sierra is because it's been three weeks since the rumors and the announcement and she's being Kind of like Wes, where West hated Sierra for people hating him. And I think Amanda and Wes probably both were kind of like being bitter about, like Sierra's success and people loving her and dying over her. And they are just taking it out on her, you know what I mean? That they're getting on and she's getting hyped up. So they came in angry at her, which is a wild concept. Anyway, let's move on to today's pod. I don't usually have repeat guests unless they are friends. Unless I love them so much and can't wait to catch up with them again. And that's my girl. Today it is. Mandy Moore is here for the second time. We've been through so much, me and Mandy Moore. If you're an og, you know that I was once blocked by her. Yes, I will. Was. We tried to get to the bottom of it in our first podcast and now she's back for her second time on the pod. She has a new movie by Nate Barazi. So bad with last names, but got good after I discovered him through this movie. And now I'm obsessed with his stand up. Like, I know I'm so late, but like, I think he's so funny. So he has a new movie called Red Winner and Mandy Moore plays his wife in the movie and she's back here to talk about that and everything else that she's up to in her life. It's just good to sit down with like an old friend, you know, a new friend, because I was once blocked by her. But enjoy my catch up with my girl, Mandy Moore.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Rolling, rolling. She's back.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah, I'm back.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah. Here we go. Yeah. What were you even here for last time? Do you remember Dr. Death, right?

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah. 2023.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And it was. I wouldn't forget it because it was like, Mandy Moore back to work six weeks postpartum.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah. With Ozzy. Yeah. Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I went right back to work and I was. Couldn't believe it because you were.

[Mandy Moore]

You were pregnant. Newly pregnant.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Mandy Moore]

I don't even know if you'd announced it yet or maybe you had just announced.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

Yeah.

[Mandy Moore]

Or something. Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

December 2023. Yeah, I was pregnant.

[Mandy Moore]

When's he. When's his birthday?

[Amanda Hirsch]

He was born June. So I was pregnant.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah, you were pregnant for sure.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And you became pregnant five minutes later.

[Mandy Moore]

Five minutes later. I was like, wait, Amanda's pregnant? Let me go home now.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Because I think you even said on my pod, like, I can't remember how you said it, but you said something like, it may be Complete.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah, maybe.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Mandy Moore]

But I think in the back of my mind, I always knew, being one of three, that, like, I was very open to that possibility.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Mandy Moore]

And the universe was like, yep, we got you.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Were you talking about it with Taylor? Cause I'm sure, like, maybe you've seen me.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

I'm like, no, no, no.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Have a therap.

[Mandy Moore]

Do I have a therap?

[Amanda Hirsch]

Can't shut up about it. Like, were you in that state of mind talking about it?

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah, because very candidly, I had done a round of ivf. I was like, okay, if we want to. I had the extreme privilege of being able to, you know, get pregnant and carry both of my boys. And I thought, you know, I'm getting older, and I would love to maybe have a tiny bit more space, potentially, between if we are going to have a third. So I did a round of IVF and it was unsuccessful. We didn't get any viable eggs, no embryos. So. So I was like, okay, well, this just settles that. Like, if this is something that's meant to be, it will happen naturally. Otherwise, I am so grateful and so happy with these two guys, and our family will be complete if that's. If that's the way it's supposed to unfold. And then. Yeah. And then Lou just had to show up.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And she. She.

[Mandy Moore]

And she showed up very, very surprisingly. We were not trying, but obviously we were open to it because of the. The IVF of it all. It was like a third was.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Can I ask you. You did ivf? Did you need to do it?

[Mandy Moore]

Like, I only was doing it as an insurance policy. I was like, okay, so perhaps we can get an embryo. Oh, like, keep that embryo on ice. Like.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Like the freezing eggs, I mean.

[Mandy Moore]

Oh, okay.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

Okay.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Okay.

[Mandy Moore]

Yep.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

Right.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Because when people say freezing eggs, that includes going through ivf, basically. Oh, I got you.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Mandy Moore]

So we did one round of IVF of freezing eggs, and it just didn't work. And so I was like, okay, I am totally satisfied with. I tried that. And really grateful again that I have my boys. And if this is meant to be, it will. It'll happen.

[Amanda Hirsch]

So what is the difference between lou and Ozzy?

[Mandy Moore]

23 months.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Okay. Because you just said you wanted to give a little bit more. That's not a lot of time.

[Mandy Moore]

That's not a lot of time. Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

That's not.

[Mandy Moore]

I had three kids in three and

[Amanda Hirsch]

a half years, and look at that.

[Mandy Moore]

Oh, you're sweet.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Did it even take a toll?

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Mandy Moore]

Emotionally, I feel like I'm still recovering. I Mean, sure, you know, it definitely does. I do feel lucky that I, I think energetic. Like, pregnancy was very easy for me. I didn't suffer from any sort of postpartum symptoms and stuff. So, like, I, I. I feel like I had a relatively easy journey, all things considered.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Didn't you have to have unmedicated births?

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

For Lou, too?

[Mandy Moore]

Not for Lou. So for Lou, I went on steroids the last week to raise my numbers. Cause I have something called thrombocytopenia, which is, like, where your blood doesn't clot. It's like a clotting disorder that only really affects me in pregnancy or could potentially cause, like, if you bleed out or something during delivery, it's hard for your blood to clot. So that was. I initially wanted to have, like, a home birth, and that was not gonna be in the cards for me because of that. And that's how I found out I actually had this. This itp. So, yeah. So the first two boys were unmedicated. And then with Lou, I was like, well, because my numbers, my. My platelets had dropped so far down that the doctor was like, just in case anything happens, and let's say you have to have, like, an emergency cesarean. Let's, like, use the steroids to get your numbers up. And they went up above the threshold where I could get an epidural. So I had an epidural with her,

[Amanda Hirsch]

and it was a dream.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

Yeah.

[Mandy Moore]

I am a big proponent of, like, any way that a woman gives birth is, like. Is heroic on a level that men could never.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Men could never.

[Claire Holt]

Men could never.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I should have got you a T shirt.

[Mandy Moore]

Men could never understand. But I will say the epidural was a delight. I was like, were you pushing that thing?

[Amanda Hirsch]

You're like, well, I wasn't pushing it

[Mandy Moore]

up, but I was like, oh, this is like. She just, like, sort of flew out.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And you have something to compare it to.

[Mandy Moore]

I did, yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Unless you blacked out and.

[Mandy Moore]

No, I didn't black out. I remember both of those very distinctly. But yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And of course, of course, the girl came out. The girl came out, like, less difficult.

[Mandy Moore]

Yes.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And what is it like, like having boys and now a girl? Like, is it everything they say, like, easier sleeps, all those things?

[Mandy Moore]

I have to say the boys were relatively easy. As you have the experience with the second is, for the most part, it's going to be easier because you're a better parent. You, like, you know what you're facing. There aren't as many, like, unknowns. I think you're a Lot calmer. The first is more of a guinea pig.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Like.

[Mandy Moore]

And so the second was easier. And so inherently, I think the third is gonna be easier as well, just. Cause you're like. You're bringing that energy to this. This third experience. But it's hard to tell at this juncture. She was. She's been an incredible eater and sleeper, but the boys both were as well, so it's like. I don't know. She. I will say she, like, definitely is. Has her boundaries. Like, boy, the boys are pretty. Like, affectionate. Like, aggressively affectionate with her. Sometimes, like, they just want to kiss her. And. And she is. She'll be like, no, no, no, no, no. Like, she knows how to claim her space.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

I love it.

[Mandy Moore]

Which is very sweet, but I know you're on the fence about.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I know. That's why I'm like, I'm so gonna. I'm like, I'm a baby.

[Mandy Moore]

I'm a baby pusher, though, so I'm gonna. I'm gonna push.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Really? Yeah.

[Mandy Moore]

During the pod. Yeah. I mean, I'm just like, look, what's one more.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Okay, so you were talking about travel, because we were talking about, like, being able to. Now you're traveling for press, so it's like, really nice and fancy and. And whatever. And then with kids, fancy is like,

[Mandy Moore]

anytime you're not traveling with children.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I know.

[Mandy Moore]

I'm like. I can read a book. I can watch something. Like. Yeah. It's amazing.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And with. Okay, so three kids. Like a hotel room.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

What do you do?

[Mandy Moore]

Well, baby sleeps in the pack and play. And the boys, like, share a bed with us. They're, like, in between us.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah. I know. It's. It is different.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Mandy Moore]

I feel like the car, like, you order. Surprising situation.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

The what?

[Mandy Moore]

The car was the most surprising situation because.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Okay, you could get a third row.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

But then you're abroad. You need to order a car.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

I don't know.

[Claire Holt]

Car.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Car. I mean, it's just. I feel like, yeah, that's for such

[Mandy Moore]

a minimal amount of time. I just. I. Again, I'm one of three.

[Amanda Hirsch]

You know, we should talk.

[Claire Holt]

Claire Holt.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I feel like you guys have the same. She's also. She's such a baby pusher.

[Mandy Moore]

I love Claire. She's my favorite.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

We work together.

[Mandy Moore]

I know Claire very well, and the fact that she has three kids now just, like, makes me.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And she's, like, probably debating a fourth somewhere.

[Mandy Moore]

If anyone's gonna have a fourth of her. Her and Hillary. It's like the two of them are just like, there are certain women that are so made to inherently, like, embrace the chaos and not be flustered by it.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Do you get.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

I can't picture you flustered.

[Mandy Moore]

I'm not flustered. But I also know that, like, three is my limit. Like, I'm really. If I were younger and I could space it out more, I would potentially be. My husband is like, are you actually insane?

[Amanda Hirsch]

I can't believe that you're even saying a potential. If I loud, like, in a different

[Mandy Moore]

world, if a little differently. I mean, he's snip, snip. That's not a possibility for us anyway.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Like, yeah. Oh, damn. First of all, I love the active sex life because, like, a baby by surprise, he has to snip snip.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

To not do it again.

[Mandy Moore]

I love a snip snip and iud. It's like, I do. We are.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Why do you need an IUD also?

[Mandy Moore]

But the IUD help with, like, the bleed. I had very heavy flow.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Okay.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah. The IUD really helped.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah.

[Mandy Moore]

And you can only just, like, TMI so much.

[Amanda Hirsch]

You can do it. No, I mean, these are all ladies.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah, yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

But you can do an ID only after you're done having kids, right?

[Mandy Moore]

No, no, no. You could do it in between.

[Amanda Hirsch]

You can do it in between.

[Mandy Moore]

Absolutely. Like, in between. I feel like each baby, my doctor was like, do you want. I was like, no, I think I'm okay.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Mandy Moore]

But, yeah, this time, knowing that, I was very grateful and very much done, I was like, I would love to control my flow a little bit. It was so heavy. Like, you.

[Amanda Hirsch]

My flow.

[Mandy Moore]

Post baby.

[Amanda Hirsch]

My flow isn't crazy.

[Mandy Moore]

Oh, man.

[Amanda Hirsch]

My flow isn't crazy. My period. I'm the girl that, like, everyone tells me, like, you're always on your period. Which I hate that it feels that way. But it might be because I talk about it, like, every time I get my period, I announce it. There's the week before that. I'm like, it's happening, everybody.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

It's coming.

[Mandy Moore]

But, yeah, you feel when you're ovulating,

[Amanda Hirsch]

like, you do all those things you get, like. Because. I don't know. I can't picture you, like, the way I'm raging the week before my period. Like, do you rage? Like, do you get upset?

[Mandy Moore]

I think in my own way. Yeah. I can tell that, like, it's coming because I'm like, oof. I just feel, like, a little more, like, ticked off about things. Like, things that wouldn't normally get under my skin. Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Where you're like, why is this pissing me off so much? I saw somewhere, which I. I hadn't heard this before, that was it giving birth to Lou, that the doctor was on his phone.

[Mandy Moore]

No, that was Gus, the first doctor.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

Wait.

[Amanda Hirsch]

But I never heard this story before.

[Mandy Moore]

I don't know why. I guess I just told it on the podcast. I thought I had, but. So I wanted to have a home birth. So I was, like, pregnant during COVID and I had a midwife. So I was, like, hoping to have a home birth. Like, Hillary is a very good friend of mine. She's had, like, three home births and water births. I know. She's like, another level of superhuman. And I was like, that sounds amazing. Like, I think that is definitely for me. And so I was planning my whole pregnancy to have this home birth. I had, like, my. Like, I had the kit all the time. The pool delivered. The pool was delivered and everything. And about a month before I was due to deliver, I got my blood tested, and we had realized that my. My platelet levels had been dropping throughout pregnancy. And then it kind of like, if it's under a certain threshold, you're not allowed to do a home birth, and you have to have a hospital. Hospital birth. So I had to, at the last minute, switch teams. Oh, and my midwife found a. Like, at that time, the only midwife that delivers at Cedars, and she had to have a doctor backup. So in my mind, I was still, like, going in and having this, like, midwife help me deliver my baby, which is what I really wanted. But of course, what else do you expect with, like, a, like, chauvinistic male doctor? Like, he, at the last minute, like, kind of, like, took over and, like, sidelined the midwife and was there for when I was, like, pushing and, like, in the middle of contractions. And he was one of those, like, doctors that, like, probably shouldn't be practicing anymore, truth be told. Like, he was older and jaded, and, you know, you're scared. And I'm also, like, an intense people. Please. So in the middle of this, like, labor took a long. I labored at home for a long time. Then I finally went to the hospital and had been there, like, all night, and now it's finally, like, I don't know, like, 11 o' clock or something in the morning, and I'm pushing, and I remember distinctly, like, I had the rebozo, like, the thing I was, like, pulling. Had my foot on, like, the bar, like, pulling myself up to, like, with contractions. And, like, pushing. And I looked, and the guy was just, like, scrolling on cnn, like, on his phone while I'm pushing. And I was like, okay. Like, I just remember taking mental note of that even in the midst of, like, this anguish, this unmedicated birth. And then I'm, like, in between contractions, and I hear him complaining to the midwife that there's a lobster truck, like, outside Cedars. And this was, like, taking a long time, and he probably wasn't gonna get a lobster roll for lunch. And I was like, I'm so sorry. I'm sorry. You're not gonna get. Like, I felt bad and of course, apologized to him. But, I mean, he was, like, the kind of guy that, like, the baby was delivered, and he, like, goes to my husband, like, you want to cut the cord? And Taylor, like, goes to cut the umbilical cord. He's like, you know what this means? And Taylor's, like, what, thinking he's gonna, like, have some, like, sage, like, bit of wisdom for him. He's like, you gotta buy him a car when he's 16 or something. I was like, really, dude?

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, my God. Wait. I'm so here. I'm sorry. This was, like, the opposite of what you wanted. Yeah, but you wanted, like, a beautiful, healthy.

[Mandy Moore]

You wanted somebody walking around with Sage, my palo santo.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And then you got this.

[Mandy Moore]

This. I know. And everybody's like, that's why I didn't have it. Like, I saw the people in the comments, like, that's why I didn't. I was like, guys, it's. I wanted a home birth, too. Okay? I wanted something totally different.

[Amanda Hirsch]

No, but you know what's interesting?

[Mandy Moore]

Because it all unfolds the way it's supposed to, and I got a healthy baby, and that's all I care about.

[Amanda Hirsch]

But what's interesting to me is, like, isn't, like, a midwife slash a doula. Which I know they're not the same, but aren't. Isn't part of their, like, thing that they, like, know how to advocate for you. And, like, they. Was she just, like, a people pleaser, too?

[Mandy Moore]

I think she just felt a little sidelined by this guy that he, like, walked in and was like, okay, it's my show. It's my show. You're at the hospital. I'm the doctor. All of that to say. When I got pregnant with my second, I. I found a doctor knowing that, like, you made sure I was going to be giving birth in the hospital again, moving forward. So I found the most incredible doctor, and literally, I was So I just saw her recently and she was like, you sure? You sure you don't want to have another baby? I was like, Dr. Waldman, I would have another baby to hang out with you. Like, I love her so much. Anytime any friends in LA are like, I need a new doctor. I'm like, Dr. Waldman is. She's the great.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, you don't gatekeep. You don't gatekeep.

[Mandy Moore]

Oh, no, no, no. You have to spread the word for, like, the good people. Like, I'm like, this is. And I actually had a friend, had two friends that delivered with her. But I'm like, you. This is the kind of experience you want. Having a baby. She's the greatest.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah. That first one, it's always like, touch and go, touch and go. And you learn, you learn, and you live and learn.

[Mandy Moore]

I knew I know what I want moving forward and I know how to

[Amanda Hirsch]

set it all up.

[Mandy Moore]

Redemptive births after that.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I'm happy for you.

[Mandy Moore]

Thank you.

[Amanda Hirsch]

We'll be right back after the break.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

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[Claire Holt]

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[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

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[Claire Holt]

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[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

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[Claire Holt]

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[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

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[Claire Holt]

and that's when I started kind of using it.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

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[Claire Holt]

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[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

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[Claire Holt]

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[Claire Holt]

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[Amanda Hirsch]

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[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

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[Amanda Hirsch]

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[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

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[Amanda Hirsch]

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[Amanda Hirsch]

e l health.com the code is not skinny. And we're back. I was thinking, like, obviously just thinking about you coming and about all the iconic things that you've been in. You know, like, your body of work is so crazy and. And just classic after classic. And I was thinking about Because I said so with Diane Keon. First off, you haven't seen because I said so and once isn't enough. And if you haven't seen it with your whole family or with your mom

[Mandy Moore]

or you have sisters.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Right. For us, it's like such a special movie and so, like, kind of our mom to, like, be meddling and be like, I'm not mad. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not.

[Mandy Moore]

Because she loves you so much.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Mandy Moore]

So sweet.

[Amanda Hirsch]

What are your memories?

[Mandy Moore]

Somebody, like, I can't believe that she's gone. She just felt like this eternal, magical spirit that was always gonna be there. Like. Like she didn't age or something. I think back to how deeply maternal she was on the movie too. Like, she really did feel like your mom for a couple months. Like, I got to have this second mom and this, like, lifetime of love that she poured into each of us, and she's just. Yeah, she was something else.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And you got that experience that's so special, like, that you got to play her daughter.

[Mandy Moore]

I feel like there are a few of us in that camp, and I know Kim Paisley, who was her daughter and father of the bride, and we talked about that too. Like, she's just. She is one of one Diane. And, like, yeah, I just like to have that career, to have that longevity and for everyone to speak so similarly about her as a human and as an artist. Like, she just. Like, that's what you ascend to. Like, I hope to ascend to in terms of having that kind of legacy follow you around. And also, like, the fashion was always so singular as well.

[Amanda Hirsch]

So singular.

[Mandy Moore]

She would show up to work at 6 in the morning and, like, hair and makeup. And literally, like, I think she was the character. Like, most of those clothes had to have been her.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I was just.

[Mandy Moore]

It was like, the big belt and the skirt and the boots and the gloves and the hat.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Right. That was her.

[Mandy Moore]

It was all her, like. And she would show up to work that way.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Just like, I wonder if she was styled or if she.

[Mandy Moore]

I'm sure she had a lot of influence in how the character looked.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And also, like, now we know the guy that played. You're a dude. That's the suits guy.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Gabriel. Gabriel Mox. Yeah.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Such a cutie.

[Mandy Moore]

So cute.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And later he went on to become Harvey. Yeah, yeah.

[Mandy Moore]

But we do know that he's iconic on that show.

[Amanda Hirsch]

We do know. We know.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah. It's like, we know.

[Amanda Hirsch]

That's my, like, trait.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

What.

[Amanda Hirsch]

What sign are you?

[Mandy Moore]

Aries.

[Amanda Hirsch]

In Aries? I wonder. For. I feel like for Gemini, it's true that, like, I could talk about something so intensely and, like, not actually know

[Mandy Moore]

what you're talking about. You're a great bullshitter. I love it.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I'm like, withering heights like this and that. Have you seen it?

[Mandy Moore]

No, no, no, no. But I bought it. I believed it.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I believe.

[Mandy Moore]

Totally sold.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I love it. Whatever. Whatever they're doing. And, you know, this is us. I did watch, by the way. That was my show, you know, where I saw somewhere someone saying, like, someone wondering. I can't remember if it was in a comment, but, like, if it ever annoyed you that Jack got so much love. Like, the character, not the actors. Right.

[Mandy Moore]

Sure, sure.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And, like, Rebecca, I feel like she

[Mandy Moore]

had her flowers at the end.

[Amanda Hirsch]

At the end.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah. It's like the show sort of ended up being this love letter to Dan, our creator's mother. And he lost his mother, like, tragically, like, at a young age. And I think the show started out with people feeling like, Jack is the superhero. He is. He will forever loom large because he passed away in such a tragic manner. And the kids were so young. And they carried that grief with them, obviously, for the rest of their lives. But, yeah, she was sort of the unsung hero in the end of the glue of the family that held it all together. And moms tend to be that, you know, get.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Right. You're right.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah. They tend to be the.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Not get the glory.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Not like, not get the glory.

[Mandy Moore]

Not get the glory, but they are the glue.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Not get the glory, but they are the glue. That's so true. And you're still, like, so together. You're Doing a pod, right? That was us.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah, that was us. I get to do with Chris and Sterling like, once a month, so I get to see those guys, like, often. And I love them, I feel.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And Sterling is killing it.

[Mandy Moore]

Sterling is, like, right now, he's the best. There's truly no one better, no one more deserving, no one that works harder. Like, it's. He's just. He's also one of one.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Do you guys try to talk about, like, if you could do something else together?

[Mandy Moore]

I'm trying to get him. So I. He's finishing paradise right now. I just finished the Land, which is Dan's new show.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Is that. That the thing?

[Mandy Moore]

The football thing?

[Amanda Hirsch]

I know, but is that what all the fancy outfits that you do? Okay, I was wondering.

[Mandy Moore]

This is a boss.

[Amanda Hirsch]

That's where you started getting like this.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Mandy Moore]

She's like. She's in the room, and she's in Kate, and she's like, in fancy.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I know you. That was giving you the. The.

[Mandy Moore]

That was giving me life. I'm like, yes, I want to be this woman, but I do not own an NFL team, so I can't shop like this in my real life.

[Claire Holt]

Okay.

[Mandy Moore]

But yeah, so we joke about, like, Sterling coming on to, like, be. To on the land when, like, maybe next season he can be a football coach or something like that.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

Be back at work.

[Mandy Moore]

Yes. I love him.

[Amanda Hirsch]

He's so good, too.

[Mandy Moore]

He's so good.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And you just saw Chrissy.

[Mandy Moore]

Yes. In Nashville.

[Amanda Hirsch]

She came to the premiere of Breadwinner.

[Mandy Moore]

She did.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, that's sweet.

[Mandy Moore]

I know. It was like, Nate, whose film it is. He lives in Nashville. He's from Nashville. The movie's set there. So he wanted to have the premiere there. And I was like, who do I know in Nashville?

[Amanda Hirsch]

Chrissy.

[Mandy Moore]

Chrissy lives there. So, yeah, it was like a nice little. I got to, like, sit next to her and laugh with her for an hour and a half. It was the best. I love her. I miss her.

[Amanda Hirsch]

How much don't you miss sitting in makeup for 0%? Yeah.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah. So our hair and makeup do paradise, so I said they. And we just overlapped. We finished our show on the Paramount lot just as, like, paradise was starting their. Their third season. And so I got to see my friends Michael and Zoe that I worked with for six years, and they were like, do you miss the. The hair?

[Amanda Hirsch]

I was like, no, I can't imagine. Because, like, I don't like sitting for regular glam.

[Mandy Moore]

No.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I get impatient. So I can't imagine, like, it never bothered Me.

[Mandy Moore]

But I'm happy to be done with it now.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I'm happy. How many hours was it in the chair?

[Mandy Moore]

It was three and a half for, like, the present day when she was in her 70s. And then at the end of the show, for, like, the last half of the last season, I had to do play the character, like, in her 80s at the end of her life. And that took five. So that was a whole different ball game.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And did it feel claustrophobic?

[Mandy Moore]

It never felt claustrophobic, but for a lot of, like, the fifth season, I was pregnant with Gus. And then the last season, I was pregnant with Ozzy. Like, and nobody really knew. It was, like, towards the end of the show, I was, like, just barely pregnant when you're really. I got real nauseous, like, both all times with pregnancy. So having to, like, lay down and be in the prosthetic, like, aging makeup for hours at a time, I was like, ooh, this is.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah, I can't imagine. That is rough.

[Mandy Moore]

That wasn't fun.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah. Yeah. But hashtag worth it.

[Mandy Moore]

Worth it. No, wouldn't. Yeah, absolutely. Just happy I don't have to do that anymore.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I know. I know. I was thinking about you because I was looking at your recent headlines.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And one of them was hair transformation. I love that. It got a whole. It got a whole article about your blonde. That's why I saved the compliment for now news day, because you change your hair a little bit.

[Mandy Moore]

Changed my hair a little bit. This was for the land.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, okay.

[Mandy Moore]

This was for work. And then I was like, barb did it.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Okay, Barb. Shout out, Barb.

[Mandy Moore]

Barb does hair, everybody. Barb's the best. Barb does hill. I know. I've lost Barb because I've introduced her to all my friends.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I was thinking, first of all, wait, we're. We're sensing a common theme here.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Mandy Moore.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Does not gatekeep.

[Mandy Moore]

I don't gatekeep.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Some things you gotta.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Because what if Barb is not busy with Hillary?

[Mandy Moore]

Listen, I gatekeep Barb now. Barb doesn't have time for any new clients, so you can follow her. But Barb collars Barb cots. Barb styles. I know, but Barb. Barb, you're not going on tour with Hill, right?

[Amanda Hirsch]

Wait, okay, she so is. She's always gonna. She's not.

[Mandy Moore]

She's not. She's just doing the big show. Just the big shows. New York and la.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Okay, but. But. Okay, so you introduced Barb to Hillary and all and to more famous friends.

[Mandy Moore]

All. All my girlfriends. Not just, you know, in the public eye. Everybody. Everybody needs some normies in their lives.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Do glam, you guys.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah, normies need. Everybody needs glam. All the ladies.

[Amanda Hirsch]

No, it's true.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

It really is true.

[Mandy Moore]

My very good friends. I would never.

[Amanda Hirsch]

You're sharing and then you're gonna get. That's on you. Don't say no, I'm just kidding.

[Mandy Moore]

But yes. Yes. The blonde hair. The hair transformation was barb, but it was for work.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And then.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

Do you love it?

[Amanda Hirsch]

Are you gonna keep it? Are you gonna say a blonde?

[Mandy Moore]

I think for like a little bit. Just because it took a minute to get here.

[Amanda Hirsch]

It's like we will ombre vibes.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah, it's like a. Yeah, like a.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

But I like.

[Amanda Hirsch]

It suits you a lot. I mean, you were a blonde. Let us not forget everybody, if not for years.

[Mandy Moore]

Blonde is not really for me. I feel like this is like a bronze. Yeah, it's a. It's not like a bright blonde as I was back in the day. That doesn't. I don't think that suits me as well.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Mandy Moore]

But I think we'll probably. I'll go a little darker again. It just. I'll have to go back to this when we start shooting the show again. Whenever that is. So.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Speaking of Hill, you are really good friends with her and she's. You're, like, ready for me to ask the mom group question. I'm not gonna ask the mom group. I wasn't even gonna do it.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

We've talked about it.

[Amanda Hirsch]

But I feel like you are just right. You're. I feel. Say it.

[Mandy Moore]

Here we go.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I see you. You're amazing. And by the way, I wasn't gonna say that now. I saw you just chatted about it already.

[Mandy Moore]

I was not prepared for that. I was like, oh, oh, really?

[Amanda Hirsch]

I did see your eyes there.

[Mandy Moore]

Because I just feel like slow news day. We've moved beyond that. It's the real non story. And Hill's talked about it and stuff, so I. I wasn't expecting to be asked about it. I guess I should have been prepared.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Can I just say, like. Like somebody said least even thinking about you that you're not a nice person is the wildest thing, because you are the nicest person that means a lot ever. And I meet people in the industry, like, in the world.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

Right.

[Amanda Hirsch]

We're not just comparing you to industry

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

people in the world.

[Amanda Hirsch]

But so that is wild. That's like when you hear something that's like just way off filter. Like, that doesn't even Make.

[Mandy Moore]

But I didn't think what was upsetting about the whole thing is, and I've said this is like this idea that we have to continually like another story that's just pitting women against each other. That women are always, we're not friends, we're frenemies and we're out to be competitive and petty and like, all the things I don't know about you, but, like, I have not felt that one iota since becoming a mom. If anything, like, the friendships that I have made since becoming a parent are the most surprising of my adult life because I, I, I just thought, like my other friends that had kids that were older than me, like, their kids are older. I thought, like, oh, those are just going to be my friends that have moms. Like, I never really contemplated the playgroups that you're in, the classes that you're in. Like, those are the people that you are bonded with.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Mandy Moore]

Like your kids start, you start seeing all the time because your kids are playing with. And those are the snickly, surprising friendships that I have made that I, I feel so close to all of these women. They're, they're, they're life giving to me that, like this misnomer, that like women can't be friends. And also, like, you need to find your community, like we all need and deserve, especially as moms, to find that. Yeah, like, I could not do that without.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Well, you know what's wild though? I think you have a quote that said somewhere, because I had it in our last interview. I was looking at our last interview.

[Mandy Moore]

Oh, wow.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And I was, we were talking about how you were a child pop star or a child making it like a baby.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

A baby or.

[Amanda Hirsch]

No, like a, you know, you were famous when you were really young. And we kind of talked about you avoiding the, like, you know, what happens to a lot of young famous people and how you didn't get crazy and didn't have crazy rumors. And you said, I just don't think I've ever been interesting enough to have crazy rumors written about me. Maybe one day, maybe one day you fucking manifested it.

[Mandy Moore]

I made a. This wasn't crazy. This was just ridiculous. And also, like, I think what was also upsetting is that friend, like Hillary and I are used to this.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Are you, did you become mom friends or were you friends before becoming mom?

[Mandy Moore]

We were friends before. Well, not before she was a mom, because she is like a 14 year old.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah, that's true.

[Mandy Moore]

But certainly before I became a mom. Yes. And like our husbands are best Friends. Matt and Taylor are best friends, which is funny because Matt is. Is. Is sneakily, like, my favorite follow on social media, by the way.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Mine too.

[Mandy Moore]

He's hilarious.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I know. It's like I'm gatekeeping him too. I feel like I've been following him for years. I didn't tell anybody, and then everyone kind of discovered. Not everyone discovered he had a big following, but I feel like more people are discovering him as the time goes on.

[Mandy Moore]

I'm, like, made his record with his wife and stuff, but he's missed the

[Amanda Hirsch]

everyone who's starting to follow him now. What did he do with Tiger Joe? Oh, yeah, he had a whole thing with her.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

You guys missed his drunken. This was the funniest thing on the Internet. Go find it. He got a vasectomy.

[Mandy Moore]

Oh, yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And he FaceTimed every love is Blind member. While he was doing. While he was. While he was high off the vasectomy drugs.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

I don't know how he is.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, I think he Instagram facetimed or whatever.

[Mandy Moore]

It was the funniest At Matt coma on Instagram.

[Amanda Hirsch]

It was the funniest thing.

[Mandy Moore]

It's personality is like, he. He is. Is, like, ridiculously funny and so witty and so smart, but he's also, like, the greatest dad, the sweetest guy. Like, yeah, he and. He and my husband are, like, best, best friends.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Are they really different? Like, is. Does your husband get, like, silly like that?

[Mandy Moore]

My husband doesn't get silly like that. I mean, maybe he can hit his group chat. I'm like, who are you talking to, babe? He's in a group chat with Matt and his brother and Christmas plats, and the four of them are just all day, maybe.

[Amanda Hirsch]

You know how many times I have right here that men are way more, like, on the phone with the friends than women? We're kind of like, turn the butt.

[Mandy Moore]

It's a buzzer off. It's like.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And they smile at their phones like they have a. Like they have a mistress.

[Mandy Moore]

I'm like, we're watching. We're watching something together.

[Amanda Hirsch]

But no.

[Mandy Moore]

So we were friends before kids, all of that. To circle back. Hillary pulled me aside. We were, like, at a hotel waiting for our cars in la, as you do. We're, like, waiting at the valet for our cars to be brought around. And she was like, can I just tell you, like, first of all, hi. We hadn't seen each other in years. And she was like, my boyfriend at the time loves your husband. And I was like, oh, my God. Like, Taylor would be so freaked out right now. And she was like, he has brought. He's dragged me to so many Dodge shows. That's my husband's band. She's like, I've seen your husband perform so many times. We have to, like, go out to dinner. It would be my. My boyfriend, and they were just dating at the time, would be so freaked out. And I was like, of course. So we go out to dinner with them. This is like, 2018, 2019. A double date. It was so much fun. We're like, we have to hang out with these. We loved them. And then we. We started hanging out more and more. And then Hillary, when they got engaged, asked Taylor to sing at their wedding, and Taylor sang for their first dance and surprised Matt with that. And we got to go to their wedding, which was beautiful. And then, like, we both got pregnant during COVID and, like, maimay is six weeks younger than Gus. So, like, we, like, we went through. She went through her third pregnancy, and I went through my first pregnancy, like, together. And so, like, I really was able to immediately lean on her.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Mandy Moore]

Like, you've done this twice before. You're on your third. Like, tell me all the things. Like, she's the most locked in, dialed in mom. And so she was the one that kind of, like, welcomed in all these other new moms during the pandemic. So, like, a baby class at her house. We, like, we started with, like, baby music class when our kids were, like, little blobs just laying on. On the grass. And it was so much fun. And so, yes, like, we have become. I have become a mom with her. And she's the best. She's the raddest.

[Amanda Hirsch]

What is it like watching her fucking explode all over again now?

[Mandy Moore]

I love it. I'm so excited for her. It's amazing. It's like, no one deserves it more. She's the raddest, the hardest worker, the best mom, the greatest friend.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Like, and seems like she doesn't know that, like, the world was, like, waiting for it.

[Mandy Moore]

I know. And that's what makes you want to root for her all the more.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah, it's like, I'm so excited. The itch.

[Mandy Moore]

No, no, no, no, no. Like, I am happy to be a bystander and witness, like, my friend take over the world. I never had a pop career like that.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Right.

[Mandy Moore]

And I never aspired to do that. Like, Hill's playing arenas. Like, I want to play a club. I want to play a theater. And I, like, I love making singer songwriter records with my husband. And, like, I don't Like, I've never had that same drive. And I am so excited for her.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Mandy Moore]

But that's not for me. No.

[Amanda Hirsch]

We'll be right back after the break.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

The favorite show of the summer is coming back in an all new season. The new cast was just announced. People are freaking out. Love Island. Love Island. Love island, usa. They had to put out a literal statement for people to be nice because

[Amanda Hirsch]

people get so crazy about the show. People get so obsessed and enmeshed with the show that we go crazy about

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

the castmates, about the relationships. And Love island is like, just watch it and enjoy it. I'm so excited for the new season of Love Island. It's starting tonight on Peacock. Okay. It's hosted by the iconic Ariana Maddox. Okay. So get your swimsuit up, babes. Your summer obsession is back. Narrated by everyone's favorite Scottish voice of the villa, Ian Sterling. A new group of sexy singles is entering the Love island villa in Fiji. Not me thinking like, that's a long flight. For the summer of their lifetime, of our lifetime. They're gonna couple up, compete in wild challenges and deal with the drama as new bombshells enter the villa. Those who don't get dumped from the villa have a shot of winning a hundred thousand dollar prize. My latest guest, Ella Bright had just told me she was watching Love island on the plane when her co star Belmont was like, what are you watching? She's like, you don't get it. Well, we get it, okay? We get it. The premiere of Love island is streaming tonight at 9pm Eastern, 6pm Pacific, only on Peacock.

[Claire Holt]

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[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

You guys know I'm always looking for destinations that feel a little unexpected. And also, you know that I love a trip that isn't too far, that I can drive, that is on my side of the world, that is on the east coast. And right now, Buffalo is at the top of my list. Okay? I've been planning a trip and the more I look into it, the more I'm like, wait, why have more people not been like, wait, have you visited Buffalo? Like, yes, Buffalo, famous for its wings, okay? But the food scene goes way beyond that. Every time I search for recommendations, I end up with a list that's too long because there are so many restaurants, so many coffee shops, breweries, and local spots people swear by. And there's so much to do. The waterfront looks incredible, the architecture gorgeous, and they have amazing art museums that have been all over my feet since I started looking into this. Plus, you're right near Niagara Falls, which

[Claire Holt]

makes it such an easy trip to

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

turn into a full weekend. Buffalo really seems to have the perfect mix of culture, food, history, and fun without feeling, like, touristy or crowded. So if you're like me and you're looking to plan a new trip that's not too far and right here in our backyard definitely put Buffalo on your radar. Learn more and plan your trip@Visit Buffalo.com.

[Amanda Hirsch]

guys, I have been obsessed with my Crocs lately. Like, I feel like crocs and I

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

go way, way back, but we're in

[Amanda Hirsch]

our, like, hottest era right now.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

I can't get enough of my Crocs.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I cannot get enough of them.

[Claire Holt]

Especially because I got these new two

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

styles that are are sick. Okay? I got the classic crafted clogs, which are made with 100 soft wash canvas.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Okay?

[Claire Holt]

So people couldn't even tell, like, you

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

wear jeans over them. They're like, oh, my God, what are those shoes? And I love that for a minute, they're like, what are they? What are they?

[Amanda Hirsch]

And I'm like, it's Crocs.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

But I also love their classic buckle

[Amanda Hirsch]

clog because it has the little holes for the jibbitz and everything like that, but it Gives a really like a

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

nice touch of elegance because of that big buckle on the side.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And I just, I love Crocs so much.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

I just feel like they're like easy,

[Claire Holt]

slip on, slip off.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

I love when I'm like going to

[Amanda Hirsch]

shoot something and I wear them with

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

jeans and like a white tank on the way there.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And then I'll change into the heelsies or whatever I need to when I'm like on set.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

But I love my Crocs.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I love to travel in them.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

I love to walk around the Upper

[Amanda Hirsch]

east side in them. I love to do school pickups in them. And I just know they're going to

[Claire Holt]

serve me well all summer. And guess what? They are so cute. They are so cute.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And they're so comfortable.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

And you can wear them all day

[Claire Holt]

long and forget you're even wearing shoes.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

Like, name a more comfortable shoe. Name Em. Anyway, don't be sleeping on Crocs, okay? I am telling you this and you know I be setting trends.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Visit crocs.com or a store near you to find your perfect pair of closet clogs. And we're back.

[Mandy Moore]

We're gonna go see her in Vegas in a couple days.

[Amanda Hirsch]

In Vegas? Mandy in Vegas. I know.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

Do you like Vegas?

[Mandy Moore]

No.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah, me neither.

[Mandy Moore]

It's not my favorite place.

[Amanda Hirsch]

So why there? Why, Why'd you choose to see your show there out of any state?

[Mandy Moore]

Is that because it's gonna be a smaller show? It's like the last little bit of like warm up shows, I think before her big summer tour.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Okay.

[Mandy Moore]

And so it'll be fun to like go with all the girls and like have a little girls trip.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, that's fun.

[Mandy Moore]

A little mom's night out. Have some spa, have some good food. Yeah, I know. You'll see, you'll get, you'll get some.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, I'm sure. I love social media content. You've been social media. I feel like your trip to New York. You've been loving the corner store. You're like, you guys, there is a

[Mandy Moore]

new spot because I'm in old. I'm an old and I live in la. Have you heard of this thing called the corner store? They have martinis there. Guys, it was the greatest martini of my life.

[Amanda Hirsch]

What was it like cookies and cream. What was that?

[Mandy Moore]

Sour cream.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Sour cream. See fatty. I'm like adding cookies to it. No, no. Sour cream martini.

[Mandy Moore]

A sour cream and onion martini. And they give you a little sidecar of sour cream and onion chocolate order the pizza rolls were great. The lobster roll was great. French Fries. We were saying. It's like, it's a real girls dinner place.

[Amanda Hirsch]

It's really fun. You know, he has a new spot, like that group the 86 and Oresh, also really good.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

Ooh, yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah. Next time.

[Mandy Moore]

I feel like we need something like that in la. Yeah, we don't have anything quite like that.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

Right.

[Mandy Moore]

But yeah, it's like, I. I sound like a dork because I come here and I'm excited. I don't live here, so I'm like, tell me where I'm supposed to go get. Like, I want, like, quintessential, not hot spot sceney stuff necessarily, but, like, I want a good food. I want, like, a good cocktail.

[Amanda Hirsch]

New York does have. I feel like you guys do it, right?

[Mandy Moore]

And also, it's like today. Yesterday was like, 85. Like, we're having some, like, a summer burst right now.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Mandy Moore]

And you, like, everyone is like lizards, like, in no clothes, just soaking it up. And I'm living for that. I love that for you guys.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I don't. Well, New York isn't meant for this weather. It's like, well, it's coming enough and we don't need the heat with the bus fumes and the light.

[Mandy Moore]

But that is summer. I know you don't like summer.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Not. Not. I. I want this weather, but, like, on a beach, I don't want it here. You know what I mean? Yeah, Yeah. I also wanted to ask you. I know the Mandy Moore. Mandy Moore thing has been done and.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

And.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And died and done, but I saw her go on a podcast and say, the choreographer, Mandy Moore, for those who don't know, and she said that it makes it easier for her to get dinner reservations sometimes.

[Mandy Moore]

Really?

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Mandy Moore]

Oh, I love that.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Mandy Moore]

That's so sweet.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Is it weird for you when you call somewhere and, like, you have such a distinct name and they're like, like, what is this for? And you're like, mandy Moore.

[Mandy Moore]

I could never do that. I could not drop my own name.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Wait, what do you say if someone is very.

[Mandy Moore]

If someone is kind enough to help me get a reservation. Procure one.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Mandy Moore]

And they have to use my name, but I couldn't. I always go by Amanda because that's my given name.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, right.

[Mandy Moore]

I just use Amanda Moore.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Amanda Moore.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah. Amanda Moore. If I have to, like.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mandy Moore]

If I have to, like, make a reservation. Hotel or something like that.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah, yeah. Because you feel weird saying it. You don't want them to get, like, too excited.

[Mandy Moore]

Not that they would get excited, but I don't know. I'm just like, that way. It's.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

What else did she say?

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, that you guys were supposed to meet a few times. Multiple times happen.

[Mandy Moore]

We saw each other at the airport.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah. That's what she said. Yep. Where.

[Mandy Moore]

Where all great meet cutes begin, right? Airport. Yeah. We saw each other on an airplane. It was great. It was like it finally happened.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Claire Holt]

Yes.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I know. Isn't it funny that us as a society, like, we're like the same name. Like, we don't know what to do.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

We leave it it.

[Mandy Moore]

Well, also, I just feel horrible that I have gotten credit still to this day by so many people. Yeah. They're like, you choreographed the ERAS tour. I'm like, guys, you re look at me. I am the world's worst dancer. That is not my skill set whatsoever. I'm like, that I choreographed it or like, oh, my God. You were on so youo Think youk Can Dance. I'm like, no, that was not me. It's insane. And like, like, I would get emails from like, like agents and stuff that were like, congrats on the Emmy Nom. I'm like, not me. That's the other Mandy Moore.

[Amanda Hirsch]

That's so funny.

[Mandy Moore]

For like, some sort of choreography. Emmy for something. I'm like, this is.

[Amanda Hirsch]

That's hilarious.

[Mandy Moore]

Poor thing.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Another thing I. I think is, like, unique, and I hope you know how unique it is. Is I saw that you said that you have, like, extremely close relationship with

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

your mother in law.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And I was like, I'm sure that you hear horror stories from your friends.

[Mandy Moore]

Like, sure. And not everybody's so fortunate.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Right. And it is kind of rare, which, like, I hope I'm not gonna be that kind of boy mom. Yeah, well, I'm not gonna be that

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

kind of boy mom.

[Mandy Moore]

You're not gonna be.

[Amanda Hirsch]

That doesn't like the wife, like, from

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

the beginning, no matter what.

[Mandy Moore]

But they're gonna love you. They're gonna be like, oh, your mom's so cool.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I'm gonna make sure of it. So I can get in the delivery room.

[Mandy Moore]

Yes.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Crazy. Of course I'm getting in there.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

That I'm not gonna be pushed out. No, no, no. Right. I love that you have a girl. I don't, but, yeah, I saw that. And I was like, I know. Like, I hear stories from my friends and.

[Mandy Moore]

Me too.

[Amanda Hirsch]

You know? So when I saw that you said that you have a really close friend.

[Mandy Moore]

I think it's also like my husband and his brother. They're both from la. They're Angelinos, like, native and so they live near us. They used to live very close to us, but post fire, not the case. But I think we. So we were very close to that. We were at their house like every day. And then after the fires, we all lived together for almost nine months.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Well, you lived with my in laws lived with us.

[Mandy Moore]

We got a big rental house and we all lived together.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Their house was also.

[Mandy Moore]

Their house burned down. Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, wow. And Taylor's brother.

[Mandy Moore]

And Taylor's brother, so. But they just had a baby, so they had to live on. They needed their own space, understandably. But I was like, let's all the rest of us can live together. So my in laws lived with us for almost nine months. And so like every morning I'd get to have coffee with my mother in law and like we'd put the kids down and get to have a glass of wine together. We also got to like grieve and heal and like process the trauma of what we lived through together. And. And I got so used to having her there that then when we moved back and she moved on, I'm like, I don't like this. I love, like, I also like the impromptu dates that we were able to go on. She's like, I got it. I'm like, wait, where does.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Are they not living next to you anymore?

[Mandy Moore]

They don't live next to us anymore. They're, they're like across town a little bit. But we're trying to get them to move back across closer to us.

[Amanda Hirsch]

She liked those date nights.

[Mandy Moore]

I loved those date nights. I mean, she still is wonderful. And we'll like, we'll put the kids down and then she'll come and like watch the monitor and let Taylor and I go have a date night still. But it was way more convenient for her when she could be in her pajamas and then like go up to her room. So I hope that like that can happen.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And you lived together for nine months?

[Mandy Moore]

Nine months.

[Amanda Hirsch]

So at what point did Hillary and Matthew take you in?

[Mandy Moore]

Right after the fires.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, that was before you got a situation going?

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah, as we were evacuating, I think. Yeah, there's this misnomer that we were like living with them and we weren't. So as we were evacuating, they had like a house that they use for work. Just like a regular like house out in the valley. And so when we were evacuating, Taylor called Matt cause they're besties and was like, we don't know where to go. He's like, go to go to this house. And so that's where we stayed for like a week. And then they very graciously let my brother in law and sister in law stay there after they had their baby. My. My sister in law was pregnant and was due six weeks after the fires. Gave birth a month early, like two weeks after the fire because of the stress. And so then they lived in that house for the first like two months of his life. Matt and Hill are the best. They're the greatest. And I will love them forever.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Let's talk about the new movie. It looks so fun. I haven't seen it yet because it's really theater movie, so I didn't get a layer movie. No problem. Yeah. But even the trailer, like, looks so fun. And this is Nate's. I'm not gonna say his last name because I'm not gonna pick it up. That's it.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

Yep.

[Amanda Hirsch]

This is his first movie and you're in it. How did it come about?

[Mandy Moore]

I'm a huge fan of Nate's. I loved all of his stand up. I think I've seen every special on Netflix and I heard through the grapevine that he was doing his first film. And I read the script and was like, I have to be a part of this. Like, it feels like a real throwback to the kinds of family movies that I loved growing up that they just don't make anymore. That like co viewing experience where like mom and dad are gonna get something out of it and the kids. And also this idea. And I'm sure you think about this too. It's like the choices that you're making. I'm like, oh, one day, like my kids will be able to see this and I'd love to do something that they would be excited about, like to

[Amanda Hirsch]

watch one of your. One of your movies.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

They could be excited about so many though, Mandy.

[Mandy Moore]

I feel like this will be the first that they'll be able to watch and like, understand.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Because it's like a fun family movie. A lot of like, humor fun.

[Mandy Moore]

Maybe the Princess Diaries in a couple years.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Tangled.

[Mandy Moore]

Tangled. They have watched Tangled. They were sort of.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Because it's your voice.

[Mandy Moore]

And I don't think they really understood that I was like Rapunzel. Kind of sounds familiar. Like, meh. Honestly, I joke that like, if I were in cars, that would have like, been a much bigger deal to them.

[Amanda Hirsch]

But what.

[Mandy Moore]

So.

[Amanda Hirsch]

So this movie, you are an entrepreneur.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Go on Shark Tank.

[Mandy Moore]

Go on Shark Tank. You.

[Amanda Hirsch]

The. Your husband Nate has to like, take

[Mandy Moore]

care of the kids.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Mandy Moore]

So I get offered a deal on Shark tank. Which means that I have to like fly to South Korea for a couple of weeks while they do some like manufacturing and he has to stay home with the kids. And of course I am a type A mom.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Right.

[Mandy Moore]

Who's acutely organized and like has everything set up for the girls. He doesn't know what he's doing and like, like Mr. Mom esque, chaos ensues.

[Amanda Hirsch]

But I'm sure Taylor isn't like that.

[Mandy Moore]

No.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

Yeah.

[Mandy Moore]

No, no, no.

[Amanda Hirsch]

He could hold it down.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Like he's home right now with the

[Mandy Moore]

kids and like my mother in law is helping and we have an incredible nanny. We have like, you know, a support team there for him. But yeah, also like he can do it. We, we're just at that phase where it's like we can like lose walking and talking. So it's like we can do all three at the same time. It was hard. There was a point there where it was like, like baby, like tiny toddler. Other Todd. Like where you're in survival mode of life. They're going to kill themselves.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Also, how do you go to the park with two at the same time? Cuz like even right now, like Lenny's, it's like swing, swing. Let's say I'm alone.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Noah wants to go on the monkey bars or whatever.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Then it's like either dividing your attention is, is challenging.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah. Especially because Lou is like, you know, you're still helping her up the stairs a little bit.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Like you have to be with her

[Mandy Moore]

and Azie and Gus. A Gus I'm not so worried about. But yeah, it's just like your head is constantly on a swivel if you're there by yourself.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Right.

[Mandy Moore]

It's tough.

[Amanda Hirsch]

But is it in this movie? Like is.

[Mandy Moore]

He can't do anything.

[Amanda Hirsch]

He can't do anything. Is he.

[Mandy Moore]

He like doesn't know how to do laundry. He doesn't. And like Taylor.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Cause the mom does it all.

[Mandy Moore]

Mom does it all. So it, it's, you know, celebrates the invisible labor that moms don't get. The, you know.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Mandy Moore]

They're the unsung heroes again, don't get all the credit for necessarily. And dads are a little clueless. But he figures it out. He ends up doing stuff his own way and things go awry. But like I. And that's, that's where the comedy lies. But I can trust Taylor. We do things very differently though. I don't know if your husband is this way. Like I will get the lunch pretty much like minus the sandwich. I'LL do that fresh in the morning. But everything else in the lunchbox is done and in the fridge at night. Night. At night, the night before. And I lay out everything for breakfast, like plates and cutlery and like the watermelon when. Like the night before.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Okay, that's crazy.

[Mandy Moore]

Not breakfast, but like the pandemic, the eggs, the. The pot for oatmeal, like all that sort of stuff. And like their plates and their water bottles and like placemats. Like everything's all ready to go.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Because it feels extreme. You're saying it as if it's. I just want to. Like, I accept you, I love you. But I'm just saying like, I feel like that's like, like the extreme.

[Mandy Moore]

I'm making my life easier so that I can wake up in the morning. Because sometimes my kids wake up really early.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

You know what?

[Amanda Hirsch]

I'm messy.

[Mandy Moore]

You're messy.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I am.

[Mandy Moore]

But you're probably a really good cook, huh?

[Amanda Hirsch]

I'm a non cook.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

My.

[Mandy Moore]

A non cook. I'm a non cook too.

[Amanda Hirsch]

You're a non cook?

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah, Yeah. I can make eggs and oatmeal. Like breakfast is my.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, that's why you're like, I gotta

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

be prepared, ready to go.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

You're like a friend. Eggs and oatmeal.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I love it.

[Mandy Moore]

It's my, it's my life's work. Yeah. But so I have that already because. Because my kids wake up really early. Do your. Are your kids up early?

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah, I remember that with you too.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

You were going through like a 4am

[Amanda Hirsch]

phase at some point.

[Mandy Moore]

There was a while there.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I remember that.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah, that. But we got through that. But I. So I like to get up and have like 30 minutes to have my coffee.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, you do that.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

That is smart.

[Amanda Hirsch]

What, you put an alarm?

[Mandy Moore]

No, I usually wake up before that. Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

So when I wake up at like

[Mandy Moore]

5:30 and no one's like kind of, you know, at least like I'm getting an indication that like we're 20 minutes away from them, like totally waking up.

[Amanda Hirsch]

That is smart.

[Mandy Moore]

I'll run downstairs. The coffee pot is like automatic, so it's ready to go. My coffee is ready at 5:30.

[Amanda Hirsch]

How do you take your coffee?

[Mandy Moore]

I put some like, you know, some like lotions and potions in it. I've started putting like peptides.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And some protein powders. You put protein powder in your coffee?

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah. So at least I know especially like before I go, that's good. Scoop.

[Amanda Hirsch]

A full ass scoop.

[Mandy Moore]

And then if you whisk it, don't even taste it.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Do you put milk?

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah. Cream? I like half and half.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, me too.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, my God.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah. Half and half.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I want to make a video about half and half and how it's.

[Mandy Moore]

And what.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And how it's underrated because people don't know what they don't know. And like, half and half is like, people. I think that people used to think half and half is like. Like fatty and like, you know, cares.

[Mandy Moore]

No, it's the only way to drink coffee.

[Claire Holt]

It's perfect.

[Amanda Hirsch]

It makes the perfect color.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And if you look at the ingredients is all I'm saying. It has less sugar, less fat, and less whatever else than regular milk. I'm just saying. And you need less of it.

[Mandy Moore]

That's the.

[Amanda Hirsch]

So you do half and half and a bunch of in it.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

Wait, and what?

[Amanda Hirsch]

Peptide BHZ 16.

[Mandy Moore]

I don't know. I think that's when you inject. I don't know what it is.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, it's one you drink. You're still the drinking one.

[Mandy Moore]

I'm in a drinking one.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Mandy Moore]

I'm. I have an elevated medicine.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Aging. Aging or skin one.

[Mandy Moore]

It's no gut one. I think it's more for gut.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Okay. I started reading about these guys.

[Mandy Moore]

I use a parallel thing too. I have, like, three scoops of things in there.

[Amanda Hirsch]

That sounds disgusting.

[Mandy Moore]

No, if you whisk it. Like, truly. If you whisk it. Not a stirring, because sometimes it gets gluten.

[Amanda Hirsch]

No, no, I like. You need a whisk. I like a whisk.

[Mandy Moore]

And then it makes your coffee, like, kind of frothy too. I love. Makes me feel good.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Do you have one coffee a day?

[Mandy Moore]

Yes.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah. Oh, that's it.

[Mandy Moore]

Sometimes I'll have a second cup, but usually decaf, but if not, then I. That's when I do like, a. Like a cappuccino or a. I might A big cortado phase right now.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, cortados are good.

[Mandy Moore]

I love a cortado.

[Amanda Hirsch]

So why can't you do a regular second one? Like it.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

You get to wire it.

[Mandy Moore]

I usually don't do a second cup because I feel like I'm like a gut. I'm old. No, no, no, no, no. I'm just like. I'm geriatric. Like, if I have it past a certain hour, it'll keep.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

You really won't fall asleep?

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Really.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

Huh.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah. Maybe it's an oppressive. And maybe I'll be awake and. And just attribute that.

[Amanda Hirsch]

You know what's crazy? One night I like, was watching TV at home. And I had this coffee ice cream in my fridge and I ate the whole thing and I felt so fat. It's so disgusting. And then I had the most horrible night. I couldn't fall asleep. And I like, posted like, oh, my God, it made me feel so bad. I couldn't fall asleep all night. And they're like, it's because you. You ate coffee ice cream and. Oh, you didn't make a connection.

[Mandy Moore]

No. I really marvel at people that can do like a full caffeinated, like, shot at dinner.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Mandy Moore]

Like an after dinner shot.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah, that's.

[Mandy Moore]

And then go to bed.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah. That's crazy. My heart is like beating out of my chest.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

The breadwinner is out May 29th.

[Mandy Moore]

May 29th.

[Amanda Hirsch]

So fun. How did you keep a straight face? Everyone's so funny in the. In the movie.

[Claire Holt]

Right.

[Mandy Moore]

I had to go to like, dark places. Yeah. I don't want to talk about. Yeah. I had to, like, really? There were a couple times where I was like this. I'm not going to be the one that breaks. I'll break after the fact.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Mandy Moore]

Someone else does. Has to go first. But it was hard. There's a lot of funny people. Colin Jost and Kate Berlant and Kumail Nanjiani will forte. Like, Nate surrounded himself with some really, really funny people.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, that's such a fun project.

[Mandy Moore]

It was so much fun.

[Amanda Hirsch]

So what else is coming up? We have the. The football show.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah. The land that. That.

[Amanda Hirsch]

That has a name now.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Does that have like a date or

[Mandy Moore]

a. I think it'll be early next year.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Early next year. Yeah.

[Mandy Moore]

And that's it. Because I went from this to. Went from the movie to that.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And then there was something we're supposed to do with like an IVF show for.

[Mandy Moore]

There's two things that are in development that may happen in the next, like, you know, for the rest of the year, hopefully. Yeah. There's like an erotic thriller with a teacher. I know. I was like, yes, yes, please, peacock, pick it up. I want to do that show so bad. It's called teach me. Yeah. A24 is producing it.

[Amanda Hirsch]

It's. Wait, A24 is. I don't know what it is, but it's chic.

[Amanda Hirsch (alternate mic or co-host)]

Okay.

[Mandy Moore]

They do the chicest, like, coolest.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Like, I want to be A24.

[Mandy Moore]

Yeah. Yeah. You want to do an A24 project?

[Amanda Hirsch]

That's what I want to do. Yeah.

[Mandy Moore]

We're putting it out there into the ether.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I want to see you in a erotic thriller.

[Mandy Moore]

Me too.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I Love that.

[Mandy Moore]

A limited series. Come on.

[Amanda Hirsch]

On. I manifest that.

[Mandy Moore]

Let's manifest it well.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Thank you for coming back. Only really special people to my heart come back.

[Mandy Moore]

I am so honored, especially considering that, like, we had our whole debacle with the, like, blocking initially. Remember?

[Amanda Hirsch]

No, I want to forget.

[Mandy Moore]

Okay, let's forget.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Let's forget.

[Mandy Moore]

Let's forget it ever.

[Amanda Hirsch]

You know that if you comment on my thing, someone's like, aren't you blocked? And I'm like, that was years ago.

[Mandy Moore]

Years ago.

[Amanda Hirsch]

We have.

[Mandy Moore]

And we have no idea and we don't know because I don't do that. But I love you and you know, I love your podcast and I listen every week and I'm just like so psyched that you wanted to have me back.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I love you anytime.

[Mandy Moore]

Love you too.

[Amanda Hirsch]

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[Mandy Moore]

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