Olympic Medalist Chloe Kim Says Silver Is Her Color

Summary

Not Skinny But Not Fat – "Olympic Medalist Chloe Kim Says Silver Is Her Color"

Host: Amanda Hirsch
Guest: Chloe Kim (Two-Time Olympic Gold Medalist Snowboarder)
Release Date: March 13, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this engaging, laughter-filled bonus episode, Amanda Hirsch sits down with Olympic snowboarder Chloe Kim for an intimate and wide-ranging conversation. Departing from the usual celebrity fare, Amanda dives into Chloe’s journey from childhood prodigy to medaled champion, exploring themes of resilience, family sacrifice, life as an athlete, cultural identity, mental health, and finding balance. Chloe’s humor, candor, and groundedness shine as she dissects the pressure of expectations, the realities of money and fame, the sting of racism, and her thriving relationship with NFL star Myles Garrett.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Chloe's Recent Olympic Experience & Medal Mindset

• Timestamps: 03:09–07:29
• Chloe talks about returning from the Winter Olympics with another medal. She addresses the outside fixation on gold over silver, revealing a distinct attitude toward "winning":
  • Color Analysis: Chloe jokes, “They actually said that, like, white gold…White metals look good on me, so I think they’re right.” (03:42)
  • On Silver vs. Gold: Criticizes journalists for framing silver as a "loss": “It’s such a stupid question…everyone wants to be so negative. Meanwhile, you're sitting on your ass hating. Being at the Olympics alone is so competitive…when you walk away with any medal, that’s such a big accomplishment.” (04:19)
  • Handling Pressure & Injury: Chloe reveals she was injured before the Olympics and had only “four days of training outside of the competition” before her event (07:17), emphasizing that every athlete’s journey is unique.

2. The Realities of Training & Injury

• Timestamps: 06:40–09:17
• Chloe shares details about the injury that disrupted her preparation:
  • Falling Unexpectedly: “It would have been so much easier if I fell and got hurt doing a trick…But, like, I fell going into the wall to the trick. So I got so freaked out, because I'm like, oh my gosh, do I not know how to snowboard?” (07:37)
  • Dealing with Injury: Dislocated shoulder, needs surgery: “It’s not a bad injury for everyday life, but if I want to do anything athletic, I need surgery.” (09:07)

3. Snowboarding vs. Skiing, Music, and Superstitions

• Timestamps: 09:41–13:19
• Chloe shares her preferences and routines:
  • Hates skiing: “Just not for me…My legs can go their own independent ways. I don’t like the pole vibe.” (09:52)
  • Snowboarding with Music: Her headphones allow her to “drop in at a certain part” of a song for her runs (11:02), “If I—the more I think, the worse it gets. I might as well just start on a clean slate.” (11:13)
  • Playlist Choices: Young Thug, Baby Keem, Megan Thee Stallion, Doja Cat, Cardi B—“I love my girls.” (11:41)
  • Superstitions: No “lucky underwear,” but “lucky white gold hoops” (13:10).

4. Family Sacrifice & Upbringing

• Timestamps: 13:38–20:57
• Honest look at the Kim family's journey:
  • Moving Out & Parents’ Sacrifices: Moved out at 18, helped retire both parents by age 15 (15:03): “My parents don’t work. I was able to retire both of them by the time I was 15.” (15:11)
  • Dad’s Risk: Dad quit job early to support her snowboarding, even amidst financial hardship and bankruptcy—“It was really dumb in hindsight…but he did it, and it worked out.” (15:35)

5. Financial Realities of Being an Elite Athlete

• Timestamps: 20:49–24:08
• Snowboarding is Expensive: “How he could afford it’s a great question…People will say I grew up with a bunch of money, but not the case at all.” (20:49)
  • Traveling on Standby: Thanks to her mom’s job at Korean Air, she could fly standby to competitions but often “slept in airports for days.”
  • Not Motivated by Money: “I didn’t know that there was money in snowboarding, and there really wasn’t…as a woman, as an Asian American…I didn’t see that, period.” (23:14)
  • First Big Sponsorship: Monster Energy at age 13; “That contract changed my life—it was six figures.” (23:59)

6. Navigating Adolescence as a Prodigy

• Timestamps: 24:35–29:57
• Homeschooling: “Started homeschooling when I was 11…[because] I was traveling so much.”
  • Isolation: “As I gained success…I was losing a sense of self. I didn’t really have friends outside of it…it made me a little depressed.” (29:41)
  • College at Princeton: Attended for a year for the experience, not the degree: “Going to college was more for my wellbeing.” (30:42)
  • Campus Celebrity: On walking into the dining hall—“The room goes completely silent when I walk in. Everyone has their phones out, filming me.” (33:33)
    • Eventually, Princeton sent an email discouraging students from snapping sneaky photos.

7. Friendship, Sibling Dynamics, and Family Support

• Timestamps: 26:23–28:50
• Describes her much-older half-sisters, their support, and family flexibility as her career accelerated.

8. Enduring Racism & Representing as an Asian American

• Timestamps: 36:52–40:22
• Facing Bigotry and Exclusion: “I dealt with a lot of racism…there’s no one that looks like me…Americans aren’t bullying girls from Asia, but me, I am Korean, but there’s an American flag next to my name.” (38:03)
  • On the Mountain: “You shouldn’t be representing us…why does she get to represent the U.S. when she’s not even from here?” (38:45)

9. Family Structure & Language

• Timestamps: 50:22–53:52
• Chloe explains her time living in Geneva, Switzerland, as a child to learn French, where she lived with her not-so-warm aunt: “My aunt just isn’t giving, like, nurturing…She called my middle sister boring and sent her home.” (51:13)
• Reveals she is her mother’s only biological child; her sisters are much older half-sisters on her father's side.

10. On Injuries, Athlete Mentality & Balance

• Timestamps: 42:46–49:03
• Snowboarding with Beginners: “If I’m not doing a trick in the air, I’m not having fun.” (43:03)
  • On Fear and Injury: “I’m not allowed to be scared. I picked the wrong sport to be scared.” (43:33)
  • On Setting Boundaries: Post-first Olympics, Chloe began to participate in fewer events per year for her own happiness, saying, “I’m just gonna do what I feel like doing…which is taking all of spring and summer off.” (48:25)

11. Relationship with NFL Star Myles Garrett

• Timestamps: 54:20–63:59
• How They Met: Through a mutual friend in the fitness/physical therapy world. First contacted over FaceTime while Myles was in Cabo: “It was so quick, like—hey, what’s up?” (59:13)
  • Instant Chemistry: Chloe describes Myles’ daily texts and their easy rapport.
  • Power Couple: “We started dating a little over a year ago.” (54:49)
  • Gifts and Support: Myles surprised Chloe with her “dream car”—a pink 1970s Bronco—after her return from the Olympics.
  • Future Goals: Both are open about wanting a family; Chloe appreciates his patience and support: “If there’s another path you want to explore, put yourself first. I’ll wait for you. And I think that’s so sweet.” (64:20)

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Memorable Quotes

• On Medals & Perspective:
  “I did what I needed to do…they actually said that white metals look good on me, so I think they’re right.” – Chloe Kim (03:33, 03:42)

• On Sacrifice:
  “My parents don’t work. I was able to retire both of them by the time I was 15.” – Chloe Kim (15:11)

• On Fame & Friendship:
  “I want to be friends with you…I don’t want to be this person.” – Chloe Kim on her Princeton experience (33:02)

• On Racism:
  “It’s hurtful because it’s something I literally can’t change about myself. Not that I want to...” – Chloe Kim (39:01)

• On Snowboarding & Fun:
  “If I’m not doing a trick in the air, I’m not having fun.” – Chloe Kim (43:03)

• On Her Relationship with Myles Garrett:
  “I found my best friend, and it’s so nice…we’re always giggling.” – Chloe Kim (62:40)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Chloe talks Olympic mindset and pressure: (03:09–07:29)
• Injury and mental blocks: (06:40–09:17)
• Family sacrifices and moving out young: (13:38–20:57)
• Financial struggles and first big sponsorship: (20:49–24:08)
• Navigating fame and loneliness at Princeton: (29:41–33:33)
• Dealing with racism and cultural identity: (36:52–40:22)
• Discussing Myles Garrett, how they met, the Bronco story: (54:20–63:59)

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Episode Tone & Style

Conversational, irreverent, and intimate—Amanda’s curiosity and Chloe’s dry wit and candidness make for a lively, “real talk with your bestie” podcast atmosphere. Chloe is refreshingly open about vulnerability, the toll of expectations, and her desire for a balanced, authentic life.

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For listeners looking for a deeply honest, fun, and at times emotional exploration into the life and mindset of a world-class athlete, this episode delivers laughter, revelation, and inspiration in equal measure.

Transcript

[Amanda Hirsch]

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. Welcome back to the Not Skinny But Not Fat podcast. I'm your host, Amanda Hirsch, and I

[Amanda's Co-host/Producer]

still can't believe that I get to

[Amanda Hirsch]

chat with some of my favorite stars on my very own podcast, where you'll

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feel like you're just talking shit with your best friends in your living room.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Surprise bonus episode day.

[Amanda's Co-host/Producer]

I'm so excited about this one. Since I already. I'm under the impression that I have a daily show. It's nice when I actually do get to do more than one episode a week. And I know I sound like none of you said it. I'm saying it. Has anyone ever been sick, taken antibiotics and on the heels of that, gotten a cold from like weather changes or whatever?

[Amanda Hirsch]

The.

[Amanda's Co-host/Producer]

Because, because hey, that's me. Like, hello, immune system, wake the up. And I've said it before, it's like people in New York or I'm sure anywhere that it's cold. Like, it's like the weather is such an issue. It's like, is it cold? It's too cold. When is it going to get hot? Now it's hot. Oh my God, we're having a 60 degree day. Let's get naked in Central Park. I try to not be like a weather obsessed person. Like, yes, I can complain when it's cold and get excited when it's hot, but I actually hate severe weather changes. Like, do not go from negative 10 to 70. Like that scares me as an anxious person. It gives me anxiety and it actually gives me like health anxiety. Like it gives me like I'm going to get sick. Like, this isn't normal. I shouldn't be wearing a face mask in fear of getting frostbite and the next day be in a short sleeve. Like that doesn't make sense. It's going to affect my body. I already know it. And it did and it got sick and then now I have a cold. So everyone. Fuck everyone. Global warming. Anyway, again, so excited to bring you another episode this week. Today's episode a little different than usual. I usually have, you know, actors and reality stars and stuff like that. But I was so interested in sitting down with Chloe Kim. She is a two time Olympic gold medalist and one of the most known female snowboarders of all time. She is just amazing. She started so freaking young. She is so cool. I was so taken with this year's Winter Olympics. Like I got so into it like everybody else. So I was just so fascinated to talk to Chloe and hear more about like just everything since I know nothing about sports, Olympic sports, snowboarding. I was like, I just went to Utah. I said it seven times in the episode Drink every time I say it. No, I'm just kidding. I think I said it once, but, like, that's my only experience with snow in that way. So I was just interested in, like, picking her brain and really, like, understanding what it means to be an Olympic athlete. And, like, I wouldn't have thought that an Olympic athlete would be as chill and as, like, dgaf. Don't give a fudge. No fucks given. Fudgeing. Cool Cali girl. So here it is. Enjoy my combo with Chloe Kim.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Wait, Chloe Kim? You're going to the Met?

[Chloe Kim]

I better be. That's the tea, you guys.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Chloe Kim is here in the fucking house right off the Winter Olympics.

[Chloe Kim]

You're.

[Amanda's Co-host/Producer]

You're.

[Amanda Hirsch]

You're. You're. And I mean, you killed it. You came off with another Olympic medal. How are you feeling?

[Chloe Kim]

I mean, good.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Just good?

[Chloe Kim]

I mean, yeah, I did what I needed to do.

[Amanda Hirsch]

She killed it home. Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

Feel good. Feel sexy.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Feel sexy.

[Chloe Kim]

You know, I got my color analysis in Korea last summer, and they actually said that, like, white gold. They say silver, but I'm like, white gold. Yeah, white gold. Like, white metals look good on me, so I think they're right.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, my God, I love that. Did you get asked that question? I saw. She's your friend, right? Eileen Goo. Who? She's a freestyle skier.

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah, her.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Her answer to the question. Did you see what she was asked at the. At the press conference? She was asked by this guy, two silvers gained or two gold laws. He was like, how do you look at it? And she. Him.

[Chloe Kim]

I mean, that's such a stupid question.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

Like, this is what journalism is now. Are you serious? Like, I feel like everyone wants to be so negative. Meanwhile, you're sitting on your ass hating. You know what I mean? It's like being at the Olympics alone is so competitive. Like, getting there is so difficult and competitive. I had to win, like, four events straight to make the team, which I did the season before. And there's so much pressure. It's stressful. You know, all everyone's talking about is the Olympics. Like, it gets in your head, and when you walk away with any medal, that's such a big accomplishment. So for that to get diminished is so stupid. Like, who cares?

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

Like, there I have a medal. Three people get a medal. I was one of people.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And, like, if you got asked that, you could have said, and I did my color analysis.

[Chloe Kim]

Exactly. I'M a girl at the end of the day, you know, beauty. I love beauty.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, my God, I wish you could have said that. Like, and silver looks really good on me. Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

Well, I'll say it in my post.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, you said white gold. Yeah. Yeah. That's super good. I love that mentality because I think, like, as a non athlete of any kind, like, I think the way we look at sports is like, okay, everyone must be like, like, winning is the only thing that matters. And like, you know, and to see, like, yes, we're competitive. Yeah. But at the end of the day, like, obviously we're happy to be here. Obviously, we're happy to even win any, any medal. It's just, like, wild to me that anybody would ask that or think that. It's like, I mean, are you. I'm sure, you know, athletes that are like, that would fucking be, like, I didn't get a gold.

[Amanda's Co-host/Producer]

Right.

[Chloe Kim]

I mean, totally. And, like, that's valid, too. But I think, like, everyone's so obsessed with winning. And when I say everyone, I mean everyone that's not in the sports obsessed with the idea of winning. And it's so stupid to me because, I don't know, I just feel like there's so much more. Like, you don't know my story. Like, you don't know where I was at when I was going into this. You don't know what I had to go through. Like, I went through some shit, you know, Like, I got injured. I had this whole plan to train for a month because that's how much prep everyone needs to go to the freaking Olympics.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Do you need a month of prep before at least.

[Chloe Kim]

At least, like, at least a month of where I can, like, lock in and really dial in my run and, like, work on the tricks, the new tricks that I learned. Like, I need time to prep.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

And I got hurt, and so I literally had no time on snow. So you know how crazy it would be for me to not practice at all when everyone else is spending the entire winter on snow. Months on snow.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

And I'm going in with my, like, four days of practice thinking I'm gonna win the damn thing. Like, that's so delusional, the fact that

[Amanda Hirsch]

you did, but you. But you exactly got a medal still.

[Chloe Kim]

Yes.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And you had. You said four days.

[Chloe Kim]

I had, like, four days of training outside of the competition. And then we had two days of practice at the Olympics. And then we had our events. We had qualifiers and events of, like, planning.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Planning this out.

[Chloe Kim]

Yes. And also, like, the way I got hurt was so stupid that it actually got in my head.

[Amanda Hirsch]

How did it happen?

[Chloe Kim]

So I was telling my therapist this, but I was like, it would have been so much easier if I fell and got hurt doing a trick, because it's, like, part of it, you know, whatever. Okay. I'm gonna fall on this, obviously. I'm like, flipping twice and I'm gonna eat shit.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Cool.

[Chloe Kim]

But, like, I fell going into the wall to the trick. So I got so freaked out because I'm like, oh, my gosh, do I not know how to snowboard? Like, can I not know how to.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Can you explain it to people that don't? Okay, like, slowly.

[Chloe Kim]

So in half pipe snowboarding, there's, you know, two walls and you do tricks on both sides. And, you know, I get five tricks in one run. Some people get six. But, like, if you go higher, you're doing more difficult tricks. You kind of run out of room to do more. So I get five.

[Amanda Hirsch]

So wait, five meaning, like, five? You're doing the thing and, like, five jumps. Oh, okay.

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Okay.

[Chloe Kim]

Like, you get five jumps.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Okay.

[Chloe Kim]

And so for me, what I'm saying is, like, it would be so much easier for me if I fell on one of my jumps.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Right. If you were doing it. And, like.

[Chloe Kim]

And that's, like, just part of the risk. No worries. But I. The way I fell was on my way to the trick, so I, like, I landed one jump and then I am going to the next because there's a little bit of travel in between. And I fell going into the next one. Super weird. Dislocated my shoulder.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Did they have to pop it back?

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Okay. But at least it wasn't like a surgery or anything.

[Chloe Kim]

Well, I do need surgery.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, you do?

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah. Like, it's not a bad injury for everyday life, but if I want to do anything athletic, I need surgery because

[Amanda Hirsch]

it could pop back. Because it becomes a thing. Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

Like, I can't golf right now. I probably can't play tennis.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Do you do those things usually?

[Chloe Kim]

Of course. I love those things.

[Amanda Hirsch]

You golf and play tennis again.

[Chloe Kim]

I'm Asian.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Like, you should know this. We love it because it's like, you have your sport. So what else do you do? Golf.

[Chloe Kim]

I mean, snow melts, baby.

[Amanda Hirsch]

No melts. That is true.

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah. I mean, if I wanted to badly, I could, like, keep chasing it, but Too old for that now.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Did you always snowboard or did you have a bout with skiing? No, no. You look. Oh, no, she doesn't like skiing.

[Chloe Kim]

It's just not for me.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And What? Like, can you explain to me there's

[Chloe Kim]

just, like, too much freedom. I don't like that my legs can go their own independent ways. I don't like the pole vibe.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Okay, I get it.

[Chloe Kim]

It's just like, I don't like to hold things.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

Unless it's my phone.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Unless it's her five pound phone.

[Chloe Kim]

Right?

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

Right.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Also, you can fucking snowboard with your phone, by the way. No, you don't.

[Chloe Kim]

I can't.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Because you listen to music. You were saying? So how do you listen to music?

[Chloe Kim]

Well, I take the case off.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, you take the case off.

[Chloe Kim]

I'll take this case off. And I have a skinny case. I call it a skinny case.

[Amanda Hirsch]

There's a system. And put it in your pocket. Yeah. And you snowboard with it. So what, headphones like AirPods.

[Chloe Kim]

Like, people use AirPods. I use the Bose SoundSport headphones, but they discontinued them.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Do they, like, wrap around or something?

[Chloe Kim]

No, they just go in. But they're Bluetooth still. They just wrap around your neck. They not. Not wrap around, but they just kind of sit on your neck. And the reason I like them is because I can, like, skip through a song. Like, with the AirPods.

[Amanda Hirsch]

You can't believe you're doing this. Mid what? Like, mid Olympics.

[Chloe Kim]

Like, before I drop in. That's why I'm always, like, doing this.

[Amanda Hirsch]

You're, like, switching a song.

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah, because I want to drop in at a certain part.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Stop. You're timing that. Like, you're thinking of a gazillion things. Plus trying to get the soundtrack to.

[Chloe Kim]

Well, I'm only thinking about that.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Just about the music.

[Chloe Kim]

If I. The more I think, the worse it gets, I might as well just start on a clean slate.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Thinking about the music?

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah. I don't want to think about my run. That sounds awful.

[Amanda Hirsch]

So what is your song?

[Chloe Kim]

What was I. I was listening to my wrist. Young Thug.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, Young Thug. Okay.

[Chloe Kim]

And I also was listening to, like, Baby Keem.

[Amanda Hirsch]

So does that get, like, what gets you the most in the mood? Like rap? Yeah. Need, like, it makes you feel like, yeah, I could do this.

[Chloe Kim]

And I also love my girls. Like, I love Meg the Stallion.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yes.

[Chloe Kim]

Doja.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

Cardi B.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Love.

[Chloe Kim]

I actually listened to Cardi B at my first Olympics. It was like the G eazy Cardi B song.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Did you ever do, like, a Britney? No, that wouldn't get you in the mood.

[Chloe Kim]

No, but when I'm not snowboarding, I listen to a lot of, like, Lana Del Rey. Brittany.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah, but Lana is in a fucking. She's not. You're not getting tricks.

[Chloe Kim]

Well, sometimes when I'm on the mountain, I'm like, I'm too amped. Maybe I need to chill. And then, like, I'll listen to Lana. And then I'm like, okay, that's not for me right now. And I have to learn this lesson multiple times throughout the season because I think I'm like, maybe I'm old enough now to appreciate this while I snowboard, because there are people that listen to, like, ballads while they're snowboarding or, like, country, you know?

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

Something more chill. So I'm like, okay, maybe. Maybe I'm there now.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Now she's not there yet. No. Do you have stuff? Because I know with athletes, like, they'll, like, see something worked, and then they'll do that. Like Lucky underwear or like, a song that you killed at that time. Do you have those kinds of things?

[Chloe Kim]

Like, kind of. But I'm also just. I don't like being too inconvenienced.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

So it's like, I like the idea of it, and if it works out, it works.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

Underwear is crazy. Like, I like.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I don't know. Why is that?

[Chloe Kim]

Like, I want clean underwear a thousand percent.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

I'm not gonna, like, rush wash them.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Like, you don't want to be dependent on something where, like, oh, I don't have that one thing. Like, you want to just know that you could do it.

[Chloe Kim]

But I do it with my jewelry. Like, I have my lucky hoops. I don't have them on right now because I don't need luck today. But, yeah, I have my, like, lucky white gold hoops.

[Amanda Hirsch]

She loves white gold guys. So what about these medals? I heard your mom, like, hides them. Yeah, to where?

[Chloe Kim]

She's like a squirrel with my Olympic medals.

[Amanda Hirsch]

What did she do with them? Why does she want them? What's the story?

[Chloe Kim]

I think she's just scared that I'm going to lose them.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, are you a person that.

[Chloe Kim]

No.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Okay.

[Chloe Kim]

Like, I'm not the clean. Like, I think I'm, like, medium clean. I let it get messy, and then at a certain point, I'm like, okay, I have to clean up, you know, so I'm, like, responsibly messy, But I also know where everything is.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Like, where would you put your metals if she didn't take them?

[Chloe Kim]

I don't know.

[Amanda Hirsch]

The hard.

[Chloe Kim]

It's in, like, a corner, and that's, like, my metal corner now. Like, that's kind of my system.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah, like your clothes chair. Yeah, your metal corner. So where does your mom Put them. Does she have a shrine?

[Chloe Kim]

I think she also puts them in, like, a shoe box in her closet. So we're the same.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Wait, is it engraved? Do they engrave it for you? Like, how does it work?

[Chloe Kim]

No, no, they're just kind of like, here.

[Amanda Hirsch]

They're here.

[Chloe Kim]

I didn't even get a box from a middle this time.

[Amanda Hirsch]

You just, like, got it, like.

[Chloe Kim]

Yes. Yeah, I just have it.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Would you freak out if, like, your mom lost one?

[Chloe Kim]

No.

[Amanda Hirsch]

You wouldn't?

[Chloe Kim]

No. I'm not really attached to stuff. I purge probably like three times a month. Just get rid of a bunch of stuff.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah. That's good.

[Chloe Kim]

Like, I don't know. I don't really hang on to the past like that.

[Amanda Hirsch]

How long have. It sounds like you. You live alone, obviously. How long have you lived? You're only 25, right?

[Chloe Kim]

I know.

[Amanda Hirsch]

So how long have you been in your own space?

[Chloe Kim]

Oh, my gosh. I moved out when I was 18. Not because, like, love my parents to death. Just, like, liked my own space.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

And they're so busy all the time, and it stressed me out. Like, garage doors opening, closing, opening, closing.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Like, you wanted quiet.

[Chloe Kim]

I'm like, oh, my gosh, I can't wait.

[Amanda Hirsch]

You got place.

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah. So I also. My parents don't work. Like, I was able to retire both of them by the time I was 15. So, like, when you were chilling.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Wait, again?

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah, 15, when you were 15, you

[Amanda Hirsch]

were able to retire both of them?

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

That's amazing.

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

But your dad left his job when you were how old?

[Chloe Kim]

Like, seven.

[Amanda Hirsch]

So he took. He took a risk.

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah. But it was going to pay off.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

Best believe it was going to pay off.

[Amanda Hirsch]

He. You think he knew that? No, no.

[Chloe Kim]

It was really dumb in hindsight, like, it was probably the dumbest thing you could do, but he did it and it worked out. Thank God.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah. We'll be right back after the break.

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[Amanda Hirsch]

And we're back. So your dad took a huge risk. Was that something you were like, I. It came from you?

[Chloe Kim]

Well, I was a baby.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

Like, I don't know what that means.

[Amanda Hirsch]

You just knew you liked snowboarding.

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah. Like, I feel like my dad was telling me that he would support me and I was like, cool. Like, I'm six. I don't know.

[Amanda Hirsch]

So how do you think. What gave him that? Like, is he that type of person? Is he, like a risk taker? Is he. What do you think made him be like, no, this is worth, like, me stopping everything, taking this huge risk.

[Chloe Kim]

I think this is where I could become really spiritual and be like, well, it was, you know, meant to be. Yeah, it was destined. I don't know. I mean, thank God. I feel like I can't even. Because if I were him and my 6 year old was like, dad, can you quit your job and, like, support me and take me snowboarding? I'd be like, hell no.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Right? Me too.

[Chloe Kim]

Probably absolutely not. Like, I need to work, you know, bankruptcy. Like, all this stuff that we went through growing up. Why would you quit your job? So it was kind of silly, but I also think valid because everyone that saw me snowboard at that age said I was really good.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Like, everyone's like, damn, dude. But so tell me if this is a stupid question, but, like, I think from what I know, skiing, snowboarding, like, that's all expense. It's an expensive sport to go rent the things you need. You need a thousand things. The outfit, the gloves. I went to Utah for the first time. I purch a mountain. It's like, oh, I need this face mask thing. Oh, it was like hundreds of dollars. So how, if you were saying you grew up in a house with not a lot of money, like, how were you. How did you get, like, introduced to the sport or were, like, around it or could afford it?

[Chloe Kim]

Well, how he could afford it's a great question, because there are people who will say that I, like, literally grew up with a bunch of money and then I'm a rich kid. Not the case at all. My dad, you know, like, did real estate for a bit. He, like, came to the States. His first job, he went to school, did, like, engineering, but like, way back then when. When no one cared and, like, it didn't pay that well. And then he did real estate, which, like, again, was kind of Rough. Back then, my mom worked at Korean Airlines at lax, so they definitely, like, couldn't afford the lavish trips and, like, all the international flights I had to take. But because my mom worked for Korean Air, we got really cheap standby tickets, so. So when I would, like, go to a competition anywhere, really, the Star Alliance, I'd always be on a standby flight. And I think we'd get them for, like, 40 bucks.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah. So. But then there would be times where, like, I'd have to take the craziest flights. Like, have three layovers, have to wait for each flight.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

There were times where I'd sleep at the airport. Cause, like, we couldn't get on a flight for a couple. Couple days.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Ugh, that's so annoying.

[Chloe Kim]

Which sucked.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

And it would also suck. Cause I would win, you know, I'd win the event. And I'm watching, like, all the kids I competed against get on their flights and go home. Meanwhile, while, like, I'm at the airport for three days.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Were you, like, embarrassed?

[Chloe Kim]

Of course.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah, I was so embarrassed.

[Amanda Hirsch]

You're like, this doesn't align. Like, I'm winning, but I'm sleeping on the airport floor.

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah. And, like, a lot of my friends also came from money. You know, I'm, like, going over to their mansions in Utah. Like, they have, like, a skateboarding ramp. Like, they have foam pits. Like, they have trampolines. They have gorgeous. They have a backyard that's big.

[Amanda's Co-host/Producer]

You.

[Chloe Kim]

You know, and I'd come home to my house, and I'm like, getting stairs was a dream of mine. Like, I wanted stairs in my house.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Cause you grew up in one floor.

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Really?

[Chloe Kim]

It's things like that.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And now that you have stairs.

[Chloe Kim]

Of course I have stairs.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And you love it.

[Chloe Kim]

No, it's annoying.

[Amanda Hirsch]

You're like, shit.

[Chloe Kim]

So annoying.

[Amanda Hirsch]

You're like, one floor is easier.

[Amanda's Co-host/Producer]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

I leave something upstairs. I'm like, no.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Was money a drive for you? Were you like, I'm going to get out of this life, and I'm going to make a lot of money and help my family?

[Chloe Kim]

Well, no, because I don't think. I didn't know that there was money in snowboarding, and there really wasn't. And there isn't really. Like, the only rich snowboarder that made a lot of money I could think of is Shaun White.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

But he also skateboarded.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Right.

[Chloe Kim]

Like, he did two sports.

[Amanda's Co-host/Producer]

Right.

[Chloe Kim]

And he was amazing at both. And I. For me, like, as a woman, as an Asian American, like, I don't know. I didn't one. I didn't see that, period. But because I didn't see, I also was like, I'm never gonna get the same opportunities.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

As anyone. So when I started doing really well and making money, I was like, damn.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Is the money in the sports from sponsorships? Yeah, that's how it works.

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

So what was your first, like, big sponsor?

[Chloe Kim]

Ooh, big sponsor. My first big sponsor was with Monster energy.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh.

[Chloe Kim]

At 13. I'm still with them.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Really?

[Chloe Kim]

And that contract changed my life.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Really?

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah. It was six figures.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Wow. And I was 13. And that's when, I mean, you said you retired your parents at.

[Chloe Kim]

So I retired my parents when I became a millionaire.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I love how you talk about it. You go, girl. I love that.

[Chloe Kim]

I feel like so many people.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I feel like so many people. It's like, you know, and it's like, fucking own it. You did it. Yeah. You know.

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah. Why not? I mean, it's such an honor and a privilege to do that for my parents. Like, they took such a big risk on me, and so to be able to get my mom out of a really shitty work environment, too, was awesome. My dad's been chilling.

[Amanda Hirsch]

He's been chilling. Is he still. So back then, he would be the one to accompany you and stuff like that? Was it, like, considered manager vibes? Like, in that world, you just wanted

[Chloe Kim]

to make sure it was safe.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

You know.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

I got on the US snowboarding team when I was 13. And at that point, like, a lot of kids would just travel alone.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Wow.

[Chloe Kim]

That didn't make my dad comfortable. Like, my parents comfortable. Because I'm a girl.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Right.

[Chloe Kim]

And so they didn't want me to get, you know, like, be put in weird situations, which is really smart of them. Honestly, in hindsight, I think back then, I was like, what the hell? Like, all my friends are traveling alone. Like, they're kissing boys. And, like, I'm with my dad.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And I am with my dad.

[Chloe Kim]

And I'm with my dad.

[Amanda Hirsch]

So until what age did he do that?

[Chloe Kim]

Oh, my gosh. Until my first Olympics, which was when I was 17. Like, basically when I was a minor, it was like, I had to have an adult with me.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah. And you're like, looking back, you're like, that was a good call. Like, I would do that for my kid.

[Chloe Kim]

A thousand percent.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah. Yeah. Because you can travel when you're, like, 14 on a plane. Like, technically it's, like, allowed, but you're in these situations. You're in hotel rooms or whatever. Yeah. And so why was it your dad that came and not your mom?

[Chloe Kim]

Because my mom was still working.

[Amanda Hirsch]

She was working. He left work before, and then.

[Chloe Kim]

Well, my dad kind of. So he also had a car wash. It's like, I won't say where because we still have it. Oh, you do? It's, like, not in the best area in L. A. You can probably guess where it might be, but he kind of had, like, some form of passive income from that. Like, he was getting rent from it, and that was, like, kind of how he brought money to the table.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

And then my mom still worked at Korean Air, and then by the time I was 15, they both started traveling with me.

[Amanda Hirsch]

So what about your sister? Because you have two sisters. You're three quarters.

[Chloe Kim]

They're older, though.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Okay.

[Chloe Kim]

They're a lot older.

[Amanda Hirsch]

How old? How. How much older than you?

[Chloe Kim]

10 and 15 years old.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh.

[Chloe Kim]

By the time I was 15, they were like.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Well, yeah, they were. The youngest was 25.

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, wow.

[Chloe Kim]

They're fine. Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

So 10 and 50. 10 and 15 years. How close are you?

[Chloe Kim]

So close.

[Amanda Hirsch]

So close. But it probably took a while. No. Because you were a baby for. For so long, so.

[Chloe Kim]

My middle sister and I shared a lot of the same interests. Like, we both love Pokemon and both loves, like, anime. Like, we love that stuff. So we actually bonded over it when I was young, and it was my oldest sister and I who didn't have a relationship because she was more of the rebel. Not crazy, but, like, she liked to party like she was in college. Like, she was dating. Like, she was busy.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

And so there were times where I wouldn't see her for years.

[Amanda Hirsch]

She's just, like, in college, and you were doing your thing, and she was. And now.

[Chloe Kim]

Now we're like, I'm super close with my oldest sister.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

How do they show up for you in this world? Do they come to. To competitions and stuff?

[Chloe Kim]

They don't come to that many competitions. They come to the. They came to the Olympics. They came to, like, my third X Games. But they're cool. I mean, I'll call them when I'm, like, beefing with my parents or something or something stupid. I'm like, yeah. Can you believe that?

[Amanda Hirsch]

Right?

[Chloe Kim]

Did this.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Right?

[Amanda's Co-host/Producer]

So.

[Chloe Kim]

So embarrassing.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Did they ever get, like, jealous over the time your parents put into you or anything like that?

[Chloe Kim]

They're not competitive people.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah. No.

[Chloe Kim]

And I think it was, like. I think they were old enough to where they didn't mind not having my parents around.

[Amanda's Co-host/Producer]

Right.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Maybe it was nice even.

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Like, let them go.

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

You know? Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

Like, they were living their own lives.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah. Luckily, I feel like if it was closer in age, it would probably be harder.

[Chloe Kim]

Totally. And my mom, you know, like, my parents did a good job checking in.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

They're like, okay, what's up?

[Amanda Hirsch]

And how proud are they of you now?

[Chloe Kim]

So proud.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah. It all worked out. Everyone's benefiting from it, too, you know.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Do they? Like, they're. I mean, they're living their own lives.

[Chloe Kim]

Of course. Yeah. But, like, you know, I always help them out, like, you know, connect them with people, even if they're looking for different opportunities. Yeah. You know, I can buy them nice things, like, for, like, birthdays and stuff. Yeah. Like, I feel like it's fun.

[Amanda Hirsch]

So when you. You did go to college, though, you got into Princeton. It's like, enough with how. Oh, yeah. Achieved you are, you know, it's like, at least, like, don't go. Go to college. Like, don't get into a good school. No, I'm kidding. But, like, you got into a Ivy League, right? Princeton is Ivy League, and you're an Olympic athlete.

[Chloe Kim]

So.

[Amanda Hirsch]

So you get into Princeton because. Why. Why did you even think to go that route? You wanted a backup or.

[Chloe Kim]

So I was homeschooled. I started homeschooling when I was 11 or 12 because I was traveling so much. I was so busy. And I think, like, as I gained success in my sport, I was losing a sense of self, too, because I was homeschooled. Like, I only knew people in the industry.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Right.

[Chloe Kim]

I didn't really have friends outside of it. I was traveling so much. Like, it made me a little depressed.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

Because just because I'm really good at something doesn't take away the humanity in me either. Like, there's still things that I have to go through that everyone else goes through.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And it just felt like, like, school, popular kids, boys.

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah. Drama. Like.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah, all of it.

[Chloe Kim]

And I just felt that my world became so small because I was then scared to tell my friends about what I was going through because, like, I didn't want the gossip to spread. Like, I was already doing well in my sport at this point, and it made me feel really alone, you know? And then, like, going to my parents about it just, you know, sometimes you don't want to go to your parents about things as a teenager.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Right.

[Chloe Kim]

So I felt like I didn't have my safe space or, like, that part of my life. And that was hard for me growing up. And so going to college was more for my wellbeing. Like, I wanted to meet People outside of my sport. I was scared, but I'm so happy I went.

[Amanda Hirsch]

So you went. Did you graduate?

[Chloe Kim]

No.

[Amanda Hirsch]

So what?

[Chloe Kim]

I dropped out.

[Amanda Hirsch]

You dropped out? How? After how long?

[Chloe Kim]

A year.

[Amanda Hirsch]

A year. So. So was it a positive experience?

[Chloe Kim]

Yes, it was. And that was part of the plan.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, you weren't like, I need to graduate. I need to do super well? No, you were like, I want to experience.

[Chloe Kim]

Well, that's the thing about Ivy Leagues, is unless you're, like, an athlete at school, they don't really have the bandwidth to, like, support you leaving. Like, I couldn't do classes online. Like, I couldn't continue my education while doing.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And you knew that? Yeah. But you still wanted to go for the experience.

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah, well, you know, I tried. I was like, maybe I'll go for a year. And then co happened, and so I was like, maybe there's an opportunity for me to, like, continue on my education while I was traveling.

[Amanda Hirsch]

But there wasn't.

[Chloe Kim]

They kind of shut it down. But the reason why I. Obviously, I didn't know that Covid was gonna happen, but I knew that I was gonna leave after my first year because that was. I was there from 2019. 2020, and then the Olympics were in 22, so I needed the two years to train.

[Amanda's Co-host/Producer]

Wow.

[Amanda Hirsch]

So you knew going into it that this is now. You're not gonna walk away with a degree. You're gonna walk away with just like a. Kind of like a check mark of, like, really, you just wanted the experience.

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And did you get. I mean, you could have gone to, like, a more fun school. No. You could have gone, like a crazy party. You know what I mean? You went to a nightly league.

[Chloe Kim]

Well, I'm not, like, a party person.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

You know, like, I feel like I'm. I am a homebody, and I. And I really liked the campus. It was so pretty. And I'm really glad I went to Princeton because the people I met there were gen. I'm sorry. Best friends with my best friends from school.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, really? Yes. Oh, that's nice.

[Chloe Kim]

So it's amazing. It's been amazing. And I really liked the professors I had. They were all so accomplished in their own right. And, like, the way all my professors taught in such a passionate way, and that made learning really fun for the year.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Was there a vibe around campus or classes of, like, who you were and, like, your success outside of. Of this?

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah. When I walked in to get my card, my id, like, all the kids were chanting, usa And I'm like, oh, my gosh, this so Embarrassing.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh my God.

[Chloe Kim]

Like, I appreciate it so much. I'm also about to be a student here. Yeah, it was actually hard the first couple of weeks because people were coming up to me asking for photos and I'm like, I want to be friends with you. Like, I don't want to be this person.

[Amanda Hirsch]

You don't, you don't want people to be like, intimidated by you.

[Chloe Kim]

And it was bad. And like, I would go to my dean of my college and essentially tell her what I was going through. Like, people coming up to me for photos. Like, me feeling really uncomfortable, people taking videos, pictures of me when I was walking to class, going into the dining hall. And I felt like she maybe didn't believe me because I am a bit of a dramatic person. But we had like an hour long meeting where I was addressing my concerns and she was like, okay, you want to grab a bite? We go to the dining hall together.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And she saw it for herself.

[Chloe Kim]

The room goes completely silent when I walk in. Everyone has their phones out, everyone's filming me. And she immediately. And I'm really glad that she saw that cause she was like, okay, whatever you need, let me know. Like, you know, you can, I can give you, like, to go boxes. Like you could take the food from the dining hall to your room.

[Amanda Hirsch]

That's not what you wanted.

[Chloe Kim]

No, it wasn't what I wanted. And I think they ended up sending out an email like, saying that that wasn't okay.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Don't be uncool. Like, be cool. Don't be uncool.

[Chloe Kim]

And it hurts me because I like, went to make friends. Yes. And so it's like, I want to be friends with all of you, but you guys are treating me weird. And that's such a shame because like, in my head I was to have so many friends when I go to school. Like, we're going to have so much fun. But funny enough, all my friends that I walked away from that experience with, like, kind of like heard my name because of the other students, but also didn't care.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

So, so funny that I naturally kind of gravitated.

[Amanda Hirsch]

But it actually makes sense because like, yes, you wanted the people who were fanning over you to just want to be your friend. But it happened naturally that people that weren't fanning over you could actually see you as like a person.

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Did that have anything to do with why you left? Or was it purely the travel and like, everything?

[Chloe Kim]

Just the travel. Like, I had to train and, you know, I couldn't have to be gone for the winters. Like, school's in session.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

But back to my friends real quick. My best friend from school. One of my best friends from school. Her name's Christian. Country girl. Like, she's from Ramburn, Alabama. Crazy middle of nowhere.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Well, that's what's fun about college. You'll meet people from, like, everywhere.

[Chloe Kim]

And our meet was there was this, like, I don't know, welcome party, dinner thing, and everyone's, like, whispering about me, talking about me. She walks up to me, points at the sour cream, and is like, is that cheese? And I was like, no. And then I walked away from that being like, oh, my gosh, that girl is so weird. Like, clearly, it's not cheese. And then we were in the same chemistry class together, and we became friends, and she was like, oh, my gosh, I thought you were such a bitch.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh. Because you were like, no.

[Chloe Kim]

I was like, no, but also, like, I was getting harassed that whole time.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And so your defenses were up.

[Chloe Kim]

So then I'm like, oh, my God. She's, like, messing with me. Like, she's, like, making fun of me, maybe.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

And she was like, no, I just thought it was cheese, and I didn't know who you were. And we, like, talked, and, like, now we're best friends. Like, that's so.

[Amanda Hirsch]

But going back to the. Being homeschooled, like, obviously, we know a lot of actors get homeschooled when they're on set. And so how do you make friends? Is it like, just in your after school activities? Yours was snowboarding a lot. Like, so you had friends from that, but you wanted friends outside of that?

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah, because, like, I started getting on every single big podium by the time I was 13, and I felt like a lot of my friends in the sport weren't there yet. And so I had a very different experience at that age, you know, where it was like, I was already doing interviews. People already knew who I was. Like, I was already, like, famous in my small world where I'd go to the mountain and people would know who I was. And there was jealousy, I think so. Like, I don't want to be like, yeah, everyone's jealous of me. But, like, I think so.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Like, maybe it was hard for them to. The friendships maybe changed a little bit, for sure.

[Chloe Kim]

And I just think, like, I just felt kind of alone because there's also difficult moments in being successful, too, like, winning events and all that. Like, people are mean to you. Like, people are hating on you publicly. Like, I'm getting cyber bullied. And I just felt like. I feel like I tried to open up about it a couple times to my friends, and I just felt like it wasn't clicking because they were like, oh, well, at least you won. And, like, you know, I didn't even make it to finals type thing. And I don't know. That felt like I got checked to, like, essentially stop talking about it. So. And then, like, if I go to my parents whining, then they're like, well, you won.

[Amanda Hirsch]

So, like, people don't get that. You could be, like, on top, but still, like, yeah. Have things hurt you? You've talked about this. Is it the. The. The racist messages that you get?

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah, Like, I dealt with a lot of racism because of. There's no one that looks like me or there wasn't back then. Unless they were, like, literally from Asia.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

You know, the Japanese girls, the Korean girls. Like, you know, the Chinese girls, but they're from. So Americans aren't, like, bullying them.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Right.

[Chloe Kim]

Me, on the other hand, it's like, I am Korean, but there's an American flag next to my name. And, yeah, I got a lot of really mean messages. And I think also growing up in America, I dealt with a lot of, like, microaggressions too, and, like, racist comments made by other people in my everyday life. So I just again, felt like I didn't have a safe space, you know, like, in my sport, I didn't feel safe because, like, people were being racist towards me online, even on the mountain. And then when I was out and about in the streets, like, same thing.

[Amanda Hirsch]

What would people say on the mountain?

[Chloe Kim]

Like, you shouldn't be representing us. Like, why would we have it? Like, why does she get to represent the U.S. like, when she's not even from here? Like, which is not true. I was born in Long Beach, California.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Right.

[Chloe Kim]

Just a lot. And I think it's hurtful because it's something I literally can't change about myself. Not that I want to, but if it's like, oh, your hair's ugly, I could change my hair.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Like, there are things that hurt. Yeah. Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

And I think also my dad always being on the mountain with me, speaking to me in Korean, just, I felt like. Kept just pushing that narrative in a way I didn't want.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Were you embarrassed when you would do that?

[Chloe Kim]

No, I feel bad for my dad. Like, low key. He caught so many strays, like, from you. Like, I'm like, so. I was so embarrassed by him for so many reasons. And I just feel like that one wasn't fair.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And now it's like, when you grow up and you realize how much this person has done for you, and blah, blah, blah, you feel bad. You feel bad about it. And also, probably now you. I'm assuming, you own so much more

[Amanda's Co-host/Producer]

of who you are, right?

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah. Like these. Everyone, dad screaming Korean on the mountain. Is that how you feel now?

[Chloe Kim]

Totally.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

I know. It's so funny because I feel like my dad got made fun of for the things that he did. Like, he would follow me down the half pipe, like, in the middle, and, like, yell. Not yell at me, but, like, yell things so that I could focus on my training and, like, things to pay attention to while I was snowboarding. And, like, people get so mad that he'd do that. But now when you go, so many parents are doing that where they're, like, following their kid down the middle and, like, yelling at them.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

So I don't know. My daughter.

[Amanda Hirsch]

He set a precedent.

[Chloe Kim]

He did.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Does he know how to snowboard?

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he got double knee replacement surgery, so.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Not because of an injury, because of it.

[Chloe Kim]

He's just old. My dad's 70.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Only 70 now. Because you were saying somewhere, I think that your. Your mom is young. Had. Had, had. You had her kids young, right?

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Because I think I saw you were talking about wanting to be a young mom because your mom was a young mom.

[Chloe Kim]

My mom had me when she was, like, 27. 28.

[Amanda Hirsch]

27, 28. So your dad was. Is older than her?

[Chloe Kim]

My dad has 16 years on her.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

My mom's 54.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Okay.

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And how's she doing?

[Chloe Kim]

Great.

[Amanda Hirsch]

She snowboards. Yeah, everyone does. Like, your sisters, Everybody.

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah, we all learn together.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Okay. Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

I mean, my oldest sister, Tracy, she loves snowboarding. Like, her and her husband go all the time. They're always asking me for stuff, and I'm like, gear. Yeah. They're like, oh, like. Or even just, like, passes to mountains.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, okay.

[Chloe Kim]

So, like.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Like, you have them. Like, you could just hook it up.

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Ye. Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

But they always have a blast snowboarding. My middle sister, Erica, she doesn't as much. I'm trying to remember if she skis or snow. She doesn't like it, though.

[Amanda Hirsch]

When I. I went, like, I was telling you, for the first time. I literally skied for the first time now. Sundance in Utah. Oh.

[Chloe Kim]

Like, recently, like.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yes. I got in skis for the first time in my life, and I saw people doing, like, snowboarding for the first time in their lives, and I felt so bad for them. I feel like snowboarding for beginners is harder than Skiing for beginners, right?

[Amanda's Co-host/Producer]

It is.

[Amanda Hirsch]

They were eating every second. Like, I thought I've envisioned myself being on my ass, and I was like, with skis, I'm not on my ass. Like, I. I stayed upright. Yeah. And these snowboarding people were flipping over. Do you have to do that like that? It probably looks so classy on you when you fall. Like, you get up probably so effortlessly.

[Chloe Kim]

Aesthetically, 95 of the time, you fall on our butts.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

So it's just like, oh, that's so annoying. You slide and get up and you're

[Amanda Hirsch]

fine, and then push yourself up like that.

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah. You just, like, kind of use momentum and get up.

[Amanda Hirsch]

So when was I seeing people, like, flip over? Well, also, like, they don't know what they're doing.

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Can you snowboard with, like, beginners?

[Chloe Kim]

No.

[Amanda Hirsch]

No. Like, if you're going for fun, I mean, you're going for fun. It needs to be, like, on your level.

[Chloe Kim]

I don't know if I can. Like. Like, my fun is different. They're fun. My fun is, like, if I'm not doing a trick in the air, I'm not having fun.

[Amanda Hirsch]

You're not having fun anymore. Like, the threshold is high. Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

I need some form of adrenaline.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And the. The. The. The fear of injuries. Is that real for you? Like, do you. Are you scared to get hurt?

[Chloe Kim]

No, no, no. Because it happens.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

You know, like, that's a question I asked a lot. Like, how do you. How are you not scared? Are you not scared? Like, I'm not allowed to be scared. I picked the wrong sport to be scared.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

You know, like, if I was scared and I let that conversation even happen in my head, then I.

[Amanda Hirsch]

You would be paralyzed.

[Chloe Kim]

I should stop. Like, I'm not gonna get anywhere.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Did you see the Lindsey Von situation in the Olympics? I saw she was cheering you on, too, on Instagram.

[Chloe Kim]

I love Lindsay. I actually called her the other day, check in on her, see how she was doing.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

How would you feel seeing that. That she was, like, doing everything, Come back after her injury? I mean, hers was a little worse than what you went through, but, yeah, you know, she did the same thing as you. Came back after an injury, and it didn't go well for her. Did you feel how. I mean, we all were?

[Chloe Kim]

Like, I know it was so hard to watch because I adore her, and she is such an iconic figure in alpine skiing. And, you know, I think, like, I also. It made me sad because I knew the minute it happened how mean people were going to be to her other

[Amanda Hirsch]

people would be like, you fucking did that?

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah. And take away from all the incredible things she's been able to do since she came back out of retirement to do this, I don't have. Like, my ACL is 85% torn. Like, I barely have one, too.

[Amanda's Co-host/Producer]

Really?

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah. And it's been like that for 10 years.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Do you feel it on a daily basis?

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah. Like, when I walk, my leg will give out.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

But it doesn't hurt. That's the thing. And I think, like, people like Lindsay and I maybe pain. Like some people do it, and it's so painful, and it's so. Like, it's really, really bad. But some people, it doesn't really bother them. There's so many snowboarders, so many skiers that do their sports without ACLs. So I get why she did it.

[Amanda Hirsch]

You get why she. You related to that. Like, you could see yourself doing that, too.

[Chloe Kim]

100.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah. And I think that it sucks is that. That that happened. It seems like what happened to make her fall that way was such a freak. Small mistake. But they're going so fast, too. I don't know. It's just. Sometimes it just sucks. And sometimes there's no explanation for why things happen. And, like, you just have to deal with it and move on. Same for me. I'm an amazing snowboarder. I fell in the flat bottom, just like, riding to the snowboarding to the next wall. That's how I did my shoulder.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

No, stupid. That is.

[Amanda Hirsch]

So you were saying you were spinning about that because it was like, a stupider. Yeah. Way. Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

It's so dumb.

[Amanda Hirsch]

How do you deal with, like, the spiraling about things?

[Chloe Kim]

I mean. No.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

Definitely not.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

I also get so anxious before being on snow.

[Amanda Hirsch]

You do?

[Chloe Kim]

Like, I get anxious when I'm not. When I'm home and I'm like, the season's about to start or something, I

[Amanda Hirsch]

get even, like, picture what it feels

[Chloe Kim]

like because I'm like, oh, my gosh, what if I suck at this all of a sudden.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Lost your mojo?

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah, all of a sudden. Like, I was just lucky this whole time, and I just lost it all.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Well, how. First, I love that you say, like, on snow. It's so cool. So when you're not on snow and you're home, how long does a stretch like that go of? Like, I'm. You're just living your life. Chilling.

[Chloe Kim]

So when I was growing up, I. There wouldn't be much time. Like, I would maybe have a month off every year, and I'd Always be on snow. But after my first Olympics, I feel like, for me, I kind of was like, all right, I won this thing. Like, I did it, so now I'm kind of gonna do it my way. That makes me comfortable, because I was also really unhappy training so much. Training so much. Not having a life, like, being depressed, not having friends. Like, all of it. All of it. All of it. I love shopping, you know, I love being home. I love the warmth of California. Like, I love my routine. There's. And being away so much also made me so angry, you know? And I also hated that, like, even now, after this Olympics, the first thing people ask is, like, all right, so are you ready for the next one? I'm like, dude, we just got back. Like, I'm not.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I don't care.

[Chloe Kim]

You know, how much can change in four. We have four years. Why are we talking about this right now?

[Amanda Hirsch]

Right.

[Chloe Kim]

This is, like, so silly to me. And. But that's how it felt, like, every season, too. And also, when I first started doing a big competitions, there were so many events. It was like, seven, eight a year. Imagine, like, doing eight events a year, training on top of that, having a month off, and people like, we're gearing up for the next.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah. Like, what are you doing for that? It's like, I just want to chill.

[Chloe Kim]

Like, I. I'm still sore. Yeah. And I'm going back into the next season still sore and exhausted and, like, hurt from the previous one, and that was my life. So after my first Olympics, I was like, I'm not doing that anymore. Like, I'm just gonna do what I feel like doing, which is taking all of spring and summer off. Pretty much.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

And then, like, I'll get back in snowboard shape for the fall and, like, start training in the fall.

[Amanda Hirsch]

What does snowboard shape mean?

[Chloe Kim]

Just, like, I don't know.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Thinking about working out more, but if there's no Olympics. And are you still doing the other competitions?

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Are you choosing them more carefully?

[Chloe Kim]

Like, so I only do, like, three or four events instead of eight.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

And it was just good. Better for me, like, you know, am I missing out on, like, some opportunities by not doing everything? Absolutely. But it's that or, like, I want to stop doing it together.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I feel like that's so good that you can listen to yourself and know your limits and. And find the balance in your life, you know? Because then, like, what are you doing? You know?

[Chloe Kim]

Nothing. Miserable.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah. You need to do it, like, your. Your way.

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I'm glad you Find your way.

[Amanda's Co-host/Producer]

Did you.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Do you get any pushback? Like, your parents coach it? Like, there anyone to tell you, like, do more. Do you have a coach? How does it work you?

[Chloe Kim]

I do. I've had the same coach since I was 14, I think. I didn't get, like, pushback per se, but I got, like, concern in the beginning because it wasn't, like. It wasn't really a thing.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

To not do every event.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Right.

[Chloe Kim]

Because also, back then, like, winning the Crystal Globe was such a big deal, and it's, like, good for the team. So, like, be a Crystal Globe winner, which means that you were ranked number one after the entire season. So, like, you rack up points each event. And so, like, me removing myself from being a contender for that was, like, kind of a concern. But, I mean, I was just like, okay, or I'm not gonna do this anymore, and you don't have me anymore, period.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

So, like, pick and choose what's better for you. And I think now, like, a lot of people are starting to not do every event because they're like, what's the point? It doesn't matter.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Like, and it wears you out.

[Chloe Kim]

It's exhausting. I actually lived in Geneva for two years growing up to learn French and learn French.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Or is there. Are there mountains there?

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah, there's also mountains there. But the main purpose was for me to learn French.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Really?

[Chloe Kim]

What.

[Amanda Hirsch]

What. What age did you do that?

[Chloe Kim]

Eight to ten.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Who? Okay, how does this come about?

[Chloe Kim]

So we need her.

[Amanda Hirsch]

We need Chloe learning French immediately.

[Chloe Kim]

Okay. Okay. So my parents actually met in Switzerland.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh.

[Chloe Kim]

And my dad lived with my aunt, his sister, in Switzerland, like, before my parents met. And so that aunt still lives there. And my dad did this with all my sisters. Like, he sent my oldest sister to Switzerland to learn French. I think she came back six months later because she hated it. And my aunt also, like, hated it because my aunt, she hated it.

[Amanda Hirsch]

She hated her. And I'm just like, yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

Like, my aunt workout. My aunt just isn't giving, like, nurturing. I'll take care of you. Like, I love kids vibe.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

She's giving. Like, I'm a little grumpier. Like, I don't like.

[Amanda Hirsch]

So when you guys were shipped there for two years, it was solo.

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah. So solo. So older sister went for six months, came back. Then my middle sister, who my parents thought she would have a better shot at going because she's, like, a lot really quiet, reserved to herself, doesn't do too much. But then my aunt kind of called her boring. Said, like, oh, she's so boring. And then sent her back after a year.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And you.

[Chloe Kim]

So then me, with me, my dad was like, do not send her back. Like, you are not allowed to send her back.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Sending an eight year old for two years, it's kind of. It's like not conventional.

[Chloe Kim]

No. So, yeah, I stayed the whole time. I went to, like, a language school first to learn the language, and then after my first four months there, I was fully fluent and so I was able to, like, go into school.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Did you stick with it?

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah, I try to keep it. I mean, it's hard. In the States, no one really speaks French.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Right. But did your parents come visit often?

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah. So the thing was, was my one parent would come each month.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, each month. Oh, that's good.

[Chloe Kim]

With our standby tickets, you're like.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And don't you forget how we don't

[Chloe Kim]

forget fucking with our standby tickets.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I love it.

[Chloe Kim]

But I say that because it would be kind of annoying because I'd get so excited for my mom to come because I love my mom. She's my best friend. And I'd be like, waiting for her after school to come and. And then my own would be like, oh, she's actually coming tomorrow because there were no seats. And the next day be like, oh, like my mom's coming. And be like, oh, no. Like, there was a cancellation, so there was a lot of that.

[Amanda Hirsch]

It's so interesting that your Korean parents had this important thing that they wanted their girls to learn. French. Yeah, right.

[Chloe Kim]

I think so.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Korean. You already. You speak fluently?

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Anyway.

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah, I think they, like, are very opportunistic in that way. Like, if they see an opportunity for us to gain something, they're all for it. And so, like, having a relative in Switzerland where, like, I could learn from

[Amanda Hirsch]

a relative that has. Wants nothing to do with kids who hates, like. But we want our girls speaking French.

[Chloe Kim]

Yes. My aunt hated me for sure.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Really? Like, you think out of the three of you, you were the. You were her least fave.

[Chloe Kim]

I was funny, so I think she was like.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Like, you gave a little sass.

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

On, like, boring middle sister.

[Chloe Kim]

Right.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Which is unconventional for a middle sister. Usually middle sisters are like, spicy.

[Chloe Kim]

So they're my half sisters.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, okay.

[Chloe Kim]

So I feel like we kind of started fresh with me. Like, I was a whole new breed.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, so you're the only.

[Chloe Kim]

I'm my mom's only child.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, really?

[Chloe Kim]

Biologically, yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

But you all grew up in the same house.

[Chloe Kim]

Ish. I mean, they're older, so, like, by the time I was five, six. My.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Right.

[Chloe Kim]

She was already in college.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Right. But they're your dad's daughters.

[Chloe Kim]

Yes.

[Amanda Hirsch]

So they would be living with their mom. No, no, no. With your dad. Yeah. Oh, that shows what a. What a great daddy is.

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Well, we have to before. I can't believe we're almost done, but we have to talk about boyfriend. Yay. Miles.

[Chloe Kim]

I love talking about.

[Amanda Hirsch]

She's like, fuck snowboarding. Let's talk about Miles.

[Chloe Kim]

No, that's like, I've been talking about sorting so over it.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I'm sorry.

[Chloe Kim]

No, I'm not over it.

[Amanda Hirsch]

No, she's out. She's over it.

[Chloe Kim]

I'm not over it.

[Amanda Hirsch]

But, I mean, everyone's freaking out about this power couple that you guys are. You and Myles Garrett, who won the NFL Defensive Player of the Year.

[Chloe Kim]

I know.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And you're an Olympic medalist. I mean, you're power coupling right now. How long has this been going on?

[Chloe Kim]

We started dating a little over a year ago.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Okay. That's a long time.

[Chloe Kim]

I know.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

We did it. We made it.

[Amanda Hirsch]

You made it over a year. Did you celebrate the one year, Annie?

[Chloe Kim]

No, because it was when I was at the Olympics. Honestly, this anniversary, we're like, whatever. Like, we'll celebrate the next one.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

Properly. Because we were both so busy. And it was sad because, like, I wanted to be there when he won Defensive Player of the Year. I wanted to watch him be at the game where he, you know, broke the record. And I went to the two games before that because he was teetering for, like, four games where he just needed one more to break the record. So I, like, went to the two before he did it, and he didn't do it there when I was there. And then I couldn't make it for the NFL honors because I was cleared to snowboard. So I'm like, I need to train.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

So I was training in Switzerland for that, and he wasn't there for our anniversary because he was still at NFL honors for our anniversary. So, yeah, we didn't get to celebrate anything this year.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah. But how. How did you meet?

[Chloe Kim]

We met through our friend. We had a mutual friend. He actually, like, is in charge of kind of staffing our teams, like, in the health, like, fitness space. So he, you know, like, connected Miles with his physical therapist, his training, all that. He did the same for me, and I was in. And. But his. He's a physical therapist himself, but he, like, you know, is really good at other things, too. So he came with me to X Games 20. Oh, my gosh what year is it? It's like, a year and a half ago.

[Amanda Hirsch]

2025?

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah, 2025, I think. Yeah. Came to X Games with me that year to do my physical therapy, and I was kind of venting to him. I was like, I can't date anymore. Like, I'm done. I'm just gonna be single forever. Like, I was so. I was being so dramatic. I was like, I'm gonna get a sperm donor. Like, I don't need a man. I just want kids. And, like, I'm gonna live happy and free. And I've known him for a long time. Like, we met in 2018, me and my. His name is Vinny. So Vinny and I met in 2018. And so he knows me. I'm like his sister. He's like, you're literally so dramatic. Like, shut up. And he was like, well, what do you want in a guy? I told him. I was like, oh. Like, I want somebody that's tall, handsome, kind of close with their family, and I want somebody that's, like, equally as successful as me, if not more. Like, that's just what I was like.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Did you deal with a lot of, like, guys that couldn't handle your success?

[Chloe Kim]

I think so, yeah. I mean, I can't give that. Like, no one's gonna say that out loud and upfront. Cause I. But I think there was, like, a weird dynamic shift where it's like, I have my own house that I bought when I was, like, 21. And it's like, I have all these things, and I'm always busy and people know who I am, and it's like, I have followers on Instagram. Like, I don't know. All these little things I feel, like, added up, and then in turn, it was just hard. And also, I just felt like they didn't understand what I was going through either.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

So that's why I wanted all of these things where I'm like, I just want someone to not be intimidated by me and my success, because I don't carry myself in that way either. Like, I'm not looking at you being like, oh, you suck. Because, like, I'm better than you.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Right.

[Chloe Kim]

Like, I'm trying to be respectful myself and, like, like, you as a person. But I feel like that's not being appreciated and, like, I'm kind of catching strays for no reason. So I was just so over it, and Vin goes, oh, my gosh. What about Miles?

[Amanda Hirsch]

And did you know him?

[Chloe Kim]

No. Oh, I don't watch football.

[Amanda Hirsch]

So. Do you now?

[Chloe Kim]

I watch Him.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Okay, but you get it. Does he. Did he explain all the things?

[Chloe Kim]

Okay, I feel bad, like, for his friends and his team, because at all the games, I was like, wait, what does that mean? I'm like, wait, where is Miles? Like, I'm like, where is.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Like, I just want to watch him. Yeah, do.

[Chloe Kim]

What is he doing? They're like, oh, well, he's not on right now because offense. And I'm like, oh, oh, wait, what does that mean? Like, I have no idea what's happening. But I was like. I was, like, reluctant because. I don't know, I was, like, scared of dating an athlete. I don't know why that never crossed my mind. But, like, I never dated another athlete. And so we.

[Amanda Hirsch]

He thought of him for you for some reason. Yeah. Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

And so I was like, okay, like, I'll talk to him real quick. Like, I'm bored anyways. I'm in Aspen doing nothing. I already did my shop.

[Amanda Hirsch]

What do you mean? I'll talk to him real quick. Like, get him on the phone.

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah, so Vin's like, okay, cool. Like, let me FaceTime him because Miles was in Cabo at the time.

[Amanda Hirsch]

You cold FaceTimed him.

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah, well, Vinnie called because, like, even was like, okay, I might as well call him because I need to talk to him about, like, a couple things to work related. So, like, okay, let's just, like, do this and you guys can meet. And it was so quick, like, hey, what's up? He's like, hey, let go. Like, in Cabo, I heard. And he's like, yeah, I'm talking, like, super small talk. I get off the phone, I'm like, okay, well, I have to go to practice because X Games coming up. Like, I'll talk to you later. And then Vinnie gave him my number, and it wasn't, like, a big enough conversation to where I thought he was, like, gonna reach out to me after. I was like, oh, whatever. He's just like, whatever, one and done. I'm never gonna hear from this man again. After practice, he texted me. He's like, hey, how did it go? It's Miles. And I was like, like, do I have really low standards? There was that. Sweet.

[Amanda Hirsch]

You're like, is the bar low or is he the nicest guy I've ever met?

[Chloe Kim]

And he's texting me every day since then. Oh. Like, after that, we were texting so much. Having so much fun texting. And then he'd be like, okay, going to bed. Good night. Next morning. Good morning.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Before you even had FaceTime, like, right

[Chloe Kim]

after, we'd, like, FaceTime.

[Amanda Hirsch]

No, like, actual FaceTime. Like, meeting.

[Chloe Kim]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Like, you were texting, and he was

[Chloe Kim]

texting me every day. Good morning.

[Amanda Hirsch]

So when did you get to meet?

[Chloe Kim]

So after that trip, I went home for a bit because I had, like, I had the month off, I think, from competitions. So I went home for a week, like, saw my friends, and then I went to Dallas, which is where he lives in the off season. I went to Dallas for a weekend. I brought my best friend, booked myself, like, a nice hotel room because I'm kind of like, I've never done this before where I've, like, flown out to meet somebody.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

But I was like, I'm gonna pay for everything I want. No strings attached here.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Was he offering, like, I'll pay for your this or that. Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

But I was like, no, don't do that. Like, I don't want to feel like I owe you anything. Like, I don't want to be weird. I feel weird about that. But in case we don't get along, I have my best friend. We're in Dallas. I'm gonna stay at this gorgeous hotel and, like, have a blast, you know? Either way, it's a win win, you know? And we met. He picked me up, and, like, he was so shy. I always make fun of him. Like, you were so shy. But we had so much fun. That whole weekend was so fun because then, like, my best friend really connected with his best friend. Like, they were having so much fun. Like, I knew his physical therapist, too. His name's John as well. Same as my physical therapist that travels with me. So it was funny. But we all just had so much fun that weekend. And that's when it just clicked. I was like, okay, I think I like him a lot. And then a week after that trip, and that was so quick. It was only, like, three days. And then he came out to LA to see me for, like, two weeks after that.

[Amanda Hirsch]

So how do you make it work now? Like, is it constant back and forth?

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah, it's. It was a lot of back and forth for me in the fall, like, when football season started. And, like, even during the summers, I would go out a lot more because I wanted him to prioritize, like, his health and, like, his body before his really aggressive season.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Right.

[Chloe Kim]

So I went out a lot, and then during my season, he came out to see me. So we always make it work.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Are you thinking ahead? Are you like, this is my guy, whole life? Oh, yeah, Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

I mean, it's so easy with him. Like, it's. Everything is so easy, you know? Like, if you're around us, we're always giggling. Like, we have all these inside jokes. Like, we have the same sense of humor. We love the same things. Like, we're always cracking up. And I found my best friend, and it's so nice, you know, we like the same things. Like, we travel the same way.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Well, he was so cute, the way he showed up for you with the jacket and the. The Bronco he got you for your birthday. Were you surprised that made so much, like, noise and headlines and everything?

[Chloe Kim]

Oh, I was surprised about the car. I wasn't surprised about, like, the noise.

[Amanda Hirsch]

You were surprised about the car?

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah. Cause I got home from the Olympics, and I'm, like, disoriented because I just traveled for 15 hours and come home, and I'm like, what is that? It's like a pink Bronco. I'm like, wait, it's pink. It's pink.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Is that your vibe?

[Chloe Kim]

So when we first started dating, he asked me what my dream car was, because I love cars.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Chloe Kim]

And he was like, what's, like, a car that you would just love to have? You know, it doesn't have to be super nice or anything, but, like, any car. I was like, I love the idea of having a pink Bronco from, like, the 70s.

[Amanda Hirsch]

He got you that?

[Chloe Kim]

And it was in my garage.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Are you embarrassed to drive it?

[Chloe Kim]

No.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Okay.

[Chloe Kim]

I'm just waiting for it to stop raining in L. A.

[Amanda Hirsch]

No, because it's, like, all eyes on you when you're with that on the road.

[Chloe Kim]

And they better be. It's gorgeous.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I love that. Is he. Does he know that you. Do you have the conversation? Because I know you said he wanted to be a young mom and everything.

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

You have those convos.

[Chloe Kim]

Of course.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I love that.

[Chloe Kim]

I mean, he's such a good guy, you know?

[Amanda Hirsch]

How old is he? 30. 30.

[Chloe Kim]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Okay.

[Chloe Kim]

But I think, like, he's so supportive of anything that I want to do, too.

[Amanda Hirsch]

You're like, so when I tell him I want the ring. I got the ring.

[Chloe Kim]

No, but it's even because he wants kids, too. Like, he wants to. He wants a family soon, too. But he's always been like, you know, but if things change and for some reason, like, you want to do something else or if there's, like, another path you want to explore, like, please put yourself first in that sense. Like, I'll wait for you. And I think that's so sweet.

[Amanda Hirsch]

He's so sweet. He's so sweet. Well, we all ship you so hard. Thank you so much for coming today. I'm not going to ask you about the next Olympics. That's not on my list of questions.

[Chloe Kim]

Don't ask me. I'm not.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Thank you for coming.

[Chloe Kim]

Thank you.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Thank you guys so much for listening to this episode of Knott's Skinny But Not Fat. Follow me on Instagram at Not Skinny But Not Fat. Subscribe to the podcast so you don't miss any episodes. Rate the podcast that you love so much on Apple Podcasts and write a little review. If you tell me you did, I'll give you a big virtual smoocharoo. Thank you guys so much for listening and I'll see you next Tuesday.

[Chloe Kim]

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