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The following podcast is a Dear Media production. Welcome back to the Not Skinny But Not Fat podcast. I'm your host, Amanda Hirsch, and I still can't believe that I get to chat with some of my favorite stars on my very own podcast, where you'll feel like you're just talking shit with your best friends in your living room. Hey, guys. Happy Tuesday. Welcome back to another. The episode of Nuts couldn't even out that. I'm your host, Amanda, and I am on the other side of having strep, which, let me tell you, strep throat as an adult was just an insane experience. I swear, I'm not a complainer. Like, I will handle it, you know, And I wasn't handling it. I cried. Like, I feel like when you can't swallow without feeling like you're swallowing knives, plus feeling like your head is gonna actually fall off, like, if my throat didn't hurt at the same time, I would think that. And the way my head was hurting, I would think, like, I'm having something. An aneurysm or an embolism, I don't know. But I'd go to the hospital, but because it was with the throat and I knew it was all kind of connected, I didn't freak out as much. But it's just awful timing. Husband is broken butt, which I don't know if I've talked about on here, but literally, the man went to buy pizza and fell on the way in or out. I can't remember if he actually got the pizza. And I was so, like, cry wolf. Like, I was like, okay, spraying, you know? And I was like, you don't need a doctor. Like, elevate. Put ice. And then we went the next day, and they were like, yeah, he broke it. And I was like, it's hairline fracture. And they're like, no, not hairline. Like, okay, the pit. Like, where'd you bring hairline from? Surprisingly, he's doing much better than I would think that he would do with an injury. As we know. As we know. Not milking it, like, but it is. It was. It was a lot on me while I was sick because, like, it happened at the same time. And, like, he can't pick up Lenny with a broken foot. He couldn't walk Leo with a broken foot. Now he can. He got out of the crutches, and he's in the boot, so he can. But it was a rough, rough few days, and I realized, like, I don't have enough help around me. Like, everyone was shocked that I, like, don't have a dog walker, you know, and that we, like, walk the dog. You know what I mean? I was like, should I have like, an, like, a dog walker, like, for situations like this? You know what I mean? So as rough are you ff? It was very, very rough. Thank God for antibiotics and being on the other side of it now. But adult strep I do not recommend. And if you do fear you have strep, run to the fucking doctor so you can get on that antibiotic co wick. Meanwhile, as both of these things are happening, my sister Arielle had her baby and I couldn't be there, which, like, sucked. Obviously, I couldn't be there because I had shred. But, like, my family is extra crazy with that. Like, even if you have a cold, like, you'll be banished for a while. Like, we're still in covet quarantine times, so I'm like, I'm never gonna see this baby. So, like, not only was I not in the hospital, I was having FOMO. I was on FaceTime the literal entire time. Like, I'm shocked. They, like, kept on answering my FaceTime. But not being there for my little sister really broke my heart because she's my little babe and she had a babe and watching her, you guys, like, for my third baby peeps. For the contemplating third baby peeps. Oh, my God. This is putting me. You know, like, when you're contemplating a baby or another baby, there are things that put you, like, on the yes track or on the no track. This put me on the no track. I was like, you know, after I did go to visit her, even after FaceTime, I, like, looked at Lenny so happy that he's, like, on the way to being two, you know, and that he's, like, big and he eats and he's not five pounds, and. And I don't have to breastfeed and I don't have to pump and I don't have to wash. I mean, he still does take a bottle, like, but, you know, the parts and the pump parts and the. Oh, my God. And my sister had a C section, so she's, like, recovering and looking at her in pain. And I'm like, what the is this? How do we do this? So anyway, here for you, babe. No, but really, it's a crazy thing to go through. And it's crazy to see, like, when you see when you really take a minute and you're like, a woman carries a baby for nine months, goes to the hospital, goes through either, you know, a vaginal delivery or a c section is literally, like, ripped apart either way, then is trying to, like, be put back together while figuring out for the first time how to feed her baby because the baby's life depends on it. While, like, not sleeping for the first time in your life, that kind of lack of sleep, I. I just. And then you're going home. It's like, bye. That was cute for you in the hospital. Gives me anxiety, honestly. But. But looking back, like, my sister, like, it's wild how in my family, like, I'm considered chill, you know? Like, it's shocking. I know, but it's like, I'm considered chill. I know. Is it somebody. I mean, maybe you guys think I'm chill too. Like, to me, I'm not chill. But even, like, my sister's like, I wish I. Because. Because I was pretty chill. Like, I. I take things pretty as they come. I think that's my, like, defense mechanism. That's my. My way of survival is, like, you got to take things as they come because if I know where my head's gonna go. Yeah. My sister is a little, I would say more rattled up than I was with the situation. She's more of a worrier. So I'm really hoping she gets through this newborn phase unscathed. Anyway, you know, this does transition well into my guest today, because my guest today has a new movie out where her motherly instincts, you know, kick in. She becomes a mama bear. I mean, she is a mama bear. She's hardcore. She's badass. And she just shows you that women fucking rock. Priyanka Chopra Jonas is here. She's a global superstar. She started her career in Bollywood. She made over 60, 70 films. She, she. She was in Quantico, Citadel. She's also a producer. She's an entrepreneur. She's a mom. And now she's starring and producing her new brand new action movie, the Bluff. This is a pirate movie. Hardcore pirate movie. She plays a former pirate who has to deal with all this pirate shit to protect her family. Okay. Her past catches up to her, and she, fudgeing, goes rogue. Okay. And it's so badass, and it's so hardcore. And it's so different than any other movie you see today. You can stream the Bluff now on prime and enjoy my chat with Priyanka. First of all, so gorgeous irl. Everybody needs to know those eyes.
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Thank you.
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Are you okay with those eyes?
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Trying to survive.
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And the hair, the new ombre.
B
Right.
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Situation is that. Did you dye your actual hair?
B
No, I just bought it.
A
But you, like, they they put it in for you. Yeah.
B
I wanted. I wanted something different for my hair because I like. I'm in the. Like, I'm photographed. There's a lot that happens, and I like to change my stuff. Much to the jargon of my hairstylist. Who's. What else do we do with your hair? But I'm. I'm promoting a pirate movie.
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Yeah.
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And I wanted the color of my hair to be dripped in, like, crimson blood in blood. Dried blood.
A
I love it because your name in the movie is blood.
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Bloody Mary.
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Bloody Mary.
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She's like this really tough, gory, not afraid of anything, pirate woman. And I don't know, I was just having too much fun with the pirates.
A
And you leaned into the pirate court. You lean into the pirate court for the premiere. You also. You wore the. The, like, corset thing you wore in the. In that fight scene at the end. I watched the movie.
B
Oh, did you?
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I did. Which, thank God, I realized it was rated R because I was like, pirate movie. I'm gonna watch with my son.
B
Oh, my God.
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Thank God. No, it was so very.
B
We are very R. Yeah, you are
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very R. It was so crazy, violent and, like, action packed. And you are such a badass in it. Like, you killed it. I was like, I believe it. Like, she's a pirate. She's an ex pirate.
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Like, she's.
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You were whipping these guys into death, let's put it that way. Right.
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Done it actually, for a really long time. Before I started working in America, I worked in Indian films, lovingly called Bollywood by a lot of people. And I started doing action movies, like, back in the day. I think my first one may have been this movie called dawn. Like, in early 2000s, mid 2000s. So I've chosen it often in my choices of work. And when you get to. It's such a. People don't realize that how technical stunts are and how much precision it actually requires to pull off all of that. And I've always found that so, so fun.
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It's choreographed.
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It's choreographed. Not just with the people who are actually performing this stunts. Carl and I say, for example, in this movie, but also the camera work. When the camera comes in, when it goes out, how close it'll be to you so you don't get hurt. Everyone has to know their distance, their exact marks, because if you don't fall on your exact marks, someone could get hurt. So it's like, the stakes are high.
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Yeah.
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So days like that, like, your adrenaline is pumping. Everything has to be precise. So I really enjoy the precision of that. We cheated the Cayman Islands in Australia because it had more conducive to shoot. But they have an amazing film industry. They've shot a lot of amazing films. So great crew. But also locations were very, very similar. And we wanted to build practical sets in this movie, not use a lot of VFX because we are in the 1900s. Like even my hair, I didn't really use a curling iron. We used to braid my hair into cornrows. Your hair was braided and open it out so it would have that Natur from the 1900s. So we had. We built everything from the house to those ships to the. Every single thing on that movie, including the Brock was built by production designers.
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Oh, wow. How long were you out in Australia for?
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2 and a half, three months.
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Did the fam come with? Yeah. Oh, they did actually.
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My daughter came with. Nick flew in and I, because I was. Your daughter, came with.
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Was she on set with you?
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Yeah, she was on set with me. Oh, do you know that scene where. The conch shell scene.
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Yeah. When you put it back with the blood. I know. I was like, she's hardcore.
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That day, Monty came to set and I was covered head to toe in blood. And she looked at me and she paused for a second. She was like three at that time, maybe two and a half. She paused for a second and I recognized it and I was like, oh my gosh. This can either go one of two ways, right? Either I've traumatized her for the rest of her life's life or I let her into the secrets. So I took her in the hair and makeup trailer and we explained. We tasted it because it's usually made of corn, like corn starch. So it's sweet. I showed her that it was just make make believe and she put some blood on me and painted it on me and then it was totally fine.
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Wait, so does she think it's cool? Cuz I saw. I remember a TikTok that showed you had to hold her back from getting on stage with Nick. She was like, would you want to get on stage? That was so funny. Did she. Who's cooler right now? You doing Action Sense covered in blood or is it still. Is it her father on stage singing?
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I think it's both. I think she. When she's grown up on. On set and backstage, like, she knows what it looks like to go to crafty. She knows what it looks like to go from the friends and family greeting room to the dressing room. Like she. It's her normal yeah. So I don't know if she has a preference, but I think with me, she's very excited about, like right now on a press tour. She was with me for a while while we were in la and just the dresses and the heels. She's a very girly girl. So she loves. She sits with me. My makeup is happening. She'll do her own.
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Oh, yeah. So she loves all. How old is she now?
B
She's four.
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She's four.
B
Yeah.
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Is she. How is she with. Traveling in South Australia is a gazillion hours away.
B
She's a great traveler. She's traveled around the world since she was like five months old.
A
Oh, that's amazing.
B
She has. She's been lived in multiple countries already, so. So, yeah, I think she's a great little traveler. I really do believe that travel is the best teacher, especially when you're young and you have the ability before school sucks you in in a real way to really travel and get that experience. But at the same time, to each their own. Like, they're. They're my best friend. For example, she, like, finds it really hard to get out of her routine to pack stuff up and travel for four days. Meanwhile, me and my husband are. We'll just be like, hey, you want to come to Brazil for the weekend? Gets. It's that.
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That's your norm.
B
So it's tweets. It's. It's not easy, it's not normal. But that's what I've done for such a long time.
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And she's used to it too.
B
She's used to it.
A
I also noticed about your daughter, Malte, that you started posting her. There were emojis before, less emojis now. Was that a decision? No.
B
What was it actually? Full emojis. Then we. She was getting photographed anyway.
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So you want to take the power back? We.
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We did. We were like, okay. We took her out for. I think it was Nick's and Hollywood Walk of Fame ceremony. Remember the first time we took her out and then I was just. We just were like, nah, let's not do that anymore. It's new. You're trying to navigate this whole new thing. And as she's growing older, so her baby pictures, we didn't care as much. But as she's growing older, we've started to also just deflect a little bit and let her have. She moves around a lot. Let her have her prize as much anonymity as she can. It is her normal and people will be curious about her. And I never want her to be fearful of that or judgy of or skeptical of the humans that she meets. Because there are good people in the world. And I've had wonderful experiences with friends like that. It is her normal and I think it's okay for her to be aware of it, but to have a sense of choice I think will be important.
A
And I know that you like hire extra security. Like that's a real concern, right?
B
Well, not extra security. I don't have security beefed up for her. But yeah, I, I the reason, like I just think it's important for when we have security for out and about. It's just for to not be recorded without consent. Because a lot of that happens.
A
That is crazy to me that that happens. Like recording a kid.
B
Yeah, for sure. She was followed from school, home, like
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by a paparazzo or by a normal,
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normal person recording her.
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That's insane.
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Paparazzo. That's what was wild.
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That it's like a, it's like an everyday person.
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That's really how desensitized we are.
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Yeah.
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To just recording people.
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I know people get upset when they do it to celebrities and actors and stuff, but that's one thing. But for kids, that should be really off the table.
B
I've always been of the opinion that I chose a public life.
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Yeah.
B
And there is the. I'm pragmatic enough to be like, that's the nature of the beast. If you're gonna live a public life, people will be interested and curious in your life. That's fine. But when it comes to children, like that's just, it's terrain we are all learning in the last like 10 to 20 years. What that is gonna be like in the next 10 years, 15 years for them. So I think a little bit of grace is required for everyone. But also like certain awareness of safety and what that means. Curiosity is great. I love talking about Malti. She's an amazing thing. Smart, precocious, fun kid. But yeah, protecting her is for me that this movie, it was all about that like the feeling of what are you capable of? What will you do to protect your child? How far will you go? Yeah. And I feel that, yeah, in the
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movie you did that for sure.
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Yeah, for sure.
A
You did that for sure. And you pulled it off so well. Do you cook?
B
No, I'm not the best at it. I do what I need to.
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Okay.
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But I make sure that she has like her right nutrition. My mom in law, my mother, she has a lot of people that surround her who are much better at it. Than I am.
A
Oh, really? Okay. That makes me feel better. I also don't know how to cook.
B
Yeah, just. We do the best we can.
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Yeah.
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But I. Because she's traveled so much, she's really been exposed to just palates from around the world. I remember I was filming this movie I did called Heads of State in France, and she was with me. And she used to have a bone marrow every day. Can you imagine? She was, like, two and a half.
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No. And she loved it.
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Every day, every week or whatever. She used to love it.
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Wow.
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Grilled.
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Now she's like, ordering sushi. She's like, where's my salmon? Avocado? Does she like sushi? She there?
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Yeah, she hasn't done that.
A
Oh, she hasn't done sushi.
B
Yeah. But she does grilled avocado. I mean, grilled octopus. She loves grilled octopus because she calls it Ursula.
A
No. Wait, has she. She watched A Little Mermaid? That's why I'm terrified of Ursula.
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So that's why she loves eating.
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But she wasn't scared of Ursula.
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She was scared of Ursula.
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But now she's eating Ursula.
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She has a sense of power.
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She goes, so funny.
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I eat Ursula.
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Wait, that is the funniest thing that you have to remember. I, as a kid, was, like, traumatized by Ursula.
B
Yeah. But if you eat her.
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If you eat her, you have the. She's winning. That's so funny. I think it was a Met Gala, and you. You said something like, she can have a movie tonight even though it's a Monday. As you said this, you were in, like, full makeup. It was like a crazy Met Gala year. And are you still there with the. With that kind of rule of, like, movies on the weekends only?
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Yeah.
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You kept with it.
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She's great about it.
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Oh, great.
B
She loves sketching. I do go prepared. Whenever we go out for dinner, whenever we're going somewhere where I know she might get tired or rely on something more than just conversation, I go very prepared. I have little trinkets. As soon as her attention is over one thing, I take something else out. My bag is full. I have a sketchbook with crayons and colors. I have. I have this camera, digital camera. I have, like, little magnetiles, the travel magnet house. I have, like, multiple things. Little, little things that you just give them every 20 minutes and they're fine.
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So she waits for movies on the weekend? Yeah.
B
And she says it to us. She's, oh, I can't watch a movie. It's a weekday.
A
That is great. Like, good for you. Can say I'm doing the same. We all are doing our best. We're doing the best that we can. We all are doing our best. Yeah.
B
Listen, like, it's. It's not easy being a working mom, and we're all doing the best we can. And sure, there'll be a day I'm on a zoom where I'll stick her in front of a movie because I've got to do what I have to do, and it's fine. Yeah. But as much as I can, I'm. I'm trying to not create that dependence.
A
Yeah. It's hard. What do you.
B
It's not easy.
A
Are you teaching her Hindi?
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I try.
A
Yeah.
B
So there'll be weeks where, like a day I'll suddenly remember, and the whole
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day I'm like, we're only speaking this.
B
Yes, totally. And then the whole day I'm speaking in Hindi and she, like, gives me the side eye. She's. I have no idea what you're talking about. I know, but she knows three or four words. I live in America. I'm married to an American. Like, when even my mom, when she comes in, we forget. I don't travel as much.
A
You should be like, mom, you. That's your role.
B
I keep telling her that, and she forgets too.
A
Yeah.
B
But I'm trying really hard to be, like, intentional about it because a lot of my cousins, when they came to the States, like, they forgot how to speak Hindi too. And I know that that's one of their regrets is when you lose that your second language.
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Yeah.
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So I'm trying to be better about it.
A
But you guys travel there a lot, right? You have a home there.
B
We do go to India also, if
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she has a summer or two when
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she's a little bit older, she hasn't been that extensively. Like, she's gone for 10 days, 15 days. It's never been as even. It's not extensive for me that I don't live there anymore. I've lived here for 15 years, not 10, 12 years now. So it's tough. But we make sure that she goes at least twice a year and has an exposure to India. Because that's really important to me.
A
When you go there, terms of walking down the street, do you have more privacy there?
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We don't have privacy anywhere.
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Anywhere.
B
And it's okay. It's like I said, nature of the beast. It's when I want to find privacy. You can find it too.
A
That is true.
B
You know that?
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No, it is true. Because, you know, I think about. I've always been. Been fascinated by this culture, and it's. You'll see a couple go to, like, a specific restaurant. You're like, they could have gotten to another restaurant if they didn't want to be. You know what I mean? Like, that there's two.
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There's two schools of thought there. I feel like one is, I don't give a shit. I want to go to this restaurant because the food's great, and if you take my picture, I don't care.
A
Yeah.
B
I'm going to live my life, which is great, which I do. And I'm just like, you know, it's. But also, if I want to, like, not be seen, I know where I can go to not be seen. So it's. I think it's okay to want to live your life normal without having to think about somebody taking a photo or whatever, because it gets crazy after a certain point, because you're living your life just. It's like you're jailed. It's like you have to constantly think about who's watching. Can't live like that. That's insane. So you just have to understand that you're a public person who lives a public life, and people take pictures and it's fine, and.
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Yeah.
B
And if they don't, that's fine, too.
A
Yeah. I mean, I think your attitude is so positive about it.
B
Yeah.
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Yeah. Because you don't have that extra layer of, like, annoyance about it. You're like, it is what it is. I deal with it. I accept it. I embrace it.
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I chose the job.
A
Yeah.
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Nobody put me here.
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Well, I didn't do a lot of page. I was 17 when I moved back. I was in high school in the States, and I was 17 when I moved back to India and I was failing school. I was like, I could not get anything right. And, like, Indian kids were doing, like, integration and segregation in, like, math, and I had just done algebra.
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So studying here put you behind a little bit. Got you.
B
So when I went back, I was, like, doing extra classes, and my mom, I think, felt really bad for me. And there was this ad for an advertisement for. Was it an advertisement for Miss India? The Miss India pageant? And we had these, you know those mall shots back in the day with like soft focus in your hand like that. So I had a few of those which my mom sent in to the pageant without telling me. And I happened to get picked. I'm competitive. And my competitive bitch self went out there and I was like, now I'm
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here, I'm going to win.
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I tried. Yeah, I did.
A
You did.
B
And then whoever wins Miss India, you're sent to the Miss World and the Miss Universe pageants. So I was sent to the Miss World pageant. And I don't know, it was my year that year. I won that. And then I had a year of being Miss World in 2000, 2001. And then I started doing movies.
A
Did you do a lot of these?
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Actually, it's this.
A
Oh my God. I love that.
B
It's the wrist. You have to be benevolent when you do it.
A
You're like the sipping the. That I'm learning so much today and, and having the crown, like, how did that feel? It's heavy. Yeah, it's heavy. Did you care? Were you like, I know you were competitive, but did that mean something? Did you feel like it was just about your beauty? Like, no.
B
I have to give props where it's due. When I did it in like 2000, the Miss World pageant really focused a lot on the substance of a woman. So it was really like, you know, who you really are, what you stand for. So I felt a really, I felt such a sense of pride, honestly, that I represented my country and I went on this pageant with 95 girls and it was a really big deal. And to my 18 year old self, like I immediately became a pageant girl. Hence me knowing how to do this
A
well, I love it.
B
Imagine how much I must have practiced.
A
You practiced a lot, huh?
B
I did. I'd quickly forget about all of that after. But in retrospect, I think it was the first big jump that I ever got into entertainment. And I don't think I'd ever do it again if I had to. It's crazy. That thing is crazy.
A
It's a crazy thing.
B
It's a crazy.
A
It's just all I know about is like Miss Congeniality. That's all I know.
B
That's a like of course, the epic movie, by the way. Yeah, but that's like the stereotype of what it is. But it's a crazy thing if you think about it like you just, it's wild. Anyway, I would not do it again. But at that time I think it catapulted me into something which eventually did end up becoming my career because I'd never thought I would act. It wasn't something.
A
What did you think you were going to do next after pageants? What was in your mind after pageants?
B
I knew I would get into movies because it's a real. In India, pageants to Bollywood movies is usually a normal progression. So whoever does really well in these in the pageants ends up in movies. Oh, it was like that was happening anyway.
A
Yeah.
B
So I kind of knew that would be the next step. But before pageants I grew up. My parents were doctors. I come from an academic family. I didn't think normal people became actors. I don't know how many other people
A
you thought it was like Nepo vibes only. I don't know.
B
I just thought like everyday people don't become actors. I was going to high school in Cedar Rapids. I was like, what are you doing? You don't think that you're going to be an actor? Yeah, I didn't. It was not. It was just not something I thought of. I enjoyed musical theater. I would. I loved stuff like that, but it was just not a vocation. So after my film school was my acting career. Like I was thrown onto a movie set right after pageants. I had to learn everything on an actual set. On the job. Yeah.
A
What was your first movie?
B
It was a movie called Tamilian in the Tamil language in India.
A
And do you have to learn a new language?
B
I had to phonetically learn the language. I couldn't. It was impossible to learn a new language. But I would memorize my lines and I would say them. But it was my first exposure to like a little bit of fame I think for my co actor, his name is Vijay, who is extremely popular. And I remember when we used to land up on set there used to be people like stand hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people just standing there to watch him and. And while he was dancing and while he was doing his thing and it's my first movie. I had no idea what happens behind the scenes. I just saw what we saw in movie theaters and I just remember thinking about what a demigod feeling that must be. Especially in India where people love their movies and the fans are really, really giving.
A
Did you want that? Did his. Did you. Were you like I can't wait for the focus to be on me.
B
Yeah. My 18 year old self. Was that what this means?
A
Yeah.
B
And like I Think that when people start in the industry. And here I'm talking 25 years later, when you start in the business.
A
Not 25.
B
25, girl. 26. We're in 2026. This is. I'm telling you, the story of 2000. 2000. 2001.
A
Priyanka said you were 18 then.
B
That's still true.
A
And I know your age now, so that's 20 years.
B
Yes, I am 20. You're right.
A
20 years.
B
Since it's 2000 and we're in 2026, girl, it's 26 years later.
A
Oh, okay.
B
I started filming in 2001.
A
Okay. I thought you were. I don't like when people, like, age themselves more. I'm like, let's stick to our current age, girl.
B
No, I would love to de age myself, but. Because everybody knew. Whoever knows me knows that I won this Damn pageant in 18. At 18, you can do the MA.
A
Yeah, yeah.
B
I can't even iron my age.
A
Damn it, everybody. So you saw this first movie. You saw the fame, Your co star.
B
Yeah. So I think that my relationship with what this job was was skewed because I thought, whoa, everybody, it's about the fame. It's only when I started doing it that I realized that fame is the byproduct of the job.
A
Yeah.
B
It isn't the job. And that's when it became really fun.
A
And you did, like, 60 movies.
B
I don't know. IMDb is. Not sure.
A
Oh, it's not true.
B
No, not sure. I think It's a late 60s, early 70s somewhere there.
A
Wow, that's a lot of movies.
B
Yeah.
A
And then did you have the. Like, the.
B
Between Hollywood and.
A
Oh, between Hollywood.
B
Yeah, both.
A
So, because what was the bug that first came in that was like, I want to make it in America. This isn't enough.
B
Oh, man. It wasn't. When I was working back in India, I just felt that, I don't know, I started feeling limited. And I wanted to. I like using that word because I wanted to be able to see what else was out there. And I hadn't really seen in American pop culture someone who was like, besides Mindy Kaling, there were very few female or even male Indian actors within Hollywood, and I wanted that. And I was like, why don't we have that representation? It really made me think of myself. That girl in Cedar Rapids I was talking about who was in ninth grade, who was like, I'm in America. And like, where do nobody looks like me in my high school? But it's okay. I didn't think about it. At that time. But now, as someone who is starting to seek work in. In Hollywood, I was like, where do I stand? How do I begin? Where does. What does it mean? So I think it came from a need to want to expand and see what the possibilities were. And then, like I said, I'm competitive.
A
And was there some. Because I know you've said before, like, you started feeling tense relationships with. With. With some of the stuff going on in. In India, with the movie scene. Yeah.
B
Listen, nothing is an easy ride. Okay. And I think that we all have battles that we have to handle and deal with. I'm someone who just doesn't like staying in the shit because then you get used to the smell when you need a pivot. I'm a big believer in pivoting. I just think, like, when something is a struggle or anything in your life is getting tough. God has made us. We are so resilient as human beings. We have the ability to pick ourselves up, dust ourselves off, take a minute to grieve and feel emotional and feel the pain, and that's absolutely okay. And then pivot.
A
Yeah.
B
Big kid shoes, like. And I have done that many, many times in my career. And this was one of those. I wanted to see, like, if there was something out there for me, what the possibilities could be. I didn't know. I didn't know there wasn't a major precedent before me. So I just went out there and gave it a shot. And just the only thing I knew was I'm a really hard worker. I know my job. If you put me on a set with any filmmaker, any co actor, I will stand toe to toe because I've done it for long enough. And I went out there and started working.
A
I love you that you call your. I feel like usually people say co stars, and I love that you say co actors because I feel like for me, it sounds so humble, like you're not calling yourself a star. Vibes. I found anyway to say co star.
B
Just star in general.
A
Star. That's what I figured because you always say co actor. I've noticed.
B
I really do believe we are doing a job. And I feel like actors do get to. We do enjoy the amazing position of love and affection and attention and brickbats at the same time. It's like the attention comes with good and bad, but eventually we're all doing a job. And I really am of the. I'm a major believer that when you go onto a film set and I'm a big cinephile. I love movies. I love the Art, the art that goes into making a movie that we stand on the shoulders of 150, 200 people.
A
Right.
B
Of every department, having to be 100% between action and cut. So I believe that I'm an actor on the job. There's a cinematographer. Everybody brings their own expertise.
A
But, like, the acting job is, like you were saying, it's a job. You're working long hours, you're covered in blood, you're sweat, tears, the whole freaking thing. So, I mean, look where.
B
It's not rocket science. We're not saving.
A
Yes, but it's not. But it's not glamorous all the time is what I mean.
B
Oh, it ain't. Especially the.
A
In this movie, the Black warriors, which
B
are, of course, like, I've. I've amazing, pinch me moments in my career where I'm like, did this just happen? I had dinner with Bruce Springsteen. Just things like that where you're just like, what? So there's been cool stuff, but no job is 100 glamorous.
A
Yeah.
B
There's backstage to everything I saw somebody say about you.
A
I don't know how you're related to this woman that was speaking about you on, like, a podcast, but she was, like, saying that you came from India, where she was equating you to the Beyonce. She said, Priyanka was Beyonce in India. And imagine coming to the US and starting where people didn't know you. And she was talking about you in a very, very positive way, saying how humble you were and how egoless is the word, because you had to kind of with what, you know, Beyonce, Priyanka, come. Come to America where you people were just being introduced to you. So how did you. Did you have to, like, talk to yourself through that or did. Was that just a natural thing for you? I'm going to. I'm going to start. I'm going to start it all over.
B
Like I said, it's a job. Right. First of all, just being equated with Beyonce is. She's my queen.
A
Is she your number one?
B
Yes, she's one of my number ones. I have a few. I don't think women, we need to be competitive with the number one space. I'm. I'm rather generous with my number one. Like you.
A
Have you met her?
B
Yes, I have. She's wonderful. Yeah, she's such a grounded, amazing woman. And anyway, so I think that that was my manager, Angela. She has to believe in me.
A
You know the clip you're like, yeah, I know.
B
I know which clip you're talking about, but it's think about it this way. You decide to pick up and go to France and start this again, you're going to do the digging, right? You're going to start from the beginning. So it's like any other job. I'm not going to expect. Just because, again, I said my relationship with the word famous, going back to just because I'm famous or well known or have a body of work in one country doesn't mean it necessarily needs to translate to every country in the world. That's not something. I don't walk around with the assumption that you know me or know anything about me or have even seen my body of work. And that's not humility. It's just there's like 7 billion people in this world. What are we talking about? You know, And I'm okay with that. I think that there's a certain, yes, there were hurtful times, but there is a certain power in being able to put your head down and, and go to work. And it took a while, but I'm here producing and starring in my own movie.
A
Yeah, you're producing. You produce the. The bluff too, right? So Amanda Seyfried, I think, just spoke a little bit about. She. I don't know if you saw this, but she produced the. The. The housemaid.
B
Yes.
A
And she's was really funny on this press tour and she said something like people were like, oh, you produce this? And she was like, I did. She was like, I don't even know what that. So I feel like producing to, like, normal people. We don't know what it means. And I know that sometimes it means being super involved and sometimes it's like a cred. I think she was saying, like, it was like a credit. So what was it like for you on. On this movie?
B
I started producing back in 2012. My company is called Purple Pebble Pictures and we've done a bunch of movies in many, many different languages. English in Hindi, in Marathi in Bhojpuri, in many languages. We've had some amazing successes and we've had some not so many amazing successes. But my company was built on the philosophy of wanting to be the shoulders for newer filmmakers, younger filmmakers, people who don't really get the opportunity to have a seat on the table to magnify their stories. Different movies require different kinds of involvement. With this movie, most of the production was handled by Agbo and Prime Amazon. Agbo being the Russo siblings, their company, Joe Anthony and Angela Russo. So they had everything handled. But what was required of me was a collaboration. When it came from the time the script was being tightened, when I came on board to be written for me and Carl and the casting as it was to have a sense of. We went to Cayman Islands, we did a research trip to kind of understand what. To have as much in depth knowledge so that we could keep our schedule really tight. The producer is basically somebody who oversees that the movie gets made in the best possible way and buttons up all the gaps.
A
Yeah.
B
Anything that's missing. As a lead actor who also had the responsibility of producing the. I wanted to be the best collaborator in every department that I can and to make sure that anything that was required was facilitated.
A
Yeah.
B
And that I could be the best partner in doing that and continuing to do so right now.
A
And you like having that extra layer of responsibility, like not just showing up and doing the acting, having that, like, extra layer.
B
I like having that extra layer of partnership. I think there's really. Yes, of course. And I'm absolutely happy being just an actor, going to set and doing that too. But I do truly enjoy being in the rooms where decisions are made where I can contribute to the larger, bigger picture.
A
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You can also snatch up Olipop on Amazon and at their wet on their website, Drink Olip. But to get the. The can for free, you got to buy it in store and then go to drinkolipop.com not skinny. And we're back. Zoe Saldana also, she executive producer.
B
Producer.
A
How did that happen? Did you bring her in?
B
She brought me in, actually.
A
She was supposed to start. She was supposed to star in it,
B
and then she was supposed to be you. She was. And then she was doing multi billion dollar movies and she got busy.
A
Did she think of you for it?
B
I'm not sure that's a question to ask Frankie. But she has been such a wonderful support through the movie and so supportive of the bluff. She just had a screening in Cayman a couple of weekends ago and she and her sisters have been. It's so great to have girls. Girls in the industry and like working together. It's awesome that an amazingly talented star like Zoe would give her blessings to a movie with me in it and still be supportive of it. So I'm. She's wonderful. She's a girl's girl and so grateful to have her support.
A
Was she? Was she. So she was involved in the. In the movie?
B
Yeah, she was.
A
She came and she didn't come to
B
set because she's so busy film.
A
Yeah.
B
But she's always been very supportive and encouraging of the film.
A
Oh, that's so awesome. So you became friends?
B
I know her. I'm friends with Zoe, but I admire her tremendously.
A
Oh, that's amazing. I love that. I love that she's a girls girl. So while I was like looking at all these videos of you, I obviously saw videos of like you and Nick being adorable. But this. Okay, so there were two moments that I was like. Like that one. Even at just this premiere, everyone was dying over him holding your. Like. Like one. On one hand, I'm like, no, that's so hot. It's so gentleman. On the other hand, I'm like, you guys, she. He's her husband, and he was moving her dress out of the way, but the girls were dying over it. Did you see that?
B
Yeah. Find yourself a guy will do that. Yeah. Girls don't settle.
A
Don't settle.
B
Yes. That's exactly what it is. He's my husband, and he. We're both very conscientious of each other. When we are on the carpet, these pictures are from any angle.
A
Like, you want to look up, you
B
want to make sure you're all right, and we have each other's backs. And he's. He's great about that. He's. He. In fact, he'll make it a point before we get out of the house to understand how he'll speak to the he stylists and try to understand how the train should be and tries to set it like that.
A
That's so sweet.
B
It's wonderful like that.
A
So that's why it's, like, great to have somebody who gets it.
B
Yeah, for sure. Because he's been in the business just as long as me, 25 years, understands, and he'll just set it up.
A
And another moment, which I think this one even trumps, that is. You were doing this GQ couples interview, and at the. Do you remember this? You were wearing, like, I think, like, a black, like, patent leather look. And at the end of it, he, like, pulled your chair over in this really hot way. I'll show you the video. Do you know what I'm talking about?
B
I don't know. Was it gq?
A
It wasn't gq.
B
I can't remember.
A
But it was. It was also a moment. The girlies were. Were dying.
B
That was a moment for me, too.
A
Yeah.
B
That wasn't just the girlies. That was early. We were. I think we just got married or something. It was, like, early. Early in our relationship. I remember that moment. I think you can see it on my face, too. Whenever I see that clip, I'm kind of like, I don't know where to look. I'm blushing.
A
Yeah.
B
Oh, yeah.
A
Because they asked you, like, what activities you guys like to do together.
B
That.
A
Oh, not that. When you blush, you blush there, too.
B
Yeah. But when he, like, pulled your chair. Me closer, it was. I was. It's so fun when I Don't know if this is me or if this is you, either. I love being babied by my guy. Like, I love becoming like you, love
A
feeling like small toddler.
B
Like, I want to be a child. Like, I want to be.
A
You want to feel small.
B
Yes. I want to be smart. I love, like, snuggling.
A
You want him to be huge on you, and then they're not for me, at least.
B
No, no. I. I love. Half of his wardrobe is in my closet. So, yeah, literally, Nick has the best clothes.
A
And you can share clothes.
B
Yeah, they're slightly big for me, but I like it.
A
At least they're big. That's good. Yeah, that's nice. Because if not, there's that meme that's. You put it on your boyfriend's weapons. You want to be like you, and then it's. Yeah. Just because sometimes guys have skinnier legs. They don't have any. Usually wears, like, baggy stuff.
B
Baggy.
A
That's good.
B
Or at least that's the stuff I steal.
A
So you love feeling like I'm so small and cute and you're the man.
B
I can't do anything. I am incapable.
A
But, like, that's so not you.
B
No.
A
Like, you're such a strong woman.
B
In front of my husband, Like, I literally can't do anything. Hey, Gaga. Can you change?
A
You call him Gaga? My.
B
Our daughter calls him Gaga. I think she used to try to say that Dada, and she couldn't, and it became Gaga. So now we've just took it on.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
B
Don't. Don't change it. Can't change something, Gaga. I don't know how to change the channel. My Internet's not working. My phone's not doing this. Oh, it's.
A
Yeah. What? Did you know that about yourself? Did that only happen with Nick, or were you always like that?
B
No, no, it's definitely a husband.
A
Yeah, it's a husband thing. Yeah.
B
I don't know what it is.
A
Maybe. Maybe it's like, you finally feel, like, safe enough to maybe be like. Of. Of, like, I don't need to take care of everything. Do it. I could just be myself.
B
Yeah. I don't have to hold it all together.
A
Right. Feeling right.
B
You can kind of, like, let go.
A
Yeah.
B
And. And. And he's okay with that.
A
You know what? I feel like I'm such a. I'm such a strong personality, and I make all the decisions, let's be honest. And then to let them feel like it's nice.
B
Oh, it's definitely nice. But I think I love it when it just happens.
A
Yeah.
B
I don't have to let him. I like, become that person in front of my husband. And it's definitely a husband thing because there's just something about I'm completely incompetent. Like, when we go to the airport, like, all I do is follow Nick. Like, I have no idea. And when I'm traveling by myself, like, I'm a boss, like, I know exactly where I'm going, how to get. But when I'm with, I'm just like, wait, what? Where, where are we going? Where's the gate? What is that?
A
Is he like a dad that gets to the airport three hours early and checks where the gate is?
B
No, he travels too much.
A
Yeah, yeah. He knows what he's doing.
B
We both do this. Like the. When is the last minute we can. So last passenger on board will be me. Not like late. Really not late. But we're pro travelers. Yeah, we're like pro travelers.
A
Like, nothing can get. Like, how about like a turbulent flight? Who's freaking out?
B
None of us actually stop. Like, if it's bad. Like, I spent half my life on a plane. It's scary.
A
Yeah.
B
But usually we were like, okay, so
A
what made you so sure about how he can sleep through it? Because I know you started dating in May, engage in July, married in December. How. What made you so sure? Is it like when you know, you know, kind of a vibe?
B
I still don't have an answer to that. I think I was sure because he was sure.
A
He was sure about you from the beginning. From the DM he slid in your DMs was like, we need to meet. People have said, yeah, we need to meet. He was sure from the guest.
B
But that's just who he is. He's a very self assured person. And I think that was very attractive to me.
A
Yeah, that is hot. So because he, because he proposed, it was a surprise.
B
I had a feeling it was coming, but not as soon as it did. It happened in two months. I was expecting it to be like a little bit later.
A
Were you worried then about what people would say at all? Did that creep in like, that you're getting married quickly or something?
B
No, my parents got married 10 days of meeting each other. They met at a party, got married 10 days later. So I was never afraid of no one's opinion on when and how we get married. No. We knew we wanted to do it that year and we did it.
A
And how. How many years are you celebrating? How do you know when to celebrate your anniversary since your Wedding spanned a few days or.
B
Oh, but that's an Indian wedding.
A
Yeah.
B
You still have one anniversary.
A
Oh, you have one. Which one do you.
B
We have two because of the Hindu ceremony and the Christian ceremony. So we have.
A
So you have to do Celebrate both the.
B
Yeah, of course we celebrate both.
A
You celebrate.
B
We take like three days.
A
It's great. Oh, my God, your roast was so good at that roast, I was cracking up. Did you prepare that on your. On your own?
B
No, actually. Of course some of the writers wrote it, but I don't know if many people know this, but Nick Roast wrote most of it for me.
A
Stop.
B
Yeah, that's what a partnership looks like.
A
Did you ask him to or was he like, I have good ideas for you.
B
I asked him. I was like, here, I want you to read it and give me your thoughts. And he just made it better.
A
Were you shocked how savage he was willing to get about himself?
B
No, because that's how self assured he is. I knew that he would make it better.
A
Yeah, because, like, you would be too sensitive.
B
I would be sensitive. Like, I wouldn't say it. Yeah, but like, he would know.
A
Wait. Because that was. It was like, you have more followers on Instagram than all of. That was his joke. And what was the age gap joke that you made?
B
Yep, that was his job.
A
Oh, that was his joke too. No. That's so funny. Do you scroll?
B
Yeah, definitely.
A
You're a scroller.
B
I'm user 856-95-8505.
A
Wait, on tick Tock, you mean? Oh, you're a user on TikTok.
B
Yeah.
A
You're a scroller. So what's your scroll?
B
I see everything, but I don't.
A
What's your fyp?
B
I. What is it, man?
A
Is it you? No, Imagine just like, not on. I wonder if, like, your user knows. But Instagram it is.
B
Yeah, on Instagram probably will be. But on. On TikTok it is like, mostly like, a lot of kids stuff. I love babies being funny.
A
Yeah.
B
And then like savage people. People like funny stuff. TikTok is. And also informational, by the way. Oh, like this drink will do this the next morning. You won't be bloated. Like, stuff like that.
A
Do you follow the hacks?
B
No, but I will save them.
A
Oh, my God.
B
And then forget.
A
It's like, I'll save recipes that are.
B
Recipes that are so.
A
So this is like a disease that I have. I'll save these recipes. I'm going back to it.
B
I actually text myself. So I'll like if I like a TikTok or something of a recipe. I'll text it to myself. I never make it and never make
A
it and never make it. I like, what is your dream? Cuz you said you did so many action movies. That's your forte. You thrive in it. The bluff. So good. Do you see yourself doing next, like romantic comedy? Like, I feel like that would be like your action. Like for other people, they would go from that to. To doing stunts and everything. But for you, would that be totally different to do that kind of a vibe?
B
Yeah, I think for the last few years I've. I've done a lot of like cool, fun action movies and that genre in my Indian language work. I've worked in a lot of genres. So I'm looking forward to doing like a drama, maybe a comedy.
A
Comedy.
B
I love a good rom com. But yeah, pivoting and doing like things.
A
And now, now, now you're saying you're had it for 12 years, but you can seek out those kinds of projects now.
B
I'm developing some really fun stuff for me, which hopefully. Let's see, we'll see what happens.
A
Well, fingers crossed.
B
Yeah.
A
Is that what we're manifesting? Is there anything specific we're manifesting for. For what's next?
B
I do want to be able to diversify in the work that I do, for sure, but I really want to manifest being able to actually be present. That's my manifestation for 2026 is be wherever I am. I'm here having this chat with you and I want to be here. And I have had this mindset which has been my ambition. I've been a very ambitious person my whole life, but we just keep going. We keep going and we romanticize the fact that if we don't work so hard, we don't deserve it. Maybe. And this is the year for me to just put a pause on that drive and that feeling and work intentionally, but take time to breathe.
A
Yeah. Do you have like a time off now after you're done with this press tour and everything?
B
No, I'm still filming this movie of mine called Varanasi, which I'm flying back and forth from India. But after that I have a little bit of time.
A
After you're done with this movie?
B
Yes, after I have a little bit of time.
A
Are you gonna go on vacation?
B
I don't know. Depends. I think my husband's gonna be at a movie set somewhere, so we'll be on vacation. Wherever he is, I don't know. We have to figure out where we can be because it's so different.
A
What A fun. It's like a fun ride. You never know what's next.
B
Yeah, that's for sure. Yeah, you definitely never know what's next.
A
Well, thank you so much for coming.
B
Thank you for having me.
A
It's so great to get to know you and stare into your eyes. This whole fucking podcast. The Bluff is on prime globally.
B
Yes, it's out today.
A
It's out today. So by the time this comes out, it'll be out for everyone. It's such a, I want to say, like, fun, action packed, hardcore, badass movie.
B
Thank you.
A
And with the twist of pirates, it's
B
what real pirates were like.
A
Not Jack Sparrow.
B
No, not Disney. Not
A
Disney.
B
Not the Disney version of it. It's what real pirates were like. And we have erased the story of female pirates, I think, from history. No one has heard of them. Like, very few. Mary Read. Maybe very few people have heard of Ching Shih or like amazing female pirates that actually existed. And so it's really cool to be telling her story.
A
I love that and I love the pirate core.
B
Thanks. It's fine.
A
Are you gonna keep it going for a little bit? No, she's done. She's done.
B
A week was good.
A
Yeah. I love it. Thank you guys so much for listening to this episode of Not Skinny but Not Fat. Follow me me on Instagram at Not Skinny but Not Fat. Subscribe to the podcast so you don't miss any episodes. Rate the podcast that you love so much on Apple Podcasts and write a little review. If you tell me you did, I'll give you a big virtual smoocharoo. Thank you guys so much for listening and I'll see you next Tuesday.
B
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Host: Amanda Hirsch
Guest: Priyanka Chopra Jonas
Release Date: March 10, 2026
In this lively and heartfelt episode, Amanda Hirsch sits down with global icon Priyanka Chopra Jonas to discuss her new pirate action film, "The Bluff". The conversation traverses Priyanka’s journey from her days as Miss World and Bollywood stardom to conquering Hollywood, producing her own hits, navigating motherhood, and balancing public life with privacy. Priyanka opens up about career pivots, protecting her daughter, the realities of a working mom, and her true partnership with Nick Jonas, all delivered with her signature candor and wit.
Priyanka Chopra Jonas and Amanda Hirsch deliver an honest, dynamic, and warm conversation that goes far beyond Hollywood sparkle. The episode blends deep career insight, parenting realities, partnership, and purposeful living, making it both inspiring and relatable—equal parts celebrity chat and personal growth podcast.
“The Bluff” is streaming on Prime Video and features Priyanka as a pirate mama like no other. As Priyanka says:
“Women fucking rock.”