Batman Tried To Kick My Ass w/ John Feitelberg | Not Today, Pal

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Podcast Summary: "Batman Tried To Kick My Ass" w/ John Feitelberg | Not Today, Pal

Podcast: Not Today, Pal with Jamie-Lynn Sigler and Robert Iler
Episode: Batman Tried To Kick My Ass w/ John Feitelberg
Date: September 25, 2025
Network: YMH Studios
Guest: John Feitelberg (Barstool Sports, KFC Radio, Le Mascot)

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Overview

This episode reunites Jamie-Lynn Sigler and Robert Iler (Meadow and AJ from The Sopranos) with guest John Feitelberg, a Barstool Sports veteran and co-creator of the new series Le Mascot. The trio discuss podcast anxiety, misadventures with driverless cars, messy adolescence, bathroom disasters, Barstool culture, and behind-the-scenes stories from New York’s costumed street performers—including the titular Batman altercation. The conversation mixes sitcom sibling chemistry with behind-the-scenes comedy industry insights and classic New York anecdotes.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. Guest Introduction & Podcast Anxieties

• [00:11–00:50]
  John Feitelberg expresses nerves despite being a seasoned podcaster, noting it’s different as a guest, especially in front of the Sopranos duo—much to the amusement of Jamie and Rob.
  • “I get. I don't know why I get nervous doing shows, but I do.” – John Feitelberg [00:46]

2. Technology & Driverless Car Fiascos

• [01:03–04:26]
  Rob recounts his frustrating experience with a Waymo self-driving car in Texas, highlighting delays, lack of control, and being dropped blocks from his destination in the heat.
  • “I'm just angry at technology. Yeah, we're old men.” – Rob Iler [04:22]
• The crew debates the safety and inevitability of driverless cars.
  • “I guarantee you, you'll be in a driverless car before 2026.” – Rob Iler [04:38]
  • Jamie remains adamant: “Not a fucking chance.” – Jamie-Lynn Sigler [04:52]

3. Social Etiquette, Childhood & Hygiene

• [05:00–07:31]
  Joking about moms calling out smelly taxis, the group reflects on the embarrassment of growing up, puberty milestones, and hygiene.
  • “I remember, like, three armpit hairs. And then someone's like, my mom's like, I think you have to start using deodorant. I'm like, yeah, probably… throw me the Old Spice.” – Rob Iler [07:29]

4. Awkwardness of Adolescence (Puberty, Locker Rooms)

• [07:57–09:24]
  The hosts and guest share tales of bravado and exaggeration among boys—lying about “ball hair,” sex, and even the mythic group penis-measuring at summer camps.
  • “I was also lying, talking about having sex, and I was like, usually I only do it for like, 40 minutes, though.” – John Feitelberg [08:05]

5. Cultural Bathroom Differences & Public Humiliation

• [09:30–12:18]
  From “Dominican squats” in public ballparks to accidentally walking in on a stranger in a bathroom, the show mines humor from mortifying toilet etiquette.
  • “Locked eyes. It was the most vulnerable position I’ve ever seen a man in.” – John Feitelberg [11:24]
  • “I never want to see this person [again].” – Rob Iler [12:10]

6. Barstool Sports Drama & “Le Mascot” Clip

• [12:27–21:21]
  The hosts play a clip of a Barstool staff argument, discussing the long-running on-screen feud between Rico Bosco and Jeff Nadu, and the raw, conflict-driven dynamic at Barstool Sports.
  • “They just keep bringing this guy to mess with him and eventually you just have to fight. Like, for six years…you got to fight.” – John Feitelberg [17:33]
  • Jamie probes whether men feel a physical urge to retaliate after enough provocation: “Is there just, like, some sort of impulse that takes over?” [19:13]

7. The Psychology of Gambling and Turning Big Wins into Bankruptcies

• [24:21–28:24]
  Comparing gambling to social spending, the group debates how lottery winners often lose it all, sharing ideas of what they'd do with $300 million.
  • “If I take $200 and put it on the Knicks, I’m guaranteed three hours of fun, and half the time I double my money.” – Rob Iler [25:27]
  • Jamie: “I read some crazy statistic that, like, 33% of people that win the lottery claim bankruptcy.” [27:22]

8. Airbnb, Privacy, and Rich People Myths

• [30:16–32:04]
  None of the hosts or guest would ever Airbnb their own home, revealing deep-seated privacy issues and aversions to “strangers in my apartment.”

9. The Inevitability of Economic Disparity

• [32:04–34:31]
  Rob provocatively argues that giving “everyone a check” wouldn’t end poverty, since so many lottery winners go back to being broke.
  • “There’s always going to be poor people because of what we just talked about…” – Rob Iler [32:04]

10. “Le Mascot”: Times Square’s Real-Life Cartoon Characters

• [34:31–38:07]
  Feitelberg describes the making of Le Mascot, a Barstool-produced series about NYC street performers. The characters (Elmo, Cookie Monster, Batman) compete for tourist dollars and turf—sometimes violently.
  • “I got in a fight filming. The footage is in episode one… I started getting pushed. And I was like, oh, hell yeah. Batman’s into it. So I started pushing back… then I felt a cold [hit]… it was just a homeless guy, head down, swinging…” – John Feitelberg [38:06–39:00]

11. Barstool’s Early Days, Growth, and Wild Ride

• [39:29–44:37]
  Feitelberg recounts joining Barstool as employee #5, reminiscing about the Blackout Tour days when he donned mascot suits, and the evolution to national stardom.
  • “When I first started, I was just an intern.” – John Feitelberg [41:18]
  • “I think one day, like, they're gonna make the Barstool movie. And I think it's gonna be really fucking good.” – Rob Iler [41:18]

12. Creative Freedom and Barstool’s Pirate Ship Mentality

• [46:25–52:54]
  In-depth discussion on Barstool’s culture pre- and post-corporate buyouts, creative autonomy, and how being owned by a gambling company (Penn) led to self-censorship and more regulation, only for Dave Portnoy to get the company back for a dollar.
  • “The goal is, of course, always to sell something like that. But then when you sell a pirate ship to a museum, they're going to decorate a little differently.” – John Feitelberg [51:24]
  • “We didn't clear it with anybody… if you're looking for creative freedom, we couldn't possibly have more.” – John Feitelberg [52:25–52:54]

13. Wrapping Up: The Joy of Making Art with Friends

• [53:28–54:48]
  Feitelberg, Jamie, and Rob reflect on the joy of making Le Mascot and other content with friends, where the fun and camaraderie outweigh embarrassment.
  • “You let people just explore… even if you fall flat on your face, you discover things through those moments.” – Jamie-Lynn Sigler [52:59]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Rob on driverless cars:
  “I'm just angry at technology. Yeah, we're old men.”
  [04:22]
• Jamie draws a boundary:
  “Not a fucking chance. I will never [get in a Waymo].”
  [04:52]
• Feitelberg on adolescent bravado:
  “I lied constantly, being like, yes, I definitely have ball [hair].”
  [07:58]
• Bathroom walk-in trauma:
  “Locked eyes. It was the most vulnerable position I’ve ever seen a man in.”
  – John Feitelberg [11:24]
• On Barstool drama:
  “They just keep bringing this guy to mess with him and eventually you just have to fight.”
  – John Feitelberg [17:33]
• Jamie on giving away lottery winnings:
  “I would give you 10 [million].”
  [28:13]
• Feitelberg on Barstool's culture:
  “When you sell a pirate ship to a museum, they’re going to decorate a little differently.”
  [51:29]
• Reflections on creativity:
  “When you let people just explore… you discover things through those moments.”
  – Jamie-Lynn Sigler [52:59]

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Key Timestamps

• 00:11: Feitelberg’s intro and nerves
• 01:03–04:26: Rob’s Waymo saga
• 05:00–09:14: Childhood hygiene, puberty stories
• 11:02: Feitelberg’s bathroom walk-in horror
• 12:27: Barstool “Rico vs. Nadu” video and studio drama discussion
• 24:21: Comparing spending on gambling vs. social life
• 27:22: Discussing lottery winners and financial mishaps
• 32:04: Rob on “why poverty persists”
• 34:31: Inside Le Mascot and Times Square mascot culture
• 38:06–39:00: Feitelberg’s Batman “fight” story
• 41:18: Early Barstool history
• 46:25: Corporate buyouts, creative restrictions
• 51:24: The “pirate ship” ethos
• 52:57: Value of creative freedom

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Closing Thoughts

This episode embodies the unscripted comic chemistry of Jamie-Lynn, Rob, and their guest—blending real-life mishaps, commentary on changing tech, adolescent nostalgia, and rare peeks behind the scenes of Barstool Sports and grassroots comedy production. The format is dynamic: organic story-sharing, deep dives, and running gags (driverless cars, bathroom humiliation, mascots-in-brawls) make it as engaging for Barstool fans as casual listeners.
“Le Mascot” emerges as both a love letter to New York City oddballs and a showcase for the kind of comedic risk-taking that Barstool and its alumni stand for.

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Featured:

• Le Mascot (Barstool Sports on YouTube)
• KFC Radio
• Classic Barstool stories
• Sopranos trivia (“bad thoughts” on acting and set life)
• Creative, entrepreneurial comedy advice

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For laughs, insight, and excellent behind-the-scenes stories, this episode is a must-listen for both Barstool Sports and Sopranos fans—plus anyone who’s ever awkwardly locked eyes in a public restroom.

Transcript

[A]

Not today.

[B]

Feidelberg.

[A]

Thank you for joining us, buddy.

[B]

Yeah, thank you for having me. This is insane.

[A]

So happy you're here. The host of. The host of one of my favorite podcasts I've ever done.

[B]

No way.

[A]

Yeah, that was. Dude, I. I walked in. We did kfc. I. I think I walked in. It felt like five minutes, and they were like. That was two and a half hours.

[B]

Yeah, we were on for a long time.

[A]

And there were guys outside, like, waiting for me to come do their. And they looked, like, dead by the.

[B]

Time I came out.

[A]

I was like, guys, I'm so sorry. And I was like, well, we were in there forever.

[B]

That was a long, long time.

[A]

Yeah, it flew by.

[B]

It was. I. I was very nervous before that too. I was. And I'm so nervous right now.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah, I get. I don't know why I get nervous doing shows, but I do.

[C]

But not for your own.

[B]

Not really for my own. For some guests here and there, but.

[A]

Like, big ones like me.

[B]

Yeah, like, well, I knew you. I. Well, my girlfriend is a massive fan of you both, so I have a little extra pressure with you guys.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what happened was I always try and be on time, you know, maybe. Listen, if you're two minutes late, it's okay. I'm from New York. I just got way mode. I just got so last pod. I was like. I took my first waymo and I only had to take it, like, six blocks. It was incredible because I. I didn't have to talk to anybody. There was no tip at the end. I was farting. I was like. I was like, this is. And it really was like. I was like, this is great. I'm like, singing. And I'm like, oh, I'm not embarrass that I'm like, singing. I got in a wayo here and I'm like, cool wayo. It's supposed to take me 12 minutes to get here. It took over 26 minutes to get here. And I. We have a video here. Let's look, guys, this thing has taken me. I don't even know where.

[C]

And you can't tell. You can't.

[A]

You can't say. And it dropped me off three blocks away, back roads of Texas, just to sit around.

[B]

Am I. Am I missing the steering wheel? Is that a Jaguar?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I hate everything about a week.

[A]

Go, bud.

[B]

Go, bud.

[C]

What are we doing? The fact that you feel comfortable having a machine drive you around. I can't.

[B]

I always go back and forth with.

[A]

This where I'm like, see, it Goes the speed limit. Sucks.

[B]

It follows the law. Yeah. Like, what are you, retarded?

[A]

Stupid machine. But the first time I got in, I'm like, this is the best. Second time I get, I'm like, this is the worst. Like, right away, I. I'm done with AI. I'm done with autonomous vehicles.

[B]

I'm. I'm so with you. Like, I'm. I'm. I was talking about this with Danny actually, yesterday. We're like, I'm with technology. I'm going to become, like, a conservative old man. Where, like, of course, like, because it's. It's not out of the realm of possibility that, like, say, in 25 years, I have a kid and they come home and they're like, dad, I want you to meet my robot girlfriend. And I would be like, not in this house. Not under my roof. Yeah, it's flesh. Or any flesh you want, but flesh.

[C]

Yes, I know.

[A]

I don't know. But then maybe 25 years from now, we might be like, God, I hope they bring home a robot.

[B]

No.

[A]

You know, I don't know. Who knows? People might be so crazy. But what do you.

[B]

Like?

[A]

What?

[B]

Wayos are one thing, because they obviously serve a purpose and they can help.

[A]

Barely.

[B]

The barely. Well, the crazy part you told me on the way in was that it can't go on the highway.

[A]

Right? That's the thing. So normally I get here in 12 minutes. I would have been here with time to spare. I'm 10 minutes late because this thing is crawling and like, it. When it has the right of way, it still just lets people. Like, it's kind of like.

[B]

It's polite.

[C]

No, thank you.

[A]

Yeah, way more Alpha.

[C]

Way was a pussy. Is there an option on Uber for Waymo?

[A]

No, it just showed up and it dropped.

[C]

What do you mean? It, like, knew you needed a ride. I don't understand.

[A]

Oh, no, no. I. I said, give me an Uber and then this showed up. Yeah, it doesn't let you know.

[C]

But can you cancel it if it's a Waymo?

[A]

Yeah, well, you could cancel anytime, but.

[C]

Then also you get penalized sometimes for canceling.

[A]

Yeah, there's three buttons in the back and it's like pull over support or something else. I forget. It's like, end. But it dropped me off three blocks away and I can't be like, bro, it's actually over there walking. Yeah, it's like 95 degrees and I'm walking in the hoodie late. I'm like, fucking like. I'm just angry at technology. Yeah, we're Old men.

[C]

I'm so glad you're done with Waymos. I don't feel safe with you in them.

[A]

But it's not even my choice. They just send them.

[B]

Yeah. And I'd be the same way as you. Like, I'll sit here into a microphone, motherfucking Waymo. But if a Waymo shows up, I'm, like, well out of my hands. I got to get in it.

[A]

What am I going to do?

[C]

Never. You'll never see me.

[A]

You'll never. I guarantee you, you'll be in a driverless car before 2026.

[C]

Never before 2026. That's a few months away.

[A]

I'm saying before the. Okay. Before the end of 2026. During 2026, you'll be in a driverless car. I'm going to push. I'm going to force you into one.

[C]

Not a fucking chance. I will never.

[B]

Can I ask you, if you were in an Uber and the guy was, like, driving horribly, would you speak up in that situation?

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Oh, see, I wouldn't. Which is why I'd get into a robotic car.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, I'm like, I'm not going to tell him anything anyway.

[C]

But I would say something in, like, a very me way where I'll be like, oh, my God. I. You know what? I need to get out right now. I'm so sorry.

[B]

Can you pull over?

[A]

I have a problem. Yeah, my dude. My mom used to get into taxis, and even I remember feeling the embarrassment. Even at, like, 10 years old, she would get into a taxi, sit down, and go, p you. And, like, make. And I was like, my mom would do it all the time.

[C]

The pu.

[A]

Things.

[C]

I was like, all the. Oh, I never said anything smelled bad. It was always p. U. Yeah.

[A]

And she'd be like, oh, sir. Like, using a polite name for him, but also being like, you're so gross, dude.

[B]

My mom was that mom, too. Where, like, I think I have actually makes sense with. Because you're so clean. And I remember you're packing to New York. The. Like, my mom would walk into a room. We were kids. I have three other siblings. And she would just be like, oh, who has their shoes off? And I'd be like, oh, God, I'm a stinky monster. And now, like, I'm just very particular about being clean.

[A]

My mom's husband had a friend who she would make leave his shoes in the hallway of our building. And then people, like, our neighbors would be like, that is disgusting. Put them in your apartment. And they would, like, it was a problem.

[B]

His shoes got Kevin Maloned.

[A]

It was really disgusting.

[C]

You can't leave shoes that are stinky in a public hallway, but you couldn't.

[A]

Put them in the apartment because the whole apartment would smell the whole. So it's like, okay, you smell it in the. In the hallway for 30 seconds while you're waiting for the elevator, but then you're free of the smell for hours. He's such a nice guy. He was a really sweet guy. The wor. Like a lot of things, but, yeah.

[B]

Not is that thing feet stinks.

[C]

My kids. I had to buy him little, like, deodorant satchels to put in his shoes when he comes home from school because they reek.

[B]

That makes sense. I'm just around less children now.

[C]

Yeah, but you know what's prepubescent?

[A]

Boy, I remember the first time, like, growing up where you're told, like, you stink, and you're kind of like, yeah, yeah. Like, we're now. I'm like, wait, you liked it? Well, I just. It reminded it, like, kind of made me feel like, like you're going through puberty, you know? Like, I remember the first time the doctor, like, looked me over and then told my mom, like, he's. He's starting puberty. And like, I remember, like, three armpit hairs. And then someone's like, my mom's like, I think you have to start using deodorant. I'm like, yeah, probably like, yeah, throw me the old spice. And like, yeah, you're 10 years old, putting on, like, the red old spice. Like, because that was all my grandpa used.

[B]

So they're like, yeah, yeah, that's what I still use.

[A]

Really?

[B]

I didn't. I didn't hit puberty.

[A]

I.

[B]

Honestly, if you put me on a lie detector test, I wouldn't even know when to tell you I hit puberty. I don't even have a guess.

[C]

Were you always a. Like, a bigger guy?

[B]

Like, not really.

[C]

Just average.

[B]

It's just, like, average. And then I. I honestly don't. I. I don't know when it happened.

[C]

I like you, don't you, boy? Because my son is 12, and they're all talking about who has ball hair and who has. Did you do that with your friends?

[B]

Of course.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

But I. I. And I lied constantly, being like, yes, I definitely have ball.

[A]

So much. What do I do with all this ball hair, Guys? Yeah.

[B]

I remember one time in the showers, like, after practice, everyone was. I'm sure everyone was lying, but I was also lying, talking about having sex, and I was like, I Usually I only do it for like, 40 minutes, though. And the guy. The guys were like, yeah, it's about me too. And then like 20 years later, I was like, I think we were all lying.

[A]

I just start to stink so bad after 40 minutes. I gotta stop, you know? Dude, I remember I. I never went to, like, the. I went one time for like, three days is the worst thing ever. But I never went to, like, the sleepaway camp that all the, like, kids with money were going to because I went to public school. So you had kids with money at the Broke Kid. And they'd be like, oh, we're at this point, beautiful summer camp. And it's like in the pictures, they'd come back, you'd be like, what? And they were like, oh, yeah. And one night we all measured our dicks in. In. In the bunk and this. And I was like, well, I think all you guys are gay. I was like, I don't think you guys realize that's a gay.

[C]

It's not a normal thing to do. Penis size.

[A]

Yeah, but compare. And so. But they were like, no, no. We all, like, sat around and like, measured it all, like, in the bunk. I mean, I don't. I never. But also, I'm from the thing of, like, I was never in. Like, when you did sports in New York City, you didn't shower with the guy. So, like, I wasn't in that culture.

[C]

Right. Yeah, right.

[A]

Where some guys who, like, these were these kids in Canada.

[C]

My husband played baseball. He's like, I've seen more penis than anyone.

[B]

And he.

[A]

He knows how, like, different races, differently.

[B]

Who shits the best.

[A]

Dominican guys stand on the toilet.

[C]

Yeah, there's a. There's a.

[A]

That's what he said.

[C]

He said half the Dominican guys, when they would. Would put their feet on the seat and just squat because growing up, they would in, like, holes in the ground. So that's the position that they're used to. It's actually the help. Any told us the healthy and correct position to take a poopy. But. So he would know because they would be in the stall, but their heads would be like, up over the door because they were on the. On the seat.

[B]

Like, it's like the magic trick when they saw the woman in half, where it's like, where are the legs?

[C]

I'd fall off.

[A]

Yeah, I wouldn't. That's. That's a lot of responsibility.

[B]

I would not be able to do it. Yeah, it. Like, they're far more flexible and. And I guess capable than I am, because that if that was the way to do it, I would just never.

[C]

If somebody was like, I'll pay you a million dollars to take a poop like this, you'd be like, I don't know if I can.

[A]

And also, like, the whole point. A lot of times when you poop, you sit down, you're like. Like, it's like a relaxing thing. Now this. There's like, imagine finishing a baseball game. You're like, now I have to stand on the toilet. Yeah, that's a tough. I don't know, that's a tough shout.

[C]

Out to people that can poop like that.

[B]

It's like they invent. They invented the squatty potty.

[A]

Yeah. 100. Yeah. They reverse. Yeah, it's a reverse engineer. Squatty Potty was like, wait, what is everyone in China doing? Because they are everyone in Japan who's living to be a hundred. How are they pooping into a hole?

[B]

Every China poops the same way, but they smoke a cigarette while they're doing it.

[A]

When you need to poop at the club, but there's no lock on the door. Wow, that's so insane.

[B]

I can't believe I forgot to bring this up. This happened like two days ago. I was at the social club, I think. I don't know, it's just some restaurant.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And the door had those. The thing where it says, like, vacant, occupied. Said vacant. Didn't knock. Walked in and saw a man shitting. And I think it was my first time as an adult walking in on something like that.

[C]

Did you lock eyes?

[B]

Locked eyes. It was the most vulnerable position I've ever seen a man in. Like, knees touching, like. Like, like when you're taking your dog on a walk. Was he looking up at you like, dude, just go to the bathroom by yourself. Why are you looking at me?

[C]

Like, dogs love to lock.

[B]

Love locking eyes.

[A]

Yeah. And tilt.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You gotta pick this up. But then I walked out and I saw my girlfriend, I was like. I was like, we gotta get out of here. Like, I can't have this guy. Come out and see him again.

[A]

I forget where it was, but it happened to me once in my. And it really does leave. That's going to be with you for years.

[B]

Forever.

[A]

You're just like, wow. It was. It was. Because then. Not only that, but they also have the frantic, like, yeah, girl way of like now. Like. And you're just like, oh, I'm so. And you're like, yeah. And now you're like, I can't wait outside the bathroom for. To go Now.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I never want to see this person.

[B]

Let's get in the car. We'll go find another one.

[A]

Yeah. All of a sudden I don't have to go to the bathroom now or later. Yeah, I'm done with the bathroom.

[C]

Yeah. That's upsetting. It was surprised you're even here.

[B]

Yeah, I did a zoom therapy last night.

[A]

You've recovered. Shout out to better health. We'll put that in the next ad. Did you walk in on someone today? Yeah. Well, speaking of Barstool, I. I have a clip that recently happened that I wanna. I wanna show you. And I think I. I would like Jamie to know what's going on over at Barstool.

[C]

I would love to see you.

[B]

Okay. Hello, Jeff. Jeff. And do is here you. Jeff didn't do is join the set. Don't. Don't. That's the first thing you're gonna do. Don't touch me. Don't touch it. Let's just settle it now. Why don't we do this? Big tough guy. Let's go in the room. No cameras. We'll see who comes out. You want to do it? You don't want to do it? Rico. Rico, sit over here. Rico, sit over here. Sit up. Let's see who comes out. A loan.

[C]

You.

[B]

You're going to die alone. No one loves you. What if we die? You're going to die alone. Bosco. Enough. Enough, enough. Hey, Jeff. How you doing? Don't do it.

[A]

I said don't do it.

[B]

His idea. And your guy couldn't sell anything. Let's do the picks. Five picks. Walk out. I said said hello. That was it. He did say hello.

[A]

That's it.

[B]

My dad, bro. Okay, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right. I mean I could have slapped him across the head or something. Nikki smokes. But then. No. I didn't out with you though. But I didn't out with you. I didn't out with you. Get the mic. Let's make it. Let's make it two for two. Well, I actually like him. Unlike you.

[A]

A lot of beef.

[B]

You're a scumbag. Yeah. How much of a scumbag? How?

[A]

Dude, I love Rico.

[B]

I think. Oh, I'm so happy you brought up this clip. And you love Rico.

[A]

I love Rico.

[B]

I think Rico is the only person who's acting sane in this video.

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[B]

Oh, wow. So, Jamie, you obviously disagree because it's clearly been.

[C]

I don't necessarily disagree. Give me more.

[B]

No, like, anyone who just saw that video should disagree. But this has been happening for six years.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Where, like, they just keep bringing this guy to mess with him and eventually you just have to fight. Like, for six years it's been. Yeah, they bicker and they. And they yell at each other. And like you, the story has to evolve eventually, right? You got to fight.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, there's no other reason to have them on the convoy, on the show. Yeah. There's no way they've had that. What we just saw, that's happened 100 times.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[B]

So, like, you just. It's got to get physical that I'm not even, like a fighter. But at some point, we got to escalate it.

[A]

You know why I'm happy you say this, too? Because I'm so sick of the. The kind of, like, online people who now just so stick to that thing of like, well, he stayed calm. He won.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Not always, right? I don't believe that. Like, just because you're calm, you won the thing. Like, you know, I. I like that people are siding with Rico. Listen, you're a writer, right?

[B]

I'm a rider. Of course.

[A]

Yeah, I'm a writer. And listen, I.

[C]

Writer.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, wait, that's not a thing. I thought that's.

[A]

No, it is.

[B]

No. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

I don't agree with the stuff he did with the Taliban, Stuff like that, but I'm.

[C]

The plot thickens.

[B]

Allegedly.

[A]

Allegedly. Allegedly. Yeah.

[B]

Listen, he's gonna be so pissed I said that.

[C]

So the guy. The guy that stayed calm. Let me ask you both this.

[A]

Jeff Nadeu.

[C]

Jeff Nadeu. If somebody was coming in your face like that and. Okay, it's a joke. It's a joke. It's a joke, but. All right. But meaning, like, he's. He's understanding that, like, you know, this is for a show. I'm here for a reason. Ignited reaction as a man, after a certain point, is there just, like, some sort of impulse that takes over? It's like, I can't take a person screaming in my face any longer. Like, I'm shocked that he didn't reach out and slap him across the face.

[B]

My. My guess is, like, at Barcelona, I believe it's been made pretty clear we can't hit each other. So, like, it. Like, there's been. There was a push once a few years ago, I think. Yeah.

[C]

He's fighting the urge, though. And would you have to fight the urge if you were in that? Because. Meaning, just like, I just can imagine that causing, like, a visceral response to be like, there's no. There's no thought process anymore. It's.

[A]

See, Jamie, the Rico riders, allegedly. This is. This is in Taliban.

[B]

He's got one very funny clip where he's so angry.

[C]

I want that sweat.

[B]

They got photo. They got pictures of me in the Taliban.

[A]

Yeah. He's like, what is it?

[B]

Where's the line?

[A]

Yeah. I could tell you when you're talking about, like, when do you get set off? I could. Like, obviously now I've been sober for 12 years, but back when I was an alcoholic, there were times where I remember feeling someone's breath on you. Once you're in a bar and things are starting to get heated, and that's kind of when you go. When you just lose it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because it's too.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And you're just like. And most of the time, like, I'm a little guy. You were like, I'm ready to get beat up. Now you're like, let's go.

[B]

This is enough.

[A]

I'm ready. Let's. Let's get beat up, you know?

[B]

But in that. Jamie explain a little more to you. Like, Nadu is, I guess, the instigator. So he does. Actually doesn't even work at barstool. Rico does. And he's kind of just like an instigator. So I think he. It's easy to stay calm when you're like, I know he can't hit me. And, yeah, I'm doing my job. Which is just to piss you off.

[C]

Got it.

[B]

And you can't do anything about it. So, like, I'm chill, but. But maybe I'm. I could be wrong on that.

[A]

No.

[C]

And also, they gave him, like, a little substance to.

[A]

Here's the thing he was told way leading up to this, you're going to come in. So he knew, okay, Rico's probably going to get really angry where Rico thought he was doing his show. It was like, if we're doing this show right now and you brought in my mortal enemy to my left and we're like, hey, Jeff.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So you're. It's a very different thing from the guy who knows, like, I'm going in here to piss someone off, you know?

[C]

Right. Well, I don't like the bangs.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's pretty much the whole look that dominates the look.

[C]

I don't like the look.

[A]

N E D U. Let's see here. Yeah, there's. Go. Go down there. There's better pictures that we could find that are a little. Yeah, no, there's. There's ones that are even less flattering.

[C]

Fade. Is that what we call that?

[B]

I don't. I actually genuinely don't know what you would ask of the bartender.

[A]

Oh, yeah, sorry. Nadu barber. Oh, wow, that's a rough one.

[B]

Yeah, he was a big guy.

[A]

Yeah, but what. What? That's.

[B]

That's a cool one.

[A]

I like that one. Shout out. You know, sometimes when you play, like, poker, they ask you for, like, a photo. I'm going to start using that one. I really like that. They. Yeah. Some. Some people say, Jamie, his haircut is a little Amish. I would never say that, but some people.

[C]

Yeah. See that one where it's like bangs. You know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Somebody like perfectly did a straight line across.

[A]

Yeah. Can you. Can you just go back to the video of that that we were watching the clip? I think.

[C]

I think that's his Pauly D era.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Great era for him. I love that photo. See.

[B]

Who'S here. Chapter has joined the set.

[A]

Yeah. Some people say Amish, but. Yeah. So pause it here.

[B]

Don't talk.

[A]

But he also claims to be a huge ladies man. Right.

[B]

He. That's his claim is that he. He can pick up. I believe it's Latinas. He specifically is.

[A]

We have a Latina right here. What do you think, James? On behalf of the Latino. On behalf of the Latina women, do you find yourself half drawn to Jeff? Nadu?

[C]

No.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

We love you, Jeff.

[B]

I like. I like that.

[C]

Yeah. That's not. Look. I only have eyes for Cutter.

[A]

Well, they look alike. No.

[C]

Nothing personal, but listen, back in the day, you know, back in the day, you never knew would be.

[A]

Yeah. You know, this Jeff Nadeu and Rico is kind of like me and Cutter's text message. Our text chain. Sometimes, yes, we get into it, and.

[C]

I love it because sometimes I'm like, rob is my voice.

[A]

Yeah, well, because sometimes, especially what we get into, too, is, like, we argue about who to follow with sports betting because, like, I like to follow guys who are extremely boring but are, like, mathematical and have proven to be winners. And he likes to follow the guys who, like, have a brick of money up to their head and use it like a phone and are like, I just won 800 parties in a row. He's like, this guy's awesome. And I'm like, no, dude, we can't watch these guys. We're going to lose with these. And we'll just. We'll argue back and forth. He'll send me clips of guys who have lost 300 parlays in a row. He's like, we got to take this one. I'm like, no, we're going to lose.

[B]

It's like watching the roulette wheel. It hasn't been read in a while.

[A]

No, it's like. It's like watching the roulette wheel, and there's no red on the wheel. And he's like, we got a bet. Red. And I'm like, no, bro, you can't. Like, I think this guy's in jail right now. Like, the sports better who. He wants to take his bet. I'm like, I think this guy's in prison.

[B]

See, I kind of go with Cutter. I'm like, he's in jail. He's got to know something.

[A]

Yeah, but not in a. He's not like, in casino when they were, like, running the prison or like, Goodfellas where they're like, make it. They're slicing garlic and everything. He's like, he got caught, like, you know, with no registration on his call, and he's in, like, a really shitty situation.

[B]

I'm like, when it comes to sports, any, though, I'm like, Kramer, where it's just like, if anyone tells me anything, I'm like, this guy knows. You know what I mean? His mother was a mother. Like, I'll bet on if someone tells me, like, you should take this bat. I'm like, done. What? I don't care what it is.

[A]

100. Yeah, that's. That's how I. When I was drinking. That's how I was. 100. Anything. There'd be some guy at the. At the bar drunker than me being like, yeah, the Celtics tonight is somebody's. I'm like, yep.

[B]

Yeah, that guy's drunk. He must be from Boston.

[A]

Yeah. And Then I lose, and I'm like, what's up with that guy at the end of the bar? He doesn't. He's not the answer.

[B]

With gambling, though, I'm my game, because I'm not. I don't bet, like, big numbers or anything like that. Like, I'm just doing it for the fun. Like, for the camaraderie. So that's. That's why if someone says something, I'm like, like, I'll. I'll go with whatever you're going with because that makes the game more fun.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. When. When I was like, when I had to explain my gambling to women I was dating, I would say something like, if I take you out to dinner and I spend $200 or if I go out on a first date, spend $200, let's say, on, you know, if I'm eating and there's drinks, if she's drinking, whatever. And then maybe I had a bad. Maybe we have a bad time, you know, and now that 200 is gone. But I would go. But if I take the $200 and I put it on the Knicks tonight, I'm guaranteed three hours of fun, and half the time I double my money. That's it.

[B]

And they were logical argument.

[A]

They would almost all go.

[C]

Always logical.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm like, thank you. Yeah, that makes sense. They'd be like, who? The next plane tonight. Yeah.

[B]

All right, I'll go down the bodega. You put in the bet?

[A]

Yeah, dude, My friend just text me. He did. He's. He runs a poker game, and all the guys at the poker game put in 200 each. He went and bought $2,000 worth of Powerball tickets.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because it's. Because it's a 1.7 now.

[A]

I think some. Yeah, some crazy.

[C]

Would you tell anyone if you won?

[B]

No. God.

[C]

Right?

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

Not until I cash the ticket. But then I cash ticket. I tell everyone.

[C]

Really? I don't think I'd tell anyone.

[A]

Oh, j.

[B]

No.

[A]

When I walk in holding the brick to my head, and I'm like, we did it, baby.

[B]

I think I would do. You know, like, there's that meme that goes around, like, you wouldn't know if I hit the lottery, but there'd be signs. Yeah, I don't even think there'd be signs. I think, like, I wouldn't tell any. It would be the biggest secret I ever kept.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Really? See, I. I'm not at all. Because I. I would live in a 10,000 square foot house with just my couch and A bed. Like, wait a minute. I thought you had. I'd have a lot of explaining to do.

[B]

See, I don't like. Like, I don't think I'd move. I don't know. Like, I just like my apartment.

[A]

Apartment.

[B]

And I don't know.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

What if I had a billion dollars tomorrow?

[A]

I just want space for friends to visit. That's it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, now I live in a one bedroom. My friends can't stay anywhere.

[C]

I've read some crazy statistic that, like, 33 of people that win the lottery claim bankruptcy at some point.

[B]

That, of course, makes sense. I feel like.

[A]

And that. Listen.

[B]

Which actually, I don't think it does. You know, I always just kind of say, that makes sense.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And I just. I don't think it does. I don't.

[C]

33%.

[B]

Like, really, if you got a billion. And obviously that's not what you. I don't know.

[C]

Right after tax, if you take the lump sum, right. And then after taxes, you've got what.

[B]

300 million or something like that?

[C]

Yeah, I would give. I would allot a certain amount for, like, each family member. I would. Yeah. Either upgrade the house, pay off the house, I mean, obviously, and then invest. Say it, Robert. What? You'd give me how much If I had 300 million?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I would give you 10.

[A]

Love it.

[B]

That's a great number.

[A]

That's great.

[C]

I'd give each family member. I don't have a big family, so, like, each family member 10. Not no one in Carter's family, though.

[A]

I'm kidding.

[C]

I'm kidding. I'm kidding.

[A]

Christmas is gonna be a little different.

[C]

You get a cashmere sweater this year.

[A]

Can you imagine? Could you imagine the couch, like your family sitting on this couch with fur coats on and everything? And then Cutter's family on the other couch eating lunchables?

[C]

No, I would never.

[A]

Look at. Look at this. Yami.

[C]

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[A]

Yeah, I just got two pair. You see them right here? I'll report next week. I'm super excited. Cutter tells me they're amazing. And listen, the underwear, like, anything. He doesn't like anything. He barely likes us. But the underwear that I wear now, I feel like when I'm in the gym, they're always bunching up. And then after, like, you know, after a month, sometimes they look like they're three years old.

[C]

Yeah. And they get, like, saggy. They look almost like a, you know, like you're like a sad old man.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

No, but now with the skims, it's like he's got. He's like back to like his baseball butt. When he's, like, walking around, I'm like, into him again.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

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[C]

That's right. So shop skims men'[e-mail] and let them know we sent you. After you place your order, select podcast in the survey and select our show in the drop down menu that follows. Okay.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

But, yeah, and then I would, I would. I would maybe like, buy out, like, you know, pay off my house or buy a vacation house, maybe money for the kids and then invest the rest of it.

[B]

So your vacation house, would you.

[C]

Where?

[B]

Where? But also, would you. Airbnb or to be a strict vacation.

[C]

No, I don't want anyone that's.

[A]

No one sleeping in my bed.

[B]

Nobody. I can't.

[C]

I could never.

[B]

I got a couple of friends who do that and, like, did nothing, like, major. Like, no one's like a landlord or anything like that, but, like, someone's got a house that they rent out. I would, I would never get a house until I can afford it. That it's just my house.

[C]

Yeah. I would not be so particular about energy in my space. I'm such a weirdo about that. And like, yeah, just having to deal.

[B]

With like, like, again, those two buddies I have who both have Airbnbs where it's like, I'll be out with them at midnight one night and they'll get a text like, hey, like, something really stupid like, hey, it's cold.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Turn the heat on.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The fridge stopped working.

[B]

Yeah. And I'm sure you could hire someone to handle that for you and all that, but, like, if it's my house, I want to be my house. I'm not trying to own a bunch of property for no reason.

[C]

Same.

[A]

Yeah. I couldn't chill ever if I knew that there were strangers in my apartment. So, like, if we were doing this pod right now and there were three strangers in my apartment, we. I'd be pretending to be here.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Like, and I would just be. Be like, oh, my God, what are they? Right? Like, what are they. Are they going through my drone? On my toilet on Airbnb? It's like, no, Dominican. Wait, what? That's. I'm like, listen, it's not a racist.

[B]

Tired of the footprints on the toilet.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[A]

So what? Well, one thing. I listen, and I know people are. This is probably going to get people so angry, but I'm just going to say it. There's all that stuff that people always talk about of, like, why. Like, if. If Elon Musk would just give his money to poor people, there'd be no more poor people. It's like, no, no, there's always going to be poor people because of what we just talked about. The people win the lotto, and they're poor three years later. But you think giving people, like, check for 60 grand one time, all of a sudden they're gonna be all right forever? It's like, that's not how it works.

[B]

But.

[A]

And one of the things. So you have a show, and I hate. I love. I loved the show. I hate saying le mascot. And I hate saying le. It freezes my brain. Every time we. Yeah.

[B]

Have, like. Like, on the show, we kind of refer in shorthand as mascots.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But the. I love lay mascots. I get. I'm with you. Where I'm always like. I kind of just say mascots.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But, like, I love that being the title, but I shorten it, and I think I'm happy that people do. Like, I remember we interviewed Rob McElhenny a while ago, and he was talking about. And it wasn't like, anything he did intentional. He was just like, I'm making the most annoying show names of all time. Like, he was there promoting Mythic Quest, which is. Has a longer name, but we all just call it Mythic Quest.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And then he's like. And then I also do It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, which is, like, just such a mouthful. And he was like, I like how other people shorten it on their own, though. And I kind of feel the same about red mascot.

[A]

See, I hate like. Like, my favorite clothing store in New York is K I T H. I won't say nope.

[C]

Don't say it.

[A]

I won't say nope.

[C]

Heebie jeebies down the spine.

[B]

Why? What's. Why would you say it?

[A]

Say it. James.

[C]

Nope.

[B]

K I T H. Oh, I know the store.

[A]

How would you. How do you say the name?

[B]

Kith.

[A]

I hate. I'd rather walk in on you than hear you say that word again. It's, it's so.

[C]

It's like, it's like the word. I'm like, you are not getting, getting anything for like at least.

[A]

I feel it in my spine when people say that word. I'm like, oh, I just hate.

[B]

Can I make it so much worse for you? Do you know about their new thing?

[A]

No.

[B]

That they just made in New York? I like literally I just saw it yesterday. It's the K I T H lounge or something like that.

[C]

Oh, this is the air one type.

[B]

With an air one. Yeah.

[C]

Wait, you tell them about it.

[B]

It's a, it's a.

[C]

It's a private club. Right.

[B]

Private club with an erewhon and padel and it's 36. Well, it's 36 grand initiation fee.

[A]

Is it error one or is it just the smoothie bar?

[B]

I believe it's just a smoothie, but I could be wrong on that.

[A]

Yeah. I need the fuller one. I need the hot bar. Yeah. But anyway, my point was right, cuz like you're. So your show is about the mascots in Times Square. It's about the Elmo and the Cookie Monster. What I think would be the best is to do a follow up documentary on the people who actually pay the mascots to take photos with them. And by the way, that brings me back to what I was saying, which is there will always be poor people.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because anybody who is taking their kids to Times Square and taking photos with Filthy, filthy Elmo, they're drunk.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They're. They, they smell. They're filthy dirty. It's so disgusting. And people are like, hey son, go take like those people will always like.

[C]

Is it on donation or do they. They give you a price?

[A]

Oh, this has been going on for 15 years, right? Oh, it's the Elmo Cookie Monster.

[B]

I would guess longer. It's been going on as long as I known of New York City when.

[A]

See for me growing up, that was not a thing.

[B]

Oh really?

[A]

Okay, that came in later. There were like the spider mans and the never in time. It was always. It was horrors in time.

[B]

Oh, that's right. Yeah.

[A]

All whores. Yeah, it was, it was a bunch of really bad. Who's the woman? Not Captain America. Who's the woman?

[C]

Black Widow.

[A]

No.

[B]

Wonder Woman.

[A]

Wonder Woman.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It was a bunch of bad Wonder Woman. It's just a bunch of. And the Times Square was like. I remember as a kid you don't go through Times Square.

[B]

Yeah. Like, honestly I totally forget that. That was that was all Giuliani, right?

[C]

He bought it, basically.

[B]

Yeah, right. Yeah.

[A]

Margaritaville have a 10 pound Reese's Cup. It's like, oh, it's like get fat and take pictures with feel like.

[C]

So do that. Do they hold out their hands and say like 10 bucks, 20 bucks, or did they just hold out their hands and you give what you got?

[B]

I believe it's a give what you got situation. We didn't, we didn't really interact with them too much. They. They could also. First of all, I think very stupidly because we wrote the show and in the writing of the show we had a boss. And so we just assumed they all had a boss when we showed up. They don't. They have no boss. Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

Well, wasn't there a documentary on the ones that do it on, on like Hollywood Boulevard or something?

[B]

I'm sure there is. That. That's with the, The Spider Man's. Yes. Yeah, yeah. In front of the. The Chinese Theater.

[C]

Exactly. Yeah, exactly.

[A]

Think about how much in, in the last 20 years has been spent on those people for them to still stay there. Not only stay there, but they fight.

[B]

For territory that they, they do fight for territory.

[A]

So they got to be making. What do you. How.

[C]

How much were they smoking weed in a gar before they walked out to the photo?

[A]

This is.

[B]

Is sick.

[C]

That's it. Confessions of a Superhero.

[B]

This is an awesome.

[A]

That's an awesome photo.

[B]

That's an awesome photo and an awesome name. I'm definitely gonna. I actually never watch documentaries and I'm definitely.

[C]

It's a good one. It's wild.

[B]

But they also, they, they like. I don't really know what their game is because they, they don't hassle you again. As far as you know, we didn't interact a ton and they, they. I, I went in with. To it with the preconceived notion that they were gonna hate us. Us that like we were on their turf, we're stealing their money, all that stuff. They couldn't have cared less about us.

[A]

Well, they've been kind of put in their place because in the beginning when they first came to Times Square, they were just running around doing whatever they wanted. And then they got put into a space. Oh, they got made to like, you have to stay here. You can't do this, you can't do that. Because it used to be just the wild, wild West.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

When they first rolled up and then it started, it caused a lot of problems.

[B]

One of the days we were filming, a cop came up to me and he was like, hey, just so you know, if you're gonna take money, you got to be inside this tape. And I. I was like, oh, no, no, we're not taking money. We're just. We're doing a show. And actually, everyone at times grinded up loving it. And he loved the show and they were all very helpful and stuff like that. But I was. I didn't know what he meant by that. By, like, you had to be inside this red tape. So. Yeah, that makes sense.

[A]

In the beginning, it was just. They could do whatever the. And it was like chaos. Like, it was real. And they were fighting. There were tons of fights. Like, I remember seeing videos of, like, Spider man fighting, you know, like Elmo. And it was like, this is not what Marvel thought. Like, or whatever. All these, like, memes.

[B]

Back in the day, I got in a fight filming.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah, it was. And we. The footage is in episode one. It is.

[A]

Which part I watched.

[B]

It's. It's the when. When. Sorry, Dustin is. Is doing like an overlay voiceover where he's like. And then let. It led to a brawl. Oh, it was. I, like, gotten a three point stance in front of Kong.

[A]

Like, that was very fun.

[B]

We were gonna have fun. And he wasn't interested, which is totally fine.

[A]

Yeah. And then some reason, he was doing a three point Ohio.

[B]

And then the director was like, he's like, I tried another game with another guy and I get in front of Batman and I get into the three point stance again. And when you're in the Cookie Monster head, once you kind of bend down, you can't see anymore. So I was just in the three point stance and I started getting pushed. And I was like, oh, hell yeah. Batman's into it. So I started pushing him back a little bit. Then he pushed harder and I pushed a little harder. And then next thing I know, I felt a cold. I had the helmet on, luckily. So, like, it absorbed basically 100% of the punch.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

But I felt like the intent behind it. And so I kind of stepped back and took the helmet off. And it was just a homeless guy, head down, swinging, and I hadn't seen him step in between. Batman.

[C]

Cameraman, or nobody's gonna help.

[B]

No. And then so I tried to walk away, and they're like, he wants more. Go back. And I was like, yeah, he might. I fucking don't.

[A]

Dude.

[B]

I want to fight a homeless guy in Times Square.

[A]

Oh, the art.

[C]

For the shot.

[A]

What. What. What number employee were you at Barstool?

[B]

I was number five.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

This is a long, long time ago.

[C]

When was that?

[B]

That was like 20. I honestly, I don't even know technically when I became an employee, so to speak, but I started working there in 2010, I think the fall of 20.

[C]

Oh, my gosh.

[B]

Wait, so I would have graduated college? Yeah. So in the fall of 2010, I started working there, and then I think I became full time, like an official employee. I honestly don't know when it was. I would guess a year or two later, but I'm not positive about that.

[A]

And what was your. Like, what do you think got you in the door there?

[B]

I have no idea, guys. I probably shouldn't have. Yeah. Because I didn't graduate college and I wasn't. I didn't have, like, this is all pre podcast and stuff like that, so.

[A]

This is Jamie. I know what you're wondering. Yes. Rico and Adu both graduated college with honors.

[C]

Thank you.

[B]

Wait, I'm sorry, what was the question?

[A]

What got you in the door? Like, how did you.

[C]

So it was pre podcast. So what was Barstool?

[B]

It was just blog. So it was just. We were just writers and I. I had written. I had kept the blog that was not good. And I did not regularly keep it. And I kind of sent that. And then. And then I was just like an. I did a million things. I actually, like, I started as an intern and then we had this thing called the Barstool Blackout Tour, which was this nationwide EDM show that was insane. Like, it was. It was crazy. It was four of us in a Chevy Silverado and we had a trailer and we had Dante. We would drive around to, like, all colleges across the country with just. We would pull up, we would set up the show, and then we'd have this big concert and I would be in a mascot costume, actually, and I would dance on stage. And that was my full time job at the time. And then it was blogging and podcasting and video, and it kind of just evolved. But when I. When I first started, I was just an intern.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

I. I think one day, like, they're gonna make the Barstool movie. And I think it's gonna be really fucking good if they do it right.

[B]

They do. They're working on the book right now.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Who would you want to play you in the movie?

[B]

Oh, I honestly got, like, in a barstool movie. I won't really be in that.

[A]

No, but you know, you're gonna. If they did, like, who do you want? You know, it's like if you watch a Howard Stern movie Everybody in it. So who do you think?

[B]

Who? I. Ah, God. Shia Buff, I think.

[A]

Sh.

[B]

O.

[A]

That's good. Yeah. Sh. But now you got to have a big role now.

[B]

Yeah. Well, actually, I feel like Shia likes doing weird.

[C]

Say Shia would be like, I've never dressed in a mascot.

[A]

Yeah. He's getting beat up by bums in Times Square. He's like, this is what they did.

[B]

Yeah, that's a good choice.

[C]

I like it.

[A]

I think, honestly. Wait, what is this? What is this right there?

[B]

Oh, this is. I think it'll probably be.

[C]

Oh, this was you at the concert? No. Oh, no, this is it.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, there you go. And here's Mr. Where's my hug At? Just begging for attention. And then there was a homeless guy.

[A]

Was that red band against him?

[B]

Which ended up leading to a backyard brawl. His. His initial left. Really connected.

[A]

Dude.

[C]

Oh, my gosh.

[A]

So are you guys one camera in Times Square? How many cameras you got going?

[B]

We had probably about three. Usually one to three somewhere in between then. But it was like, it was really, really, really fun to shoot. In fact, while we were shooting, I was remembering you on KFC radio talking about how you loved. You didn't love acting, you loved the camaraderie on set of the Sopranos.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I very much felt that on this, where I was like. I remember always thinking, I was like, this is exactly what Rob was talking about. Like, this is just fucking fun, hanging out with your friends and, like, making shit.

[C]

That's actually the thought I got looking at. This was like, how fun. Like, you know, any, like, embarrassment or, like, self consciousness is out the window when you're, like, with your friends and, like, let's do this. You feel like kids again.

[B]

It was. That's a perfect way to put it. Like, it was. And I. I've always been somewhat reserved. Like. Like, I'll. I'll get nuts if we got to get nuts. But, like, I'm. I'm more or less a pretty quiet guy. And, like, I was nervous about doing all this without being on set, so to be like, I've never acted. I've never done any of this. So I was like, this is gonna be. They're good and awkward.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The out of order stuff is great too, man.

[B]

It's been.

[A]

Some of those skits are great.

[B]

Thank you. Owen Roeder is the writer. Mikey Pavanelli the director. They're fucking unbelievable. Yeah, they're really, really, really talented kids, and I'm lucky they didn't have anyone else to ask. Yeah. But it was like, yeah, that. Like, it was just so. And I. Look, what I say was like, I was introverted. Not introverted, because everyone else uses that.

[C]

But you're not, like, attention seeking.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Not like. Yeah.

[B]

And I was like, I don't know how I'm gonna be fucking running around yelling in Times Square. And then the second we got out there, I was like, never mind. This is fun. This is a good time.

[C]

So great.

[A]

Even now, when I look back at, like, doing Tom's show, Bad thoughts, I look back and I'm like. Like, my brain is so torn between, like, I hated it, but also so great, really, Because I just hate. Like, listen, I'm very spoiled. I'm fucking 40 years old. I haven't worked in 20 years. But when. When I was. You know, when I was six years old, I was working.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So it's like, now I'm like, I don't want someone to tell me, like, I'll see you at 5am It's. It makes my stomach turn. Like, I'm like, this fucking sucks. And, like, I remember showing up on set and it was still dark out, and just being like, I. I would walk into the makeup trailer and Tom would be in there. I'd be like, I hate you, dude. I hate you. But we're having so much fun.

[B]

It's so funny you're saying that because, like, literally before I walked in here, I'm having a text about exactly that. Where we're supposed to do a scene tomorrow morning at 5:00am and I like, guys, my flight lands at, like, 1. Could we. Could we push it? And, like, it's got to be dusk. I'm like, son of a. Yeah, it's.

[A]

It's the word. It's. It's such a fucking. You know. And then, like, you know, I don't know if you saw bad thoughts, but I'm, like, sitting on a man's lap and just. There were parts of it where I'm like, this is the worst thing ever. And then there were parts where I was like, I can't believe this is a job.

[B]

But that's, like. That's what I find so much fun about acting. And obviously, I'm like, defer to you two on this. But the. The stress. And then once we get like, I'm stressed. I've been more stressed in my life in the last year than I've ever been. I'm constantly stressed.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And. But then once we're doing it, I'm having so much fun. I'm like, okay. This is what all the stress was for.

[C]

It's a ride.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Oh, thanks for bringing that up.

[C]

Well, look, that's another way to take a puppy too. Yeah, that's another way.

[A]

That's how I, when I was on a baseball team, that's how I used to do it.

[C]

You know what? The only thing that would make that so much better is if your feet didn't hit the ground.

[B]

Yeah. Like little raised toilet.

[A]

Like a barbershop. Yeah. Sitting on a phone book on his lap, taking a little, yeah, it was. But, but like, I mean, the, the just like the, you know, like elevator pitch of like barstool of like so I don't know if you know, but like, so Dave Portnoy started it as like a newspaper and he would drive around delivering the newspaper to people.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And then like he sold, he sold the company once.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

For hundreds of millions.

[B]

Whatever. 500 something. Like 400 something.

[A]

Yeah, right. And then he sold it a second time.

[B]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[A]

First time was the Turner.

[B]

First time was the churning. Churning, which I, I honestly, I don't know what that price was. I, I would guess cup like a sub 20, but I, but that's a total.

[A]

And it was for a piece of it, right?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah. And then he sold it a second time for 500 million.

[B]

That was, that was like churning. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

To pen 550 million. And then Jamie, I don't know if you know the story, but Penn wanted to move on and they wanted to now work with espn. So they were going to sever ties from barstool and they sold it back to him for a dollar.

[C]

So they took a 550 million dollar loss.

[B]

Yeah, we're laughing with you. I, I, I know as much as the three of you, the two of you do sitting here, but I, as I understand it. Yes, that's what happens.

[A]

That is crazy. Yeah. So maybe it's true if people, if, if big corporations did give their money away to people, everyone would be all right. Because five be able to be like, yeah, we'll just write it off.

[B]

Yeah. Right.

[A]

That is. But I mean, to Dave, like, I, I love Dave, I love barstool. But just to be like, I wish, I wish there was a camera on him or he did an interview right after. It was like, we're gonna give you the company back for a dollar.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Like what? That must have felt like.

[B]

If I know Dave, he was probably just very calm and like, okay, like I, I don't think he would have gone nuts. I I don't. I. A gun. Of course. I don't know, but I would guess he was just like, we're.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, listen, I don't know. Dave personally, I watch a lot. I watch all the pizza reviews. I listen to it. But I think there had to be some sense of that, like that red, like just, just. I don't, I don't know what the feeling is, but I think it had to be a little more than just like all right. Like, because that's, I mean imagine I.

[C]

Might have gone home and stood on his toilet.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Just everywhere. Because I think like, you know when, when it, when it got sold to Pen, there were the people who were like, oh, now it's different.

[B]

Or yes.

[A]

Because you had to watch what you say and you couldn't be back and now.

[B]

And those people were right.

[A]

Right.

[B]

We liked it.

[A]

We.

[B]

I, I was one of the people being like, they don't know what they're talking about. In retrospect, they were right. Like, but it wasn't a top down thing. It was like, you know, Penn never told us to act different. It was just you start acting different in a different environment.

[A]

Yeah. Because how did it feel different?

[B]

It was just like I don't just with, with being a. And I, I don't speak to how it's different in my head but like I would, I would think sometimes of like, well, this is a publicly traded company so like if I up like I'm. I could ruin someone's retirement. Like. Yeah, it wasn't an active thought. It wasn't something like I said to myself before I sat in front of a microphone. But like I would occasionally be reminded of it.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And then also just with gambling came so many regulations and regulators and different people checking in on different things. So you were just like again, in my head I would like, I'll just do it the most basic way so it doesn't get flagged on anything. And again, no one ever told me to do that. No one was ever like, hey, be more reserved or say different things. But it was just. I started acting different just because like, you know, I act different when I'm at my grandparents house versus my parents house versus my horse kind of deal. So I think that I would imagine that affected everybody. Like it affected me a little bit.

[A]

Yeah, it was. I mean what a thing to watch from the outside as just a fan of. Just because I know like, like my feeling for Dave when they sold it back for a dollar, it was like, this is the great like What? What? How could it have been better? Yeah, if you. It's one of those things where, like, if you wrote the story, how could it have been better? Like, imagine if somebody came and was like, we want to buy your podcast for half a billion dollars. And then they were like, hey, we want it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll take half of a. Half of a. Half of a billion. And then being like, like, hey, sorry, we got to give it back to you for it. Like, though. And like, I think there was part. Because I remember Dave after it being like, I'm never selling this company again. So there had to be a feeling that he was, you know, like, he wasn't like, well, how could I make this happen again? Like, he was like, I got my thing back. There had to be some.

[B]

He kind of had a similar. Guessing. I think he had a similar thing where he's just like, I'm sick of dealing with regulators and stuff like that. And parcel beforehand. We never had to do that. Never had to after. I obviously understand why there are regulators involved in gambling, but, you know, when you're so used to. And he's been doing this 25 years, maybe something like that. Like, you're so used to being like, I don't have anyone to check in with. This is my company. I'm my own person. I'm gonna do it. I think you probably. That probably wears thin eventually.

[C]

That's kind of the culture. And, like, what made Barstool Barstool absolutely was like, you know, the not rogueness, but the just kind of, we are who we are, and this is how we do.

[B]

We don't report to anybody. Like, that really was. That's a great, like, observation. Like, it was the pirate ship is what we called it, where it was. And the goal is, of course, always to sell something like that.

[C]

Of course.

[B]

But then when you sell a pirate ship to a museum, like, they're going to. They're going to decorate a little differently.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They're going to say things on this pirate ship go a little differently. And again, Penn didn't. But I think we all just kind of.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Not we all. Me. I'm sorry, I want to speak for me.

[C]

No. Yeah, for sure.

[A]

But even. Even, like, Dave pays a lot of money to, like, hire security. And then after Rico and the dude got into the fight, he's like, why do I pay security? It's always like. He's just. It's like, nobody reports anybody. And then, like, the next day, like, Dave kind of ream somebody out the next Day. It's like. It's all right.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, you know, it's just the best.

[B]

It's kind of like there. There is a part of Barcelona I feel like, is a very healthy lifestyle where it's like it doesn't matter, like, what you say, what you do. Like, obviously it matters and it really matters, but it also doesn't like tomorrow, like, you still gotta go to work. Whatever happened today, you still gotta show up to work tomorrow. And I think we all kind of do a good job at handling that, I guess.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

It depends who you. Again, who. Depends who you talk to.

[A]

Right? Yeah.

[B]

But it's a very, very fun environment that he's created that, like. I mean, like, this show. This is actually the biggest testament I can give to Dave. And Barstool is like, this is a big production. This is. This is hard to do. We didn't clear it with anybody. You know what I mean? Like, no one looked at the script. No one looked at the first episode before we posted it. And you could make the argument that, like, some people might like that, but if you're looking for creative freedom, we couldn't possibly have more like. It is.

[C]

That's usually the breeding ground for great things.

[B]

Yeah. Hopefully.

[C]

When you let people just explore.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And even if you fall flat on your face, you're very. You. You discover things through those moments. When there's restrictions you just. You can't grow.

[B]

Right. Where he's just like, he. He gives us that free.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And I'm not even. I don't even know if he gives it. It's just like he doesn't care.

[C]

It's just the environment.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You get those aha moments when you're getting. You're getting punched in the head.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, listen, we appreciate you coming in.

[C]

Yeah. That was.

[A]

Again, flies. But, man, you make time fly by. I don't know how you do it. 48 minutes. I know. We're in here for 20 minutes. Listen, Feidelberg, which. So Le Mascot.

[B]

Le Mascot Mascots.

[A]

Yeah, it's tough for me. My brain just stopped out of order. The. The sketches are fantastic. KFC radio.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What else?

[B]

That's it. That's. That's the. That's the. That's the whole gamut right there. But Le Mascots, KFC Radio, people really like it, so I hope you like it too, but give it a shot. I think. I think people will. It's. It's just fun. There's. It's not a show that's trying to do anything other than make you laugh and have fun.

[C]

We need more of those things.

[A]

You could also find them tomorrow in Times Square at sunrise if you're looking the glory of. You know. So wait, did you. Quick question before you go. Did you guys pay any, like, extras or hire any extras or any. Or. They were.

[B]

No, that. Like that. And maybe that's another thing about, like, why I think it's so cool is because, like, I've just been so lucky with. Or we've all been so lucky with all our friends who. Who were like, no, we want to help, like. Ari Shafir plays my brother. Never asked for a dime. Ben Bailey, Cash Cab. He's in it. Never asked for a dime. A Bella Danger. I don't know if you know who that is. She's in the show. There's, like, a lot of people in the show who definitely deserve money for their time. And they're like, no, no, we just want to be a part of it.

[A]

What about the people? Like, in Times Square? Like, when you're doing shit in Times Square and there's people walking by, you just. Fuck it.

[B]

Yeah, the. So we checked out the law on that. As long as people aren't speaking into the. Like, to the camera. If you're in public, you can. You're. It's.

[A]

They're allowed to hit you.

[B]

Yeah, Right.

[A]

Throw feces. Just as long as they don't talk into the camera, then they're good.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The stupid rules of show business. All right, man. Thank you so much.

[B]

Thank you so much. This is a real honor. Thank you.

[A]

And we'll see you guys next week.

[C]

Not today.

[B]

Hey, not today.