Farting Freely In Driverless Taxis | Not Today, Pal

Summary

Not Today, Pal — Farting Freely In Driverless Taxis

Podcast: Not Today, Pal with Jamie-Lynn Sigler & Robert Iler
Host Studio: YMH Studios
Episode Date: September 11, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode is a classic showcase of Jamie-Lynn Sigler and Robert Iler’s hilarious, heartfelt, and honest dynamic. Alternating between lighthearted banter and deep reflection, the former Sopranos siblings discuss everything from their philosophies on work, embracing joy after grief, and therapy journeys — to the absurd realities (and freedoms) of riding in a driverless taxi. The show also includes their group’s quirks, parenting in the age of tech, and a lively brainstorm for an upcoming podcast game show episode.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. On Taking or Passing on Acting Jobs

• Robert is surprised Jamie chooses not to take “cash grab” acting gigs:
  • “Sometimes it’s surprising to me that you won’t just take cash grabs... I think I would just be like, fine, fuck it.” (01:28, Robert)
• Jamie: She’s reached a place where happiness and fulfillment are the priority, especially with different income streams now.
  • “I don’t want to be in something that I know I’m not enjoying... that’s such a waste of everybody’s time, and especially mine.” (00:57, Jamie)
  • “I don’t have an ego and a preciousness about projects... It’s just not where I’m at right now.” (02:11, Jamie)

2. Brainstorming a Podcast Game Show

• The hosts get energized planning an in-studio game show competition — boys vs. girls, with staff as team members, buzzer ideas, team colors, and what games to choose.
  • Jamie: “I’m gonna come in so jacked up, too. I’m gonna take one of Cutter’s Adderalls. I’m gonna fucking lock in, man.” (04:03, Jamie)
• They riff on possible games: Family Feud, Pyramid/Password, Jeopardy, Supermarket Sweep, Hollywood Squares, Name That Tune, a Newlywed-style quiz, etc.
• Memorable banter:
  • Jamie: “Supermarket Sweep would be the best.”
    Robert: “That would be so—”
    Jamie: “Oh my God. I want one on my nightstand. Put one on my tombstone.” (07:56–08:06)
• Lots of joyful chaos as they imagine set rearrangements, energy levels, and what competitions would translate well for listeners.

3. Jamie on Rediscovering Singing After Grief

• Jamie shares her complex relationship with singing. She started lessons at age 8, stopped at 25 due to physical limitations and emotional pain, and only recently began to let herself experience singing for joy again because of her son Bo’s interest.
  • “Singing became, like, a point of grief for me. So now it’s just a point of simple joy.” (10:53, Jamie)
  • “I wasn’t... singing in the shower. I wouldn’t even sing a note.” (11:26, Jamie)
• Robert admires her shift, reflecting on his compulsion to sing despite not being musically talented.
• Jamie: “I think I’m in a time in my life where I’m just accepting. I’m not fighting what I have anymore... There’s, like, a settling in of myself.” (15:07, Jamie)

4. Therapy, Healing, and Perspective

• Jamie opens up about her profound year: nearly losing her child, processing waves of grief, and the healing impact of both EMDR and ketamine therapy.
  • “Grief is waves. It’s like an ocean. It really just takes you for a ride and you have no control.” (15:53, Jamie)
  • “I did ketamine therapy, which is the most powerful thing I’ve ever experienced in my life.” (15:48, Jamie)
  • She describes reconnecting with a long-lost friend during a ketamine session as a “confirmation” of realness beyond rational explanation.
    • “She texted me during it: ‘You just popped in my mind...’ I was like, okay, I’m a believer.” (19:31, Jamie)

5. Life Lessons & Following Your Gut

• A segment where they swap takeaways they’d give a young adult:
  • Jamie: “Life will continue to bring you to the same road until you choose to take it... it’s usually the road that you’re most resistant to.” (21:39, Jamie)
  • Robert: “I always have to go with my gut on things... If I ever listen to other people and that thing ends up not being the right thing, I hold so much resentment... mainly to me.” (23:15, Robert)
• Both touch on regrets, personal growth, and how therapy and even non-therapeutic drug experiences have shifted their perspectives.

6. Memory Lane & Old Annoyances

• Robert recalls the only time Jamie let him down: after a NYC play, she left without telling him, and he waited outside.
  • Robert: “I was just shocked I didn’t have a text being like ‘Hey, I bounced’... but again, you always do the right thing.” (27:00, Robert)
• They share self-deprecating stories about annoying personal habits: loud sneezing, sinus noises, sighing, burping, moaning kids, and more.
  • “Cutter does a lot of weird sinus noises.” (29:44, Jamie)
  • “People have pointed out that I audibly sigh a lot. That’s good. I think that’s healthy.” (33:35, Jamie)

7. Kids, Homework, and AI Parenting

• Discussion of lazy or non-existent summer homework for kids today.
• Jamie notes ChatGPT is already her tool for future math homework:
  • “If... he brings it home, I will ChatGPT everything. For sure.” (36:44, Jamie)
  • She also has “trained” ChatGPT to counsel her in her preferred tough-love style. (37:16, Jamie)
    • “It knows me now... it’ll be like, ‘Well, let’s bring your MS into this.’” (37:54, Jamie)
• Funny side note: Robert stayed with someone who used ChatGPT so much it was “like there were three people in the apartment.” (36:50)

8. Therapeutic and Recreational Drug Use

• Jamie jokes about ketamine therapy, and Robert compares it to his recreational drug days.
• Jamie: “Had I been alone or in any other situation I would have freaked the fuck out.” (38:44, Jamie)

9. Driverless Taxis — Farting Freely & Existential Dread

• Robert tries his first driverless cab and is surprised by how much he enjoys having total privacy, especially the ability to “fart freely.”
  • “I was farting like crazy, and I’m like, there’s no — I don’t have to hold back at all.” (43:35, Robert)
• Philosophical debate: Is it better to halve fatalities by using autonomous vehicles, even if deaths are due to robots? Both wrestle with discomfort and perceived unnaturalness:
  • Robert: “For some reason, it seems more natural to me that, like, humans are killing 40,000 people compared to robots killing 20,000.” (41:14, Robert)
  • Jamie: “I’m just uncomfortable with all of it... putting your life in a robot’s hands... feels very scary to me.” (42:04, Jamie)
• They also riff on robot fails, referencing viral “robot freakout” videos — immediately comparing Jamie’s ketamine trip to a malfunctioning robot. (45:06–46:01)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “Singing became, like, a point of grief for me. So now it’s just a point of simple joy.” (10:53, Jamie)
• “All true healing to me is just a shift in perspective. It doesn’t mean your circumstances change, but when you look at things differently, you can feel better.” (15:53, Jamie)
• “Life will continue to bring you to the same road until you choose to take it... and it’s usually the one you’re most resistant to.” (21:39, Jamie)
• “If I ever listen to other people and that thing ends up not being the right thing, I hold so much resentment... mainly to me.” (23:15, Robert)
• “I’m gonna come in so jacked up, too. I’m gonna take one of Cutter’s Adderalls. I’m gonna fucking lock in, man.” (04:03, Jamie)
• “I was farting like crazy, and I’m like, there’s no — I don’t have to hold back at all.” (43:35, Robert)
• “Putting your life in a robot’s hands... getting in a car and letting a robot drive you around, feels very scary to me.” (42:04, Jamie)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Passing on Acting Work, Prioritizing Happiness — 00:28–02:33
• Game Show Brainstorm & Banter — 02:33–09:13
• Jamie on Singing, Joy, and Grief — 10:04–15:48
• Therapy, Healing, and Ketamine — 15:48–20:37
• Life Lessons & Gut Instinct — 21:22–24:13
• Memory Lane & Old Annoyances — 25:19–29:23
• Annoying Habits (Friends, Family, & Colleagues) — 29:24–34:51
• Kids, Homework & AI Talk — 35:10–38:02
• Therapeutic/Ketamine Discussion — 38:02–39:01
• Driverless Taxi Experience & Debate — 40:00–44:58
• Robot Videos & Podcast Wrap-up — 45:06–46:27

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Final Thoughts

The episode is quintessential Not Today, Pal: ping-ponging between hysterical takes on modern life and deeply relatable moments of vulnerability. It’s equally insightful for fans curious about Jamie and Robert’s growth, healing, and adaptability as it is laugh-out-loud funny for anyone wondering about the etiquette of flatulence in a robot-driven world. The duo’s chemistry, honesty, and warmth make their conversations rich — whether discussing trauma therapy or the joys of not having to tip (or hold in a fart) in a driverless cab.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

Not today.

[A]

Before the cameras, before we started, you were just talking about how you, I, it's, it's, sometimes it's surprising to me that you won't just take, like, cash grabs when it comes to, like, acting. Like, if it's, if, like you were just talking about you had an audition for something and you were like, I'll pass. Because even though it's probably gonna be a big thing, you were like, it just was not. We won't get into the specifics.

[B]

Yeah, well, I think I've, I've, I don't know if I've earned the right, but I have come to a place in my life where I just, I don't want to be in a position that I, I mean, I'm preaching to the choir here that I don't, like, I don't want to be in something that I know I'm not enjoying. Like, that should be for somebody that wants to be there. If I don't, if I'm going to take a position that's not going to make me happy, that's such a waste of everybody's time and especially mine. For me. Yeah, Yeah.

[A]

I would just, you know, I could, like, I also, I kind of get to the point sometimes with acting where, like, if I was doing it as much as you were, like, you know, you do stuff, you audition for things. This, If I was active in that way and I got offered like these cash grabs, I think I would just be like, fine, fuck it. Like, I don't, Yeah, I don't. Especially if it's a movie. If it's a movie and, you know, the beginning, middle and end and you could be done.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

When it's a show and you don't know what's coming, it's tougher.

[B]

Yes, yes. And that's a, could possibly be a very long yeared commitment.

[A]

And do you, do you also worry, like, I don't want this on my resume?

[B]

No, I'm, I'm over that. I, I, I think it's the Wild west now. You know what I mean? Like, I don't, I. Oh, yeah, you're.

[A]

Doing this, you're doing this pod. Yeah.

[B]

No, I just, I don't, I don't have an Ego and a preciousness about projects. I think it's more. Am I gonna. Am I gonna be happy? As I have other streams of income at the moment. And I just. I don't know. It's just. It's not where I'm at right now. Who knows where it. I could be a year or two from now, but right now, no.

[A]

Well, that's something you don't want to do. And now I'm very excited to bring to you something I think you're really gonna want to do.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And I'm not. I'm not joking around. This is something I think you're gonna be really excited about. So I think what we want to do, either next week or in two weeks, we'll figure out how long it's going to take to do. I think we should do a little game show here. I think we. So here's what. Here's what I'm thinking. I know, I know. Here comes the autism. I don't know how. I don't know how you want to set it up. Here's what I was thinking, but I think you. You know, we'll. We'll figure it out. I'm thinking it's me against you.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

We do three games, and again, because of copyright things.

[B]

Three rounds.

[A]

Three rounds. Yeah. We'll do something like. But not a Family Feud.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Something like. But not like the kind of pyramid, like, passwordy thing. I don't really. I don't find Wheel of Fortune fun. And also, like, you need the thing. I don't like Wheel of Fortune. I'd rather do something else.

[B]

Reveal letters for us.

[A]

No, I know, but I think I'd rather find a third one we could talk about. This. I didn't want to talk about to you now because I wanted to reveal to you on the podcast. But what I'm thinking is what I think could be fun is what if me and you each pick a team? What if we pick people?

[B]

What if we pick girls versus boys? Let's go girls.

[A]

Okay. You want to do that?

[B]

Yeah. As long as you guys are comfortable with me on your team. Okay. Yeah, I'd prefer it. Okay, great.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I'm gonna come in so jacked up, too. I'm gonna take one of Cutter's Adderalls. I'm gonna fucking lock in, man.

[A]

Yeah, you're just. You guys are gonna win.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

So. Because what I was thinking for. For. For. Maybe. Maybe we'll let cougar and any fight it out or do. Or do Zolo. I want Zolo on the squad. But then. But then, do we need. Who do we need?

[B]

Maybe you need Tanner, because he's so young, like pop culture.

[A]

I was thinking, do I want to go content and I go with Tanner. But if I actually want to win, I was thinking that I maybe go Zolo Any. Because. Because I know any was with us at the. The. The breakout house, whatever that thing was, the escape room, and I liked his vibe.

[B]

He did. He did commit.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I was really appreciative.

[A]

He was willing to do anything to win, including cheat. He did also cheat, right?

[B]

He did try to pick a lock.

[A]

Yeah. So that's. But. But that's what I'm saying. If. If the. If the three of you and then any are not in the booth, do we have a crew to work the pod? If. If we.

[B]

All right. I guess it depends who's here with us that day.

[A]

Yeah, we can work it. Okay, so. So here's. Here's what I'm thinking. All we need. Really?

[B]

I'm, like, already hearing, like, game show music in my head right now. I'm so happy.

[A]

Yeah. So. Yeah. So then that's the thing. Jamie. Jamie will get on calls after work for this. Like, we got Jamie's full attention.

[B]

Yeah, I will. I will. You know how good I am at arts and crafts. I'll build something. What do you need?

[A]

So what do we. We need, like a buzzer, right? We need, like. We need, like, two buzzers.

[B]

We can just get little bells.

[A]

But. But again, I think we need, like. I think we need to change this set for a day.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And do, like, standing on this side. Standing on that side. Do we have that? Okay, Zolo. Do we have something where like.

[B]

Like something we could stand behind each of us? Well, why can't we just have two. The two benches. We could just put the two benches.

[A]

Because I think we. I think if we're gonna do a game show, we should be standing, if you're all right with that. I. I would rather be standing at the. I think it brings an energy.

[B]

As long as I have something to lean on, I'm fine.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. Yeah, we get. We get that thing. We'll. We'll look at the place that we did the game shows and show them, and maybe we get something like it. But it's like, I don't like, like, the Dr. Drew's desk or, you know, whatever. We have two of those. Even if it's just one long thing, I think the energy of a game.

[B]

Show, like, it needs you to stand.

[A]

Yeah. You want to be standing out. You want to be amped up. We're like, if we're all just gonna wear.

[B]

Do we have a team color?

[A]

Whatever you want.

[B]

We need to discuss.

[A]

Yeah. Are we doing team names or just boys versus girls?

[B]

Yes, we will think of this.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

There's a lot of creative people here that I'm gonna hand that baton to.

[A]

What. What do we think? Because if. If we're talking three games, Right. So we do something that's like the pyramid password kind of thing. We do something that's the Family Feud type thing. What's it. What's a good third game that we can do?

[B]

Pictionary.

[A]

Like, have to draw it maybe. I don't know. I don't. I don't love that. For the listeners.

[B]

Right. Okay. Right. We'll figure it for listening. So it'd be like, just a question and answer.

[A]

Yeah. We could figure out. We could figure out a third game.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, there's, like, Name that tune.

[A]

Yeah. But we can't do music on here because of copyright. Whatever. We'll. We'll. We won't bore the listeners with this part. We'll figure this part out. But we'll get. We'll get a third. We'll just. We'll just. What. What are the top 10 most popular game shows? Can you Google that?

[B]

Because it was Fortunes or Jeopardy.

[A]

Yeah, we could do a Jeopardy kind of thing. I don't know how fun that is. Price is Right. Who. We could do a Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? That's. Who Wants to Be a Millionaire is all right. Oh, we could do. Yeah, that. That match game. Something like that.

[B]

Supermarket Sweet would be the best.

[A]

That would be so.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Is this working already? I hope it works better on the day.

[B]

Oh, my God. I want one on my nightstand. Put one on my tombstone.

[A]

Yeah. Wow. Even though you're not gonna be under there.

[B]

Yeah. You know it.

[A]

The real listeners know what that means.

[B]

The real fans know what we're talking about.

[A]

Yeah. Well, this is it. This is.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Okay. All right, so let's. So what. What is Match Game like? It's like you.

[B]

Oh, we could do Hollywood Squares.

[A]

We could do a Hollywood Squares kind of thing.

[B]

No, but then you need other. We need. We need more than six people.

[A]

You know what we could do? We could do, like, a tic tac toe trivia thing where there's a. There's a board and we go. And then we have some kind of.

[B]

Trivia thing or, like, newlywed game. We could do. We can do it where. Who. Who knows each other better, you or me? Where we can ask each other. We could do a part where we have to ask questions and see if we get the answers correctly.

[A]

That could be good. But. But. But we don't know the questions. They got to come up with them from the pod. Maybe. Are you smarter than a fifth grade? All right, again, we'll. We'll figure out the third game, but I like this. This is great. We could do Cash Cab. That'll work in here, right?

[B]

What's your first stop on Supermarket Sweep? Always the meat and the medicine.

[A]

Yeah. You go right to the turkey. Yeah. Or unless, you know, unless you see a bonus formula, unless you see, like, a big inflated dinosaur somewhere, then you gotta run to that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Supermarket Sweep was the best. So awesome.

[B]

I was like, adrenaline rushes watching it.

[A]

There was another one that, like, went after Supermarket Sweep. I think that was also kind of like shopping, Right?

[B]

Well, Price is Right. You had to guess.

[A]

Yeah, Price is Right. Was it the. You know what? You know, what's the. What's the one that Wayne Brady hosts now?

[B]

Whose Line Is It?

[A]

No, let's Make a Deal.

[B]

Let's Make a Deal that. I don't like that.

[A]

See, I like the old one. The new one is too gimmicky show.

[B]

I don't get it. Why is everyone in a strange costume? I don't get it.

[A]

Yeah, no, that. That part is weird. But the old one was really good. The new one, it's a little too, like. All right, it's like. It feels like theater kids, like, wilding out a little, you know?

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Speaking of theater kids, did you. And again, sorry if we had talked about this before. I forget, but you've taken acting classes. We've talked about that. But have. Did you take singing classes when you were, like, coming up as a singer? Broadway singing lessons.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So when did that start?

[B]

When I was eight.

[A]

When you were eight years old, you started taking singing.

[B]

Every single day of my life. Every minute I could until I was 19 or 20. And then I stopped singing when I was 25, and then didn't sing again until I was 39 or 40. For something that somebody. It was like my first time singing again. And then just recently, Bo takes singing lessons now because, you know, he loves music.

[A]

All right?

[B]

So when I drop him, it's such a, like, surreal, like, full circle, like, moment for me, like driving my kid to a singing lesson, and, like, he goes in and I just wait in the car and I'VE like, decided I'm just gonna start singing again, just for me. Because it's, like. It's reconnecting to, like, a part of myself, like, something that brought me a lot of joy. It has nothing to do with a role or, like, Broadway. And I think for me, I knew I couldn't do that anymore physically. So, like, singing became, like, a point of grief for me. So now it's just a point of simple joy.

[A]

Right. So when you mean you're gonna start singing again?

[B]

I just, like, sing for my. Like, I wasn't. When I say I stopped singing, like, I didn't sing in the shower. I didn't sing in the car. Like, I wouldn't even sing a note.

[A]

So if you really like the song, you would just hear it in your head and. And you would just, like. Did you fight the urge? You didn't have the urge?

[B]

I didn't have the urge.

[A]

This is. I mean, talk about double autism. You just. You just. You just double down on the. So you. You. What made you decide? I'm done singing.

[B]

Grief, sadness around it, Pain. Like, just.

[A]

What was the. What was the sadness?

[B]

Because for me, singing was associated with being on stage, with being on Broadway, with the way I grew up and what I did for so much of my life. And then, because I felt like I physically could no longer do it, it just. Anytime I tried to sing, I would, like, cry. I would get so sad. And then nothing in my life, like, presented me with any opportunities to sing. So I just kind of stopped. And then it just didn't become something that I craved to do even anymore. Like, I kind of. And then I was, like, only listening to podcasts and, like, not to music, and, like, I never listened to music, like, ever.

[A]

So when you would go to a concert, you just sit there quiet? Yeah. Wow.

[B]

Unless it was, like. Unless I was, like, at NSYNC or Backstreet Boys, I'd be quiet.

[A]

Yeah, you wouldn't be quiet then.

[B]

I would not be quiet if I was, like, at a boy band concert. Because that's just, you know.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Who can.

[A]

Wow. That's crazy, because I think I'm. I'm a horrible singer. I sing all the time, like, when I'm.

[B]

Yeah, but that's the point. I think I've. I've started to reframe it where I'm, like, it doesn't have to be for something. It can literally just be for me and my own enjoyment and that own resonance and, like, vibration in my body that, like, feels really good. And so and because I can't do so many physical things and like things that are outlet that like feel like get me moving. Singing is starting to feel like it's like getting me moving again. So it's been. And it's because of Bo. Because he's obsessed. Yeah.

[A]

Talk about full circle moment. That could be the name the. The name of the. Your Lifetime movie. Singing healed me. Yeah. And you're just. You. Jamie Lee starts singing again. I can't.

[B]

If you told. I'll never make a movie on my life.

[A]

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[B]

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[B]

Really?

[A]

Because I just forget. Like, I think I'd be in the shower, I'd be like baby bab. But like, like you just. You'd say some shit.

[B]

Like, look, I'm sure it represents a whole lot there a lot of things that I've just shut down. I over the years with myself of like just not letting myself, like just have that kind of like freedom. So I think I'm. I think I'm in a time in my life where I'm just accepting. I'm like not fighting what I have anymore. I'm not trying to fix myself. I'm not every day trying to be different than what I have. I have a degenerative disease. It's what it is. And so I think there's, like, a settling in of myself that's allowing now to, like, do things that are more joyful.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Does that make sense?

[A]

Of course. And would you think that was going to come anyway as you got older? Do you think there's things that are.

[B]

I think it's just. I've done a lot of work around it. Yeah.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. And do you think, like, obviously, with Beau getting sick, do you think that changed things for you?

[B]

For sure. I mean, yeah. I think when you are close to losing a child, it throws everything into perspective. And then just the year that we had following and just kind of all of the things. I mean, it just shifts life into such a. It's like Technicolor now. You know what I mean? It was like, black and white and it's color now. It's just like, so much more precious. And, you know, I think all of true healing to me is just a shift in perspective. It doesn't necessarily mean your circumstances change, but when you look at things differently, you can feel better and move through the world better. And I feel like as difficult as the last year has been for our family, it's moved us all into a much nicer way of living, thankfully, with the outcome we had. You know, grief is waves. It's like an ocean. It really just takes you for a ride and you have no control. And I think the only lesson in it is kind of just surrendering into like. And accepting wherever it's. Whatever's coming up, wherever you're at, and just knowing that you need to acknowledge it. You know, obviously, there's times to move through it and there's modalities to help you move through it, but not to get too deep. But over the summer, like, I've been do. I've done a lot of therapy. I did something called EMDR therapy. I think I talked about it here, where it's like a trauma therapy. And then I did ketamine therapy, which is the most powerful thing I've ever experienced in my life. It was. I mean, it. It took me to the moon and, like, I had no. I was like. Like, no seatbelt. Like, that voice in my head that likes to chat, had, like, was not even in the car. It was, like, removed from the situation. And in part of, like, my journey, there was this, like. Because I Had a playlist going and an eye mask. And my therapist was next to me with, like, pen and paper that if I spoke, she'd kind of write down what I'd said. And there was this moment where it was just like all light and love and joy and. Right. We think that's the goal. We think that's the place that we all want to exist. And yes, obviously that's an incredible feeling, but I was like, existing there for maybe a couple of minutes. And then after a while I was kind of like, if it was just this, like, would I even know that this was joy and love and light? Like, you kind of start to understand and feel like the privilege we have to kind of feel the full spectrum of emotions and then it's terrible. But life is for learning and it comes with pain and it comes with experience, but it makes you grow. And I don't know, I think it just gave me an appreciation for the human experience, like, kind of existing there. You're like, what else would be there if we were all just like flowers and happy in love? Like, obviously that's a place to return to, but, you know, life is. Is not for that all the time.

[A]

And where, where were you doing this?

[B]

In my therapist's office.

[A]

Wow. And how many, how many sessions was it?

[B]

I've only done one so far. You have to space them out. Yeah, it was, it was last week.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Yeah, it was intense. It was a lot. I'm still like, kind of piecing together, but there was, like, one thing that, like, made me really feel like confirming because you come out of it and you're like, okay, I was just on like, some strong ass drugs. Like, what the. Like, is that even real? Like, do I even believe this? And when I was in that, like, euphoric state, I have a friend who came to my mind. I haven't spoken to her and I don't know how long. Our kids used to be best friends back in la. I love her. She's dope. But I was like, oh, like, what are you doing here? Like, hi. Whatever. Again, have not spoken to her in years. I came out of the ketamine therapy and when I was like, not seeing double anymore and looked at my phone, she texted me during it. You just popped in my mind, hi, girl, how are you? And I was like, okay, I'm a believer. Like, that's too weird. I was like, well, I think you and I were just dancing in some other realm somewhere. I'll explain it to you later. But like, can't wait to catch up.

[A]

So when you say you're a believer, you believe in what I, I, I.

[B]

To me that was like a confirmation that whatever I experienced in that moment was truth. Like sometimes you're just like, it was that real. But my intention going into it, I'm sorry if this is boring for anybody, but my intention going into it was I want to just embody what I like I know is true. There's just always so much doubt, there's always so much questioning that comes up for me and I just, I've done so much work around it. I'd like to know what it's like to exist with like a more knowing and believing and trusting what I know, which allows you to kind of, I don't know, ride the wave that we were talking about a little bit better.

[A]

Yeah, well it's, it's interesting because when we were, you know, since we're going deep, me and my friend were like, when I was in New York, we were just doing these walks of like one day. It was like 38, 000 steps and like we're just walking and talking. We're walking all around New York City. This. And one of the things that came up was like if you were talking to a, whatever 20 year old who's like, you know, I had a rough life. I wanna, I, I'm trying to like, I want to become an adult or like I'm ready to start listening now and I'm ready to shift into like from out of this, like you know, playing as a kid and like ready to enter life as an adult and mature or maybe I'm starting a family, who knows? But, but this person is gonna soak up what you say and is going to listen or whatever. Like what are the things you would want to pass? Like, would you feel like, oh, here's what I should pass on. Like, here's.

[B]

I don't know if I'm in like a place to offer wisdom. I still feel very much like a student of life.

[A]

But it doesn't have to be right or wrong. It's just like what have you learned? Like everybody's taken lessons from life.

[B]

One of the most important lessons I think I've learned especially in the process of like writing my book and kind of having this like bird's eye view of my life because you know when you go over and over and over, you just start kind of not detaching, but it's almost becomes this story. Even though it's my life, it's like the story that I'm reading that I wrote, I think life will continue to bring you to the same road until you choose to take it. And to me, there's a lot of comfort in that, that you're never going to miss out on the lesson eventually when you're ready to go down that road. And it's usually the road that you're most resistant to take. It's usually the decision you're most resistant to, the person you're most resistant to, the job, the opportunity, the whatever. It's. It's usually that one. But I have. I had one that I clearly saw was being presented to me for so long, and I just wasn't taking the bait. I had created so many different stories around it, and then it came to me when I. When I was 43 years old, and I finally took it and it changed so much for me. So there's some comfort in knowing, I think, that. That life will do that for you.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, I think. Because what I said, there's always a chance, right? What I said to my friend, to me. And again, like, this isn't supposed to be. Like, this is right for everyone, like everyone should. This is just for me. What I've taken is like, I always have to go with my gut on things.

[B]

You're so good at that.

[A]

I. I just. I have to do it because I've gone with my gut before and been wrong, and I look back and I could handle that. I go, you know what? I. I made this decision. I was wrong. And it. And it's that easy for me to forget. It really is like, I go, hey, that's what I did. But when I. When I have a gut feeling. And again, you. Doesn't mean. Don't listen to anybody and don't listen to people's opinions and this. But when you're trying to make a decision, it's taking a long time. And it's like, I have this. My gut is telling me to do this, but maybe other people are saying this, or, you know, I'm kind of being told, hey, maybe you should do this. Maybe you should. But my gut is pulling me one way. It's like, I have to go that way. Because in the past, if I ever listen to other people and that thing ends up not being the right thing, I hold so much resentment. Not just to them, not even mainly to them, mainly to me.

[B]

That's my whole fucking life. That's what my whole fucking book's about, right?

[A]

Of just being so disappointed in not listening to myself, of being like, so you knew this answer. Here's what you felt, here's what you were being pulled towards. And instead, you went this way because you listened to stuff. And it's been. Honestly, it's been a fucking long time since I've done that because I've. I realized this. And. And again, when you talk about, like, ketamine and this, like, I think I did learn a lot from all the drugs I did. Like, it wasn't always in a therapeutic state, but, like, yeah, you go to these places where you're like, whoa, like, this is. This is what matters, you know? And you. You feel like you're looking at the world from, like, a bird's eye view of, like. Yeah. Of just.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I love that. I love that.

[A]

And again, it's not. That's not. Like, the message is, like, don't listen to anybody. Fudge.

[B]

By the way, somebody's advice could all of a sudd. A gut feeling. Of course you want to, you know, I. You want to, you know, reach out and open yourself up to people that have experience and that you love and respect, but ultimately, in the end of the day, like, you're saying it's your decision of what you do and choose to do.

[A]

Yeah. And. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Cool.

[A]

Do we have a memory lane?

[B]

Those are the talks. Like, Rob and I. Rob and I will hang. And by the end of the night, these are the types of things we talk about.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, I know what this is.

[B]

Me too. This is when you came to see me in Love Lost and what I wore in 2010. Ding, ding, ding.

[A]

Wow. Way to go. Yeah. And what was this, like, a play?

[B]

That play. This was when you were mad at me. Remember I left and went to go meet that dude.

[A]

Yeah. No, I wasn't mad. This is the first time ever where I was like, oh, it felt like you didn't do the right thing.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, I didn't.

[A]

And. But. But again, I've. I was. I wasn't mad at you because you always go through life doing the right thing, and I know you try so hard, so I knew it wasn't, like, a thing, but I was like, oh. I was like, wow. I never felt like, you know, because it wasn't because you went to go see that dude. It was because you. We were so. We went to go see Jamie in this play, and then it was like, oh, we'll wait outside for. For Jamie, you know, and we're waiting, I don't know, a half hour or some show. Like. Yeah, because there's Like, a whole bunch of people outside at first. And then people are coming out, like. Or the people. And maybe they're, like, saying hello to people and they're this. And like, me and Ron were just waiting for you. And we're waiting for you, and we're waiting for you. And then Lance came by and was like, oh, no. Jamie left. And we were like, oh, she did? And it was like, yeah, she went to go meet blah, blah, blah. And we were like, oh, okay. And again, because you always do the right thing. Like, if you were somebody who up all the time, I'd be like, what a. Like, how not.

[B]

What's a.

[A]

No, no, no, listen, this is, you.

[B]

Know, okay, I can accept it.

[A]

But also, there's a thing of, like, you just performed and maybe you didn't want to come out where all these people were and being like, you know.

[B]

I was going to meet a dude.

[A]

I was more so just shocked that I didn't have a text of being like, hey, I bounced.

[B]

I would've been like, oh, yeah.

[A]

And I was just fucking. We were just standing up there. But again, like, look at me. I'm clearly still drinking and bloated. Right? What. What year was this again? What'd you say?

[B]

2010.

[A]

2010. So, yeah, yeah, I'm alcoholic here. I was. I have no right to be mad at anybody for, you know, what, them not doing the right thing. But, yeah, what this was like. But was it a. Like, it wasn't a full play. It was like, you guys.

[B]

It was like, yeah, we were all on stage and we read different women's.

[A]

Essays, so it was like Vagina Monologues kind of vibe. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. All right, all right. So I was just staying with somebody for a few weeks in New York. And it reminds you of your annoying habits that you have, you know, because I started realizing I'm like, wow. I thought, like, I remember things that 15 years ago that women I dated were like, oh, like, it's so annoying when you do that. And then I'm still doing them 15 years later. I'm like, fuck. So one of the things that I do and listen, I have many. But the two that stood out the most from this trip was like, I have a thing where I'm like. Like, sorry for doing that right in the mic. But I'll be like. Like, I'll just be. I'll just be watching tv and literally just. I have having no clue. And, like, you have to have a friend around because otherwise you don't know. Like, I live alone. But like, I'll be watching TV and I'll just be like. And then somebody will like whip over to me and I'm like, what? What's up? Like. And like you just made a crazy noise and like, oh, I don't even know like what that is. And then the one that annoys me and again, I only do this when I'm around other people is so when somebody says something, if I don't hear them, instead of going like, oh, what'd you say? I go, huh? Like, and I do it and I don't know why. I don't know. It comes from definitely like something in my family or some of my, you know, of like being around them or whatever being in the other room. But like, we could be this close and like, I'll be, I'll be. I don't want to do it into the mic. So I'm moving the mic. But like it could be. You could say something and I'll be like looking down just. And you're like, yeah. I'm like, huh? Like. And I just like. It's like a this like jolting thing. And my friend was like, whoa. Like. And I was like, oh, shit.

[B]

Like, wow.

[A]

Yeah. But I would again, I don't do that when no one's around because I don't not hear anybody, you know, where the other one I just do non stop when I'm home alone and don't realize.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

So what my. What I wanted to ask you too is like, do you pick up stuff on me like that? What is your stuff with Cutter and your kids? Like, you live with them.

[B]

Sneezes are so, so loud.

[A]

Yeah. I'm a loud sneezer too. Yeah.

[B]

So loud. Like startling loud. Like jump out of my skin loud.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Cutter does a lot of like weird like sinus noises.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Like. Yeah.

[A]

Well, he does 100 zins a day, so I'm sure that.

[B]

I don't know if that contributes.

[A]

But I mean a lot of.

[B]

He's got a lot of going on in there.

[A]

Yeah, he's. He's a noise guy.

[B]

My kids. Me is very annoying. But like, I don't know if it's like popular kids, but they like moan. They'll just like walk around, go.

[A]

Oh, that's.

[B]

That's like disturbing. I'm like, stop that. Stop that. I don't like that. I don't like that sound.

[A]

So they do it, they do it just to fuck with you. You think?

[B]

Yeah, like they'll be sitting like playing video games and just like, you know, they just, like. I don't know, like, make weird noises and one of them is moaning.

[A]

Well, what? Something I noticed with your kids for the first time. And then I started seeing it with other kids. I'm like, wow, this is like a whole, like. I don't know what you call it, a paradigm. I don't know. But, like, when kids play video games now, they talk.

[B]

Well, because the headset. Talking to his friends.

[A]

No, no, I'm saying when. Both twitch because they watch people play video games. And those guys goes, oh, I'm going in this room now. Like, oh, man, I can't believe someone's in here. And like, they, like, narrate where, like, when I was a kid, if I was playing a video game, you would hear silence for 10 hours, maybe a. But otherwise, you're not hearing anything. Come out of my room for 10 hours. Where. When Bo is playing video games in the other room, you hear it sounds like he's talking to a friend even when he doesn't have a headset on.

[B]

Yeah, that's so true.

[A]

They've totally changed the way that people play video games.

[B]

Well, I wonder if that's why. So yesterday I. I had told my kids they had to go to their rooms and, like, chill out for a little bit. And so Jack started reading his Dogman book in his bed, and he was reading it out loud the whole time I was cooking dinner. I just heard him, like, reading all, like. But he read the whole thing as if he was projecting to a. An auditorium of children.

[A]

I think kids did that when they were young. Like, I. I think that's normal, but I think, like, narrating what you're doing in a video game is something I've like. You know, all of my friends growing up, when you would go and play video games, none of them were like, I'm walking down the hall. Like, you're like, what? Like, I.

[B]

You.

[A]

And I. And I started seeing my other friends. Kids do it. And they do it the exact same way. Yeah, I'm like, oh. Cause they watch these kids play Roblox and they're like, I'm gonna jump on that thing now. And you're like, what? Like, they're like. They're like, voiceover.

[B]

Roblox is the devil. I told you, I took that away a long time ago from my kids.

[A]

You think it's a devil? Really? So how is that different from other stuff?

[B]

I don't know. There's some. Like, Bo can play Fortnite with his friends for, like, an Hour and be fine. But when he gets off Roblox, he's a totally different human. He's so edgy. He's so short. He's kind of a dick.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And do you ever watch it to be like, what is it about this?

[B]

It's terrible. It's. It's. It doesn't make sense. You're like. It's bizarre.

[A]

Yeah. I never understood when I would see Bo doing it, I'm like, you.

[B]

What the is happening?

[A]

Yeah. And then he would.

[B]

It's like, not like when we played video games where you're, like, trying to beat a level and, like, get to another. It's not. It's not that at all.

[A]

Yeah. I remember watching him and being like, this is retarded.

[B]

It is.

[A]

Yeah. It was not. What about. Are there any people in the office who have quirks?

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Strange noise or any weird habits or. This.

[B]

Cougar has sneeze Tourette's. What's that? Like, a lot of sneezes in a row?

[A]

No, it's more just every time I sneeze, I just say, like, something obscene. Like, if I sneeze, I'm just like a. Oh, I do that too.

[B]

Oh, I love it.

[A]

I do that too. Me and my dad, we all do that.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah. And it's like, fucking. My grandfather would be like, you cock sucker.

[B]

Like, every time he sees.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But. But different curses. But yeah. I think we've even talked about that on the pod before.

[B]

I love that.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sneezing Tourette's. Shout out. Sneezing Tourette's. What about anybody else? Do any annoying shit? You guys spent a lot of time together. Do not have any annoying stuff. This is pretty good. You guys are pretty.

[B]

People have pointed out that I audibly sigh a lot. That's good. I think that's healthy. I think so, too. Oh, you're not holding it in. Exactly. Good girl. Thank you.

[A]

Zolo.

[B]

He's got something. Zolo's got something.

[A]

I've been doing a lot of really long burps. I feel good about that. Okay. That's pretty normal.

[B]

What else?

[A]

And just constant, gross, annoying stuff. Really? Any. Any. Any comments you guys want to make about maybe someone we. Okay. To make this better. It doesn't have to be someone you're dating, but maybe annoying things that people did in the past who you've dated?

[B]

My fiance listens to TikToks at full volume and it drives me nuts. That's rude.

[A]

Yeah, that's not. That's that's very annoying. Yeah, it's. It would be like in my day, back in my day, if somebody had the, like, TV blasting and was just pushing channel up every 10 seconds. It's like the full shift, and, like, there's just not one thing. Yeah, that's horrible. Anybody? No, you. You guys date some great people.

[B]

Good pickers.

[A]

He's not here, but one of our other co workers, Reed, is very sinusy like you guys were talking about. Like, it's kind of like Rob's thing where you can just. You're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I do that for sure. And then I have, like. I have all kinds of ticks and. Yeah, I'm always.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

I'm always doing stuff. So did your. Did your kids have, like. What's the summer homework situation these days? Because we're going back to school. No summer homework.

[B]

None.

[A]

That's got to be sick. Leaving school with nothing. They always gave us, like, at least books to read or something you had to do over the summer. You don't know. Really? Did you guys have summer homework?

[B]

Yeah, Books, mostly.

[A]

Yeah. Look at these lazy kids these days. Really?

[B]

I didn't have any, really.

[A]

Oh, we owe it. Well, because you could get away with it. You'd be like, I didn't read it. Oh, you know, I'm sorry, Mr. Whatever. And he'd be like, it's okay, Jamie. Just make sure you do.

[B]

What are you.

[A]

Come on, Jane, give me a break.

[B]

I was a good student. I would have done it if I was asked, but I wasn't asked.

[A]

Yeah. I don't know. See, you even do this fake, like, little nice thing now because you. You know, we're in the school. I know.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Maybe are. Are teachers or. Sorry, our parents using AI yet to, like, annihilate homework assignments.

[B]

I haven't. I. BO does his homework at school. Like, they get this thing called go time. They get like, 40 minutes in the middle of the day, and he just does it all that.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

So I have yet to have homework with Beau.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah. He's a. But he. Even when I've tried to help him study for a test, he's. He does not want me to. He wants to do it all on his own. But if. If it ever. He's in math honors, so I feel like when he starts getting harder math maybe, and he brings it home, I will chat GPT everything. For sure.

[A]

Yeah. That's because I feel.

[B]

Oh, I started doing that this summer. Chatgpt a lot.

[A]

Yeah. See, I was the friend. I Was staying with. He spoke to Chat GPT. So it was like we were. It was like there were three people in the apartment. So like anytime, anything, it would be like, hey, Chat, what do you think of this? And whatever. And the person was like the, the chat voice back. Yeah. And by the way, it's like, I don't really know. Like, it's not like this is though. It's not like Siri. It has like human expression.

[B]

So the first time I ever used Chat, I told it how I like to be spoken to.

[A]

Oh. Which was.

[B]

I was, I was like, I, like, I was like, I lie. I'm. I like people who are very direct. I like tough love. I like, you know, talk to me like you're a world renowned therapist who's still sensitive to what I. And like, this is what I live with. This is what I deal with. This is what my life is like. And it, it talks to me when I. And it. And it knows me now. Like, I will talk about something. And it's like, well, let's bring your Ms. Into this.

[A]

Like, oh.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Like you're not even acknowledging what you're carrying day to day. Like, it. Yeah.

[A]

She's like, hey sweetie, how about you sniff a line of ketamine right now? We get real freaky with this. You're like, I. Yeah, yeah. Shout out. Shout out to ketamine.

[B]

Shout out ketamine, man.

[A]

I. Because, you know, and it's funny because. And when I think about the drugs that I did and you think about what is therapeutic, like ketamine really has to be done with like a therapist or whatever. Because Molly's. I thought, and again, this is not a you shouldn't do drugs. Blah, blah. It is that. Don't do drugs, guys. But Molly, like, I, I felt like was very therapeutic where, like ketamine to me was just to get rocked. Like I would be fucking just.

[B]

Yeah, it was very. Had I been alone or in any other situation, I would have freaked the fuck out.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Well, I'm sure it's more intense when you have a blindfold on. Whatever else.

[B]

Yeah, I took a pretty heavy dose.

[A]

Really? Wow. So what. I'm sorry, I forget if I asked this and you answered it, what finally convinced you to try that?

[B]

My therapist.

[A]

Okay. So she just mentioned it once and you were like, all right.

[B]

We had always talked about it being something we might try one day and you know, we have done enough EMDR that she just felt like, okay, do you feel like you're ready to kind of like, you know, go deep into things and, you know. And, like, you know, she reminded me in, like, our integration the next day, she's like, you opened new neural pathways, right? And so your body's default and your mind's default is going to want to go to the old ones. It's how you've been living for 44 years. But, like, it's just a constant, gentle reminder. Like, no, there's a new new one we can go down. There's a new thought pattern we can have about this. And it's about. I mean, it's not like it's done all of a sudden. Like, I have to do work and practice. And so I. I use that visual a lot. Like, when I come up against something and I'll have a reaction, and I'm like, I want to feel this way about this anymore. You know, I don't. I don't want to take everything personal or whatever it is and just understanding that I can shift my mindset.

[A]

Yeah. I took my first driverless taxi the other day. You wouldn't, like. You wouldn't like that. See, here. Here's what I still. And I think, again, something we might have talked about, but, like, something that I. Is hard. Can you Google how many people die a year in the United States in car accidents? So, like, something. Something that I struggle with is, when we get this number, I'll. I'll explain it. So 1.2 million, right? So 1.2 million people die.

[B]

That's a lot.

[A]

I. Yeah, I know. And by the way, like, I'm not gonna say what kind of stuff, but people are always talking about, like, if we did this, less people would die if we did this. And the numbers are so fucking small. Where. Like, something like this, if you bring the speed limit down to 40, like, guess what? This number becomes fucking so much smaller. But they would never bring that up. Like, that wouldn't even get traction somewhere because it doesn't fit the fucking. You know, what people. Whatever. I don't want to get into it. Don't start, Robbie. But wait. 1.2 million people die on the road each year in the United States. Motor vehicle Fatalities were around 40,000.

[B]

That's globally. 1.2 million.

[A]

Oh, globally. Sorry. Okay, so what. What is. Oh, sorry. So wait. Fatalities in the United States. It's 40,000. Okay, so 40. 40,000. Let's say now, tomorrow. They said if all vehicles were Autonomous in the US that number goes down to 20,000. My head goes to. You're telling me robots are killing 20,000 people. It's hard for me to dig. Even though it's a better number, for some reason, it seems more natural to me that, like, humans are killing 40,000 people compared to robots killing 20,000. And I know that that's wrong, but my brain just goes, like, with humans. I can't explain why I'm not.

[B]

I'm just uncomfortable with all of it. And you know that. Like, I just. I, I, I. Look, I use chat GPT. I think it helped. It helps me navigate a lot of stuff. I think there's wonderful ways to use AI and, like, use robots. But I think putting your life in a robot's hands, like, getting in a car and letting a robot drive you around, feels very scary to me.

[A]

Well, that's what I wonder if, like, what if they were flying planes? Would I feel better about that or worse?

[B]

No, I don't want a robot playing a flame. Yeah. Flying a plane either. It's like the. Because if somebody can hack it, you're done.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Let alone the robot. Have you seen those robot freakout videos?

[A]

No.

[B]

When robots freak out on people. No, you haven't seen those.

[A]

Your algorithm is crazy, ladies. 69ing and robot freakouts.

[B]

69.

[A]

Well, what did you say?

[B]

The 69 very far. The 69 video on Cutter's YouTube. That's not mine.

[A]

Shout out to Cutter. Love his algorithm.

[B]

You can have him as a co host one week and just.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Get down to the nitty gritty. I won't be here.

[A]

Here's what? Two things I didn't realize that I was gonna really enjoy about getting in the autonomous vehicle. First thing.

[B]

Oh, yeah. How was it?

[A]

It was awesome. I loved it.

[B]

You had no one to talk to.

[A]

No one spoke to me, which is great. At the end. No. No tip. They don't ask you for a tip because there's no driver. Which I thought was cool. But here's the thing. I would have given it a tip if they asked. Like, I would have just been like, yeah, here. Like, I wouldn't even have thought about it, because when I was in the car, I was farting like crazy, and I'm like, there's no. I don't have to hold back at all. Like, I could be. I could go like, how often are.

[B]

You holding in farts?

[A]

Depends on the time of the night.

[B]

It just happened to be a time.

[A]

That you were farty. Yeah. But again, like, if there's a driver in there and, like, I have to call for Caesar, like, consciousness.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm like, I don't want this for like, you know, I don't want to fudgeing. If I sneeze, I'm like, right. This person thinks I have fucking Covid. Or, you know, now like it just to not have any. To just watch the wheel fucking spinning around and I'm in the back fart. And it was. I loved it. I thought it was great. And because of that, I would have given it a tip even more so. The driver makes me feel uncomfortable.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You're a brave man.

[A]

I was.

[B]

For me.

[A]

Oh, it was great. I really.

[B]

From wa.

[A]

Yeah. I really enjoyed it. But again, they don't go on highways yet, so they're just on streets. Oh, yeah. So I don't know if one was doing 70. Do I start to be like.

[B]

I don't know. I mean, like. So even if somebody like jumped out in front of it. Well, it has better reflexes than.

[A]

That's going to be part of the 20,000. But yeah, it has better reflexes than a human. But some people. Of course people are going to die if they. If something happens, whatever. But it's better. Yeah. I don't know. I was. I was really. I was surprised how much and I was surprised how instantly calm I was in it. Like there wasn't even part of me that was like, oh, I'm really surprised too. Yeah.

[B]

Well, I think that's great for you.

[A]

Yeah, I enjoy. Did we. Should we close out with a robot freakout video? Did we find something that was like that?

[B]

There it is. That's the popular one. Yep. A YouTube channel called Chris Wabs posited that this clip is from a public event where Unitree was set to demonstrate the H1's capabilities, however, was tethered to a stand when it was powered on. This could have affected its balance and sense of orientation. As such, it's possible the robot may have perceived itself to be falling and responded with dramatic corrective movements. That's what might have looked like violent failing. It was mad. It's also possible the humans working nearby ran a program on the robot. Didn't expect him for keeping him. But that may have a lot to do with the lack of. Of context in which we see this incident.

[A]

That's. That's what I did on Ketamine.

[B]

You like the robot?

[A]

Yeah. You were doing like full. You're like self realizing. I was just. Literally I was just in a club going like this, trying to like wilding out. Yeah. That's fully what I. That is like me on ketamine.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Yeah. All right, guys? We will see. Oh, you know what? We might. Yeah, next week. Might. It could be next week. I don't know. We might need a few weeks to prepare. I don't know what's gonna happen. The fellas. The fellas are, you know.

[B]

What are we gonna wear?

[A]

Yeah, guys, what are we gonna wear?

[B]

Match with a color.

[A]

I think you guys could figure out.

[B]

What I'm gonna wear. I'll get us hats.

[A]

I'll be here in a hoodie. I'll probably be in a hat too. We'll see you guys next week.

[B]

By.

[A]

Hey, not today.