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Tim Allen
ABC Tim Allen and Kat Dennings star in the new family comedy Shifting Gears.
Kat Dennings
Dad, I'm broke and I need a place to stay until I figure out what the rest of my life looks like. So a couple of days when his.
Tim Allen
Daughter moves back in.
Kat Dennings
The last time you walked out that door, you looked back at me and gave me a double bird. I was 18. The double bird was how I ended all our conversations. The wheels come off. Can we try to talk to each other like rational adults? Have you watched the news lately? That's not a thing anymore.
Tim Allen
Series premiere Wednesday, 8, 7 Central on ABC and stream on Hulu.
Kat Dennings
Not today, pal. What is your worst memory of being an actor? Oof, because there's a lot. Or oof, because. Oh, yeah, there's a lot. Let's hear them. I want to hear them.
Unknown Guest
Well, I don't know. I mean, no, I'm meaning, like, I gotta think, like, auditioning. I can think of, like, terrible auditions. Of course, there was one, like, new sitcom and I was auditioning for it and it was like one of those things that, like, from the very beginning, I was the girl. Like, the creators were like, oh, my God, you're her. It was to play this girl, Gina from Jersey. Like, it was just in my wheelhouse. It felt very me. It felt very natural when you audition for these things, like, you go in for producers and then you go in for more producers and then you go in for the studio and then you go in for the network. So there's all these steps and you're doing the same scene over and over and over again. I've gotten past all the steps until the final one for the network. And there was me and these two other girls that were like, very seasoned, known, funny, comedian girls. Both of them went in first and I remember they came out and they were both like, Both these girls have been on snl and they were like, oh, fuck, that's a rough room. And like, I somehow tried to convince myself that I would be able to be funnier than these girls because I had been doing so well. And I went in and it was the worst, like, to do a scene that you think you know and you're doing so well and people just be like, mm. Like nothing. Not even a courtesy laugh. Brutal.
Kat Dennings
Yeah, no, there's.
Unknown Guest
That's why, like, stand up comedy, like, I think is the hardest thing.
Kat Dennings
Yeah, no, there's. I mean, see, for me, I can't even get through it. Like, if I go into a room and like, I start to be like, I'm just like, all right, thanks. Like, you know, you would walk out. Yeah. Because I don't care.
Unknown Guest
In the first place, what's your worst moment as an actor?
Kat Dennings
I mean, just for. I mean, this, it's, it's. It doesn't really have anything to do with acting as much as it was just a job I was doing. But like having to wake up at 3am for stuff when like, I couldn't go to bed till 1:30 in the morning and I just feel like sick. Like, you know, like, I'm like, this.
Unknown Guest
Is so nothing to do with the acting per se, more just the, the schedule of the job.
Kat Dennings
Well, I mean, I. We just did that show. I did that show with Tom recently. When that comes out, you'll see I had to do some pretty horrific stuff. But we can't talk about that now. Well, I remember. I think we've talked about this too. When I. When we're doing Sopranos, I was fat and I. They wanted me to be in like a speedo, to be in like a swim meet, like swimming in the pool. And it was the only. It was the only time where like, they asked me to do something I completely said, like from the jump. Like, I was like, no, like, I can't put, I can't put a speedo on. And like, because. And it's not just like, oh, you're in a speedo in the pool. It's like you have to stand outside the pool while like the cameras are getting ready for who knows how long. And they're like, okay, we're ready. And you like bend over to like dive in the pool. And then like, wait, hold on, we have to check something. I would just been like a fat, pale, you know, like 14 year old ball of like.
Unknown Guest
So what did you wear, just like trunks?
Kat Dennings
Yeah, they gave me like. Oh, I think, I think what they did was they had some. They did like something with the camera to just like kind of pan around everybody and somebody was supposed to look like me in the swimsuit and jump in. And then I was a kid in the body double. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Unknown Guest
Nice.
Kat Dennings
Yeah.
Unknown Guest
What? Nice work.
Kat Dennings
Yeah. Because I think they already had the body double. Sorry. I think they had the body double there for me in case I didn't know how to like dive or something. And I think he was already there. So they were just like, all right, put it on him.
Unknown Guest
Perfect.
Kat Dennings
Oh, yeah.
Unknown Guest
I did the Heidi Fleiss movie.
Kat Dennings
Yeah.
Unknown Guest
And I had to have a lot of like, sex. And I remember there was one time we were Shooting a scene, and I was like, on top of this man that I had met 10 minutes before that was, like, you know, 40 years older than me. And the camera kept fucking up. And it's one of the few times I didn't throw a fit. But I remember after, like, the eighth or ninth time of it, the reason why we had to keep going again was for camera, where I, like, was on the verge of tears, being like, you need to fix this and figure it out, because I cannot do this anymore. I cannot. And I, like, got off the guy and, like, walked out, and I was, like, about to cry because it's very. I was so young, and it's very uncomfortable.
Kat Dennings
Does it help in that scenario if the guy's good looking? Or do you. It doesn't matter. It's as awkward as can be no matter what.
Unknown Guest
It's awkward as can be no matter what. It would have helped if I known him. Even his name, probably.
Kat Dennings
Yeah. But what if you knew him and you hated him?
Unknown Guest
That's hard, too. I've never had that.
Kat Dennings
Yeah. No. I've never hated someone and had to do, like, a sex scene with them.
Unknown Guest
Or any scene with them.
Kat Dennings
Have I ever hated somebody and had to act with them? Well, I just did that show with Tom. No, I'm just kidding. No, I haven't. I haven't hated anybody who I was acting with.
Unknown Guest
Yeah.
Kat Dennings
Do we have. We have Cutters Weekly. Instagram, which is really what we all live for.
Unknown Guest
He should be watching the kids instead.
Kat Dennings
I don't remember what it is this week, too. So this. This should be exciting.
Unknown Guest
Would you look at that?
Kat Dennings
Bakey Mayfield. The boys are down by 20. Nothing. A couple six milli Vanilli gun pillies can't cure boys. Look at them going. Lower shelf with it. German Uboat Tech under the dock where the Sunfish are camping out. All right. Torpedo keeps on and on and on. He goes on for, like, five minutes about his fight.
Unknown Guest
Did Baker Mayfield put his in in?
Kat Dennings
Yeah, that's what it was about. He's on the sideline of a football game.
Unknown Guest
Oh, wow.
Kat Dennings
And he put his in in and.
Unknown Guest
What a stud cutter.
Kat Dennings
Always wants to remind. I don't know why he wants to remind me, but, like, his ins are, like, powerful.
Unknown Guest
Like, athletes use Zins.
Kat Dennings
Right, right, right. He keeps. When we were at the house last weekend, he's like, we got to do an episode where you try Zinn. He wants both of us to try his in really bad.
Unknown Guest
I will vomit in this bucket. I know it.
Kat Dennings
But would you do it? There's part of me that wants to try Zen.
Unknown Guest
I'm worried for you. But it's nicotine. You've quit. You can't have put nicotine in you. You don't smoke anymore.
Kat Dennings
But I smoke like cigars sometimes. Like anybody could. You could. You could. I could quit like, Jamie, if you can quit fucking Xanax and Percocet.
Unknown Guest
Okay.
Kat Dennings
I'm not gonna be like.
Unknown Guest
You don't think you're gonna be like, well, maybe I'll have another Zen maybe.
Kat Dennings
But I'm not gonna be like, under the highway looking for Zins. Like, you know what I mean? It's like a whatever thing. It's not something where I'd. My God. Cuz even like, if you have a Zen addiction, you're just addicted to Zins. It's not like. It's not like you're like.
Unknown Guest
It's not a gateway to, like, cigarettes.
Kat Dennings
Well, not that it's not a gateway. It's more so that it's like there's nobody who. It's like, man, that. That we got to take the Zins away from that.
Unknown Guest
Like, you never know. It's very early in the Zen world.
Kat Dennings
That's true. Yeah. But.
Unknown Guest
But.
Kat Dennings
But even like tobacco and the like, you know, it's like mouth start falling apart. But it's just. I just feel like it's more so like when somebody smokes just like, yeah, that guy smokes. Where it's not like alcohol or pills, where it's like. Yeah, they're. They're really. They're down a path.
Unknown Guest
That's right.
Kat Dennings
Dangerous. And it's not like a dangerous. I don't know anybody who, with Zins is like an out of control human.
Unknown Guest
You don't?
Kat Dennings
Well, no. Cutter's an out of control human who takes Zins, who uses.
Unknown Guest
It's not the Zen's fault, right?
Kat Dennings
No, I think the Zins actually bring it down. Yeah. Is any back there or did he walk out? I had. I had something that I do on a regular basis that I was like, any might be one of the only other people. And again, you might be like, no, I don't think. But like, I was like, any might also do this. And I don't know if other people do. I don't like cut and paste. I always copy paste the thing and then go back and delete the other thing to make sure that I don't, like, somehow lose it in the process. From cut and paste?
Unknown Guest
Yeah. I mean, I'm a tech guy, so I kind of have to Live like that. I mean, my old friend lost an episode on a podcast from not doing it that way. Yeah. He did a cut instead of copy, and then, like, didn't, you know, forgot where to paste it or whatever. And then, like, I don't know, did something else. I think copied something else. So then now that file is just, like, gone.
Kat Dennings
Yeah. Yeah.
Unknown Guest
And that was like a whole podcast episode. He just lost it. It was pretty crazy.
Kat Dennings
Yeah. We talked about we recorded an episode of our old pod one time and Cassim, like, called us.
Unknown Guest
Yeah. But we also should say that we collectively, when we finish recording, we're like, that was our best episode ever because, like, wow, what a fucking show.
Kat Dennings
Because we were doing it over zoom at that point, and it was hard to get, like, good zoom episodes. And we finished that one and we were like, that might be our best zoom episode. Like, we were all like, wow. And then like 10 minutes later, the phone.
Unknown Guest
We all got deep. We all got personal and stayed funny.
Kat Dennings
And then Cassim was like, yeah, I.
Unknown Guest
Didn'T still kind of mad at him about it.
Kat Dennings
I know you were. Yeah, you should have let him have it.
Unknown Guest
I'm not gonna buy him a wedding gift.
Kat Dennings
Ooh, that's good. Yeah. Do you want to talk?
Unknown Guest
You.
Kat Dennings
You. You said you had a blow up. Speaking of people you've been mad at, you said you had a blow up the other day. You want to talk about it?
Unknown Guest
I don't know. I don't know if they, like, watch this.
Kat Dennings
So maybe you don't say who it was, but you could just say, yeah.
Unknown Guest
So I have a hard time sticking up for myself. I think we've maybe talked about this. If we haven't now.
Kat Dennings
You know, I think people could just pick it up.
Unknown Guest
Ye. I. Look, I don't like confrontation. I know that everybody's usually trying their best. I just. I really try to be a go with the flow gal with life. Everything could be worse. I've been through enough things to have perspective. However, I felt that. How do I not like I have to say, so I'm just under construction for.
Kat Dennings
Yeah, you could just say there's people doing work for you.
Unknown Guest
Months and months and months. We're already past when it should have been done, which you expect. You know what happens. But there was a fuck up. And it was like, such a human error. But what is somebody's, like, only job to do? And it was just a bunch of people just being like, it happens. It happens. But then cause this whole trickle effect of other things on top of the fact that, like, we just want it done.
Kat Dennings
And then they were like, hey, can we use more space in your home?
Unknown Guest
Yeah. Then they're like, let's just use your whole garage and have all the furniture delivered and leave it in there. And I was like. And normally, I would be like, okay, Cutter. And deal with Cutter's wrath, because he's mad at me because I'm the middleman of it.
Kat Dennings
Yeah.
Unknown Guest
But I said no. And they asked again, and I said no. And then they asked one more time, and I went off. I went off, guys. My going off was probably laughable to most people, but it felt. It felt so strong to me that I had to ask Rob later that night if I went too far and. Or should I feel sorry?
Kat Dennings
And then you were like, should I apologize? I was like.
Unknown Guest
You were like, no, you do not feel sorry.
Kat Dennings
Yeah. No.
Unknown Guest
And you were right, because they did something wrong. And all I wanted was for somebody to just be like, our fuck up are bad. I think that was. Nobody was accepting any responsibility. And that's what got under me. Not the mistake mistake, because mistakes happen. But for me, if you can't accept responsibility, that just infuriates me. And it just was the wrong time of the month. It was a perfect storm, and I just had. Had it.
Kat Dennings
No, it makes sense.
Unknown Guest
And then I had to make a furniture sale that night. And you up your arm.
Kat Dennings
Yeah.
Unknown Guest
Bad day.
Kat Dennings
It's. It makes me very happy when you have those moments where you're, like, so happy. Yeah. Where you're like, I stood up for my. Like, I told. Basically told someone to go themselves. And I'm like, yes. Like, doesn't it feel so good? You know, like, you can't hold that in. How do you hold in one that tells someone to go fuck themselves?
Unknown Guest
I don't know. But now it felt good. Now I'm scared.
Kat Dennings
No, I love it. Anything you want to say to anyone in the booth?
Unknown Guest
No. I love everybody there.
Kat Dennings
Oh, that was close. I know. Everybody got a little nervous back there. Could you imagine Jamie going, Imagine we walked in one day, and Jamie was just going off on one of you. She's just like, what would I be.
Unknown Guest
Going off on about?
Kat Dennings
I don't know. I said I wanted milk in the coffee. This is almond milk. Because you're like, no, no. Seed. No. What do you say? No nut milk.
Unknown Guest
No nut milk.
Kat Dennings
No nut milk.
Unknown Guest
Give me the real deal.
Kat Dennings
Imagine if, like, Chad, put that down. You're like, this is fudgeing nut milk, Chad. Yeah, just fucking go.
Unknown Guest
Sat on my cushion all Right.
Kat Dennings
Who? In your phone? And sorry if I asked this before, because I'm not. I wasn't sure when I wrote it down. In your phone. Of all the people you talk to and you have conversations with, whose conversation would be the worst to leak? Like, you know, when they have, like, people's stuff, information leaked or whatever, you're really. Because. Because of the intimate stuff you say or because of, like, the fucked up stuff you say?
Unknown Guest
All of it. Him and I. And then the most random. Although I taught my friend this trick recently. So she was in, like, the. She was in a fight with her husband, and she was, like, going off, and she was so mad. And then she, like, sent me a screenshot, and she's like, jamie, I sound like a crazy person. Like, I'm so scared for him. Like, like this. Or she was just so upset with herself. So I said, here's what you do. You go back to your conversation and delete all of the things that you wrote. So then when you look back at it, he looks like a fucking psycho. Cause he's just like, what? What do you want me to do? What are you talking about? What do you want me to do? Stop it. You sound crazy. And so he just looked like he was just, like, rapid fire writing her a million things without any of the things that she wrote. So now it's gone.
Kat Dennings
Your trick was be delusional.
Unknown Guest
Correct. And make him feel crazy.
Kat Dennings
Wow, that's.
Unknown Guest
Isn't that funny?
Kat Dennings
Yeah. It's also funny why I'm single always. All the. Because you. You ladies and your tricks.
Unknown Guest
Little party trick for you ladies.
Kat Dennings
Do you. Do you have any other tricks that you use? No, no. Oh, you. You're thinking of something.
Unknown Guest
No, I'm trying to think if there's anything.
Kat Dennings
No, no. You don't have any other. Where you're like, oh, when this happens, I just do this, and I know how to get out of it.
Unknown Guest
Like, you know when Cutter. If Cutter. If Cutter and I are in a fight and I want to diffuse it, I'll send, like, a gift. Gif. Like a giphy. What? How do you call them? Gifts. Gifs.
Kat Dennings
Sure. What do you guys call them? I say gif. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Yeah, we'll say you send them.
Unknown Guest
You try to be cute. You send them a little, remind them how I'm cute.
Kat Dennings
Does he ever say, like, gift's not gonna work right now? No, it always works.
Unknown Guest
He's so easy.
Kat Dennings
He's so. He is. He's so sweet. He's like, you know, your kids all of you. You're all just very, very sweet.
Unknown Guest
A lot of farts in my house. Like, diffuse tension.
Kat Dennings
Oh, from you, too?
Unknown Guest
No, but if there's a fart. If there's a fart, that happens. Well, yeah, we know about my farts. You can press the button.
Kat Dennings
Oh, I don't even know what you're talking about.
Unknown Guest
My farting thing.
Kat Dennings
Oh, that's right.
Unknown Guest
Right.
Kat Dennings
I do know.
Unknown Guest
You know, you can't not laugh at a good fart.
Kat Dennings
It is.
Unknown Guest
They're always funny.
Kat Dennings
They're all. Yeah, it's very. It's. They're just. They're just the funniest. It's crazy. It's crazy how that works.
Unknown Guest
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Kat Dennings
I have, you know, finishing up Love is Blind and. And there's a woman who basically like she was in between two guys or like she. And again, she probably won't say that this was a reason, but like, you know, she asked the guy about his sign and he's like, well, I'm a cancer Leo Leo. And she was like. And like went back to the house and was like, he's a cancer Leo Leo. And was like, that's it. Like, I'm like, that he's the one. This.
Unknown Guest
Is she an astrologer?
Kat Dennings
Of course.
Unknown Guest
I don't even know what that means.
Kat Dennings
Who even. Is there anybody who's really an astrologer? What? Like I don't even know.
Unknown Guest
One who studies the stars.
Kat Dennings
Yeah. I mean, come on. But that's the thing. It's like, like, could you imagine looking back like 15 years and being like, oh my God, I chose that guy.
Unknown Guest
Because he said relationships and it says Cutter and I's birthdays are the least compatible.
Kat Dennings
Yeah, of course. And it's also like 90 of that stuff to me is things that they say to you where you go, yeah, it's like you believe it. You have a big heart. And it's like when people say. Exactly. Yeah. You're like, oh, you know what I mean? It's not like you're a. And you're like, oh, this is.
Unknown Guest
You're honest. Yes.
Kat Dennings
Right. And it's like when, you know, of course people can, people can come to you with things. You're like, oh yeah, they certainly can.
Unknown Guest
But you can be stubborn.
Kat Dennings
Yeah. Right. Sometimes, you know, sometimes it's like, but your Leo Moon says you're a little. It's like, I, I don't know what about that stuff. When I hear it, it makes me angry.
Unknown Guest
Yeah. Although I've had a Couple of freaky readings.
Kat Dennings
Yeah, of course. But isn't that going to be, like, you know. So I don't know if you could look this up, but it's actually. Would probably be boring to play. But there's a guy who goes around, like, debunking psychics and astrologers and all this stuff, and he does it like, he's like, okay, I'm gonna do your reading right now. And he's ready. He's like, you. You do that. And whatever he says, you know, like, in. In your past, you were. I see a blockage. And then, like, he gets the person to be like, oh, my God. How'd you know that? He's like, I. I don't. Like, you know, he's like, this is a thing.
Unknown Guest
What about the guy that goes to all of the NFL?
Kat Dennings
Oh, like the Mentalist. Yeah, but it's also like, hell.
Unknown Guest
But, like, that's like, crazy.
Kat Dennings
It's crazy, but it's all.
Unknown Guest
I mean, like, does he just research the. Out of everybody and then. No.
Kat Dennings
If you never saw, like, the Empire State. If you never saw a building and saw the Empire State Building, you'd be like, what a trick. It's like, no, but you figure it out. Like, it's. It's built. It's like, it's. It's made the same way these tricks are made.
Unknown Guest
I want to know. He's. He blows my mind.
Kat Dennings
Penn and Teller have a show that's called, like. What is that show called? Does anyone know?
Unknown Guest
Fool Us.
Kat Dennings
Yeah, Fool Us. And it's all about, like, the trick, and then they know exactly how the trick was done. But you watch the trick and you're like, whoa. Like, they're never.
Unknown Guest
They watch it because they are magicians, right?
Kat Dennings
Yeah. And they're like, okay, this is how this is done. Like, I remember I was having dinner with my friend, and he was friends with David Blaine, and, like, David Blaine.
Unknown Guest
Showed up, and then he's always be around New York.
Kat Dennings
Yeah, always. And my other friend was like. He's like, oh, my God. Like, you know, it was kind of, like, embarrassing too. Cause he's like, oh. He's like, I gotta tell you, this trick that this person did. Like, they. They told me this, and, like, I wrote it on a piece of paper and I put it in. And like, he put it in an envelope, and then he put that envelope in another envelope, and he put that envelope in another envelope, and somehow he still knew what it said in there. And David Lane was like, wow, three envelopes. Basically.
Unknown Guest
Meaning he's like, I held my breath for seven days in Central park, right?
Kat Dennings
And it's also basically saying, like, one envelope and three envelopes is the fucking same. He probably put in a third envelope to get time to do whatever the fuck he was doing to you, dummy. Like, you know, it's all.
Unknown Guest
It's all just sucker for those things. I remember going to see David Blaine where he was, like, in a block of ice or something, Fifth Avenue. And then I also saw him in Lincoln center under a water.
Kat Dennings
You really followed David Blaine around, huh?
Unknown Guest
Yes, I did. Yeah. There he is in the ice. I remember that I saw him in.
Kat Dennings
Central park when he did the hang upside down for a week thing. Oh, it was something like that. I thought he was just standing on a pedestal, but when I was there, he was right side up. Yeah.
Unknown Guest
No, I don't think you have to take breaks.
Kat Dennings
Holy shit.
Unknown Guest
Yeah.
Kat Dennings
My brother was like, you're cheating, David. That's got to be the hardest part of all of his tricks. Just dealing with the fucking people yelling shit out at him when they come. I remember somebody from Howard Stern, someone tried to, like, pee on the ice when he was in the block of ice. Just fucking with him. And he's pointing in the block of ice, like, get him out of there. And the security's like, what? You're in a block of ice. We don't know what you're saying.
Unknown Guest
So what do they call him? He's not a magician. He's a.
Kat Dennings
Well, isn't that. Isn't that. Wasn't that fucking Chris Angel? Chris Rock. Chris Rock. It's. Where did you say Chris Rock's bit? When he did a stand up? He's like, we fell for a trickless magician.
Unknown Guest
Like, oh, yeah.
Kat Dennings
Blaine just has. No.
Unknown Guest
He just loves torture.
Kat Dennings
But he also. He also does, like, insane tricks. Like, he's so fudgeing.
Unknown Guest
Yeah.
Kat Dennings
When he was at the dinner with us, he just started eating a glass. Like, it's not a trick. He just, like, eats glass. We're like, all right, Yeah, I click on that.
Unknown Guest
Porn.
Kat Dennings
Yeah. Right. David eats glass. Could you imagine shitting after that? I. Oh, my God. I can't. I have. I'm worried about shitting after a hamburger.
Unknown Guest
I think he's an alien.
Kat Dennings
You think so?
Unknown Guest
I do.
Kat Dennings
Okay. Do you think. Do you think there's any parents out there who legit look at, like, the rating Systems on, like, TV and movies, and they're like, it says 16. Like, that's. That's the answer. Like, they actually believe that. Yes, that to me is so to be like the government said, this is for 14 year olds, this show. Like, who fucking. Who knows what that means?
Unknown Guest
No, I think it just gives you like a gauge of like what it is. I wouldn't show both. Something that said it was good for 16.
Kat Dennings
And what is rated R is like, because I don't know the new stuff.
Unknown Guest
But PG, PG 13, R. Well, that's the old stuff.
Kat Dennings
I meant like the new, like TV ratings, which is like, oh, I don't.
Unknown Guest
Even look at that.
Kat Dennings
Yeah. Can you look up a like key of the, of the television ratings and what they mean? But I just, I just wonder if there's anybody out there.
Unknown Guest
Oh, like TV Ma. Like mature audiences, right?
Kat Dennings
To me that would be just like, you have an empty head. If it's like, oh, this says.
Unknown Guest
But the thing is they make mature audiences now for probably, you know, Sandlot and Goonies and all the movies that we were little watching.
Kat Dennings
And that's my whole point is like 10 years ago, they would rate something different than now. So why would you ever look at that? And I understand if it's like, there's nudity in here, so then that's your benchmark. But like just being like, hey, you know, Channel 2 told me this is for 16 year olds. It's like, first of all, anything that's.
Unknown Guest
On network, there's a group of people with a bunch of rule followers that feel good that they're abiding, law abiding citizens.
Kat Dennings
That would be crazier to me than somebody who's like a Scientologist. Like if, like, because that I'm like, oh, you fell for like if they were just like, well, no, it says 16. My son's 15.
Unknown Guest
I used to think I'd get arrested if I took the tag off my mattress. You know, Fear. That's how you control.
Kat Dennings
What, what was, what was that whole thing behind that? Was that, was that just like a rumor someone started? Oh, man, we got Zolo. We got Zolo working back there.
Unknown Guest
If I'm not mistaken, isn't it that the store can't do it, but because it says it on the tag, you feel like they're talking about it.
That's you. Yes. Cause I remember being like, but it's my mattress. Like, what can I do to my mattress?
Kat Dennings
For some reason that also makes me think of, if you like destroy money, you go to jail. Remember that? Like, if you like, if you like rip up a dollar bill, you can go to jail. Cause it's like government property.
Unknown Guest
Oh my God.
Kat Dennings
Yeah. We gotta check all this. We gotta check all. We got the fact checkers going today. What are we reading now, Zola? I don't even remember what we were talking about before the mat. No, no, it was before the mattress.
Unknown Guest
Oh, the TV ratings.
Kat Dennings
Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. That was it. What do we got over there?
Unknown Guest
Why TV? Why appropriate for all children? TV Y7. Directed to children over 7. TV Y7. FV.
Kat Dennings
Wait, hold on. Let's.
Unknown Guest
Fantasy violence.
Kat Dennings
I don't know what that means. Let's. Let's stop right now. Do you guys know anybody who's like, well, my son can't watch Y7. He's sick. Like, no, that's. It's all nonsense. Right?
Unknown Guest
Well, I don't really know anyone with kids, to be honest. We're kind of.
Kat Dennings
Wow.
Unknown Guest
Yeah.
Kat Dennings
All right. Anything goes on in your. Guys, so. So what's the next one? Fantasy Violence. What? Oh, that means, like, it's not real people. No, but it's like, you're not gonna see a person get their head. Shut up. But you might see, like, a dragon.
Unknown Guest
Yeah, I guess.
Kat Dennings
Which I guess is. You can be younger to see that than somebody. Get tv.
Unknown Guest
G. See, I thought G was Y.
Right, right.
Kat Dennings
Which is General.
Unknown Guest
And then PG. Parent, parental guidance. TV14, unsuitable for children under 14. And then TVMA, unsuitable for children under 17.
Could you, like, what the.
Is. Why are we talking like that? Dancing fruit. Is that why?
Yes.
Jesus.
Kat Dennings
Children, there's no one can be offended by this. Which I'm sure there's. There's still people who can be offended.
Unknown Guest
For sure.
Kat Dennings
There's been, like, beef about stuff that's gone on in cartoons, right, where it's like, this shouldn't be in it. Why is this in a cartoon? And it's supposed to be for everybody, but it's like, weird shit.
Unknown Guest
I don't know. Like, don't you remember when they used to say, like, there was, like, hidden sexual things in. In, like, subliminal. Hidden. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Like a lot of phallic things, right?
Kat Dennings
They say there's tons.
Unknown Guest
Like, in the Castles, like, the tops look like penises.
Kat Dennings
In Little Mermaid, the top of the thing looks like a penis. But I don't know if that's. If that was fake or real, but I think it's. I think it's real.
Unknown Guest
Yeah, it's real.
Kat Dennings
Yeah. But then the other. Like, there was other stuff where it was like, in Lion King, when he lays down the dust, says sex. It's like, I don't know.
Unknown Guest
Oh, yeah.
Kat Dennings
They would show that I'd be like, I don't even. I still don't see it. But the, the penis. I remember, but I didn't, I didn't remember was like, was this real? Or where is it?
Unknown Guest
Zoom in.
Kat Dennings
Yeah, we need to zoom in.
Unknown Guest
Yep, that's a penis.
Kat Dennings
Come on.
Unknown Guest
That is a penis.
Kat Dennings
Yeah.
Unknown Guest
King Triton is a pervert.
Kat Dennings
Wow, they were right about Disney, huh?
Unknown Guest
There's another poor name. King Triton's castle.
Kat Dennings
Yeah, I remember when you were working for Disney, we had to be real quiet around here. Everybody had to tread lightly.
Unknown Guest
Not anymore.
Kat Dennings
Oh, that's right. You lose, Jamie. We're. We're outing you and your penis. Penis.
Unknown Guest
Castle.
Kat Dennings
Children. Castle. Yeah, I think we could try voicemails. Do we have. Do we have a voicemail that is.
Unknown Guest
We do. So this one is a sweet and sour. We got.
Kat Dennings
Okay.
Unknown Caller
Hey. Ymh, this is Hunter. Big fan of the show. Not today, pal. So I'm 22, fresh out of college. You know, I got a full time job, everything's going great, and I'm starting to date. It's been pretty difficult, but I matched with this one. Chicken on hinge. And we were talking and everything was going great. We decided to hang out. And so once we got to hang out, I went over to her place and we were just chilling while we were talking. We had a glass of wine and you know, things were going good. And then after the glass of wine, I broke out my Trump impression. She didn't really like that. She kicked me out, telling me, you need to leave this most horrific thing I've ever seen and just basically had a full blown attack on me saying how horrible of a person I am. But now she won't stop texting me. She's blowing up my phone, calling, text and everything.
Kat Dennings
She got red pill, a little lost.
Unknown Caller
Because I think she was cool, but I don't know. I don't know what to do. And I'm not like a MAGA guy or anything. I was just trying to bust a joke and she got all offended. But now she don't want me to leave. I'm just, you know, calling for some help.
Kat Dennings
See, because at first I was like.
Unknown Guest
Oh, wait, yeah, yeah, stable. What the heck.
Kat Dennings
Yes. Amen. Yeah. If. If somebody has a crazy reaction to something and then they call you and they want you back and it's just all, it's all going to be.
Unknown Guest
But again, she did you a favor, bro.
Kat Dennings
You also kind of do think he should have done the impression on the phone.
Unknown Guest
Yeah. Where's the impression. That's what I was gonna say. Was it? Maybe I'm gonna be mad and hang up on him after I hear.
Kat Dennings
See, I was thinking maybe she was like, that impression sucked. Get out of here.
Unknown Guest
Yeah, but I don't, like, don't ever do that again.
Kat Dennings
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I don't know. I wish we could have heard. I wish we could have heard, but on second thought, yeah, no, you listen. I just. To me. But again, it's so as a 40 year old, it's very different than a 22 year old where it's like, when he's like, dating is hard. What do you put up with there? As a 40 year old, I don't put up.
Unknown Guest
When you're 22, you move on. Like, you don't. This. That was bizarre. To kick you out and yell at you and then text you as if nothing happened and want to hang out. Very bizarre. Did she apologize? Did she like. But also, like, why was she so triggered by an impression?
Kat Dennings
Yeah, I know.
Unknown Guest
Like, he was like, I'm voting for Trump.
Kat Dennings
Yeah. I don't know. I've heard some people get triggered by him, though.
Unknown Guest
Well, yeah, but not an impression.
Kat Dennings
Yeah. Listen, I don't understand. I. No matter what your political views are, I think a good Kamala impression is just as funny as a good Trump impression. Of course. A good fucking anybody.
Unknown Guest
I agree.
Kat Dennings
You know what's weird, too? There's a lot of, like, There's a lot of people who get offended by, like, good impressions of them. Like, when a comedian has a good impression of that and they're, like, offended, I'm like, I don't know where the. Why would you be offended? That's like, it's funny.
Unknown Guest
I wouldn't either. One of my favorite segments on late night television was when Jimmy Kimmel used to have celebrities read mean tweets about themselves.
Kat Dennings
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Unknown Guest
Is the best.
Kat Dennings
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Unknown Guest
You gotta be able to laugh at that stuff.
Kat Dennings
So speak. This is. This is like a different thing that just popped into my head. But can. Can you do me a favor? Can you look up Brianna Chicken Fry? Do you know who she is?
Unknown Guest
Oh, she's so sad right now.
Kat Dennings
Well, interesting, because what I was gonna say is I. Cause I can. You also look up. And again, this is not shitting on her at all. I like her. I think she's funny. Dave Portnoy does a podcast with her. I think they're fucking amazing.
Unknown Guest
She's like a legit person. She wasn't just his girlfriend. Meaning, like, she had her own.
Kat Dennings
Like, she's like a huge tick tock star.
Unknown Guest
Oh, I didn't know that.
Kat Dennings
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So if you can look up.
Unknown Guest
She's so pretty.
Kat Dennings
Can you go to. Well, that's funny because I'm about to say can you look up the last podcast that. Oh, no, no, just find, find a photo of her where I feel like she's trying to look like Jamie Lee. Like, I feel like she's trying to. To look like Jamie. I don't think that photo does on her pod. Well, no, because if you look. And again, I'm not trying to. On somebody for getting work done or whatever, but I thought. I think she's had some work done. I know she. Okay, so go to the top, right? Like the photo that you clicked on, that's there's there side by side. And then where the guy's kissing her. Yeah. Can you zoom in on that? I think if you look there, like Jamie, doesn't that look like you?
Unknown Guest
Yeah, yeah, a little bit.
Kat Dennings
And now if you can go to her, say like the year 2001 or something. Because I know she was blonde, she looked different and I'm like, I almost feel like she's. And again, not trying to shit on her. I'm just saying it's like when I see her, because I follow Dave Portnoy and when I watch her progression, I'm like, she just keeps getting closer and closer to our Yami Lee.
Unknown Guest
You mean Jamie in 2001?
Kat Dennings
No, no, no. Brianna in 2001. Jamie looks the same as she did in 2001. Come on. Yeah, if you look, Brianna, chicken fry. She was like blonde and looked totally different.
Unknown Guest
Kid in like 2001.
Kat Dennings
No, it's three years ago.
Unknown Guest
2001.
Kat Dennings
Oh, sorry, 21. My bad. Duh. Yeah. I don't know. Where are we? When are we?
Unknown Guest
Rob's been working.
Kat Dennings
Sorry. Yeah, I've got multiple job moving furniture. I'm doing acting. Yesterday I was up. No, no, I had to be there by nine.
Unknown Guest
Oh, okay.
Kat Dennings
Yeah, Robbie was up by seven.
Unknown Guest
Trying 9:30. Text from Rob had me really jarred.
Kat Dennings
Yeah, See like there I would never be like, oh, she looks like Jamie.
Unknown Guest
Right?
Kat Dennings
And then like as the time's been going, I'm like, wow, she. Because she popped up the other day and I'm like, Jamie, I don't know. Okay, yeah. Can you just pause that and zoom in?
Unknown Guest
I mean, yeah, that's my look. Other than the shirt.
Kat Dennings
That's what I'm saying. That's the yamilee look. Right?
Unknown Guest
The Slick back hair. Yep.
Kat Dennings
Yeah. See, and that's. And if you. And then if you. If you could find a video of her from like 2021 or 22 or where she doesn't look like Jamie, just to see the evolution and again, love them. I'm not trying to be like you. I know, like, people take everything online as, like, beef. It's like. No, I'm just saying somebody looks like Amy, I'll take it. Are there things before you had kids that you thought you would do totally different as a parent, and now you're like, oh, I didn't.
Unknown Guest
Oh, yeah, I thought I would.
Kat Dennings
Yeah. Here. So here you go. See James.
Unknown Guest
Oh, yeah.
Kat Dennings
So that's. What year is that?
Unknown Guest
2021.
Kat Dennings
Yeah. So check. Try even like 2019. Because even before that, she looks even less like Yami. And her evolution is she's. That's so flattering. Right? That somebody wants that Somebody's like, I, I. Because as.
Unknown Guest
I don't think she brought my picture in.
Kat Dennings
No, no. But what I'm saying is her version of like, her. Because, like, you know, the more you're in show business or on whatever, usually, like, the better looking you get. They call it like the glow up or whatever. And her idea of her glow up is like, oh, I'm looking more like Jamie Lee.
Unknown Guest
Wow, that's very kind of you, Rob. I'll take it.
Kat Dennings
So, yeah, as a parent, you thought you.
Unknown Guest
I thought I'd be more fun.
Kat Dennings
Really?
Unknown Guest
Yeah. I didn't think I would be as. I don't. I don't think I would. I didn't think I was gonna stress so hard about being a good parent as I do, which I think gets in the way of me being fun sometimes. I have my moments, for sure, of being playful, but I think I'm. I'm very like, how do we get through the day? How do I make sure everybody's f. Bed and done their homework and then this and then this sport and the laundry and the this and the that, and I thought I would be more loose.
Kat Dennings
I also feel like you're a way more fun mom at 11am than you are at 7pm you know what I mean? Because it's like, oh, this is the fun time. We were hanging out. You're. You're. It's so early in the day for you, and things are a bit. We're like by seven when they're like, I don't want to eat that, I don't want to go to bed.
Unknown Guest
I don't want that.
Kat Dennings
You're Just like. Yeah, yeah. Which. Who can. Who's. Who's not gonna let that. Yeah, it's fucking tough. Do we have. Oh, here. Is this. When is this from?
Unknown Guest
That looks like a spring break photo.
Yeah, I don't have the date, but I put in 2019. So.
So what happened? He broke up with her.
I think he cheated on her. That's what people are saying.
Kat Dennings
See, I don't follow that whole thing, but I know they broke.
Unknown Guest
But she was like crying on. On the Internet.
No, there was some like leaked DMs between him and another girl and he was talking about how they have to keep it like low key.
Kat Dennings
Oh, sorry, you don't.
Unknown Guest
And I heard she like was posting videos of herself crying. So let me ask you. So she has.
Kat Dennings
Can you find those Zolo.
Unknown Guest
If she have a career and a following where like before she does is personal updates on her life. So she feels like she owes it to her following to address this immediately.
Kat Dennings
Yes. And she met him because she's a TikTok star. Like, it wasn't like she got with him and then got famous. She was very famous.
Unknown Guest
I can't imagine having something so tragic happened to me and have to feel like I have to post about it and talk about it.
Kat Dennings
Yeah, I think that's also a.
Unknown Guest
That's her career.
Kat Dennings
Her career, but also it's like a generation kind of.
Unknown Guest
You're right thing. Right.
Kat Dennings
Like I don't think there's a lot. I think there's way less 40 people in their 40s who are like, something bad just happened to me. Let me go immediately to Tick Tock where like people who are in their 20s. I don't know how old she is. Yeah. Did you find a video?
Unknown Guest
Yeah. Do you want to watch it?
I do, yeah.
Kat Dennings
Yeah. We could edit it out if it's. If, if it's not too. That she looks like her hair is like Jamie Lee that we broke up.
Brianna Chicken Fry
And I had no idea that post was going up. He didn't text me, he didn't call me. I just woke up to a bunch of texts being like, are you okay? And I'm like, did my dad die? And yeah, so I'm like completely blindsided by that. I also genuinely feel like I have like, do you see how swollen my face is? I've been crying for like five days straight. And sorry if this video is going to be a lot of jumping around, but I, I'm just.
Kat Dennings
It looks like I'm looking at the same people, you and her, where it's.
Brianna Chicken Fry
Like how can you give someone everything and, like, love them so unconditionally, like, through stuff that you shouldn't.
Kat Dennings
Because you.
Brianna Chicken Fry
Just love them and you want them. Like, you see the good enough. Like, how can you. Oh, this is so embarrassing.
Unknown Guest
Yeah.
Kat Dennings
Shout out to the single gang. That's why we're single. We don't, we don't fucking. You know what I mean? I'm not letting, I'm not letting. I'm not letting somebody make me cry on a bathroom floor. I'm not doing it.
Unknown Guest
Oh, my God.
Kat Dennings
I'll stay single forever. I'm not, I'm not doing it. I'm not letting somebody. I'm not letting somebody in. No, no, no.
Unknown Guest
But, you know, I gotta say, even when you feel heartbreak, it's like, it's beautiful because it's like, I don't know, for me, I look back fondly just as much as my heart breaks as, like, my greatest joys, because they're just like the human experience. And, like, I wouldn't know the great Jo if I didn't feel the heartbreak. I don't know. I, I.
Kat Dennings
You look back fondly on your divorce.
Unknown Guest
For the, for the way I grew from it and experience it and, yeah, like, feel his feelings. Yeah, I really do.
Kat Dennings
You're very involved and, I mean, it.
Unknown Guest
Sucked, but of course. Yeah.
Kat Dennings
That's amazing. Yeah. I don't, I just, I don't know. I think. But again, it's like you could find, like, moments of beauty in a funeral, right, where you're like, oh, even this person is passing. Look this, you know, Especially if they have children and grandchildren. Look at these people they brought together. But it's also like, I don't, I.
Unknown Guest
Don'T want to feel sad and miss somebody.
Kat Dennings
And it's also, I don't know, whenever I start, like, getting with somebody and then, like, I just feel like most of the time going to see them is, like a burden. You know what I mean? Like, not, not all the time, but a lot of time where it's like, oh, I want to do my thing right now. And it's like, okay, I won't do my thing. Like, I'll go do that, that thing instead where I'm like, okay. And it also, like, makes me alter my life, where I'm like, okay, I can't sleep till 11am anymore because I'm dating somebody. And, yeah, you don't want to do this and that because I want to mooring around. I don't know.
Unknown Guest
It's just like, yeah, but maybe you just haven't found the person that you are. Excited to make those alterations to your life.
Kat Dennings
Yeah. If you're a bum and you sleep until 11 in the morning and you want to maybe.
Unknown Guest
Briana, chicken fries.
Kat Dennings
No, no, no. She. I wouldn't be able to date somebody who was. Who was, like, on social media.
Unknown Guest
She'd be like, he's sleeping still.
Kat Dennings
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? It's like, oh, he slept around on you. No, no, no. He's sleeping.
Unknown Guest
He won't wake up.
Kat Dennings
He didn't sleep around.
Unknown Guest
Food.
Kat Dennings
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he ate two whole chickens from Whole Foods. Been sleeping for 48 hours. It's like, he worked last week, now.
Unknown Guest
He won't talk to me.
Kat Dennings
Robbie's not cheating, you know, I'm just fucking full and boring.
Unknown Guest
That's right.
Kat Dennings
Yeah. Where are we at? I think. I think we're good. Even though there's some stuff we got to chop out of there probably. But I think we could leave. Leave most of it in. Right?
Unknown Guest
Do you want me to pull something?
Kat Dennings
No, let's just. We're good.
Unknown Guest
You're good?
Kat Dennings
I got. I got stuff in the crock pot, guys. I got a fucking beanless chili going right now, so let's just.
Unknown Guest
Chili.
Kat Dennings
Listen, we'll see you guys next week. Thank you so much. Capone, watch on Manhattan. Not today.
Podcast Summary: "Mind-Blowing Breakups & Brianna Chickenfry"
Episode Release Date: November 28, 2024
Podcast: Not Today, Pal with Jamie-Lynn Sigler and Robert Iler
Hosted by: Jamie-Lynn Sigler and Robert Iler
Produced by: YMH Studios
Jamie-Lynn Sigler and Robert Iler kick off the episode by delving into their experiences as actors, sharing both humorous and challenging moments from their careers.
Worst Acting Memories:
At 00:30, Jamie asks, "What is your worst memory of being an actor?" An Unknown Guest recounts a particularly rough audition process for a sitcom, where despite feeling confident, their performance fell flat compared to more seasoned comedians. Jamie echoes these sentiments, emphasizing the difficulties of stand-up comedy and the emotional toll of disappointing auditions.
"It felt very me. It felt very natural when you audition for these things... I went in and it was the worst, like, to do a scene that you think you know and you're doing so well and people just be like, mm. Like nothing." – Unknown Guest [00:52]
Challenging Scenes and Body Doubles:
Jamie shares her discomfort with a specific scene from The Sopranos, where she was asked to wear a speedo and perform in a vulnerable position. Unable to comply, a body double was used to complete the scene.
"I was like, no, like, I can't put a speedo on... So they were just like, all right, put it on him." – Jamie-Lynn Sigler [03:53]
Handling Difficult Co-stars:
Another guest discusses a particularly uncomfortable scene involving intimacy with an older actor, highlighting the emotional strain and the importance of setting personal boundaries.
"I cannot do this anymore. I cannot." – Unknown Guest [04:25]
The conversation shifts to personal relationships and the importance of standing up for oneself.
Listener's Story of Standing Up:
A listener shares a voicemail at 28:50, detailing a recent fallout where they stood up against unreasonable demands from others. Initially struggling with confrontation, the listener describes the relief and empowerment felt after asserting their boundaries.
"I went off, guys. My going off was probably laughable to most people, but it felt so strong to me that I had to ask Rob later that night if I went too far." – Unknown Guest [10:23]
Robert Iler advises that standing up for oneself is crucial and should be embraced rather than regretted.
"You do not feel sorry." – Robert Iler [11:34]
Jamie-Lynn's Perspective on Conflict:
Jamie discusses the challenges of handling confrontations, emphasizing the importance of not letting others dictate one's emotions or actions.
"I just feel like somebody smokes. Where it's not like alcohol or pills... You're like, you can't hold that in." – Jamie-Lynn Sigler [07:38]
Jamie and Robert explore how humor plays a role in maintaining relationships and diffusing tension.
Fart Jokes and Light-Hearted Moments:
They discuss the universal humor found in something as simple as fart jokes, highlighting how such moments can lighten the mood.
"You can't not laugh at a good fart. They're always funny." – Jamie-Lynn Sigler [15:16]
Handling Relationship Tensions with Humor:
The hosts share strategies like sending funny GIFs or making light-hearted remarks to ease tensions during disagreements.
"He keeps... do you guys have Cutters Weekly. Instagram, which is really what we all live for." – Jamie-Lynn Sigler [05:43]
"You send them a little, remind them how I'm cute." – Unknown Guest [14:37]
A significant portion of the episode centers around a listener's breakup experience involving Brianna Chickenfry, a TikTok star and podcast guest.
Listener's Breakup Experience:
At 28:50, the listener recounts a painful breakup triggered by an ill-received Trump impression, leading to emotional turmoil and continuous communication attempts from the ex-partner.
"She kicked me out, telling me, you need to leave... But now she won't stop texting me." – Unknown Caller [28:47]
Brianna Chickenfry's Input:
Brianna Chickenfry herself joins the conversation, sharing her own heartbreak and the pressures of addressing personal issues publicly as a social media personality.
"I had no idea that post was going up. He didn't text me, he didn't call me. I just woke up to a bunch of texts being like, are you okay?" – Brianna Chickenfry [38:08]
Hosts' Reflections on Modern Relationships:
Jamie and Robert reflect on the complexities of modern dating, especially under the scrutiny of social media, and the emotional resilience required to navigate breakups.
"I don't know if he could have just done the impression on the phone... I don't, I just, I don't know." – Jamie-Lynn Sigler [30:07]
"Even when you feel heartbreak, it's beautiful because it's like, I wouldn't know the great joys if I didn't feel the heartbreak." – Unknown Guest [39:16]
The hosts briefly touch upon the confusion surrounding modern TV ratings and their implications for parents.
Understanding TV Ratings:
They debate the effectiveness and clarity of TV rating systems, questioning whether parents rely on these ratings to determine appropriate content for their children.
"Can you look up a like key of the television ratings and what they mean? But I just, I just wonder if there's anybody out there." – Jamie-Lynn Sigler [23:26]
Hidden Messages in Cartoons:
The conversation shifts to controversial claims about hidden sexual content in classic animated films, sparking humor and skepticism.
"King Triton is a pervert." – Unknown Guest [28:13]
Throughout the episode, Jamie and Robert engage with listener voicemails and audience interactions, fostering a sense of community and relatability.
Listener Advice and Sharing Tricks:
They share tips for managing online interactions, such as deleting problematic messages to alter perceptions, demonstrating practical solutions to common digital dilemmas.
"Here's what you do. You go back to your conversation and delete all of the things that you wrote." – Unknown Guest [32:10]
As the episode wraps up, the hosts discuss their personal lives, parenting challenges, and the evolution of relationships post-breakup. They emphasize the importance of finding common ground and maintaining friendships despite differences.
"But I think you're a very involved and, I mean, it sucked, but of course." – Unknown Guest [40:00]
"Anything you want to say to anyone in the booth? No. I love everybody there." – Jamie-Lynn Sigler [12:26]
Robert Iler at [11:34]:
"You do not feel sorry."
Jamie-Lynn Sigler at [15:16]:
"You can't not laugh at a good fart. They're always funny."
Brianna Chickenfry at [38:08]:
"I had no idea that post was going up. He didn't text me, he didn't call me. I just woke up to a bunch of texts being like, are you okay?"
In this episode of Not Today, Pal, Jamie-Lynn Sigler and Robert Iler blend humor with heartfelt conversations, sharing personal stories from their acting careers, navigating relationship challenges, and engaging with listeners' experiences. The inclusion of Brianna Chickenfry adds depth to the discussion on modern breakups and the impact of social media on personal relationships. Throughout the episode, the contrasting personalities of Jamie and Rob provide both comedic relief and sincere insights, exemplifying their enduring friendship despite differing viewpoints.
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