The Most Insane Mom in America | Not Today, Pal

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Not Today, Pal with Jamie-Lynn Sigler and Robert Iler

Episode: The Most Insane Mom in America
Date: December 4, 2025
Network: YMH Studios

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Jamie-Lynn Sigler and Robert Iler delve into the mind-blowing Netflix documentary "Unknown Number: High School Catfish," which exposes a mother cyberbullying her own daughter and others for years. The duo—known for their mix of optimism (Jamie) and cynicism (Rob)—pick apart the documentary’s shocking revelations, discuss digital anonymity, and reflect on the changing nature of pranks, quirks, and childhood awkwardness. Along the way, they riff on restaurant pet peeves, fake social media content, and their personal experiences on and off the screen, all with their trademark humor and unfiltered honesty.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Strip Club Stories & Boundaries

• [00:43-03:17] Jamie shares her discomfort at a Vegas strip club experience in her early 20s, contrasting herself with Rob’s hardened Vegas perspective.
• Rob jokes about the need to say “no” and avoid being seen as a ‘sucker’ by dancers. He teases Jamie’s inability to refuse, saying,

  “You'd give her all your money. You have to be able to shut that out.” — Rob [01:31]

2. Documentary Dive: The Most Insane Mom in America

• [03:19-08:20] Rob introduces the Netflix doc "Unknown Number: High School Catfish," asking Jamie to explain the shocking plot.
• Jamie describes the relentless cyberbullying from mysterious phone numbers, targeting a sweet 12-year-old girl and her boyfriend, escalating over years to severe harassment.
• Both hosts react with increasing disbelief as the documentary reveals the culprit: the girl's mother, who subjected her child to years of digital torture, including sexual comments and suicidal taunts.
  • Memorable Quote:

    "It's the girl's mother. Which is f***ing insane." — Rob [05:16]

  • They debate the mom’s psychology, referencing 'digital Munchausen' and questioning her lack of remorse.
• Jamie notes the heartbreaking moment at the end:
  • Quote:

    “The worst part for me was at the very end when the little girl was like, I miss my mom and I want to see my mom.” — Jamie [07:37]

• The group is appalled by the mom’s continued attempts to justify her actions, with Rob observing:
  • Quote:

    “Telling your child to kill themselves anonymously could be the worst thing you can possibly do as a human." – Rob [20:36]

3. Why Do People Turn into Monsters Online?

• [15:31-17:25] Discussion about dichotomy between online and real-life personalities:
  • Rob shares,

    “Well, also, there's a difference between being crazy online and being crazy in real life...” [15:38]

  • They cite their experiences with poker and comedy, observing that digital platforms allow people to let out a side of themselves they suppress in daily interactions.

4. Fake Social Media Pranks

• [28:15-30:51] Jamie shares her fascination with staged husband-wife prank accounts and asks listeners for prank ideas to try on her own husband, Cutter.
  • Rob and the group laugh about obvious fakes:

    “It’s wild that they have so many [followers]—you know that it’s fake, but you’re like, ‘Yeah, I want to see another one.’” — Any [29:25]

  • Jamie admits she unabashedly enjoys them:

    “See, I love them.”

• They brainstorm new prank ideas, like swapping coffee for decaf, amplifying the banter and energy.

5. Quirks at Restaurants: Acceptable or Insufferable?

• [21:08-27:24] The group watches a viral restaurant-anxiety video featuring ‘Jen’ and debates her compulsive behaviors (moving tables, sniffing silverware, requesting plastic cutlery).
  • Rob reveals a soft spot for “Jersey girls with attitude,” while Jamie confesses affection for unapologetically quirky people.
    • Quote:

      “I love quirks as long as they don’t heavily interfere with my life.” – Jamie [26:12]

  • The panel draws the line at never being satisfied:
    • “The worst quality a woman could have if she's about to date me is she's never satisfied.” — Rob [27:11]

6. Nostalgia: Awkward Teenage Years

• [32:29-34:45] Jamie describes tactics for appearing less flat-chested in her youth, discussing ‘chicken cutlets’ and shoulder pads.
• Rob fondly recalls youthful obsessions during adolescence and the intense, all-consuming experience of first crushes.
  • Quote:

    “It is sad that like you’ll never as a guy … have that 13-year-old horniness ever again where it just consumes.” – Rob [33:58]

7. Inside Broadway & TV: Earpieces and Memorizing Lines

• [34:59-36:46] Jamie and Rob share stories from acting, recounting tales of forgotten lines, on-set professionalism, and the pressure to keep the production moving.
  • Rob confesses a sense of relief when someone else is the reason for delays:

    “I never feel like confident as an actor … but when somebody all day can’t remember their lines, I’m like, hey, I wasn’t that guy.” [36:16]

8. Listener Faves: Johnny Hamcheck & Cutters Weekly Instagram

• [41:27-44:24] Rob and Jamie introduce their favorite Instagram comic who impersonates knowing strangers, with Jonny Hamcheck pranking unsuspecting people at workplaces or casinos.

9. Memory Lane: Rob's Law and Order Days

• [44:30-47:24] Jamie and Rob revisit his appearance on Law and Order, revealing it was a gig he used as an excuse for jury duty. Jamie laments being the “only New York actor never on Law and Order,” with the group promising to put that dream into the universe.

10. Teaser: An Upcoming Sandwich Collaboration

• [47:37-48:33] They hype up next week's episode, which will spotlight a sandwich expert and perhaps a Jamie-helmed sandwich creation, much to Rob’s and Jamie’s excitement.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Rob on the Cyberbully Mom:

  “Telling your child to kill themselves anonymously could be the worst thing you can possibly do as a human.” — [20:36]

• Jamie on the Victimized Daughter:

  “The worst part for me was at the very end when the little girl was like, I miss my mom…” — [07:37]

• On Jersey Girls:

  “At any moment, they could tell you to go fuck yourself, and I love it.” — Rob [22:02]

• On Restaurant Quirks:

  “I love quirks as long as they don’t heavily, heavily interfere with my life.” — Jamie [26:12]

• On Adolescence:

  “You’ll never have that 13-year-old horniness again where it just consumes…there were times it could be like six hours…” — Rob [33:58]

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Timestamps of Important Segments

• 00:43 – 03:17: Strip Club Stories and Boundaries
• 03:19 – 08:20: Deep Dive into the “Unknown Number: High School Catfish” Documentary
• 15:31 – 17:25: The Psychology of Being Different Online
• 21:08 – 27:24: Restaurant Quirks, Viral Video Reaction, and Commentary
• 32:29 – 34:45: Adolescent Body Image, Flat-Chested Insecurities, and Growing Up
• 36:46 – 37:35: Professionalism and Preparedness in Acting
• 41:27 – 44:24: Johnny Hamcheck’s Fake Friend Pranks
• 44:30 – 47:24: Rob’s Law & Order Roles and Jamie’s Dream Guest Spot
• 47:37 – 48:33: Sandwich Guy Teaser & Next Week’s Plans

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Overall Tone

Playfully irreverent and candid, with Jamie acting as the heartfelt, open-minded foil to Rob’s gruff skepticism and dark humor. The hosts maintain their signature chemistry—unfiltered, honest, and always ready to riff on the absurdity of human behavior, both onscreen and off.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

Not today.

A lot of man energy in the booth today.

[C]

How I like it.

[B]

We got the boys ready to go. Yami's ready to go. So in. In the car on the way here, we rode together, and Cutter brought up a strip club, and it made me. I don't know if we've ever. Have you ever been to a strip club? Have we ever talked about that? No, I know, but I'm saying then I would know you've been to a strip club.

[C]

I was, like, kind of in and out.

[B]

Okay. Vegas.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Yeah. That's where they get you. Yeah.

[C]

I was not. I just. The same cool factor that I just don't possess for, like, so many other reasons, I think also falls in line with, like, just not feeling comfortable at a strip club. Like, I couldn't. I could. I was like, you know, some of my girlfriends were getting lap dances, and, like, everyone was into it, and I'm just like, I couldn't. I just wanted to go home.

[B]

How old are you then?

[C]

Oh, my God, I don't know, 21, 22.

[B]

Right? Yeah. Also, like, the problem is if you go to a strip club, you need to be able to say no, like, to the women if, like, they're trying to get money out of you and you're just too nice. Where, like, if some girl was like, my dog is sick and I need 300, you'd be like, oh, I'm so sorry. And, like, you would, like, give her all your money. You have. You have to be able to turn to shut that out.

[C]

How do you. Well, how do you do it?

[B]

No, no. There you go.

[C]

Really?

[D]

That's good.

[C]

Yeah. You literally are like, no, because that's their.

[B]

Their whole shtick is to spot people who look like. Like suckers, you know? So you. I mean, I lived in Vegas for a year, so you really. You really get the. Like. Like, it's not even.

[C]

So what if you're just there to watch, but you don't want it?

[B]

No, no. There's a difference between, like, getting lap dances and giving a girl money for that, or, like, if a Girl's on stage and giving her money and having a good time. But then there's like. There's literally women who will just be like, give me that. Like, I want. Like, you know, they. They just want to get money out of you by doing the least amount of dancing or whatever. Like, I actually prefer, like, what's the.

[C]

Least amount of dancing? What does that mean?

[B]

Like, you know, just like, touching your face and being like, baby, can you. Can you give me, like, a hundred dollars? You know? And then, like. And some guys are like, I'm gonna.

[C]

Try that with the cutter.

[B]

Yeah, you should see. What are you trying. What do you. What would you want to get out of cutter, though? I feel like he does everything.

[C]

He.

[B]

Yes, He's a saint, our boy. You should have seen him dry. He had the energy driving around to get you.

[C]

You saw midday. Midday peak cutter.

[B]

Yeah. And he had just had an espresso. He had the energy of like. Like saving Private Ryan, trying to come pick you up from politics.

[C]

His nervous system felt like he was at war.

[B]

Yeah, we're in the Hummer. He's, like, turning down wrong ways on streets, like. And he's like, motherfucker, that. To get you. And you're like, I'm fine. Don't worry.

[C]

And.

[B]

And, yeah, he was really.

[C]

And there's you cackling in the background.

[B]

Yeah, I'm like, we're coming, James. Like, you know, the call. I think the coffee really got him. You know something I've been dying to talk to you about? There is a documentary on Netflix called Unknown Number High School Catfish. Do you know about this?

[C]

Oh, yeah, I've watched it.

[B]

Yes, Jamie. Well, first, let's explain to people what it is before. I can't wait. Because it's so. It's hard for you to say mean shit about people. We gotta go in on the motherfucker.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

I mean, so it. It starts off with a. With a girl who's. What is she, 12? In the beginning?

[C]

Yeah. Sweet young girl, 12 years old, quiet.

[B]

And her. So that she starts getting text messages from a number, or does her boyfriend start getting it? One of the two of them.

[C]

They both.

[B]

It's a group chat. Yeah. And it's like. What does it start off like?

[C]

Hey, I'm just like, he doesn't really like you. You're ugly. Like, he's coming home to me type of thing. And just, you know, the. The two of them are like, who is this person? Like, what's going on? And it continues to escalate, and they're like adorable together.

[B]

They're like the high school couple. And he's like, plays football and they're taking little pictures again. It's like, oh, look at these two. And then what happens in the documentary is like a calendar kind of thing goes by and it's like six months in, 12 months in, 18 months in. It keeps getting worse and worse. To the point now the messages are like, why don't you kill yourself?

[C]

You.

[B]

You anorex.

[C]

And they're like blocking the number. And then it A new. It'll be a new number.

[B]

Yeah. And it's like, no one wants to see your anorexic titties and flat ass. Why don't you kill yourself? You like all this stuff. And like in the documentary you're kind of like, okay, this is fucked up, but if it didn't have the spin, it wouldn't be as good. So did you guys in the booth watch this yet?

[D]

Yeah, I watched it.

[B]

Yeah. Okay, so there's. There's no rough. There's no one we could reveal this to, but it turns out, anybody out there who hasn't seen it, Spoiler alert, Spoiler alert. It's the girl's mother.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Which is fucking insane. It's so.

[C]

And then you find out that not only was this woman.

Cyber bullying, catfishing her own fucking kid for years, saying, kill yourself, like, like talking gross things about her body, the sexual things she would do with. And by the way, at this point, she's broken up with the boyfriend. Like, the boyfriend, like, it's over. We can't be together. This girl, she's accused other people in the school, other children are being brought into the police station.

[B]

So that's important to say that even if you think like, well, she was just trying to get them to break up or whatever. They broke up. And years go by and she's still texting the daughter and the ex boyfriend, and she's saying things to the. To the daughter. What was. Oh, one of the things she said was his dick and fingers, my mouth and pussy. Like, just weird. And she was trying to make it like you could. I knew it was an adult because the way she was texting was trying to be a teenager, right? Like, she was like, he don't want you, bitch ass. Like, and like, stuff where you're like, this is clearly an old person. Like, they don't know how kids talk.

[C]

And this sweet little girl, like her parents, I think were separated already or divorced. And the police come to tell the dad, and the dad is like, What? Because he's been dealing with his poor daughter and trying to figure out what's been going on with her. So he has to deal with, like, the fact that this is his ex wife, but then he finds out that the ex wife has been lying. That she had a job for, like, a year or two.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That she was let go from the job and she had just been hanging.

[C]

Around, sitting around in a house, texting her daughter.

[B]

Yeah. The worst things you could possibly. So you know somebody, by the way.

[C]

They interview this woman. She is a willing participant in this documentary multiple times, and she doesn't really have remorse. It's almost like she. She was twisting it as though she was protecting her daughter with, like, what she was doing. Right.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

The craziest part was when she tried to justify her telling her daughter to kill herself. It was like, she's like, yeah. You know, you guys probably wouldn't, you know, understand, but, like, you know, I. I just knew I know her and there was no real threat there.

[B]

Right. Yeah. She was like, she wouldn't do it. Yeah. She's like, she's too much of a. My daughter. She wouldn't kill herself. Yeah.

[D]

Crazy.

[C]

And the worst part for me was at the very end, when the little girl was like, I miss my mom and I want to see my mom.

[B]

And I'm just like, what about the mom from prison? Because again, another spoiler. But you're already here. It's like she gets a year and a half in prison and the mom is sending her emails. Like, obsessive. Almost like. Which I don't have a kid, so I don't know if it's. But it just seems like. It's like, I miss you like crazy. I need. I need.

[C]

If my mom texted me about my boyfriend's dick, like, that alone, I'd be like, we're never talking again.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Nasty.

[B]

But also, you have to understand, like, she was manipulating this girl in the house for 16 years. Like, she was. Yeah, she. She needed to get Munchausen Munch house. Yeah. She's like. They called it, like, digital Munchausen.

[C]

And this poor dad.

[B]

Oh, the dad is destroyed.

[C]

This is. This is on par for me with the Sherry, Pippa, Pini, whatever her last name is. Remember that lady that staged her own kidnapping?

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

Like, yeah. Beating and, like, disappeared for, like, months. And then, like, showed up on the side of the road and was like, I've been living in a house.

[B]

Like, she's an angel compared to this lady. To me.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Because she's not with her daughter, like, she's, she's crazy. And once you bring a fucking 14 year old into this and like, and then like again, it's horrible to do to your own kid. But then not only did she do it to other kids in the school, like two years after or however long after the son broke up with the daughter, the daughter, sorry, the daughter broke up with the boyfriend, the boyfriend went and dated a girl from another high school, like 30 minutes away. And she started texting the parents and that girl.

[C]

And then by the way, she would. With the boyfriend's parents. In the beginning when this was happening, the mom with like Kendra Lakari would sit with the boyfriend's parents and be like, how do we find this person? Like, yes.

[B]

So that's the other, that's the thing I never even thought of until you just said that not only was she doing all this to, to do whatever she was doing, but also now she was the victim for two years.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

So everybody was like, oh, poor Kendra. Oh no. Kendra, are you okay? Kendra? Meanwhile, she's hanging around the side of the house texting her daughter like, you fucking little titty bitch.

[D]

I think that's a big part of why she did it. Honestly, I think she needed, like, clearly she was doing nothing.

[B]

No, no, no, no. Because you could get, you could. There's a million ways for a woman to get attention without having to send death threats to her daughter, bro. That's crazy.

[D]

I'm not, first of all, I'm not justifying it. I'm just saying I think that was a big part of a reason because of, I mean, think about a person who lies about not having a job for two years. Like, they're clearly.

[B]

See, I don't, I don't think that's it to me. So there, there was this show.

[C]

She's living with her parents now.

[D]

It's not the biggest contribution. Don't get me wrong. I think contributor. I mean, I'll let you go.

[B]

Well, there's this show called the Crown and, and the sister is really mean to the other sister. At one point she says the Crown.

[C]

About like the royals of London.

[B]

Yeah. So she. Of London. Yeah. So she says, why are you always so mean to me? To her sister? And she says, when I'm being mean to you, it's the only time I'm not being mean to myself. So that's what I think a lot of it was. I think it was a lot of her being such a bad person. And the narration in her head was like, you should fucking Kill yourself, you fucking bitch. And she's pushing it out to. Out there. And that's what she said. She said for her, it was Escape Brown. No, I tried to get into it because Christina P. Was saying how great it was. I tried to watch.

[C]

Gloss over that.

[B]

I tried to watch it. I wanted to get. Everybody was saying how great it was, and I couldn't get into it.

[C]

Five shows that Rob would never watch. I put the crown on that.

[B]

You're right. But a lot of people were like, it's so good. It's so good. And I tried to get into it, and I couldn't.

[C]

Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt, because.

[B]

Also what people were saying is, like, this. The. Like, they were like, oh, the next season. Here's. Here's what. Here's a beef that I have with people, by the way, a lot of people lately are telling you, hey, watch this show. Watch that show. And then you go, hey, you know what? I watched the first episode. It's not that good. They go, oh, well, you know, the first six episodes aren't that good. There's one season of the show.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

There's eight. Like, people are like, I just pushed past it. What are you talking about? A show has to be good.

[C]

Huh?

[B]

I didn't like. But I. It hurts me to say, because I love Jason Bateman so much, I couldn't get into Black Rabbit.

[C]

What about it?

[B]

I just. It just didn't feel, you know, it felt kind of artificial to me. Like, it just didn't feel like that new. You know, that was like the life I was in for a long time was like going out in New York every night in bars and clubs and knowing, like, my friends were the guys who owned it and this. And I was like, this is just not.

[C]

I like it.

[B]

Yeah. Again, Bateman is good enough, and he's such a good director and everything that I'm like, I'm trying to be in, but it just. It wasn't. It wasn't grabbing me.

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[C]

I just can't try it.

[B]

I watched the first like episode or two so many times. I'm like, I can't push past.

[C]

Have you watched the Diplomat with Kerry Russell on Netflix?

[B]

I think I tried to. Oh no, I tried to watch like the Americans or something.

[C]

Oh, the Americans is great.

[B]

I couldn't get into that.

[C]

Diplomat is so dope.

[B]

I want to see what that looks like.

[C]

She's so fucking good in it. It's so great.

[B]

No, I haven't Highly recommend. I haven't seen this.

Anybody else have anything to say about this, this bizarre doc before we move on?

[E]

I mean, the part that was really crazy to me is that everyone talked about the mom. Like, she was so normal and great and involved with all the sports and everything. Like, you would think someone that crazy, like, people would pick up on it.

[D]

I don't know that that's always the normal ones.

[B]

I. I guess.

[E]

I mean, I don't know.

[B]

Well, also, there's a difference between being crazy online and being crazy in real life, you know, because even when, like, the. The police came to her house and was talking to her, she had a very, like, normal reaction. She seemed upset. She didn't seem like a crazy matter of fact.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, so. But I think crazy.

[C]

That means she's even crazier. But it's, like, really fucked up being.

[B]

In, like, the, like, poker world and knowing about, like, I remember when I was playing poker and, like, I would meet a lot of people who would be really deep into, like, online poker and, like, the Twitter world and, like, being, like, a piece of shit online kind of. But then in person, they were, like, nice and, like, sweet kind of people. There's this thing where, like, people feel the certain thing they could do, like, digitally that's, like, not them. It's, like, who they almost, like, want to be or this. This part of them that they're, like, letting out, you know, it's.

[C]

Of course.

[B]

By the way, I know. Like, you know, I saw a clip of, like, Bert Kreischer did a podcast, and like, he said on the thing, he's like, yeah, no one has ever to my face said anything. Like, you know, it's like, everyone is so nice to him. But then there's people online who can be like, go fuck yourself. There's just. I don't know, there's a thing where people.

[C]

Trolls, Rob.

[B]

No, because I think there's. I've seen a lot of trolls who then, in person, they're not very charming, you know? Like, I don't think that's a troll. Like, I think there's a lot of trolls online who then in person, they're. You're like, you're whack. Like, you're not. You don't come off. Like. Like, everybody would not be a sympathizer to you, where they're like, wow. Because when I used to watch Catfish all the time, you find some of these people and you're like. When you meet them in person, you're like, I hate this person, like, you're awful. Where what we're saying is like, somebody who you're like, I never would have expected that out of them. You know, it's like they have this.

Like, pressure that they let off online where they can. They can be this person who's like, you, like, I'll kill you. And then like, in person, they're like, beep, beep, beep, you know?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Nothing. All right. Zolo said he has some videos. Some videos that he wants to show us.

[D]

Oh, my. My assumption of it all, like, yes, Any. My main theory of it, I think. I honestly think. I don't want to, like, take any guesses on who it was because I'm sure all those kids have gotten so many nasty messages after this. But I feel like in the beginning, because it happened for a little bit and then it stopped for like a year.

[B]

Right, right.

[D]

Happened again. I have a feeling. So the girl was what, 12, 13? That's when you start kind of rebelling. You start, you know, I don't want to hang out with mom anymore, all that shit. And I have a feeling that mom is nasty and is a little too close to the daughter. And I have a feeling that the first messages actually might not have been her.

[C]

You think it was that other chick?

[D]

I don't want to say just because.

[B]

She'S a little kid. Yeah, yeah, I know. When I first saw her in the doc, I was like, it's this one. Yeah.

[C]

She was mean.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

But, yeah, because I could see that, you know, like, she was a little.

[C]

Jealous of the boy.

[D]

Yeah, they're all. I don't know, they're being stupid, but like, let's be mean, you know?

[B]

But here's, here's the deal. I agree with you. I totally see that. The only, the only issue I have is I think once the police are there and like the FBI gets involved, I think a 14 or 15 year old is cracking to be like, okay, I sent two messages like they were pressuring all of them and no one ever said a fucking word.

[C]

You're right.

[D]

Yeah, I. I mean, here's the other thing. I mean, you know, again, I don't want to assume if it is the girl we're talking about. Her parents are fucking law enforcement. Right? So.

[B]

Yeah, that's right. That's true.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. But when the FBI part two. When the FBI. Yeah, but then if we found out she sent three messages back in the day, it doesn't really reveal. It doesn't really say anything, you know.

[D]

And my assumption is she gave the.

[B]

Mom the idea, though. That's horrible.

[D]

That's what I think is. Is when that happened, it was real. She went to the mom, and all of a sudden, mom got daughter again.

[B]

Totally.

[D]

She's like, oh, mom, I need your help. You know, she's with her every night. She's scared. She felt like the fucking mom again. So she's like, God, I need that back. Because she sits there and does fucking nothing all day. So then she's like, I guess I'll just do this. There's no real threat. She's not going to kill her. So fucking crazy.

[B]

100%. Yeah. And then she just got carried away.

[D]

She's like, I don't know if I hate anybody more in the world than that woman that she sucks.

[C]

I'm with you any.

[D]

She sucks. I hope she sucks in many ways.

[C]

Do you think this. The. Whoever was the DP of that also did the most unflattering angles of that woman on purpose just to fuck with her?

[D]

I don't know if there could be a flattering.

[B]

Yeah, that's. That was my thought, too.

[D]

Quasimodo, bro.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

She's a disgusting person.

[B]

Yeah. I think they just put the camera on her. You get what you get is what you get. Yeah.

[D]

They probably gave her the best lighting possible. They're like, Jesus Christ.

[B]

What do we do?

[C]

There it is. That's the shot I was talking.

[B]

Well, here's. Here's the deal. What I was thinking about after this is like, I always say, listen, my best friend has been my best friend for 35 years. You've been one of my best friends for 30 years. Like, if my best friend killed someone. If you killed somebody, it's like I couldn't stop talking to you. Like, I. Like I. Whatever you did, that was horrible. If you did this, I. I'd kind of be like, who the.

[C]

If I was doing this to Bo. Yeah. Because that's, like, certifiable. That's like something seriously wrong that makes you question everything you would make. Yeah.

[B]

Fuck. Is this part like. Like being, like, kill yourself to your child? Like, telling your child to kill themselves anonymously could be the worst thing you can possibly do as a human.

[D]

Oh, it's all good. I know she wouldn't do it.

[B]

Oh, yeah, that's true. Sorry. Yeah, I support.

[D]

Yeah, she would never. Yeah, I support Quasi.

Fucking disgusting human being. It's crazy.

[B]

Start watching more docs. All right, Zolo, hit us with the video.

[E]

All right. This one came on my feed the other day from another podcast and just really wanted to hear you guys weigh in on it.

[F]

You have made it impossible to go to a restaurant with you.

[B]

Leave me alone. Don't go anymore.

[F]

Then you have three things that you do. We walk in, the host is going to bring us to a table. You're automatically going to ask to change this.

[B]

Yes.

[F]

Right off the rip.

[B]

They don't change it. I'm pissed.

[F]

So now we move the table. This person already hates us. Right. You go right into the craziest trait that you have, which is smelling the silverware. You pick up the spoon, the knife.

[B]

But I do it nonchalant.

[F]

No, you don't. There's no way to.

[B]

Can we pause this for a second? I just gotta say right off the bat, because I can't stop thinking about this. I'll say. I am such a sucker for Jersey looking broad.

[C]

You love that girl.

[B]

It's just, it's. I don't know what. Like, I almost want to look at myself in the mirror and be like, what's wrong with you? You know what?

[C]

There's shirt looks like it came out of a bag at Spirit Halloween. You know what I mean? Like, what is right.

[B]

Like she's dressing up like a Jersey short girl for Halloween. I'm just such a.

[C]

She's such a pretty lady too.

[B]

What I love about these women, these Jersey is like, they look like at any moment they could tell you to go yourself. And I love it.

[C]

Of course.

[B]

I love that energy.

[C]

What do you mean? The second she walks into every restaurant, she makes them change a table just to see if they'll do it.

[B]

And this. This is. This is the yin and yang of my life. I couldn't deal with a human who did anything like this. But I want someone who has the. If. If I walked into.

[C]

This is why you're single.

[B]

If every. There's many reasons. If I. If we walked into a restaurant and. And she liked to say change. Like, listen. If she. If there was a table for some reason.

[C]

What if. What if it's. That's what gets her off. And then, you know, that's what I'm saying.

[B]

That's insanity. Like, that's insane behavior. Yeah. To be like, I like it. I love making a hostess work extra hard.

[C]

Let's keep listening.

[B]

Listen. As a germaphobe, I kind of respect that for a second.

[C]

Sniffing it. What you gonna find out when you sniff.

[B]

What you gonna find out?

[C]

That's what I mean.

[B]

I don't know. That's impossible.

[F]

Like that, That's. That's not nonchalant. That is nonchalant. It's not. It's gonna fail the test no matter what you say. Excuse me, do you have plastic utensils in the back?

[B]

Love plastic.

[F]

Okay. You trade in your silverware for plastic, but before the waitress can walk away, you check your glass and that's gon. More so. And what do you ask for that you have to go cups to go cups.

[B]

Right. A paper cup.

[F]

So now you look like a four year old. Right. You have to order the food. I'll have.

[B]

Well, what kind of restaurant are we talking about?

[F]

It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what kind of restaurant is. You do this at every restaurant. Makes no difference. I'll have a grilled chicken Caesar salad.

[B]

Right? No. Cruise house.

[F]

No. Exactly. How's the dressing? Is it fishy? And you've actually made up a new word. Is it too anchovy? Yeah, like the waitress is going to know how many anchovies they put in the dressing. She's back there counting 1, 2. Anchovy.

[B]

She has no idea, fishy or not.

[F]

Right? I know everyone's aggravated. You get so I can't stand it. It's Jen, just order something on the.

[B]

Menu, fit in a restaurant, and you say, oh, here we go. And then when I order, the waitress says to me, that wasn't so bad.

[F]

They're being nice to you. As soon as I go to the back, like, you got to see this. Yeah, right.

[C]

Who are these two? They're so cute.

[B]

That's what I got. I got to say, like the Jersey. Like, I feel like I need to lullaby. Yeah, exactly. This is like my bedtime story. I just need to hear these two argue about going to ring.

[C]

Like, what's this Podcast so I can listen to it on the plane today.

[B]

Yeah. What's your feed? Zolo, talk to us about your feed.

[E]

Hold on, let me pull it up. I'll give him a. Give him a plug.

[B]

Yeah. Talk to us about your algorithm. I love. Oh my. I could. I could sit in a room and watch these two just talk.

[C]

That's what I mean. Me too.

[F]

This is it.

[E]

Tom and Jen, the real recap.

[C]

Oh, they deserve parents to five girls smelling forks. There it is.

[B]

Smelling forks. Yeah, it's like the Joe Rogan but what is smelling song.

[C]

What are you doing? You like smelling for food? Are you smelling if it's like too.

[B]

Detergenty, but also, why smell it if you're just gonna ask for plastic forks? Just get the.

[C]

I'm just bring your own.

[B]

I'm such A germaphobe. Yeah. You go, what is that? What was that movie with Jack Nicholson? Right?

[C]

Something he's got to give. No, the greatest thing, the happiest, where he has ocd.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

What's it called?

[B]

Doesn't he bring his own plastic forks to the restaurant?

Jack Nicholson, ocd.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

There you go. As good as it gets. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. So. Yeah. So let's go back to Jen and the husband. You miss him. He's still alive.

[C]

Things in, like, things.

[B]

I think he's in stuff we just don't know. Right. No, he just doesn't act.

[C]

Do you ever see pictures of him that they get of paparazzi of him, like, coming out of his door and, like, what he looks like right now? It's amazing.

[B]

So I. Yeah, Jamie, I'm the real.

[C]

Smelling forks.

[B]

I love.

[C]

That's the name of our next pod one day, Rob. Smelling Forks.

[B]

Smelling Forks. Can you scroll down their feed? I want to see what's going on here.

[C]

Rob?

[B]

Oh, I'm just. I'm. She's a married woman. I'm just. I'm just a fan of their podcast. Yeah.

All right.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Don't yourself. This is perfect.

[B]

So, Jamie, let's. Let's say you were on a first date with a guy and you sit down to eat, and he pulls out a plastic set of utensils. Is it over?

[C]

No retreat. I'm intrigued. I love quirks. I love quirks as long as they don't heavily, heavily interfere with my life. I love a cork.

[B]

See, I love quirks. But even more than that, I love when somebody is like. What's the word? Like, unabashedly themselves. Like when somebody apologetically, unapologetically, where it's like, it's a fudgeing first date and you're willing to do that. I love that. Because you're not hiding who you are. And that makes me feel at ease when it's like, yeah, oh, this person is just like, I'm just going to see who they are instead. Instead of somebody being like, I really wish I could use my plastic forks here, but it's the first date, so I'm not, you know, the whole thing.

[C]

Yes.

[E]

Wait, but so is the verdict on Jen that she's in the right to do all these things?

[C]

I think that the moving table thing is. Is rude, you know, if it's just to. With them and just to see if they will move your table.

[E]

I don't think it's that.

[C]

I think he's saying that she's never satisfied.

[E]

Yeah, she's never satisfied.

[B]

That's. That's. That might be. Yeah.

[C]

Order in.

[B]

The. The worst quality a woman could have if she's about to date me is she's never satisfied. I can't think of anything worse because I'm. I'm not moving mountains. You know what I mean? Like, I'm. I'm on the couch.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Like, we're watching football. She's like, let's go apple picking on a Sunday. It's like, you know, it's just not going to happen. I'm hanging out. I'm hanging out in Jamie's theater watching. Watching some games.

[C]

Yeah. Cutter, look away. He's out there. I brought a video I want you to watch. First of all, I don't know what happened, but, like, my algorithm the other night was just feeding me. Finally, like, nothing about, like, peptides and menopause, but, like, just funny videos. And I. I just needed an. I needed like a good 30 minute scroll of just making me, like, cry, laugh. And I know this video has been out for a while. The reason I'm showing it to you, though, is because I want people here at YMH and our audience to give me some ideas of how I can do this to Cutter.

What?

[G]

What? What?

[F]

What, babe?

[C]

What?

[B]

What the. What?

[F]

Oh.

[B]

Oh, my God. B. Oh, my God.

[F]

She's coming.

[C]

Hi. Hi.

[B]

Who's coming? Just stand there.

[C]

Get out. Who's coming?

[B]

This feels so fake.

[C]

That one is.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

[F]

What are you talking about?

[B]

Get out of my way. What are you talking about?

I mean, these are all so fake. The. The first one is the only one that felt real, but it was so fast. Tell her any. Pause it.

[D]

Yeah. I mean, like, where's the fucking. How do you not see the camera? The camera's just floating over there.

[C]

Yeah, these hide.

[B]

These all felt well.

[C]

Have you also seen the one where people are putting speakers in cabinets? Have you seen that one? No.

[D]

I think it's actually such a crazy thing that, like, there's these accounts now that have, you know, it's like husband, wife accounts that they're just like pranking each other. And it's clearly. It's all like a setup. It's wild that they have so many like, you know, that it's fake, but they're like, yeah, but I want to see another one.

[C]

See, I. I love them.

[B]

I think 80% of their audience is like, people in India who are like, these Americans are so, like.

[C]

Or me. Or me in bed with My feet up.

[B]

Because. Yeah, because you. You could tell, like, why India? Because you could just tell by the comments that it's like this. This, like, weird, like, trying to be English thing that makes no sense. And, like, you're like, english? Yeah. You're like, what? Like, somebody put this into, like, an interpreter. What is it called? Like, like, translate. And it's like, this didn't come out the way. It's like, I love these so much. Thank you for this. Like, you know, it's like this weird thing where you're like, no one is actually saying this. You know, it's not a good example.

[C]

Happy?

[B]

No, no, listen, the first one, you had me. Can you go back to the first one? And maybe it was just too quick. That, like, this one got me.

Yeah, it's probably fake, too.

[C]

No, that was real. She's laughing. What?

[B]

No. I don't know.

[D]

It's like, as soon as I see that, I just look at their account and it's like, oh, if it's all this, it's. Okay. So you guys just do this all the.

[E]

What?

[C]

How?

[B]

But. But guess what?

[C]

Speaker. And the cabinet ones are real, though.

[B]

Guess what?

[C]

How about those people freak the fuck out?

[B]

This is a great opportunity. This was real. This is a great opportunity. This is a great opportunity to get the first real one, so.

[C]

Well, I'm going to do it, So I need an idea. I need an idea of when and how to do it. My kids will help me because Beau said that he would. I showed Bo this, and he was like, I got it. Like, I'll look like I'm texting and I'll just video it.

[B]

I mean, I think you got to do some Bam or Jarrah shit where, like, you put an alligator in the kitchen, you know, like, well, but the.

[C]

Whole point is that nothing is there, and they're just.

[B]

I know, but I'm saying you put. You have to do. I think Cutter has to say, see something. Because he's.

[C]

Or do I do the speaker in the cabinet?

[B]

By the way? All you gotta do is say, cutter, I need a coffee. And he's rattled. Like, you know what I mean? You don't really gotta do much.

[C]

I mean, I need, like, a. No, I want, like, something, like, Tell me. Just. I don't know. I need some help.

[D]

Yeah, give him decaf one day.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah, that's. That. That would be. That would. That is so funny. Dude. Could you imagine if you just, like, if you. If you gave him decaf coffee all day and you replaced his zins with Fake sins and nothing. None of his stimulants were working. That would be so good.

[D]

The zins could get you hurt. But the coffee.

[C]

Yeah, that was funny.

[B]

So funny. If just nothing he was doing to get going was working. What's the fastest after he wakes up? Have you seen him put a zin in?

[C]

I think he waits. I actually don't know. I know he falls asleep with one in his mouth.

[B]

That's cool.

[C]

I think he. I think he waits. We wake up around 6, 6:30. I think he waits till 7:30.

[B]

Okay. Have you ever seen, have you ever seen him like, do you think he sleeps the whole night with his in his mouth?

[C]

No. There. I always find them on the floor.

[B]

Like, oh, that's cool.

[C]

When I'm making the bed in the morning.

[B]

Yeah, I like that. Oh, speaking of, speaking of finding.

[C]

He doesn't have that many dirty habits, fortunately. Or ones I have to clean up after.

[B]

All right, here's. Oh. Oh. You know what I want to ask you when it, when it came to this girl because like the, the mom was saying like to a 13 year old, like, you have no tits. Did you ever know girls in school who, who like you realize they stuff their bra or you saw them stuff their bra or like, did girls ever talk to you about stuffing their bra? Like, what is that like from the girls?

[C]

Well, I was completely flat chested.

[B]

But were you stuffing your bra ever?

[C]

No, but I would wear like, if I had a dress, I would like put in like shoulder pads. This is like before they had like chicken cutlets. You would put like shoulder pads so you look like you had. I mean, I wasn't stuffing like tissues.

[B]

Right.

[C]

But I would like do something to make it look like there was some.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Shape.

[B]

They've made it like accessible for women to stuff their bra now. Right. Because when we were. I remember being like 13 and a girl, like there was a girl.

[C]

It's like encouraged.

[B]

There was a girl on like a Wednesday, had no boobs and came in Thursday with boobs. And it was the dumb of her. It was the talk of the whole.

[C]

Everyone in sixth grade, she needed like a Christmas break or a spring break or 100%.

[B]

Everyone in sixth grade was like, like at first it was like, oh my God, have you seen this? And then it was like, wait, she didn't have that. Yes, but, but as, as like a 16 year old or whatever. We were probably.

[C]

You're probably like 13.

[B]

13? Yeah. Like you're like, oh my God. At first. And then it took about 10 minutes. Where people were like, I just remember.

[C]

It always being like, I can see them through her sweatshirt. Like that's when you really knew a girl was getting boobs.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

When in her sweatshirt you could see.

[B]

It is sad that like you'll never as a guy, or at least for me, like you'll never have that 13 year old horniness ever again where like it just consumes. Like there are times where you see a girl at Whole Foods and it does like fudgeing rattle you for a good like minute or something. But like when, when I was 13, there were times where it could be like six hours where you're just like.

[C]

You thought about that girl you saw, like, yeah.

[B]

Or like she's in your class. Like now if I see a hot girl somewhere, it's like I look at her and like you take her in and then you're kind of like on to. It's like, okay, now like we're like, you know, there were times in like the sixth grade where you were just like all day like, man, what she's wearing like a, A, a tank top. Or like just whatever the it was. Or you're like, holy. And then your friends in the hallway are like talking about that. Just to go back into class and be like, oh man. Yeah, it was such a thing. And now it's like, yeah, I just don't have time for that, you know.

[C]

Sorry about grew that.

[B]

Yeah, you know, it's, it's unfortunate. Did you ever do anything like that, like for auditions where you were like, oh, I'm gonna put like fake boobs in for an audition or anything? Or like change your look drastically for an audition?

[C]

Not that I can think of.

[B]

The other thing I want to ask you. Remember you said there were people in your ear for Broadway shows. There's like a earpiece in and they're saying stuff.

[C]

No, no. When I was telling you that story, she was right off stage, like right next to me because I was standing on the side of the stage, so she was behind the stage talking to me.

[B]

Oh, so they never have an earpiece in during a Broadway show. Oh, really?

[C]

I know that. There's somebody we know. Somebody that we know. Oh.

[B]

Did you. Did I guess it already.

[C]

Really? You gotta take that out.

[B]

Just bleep it. Yeah, bleep that.

[C]

He was on Broadway in a play and had an earpiece because he couldn't remember his lines.

[B]

Well, yeah, he used to do that on. Yeah, yeah, I remember that was like a whole thing. But, but for me it was fun. Like it didn't like that's why I just said that, because it didn't bother me.

[C]

I'm sure it was annoying to his scene partner.

[B]

Yeah, well, yeah, I mean, we were his scene partners and stuff and it just, it. But again, we were like a family at that point. So it's different. We're like, if somebody just came in, didn't, I don't know. But that, that never.

[C]

It feels unprofessional.

[B]

Here's to be honest, like one of.

[C]

The main parts of your job.

[B]

When we were doing Tom show, there was somebody who couldn't remember their lines. And it is my favorite thing in the world because I feel like I'm doing good, you know what I mean? Like, I never feel like confident as an actor on set in like, I'm better than somebody. But when somebody all day can't remember their lines, I'm like, hey, I wasn't that guy.

[C]

Like, you're not going home talking about me.

[B]

Exactly. That's the thing. It's like my biggest fear as an actor is like, I'm holding up lunch or people leaving or getting to go home. That is the worst fucking feeling. So when someone else is doing it and it's not you, oof, what a relief. Because when, when you can't remember, that's the thing. It's like when you can't remember your lines, then it's like it should just. You should just be able to remember it again. But the thing that starts to get in my head is like, oh, I'm keeping everyone here. I'm messing up. Like, everybody wants to go home. People want to do this, do that.

[C]

And I'm crazy that there's a bunch of people that could give two shits about that. Meaning, like, I think the rudest thing you can do is not, not know your lines. It's just them tell you they're ready and you just take your sweet ass time to go to set. That's the crazy, the rudest I've ever heard.

[B]

I remember there would be stories of like, because it's different if you're 50 years old and you're work to the bone or whatever. But I remember there would be stories of like 15 year old actors just like not showing up or like not knowing their lines or this. And I'm like, damn you, you got some balls. Like feeling like you. But, but you know, not feeling that guilt is one thing, but you know, we've known people who had stuff happen at work, but they feel guilty, they feel apologize. Of course you feel bad and you're like, hey, don't worry about it.

[C]

I'm talking about people that don't even think about.

[B]

Right. It's the people who are just like, hey, I'm. I'm the fucking talent or whatever. It's like, easy.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Do we. Oh, next week, ladies and gentlemen, we have the sandwich guy. Gonna be on the pod, I believe. So we're gonna get to talk to him, Amy.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

I'm. I'm very. I'm very excited to ask him about the best sandwich. And you. Maybe we ask him about collabing with.

[C]

A. I love a collab.

[B]

A balsamic glaze.

[C]

I'll make up a sandwich with him. Maybe him and I should make up a sandwich. I'll tell him all the things I like. Yeah. And then he can come up with a sandwich.

[B]

Yeah. What would you call your sandwich?

[C]

That's up to him.

[B]

Okay. Yes.

[C]

This is. We need to figure it out together, because once I know all the ingredients, too.

[B]

You know the only thing that sucks about now coming out with us? Like, you want to come out with a sandwich when a place opens up because now you know he's made all the good sandwiches.

[C]

Maybe not. Maybe I'm gonna inspire him.

[B]

I love it. I love it. You know. You know what would be a fun drop to have on this pod? Oh, no, the mom never said it. She just texted it. It would have been cool to have the mom saying, you're. You're his dick and. And fingers my mouth, and.

That would have been a fun thing to be able to just hit whenever I felt like it.

[D]

She told the girl that he didn't love her because she wasn't giving blow jobs.

[B]

Yeah, I forgot about that.

[C]

That's, by the way, diabolical.

[B]

That feels like such a thing. Directly from her husband of being like, you don't even blow me anymore, right chested bitch. Yeah. And he's like, yeah, you're not sucking his dick. Like, oh, my God. Okay, here's a question. Jamie. What if she was willing to come on this podcast? Would you have her on.

[C]

In person?

[D]

I would not be able to. I would not be able to be in the fucking control booth.

[C]

No, I don't want to talk to her.

[D]

I would not be able.

[C]

I'm with any. That's a solo, Robbie.

[B]

No, I didn't say I would. I was asking if you would. I don't. I.

[C]

What do we need to talk to her about?

[B]

Well, here, listen. The only. The only reason to have her on would to be like, you're a Zoom in from her. Yeah, so. Well, now she's out. But being like, you're a piece of. And that's not. That's not fun, you know, but it's just like, man, how could you? What are you. Or, you know, we could do. We could just give her all of our numbers and see what she comes up with from watching the pod. You know, she could be like you, OCD having loser. You know, whatever she. Whatever she has for Robbie.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

Yeah, we could.

[C]

Come at me.

[B]

Yeah, come at me.

[C]

What you got?

[B]

We should have a segment that crazy. Crazy mom comes at us this week. Oh, you know what? Before we go, let's. Let's do. We got those two. I think I put two Cutters Weekly Instagrams, right? We haven't done a Cutter's Weekly Instagram in a long time. Yeah, I was off of it. I hadn't. You gotta go find. Because he sent it to me on the phone and I can't open it up, so I have to go. It's like a whole process. But. But we're. We're back. Cutters Weekly Instagram back.

Oh, this is our boy James.

[G]

Still gambling, huh? Johnny. Johnny. You helped me out with my first job. I'm a manager now.

You still working there? What are you talking about?

[B]

Come on.

[G]

Are you serious? I had two ponytails in the back last time you saw me. You work with Mike.

Shorter fella. Damn, your hair is perfect. That shit's like out of a cartoon.

[C]

Really?

[B]

I don't think.

[C]

I think.

[G]

I think he got me mistaken for something I would. Where are you working at now? I own Baseline. I know I used to work for you. I got called stealing, but I've changed.

[B]

That's before I had the plan.

[G]

I know. You heard about me, though, didn't you? No, seriously. Hey, I don't care. It was crypto. Everyone suffers from crypto addiction sometimes. But no.

[B]

So pause this. So this is a guy who me, Jamie and Cutter laugh at constantly, is his name is Johnny Hamcheck, and he literally just goes up to people on the street constantly and acts like he knows them.

[C]

Or he'll pull up to, like, literally, like, a construction site and be like, yo, tell your manager I've got the 16 inch chains in the back and I just gotta get in. And he somehow always, like, gets in. They fall for his. Yeah, they have to. What is it? Balboni.

[B]

Balboni sent me. Well, what he does, too, is, like, he does a very smart thing where he's like, I use. I work with John and like if you're on a construction site, there's oh. And they're like, oh, John Ranger. And he's like, yeah, John Ranger sent me here. And they're like, oh, hold on a second. They start calling people like it's a whole thing. This guy is somewhat. Listen, some of the videos, you're like, oh, okay, I get it. Some of them hit in the perfect way where we fall into just laughing spells. But for the pod, they're a little slow. But let's, let's see, let's see if we could go. Look at this guy shaking his hand. He's like still gambling, huh?

[C]

Look at this guy though.

[F]

Everything.

[G]

Did you work for Dave Wilson?

[C]

Yes.

[G]

Yeah. Hey, wait a second now. Dave's a good guy. No, he wasn't for me. He wanted, what did he do? Well, he didn't, he didn't accomplish what he wanted to this and he, he was with my wife. You know that, right? No, I don't see, I don't know the history other than I know what he tried to do to me when I bought the place. I know, he told me about it. Yeah, he lost cuz I, he didn't know me. He didn't know what I had. I got him out in the parking lot right now. That's I've been following. I've been watching you for a while.

[B]

Dude.

[G]

Dude, I have him hog. I have duct tape. No, dude, the guy needs to be talked to and I wanted to, I wanted you to talk to him about what happened. No, we're not gonna waste my. Hey, he's in the van. I did this for you. Thanks anyway, dude, he needs you.

[B]

Yeah, I would love to hear the next phone call that that guy makes.

[C]

That guy was like, yeah, let's go.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. You got Dave in the van tied up. Let's, yeah. Imagine he pulled like a brass knuckles out of his pocket and was like, let's.

[C]

My God.

[B]

You know what the sad thing is too about this video is I, I.

[C]

I recognize that carpet.

[B]

Well, I, I, I should. But no, because I think that's some, that would be somewhere like Missouri or some, that I've never been cuz it's, it's not a Vegas thing, I don't think. But he, he had like, he owns a company. The guy had like $37 in chips in his hand.

[C]

Oh, that's it. I couldn't tell the, he had like.

[B]

Two, he had like two greens and a, and a red. That's like 55 bucks he's got on On a. When the casino is that empty.

[C]

No purples.

[B]

You're such a degenerate. He's the only guy in the casino.

[C]

Like, yeah, that's midday. That's 11:30am if you're there for that.

[B]

You got to be. And you own the company. If you're. If you're there midday on a weekday, you got to be throwing down some real bets. Like, what are you doing with 55 bucks in your hand?

[C]

I needed a Johnny. Johnny Hamzak. Thank you.

[B]

Yeah. Love Johnny Ham. Check before we go. Do we. Do we have a memory lane for this episode?

[E]

We do.

[B]

Oh, I know what this is. There's no way Jamie could figure this out.

[C]

No, I didn't watch it this far.

[B]

No, you don't know.

[C]

This is Law and Order.

[B]

There you go.

[C]

Are you with Chris Maloney?

[B]

I am.

[C]

Why are you hogtied?

[B]

Because I'm. I'm. I'm Dan in the van. They're coming. They're coming. They're coming to get me. They got me tied up in the van. So what happened was I was. I didn't want to act anymore. I was done acting. And I got a phone call to do jury duty, or I got the slip. Like, they give you, like, a slip in the mail or whatever, and it was like, this is your final notice. Like, if you don't come, it's a problem. So I call my manager. I'm like, you got to get me a job so I can get out of this. So I did an episode of Law and Order, and I don't know. There's, like, two different ones that I did.

[C]

I didn't get on Law and Order. I've only always wanted to be on Law and Order.

[B]

Watch this. We're going to put. We put things out there. We're putting it out right now.

[C]

We always want it to be on Law and Order.

[B]

Tag Law and Order in this. You've had me twice.

[C]

I've been told I'm, like, the only New York actor ever that's not been on Law and Law and Order.

[B]

How?

[C]

Well, what do you have against me?

[B]

What do you have against me?

[C]

I could cry.

[B]

I was gonna say something fun, but we want them. We want them to. We want them to get you.

[C]

No, I love Law and Order.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. No, listen. And. And they were always fun and great.

[C]

So they got you out of jury duty.

[B]

Yeah. I forget what I. If I, like, killed my sister and one of them. I killed my sister or something, I forget the plot. But people always tell me, like, I just Saw you in Law and Order. I look. Am I crying?

[C]

So what year? You look sad.

[B]

I don't remember.

[C]

Crying, distraught.

[B]

Yeah. What year was this? I don't know. If I had to guess, I would have to say I was like 20.

[C]

2007. Four. Eight post Sopranos.

[B]

Yeah, for sure. So I would say 2008, 2009. What do we got?

[E]

I have 2004.

[B]

2004. So I'd be 19. I would be able to get out of jury duty unless it was a long stint.

[C]

Oh, when we had the 18 month.

[B]

Hiatus, when we had a long time off.

[C]

Yes. Yes.

[B]

Maybe. Maybe, huh?

[C]

Probably. Yes. Yes. That's when that was.

[B]

Yeah. Okay, then that makes sense. But I. But even then, I feel like I could have had somebody write me a note. They were good, but unless we were like, not in production over a year.

[C]

We were in production.

[B]

Wow. All right. Yeah. Well, we should. You know what we should do? We should have, like. I don't know how we do that, but we get you to watch. You watch my Law and Orders. I think. I think I killed my sister. I don't know.

[C]

How many did you do?

[B]

I did two.

[C]

Cool.

[B]

And one. I think I was like sleeping with my sister in law. Or like a half. Or like. Or like my. My dad's creepy brother. Girlfriend's. My dad's girlfriend's daughter. I don't know. There was like weird shit they had me doing, but what are you gonna do? You know, I look. I look kind of dirty here. My hair looks kind of. I could use a shower, I think. You know when they. They do that to you on set, like when you show up clean and they're like, oh, you're supposed to look dirty and they put like, sludge in your hair and like hit you with like socks with dirt in it and you're like, what's up? Is this.

[C]

Yeah. It's acting.

[B]

Yeah. I'm so happy I don't have to do that here. I get to stay clean. Oh, one thing before we go, something I want to talk about with Cougar real quick. Cougar, I think we should do a Super bowl special this year. Yeah. For the pod.

[D]

Sure.

[B]

So I think we want to get like a bunch of gambling guys. And I think we have Cutter sit in and we go. We go hard on the week before because in between the super bowl, there's two weeks, right. So I think we go, we get like the bet. We try and find the best gamblers in the world. Most successful. Everybody throws out a parlay. You're going to have a parlay. I'll have a party.

Well, what do you want to. You want in, you want out?

[C]

I don't know yet.

[B]

Well, you. You can figure it out. We'll figure.

[D]

Jamie, it's a lock.

[C]

It's a lock.

[B]

Yeah. So everybody's gonna have a parlay.

[C]

Like, you know when, like, you're a kid and you, like, try to, like, connect with your dad? I keep catching Bo asking, chat GPT, like, good football bets. And then he'll walk in the living room, be like, hey, dad. So it's just researching online and saw, like, you should take the L plus, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's so sweet. Like, he's trying. He, like, knows the way to Cutter's heart and he's trying to connect with him. It's very sweet.

[B]

Me and Cutter recently have been texting each other. Something Beau said at your plate, cuz. So we're. We're sitting in the theater. It was like a funeral up there. Like, you could have cut me and Cutter. And by the way, I'm back. We're doing good again. Cutter. Me and Cutter were having the worst week ever. And there's just dead silence while, like, the end of a game is playing. And out of nowhere, Bo looks over to. He goes, my mom loves the last of us. And we were. We both looked over.

We both looked over. We're like, what the did he just say? He's just trying to get in the mix, you know, the poor guy, he's just trying to start up a conversation. And both of us could not have been silent.

[C]

He couldn't handle the sad silence.

[B]

Yeah. And even normally with me, I'll try and, like, engage Beau. And I was just like, I can't do it. I can't do. I was so sad.

[C]

I do love the last of us.

[B]

Yeah, I know. He's like, my mom loves the last of us. And both of us are like, funeral face on, you know, just lost everything.

[C]

Him and I had just. I was watching it on a plane next to him.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. And we were both just like. So now we text each other that in random moments. Yeah. Yeah. All right, listen, we will. We'll see you guys next week.

[C]

Not today.

[B]

Battery.

[C]

Not today.