We're Obsessed With Virgin Island | Not Today, Pal

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Episode Summary: "We're Obsessed With Virgin Island" | Not Today, Pal

Podcast Information:

• Title: Not Today, Pal with Jamie-Lynn Sigler and Robert Iler
• Host/Author: YMH Studios
• Episode: We're Obsessed With Virgin Island
• Release Date: July 17, 2025

In this vibrant episode of Not Today, Pal, Jamie-Lynn Sigler and Robert Iler delve into the intriguing world of a new UK-based show titled "Virgin Island." Balancing their contrasting personalities—Jamie as the upbeat counterpart and Rob as the grumpy yet endearing host—the duo explores the show's unique premise, shares personal anecdotes, interacts with guests, and reflects on their iconic past from The Sopranos.

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1. Exploring "Virgin Island" and Surrogate Partner Therapy [00:00 - 6:37]

Jamie-Lynn kicks off the conversation at [00:10], expressing her excitement about the UK-exclusive show, Virgin Island, which she struggles to access from the US:

Jamie [00:10]: "So there is a new show out. It's only in the UK. I haven't figured out how to get it here yet."

Rob interjects humorously:

Rob [01:01]: "Woohoo."

The primary focus shifts to the show's concept, which centers around Surrogate Partner Therapists (SPT)—professionals trained to assist individuals, particularly adult virgins, in developing intimacy and social skills. Jamie and Rob dissect the ethical and legal nuances of this profession, highlighting its controversial nature:

Jamie [03:05]: "So are these people getting like a degree? And then it's like, yeah, now you can them like is it like, oh no, you're only three weeks into your. I don't know your program."

Rob raises concerns about the feasibility and societal perception of such therapy:

Rob [05:54]: "This isn't for people that are in relationships that learn how. Need to learn how to have sex."

The hosts ponder the potential of turning SPT into a reality show, contemplating its reception and originality:

Rob [05:54]: "Because at least in America it would be original content."

Their discussion underscores the delicate balance between therapeutic intentions and the entertainment industry's portrayal of intimate relationships.

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2. Guest Interaction: Joey Swole [13:03 - 14:38]

The episode features a segment with Joey Swole, who is known for his candid interactions at the gym. Joey shares a clip where he humorously confronts individuals about their eating habits:

Joey Swole [13:03]: "Do I look like I eat carbs? No, you look like someone that's arrogant and a narcissist that doesn't know how to act like an adult."

Jamie-Lynn and Rob comment on Joey's straightforward approach, highlighting his talent for engaging and entertaining content:

Jamie [13:16]: "You're no one safe who's just trying."

This segment adds a dynamic layer to the episode, showcasing the podcast's ability to blend serious discussions with lighthearted guest interactions.

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3. Celebrating the 100th Episode and Rob's Retirement [15:16 - 42:34]

Jamie-Lynn announces the milestone of their 100th episode, sparking a heartfelt conversation with their guest, PG:

Jamie [16:01]: "We recorded our 100th episode, and in it, I said to Jamie, of our hundred episodes, what was your favorite moment? And she said it was talking to you."

Amidst the celebration, Rob shares personal news about his retirement:

Rob [17:29]: "I decided to retire, which I love. Retirement life."

The hosts and PG engage in a role-play scenario to offer parenting advice on handling bullying, showcasing their chemistry and ability to address real-life issues with empathy and humor:

PG [26:34]: "Dad, I. I'm. I'm getting bullied so bad at school. The kids are making fun of my clothes. They are telling me that I'm stupid. Someone stole my lunch. What am I supposed to do?"

Rob provides thoughtful advice, emphasizing the importance of resilience:

Rob [25:37]: "You have to become a master of comeback lines."

This segment not only honors their podcast's longevity but also reinforces their commitment to discussing meaningful topics.

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4. Reflecting on The Sopranos and Interactions with PG [30:00 - 41:43]

The conversation transitions to nostalgic reflections on their time together in The Sopranos. Rob and Jamie-Lynn reminisce about memorable moments and characters, with PG contributing personal insights:

Jamie [39:08]: "She's fantastic. Great person. Beautiful, lovely. She's a mom."

They discuss specific episodes and interactions, highlighting the bond formed during their time on the show and its enduring impact on their friendship and careers.

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5. Thematic Discussion: Tattoos and Legacy [46:00 - 49:43]

In the closing segment, Jamie-Lynn and Rob engage in a detailed analysis of tattoos from The Sopranos cast, appreciating the artistry and symbolism behind each design:

Jamie [48:56]: "Looks straight up, just like a photo. That's an incredible job."

They admire the commitment reflected in these tattoos, using them as a springboard to discuss the lasting legacy of their shared past.

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Key Takeaways:

• Virgin Island presents a provocative look into surrogate partner therapy, blending therapy with entertainment.
• The hosts navigate complex ethical discussions with their signature humor and insight.
• Celebrating their 100th episode, Jamie-Lynn and Rob share personal milestones and engage with guests in meaningful dialogues.
• Nostalgic reflections on The Sopranos deepen the personal connection between the hosts and their audience.
• The episode exemplifies the harmonious balance between comedy, heartfelt conversations, and introspection that defines Not Today, Pal.

Notable Quotes:

• Rob [05:22]: "They peaked."
• Jamie [19:35]: "There's no such thing as a virgin."
• Rob [25:47]: "You have to become a master of comeback lines."

This episode encapsulates the essence of Not Today, Pal, offering listeners a blend of humor, poignant discussions, and cherished memories from beloved television characters turned podcast hosts.

Transcript

[Rob]

Not today.

[Jamie]

So there is a new show out. It's only in the uk. I haven't figured out how to get it here yet. I tried two different ways. Both shut me down. I, I don't know. I'm gonna, I'm gonna figure it out.

[PG]

But how'd you hear about it?

[Jamie]

Somebody sent me an article about it and it's. I. We have a video of the trailer. And do you have it?

[PG]

This summer, 12 virgins are on a.

[Jamie]

Journey of self discovery. Being a young adult in this day and age, it's difficult.

[PG]

People see it as a joke.

[Jamie]

I don't know if I'm going to be doing it right. I'm worried about it hurting. It's just awkward.

[PG]

What's going to happen on this island is mind blowing.

[Jamie]

With expert help. My lucky boy. They'll meet temptation. I just don't want anyone to touch. Chase connection don't make you nervous. And experience intimacy. I'm like a different virgin there. I'm closer to losing it.

[Rob]

Woohoo.

[Jamie]

Would you like to move to bed? What do we. Can we get some dog?

[PG]

I mean it has you written all over it.

[Jamie]

Oh, I'm not that I'm a virgin.

[PG]

You're chomping at that.

[Jamie]

I like the show. Yeah.

[PG]

Whoa.

[Jamie]

I am so excited to watch this. I can't figure it out. When you try and watch it on YouTube, like they have the full episodes on and it's like, oh, like you're not in the uk. You're not allowed. You're not. Yeah. So I'm trying to find. It hasn't, hasn't happened yet. But I'm very excited to watch the show. And now. So what I wanted to talk to you about.

[PG]

But you know, if they put different music underneath it, it could have been an entire. If they put like dopey clown music, it would be an entire.

[Jamie]

Or like a sad violin, you know, you'd be like, oh yeah, poor guys.

[PG]

Yeah.

[Jamie]

But. Well what. So what. The thing that. The article that was sent to me about this is they have sex therapists and they are. Can you put the paragraph up there? All right, here we go. Yami. So I had to grab my phone. So this is what it says about the show. While most of us are familiar with the idea of sex therapists, the work of a surrogate partner therapist is more unknown and therefore potentially more misunderstood. These therapists are unique in their techniques, which include discussing intimacy, getting naked and practicing slow platonic touching. Some of them are qualified to have full intercourse with their clients.

[PG]

This is A job.

[Jamie]

I think I gotta get back into therapy.

[PG]

You would do this? You would for hire to somebody that you're not even attracted to, do soft touching and get naked?

[Jamie]

Only if it's under the guides of the therapy. No, no, I love. I just. Listen, I'm kidding that I'm gonna hire. I just think it's.

[PG]

Wow.

[Jamie]

Like it's just crazy to me how somebody can like so they're teaching somebody.

[PG]

How to be intimate and.

[Jamie]

Right.

[PG]

How to have sexual instincts.

[Jamie]

Which by the way, like why can't a hooker say that that's what they're doing?

[PG]

It is.

[Jamie]

Right? So it is. I was like, are people. Are these people get. Can. Can you look up this title? The. Wait, what was there. What was the name of them again?

[PG]

Surrogate therapist.

[Jamie]

Yeah, a surrogate partner therapist. So are these people getting like a degree? And then it's like, yeah, now you can them like is it like, oh no, you're only three weeks into your. I don't know your program. You can't your students yet.

[PG]

Right?

[Jamie]

And then it's like you graduated. They have the cap on. It's like now you can find out. Let's see. That is.

[PG]

What is a surrogate partner therapy? How do you get a license to do it?

[Jamie]

Svt. The surrogate partner works with the client under the guidance of a therapist to help them with their therapeutic goals. Related.

[PG]

Oh, it says licensed. A licensed therapist. It's often a sex therapist.

[Jamie]

I just. Could you imagine, could you imagine this as well? Like, you know, women are always trying to get guys to go to therapy, right? Imagine you could be like, hey, you go to therapy 45 minutes, last 15 minutes, I'll be out in the car. You could bang the therapist.

[PG]

Right?

[Jamie]

I think that's a. That's a kind. That's what you need like the give and give and take.

[PG]

Like hey, I don't think you're going to find many women that are going to sign up for that.

[Jamie]

But she's fucking certified, Jamie.

[PG]

That's what I don't think there wouldn't. These are for people that can't be in a relationship. These are for people that don't know how to be in a relationship.

[Jamie]

As of now.

[PG]

This isn't for people that are in relationships that learn how. Need to learn how to have sex.

[Jamie]

I think we branch out. No, I think people can be.

[PG]

These are people that don't know how to literally sit across from another human being and have it be anything but platonic.

[Jamie]

I mean it's. This show is going to be so fucking awesome. Shout out to Virgin Island. I haven't even seen it yet and it's my favorite show. Legality. The legality of SPT varies depending on location. It's often a legal gray area and regulations may not be well defined. Finding a qualified surrogate, it's crucial to work with a therapist who is experienced in SPT and can refer you. I mean, could you imagine? I think like, I think here's what's crazy, right? Is like I would have the same kind of.

[PG]

So don't you think a prostitute could be like, I'm not a prostitute, I'm a surrogate partner.

[Jamie]

That's what I'm saying. Yeah. She just has to go and get a certificate. A certificate. Get certified.

[PG]

You know how easy it was for me to get ordained to marry people? You know, I'm sure that's very similar.

[Jamie]

There you go.

[PG]

Yeah.

[Jamie]

Wow. I wonder. Wow. I mean, by the way we talk, like YMH produces shows, right? Is this not the next fucking reality show? Surrogate partners, like a surrogate therapist watching the full session and see how it goes.

[PG]

Because at least in America it would be original content.

[F]

We could do with cool guys.

[Jamie]

Yeah, right? And here's, here's the biggest problem, right? When most guys, when you're on a first date, second date, third date or whatever, you're wondering like, man, is this gonna happen? Like, are we gonna bang? Like what's gonna go down or whatever. This kind of sounds like it could mess up therapy where like the whole time you're just like, are we gonna bang? Like, are we able to fuck?

[PG]

But this is the thing, these are for people whose minds don't go there. They're like teaching them to go there with their mind, right?

[Jamie]

Well, I think, I think they want to go there, otherwise why would they be, why would they be on, on the island? We got to watch the show. We need to do like a watch along show with Virgin Island.

[PG]

Let's do it.

[Jamie]

It's. I've never been so excited for a.

[PG]

Show that I have. How do we watch it?

[Jamie]

Well, any said, try a vpn. I heard somebody talk about taking a honeymoon and they're like, yeah, we're taking our honeymoon next month, blah blah. And they're like, yeah, we're going to New York City. And I was like, just to me, I was like, that's wrong.

[PG]

Like, well, where are they from?

[Jamie]

I didn't get that. But just in my head, to me, tropical. Yeah, like you're on a beach, you're on this. Going To New York City is a honeymoon for me. Like, I. I realize that I'm 40 years old. That was the first time I had ever heard somebody being like, yeah, we're going to.

[PG]

Well, if they've never been. I mean, New York is a destination in the world for people that have never been there. You know what I mean?

[Jamie]

But it's not. It's not romantic, like, in that way. Like, it's gonna be like, yeah, hey, go yourself. Like, when you're on your honeymoon, you kind of want to be like, hey, like, you know, you want the.

[PG]

Like, you want, like. Yeah. You want spa vibes.

[Jamie]

Yeah. You want to be, like, on a chair laying down people bringing you drinks. You're in a. In a bathing suit having sex.

[PG]

I've never been on a honeymoon. I don't know. I like it. It's, like, very. It's. It's very diverse. And they're all different walks of life and people and they're all virgins. They're at a Mediterranean retreat. This is where you go to see sexy time.

[Jamie]

That's what I was trying to say.

[PG]

I get it. I get it.

[Jamie]

I get. I know where people feel sexy. It's not New York City sign.

[PG]

It says sign in to play episode one.

[F]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm pretty sure we could just make this Happen.

[PG]

He's on channel4.com and getting the episode.

[Jamie]

Very. I'm very excited.

[F]

A couple of those girls don't make a lot of sense to me.

[Jamie]

Oh, which ones?

[PG]

But none of them did one right there.

[Jamie]

How the. Has she not been, like, you know, she's. Well, I think that she's gonna be socially awkward from what I got from the trailer. That's. That's just what I'm getting. Is she the therapist? No, definitely not. That would be a dope. I'm signing up. Signing up. Sign me up. Yeah. Season two, here we come. It's gonna be all. Can you imagine the whole cast of season YMH studio guys?

[F]

They can't prove we're not virgins.

[Jamie]

Yeah, that's true. Yeah, well. Wow.

[PG]

Other people might be able to, but she's a lion.

[F]

They're lying.

[PG]

Your word against theirs.

[Jamie]

That's even more traumatizing to us, all these women saying they had sex with us.

[PG]

I mean, that woman.

[Jamie]

Get over that.

[PG]

Confidently showing off her belly button. You know, she knows how to be sexy.

[Jamie]

I wonder if she's a therapist. She could be a therapist. I don't think. Maybe, but I don't know.

[PG]

Oh, there's a bare ass right as the COVID photo of episode four.

[Jamie]

They show him naked, but also he's like, kissing her hand. Look at this. Episode one. She's like, getting close in, like, oh, my God. Could you imagine as. As. Listen, I just want to say, I think as a virgin, I think you want someone who's a little more on your level than like a professional sex person. Like, I think that's kind of intimidating of someone who's like, listen, I know what's right and wrong. Like, when you're a virgin, you want to be like, hey, we don't know what we're doing. So, like, is this good?

[PG]

Yeah.

[Jamie]

She's like, she knows.

[PG]

I wonder if any of them even masturbate. You know what I mean? Like, I'm wondering if any of them even, like, know about.

[Jamie]

I, I. By the looks of things, I'd say. I'd say that they masturbate. Can we sidetrack here for a second? Here we go. Adhd. Can you go down a little bit? Look at that third thumbnail. The girl who tried only fans. What's. What's her story? What's she doing? Jamie, can you describe? She looks like a wrestler. Oh, because she wants to hide her face. Documentary filmmaking. Jessica Brady delves into the world of adult content. Wow. We might have to watch everything on this website.

[PG]

This sounds like Channel 4. Sounds like Rob's new favorite place to go.

[Jamie]

Yeah, I'm. I'm really into that. We also have a new video from Joey Swole. Do you have the Joey Swole? Remember our buddy Joey Swole calls out women at the. At the gym. And this one's a little different. I wanted to get your opinion on this.

[PG]

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[PG]

Yes, of course.

[Joey Swole]

Do I look like I eat carbs? No, you look like someone that's arrogant and a narcissist that doesn't know how to act like an adult.

[PG]

Wow. Now he's just coming for people in the street, not anywhere.

[Jamie]

You're no one safe who's just trying.

[Joey Swole]

To do his job is no thank you. And you know what they say. You can tell a lot about somebody by the way they treat the wait staff in a restaurant.

[PG]

Very true, Very true.

[Jamie]

Joey Swole.

[Joey Swole]

I don't know if it's because you have money or you were on tv, but you think you're better than people.

[Rob]

You're not.

[Joey Swole]

And for you to take a video of that man to post it online.

[Rob]

You could pause it as shame and.

[Jamie]

Embarrass him and all this really upset him.

[PG]

Joey Swole for pr.

[Jamie]

Yeah. What do you. I thought when I first saw this video I thought it was a joke where she was like, do you think I eat carbs? Hahaha. But then she turns to her friend and is like, you believe this guy tried to give me.

[PG]

You don't think it was staged? Like she thought she was probably making like a cute, funny video.

[Jamie]

If you look at that face, she doesn't look like the woman of a. The face of a woman who's really. Could be staged.

[PG]

Could be.

[Jamie]

I'm not sure.

[PG]

Like why were they taking that video?

[Jamie]

I did see it. Cut, cut.

[F]

I will say that. Like, right there, that little cut.

[PG]

Oh, really? Whoa.

[Jamie]

Let's. Let's see where the pizza's at. Dude, do that again. I want to watch the pizza when you. When that cut happens.

[PG]

Gorgeous.

[Jamie]

Well, I think she's like a socialite.

[PG]

Like a influencer or like a.

[Jamie]

You know what's so funny? When I heard socialite, I'm like, aren't those called influencers now? That's what I thought. I thought Paris Hilton was, like, the last socialite, and then she kind of like. I don't know. I feel like people stopped using she.

[PG]

Is the last socialite. Great name for her next book.

[Jamie]

Absolutely. So we did our 100th episode, and I said, what was your favorite moment? And you said, pg. Yeah, it's just shock. It sent shockwaves through the whole not today, pal community. Everybody was shocked. I had a feeling, but I didn't want to bring it up. So we're. We're going to. We talk to pg. We're going to get him to call in. We're going to talk to pj. I miss right now.

[PG]

Oh, wow.

[Jamie]

Yeah.

[PG]

Wow. No warning. Okay. I feel like I should cover up.

[Jamie]

I don't think he could see us. Is he gonna pick up?

[PG]

Hello?

[Jamie]

Pg.

[Rob]

Who's this?

[Jamie]

It's Rob. Remember, we said we'd be calling you Rob?

[Rob]

Hey, Rob. What's up?

[Jamie]

What's up, buddy?

[PG]

Hi.

[Rob]

From Sopranos, right?

[Jamie]

That's the one.

[Rob]

Okay. Just want to make sure.

[Jamie]

Did you. Did you expect another Rob might be calling you since we scheduled this time in advance?

[Rob]

No, no. I just wanted to make sure.

[Jamie]

Oh, okay. And also, your Jamie Lynn is here. Hi.

[PG]

How are you?

[Rob]

How are you, Jamie?

[PG]

I'm good, thanks.

[Rob]

How have you guys been?

[Jamie]

Fantastic. We've been missing you. So PG is best known for appearing in your inbox, in your DMs, tweeting, telling you basically how much he loves your feet a lot.

[Rob]

So I think Jamie knows. Well, yeah, but that's the. You know, the way you guys start talking to me. Someone reached out to me.

[Jamie]

Yeah, yeah. PG. I want to let you know we recorded our 100th episode, and in it, I said to Jamie, of our hundred episodes, what was your favorite moment? And she said it was talking to you.

[Rob]

Really? When. When? Rob, you sound like you're. You're, like, talking, like, far away. Is there a way, like, you could fix the mic or something?

[Jamie]

Check, check. We want to make this as comfortable for you as possible. What have you Been up to?

[Rob]

Well, I got to say, I've been great. Yeah. I recently, little while back, you know, texted the, the, the YHM Studios, just see if I could come on again. But I didn't hear from him in a while and was strange. Was like maybe like two, three days ago, or I'll say this approximately. I don't know the exact time frame, but it was like a few days ago that he inboxed me and then he said, oh, yeah, you know, we could have you come on Thursday. So I was like, yeah, that's great. I gotta say, I've been. Well, I decided to retire, which I love. Retirement life.

[PG]

Wow.

[Jamie]

Congratulations.

[Rob]

Thank you. Yes. You know, it is. I. I'm still young. I just wanted other things to do well, actually, I'm actually what's on what's called a terminal leave. So in other words, my official date, like when I'm a retired. Retired is July 11, when I take a photo at, you know, our headquarters. And then, then I'm officially, officially done.

[PG]

Any, Any summer plans post retirement? Post official retirement?

[Jamie]

I think there's an island we. You might want to go to. We were just watching something about pg. We found out there's this TV show, right? And they have something called. What is it called? Surrogate. What?

[PG]

Partners.

[Jamie]

Surrogate partners. So now this is what we were talking about before you came on.

[Rob]

And.

[Jamie]

And basically there are these women now who are therapists.

[PG]

Or men.

[Jamie]

Or men. But I think it's a lot of women. They're certified to have therapy with men with their clients and then they can have sex with them. So it's like a sex therapy.

[PG]

Teach them how to be intimate?

[Jamie]

Yeah, they can go like all the way. What do you think of that? We just heard about that for the first time. It kind of blew our minds.

[Rob]

Wait, this. To be honest, this is the first time I'm hearing about it. This is a TV show.

[Jamie]

Us too. There's a TV show, and that's how we learned about it. Yeah.

[PG]

But this is an actual profession that you can have, a surrogate partner therapist. And basically you're a licensed therapist where you have a therapeutic relationship with your client, where you teach them how to be intimate, you teach them how to have a partner. And some people go as far as having sex with them to teach them how to have sex because a lot of the times they're virgins.

[Rob]

Right. So now with like the show you're talking about, I got to look this up. Why would someone have to go to someone to listen to someone when they could just learn all that on their own.

[PG]

The great question. These people just can't do it. They're virgins. They're adult versions.

[Jamie]

They're adult virgins. And that's the thing.

[Rob]

It's like virgins don't exist anymore.

[Jamie]

There's no such thing as a virgin.

[Rob]

In this day and time. I don't think so.

[PG]

What do you mean?

[Jamie]

This is a new conspiracy. I kind of like this.

[PG]

You're not.

[Jamie]

No such thing as versions anymore.

[PG]

You can't be, you know, you gotta. You gotta have sex to not be a virgin, right?

[Rob]

Yeah, but this. Women today having sex, like, is 15. Like, of course.

[PG]

But there is. There is a rare breed of people that go through much of their adult life without getting an opportunity to have sex. And that's what these therapists are there for, to teach them how to get their groove back.

[Jamie]

Yeah, like, pg, you obviously, you have a good job. You're the boss. You have a way with words. Some people are a little more awkward and they need help kind of seeing how to be normal in social situations. And that's even more enhanced with sex when they are uncomfortable around women or whatever. And these female therapists teach these guys how to be a little more confident, I think, and how to not be so shy or scared or nervous.

[Rob]

Yeah, but confidence is this. Some men out there that are not attractive at all, right? And could attract women, right? They could attract women based on they love themselves. Well, no, they. They. They love themselves. I. Well, it could be other things too. It could be. It could be money. The guys have money.

[Jamie]

Yes.

[Rob]

It could be, you know, their confidence level. It could be. It could be a lot of things. But.

[PG]

Maybe you should look into being a therapist.

[Jamie]

But here's the thing, pg, you just said, right? Self love. I think some people need to be taught self love. And I think a therapist could probably be way more helpful at that than somebody who maybe you're talking to, who maybe also doesn't have sex. Self love.

[Rob]

Well, well, Rob, why wouldn't they technically have self love? Maybe like when they were kids, maybe it was an insecure thing. Maybe they were bullied in school. Maybe a lot. Like, all right, a lot of kids, when they go to school, right? For example, that's the thing that kind of shapes them into, like how their mark, their thinking and ability is. For example, if. If kids bully all the kids, right? And they're just. And who do the bullies go after? They go after the kids that they know are just deep down good people and won't do anything back to them. And kids are not going to always tell their parents everything what's going on in school.

[PG]

Right.

[Jamie]

Such a philosophy, Right.

[Rob]

Like, Jamie, you have. You have children, right? Do you feel they tell you everything?

[PG]

No. I found out this year that my son had been being bullied for months, and he didn't tell me about it as a.

[Rob]

Like, here's the thing. I don't have children. So if you would ask me what would I do in that situation, I'm going to be honest. I have no idea.

[PG]

What would you do? What would you do? Pg if your kid came home and told you that kids were bullying him and, and messing with him and being mean to him, what would you do?

[Rob]

The truth?

[PG]

Yes.

[Rob]

You don't go to the principal. Nope. Because that could make things worse.

[PG]

Okay.

[Rob]

I would say you have to have a thick skin because I used to know some guys where. Because in. In school, it's. It's different sections. There's the popular kids, there's the cheerleaders, there's the bullies, there's the nerds.

[Jamie]

Where did you fall in when you were in school? What. What was your group?

[Rob]

I would say just not. Not bullied, just not popular. Just like in the middle. And I had. And I had my section of friends.

[Jamie]

I got a cool guy. You're just a cool guy.

[Rob]

I was liked by everybody.

[PG]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Rob]

But look what I. What I say sometimes I would look at the popular kids maybe, and say, maybe I wish I was them for a day.

[PG]

Yeah.

[Rob]

In other words, not say.

[Jamie]

Sounds like something you might want to talk about in therapy. Pg.

[Rob]

No, but here's the difference, though. Do I look at that any? Maybe back then, again, I always liked myself. But I'm saying, like, maybe back then, would I ever say, be myself and have what they had? Yeah, but see, here's the difference. When I run into some of these people now who are popular, some of them have terrible jobs.

[PG]

No, they.

[Rob]

Some of them are divorced.

[PG]

They peaked.

[Jamie]

Right. And you're. You're retired and tweet DM and celebrities about their feet. You got it made.

[Rob]

Well, just, just, just, just.

[Jamie]

Jamie, that's not true. That's not true.

[PG]

That's me.

[Rob]

Yes, it is.

[Jamie]

No, you've. You've. You. You said you've DMed other celebrities about their feet, haven't you?

[Rob]

No, I said, I use an example if I commented on certain celebrities that have nice ones. But no, Jamie's the only one I have ever inboxed. And when I inboxed, I didn't even know she was getting the. The. The text. Because, in other words, the. A lot of celebrities, like, you're not gonna think they're gonna write you back.

[PG]

Wait, so I want to go back to, like, what was your therapy advice? So if I came. If you were my therapist and I came to you and I said, my kids get around.

[Rob]

You're asking about your child, right?

[PG]

Yeah, but I should tell him. He's.

[Rob]

What? Great. What. What grades are they in?

[PG]

He just graduated fifth grade. So you're going to tell me that I should tell him to just have a thicker skin? That's kind of what my husband said, to be honest.

[Jamie]

Well, she does have a type.

[Rob]

Pg I'm going to be honest with you. It's. It's only going to get a little harder from here.

[PG]

I know it is.

[Rob]

Why? Well, just hear me.

[PG]

Tell me why.

[Rob]

For this reason. Well, all right. When I say thickest skin, I mean, like, he's got to become an expert with comeback lines.

[PG]

Yep.

[Rob]

In other words.

[PG]

Keep going. I love it. I'm so happy.

[Rob]

You can't tell your kid, right? Like, all right, you ever hear some parents say, well, if, you know, if they're bothering you, just punch them in the face? That's not the right exactly way to do it. No, I mean, look, if he was getting jumped, I mean, you got to tell him to defend himself. But I don't think going to the school either is a good idea because that can make it worse.

[PG]

Should we do a role play? Should I play your kid and you're the parent, or you. Rob plays our kid?

[Jamie]

No, you're. You and him got this. This is.

[PG]

So I'm going to pretend like I'm coming home to you and telling you what's going on, and I want you to give me your best parenting advice. Does that sound good?

[Rob]

Okay.

[Jamie]

Because PG has said he want. He wanted to be an actor and stuff, so this is his shot, right?

[PG]

Dad, I. I'm. I'm getting bullied so bad at school. The kids are making fun of my clothes. They are telling me that I'm stupid. Someone stole my lunch. What am I supposed to do? I'm scared to tell the teacher because that they're going to come after me even more. What should I do?

[Rob]

Okay, let me see.

[Jamie]

You called him daddy. That totally threw him off. That fucked them all up.

[Rob]

Let's see. No, no, no. I'm thinking.

[Jamie]

All right, you knew this was coming.

[PG]

Listen, when you're a parent, you guys, you can't. You can't show Them that you're doubting it.

[Rob]

Okay, wait. Just wanna make sure I have this. They stole his lunch. What was the other two.

[PG]

They took my lunch. They call me stupid. I got tripped in the hallway.

[Jamie]

Sorry.

[PG]

Stuff like that.

[Rob]

See, I got tripped in the hallway. All right, well, it sounds like. All right. Somebody always has on them something you can make fun of back. So like let's say they said to your son, that's a stupid color shirt. Something on them he could find where he could say something like. Or make it up. Say. Oh yeah, you think that color fits you? Even if it looks good on them, it'll still make them think whether it's a male or female making fun of them. Okay. For the. For the.

[Jamie]

What if he's just wearing a black shirt or like a white.

[Rob]

The tripping. Well, women you could say it to. They. They'll make them think all. And sometimes the women could be worse. Picking on other women.

[PG]

Yes.

[Rob]

In this case. Is it. Is it. Obviously. I'm assuming it's guys to. To a guy.

[Jamie]

Which guy? On guy.

[PG]

Boys.

[Rob]

Okay. So. All right, well, the tripping.

[PG]

Like about his athletic ability, his strength.

[Jamie]

Wait, we've fallen out of the. The role play. Hold on. Remember pg, you're daddy.

[PG]

First time.

[Jamie]

He's not your daddy. And. And Jamie, you're the kid. Sorry, go ahead.

[PG]

Yeah, we tried.

[Jamie]

Yeah, let's. Let's fall back into the role play.

[Rob]

Okay.

[Jamie]

Go ahead, James. Take it away.

[PG]

Dad, what do I do?

[Rob]

Well, son, you have to. You have. You have to have a thicker skin when you're walking and you see that guy who normally trips you just be aware that he's. He could be doing it again.

[PG]

Okay.

[Rob]

And some of that because. Because you can't give the advice trip him back because then that could cause a fight and a parent can't really do that.

[PG]

Right.

[Rob]

But with making fun of your son could find anything on.

[Jamie]

No, she is your son. She is your son in the role play.

[Rob]

Okay, let me phrase. In this role play. Yeah. Like let's say they make a fun of his athletic ability. None of these kids are professional athletes, so he could. Your son could find something in them to make fun of. As long as it's verbal, that's fine.

[PG]

Right?

[Rob]

You know, he. They could do. They could do it like that, but with pg.

[Jamie]

I gotta ask you something. In our hundredth episode, Jamie also said we were talking about you and she said that on the first episode, she felt like you were kind of head over heels for her. Like you were kind of in love with Her. And then. Yeah, you said you were like, Let me finish what I was saying. And then in the second time when you called in, she said you kind of pushed her to the side. She felt like you didn't have the same feelings anymore. Like the feelings had. Had died down a little. Is that right, Jamie?

[PG]

I don't remember this, but I don't doubt your memory. But I did not say that. What you just said, obviously.

[Rob]

Wait, let. Let. Just to be fair. Just to be fair, if you're asking me, like, is Jamie attractive? And stuff like that, of course. Right. But the show had a lot of attractive women too. Like, I move. I'm gonna be honest. If that photo wasn't posted, I most. I probably wouldn't have reached out to her.

[PG]

It's just about the feet. Would you want in? It would. Do you want another?

[Rob]

Well, it's. It's. It's that you're attractive too. Like here, let's say you would not were ugly and didn't have. And probably it's like the whole package at that point.

[Jamie]

Wait, what? Say, Jamie.

[PG]

What do you mean?

[Rob]

Say it again. I can't hear you.

[PG]

I said, would you like another foot pick on Instagram?

[Rob]

Yeah, why not?

[PG]

Okay.

[Rob]

You know, but again, the show. Oh, here's something I wanted to ask you guys. How come you guys don't have more people from the show, like, in other words, like from Sopranos. Come on. On your podcast?

[Jamie]

Because we're only. We're in Texas and it's not fun to really do it over zoom or the phone. So when we go to New York, we try and have them on or if they were ever here. But like. Yeah, it's just. Honestly, you are very entertaining over the.

[PG]

You're one of the few. You and Rob's dad are really. And his manager, the only people we talked to on the phone. Yeah.

[Jamie]

And I also think. Yeah, I just think you're. You're great on the phone. Other people, not so much. I think people lose interest. Were for you. It just never ends for us. We find you endlessly entertaining.

[Rob]

Well, I try, you know.

[Jamie]

Yeah.

[PG]

All right, so go ahead.

[Rob]

You never know. One day maybe I could fly out to Texas and beyond. I'm retired now, you know.

[PG]

That's right. You've got the time. You've got nothing but time.

[Rob]

Or. Or if you're in. In New York, you know, I can meet a spot like for photos and stuff.

[Jamie]

Well, what about, like, do you think we put you in some kind of Hannibal Lecter situation if you were here? Like, if. Because it's, it's very tight quarters. You'd be right next to Jamie. Do we put you in, like a straight jacket or like, how do we, how do we guarantee that you're going to behave?

[Rob]

Well, I don't think that would be an issue because, like, again, Jamie's. Well, I would be excited, but, like, I think I control myself.

[Jamie]

Yeah, you think so we, you know, Jamie has a. As she just talked about, she has kids, she has a husband. I don't know if we could just sit you down next to her. That might, that might just send the podcasting world into a tizzy. We'd have to do. So we'd have to do something to guarantee Jamie's safety here, especially if she's. She's, like, right now she's wearing open toe shoes. If she was doing this and you were here, I don't know how you would just sit here and, and, and be fine with it.

[Rob]

Well, no, I, I know it might come off as a little out there on why I, you know, initially in box, though. But the bottom line is the truth. A lot of people do have foot fetishes. They just don't admit it.

[PG]

People make careers on it and only fans. I get it, but that's what I'm saying.

[Rob]

Like, why would somebody have to fear someone when there's a lot of sexual.

[PG]

Just being overpractive of me, Jamie.

[Jamie]

I'll find out tomorrow. You want me to look what's going.

[Rob]

On here, if I may? Look what's going on with Puffy Combs. Right.

[Jamie]

What do you think of that whole situation?

[Rob]

I think he's going to jail.

[Jamie]

Well, yeah, I mean, that's, That's a pretty safe bet.

[Rob]

Look, here's the truth on every charge. I don't know. On something. Yeah, it looks like it.

[PG]

Yeah.

[Jamie]

You're a puffy sympathizer.

[Rob]

I. When I was younger, I liked him and Biggie Smalls. I think Biggie Smalls was the best rapper of all time.

[Jamie]

That's. That's the most logical thing you've ever said. We're with you on that one.

[PG]

Oh, yeah.

[Jamie]

Shout out.

[PG]

Okay. Before we let you go, we have. So we were asking each other a bunch of these questions earlier in podcasts, and we're asking all of our guests these questions. So let me ask you first. Have you ever read someone's diary?

[Jamie]

A girlfriend?

[PG]

Like a girlfriend? No, never. Would you ever?

[Jamie]

That's a yes.

[Rob]

I mean, maybe if she was at work and she left it open.

[Jamie]

So if she wasn't Sitting right there. You would basically.

[PG]

That's a great answer. Very honest. If she was at work and was open.

[Rob]

Well, I wouldn't ask her like outright. Can I see that? But if you're gonna leave it all behind her back.

[PG]

Yeah, no, this is. We're talking about doing it behind somebody's back, obviously, then in that case, yeah. Great. Okay.

[Jamie]

You're the man.

[PG]

What are your thoughts on professor student relationships? Like if a professor got into a relationship with a student, even if they're.

[Rob]

In college, I think it's fine as long as that she's not in his class, because then he could.

[PG]

Wow.

[Jamie]

Yeah, that's again, very logical. What about pg? Have you ever read a girl's phone that you were dating? Like, look through her phone?

[Rob]

Yeah.

[PG]

When was your last relationship?

[Rob]

See, maybe I. I've only in my life had two long term relationships. Like, if we're talking like two, like, like long term, the rest were just like hookups and stuff like that, you know? But I mean, like. Yeah.

[Jamie]

When was the last.

[Rob]

I wasn't.

[Jamie]

You really got to reign them in. When was the last relationship you had?

[Rob]

Maybe like four years ago.

[Jamie]

Four years ago. Okay, so when.

[PG]

When you're no one, no one on the radar right now.

[Rob]

Right now? No, I'm just gonna joy summer and then just go out and see, see what happens. But.

[PG]

I like it.

[Rob]

Yeah. No one's. No one. No one's serious right now. No.

[Jamie]

So when, when you read your girlfriend's phone, why did you do it?

[Rob]

Why?

[PG]

Like, was there a reason? Were you looking for something or you just.

[Rob]

I had no, I had no reason to think. Think she's cheating, but I just wanted to confirm it because. But in other words, look, was there any reason to look at the phone at that moment? That like. Okay, obviously if I heard things saying, like people telling me stuff like, yeah, yo, she's going out doing this, doing that, then I might be more suspected to do that. But if, if I just did it just to see like anything, like see if another guy was texting her or something like that. But it turned out nothing that I saw. So where was left open.

[PG]

Where was she when you opened her phone? Was she like in the shower with. Was she at work?

[Rob]

No, no, I, I never, I've had people's like, you know, sometimes stay over, but I never lived with someone. No, I think she just.

[PG]

Like, where were you? Oh, she went to the bathroom.

[Jamie]

Wow, that's risky. How were you doing that? A lot. You were. You would look through her phone a lot no. All right.

[Rob]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Jamie]

All right, well, listen, we. We gotta go. But we really appreciate you coming on the show. I thought that you would love to hear the fact that when I asked Jamie what was your number one moment of our 100 episodes, the first thing she thought of was you.

[Rob]

Well, thank you, Jamie.

[PG]

You're welcome.

[Rob]

And congratulations, Rob. Thank you, Jamie. One last thing. I always had to ask you this. There was a girl on the show, right? On Sopranos, right. I was kind of hoping. I. I think she's very, very beautiful.

[Jamie]

Oh, see, Jamie's right. You're stepping out on Jamie.

[Rob]

No, no, absolutely not. Jamie's beautiful, too, but. All right.

[PG]

She has ugly feet.

[Rob]

Do you remember the episodes when. Okay. You were going to these clubs, right, with this guy?

[Jamie]

Yeah. Is she a blonde girl who you're talking about?

[Rob]

Yes, but it's not Devin. Not Devin, no.

[Jamie]

It's later in the show. She. She. She. We ended up being in a car together, and then the car caught on fire. That's her. Right.

[Rob]

You know, I gotta double check. I. This. All right, this episode, it starts out where you're with this guy.

[Jamie]

I'm not going to remember what you're talking about. I think. Do you have your phone on you right now? P.G.

[PG]

He'S on it.

[Rob]

Hold on one second.

[Jamie]

That's right. Or can you Google? Can you Google something?

[Rob]

Wait, wait one second.

[Jamie]

Where's he going? Where are you.

[F]

I can Google it if he explains it.

[Rob]

Okay, wait, no, no, no.

[Jamie]

I need to look if this is the right girl. I need him to Google it. He's got to look.

[Rob]

Oh, yes, I. Let me. Oh, yeah, I have Google. What's the name?

[Jamie]

Emily. That's cool that you have Google. Emily Rat. No, Emily Wickersham. W I C K E R S H A M. Let's see if that's a girl you're talking about.

[Rob]

Okay, I'm sorry. Just spell the last name again.

[Jamie]

W I C K E R S H A M. She should pop up when you just put in, like, W I, C, K.

[Rob]

Yeah, I think that's all. I think.

[Jamie]

Yeah. So if you. Just to answer your question, me and Jamie had another podcast called Pajama Pants. Go back to that. We did an episode with her. You can watch that.

[PG]

She's great.

[Rob]

Cool.

[Jamie]

She's fantastic. Great person. Beautiful, lovely. She's a mom.

[Rob]

Now, when. When Tony said to you, if you remember what. Remember when they're on the couch and then Tony comes to you saying, listen, you better show up at this job tomorrow. It Was that girl sitting next to you on the couch on your left?

[Jamie]

I. Obviously, I don't remember that, but she.

[PG]

Posts her feet a lot.

[Jamie]

Yeah. Apparently you could find pictures of her feet online if you Google it. But don't get into that now because we don't have the. The time. But listen, pg, thank you so much for coming on. You are. You are the best guest in our podcast history, and we appreciate you. And everybody in the booth loves you. Everyone here, as he called it. What is it? YHM Studios.

[PG]

That's right. Everybody here.

[Jamie]

All right, buddy. Thank you so much.

[Rob]

Well, thank you. Thank you to everyone.

[PG]

Congrats on your retirement. Enjoy your summer.

[Rob]

Thank. Thank you. And hopefully I could be on again. Thank you.

[Jamie]

Anything you want to say to the people or Jamie before you go.

[Rob]

See? Yes, Jamie. It's gonna get a little worse in junior high because now it's gonna be like, I don't know. It's gonna be. No, Think about now.

[PG]

I know.

[Rob]

Now emotions are gonna. Becoming more into it now.

[PG]

I know, right?

[Rob]

Yeah. You know, acceptance. This girl doesn't like me. Why doesn't she like me? This kid's saying this. He's just gotta become a master of comeback line.

[PG]

You're so right. We have that. We've actually been working on comebacks with him, so.

[Rob]

Right.

[PG]

Right in line.

[Rob]

All right.

[PG]

You're right.

[Rob]

Be well. All right.

[Jamie]

Thank you, pg. Bye. It's always hard for me to re. To re. Get back into the. The pot after we do that.

[PG]

He's a mic drop.

[Jamie]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Jamie, you have your grave digging conspiracy.

[PG]

Oh, yeah. Bo just got highlights.

[Jamie]

Really?

[PG]

Yeah.

[Jamie]

Okay.

[PG]

All his friends bleached their hair, and I didn't let him fully bleach.

[Jamie]

That's gonna make it tougher in junior high.

[F]

Y' all want to hear some shit to really blow y' all's mind this morning? So as a side hustle, I did graves and graveyards and cemeteries across Bowling Green and surrounding counties. Something didn't set right with me today. As I was digging, the guy that's the director of the graveyard walked up to me and he was like, we need to lift that casket up and get it even.

[PG]

So we.

[F]

We put it on the tally and brought it back up. When we brought it back up, it come off even in a way, but it was crooked in the corner, so he's like, we gotta lift it. So I lifted it, me and him together. But the weirdest thing was it was really light. Like, extremely light. Like, and I'm not a big dude. So I was like, you know, I told him. I was like, what do you. Why is that so light? He was like, don't ask questions that you ain't ready for.

[PG]

Oh.

[F]

What are they doing?

[Jamie]

He's got a little PG in him. It's like, get to the point. You know, he's really. He's real. But the confidence.

[PG]

No, he knew this was gonna go viral. He knew where it was gonna find me.

[Jamie]

Any. What are those? I know you know about, like, anime, I feel. What are those two little, like, eyes down there? What is that, anime? Oh, I don't know. You're watching cartoons all the time and.

[F]

Cartoons, man, that's crazy. But I don't. I have no idea. Is that an emoji?

[PG]

It's just eyes.

[Jamie]

Oh, yeah.

[F]

Tanner was saying it's probably to cover his name or something. He probably.

[Jamie]

Oh, it's a weird. It's a weird place for a name on a. On a jumpsuit, but, yeah. So, James, you know what we need to do?

[PG]

I told you I stand by it.

[Jamie]

All right, here's the thing. Can we write this down back there? I think before, on our next couple of pods, when we try and get a grave digger on foreign.

[PG]

Let's try and be exciting.

[Jamie]

Let's try and get a grave digger here, and he can tell you what's really real. I mean, but what, Jamie? What have really. Really. What happens if we uncover that the.

[PG]

Bodies don't go in the ground bodies.

[Jamie]

And we really crack into something major? Are you ready to commit? Like, we might have to become spokesmans for have it already, but I'm saying this might start taking up some time in our lives. I'm down to do it with you if you want, but we. This is. What do they say? Like, you can't put the toothpaste.

[PG]

I'm almost done with the book. I've got, like, two months left, and I'm done.

[Jamie]

So how's your book going? How's it coming along?

[PG]

Good. I have to cut probably 20,000 words. It's too long.

[Jamie]

Really?

[PG]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jamie]

So that's all you have to do now, is cut and you're done?

[PG]

Well, no, now I have, like, you know, six months of edits with my editor, but my part of, like, writing my book is, like, my first, you know, draft. Like, my first, you know, I did my whole life. Here you go. Is done.

[Jamie]

Is there anything that you want to share on here that you have decided that you're going to cut out, but.

[PG]

You'Re still, like, I don't know. What I'm going to cut out yet.

[Jamie]

You don't know what you're going to cut out.

[PG]

We can make a. We can make a little. Any edit of that one we should do.

[Jamie]

We should do a whole pod. Sure, let's do a whole pod of things Jamie cut out of her book. So can you save anything you cut out? And we'll. I think that's gonna be.

[PG]

I have every draft I've ever done.

[Jamie]

Saved, so that's gonna be a good pot. And then let's just end with Soprano's tattoos.

[PG]

Oh, that's a cute one. They look like babies.

[Jamie]

That's a good one. I don't know if it's just because I know them or people from the show would feel the same. There's something missing in their faces where it's like, not them. It's a good job.

[PG]

Their face. Their faces are just very, like, plump. You know when you're younger and your face is just like, full.

[Jamie]

Yeah, yeah.

[PG]

It's Dreya and Michael Parioli.

[Jamie]

By the way, I wonder why it says four on the top.

[PG]

That's a six.

[Jamie]

Oh, sorry, Six. That's a tarot card. A tarot card. Oh, I get it. So you pulled that one.

[PG]

And they have a little gun for the L. That's very cute. Very thoughtful. I like it.

[Jamie]

Yeah. All right, next one. I mean, that's a. That's a great tat.

[PG]

Yeah, that's just a gym with the baby ducks in, like a very famous photo.

[Jamie]

Like an old school frame.

[PG]

Like an antique frame.

[Jamie]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. What is that? That photo was from something like a Vanity Fair.

[PG]

Yeah, it was like some Annie Leibowitz or something.

[Jamie]

Yeah yeah, yeah. What a grate picture. All right.

[PG]

It'S the pig with the bloody butchered axe. And it says Satriales, which is the pork store.

[Jamie]

His. His. His nose looks like a soda can. All right, let's go. We got. I think we're almost done.

[F]

Three different angles on it.

[PG]

Okay, so this dude's entire arm is Sopranos. I mean, his entire upper arm is Jim. The middle is. Is that Pio Mai? Is that his horse that he had? There's a tissue box, a waterfall, and then Johnny Sack on his forearm.

[Jamie]

All right, so to end the pod. To end the pod. Vince Kiritola just was writing me and he's like, please call me. Please call me.

[PG]

Is he okay?

[Jamie]

I hope so. But I want to FaceTime him and. And show him that tattoo.

[PG]

If he answers, check if he's okay first.

[Jamie]

Well, he know he's he. That's how he writes. Like, you know, he'll be like, please call me. It's not like, you know, he just left a voicemail and a text. But hopefully he's. Hopefully he's all right. But if. If he doesn't pick up, we'll just move on. I don't think he's picking up.

[PG]

Well, okay, so what's the other angle? The in. Is it his other arm? Well, the inside is. Oh, my God. It's Michael Perioli twice. And then Dominic Chianese twice. Wow. This is commitment. This guy loved the show. He loves Sopranos.

[F]

And this is the other.

[PG]

Again. Oh, I was like another horse again.

[Jamie]

That's a different guy. Oh, no, that's before. That's the first. Yeah. So let's go back to the first one, because I didn't. I was like, oh, let's call Vince. I think about that. That. I mean, that, like, you know what I was saying before the tissue box? I don't know that reference, but what I was saying before about how, like, it looks like Michael and it looks like Drea, but there's something missing. There is nothing missing from Vince Kiritola's face on that tattoo. I mean, that's a 10 out of 10. Like, that is.

[PG]

Yeah.

[Jamie]

Looks straight up, just like a photo. That's an incredible job.

[PG]

Yeah.

[Jamie]

I wonder what it says on that guy.

[PG]

And Michael's, too.

[Jamie]

Yeah, no, Michael's Michaels is really good, but that. Vince is like, holy. It was really good.

[PG]

Yeah, okay.

[Jamie]

I was here. It's a joke. Is that what he said when he got caught at a gay club? It's a joke. It was a joke.

[PG]

I don't remember.

[Jamie]

I was here. It's a joke.

[PG]

That's veto.

[Jamie]

It's a weird way to phrase that. Yeah, it's the gay. It's a gay veto. I mean, that's the. The New York. New York Post cover with James on it. If that was that a real thing, did that really happen?

[PG]

I don't know.

[Jamie]

All right.

[PG]

I don't remember going to Six Flags with you.

[Jamie]

I know. We've. We've potted too much today. It's too long.

[PG]

Bye.

[Jamie]

We'll talk to you. We'll see you guys next week. Blah, blah.

[Rob]

Bye. Not to say, whoa, whoa, not today.