What happens when an aristocratic British warlord meets a stickball-playing general from Texas? In this episode of "Now I've Heard Everything", host Bill Thompson sits down with acclaimed military historian Jonathan W. Jordan, author of "Ike and Winston", to unpack the extraordinary, turbulent, and unbreakable friendship between Dwight D. Eisenhower and Winston Churchill. iscover how this legendary "odd couple" clashed over World War II strategy, argued fiercely o Inside the episode: • The stark background differences that made them a true "odd couple." • Why Churchill wanted to rush central Europe to block the Red Army, and why Ike refused. • The dramatic post-war role reversal: Churchill the "Peace Warrior" vs. Ike the "Deterrence Man." • A look into Churchill's personal struggles with depression and his "long sunset."Get your copy of Ike And Winston by Jonathan JordanAs an Amazon Associate, Now I've Heard Everything may earn a commission from qualifying purchases.Chapters:00:00 - Introduction & The "Odd Couple" Backgrounds 02:20 - How Churchill Helped Create Eisenhower the Statesman 03:34 - The Post-War Role Reversal: War Hawk vs. Peace Warrior 05:29 - The Fierce Battle Over Berlin & Post-War Europe 11:10 - FDR’s Diminishing Power and the Shift of Alliance Control 14:52 - The Hilarious First Meeting That Churchill Completely Forgot 17:41 - Churchill’s "Black Dog" Depression & The Long Sunset 20:01 - Great Man vs. Organizational History: Did They Change Each Other? 24:12 - "The Cross of Iron": A Shared Vision for the Common ManGuest InformationJonathan W. JordanWebsiteSocial:Facebook Instagram Easier, more confident everyday conversation: "The Everyday What To Say"For more intriguing and engaging interviews each week, subscribe now on:Spotify Apple Podcasts YouTube