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Andrew Limbong
Hey, it's NPR's Book of the Day. I'm Andrew Limbong. Between Low Rise Jeans Making a Comeback and the Local Venue by Me Still Doing Indie Sleaze nights, it's pretty clear that we're going through a phase of millennial nostalgia. But what most people miss looking back on that era is how much it was predicated on us buying stuff, how our identities as consumers were the main thing that united us more than anything. At least that's an argument Colette Shade makes in her book Y2K how the 2000s Became Everything. In the book, she uses artifacts from the Y2K era from the late 90s to the mid-2000s to talk about politics and the economy and how we're still feeling the effects of that era today. My conversation with Colette Shade after the break.
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Andrew Limbong
In the late 90s, the future looked so bright, didn't it? We had pop stars in music videos dancing with robots in space. We had a president talking about all this extra money we had lying around.
Colette Shade
We expect the 1990 surplus 1998 surplus to be about $70 billion.
Andrew Limbong
And this new thing called the Internet promised a new age of interconnectivity that could unite us all. Of course, we do not now live in a techno utopia. Instead, by 2008, unemployment was up, the housing market was collapsing, and we were mired in a global war on terror. The writer Colette Shade calls these years from 97 to 08 the Y2K era in her new book, Y2K how the 2000s Became Essays on the Future that Never Was. And she's here now to talk about it. Hey, Colette.
Colette Shade
Hi, Andrew.
Andrew Limbong
So this book is much more than just millennial nostalgia. You know, there's you map on like Y2K aesthetics onto sort of an economic argument. But before we get to that, why did you pick these years specifically?
Colette Shade
So I picked these years because these were the years where Americans, and I write as an American, saw themselves as not being political subjects any longer. And what I mean by that is that by 1997 you had a couple of years of the dot com bubble inflating. You had this broad sense of optimism about the economy and technology. And there was this sense that, that all of these old political struggles that had happened in the past, be they against racism, sexism, economic inequality.
Andrew Limbong
Russia.
Colette Shade
Yeah, Russia. Labor versus capital, all kinds of wars, all of these things had been solved. And all we really needed to do was sit back, relax, invest in the stock market, and log onto the Internet. And then 2008 really punctured that because the economic consequences of the Great Recession actually undermined the American way of life in that regard. So because so many people lost their jobs and lost their homes, they could no longer say, my primary goal in life is to go shopping and be a homeowner. And so they started to search. And some of that searching brought people to more progressive politics like Bernie Sanders, but it also brought people to Trump and to conspiracy theories like QAnon. Hmm.
Andrew Limbong
You know, I think a lot of people would consider 911 to be either the end of an era or the beginning of a new one. But in your book it acts more like a hinge point. I think that's fair to say. So how did 911 influence this Y2K era?
Colette Shade
911 did not fundamentally change this understanding of the role of most people in America in the sense that what were we told to do as our patriotic duty after 9 11? It was go shopping. It was get down to Disney World. And then we were told to buy all of these clothes that had American flags on them and put flags everywhere and put flags on our cars. And really that wasn't ultimately that different from the shopping and pop culture centered lifestyle that was going on before 9 11.
Andrew Limbong
In the book, you talk about a number of artifacts from the Y2K era, some of which are still around, like Starbucks. Another cultural artifact that I'm really interested in is the H2 Hummer. And you talk about it As a way of addressing our attitudes towards climate change. Could you read part of the sections on page 145?
Colette Shade
The H2 summed up an entire way of thinking about the earth and Americans place on it about the future and Americans duty to it. The Hummer was an SUV without apology, without the fig leaves of safety ratings and seating capacity occasionally proffered by its more respectable peers, the Suburban, the Ford Expedition, the Chevrolet Tahoe, the Jeep Liberty, the Toyota Highlander. The Hummers design and colorways were a flashy celebration of profligacy and violence. People who drove Hummers did so because they knew all about climate change and they didn't give a if that's how.
Andrew Limbong
We saw one side of the climate change debate, how did we as a culture see the other side? The people who drove Priuses or something.
Colette Shade
Yeah, Priuses were seen as a way to ally yourself in. Yes, this budding culture war. Climate change, instead of being seen as this existential problem that we should all work together on, was seen as this. Again, a consumer question of are you a Hummer buyer or are you a Prius buyer? Not how can we all work together to find a common solution to this problem that imperils all of us?
Andrew Limbong
I think every generation thinks it is unique in some way. And so how did you gut check yourself while writing this book and ask like was this actually significant or was it just 15 at the time?
Colette Shade
Yeah, no, that's a great question. And I think that a big reason why I chose the form of the personal essay is that it allowed me a sense of uncertainty that I return to throughout the book. I don't necessarily know how much of my yearning for the Y2K era is just nostalgia for being a teenager, being 10 years old, and how much of it was that things really were better. However, there are actual measurable statistics that you can use to say by X measure things have gotten worse. For example, the cost of housing as compared to inflation or the severity and frequency of climate change related extreme weather events though all of those things have gotten worse in a measurable way. But of course when you talk about something like music, which, and to be clear, I'm not arguing that, oh, the music I had as a kid was better than the music today because there's lots of great music today, but I think that something like that, then you get into dicier territory because I mean that's all very subjective.
Andrew Limbong
Yeah, that was writer Colette shade. Her book Y2K how the 2000s Became Everything is out January 7th. Thanks Colette.
Colette Shade
Thanks for having me. Andrew.
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NPR's Book of the Day: Exploring Millennial Nostalgia and Y2K’s Economic Legacy
Episode Title: A New Book Examines Millennial Nostalgia and the Economic Consequences of Y2K
Host: Andrew Limbong
Author Featured: Colette Shade
Release Date: January 7, 2025
In this episode of NPR's Book of the Day, host Andrew Limbong delves into Colette Shade's insightful book, "Y2K: How the 2000s Became Everything." Shade examines the late 1990s to mid-2000s—a period she terms the Y2K era—to unpack the intricate relationship between millennial nostalgia, consumerism, and significant economic and political shifts.
Andrew Limbong [00:02]: "Between Low Rise Jeans Making a Comeback and the Local Venue by Me Still Doing Indie Sleaze nights, it's pretty clear that we're going through a phase of millennial nostalgia."
Shade posits that millennial nostalgia extends beyond mere aesthetic preferences; it was fundamentally anchored in consumerism. During the Y2K era, consumer behavior and purchasing identities were pivotal in forging a collective identity among millennials.
Andrew Limbong [00:20]: "...how our identities as consumers were the main thing that united us more than anything."
The late 1990s were marked by a surge in technological optimism, epitomized by the dot-com boom. This period fostered a belief that the internet would usher in unprecedented interconnectivity and prosperity, masking underlying economic vulnerabilities.
Colette Shade [03:03]: "There was a broad sense of optimism about the economy and technology. And there was this sense that all of these old political struggles... had been solved."
Shade argues that the 2008 financial crisis was a watershed moment that shattered the illusion of unending economic prosperity. The resulting unemployment and housing market collapse forced millennials to reassess their consumer-centric identities, leading to broader political and social repercussions.
Colette Shade [03:44]: "2008 really punctured that because the economic consequences of the Great Recession actually undermined the American way of life in that regard."
While many view the September 11 attacks as a definitive end or beginning of an era, Shade sees it as a hinge point that maintained the consumer-focused narrative. Post-9/11 patriotism was, in her view, an extension of pre-existing consumerism rather than a shift towards collective national unity.
Colette Shade [04:49]: "We were told to buy all of these clothes that had American flags on them and put flags everywhere... really that wasn't ultimately that different from the shopping and pop culture centered lifestyle that was going on before 9/11."
Shade utilizes cultural artifacts like the Hummer H2 and the Toyota Prius to illustrate divergent attitudes toward climate change. The H2 represents unabashed consumerism and climate indifference, while the Prius symbolizes emerging environmental consciousness. This dichotomy reflects a nascent culture war over environmental responsibility.
Colette Shade [05:47]: "The H2 summed up an entire way of thinking about the earth and Americans' place on it... The Hummer's design and colorways were a flashy celebration of profligacy and violence."
Colette Shade [06:34]: "Priuses were seen as a way to ally yourself in... Climate change... was seen as this... consumer question of are you a Hummer buyer or are you a Prius buyer?"
Shade navigates the complex terrain of nostalgia by balancing personal reflections with tangible metrics. She acknowledges that while certain aspects of the Y2K era may evoke fond memories, objective data indicates significant economic and environmental declines since then.
Colette Shade [07:20]: "I don't necessarily know how much of my yearning for the Y2K era is just nostalgia... however, there are actual measurable statistics... that you can use to say by X measure things have gotten worse."
Colette Shade's "Y2K: How the 2000s Became Everything" offers a nuanced exploration of how a decade defined by technological optimism and consumerism continues to influence contemporary social and economic landscapes. By dissecting cultural symbols and economic trends, Shade provides a compelling narrative that bridges millennial nostalgia with the enduring consequences of the Y2K era.
Andrew Limbong [08:40]: "Yeah, that was writer Colette Shade. Her book Y2K how the 2000s Became Everything is out January 7th. Thanks Colette."
Shade's contributions to understanding the Y2K era underscore the intricate ways in which past consumer behaviors and economic policies shape present-day societal dynamics.
Notable Quotes:
Colette Shade [03:44]: "2008 really punctured that because the economic consequences of the Great Recession actually undermined the American way of life in that regard."
Colette Shade [05:47]: "The H2 summed up an entire way of thinking about the earth and Americans' place on it."
Colette Shade [07:20]: "I don't necessarily know how much of my yearning for the Y2K era is just nostalgia... however, there are actual measurable statistics... that you can use to say by X measure things have gotten worse."
This comprehensive summary encapsulates the key discussions and insights from Andrew Limbong and Colette Shade, offering listeners a thorough understanding of the themes explored in "Y2K: How the 2000s Became Everything." Whether you're nostalgic for the turn of the millennium or interested in the economic forces that shaped today's world, this episode provides valuable perspectives on a transformative decade.