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Report more@inter.com NPR parenting young children can be really hard. The sleep deprivation, the over stimulation, the lack of alone time. But parenthood can also be beautiful and hilarious. Oh, those squishy baby cheeks and those tiny singing voices. After farm after song, green after farmers, happy, happy, happy sometimes. That's artist Lauren Brandt laughing with her daughter Dahlia. Brandt's beautifully captures the nuance that is parenting in her new book, Poems of Parenting. She says she hopes to make parents laugh and see they are not alone in the, well, mildly torturous journey of parenting. She joins us now from New York. Lauren, welcome.
Lauren Brandt
Hi. Thanks for having me.
Interviewer
So, Lauren, let's jump right into your poetry so our listeners can get a sense. How about you start by reading one of your poems? Let's start with the one called Monitor.
Lauren Brandt
Okay. You'll just have to imagine a little drawing of a woman looking at her monitor. Monitor. It will be hard for me to unplug your monitor if I could watch you at 43, sitting at your work, making sure you take lunch breaks, making sure you're happy. How can I unplug the monitor when I care so much to see? I promise it's not creepy. I'm just a silly mommy. Okay, that came out creepy. Please just ignore me.
Interviewer
There were so many poems in here that I laughed out loud at. That was one of them. And then there's this other kind of poem I want to read one of my favorites to you, Lauren.
Lauren Brandt
Great.
Interviewer
It's called Dinner Plate. Night after night, plate after plate, grain, veggie, fruit, protein in place, watching it never go into the mouth on your face, trying to be chill and breezy. A healthy relationship with food is the mum. I'd like to be sitting with a smile, secretly thinking all the while, from a global standpoint, this is super beep. Oh, my God, the waste. The waste. I loved that, Lauren. That so nailed it for me. And I think what I love about your poetry is that you put words to things we all experience, yet don't or can't talk about. It's kind of a process of making me, us as parents, feel seen. And I'm wondering, do you and your kind of community, mommy friends talk about these things? Because there are so many little things that happen to us as we're parenting that we don't actually go and process with other people. It's just so. Life just keeps going so quickly.
Lauren Brandt
Yeah. I mean, it's truly exhausting parenting. And I know me and my mom friends talk about it, and we send each other memes on Instagram about all the feelings. But it is, you know, I don't think a lot of the parenting books that I read before I had kids really. It's really hard to capture what being a parent is gonna be like. And I do think I came pretty close with this book, at least from an emotional standpoint. Like, it'll say, you know, you need to change your kid's diaper this many times a day, but it doesn't say how you're feeling while you're changing the diaper. It's kind of a different perspective, you know?
Interviewer
Another one that I love in your book is Spicy Little Nugget. Can you read that one for us?
Lauren Brandt
Sure. It's about my daughter. Woke up angry, woke up sad, only wants mom doesn't want dad. Woke up yelling, full of rage. I guess this is just the age. Spicy Little Nugget, Angry mini bean, My tiny, raging sweet pea. I'll make sure you feel seen.
Interviewer
You know, on some level, it's beautiful, and on some level, it's so frustrating, you know, like, why do you have to be mad over nothing? I think is a thought that has raged in my head. How did writing a poem help you process your daughter in that moment?
Lauren Brandt
You know, with my daughter, I found that imaginative play is the most helpful thing for her when she's having big feelings. If I can catch her before, they're so big that I just kind of have to let her have that moment. And this is gonna sound kind of funny, but. So I was calling her, like, are you a little spicy nugget? Kind of, like, playfully. And then I was like, I'm gonna cool you off. So I, like, picked her up, and I'm like, I'm gonna dunk you in some buttermilk, which, like, I don't know. I've never dunked a spicy nugget in buttermilk, but it made her laugh, and it turned this whole thing and kind of just seeing her more as, like, a little spicy nugget versus, like, you know, you know, you're not on opposing sides as your kid. You're on the same team. They want to be good. You know, she has disabilities, and she gets dysregulated, so I kind of just have to meet her where she's at and see her as, like, the precious person she is and try not to get too mad when she's so spicy.
Interviewer
We're speaking with Lauren Brantz, who is the author of a book of Poetry Po. Poems of parenting and wonder. Lauren, you know, you were a preschool teacher, an art teacher. You've written and illustrated children's books. You even worked behind the scenes on popular shows such as Sesame street and Miss Rachel. This is your first book for adults. What inspired you to switch your focus creatively from kids to parents?
Lauren Brandt
You know, I didn't really think of it as a book at first. It was more like my children kind of broke me open and all these poems started pouring out. Mind, body, and spirit broke. It was very sudden. We were all sick. Everyone had colds, and nobody was sleeping. And I had finally gotten my son down. And I went and I finally got into bed, and I was looking at photos of him lovingly. He's so adorable. And I was like, ugh. Finally going to go to sleep, and I hear him cry. And I was like, no, shut your little baby face. I didn't say I didn't like that, but that was my feeling. And I wrote that first poem that night, and then I wrote, like, 50 more, and I just couldn't stop writing them.
Interviewer
I have to tell you, I remember when the children's book Go the F to Sleep came out, and I had very, very little ones then, and it was so liberating because that was kind of exactly what you sometimes scream in your head. And I feel like yours is a version of that where we're allowed to say out loud or laugh out loud at the things that maybe are a bit taboo, that we're supposed to have it together as mums, as parents, we're supposed to know how to do all these things. And. And I'm just wondering if. If you can share your poem, Mum Joy, then I think it really captures some of these things.
Lauren Brandt
Mom joy. Almost 40. Finally realize what my body is for. It's not for you. It's not for them. My children come close, but not even then. It's really for me to carry my brain, which holds more than expected. Stroll around target, solve big problems, do nothing. Soft, fleshy mush. Watch out, everyone. Here comes my tush.
Interviewer
I mean, what's your message here to moms?
Lauren Brandt
You know, I'm almost 40, and I've actually really enjoyed reaching this age. It feels very liberating. You know, I've had my kids. I'm not as worried about the way I look. And having children, you do realize you can hold so much more in your brain. It's, like, beyond your work and your life and this and that. You're, like, thinking about all these things for them all the time. And even though there's, you know, there was a mom brain, which I think people find derogatory, I think it's kind of positive. It's like you're a little foggy, but you're remembering way more than most people because you're just thinking in a different way.
Interviewer
Yeah, I kind of like to think of it as your brain's keeping so many lines of a train running cross intersections in all sorts of ways. So foggy, I think is just. Just doesn't come close, really, to what our brains are doing. I wonder, though, if you can end for us, because even though parenting is hard, your book really brings out the beauty and the fun that comes with parenting. And I know you and your kids love to have dance parties to queen before bedtime. Let's listen. I love this. What does that moment mean at the end of your day?
Lauren Brandt
Oh, it's. It's the best feeling in the world. I. I always say whenever things are kind of not going right at home, we have a dance party. Just being with my kids and playing music and dancing around, it always brings to light what I feel like is most important.
Interviewer
Artist Lauren Brandt's. Her new book is called Poems of Parenting. Lauren, thank you so much.
Lauren Brandt
Thanks for having me.
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NPR's Book of the Day: Lauren Brantz's 'Poems of Parenting'
NPR's Book of the Day delves into the heartfelt and humorous world of parenting through Lauren Brantz's latest work, Poems of Parenting. Hosted by Andrew Limbong, this episode offers listeners an intimate exploration of Brantz's poetry that captures the multifaceted experiences of raising children. Released on May 6, 2025, the episode provides a comprehensive look into how Brantz transforms everyday parenting challenges into relatable and amusing verses.
Andrew Limbong opens the episode by sharing a relatable anecdote about the unpredictability of parenthood:
“The other night my toddler was up at 11 and then at 2am and then I fell asleep on the floor of her room. And then she woke up again and I thought it was six. So I picked her up and brought her downstairs until I realized it was only 3am. It's one of those moments where all you can do is laugh because I don't know, what else are you gonna do?”
— Andrew Limbong [00:45]
This moment sets the tone for the discussion, highlighting the blend of exhaustion and humor that Brantz captures in her poetry.
Lauren Brantz brings a wealth of experience as a preschool and art teacher, as well as a background in writing and illustrating children's books. Her work behind beloved shows like Sesame Street and Miss Rachel adds depth to her new venture into adult literature. In this episode, Brantz discusses her first book for adults, Poems of Parenting, which emerged from her personal experiences as a parent navigating the chaotic and joyous moments of raising children.
Brantz begins by reading one of her poems, "Monitor," which encapsulates the constant vigilance parents maintain:
“You'll just have to imagine a little drawing of a woman looking at her monitor. Monitor. It will be hard for me to unplug your monitor if I could watch you at 43, sitting at your work, making sure you take lunch breaks, making sure you're happy. How can I unplug the monitor when I care so much to see? I promise it's not creepy. I'm just a silly mommy. Okay, that came out creepy. Please just ignore me.”
— Lauren Brantz [03:51]
The interviewer praises the poem, noting how it resonated with her own experiences:
“There were so many poems in here that I laughed out loud at. That was one of them.”
— Interviewer [04:22]
Another standout poem, "Dinner Plate," is shared to illustrate the subtle frustrations and humorous observations of mealtime dynamics:
“Night after night, plate after plate, grain, veggie, fruit, protein in place, watching it never go into the mouth on your face, trying to be chill and breezy. A healthy relationship with food is the mum. I'd like to be sitting with a smile, secretly thinking all the while, from a global standpoint, this is super beep. Oh, my God, the waste. The waste.”
— Interviewer [04:34]
Brantz responds to the impact of her poetry:
“I do think I came pretty close with this book, at least from an emotional standpoint. Like, it'll say, you know, you need to change your kid's diaper this many times a day, but it doesn't say how you're feeling while you're changing the diaper. It's kind of a different perspective, you know?”
— Lauren Brantz [05:43]
The episode emphasizes how Brantz's poetry offers a sense of community and validation for parents. The interviewer highlights how Brantz's work allows parents to feel seen and understood in their everyday struggles:
“What I love about your poetry is that you put words to things we all experience, yet don't or can't talk about. It's kind of a process of making me, us as parents, feel seen.”
— Interviewer [05:43]
Brantz acknowledges the exhaustion that comes with parenting and the role of her support network:
“I know me and my mom friends talk about it, and we send each other memes on Instagram about all the feelings. But it is, you know, I don't think a lot of the parenting books that I read before I had kids really. It's really hard to capture what being a parent is gonna be like.”
— Lauren Brantz [05:43]
A pivotal moment in the discussion revolves around Brantz's poem "Spicy Little Nugget," which portrays her daughter's intense emotions:
“Woke up angry, woke up sad, only wants mom doesn't want dad. Woke up yelling, full of rage. I guess this is just the age. Spicy Little Nugget, Angry mini bean, My tiny, raging sweet pea. I'll make sure you feel seen.”
— Lauren Brantz [06:27]
Brantz explains how writing this poem helped her navigate her daughter's dysregulation:
“With my daughter, I found that imaginative play is the most helpful thing for her when she's having big feelings... I kind of just have to let her have that moment... It made her laugh, and it turned this whole thing and kind of just seeing her more as, like, a little spicy nugget versus, like, you know, you know, you're not on opposing sides as your kid.”
— Lauren Brantz [07:06]
This approach underscores the therapeutic aspect of poetry in managing and understanding parental emotions.
Brantz shares the genesis of her book, which began as an outpouring of emotions during a particularly chaotic period:
“We were all sick. Everyone had colds, and nobody was sleeping. And I had finally gotten my son down. And I went and I finally got into bed, and I was looking at photos of him lovingly. He's so adorable. And I was like, ugh. Finally going to go to sleep, and I hear him cry. And I was like, no, shut your little baby face. I didn't say I didn't like that, but that was my feeling. And I wrote that first poem that night, and then I wrote, like, 50 more, and I just couldn't stop writing them.”
— Lauren Brantz [08:32]
The interviewer draws parallels between Brantz's work and other candid parenting literature, highlighting the liberation that comes from expressing unfiltered emotions:
“I remember when the children's book Go the F to Sleep came out, and I had very, very little ones then, and it was so liberating because that was kind of exactly what you sometimes scream in your head.”
— Interviewer [09:19]
In the poem "Mom Joy," Brantz explores the reconciliation of personal identity with motherhood:
“Mom joy. Almost 40. Finally realize what my body is for. It's not for you. It's not for them. My children come close, but not even then. It's really for me to carry my brain, which holds more than expected. Stroll around target, solve big problems, do nothing. Soft, fleshy mush. Watch out, everyone. Here comes my tush.”
— Lauren Brantz [10:01]
Brantz elaborates on the empowerment that comes with embracing her role as a mother:
“I'm almost 40, and I've actually really enjoyed reaching this age. It feels very liberating... you can hold so much more in your brain. It's, like, beyond your work and your life and this and that. You're, like, thinking about all these things for them all the time.”
— Lauren Brantz [10:30]
The interviewer muses on the cognitive changes motherhood brings, likening it to managing intricate systems:
“I kind of like to think of it as your brain's keeping so many lines of a train running cross intersections in all sorts of ways.”
— Interviewer [11:11]
Concluding the episode, Brantz shares the significance of joyful moments amidst parenting challenges, such as spontaneous dance parties:
“It's. It's the best feeling in the world. I always say whenever things are kind of not going right at home, we have a dance party. Just being with my kids and playing music and dancing around, it always brings to light what I feel like is most important.”
— Lauren Brantz [11:59]
This sentiment encapsulates the essence of Poems of Parenting—finding beauty and joy in the everyday moments of raising children.
Lauren Brantz's Poems of Parenting serves as both a mirror and a companion for parents navigating the tumultuous yet rewarding journey of parenthood. Through her evocative and humorous poetry, Brantz provides a space for parents to laugh, reflect, and feel less alone in their experiences. NPR's Book of the Day episode effectively highlights the depth and relatability of Brantz's work, making it a must-listen for anyone interested in the literary portrayal of parenting.
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This detailed summary encapsulates the essence of the podcast episode, providing a comprehensive overview of Lauren Brantz's Poems of Parenting and the meaningful conversations it sparks about the realities of parenthood.