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Andrew Limbong
Hey, it's NPR's Book of the Day. I'm Andrew Limbong. Happy Hanukkah to all of you out there. It's funny, if I were writing an intro for a Christmas book, it'd be easy for me to throw in a reference to a reindeer here or a Santa there and it automatically becomes Christmassy. That's a little harder to do with Hanukkah, which is why today's author wanted to write this book in the first place. It's a kids book called the Hanukkah Magic of Nate Godol, illustrated by Kevin Hawkes and written by Arthur Levine. It came out back in 2020, and Levine spoke with NPR's Scott Simon about feeling left out, seeing the wide cast of characters available to people who celebrate Christmas and wanting one for Jewish people. That's up ahead.
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Scott Simon
Hanukkah is not some kind of Jewish Christmas. The holiday, which began this week, commemorates the rededication of the second Temple of Jerusalem, where Jews, reclaiming the temple after a revolt, found a one day supply of oil to light its menorah and it lasted for eight nights. Hanukkah is called the Festival of Lights, which in North America seems to fold its smack into the lights of the Christmas season. Arthur Levine and Kevin Hawkes have written and illustrated a new book for children that may help explain how Hanukkah and Christmas have come to be helpful neighbors. The Hanukkah Magic of Nate Godoll. Arthur Levine, the acclaimed editor and author of children's books, joins us from somewhere in New Jersey. Thanks so much for being with us.
Arthur Levine
Thank you, Scott. Nice to be here.
Scott Simon
Let me ask you about the character at the center of this story, Nate Gadol. And his gift is to make things stretch, isn't it?
Arthur Levine
Yes. And the inspiration for that comes from the story of the Hanukkah miracle. But I really wanted to create a kind of pourquoi story about why Jews started to give presents on Hanukkah. And the truth is that it did happen at a very specific time, the late 1880s, because Jewish merchants saw an opportunity. There were more middle class Jews around, and they thought, hey, let's sell them on the idea of presents. But that's not a particularly magical story, is it?
Scott Simon
Well, and not to give anything away, you have an encounter between Nate Godoll and the biggest, what I'll just call the biggest present provider of them all.
Arthur Levine
So the other part of the inspiration was that when I was a kid, I remember feeling really erased by Christmas. Every time I turned on the tv, there was another Christmas special with all of these wonderful stories and characters and, you know, Rudolph the Red nosed Reindeer and Frosty the Snowman and of course, Santa Claus. Christians have this incredibly, like this incredibly rich mythology that has almost nothing to do with the story of Jesus, but. But has become associated with the wonderful celebration of Christmas. So I really wanted to add a mythological hero that Jews could call their own. Hence, Nate Gadol.
Scott Simon
You've gotta be hoping it's not just Jewish families that read this.
Arthur Levine
Oh, of course. And I also think that Jewish families take many shapes. Our son has been raised Jewish, but one of his parents is fully Jewish. That's me. And the other parent is Catholic. Still, he does Christmas. Yeah. You know, that's a thing that brings his family together and they have all these joyful traditions. And that's an important reason why I think it's not constructive to say no, keep your mythology away from our mythology. Don't ever have them in the same universe. Well, why not? We all have imaginations. And you're not constructing your religion out of the stories that you tell on a holiday.
Scott Simon
I wonder, is there a theme or message in the Hanukkah magic of Nate Godoll that we can help each other out when it comes to bringing a little light into the lives of children.
Arthur Levine
I think that this is absolutely a story of generosity and empathy. Even as it, quote, explains presence, it really does. So in the context of these two families, the Glazers and the O'Malleys, going through difficult times and really wanting to help each other, and what Nate Gadol provides is really the spirit to carry out that impulse to human kindness.
Scott Simon
Arthur Levine, who's written the Hanukkah Magic of Nate Cadoll, Hanukkah Tov to you. Thank you, thank you.
Arthur Levine
Chag Sameach.
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Summary of NPR's Book of the Day Episode: "The Hanukkah Magic of Nate Godol"
NPR's Book of the Day, hosted by Andrew Limbong, features an engaging episode released on December 26, 2024, that delves into the children's book "The Hanukkah Magic of Nate Godol" by Arthur Levine, illustrated by Kevin Hawkes. This episode explores the inspiration behind the book, its central themes, and its significance in fostering inclusivity during the holiday season.
The episode opens with Andrew Limbong introducing the book, highlighting its role in providing Jewish children with their own mythological figures akin to the rich tapestry of Christmas characters. Limbong remarks:
"It's a kids book called The Hanukkah Magic of Nate Godol, illustrated by Kevin Hawkes and written by Arthur Levine. It came out back in 2020..."
— 00:02
This sets the stage for a discussion on the necessity of diverse holiday narratives in literature.
Arthur Levine shares his personal motivations for creating Nate Godol, emphasizing his desire for representation within Jewish traditions. He reflects on his childhood experiences feeling "erased by Christmas," acknowledging the abundance of Christmas specials and characters that overshadowed Jewish festivities.
"I remember feeling really erased by Christmas. Every time I turned on the TV, there was another Christmas special..."
— 03:29
Levine explains that the character Nate Gadol was conceived to provide Jewish families with their own mythological hero, fostering a sense of identity and pride.
Nate Gadol, the protagonist, possesses the magical ability to make things stretch, a gift inspired by the Hanukkah miracle of the oil lasting eight nights. This power symbolizes the extension of generosity and kindness, key themes in the story.
"Nate Gadol provides really the spirit to carry out that impulse to human kindness."
— 05:27
The character's abilities serve as a metaphor for the enduring spirit of Hanukkah and its emphasis on resilience and hope.
The book intricately weaves themes of generosity and empathy through the interactions between two families, the Glazers and the O'Malleys. Both families face challenging times and seek ways to support each other, with Nate Gadol facilitating acts of kindness that strengthen their bonds.
"This is absolutely a story of generosity and empathy."
— 05:27
Levine underscores the importance of these values, especially during the holiday season, highlighting how Nate's magic fosters a community of care and mutual support.
A significant portion of the discussion centers on the blending of Jewish and Christian holiday traditions within families. Levine shares his personal experience of raising a child in a mixed-faith household, where both Hanukkah and Christmas are celebrated harmoniously.
"That's an important reason why I think it's not constructive to say no, keep your mythology away from our mythology."
— 04:25
This perspective advocates for inclusivity and the enrichment that comes from sharing and embracing diverse cultural narratives.
In wrapping up the conversation, Levine emphasizes that "The Hanukkah Magic of Nate Godol" serves not only Jewish families but also enriches the broader tapestry of holiday storytelling. By introducing a Jewish hero with his own magical lore, the book fosters greater understanding and appreciation among diverse audiences.
"We all have imaginations. And you're not constructing your religion out of the stories that you tell on a holiday."
— 04:25
The episode underscores the book's role in promoting empathy, generosity, and cultural inclusivity, making it a valuable addition to contemporary children's literature.
Key Takeaways:
Representation Matters: "The Hanukkah Magic of Nate Godol" fills a gap in children's literature by providing Jewish families with a unique holiday hero.
Themes of Kindness: The story emphasizes the importance of generosity and empathy, reflecting the core values of Hanukkah.
Cultural Inclusivity: The book encourages the coexistence of diverse holiday traditions, promoting understanding and harmony within mixed-faith families.
Personal Connection: Arthur Levine's personal experiences inform the narrative, adding authenticity and depth to the story.
This episode of NPR's Book of the Day offers a comprehensive look at how "The Hanukkah Magic of Nate Godol" contributes to enriching holiday celebrations and fostering a more inclusive cultural landscape.
Note: Times in brackets refer to the timestamp in the original podcast transcript.