'We the Women' and 'Rise, Girl, Rise' are stories about revolutionary women

Summary

Podcast Summary: NPR's Book of the Day

Episode: "We the Women" and "Rise, Girl, Rise" are Stories About Revolutionary Women

Host: Andrew Limbong
Air Date: March 13, 2026

---

Main Theme

This episode, released just after International Women’s Day, spotlights two new books that celebrate revolutionary women: Nora O’Donnell’s We the Women: The Hidden Heroes Who Shaped America, and Gloria Steinem & Leymah Gbowee’s children’s picture book Rise, Girl, Rise. The conversations delve into forgotten female heroes of U.S. history and inspiring stories of global feminist activism, with an emphasis on visibility, legacy, and the importance of community for tomorrow’s changemakers.

---

Section 1: Revolutionary Women in American History

Featured Book: We the Women by Nora O’Donnell

Conversation between Nora O’Donnell and NPR’s Mary Louise Kelly

[01:24–09:22]

Key Insights & Discussion Points

• Rediscovering Unseen Women:

  • The book highlights women who shaped American history but have been largely excluded from the mainstream narrative.
  • Example: Mary Katherine Goddard—the woman who printed the first official copy of the Declaration of Independence with her own name included, despite the risks.
    • “She wanted to be remembered. She wanted to be part of this founding document. And… it was dangerous and treasonous to put your name on that document.”
      —Nora O’Donnell, [03:14]

• Deborah Sampson—the First Woman Soldier:

  • Deborah Sampson disguised herself as a man to serve in the Continental Army, suffering wounds but persisting to advocate for her rights post-war.
    • “She’s probably the first woman in America to take a bullet for her country. …there should be a movie about Deborah Sampson.”
      —Nora O’Donnell, [04:07]
  • Sampson’s story highlights how women have historically stepped beyond imposed limitations for causes they believed in, often without recognition or reward.

• The Glaring Gap in History Education:

  • Women appear in fewer than 15% of all U.S. history taught, and women of color even less.
    • “The stories of women of color are even less well represented.”
      —Mary Louise Kelly, [05:54]

• Educational and Social Pioneer Mary McLeod Bethune:

  • Born to formerly enslaved parents, became a key educator and civil rights advocate, founded Bethune-Cookman College, and was instrumental to FDR’s Black Cabinet.
    • “She becomes the leader of FDR's black cabinet. Mary McLeod Bethune is the reason that women and black women could serve in. In the US Armed forces.”
      —Nora O’Donnell, [07:04]

• Hope for the Next Generation:

  • O’Donnell sees change in her daughters’ generation, noting a decline in “self-limiting doubts” and greater openness to what women can achieve.
    • “One of the many things that gives me great hope is they don’t have the same self-limiting doubts that I think my generation has… Those doubts… don't exist to the degree they did in my generation.”
      —Nora O’Donnell, [08:21]

Notable Quotes

• "How many women would take a bullet for a country in which they do not have the right to vote?"
  —Mary Louise Kelly, [05:46]

• "Here's to the founding fathers and mothers."
  —Mary Louise Kelly, [09:17]

---

Section 2: Sisterhood, Power, and Activism Across Generations

Featured Book: Rise, Girl, Rise by Gloria Steinem and Leymah Gbowee

Conversation led by Indira Lakshmanan

[10:04–21:20]

Key Insights & Discussion Points

• Collaborative Origins & Childhood Influences:

  • Gloria Steinem recounts seeing class and gender inequities while traveling the U.S. as a child; women did work without recognition, boys went to school.
    • “It was the woman who was in the house trailer cooking for everybody. It was the sons who got to go to school…. Little kids are very sensitive to inequalities.”
      —Gloria Steinem, [12:01]
  • Leymah Gbowee describes a joyful Liberian childhood interrupted by civil war. The contrast between peace and the outbreak of violence and injustice prompted her lifelong activism.
    • “The life that I had come to value and appreciate was now turning into a big lie.”
      —Leymah Gbowee, [12:54]

• Building a Movement for Change:

  • Gbowee and other Liberian women united women across faiths and differences to demand peace during the war.
    • “It wasn’t about socio ideology or political or ethnicity. It became about all of us feeling the brunt of the war. And we recognize that once we had a united voice, we could change things.”
      —Leymah Gbowee, [13:43]

• Importance of Storytelling and Visual Representation:

  • The choice of a picture book format is intentional; both authors emphasize the power of images and simple language to shape perceptions for very young children.
    • “We absorb our idea of truth more from pictures and from the people around us than we do from words…”
      —Gloria Steinem, [16:28]
    • Gbowee adds: “We need to start younger. But also… it’s time for us to see a lot of good, colorfully bringing all of us back to our childhood, to those moments when we didn’t have biases.”
      —Leymah Gbowee, [16:54]

• Book Readings—Memorable Passages:

  • Steinem reads:
    “We met at a kitchen table filled with women who, like us, had a vision to build a new future for the girls of today who will be the women of tomorrow… Together we speak. Together we reach. Together we build. We choose, we rise, we endure, we hope, we fight. We trust. We lift ourselves and one another.”
    —Gloria Steinem, [14:42]
  • Gbowee reads:
    “And now the youngest among us are taking up the sisterhood, the togetherhood. They are ready to reach, ready to rise, ready to revolutionize, high above the clouds of doubt, over the tops of disharmony, past the non believers who tell us, no, you can’t.”
    —Leymah Gbowee, [15:35]

• Universal Message—for All Children:

  • The authors affirm Rise, Girl, Rise is for all children, regardless of gender.
    • “It's actually written for all human beings, when you come right down to it.”
      —Gloria Steinem, [17:39]

• Reflections on Progress and Hope:

  • Steinem: Imagination for equality has advanced and is the “first step” to real change, though political representation lags.
    • “We’re improving, but we have a long and heartful and full of love way to go.”
      —Gloria Steinem, [19:47]
  • Gbowee: Even as challenges remain, openness and honest public discourse—especially about previously taboo topics—signal meaningful progress.
    • “I think we’ve made some strides because some of the things that no one used to talk about before… today is a public policy debate. So I feel like we’re making strides and we will not stop.”
      —Leymah Gbowee, [20:34]

Notable Quotes

• “No matter how old you are, you can still rise to the occasion. You can still be a revolutionary. You can still be a part of the togetherhood.”
  —Leymah Gbowee, [16:54]

• “It’s time for us to look at the heart and to look at the humanness of each other.”
  —Leymah Gbowee, [19:12]

---

Timestamps of Important Segments

• [01:24] – Mary Katherine Goddard & Declaration of Independence
• [04:05] – Deborah Sampson, Revolutionary War Woman Soldier
• [06:26] – Mary McLeod Bethune and Representation in History
• [07:56] – Generational Shifts in Gender Expectations
• [10:04] – Introduction to Rise, Girl, Rise
• [11:33] – Steinem’s Childhood, Gender Equity
• [12:54] – Gbowee’s Childhood, War, and Women’s Activism
• [14:42] – Steinem’s Reading from Rise, Girl, Rise
• [15:35] – Gbowee’s Reading from Rise, Girl, Rise
• [16:28] – Picture Books as a Universal Medium
• [19:47] – Steinem and Gbowee Reflect on Progress

---

Memorable Moments

• Steinem and Gbowee’s mutual support and warmth, referring to themselves as “sister friends” [10:21]
• The recognition that both progress and struggle coexist: “Imagination is the first step towards changing reality.” —Gloria Steinem, [19:47]
• Gbowee’s optimism and determination: “If I think anything less, I won’t be able to get out of bed tomorrow.” [20:34]

---

Episode Tone & Takeaways

The episode blends historical revelation with forward-looking optimism, using personal stories to connect past and present struggles for gender equality. Across generations and continents, these authors model how mutual support and courageous storytelling create momentum for lasting change—reminding listeners that history is still being made, and everyone has a role to play.

Transcript

[Andrew Limbong]

Hey, it's NPR's Book of the Day. I'm Andrew Limbong. This past Sunday was International Women's Day. Now maybe you only remembered that because of a reminder on your Google calendar or you saw a post on social media or maybe you didn't remember until now. But the day has its history in radicalism, in politics, in really sticking your neck out and fighting for something. So today we've got two books that embody that spirit. In a bit, two major feminists working today talk about their book trying to inspire the next generation. But first, journalist Nora o' Donnell's new book is titled we the the Hidden Heroes who Shaped America. It's a collection of stories of women you probably have never heard about, even if they directly contributed to our lives. Today she talks to NPR's Mary Louise Kelly after the break.

[Commercial Announcer]

This message comes from Jerry. Many people are overpaying on car insurance. Why? Switching providers can be a pain. Jerry helps make the process painless. Jerry is the only app that compares rates from over 50 insurers in minutes and helps you switch fast with no spam calls or hidden fees. Drivers who save with Jerry could save over $1,300 a year before you renew your car insurance policy. Download the Jerry app or head to Jerry AI NPR.

[Mary Louise Kelly]

Nearly 250 years ago, July 4, 1776, dozens of delegates got together and signed the Declaration of Independence. Now signing was a huge risk. Having your name on that founding document of the United States was treason, even if you're just the guy who printed the document. And actually the guy who printed the document wasn't a guy. She was a woman. Mary Catherine Goddard, at the very bottom of one of the official versions of the Declaration, just under John Hanco and all the other male signees is Goddard's name. She is one of the women profiled in a new book by CBS News senior correspondent Nora o'. Donnell. The book is we the Women the Hidden Heroes who Shaped America. Nora's dropped by the studio to tell us about it. Hi there. Welcome.

[Nora O'Donnell]

Thank you for having me. Mary Louise.

[Indira Lakshmanan]

So start there.

[Mary Louise Kelly]

We're talking the 18th century. We are talking a moment when a lot of women could not read, could not write. How did Goddard land the gig of printing the Declaration of Independence?

[Nora O'Donnell]

It's an incredible story and one I can't believe we aren't all taught in school. The Declaration of Independence, the founding document,

[Mary Louise Kelly]

and we know a lot of the guys names on it of Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, you know that phrase put

[Nora O'Donnell]

your John Hancock here, right? And it turns out that the first official printing of the Declaration of Independence was done by a woman, Mary Catherine Goddard. Was why? Because she owned the publishing and printing shop in Baltimore where the Continental Congress had moved from Philadelphia when the British troops were moving in on Philadelphia. And they say, well, we need a copy that has all of the 56 mail signatories on it. We need it done in two weeks. We need it printed out perfectly. She gets it done.

[Mary Louise Kelly]

She gets it done.

[Nora O'Donnell]

But what's, I think, really interesting about this story is that she was also a publisher of a paper there where she had her name as M.K. goddard. On the Declaration of Independence, she puts her name as Mary Katherine Goddard. She wanted to be remembered. She wanted to be part of this founding document. And as you point out, it was dangerous and treasonous to put your name on that document. And I think the larger story is, why don't we celebrate and know the stories of these incredibly important women in American history?

[Mary Louise Kelly]

So I want to ask about another name, another story. This is again back Revolutionary War Deborah Sampson, who, to sum up in a nutshell, Deborah Sampson disguises herself as a man, joins the army, goes off to fight the Brits, gets shot at least twice during the Revolutionary War.

[Indira Lakshmanan]

What's her story?

[Nora O'Donnell]

I mean, think about this. Women had no rights at this time. Deborah Sampson disguises herself as a man to fight in the Continental army, and it turns out she's probably the first woman in America to take a bullet for her country. And I think the point is, is that women have long been revolutionaries, women have long been patriots fighting for their country and never gotten the recognition or the pension that they deserve. She actually died with a musket ball lodged inside her. She, after serving, she then went on the speaking circuit in order to get her pension, and, you know, was even supported by Paul Revere in that effort. But just think about them. There should be a movie about Deborah Sampson. But I think, as I tell in the book, there are so many other examples of women who served who didn't get the recognition that they deserve.

[Mary Louise Kelly]

Okay, go back. I'm just obsessed with Deborah Sampson. Is there. Do we know, is there anything in the archives, in the historical record why she thought this was a good idea or how she got away with it for as long as she did?

[Nora O'Donnell]

Well, as I write in the book, Deborah Sampson had a difficult upbringing, and so I think she probably was one. Both looking for a job because it paid well to serve, and also because she was a patriot. She was also a tall woman. She was five. And as described at the Time, she had, quote, unquote, masculine features, so it was easy for her to disguise herself as a soldier. And she was pretty good at it, you know, and she almost died because she didn't want to be discovered. She wanted to have that job. And I think that's what's so relatable, too. How many women want to do a job that may only be reserved traditionally for men?

[Mary Louise Kelly]

Or how many women would take a bullet for a country in which they do not have the right to vote?

[Nora O'Donnell]

Yes, and it turns out that many women throughout history did exactly just that.

[Mary Louise Kelly]

I'm thinking Deborah Sampson might have something to say to the current leadership of the Pentagon about their views on women in combat. But moving on. In the book, you cite a statistic that I found sobering. This is according to the National Women's History Museum, which found that women are featured in less than 15% of all history taught in the United States. The stories of women of color are even less well represented. Tell me about Mary McLeod Bethune.

[Nora O'Donnell]

Mary McLeod Bethune. I just got the chills even saying her name. She's one of my heroes. Mary McLeod Bethune was born to enslaved parents. She was actually born right after the Emancipation Proclamation, okay? And as a little girl, she went up to play with a white girl that lived on the property and picked up a book. And the little white girl said to her, you can't read. Put that down. And Mary McLeod Bethune said, It just stuck with her. And then here she became one of the great educators of her era, founded the Bethune Cookman College, which still exists today. It was the first institution of higher education for black students in Florida.

[Mary Louise Kelly]

In Florida, okay.

[Nora O'Donnell]

But she becomes one of Eleanor Roosevelt's best friends. She becomes the leader of FDR's black cabinet. Mary McLeod Bethune is the reason that women and black women could serve in. In the US Armed forces. And she did radio addresses at the time so you can hear her great big booming voice. She sounds like a female version of FDR. Democracy is, for me and for 12 million black Americans, a goal toward which

[Gloria Steinem]

our nation is marching.

[Leymah Gbowee]

It is a dream.

[Mary Louise Kelly]

You have two daughters, am I right?

[Nora O'Donnell]

I do.

[Mary Louise Kelly]

What kind of conversations do you have with them about what is possible for women today, about gender equity or lack thereof, because it's still real in this country. As you know.

[Nora O'Donnell]

You know, women crashed through the educational glass ceiling more than 30 years ago now. Also, they're the majority of medical school graduates, law school graduates. So education is no longer the issue. It's gaining power. And when I Look at my daughters. One of the many things that gives me great hope is they don't have the same self limiting doubts that I think my generation has.

[Mary Louise Kelly]

What do you mean?

[Nora O'Donnell]

I think that as a young girl, so many people still, and I'm 52, told us that there were certain careers open to us or certain behaviors that were appropriate for us. Certainly not my parents, but I mean the culture and companies and others were in institutions where we went to school. Those doubts, whether self limiting or imposed by others to don't exist to the degree they did in my generation. And so I'm hopeful they just charge ahead. Younger women charge ahead. I work with a lot of young women. They run circles around every one. And so that gives me great hope that the equality that's talked about in the Declaration of Independence, that that younger generation will push through on that front, not only for women's rights, but minority rights and more to live up to the promises that the founding fathers and mothers put in that document.

[Mary Louise Kelly]

Here's to the founding fathers and mothers. Nora, thank you.

[Nora O'Donnell]

Thank you very much.

[Mary Louise Kelly]

Nora o', Donnell, senior correspondent at CBS News and author of the new book we the Women.

[Commercial Announcer]

This message comes from Granger. Granger knows that as an H Vac technician, you and your digital multimeter are in high demand. So when a noisy office H vac turns out to be a failing blower motor, you don't break a sweat. With Grainger's easy to use website and product information, you can select the product you need to keep everything humming right along. Call 1-800-GRAINGER Click grainger.com or just stop by Grainger for the ones who get it done.

[Andrew Limbong]

Gloria Steinem and Leymah Bowie come from vastly different backgrounds. For instance, one was born in Ohio, the other in central Liberia. But for all of their differences, they're friends and Cobb comrades. In a shared mission, they wrote a picture book together titled Rise Girl, Rise. Here's Here and now's Indira Lakshmanan.

[Indira Lakshmanan]

A joyful new children's picture book is a collaboration between two world famous women. Gloria Steinem is an icon of American feminism, best known for her activism for women's liberation and reproductive freedom. And as a co founder of Ms. Magazine. Lema Bowie bravely campaigned to end Liberia's civil war and was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. Rise, Girl, Rise takes us to both women's childhoods separated by thousands of miles and almost four decades. They both grew up seeing girls and women being treated unequally. And they each found their purpose and power to campaign for a better World. The two women call each other sister friends, and their book calls on girls and women to find our own sister friends to support us as we strive for gender equality and justice. Joining me now to talk about Rise Girl, Rise are Gloria Steinem and Lemah Bowie. Welcome to you both.

[Gloria Steinem]

Thank you so much.

[Leymah Gbowee]

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Gloria.

[Indira Lakshmanan]

We learn in this book that as a child you traveled the country with your father, who sold antiques at roadside auctions. On your travels, you write that you saw the unfairness that women and girls face. Tell us what it was that you saw and how those early years shaped you.

[Gloria Steinem]

We were usually staying in trailer camps along the way, which are democratic in the sense that everyone can park there, but not so democratic because they're divided by education or by race. And the kids were always trying to overcome that, were always playing together. And that was a symbol to me of what should be as grownups.

[Indira Lakshmanan]

What was it that pointed out for you the gender inequity?

[Gloria Steinem]

Well, it was very simple. Often, I mean, it was the woman who was in the house trailer cooking for everybody. It was the sons who got to go to school. It was the male income that was most likely to be supporting the group. You know, little kids are very sensitive to inequalities.

[Indira Lakshmanan]

Layma, you write about Liberia, a really lush land, a childhood full of joy. You paint us a really idyllic picture of your village, your grandmother's stories and singing, and then that's all interrupted by the first Liberian civil war. Tell us about how that shaped your life and how you witnessed injustices against women and girls that were different from how the war affected men and boys.

[Leymah Gbowee]

Well, we grew up in a very close knit community. And so when the war erupted and there were all these conversations about divisions and ethnicity and women and girls were being mistreated, raped, abused. This is not what I grew up knowing. And I think that was one of the drive for me going into activism. My anger, my confusion was that the life that I had come to value and appreciate was now turning into a big lie.

[Indira Lakshmanan]

And you were just a teenager when the civil war broke out. And then soon after, you became a young mother. Remind listeners of your work bringing Christian and Muslim women together as peacemakers.

[Leymah Gbowee]

What we had seen in all of the years of the war where the men with the guns were the ones who were speaking. So we started this movement first trying to encourage community women to awake for peace, mobilizing women from the churches and the mosques and the market stall. It wasn't about socio ideology or political or Ethnicity. It became about all of us feeling the brunt of the war. And we recognize that once we had a united voice, we could change things.

[Indira Lakshmanan]

Well, this book is such a colorful journey. The illustrations are absolutely beautiful. They're by an artist called Ka Yang Ni. They almost look like little collages in a rainbow of colors. To give listeners a taste of what the sound of this book is like, I'd like to ask you each to read a couple pages from the book. Gloria, you first, please.

[Gloria Steinem]

Well, there is a wonderful painting of diverse women sitting at a kitchen table. And the text says, we met at a kitchen table filled with women who, like us, had a vision to build a new future for the girls of today who will be the women of tomorrow. The bright sister friends now gathered at this place with their eyes on the same horizon. Then, in wonderful colorful letters, it says, together we speak. Together we reach. Together we build. We choose, we rise, we endure, we hope, we fight. We trust. We lift ourselves and one another. It's the perfect blend of nouns and verbs, because nouns are people and verbs are action.

[Indira Lakshmanan]

Lama, could we ask you to read two pages as well?

[Leymah Gbowee]

Okay. And my page is yellow. And there are many colors of people mobilizing, organizing, writing, posters. But this is the text. And now the youngest among us are taking up the sisterhood, the togetherhood. They are ready to reach, ready to rise, ready to revolutionize, high above the clouds of doubt, over the tops of disharmony, past the non believers who tell us, no, you can't.

[Indira Lakshmanan]

I love these pages, especially because we see young girls, some with hijab, some looking western, some looking Eastern. I have to ask, why did you decide on a picture book rather than a book aimed at middle schoolers or young adults?

[Gloria Steinem]

You know, we absorb our idea of truth more from pictures and from the people around us than we do from words, since we only are able to read words a little bit later in life. So I think it's important that we continue the more universal tradition of pictures.

[Indira Lakshmanan]

Layma, what was your thinking? Do we need to start younger to get this message across before kids are even in school?

[Leymah Gbowee]

Definitely, we need to start younger. But also, we've heard a lot and we are seeing a lot of evil around us. It's time for us to see a lot of good, colorfully bringing all of us back to our childhood, to those moments when we didn't have biases, to those moments when racism wasn't overpowering us, to this moment when we weren't being taught. Our whole world is us versus them, no matter how old you are, you can still rise to the occasion. You can still be a revolutionary. You can still be a part of the togetherhood.

[Indira Lakshmanan]

Gloria, do you feel this book was written for girls, or did you also write it for boys?

[Gloria Steinem]

It's actually written for all human beings, when you come right down to it. I mean, boys and girls from every part of the world, whether or not we're accustomed to picture books or to all type books. I think you can appreciate this book.

[Indira Lakshmanan]

Well, Gloria, I. I grew up on Free to Be youe and Me, that funny and empowering hot pink children's book and album of the 70s whose message was that girls like me were equal to little boys. You consulted on that project, and I remember very clearly the part of the book that has a boy baby and a girl baby talking to each other. And they're not even aware that one is a boy and one is a girl. And it's just about their equality as humans. And I wonder whether it's. In writing this, did you have memories of having contributed to what, at least in this country, was a really iconic children's book so many years ago?

[Gloria Steinem]

Yes. I mean, Free to Be was my first experience of how unifying a book could be, a story could be, if you just removed the barriers of words that not everybody knows or photographs that not everybody identifies with, that a book can be a globe, a unified globe.

[Indira Lakshmanan]

Layma, I want to ask you. The overall message of this book is about how joining together makes us more powerful. How important do you feel it is to get that message out to girls and women today?

[Leymah Gbowee]

It's very important for the times that we live in. I think it's also sending a message that in the world that we live in, we should no longer look at race or color or creed. It's time for us to look at the heart and to look at the humanness of each other.

[Indira Lakshmanan]

Layma, you've been working for peace for more than 20 years. Gloria, you've been an activist for women's rights for well over half a century. I want to ask you both, do you think conditions for women and children have improved since you each started working in this space?

[Gloria Steinem]

Our imaginations have improved, and imagination is the first step towards changing reality. Sometimes our realities have changed. There is more idea that women have the right to make our own decisions about our lives, our education, our reproduction. If we look at who are the chiefs of state, we may feel a bit less hopeful, including in the United States, because we have never managed to represent. Represent the female half of this country. Which is supposed to be a democracy. So I would say we're improving, but we have a long and heartful and full of love. Way to go.

[Indira Lakshmanan]

Layma. What do you think?

[Leymah Gbowee]

I'm an internal optimist because if I think anything less, I won't be able to get out of my bed tomorrow. From the continent perspective, I'll tell you that I think we've made some strides because some of the things that no one used to talk about before, specifically conversations around female genital mutilation used to be hush hush. Today is a public policy debate. So I feel like we're making strides and we will not stop.

[Indira Lakshmanan]

That's Liberian Nobel Peace Prize winner Leymah Bowie and American political and feminist activist Gloria Steinem. Their new picture book for children is Rise Girl, Rise Our Sister Friend Journey Together for All. Thank you both so much for joining us.

[Mary Louise Kelly]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Andrew Limbong]

That's it for this week on NPR's Book of the Day. If you want more, you can sign up for our newsletter, npr.org newsletter books I'm Andrew Limbong. The podcast is produced by Chloe Weiner and Ivy Buck and edited by Megan Sullivan. Our founding editor is Petra Meyer. The show elements for this week were produced and edited by Christopher Intagliata, Janaki Mehta, Manuel Lopez Restepo, Emiko Tamagawa, Todd Mundt, Melissa Gray, Ryan Benk, Gabriel Donatov, Catherine Fink and Courtney Dorning. Yolanda Sanguini is our executive producer. Thanks for listening.

[Commercial Announcer]

This message comes from Jerry Noticing your car insurance rate creep up even without tickets or claims you're not alone. That's why there's Jerry. Jerry handles the legwork by comparing quotes side by side from over 50 top insurers so you can confidently hit buy. No spam calls, no hidden fees. Jerry even tracks rates and alerts you when it's best to shop. Drivers who save with Jerry could save over $1,300 a year. Don't overpay. Download the Jerry app or visit Jerry AI, NPR today this message comes from Capital One Commercial Bank. Access comprehensive solutions from a top commercial bank that prioritizes your needs today and goals for tomorrow. Learn [e-mail] Commercial Member FDIC support for this podcast and the following message come from Alexa. Say hello to the all new Alexa. Chat naturally about anything and watch your to do list disappear. Planning Date Night 1 conversation handles everything from dinner reservations to entertainment. Alexa learns your style, anticipates what's next, and puts thousands of services at your fingertips. Experience AI, that's all yours and now Alexa is free with prime on your Amazon devices like echo and Fire TV. Amazon.com Alexa.