Episode Five: Night Watchers

Summary

Obscurum – Episode Five: Night Watchers

Release Date: February 25, 2025

Introduction

In Episode Five of Obscurum's first season, titled "Night Watchers," host Gabe Lenners delves deeper into the enigmatic wave of unexplained drone sightings that have unsettled rural America since 2019. This episode unravels new testimonies, investigative breakthroughs, and the intertwining of local legends with modern technology, bringing listeners closer to the truth behind these mysterious aerial phenomena.

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Recap of Previous Events

Gabe opens the episode by revisiting the events from the last installment:

[02:58] Kenny: "Last time on Obscurum Invasion of the Drones it was a routine medical call out east when a mission to save a life almost ended in disaster and."

This sets the stage for new developments as Kenny continues his investigation into the drone sightings.

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Kenny’s Persistent Pursuit

Kenny narrates his relentless quest to uncover the truth behind the drones:

[03:09] Kyle Tequila: "The drone just went right underneath us."

[03:15] Rod: "Were these things drones? He said."

Despite initial skepticism, Kenny remains determined:

[03:38] Kenny: "Do you feel as though this could be some type of government agency or foreign power controlling these drones?"

His persistence leads him to follow leads and connect with others who have witnessed similar phenomena.

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Encounter with Chris and Unsettling Sightings

Kenny recounts a pivotal encounter with Chris, a local farmer who experienced multiple drone sightings:

[05:44] Chris: "As soon as I opened the door and stepped outside, it just... it took off. It was unreal."

Chris describes seeing large, egg-shaped drones with infrared cameras that seemed to respond to his actions, specifically his attempts to manage a fire:

[06:44] Chris: "I think it picked up the heat and it was cold again."

Kenny records Chris’s frustration with law enforcement's dismissive stance:

[07:37] Chris: "I wanted to knock it down... Just leave them be."

This segment highlights the fear and confusion gripping the community, as ordinary citizens grapple with extraordinary occurrences.

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Rod’s Investigative Breakthroughs

Rod, an avid drone enthusiast and member of Kenny’s group, shares his findings:

[09:09] Rod: "That's where my setup is and that's where I've had the best luck, you know, every time I go out there."

Rod’s research leads him to a supposedly sacred ancient site with unusual land formations:

[09:42] Rod: "To me it's like they showed up in big numbers, but they've been here in the past."

Upon visiting the site, Rod and Kenny discover significant temperature anomalies and ancient pictographs of owls, suggesting a mysterious connection between the land's history and the current drone activity:

[11:32] Rod: "They don't show up on the camera."

The encounter culminates in a frightening sighting of a dark shadow swooping overhead, intensifying the mystery:

[11:50] Rod: "Whatever that black shadow was was definitely in a negative way."

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Insights from Jeff Wessels on Commercial Drones

Seeking expert opinions, Kenny interviews Jeff Wessels, a certified professional drone operator:

[18:04] Kyle Tequila: "We fly DJI Phantom 4s and look around, take videos, take pictures..."

Jeff explains the legitimate uses of drones in agriculture but casts doubt on the possibility of unauthorized drone operations responsible for the sightings:

[21:25] Kyle Tequila: "What I don't think anybody will ever know is what they're doing. It was a year ago, big old snow storm..."

His insights help Kenny narrow down the possibilities, suggesting that the drones involved in the mysterious sightings likely lack legitimate agricultural purposes.

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The Matthew Spencer Enigma

Kenny uncovers cryptic articles attributing the drone sightings to a man named Matthew Spencer:

[22:55] Kenny: "A few days later, a second article was published... An editor's note stated that a man whom I began referring to as Matthew Spencer was taking responsibility for the nighttime drone sightings."

The unclear motivations and poor journalistic quality of these articles deepen the mystery, compelling Kenny to seek out Spencer for answers.

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Technological and Environmental Considerations

Kenny explores the technical aspects and environmental factors that could influence drone activity. Discussions with Michael Ott from Rantizo reveal the complexities of drone operations, including regulatory constraints:

[19:57] Kyle Tequila: "We use drones to spray for agriculture and sanitization... So somebody has got permission from the FAA to do this or they have very sophisticated ways to override the FAA rules that are in here."

Kenny connects these insights to the broader pattern of drone sightings, contemplating the possibility of highly unauthorized and technologically advanced drone fleets.

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Conclusion and Cliffhanger

As the episode draws to a close, Kenny reflects on the fragmented pieces of the puzzle:

[23:17] Kenny: "If you have any information surrounding the events detailed in this podcast or have your own similar account, please visit our [e-mail] and share your story."

The episode ends with an invitation for listeners to engage and contribute, promising that the next installment will delve further into the enigmatic presence of Matthew Spencer and uncover more secrets surrounding the night watchers.

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Production Credits

"Obscurum: Night Watchers" is produced by Imagine and Leonard's Entertainment for iHeartMedia. Written, hosted, and produced by Gabe Lenners, with executive producers Ron Howard, Brian Grazer, Karl Welker, Nathan Cloke, Nikki Etour, and others. Special thanks to contributors and the production team ensure a seamless and immersive investigative experience.

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Listen to Episode Five: Night Watchers

Obscurum – Invasion of the Drones continues to unravel the chilling truths behind the mysterious aerial phenomena over the Midwest. Tune in to Episode Five: "Night Watchers" on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you enjoy your favorite podcasts.

Transcript

[Kyle Tequila]

My name is Kyle Tequila, host of the shocking new true crime podcast, Crook County. I got recruited into the mob when I was 17 years old. People are dying. Is he doing this every night? Kenny was a Chicago firefighter who lived a secret double life as a mafia hitman. I had a wife and I had two children. Nobody knew anything.

[Kenny]

He was a fricking crazy man.

[Kyle Tequila]

He was my father, and I had no idea about any of this. Until now. Crook county is available now. Listen for free on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your pod.

[Maria Tremarke]

Welcome to the Criminalia podcast.

[Kyle Tequila]

I'm Maria Tremarke.

[Maria Tremarke]

And I'm Holly Fry.

[Kenny]

Together we invite you into the dark and winding corridors of historical true crime. Each season we explore a new theme. From poisoners to art thieves, we uncover the secrets of history's most interesting figures.

[Maria Tremarke]

From legal injustices to body snatching. And tune in at the end of.

[Kenny]

Each episode as we indulge in cocktails.

[Maria Tremarke]

And mocktails inspired by each story. Listen to criminalia on the iHeartRadio app.

[Kenny]

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Bob Pittman]

Hi, I'm Bob Pittman, chairman and CEO of iHeartMedia. I'm excited to introduce a brand new season of my podcast, Math and Stories from the Frontiers of Marketing. I'm having conversations with some folks across a wide range of industries to hear how they reach the top of their fields and the lessons they learned along the way that everyone can use. I'll be joined by innovative leaders like chairman and CEO of Elf Beauty, Tarang Amin, legendary singer, songwriter and philanthropist Jewel.

[Maria Tremarke]

Being a rock star is very fun, but helping people is way more fun.

[Bob Pittman]

And Damian Maldonado, CEO of American Financing.

[Kyle Tequila]

I figured out the formula. I just have to work hard, then that's magic.

[Bob Pittman]

Join me as we uncover innovations in data and analytics, the math, and the ever important creative spark, the magic. Listen to math and magic on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Maria Tremarke]

I'm Mary Kay McBrayer, host of the podcast the Greatest True Crime Stories Ever Told. This season explores women from the 19th century to now. Women who were murderers and scammers, but also women who were photojournalists, lawyers, writers, and more. This podcast tells more than just the brutal, gory details of horrific acts. I delve into the good, the bad, the difficult, and all the nuance I can find because these are the stories that we need to know to understand the intersection of society and justice and the fascinating workings of the human psyche. Join me every week as I tell some of the most enthralling true crime stories about women who are not just victims, but heroes or villains, or often somewhere in between. Listen to the greatest true crime stories ever told on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Kenny]

Last time on Obscurum Invasion of the Drones it was a routine medical call out east when a mission to save a life almost ended in disaster and.

[Kyle Tequila]

The drone just went right underneath us.

[Rod]

He tried to count the number of.

[Kenny]

Objects with the same light pattern.

[Rod]

Were these things drones? He said.

[Kyle Tequila]

Well, I couldn't tell for sure, and.

[Bob Pittman]

That location is probably about 10 miles.

[Kenny]

East of Denver International Airport. Do you feel as though this could be some type of government agency or foreign power controlling these drones?

[Kyle Tequila]

I can't answer that.

[Kenny]

Two weeks had passed since the task force meeting. In brush, conversations about the mysterious aircraft continued to play out on the local news. Reporters captured grainy videos of the strange lights, but it was impossible to make any conclusions. I was determined to figure out if any of the aircraft were taking off and landing nearby. One night I chased a larger drone like object in my dad's pickup for 20 miles. That big white one looks like it's coming closer. They are all over. There's another one right directly above me to my left. It was shaped like an egg and had a spherical white light. Even as I'd take back roads to gain ground, it was always ahead of me. I plotted my next move and began texting with Chris, who I'd met after his wife, Sarah, spotted a large aircraft hovering outside the family's farmhouse. There was an unsettling development he wanted to share with me, and I could tell it was important that we get together in person. Chapter 9 Dark Shadows 1 of the first people to ever spot these aircrafts is driving about 40ft in front of me. The dust kicked up off the tires of Chris's pickup hauling down a dirt road in Phillips County, Colorado. I was closely behind him. Chris has a tall, athletic build and chiseled jawline. He had a ball cap on. You could tell he probably played sports back in the day. We walked over to a clearing near the edge of a field where he began telling me about another encounter.

[Chris]

I burned my trash and after we'd opened all our Christmas presents. So I just have a bunch of wrapping paper and boxes and there's some snow on the ground so I just took it out to trash burl and lit it and had quite the fire going and it was pretty late at night again and I went up into our office, which is, like, in the second story. I was just getting ready to head down for the night, and I turned the lights off, and I realized that there were lights on outside. It looked almost like one of our yard lights. I could see it glowing off the tin of our shop. So I went outside the garage, and as soon as I opened the garage door, There was a white, like, infrared camera light. I mean, you could just see the perfect circle of bulbs around a camera mounted on the bottom of a drone. That was the light I was seeing from in the house. As soon as I opened the door and stepped outside, it just. It took off. It was unreal.

[Kenny]

Why do you think the drone showed up when the trash can was lit with fire?

[Chris]

I think it. I think it picked up the heat and it was cold again. So I'm sure it showed up from a long ways away. But that happened. That happened two different times. Once in. In the daylight, too, where I had pretty good fire going. And within 15 minutes, there was a drone flying by. Didn't hover like the first one did that night, but it flew right by to get a look at what. What was going on. It was probably at least 8ft across. It was. I mean, it. It was intimidating. It gave you goosebumps. And you looked at it, it's like, wow. Didn't know anything like that was. Even. Even existed that could hover like that and then take off at that kind of speed. And when it was hovering, it was totally silent until I stepped out and it took off, and then it was just like. Sounded like a motor running.

[Kenny]

I couldn't wrap my mind around why a drone would hover above a small fire.

[Chris]

I wanted to knock it down. All the sheriff's department kept saying was, do not shoot. Do not try to follow them. Just leave. Just leave them be. But I wanted to shoot it down. I don't like anybody being that close to my house without me knowing, Let alone something that quiet. With a camera within 50ft of our house, I really wanted to knock it down Just to see who would come pick it up.

[Kenny]

Would anybody pick it up and risk being seen? If Chris had experienced this, there could be others. Maybe his neighbors had reported something similar to law enforcement. I called Phillips county sheriff Thomas Elliot to see if we could visit. He promptly cut me off mid sentence and informed me that I needed to fill out a public records request before he'd talk. It seemed like I'd have to find details in a police report. Confused on where to turn, I spent many hours going down the Rabbit hole of comments on the social media group Rod Miller usually posted to hoping to find a tip that may lead to a breakthrough. One day I woke up to a flurry of notifications. Rod told me that he locked in on one specific region where a high number of unexplained aircraft were still being seen. What puzzled him even more was that these sightings resembled orbs or glowing balls of light distinctly different from the drone like objects initially reported.

[Rod]

I set up off about a mile or two off that site and almost 99 of all my really good videos of the orbs, they come up off the ground and they come off, up off that site. That's where my setup is and that's where I've had the best luck, you know, every time I go out there.

[Kenny]

Based on obscure land formations he located with satellites, he was convinced there was a sacred ancient site near the area of high activity.

[Rod]

To me it's like they showed up in big numbers, but they've been here in the past.

[Kenny]

I didn't know where this was going, but I was highly skeptical then. Intrigued, Rod wanted to explore the canyons and pasture during the daylight to see if any remnants were there.

[Rod]

The landowner was a definite no. Through other family members of his, I ended up finding the homestead papers of his land. One of, one of my friends, she helped me get there. Anyways, long story short, we found the homestead papers and then traded him, gave him the homestead papers for his land and then we got permission to go onto the land to look at the site. When I got to the site, the strange thing about this is the variance in the temperature there. The, the farmer, like I said he was, he didn't want nothing to do with this site. He told me that if one of his cows was having a calf there and was having in trouble that it would be on its own. It was a. He just didn't had a bad feeling about the site and didn't want no part of it. When we got there, he showed me the temperature gauge on his pickup and when we got pulled up to the site that at that site it was 40 degrees hotter than where we had stopped. You know, there's like a 40 degree difference. I've, I've looked through binocular since then. When it's snowing, it'll be snowing completely around that site, but it doesn't snow right there at that site. Very weird. Of course the landowner, he, he wouldn't get out of his pickup because he just. That sight spooked him and. But his wife was Very curious about it. She went with me and there were some pictographs, different carvings on a bluff there. And we were looking over those. There were a total of seven owls. And there were owls that I had never truly seen before. They were kind of a brown mop with white modded color to them. But I just. I mean, they look like real living owls. Well, they let her, the landowner's wife, get up pretty close, and she took pictures, trying to take pictures of them. And she come running over to me. She goes, rod, they. They don't show up on the camera. As we was looking at some pictographs, a dark shadow swooped down over us, which her husband was in the pickup, but it scared him for us. And she, of course, screamed. And it was kind of this cold draft. It's hard to explain. We just came right over, swooped over us. Cattle took off running. And he told us to get in a pickup. And he wouldn't let me look anymore. And of course, I'll never get back on there again. Probably. Whatever that black shadow was was definitely in a negative way. You know, it wasn't good.

[Kenny]

Rod was eccentric. I had no reason to believe that he wouldn't be truthful. Could there possibly be a connection between the land and sky? Members in Rod's drone hunting group were now taking their investigative conversations to a secret messenger chain. They had to be aware of his personal research. It takes one guy out there to say, who's that?

[Kyle Tequila]

Kyle, who thinks he can just get on a microphone on a podcast and start publicizing this. From I heart podcasts and Tenderfoot TV comes a new true crime podcast, Crook County. I got recruited into the mob when I was 17 years old. Meet Kenny, an enforcer for the legendary Chicago outfit. And that was my mission, to snuff the life out of this guy. He lived a secret double life as a firefighter paramedic for the Chicago Fire Department. I had a wife and I had two children. Nobody knew anything. People are dying. Is he doing this every night? Torn between two worlds. I'm covering up murders that these cops are doing.

[Kenny]

He was a freaking crazy man.

[Kyle Tequila]

We don't know who he is, really. He is my father and I had no idea about any of this until now. Welcome to Crook County. Series premiere February 11th. Listen for free on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Maria Tremarke]

There's a type of soil in Mississippi called Yazoo clay. It's thick, burnt orange, and it's got a reputation. It's terrible, terrible dirt.

[Kenny]

Yazoo clay eats everything.

[Maria Tremarke]

So things that get buried there tend to stay buried until they're not. In 2012, construction crews at Mississippi's biggest hospital made a shocking discovery.

[Kyle Tequila]

7,000 bodies out there or more, all.

[Maria Tremarke]

Former patients of the old state asylum.

[Kenny]

And nobody knew they were there.

[Chris]

It was my family's mystery.

[Maria Tremarke]

But in this corner of the south, it's not just the soil that keeps secrets.

[Bob Pittman]

Nobody talks about it.

[Rod]

Nobody has any information.

[Maria Tremarke]

When you peel back the layers of Mississippi's Yazoo clay, nothing's ever as simple as you think.

[Kenny]

The story is much more complicated and nuanced than that.

[Maria Tremarke]

I'm Larison Campbell. Listen to under yazukle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast.

[Kyle Tequila]

I'm Mark Seal.

[Bob Pittman]

And I'm Nathan King. This is Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli.

[Kyle Tequila]

The five families want us to shoot that picture.

[Bob Pittman]

Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli is based on my co host Mark's best selling book of the same title. And on this show we call upon his years of research to help unpack the story behind the Godfather's birth. From start to finish, this is really.

[Chris]

The first interview I've done in bed.

[Bob Pittman]

We sift through innumerable accounts. 35 pages isn't very much, many of them conflicting.

[Kenny]

That's nonsense.

[Bob Pittman]

There were 60 pages and try to get to the truth of what really happened. And they said we're finished, this is over.

[Kyle Tequila]

Not only is not going to work, you gotta get rid of those guys.

[Bob Pittman]

It's just that Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli features new and archival interviews with Francis Ford Coppola, Robert Evans, James Caan, Talia Shire and many others.

[Rod]

Yes, that was a real horse's head.

[Bob Pittman]

Listen and subscribe to Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Bob Pittman, chairman and CEO of iHeartMedia. I'm excited to share my podcast with you. Math and stories from the frontiers of marketing. This week I'm talking to the CEO of Moderna, Stephane Bonsell, about how he led his team through unprecedented times to create, test and distribute a COVID vaccine all in less than a year. It becomes a human decision to decide to throw by the window your business strategy and to do what you think is the right thing for the world. Join me as we uncover innovations in data and analytics, the math and the ever important creative spark, the magic. Listen to math and magic stories from the frontiers of Marketing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Kenny]

Chapter 10, Silent Silhouettes. The realist in me thought that if Rod Miller was seeing large numbers of aircraft again and again over a small, concentrated area, maybe this localized event could be related to agriculture. You did?

[Kyle Tequila]

All right, good. I'll keep you for another year. All right, good deal. I don't want you to do anything different.

[Kenny]

A neighbor who lived close by introduced me to a man named Jeff Wessels. He was one of the few people in the region certified to fly drones professionally. When I walked up to Jeff, he was talking with a waitress and another couple a few tables over. He was wearing a Nebraska Cornhuskers T shirt, blue jeans, and glasses, and reminded me of one of those guys who's never a stranger to anyone. What is your specific background? I know you are licensed to fly drones.

[Kyle Tequila]

We do it for work. We fly DJI Phantom 4s and look around, take videos, take pictures, and then we can show them to the customer and say, here's what we're seeing out in the field. You know, even though we're not selling the information to the customer, we're still being FAA certified UAV pilots so that we don't get in trouble for anything.

[Kenny]

With Jeff's experience as a crop advisor, he'd know the geography of the area and how someone may go about running fleets of drones.

[Kyle Tequila]

There would have to be a lot of automation or there would. It would take a tremendous amount of individuals. Somebody has watch them, obviously, I can guarantee you, because in a commercial aspect, like the ones we fly, they won't go over two miles away from the receiver, or they will turn around and come back. I know they would show up on radar. As big as they are, they would. They would look like a flock of birds, for example, on radar. And FAA takes violation of airspace really seriously. So I promise you, they know. What I don't think anybody will ever know is what they're doing. It was a year ago, big old snow storm. You know, snow was piled up everywhere, and I thought, oh, this will be really fun. I was at the agronomy office, and I thought, well, I'm gonna launch it up in the air and take pictures of all the snow around there. Not thinking about where I was, got it all set up, got ready to go, and it wasn't launched. I go, oh, duh, Jeff. The airport's only a mile away. You're way inside the radius of the airport, so there's no way it will fly. So someone has got permission from the FAA to do this or they have very sophisticated ways to override the FAA rules that are in here.

[Kenny]

Jeff mentioned drones were used for surveys, but there had to be a company that did more. I soon connected with Michael Ott from Rantizo.

[Kyle Tequila]

We use drones to spray for agriculture and sanitization. We can spray pesticides, insecticides, herbicides wherever they're needed in crop fields.

[Kenny]

Growing up in the area, I was used to hearing spray planes at the crack of dawn, but I'd never heard of drones being used for spraying crops. With the drones you use, what are the typical sizes?

[Kyle Tequila]

The drone itself is maybe the size of a card table. That's a good frame of reference for most people. And then we put on a boom that extends out 14ft and gives us a 20 foot swath as it's spraying. There'd be very unusual reasons to be higher than 20ft above the crop. If you're doing an application, can you.

[Kenny]

Charge them wirelessly while they're in the.

[Kyle Tequila]

Air or we have batteries and so when you're doing a job, you'll bring multiple batteries, a charger and a generator with you.

[Kenny]

How close can you get to an airport? Typically before like you get a notification or it lands.

[Kyle Tequila]

If you get that authorization, you can fly much closer. Otherwise a lot of them are no fly zones.

[Kenny]

If the unexplained aircraft could be related to farming, I wondered about climate. January in Nebraska is cold and the ground is frozen. Is there ever a time of year where you wouldn't be flying and putting these on some type of agricultural related field?

[Kyle Tequila]

I'd say it's atypical. I mean, if you're. You don't want to spray something on snow cover, but I think that'd be a foolish thing to do. I cannot imagine that the people that were doing that had a legitimate agricultural purpose.

[Kenny]

Hearing that from an expert helped me come to the same conclusion. With no luck calling additional agencies and companies who fly drones in hopes of getting fresh leads to look into, I monitored cell phone tower video feeds and scoured the web. During that third week of January, I came across a link to a cryptic article. I visited the website and froze. There was a piece by the Sterling Colorado Journal Advocate with a headline that read drone mystery solved. Wichita Group may be responsible. The story centered on a man who wasn't from the area. A few days later, a second article was published, this time in the January 23rd issue of the Yuma Pioneer. An editor's note stated that a man whom I began referring to as Matthew Spencer was taking responsibility for the nighttime drone sightings. The piece was confusing and didn't seem to be written by a seasoned reporter. If Matthew had knowledge related to the mystery, why was he choosing to speak? After weeks of sightings, I had to find him. Coming up on Obscurum Invasion of the Drums.

[Kyle Tequila]

I got an old saying, and I take it from Einstein, the universe is not only stranger than you imagine, it's.

[Rod]

Stranger than you can imagine.

[Kyle Tequila]

I take that straight to heart.

[Kenny]

There's cameras kind of all over the place.

[Kyle Tequila]

There could be physical manifestations.

[Kenny]

People could get sick.

[Kyle Tequila]

You want to sit me down and say I had lights going? You want the clearest understanding? I think put me on the polygraph.

[Kenny]

If you if you have any information surrounding the events detailed in this podcast or have your own similar account, please visit our [e-mail] and share your story. You'll also find exclusive behind the scenes content on the site to connect with us on social media. You can follow obscurumsere and Abel on all social platforms. Obscurum is produced by Imagine and Leonard's Entertainment for iHeartMedia. This series is written, hosted and produced by me, Gabe Leonars. It's executive produced by Ron Howard, Brian Grazer, Karl Welker, Nathan Cloke, Nikki Etour in Me. Additional production by Jacob Plew Music and sound effects courtesy of Epidemic Sound Brand management in digital design by Labyrinth Branco Video editing by Alex Semy Kopenko. This project was mixed and mastered by Jacob Plew. Special thanks to to Dan Bodanski, Josh Hiller, Keaton Stortz, Bryson Keyes, Ailey Burchfield, David Wasserman, Katrina Norbell and my family. Obscurum Invasion of the Drones is available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to your favorite podcast. Follow now.

[Kyle Tequila]

My name is Kyle Tequila, host of the shocking new true crime podcast Crook County. I got recruited into the mob when I was 17 years old. People are dying. Is he doing this every night? Kenny was a Chicago firefighter who lived a secret double life as a mafia hitman. I had a wife and I had two children. Nobody knew anything.

[Kenny]

He was a fricking crazy man.

[Kyle Tequila]

He was my father and I had no idea about any of this until now. Crook county is available now. Listen for free on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Maria Tremarke]

Welcome to the Criminalia Podcast.

[Kenny]

I'm Maria Tremarke.

[Maria Tremarke]

And I'm Holly Fry.

[Kenny]

Together we invite you into the dark and winding corridors of historical true crime. Each season we explore a new theme. From poisoners to art thieves.

[Maria Tremarke]

We uncover the secrets of history's most interesting figures, from legal injustices to body snatching, and tune in at the end.

[Kenny]

Of each episode as we indulge in.

[Maria Tremarke]

Cocktails and mocktails inspired by each story. Listen to criminalia on the iHeartRadio app.

[Kenny]

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Maria Tremarke]

I'm Mary Kay McBrayer, host of the podcast the Greatest True Crime Stories Ever Told. This season explores women from the 19th century to now. Women who were murderers and scammers, but also women who were photojournalists, lawyers, writers and more. This podcast tells more than just the brutal, gory details of horrific acts. I delve into the good, the bad, the difficult, and all the nuance I can find because these are the stories that we need to know to understand the intersection of society, justice and the fascinating workings of the human psyche. Join me every week as I tell some of the most enthralling true crime stories about women who are not just victims, but heroes or villains, or often somewhere in between. Listen to the greatest true crime stories ever told on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Bob Pittman]

Hi, I'm Bob Pittman, chairman and CEO of iHeartMedia. I'm excited to introduce a brand new season of my podcast, Math and Stories from the Frontiers of Marketing. I'm having conversations with some folks across a wide range of industries to hear how they reach the top of their fields and the lessons they learned along the way that everyone can use. I'll be joined by innovative leaders like Chairman and CEO of Elf Beauty Tarang Amin, legendary singer, songwriter and philanthropist Jewel Being a rock star is very fun.

[Maria Tremarke]

But helping people is way more fun.

[Bob Pittman]

And Damian Maldonado, CEO of American Financing.

[Kyle Tequila]

I figured out the formula. I just have to work hard.

[Chris]

Then that's magic.

[Bob Pittman]

Join me as we uncover innovations in data and analytics, the math and the ever important creative spark, the magic. Listen to Math and magic on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.