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If a person comes to me and they say, I'm ruminating 24 7, I'm in an extreme state. The first question, when it comes to using the OCD Help app and reducing rumination, tracking and reducing rumination, that the time periods on the App are in 180 minute increments. So we're tracking three hours. So first three hours of the day, second three hours of the day, third three hours of the day. So three hours is 180 minutes. Right. So if the person is feeling bad and they're like, I'm ruminating the entire day. Okay, so you're ruminating each three hours. Three hours. 180 out of 180 question. Can you do 1 79? Can you be. And this is not a sarcastic question, this is a real question. Can you do 60 minutes of not actively ruminating? And if you can, let's do that. Like, well, let's do that today. Tomorrow we're gonna do two minutes of not ruminating, then maybe we can increase to five. And we're gonna gradually step down the amount of time that you're actively ruminating. And this is not precise, this is approximate. But what you are doing is you're practicing saying no to OCD when OCD is telling you to jump. You're saying no, I'm not gonna take the bait. I'm not gonna ruminate. I'm not gonna try to figure it out for a hundred thousandth time. I. I'm not going to do it. And if you say, I'm not going to do it for 60 seconds, then that's good enough for now. And that's a stepping stone. And it's an important stepping stone. So there is no situation that's too far gone or too lost. There's only the desire to do recovery and to recover. If your desire is strong, if you're tracking, if you're focused in any situation with any level of distress, you absolutely little by little can get there. Emergency session is available. The link is in the description.
Host: Ali Greymond
Date: June 4, 2026
In this concise, practical episode, Ali Greymond addresses how to begin OCD recovery tracking if you’re experiencing extremely severe, constant rumination. Using the framework of The Greymond Method and the OCD Help app, Ali offers actionable advice, emphasizes hope, and encourages listeners that even the most difficult cases can improve—one minute at a time. The focus here is on building recovery through small, manageable steps and the importance of tracking progress without aiming for perfection.
Ali introduces the idea of splitting the day into three-hour blocks (180 minutes each) for tracking purposes.
“The time periods on the App are in 180-minute increments. So we’re tracking three hours… So if the person is feeling bad and they’re like, I’m ruminating the entire day—okay, so you’re ruminating each three hours: three hours, 180 out of 180. Question: Can you do 179?”
— Ali Greymond [00:21]
Ali encourages listeners to look for even a single minute WITHOUT active rumination—no reduction is too small.
“Can you do 60 minutes of not actively ruminating? And if you can, let’s do that. Like, well, let’s do that today. Tomorrow we’re gonna do two minutes of not ruminating, then maybe we can increase to five. And we’re gonna gradually step down the amount of time that you’re actively ruminating.”
— Ali Greymond [00:37]
The importance of not obsessing over exact numbers: the focus is on gradual reduction, not perfect measurement.
Tracking is meant to empower, not overwhelm.
“And this is not precise, this is approximate. But what you are doing is you’re practicing saying no to OCD when OCD is telling you to jump. You’re saying no, I’m not gonna take the bait. I’m not gonna ruminate. I’m not gonna try to figure it out for the hundred-thousandth time.”
— Ali Greymond [01:01]
The critical mental shift: Frame every moment you don’t engage with rumination as a victory.
Even if you resist for just 60 seconds, that’s significant; it lays the foundation for longer periods of freedom.
“If you say, I’m not going to do it for 60 seconds, then that’s good enough for now. And that’s a stepping stone. And it’s an important stepping stone.”
— Ali Greymond [01:20]
Ali stresses that everyone can achieve recovery, regardless of how severe their situation feels.
The only requirements: Strong desire to recover, commitment to tracking, and consistent focus.
“There is no situation that’s too far gone or too lost. There’s only the desire to do recovery and to recover. If your desire is strong, if you’re tracking, if you’re focused, in any situation with any level of distress, you absolutely little by little can get there.”
— Ali Greymond [01:34]
Breaking the “all or nothing” mindset:
“Can you do 179? … this is not a sarcastic question, this is a real question.”
— Ali Greymond [00:22]
Permission to start very small:
“If you say, I’m not going to do it for 60 seconds, then that’s good enough for now.”
— Ali Greymond [01:21]
Encouragement to those in despair:
“There is no situation that’s too far gone or too lost.”
— Ali Greymond [01:34]
For those starting out or feeling hopeless, this episode serves as practical motivation with clear, manageable steps and powerful encouragement that no case of OCD is “too severe” to start making progress.