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Here's another example of one of my clients tracking and you can see that they've gotten themselves to a point of 01 level of anxiety, but there's still a little bit of rumination there. And I want you to be aware that you have to keep tracking until it's completely zero. If it's still a little bit here, if there's still a little bit of rumination about your OCD topics, it means your OCD is still a little bit alive and you might feel fine, you might have zero anxiety, level one anxiety, but it's still a little bit there. And in a stressful situation it can easily come back. So track until you get to the point of complete zero, that you don't get OCD thoughts on your specific topics, that you don't ruminate about it at all. And you will have that feeling where I'm totally secure, I'm bulletproof. Nothing can get me. Download the OCD Help app and start tracking.
Episode: 👍 Important Last Stage Of OCD Recovery
Host: Ali Greymond
Date: June 16, 2026
In this concise yet impactful episode, Ali Greymond discusses the critical final phase in the journey of OCD recovery. She focuses on the importance of reaching a true "zero" point—not just a minimal level of anxiety or rumination, but a complete absence of obsessive thoughts and impulses to ruminate. Drawing from client experiences and her distinctive tracking approach, Ali emphasizes a thorough and uncompromising return to mental security.
On lingering rumination:
"If it's still a little bit here, if there's still a little bit of rumination about your OCD topics, it means your OCD is still a little bit alive..."
— Ali Greymond ([00:14])
On achieving true security:
"You will have that feeling where I'm totally secure, I'm bulletproof. Nothing can get me."
— Ali Greymond ([00:38])
The episode is direct, motivational, and practical, with Ali's trademark straightforward advice and encouraging tone. She stresses the necessity of not settling for partial recovery and equips listeners with a clear endpoint to work toward.
Ali Greymond highlights the final and often overlooked stage of OCD recovery: reaching true, absolute neutrality with OCD topics. Listeners are urged to stay vigilant in tracking their thoughts until both anxiety and rumination reach zero—not just low levels—so that they can attain lasting freedom and a genuine sense of mental security.