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If a person comes to me and they say, I'm ruminating 24 7, I'm in an extreme state. The first question, when it comes to using the OCD Help app and reducing rumination, tracking and reducing rumination, that the time periods on the App are in 180 minute increments. So we're tracking three hours. So first three hours of the day, second three hours of the day, third three hours of the day. So three hours is 180 minutes. Right. So if the person is feeling bad and they're like, I'm ruminating the entire day. Okay, so you're ruminating each three hours. Three hours. 180 out of 180 question. Can you do 1 79? Can you be. And this is not a sarcastic question, this is a real question. Can you do 60 minutes of not actively ruminating? And if you can, let's do that. Like, well, let's do that today. Tomorrow we're gonna do two minutes of not ruminating, then maybe we can increase to five. And we're gonna gradually step down the amount of time that you're actively ruminating. And this is not precise, this is approximate. But what you are doing is you're practicing saying no to OCD when OCD is telling you to jump. You're saying no, I'm not gonna take the bait. I'm not gonna ruminate. I'm not gonna try to figure it out for a hundred thousandth time. I. I'm not going to do it. And if you say, I'm not going to do it for 60 seconds, then that's good enough for now. And that's a stepping stone. And it's an important stepping stone. So there is no situation that's too far gone or too lost. There's only the desire to do recovery and to recover. If your desire is strong, if you're tracking, if you're focused in any situation with any level of distress, you absolutely little by little can get there. Emergency session is available. The link is in the description.
Podcast: OCD Recovery
Host: Ali Greymond, OCD Specialist & Author
Episode Airdate: June 25, 2026
In this episode, Ali Greymond addresses a critical concern for OCD sufferers—how to initiate recovery tracking when trapped in a severe, seemingly unbreakable cycle of rumination. Ali shares practical, step-by-step advice on using the "OCD Help" app to monitor and gradually reduce obsessive ruminative thinking, with a focus on how even the smallest improvements pave the way for long-term recovery. This episode is especially tailored for those who feel overwhelmed by constant OCD thoughts and are unsure where or how to begin intervention.
Ali acknowledges the experience of being stuck in 24/7 rumination:
"If a person comes to me and they say, I'm ruminating 24/7, I'm in an extreme state..." (00:00)
No situation is too far gone:
Ali emphasizes that every individual—regardless of how severe their OCD feels—has a starting point in recovery.
"...the time periods on the App are in 180 minute increments. So we're tracking three hours." (00:10)
Targeting even a minute of improvement:
"Can you do 179? Can you be... And this is not a sarcastic question, this is a real question. Can you do 60 minutes of not actively ruminating?" (00:40)
Incremental progress is key:
"If you say, I'm not going to do it for 60 seconds, then that's good enough for now. And that's a stepping stone." (01:25)
Active practice:
"...what you are doing is you're practicing saying no to OCD when OCD is telling you to jump." (01:00)
Non-perfectionistic approach:
"There is no situation that's too far gone or too lost. There's only the desire to do recovery and to recover." (01:45)
On the value of tiny steps:
"If you say, I'm not going to do it for 60 seconds, then that's good enough for now. And that's a stepping stone." (Ali Greymond, 01:25)
On universal hope for recovery:
"In any situation with any level of distress, you absolutely little by little can get there." (Ali Greymond, 01:58)
On the tracking philosophy:
"So there is no situation that's too far gone or too lost. There's only the desire to do recovery and to recover." (Ali Greymond, 01:45)