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Let's take a look at the recovery process using the Grayman method from the OCD Help app.
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What you're looking at here is an example of somebody's tracking using OCD Help app. We have the total column of minutes ruminated, active minutes ruminated. Then the next column is W to 9, wake up to 9am, 9 to 12, 12 to 3, 3 to 6, 6 to 9 and 9 to morning. We also are tracking the level of anxiety and the level of overall daily stress.
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Okay, so let's take a look at this tracking. If you look at January 9, right? So the few days before, it looked like things were getting better. And then the person has a bad day and it looks like it's towards the evening, the nine till morning. So it was kind of okay in the morning, but then rising towards the evening. And then the last time period, which is 9pm till the next morning, was really high. So these situations can happen where you were doing good, you were disregarding, and then something comes in and you just react. But look what happened the day after. And this is again, because the person was tracking, they pulled back. So they're like, okay, that was a bad night. I overreacted. No more. And then this is the first time they saw level one anxiety after a few days. So this is how you do recovery work. It's not about never having a bad day, never falling down. It's like, okay, I fell, but it's just the one day. And what you're going to see is that these days where you fell down will happen less and less frequently as you keep going forward. So you need to focus on, okay, where's my mind at right now? Is it on ocd? Am I powering it up? What am I doing right now to feed the ocd? Okay, I'm doing this, this and this. I'm going to stop that. I'm going to focus on other things. So always zoom yourself out so you see perspective, that this is not about the content, this is not about, what does this mean? Why did I have this thought? I'm a bad person. No, this is about OCD hooking you into rumination. You need to pull back and focus on real life stuff. Even though it doesn't feel good, it feels unsettled, it feels unsolved. And this is, this is how you go through the recovery, that every time period counts. Download the OCD Help app and start tracking.
Episode Title: Having an "OFF Day" In OCD Is OK
Host: Ali Greymond
Airdate: June 28, 2026
This episode of the OCD Recovery Podcast, hosted by Ali Greymond, centers on normalizing setbacks during OCD recovery. Using visual data from the OCD Help app, Ali emphasizes the importance of tracking daily rumination and anxiety levels. She reassures listeners that “bad days” are not failures, but natural parts of the journey toward lasting recovery. The episode is rich with practical strategies to overcome guilt about setbacks and cultivate resilience in the face of obsessive thoughts.
On setbacks:
"It's not about never having a bad day, never falling down. It's like, okay, I fell, but it's just the one day... these days where you fell down will happen less and less frequently as you keep going forward."
– Ali Greymond, 01:00
On tracking and perspective:
"Always zoom yourself out so you see perspective, that this is not about the content... this is about OCD hooking you into rumination."
– Ali Greymond, 01:38
On moving forward:
"You need to pull back and focus on real life stuff. Even though it doesn't feel good, it feels unsettled, it feels unsolved."
– Ali Greymond, 01:55
[00:00 – 00:30]
Introduction to tracking OCD symptoms with the app; explanation of time blocks and anxiety rating.
[00:30 – 01:10]
Case example of a bad evening/night and the resulting rebound the next day.
[01:10 – 01:45]
Discussion on how to handle rumination spikes; focusing on mindfulness and self-compassion instead of self-criticism.
[01:45 – End]
Strategic advice on ending compulsions, staying in the present, and using tracking to encourage objectivity and progress.
Ali Greymond’s message is both reassuring and practical: setbacks are not a sign of failure, but evidence of a dynamic recovery process. The Greymond Method and app-based tracking give structure to managing OCD, while self-compassion and persistent redirection away from compulsive rumination are crucial for sustained progress. Above all, listeners are encouraged to keep perspective and prioritize consistency over perfection.