Podcast Summary: OCD Recovery with Ali Greymond
Episode: 👍 Important Last Stage Of OCD Recovery
Date: May 12, 2026
Episode Overview
In this episode, Ali Greymond explores the crucial, often overlooked last stage of OCD recovery: the importance of tracking anxiety and rumination levels all the way down to zero. Building on her experience as a coach, author, and creator of The Greymond Method, Ali explains why partial recovery isn’t enough and offers listeners practical advice to achieve lasting freedom from OCD’s grasp. The episode focuses on persistent mental habits—including subtle rumination—and explains how true recovery is reached only when these habits have been completely eliminated.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. The Final Hurdle: Residual Rumination
- Ali describes a common scenario: Even after significant progress, clients may experience a lingering "level 1 anxiety" or occasional rumination on OCD topics.
- "Here's another example of one of my clients tracking and you can see that they've gotten themselves to a point of 01 level of anxiety, but there's still a little bit of rumination there." (00:00)
- Main message:
- Partial reduction of anxiety isn’t the finish line. Remaining rumination means OCD is still “alive” in the background, ready to resurface during stress.
2. The Importance of Zero Rumination
- "You have to keep tracking until it's completely zero. If it's still a little bit here, if there's still a little bit of rumination about your OCD topics, it means your OCD is still a little bit alive..." (00:09)
- Ali stresses: The goal is to reach a point where:
- You have no OCD thoughts about your specific triggers
- You do not ruminate—even a little—about the old themes
- You genuinely feel “bulletproof” and secure against old obsessions
3. The Illusion of Safety with Low Anxiety
- Even if you “feel fine” or anxiety is at zero, subtle mental checking or brief rumination signifies incomplete recovery.
- "You might feel fine, you might have zero anxiety, level one anxiety, but it's still a little bit there. And in a stressful situation it can easily come back." (00:18)
4. The Power of Self-Tracking
- Ali encourages using tools like her app to track progress daily:
- "So track until you get to the point of complete zero, that you don't get OCD thoughts on your specific topics, that you don't ruminate about it at all." (00:25)
- Tracking makes small slips more visible and keeps full recovery in focus.
5. What True Recovery Feels Like
- "And you will have that feeling where I'm totally secure, I'm bulletproof. Nothing can get me." (00:33)
- True recovery is described as a state of mental immunity where triggers no longer have power and obsessive thought patterns do not return, even under stress.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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"You have to keep tracking until it's completely zero."
— Ali Greymond, (00:09)
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"If there's still a little bit of rumination about your OCD topics, it means your OCD is still a little bit alive..."
— Ali Greymond, (00:13)
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"You will have that feeling where I'm totally secure, I'm bulletproof. Nothing can get me."
— Ali Greymond, (00:33)
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"In a stressful situation it can easily come back."
— Ali Greymond, (00:21)
Section Timestamps
- 00:00-00:13: Example of lingering rumination in a nearly recovered client
- 00:13-00:23: Importance of eradicating all rumination, not just lowering anxiety
- 00:23-00:33: Encouragement to track progress daily and recognition of real recovery
Summary Takeaways
- Don’t settle for “almost recovered”: True OCD recovery is when you no longer ruminate at all, not just when you feel less anxious.
- Track until zero: Continued self-monitoring ensures old habits don’t linger unnoticed.
- Lasting security: Full recovery feels like genuine mental safety, immune to triggers—even during stressful times.
This episode provides crucial motivation and clarity for anyone stuck on “the last 10%” of OCD recovery, emphasizing the need to pursue—not settle for—complete freedom from rumination and old compulsions.
