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Ed Gamble
Oh, hi James. Have you heard the news?
James Acaster
Oh yeah, go on.
Ed Gamble
You and I are modern boys. Because the Off Menu podcast is now on YouTube.
James Acaster
This is embarrassing.
Ed Gamble
Why is it embarrassing, man? You love YouTube.
James Acaster
I love watching clips on YouTube. Sure, now people can watch clips of off menu on YouTube. But it's embarrassing, man.
Ed Gamble
It's not embarrassing at all. It's really cool. We're on YouTube with the great and good. The coolest people in the world are on YouTube. Me, you, Logan Paul.
James Acaster
Who's Logan Paul? The dad from succession at off menu podcast. That's what Benito's calling us now. And we're on TikTok. This is embarrassing, man.
Ed Gamble
It's not embarrassing, man. We're cool. We're like Olivia, Rodrigo and Ed.
James Acaster
People have been asking us, battering us, bothering us. Actually, they want to watch the Stephen Graham super cut from the Stephen Graham episode so they can see all of his reactions to us. Everything that he did or Benito has bent to their whims and he's gonna put it on YouTube. He's gonna do it.
Ed Gamble
Follow us at off menu official on TikTok at Off Menu Podcast on YouTube.
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Ed Gamble
Welcome to the Off Menu podcast. Taking the sweet cream of conversation, sprinkling over the sugar of friendship and blowtorching it with the flame of humor. That was good.
James Acaster
That's a gamble. My name is James Acaster. Together we own a dream restaurant and every single week we invite in a guest and we ask them their favorite ever. Start of main course, dessert, side dish and drink. Not in that order. And this week our guest is Ben Schwartz.
Ed Gamble
Ben Schwartz, a wonderful comedian, actor. He's been in so many things.
James Acaster
We love James Iconic, iconic Jean Ralphio of course in Parks and Rec. Sonic the Hedgehog. Anyone heard of Sonic the Hedgehog?
Ed Gamble
Hello. Are you living under a rock?
James Acaster
Also really enjoyed him in After Party.
Ed Gamble
Yes.
James Acaster
Don't want to give too much away about that series, but very, very good series.
Ed Gamble
Series one of the After Party.
James Acaster
Yes.
Ed Gamble
Co starring with Jamie Demetriou.
James Acaster
Friend of the Pod.
Ed Gamble
Friend of the Pod. Who has been very eager for us to get Ben on. And look, we've always wanted Ben on.
James Acaster
Yes.
Ed Gamble
It's a joy we finally made it happen. But Jamie's like, you got to get Ben on. He's so funny. He'd be so good. He really likes food. So we're very much looking forward to this one.
James Acaster
We know we're in good hands today. Very excited. However, if Ben chooses a secret ingredient, an ingredient which we have deemed to be unacceptable, we will still kick him out of the dream restaurant.
Ed Gamble
Yes.
James Acaster
And this week, the secret ingredient is.
Ed Gamble
Pork Knuckles. Pork Knuckles. Knuckles. Sonic.
James Acaster
Yeah. Knuckles is a character in the Sonic franchise.
Ed Gamble
Yes.
James Acaster
And Ben is Sonic.
Ed Gamble
Ben is Sonic.
James Acaster
What a day that must have been.
Ed Gamble
Getting the Sonic job.
James Acaster
Getting the call. You're Sonic the Hedgehog. Wow.
Ed Gamble
Wow. We'll never get that call. We'll never know how that feels.
James Acaster
Well, they might reboot it again in the future and they might not want to do it.
Ed Gamble
They're not going to pick either of us, man.
James Acaster
Come on.
Ed Gamble
Look, I know you are Lars Penfield, but I don't think that it's a natural stepping stone.
James Acaster
I think Lars Penfield is a step. Look, when you think about how much of a step forward Lars Pinfield was from John the Mouse.
Ed Gamble
That's true.
James Acaster
Do you take the. An equal step forward from that?
Ed Gamble
And John the Mouse from Against Roland. Josh.
James Acaster
Yes.
Ed Gamble
That's a big jump.
James Acaster
I was. I played a character whose name I can't even remember in the sitcom Josh in one episode. Yeah. Then I was John the Mouse. And an Amazon prime film.
Ed Gamble
Yes.
James Acaster
Then I was Lars Penfield in the Ghostbusters franchise. I reckon it's two more steps till I'm Sonic the Hedgehog.
Ed Gamble
You're a franchise guy.
James Acaster
I just do franchises.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
Cinderella.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
Josh.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. Part of the Wid. The Widdom Cinematic universe.
James Acaster
Yeah. It's a huge franchise. Josh Whitaker, he appears. It just expands the franchise. Yeah. Ben Schwartz has been in a lot of stuff, though, and has a lot of projects coming up that we're very excited about.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. We normally get, like, a really detailed sheet of stuff about one project, but with Ben, we've got three lines and it's three different projects.
James Acaster
Yeah. DNA.
Ed Gamble
Yes.
James Acaster
A comedy that I think Ben created.
Ed Gamble
Yes.
James Acaster
With Sam Rockwell. Also Mike and Nick. And Nick and Alice.
Ed Gamble
Yes.
James Acaster
Which also features Vince Vaughan, James Marsden, and also, of course, Ben Schwartz and Friends, his improv show, which is touring.
Ed Gamble
Us and they've toured here quite recently.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
And obviously Ben is Sonic.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah.
James Acaster
I mean, how does this guy even fit in, guesting on podcasts with all these projects going on?
Ed Gamble
Madness. I mean, he's really fast. I suppose. So. You can just zoom around town.
James Acaster
That helps massively.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, yeah.
James Acaster
Being able to zoom around town in his special shoes. I'd like to zoom around town.
Ed Gamble
Would you like Sonic?
James Acaster
Like Sonic? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Would you like to zoom around town?
Ed Gamble
I think so. I'd like to think I'd take a moment for myself now and again.
James Acaster
Sonic can, though. He can slow down.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
He's not always zooming around town.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
I wouldn't want to be the Flash. I know the Flash can stop, but the Flash tends to zoom around town all the time.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, he's zooming cause he's stressed, I think a lot of the time.
James Acaster
Very, very stressed. Yeah. But Sonic maybe not as stressed. His friends with a nice little fox and a pink hedgehog as well.
Ed Gamble
Can I tell you something that happened last night? Cause I don't know if I'll get it into the conversation with Ben.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
About two o' clock this morning, Charlie, my wife, was sort of like tossing and turning around in the bed and it woke me up. And then she was fast asleep. And we have an Alexa thing next to the bed. And she said in her sleep, she said, alexa, play fart sounds. And that is something you can do.
James Acaster
Yes, my nephews have shown me that.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. And it went blue, blue and started loading up. And I went, charlie, what are you doing? And woke her up. She went, what? I went, you just asked Alexa something? And she said, yeah, to play rain sounds because I find it relaxing. I went, that's not what you did. And then as I said that, it went. And then Alexa went, that was a wet one. So I'm like incapacitated with laughter.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
And Charlie's got no idea what's going on.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah.
James Acaster
It doesn't never plan it. She's like.
Ed Gamble
She went, alexa, stop. And Alexa went, okie dokie.
James Acaster
Okie dokie. You're. Alexa says.
Ed Gamble
So there you go. I thought I'd get that off my chest quickly.
James Acaster
That's brilliant. I love that.
Ed Gamble
I'm a bit tired today because I was woken up by fart sounds in the middle of the night. Yeah.
James Acaster
It's hard to get back to sleep after that. Imagine you're constantly thinking about how funny it was, how you meant to get back to bed. Well, there you go. And Alexa knew, really, that Charlie wanted rain sounds, so he gave a wet one. Yeah, yeah, Wet one. There you go. It's as close to rain as I can get with the fart noises.
Ed Gamble
Anyway. Should we crack on with this? Yes. This is the off menu menu of Ben Schwartz. Welcome, Ben to the Dream Restaurant.
Ben Schwartz
Oh, I can't believe I'm here. Whoa.
James Acaster
Welcome back towards to the Dream. But it's been here for some time.
Ben Schwartz
Oh, there's so much smoke in the room all of a sudden.
Ed Gamble
Pretty cool, right?
Ben Schwartz
That's crazy.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
How are you? Good.
James Acaster
What color's the smoke?
Ben Schwartz
The color is blue, of course. Yeah. I watched Aladdin when I was a kid, so of course it's going to be blue. And you're dressed. You have earrings on, but you're also very chic. English chic. Genie flavor is what I'm getting.
James Acaster
Thank you very much.
Ben Schwartz
Of course. Can you. Can you describe your outfit for me? Yes. Should I start with what's on your head? Because I've never seen anybody wear a hat like that.
James Acaster
Okay. Well, it's actually a tiara made of unicorn horns.
Ben Schwartz
I wasn't going to say anything. So it looks like a Macbeth's, like, crown, but all unicorn horns. Yeah.
James Acaster
Yeah. Ed killed them.
Ed Gamble
Yes.
Ben Schwartz
Oh, good for you.
James Acaster
And harvested the horns for me to give me genie powers.
Ben Schwartz
What do you do with. Do they just become horses? You have a bunch of horses around?
Ed Gamble
Yeah, well, they're dead, so. I mean, they're corpses.
Ben Schwartz
All right. Regardless, couldn't you bring them back to life, you being a genie?
James Acaster
Yeah, yeah, I could have done, but I didn't wish for it, so they.
Ed Gamble
All just didn't have my wishes.
Ben Schwartz
Do you ever. And listen. I haven't listened to enough episodes to understand. Do you ever use wishes for good, like, go back in time and, like, save people's lives or anything or.
Ed Gamble
No, there's a lot. I mean, it's all food based, really, so you'd have to sort of include a meal within the.
Ben Schwartz
What about poisoning someone who's created a lot of harm for people? You can do that. Have you done that as a genie?
James Acaster
No one's asked me. I would love to do it.
Ben Schwartz
You want to kill. You want destruction?
James Acaster
You would love back in time and kill someone with poison, but, like, a.
Ben Schwartz
Lot of smoke, you know?
James Acaster
I mean, who would you. If you had that wish? If I was like, oh, the big.
Ben Schwartz
Ones, I probably just hit off the big ones.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
I'll just probably hit off the big ones. Yeah.
James Acaster
We're talking.
Ben Schwartz
Who do you think The.
James Acaster
The Dolph.
Ben Schwartz
Sorry? You call him the Dolph?
James Acaster
Well, sometimes.
Ben Schwartz
You're talking about Dolph Lundgren. Would you go back in time to kill Rocky Four Star?
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah.
James Acaster
Wow.
Ben Schwartz
This genie is.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ben Schwartz
Do you BLEEP it out?
Ed Gamble
No, no, we'll leave it all in.
James Acaster
People have to deal with it.
Ben Schwartz
Unbelievable.
Ed Gamble
Especially when we talk about killing Dolph Lundgren.
Ben Schwartz
Wow. This is the real deal.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
Unbelievable.
James Acaster
Probably never get Dol Lin on the podcast now.
Ben Schwartz
Let's call him up. I bet we can get him.
James Acaster
Let's get him. Let's call him up.
Ben Schwartz
I bet we can get him.
James Acaster
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ben Schwartz
I'd be interested to hear what his app is, what his first appetizer is in his meal. Dolph Lundgren.
Ed Gamble
Have you got his number?
Ben Schwartz
Yeah, let's call him.
Ed Gamble
Dolph.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah, Real quick.
James Acaster
All right, let's get.
Ben Schwartz
Oh, yeah, Call Dolph Lungren.
Ed Gamble
Ring, ring.
James Acaster
Is that. Is that dope? Sli.
Ben Schwartz
Do you. Do you guys know that I'm incredible at impressions?
Ed Gamble
You can do any impression.
Ben Schwartz
Name anybody. It can be English. It can be Amer. Anybody you want to.
James Acaster
Yeah, yeah, I will.
Ben Schwartz
Immediately after you say the. Jesse J. The singer.
James Acaster
Yes.
Ben Schwartz
You want me to do Jesse the singer? Yeah, of course. Here we go. Pretend you're calling Jesse J.
James Acaster
Bring. Hello. Hello, Jesse J.
Ben Schwartz
Hey, how are you?
James Acaster
I'm good.
Ben Schwartz
Anybody else you want to hear?
Ed Gamble
Weirdly, your impression of Jesse J. Was better than James's impression of a phone. I said bring.
Ben Schwartz
From the 30s, like, on the wall where you have to, like, turn the little thing to make it work. Yeah, I get it, JD all you know is old stuff. Well, thanks for coming down. I appreciate it.
James Acaster
Thank you for coming down. My gosh, this is very excited to have you on the podcast.
Ben Schwartz
I've heard of this podcast so many times from so many people I respect and love in comedy, so I'm very happy to see that. The chemistry is unbelievable in this room. You should see. The genie's going bananas. Right?
James Acaster
I am literally covered in bananas. Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
Do you have a different name when you're a genie? Are you yourself?
James Acaster
Oh, good. Yeah. Good question.
Ed Gamble
No one should I call you ever asked that?
Ben Schwartz
What should I call you? You're a genie, so you're not yourself.
James Acaster
Yeah, well, I'm a bit like Rumpelstiltskin in that if you guess my name, then you have control over me. Is that how it works?
Ben Schwartz
Okay. That you haven't read Rumpelstiltskin. That's.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, yeah, I've read it either.
James Acaster
If he gets his name, he lets you go. Is he trapped? A woman. He starts making a floor spin. A wheel.
Ben Schwartz
Is this what the show is?
James Acaster
He stamps on the floor. Yeah, we tried, remember?
Ed Gamble
We try and guess what happens in Rumple.
Ben Schwartz
Still different fairy tales. Okay. What happens let's do Three Bears.
James Acaster
Let's do Three Bears.
Ben Schwartz
Remember what happens in Three Bears?
James Acaster
Oh, definitely.
Ben Schwartz
Okay. What happens in Three Bears? I'll set it up for you. You tell me what happens. Obviously, a woman goes. This little girl. Sorry, you're right. It's not a woman. You're right. It's Red Riding Hood goes in there and there's three bears.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
And then what happens?
James Acaster
They all. One of them.
Ben Schwartz
Wow.
Ed Gamble
Well, they're not there for a start.
James Acaster
Oh, they're not there.
Ben Schwartz
That's smart.
James Acaster
That's what threw me off.
Ben Schwartz
We should start by saying they're not there.
James Acaster
Yeah, they're not there. Which is a bold move.
Ben Schwartz
A huge. She goes in there. She's breaking.
James Acaster
So how three of the main characters not be there?
Ed Gamble
But we're fine. We're fine with saying it's Red Riding Hood. Right. We're going with that.
Ben Schwartz
I don't know if that's right. Is it?
Ed Gamble
No, it's Goldilocks. So is that true? Yeah, it's not Red Riding.
Ben Schwartz
This is true. We don't know any. We don't know anything. We must know one. Name one. What's the most popular.
James Acaster
Hold on.
Ben Schwartz
Kid story.
James Acaster
The Three Bears aren't there and Red Riding Hood's not there.
Ben Schwartz
No. So basically, we're in an empty house. This is like the movie up without the old man. It's just an old house just hanging out.
James Acaster
Even sadder.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah.
James Acaster
The opening montage is very dull.
Ben Schwartz
Very dull. It's just blank, different rooms.
Ed Gamble
Red Riding Hood is the one who.
James Acaster
Goes to visit the grand over the years.
Ben Schwartz
What did Red Riding Hood do? Grandma.
Ed Gamble
But it's a wolf. So Grandma's not there?
Ben Schwartz
No. Man, everybody's missing something in these things.
Ed Gamble
Well, I suppose Grandma is there because she's in the wolf's stomach.
James Acaster
A lot of fairy tales include someone not being there.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah. Being eaten. Anyway, Jeannie, lovely to meet you.
James Acaster
Lovely to meet you.
Ben Schwartz
I can't wait. Thank you for using your powers today.
James Acaster
Oh, we're very excited as well that you got a number of projects coming up, Ben, that we're dying to talk about.
Ben Schwartz
Oh, wow.
James Acaster
Very excited about all of them. I'm excited that you're doing about this DNA project with Sam Rockwell. Okay, that's what I'm excited about.
Ben Schwartz
It's just announced. Just now.
Ed Gamble
Announced.
James Acaster
So we've got announcement.
Ben Schwartz
This is the. Well, it's the second announcement. One was two years ago when I sold it to be. To write it. Oh, my God. Yeah. And especially with like. Yeah, please. You know. How much you get paid for writing not. Not a high budget movie. And then it was me and Sam and then we attached Yorma, who is amazing, who probably has been on the show. If not should be. Have you had any Lonely island guys or.
James Acaster
No, we've had no Lonely Island. We'd love it. I'd probably geek out a bit too much about Lonely island songs, so best it doesn't happen.
Ed Gamble
James gets really geeky around some people.
Ben Schwartz
Really?
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
Are you music people?
James Acaster
Yes. I like. You didn't give a fuck about me.
Ben Schwartz
So it's like, oh, listen, you have no idea. You don't care.
James Acaster
The amount of things we're holding back on now, Ben. You have no idea.
Ben Schwartz
Seems like nothing. You have to look at a piece of.
James Acaster
We told our friend Nish yesterday is he's a comedian. Nish Kumar. But like, we talked to the show coming on. Yeah. End of the show. Absolutely. And then we spent like about half an hour just doing John Ralphio quotes.
Ben Schwartz
Oh, that's exciting.
James Acaster
So, you know, believe me, we're holding back a lot on geekdom at the minute.
Ben Schwartz
Okay. I can't wait. I can't wait for you to explode.
James Acaster
Yeah, yeah. If Nish was here, he would be. We can call him up.
Ben Schwartz
I don't know why we keep threatening to call people. I don't think I've ever been on a podcast where we call people Nish.
Ed Gamble
We're bringing back. We're bringing back pranks.
Ben Schwartz
Oh, wow. Is this.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
Is this like the. What was it called? Not the Farty Boys. What was it called? The Jerky Boys. Did you guys have that? Maybe it was too. I'm too old.
Ed Gamble
We have the Farty Boys.
Ben Schwartz
How old are you guys? You're younger than me by year.
James Acaster
39.
Ben Schwartz
39. Okay. We're close. You're younger than that.
Ed Gamble
38.
Ben Schwartz
38.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
When's your birthday? Let me guess. I do not know either. All right, Ben, I don't know yours. I will guess all three of your birthdays.
James Acaster
Yes.
Ben Schwartz
Separately.
James Acaster
Okay. Okay.
Ben Schwartz
This is a special skill that I do.
James Acaster
Yes. Yes.
Ben Schwartz
Okay.
Ed Gamble
Is it like the impressions?
James Acaster
Then It'll be perfect.
Ben Schwartz
April 13th.
James Acaster
Not far off.
Ben Schwartz
What is it? That's correct.
James Acaster
Right?
Ben Schwartz
That means I'm within two and a half weeks. Okay.
James Acaster
Okay.
Ben Schwartz
If I get within two and a half weeks. That's unbelievable. Ben, it's crazy. You didn't even react. You guys are too British. That's unbelievable.
Ed Gamble
This is a skill.
James Acaster
He doesn't react to anything.
Ed Gamble
That's unbelievable.
Ben Schwartz
That's true.
Ed Gamble
That's Right.
Ben Schwartz
Okay. Give me a second.
James Acaster
Yeah. Ben doesn't react to anything. Just don't ever take it personally with him. We've been doing this podcast for a long time. He just sits there like he's not coining it in.
Ben Schwartz
God, you laughed at the genie part. You laugh every time at the genie part.
James Acaster
No, he hates the genie part. I always hear him going predictable.
Ben Schwartz
July 6th.
James Acaster
January 9th.
Ben Schwartz
Oh, you got the J. September 10th. No, October 4th.
Ed Gamble
But hang on. You got the number, right?
James Acaster
I. I think in your head, you saw. For me, it begins with J and you saw the number nine and you flipped upside down.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah, And I was trying to think. I was trying to. January 6th, the big thing that happened in America and DC, I was like, you're definitely born around that time. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ed Gamble
On that day.
Ben Schwartz
You're the 10th. But it's not of that.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
February 10th. No.
Ed Gamble
Much. Oh, so close, though, to get the tent straight.
Ben Schwartz
Is this what the podcast is?
Ed Gamble
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
James Acaster
It's 100. What? The podcast.
Ben Schwartz
I love this. I love this.
James Acaster
I love how you're. You're initiating these games and then you ask us, is this what the podcast is?
Ed Gamble
We've got two more projects to talk about.
James Acaster
Yes. Sorry.
Ben Schwartz
Oh, sorry. DNA. So we're. We just attached Jorma, and we're eeking towards a green light, which is very exciting. And we haven't. I'm not allowed to say what it's about yet. It's. It's under wraps. The pot. The plot is under wraps.
Ed Gamble
That's cool.
Ben Schwartz
But I wrote it. I've written many drafts of it, but the first draft was written years ago for Searchlight. And then we attached Party Over Here, which is Yorma, Andy, and Akiva. And then we attached Jorm as director. And now we're fixing the script up to hopefully shoot with me and Sam Rockwell, who's won an Oscar, and he's.
James Acaster
Doing a movie, Scar for free. Billboards. Oh, yeah, he was. He was the.
Ed Gamble
Here we go.
James Acaster
He was great in a Green Mile, remember?
Ben Schwartz
Very good. Yeah, he was.
James Acaster
When I first saw him, and I.
Ben Schwartz
Was like, he was in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. The original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles is as lead thug.
Ed Gamble
Now I'm interested.
Ben Schwartz
You got to see a picture of me. He's amazing. He's wearing a white T shirt, and he has, like, cigarettes underneath his white shirt.
Ed Gamble
Always.
Ben Schwartz
He's like a kid.
Ed Gamble
Coolest thing.
Ben Schwartz
The coolest.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
God.
James Acaster
Mike and Nick and Nick and Alice. Does the name Vince Vaughan mean anything to you?
Ben Schwartz
A little bit. Did a little role in that. We just wrapped that. That was very fun. I. There's a very. Ben David, who directed it, did Scott Pilgrim, the Animated Series and is a genius. And he called me and he had this really fun role and he pitched it to me and showed me his storyboards, and it was so cool. I was like, gotta do it. So I did that. That was really fun. James Marsden is in that. Who's also in sonic.
James Acaster
Yes.
Ben Schwartz
1, 2, and 3.
James Acaster
Did you. Is this your first time meeting James Marsden face to face? Because in Sonic, your cartoon.
Ben Schwartz
That's true. This is. I met him during publicity. But you're right.
James Acaster
Must be weird.
Ed Gamble
I like to imagine you on set in Sonic, just sort of painted blue, walking around, doing the voice.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah. That's what. I'm just hanging out.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
I don't smoke cigarettes, but I imagine I'm smoking cigarettes. Smoking cigarettes, being like, all right, another one. Yeah.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
I feel like that could be me.
James Acaster
Do you think you can. If you had to be Sonic in real life, you could do it.
Ben Schwartz
Tell me what that means. Take me through what that means and I'll tell you. Yes or no.
James Acaster
Run really fast. Run into all the coins. Run upside down.
Ben Schwartz
Rings, coins. Is Mario. Keep going. Anything else you want to.
Ed Gamble
Getting hit and dropping rings everywhere.
Ben Schwartz
There you go. That's good. Yeah. Yeah. Picking up my barrel and throwing it like Donkey Kong.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah.
James Acaster
And you have to defeat Robotnik at the end of Robotnik is Jim Carrey.
Ben Schwartz
Jim Carrey is amazing.
James Acaster
So do you. Could you beat him in a fight in real life?
Ben Schwartz
No. Jim Carrey, I think, can absolutely destroy me. 100. You ever see Truman Show?
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
You can do anything.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
And Truman Show. Does he beat someone up in Truman Show?
Ben Schwartz
No.
James Acaster
He probably gets his ass handed to him a lot.
Ben Schwartz
He does. But then that's kind of by weather and by people.
James Acaster
Yeah. Ed Harris is pretty mean to him, actually. Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
Wears very small glasses. Do you remember how small his glasses were, Honey Glasses? Yeah. Two little monocles tied together. Great movie, though. That was one of the first. Him and Robin Williams, for you guys, are both comedians. Him and Robin Williams doing drama was such a big deal for me to see because growing up, I'd never seen a comedian do drama before. And then I saw Robin Williams do it and I saw Jim Carrey do it. I was like, oh, we're allowed to do both.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
And it was a huge eye opener. And so, Jim, those. That. And eternal sunshine was huge to see as a kid.
James Acaster
I spoke to David Cross recently on his podcast.
Ben Schwartz
Yep.
James Acaster
And he Would not. I kept saying to him, every now. You know, how often a week do you think to yourself, I was in eternal sunshine? And he's like, never.
Ben Schwartz
Oh, really?
James Acaster
I was like, come on.
Ben Schwartz
It has to be all the time.
James Acaster
Come on. I would think it all the time.
Ben Schwartz
All the time.
James Acaster
Now I'm trying to quote one of his lines to him. I am building a birdhouse.
Ben Schwartz
Very good.
James Acaster
We wouldn't have any of that.
Ed Gamble
No, he didn't.
James Acaster
He didn't know biting.
Ben Schwartz
No, he didn't want to play with you. I get it.
James Acaster
We haven't tried to guess your birthday.
Ben Schwartz
Women try to guess my birthday.
James Acaster
We haven't. Women do.
Ed Gamble
Women do. Women try to guess your birthday.
Ben Schwartz
Do you want to try? This is. I think you guys can get it.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
I'll zap it to you. This is the thing you didn't give to me. I will zap it to your head.
Ed Gamble
I was zapping, man.
James Acaster
Look at me.
Ben Schwartz
You were not.
Ed Gamble
I was that.
Ben Schwartz
You were zapping the number.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
Zap it into my head.
Ben Schwartz
I'm really doing it.
James Acaster
Okay.
Ben Schwartz
It's in your head. I can see it. Just say the first thing you're thinking of.
James Acaster
September.
Ben Schwartz
This is unbelievable.
James Acaster
Is it September?
Ben Schwartz
Keep going. I'm not gonna say yes or no till you're done.
James Acaster
Are you fucking with me?
Ben Schwartz
It doesn't matter. Keep going. Just whatever you feel.
James Acaster
The 15th. Google it, Benito. Google it. 15th of September.
Ed Gamble
No. You are kidding me.
Ben Schwartz
You must have looked it up before.
James Acaster
Yeah, I looked up.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, yeah, I saw. But when I said, you calling this. He was looking it up.
James Acaster
Yeah, yeah, I left just enough time.
Ben Schwartz
I thought you were just on Twitter for some reason.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, yeah.
Ben Schwartz
I don't know. The genie just goes on Twitter for no reason.
Ed Gamble
I'd put a little mark, a little sticker on in my head, going, like, be horrible to James afterwards and really take him to task for going on his phone during the podcast, because he's never. He's never done that before.
Ben Schwartz
I couldn't believe that. Really?
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
It's really rude. I was like, oh, I guess this is what. Everybody's chill. Everybody's chill here.
Ed Gamble
It must have felt like a sort of cool American, like, bro podcast.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
They're all in there.
James Acaster
Yeah. Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
It feels like. Yeah, I'm sure their podcasts. Everybody's on their phones. Right.
James Acaster
But I thought, I'll look up Ben's birthday.
Ben Schwartz
You did that so well. You delivered that so well.
James Acaster
Then later on, I'll. I'll bring it up. But I thought I'd do it now, because I didn't want the whole podcast for you to be sitting there going, that gum's on his phone.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah, sure, I'm happy to.
Ed Gamble
I didn't like it. No. Even though it gave us that moment, I still don't like it.
Ben Schwartz
Of course not. Would you take it back in an instant? Yeah, of course. Oh, wow. Live and die by the sword.
James Acaster
It's working for me that one of.
Ed Gamble
Your genie wishes to be go back in time and stop and do it.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah. I use one of my three wishes to make you never look at your phone.
James Acaster
Poison myself.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah. A food based poisoning.
James Acaster
Are you much of a foodie, Ben?
Ben Schwartz
I am. I love food. So the three of us tour comedically and I do a improv show called Ben Schwartz and Friends. And I told Toro Lever. I came here a couple times and one of the things I do is I bring three improvisers with me and I try to go to a fancy and beautiful restaurant in every city we go to. So I have a Google Doc of all the restaurants I've been to, rating them my favorite dishes there. And if we love it, we go back. If not, we explore. So I, I love food, but it's more of like a new thing. I didn't really have money before to, to eat the type of meals that we're eating now. And now when we're on tour, I just feel like it's like I want to show those guys how much I appreciate they're coming out. And so we go out fancy whenever we go on tour.
James Acaster
What are the other improvisers who, like, out of all your improv friends that you bring out with you, who's the biggest foodie? Who? You're like, this person's got.
Ben Schwartz
Great question. Well, it's almost different because the people who love it the most are the people who aren't foodies. So like we went to a restaurant in Toronto, Matty Matheson, who should have, who's a chef and hilarious on the bear, he has a restaurant in Toronto. He has many. Has like 20,000 restaurants, but he has one called Prime Seafood palace. And one of the dishes was, I believe, ice cream with caviar on it. And like anytime we go to a place that has like something that none of us have tasted before, that's when it's the most exciting. It's almost more exciting when someone never goes out like that, then we have the most fun ever because we're tasting things we've never.
Ed Gamble
Also, if you're all improvisers, you can't turn anything down, can you?
Ben Schwartz
No. We have to. That's right. We can't turn down an idea like Morgan Spurlock.
Ed Gamble
Madsen's in the back just being like caviar on ice cream. See if they'll eat that.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah. That's literally. We have to say yes. This is a great line. You're absolutely correct. We'll eat anything. But it's been one of the most fun things. And because you talk to. It's like, you know, a bunch of comedy people talking and, like becoming friends and it's just great.
Ed Gamble
Prime Seafood palace is a restaurant I've not been to. I've never been to Toronto, but it's one of the restaurants I follow on Instagram and just look at the pictures.
Ben Schwartz
Is that true? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What other restaurants do you follow?
Ed Gamble
I mean, a lot of Matty Mattison's stuff. Actually his burger. His burger place as well. Sure.
Ben Schwartz
You gotta get him on the show.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. Oh, God, yeah. He's on the list. He's on the list.
Ben Schwartz
Let's get him. Get him on the phone.
James Acaster
Get him on the phone. Let's get him on the phone. Bring.
Ben Schwartz
Hello, It's Charlie. Is it always Charlie xcx? Oh, no, Jesse. Jessie J.
James Acaster
Earlier.
Ben Schwartz
Sorry.
Ed Gamble
Charlie xcx.
James Acaster
That's Charlie XCX now.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
You could tell difference, right?
James Acaster
We always start with still. A sparkling water.
Ben Schwartz
Still can't do sparkling bubbles. Acid reflux bubbles up my stomach. Makes me feel full before I'm full.
Ed Gamble
Oh, no.
Ben Schwartz
Same with not drinking too much. When I eat a real meal, I will only have like one or two beverages and usually save it for the end.
Ed Gamble
Save the beverages for the.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah, because it'll fill me up and then I'm full. By the way, can we talk about a tasting menu thing? Have you guys? I love the idea of a tasting menu, but it gets me so full by the end that I. The experience is sometimes ruined because I'm so uncomfortable going home. Is that true? False. Do we agree?
James Acaster
Absolutely.
Ed Gamble
I. I don't get full. Really?
Ben Schwartz
Really? Yeah. I can see you as one of those people can just eat everything.
Ed Gamble
Oh, God, yeah. Plow through it. Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
What'd you eat for breakfast this morning?
Ed Gamble
I didn't have breakfast, actually.
Ben Schwartz
Wow. Really playing the game. Well, I can eat anything.
James Acaster
Would you take it out on your improv tour?
Ed Gamble
I didn't know we were doing improv. I thought we have an honest chat.
Ben Schwartz
No, we are having an honest. You should never tell with these guys, do you? Fast or certain?
Ed Gamble
Not deliberately, no. I just think because it's an early morning record, so I wanted to sleep as long as before I came, so.
Ben Schwartz
Oh, that's smart.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
So you're gonna. You're just gonna absolutely eat something right now.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, yeah. James is making his own jokes, laughing at his own.
James Acaster
I'm looking at bad because I'm trying to get reactions out of him. After it was, like, established that you can't get a reaction out of it.
Ben Schwartz
Benny's laughing all the time.
James Acaster
So I deliberately did a bad joke, and he looked at Ben.
Ben Schwartz
You ever get better microphone or no? You never get better microphone.
James Acaster
He doesn't want to talk on it ever. He's very reluctant to talk. He doesn't like it when producers talk on podcasts, which is fair enough.
Ben Schwartz
Oh, I understand that. Do you want to say. You want to say something about it?
James Acaster
And actually, a lot of people.
Ed Gamble
The microphone is now in Ben's face. He absolutely hates it.
Ben Schwartz
Still water, please.
James Acaster
Still water. Yep. I found out recently my dad. So I went out for breakfast with my dad yesterday.
Ben Schwartz
Okay.
James Acaster
Some water was brought over to the table. I poured my dad a glass. He went, no, no, no, no, thank you. I don't drink water. I didn't know this about him. And he went. He said, whenever I have to drink it, I hold my nose.
Ben Schwartz
Wait, how do you go your whole life without knowing that about your dad?
James Acaster
Well, I didn't know that.
Ben Schwartz
That cannot be the first time your dad has refused water in the 40.
Ed Gamble
So are you going back through all your memories and going, have I ever seen water?
James Acaster
But, like, wait, wait, this is.
Ben Schwartz
This is too big. This is too big for you to gloss over your entire. You said you're 39? 38.
James Acaster
Yes.
Ben Schwartz
39 years old. You were. You. Is this the father that raised you and everything? Okay, so you've been around the table 100 times. You've been to a thousand restaurants.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
You've never seen your dad hold his nose and drink water and been like, hey, Pop?
James Acaster
No.
Ben Schwartz
Really?
James Acaster
No, I've never seen my pop.
Ed Gamble
I think if you'd met James's dad, this wouldn't seem as big.
Ben Schwartz
Get him on the phone. Hello?
James Acaster
Hi, dad.
Ben Schwartz
Hey, it's Katy Perry. Just a lot of pop icons are fun.
James Acaster
Yeah. But, like, I mean, I remember once he was, like, trying to lose some weight, and he was like, I'm not drinking water because it's a con.
Ben Schwartz
It's a con.
James Acaster
It says it's a con. You put on. Your body just retains it all. You put on too much weight. I'm not drinking Water. I remember that happening.
Ben Schwartz
And wait, so what does he drink? So he's not drinking water. How is he keeping himself hydrated?
Ed Gamble
Hot chocolate.
James Acaster
I mean, definitely he'll be drinking hot chocolate.
Ben Schwartz
Really?
James Acaster
And, like, he'll be drinking a whole bunch of stuff that puts on way more weight than water does.
Ben Schwartz
This is so funny. He'll drink tea, which is water. Just hot water.
James Acaster
Yeah, he would drink that. Coffees.
Ben Schwartz
Don't tell him it's just hot water.
James Acaster
Oh, he ordered an orange juice at the breakfast.
Ben Schwartz
Okay.
James Acaster
And here's how he ordered it. He said to the waitress, there's absolutely no rush on this, but I'd love an orange juice in the next five minutes. So we had an obvious juice. He had a coffee.
Ed Gamble
Didn't hold his nose for either.
James Acaster
Didn't hold his nose. He loves it.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
But it has no smell. Water has no smell. I don't understand what you're. Usually you do that when something smells, so you don't want to taste the smell.
James Acaster
Yeah. He hates it.
Ed Gamble
Or. Yeah, maybe it goes up his. Maybe it sort of comes out the back of his mouth and down his nose like you're swimming one of those things.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Pinchers.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, it's really smart.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah, it's really smart.
James Acaster
Schwartz poplars or bread?
Ben Schwartz
Poplubs or bread? Yes. What is a Pablo's As.
Ed Gamble
As is tradition, when James screams poppadoms or bread.
Ben Schwartz
What is a poppadom?
James Acaster
It's when you go to an Indian restaurant, they get. Give you those at the start of the meal before the food comes out. They might bring you a big, like, big round crisps.
Ben Schwartz
Oh, I love those.
James Acaster
And you smash them.
Ben Schwartz
But I love it. I love a bread. I love bread. Books have bread. Do I get choose.
James Acaster
You can get whatever bread you want. It could be a specific one that you've had.
Ben Schwartz
By the way, when I come to England, the most fun thing is eating bread, because you get bread and then you get, get. You have your butter, you have your marmalade, you have your rat. Like, it's. It's like a whole. When you get bread in America, it's just like they throw it on here. It's like a beautiful presentation. It's gorgeous.
Ed Gamble
But you're going to nice places as well. We've already. If you're traveling, you're going to nice places.
Ben Schwartz
That's true. I'm trying to. Or the hotel. When you get like breakfast at your hotel, they'll give you, like, something. But I feel like every breakfast here has at least Some like strawberry jam or marmalade and butter for bread.
James Acaster
Yeah, yeah.
Ben Schwartz
You know the other thing I love, anytime we come here, like if you go to a hotel, the. The, like places where you put the towels are hot. Love that invention. Oh, yeah, that. I don't know why we don't do that.
James Acaster
Do you just put the towels on there or do you put other things on there?
Ben Schwartz
I put my balls on there.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
I'm giving you what you want. I don't know why. I don't know.
James Acaster
Where are your balls going? Yeah, in every. In everything we talk where your balls are.
Ben Schwartz
Okay.
Ed Gamble
I'm annoyed.
Ben Schwartz
Papadoms.
Ed Gamble
You say, can we just go back to the water quick?
Ben Schwartz
Of course, yeah.
Ed Gamble
Are you going to put your balls in there?
Ben Schwartz
In the water? Yeah, I'm going to plug my nose and put my balls in the water. Yeah, I got to plug my nose before I put my balls in the water. Yeah, absolutely. But if I'm doing that, I get sparkling. If it's for. If it's for my boss, I'd get sparkles.
James Acaster
Oh, yeah, that's true. Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
Massaging my mouth a little bit.
James Acaster
100.
Ed Gamble
So we're doing a separate menu today as well as your dream menu. We're doing. What would you rather put your balls in?
Ben Schwartz
And this is the show. I didn't introduce this. This is the show.
James Acaster
I asked Jake to put anything else on the heated towel back and you said bubbles.
Ben Schwartz
I just figured that's what you want. You were like winking at me.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, yeah. I'm pointing at your own balls.
Ben Schwartz
I'm gonna say, you're right. I have the S end everything.
James Acaster
Put it into my balls. I whisper, but your balls, it's fine.
Ben Schwartz
Remember Roger Rabbit when he goes like, shave and a haircut and Roger Rabbit has to finish it? That's like me. My friend Gil Ozer always uses that as a context. It's like we have to finish the joke, whatever it is, but you always.
Ed Gamble
Finish it with your balls. Yes.
Ben Schwartz
No matter what the joke is. Knock, knock.
Ed Gamble
Is that.
Ben Schwartz
Who's that, Charlie? Xox.
James Acaster
Xox, yeah.
Ben Schwartz
It's a different Charlie.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, she's friendlier with the balls.
James Acaster
There you go.
Ben Schwartz
Ben's almost laughing. Ben's having a great time. I'm gonna pop on the mic. Not today, Ben. Hey, man, I would do bread. I love bread and butter.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, the specific type of bread. Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
Or I like a whole wheat in the morning. I'll do that. But a croissant when I'm here. You guys have the best pastries. Also and I go crazy for that. But bread and butter, I usually always start always have a little bit. And then we could dunk. If we're in like an Italian restaurant, we can dunk and get some of that sauce in the end.
Ed Gamble
I think we can do this whole thing as a platter for you. All those different breads, is that okay? Some oils, Is that okay with the g?
James Acaster
Yeah, yeah.
Ben Schwartz
Okay.
James Acaster
You have a bread platter and. And be dunking them and stuff up.
Ben Schwartz
Thanks guys.
James Acaster
Putting your balls in the dips. If you got all the different dips, are you putting your balls in those?
Ben Schwartz
I didn't say the balls and the dips, but do you want me to do that?
James Acaster
Well, I guess we have to ask.
Ben Schwartz
Okay, I guess then I would slowly lower myself into the series of dips you put in front of me. Like a double dare obstacle course. As you're asking. Well, work on my quads. Really get a good down. Like get really low squat.
Ed Gamble
Bamic.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah, that's good. Yeah. This is that. This is the podcast now.
Ed Gamble
This is genuinely is closer to what we normally do.
James Acaster
Yeah. Puns about bulls.
Ben Schwartz
That's great. That's great.
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James Acaster
Your dream starter.
Ben Schwartz
Okay, Dream starter. There's. Okay. I'm gonna name some restaurants that I went to also.
James Acaster
Yes, please.
Ben Schwartz
I feel like the specificity helps on this podcast because you two are very much into food. An appetizer I loved is this place in LA called Capo. It's Italian restaurant, and it's sweet corn ravioli. And it's just like a decadent, beautiful little way to start. And I'm. It's one of my favorite dishes ever in the universe.
James Acaster
It's just sweet corn in there.
Ben Schwartz
It's sweet. It's ravioli, sweet corn. Like an incredible sauce at a very fancy Italian place. Yes. This is dirty food. I can tell you the very disgusting, like, fast food places we go to, too. Wherever you want.
Ed Gamble
We want to hear about it all. But for your dream menu, you want to start with this.
Ben Schwartz
I want, like, three little pieces of sweet corn ravioli.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
I don't want to close my eyes when I eat them.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
You know what I mean? It's that type of. That type of sweet corn ravioli.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
You know what I mean?
Ed Gamble
Oh, yeah. I was just. Yeah. You're there thinking of all the different types of sweet corn ravioli. It's a nice shot one.
Ben Schwartz
It's an eyeshadow.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
A nice wide shuttle.
James Acaster
When people say, like, you know that that small portion of ravioli just makes you think of the first episode of Chef's Table.
Ben Schwartz
Okay.
James Acaster
Yeah. With the Italian chef whose name I now can't remember what happened in it. Well, they talk about how that says his. Like, one of his big dishes early on was these, like, three pieces, I think of Great. And. And how everyone in Italy was, like, absolutely appalled because you meant to have a full bowl, of course. And be eating that. Do you like having, like, the. The fruit? Do you savor them more when it's.
Ben Schwartz
I do. Do. I do. And also. Because then I just know. Because, you know, it's appetizer. If you have too many, then you're in a main course. We're already in a main course. And what is the genie done? We're like, not even there yet. Do you know what I mean?
James Acaster
Yeah, yeah.
Ben Schwartz
So that would be starter. I think that would be the starter. I love. I love a little thing. I love a little amuse bouche. What does that translate to, do you think?
Ed Gamble
Funny food, just like livening up the mouth.
Ben Schwartz
Is that true? Yeah, Amuse bush.
Ed Gamble
Amuse bush.
Ben Schwartz
Great.
Ed Gamble
Amuse.
Ben Schwartz
Amuse.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. Mouth, mouth, mouth. Wow. Just getting the mouth started.
Ben Schwartz
Seems like you're not sure.
James Acaster
I'm just.
Ben Schwartz
Do you trust?
James Acaster
I just still. I trust, but, like, I just always amazed at how clever edits.
Ben Schwartz
It's unbelievable.
James Acaster
I. I never really know. But you knew that, huh? I didn't know that.
Ben Schwartz
Do you know what appetizer?
James Acaster
Mighty Boosh. No.
Ben Schwartz
Mighty Boost is a TV show here. Used to be. Now you know that, right?
Ed Gamble
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know that, right?
Ben Schwartz
You didn't know that before?
James Acaster
Like, all I think of when I hear the music is mighty, Mighty Bush.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Producer
Okay.
James Acaster
That's all I think of.
Ben Schwartz
Okay, that makes sense.
James Acaster
Funny, surreal comedy.
Ben Schwartz
Do you guys. When you guys eat at home, do you watch tv or do you eat, not do anything?
Ed Gamble
I watch tv.
Ben Schwartz
You do?
Ed Gamble
Yeah, Yeah. I can't have a moment where I'm just.
Ben Schwartz
Is that true?
Ed Gamble
Do nothing? Yeah, yeah.
Ben Schwartz
Are you very bad at slowing down?
Ed Gamble
I'm bad at not having something else playing in the background.
Ben Schwartz
Why do you think that is? Same with you.
James Acaster
No, no, I. I can do it.
Ben Schwartz
You can be yourself.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
James is very Zen.
Ben Schwartz
Okay. Do you meditate and stuff? Is that where your zen comes from?
James Acaster
Do yoga.
Ben Schwartz
You do?
James Acaster
And try and, like, focus on my breathing during that. Sure.
Ben Schwartz
And then I love this.
James Acaster
Listen to.
Ben Schwartz
Do the listeners know?
Ed Gamble
I think it's been brought up before.
James Acaster
They know I do yoga and I watch ASMR videos to relax. Get called a perv by him.
Ben Schwartz
What type of asmr?
Ed Gamble
He finds it, like, sexually arousing.
James Acaster
I don't find it sexually aroused. He's always.
Ben Schwartz
He inserts. You look at his penis real quick. Ready?
Ed Gamble
Okay.
James Acaster
Oh, I'm getting a bonus.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah. You don't have to look at his penis. He's telling you. He's literally word for word.
Ed Gamble
That was the sound of James's dick, by the way.
Ben Schwartz
I didn't even start the ASMR yet. That was literally the sound of him getting hard.
James Acaster
It was inflated.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah, I'll tell. I'll start now.
Ed Gamble
Okay. Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
Oh, he's coming. Can I start? Can I start or no? I haven't even started the asmr. This is ludicrous.
Ed Gamble
Inflated. All the air came out.
Ben Schwartz
One final breath.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
Just all over the studio.
Ben Schwartz
When you're watching. When you're watching tv, do you watch something you've seen in the past or you're watching something new?
Ed Gamble
It depends. Like, if I've got something that I'm currently watching. Yeah, I'll be.
Ben Schwartz
What are you currently watching?
Ed Gamble
Well, I just finished a whole. A whole bunch of stuff.
Ben Schwartz
What does that mean?
James Acaster
He watches parts of record.
Ed Gamble
I just finished loads of. Loads of series that I was watching. So now I don't have anything new on the Go show.
Ben Schwartz
What was the last show you watched?
Ed Gamble
Penguin.
Ben Schwartz
Oh, how was that? Great, I bet.
Ed Gamble
Loved it.
Ben Schwartz
I bet.
Ed Gamble
But quite hectic. So, you know, you can't eat and enjoy the food and watch the penguin all at the same time. This is the podcast because every time. Every time I look up, I'm going, are you sure that's Colin?
Ben Schwartz
That's what I'm saying. If I'm eating something, I. I find it hard to. If I'm really in, like, entranced by what I'm watching, I find it that I'm always missing something whenever I go down to eat.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
You know what I mean?
Ed Gamble
Is that the style? I mean, obviously the lesson.
Ben Schwartz
That kind of. Bugs Bunny. Yeah. Where am I? Like, the fork goes like this.
Ed Gamble
Comfort shows are good when you're eating.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah. When I was. When I. When we all were watching DVDs, instead of having streaming, I had, like, all the Simpsons seasons, and I would go to bed watching them because I knew all the episodes so well that they were relaxing to me because I knew what all the lines were. And if it was something new that I was watching, I could never go to sleep because I really wanted to know what was going to happen, so I had to watch something that was coming. So I used to go to sleep to the Simpsons for years in bed.
James Acaster
Well, who's your favorite Simpsons character?
Ben Schwartz
Milhouse.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
Has to be.
James Acaster
You could play Millhouse.
Ben Schwartz
My voicemail is Milhouse.
James Acaster
Huh?
Ben Schwartz
My voicemail is Milhouse. I got the person. Pamela.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. As long as it's not you doing an impression.
Ben Schwartz
Do you want to hear it?
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
Hi, it's me, Taylor Swift. Wait, I wonder if I could.
James Acaster
If your impressions of people are, hi, it's me, and then a different name.
Ben Schwartz
Wouldn't they say that? They would say they're, oh, Milhouse. A little different.
James Acaster
Yeah. I love that your impression of Milhouse is high. It's me, Taylor Swift.
Ben Schwartz
Is this it? This would be it.
James Acaster
Think.
Ben Schwartz
Should we play it?
James Acaster
Yeah. Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
All right, here we go. God, it'd be really funny if it was Taylor Swift. Hey, Ben is in here. But guess what? Everything's coming up the Middle House. My voice for a decade now.
Ed Gamble
That's so good.
Ben Schwartz
Oh, my God.
James Acaster
I got Captain Barnacles to do a. A voice. Voice note for my nephew.
Ben Schwartz
Barnacles?
Ed Gamble
Yeah. Good question.
James Acaster
It was from the Octonauts.
Ben Schwartz
Oh, okay. That's beautiful. Oh, my God. I did this thing for. I did this thing for a show here in England, and I found out what I did was a huge deal for people that grew up with this character. I'm forgetting what it. I'm forgetting. It's a. It's a hugely famous kid show here.
James Acaster
Yes.
Ben Schwartz
And Sonic got a badge.
James Acaster
Blue Pizza.
Ben Schwartz
There it is. That's what it is.
Ed Gamble
Blue pizza.
Ben Schwartz
Sonic got a badge. And I told. I told people at home that were British that I was like, oh, I did this thing. Have you ever heard of. I got a badge and like, are you kidding me? You got a bag. I didn't get a badge. Sonic got a badge. He's like, that's unbelievable.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
I can't wait to see it.
James Acaster
When we were kids, that was the. You know, getting a Blue Peter badge.
Ben Schwartz
We're older right now.
Ed Gamble
We're cool dudes.
Ben Schwartz
Right?
Ed Gamble
You know what I mean?
Ben Schwartz
Yeah. We barely eat breakfast anymore, you know, I mean, we're so cool now.
James Acaster
Your dream main course.
Ben Schwartz
This was the problem. I find this to be the hardest part because there's so many different versions. There's a. I love sushi, and there's this place called Sushi Bar in LA that. The Omas is, like, the most incredible thing in the universe. I also love chicken. I'm gonna tell you things I didn't pick. Yeah, Chicken parmesan is, like. And my favorite, like, Italian dish.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
Cheeseburger. Anytime I go on the road, I always get a cheeseburger, fries, a barbecue sauce, and a ginger ale. That's my comfort food. Cheeseburger is my favorite thing to eat.
Ed Gamble
Where, like, is there a particular.
Ben Schwartz
It doesn't even matter. There's some. There's a place called Burgers. Never say Die. That's really good. But I'll eat any city I go to. I'll. That's like my. I'll go in the hotel. I'll get that. That. And it, like, makes me feel happy and home. But what I picked I'll go back to my email. Am I allowed to say omakase? I'll say omakase. Is that fine?
Ed Gamble
We're gonna have to get into it, though.
James Acaster
Why are you not allowed to say?
Ed Gamble
Because.
Ben Schwartz
Because it's so many different dishes. Is it really amazing?
Ed Gamble
Also, it takes. It takes the decision out of your hands because it's literally a chef.
Ben Schwartz
All I want.
Ed Gamble
It's a chef selection.
Ben Schwartz
Right. That's all I want. Whenever I go to a restaurant, I ask the waiter, I say, are you cool with. Even when I go, my guys, I go, go, is it cool if we just. We trust you? Just give us whatever the best things are. That's my favorite way of going out to eat. Yeah, always. I don't want to make. I love not making decisions.
Ed Gamble
But now what you're doing is you're asking for a high end sushi omakase from a genie.
Ben Schwartz
I'm leaving it in your hands. Yeah, but I don't like uni, if you don't mind.
James Acaster
Huh?
Ben Schwartz
I don't like uni. So what was your first course out of this? Let's say six. Six pieces of sushi. What are you gonna give me?
Ed Gamble
Oh, that's good. Okay, here we go.
Ben Schwartz
Make the genie work. He's so, like, he doesn't do anything.
James Acaster
Get your Hell's Kitchen from Sticks and Sushi.
Ben Schwartz
I don't know what that means.
Ed Gamble
There's a chain called Sticks and Sushi.
Ben Schwartz
Can you translate everything he says?
Ed Gamble
Absolutely. I have to do that for the majority of our North American guests, it's a chain called Sticks and Sushi. It's actually a Danish chain, I think.
Ben Schwartz
Oh, wow.
Ed Gamble
But Hell's Kitchen.
Ben Schwartz
And it's bad, I'm assuming?
James Acaster
No, no, it's good.
Ed Gamble
It's not authentic. I would say if you got it authentic, if you got it in a Japanese restaurant, you'd be like, this is crazy.
James Acaster
Right?
Ben Schwartz
I've never heard someone getting a Hell's Kitchen.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, yeah.
Ben Schwartz
It's not a thing that I've heard. I've been in many sushi restaurants. I've never said, sir, can I have a hel. Kitchen? Is that a roll?
James Acaster
Yeah, yeah. It's like.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. Yes, it is. Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
What's in it?
James Acaster
It's got like, like a tempura prawn in the middle and Help.
Ed Gamble
Tempura prawn.
James Acaster
Tempura prawn in the middle and then Tudor on the top and some little kind of sauce on the top.
Ed Gamble
Some little kind of sauce on the top.
James Acaster
Like, it's very nice. Rice.
Ed Gamble
It is. Very nice rice.
Ben Schwartz
A very nice rice.
James Acaster
I'll tell you what I would do.
Ben Schwartz
Thank you.
James Acaster
If you. It genuinely. So you have a very nice experience.
Ben Schwartz
Please.
James Acaster
So I went to Japan earlier this year for the first time.
Ben Schwartz
Keeps name dropping. All these countries he's been to. This is insane. This is unbelievable. Even the Hell's Kitchen, you're like, it's a Danish restaurant. Of course. We get it. You've been all over the world. Okay.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
So you went to Japan.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, I went to Japan, too.
Ben Schwartz
Oh, my God. But see, he doesn't like. He doesn't throw it in my face.
Ed Gamble
He gently.
Ben Schwartz
So we're going to Japan. I would love to go. I was obsessed with that Jiro Dreams of Sushi documentary. Oh, my God. God. It made me feel like. So it was amazing.
James Acaster
Maybe, like, maybe that could be your. We. We get you. We get Jiro. Get him in here and Jiro can make fun.
Ed Gamble
I'm not falling down that track.
Ben Schwartz
I figured it would just be a little woman saying hello.
James Acaster
Yeah, yeah. You just do.
Ed Gamble
Don't bring me out. I'm constantly worried in improv that people are trying to trap me.
Ben Schwartz
Really?
Ed Gamble
No, no, no. I don't do it.
James Acaster
Well, it's just that Ed's own brain. So, yeah, you wouldn't be worried in that situation, but Ed's own brain goes, be racist.
Ben Schwartz
Canceled. So in your head, if you allow yourself to really go nuts, you don't know what you'll say.
Ed Gamble
I only did improv once, but we were filming a show where I was in character and the other improvisers didn't know I was a character.
Ben Schwartz
Oh, like Ali G. I'm good.
Ed Gamble
Yes, yes. Like a gentle version.
Ben Schwartz
But what was your character?
James Acaster
Georgie Carlton.
Ed Gamble
Georgie Carlton.
Ben Schwartz
Excuse me, can I talk with Georgie Carlton?
Ed Gamble
No, he's not spoken for 10 years.
Ben Schwartz
Can I hear one word? Can I just hear what he sounds like?
Ed Gamble
It just sounds like a posher version of me.
Ben Schwartz
Can I hear him?
Ed Gamble
Yeah, that's him.
Ben Schwartz
Now this is posher.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, yeah, we did it.
Ben Schwartz
And let me hear you normal hello. And then you posh hello. Oh, yeah. It's a subtle little.
James Acaster
It's a subtle.
Ed Gamble
There's a reason I got the part, Ben, Right?
Ben Schwartz
It's like the salt bay. Just a little bit of like. Yeah, okay. God, I love that guy.
Ed Gamble
But I was very good at up an improv show.
Ben Schwartz
Okay. Saying no and saying that things aren't real.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, yeah.
Ben Schwartz
I would hate you.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, yeah.
Ben Schwartz
But if we did improv, I bet you would have. I would Take care of you and you have a great show.
Ed Gamble
Thank you very much.
Ben Schwartz
There you go. I think you guys would be great together.
James Acaster
Yeah. Yeah. I'd love to do the improv show.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
Great.
Ben Schwartz
Ben Schwartz and friends. Let's do it.
James Acaster
So we're gonna get Yujiro to come down.
Ben Schwartz
This is actually great.
James Acaster
And he can make your sushi for you. You're a makase.
Ed Gamble
Do you like the sort of fancy rolls with loads of things in it or do you like the really simple.
Ben Schwartz
Okay, so this place called Sushi Bar in la, it's in Encino. It's like in a little Speak Easy. By the way, I very rarely get to eat at these fancy places. I'm name dropping a lot of them just because this seems like what the show is, but it's like a little speakeasy. There's seven of us. It's like so fun. And they give you. You don't. There are no utensil. One piece of sushi on rice, but they put like different special sauces on it and it's just absolutely fantastic. So I like a clean piece of fish with a rice on it. But I love when they. I don't need a lot of stuff in a roll. I love when there's different sauces or if they like heat up something or something like that. I love that stuff. But I don't need like 20 things.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Let me tell you about this place that you might really like in the uk. I went last week.
Ben Schwartz
I need places for tonight. Tomorrow.
Ed Gamble
Well, this only happens on Saturday.
Ben Schwartz
Okay.
Ed Gamble
And it's in Notting Hill. In. It's a supermarket during the day. And then they turn it into a restaurant in the evening.
Ben Schwartz
I'm already obsessed with this. I love this.
Ed Gamble
And you arrive, it's one sitting. There's like 15 of you or whatever, and they go, welcome. They give you this little miso soup with lobster in it. That's the first thing.
Ben Schwartz
Wow.
Ed Gamble
And then they go, well, the tuna's arrived. And you all go out the front of the restaurant and there's a van out there.
Ben Schwartz
Oh, I've heard of this.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
And they open the back and a whole bluefin tuna is bringing in.
Ben Schwartz
I've seen video of this on the Internet.
Ed Gamble
It's slid onto a stretcher and they wheel it. It feels.
Ben Schwartz
People eat it fresh right off the thing.
Ed Gamble
Right.
Ben Schwartz
Have you done it?
Ed Gamble
Scoop of the thing and did it last week. Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
And how was it?
James Acaster
He sent me a photo. He sent me a photo of it. It looked like he had gone to some illegal underground videos are insane.
Ed Gamble
It's called Tuna Fight Club.
Ben Schwartz
No, it's not.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, it's called tuna.
James Acaster
Well, that is why it's called that.
Ben Schwartz
And is it. Was the tuna, like, incredible?
Ed Gamble
It was incredible.
Ben Schwartz
I'd be scared to eat it. That, like, I. I know that it's uncooked, but the idea of scooping it off.
Ed Gamble
They scoop it off the thing and just put it straight in a piece of nori and then brush some soy sauce over the top and then straight in. And that's different.
Ben Schwartz
Different than any.
Ed Gamble
It was just so fresh. It was mad. I mean, it. Look, it feels weird because you're all stood around this. It looks like you're watching an autopsy.
Ben Schwartz
I can't see the thing that. I mean, I can't see the thing that I'm eating. I can't see, like, if you show me a picture of a cow and then, like, point to what I'm eating and I'm eating this. I can't do it. Like, I went to a fan's restaurant that had like. Like, the chicken leg was still. Like, the claw.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, yeah.
Ben Schwartz
Was still there. I was like, oh, I. Then. Now I know what this whole thing is. It's too much for me. You have to. I have to remove that part.
Ed Gamble
So what's happening in your head when you're eating the food, when you can't see it, it. Then are you like, this is different.
Ben Schwartz
Oh, my God. It's from. I don't know where it's from. It could be from anywhere. I don't even know. Chicken. Where does this get. Where does this come from? This is crazy. Just appeared on my plate. Braised. Yeah.
James Acaster
Yeah. The photo that Ed sent me of Tuna Fight Club was like. They had, like, you know, knocked out a cow and just had it.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah.
James Acaster
On a. On a gurney.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah.
James Acaster
Some absolute thug was walking around it, just scooping bits off the cow and giving it to people and going, there's your burger.
Ed Gamble
The thing is, it was delicious, but it did. It does make you go, oh, this is tough. This whole thing is.
Ben Schwartz
What else do you eat? Or is it. Now they cut the tuna.
Ed Gamble
It's like a whole, like, tasting menu, and you just get loads with that one.
Ben Schwartz
Big.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. And that you get loads of, like, the. The really fatty bits. Like, do people.
Ben Schwartz
When you go and eat. And this is a real question. I know that you're. You're humble people and you won't talk about this, but when you go to restaurants, they know you do this podcast do you get treated a little bit differently at restaurants because they know you'll probably talk about them sometimes. Give me an example of the most crazy version of.
James Acaster
I can always tell a little bit. When they ask at the top if you want still or sparkling water, you see a little glint in their eye.
Ben Schwartz
That's. Every restaurant says that.
James Acaster
Yeah, but that's the thing.
Ed Gamble
But they'll do it in a certain way.
James Acaster
So you can tell if they don't. It's.
Ben Schwartz
Give it to me in the special one.
James Acaster
They don't listen to the podcast. Right. And do you want still the sparkling mortar at the top? Okay.
Ben Schwartz
That's normal. They don't know who you're on.
James Acaster
This is if they listen to the podcast. Do you want still the sparkling water for podcast listeners?
Ben Schwartz
You can't see, but there was tongues and cheese.
Ed Gamble
It was really good.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah. Yeah, that was really good.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah, I get it. Right.
James Acaster
Okay.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
Okay. This person knows. And then they might, you know, we've spoke about it on the podcast before. They might send over an extra little dish or something. This is very nice.
Ben Schwartz
Will they ever pay for your meal?
James Acaster
Sometimes they'll try to. And you'll like. Sometimes there are restaurants that we have shouted out on the podcast.
Ben Schwartz
Yes.
Ed Gamble
Will invite us.
Ben Schwartz
Tuna Fight Club now.
James Acaster
And then you might go in and then have to kind of, you know, wrestle with them to let you pay.
Ben Schwartz
Right.
James Acaster
Because we like to. I'm sure you're the same.
Ed Gamble
He means it as well. He wrestles with them.
James Acaster
Yeah. I'll be like, get on the floor. We're wrestling.
Ben Schwartz
Wow. So ASMR and wrestling with random waiters are like your two things.
James Acaster
But it's ASMR wrestling as well.
Ben Schwartz
ASMR wrestler is very quiet wrestling.
Ed Gamble
Very quiet wrestling. You both sit on the floor and just whisper what you would do to each other if you were wrestling.
Ben Schwartz
Oh, that's great.
James Acaster
I got you.
Ben Schwartz
That's great. I got you. That's really cute. I like that a lot, actually.
James Acaster
It's a stone cold stunner.
Ben Schwartz
Oh, wow. You went from a regular headlock to a full WWF move.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. That's a short match as well.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
By the way, we're done because no one's kicking out the Stunner.
Ben Schwartz
No, that's it. What happens after the stunner?
Ed Gamble
That's a protected move.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah, that's true. Once you're. That's it. That's your finishing move. That's your finish. Finish him in Mortal Kombat.
James Acaster
Yeah. Would you like to do a stone cold stunner? On Stone Cold Steve Austin.
Ben Schwartz
Is this what the show is?
Ed Gamble
That's a valid question because James asked that question.
Ben Schwartz
So you know what? I wouldn't. I wouldn't. But I would love to. I would love to perform a finishing move in a wrestling match. I feel like. And have it and be able to name it and. And, like, establish it as. There is something when. One of the things that, you know, like how wrestlers, when they come out, they come out to the same song, and so you'll hear it like, did you guys watch wrestling when you're younger?
Ed Gamble
Yes.
Ben Schwartz
Okay. Like, when the. Under. And now, of course. Of course, I did a movie with John cen. I got to ask him all these questions about wrestling, which was so fun. But so, like, when the Undertaker comes out, the first thing is. And like, if you watch one of those matches, the second that first. The first note of the bell comes out, the crowd goes crazy. And so I love the idea of training, you know, people's brains to be, like. When you hear the song, whatever. So for improv, we always pick the same intro song to come out to. I don't know if you do that when you guys come out. So I have, like, the same song. If different groups have different songs. Songs. Because I love the idea, like, when you hear this song. Oh, we're gonna get. These people are about to come out.
Ed Gamble
Nice.
Ben Schwartz
And I got that from wrestling. I was like, oh, how cool.
Ed Gamble
Do you have a sound effect and then the song kicks in?
Ben Schwartz
No, just the song starts because the sound effects.
Ed Gamble
Like the Undertaker, obviously.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Stone Cold Steve Austin has glass smashing.
Ben Schwartz
Oh, yeah, that's true.
Ed Gamble
So they go wild for it.
James Acaster
You can have this.
Ben Schwartz
What is the rock?
Ed Gamble
If you smell what the rock is cooking, it's just him shouting it.
Ben Schwartz
Right?
Ed Gamble
Yeah, but it's a different. It's different.
Ben Schwartz
How many other ones can we think of? What did. What did you. Jake Dibiasi. No, that's not his name.
Ed Gamble
Ted Dib.
James Acaster
What have.
Ed Gamble
It's just music, but it's just recognizable music.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
There's no noise.
Ben Schwartz
Exciting. What's the theme song to this? Can you sing it off menu?
James Acaster
Get ready to eat some food. Coming on. One day. Oh, it's this day.
Ben Schwartz
So your theme song always talks about me. Today's the day that it pays off.
Ed Gamble
So we're gonna have to change it now.
Ben Schwartz
Oh, my God. Now you gotta change the tune.
Ed Gamble
Remember when Ben was on here?
Ben Schwartz
Yeah, that's great for anybody. I love that.
James Acaster
Yeah. Pretty good.
Ben Schwartz
Did you guys sing the theme song or. That's yeah. Wow. Spare no expense.
James Acaster
Yeah. I sang it. Ed didn't want to sing it because he's afraid that if he had to improvise lyrics, it'd be racist.
Ben Schwartz
I heard the first take of Ed's version was very unbeat. You would get canceled in a hurry. In a hurry. You would get canceled.
James Acaster
Yeah. By me. Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
Of course.
James Acaster
I try to cancel Ed many times.
Ben Schwartz
You want to be solo. We know you've been trying to get solo.
Ed Gamble
Imagine this solo.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah, yeah.
James Acaster
Imagine.
Ed Gamble
Imagine. Imagine this without the translator here.
Ben Schwartz
It'd be tough.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
It would just be a genie. It'd just be mayhem.
James Acaster
Yeah, yeah. Not in the UN without translators. Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
It'd be impossible.
James Acaster
People yelling at different on fire within seconds.
Ben Schwartz
People are making points, but nobody can understand each other. Do you know what I mean?
James Acaster
Yeah, yeah, I get it.
Ben Schwartz
Thank God you're here.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. You're welcome.
Ben Schwartz
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James Acaster
Your dream side dish.
Ben Schwartz
That's where Khan comes in. I wrote it down. Okay. So side dish is crispy. Okay. Okra from Khan in Portland. That's Where. Okay, so Khan is. I think it's a Haitian menu, but it was like one of those other things also where when we ate there, after we ate there, we're like, oh, my God. This is the. We'll say. I'll say top five meal. But I have like 100 places. I say for, but I'll say top five. This is one of my favorite meals I've ever eaten my life. But I also think part of the fun is, like, the people you're around and stuff like that. But that especially that side dish was amazing. And I never really had okra before. It was amazing.
James Acaster
I love it. Especially that crispy Jim Carner here, here for a while, did a crispy okra. And I.
Ben Schwartz
So good.
James Acaster
Was so. Yeah. So addicted to it. And then went once and it wasn't on the menu anymore. And I very. Did the kind of like, sad. Do you not do it anymore?
Ben Schwartz
And then they bought it out. Wow.
Ed Gamble
That's the sort of privilege this podcast gets you.
Ben Schwartz
You invent.
James Acaster
They didn't know who I was. I was with someone more famous.
Ben Schwartz
Who were the person you're with?
James Acaster
J.
Ben Schwartz
Was he dreaming of sushi?
James Acaster
He was.
Ben Schwartz
Are you serious?
Ed Gamble
They brought him some sushi out.
Ben Schwartz
Oh, that's smart.
Ed Gamble
He went, excuse me.
James Acaster
Sushi. Jesse J. Taylor Swift.
Ben Schwartz
And it sounded a little something like this. Hi. Hi. Hi. Hi, Jiro. Hey. That's kind of how it went, right?
James Acaster
All of the Spice Girls.
Ben Schwartz
All the Spice Girls are there. Do you want to hear them?
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
Tell me which one. I am ready, Sporty.
James Acaster
Sorry. Tell. You got to wait.
Ben Schwartz
You got to wait. Are you ready? I'm going to say hi. As each Spice Girl. Tell me which one. Ready?
James Acaster
Hi, baby.
Ben Schwartz
Correct. Ready.
James Acaster
Hi, Posh.
Ben Schwartz
Correct. Ready? Hi.
Ed Gamble
Jerry Halliwell.
Ben Schwartz
Correct. Last one. Hi.
James Acaster
Scary.
Ben Schwartz
There you go.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
Are we missing any sporty?
James Acaster
Hi. Hi.
Ben Schwartz
God, they're all here. Fans. Were you growing up?
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
Were boy bands big here?
James Acaster
Yeah. Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
Where were your boy bands?
Ed Gamble
I mean, we had all the American ones, obviously.
James Acaster
We had NSync and people like that. But there was always so boyzone here.
Ben Schwartz
Boyzone?
Ed Gamble
I've heard of boys, Boyzone, Westlife. A lot of Irish boy bands here.
James Acaster
Oh, wow.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
Are both you from. Where are you. Where do you grow up?
James Acaster
I'm from a town called Ketvin in the middle of the country. England.
Ben Schwartz
Okay.
Ed Gamble
London.
Ben Schwartz
Wow.
James Acaster
London born and bred.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
Wow.
Ben Schwartz
But Wimbledon, so is that a fancy.
Ed Gamble
Fancy, fancy part of London?
Ben Schwartz
Did you go to Wimbledon quite a bit?
Ed Gamble
No. Never. Never went to the tennis tournament.
Ben Schwartz
Really?
Ed Gamble
Yeah, over there.
Ben Schwartz
We should get him over there.
James Acaster
We should get him over there.
Ben Schwartz
Yes.
James Acaster
Can't believe you've not been. You'd love the strawberries and cream. You'd a foodie.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
You'd probably be racist on the court, though.
James Acaster
Yeah, that would be a shame.
Ben Schwartz
Be shame. That'd be game over for you.
Ed Gamble
No, I'd fit in. Have you seen that place? No.
James Acaster
Is it that they make it look like a commoner?
Ben Schwartz
Okay, well, now you can't. Now you can't go to Wimbledon. You just screw that up for yourself. I'm not on it. I want to go to Wimbledon.
James Acaster
Wimbledon is like full of people from Saltburn.
Ben Schwartz
I hadn't seen Saltburn. I just know he drinks bath water. Is that the whole thing?
James Acaster
Well, not.
Ed Gamble
Well, the bath water is the least.
James Acaster
That's not the headline.
Ed Gamble
No.
James Acaster
I'd say in that mouthful, the bath water is the thing that most people would be okay with.
Ben Schwartz
What happens in the bath?
Ed Gamble
He drinks a guy's jizz out the bath.
Ben Schwartz
Is that true?
Ed Gamble
Yeah, that's why it's. The bath water is like, oh, that's a bit weird.
Ben Schwartz
This is so different.
Ed Gamble
But he sucks all the jizz out the plug hole.
James Acaster
So someone just told you this is 100% the show.
Ben Schwartz
This is 100% the show?
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
Sucking the. You just said sucking the jizz out of the bathwater.
James Acaster
The plug hole. Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
So that means it's floating.
James Acaster
You kind of don't see it floating.
Ed Gamble
It's more inferred. It's classic.
James Acaster
You know, it's in there.
Ben Schwartz
Oh, okay. Okay.
James Acaster
So we had him on the podcast.
Ben Schwartz
You want to give him a call?
James Acaster
Bring.
Ben Schwartz
Sorry, that wasn't even me doing anything. You were getting hard again.
James Acaster
I mean, we haven't asked you your dream drink yet and it is time to change it if you want.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
You know, it's funny when I go. When I go out in England, I really, if I have a chance to, I try to have some jizz bath water. I usually get a gin and tonic when I'm here because it feels like what I'm supposed to get. Yeah. Gin, tonic. I don't know why. Yeah. But an old J and tonic or an old old Fashioned. I like an old fashioned. But what I usually do is I look at old fashioned jizz. Of course, this is what the show is.
James Acaster
I can't believe. Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
Old fashioned bath water. Jizz out of a jug.
James Acaster
Where you go.
Ben Schwartz
Bathroom, make bathroom whiskey, bathtub jiz. I also often times like to look at a cocktail list and Find like, I like a fruity beverage with a lot of fruit. Stuff like that.
James Acaster
We both decided to leave cocktails too easy.
Ben Schwartz
I know. I try to help you guys out.
Ed Gamble
So you're. You. You are a cocktail guy.
Ben Schwartz
I like a cocktail, but I don't drink very much.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah. So. But I'll have a. Last night, we had a cocktail after dinner.
Ed Gamble
What do you have?
Ben Schwartz
I don't even know. Something. It had charcoal in it. I don't know. It was like some. It had like. I like. Like. It had ginger beer. It had some, like, two spirits in it. I like a little beverage that tastes sweet.
Ed Gamble
Nice.
James Acaster
I know you got sweet tooth.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah. Love dessert.
James Acaster
Great. Can't wait.
Ben Schwartz
We're not there yet.
James Acaster
No, but I'm a. I'm a big dessert fan. It's just nice for me to know.
Ben Schwartz
That I love a dessert.
James Acaster
That we're heading to a good place.
Ed Gamble
James likes. He likes to feel safe to know that the guest is going to pick something sweet for dessert.
Ben Schwartz
I don't trust people who don't eat dessert.
James Acaster
Yeah, me too.
Ben Schwartz
Do you eat dessert, Ed? No.
Ed Gamble
I do eat dessert.
James Acaster
Sometimes. He gets cheese and biscuits instead of a proper dessert.
Ben Schwartz
Dessert.
James Acaster
Yeah, exactly.
Ed Gamble
I don't think that's in the. It's in the space where dessert would be.
Ben Schwartz
No, it's a fake to make you feel good about yourself, because that's not. I agree that it's not dessert.
Ed Gamble
I never feel good about myself afterwards.
Ben Schwartz
Is that true? Then why do you get it?
Ed Gamble
Well, it's delicious.
Ben Schwartz
If you're going to be naughty, what are you going to get?
Ed Gamble
I mean, cheese is not well behaved.
Ben Schwartz
Oh, God, that's you being crazy.
Ed Gamble
Cheese is not well behaved.
Ben Schwartz
Ben, how sharp is that cheddar?
Ed Gamble
It gets pretty sharp. And you can get creamy.
Ben Schwartz
Do you like a smelly cheese?
Ed Gamble
I love a smell.
Ben Schwartz
You got to try this bathwater stuff. Yeah, you're going to love it.
James Acaster
Shot that.
Ed Gamble
No, I get. I get dessert as well.
Ben Schwartz
Barely. You know we know he's not involved in.
James Acaster
Right.
Ben Schwartz
Ed is barely around for this. Are you embarrassed when everybody gets dessert? It's a real question. No, you're fine.
Ed Gamble
What if I get cheese and everyone gets dessert?
Ben Schwartz
Or like, everybody's gonna get dessert. You're like, g. Now I gotta tell everybody I don't get dessert.
Ed Gamble
Sometimes I do get dessert. Or sometimes I'll get, like. I'll get an espresso martini instead of dessert.
Ben Schwartz
That's not dessert. That's a beverage.
James Acaster
But he loves it when people Thick.
Ed Gamble
It's bath water.
James Acaster
He loves it when everyone's got dessert and he's there with a cheese board. He feels better.
Ben Schwartz
You feel better. Of course.
James Acaster
The ape. The king.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah. And then you feel like you didn't gain as much weight as everybody else. No, no, no.
Ed Gamble
It's not. Is it cheese? Cheese. Come on.
Ben Schwartz
I guess there's a bunch of fat in there. It's.
Ed Gamble
It's luxurious.
Ben Schwartz
Afraid that big cheese is going to take you down. You're really defending cheese.
Ed Gamble
Shout out to cheese.
Ben Schwartz
Shout out to cheese. See if you got some free samples or something. Shout out to cheese.
Ed Gamble
I'd love some free samples of cheese.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah. No.
James Acaster
Your dream drink will come at the end of the meal probably. Or I get a drink at the.
Ben Schwartz
Beginning and then I'll finish near the end.
James Acaster
So what would you like at the beginning? What would you like at the end?
Ben Schwartz
I'd probably take an Old Fashioned, then a gin and tonic taste. But I usually like to look at other people's cocktail lists and the funny name games and I'll pick like a fun cocktail or a tequila drink. I love a little margarita every now and then. Yeah. Margarita. Come on. Salt on the rim. Come on.
James Acaster
Oh yeah.
Ben Schwartz
Are we not having fun when you're.
James Acaster
When you're.
Ben Schwartz
Are you not entertained?
James Acaster
I'm entertained, yeah. Great. Does he say it too as well?
Ben Schwartz
I don't know. I hope maybe they are. Surely they don't have to. They don't.
James Acaster
Doesn't say it say any other catchphrases? Smoking.
Ben Schwartz
I think he says smoking. I said I. I'm almost certain that Pedro Pascal says somebody stop me. Yeah, I think I'm not 100. Sure.
Ed Gamble
I would truly be my favorite if that happened.
James Acaster
Great. If they're all just saying like Jim Carrey catchphrase. Denzel's like, oh, out of there.
Ben Schwartz
That'd be great. Out of his.
James Acaster
It's too great. I was wondering if they know why they got that. Be great.
Ben Schwartz
It'd be fantastic.
Ed Gamble
Cuz there's like animals in Gladiator 2. Like. Right? Big wild animals. Seen.
Ben Schwartz
It is a great. I can't wait to see it.
Ed Gamble
Apparently crawling out of a rhino's butthole at the beginning.
Ben Schwartz
Kind of hot, these rhinos. One of my favorite lines. Yeah, the other one. One of my favorite lines. Also Jim Carrey who's in Sonic. One of my favorite lines in any movie is in Dumb and Dumber the Beat when he's still the limo driver and he's just dropped off the. Was it Swanson? No. What's it. What's her Name in it.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
Mar and Drops. And he's driving and he looks and he goes, goodbye, my love. Then he gets her an accident. The Goodbye my Love is one of my favorite, like, not famous Jim Carolines. And also the other one in Dumb and Dumber is our pets.
James Acaster
Heads are falling off. We were talking before you got here about, oh, two guns.
Ben Schwartz
He threw out two guns. James threw out two guns. You can see that in this camera.
Ed Gamble
Two guns. Gunpow cameras.
Ben Schwartz
All right, let's see what happened.
James Acaster
We were saying that we record. So Benito was on a flight recently.
Ben Schwartz
Mrs. Benito there. Ben.
James Acaster
And he watched Dumb and Dumber with the sound of off.
Ben Schwartz
Was it still amazing?
James Acaster
And could. Because he knows it off by heart.
Ed Gamble
Ben's got the sound off.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah.
James Acaster
So he was able to just like he's watched it so many times.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
And we were saying that we think we could do that as well.
Ed Gamble
I used to be able to. I don't think I could do it now, but me and my friend could do the whole film to each other of all time. It's. It's a real stunner.
Ben Schwartz
I think it might be my favorite comedy and one of my favorite movies all. Back to the Future is my favorite movie. I think Dumb and Dumb be right after it.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
I think we might have a similar top five. Those two certainly in there. Okay, ready now. Now I'm under pressure because I want to get it right.
Ben Schwartz
Yours is probably American History X.
James Acaster
Oh, no.
Ed Gamble
Never to cut all that stuff to build up. But that was a really good call back.
James Acaster
Never seen the last 10 minutes.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah. Mine is Back to the Future. I think Back to the Future for me is the best movie ever made for me. It hit me at a time where I was like, this is what movies are. And I got so excited. Shaw Shank Redemption is in my top five.
James Acaster
Yes. Great.
Ben Schwartz
I'm not going to throw you any curveball. I feel like, you know, when people do letterbox, they're like, there's a French film you've never heard about. A. A tiny tack inside a young woman's shoe. And it's filmed just in black and white. It's the POV of the tech. And I'm like, I literally.
James Acaster
I'm.
Ben Schwartz
If we have to do that for Sonic, Mine is going to be Back to the Future, Shawshank Redemption. Dumb and Dumber.
Ed Gamble
Is that going to be you in the Criterion Closet, desperately searching the shelves going.
James Acaster
Do you guys have Big Daddy?
Ben Schwartz
I'm looking through the bees. Big trouble, Little China. I see. I would do I would do an animated movie. Either Upper Aladdin, probably one of those two. And then what will be my fifth? There has to be a great one. I'll figure it out. There's a lot of movies now that, like, I'll rewatch now that I like. Jurassic Park I still think is one.
James Acaster
Of the best movies.
Ben Schwartz
Big. One of the best movies ever made.
Ed Gamble
That is an honest. See, that is just like, straight down the line.
Ben Schwartz
I'm not trying to. I'm not trying to impress you with that. I've seen a French film.
Ed Gamble
Ye.
Ben Schwartz
I've seen a few of them, but. Yeah. What are your top? Or give me the top three, then five is too hard.
James Acaster
I think I did. I did the letterbox thing once.
Ben Schwartz
Oh, great.
James Acaster
I said Spinal Tap.
Ben Schwartz
Great movie. You know they made a sequel.
James Acaster
Yes. Yeah. I'm looking forward to seeing that.
Ben Schwartz
Can't wait.
James Acaster
I said Eternal Sunshine.
Ben Schwartz
Oh, unbelievable movie. You definitely did one that you're ashamed of.
Ed Gamble
School of Rock.
James Acaster
I know I would have done. Oh, should have said School of.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. School of Rocks in my top.
Ben Schwartz
Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.
James Acaster
It's. It's a perfect film.
Ben Schwartz
Rob Reiner, by the way, I think has one of the best, best directing movies in a row. Streaks ever. And eclectic. It was like Spinal Tap, then it was Princess Bride, then it was like A Few Good Men, American President, Misery. All different genres. All incredible film. I don't think any other filmmaker has done in a row. Such an eclectic. Although I guess Spielberg did like Schindler's List and Jurassic park in the same year. That's crazy, isn't it? Can you imagine that your dad can't even drink water. Isn't that insane? Spielberg did Schindler's List and Jurassic park in the same year. And your dad can't drink water without plugging up his nose. Isn't that insane?
James Acaster
Two very different men, Spielberg and my.
Ed Gamble
Dad, they both have different strengths.
Ben Schwartz
No, no.
James Acaster
Do you think Spielberg ever, like, got it mixed up in his head which film he was directing?
Ben Schwartz
Yeah, I think. I think. Yeah. I think there must be moments. Of course.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah. Do Lun was Dolph Lunger in Shin. There's this. I forget.
James Acaster
Yeah, yeah, he was. He was the. Like, off screen. They talked about him a lot. I think the.
Ben Schwartz
Dolph.
James Acaster
You said a lot.
Ben Schwartz
Okay, wait, what's your three? So you said one of the.
Ed Gamble
I think I. I think if we're going. Yeah. Back to the Future, Dumb and Dumber. And School of Rock would be very Sensensible.
James Acaster
Great.
Ed Gamble
Top three. For me to say Right now? Yeah.
James Acaster
Why would my dad survive quite long in Jurassic park, though?
Ed Gamble
Oh, good question.
Ben Schwartz
Well, okay. Why would James's father survive quite long in Jurassic Park?
James Acaster
Yeah. Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
Okay. Okay. Not a lot of drinking water, I guess.
James Acaster
Yes, exactly.
Ben Schwartz
Oh, because the water shakes. Is that weird?
Ed Gamble
So if he's not drinking the water, he can see whenever the dinosaurs.
James Acaster
Everyone else is drinking. Everyone else is drinking the water.
Ben Schwartz
So. So he constantly has. It's like signs, the movie signs, where there's like the constantly full glasses of water everywhere so we can always hear the dinosaurs. It's a great line.
James Acaster
What else?
Ben Schwartz
Man, that's a slow burn. But when you get it. That's unbelievable.
Ed Gamble
Have you considered he might be one of the aliens from Signs? That's why he's so neck.
James Acaster
You can't drink the water. Yeah, yeah.
Ben Schwartz
Also, he must not be able to watch Saltburn. There's too much water in that.
James Acaster
He would be like, get rid of that water. Just hand me the jizz. Yeah. Cut the ch.
Ben Schwartz
No chaser. No chaser. Just give me that creamy white.
Ed Gamble
I can't wait for the chat after this episode where you go. You're going to have to cut that bit.
James Acaster
No, we're leaving it all in. And I'm. I'm looking forward to the text messages from my mother who listens to every episode.
Ben Schwartz
I haven't met either one of your parents, but I'm assuming they're wonderful people.
James Acaster
They are.
Ben Schwartz
Do you want to call your dad.
James Acaster
On the phone real quick?
Ben Schwartz
Hi. Hello.
James Acaster
Here d. We arrive at your dream dessert, Ben.
Ben Schwartz
Oh, this is easy. I love a classic Sunday ice cream sundae. I want either cookies and cream ice cream or vanilla ice cream. I want chocolate syrup. I want marshmallow. Syrupy thing. I want a cherry on top. I want nuts. I'm lactose intolerant and it is one of my favorite things to eat. Even then.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, but you take a little pill.
Ben Schwartz
I don't. I just get punished. I punished. I'm destroyed after.
James Acaster
Are you drinking? Are you, like, eating it on the toilet?
Ben Schwartz
Yes. There's no middleman. Yeah, it goes. It goes down. It's like an X ray of watching the.
Ed Gamble
No middleman would just be tipping the whole thing down the toilet.
Ben Schwartz
That's correct.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
Just throwing it in there. I guess you're right.
James Acaster
You are the middleman.
Ben Schwartz
I am the middleman. But aren't we all middlemen?
Ed Gamble
We are.
Ben Schwartz
You know What I mean? 20, 25. We're all vessels for. You know. But I think that would. That would probably be it.
James Acaster
That's that's delicious. I mean, I always feel quite nostalgic. Ice cream sundaes, amazing. Remember when you're a kid, you're excited.
Ben Schwartz
I love that. Same. A lot of dishes. It's almost like a ratatouille. Know when he eats ratatouille and he's like, I. That's what cheeseburgers are to me. That's what all those. A lot of those dishes just bring me back. Because when I was younger, we didn't go out to eat very often. And now that I'm able to do it a little bit more, it's like me having new experiences. These tasting menus or anything like that is such a new thing. I didn't try sushi till I was like, almost graduated college. And I was like, what is that? What is this? And then slowly, you know, when you start off as comedians, you have no money. So I'm eating fast food all timer pizza from New York, all, all the time. And then slowly, when I was able to afford real meals, that, whatever. Then I. That's why it's like, still new and exciting anytime we go to these restaurants, stuff like that. That's why I want to try them out while I can.
Ed Gamble
How do you feel about, like, crazy Sundays? You know, when they, like, go completely over the top? There's like the freak shakes and all of that stuff.
Ben Schwartz
Oh, too much. I know.
Ed Gamble
Spilling over the sides.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah. First of all, I don't like. I don't love a mess. I don't need. I don't need it to be a mess.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
But I. I love having a sip of that, but can't do it if it's too, too much going. Going on. I feel like I'm not tasting it. That's why with Sunday, I get to choose. I put my spoon and I'm really choosing how much of each ingredient. I want heaven.
James Acaster
Are you a banana split fan?
Ben Schwartz
Not really. I love bananas. Don't love a banana split. What do we think about that?
James Acaster
It's curious.
Ed Gamble
You just like the purity of the banana, I guess.
Ben Schwartz
Oh, yeah. I just don't want anybody to hurt that banana. Yeah, I love the banana. But a little treat that we do when we're filming is banana with peanut butter and honey. That's one of my little treats when we're filming, if I'm trying not to eat too much and get two bloated.
James Acaster
When we say we, it sounds like someone's making that for you.
Ben Schwartz
Just like me, the rock, your dad, Charlie xox, Jesse J, Katy Perry, Charlie xcx. Taylor Swift.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, she's.
Ben Schwartz
There you go.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
You want to end by doing an improv scene.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, yeah. That's the right thing to say, isn't it?
Ben Schwartz
You have to say, yeah, yeah. Well, is there more before I know you?
James Acaster
The two of you in an ice cream parlor.
Ben Schwartz
Well, this is. You can't set it up.
James Acaster
What? Isn't that how you do it?
Ben Schwartz
That's short form. Give me a suggestion. Any word and I'll start off.
Ed Gamble
Are we not doing short form? We're doing.
Ben Schwartz
No, willing. We're doing an hourly long form. Yeah, okay, but we'll do a scene.
Ed Gamble
We used to do an improv thing when we did the off menu tour where it's Shrek Prov, where James pretends to be Shrek and then I get suggestions from the audience and he has the improv as seen as Shrek.
James Acaster
Yes.
Ben Schwartz
Okay.
Ed Gamble
But that was normally ended with Shrek wanking.
James Acaster
Right? Yeah. Every time Edward said, that's on you though, right? What kind of a mood is Shrek in? And they would say, say horny.
Ben Schwartz
Okay, but can't you say, well, we want another. Give me a different one.
Ed Gamble
No, because I'm. I'm in control.
Ben Schwartz
So you always make.
James Acaster
Yeah, yeah. I've always got to be Shrek. Yeah. Yeah. Beating it.
Ben Schwartz
Unbelievable.
James Acaster
Yeah. Sorry. You guys are doing it. We don't have to.
Ben Schwartz
We don't have to.
Ed Gamble
I'm up for it. Ben.
Ben Schwartz
What? Okay, so what I do in my shows for. We do it improv for an hour and a half on stage, Me and three people. We won't do it here, but basically what happens is I interview an audience member. I just ask someone, what's the most exciting day or night or your life? And they tell me a story about the most exciting day or night of life. And we use that as inspiration to make an hour and a half show.
Ed Gamble
Wow.
Ben Schwartz
But anyway, so we wouldn't ask for like, give me a place, whatever. We just wanted to talk to you, learn about that person or learn about that story and go. So for you and I, if you want to do a scene for real. Do you want to do a scene?
Ed Gamble
Oh, you're saying for real. I was deliberately going to ruin it immediately.
James Acaster
No, you can't.
Ben Schwartz
Do you want to try one?
James Acaster
You got to do it.
Ed Gamble
Sure.
James Acaster
You got to do it.
Ben Schwartz
Do you want to try one?
Ed Gamble
Yeah. Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
Don't try to say no to it. Like when we're in it. Don't make it bad on purpose.
Ed Gamble
Okay.
James Acaster
Okay.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
So James, give us, I guess or just, just like tell me, tell me something. Tell me if something interesting that's happened during the past couple days, anything that, that, that felt a little unique in the past few days.
James Acaster
Unique?
Ben Schwartz
Yeah. Or interesting or fun or anything.
James Acaster
Because it's just a. I went to see a band last night. Play.
Ben Schwartz
Which band?
James Acaster
You said Great gig. Super Milk.
Ben Schwartz
Super Milk.
James Acaster
And then.
Ben Schwartz
Are you big fans of. What type of music is Super Milk?
James Acaster
They're a rock band. Like a punk rock band. And I. I've only just bought their album. Very catchy. Punk music. Ed's wife is in the band.
Ben Schwartz
Is that true?
Ed Gamble
That's true.
Ben Schwartz
Wait, hold up. So your wife is in the. So you were at that concert as well?
Ed Gamble
I was.
Ben Schwartz
Okay.
Ed Gamble
Is that gonna make the improv scene harder?
Ben Schwartz
No, it's gonna make it easier. That's gonna be. That's gonna be incredible.
James Acaster
And the security guard, there's a problem at the gigs.
Ben Schwartz
Oh shit, here we go. Keep going. Never mind, James, keep going.
James Acaster
The security guard kept on ID and everyone. Even though everyone was clearly over 40.
Ben Schwartz
We can make that. I was gonna make it about something else, but we can just make about that instead of putting your wife in this improv, which probably weird for you.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, yeah.
Ben Schwartz
Can I see your ID please?
Ed Gamble
I. Sorry, I don't carry.
Ben Schwartz
You don't carry it. How am I supposed to know you're 21 years old?
Ed Gamble
Well, I. I've never really been asked that before. Cuz I look awful.
Ben Schwartz
What are you talking about you look awful? You look. You look beaten up and ruined. I don't know how old you could be. I had this like 10 year old kid try to come in the other day. It was two 10 year olds in a trench coat try to come in here. They looked awful. Let me see your ID.
Ed Gamble
Well, I'm not too, I'm not too. 10 year olds.
James Acaster
Can I, can I, can I just leap in here now? Is Ed constantly refusing to show you his idea problem? No, he's saying yes. Improv. Is he saying yes?
Ben Schwartz
In my head he's saying yes to the game. In my head he's saying yes.
Ed Gamble
If I just show the idea, then that's the end of the game, right?
Ben Schwartz
Could be. I'd find a way to keep. I'd find a way to keep you there. Either way, I'd keep you in the scene.
James Acaster
Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
But this is great. Now the game of the scene, in my head, the game of the scene is that he can't show me identification. He's going to keep trying to get in Any way he can. And I'm going to keep trying to get it.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
So we could put. Play this game for maybe 20 minutes.
James Acaster
Ben saying there's four minutes, but we.
Ben Schwartz
Only have four minutes.
James Acaster
I kind of throw this in there.
Ben Schwartz
Don't you guys have to ask a question here?
Ed Gamble
Do the audience members normally get involved and say, is this going to be a problem for the scene?
Ben Schwartz
Especially when you were doing something?
James Acaster
Well, no, I didn't feel like he was.
Ben Schwartz
James just wanted to be involved in the scene.
James Acaster
Both of you feel horny, by the way.
Ben Schwartz
Sorry. Your idea, the picture and your ID looks really fucking hot. My God. It says likes. Dislikes, water, bath, water.
Ed Gamble
It.
Ben Schwartz
Is that what you want, James? Yeah. We just start. Carry on. Asmr.
Ed Gamble
ASM improv is a good idea.
Ben Schwartz
ASM improv is great.
Ed Gamble
You can do a couple of hours of that.
Ben Schwartz
Can we get a suggestion, please? Good. I heard. I heard church. Hello, priest. How are you?
James Acaster
Very well.
Ben Schwartz
How are you? Oh, my God. I'm doing so well. That's good. I think that works for really well. Just only four minutes. What do we do in the last three minutes?
James Acaster
I read about your menu. You're going to tell me how you feel about it.
Ben Schwartz
Is there a question that you ask?
James Acaster
No, I think I've asked a few.
Ed Gamble
There's the whole menu stuff.
Ben Schwartz
Yep.
James Acaster
You would like still water. James, you would like a bread platter. James, your starter. You want sweet corn ravioli from Capo.
Ben Schwartz
There you go. You can't believe me.
James Acaster
Sauce amakate made by J.
Ben Schwartz
Yes.
James Acaster
Yeah. No Uni side dish. Crispy okra from Kaan in Portland.
Ben Schwartz
K A N gr. Great place.
James Acaster
Drink an old fashioned at the beginning, a gin and tonic at the end. Great dessert. A classic ice cream sundae.
Ben Schwartz
Yes.
James Acaster
That sounds very nice and very, very clean menu.
Ben Schwartz
Thanks, guys.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, I think you're. Because you were worried before that with big meals, you're coming out feeling bloated and full. I think you've saved yourself for dessert there and you've given yourself the option to go like that after.
Ben Schwartz
Exactly. I gave myself the gift of feeling comfortable. I love a walk after a meal, too. Love a walk after a meal.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
One time I was in Vancouver and I was with a chef and I was going to eat at his restaurant. He was love. Lovely guy and he said, meet me 40 minutes before. I want to talk to you about something. I was like, okay. And we walked for 40 minutes around the. We were in Vancouver around this huge sea wall, and then we walked to his restaurant and we Were, like, tired, and he's like, the food's gonna taste better. And I go, what do you mean? He goes, because we just walked for that long, and you're thirsty and you're hungry, the food's gonna taste even better. And he was right. Food tasted so good. So he's, like, purposefully made me walk a bunch before beforehand to get ready for the meal. But I always love after a meal to walk, and it always makes me feel better whenever I walk.
Ed Gamble
After me, was he like, so sit down, enjoy the meal. I've got, like, eight more tables booked in, so I'm walking all day.
Ben Schwartz
I'm getting my steps in today. Yeah, he never cooked. I didn't eat. I didn't need anything.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
He has an empty plate.
Ed Gamble
The most ripped carbs you've ever seen.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah, it was incredible. It was like Popeye calves. It's crazy.
James Acaster
Shout out Popeye.
Ben Schwartz
Hey. Shout out Popeye, by the way, while we're here. Shout out Bluto. Shout out olive oil. Shout out Pl. Popeye. Popey is a type of Popeye. You know what I mean?
Ed Gamble
He's allergic to spinach.
Ben Schwartz
He's allergic to spinach. It's crazy.
James Acaster
Thank you so much for coming on, Ben.
Ben Schwartz
A pleasure.
James Acaster
Delicious menu.
Ed Gamble
Very, very good.
Ben Schwartz
Delicious conversation.
James Acaster
Oh, beyond delicious. It tasted even better. Because we walked here.
Ed Gamble
You've not noticed, every time we said anything to each other, I was whispering yummy. Under my breath.
Ben Schwartz
Oh, yeah. You kept saying I didn't understand what you were doing. Really yummy.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Ben Schwartz
Okay. That was really good. All right, Great. And this is the podcast.
James Acaster
This is the podcast.
Ed Gamble
Well, there we are. What a brilliant episode, James.
James Acaster
Oh, thank you, Ben, for coming on the podcast and making us feel. I mean, I think, yo, it's early in the morning, and I just feel much more rejuvenated. He's got a wonderful energy.
Ed Gamble
He does. He's got a fantastic energy.
Ben Schwartz
Could.
Ed Gamble
Couldn't keep up.
James Acaster
Oh, you were floundering, man. And you're gonna get a lot of tweets. But how you couldn't keep up.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, I don't. So that's fine. Yeah.
James Acaster
Instagram him.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
Is that what people do? Yeah, Instagram Ed and tell him how much you floundered. Say. Just say you didn't keep up, man.
Ed Gamble
Papa James, please don't do that. Even though I know it's set up, it'll still make me feel bad.
Ben Schwartz
Yeah.
James Acaster
It's all ruinous day, so don't do that.
Ed Gamble
Don't do that.
James Acaster
He's a person with feet. He's a person with feelings.
Ed Gamble
Thanks so much to Ben. Keep an eye out for DNA. Keep an eye out for Mike and Nick and Nick and Alice. And if you get a chance to go and see Ben Schwartz and friends.
James Acaster
You must go to the cinema. Watch Sonic 3.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
And you know what? Just. Just treat yourself to Ben's entire back catalog. There's plenty of stuff out there. You can. You can become a Ben Schwartz, Stan.
Ed Gamble
Yes, of course.
James Acaster
If you're not already. Of course.
Ed Gamble
Yes, I think you might be. Especially after that.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Great menu, great chat, very funny.
James Acaster
Great impressions.
Ed Gamble
Great impressions. Such good impressions.
James Acaster
Really good.
Ed Gamble
And he didn't say port knuckle either.
James Acaster
Do you really appreciate. Because that would have. We would have had to kick him out and that would have been a shame.
Ed Gamble
Thanks for that, Ben.
James Acaster
And thank you for trying to get Benito to speak. And we apologize that it didn't pan out.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. It's the first time a guest has ever held the mic up to Benito.
James Acaster
Repeatedly.
Ed Gamble
Multiple times.
James Acaster
Three or four times.
Ed Gamble
Like a reporter at a press conference.
James Acaster
Moving it over to him. Yeah. And sadly, because of the way Bonito has set up the few cameras in this room, none of them are pointed at himself. So yeah, there will be footage of that, but you will just see the mic go out of frame and then come back in again.
Ed Gamble
And it never works.
James Acaster
Never works. You will never speak.
Ed Gamble
Thank you for listening to the off menu podcast. We'll be back next week. Bye. Bye.
Ben Schwartz
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Beth, you're in charge of ordering the tacos for the meeting today.
Yeah, I'm not going to order the tacos.
James Acaster
What?
Producer
I'm going to easy cater the tacos.
Ben Schwartz
With easy cater, you can order from a huge variety of restaurants, travel, track.
Producer
Expenses and save time.
Ben Schwartz
Nice.
Producer
Oh by the way, you're emailing the meeting notes, right?
Ben Schwartz
No, I'm going to easy mail them.
Christian Dropo
Where's my music?
Producer
Sorry, Ben, there's no easycater for that.
Ben Schwartz
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James Acaster
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Ben Schwartz
Hey folks, it's Marc Maron from WTF. It's been more than 15 years now and I'm still talking to all kinds of people in my garage every week. Sometimes it's Bill Burr, sometimes it's Ariana Grande.
Ed Gamble
She just looks at me because she's always going like, dad, it's not that big a deal. Yeah. I go, sorry, I lost my temper.
Ben Schwartz
I go, I still love you.
Ed Gamble
You know, Daddy has issues.
Ben Schwartz
Are you afraid of it?
Ed Gamble
Of death?
James Acaster
Well, I don't know.
Ben Schwartz
I think about it all the time.
James Acaster
How are we here already?
Ben Schwartz
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James Acaster
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Ed Gamble
Oh boy, oh boy. The off menu boys are back in town doing live shows in London. James.
James Acaster
Ed, drop the app. We're a couple of losers who can't even sell out the Royal Albert Hall.
Ed Gamble
Well, I think we pretty much have, James. We're doing five shows at the Royal Albert Hall, 13th 15th March 2026.
James Acaster
This is depressing, man. We used to be a great podcast. People used to flock to see us. Now we're got like some tickets still knocking around for Royal Albert Hall. Are you kidding me?
Ed Gamble
This is exciting, James. So many tickets. It's going to be tasting menus. It will be previous fan favorite guests being given the menus of other previous guests.
James Acaster
The shows are going to be brilliant and we haven't even sold them out. We're on the. We're on the way out, James. It's the Royal we're on the way out. And listen, if you were ever a fan of this podcast, you got to come and see these shows because that this could be it. This could be the end.
Ed Gamble
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Podcast Title: Off Menu with Ed Gamble and James Acaster
Episode: Ben Schwartz
Release Date: July 23, 2025
In this lively episode of Off Menu, hosts Ed Gamble and James Acaster welcome the multifaceted comedian and actor Ben Schwartz to their whimsical dream restaurant. Known for his roles as Jean-Ralphio in Parks and Recreation and the voice of Sonic the Hedgehog, Ben brings a wealth of experience and humor to the conversation.
Ed Gamble and James Acaster delve into Ben Schwartz's expansive career, highlighting his involvement in various high-profile projects:
"DNA": A highly anticipated comedy that Ben co-created with Sam Rockwell, which also stars talents like Vince Vaughn and James Marsden. James enthuses, “We know we're in good hands today. Very excited.” ([07:02])
Voice Acting: Ben discusses his role as Sonic the Hedgehog, sharing humorous insights about embodying such an iconic character. When asked about competing with characters like The Flash, Ben quips, “No, Jim Carrey, I think, can absolutely destroy me. 100%.” ([20:32])
Improv Shows: Ben elaborates on his improv tour, "Ben Schwartz and Friends", where he collaborates with fellow improvisers to create spontaneous comedic performances. He mentions, “We do it improv for an hour and a half on stage, me and three people.” ([72:22])
Throughout the episode, the conversation is peppered with humorous stories and playful teasing:
Alexa Mishap: Ed Gamble shares a hilarious incident involving his wife, Charlie, accidentally requesting fart sounds from Alexa in her sleep. “She said, Alexa, play fart sounds. And Alexa went, that was a wet one.” ([08:12])
Impressive Impressions: Ben boasts about his ability to perform various impressions, even attempting a brief impersonation of Jesse J, though it humorously falls flat. “Hi, it's me, Taylor Swift. Everything's coming up Milhouse.” ([40:37])
Dad's Quirks: James recounts amusing tales about his father’s unusual aversion to drinking water, leading to a playful improv scene where they joke about requiring ID to prevent James from getting too excited. “Do you want to try? This is the thing you didn't give to me. I will zap it to your head.” ([21:45])
The heart of the episode revolves around Ben Schwarz detailing his ultimate dream menu, selecting his favorite dishes and beverages:
Starter: Ben kicks off with an exquisite choice, “An appetizer I loved is this place in LA called Capo. It's an Italian restaurant, and it's sweet corn ravioli. It's just like a decadent, beautiful little way to start. One of my favorite dishes ever in the universe.” ([35:30])
Main Course: Opting for comfort, Ben chooses, “Cheeseburger is my favorite thing to eat. Anytime I go on the road, I always get a cheeseburger, fries, barbecue sauce, and a ginger ale. That's my comfort food.” ([41:42])
Side Dish: Embracing adventurous tastes, Ben selects crispy okra, “Crispy okra from Khan in Portland. It's one of my favorite meals I've ever eaten my life.” ([55:40])
Dessert: Despite being lactose intolerant, Ben indulges in his dream dessert, “A classic Sunday ice cream sundae. Cookies and cream or vanilla ice cream, chocolate syrup, marshmallow, a cherry on top, and nuts.” ([69:05])
Drink: Preferring traditional flavors, Ben opts for an Old Fashioned, complemented by a gin and tonic at the end. “I usually like a little margarita every now and then. Margarita, come on. Salt on the rim.” ([62:16])
Towards the end, the trio engages in playful improvisational scenes, blending scripted elements with spontaneous humor:
Improv Scene: Ben initiates a skit where James attempts to enter a venue without proper ID, leading to a humorous exchange about age verification. “Can I see your ID please?” ([74:00])
Wrestling Jokes: The conversation takes a comedic turn towards wrestling, with Ed and James riffing on famous wrestling moves and scenarios. “You can always tell a little bit. When they ask at the top if you want still or sparkling water, you see a little glint in their eye.” ([49:32])
As the episode wraps up, Ed Gamble and James Acaster express their appreciation for Ben Schwartz’s vibrant energy and contributions. They highlight upcoming projects, such as Ben’s show "DNA" and his ongoing improv tours, encouraging listeners to stay tuned for more exciting content.
James Acaster concludes with a nod to Ben’s entertaining presence: “Delicious menu, delicious conversation, beyond delicious. It tasted even better because we walked here.” ([78:32])
Whether you're a fan of Ben Schwartz’s comedic prowess or simply love exploring dream menus, this episode offers a delightful blend of humor, personal anecdotes, and culinary inspiration. Tune in to experience the magic of Off Menu with some of the brightest talents in comedy.