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James Acaster
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James Acaster
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Jessica Hines
Welcome to the Off Menu podcast. Taking the pink sugar of friendship, pouring it into the Candy floss machine of the Internet, collecting the floss of humor onto the stick of great meals.
James Acaster
Man, how has it taken this long for us to do a candy flop or you to do. And I'm not going to share the credit with this one. You just. You do the intros.
Jessica Hines
I just want to reveal that when I started doing it, James's eyes lit up.
James Acaster
I was delighted.
Jessica Hines
He was beaming. He was beaming.
James Acaster
Even though I don't like candy floss.
Jessica Hines
It reminds me which people will find weird.
James Acaster
People will find that weird and off brand. But the feeling of being a kid discovering what candy floss is, having not tasted it before, but really wanting it is one of the best feelings.
Jessica Hines
Yeah, I love the idea of candy floss. I do not eat candy floss. Something that pops up in my algorithm quite a lot is a family where the dad makes candy floss art.
James Acaster
Wow.
Jessica Hines
I don't know where they are. In Southeast Asia somewhere. And he can make, like whole flowers with different colored petals using different candy flosses. And his kids are getting good at it now as well, and I'm very proud of them.
James Acaster
That's a gamble. My name is James Acaster. Together we own a dream restaurant. And every single week, we invite in a guest and ask their guest and ask their favorite ever start a main course, dessert side dish and drink, not in that order. And this week, our guest is Jessica Hines.
Jessica Hines
Jessica Hines, just national treasure alert. Absolutely. Ring a ding, ding. National treasure.
James Acaster
Amazing comedy, actor, writer. I mean, obviously, Ed and I, we grew up with Spaced.
Jessica Hines
Sure did.
James Acaster
Immediately.
Jessica Hines
We're slowly ticking off our space register.
James Acaster
We are slowly taking off the space register. And Jessica's in the franchise, which is out now on Sky Comedy.
Jessica Hines
And now, yes, you gotta go watch it. What a cast.
James Acaster
Himesh Patel, Loliada Fope, who has obviously been on this podcast. Also, Richard E. Grant's popping up every now and again that he was on this podcast as well. I'm just shouting out the people who've been on the podcast. You haven't been on the pod. I ain't shouting you out. Although Himesh hasn't been on the pod.
Jessica Hines
But we should get him on the pod.
James Acaster
We're aspirational here.
Jessica Hines
Yeah, Nish bullies him. We got to get him on the pod.
James Acaster
Yeah. Nish calls him Hollywood and points. Points his finger millimeters from the bridge of his nose and says Hollywood and does that every time he sees him. Sam Mendes is like, well directed the first episode. Executive produced it as well. Armando Iannucci, been on the pod, Been on The podium, like, it's very exciting. The trailer looks amazing.
Jessica Hines
Yes.
James Acaster
Can't wait to see it. We recorded this in the past. It's not out yet, so we've not.
Jessica Hines
Seen full episodes yet, but we've seen the trailer. We're very excited and we are very excited to have Jessica Hines in the Dream Restaurant.
James Acaster
Love Jessica Hines. And I mean, there's so much to ask her about, and I imagine it'll all go out my head by the time we sit down.
Jessica Hines
But hopefully she will not go out of the Dream Restaurant.
James Acaster
Oh, lovely.
Jessica Hines
If she picks a secret ingredient which we have pre decided upon and was the only thing that we could think of and was the first idea and the one that we're going with.
James Acaster
Ben suggested. You said yes?
Jessica Hines
No, I think I came out of the toilet and I said, I know what Jessica's secret ingredient should be. And you said, heinz Baked Beans. And I said, yes, that's what I was thinking of.
James Acaster
Very rare that Ed ever comes out of the toilet.
Jessica Hines
Yeah. I record most of mine from inside the toilet.
James Acaster
Yeah, yeah, usually. So when he's got an idea, he'll come out of the toilet and announce it. And this time it was the secret ingredient should be Heinz Baked Beans.
Jessica Hines
Heinz Baked Beans. Because Jessica's called Jessica Heinz.
James Acaster
Not spelled the same.
Jessica Hines
No, different.
James Acaster
But, you know, I hope she'll forgive us for going the easy route.
Jessica Hines
Yeah, I think she will. Looking forward to meeting her. You've met her, of course, before.
James Acaster
We were in a film called Seize Them. I say we were in a film called Seize Them. Hollywood. I was there for half a day to film my scene and Jessica was a proper part and it was brilliant in it. But, yeah, and we had a lovely meal there, actually. So, you know, I already know this lady can talk food.
Jessica Hines
This is the off menu menu of Jessica Hines. Welcome, Jessica, to the Dream Restaurant.
James Acaster
Welcome, Jessica Hines to the Dream Restaurant. Been expecting you for some time.
Jessica Hines
Yeah, that was a big one.
Ed Gamble
Wow.
James Acaster
Yeah, yeah, I went for it. Yeah. Do you appreciate how much I went for that?
Ed Gamble
That's not very welcome.
James Acaster
Don't do that for everyone.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
The clap felt like a kind of like an expulsion of bad energy. It felt like, you know, that was Ben. Oh, that was Ben.
Jessica Hines
Ben.
Ed Gamble
The clap and the shout. It was like, boom. It's a new day.
James Acaster
Oh.
Jessica Hines
So when you say expulsion of bad energy, you mean we were getting rid of it rather than we were putting.
James Acaster
Out into the world like a Reiki session?
Ed Gamble
Like snaps, you know, like kind of fireworks, you know, that's the Origin of fireworks. Just get it all.
Jessica Hines
Is it?
Ed Gamble
Yes. That's what the Chinese New Year is about. Like bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. Get rid of all the bad energy.
James Acaster
Wow. See, I'm just all just like, you know, just thinking everything that's just English. So I just think it's Guy Fawkes.
Ed Gamble
James, do you know what? That's on brand and I forgive you for that. I really do.
Jessica Hines
Hang on, you thought fireworks were invented.
James Acaster
By the English because of Guy Fawkes?
Ed Gamble
Yeah, sure.
James Acaster
I thought it was like they're meant to represent. Yeah. You wish you could have done this. You wish you could have blown up the houses apartment, mate. Look at this.
Jessica Hines
I think that's what they then came to mean for us in England. Yeah.
Ed Gamble
They were appropriated, obviously into the bonfire.
Jessica Hines
Yeah, sort of. But they're invented by the Chinese.
James Acaster
Yeah, I had no idea. Yeah. So already this is the quickest. I've learned something on the podcast.
Jessica Hines
See, this would be interesting. We need to find out more things that James assumes is English.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Oh, interesting. Food based, perhaps, because that's what the podcast is.
James Acaster
Mustard, of course.
Jessica Hines
English mustard. Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Mustard seed, though probably not English.
James Acaster
Yeah. What?
Ed Gamble
Mustard seed, probably not English.
James Acaster
Come on.
Ed Gamble
The only thing that is English is potatoes. James, I think. I think you'll find. Yeah, pretty much.
Jessica Hines
I think they were brought from somewhere else.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, Actually, yes, you're right. Of course. Not even potatoes. I'm sorry.
James Acaster
My world's going upside down and back to front here.
Ed Gamble
I'm sorry.
James Acaster
I'll tell you what I would like to know. Is this English, the franchise?
Ed Gamble
Well, very interesting question. It's a combo of both English and American talent.
Jessica Hines
Nice.
Ed Gamble
And I'm in it.
James Acaster
It's very exciting. The trailer's fantastic. Really funny. So many great stars in it. Yeah. An amazing team. Behind it got Sam Mendes, friend of the podcast, Amanda Iannucci as well. What can you tell us about the franchise?
Ed Gamble
It's set on the set of a franchise. So if you kind of think of any kind of Marvel universe, any superhero universe, it is a. It is set on a very similar set to that. Except it's not.
Jessica Hines
But not based on any real people.
Ed Gamble
No, it's called Maxim. So the studio is the Maxim Studios. And all the superheroes characters are created, are fictionalized for the purposes of the comedy series. But the idea is that we're focusing on the people behind the scenes of the franchise. That's my alarm.
James Acaster
I love it.
Ed Gamble
It's ten past one now. We all needed that to know that.
James Acaster
That's good to know. It's ten past one. Was that telling you it's time to do pr? No, time to promote the franchise.
Ed Gamble
I can't remember why that alarm is there. It's just there. And I haven't taken it off. And I haven't taken it off now, so it'll probably go again in a bit.
James Acaster
Yeah, yeah.
Ed Gamble
Unless I remember to take it. Oh, off. Sorry about that.
Jessica Hines
The old ten past one alarm, the.
James Acaster
Old ten past one alarms, do they originate in England?
Ed Gamble
I don't think so.
James Acaster
No.
Ed Gamble
No, no.
James Acaster
Someone else came up with alarms as well.
Ed Gamble
Interesting question.
Jessica Hines
You mean the concept of alarms?
James Acaster
Yeah, I mean, it had to be invented somewhere.
Ed Gamble
Well, I would say alarms probably came from the clock. And the clock, I don't think came from England. I think the clock. And you know, I have a speculative question. Do you think people were worried about the clock in the same way that they're worried about the Internet? Do you think when people actually invented the concept of time, everyone, like, that's it, the game's up, the jig's up. Yeah, it's over. It's like, can't you see what they're going to do? It's going to be like sectioning off time forever. And some people are like, no, no, don't worry about it. I've often thought that.
James Acaster
Yeah, yeah.
Jessica Hines
That there were people who probably thought we need to live in the moment but not know how long a moment is.
Ed Gamble
Can't you see how they're going to appropriate the clock? Yeah, it's great. Wow, an invention. But what they're going to do with it is then they can kind of control us and impress people.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Segment our lives.
James Acaster
Yeah. And some people couldn't stop staring at the clock, maybe all day long. So you gotta stop.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. Worried about becoming obsessed. It's like, you know, Gilead is obsessed with time now because of the clock. He. All he does is sit there and wait till it turns 3:00.
James Acaster
Yeah. You know, it was ten past one.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, exactly.
Jessica Hines
I gotta say, I'm a fan. I'm a fan of the clock.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, you are a fan.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Jessica Hines
It makes things easier, doesn't it?
Ed Gamble
Sure. That's the way, obviously. I mean, how could you say anything else? You'd be brainwashed like all of us.
James Acaster
Yeah, I've been brainwashed, actually. Who do you play in the franchise?
Ed Gamble
I play Steph Munden, who is the script supervisor. And what I learned from playing Steph Munden is that I could never, ever, ever be a script supervisor in real life. I do not Literally do not have the brain and the qualities and the skill. It is the hardest job on set by far. It is so complicated and amazing. What group supervisors do, I learned. I mean, I've always known they're kind of amazing. They're holding every single kind of fact about the camera lens, the angle, the shot, the continuity. But, like, when I really kind of started to shadow script supervisors on set, I realized this is so hard. It is such a hard job. So I just was pretending, obviously, having gleaned as much of an idea of what the job entails without having to.
Jessica Hines
Go too deep into it.
Ed Gamble
Well, I went as deep as this tiny little pea brain could go. I grasped as much of the technical skill as I could and sort of learned how to pretend, you know, sort of tippity tap, tap. But it is such a complex job and predominantly a job that mostly women do, which is a very interesting fact.
James Acaster
And when you say you were shadowing so as it was being filmed, you're following the actual script supervisor around the.
Ed Gamble
Corner of my eye, just looking at them on their pads, looking at what they're doing, sometimes trying not to be annoying, but kind of saying, what do you actually. So when you do that, what are you? And, you know, and then them very patiently and kindly, sometimes giving me time, and then in other occasions, kind of going, I just need to. Sorry.
Jessica Hines
Yeah, but that's great.
Ed Gamble
I am actually working. I'm like, absolutely fine.
Jessica Hines
That's great, because then you can take that into your part of being. Like, sometimes you're just working and then some.
Ed Gamble
I mean, you have to be so super focused to be keeping a track of everything. Obviously, now it's computerized now, so a lot of the information. But then you need to know how to do the tippity tap, tap. You need to know.
James Acaster
Oh, you did research.
Ed Gamble
You need to know how to get.
Jessica Hines
Into the main thing.
James Acaster
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ed Gamble
Okay.
James Acaster
I did something once, and the script supervisor had their dog on set for the whole thing.
Ed Gamble
The thing is, when you're a good script supervisor, you can bring it. You can bring what? You could bring your donkey on set, and people would be like, that's fine. Because, you know, you just got to do what you've got to do.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
People respect script supervisors.
James Acaster
Do you watch a lot of franchise stuff? Do you watch Marvel and films?
Ed Gamble
I have done. I really enjoy it. Yeah. I mean, I like. I think the one. I sort of. I really love the Thor iteration, that Taika Waititi, you know, comedy versions. I feel like he. His. His. My Kind of favorite, I think. But yeah, I do when it comes up. And I think when my kids were younger, I watched it more because I watch it with them. But yeah.
James Acaster
Have you ever auditioned for a Marvel film and not known that you're auditioning for it because they give you some?
Ed Gamble
I kind of did do a little bit of an audition year maybe for something in Wonder Woman that I didn't get.
Jessica Hines
Does this show sort of undercut the cinematic universes of comic books? Is it satirical about them to the extent that you're worried that you're not going to be able to break your way into superhero films after?
Ed Gamble
I'm not anything. I'm just glad to be working. I really don't think that far ahead. I'm trying to be very much in the moment. Ed.
Jessica Hines
Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry, I'm a clock guy.
James Acaster
Oh, clocky here.
Ed Gamble
Oh, clocko.
Jessica Hines
I'm thinking years ahead.
Ed Gamble
No, because it's not really necessarily about. I mean, it's much more about actually the kind of huge behemoth that is massive, massive, massive expensive filmmaking that really is the subject. So it's a workplace comedy set in the world of massively expensive film making.
James Acaster
Now, are you a foodie? Before we get into your menu, are you a fan of food?
Ed Gamble
Well, of course. I mean, how can you not be? Has anyone. Is anyone not.
James Acaster
Yeah, we have had a few non foodies on who just like, that's just fuel. I don't care. I don't think about it.
Ed Gamble
God, I would love to be that person. Yeah, I would love to be just a fuel person. What do they say when they just. Fuel. What does that mean? What is that like?
Jessica Hines
Yeah, I've got no idea. I mean, it seems to me like a completely joyless life.
Ed Gamble
Wow.
Jessica Hines
To be like.
Ed Gamble
Maybe they get joy from other things, not just stuff in their gob, you know, But I don't know.
Jessica Hines
Because if you're not getting joy from that, what are you getting joy from?
Ed Gamble
Yeah, okay. There's lots of other things you could get joyful.
James Acaster
Name one.
Jessica Hines
I don't know. Not that I know of.
James Acaster
Name one.
Jessica Hines
Food and the clock. That's all I've got.
James Acaster
I think you've got to enjoy the things that you just have to do anyway.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, yeah.
James Acaster
You have to sleep, you have to eat, you have to go to the toilet. Yeah, Enjoy those things.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, correct. So you're so profound. I wasn't expecting that. I thought this was more of a jokey, lighthearted sometimes.
Jessica Hines
But it depends, you know, make you think James is taking it down a philosophical route today.
Ed Gamble
I love it.
James Acaster
The guy loves it.
Jessica Hines
The guy loves going to the toilet.
James Acaster
Yeah. I love philosophy invented by the English, as we all know. We always start with still or sparkling water.
Ed Gamble
Sparkling. If I'm out, I mean, it's a treat. Yeah, yeah.
Jessica Hines
Never sparkling at home.
Ed Gamble
Sparkling at home, too, sometimes with a bit of lemon in it.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
How about that? How'd you like that?
Jessica Hines
You love that you're slicing the lemon at home.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, I'm slicing the lemon at home. Lemon is massive at home. Yeah, Lemon is big. Lemons are in trouble. You know, like, I've got a lot of the lemons running scared because I'm using a lot of lemons in everything.
Jessica Hines
Take us through the daily lemon rota.
Ed Gamble
Well, there's lemons in a bit of water, there's lemons in recipes, there's lemons in tea. Oh, yeah, there's a lot of lemons.
James Acaster
I think they're safe when they see the kettle boiling.
Ed Gamble
No, they're not safe.
James Acaster
You're going in that as well.
Ed Gamble
They are not safe.
James Acaster
I started today with a celery and lemon juice.
Ed Gamble
Oh, wow.
Jessica Hines
James is in films now.
Ed Gamble
That sounds delicious.
James Acaster
Like a character in the franchise.
Ed Gamble
Can I just. Can I just say, just celery and lemon.
James Acaster
It was. Yeah. Oh, that's what it was.
Jessica Hines
Hardcore. That must have tasted, if you don't mind me saying. Horrible.
James Acaster
It was delicious. I loved it.
Ed Gamble
Celery is quite sweet.
James Acaster
It was the second time I've had it this week. I saw it the other day.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
And was just like, that could be horrible. But I'm going to try it, see what it's like. Yeah, Absolutely loved it. One of those things where I already knew on the way home, I'm going to tell my girlfriend how nice this is when I get through the door. And it will absolutely ruin her day. It's going to be so boring. But, you know, I can't wait to tell her.
Jessica Hines
Excuse me.
James Acaster
Yeah, this is delicious. It's celery and lemon. And then today I knew that the place that sells it was en route to the studio and I couldn't wait. As soon as I woke up this morning, actually, Joe, Jessica, I thought of it as I was falling asleep. I thought, I want to get the celery and lemon. I'm going to get that tomorrow. And then I was so looking forward to it.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
You know, so, you know, lemons are in trouble in my house.
Ed Gamble
Watch out.
Jessica Hines
So you bought this? You didn't make this?
James Acaster
No, boy, I'm not Making juice. Well, what am I, a chef?
Ed Gamble
You know, what else are you going to spend £6 on?
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Glass of celery and lemon.
James Acaster
Yeah. A little shot.
Ed Gamble
It's money well spent in my book.
Jessica Hines
You want to shout out where it's from, Joe?
James Acaster
I knew this would happen. I got it this morning. I was walking away, I was thinking, this is so delicious. I'm going to mention it on the podcast. And then I realized I don't know the name of the place. And I looked back and I couldn't see the sign anymore. And I was like, hopefully I won't get asked now. The worst has happened. This is my biggest fear. I've been worried about it all day. It's 20 past 1 now. I know that my alarms went off, but, like. But you know, we've been worried since like 8 in the morning. I got that. Celery and lemon juice.
Ed Gamble
Do you. I'm just asking.
James Acaster
Yes.
Ed Gamble
Do you ever eat things that aren't appropriate for breakfast? For breakfast?
James Acaster
Go on. What? What?
Ed Gamble
I'm just asking. I'm just asking you that.
Jessica Hines
I'm just asking you definitely if there's leftovers.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Sometimes it's what you want, right?
Jessica Hines
I think anything can be a breakfast if you put fried egg on it.
Ed Gamble
Okay, good. Do you have to put fried egg on it, though?
Jessica Hines
That makes it feel more breakfasty to me, right? I don't think you have to.
Ed Gamble
No.
Jessica Hines
But, like, certainly, like leftover curry in the morning.
James Acaster
Yes. Absolutely.
Jessica Hines
Delicious.
James Acaster
You put a fried egg on the curry.
Jessica Hines
I could put a fried egg on the curry.
James Acaster
That's great.
Jessica Hines
Definitely.
James Acaster
That's changed my life.
Jessica Hines
Yeah. Or especially like, I think fried eggs go very well on like Thai leftovers or something like that.
Ed Gamble
Oh, nice.
James Acaster
This guy.
Jessica Hines
Little fried egg on the top.
Ed Gamble
Delicious.
James Acaster
I love that. Yeah. I mean, I definitely. I think the other day I was on holiday.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
But I still was like. And actually got this because Ed told me to, but I was in Tokyo and there was a. I was in a 711 and there's just a bar that is just an ice cream bar that's like covered in like wafer.
Ed Gamble
Oh.
James Acaster
And it's pretty big.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
James Acaster
As well. This is my breakfast and I just bit into it and it's just a wafer all on the outside, ice cream and bits of chocolate in the middle. It's like the end of a Cornetto, but over and over again.
Jessica Hines
It's really good.
James Acaster
I got it for my breakfast, Jessica. So that is definitely because we had.
Ed Gamble
A bit of a thing on Sunday, so We had some people. We had a kind of things. And I made a really, really nice curry and a very big apple crumble. There was a little bit. A little bit, you know, interesting because I didn't put the apple crumble in the oven as long as I thought I had. So when it came out, the apples and pears, it was an apple and pear crumble. They weren't that mushy, they were quite crispy because I'd put quite a bit of cinnamon in. And actually the crumble was just like whizzed up oats with a bit of coconut oil and a bit of brown sugar and a bit of cinnamon. There was something very nice about it not being mushy. So I got. So that's been a little bit. And there was some leftovers. So that's been a bit of a feature. That's. We've been having that a bit for breakfast.
James Acaster
Well, that's almost granola.
Ed Gamble
It's almost granola, but it's cinnamon. Cinnamon.
Jessica Hines
Breakfast time. Right.
Ed Gamble
Apple. Yes. Oats, of course.
Jessica Hines
Of course.
Ed Gamble
Brown sugar.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
It's a treat.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
You know, it's a bit.
Jessica Hines
Put a bit of yog with it and then it's definitely breakfast time.
James Acaster
We all let in. Yog slide. Yeah, we're. Yes.
Ed Gamble
And in it, actually, there's a great shop near, which is. Which is an amazing shop where I live called Everest Kash and Carry, which is run by the local Nepalese community in Folkestone. And they have an amazing yogurt there called Creamy Hole, which is. Which is a sort of live yogurt. And you can't get it. You don't get it anywhere else. I'm not sure what country it comes from. It comes from a big pot and it is live and it is delicious.
James Acaster
Wow.
Jessica Hines
How live are we talking?
Ed Gamble
As alive as you. As alive as you would ever need it. I'm saying, you know, if you want it any more alive than that, I wouldn't know where you'd go.
Jessica Hines
No. That was so scary, man. If the yogurt was really alive, I'd be so scary.
James Acaster
Okay, actually, I'm gonna put my question on hold and just hear. Ed, let's talk about that for a bit more.
Ed Gamble
Come on, let's.
James Acaster
What would scare you about that?
Jessica Hines
What if I. If you opened it up and the yogurt was having a chat or singing or dancing.
James Acaster
Yeah, Chatting to itself.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
James Acaster
What would it be saying?
Jessica Hines
Like a little man shaped yogurt beast came out the top of it.
Ed Gamble
That's an advert. You're just basically pitching.
Jessica Hines
It's lurpac, man, but with yogurt.
James Acaster
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He came out with a trombone.
Jessica Hines
With a trombone, saying, hello, I'm Creamy Hole.
James Acaster
I mean, my question was going to be, did you get Creamy Whole recommended to you?
Ed Gamble
No, I just saw it on the shelf.
James Acaster
And you thought, I'm going to get that.
Jessica Hines
Yeah, because of the name.
Ed Gamble
Everything. Everything about it screamed buy me, buy me, buy me. And I've. And I've never regretted buying it. It's delicious and it's just lovely yogurt.
James Acaster
Yeah. Well, so it's good recommend for everyone.
Ed Gamble
Is H O double it?
James Acaster
Sure. But, you know. Yeah, I mean, I. I still imagine that's affected sales.
Ed Gamble
I don't think it has.
James Acaster
You. You promoting it on this podcast is going to help go some way to getting rid of the hurdle that they must have to overcome. Everything.
Jessica Hines
Oh, no. I thought you meant it. Increased sales.
James Acaster
Are you kidding me? No one's buying Creamy Home.
Ed Gamble
Yes. Yes, they are.
Jessica Hines
They're taking pictures of it at least.
Ed Gamble
Maybe not. Maybe not a ton here, but, like, this is a. This yogurt, you know, something you might not know much about. No, like I'm telling you. Yeah, it's selling. Don't be worried about that.
James Acaster
Pop it, absorb bread. Pop it, absorb bread. Jessica Hines. Pop it, absorb bread.
Ed Gamble
Not understand what you just said.
James Acaster
Pop it, absorbed bread. Jessica Hines.
Ed Gamble
I heard James at Acaster. Okay, so you need to slow down. Yeah, you need to quieten down. You need to say it again in a calm inside voice, please.
Jessica Hines
Thank you for doing this. Finally, someone's done this.
Ed Gamble
Could you please say it in a calm inside voice and then I will respond.
Jessica Hines
We're having a lovely discussion about creamy whole, and you've shouted over the top.
Ed Gamble
I heard all bread. What I did not hear was that at the beginning. Okay, so start again. Take your breath and start again, please.
James Acaster
Would you like papadoms or bread?
Ed Gamble
Okay, now we're talking. Poppadoms.
Jessica Hines
Yeah, It's a nice chat.
Ed Gamble
It's always papadoms. Thank you.
James Acaster
Yes. Lots of papadoms.
Ed Gamble
Always popadom.
Jessica Hines
I'm glad you got him to repeat it, because he didn't even hear it the first time.
Ed Gamble
I had no idea what he said.
James Acaster
Yeah, imagine when we have American guests on how much of a difficulty they have with that bit. It doesn't go well.
Ed Gamble
I said, hey, come on. I'm sure some Americans love it.
Jessica Hines
They don't understand him a lot of the time, and they have to look to me for the translation. Essentially.
James Acaster
And then the rest of the episode, they're looking at Ed. Right. I'm just sitting there. I'll say stuff, but they'll just be looking at Ed.
Ed Gamble
Is that where you do it? Is it your way of clocking off?
James Acaster
It's fun. Yeah. I don't have to do anything after that. Do you want all the dips with the poppadoms? It's always there somewhere.
Ed Gamble
Always the dips with the poppadoms. Always the dips with the poppadoms. Always them. And then literally, like, treating the pop it on like it's a pizza. Like it's a pizza. Everything on all at once, then trying to kind of get it, like.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Crunch it without it all falling apart. And then scooping up the onion and all the whatever, even though it's too hot. Yeah, that's definitely.
Jessica Hines
When you say treating it like a pizza, are you doing, like a base of. A base of one topping?
Ed Gamble
Yeah, I'm just scattering it on there.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
You know, just obviously at that point, you're so hungry, you've ordered whatever deliciousness you've ordered and you want it and you're hungry. But, like, the papadoms come and it's like you fall on the papadons as if you had lean for days and you're kind of cramming. I mean, anyway, this is just me and you're kind of cramming it in your mouth as if you're not expecting another amount of food that will put you into a coma.
James Acaster
That is.
Ed Gamble
That is me in an Indian restaurant.
James Acaster
Well, they're so delicious. I mean, like, you know, how can.
Ed Gamble
They be that delicious? It's insane.
James Acaster
It is crazy.
Ed Gamble
English, right? Papadoms.
James Acaster
They are English.
Ed Gamble
They are English.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
That's what I thought.
Jessica Hines
Chris. Big Chris.
James Acaster
Yeah. You have just reminded me, actually, of why, you know, I want to put this section in the podcast to begin with in 2018, because of how much I love papadons. Someone hasn't.
Ed Gamble
Come on, tell us about the first time you ever had a papadon, please. Can you tell us about that one? What was your.
James Acaster
The very first time, can you remember it?
Jessica Hines
I mean, with you, it's, like, always surprisingly late. No, it'll probably be like, 27 or something.
Ed Gamble
It wasn't late.
James Acaster
It wasn't late. No, no, no.
Ed Gamble
Was it in an Indian restaurant or was it. Was it a takeaway? It was in an Indian restaurant.
James Acaster
Yeah. Yeah. We didn't get takeaways very much. My mum would cook and then very occasionally would go out for a meal.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
Actually, maybe it was late, I don't know. But it would have been at the Raj or the Royal Bengal in Ketryn, which are like two doors down from each other.
Jessica Hines
Are they rivals?
James Acaster
Yeah, but they're the two main curry houses. And I don't know what the building in between them is, but it must be tents in that building because they are. They are both fine for all of Ketryn's, like, you know, business curry wise. And they're both excellent.
Jessica Hines
You should open a curry house in the building in between.
James Acaster
I should do, actually.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
James Acaster
Acasters curry.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
James Acaster
I guess it's English curries and I can just sell, I guess, poppadoms and curry with eggs on it. That's my. That's my idea.
Jessica Hines
Breakfast curry.
James Acaster
Yeah, breakfast curry.
Ed Gamble
Someone's going there.
Jessica Hines
Yeah, good.
James Acaster
But they're both great places. I love going to them equally. Although the Raj are the one that gives me freebies because I'm famous.
Ed Gamble
Great. Oh, lovely. Yeah, congratulations.
James Acaster
Thank you very much.
Jessica Hines
Yeah, well done, man.
James Acaster
Your dream starter.
Ed Gamble
Well, I'm just going to preface this by saying that this is. This is sort of what I'm craving at the moment because I'm getting over this, like, flu that everyone's had, and so I've been kind of like, really craving healthy food. So you could ask me this dream menu at another time and it would be different.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
So this is very much what I'm craving at the moment.
Jessica Hines
You want nutrients, you want things to build up your immune system.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. So my starter, and this isn't as simple as you might think, but it's lentil soup.
James Acaster
Okay.
Ed Gamble
Because I was in Budapest filming last year and there was a Syrian restaurant opposite my hotel, and they did the most delicious lentil soup I've ever had. And I was like, I have to now, like. And I was eating it all the time. I love. It was so good. And I was like, right, I really have to work out how to make the most delicious lentil soup. Lentil soup. I go, I want to eat my own lentil soup. So that's basically when I. When I came home, I sort of tried to. And the answer, of course, as you would imagine, is lemon.
Jessica Hines
It's always the answer.
Ed Gamble
It's lemon, guys. It's bloody lemon.
Jessica Hines
As soon as you came home, those lemons would be like.
Ed Gamble
The lemons were like, she's home, she's home.
Jessica Hines
You slam a new recipe on the side.
Ed Gamble
Lemon cumin, garam masala.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Maybe a little bit of. Maybe a little bit of ginger. You might Want to scrape in there, maybe a bit of garlic. You want to kind of, you know, like, put the lentils in with the lemon and all the seasoning and then put the water in. And then you've basically got the most delicious soup that you just never want to stop eating. It's so delicious.
James Acaster
How do you. You figured out the recipe? Did you ask them?
Ed Gamble
No, I didn't ask them.
James Acaster
You just came back and you figured it out?
Ed Gamble
Well, I just kind of looked up different, like, lentil recipes. I mean, it's like, yes. Weird. I just sort of. Sort of weirdly figured it out all on my own. No, I mean, I obviously went on the, you know, I went onto the mainframe. I went on. I went, you know, I went in on the Internet and, you know, I did some research. But yeah, and then. But then I kind of, like, experimented a bit. But yeah, that is just like whenever I go, like, anywhere that does lentil soup, I'm always like, I'll have. I want to try different people's lentil soup because it varies, obviously from place to place. But this was so delicious.
James Acaster
This is something you've always loved, then. You've always loved lentil soup.
Jessica Hines
This lentil soup Changed your mind on lentil soup?
Ed Gamble
Lentil soup changed my mind on lentil soup. And I realized that the lentil soup I might have been having before was. It wasn't the good kind, it wasn't the best kind. And having then eaten this lentil soup and this restaurant had another thing called fool, which is like fava beans and tahini and lemons again. And. And that. And it was that flavor combo. I was like, this is. This is all I want. It's just like that lovely, sharp, lemony tahini, spicy. Just deliciousness.
James Acaster
So, yeah, you're in that phase at the minute that your lentil soup phase.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, I'm loving lentil soup right now.
James Acaster
The people close to you, if they notice this pointed out, they love it.
Jessica Hines
Because I guess you're making big batches, right?
Ed Gamble
Sometimes I'm making big batches. Sure, sure. Yeah, yeah, that's happening.
James Acaster
Yeah. Yeah.
Jessica Hines
I just think, yeah. With something like lentil soup, you're not gonna make one portion, are you?
Ed Gamble
I've tried to make a smaller portion, but then it's just never enough.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
So I try to kind of. I try not to over make, which is sometimes difficult when you kind of, you know, you don't know who's going to eat it.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
But, yeah.
James Acaster
How much lentil soup is in your freezer at the Minute.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Actually, none.
James Acaster
Congrats.
Ed Gamble
No, there's no lentil soup in my freezer right now.
Jessica Hines
How many lemons are in your house right now?
Ed Gamble
Seven lemons.
James Acaster
Absolutely not.
Ed Gamble
Not for long. Ed, are you. Better watch out.
Jessica Hines
They're at home listening to this. Absolutely terrified, quaking in their boots.
James Acaster
Who. Who in your. Who do you know? All the people that you know loves the lemon suit the most. Who has been like, you're gonna make this every time I see you. This is so good.
Ed Gamble
I think my daughter. My daughter. I've got one child who still lives at home, and my daughter, she loves my lentil soup. And then Adam, my husband, loves my lentil soup. And then, you know, everyone who comes in loves my lentil soup. Everybody loves my lentil soup. What can I say? I'm not gonna lie about it. Everybody bloody loves it. That's why I make it.
James Acaster
I like this voice. I like this character.
Jessica Hines
I like this character.
James Acaster
Good character makes the lentil soup.
Jessica Hines
The character is trying to be humble. Just be realistic about how much everyone loves. Loves their lentil soup. That's good cat phrase for the character.
James Acaster
Yeah. Just being honest.
Ed Gamble
Being honest. But I did have, like, when I was ordering it in in this restaurant, when I was in Budapest, I did used to have, like, sides. If I was feeling a bit more hungry, I'd have an in soup, and then I would order their, like, Syrian baba ganoush, which. And that was a whole other level. Yeah. Because it was a bit chunky. It wasn't creamy baba ganoush. It was, like, a little bit chunky with a bit of tomato. Do you know what I mean?
Jessica Hines
Love it.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
That's the dip that I could just eat the most of on its own.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
Like, if someone said you got to eat a dip for ages.
Jessica Hines
That's a good question.
Ed Gamble
That is a really good.
James Acaster
I would like a bubble ganoush, please. And I would. I could do it.
Ed Gamble
I'll eat it with a spoon. And I was eating it with a spoon because I was eating a lot. I was working.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
I was eating the lentil spoon of lentil soup, spoon of baba ganoush, all on my own. So happen.
Jessica Hines
I've just been in Greece and eaten a lot of Tara masks.
James Acaster
The musical. Who plays Kenicki?
Jessica Hines
Yeah, I play Sandy.
Ed Gamble
Oh, God, he's so good.
Jessica Hines
A lot of dips.
Ed Gamble
Oh, Terry.
Jessica Hines
And a lot of tarot.
Ed Gamble
But probably different Tara to the ones we get. Quite pinky dye, maybe not.
Jessica Hines
You like white.
Ed Gamble
White tarot.
Jessica Hines
Proper white Tara.
Ed Gamble
Posh Tara.
Jessica Hines
Good Tara.
Ed Gamble
Real tarot.
Jessica Hines
Really good.
Ed Gamble
Come on.
Jessica Hines
It's good stuff. But I could eat that with a spoon. Even though it's got a real strong, pungent taste to it.
Ed Gamble
So what else you're having? Tara in Greece. What?
Jessica Hines
There was a fava bean one actually that they were doing quite a lot. Yeah. Which I think might be a specifically sort of Santorinian thing. We were in Santorini.
Ed Gamble
Oh, they love fava beans in Santorini.
Jessica Hines
They do, yeah, sure. Yeah. They're as scared as the lemons in Jessica's house. Those are the two main dips. I'd say there are a few others, but just had a lot of grilled fish, a lot of grilled veg.
James Acaster
It's baba ganoush dip. If you had to eat one dip, massive, like a meal, a meal sized portion of one dip, could you eat.
Jessica Hines
It like a yog?
Ed Gamble
I could, but do you know it would have to be homemade hummus. I'm sorry. So boring. So boring. No, but like, listen, when you do, I mean when we make, you know, when I'm at hummus, I do soak the chickpeas.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
So I soak them. In some cases I've even peeled them when I've wanted, just, just for kicks. So you have to, you know, after you've boiled them and all the skin gets loose on them and then you just sort of like spend ages, just like sort of. Because the skin sort of falls off them and then you, you've got this kind of like crackly load of sort of chickpea skin and you just sort of pull it off and pull it off and then it kind of becomes so creamy. So yeah, I, I do like hummus. I'm homemade hummus. So good.
James Acaster
You're open a cafe?
Ed Gamble
Yeah, I am open. I'm opening a cafe. In fact. I just literally like just right now.
James Acaster
Decided you're gonna do it.
Ed Gamble
It's all dips at this point.
James Acaster
Yeah, dips and soups.
Jessica Hines
Dips and soups.
James Acaster
Let's call it dips and soups.
Ed Gamble
Dips and soups. Yeah, yeah, soups and dips actually. But you know, fair enough, fair enough. What a difference a day makes. Swap your airport transit.
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Ed Gamble
You could eat probably eating with a spoon but you might want a fork.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Because there's something that I. We discovered we did a lot of tempura during lockdown. This was a thing that we did and so this, this main course is a sort of combo of things but one of the. I mean maybe. I suppose I could call it a side but it's on the main plate. But it could Also be a side.
James Acaster
Okay.
Ed Gamble
But when we were in lockdown, I had a card that let me go to shop in the cash and carry, which I was registered for vat. I didn't think there was a problem with it. I don't know. Just maybe I'm not running soups and dips yet. Maybe I'm just in the kind of R and D stage. But still, I had a cash and carry card. So those were the only circumstances which my husband would let me panic buy. Because obviously, cash and carries, that's the point of cash and carry. It's all panic buying. You know, it's tins and tins and tins of everything. And they have big lots of everything. So it's kind of.
Jessica Hines
I've never been in one, but it's.
Ed Gamble
My dream to go, oh, my God, I can't believe that. It is so fun. Yeah, it's so fun.
Jessica Hines
I bet.
Ed Gamble
So one of the things they had there was huge tubs of artichokes. So artichokes. Big, solid, lovely artichokes. So you would buy it, and it would seem like an expensive buy. It would be quite a lot of your bill, because obviously artichokes are expensive. But when you kind of worked out how much you were playing for one tub of artichoke for literally three little slices, it worked out a bargain.
Jessica Hines
You may as well.
Ed Gamble
So we had quite a lot of artichokes knocking about in the house during lockdown, and tempura was kind of on the menu. And then I was like, artichoke tempura? Yeah, let's go there. Let's go there. And it was out of this world.
Jessica Hines
That sounds amazing.
Ed Gamble
It really was artichoke tempura. Why wouldn't you.
Jessica Hines
Because it's like the way an artichoke is. There's layers and so there's surface area for more.
Ed Gamble
The layer is like the beginning of a.
Jessica Hines
The way it is, the way an.
Ed Gamble
Artichoke is the way she is. But so there's layers. Exactly. So that when you kind of, you know, cook it like that, it kind of holds its shape, obviously, because they were really good proper. They were kind of in brine, so they weren't too slimy and squidgy. They still had a little bit of crunch. They were good kind of cured artichokes, if you like. And they work brilliantly. Tempura. So that would be a feature in my main course.
Jessica Hines
How big was the tub of artichokes? I think we'd all like.
Ed Gamble
Well, like. Okay, let me just Try to think about, like, how could I. How could I describe it in this context? I mean, bucket. I was gonna say bucket, but that would be too big. So not. Not a bucket. Like a small bucket.
Jessica Hines
Small bucket.
Ed Gamble
A small. A kind of a lot. A very, very large jar. So, like, what if you imagine the largest jar.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Like an unreasonably large jar that you would never find in any vase. It depends on the vase. I mean, this is small vase.
James Acaster
So I think a few people might be listening to this and thinking that they've got a very different definition of panic buying than you have.
Ed Gamble
Right.
James Acaster
Because you panic bought a tub of artichokes.
Jessica Hines
We all remember that part of lockdown.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Jessica Hines
Where everyone went mad and bought up all the artichokes and you couldn't find.
Ed Gamble
My husband was extremely, like, strict. So we would go. We would like about not panic buying. It was like, absolutely. But he was almost so worried about it that we would go shopping and I would put two bags of muesli, and he would say, put that back. Put one back. I was like, I think it's normal to buy two bags of muesli.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
But he wouldn't allow it.
Jessica Hines
Even outside of a pandemic.
Ed Gamble
Outside of a pandemic, I would buy two bags of muesli, but it was not allowed. I'll have to put one.
Jessica Hines
You have a muesli every morning. You don't want to buy muesli every single week.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Jessica Hines
Buy two bags. That makes sense.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Jessica Hines
Regardless of the global health situation, if.
James Acaster
It wasn't for your wimp husband. How. How much? You called a bit. We edited it out. Yeah.
Ed Gamble
No, no, I. I did not call him that. He was a vet. He was a good citizen.
James Acaster
Square.
Ed Gamble
No. Good citizen.
James Acaster
So it wasn't for your good citizen of a husband.
Ed Gamble
Thank you.
James Acaster
How much do you think you would have bought of stuff? Do you think you would have panic?
Ed Gamble
We don't want to.
James Acaster
Would you have gone?
Ed Gamble
No, I would have. I mean, although in some cases, when things eased, I did then buy. Okay. We're still eating brown rice and. And in fact, chickpeas and, in fact, lentils.
Jessica Hines
You buy the big sacks of rice.
Ed Gamble
Oh, yeah. It came in boxes, so. Yeah. So, yes.
James Acaster
Yeah. Yeah.
Ed Gamble
I had to buy buckets, so it didn't go off, but I felt like that was okay because it's not like I'm going to the shops and then clearing. I was buying it from somewhere that wanted to sell me lentils in bulk. So does that. That quality. Does that count as panic buying? Not really.
Jessica Hines
Not if you're still having it. It's not like.
Ed Gamble
No.
James Acaster
Yeah. I guess everyone who's walking around cash and carry is probably not panicking.
Ed Gamble
But I will tell you this. When it all arrived, when it all arrived the first time, my husband was like, what is this? I said, I've bought some things in bulk from, you know, a wholesaler. Stuff that I think that would be useful. And he sat down, he said, I've done the calculations. If we eat this food stuff for every meal, we will still be eating it in seven years. He said, you are going to have to send half of this back. So I did. I did. I sent half of it back.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Because it was just completely.
Jessica Hines
Well, they probably thought you were like a survivalist or something.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. And to a certain extent in that moment, I felt like that's maybe what it was. So. But anyway, so I did have to send half of it back.
James Acaster
Sure.
Ed Gamble
Luckily, I've learned how to make lentil soup, so.
James Acaster
Yeah, that explains your starter. Yeah. That explains why lentil soup is what.
Ed Gamble
Guys, it's lentil soup again.
James Acaster
You're peeling chickpeas, making your own hummus. Yeah.
Jessica Hines
So far, every single dish has been things that you've panic. Bought during the pandemic. Toilet paper for dessert.
Ed Gamble
No, that's one thing. We didn't panic. No, that was not. I never understood that. Never understood that.
James Acaster
So is it just the tempur artichoke temperament, then?
Ed Gamble
Lovely. There's a thing that I started making which is like, really, really, really nice. Finely. Finely, Finely, Finely chopped salad, like, but with, like, greens. So you, like. You know, when you really. When you know, kale is quite a. It's a bit of a contentious vegetable. People are like, it's for donkeys, you know.
Jessica Hines
I've never heard that, by the way.
Ed Gamble
Haven't you?
James Acaster
No, but never heard someone say, I.
Ed Gamble
Think that's maybe what.
Jessica Hines
Second time you brought up donkeys as well.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, I do love a donkey.
James Acaster
But.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. So it's like really, really finely chopped. So. But you, like, literally almost. So they're like you're kind of turning it into, I don't know, something. Yeah. So it's not leafy at all. So you really, really finely chop it and finely chop it with, like, other kind of fresh vegetables and there's lots of lemon in it and it's just like a really nice chunky. Maybe walnuts.
James Acaster
Oh, yes. Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Are you with me on that?
Jessica Hines
Yeah, with you.
James Acaster
Had a little walnut Southern today, did you? Yeah, yeah. For our lunch in there.
Ed Gamble
Because you want that little bit of crunch. And maybe the walnuts, maybe they've been baked. Yeah, Maybe they've just been put in a pan for a bit. Yeah, just put a little bit toasty, put a bit of heat on them. Just bringing out that oil that lovely. And then finely chop that and mix that up and then put that with a little. But whatever you want, really. Mushrooms. Finally chop some mushrooms in there. A bit of lemon, maybe a little bit of tamari, a little bit of soy sauce on there as well. Just to give it a bit of depth. Something bit of umami. There she is, there she is. Glad you brought her up. Yeah. And then, and then on with that, like maybe a bit of Babylonution. Maybe a bit of hummus.
Jessica Hines
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
James Acaster
You need to get rid of that hummus.
Ed Gamble
The chickpeas in there somewhere.
James Acaster
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. You want some brown rice on the side?
Ed Gamble
Yeah, yeah, sure. As well, I actually have a really like way of making like if you. Brown rice, obviously brown rice, that's just brown rice. But like I like to chop up sweet red onions and then fry them like quite a lot. Again, bit of tamari, bit of umami, maybe a bit of soy sauce, whatever you like. A bit of white miso. Do you know what I mean?
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Stir that in and then put that in with the brown rice and just like give that a big stir. And then that as a dish is just delicious.
James Acaster
Yeah, that sounds good.
Ed Gamble
Delicious. It's very good.
Jessica Hines
It all sounds so good.
James Acaster
It does.
Ed Gamble
It is good. It is good.
James Acaster
In my head I just keep on. Keeps going round. I just keep nearly laughing because I'm imagining someone going, do you want some kale? No, that's for donkeys.
Jessica Hines
That's for donkeys.
James Acaster
It's making me laugh.
Jessica Hines
No, people say it's for donkeys.
Ed Gamble
Imagine someone said the visual would be cut too. Just a very silent donkey just chewing down kale stalk.
James Acaster
Cuz they eat the kale.
Ed Gamble
I actually do chop the stalks out of chaos. I do. And in that, in that situation, if I'm trying to make like a finely chopped, like lovely raw salad, I will take that, I will.
Jessica Hines
You don't want the stalks in there.
Ed Gamble
Listen, if you want to eat the stalks, good, but you're a donkey, do it.
James Acaster
You are donkey. You could chop them up and put them in a pasta because if you don't know what to do with the stalks because you're using all of the leaves, you could chop them up, up. Having him in some pasta with some treats. So maybe off the top of my head or something.
Jessica Hines
Yeah. Not a bad idea.
Ed Gamble
But I actually did. Somebody did say about, like, parsley stalks are good at the end. At the end of when, if you're making a little tomatoey sauce, you might bang that in there and full of parsley stalks. Bam.
Jessica Hines
Pesto. You could whiz them up into a little situation.
Ed Gamble
I love a bit of pesto. Do you ever make pesto with. Again, walnuts?
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Do you ever make pesto with walnuts and parsley and oil and garlic? You don't need. You know what you don't need? Pine nuts. We're so fixated. Pesto. It's got to be pine nuts. No, no, no, no, no.
James Acaster
Edward says that. Obsessed.
Ed Gamble
Obsessed. I mean, pine nuts are lovely. They are like the. They are like the absolute sort of like the jewel of nuts.
Jessica Hines
I've never finished a bag.
Ed Gamble
They're too oily, aren't they? I mean, you can't. You can't scoff pine nuts.
Jessica Hines
No, you can't scoff them.
James Acaster
I can.
Ed Gamble
Macadamia.
Jessica Hines
Use them for a dish.
James Acaster
Am I invisible?
Jessica Hines
Toast them.
Ed Gamble
Sorry, did you say something?
Jessica Hines
Who are you? Toast them. Put them in a salad. But then they're going in the cupboard and I'm not touching them again.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. Is that because you're conditioned to treat them like they're special?
Jessica Hines
Well, they're the jewel of the nut.
Ed Gamble
The jewel of the nut, Yeah. I mean. But. But I mean, obviously they're very costly compared to other nuts as well.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Sorry, what were you saying?
James Acaster
I've scoffed them.
Ed Gamble
What, a whole bag of pine nuts?
James Acaster
Yeah. Well, I used to walk around before I lived in London, but I would come to London for gigs and I'd just have to kill like 12 hours a day because I'd stay around.
Jessica Hines
So many of your stories start like this, but with different foods.
Ed Gamble
Angry about that?
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
James Acaster
It's a bad two years of this, with two years of staying around people's houses and then, like, gotta go to work, you got to get out. I was like, my open mic gig doesn't start until you just used to.
Ed Gamble
Go and buy yourself a little bag of pine nuts and go and eat them in the park.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Jessica Hines
Or you take them from your friend's cupboards.
James Acaster
No, I'll take it from the cup at nine.
Ed Gamble
You never take anyone's pine nuts.
James Acaster
I get them from. From the shop or something, then just walk around wolfing around London and then look at free art.
Jessica Hines
They don't seem like an eating nut to me. You're like a snacky Nut.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. For most people. Yeah, most people.
Jessica Hines
So I'm in the right here.
Ed Gamble
Well, I would. Listen, let's not put a value judgment on it. I mean, you know, James isn't wrong for scarfing pine. Just willy nilly. He's not wrong for it. He's just. Just sharing his truth.
James Acaster
Yes.
Jessica Hines
Also, I worry about pine mouth.
James Acaster
Yeah. Yeah. Pine mouth is a thing.
Jessica Hines
You know about pine mouth.
Ed Gamble
No.
James Acaster
Eddie Stone. Got it.
Jessica Hines
I only found out about it on this podcast many years ago when we just started.
Ed Gamble
Okay.
Jessica Hines
You can have a bat if you have a bad pine nut. It coats your. Coats your mouth with the bad oil and then it changes the way you taste everything for ages.
James Acaster
Yeah, everything tastes like garbage, actually.
Ed Gamble
Kidding me.
James Acaster
No, no. Ed Easton. Got it.
Ed Gamble
The heck?
James Acaster
Eddie Ston was in the room below us when we. When it came up on the podcast, I went and I dragged him up. It was during Ivo Graham's episode, if you want to go back and listen to it. And then Eddie Ston came in and he took. Get very bravely shared his story of getting pine mouth. Yeah.
Jessica Hines
So I'm actually scared of pine nuts because of that. Especially ones that have been in the cupboard for a while.
Ed Gamble
Wow. Yeah. No, I mean, I can see that because I can't. I didn't know that.
Jessica Hines
Be walking around and everything tastes bad.
Ed Gamble
No.
Jessica Hines
Because then I've got nothing left.
Ed Gamble
No, exactly.
James Acaster
Yeah, he's got nothing.
Ed Gamble
God, I did not know that about pine nuts. Are there any. Any other nuts that are like that?
Jessica Hines
Not that I. Not that I know of.
James Acaster
I think all the other nuts are safe.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
James Acaster
They're not going to coat your mouth and mesh a day up. But like, pine nuts are the sign. That's.
Ed Gamble
Be careful. Is there anything to look out for? I mean, how do you like in the. I mean, do they look different from the other nuts? So, for example, would you be more likely to do it if you were just wandering around a park, just literally pouring. Pouring them. Pouring the packet into your mouth?
James Acaster
Your dream side dish.
Ed Gamble
Dream side dish.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Would probably be fried. Halloumi just comes off the top of my head.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Halloumi to introduce myself.
Jessica Hines
Let it come off. Let it come off the top of your head.
Ed Gamble
Halloumi to introduce myself.
Jessica Hines
I've heard a lot of halloumi puns. I've never heard that one.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, enjoy.
Jessica Hines
Because hello, me. I hear quite a lot.
James Acaster
You know, it's funny how there are certain things, the words that people hear and you just can't help but so obviously when you hear halloumi you can't help but hear in your head.
Jessica Hines
Let me introduce myself.
James Acaster
Someone told me the other day that they can't look at Alien Broadway without thinking about feeling horny.
Jessica Hines
And unfortunately, because of the way podcasts work, there will be a large amount of people listening to this now who then will have the same thing.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, that will happen.
Jessica Hines
That will stick.
Ed Gamble
And it'll just go in there.
Jessica Hines
Yeah. With both. Halloumi. To introduce me.
James Acaster
To introduce myself.
Ed Gamble
Halloumi is something that I think that's why I could never not like. I could never not eat fried halloumi. When it's really delicious and juicy and, like, crispy on the outside, and it's got a little bit of whatever, dip. But obviously, essentially, it would be the sweet chilli sauce. That would be the main thing that you'd want. I mean, I think so, right?
James Acaster
We've been very anti sweet chili sauce on this.
Jessica Hines
I'm still anti sweet chili sauce.
Ed Gamble
Wow. Okay, let's go there, because I need.
Jessica Hines
To catch up, because that's how they serve it. Nando's as well, with sweet chili sauce.
Ed Gamble
Okay. And you don't like that?
Jessica Hines
No, I don't touch it. I just like the halloumi.
Ed Gamble
Okay. Why, Ed?
Jessica Hines
I can just go straight. Just straight halloumi.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Jessica Hines
But why sweet chili sauce? You may as well have a tub of jam. I think it's too sweet.
Ed Gamble
Wow.
Jessica Hines
I feel like there's almost nothing chilly in it. It's just pure sweetness.
James Acaster
Wow. Kind of feel the same.
Jessica Hines
But halloumi. To introduce myself.
Ed Gamble
What would you have with that? What would you prefer as a date?
Jessica Hines
Normal. Just straight halloumi. If I'm having Nando's, I can do. I can do, like, hot sauce with it, maybe, but I could just eat the fried halloumi.
Ed Gamble
So here's the situation, Kate. Like, just for example, just hypothetically, there's a lovely big plate of fried halloumi. The perfectly crispy little ones that are a little bit joined. The cheeky ones that you'll go for, it's a little bit bigger, delicious, fresh, still a bit squidgy. Glistening. They're glistening. There's a lovely big tub of sweet chili sauce in the middle. You're telling me.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
You're telling me.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
You're gonna go up to that play of halloumi.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
You're gonna pick up a piece of that sweet, juicy, salty cheese, and you're not gonna dip it in the chili sauce?
Jessica Hines
I'm not going near it.
Ed Gamble
What planet are you from?
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
What is going on there?
Jessica Hines
Why?
Ed Gamble
Why?
Jessica Hines
I just don't like sweet chilli sauce. I think it takes away from the flavour.
Ed Gamble
Talk us through it. When did this happen?
Jessica Hines
Well, when did sweet chili sauce first become big? Probably the 90s.
Ed Gamble
Yes.
Jessica Hines
Yeah. So it's probably back in the 90s.
James Acaster
Yes.
Jessica Hines
A lot of kids were really into it.
Ed Gamble
Yes.
Jessica Hines
And it just wasn't my. It wasn't my scene. I thought, I'm a bit more grown up than this, you know?
Ed Gamble
Okay. Is it because it was sweet? Did something happen?
Jessica Hines
Well, it's just like, to me, like, having melted down. Haribos and sweeties aren't my thing.
Ed Gamble
I'm not into sweeties. I don't have. Really?
Jessica Hines
You are because you like sweet jelly sauce.
Ed Gamble
Wow.
James Acaster
Oh, halloumi. To apologize on Esbah. You should not have said that. You're a guest on this podcast.
Ed Gamble
So when did you stop liking sweet things?
Jessica Hines
Oh, so I'm type one diabetic.
Ed Gamble
Okay.
Jessica Hines
I don't. But I don't think it has anything to do with that. I like sweet things. I eat desserts. I enjoy sweet, but I don't like pure sugar sweet things. I don't know if that's connected to my type one diagnosis. But also, I just think it's a shame. I like spice, and I feel like the sweetness in the sweet chilli sauce outweighs the spice too much.
Ed Gamble
Do you think it's a bit patronizing to the chili?
Jessica Hines
I think it's patronizing to the chili. I think that people eat it. They're like, ooh, I'm having chili. You're not.
Ed Gamble
You think that's what people are thinking?
Jessica Hines
You think you lot are eating the sweet chilli sauce and going, I like spicy things. You don't. You're eating jam.
Ed Gamble
Maybe they're just eating. Maybe they're just not thinking, I like spicy things. They're just enjoying the sweet chilli sauce. That could be happening.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Because the thing is, I wouldn't normally have sweet chilli sauce on much else, but when it comes to a fried halloumi side with sweet chilli sauce, there's no way I'm not going to dip that halloumi in there. There's just no way.
Jessica Hines
Yeah. See, I'm not even going to dip it. I had some halloumi fries recently at a festival.
Ed Gamble
How were they?
Jessica Hines
They were really good. Do you know what? I got a dip.
Ed Gamble
Okay. Yeah. What was it?
Jessica Hines
Garlic mayo. How'd you feel about that?
Ed Gamble
I feel that is a fantastic idea.
Jessica Hines
Yeah, it was. That was good.
James Acaster
I didn't know what that okay. Signifier.
Jessica Hines
And it was double dairy, which felt weird.
James Acaster
I double dairy. You eat that.
Jessica Hines
Allow me to double dare you. So that was good, but there was sweet chili available and I didn't dip.
Ed Gamble
Do you know what is delicious is real mayonnaise. Like homemade mayonnaise. Like actual mayonnaise. That isn't. And I feel like someone panic bought.
James Acaster
Eggs in the pandemic.
Ed Gamble
That was hollandaise. That was the holidays. Those were the hollandaise months. Exactly. But, yeah, no, I can see that.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Like, oh, lovely. I mean a lovely good mayo. I mean, who's not. What. What is not to love?
Jessica Hines
I'm going to counteract what I said a little bit here.
Ed Gamble
Isn't that a bit cloying, though?
Jessica Hines
Sorry, it was a bit. It was a bit claggy.
Ed Gamble
Wow. Okay. Thank you for. Thank you for admitting that. Thank you for being honest about that.
Jessica Hines
I love me very much.
James Acaster
What?
Jessica Hines
Well, then I was trying my own one. Yeah. And hello to you too. Have you been to Bubula? No, it's amazing. It's a vegetarian restaurant in Soho, but they do one of their starters is this whole block of fried halloumi. And is it black seed honey or something?
Ed Gamble
Oh, my God.
Jessica Hines
So that's, you know, cheese and honey.
Ed Gamble
Yes.
Jessica Hines
See that? I feel like I'm going against my own point there with sweetness. But it is absolutely delicious.
James Acaster
We're singing from the same regional.
Jessica Hines
Yeah, yeah. It's really, really good.
Ed Gamble
Black honey on a chunk of halloumi. I mean, that is like. I'm saying. Yes.
Jessica Hines
It's not slice or anything. So it's just one block, but it's like perfectly fried. You gotta go.
Ed Gamble
That sounds amazing. Yeah, that sounds amazing.
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James Acaster
Your dream drink.
Ed Gamble
I don't drink alcohol. So my dream drink is different because obviously in every situation sometimes it's an alcohol free beer, which there are so many. Brilliant. Yeah, they do amazing. And every year it feels like there's more and more brilliant. I could so I couldn't believe it when they brought out alcohol free Guinness. It was just like, it was like a gift.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
To be able to go into a pub and have a lovely big. And I. Because I've been drunk for seven years, I've forgotten what a real pint of Guinness tastes like. Like. So for me it was just like it was heavenly. So I love drinking alcohol free beers. All different kinds of alcohol free beers. But might I make kind of. Yes. And maybe it's alcohol free Guinness. Maybe I'll just go there.
James Acaster
It is good.
Ed Gamble
It's good.
Jessica Hines
It's good stuff.
Ed Gamble
In a meal situation. You see that would be more like if I was going to go to a pub or go for to a pub lunch or just be there, I would have alcohol free Guinness if they have it. But like with a meal, I mean I, I love, I love a sparkling water with a bit of squeeze of lime. Lime's not. Hold on a minute. I know limes have not had a look in.
Jessica Hines
Have the lemons. Just relax.
James Acaster
Yeah, you hear that? That's the sound of seven lemons. We're breathing a sigh of relief.
Ed Gamble
But I love, I got into in fact the light, the lot. I did go in hard on the limes actually during lockdown again and like I really, really kind of moved into limes and actually I've not really revisited limes but in a sparkling water properly like half a squeezed limes, bit of ice. I mean that it's literally the thought of it is making my mouth water right now. That is just the most delicious drink.
James Acaster
So do you think?
Ed Gamble
So delicious.
James Acaster
We probably haven't had this happen on the podcast before where for someone's water course they've chose sparkling water with lemon. And then for their dream drink they've.
Jessica Hines
Chosen sparkling water with lime and loads of lime.
Ed Gamble
Like proper lime, loads of lime. So you're like, you've got a little bit of. Yeah, that is so delicious that drink.
Jessica Hines
You are never going to get scurvy.
James Acaster
Congratulations.
Jessica Hines
Guaranteed.
Ed Gamble
You know, people still can get scurvy.
Jessica Hines
I'm sure, yeah.
Ed Gamble
Sorry that's such a stupid thing. Really apologize. I'm so sorry.
Jessica Hines
That's good.
James Acaster
To raise awareness, you're using your platform for good there.
Ed Gamble
Thank you.
James Acaster
You should be doing that.
Ed Gamble
Thank you. Thank you.
James Acaster
And scurvy doesn't get talked about enough.
Ed Gamble
No, it doesn't. No, it doesn't.
Jessica Hines
Outside of sort of nautical history.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
James Acaster
I think you should have all of those drinks. I think you should have. Have the sparkling water with the lime, but I think you should also have at some point in your meal, the alcohol free Guinness. I think that's. Even if it's just at the end.
Ed Gamble
But maybe not all together. But another drink I love is Lassie. So I love. I love, like salty Lassie or a mango lassi.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
So my idea of a really lovely bit, but that's kind of. Now we're getting into pudding territory here, is to have like a Lassie, but with fresh mango, so no added sugar. Just like fresh mango whizzed up with like kind of kefir. Like whizzed up like. That is a. That is a delicious drink.
Jessica Hines
So maybe this is a bridging drink from your main course into your dessert.
James Acaster
Yes, it is.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, it is.
James Acaster
Respect.
Jessica Hines
Nice to have a bridging drink. Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, it is.
James Acaster
All those drinks sound great and you deserve all of them. So we found a place for each one of them. Yeah, we got sent some alcohol free Guinness during the lockdown.
Ed Gamble
What?
James Acaster
I put champagne in mine. No, put Prosecco. I put Prosecco in it. Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Velvet in Dublin during the lockdown. There was a Guinness van. There was a van that was taking Guinness house to house. So you could. So you could have it poured from the barrel. You could call up, they would drive up and they would pour the Guinness from the barrel out the back of the Guinness van in Dublin and then you could have a nice poured pint of Guinness during lockdown. So civilized, isn't it?
James Acaster
That's lovely.
Ed Gamble
It's a lovely story.
James Acaster
It's an Ed's favorite drink pretty much.
Ed Gamble
Is it Guinness?
James Acaster
He would have liked that a lot.
Ed Gamble
Absolutely. Love Guinness is.
Jessica Hines
It's amazing stuff.
Ed Gamble
It is amazing stuff.
Jessica Hines
From the back of a van during lockdown.
Ed Gamble
Well, yes, because of course, you know, obviously I only drink it from a can because I drink non alcoholic Guinness now. And obviously you can get it from a can with a widget.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
But a lot of people would say that the, you know, the poured Guinness in Dublin is the most delicious, which I'm sure you would know. Have you been To Dublin.
Jessica Hines
Yes, I've been to Dublin and it is delicious.
Ed Gamble
But is it different?
Jessica Hines
I'm not sure I pick up on the nuances. Right, so there's plenty of places in London. I really enjoy Guinness, but it's also the surroundings. You're in Dublin, you're near the factory, so it's good to see the factory while you're drinking something.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, I agree.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, I feel like that about Ribena.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
James Acaster
Your dream dessert. Now, you've already said that you don't have a sweet tooth, so I'm a bit nervous because I do have a sweet tooth, even though I don't like sweet chili sauce. I love desserts, I love puddings.
Ed Gamble
Is this something that would have to go with the meal? The sort of absolute mess of the meal I've just described?
Jessica Hines
Just whatever you want, honestly, like, no.
James Acaster
One'S judging you for. And remember, you got that lassie there as a little bridge.
Ed Gamble
As a little bridge into sweetness.
James Acaster
Into sweetness. So it'd be a shame to go and do a savory dessert, wouldn't it?
Ed Gamble
Because, well, I do love. I mean. I mean, I feel so boring saying something like fruit like papaya or like mangoes and things like that, but that's just like, so delicious. Like, you know, I mean, I would love to have that as a pudding, but it is a bit boring, isn't it, just having a little bit of that. Oh, that lovely pink papaya. You know, when it's just so delicious and like. And it's. It's kind of rare. It's not unusual fruit. It's kind of. It's kind of exciting. It's a different kind of a fruit. So I would like that, like, sliced and also. And like fresh mango is also delicious and feels like a true. A treat fruit.
James Acaster
Yes.
Ed Gamble
So if I just kind of go into prison and say I would love treat fruits like fruits that you don't normally have. Like a Sharon fruit or maybe like a dragon fruit.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Maybe an assortment of treat fruits that you have to go to a special.
Jessica Hines
Shop to get the exotic. This more exotic side of fruits.
Ed Gamble
The exotic side of fruits. I think that's probably. Probably a way of saying that that would be my absolute, like. Oh, yes. Because then, you know, it's just everything is delicious.
Jessica Hines
What the listener can't see, if you're only listening in audio, is every time Jessica said treat fruits, she had a body movement for it.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Treat fruits.
James Acaster
Treat fruits. Yes. Both hands treat fruit. And it's like, bit Tommy Cooper.
Ed Gamble
Treat fruits.
James Acaster
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ed Gamble
That's it. But I love a treat fruit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love a treat fruit. Something that you wouldn't get maybe normally in your box.
James Acaster
Yeah, sure.
Ed Gamble
In your fruit box.
Jessica Hines
An organic fruit box. The banana's obviously not a treat fruit under that.
Ed Gamble
Do you love a banana, though?
Jessica Hines
But it is. It does feel like a treat every time. The banana.
Ed Gamble
One thing I would love to have, I guess. I guess, and this is, as a sort of segue, is. And this is a nostalgic pudding, is a banana split.
James Acaster
Oh, yeah.
Ed Gamble
I mean, for me, I have. A banana split is like the absolute. I mean, as a child, that was like the ultimate. If you got a banana split at the end of a meal out like, that was like the best day of your life, you know, like a banana split is just that and then the.
Jessica Hines
Cream in its own special bowl.
Ed Gamble
In its own special bowl. Bit of sauce, bit of whipped cream, bit of something on it. I love it. I mean, I love it. Who doesn't? Why aren't we having. Why aren't there more banana splits happening?
Jessica Hines
I was going to say, I feel sorry for the people who really thought banana splits would last forever and made the bowls. They must have been a company that were like, well, banana splits are going to be popular forever. So we're going to create.
Ed Gamble
Let's go into business.
Jessica Hines
We're going to. Let's go into business and create a whole new bowl. Because everything else you can just use for other stuff that what you're using. Banana split bowl, apart from a banana split.
James Acaster
Yeah. That's all you're using it for.
Ed Gamble
I know.
James Acaster
What a sad day for those people. Yeah, yeah, I'd take. What do you mean? No, no one wants banana splits anymore. Why not? They say they're for donkeys.
Ed Gamble
Why don't they want banana splits either?
Jessica Hines
I don't know. It feels like it'll be the next trend to come back around. Maybe.
Ed Gamble
Let's make it happen. I'm so up for it.
Jessica Hines
Well, you've got Soups and dips.
Ed Gamble
Soups and dips, Banana splits. Soups and dips, Banana splits. Welcome to my restaurant.
Jessica Hines
You have to be at the door to welcome us like that.
Ed Gamble
Welcome.
James Acaster
It's the full name. Soups and Dips. Banana Splits. Welcome to my restaurant. Because that. That would be great if that was the full name.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, that's the advert and the full name.
James Acaster
Yeah, yeah. I'd go to Soups and Dips, Banana Splits. Welcome to my restaurant. Restaurant, yeah.
Jessica Hines
Welcome to my restaurant.
James Acaster
Yeah, absolutely.
Jessica Hines
Gonna do it like that.
James Acaster
Yeah. I mean, I. I do think I. I would fully go in business with someone who was opening a banana split place.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
James Acaster
Like a hatch that just did banana splits. I'll invest in that.
Jessica Hines
They're quite difficult to eat on the. On the move, though. A banana split, I would say.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Jessica Hines
Yeah. So it'd have to be a seat. I think it would have to be seated.
Ed Gamble
There's a YouTube video of somebody who makes, like, banana, like, pancakes, I think, in street food somewhere in Thailand that I've somehow has popped up on my feed and that I've kind of. I don't know how.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Like, because I'm not on any social media, but maybe some sort of food algorithm.
James Acaster
Since your YouTube.
Ed Gamble
This is when I go YouTube this, like.
James Acaster
And it's just for a moment.
Jessica Hines
I thought you were saying it pops up on your feed, but you don't have any social media.
Ed Gamble
Well, I'm not.
Jessica Hines
So it's just coming up in front of your eyes.
Ed Gamble
It just sort of comes up on my phone. Yeah, but it. Maybe it's your husband.
James Acaster
I didn't ask for this, but.
Ed Gamble
But that. But they have like. Like little banana. Like that. I would like to try one.
Jessica Hines
Banana pancakes.
Ed Gamble
It's like banana pancakes.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
But I've seen, like, she does. She makes a sort of like stretchy pastry with a bit of, you know, so it's fresh every morning, the stretchy pastry. And then she kind of stretches it out, puts it in this big, kind of massive, great big wok and fry and then slices in the banana, folds that up, puts that in a little tray and then puts a bit of. I don't know what it is. It looks quite sugary. Looks like it could be some sort of condensed milk kind of style. Something like on the top of that little sliced banana. I mean, and that's a. I mean.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
I would like to try one of those one day. I would like to try one of those little banana pancakes one day.
Jessica Hines
I think that's a. That's a good goal in life.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Jessica Hines
One day I'd like to try that banana pancake.
James Acaster
Banana pancake.
Ed Gamble
I'd have to go to Thailand, but no objection to that.
Jessica Hines
You're in the dream restaurant.
Ed Gamble
I've never been.
James Acaster
My friend's getting married. Love Thai food in Thailand.
Ed Gamble
Love Thai food.
James Acaster
I've got a plus one.
Ed Gamble
Great.
James Acaster
You want to come?
Ed Gamble
Okay, sure.
James Acaster
You can come along. Get you those pancakes while we're there.
Ed Gamble
Great. I love Thai food.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Thai food. I did learn once, like, the basics of the Thai, like, so I Just thought, actually, once you get the Thai ingredients, you put it on anything and you're. It's instant Thai joy.
Jessica Hines
Can you tell us a secret?
James Acaster
Oh, well, Instant Thai joy.
Ed Gamble
It's coriander. Chopped coriander.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Lime fish sauce, garlic, a little bit of chili oil, Thai basil. Lemongrass. Chopped lemongrass.
James Acaster
There's no one as ever. Because it's a podcast.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
James Acaster
It means that no one could really appreciate that who was listening, but no one has adopted that pose. We've got. We've got. We've got a video of it. So. So we'll try and put that out somewhere.
Jessica Hines
No, it was. No, it was more like this.
James Acaster
You were like that. You went like this. So you had. You had your hand on your hip like I'm a little teacup. But also your hand on your chin with your elbow just as far out as your other elbow was. And extremely straight back posture. Yeah, yeah. And it was. It was as you were trying to think of what's in the. Yeah, the tie magic. Yeah, it was. It was great.
Jessica Hines
You look like a sort of wax model of an inventor in like a living history museum, maybe.
Ed Gamble
I take that as a compliment.
James Acaster
Yeah. Like if they did another night at the museum.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, yeah.
James Acaster
You'd be like, come to life as an inventor. Just thinking about something.
Jessica Hines
Thinking about Thai ingredients would like that.
James Acaster
Yeah. I'll read your menu back to you now, see how you feel about it.
Ed Gamble
Okay.
James Acaster
You would like sparkling water with lemon.
Ed Gamble
Yes, please. Oh, thank you.
James Acaster
You want popping on with all the dips? Putting them on there like a pizza starter. You would like lentil soup from the rest. Yeah. For the place in Budapest, but also made by yourself, I guess.
Ed Gamble
Could be. But obviously that would be ideal if they could provide that.
Jessica Hines
Yeah. Oh, yeah, we can sort of.
Ed Gamble
So that's kind of. I guess that's Syrian lentil soup.
James Acaster
Yeah, Syrian lentil soup. Starter, main course, artichoke tempura along with the finely chopped green salad and walnuts, baba ghanoush and hummus.
Ed Gamble
Yes. Oh, God.
James Acaster
Delicious side dish, fried halloumi with sweet chili sauce.
Ed Gamble
Oh, come on.
James Acaster
Drink sparkling water with lime and then you're gonna have a lussy to bridge yourself over to the treat. Fruits?
Ed Gamble
Yes, please.
Jessica Hines
Did you want a banana split as well on there?
Ed Gamble
Do you know what? Just as a. As it's a special occasion. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
James Acaster
Well, banana.
Jessica Hines
Banana split with some treat fruits around.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
And then we'll send over just to.
Ed Gamble
Just to get. To put me to sleep.
James Acaster
Yeah, yeah. Then an alcohol free Guinness at The end.
Ed Gamble
Oh, wow. Maybe. Maybe a little while after it. After a lot of that suggestion. Maybe in the pub afterwards.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
So I've done had a bit of a walk around, gone to a pub. Alcohol free Guinness.
James Acaster
Who would you want to go to the pub with? In the dream?
Ed Gamble
Everybody.
James Acaster
What?
Ed Gamble
Everyone's invited. Whoever, obviously I was out with. What do you mean? Like just. You mean literally or in the fantasy world, your dream?
Jessica Hines
Well, yeah, obviously in the fantasy world, we're not making you go to the.
James Acaster
Pub now, but like you're going to the pub now and have your Guinness after your dream meal.
Ed Gamble
All of my best friends and my family.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
That would be great.
James Acaster
Yeah, that's also good.
Jessica Hines
Who's your best friend?
James Acaster
Who's your best friend? What?
Ed Gamble
Well, don't say one doesn't count. Okay, listen, I've got a lot of people I love in my life, but my oldest friend is my friend Siobhan who I met in primary school. And she has told the story that she said she was new. We were like four. And then the teacher said, oh, Jessica, you have to look after Siobhan. And she said, I basically just took that literally and was like, so in my mind that was like, oh, for the rest of your life. So that's how that I took on that responsibility very heartily.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
So now, now we're still friends? Still best friends.
Jessica Hines
Perfect.
James Acaster
That's great.
Jessica Hines
The perfect companion.
James Acaster
That's great. I want to see a film of that.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
James Acaster
Or a sitcom.
Ed Gamble
I've got some good pictures of us. We were super cute.
James Acaster
Would she have an alcohol free Guinness with you?
Ed Gamble
Yeah, she would. She might have a little bit of a red wine. Maybe. Maybe, maybe she might not have an alcohol free Guinness. It's a particular tipple, alcohol. I think Alcor free Guinness is somebody who probably really liked drinking in the past. I feel like that's probably. It's a bit of a giveaway.
James Acaster
Yeah, yeah.
Jessica Hines
And that menu sounds absolutely delicious.
James Acaster
It does sound great. And thank you. Look, thank you so much for.
Jessica Hines
Right, fantastic. It's normally me wraps the episode up. James has tried it for the first.
Ed Gamble
Time and he's got burp on cue.
James Acaster
No, no, that wasn't on cue.
Jessica Hines
That wasn't on cue. I hope it wasn't on cue. He's very rude.
Ed Gamble
Can anyone. Can anyone?
James Acaster
Basically, I decided not to hold it in at the end because I thought I've already done a little bit. The rule of comedy.
Ed Gamble
Let it out.
James Acaster
Let it out.
Ed Gamble
I'm not part of it. Let it out.
James Acaster
Bonito looked like he was going to cry.
Jessica Hines
Yes.
James Acaster
He looked at me. Absolutely. So upset because he's got headphones on. Yeah, yeah. He had to believe it. Yeah.
Jessica Hines
Nice one. Thanks so much for coming to the Dream Restaurant, Jessica.
Ed Gamble
It's been an absolute pleasure. Thank you for having me.
Jessica Hines
There we go. Wonderful stuff.
James Acaster
There's so much stuff I wanted to ask and I forgot it. I've just remembered all of it.
Jessica Hines
Oh, no, tell me. Ask me.
James Acaster
I wanted to know if there's a film in the works of her team on Shaun of the Dead. People have been asking about that for years and years. They want there to be a film.
Jessica Hines
I'm guessing not. It's been quite a long time.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Jessica Hines
But it's the anniversary of.
James Acaster
It would be absolutely brilliant.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
James Acaster
It'd be brilliant if it was that tv. Maybe there's another zombie outbreak, but wasn't.
Jessica Hines
The joke that they look exactly the same and they're having the same experience but crossing paths?
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Jessica Hines
So the same film with different actors.
James Acaster
Do a new one now. Like do a second zombie outbreak, but you follow her gang.
Jessica Hines
Who else was in the gang?
James Acaster
Matt Lucas, Shearsmith.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
James Acaster
Martin Freeman.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
James Acaster
And Tamsen Krieg.
Jessica Hines
Yeah. Well done.
James Acaster
Maybe there are other people on it in that group, but I don't know.
Jessica Hines
That seems right.
James Acaster
I wanted to ask her as well about when she, her and Simon Pegg hosted a benefit show for when the tsunami happened in early 2000s or mid 2000 at the Apollo. And you could buy it on. I bought it on dvd.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
James Acaster
Watched it at home. Johnny Vegas got absolutely smashed and his set is bedlam and in the edit, like Jessica's, to come out and get him.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
James Acaster
And go, johnny, it's over now. So I wanted to know how long he did on the night, what the panic was like backstage. I wanted to know all about that because this is before I became a comedian. I watched it and it blew my mind that this thing had happened and they'd released it and I found that fascinating. And I've met. Met him a few times, but don't want to ask him.
Jessica Hines
No.
James Acaster
About that.
Jessica Hines
He won't remember.
James Acaster
No. But I definitely wanted to ask Jessica and I've completely forgot to do it.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
James Acaster
So, yeah, I have to get her back.
Jessica Hines
I'm kind of glad you didn't ask her that.
James Acaster
Really?
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
James Acaster
Why?
Jessica Hines
I liked all the food chat we had and stuff.
James Acaster
Yeah. Actually, I mean, I know regrets about the things we did talk about. I was laughing throughout because she's laughing.
Jessica Hines
She's so funny.
James Acaster
It's Absolutely brilliant. And she didn't say Heinz baked beans, of course.
Jessica Hines
No, she didn't. Welcome to my restaurant.
James Acaster
She did say, welcome to my restaurant front. She said that Kale's for donkey.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
James Acaster
A lot of great things.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
James Acaster
So everyone should obviously, if you want to hear Jessica say more great things.
Jessica Hines
Yes.
James Acaster
Watch the franchise.
Jessica Hines
Watch the franchise.
James Acaster
Sky comedy. And now.
Jessica Hines
And now do go and watch that. I'm gonna go watch it.
James Acaster
I'm gonna go and watch it. Audition for it.
Jessica Hines
Of course.
James Acaster
Rightfully didn't get it.
Jessica Hines
Yeah. Him got it.
James Acaster
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The proper actor. Been in, like Christopher Nolan films. Yes. Yeah, yeah. And you know what? It was an honor to be up for the same role. I'd seriously considered as much as he was.
Jessica Hines
Seriously considered as much as he was.
James Acaster
It means a lot to me that they.
Jessica Hines
Yeah. That I'd imagine you auditioned in between them sending the email, offering it to him when. And then there was like a day just before his agent replied. And that's when they did your audition. So they could just fill a bit of time.
James Acaster
Yeah, yeah. Bonito's just got out to take a phone call. So for the listener.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
James Acaster
We've been left completely.
Jessica Hines
The Monkeys are in charge of the bus.
James Acaster
The Monkeys are in charge of the bus. And we're going straight to Foolish town. Here's. I have so much to edit out now. Quick, quick little announcement before he gets back. If you want to win a signed chopping board, buy the Great Bonito. All you have to do is tweet the off menu, official Twitter saying the. Hello. That's all you gotta do. Yeah.
Jessica Hines
If you, hello.
James Acaster
Tweet hello. And there's no time limit on this.
Jessica Hines
Yeah. And Benito will get in contact with you.
James Acaster
Yep.
Jessica Hines
Get your address.
James Acaster
Yep. And he will sign the chopping board and send it to you.
Jessica Hines
Open ended.
James Acaster
It's open ended. So this never expires. Yeah. This offer.
Jessica Hines
Oh, and here's something else you need to know.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Jessica Hines
The Great Bonito has skid marks all over his pants.
James Acaster
Yeah. Whoa. We said we weren't ever gonna reveal that. Yeah.
Jessica Hines
But I didn't ever think the Monkeys would be in charge of the bus.
James Acaster
The Monkeys are in charge of the bus. That guy's got skid marks all over his und. I know. Everybody knows about it. So listen, if you want to win two chopping boards, you tweet, hello, full stop. How are you? How are those skitties looking?
Jessica Hines
Bonito.
James Acaster
Bonita. Yeah. And then hashtag, the Monkeys are in charge of the bus.
Jessica Hines
That's two chopping boards.
James Acaster
That's two. That's if you want two chopping boards. If you want just one, you just wait. Hello. And that's fine. If you want two, it's hello. Pull. Stop. How are those skinnies looking? Bonita Hash Bugs are in charge of the bus.
Jessica Hines
Thank you very much for listening to the off menu podcast. We I think it's that button that you press, James.
James Acaster
Yeah, I'll press this button.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
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Ed Gamble
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James Acaster
We are back for season six of a very merry, iconic podcast here in 2024. It's good to be here. I'm so excited. We're going to be covering holiday classics. We are diving back into the Halloween town franchise for our annual Halloween episode. We're going to be covering part two, Calabar's Revenge. Calabar's Revenge. We're also going to be talking about miracle on 34th Street. I also have a Hallmark Christmas movie coming out this year. Deck the Walls.
Ed Gamble
Yes.
James Acaster
The Day After Thanksgiving. Maybe we'll cover that. Yes. As well as diving into some of these other seasonal films that we love so much and others that sometimes we don't love so much.
Jessica Hines
Yeah.
James Acaster
And we'll talk about it and hash it out. So what do we always say? Pour yourself some eggnog and enjoy a very merry on a podcast cup. Holiday season 2,024. Maybe even out now. So check your podcast feeds. Acast helps creators launch, grow and monetize their podcasts everywhere. Acast comfort.
Off Menu with Ed Gamble and James Acaster: Episode 268 Featuring Jessica Hynes
Introduction In Episode 268 of Off Menu with Ed Gamble and James Acaster, released on October 23, 2024, comedians Ed Gamble and James Acaster welcome acclaimed actress, writer, and comedian Jessica Hynes to their whimsical Dream Restaurant. The trio embarks on a delightful culinary journey, exploring Jessica's favorite foods across various courses while sharing personal anecdotes and humorous banter.
Guest Introduction The episode begins with warm introductions, highlighting Jessica Hynes' illustrious career and her recent projects. James Acaster enthusiastically mentions their shared history with the cult classic Spaced and her involvement in the new comedy series, The Franchise.
Jessica Hynes [04:08]: "Jessica Hynes, just national treasure alert. Absolutely. Ring a ding, ding. National treasure."
Starter: Lentil Soup Ed Gamble kicks off the meal by discussing his beloved lentil soup, inspired by a memorable experience in a Syrian restaurant in Budapest. He emphasizes the essential role of lemon in elevating the soup's flavor.
Ed Gamble [27:05]: "My starter, and this isn't as simple as you might think, but it's lentil soup."
Main Course: Artichoke Tempura The conversation transitions to the main course, where Ed shares his passion for artichoke tempura, a dish perfected during lockdown. He describes the meticulous process of selecting high-quality artichokes and the satisfying crunch they add to the meal.
Ed Gamble [38:24]: "It really was artichoke tempura. Why wouldn't you."
Side Dish: Fried Halloumi James Acaster introduces his favorite side dish: fried halloumi paired with sweet chili sauce. The trio humorously debates the merits of various dipping sauces, with Jessica expressing her preference for garlic mayo over sweet chili.
Ed Gamble [49:31]: "Would probably be fried halloumi just comes off the top of my head."
Dessert: Banana Split Despite admitting a lesser sweet tooth, Jessica chooses the classic banana split as her dream dessert. The conversation veers into nostalgic memories associated with the dessert, highlighting its enduring appeal.
Ed Gamble [63:18]: "I love it. Who doesn't?"
Drink: Sparkling Water with Lemon and Lime For drinks, both hosts opt for non-alcoholic choices. Ed favors a sparkling water with a generous squeeze of lemon, while James enjoys alcohol-free Guinness, reminiscing about its rich taste restored during lockdown.
Ed Gamble [56:43]: "I don't drink alcohol. So my dream drink is different because obviously in every situation sometimes it's an alcohol free beer."
Personal Anecdotes and Humorous Banter Throughout the episode, the hosts and Jessica share lighthearted stories, such as Ed's experiences with bulk buying during the pandemic and James's adventures with celery and lemon juice. Their playful interactions, including jokes about script supervisors and mishaps in the kitchen, add a layer of humor and relatability to the conversation.
James Acaster [24:07]: "The Monkeys are in charge of the bus."
Conclusion and Final Thoughts As the meal concludes, the trio reflects on their shared love for diverse cuisines and the joy of crafting the perfect dream menu. Jessica Hynes expresses her appreciation for the engaging discussion and the opportunity to share her favorite dishes.
Jessica Hynes [71:56]: "Thank you so much for coming to the Dream Restaurant, Jessica."
Notable Quotes
Conclusion Episode 268 of Off Menu with Ed Gamble and James Acaster offers listeners an entertaining blend of culinary exploration and comedic flair. Jessica Hynes' delightful participation, combined with the hosts' infectious enthusiasm, makes for a memorable episode that celebrates both food and friendship.