Ep 270: Sebastian Stan

Summary

Off Menu with Ed Gamble and James Acaster – Episode 270: Sebastian Stan

Introduction

In Episode 270 of Off Menu with Ed Gamble and James Acaster, comedians Ed Gamble and James Acaster welcome acclaimed actor Sebastian Stan to their whimsical Dream Restaurant. The episode, released on November 6, 2024, delves deep into Sebastian's latest endeavors, his personal tastes, and lighthearted banter about pranks and favorite foods. Drawing listeners into an engaging and humorous conversation, the hosts explore Sebastian's perspectives both on-screen and off.

Exploring "A Different Man"

The conversation kicks off with Sebastian Stan introducing his new film, A Different Man, a psychological thriller comedy that explores themes of identity and transformation. Sebastian describes the film as a "passing the torch" narrative, emphasizing the shift from non-disabled actors portraying characters with disabilities to actors with disabilities seamlessly fitting into diverse roles.

Sebastian Stan [05:02]: "A Different Man is a psychological thriller comedy about a man who undergoes facial reconstruction surgery only to become obsessed with the actor who plays him in a stage production based on his former life."

Ed Gamble expresses excitement about the film's innovative approach, noting Sebastian's co-star, Adam Pearson, and his versatile work in British television. James Acaster adds, highlighting the film's unique narrative that challenges conventional casting norms and fosters meaningful conversations about representation in the industry.

Behind the Scenes: Pranks and Set Stories

Transitioning from film discussions, the episode takes a playful turn as Sebastian shares anecdotes about pranks and humorous incidents on set. Ed and James engage Sebastian in a light-hearted dialogue about potential pranks involving fellow actors like Anthony Mackie, blending humor with creative ideas for future escapades.

Ed Gamble [06:09]: "Yes, we will. And the secret ingredient this week is winter peas."

Sebastian muses about pranking celebrities, suggesting scenarios where pranks could intertwine with their professional lives without crossing boundaries. The trio laughs over ideas like surprise rap battles and playful setups that would leave guests both amused and bewildered.

Crafting the Dream Menu

A significant portion of the episode revolves around constructing Sebastian Stan's Dream Menu, where guests outline their ideal starter, main course, side dish, dessert, and drink. This segment showcases the hosts' ability to blend culinary desires with personal anecdotes, creating a vivid and appetizing picture of Sebastian's favorite foods.

• Starter: Sebastian selects anchovies on toast from Via Corona in New York, appreciating the blend of simple ingredients that deliver robust flavors.

  Sebastian Stan [27:31]: "Do you remember that?"

• Main Course: James Acaster chooses spaghetti and meatballs, praising its nostalgic and hearty nature, while Ed Gamble suggests a versatile potato platter with an assortment of preparations.

  James Acaster [33:25]: "I mean, is there anything better than, like, spaghetti and meatballs?"

• Side Dish: A combination of crispy fries and a butter lettuce salad, incorporating fresh and crunchy elements that complement the main course.

  Ed Gamble [42:01]: "We could get you a potato platter with all the different potatoes."

• Dessert: Jenny's Ice Cream from the US, with James highlighting its diverse flavors like peanut butter chocolate and brownie swirl, perfect for satisfying any sweet tooth.

  James Acaster [55:27]: "I don't know why. It's phenomenal. It's the best ice cream I've had."

• Drink: An Empress gin martini with a twist, noted for its unique presentation and refined taste that elevates the entire dining experience.

  James Acaster [47:13]: "It's somewhere between a really chilled gin martini with a twist or a Negroni Empress gin."

Throughout the menu creation, the hosts and Sebastian exchange stories related to food, childhood memories, and the emotional connections tied to certain dishes. This segment not only highlights their personal preferences but also underscores the universal joy of sharing and savoring food.

Nostalgia and Cultural References

The episode is peppered with references to classic shows and films, invoking a sense of nostalgia among listeners. Discussions touch upon beloved programs like Gladiators, Waiting for Guffman, and Spinal Tap, blending cultural commentary with personal reflections.

James Acaster [37:31]: "I was a big wrestling fan for the same reason."

Sebastian shares memories of Kinder Eggs and their collectible toys, reminiscing about his childhood fascination with unique and playful treats. These conversations paint a picture of shared cultural experiences, fostering a warm and relatable atmosphere.

Humor and Light-Hearted Banter

Ed and James excel in maintaining a humorous and relaxed tone throughout the episode. From witty exchanges about the challenges of creating the perfect dish to playful teasing about pranks gone wrong, the hosts ensure that the conversation remains entertaining and engaging.

Ed Gamble [66:36]: "We're gonna prank the out."

Their ability to seamlessly transition between topics while keeping the humor intact makes for an enjoyable listening experience, even for those unfamiliar with the podcast.

Conclusion

As the episode wraps up, Ed Gamble and James Acaster express their appreciation for Sebastian Stan's participation, highlighting the delightful mix of insightful discussions and spontaneous humor. The hosts hint at future collaborations and potential prank ideas, leaving listeners anticipating more engaging content in upcoming episodes.

Ed Gamble [65:30]: "This has been shared with me multiple times this morning."

Overall, Episode 270 of Off Menu offers a rich and entertaining exploration of Sebastian Stan's career, personal tastes, and the camaraderie between the hosts and their guest. Through a blend of meaningful dialogue and lighthearted humor, Ed and James create a memorable episode that resonates with both fans of the podcast and newcomers alike.

Notable Quotes

• Sebastian Stan [05:02]: "A Different Man is a psychological thriller comedy about a man who undergoes facial reconstruction surgery only to become obsessed with the actor who plays him in a stage production based on his former life."

• James Acaster [47:13]: "It's somewhere between a really chilled gin martini with a twist or a Negroni Empress gin."

• Ed Gamble [66:36]: "We're gonna prank the out."

Timestamp Highlights

• [05:02]: Introduction to Sebastian's new film, A Different Man.
• [27:31]: Discussion about anchovies on toast as a favorite starter.
• [33:25]: James chooses spaghetti and meatballs as his main course.
• [55:27]: James highlights Jenny's Ice Cream as his dream dessert.
• [47:13]: Selection of Empress gin martini as a favorite drink.
• [66:36]: Ed hints at future prank ideas involving Anthony Mackie.

Final Thoughts

This episode stands out for its balanced blend of depth and levity, offering listeners a comprehensive look into Sebastian Stan's projects and personal preferences while maintaining the signature humor that Off Menu is known for. Whether you're a fan of the hosts, Sebastian Stan, or simply enjoy engaging conversations about food and films, Episode 270 is a savory treat worth tuning into.

Transcript

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[James Acaster]

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[Sebastian Stan]

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[James Acaster]

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[Sebastian Stan]

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[James Acaster]

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[Sebastian Stan]

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[James Acaster]

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[Sebastian Stan]

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[James Acaster]

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[Sebastian Stan]

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[James Acaster]

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[Sebastian Stan]

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[James Acaster]

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[Sebastian Stan]

I mean, honestly, when I started this, I thought I only have to do like four of these. I mean it's unlimited to Premium Wireless.

[James Acaster]

For $15 a month.

[Sebastian Stan]

How are there still people paying two or three times that much? I'm sorry, I shouldn't be victim blaming. Here, give it a [e-mail] switch whenever you're ready. 45 upfront payment equivalent to 15 per month. New customers on first 3 month plan only. Taxes and fees, extra Speed slower above 40 gigabytes. C details.

[Ed Gamble]

Welcome to the off menu podcast. Taking the pickle of conversation, dipping it in the batter of friendship, frying it in the oil of humor. Fried pickles.

[Sebastian Stan]

Freckles.

[Ed Gamble]

Freckles.

[Sebastian Stan]

That's it. Gamble. My name is James Acaster. Together we own a dream restaurant. Every single week we invite the guests and ask them their favorite ever start a main course, dessert side dish and drink. Not in that order. And this week our guest is Sebastian Stan.

[Ed Gamble]

I like freckles, man, but sometimes when they're the big spears, there's too much liquid in them. So I prefer a freckle that's slice.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah, I like it to be in like coined coins. Coins.

[Ed Gamble]

Freckle coins.

[Sebastian Stan]

They're nice. Yeah. When they're, when they're long, they're going to be full of molten pickle juice and you're in big trouble if you bite into that. Sebastian Stan is a wonderful actor.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes.

[Sebastian Stan]

He's huge. Stan Stans. We like so many of his movies.

[Ed Gamble]

Don't, please don't say that to him.

[Sebastian Stan]

Huh?

[Ed Gamble]

Don't. Don't say I'm a Stan Stan to him.

[Sebastian Stan]

I bet he's never heard that before.

[Ed Gamble]

Because sometimes these Hollywood actors, they don't know what's going to happen, do they? They, you know, they're going around all day, they're being thrown into situations to talk about their films. And I don't know how Sebastian Stan is going to react to, let's be honest, an odd man.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yes.

[Ed Gamble]

Saying I'll be Stanstan.

[Sebastian Stan]

Sure. These people have said I'm a Stan Stan to him before.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, but not immediately in a professional context because, you know, this is a small studio. I think he's going to be scared. And then I know you're going to bring up Marvel and some of your theories.

[Sebastian Stan]

All I heard is that you see this as a professional context for him. He's been told it is compliment received.

[Ed Gamble]

He doesn't know what he's coming into he thinks it's a professional context.

[Sebastian Stan]

Well, listen, talking about professional context, A Different man is out now.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes.

[Sebastian Stan]

Is Sebastian's new film.

[Ed Gamble]

That's the name of the film. We're not saying it's a different guest now. We're not saying he's canceled while we've been talking.

[Sebastian Stan]

Because I said I was a standstill.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, A different man is coming in.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah, yeah. No, a different man is here because I've blown it. A Different man is a psychological thriller comedy about a man who undergoes facial reconstruction surgery only to become obsessed with the actor who plays him in a stage production based on his former life.

[Ed Gamble]

It sounds super fascinating. I'm really excited to see it.

[Sebastian Stan]

And also the film is the Passing the torch from non disabled actors portraying characters with disabilities to actors with disabilities playing who they want to play. So beyond villain, victim or outcast roles, I think it's really exciting.

[Ed Gamble]

I didn't read that. If anything, he just came up with that.

[Sebastian Stan]

I just came up with it. I just know it anyway because I'm a Stan. Stan. Yeah. But, like, I'm really excited to go because, like, the storyline itself already has got me hooked. But also, like, what the film is doing beyond that also is, like, really exciting and interesting. So I'm really looking forward to hearing what Sebastian has to say about the film.

[Ed Gamble]

Absolutely. His co star is Adam Pearson, who has been, you know, I think, a bit of a mainstay of British tv. I've seen him on various things, so I'm excited to see how he tackles this role. Very exciting.

[Sebastian Stan]

Very excited to have Sebastian on the podcast. But of course, if he says the secret ingredient, an ingredient which we deem to be unacceptable, we will have to kick him out of the dream restaurant.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes, we will. And the secret ingredient this week is winter peas. Winter peas, of course. Sebastian played Bucky, the winter soldier in the Marvel universe.

[Sebastian Stan]

So winter.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes, winter.

[Sebastian Stan]

And then we googled what foods have the word winter in them.

[Ed Gamble]

Well, that's not true. You said winter peas straight off the bat.

[Sebastian Stan]

I did.

[Ed Gamble]

And then we googled to check if winter peas were a thing Benito did.

[Sebastian Stan]

Bonito rarely thinks. I've got it right.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes.

[Sebastian Stan]

So he googled it first.

[Ed Gamble]

Everything that James has ever said.

[Sebastian Stan]

So I said winter peas. And he was like, well, I'm going to Google an actual thing that has the word winter in them. And he was like, oh, fair enough.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes.

[Sebastian Stan]

But yeah, he admits it, that I was right.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. Well, let's speak to Sebastian Stan, shall we? James?

[Sebastian Stan]

Yes.

[Ed Gamble]

This is the off menu menu of Sebastian Stan. Welcome, Sebastian, to the Dream Restaurant.

[James Acaster]

Hello.

[Sebastian Stan]

Welcome, Sebastian Stan, to the Dream Restaurant. But it's been here for some time.

[James Acaster]

Thank you.

[Ed Gamble]

Were you surprised by the genie there?

[James Acaster]

Yes. Yes, I was.

[Sebastian Stan]

It's very nice of you to say that to us. You were surprised? Have you ever had like a surprise like that on set? An explosion go off when it wasn't supposed to?

[James Acaster]

Yeah. Somebody brought in that fart machine at one point. You know the one where you put under the seat.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

And that one was going around for a little while. That was sort of funny because you could be having a really intense conversation.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

But it still works. It still gets people laughing.

[Ed Gamble]

It's good stuff. Even I was, you know, I wasn't there for that. But even just the description of the fart machine, I'm on board with it as a joke. Yeah.

[James Acaster]

It's always a good time.

[Sebastian Stan]

I imagine, though, it depends where you are. Whoever bought that fart machine in. I reckon there's a certain place down the call sheet where past there, you can't be the guy who's bringing in the fart machine. If you're pretty new and you're still feeling it out with people. Yeah. And the fart machine goes off and number one on the call sheet was the one who is meant to look like they farted. They're gonna go, okay.

[James Acaster]

I think it's usually. Yeah, I think it has to be, you know, you have to be in it for a couple weeks and get to know people's humor and stuff. I once worked on this movie and we all got along really well. And then I remember it was one of the actors birthdays and I got them like a whole animal farm. Like there were like rabbits and llamas and pigs and like everything. They just came with everything at the trailer and, you know, they were so surprised to find geese like coming out of the trail. But, you know, it has to be. Yeah. I may not, you know, I wouldn't want to do that to like Daniel Day Lewis or something. And it has to be the right kind of film and whatever, you know.

[Ed Gamble]

Unless his character that he was playing, he'd love it like a farmer. In which case that would be fantastic for him, wouldn't it? He'd love to.

[James Acaster]

Yeah. I mean, listen, he's. I was just reading. He's. He's made a cameo in his son's movie. So he's. He's returned after seven years, even for a little bit. But we'll take it. Right.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah. Interesting. A method actor making a cameo in their kids. Because then he's in character around his son all the time. Surely his son at some point is.

[James Acaster]

Going to go, dad, I wonder. Yeah, I wonder. I don't know what the part is, but, you know, I'm sure it's just as committed as always.

[Sebastian Stan]

Well, apparently he'd go home in character anyway, so I'm sure his son's seen it all before. Yeah, yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

He's never met his dad.

[Sebastian Stan]

He doesn't know who his dad is. A striggle of characters. Let's talk about a different man. Your new film, what can you tell people about it who don't know about it?

[James Acaster]

Oh, Jesus. I mean, it's just like. It's like a Rubik's Cube trying to explain it. I'll just say that most people that see it go, I've never seen anything like this movie. And that's usually a good sign in the world where we're like getting everything all the time in a trailer. It's just one of those films where I think you don't anticipate what happens. And it's. Long story short, it's about an actor who has neurofibromatosis, which is a real thing, real condition. And he decides to go under, undergo a reconstruction surgery for his face and desperately wants to fit into the world and look like everybody else. And he successfully undergoes it and then instead of all of his sort of preconceived dreams coming true, his life turns down a spiral of self hatred and obsession and identity breakdown. And the way that sort of happens is really, really unique and very funny and also like supremely tragic.

[Sebastian Stan]

I love, I mean, it's quite exciting, the theme of the film about who should play certain roles as well. That's one of the themes that's in there. And you must have had loads of like great conversations on set about what you wanted to do with the film and different people's opinions. Did it lead to interesting conversations away from the film as well in your, in your life, in your job that came from like your experience of doing this?

[James Acaster]

Well, yeah. I mean, Aaron Schinberg, who wrote it and directed it, is disfigured himself. He's got a cleft palate. And his previous film as well, sort of dealt with, you know, disfigurement and disability and sort of our uncomfortability around it and the lack of conversation around it. And he encountered in his previous film by casting Adam Pearson, who's great in this film, a lot of backlash towards the fact that maybe him being accused of sort of exploiting Adams by casting him. So then when he was writing this movie, he thought, well, I can't really get an actor just in prosthetics because then I'm not representing, you know, in the right way. So if I'm trying to cast someone appropriate and I'm accused of exploitation, and then I'm casting an abled actor play someone disfigured, and I'm also getting accused for that, then ultimately nothing happens and nothing moves forward and there's no conversation out of it. So he was like, okay, I'm going to make a movie where I can do both, and I'm just going to kind of see how it translates, and I'm going to have these two characters sort of go at each other. And it's incredibly smart because I feel like he really flips in the movie. All of these misconceptions that we have about, you know, what a disabled person should be like or what kind of roles we've seen them in. I mean, Adam in this film is such a different character than we have ever seen him play, period. But even then we would have imagined him. So he's really found a way to kind of a get the movie made and also find a way to bring people to kind of talk about it and offer, like, a further perspective on it.

[Sebastian Stan]

Incredible. We're going to get into your dream menu in a minute.

[Ed Gamble]

It's such an interesting discussion about films, but now we do have to be really stupid for a bit.

[James Acaster]

Yes, that's fine.

[Sebastian Stan]

From a different man to a different menu. Sebastian.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, lovely. The perfect link, would you say?

[James Acaster]

Well, you are what you eat.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you were in one film in fresh. You were what you ate. You were eating humans.

[James Acaster]

That's right, yeah.

[Sebastian Stan]

Remember that?

[James Acaster]

Yes.

[Sebastian Stan]

That was wild.

[James Acaster]

I do, yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

A lot of James's questions to actors are to say a film and then go, do you remember that? Which we're assuming you do.

[Sebastian Stan]

Actually, not all actors we've had on do remember that.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, I do. I mean, that was. That was a lot of fun.

[Sebastian Stan]

Well, the same when you're. You're preparing it all, it actually genuinely looks quite delicious for a second there, which is worrying.

[James Acaster]

Well, there was a chef on set who was preparing things right on the. On the dot. But it's interesting when something gets passed and you label it a certain way because then you're looking at it differently and kind of looking for things in the. In the meatballs, you know. But that movie, it's funny, I hear a lot about that movie. People still kind of come up and ask me about it. And I never. I never. I never knew how it was going to. It was going to do.

[Sebastian Stan]

I think. I think because it messes with your head a bit, that film, because it does make you. You're a very charismatic cannibal killer. And you do make the food look pretty delicious. It does get in the audience's heads more than if you were just like some crazed monster who we were terrified of. You kind of go, oh, maybe I want to be a cannibal, actually, because Sebastian Stan made it look quite nice.

[James Acaster]

I think that that's what was interesting about that movie. Because the way that the writer had written it, she made it so normal in a way. It was, you know, everybody, we were all like, let's just try and play this as real as possible. We're not going for shock or laughs or whatever it was just. And then maybe the audience will get behind it. But, yeah, I mean. I mean, I think the music alone in that movie made me want to be a part of it, maybe even more than the subject matter.

[Sebastian Stan]

We always start with still or sparkling water.

[James Acaster]

Sparkling. It's sparkling all the way to the point where sometimes I worry that I'm. Is sparkling even real water?

[Sebastian Stan]

Well, this is the thing. It's the ongoing debate.

[Ed Gamble]

I think there was actually. There was some science came out recently. I'm across the science.

[Sebastian Stan]

I know you're across the science.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, I'm across the science, man. I get all the papers. And apparently sparkling water has been proven to be as hydrating as still water. Cause that was always the thing, right? People were like, it's not hydrating you. Cause you're just drinking all the fizz and the bubbles. But I think, yeah, you'll be fine. You can just drink it all day long.

[Sebastian Stan]

What do you love about it?

[James Acaster]

It's refreshing. I feel like I don't. You know, for still water, I have to drink, like, room temperature. I can't drink it cold. But then sparkling water has to be out of a fridge. Yeah, I feel like it can be. It can give you that satisfaction.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah. If you were to, in a scene, have to down a bottle of still water and act like it was refreshing, would that be the biggest acting challenge?

[James Acaster]

Yeah, sure.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah, yeah. Be pretty huge.

[James Acaster]

I recently had to down water as vodka. Right. Like in the thing. And that was like a very funny situation to kind of try and do.

[Sebastian Stan]

Say, Hugh Jackman, punk. Taryn Edgerton. In an interview they did. He pretended to down a miniature of vodka. At the start of their interview and completely. Taryn Edgerton was like, you are crazy.

[James Acaster]

But it was water.

[Sebastian Stan]

It was water.

[Ed Gamble]

But he absolutely nailed it. Yeah.

[Sebastian Stan]

Made him look like a dick in front of everyone, in front of the press. There's a junk kit going on. They're like, absolutely fuming for the rest of the day. I imagine he's very funny.

[James Acaster]

Hugh Jackman. Yeah, he really. I mean, I've only met him a couple of times, but I get a sense that he'd be a lot of fun to work with.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

He's bringing the fart machine.

[James Acaster]

He probably would.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah, he's the fart machine guy.

[James Acaster]

Break into Les Mis.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah. As soon as it happens. You usually get put with Anthony Mackie with junkets when it's like, Marvel stuff. So you two have to sit. I do the interviews together.

[James Acaster]

Yeah. Yeah. I'm pretty sure that happened because about six or seven years ago, because I. I was so bad at junkets. I was always so quiet that they're like, we need to give him the loudest man on the planet to revive him. And he. And he does. I mean, Anthony is just so. You guys would have such a blast with him on the show. Like, he. He's. He's big time.

[Sebastian Stan]

I see him in an interview. Has he got a boat or something? Or is that just in the show that you guys did?

[James Acaster]

No, no, no.

[Sebastian Stan]

I think that was just in Falcon Winter Soldier.

[James Acaster]

He has a boat. I think he has a boat. He also goes fishing. He goes hunting.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

He's been trying to get me down there to go hunting with him for a long time. I'm like, Anthony, I don't. Can you imagine me with a rifle down there in the backwoods of New Orleans? I mean. But it would be fun. I think we should. I would do that with him in filming because it just would be ridiculous, you know, in a good way.

[Sebastian Stan]

Oh, people would watch a whole series of you two going hunting together.

[James Acaster]

Yeah. Into the wild. But he loves that thing. Like, you know, he'd be the one to. On that. There's those shows, you know, that take actors and put them on a mountain and then they have to kind of, like, survive. Yeah. That wouldn't be me.

[Ed Gamble]

That wouldn't be you.

[James Acaster]

No.

[Ed Gamble]

How long do you think you could survive on a mountain?

[Sebastian Stan]

What's he got with it? What have they given him?

[Ed Gamble]

Good question. I don't think it's. I'm not thinking of that show. Naked and Afraid. You know that show?

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah. That's when they're naked yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

You've got more than that. I'm imagining like you've got some water.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah. I mean he's not sign up to Naked and Afraid, is he? Sebastian Stan.

[James Acaster]

Naked and Afraid. Just the one way to go out. Like the last hurrah. Return to innocence.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah. Good end to the commitment.

[Ed Gamble]

I don't know who, why anyone agrees to that show, to be fair.

[James Acaster]

No, I, it's fascinating, isn't it? Like, I, I don't know either, but, but there are people that do really well on it. Yeah. I mean, somebody's cut out for it.

[Ed Gamble]

But I just think no matter how well you do on it, you're still butt naked on TV the whole time and you've got to carry around the mic in a little bag and it looks really undignified. There's no winners.

[Sebastian Stan]

Have you seen Naked Attraction? Have you seen that?

[James Acaster]

Yeah, I have seen. We were just talking about it.

[Sebastian Stan]

Were you just, just talking about it?

[James Acaster]

Yeah, we were, yes. Because we're talking about wild shows here. And that one, that's hilarious, isn't it? It's like, it's, it's really like a car accident. You're just constantly enamored.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. Just the way the thing slides up and then from the feet to the middle is some of the worst moments on TV I've ever seen, I think.

[Sebastian Stan]

Imagine being behind that screen. Like, I wonder when it's got above your dick. Yeah. I'm just thinking, I actually hope that I get eliminated now because I'd like them not to see my face for this to go on tv, you know what I mean?

[James Acaster]

That's right.

[Sebastian Stan]

At that point I'll be like, actually, I'm happy going home with this.

[James Acaster]

But they've got to be. I mean, I wonder what the submission process for that is, you know?

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

What are the questions that they, that they ask or, you know?

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, I think they just send through a photo, a full length naked photo. But this producer looks at it on really slow Internet so it loads up from the bottom so they can imagine, they can imagine the reveal of what it'll be like.

[Sebastian Stan]

Sometimes I pretend to be on naked. I've got electronic blinds.

[James Acaster]

That's amazing flat that goes into a courtyard in a certain place.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

So who's, who's judging, who's judging you on the postie.

[Sebastian Stan]

Postman and various people. Well, one of the most common problems is the blokes who go on it. Very afraid of, you know, looking small on tv, Trying to make it look as impressive as possible before going On. But then there's a very fine line.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes.

[Sebastian Stan]

Where if they. If they just get all the way boner, they got to go home.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Stan]

It's like, you can't. We can't put that on tv.

[James Acaster]

Right, right, right.

[Sebastian Stan]

So they're like, I've got to make it as impressive as possible without getting too impressive.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

But that would be even so Sorry about this.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

It'd be so psychotic, wouldn't it? Like you're like your brain's just trying to figure out where to send blood to begin with. And it's like you're just like there now there's a million people that are on the other side just waiting. And it's.

[Ed Gamble]

Apparently the studio is freezing cold as well.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

So they're battling against the elements.

[Sebastian Stan]

That's not helping.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, that's not helping anybody.

[Sebastian Stan]

Pops or bread? Pops or bread? Sebastian. Stan. Pops or bread?

[James Acaster]

None.

[Sebastian Stan]

Ah, none. Great.

[James Acaster]

That would be the bread. Yeah, that would be the bread.

[Ed Gamble]

I'm glad you said. For a minute I thought you said none and I thought, oh, no, this is going to be a short.

[Sebastian Stan]

No.

[James Acaster]

I love. I. Bread and butter is the greatest food you can ever have.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah. Is delicious. Naan as well. We don't get naan. We've had naan a bit in the past, but not that often. It's great to have a shout out to naan. Yeah.

[James Acaster]

No, I mean, I. Especially here in England.

[Sebastian Stan]

Really good.

[Ed Gamble]

Is that. Is that something that you do when. Whenever you come over to England is go. Go for a curry?

[James Acaster]

No, that's not where my mind. My mind goes. No, I. But, but, but I do love. I have had Indian food here. It's great. But not naan is like one of those breads that I could eat all the time.

[Sebastian Stan]

Are there dips with naan breads? Not naan bread. I've called it naan bread. That's the ultimate white thing to do.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Stan]

I'm going to call myself out on that. I just said bread. Bread. Yeah. I'm an idiot. Keep that in the edit, Benito. I need to be on my toes. I don't want this sugar coated and put out so that I make out like I'm better than I am. The world needs to hear that. I just said bread. Bread.

[James Acaster]

Just the reactions alone.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Ben's used to this. He just sits there and takes it all.

[Sebastian Stan]

Oh, yeah. He's just sitting there. He doesn't care. He ain't listening to us. What do you make of him so far?

[James Acaster]

He. He seems like a thinker but because he has to, I think.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Like he doesn't have much choice. I wonder if he like, hears you guys in his sleep.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, yeah, that's a good point. Actually.

[Sebastian Stan]

I would worry about that for him because he is. Obviously he's in the room for this. He's then editing it. He does a very good job of the edits as well, to be fair to him. So he must listen to it more than he needs to to make it good. Yeah. And then he's got to put it out and then he's on a WhatsApp group of us to sort out when we're coming in for it and we.

[Ed Gamble]

Consistently get the dates wrong and.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Mess up. So.

[James Acaster]

Oh, when you're coming in.

[Sebastian Stan]

Oh, yeah. We're not good people to work with, are you?

[James Acaster]

Do you. Are you, like, you turn up here on a Sunday and go, oh, this is the wrong day.

[Ed Gamble]

We'll just pop in at 4am and.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah, we'll be ready to go.

[James Acaster]

So that might be a very interesting shot.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Before I'm talking about food at 4am yeah. And obviously it's, you know, booking guests is difficult because you've got to balance people's schedules and all of this sort of stuff. And then also he's got to deal with our schedules as well. So.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah, yeah, the guy. Which is busier than you might imagine. Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

I'm sure given the conversation so far, you probably think this is all we do.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

But we've got. We've got other stuff.

[Sebastian Stan]

Well, that's the most insecure thing we've ever said to a guest.

[James Acaster]

No, that.

[Sebastian Stan]

That is.

[James Acaster]

I thought I saw a ring on that. On that ring finger. So.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah. Yeah, there you go. Yeah. So that's what you've got on.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, I'm married.

[Sebastian Stan]

You're marriage.

[James Acaster]

There's. There's life in that.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah. Ye. Let's get into your dream menu. Proper, your dream starter.

[James Acaster]

I like yellow tail sashimi. I also really like a good strong butter lettuce salad.

[Ed Gamble]

You really put some. Put some sauce behind saying that there.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah. Butter lettuce.

[James Acaster]

Well, it's funny, the butter lettuce because, like, it's like a very simple one, but I still. I think it's effective, you know, like some olive oil, I think, and salt.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah. I'm actually not familiar with butter lettuce.

[Ed Gamble]

I think you are.

[Sebastian Stan]

I think I am.

[Ed Gamble]

Will have had butter lettuce, but you might not be familiar with it.

[Sebastian Stan]

No, I'm not familiar with the term.

[James Acaster]

There's this Italian Restaurant in New York called Via Coroda and they do these little toasted bread like with butter and like anchovies and salt on it as a starter. And that is like, yeah, the best you do.

[Sebastian Stan]

I can see the dreaminess in your. You're going off somewhere else in your eyes there and your mind. You clearly love these.

[James Acaster]

I felt it when I said that.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah, felt right.

[James Acaster]

I felt the butter melting.

[Sebastian Stan]

Do you take other people to that restaurant, introduce them to that starter?

[James Acaster]

Many people.

[Sebastian Stan]

What's it like when they're about to take a bite? Are you watching them and being like, I hope they like that.

[James Acaster]

Not everybody has the same reaction as I do, but I mean that one's pretty well known in New York. Like I feel like Via Corona people know it. It's definitely a good splurge. I feel like food wise, it's always.

[Ed Gamble]

So intense, isn't it, when you take people to a restaurant that you really like and make them get the thing that you really like and then it's just so nerve wracking watching them eat it, waiting for the reaction.

[James Acaster]

Well, is that something you guys do all the time?

[Ed Gamble]

All the time, yeah.

[Sebastian Stan]

Every day in my life because of.

[Ed Gamble]

This podcast we get. We get asked a lot for our food recommendations or restaurant.

[James Acaster]

That's incredible though. That's great, isn't it? Because then you go like, I was just telling Adam Pearson, who's in the movie, I was like, we need to do the trip. Basically, yes, you and I. Those movies, I mean, it seemed like a dream come true.

[Sebastian Stan]

Those guys have both been on this podcast and obviously we asked them about that and really it does sound, it does sound great.

[James Acaster]

They're incredible. And they clearly were eating in that movie for real. Like these were really good restaurants and they were having wine and I mean it just seems like a dream.

[Sebastian Stan]

You and Adam should do it. Yeah, it would be great.

[James Acaster]

Dean Street Townhouse, by the way.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Here has that loaf of bread that's pretty great as a starter.

[Sebastian Stan]

Oh. I mean you can make your whole menu bread so far.

[Ed Gamble]

I mean the things that are mainly bread based.

[Sebastian Stan]

What's this loaf of bread that Dean Street Townhouse do?

[James Acaster]

I don't know what it is, but they, again, they just, the way that it comes out, it's like warm and steamy and stuff. It's. It's great.

[Sebastian Stan]

I hate to come back to a film we've already mentioned, but you were saying about when you really like a dish and then you're watching someone eat it and you're invested in it. How do you think that fresh guy, that cannibal, he makes someone a special dish, and he thinks this is his favorite food. He loves it. It's made out of a person, obviously, because he's a cannibal, loves eating people.

[James Acaster]

Right.

[Sebastian Stan]

And he's serving it to a friend, and they're about to eat it. How do you think he feels watching them? Yeah, he's got that thing of like, I hope they like it, but also, surely in his head somewhere, he's got to be like. I mean, to be fair, though, it is a person.

[Ed Gamble]

It's an acquired taste.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah, it's an acquired taste as a human being.

[James Acaster]

Well, that particular character, at least in the movie that I, you know, that I played for him, it's like he's. He's. He's just found out the greatest secret in the world that no one knows, and he's just told it to you, you know, so he. So he's like, right. I mean, the expectation is that big.

[Sebastian Stan]

You know, so he wouldn't even be thinking.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, no, no, there would be no concern about it.

[Sebastian Stan]

So we're going for the anchovies on the toast for your start.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Stan]

Delicious. Great.

[Ed Gamble]

Absolutely love anchovies. I'm on a big anchovy phase at the moment. Anywhere, anywhere it's available, I get anchovies.

[Sebastian Stan]

I always think of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. That's what I think of anchovies. That was the first time I ever heard of anchovies on the pizza. Yeah. Was a little kid, and they would hate anchovies on the pizza. Michelangelo especially was a steak I can't have. Doesn't want it on the pizza.

[James Acaster]

Like pineapple. No way.

[Sebastian Stan]

You don't like pineapple on the pizza?

[James Acaster]

No, I can't do. I can't mix sweet and salt. Like, I can't really do. I have to really space it out. It's bizarre.

[Sebastian Stan]

I've just come back from a holiday. I went to Japan for a holiday, and we went up into the mountains to see flying squirrels. Very exciting day. And an Australian man came out to be our tour guide, but he'd lived in Japan for quite a while, and he was telling everyone, this is what we're going to do when we go up there and behave like this and don't do this and da, da, da. But he wanted to put a bit of fun into it and not just all rules. So he went, I've actually got a flying squirrel with me in this. In this bag here. And obviously all the adults were like, yeah, bullshit. Just get on with it. But all the little kids were, like, excited about it. And then he got this bag, backpack, he put it on the front, and he was talking to this flying squirrel that was in the bag. It's clearly a cuddly toy, but it was a bit. That he does as part of it. He was like, oh, the squirrel would like to know what kind of toppings I like on my pizza. And then he told the squirrel in Japanese that he liked pineapple. And all the kids lost their minds and were like, what? Like, properly. We're not going into the mountains with this guy if he likes pineapple on his pizza. And he got really shy about it. The tour guide, after that, he felt a bit shy that he told us all that he likes pineapple on his pizza. But I was unclear as to why that was in the storyline for.

[James Acaster]

It's a specific thing. I'm just realizing when. When you retire that story, I'm listening to you, and the whole time I'm trying to guess the next time you're gonna scream, trying to catch it before it happens.

[Ed Gamble]

There's no more screaming.

[Sebastian Stan]

There's not often screaming after this. But I might still do it at some point for you, Sebastian, just to throw in some extra ones.

[James Acaster]

I know. I. It would be funny if you just walk down the street and one point and just. Just randomly did that.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah. Well, this is. This is the irony of it all, is that because I shout out out of nowhere on this podcast, I walk down the street, and then people who.

[James Acaster]

Have seen the podcast and now they're doing it.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Stan]

Millimeters from my face, and I do. I papa. I probably get scared.

[James Acaster]

It's funny, isn't it? Because it's the same with, like, acting sometimes. Like, people just. They'll see something and they'll latch onto it, and then they want desperately to share it with you, and you're like, thank you. But, you know, I just. I'm just trying to get on with this day.

[Ed Gamble]

This has been shared with me multiple times this morning.

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. Like, you know, people shout that at me. Popadoms or bread. And it's when I'm on stage doing standup. It's not even my catchphrase. So they're shouting his catchphrase at me.

[Sebastian Stan]

Pretty cool.

[Ed Gamble]

Not for me.

[Sebastian Stan]

Not for Ed. It's a waking nightmare. Careers in tatters.

[James Acaster]

You gotta have your own. You gotta. You gotta get your own.

[Ed Gamble]

I've gotta get my own catchphrase. Rather than welcome to the dream restaurant.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah. And I have a wife.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Stan]

That is my catchphrase.

[Ed Gamble]

I do have to say that a lot.

[James Acaster]

It would be hilarious if you said that just randomly. Things. I'm just gonna have a tea. I have a wife.

[Sebastian Stan]

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[James Acaster]

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[Sebastian Stan]

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[Ed Gamble]

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[Sebastian Stan]

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[Ed Gamble]

There to adapt with you whether you.

[Sebastian Stan]

Need a challenge or rest.

[Ed Gamble]

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[Sebastian Stan]

Visit onepeleton.com Ryan Reynolds here for I guess my hundredth Mint commercial. No, no, no, no, no, no, don't.

[James Acaster]

No, no, no.

[Sebastian Stan]

I mean honestly when I started this I thought I'd only have to do like four of these. I mean it's unlimited to Premium Wireless.

[James Acaster]

For $15 a month.

[Sebastian Stan]

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[Ed Gamble]

Taxes and fees.

[Sebastian Stan]

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[James Acaster]

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[Sebastian Stan]

Then he told everyone how much he loved calculating his return on ad spend. My friends still laugh at me to this day.

[James Acaster]

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[Sebastian Stan]

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[James Acaster]

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[Sebastian Stan]

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[James Acaster]

I mean, is there anything better than, like, spaghetti and meatballs? I don't know. Like, that one. It's easy any day of the week. But then a good skirt steak or a good burger.

[Sebastian Stan]

Well, we could do spaghetti and meatballs, and inside the pile is like a burger right in the middle. Like, a little surprise when you finish all the spaghetti meatballs as a perfect burger, Just.

[James Acaster]

Just for the road, if you want. No, I think I. I think the spaghetti, meatballs, really.

[Ed Gamble]

How much can you eat in a sitting? Are you, like. Can you go for it? Do you have to stop yourself eating too much?

[James Acaster]

No, but you know how it is. Like, it's like. I think with especially, like, you know, exercise and, like, diet, trying to kind of keep in shape and stuff. Like, I usually find that I have to have these cheat days, you know, and then the cheat days become these crazy days where. Where you could. But then, for instance, I, you know, maybe I won't have breakfast that day because I know that the lunch is going to be this glorious thing and you can properly enjoy it.

[Sebastian Stan]

You got the Rock with his cheat days.

[James Acaster]

Intense. What does he have, like, for, like, baked brownies or something? Or cookie? Like, a whole platter.

[Ed Gamble]

Trays. Trays of sushi as well, which to me, sushi is not a cheap food. Like, a tray of sushi to me is like, I'm being healthy today. I'm going to eat a tray of sushi. Yeah, but the Rock is having a tray of sushi being like, oh, I'm so. I'm so naughty. I'm the Rock.

[Sebastian Stan]

Naughty boy. Raw fish.

[Ed Gamble]

I'm going to drink a bottle of this tequila that I own.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[James Acaster]

I. I don't know how he does it. I mean, he's. He's pretty wild, but he's also so disciplined.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

It's really crazy, you know, but it works for some people.

[Sebastian Stan]

Do you want to know what this married guy does in a cheat day?

[James Acaster]

I'd love to.

[Ed Gamble]

I'm married. I have a wife.

[Sebastian Stan]

He loses the ring. That's your whole day. Yeah. You post it on Instagram, you go, it's a cheat day, everyone. The ring's coming off, and then there's various selfies of you and people that you're cheating with. It's awful.

[Ed Gamble]

My wife's fine with it because, you know, I put it. I put it in the calendar.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah. She accepts. It's a cheat day. And it goes both Ways.

[Ed Gamble]

She'll hate this bit.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[James Acaster]

I don't know.

[Ed Gamble]

It's all right. She doesn't listen to anything I do.

[Sebastian Stan]

Spaghetti and meatballs for me is always. It's like a cartoon food. Yes. Like, I saw it in cartoons before I had it. Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Like the dogs one, where they. Where they pick on the same one and then they.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah, lady the Tramp.

[Ed Gamble]

Lady the Dogs one.

[Sebastian Stan]

The dogs one.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Sebastian Stan]

But, yeah, stuff like that. Well, I was like, I want to eat that because it looks so delicious in the cartoons. And get your meatballs.

[James Acaster]

Maybe that's why, as kids, because, like, don't you remember, like, having to eat your vegetables and never wanting to. And everyone's just trying because we don't see them in cartoons. Maybe that's. Maybe that's the deal.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

There's no, like. Like a cartoon dog eating a big plate of vegetables being like, oh, that's delicious. That might have changed things if lady and the Tramp were having a go at a big plate of broccoli.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

It's just because broccoli is not a great tasting situation.

[Sebastian Stan]

Although, you know. Are you familiar with Wesley Two Scoops Berry?

[James Acaster]

No.

[Sebastian Stan]

So when I was a kid, and me. I was a kid, too. Gladiators. You must be familiar with the show Gladiators, the TV show Gladiators.

[James Acaster]

Fantastic show.

[Sebastian Stan]

Fantastic show. And we had it over here as well. And there was a series where it was like, the American Gladiators and the UK Gladiators meet In. And it was like this hyper. This big, like, we're gonna find who the ultimate champion is. And the American contestant was called Wesley Two Scoops Berry. And he was called Two Scoops because his mother would try and get him to eat his broccoli when he was a kid, and she'd say, just two more scoops, which for me was always confusing. Cause I was like, you don't scoop broccoli. But I still, like. I really liked Wesley Two Scoops, but he could jump over a car. Two cars, huh?

[Ed Gamble]

Two cars to end.

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

He had like a home VHS of him jumping over two cars. And his mother always gave him two scoops of vegetables.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah. And that made me want to eat vegetables as the first thing as a kid. That made me want to eat vegetables as Wesley Two Scoops Berry. Because he was so great.

[James Acaster]

That's why we need superheroes. Because it's. It's. Especially when you're a kid, it's. It's all you look at. Yeah. You know, like the comic books. And all that. I remember Gladiators when I was growing up. That's why also wrestling. I was a big.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Big wrestling fan for the same reason. You know, I just loved. I kept thinking that it would be so cool to walk into an arena with a song.

[Sebastian Stan]

Oh yeah, yeah.

[James Acaster]

You know.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah. That was one of my favorite parts of like I didn't really watch wrestling so I didn't have the TV channels it was on, but I knew what songs they walked on to because my friends had the music that they bought on cd. So I was listening to those all the time and playing them, imagining walking in.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, I mean I still, I. I still watch wrestling because I'm essentially a 14 year old boy and I still think about, wouldn't it be great to walk into a stadium to my own music?

[Sebastian Stan]

Even though he's a comedian and he can walk on stadium.

[Ed Gamble]

Even though I do a song. If you want to that. But then I just do comedy. I don't get to body slam anyone or anything.

[Sebastian Stan]

But you are a superhero as well. So you get to experience that. You've experienced a taste of that.

[James Acaster]

Oh yeah. With for sure. I mean, it's the most gratifying thing in the world. Like when you, you know, when, when you have like a kid that comes up to you and just like, is that our metal? You know, and you're like, yes, of course. But you know, it' Camouflage.

[Sebastian Stan]

Now that's good.

[James Acaster]

And they're like, oh, interesting.

[Sebastian Stan]

That's good because like recently as of. I don't know when this podcast actually gonna go out, but we lost Maggie Smith and someone told me a story about her when, you know, a kid who was a fan of Harry Potter went up to her and said, is it true that you can turn it to a cat? And she told the kid to pull themselves together.

[Ed Gamble]

I've got more respect for that, to be honest, because I.

[Sebastian Stan]

Pull yourself together.

[James Acaster]

That's so funny. I would have, I would have. I still think of her as Wendy.

[Sebastian Stan]

Oh yeah.

[James Acaster]

Remember that movie?

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah. Hook.

[James Acaster]

Yeah. That movie I was obsessed with when I was a kid.

[Sebastian Stan]

Hooks.

[James Acaster]

Because I really, I couldn't. You know, I'm like the whole concept of Peter Pan and this guy going back, it was just so great.

[Sebastian Stan]

Well, that's come up on this podcast a few times because of Bangarang. Yeah. When they're eating, especially when there's nothing. It looks delicious.

[James Acaster]

No, no, no. For sure. As a kid, all the colors and everything in there, you're like, what is that made of?

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Did you ever Want to eat? Play doh. When you were a kid?

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, big time.

[James Acaster]

Me too.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah. Would have loved to have eaten it looked delicious.

[James Acaster]

Yeah. When I still see it, I'm like.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, you could squeeze it because it smells. It smells kind of nice as well, right? It smells like, sort of clean. And you do want to see what it tastes like with his flavors.

[Sebastian Stan]

We did a live tour of this podcast around the uk, and we would ask the audiences their menus and read them out. They'd write them before we went on stage. We'd pick them out and read out the best ones. And one person for their dream drink said they would like the fruit shampoo they use, but it has to taste as good as it smells. And that got an applause from the entire room.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sebastian Stan]

The entire room was like, yeah, I'm gonna drink my shampoo.

[Ed Gamble]

If it didn't, that might say more about our listeners than the sort of UK populace as a whole. But, yeah, a lot of shampoo drinkers listen to us.

[Sebastian Stan]

I think it would pair nicely with some Play doh.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

The only thing I can think about with shampoo is that prank I've seen on YouTube at one point where there's. Where they go around, there's a guy kind of washing his hair. He doesn't know that there's someone above him that keeps squeezing shampoo. He keeps trying to get the shampoo out. It's like a nightmare. You can't get it out of your. You know what I mean?

[Sebastian Stan]

It just keeps going. I'm gonna watch it as soon as this is finished.

[James Acaster]

You have to shampoo prank. I mean, it's just so. I feel like you guys would be great at pranks.

[Sebastian Stan]

Would we be good at pranks?

[Ed Gamble]

We love Jackass.

[Sebastian Stan]

We love Jackass. Steve O. Was sitting in that seat. We've washed it since. But Steve O. We had Steve O In it.

[James Acaster]

What a voice, right? Such a specific character.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sebastian Stan]

Every time I'm watching anything with a min. Or whatever, my. My. Fucking hell. What a Freudian slip. I was gonna say my girlfriend and I, but I went to say my sister. What do you think about that?

[Ed Gamble]

Don't ask James about his cheat days.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sebastian Stan]

Anyway, my girlfriend always. If I'm watching the Steve O. Thing, says for the other room, is that Whoopi Goldberg?

[Ed Gamble]

When. When Steve O. Was on the podcast, we had loads of people saying he sounds exactly like Whoopi Goldberg.

[James Acaster]

I never, never made that connection in my head until now, but maybe that's what I'll be doing after this. Going to see how that works.

[Ed Gamble]

Get someone to send you and not label them properly. Clips of Whoopi and clips of Stevo and you can see if you can work out the difference.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah. I mean, probably from what they're saying, you better work out your dream side dish.

[James Acaster]

Sebastian Fries definitely always wins. Like, really crispy fries. Mashed potatoes.

[Sebastian Stan]

Oh, you could go for all the potatoes.

[Ed Gamble]

We could get. We could get you a potato platter with all the different potatoes.

[James Acaster]

I know. Are people, like, really, really specific. Intricate with these? Because I still feel like there's a few that you don't. That question. Right. That everyone's like, if you. If you had your last meal, what would it be like? It's always just the most generic of stuff. I mean, at least for me. But.

[Ed Gamble]

Well, yes, sometimes. Yeah. It depends. We've had guests on here like, I want this thing from this restaurant in this year and all.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Like people who have really liked. It's just one specific thing they want. And then obviously I think the answer is fries a lot of the time. Because they're just everyone's favorite.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Stan]

And it's not about. Yeah. It's got to be what you genuinely want to eat as well. Yeah. Anyway, anyone who comes on here and tries just to say stuff to be smart and try and go. I'm going to say what other people haven't said. We can see through that.

[James Acaster]

Exactly. I mean, like, you know, gotta be.

[Sebastian Stan]

Honest, like that guy was to that.

[James Acaster]

Just flying squirrel, simply going, pumpkin seeds.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[James Acaster]

What?

[Sebastian Stan]

They are nice, though. If you toast them up, they are.

[Ed Gamble]

Actually your pumpkin seeds.

[James Acaster]

No, I do like pumpkin seeds. I never thought I would. But also if you put them in a butter lettuce salad with avocado.

[Sebastian Stan]

Well, you could have the butter lettuce salad also as the. As your side dish. You can have some fries and some salad. I think we'd allow that. Yeah. More than one thing, you know, with pumpkin.

[Ed Gamble]

With pumpkin seeds. So you brought up the pumpkin seeds as a joke, but now you're having pumpkin seeds.

[James Acaster]

You know what else is really good?

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Toasted pecans.

[Ed Gamble]

I'd say they're my favorite nut. When they're. When they're toasted. Toasted or roasted with salt, they're just. They turn into almost like a sweet. They're like. They're so delicious. They're like almost dairy, like.

[Sebastian Stan]

I agree. Actually, they are the sweetest of the nuts.

[Ed Gamble]

Raw pecans. I'm not interested. Shout out to the macadamia as well. If we're talking about the most delicious nuts. Roasted salted macadamias. Just cover me in them.

[Sebastian Stan]

Every time people say macadamia nut, I just think of that film. Best in show you that great movie.

[James Acaster]

I haven't seen in a while.

[Sebastian Stan]

Christopher Guest is talking about his dog. It's called Harlan Pepper, the character. He says he used to be able to name every single type of nut that there was, and he's just going like, cashew nut. There goes macadamia nut. He says that's the one that would send my mother through the roof. Like, I always figure if someone says macadamia nuts, I just think about Christopher Guesta with that character.

[James Acaster]

He was so funny. He was so good. And also the one waiting for Guffman. Yeah.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah. They're making a spinal tap, too. You excited about that?

[James Acaster]

I. Here's a very embarrassing thing. I actually never seen the first one.

[Sebastian Stan]

Wow.

[James Acaster]

The one I have not seen that they're in.

[Ed Gamble]

I. I mean, that's the one that everyone's seen who hasn't seen any of the others.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah. You've seen Waiting for Guffman and not Spinal Tap. You might be the only person who's.

[James Acaster]

Rob Reiner. Right. Who did that, I think, thing, which is. Which is also crazy because he's done such eclectic, different movies, but.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah, well, that was during. I mean, that. That run of films that he did around then is bananas.

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Stan]

His Spinal Tap, in this order. When Harry Met Sally, A Few Good.

[James Acaster]

Men, and then Misery.

[Sebastian Stan]

Misery and Princess Bride. Yeah. I think it's like five films in a row, all different.

[Ed Gamble]

All completely different genres.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah. Is there a director you'd really love to work with who's, like, done a bunch?

[James Acaster]

I mean. I mean. Hmm. That's really. It's kind of a harder question than I thought. I would always have said, you know, like Martin Scorsese. I mean, that. It just feels crazy to me of, like a world without him. I can't even picture it. I feel the same way about Jack Nicholson. Like, I'm like, I'm. Because these guys are so much older now, so I. It's really strange to watch them get older because then I feel like, do you feel that way now? Like people we grew up with, when you see them older, like, you feel your own age as well. It's like.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah, I'm going through a phase of trying to watch all this Scorsese movies. I've not seen King of Comedy.

[Ed Gamble]

That's one of my favorite films ever. That's just incredible, that film.

[Sebastian Stan]

It's so Genuinely funny as well. It's one of the few people talk about, like, when someone's doing stand up comedy in a film, it rarely works. It's rarely. His end monologue at the end of that that he does on late night is genuinely good. And I think the whole movie would fall apart if it wasn't. It's really hard to get that right in a film, I think.

[James Acaster]

Speaking of food and Martin Scorsese movies, I actually feel like if you watch Martin Scorsese movies and anytime they have those big Italian dinners, you're always somehow hungry. Like, watching that, you're like, oh, I want to have what they're having.

[Ed Gamble]

I feel like any sort of mafia film or TV show. I'm rewatching the Sopranos at the moment. I'm putting on weight at the same time because I'm ordering cold cuts. Gabagool. I'm ordering so much gabagool and I'm just eating it at the fridge. Like Tony. I'm breathing heavily through my nose. I'm constantly in my dressing gown. But when you see it on screen, you've got to have it. I'm ordering big subs.

[James Acaster]

I'm just picturing one day your wife waking up and you're just in the kitchen in like a tank top, in like a kimono in shorts, just like eating a sandwich and she's like, what are you doing? Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

She wouldn't be confused by that. She knows I'm rewatching the Sopranos. She knows that's what's happening.

[Sebastian Stan]

I just looked at her. The geese flew away. Yeah.

[James Acaster]

You're having a midlife crisis.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Walking down to collect the paper at the end of the path. You know, I mean, I like that.

[James Acaster]

Someone comes up to you and it goes, excuse me, sir, do you know the time?

[Ed Gamble]

No.

[James Acaster]

No. Your dream drink, I think it's. It's somewhere between a really chilled gin martini with a twist or a Negroni Empress gin. That's really good. Empress gin also. Empress gin with tonic is really good. I know that's like gin and tonic is whatever. Right.

[Sebastian Stan]

But.

[James Acaster]

But that gin with the tonic is a really good drink made.

[Sebastian Stan]

Well, it's a completely new drink.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Stan]

Tonic. When someone makes you a proper good one.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sebastian Stan]

You are. Oh, okay. This is totally different to what I've been drinking. Yeah. And it is just like spending a bit more time, one gin having, like.

[Ed Gamble]

The gin having a bit more flavor to it rather than just like bog standard gin.

[James Acaster]

Yeah. And this one sort of turns purple when you pour it in. There, it's. It's very. That also gives it a little effect, but for some reason it just. Just complements it.

[Ed Gamble]

Well, that's crazy. It turns purple.

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

How does that happen?

[James Acaster]

I don't know.

[Ed Gamble]

I'm across the side, so I'm sure it's good.

[Sebastian Stan]

Someone did that and you didn't know it was going to happen. And you saw it turn purple. Did it remind you of Thanos and you got angry and.

[James Acaster]

Oh, I thought you were going to say New Year's Eve.

[Sebastian Stan]

No, no, no.

[James Acaster]

Thanos.

[Sebastian Stan]

You got.

[James Acaster]

I don't. He. Yeah, I didn't. I don't think about it as much as you think.

[Ed Gamble]

I. I would have happened to me.

[Sebastian Stan]

I would have happened to me. I'd think about Thanos all the time. You got snapped. You. You got dusted.

[James Acaster]

I know.

[Sebastian Stan]

Furious at that guy.

[James Acaster]

I know. Well, it was amazing how well that villain was.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

In a way, he actually was. You know, he was having kind of his own midlife crisis. Turn on the world.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. There were levels. There were levels to that.

[Sebastian Stan]

What do you think that was like for your character? Obviously a lot of characters happen to. But you're there. You've been in Wakanda fighting, but then you feel a bit. I feel a bit shitty. And then suddenly you're on this massive bat. You're a completely different place. Did you think at some point you had to, like, get yourself. Bucky had to get himself together. Okay, fuck it. It's a different battle now and a load of shit's happening. I'll get caught up on it later. Or was Bucky like, guys, please catch me up on what's been happening, because, like, I can't just go into this fight not knowing. I've got to know what's going on.

[James Acaster]

I think. I think the minute he's so used to fighting an enemies that the minute he sees it, it's like right back in it.

[Sebastian Stan]

Sure, it's.

[James Acaster]

But the version you described would have been, I think, more cinematic. Wait, time out. What the fuck is happening around here? I just. I wanted to go to the bathroom and I came back and like, everything's a different world.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah. Cause they even knew this was like a different Thanos from a different time. And that Thor's already cut the other guy's head off. Yeah, but actually this is someone else from a different time. But we still need to. We kind of messed up with the time travel thing and just. Or whether it's like, we'll catch you up later. But the baddies are the Same ones as before.

[Ed Gamble]

I feel like you've thought about this more than anyone else on the planet.

[Sebastian Stan]

No way, man.

[James Acaster]

It's interesting, though. That movie does spiral down a rabbit hole. You find yourself kind of going in, asking different things. Because once the time thing gets flipped, anything is possible. You know, it's like we can all keep doing what we're doing, but then Dr. Strange can turn back time. Like, I mean.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah. What?

[James Acaster]

You can't with that. I mean, that's.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah, that's why it's very important that he doesn't have that stone anymore. If he did every movie, he'd just be like, yeah, there you go. One twist. Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

I would like to see, like, a caper film with him where he's just fucking around with time for a laugh.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[James Acaster]

Keeps going back in time to the same spot.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Over and over again.

[Sebastian Stan]

Did you ever. We had a cartoon here when we were kids called Bernard's Watch. Are you familiar with Bernard's Watch?

[James Acaster]

No.

[Ed Gamble]

It was good.

[James Acaster]

Bernard's really good.

[Sebastian Stan]

Bernard's watch was good, but, like, everyone had the kind of same problem with it, but, like, it was a little kid and he had a watch that could stop time, but he could just walk around then do whatever, so everything would freeze.

[James Acaster]

The only British thing that I remember when I was very, very little is a very controversial show called Benny Hill.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, he should never be in possession of Bernard's watch. No. Because if it was Benny's watch, it would be a very different show.

[Ed Gamble]

He causes enough trouble when. When time's moving normally. Right. Chasing those poor ladies around.

[Sebastian Stan]

Chasing the poor ladies around the trees and stuff.

[Ed Gamble]

It does blow my mind that Benny Hill was such a big export across the Atlantic. That that was the thing.

[James Acaster]

It's weird. Yeah. I remember just growing up and that, seeing that show when I was little. And then Beverly Hills 90210.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Strangely. And Baywatch.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[James Acaster]

You know, like they were massive in Europe.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. The two representations of different cultures. Benny Hill and Baywatch.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sebastian Stan]

I could have done a crossover episode where Benny's chasing the ladies, but it's all in slow motion.

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Or the beginning of the Baywatch that. The Baywatch titles at the beginning, but with the Benny Hill music in the background and stuff.

[Sebastian Stan]

Oh, yeah, that'd be good.

[James Acaster]

Yeah. Cadbury Chocolate, Cabbie Chocolate, yeah.

[Sebastian Stan]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[James Acaster]

It's such a thing, isn't it?

[Sebastian Stan]

It's good stuff.

[Ed Gamble]

Well, American chocolate is shit.

[James Acaster]

You know what? The only come out.

[Sebastian Stan]

Maybe you wrap up to that Slowly before.

[Ed Gamble]

Okay. Well, Hershey's is the worst thing I've ever tasted.

[James Acaster]

No, no, no. You can't compare those. But. But Tony's chocolate.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[James Acaster]

Is. Is this new? It's fairly new, right?

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah. From Holland. Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Unbelievable.

[Ed Gamble]

Also, they. Because all of the. They're not like solid standard chunks in the bar. You end up breaking off a bit to be like, I'll just have a bit. But it comes off at a weird.

[James Acaster]

Angle and you break and there's half gone. You did it. Do you remember kinder eggs?

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Great.

[James Acaster]

Those are great. I remember when you crack that thing open, the little astronaut would come out.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Or it'd be like a stupid one. You'd be like, no, I gotta get another one.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah, yeah. There was a period of time where it was always a little, like, China terrapin, like playing the pan pipes or like, with a surfboard. There's these other different terrapins. Yeah. That was when I got into kinder eggs.

[Ed Gamble]

That was your favorite era of Kinder.

[Sebastian Stan]

I wanted to get all the terrapins that you got in the kinder eggs. I got a few of them.

[James Acaster]

It was a great, brilliant idea. Whoever invented the Kinder Eggs.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

The toys came in phases like Marvel, didn't they?

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like. I mean. Yeah. Now, if they were still. I mean, I think they still do kinder surprises, but they're not as popular that Marvel would consider doing a crossover with them.

[James Acaster]

Right. Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

That would be like the pinnacle of your career.

[Sebastian Stan]

Right. If someone said, we're gonna do you in a Kinder Egg from any film you've been in.

[James Acaster]

Yeah. That would be like, I made it.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah. I guess it would depend on.

[Ed Gamble]

It would probably be Marvel. I don't think it'd be the cannibal.

[Sebastian Stan]

In the Kinder Egg or you as Tommy Lee.

[James Acaster]

It just ends up being a mistake. I mean, by. Someone just does one. Yeah. Randomly.

[Ed Gamble]

So I'd buy the Tommy Lee kinder egg.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

100%.

[Sebastian Stan]

Sebastian. Is Tommy Lee in the Kinder Egg? Yeah.

[James Acaster]

I mean, what would that even look like?

[Sebastian Stan]

It depends.

[Ed Gamble]

What.

[Sebastian Stan]

It'd just be part of the story.

[James Acaster]

One drumstick.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

I'd recognize him on Naked Attraction straight away. Tommy Lee.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah, yeah. Tommy Lee on Naked Attraction. Surely it would come up for everyone else, it's just the feet, but Tommy.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, yeah. Right.

[Sebastian Stan]

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[Ed Gamble]

You're halfway through a DIY car fix, tools scattered everywhere, and boom.

[Sebastian Stan]

You realize you're missing a part.

[Ed Gamble]

It's okay because, you know, whatever it.

[Sebastian Stan]

Is, it's on ebay. They've got everything. Brakes, headlights, cold air intakes, whatever you need. And it's guaranteed to fit.

[Ed Gamble]

Which means no more crossing your fingers.

[Sebastian Stan]

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[Ed Gamble]

Your eyes really lit up when you're talking about chocolate.

[James Acaster]

In the US there's something called Jenny's ice cream. I don't know why. It's phenomenal. It's the best ice cream I've had. Do you guys have good ice cream here?

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah. Well, yes, we do, but I wouldn't say it's like UK brand. So I mean, if I go out, I'm just gonna get Ben and Jerry's. So we got a lot of the same brands that you would have and then there's a lot of good ice cream places.

[Ed Gamble]

But when we go to the States, that's when we're excited to have ice cream. Yeah, well, you'll text me pictures of ice cream from America.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah. And especially like they've got, you know, you've got so many flavors of Ben and Jerry's that we don't have. So that's my first port of call once when like you, when, you know, before we started recording today, you were saying like, come in and work in here and when you arrive, you're a bit jet lagged. I arrived in Canada once. I had a gig that night. I was meant to do a show that night, but I missed the show because I'd gone out, got a tub of Ben and Jerry's that you can't get here, and halfway through just passed.

[James Acaster]

Out because of the sugar high.

[Sebastian Stan]

I was Just, I was jet lagged. But also, this is so into eating this Ben and Jerry's. It put me into this like hibernation state and I just. I just. That was it. And I woke up, the gig had already been and gone. Yeah. I had multiple texts on my phone for the promoters and everyone, and just a bed and Jerry's tub in my hand and a spoon in the other just on my bed.

[James Acaster]

That's one of the most terrifying things is like when you wake up and like you see your phone's just been going or something and people have been trying to get, you know, reach you for whatever reason. I. Yeah, but I. Speaking of pranks, it's so silly. There's another one I saw recently on YouTube and it's like, it's really bad. Like, these guys clearly have known each other for a long time. I don't even know what it's called. But like, they, they like got together and like they had like a celebration night, you know, taking shots and hanging out and all this. Stu. The next day the guy, one of them wakes up and he's strapped to a hospital bed and he doesn't know where, how he got there. And they're like, you've been in a coma for 10 years. And his friend comes in in prosthetics, having gained weight, and he's like, you have a son. And I've been taking care of him and he's just. It's terrifying, honestly, but it's horrifically funny. And, you know, it's like he just doesn't know what to do with it.

[Ed Gamble]

Like.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, yeah, but I didn't know you.

[Ed Gamble]

Like pranks so much.

[Sebastian Stan]

They are practically, I think.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, I mean, I mean, you have to, you know, you want to be safe. I'm not. Like, I. But like, it is funny sometimes you gotta keep surprising yourself and your friends, you know. Yeah, it's fun to do that.

[Sebastian Stan]

Have you ever played a prank on anyone that's like, that you're particularly proud of?

[James Acaster]

It's so stupid. But I have a friend who, like, he always manages. He can fall asleep any time. He. I saw him fall asleep in the middle of a nightclub. Like, he took a nap and like came back and was like, right back, as if he got reinvigorated. And I'd be so jealous of him because I'd be like, how do you do it? How do you just fall asleep? Falls asleep very easily all the time. So one time he was staying over, he lives in la, came to New York and he was crashing over My house. And he fell asleep. And I took headphones and I put it over his head, over his ears, and I plugged it into, like, the fucking speakers. And I went and researched T. Rex, like, you know the dinosaur in Jurassic park when, like, at the very end where he's like, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. He's like, and the thing falls or whatever, And I cranked that up and I just. Just press play, just trying to wake him up. And all I got was just this one quick, like, little K2.

[Sebastian Stan]

It's almost more satisfying than him completely being terrified. Just very lazily just going, yeah, hey, man.

[James Acaster]

I'm like, well, ever a fire or anything. Yeah, you're in the house. We'll never make it.

[Sebastian Stan]

That's what he'd be like after the blip, though, if he got snapped by Thanos. Yeah, he'd just be like, right back in. Hey. Okay, cool. Okay. Okay. It was a different battlefield, but I pretty much. Pretty much got my bearings.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, I've just been napping again.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah, I know.

[James Acaster]

This is, like, in a totally different city. Doesn't recognize it.

[Sebastian Stan]

So is Jenny's ice cream your dream dessert?

[James Acaster]

Or I'll put that one out there because maybe if someone does go to America, they'll remember that one and they'll try it.

[Ed Gamble]

What's the best.

[James Acaster]

Worth it.

[Ed Gamble]

What's the best flavor of Jennings?

[James Acaster]

Oh, man. There's like a peanut butter chocolate one. There is kind of like a chocolate chip. A rocky road situation. There's like a one with like, a brownie swirl.

[Sebastian Stan]

Great.

[Ed Gamble]

I love all that. Some people are like, oh, I only, like. I want just, like one flavor of ice cream. Just like plain, like vanilla. I want. Just throw everything in there. I want chunks.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, I don't. I don't know about the vanilla. One time only.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Just these people are being contrary.

[Sebastian Stan]

I don't get it.

[Ed Gamble]

Just for the sake of it.

[James Acaster]

Right.

[Ed Gamble]

Pretending they got sophisticated palates, but they're boring as hell.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah. I try not to, like, you know, rise to it, but whenever someone is just like, I'm just going to get a scoop of vanilla, I was like, are you? You know, seems like such a waste of.

[James Acaster]

It's a waste of opportunity. That's how it feels.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Because it's like, if you're gonna do it, you might as well go for it.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

You're not even getting your bang for your buck.

[Sebastian Stan]

Right.

[James Acaster]

Like, it's like, it's. I wanted to make some analogy that I'm too tired, but. Yeah, I think we know. You Know what we're saying?

[Sebastian Stan]

I feel like we should, like, plan a prank to do on a. On one of your. Like, maybe we could get Anthony Mackian. We could assist you in pranking him.

[James Acaster]

No, absolutely.

[Ed Gamble]

Well, if we do have him on this podcast, because he said he'd be really good if we do manage to book him for this podcast, we're happy to prank him on your behalf.

[Sebastian Stan]

If you do.

[James Acaster]

Yes. I mean, then maybe you need to email me and I'll have to figure out how to. How to do it, but we could.

[Sebastian Stan]

Just keep pouring shampoo on him. Does that work? If it's not in the shower, Eddie can see us. Does that work?

[James Acaster]

No, maybe not. We gotta think. We gotta think somehow. But it's possible. I mean, he would. He'll get me back or he'll try to get me back.

[Ed Gamble]

But maybe if he gets angry at the prank, you have to admit that you were involved in it. Because if we go, oh, no, it was Sebastian, and then you deny all knowledge of it.

[James Acaster]

It would be like, imagine. To do this podcast, he has to drive, like. Like 45 minutes to a warehouse somewhere in, like, South London. And it's just in the dark, and you guys are sitting there by candlelight.

[Sebastian Stan]

But it should be. If it's in a warehouse, you should open the door and it should be full of people. And then he realizes it's the rap battle from 8 mile. You've got to do it again.

[James Acaster]

And he's got to go up.

[Sebastian Stan]

He's got to go up there. We could get Eminem. Then you could join in as well. Your surname Stan. Yeah, you can get up. You've written Eminem. Loads of letters, actually. That's when you and Mackie would join forces, surely, because you both hate Eminem. You're Stan and the guy that he beat in the rap battle, by the way.

[James Acaster]

What a. Do you remember that movie? How good. That was incredible. And also, I thank you for reminding me. He is in that film. He's great in it.

[Sebastian Stan]

He's great in it.

[James Acaster]

He's in so many good movies, actually. But, like, that doesn't matter.

[Ed Gamble]

We're gonna prank the out.

[Sebastian Stan]

Prank him so hard.

[James Acaster]

But that would be. It would be funny. Like, he's just. He thinks he's going to a podcast, but it's a rave.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[James Acaster]

Waiting for him.

[Sebastian Stan]

And he's got. I mean, hopefully, because, like, today and. And, you know, this is a trick of the trade that I didn't know happened, but, like, someone arrived before you who's called a Go ahead. Right. Who kind of turns up here first? Oh, interesting. Which is. This happens sometimes if people are like, you know, have busy schedules and they're going from one place to the other. So with Mackie, I would worry that a go ahead had arrived there and text them and go, this is a fucking raid. This is not a podcast. They're setting you up for a prank. I think Sebastian stands behind it. You do not come here, Anthony.

[James Acaster]

It just goes to. It's like I'm just recreating that movie. The game on him. He's involved in High Speed chase all the way to Mexico. Just goes on and off. I always thought it'd be funny to do a movie about actors that. That take the roles to, like.

[Sebastian Stan]

Oh, yeah, the next level. Yeah. You know, but anyway, you go really extreme. I. I still think there's, like, maybe you and him should join forces and prank Eminem. I think that is a. You know, as much as I'd like.

[James Acaster]

To, why do I feel like that would fail?

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, I don't think that would go well.

[Sebastian Stan]

Get him.

[Ed Gamble]

You never know. You never know what mood Eminem's going.

[Sebastian Stan]

To be in, but, you know, you can get him. The two of you join forces.

[James Acaster]

I could also see him just unfazed.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah, yeah.

[James Acaster]

Like the same stoic face, no emotion, and just walk out.

[Ed Gamble]

I've never seen him giggling in an interview. I don't feel like he would chuckle at a prank.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, me neither, to be fair.

[Sebastian Stan]

I'll read your menu back to you now, see how you feel about it. You would like sparkling water. You would like naan for popping on your bread. You would like anchovies on toast from Via Corota in New York. Main course, you want spaghetti and meatballs. A side dish of fries and butter lettuce salad. Drink an Empress gin.

[Ed Gamble]

Sunflower seeds and.

[Sebastian Stan]

Sorry.

[Ed Gamble]

Sunflower seeds.

[Sebastian Stan]

Pumpkin seeds.

[Ed Gamble]

Pumpkin seeds. Sorry.

[Sebastian Stan]

Drink Empress gin martini with a twist. And dessert, you would like Jenny's ice cream. A bunch of different scoops. We kind of like. We shouted out a few. The brownie swirl, the peanut butter chocolate, them all in a bowl together.

[James Acaster]

I mean, one doesn't or shouldn't survive that meal, but.

[Sebastian Stan]

Sounds good, though, right? It sounds good hearing it back.

[James Acaster]

Yeah. I mean, honestly, if that was. That was the way to, you know, the way to go, that would be, I think, okay for me. Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Look, we're going to go and plan this prank, but thank you so much for coming to the dream restaurant.

[James Acaster]

You guys are amazing. Thank you for.

[Sebastian Stan]

Thank you, Sebastian.

[Ed Gamble]

Thank you so Much to Sebastian for coming on the off menu podcast. He loves pranks.

[Sebastian Stan]

He loves pranks. That's the main thing. I felt like, you know, no one else has found that out in an interview with Sebastian Stan so far. I'm starting to.

[Ed Gamble]

We should do another. Another podcast about pranks.

[Sebastian Stan]

Well, maybe a YouTube series where we prank people.

[Ed Gamble]

Because, look, he enjoyed food and he enjoyed talking about food. I really liked Sebastian. I thought it was a fun interview. But he really came alive when we started talking about pranks.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah, he liked pranks a lot and remembering pranks he had seen. And so like, I think that maybe that's one where we do like just people's favorite pranks.

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Stan]

So rather than pranking people, we talk about pranks that they love.

[Ed Gamble]

Or I'd go and watch a feature length film where it's just Sebastian Stan dramatically describing pranks he'd seen or recreating.

[Sebastian Stan]

Pranks that he's seen.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Stan]

Remember there's that film, is it called act of act of. Act of Violence? I think there's a film where they get these warlords to recreate horrific things that they did.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Stan]

And then by the end they're actually, you know, confronted with the reality of what they've done for the first time.

[Ed Gamble]

That's not going to happen with Stan.

[Sebastian Stan]

Maybe Sebastian Stan recreates pranks he's seen.

[Ed Gamble]

He's not going to be confronted by the horror of the pranks. He's gonna love the pranks even more. I can't stress enough. Cause you're listening to this.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

How excited he was to talk about the pranks.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

It was beautiful. We're gonna get Mackie on this pod.

[Sebastian Stan]

Mackie on the pod. Whether we'll prank him or not remains to be seen.

[Ed Gamble]

Or the secret ingredient.

[Sebastian Stan]

Mac and cheese.

[Ed Gamble]

Macy D's.

[Sebastian Stan]

Mackie D's. That's good. Although if he listens to this episode now, which he could because we just talk to his buddy. Yeah. He'll know the secret ingredient for when he's on.

[Ed Gamble]

He's not gonna listen to this.

[Sebastian Stan]

Anthony Mackie might listen to this. You'd be surprised.

[Ed Gamble]

We should also say that Sebastian is playing Donald Trump in the Apprentice, which, you know, it's just been the US Election, James, so it's crazy that we didn't mention that to him. But to be fair, we got waylaid with pranks.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah. It's not crazy because we actually did it ages ago and he was promoting a different film.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes.

[Sebastian Stan]

And now because of the scheduling, it's coming out now. And we look crazy.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Sebastian Stan]

But we're not the crazy ones.

[Ed Gamble]

No, we're not the crazy. Well, if anything, Donald Trump. Trump is the crazy one. And put that out, Benito. Don't edit that out. I know you like that.

[Sebastian Stan]

Don't edit it out. Don't edit it out, Benito. Keep it in there. Donald Trump, you're crazy. We're recording this now before the US elections because I'm going away, so we don't know who's won yet. But you're listening to it a day after, so you know who won. And so help me God, it better not be the crazy guy.

[Ed Gamble]

Benito, take off that maga hat.

[Sebastian Stan]

Benito, take off that maga hat right this instant. This is what you get when you make us record something about your beloved Trump. The Apprentice is in cinemas now.

[Ed Gamble]

The monkeys are in charge of the bus.

[Sebastian Stan]

The monkeys are in charge of bus. Sebastian did not say winter peas either.

[Ed Gamble]

No, he did not say winter peas.

[Sebastian Stan]

That's good.

[Ed Gamble]

We had some butter lettuce.

[Sebastian Stan]

Some butter lettuce, which I was unfamiliar with. Yeah, that was exciting. But that's as close as we got to winter peas. There weren't any winter peas there.

[Ed Gamble]

There was going to be some more butter lettuce chat, I think, but then Sebastian remembered a prank.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah, yeah. Then pranks come into things and we talked about pranks for a while.

[Ed Gamble]

So I wish you guys could see Benito when we worked with.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah, yeah, He.

[Ed Gamble]

He hates working with us.

[Sebastian Stan]

He hates it. Benito sits there behind his laptop, just staring ahead, looking like he's just praying for the sweet release of death.

[Ed Gamble]

You're a thinker.

[Sebastian Stan]

He's a thinker is what? First time someone's labeled him as a thinker. Yeah. And that was a very nice way of saying this guy is zoned out.

[Ed Gamble]

This guy looks sad.

[Sebastian Stan]

This guy looks sad and like he's not listening to what's going on in the room and he wants to be at home with his partner and his dog.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Stan]

Look, go and see a different man. It is in cinemas now. Get yourself along to watch it. Thank you so much, Sebastian, for coming to the Dream Restaurant. He'll be listening to this. Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Also, he was jet lagged and I feel like, you know when you do something when you're jet lagged.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

And it doesn't feel quite real. It's almost like a dreamlike thing.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

That chat would surely be something. In a few days he's going to be like, did I do that?

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah, to that. Did one of them at one point go off on a story that went nowhere about an Australian man in Japan talking to a fake flying squirrel in a backpack about what toppings he likes on his pizza.

[Ed Gamble]

I love that story. I don't think that's the last time we're going to hear that story.

[Sebastian Stan]

No, I think about it a lot. Me and my girlfriend talked about it afterwards, how when we're on those kind of things, guided tours or whatever, we both do this where instead of getting invested in the information we're being told and all the new things we're learning, we get invested in the tour guide and who they are as a person, and we start thinking about, like, their life is, like, what their life is like, how they got into all this, if they're enjoying this, what they think of the group.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Sebastian Stan]

All that sort of stuff. So when that guy did the. The little skit with the. Yeah. Flying squirrel in the backpack and was talking to it and saying he wants to know what toppings I have on my pizza and told it. I like pineapple. Oh, he doesn't. Like. He won't come out the bag because I have pineapple on my pizza. I was like, this is an interesting fella. Yeah. I want to know more about this guy.

[Ed Gamble]

I had a Uber driver yesterday who put on Waze, you know, that app that tells you where to go, but he had one of the novelty voices on it. It was playing really loudly. I don't know what it was.

[Sebastian Stan]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

But the voice is a lady's voice that started by saying, hello, Scorpio. We are about to. We are about to undertake a long and arduous journey. We will be changed by the end of this. And it'd be like, left. Take the next left. Riches. Lie down that patch.

[Sebastian Stan]

Death. Oh, wow.

[Ed Gamble]

But he's not reacting to it. He's just following the directions. And me and Charlie are sat in the back, just killing ourselves, laughing, texting each other, going, hello, Scorpio.

[Sebastian Stan]

He's used to it. Yeah. Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

But it's like. It was like a sexy voice as well. It was like. This has been very intimate. It's kept saying that.

[Sebastian Stan]

That's great. What did it say at the end? We reached his destination.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, I don't know. I think we got out by then. But they. He's getting off with it by the end.

[Sebastian Stan]

It.

[Ed Gamble]

He's also. He was a great guy as well, because we went under a tunnel and the bike went past. The Deliveroo bike went past and he lost it laughing.

[Sebastian Stan]

Really.

[Ed Gamble]

He was going, oh, the person is waiting for their food. And they're under, under the water. He's calling them up going, do you want some fish?

[Sebastian Stan]

We gotta get, we gotta get this guy on the podcast. We gotta get him on, do you want any fish? He kept saying, we talked to him about delivery. A I know you ordered a burger, but I got you some fish because I went under the water to get it.

[Ed Gamble]

He was laughing so much.

[Sebastian Stan]

I like it. That is funny to imagine that. That's what happens.

[Ed Gamble]

I'm still on tour doing Hot diggity dog. Come along and see it. Got a fair few dates left. Edgamble.co.uk for tickets. If you're London based or London bound on November 23, come and see me at the London Palladium.

[Sebastian Stan]

Absolutely. My name is James Acaster.

[Ed Gamble]

See you next week.

[Sebastian Stan]

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[Sebastian Stan]

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