Ep 275: Harris Dickinson

Summary

Podcast Summary: Off Menu with Ed Gamble and James Acaster

Episode: Ep 275: Harris Dickinson
Release Date: January 22, 2025
Guest: Harris Dickinson
Hosts: Ed Gamble and James Acaster

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1. Introduction and Apologies (00:00 - 08:00)

The episode begins with hosts Ed Gamble and James Acaster introducing their guest, Harris Dickinson, a talented actor known for his roles in films like Triangle of Sadness, Scrapper, and Iron Claw. Early in the conversation, Harris addresses a past interaction where Ed playfully "kicked him out" of the dream restaurant by choosing an unacceptable "secret ingredient" — Baby Belle from his then-unreleased film Baby Girl.

Notable Quote:

Harris Dickinson [05:34]: "I have some apologies to make... Years ago, I... I work at the Jammy Dodger factory."

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2. Harris Dickinson’s Acting Career and Baby Girl (08:00 - 12:00)

Harris delves into his acting career, expressing gratitude for being part of the podcast and discussing his upcoming projects. He provides insights into his latest film, Baby Girl, highlighting its exploration of sex and power dynamics without explicit content. Harris emphasizes the film's focus on emotional undercurrents and character interactions, steering away from gratuitous scenes.

Notable Quote:

Harris Dickinson [10:27]: "It's not an explicit film. It explores sex and power dynamics... the most erotic thing is probably the milk."

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3. Dream Menu Selection

Starter: Honey Roast Ham with Marmalade and Butter (34:50 - 35:28)

Harris chooses a hearty starter consisting of bread topped with honey roast ham, marmalade, and warm butter. The hosts reminisce about traditional Christmas meals and the comfort of hearty leftovers.

Notable Quote:

Harris Dickinson [35:01]: "It just brings back that fullness of Christmas."

Side Dish: Caesar Salad Without Anchovies (51:46 - 52:27)

Opting for a somewhat healthier option, Harris selects a Caesar salad, requesting no anchovies on top to suit his palate. The conversation humorously touches on personal preferences in salad preparations.

Notable Quote:

Harris Dickinson [52:27]: "I want the flavor there, but I don't want the anchovies on top to consume all at once."

Main Course: Short Rib Ragu with Pappardelle (43:45 - 44:52)

Harris discusses his love for slow-cooked short ribs paired with pappardelle pasta, highlighting the simplicity and richness of well-prepared dishes. He shares personal anecdotes about family meals and the transition to his stepmother's cooking.

Notable Quote:

Harris Dickinson [43:45]: "It's simple, but nice. Filling. But if you do it right, it tastes so good."

Dessert: Basque Cheesecake (67:35 - 69:25)

For dessert, Harris brings a Basque cheesecake from a Japanese patisserie, sharing his preference for classic cheesecakes over those with added ingredients like Oreos or Kit Kats. The cheesecake becomes a centerpiece of playful banter among the hosts.

Notable Quote:

Harris Dickinson [68:00]: "It's a Basque cheesecake from a Japanese patisserie. Delicious."

Drink: Breakfast Tea and Whiskey Sour (60:03 - 60:33)

Harris selects a traditional breakfast tea sweetened with sugar or honey, complemented by a whiskey sour. He narrates a memorable experience at a New York patisserie, balancing upscale expectations with casual preferences.

Notable Quote:

Harris Dickinson [60:03]: "A proper tea for any occasion. And then I'd do a whiskey sour."

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4. Anecdotes and Banter (12:05 - 67:35)

Throughout the episode, Ed, James, and Harris engage in light-hearted conversations, sharing personal stories about restaurant experiences, baking mishaps, and humorous encounters with food. They discuss topics like the challenges of maintaining accents, the dynamics of splitting bills, and memorable moments from films.

Notable Quotes:

James Acaster [25:54]: "Do you want to have a little cheer pudding? You can put it in your trailer."

Harris Dickinson [48:18]: "Trying to do one of my voices? Yeah, do an accent."

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5. Conclusion and Final Thoughts (67:35 - 84:28)

As the discussion winds down, the hosts reflect on their interactions, express appreciation for Harris's participation, and humorously recap the selected dream meal. They emphasize the camaraderie and the unique format of the podcast, teasing future episodes and maintaining a jovial tone until the end.

Notable Quote:

Ed Gamble [80:17]: "Thank you so much to Harris for coming on Off Menu."

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Key Takeaways:

• Authentic Connections: Harris appreciates the genuine and humorous interactions, highlighting the blend of food discussions with personal anecdotes.

• Food as Memory: The conversation underscores how food choices can evoke strong memories and emotions, particularly those tied to family and cultural traditions.

• Humor and Camaraderie: The episode balances insightful discussions about film and acting with playful humor, showcasing the hosts' chemistry and ability to engage both the guest and the audience.

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Closing Remarks:

Ed Gamble and James Acaster wrap up the episode by expressing their gratitude to Harris Dickinson, teasing future episodes, and maintaining the show's signature blend of humor and heartfelt conversation. The episode serves as a delightful exploration of Harris's culinary preferences intertwined with his experiences in the acting world.

Transcript

[Ed Gamble]

Hello, it's Ed Gamble here, co host of the Off Menu podcast that you're listening to right now. Just to let you know if you're a listener from Australia or New Zealand, I am coming probably near to you at some point in April or May. I'm going to be in Melbourne, Perth, Brisbane, Sydney, Christchurch, Auckland, Wellington. I will be touring doing my show Hot Diggity Dog near you in 2025. Come along and see me at gamble.co.uk for tickets. Hot Diggity Dog. Thank you, James.

[James Acaster]

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[Harris Dickinson]

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[James Acaster]

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[Harris Dickinson]

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[James Acaster]

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[Ed Gamble]

Welcome to the Off Menu podcast. Taking the risotto rice of conversation, shaping it into balls of friendship, coating in the breadcrumbs of humor and deep frying in the oil of the Internet. It's an arancini cast.

[James Acaster]

James thought he was gonna go risotto.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Cause risotto rice and then it turns out you were doing arancini rice.

[Ed Gamble]

I should have said just risotto really. And that would have given you more of a clue rather than risotto rice.

[James Acaster]

That was clever though.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. Thanks, man.

[James Acaster]

That's a gamble. He's very clever. My name is James Acaster. Together we own a dream restaurant. And every single week we invite in a guest and we ask them their favorite everstart and main course, dessert side dish and drink, not in that order. And this week our guest is Harris Dickinson.

[Ed Gamble]

Harris Dickinson. A wonderful actor, James.

[James Acaster]

Yes, A wonderful actor. To kick off the new the new series menu, episode one. We love Harris Dickinson. I'm probably gonna fanboy out a little bit because there's a lot of films that he's done in recent years. Triangle of Sadness, Scrapper, Iron Claw.

[Ed Gamble]

Love Iron Claw.

[James Acaster]

Baby girl. I saw just last night. I mean, very excited to have him on and ask him about all of these films. If I. If I may, in amongst the food chat.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes.

[James Acaster]

But, yeah, he's one of our finest actors.

[Ed Gamble]

Absolutely. And he's. It's gonna go from strength to strength for him, I think.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yes.

[James Acaster]

Yeah. This is the thing now that's we're.

[Ed Gamble]

Old industry heads, we can spot, we can, we can spot a future megastar.

[James Acaster]

When they've already become big.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. When they're already in huge films.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, very well. We're pretty good at it. But listen, we love.

[Ed Gamble]

Haps was nothing when we had him on, huh? Mescal was nothing.

[James Acaster]

Yeah. He. He hadn't even been nominated for an Oscar yet.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, exactly.

[James Acaster]

He just won a bafta. Now, listen, if Harris picks the secret ingredient, an ingredient which we deem to be unacceptable and we've pre agreed on it, then we will kick Harris out of the dream restaurant.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes.

[James Acaster]

With a heavy heart.

[Ed Gamble]

And today the secret ingredient is.

[James Acaster]

Baby Belle.

[Ed Gamble]

Baby Belle. He's in Baby Girl, which is in cinemas now.

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

If you say baby girl. Baby girl quick enough, it sounds like someone might go, did he just say baby belle?

[James Acaster]

Yeah. Baby. Bill to a baby girl, please. Oh, tickets. A baby girl.

[Ed Gamble]

You want a baby bell? This is a cinema, sir.

[James Acaster]

This is not a supermarket. If you want what, little individually wax.

[Ed Gamble]

Coated cheeses, there's never a situation where you'd ask for a baby bell. I don't think you're picking it up off a shelf or you've got it in your house.

[James Acaster]

You're getting that little net bag of them. Yeah, that weird little net bag.

[Ed Gamble]

Maybe if you're at home and the person you live with goes to the kitchen, you might go, oh, while you're in there, grab me a baby.

[James Acaster]

You wouldn't grab me a baby bell. Even if they're in the other room, you wouldn't ask someone to grab you a baby bell. Bring it in.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, gets a baby bell.

[James Acaster]

I love that advert. When we were kids, when it would like it was rolling away from the person.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. Bouncing off it.

[James Acaster]

Looks so great how it bounced. Yeah, that looks delicious. Even though it's still in the wax and it's bouncing on the floor.

[Ed Gamble]

Even though it had a little personality.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Made me want to eat it.

[Ed Gamble]

Reminds me of the film Rubber.

[James Acaster]

Rubber?

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, rubber. No, rubber.

[James Acaster]

Oh, the tire that kills people. Yeah. I went to see that in Birmingham. I remember, at the cinema. That's near where they put you up in the Glee for the Glee club. That's. I mean, not all of you are gonna understand what I mean. A very exciting way to kick off the new series, though, Ed. I'm very excited about this.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes, me too. We should get into it.

[James Acaster]

Okay.

[Ed Gamble]

This is the off menu menu of Harris Dickinson. Welcome, Harris, to the dream restaurant.

[Harris Dickinson]

Thank you.

[James Acaster]

Welcome, Harris Dickinson to the dream restaurant.

[Ed Gamble]

Very loud genie this morning.

[Harris Dickinson]

Very lovely.

[James Acaster]

Maintained eye contact for the whole thing. Yeah, I don't do that.

[Harris Dickinson]

That was full on a little bit uncomfortable.

[James Acaster]

Look you right in the eye when I was doing that.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

Thanks, mate. So nice to be here, guys.

[James Acaster]

Thank you.

[Ed Gamble]

It's lovely to have you here.

[Harris Dickinson]

May I get a few things out the way before we begin?

[Ed Gamble]

We'd love you to.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah. Firstly, deeply grateful to be here. I'm a big fan and I did ask to come on this full transparency because I like it and I like you guys. But also I have some apologies to make, so to speak. Or some air to clear with you, Ed.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, really?

[Harris Dickinson]

Yes.

[James Acaster]

Oh, wow, this is great.

[Ed Gamble]

We got beef and I didn't realise.

[Harris Dickinson]

No, it's not beef. It's sort of just a lie on my part. Years ago, I don't know if you remember, you, you were doing stand up the creek.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes, many times. Yeah, many times.

[Harris Dickinson]

Or maybe you weren't doing it. You were like in between introducing. What's that called?

[Ed Gamble]

Like, I'm saying, like. Yeah, yeah.

[James Acaster]

One of the best compares in the bit.

[Ed Gamble]

Used to compare up the creek a lot. So this all checks out.

[James Acaster]

So we'll break through the butcher for that.

[Harris Dickinson]

And so I went, you know, just plodded along with a mate. Yeah, there I am. You know, what a good time. Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

This normally ends with me calling someone.

[Harris Dickinson]

A pedophile is along those lines. No, you, you, you, you, you picked me out. And you, you asked, you were like, you there, chap. What do you do? And I wouldn't have said chap.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, well, you would have said something like that. You said, this fine gentleman here on.

[Harris Dickinson]

The front row, you said, you there, peasant boy, front row. No, you, you said, hey, mate, what do you do? I said, oh, I, I panicked. And I said, I work at the Jammy Dodger factory.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, God. And I would have torn you a new one for saying that.

[Harris Dickinson]

You did, you did, you did. But I think I had a little bit of conviction because you said, okay. And I went on a bit of a story. And you believed it. Yeah, yeah, maybe you did, maybe you didn't. And then after, great actor, you went off and then you came back on and you said, so, Harris, where is the Jammy Dodger Factory. And I said, it's just outside London. You said, oh, that's convenient because it's in Wales. You liar.

[James Acaster]

You went away. Googled it.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, I would have done.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

So you had me.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. Got you. I mean, this is it. If you're. You should know by now if you're researching a role, you need to do the full.

[Harris Dickinson]

I know. So I just want to apologize, really, for. For my lack of research and lying.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, yeah, that's good. I mean, I don't remember that particular incident, but that all trapped.

[Harris Dickinson]

I want you to apologize.

[Ed Gamble]

I'm sorry for not leav. You're like, just to have a nice evening and enjoy yourself and back you into a corner and have to say, you work in the Jammie Dodger Factory.

[Harris Dickinson]

Thanks, mate.

[James Acaster]

So you didn't want to say actor to him because then he definitely destroyed you.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[James Acaster]

Get you for that. So you went, jeremy Dodger Factory. Surely that's funny.

[Harris Dickinson]

And also, it was. It was a long time ago and I hadn't really worked yet, so I didn't want to be like, actor. You know, I work in a hotel.

[Ed Gamble]

You know, I would have torn you apart if you'd said actor as well.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

What you been in, mate?

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, exactly.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

Nothing.

[James Acaster]

That's the first time that one of us has spoke to an audience member. Then that audience member has ended. Ended up on our podcast. That's. That's insane when you think about it.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, I think so.

[James Acaster]

That's crazy. This is somebody who said to your work at the Jammy Dodger Factory, you went off, researched it, went back on and shamed them, ruined their night.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[James Acaster]

Got in their head.

[Harris Dickinson]

It's taken me years to go over it. Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

What's great about this is now you're a very successful actor with a number of lead roles in brilliant films. And I'm doing Up the Creek next week.

[Harris Dickinson]

But it's a great venue. It's good.

[James Acaster]

It's a good venue.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, it's a really good venue.

[Harris Dickinson]

You were loved. You were great.

[Ed Gamble]

Just to clarify, I'm glad I wasn't too mean.

[Harris Dickinson]

He was very nice.

[James Acaster]

He can be very mean. I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm sorry about that.

[Harris Dickinson]

But at least you out the way.

[James Acaster]

You kept it on food, you know, straight away, you were Jammy Dodger.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, That's.

[James Acaster]

What do you like Jammy Dodgers?

[Harris Dickinson]

I think I said to you, you said, what do you do there? I said, I put the jam in the Dodger.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, yeah, that's Good stuff. I would have enjoyed that.

[Harris Dickinson]

Okay.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, yeah.

[James Acaster]

Come on. You can't. You can't be angry about that. Why are you so mean to people? I wasn't.

[Ed Gamble]

It's clear that we had quite a fun shot, actually.

[James Acaster]

Horrible in that you come off really bad.

[Harris Dickinson]

You were cool. You were cool.

[James Acaster]

He put the jab at the dodger. Yeah, that's fine.

[Ed Gamble]

That is fun.

[Harris Dickinson]

That's a noble job.

[James Acaster]

It's a comedy night, mate. But that about funny. You're destroying him. I would.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, I know. I would have been in a bad mood or something. I'm sorry.

[James Acaster]

You're getting stuck up, hung up on geography, where you can have a whimsical.

[Harris Dickinson]

It must be fun to roast people.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, now and again for him. Now and again.

[James Acaster]

He loves it.

[Ed Gamble]

You love it.

[Harris Dickinson]

I've seen you do it well, too.

[James Acaster]

I never roast him.

[Ed Gamble]

The thing is, if I roast someone, I come off stage and go, what a great night. If he write something, when he comes off stage, he goes, oh, I'm depressed.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, I do.

[Harris Dickinson]

Do you sort of lay in. Lay in bed thinking about.

[James Acaster]

I go home on the train going like, man, that was a human being. What the is your problem? What are you doing, mate? They deserve that.

[Ed Gamble]

And I don't see them as human beings. I see them as little dollies for my. My pleasure.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, he does. Speaking of seeing people as dollies for your pleasure, Baby girl is out now. No, that's not what it's about. It's a brilliant film. I saw it last night. Benito went to see it as well and has already told you that when the certificate came up on the screen, it said there'd be sex in it. The whole cinema whooped. Yeah, I think people know about this film anyways. Everyone's talking about it. Everyone's very excited about this film. I don't know how much to say about it, because I don't want to give stuff away or get into, like. Also, it's not really what we normally talk about in the podcast is sex.

[Harris Dickinson]

No. But I think what's interesting about the film is, and the way that our director, Helena, has chosen to tell the story is that it's not an explicit film. It really isn't. And it explores sex and power dynamics and what it means to really, you know, hold your desires so close that liberation is so far away. Like with Nicole's character and my character, we meet each other in an office. I'm an intern. She's the CEO of this company. And what's so interesting is that we get to see two people, like, performing a little bit with each other and figuring out their roles in a strange sort of dynamic. And, you know, I don't know what it is, whether it's a relationship or an affair, but I think the comedy was always important to it because it's, like, awkward and embarrassing to play into these roles during sex. I like it for that reason. I like that the most erotic thing is probably the milk or the. You know, it's not the actual sex scenes, which I think we've seen enough of in film, like these sort of perfectly erotic sex scenes shot in a very sensual way, you know. I think, if anything, the film counters that a little bit, you know.

[James Acaster]

Do you know what the milk's about, Ed?

[Ed Gamble]

No, I don't know what the milk's about. I've not seen it yet. Sorry, Harry.

[Harris Dickinson]

So that's. Yeah, I mean, he asks Nicole to drink milk.

[James Acaster]

Well, he sends it over in a bar.

[Harris Dickinson]

Sends it over, yeah.

[James Acaster]

She's there. There's loads of colleagues around. No one knows what's going on. They haven't even really started doing anything yet.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

This guy sends a glass of milk over. He's just looking at her, and she drinks it and he says, good girl. Afterwards.

[Ed Gamble]

Wow.

[James Acaster]

You worry people gonna start sending you milk now when you're in bars. When I saw that, I thought, he's gonna get milk sent to him.

[Harris Dickinson]

Do people do milk in bars, though? Is that a common.

[James Acaster]

They'll bring milk along.

[Ed Gamble]

They'll bring White Russians.

[James Acaster]

They know you're.

[Harris Dickinson]

That's true.

[Ed Gamble]

There's always milk kicking around.

[Harris Dickinson]

That's true.

[Ed Gamble]

I'm more worried people are going to start sending you Jammy Dodgers in bars, to be honest.

[Harris Dickinson]

Bring them on. Yeah, bring them on. Dunk them. Yeah, perfect.

[James Acaster]

Actually.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Do you want. During your dream meal, we can send some milk over to you?

[Ed Gamble]

No, thank you.

[Harris Dickinson]

It seems like you'd like a glass of milk.

[Ed Gamble]

You're a real milk drinker. I reckon.

[James Acaster]

I had a glass of milk yesterday before the film. I want to point that out, but he was looking horrified.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. Adult man, you should not be drinking a glass of milk.

[James Acaster]

What are you talking about?

[Ed Gamble]

Good for you, little mummy's boy.

[James Acaster]

Not sucking my mummy's teeth, but that's what it represents. It does not represent that boils down.

[Ed Gamble]

When you really dig down into milk.

[James Acaster]

Does not represent sucking on your mommy's.

[Harris Dickinson]

Teeth a little bit.

[James Acaster]

You know what it's like to be on the receipt end of this.

[Ed Gamble]

He's shifting the focus.

[Harris Dickinson]

I respect the other Side.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, sure. He's. He's converted. Just normal milk, semi skimmed glasses. Semi skimmed yesterday. And then I went to see the film. I wouldn't have had it after the film.

[Harris Dickinson]

People. Yeah. People are asking me about the milk. Yeah. There's. I don't know, man. What do you. What do you say? It's very difficult, strange interactions.

[James Acaster]

That's the good thing about being an actress, that you don't have to tell them anything because you just go, well, that's the film.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yes, yes. Not me.

[James Acaster]

It's what you make of it.

[Harris Dickinson]

But people do think that's you. People think that's you. As soon as they've watched you in something. They think that's, like, your thing. Strange to encounter.

[James Acaster]

I think that's what Nicole Kidman's really good at, is that a lot of the time when I see her in films, like, she's so convinced as a character. But I don't think that is what she thinks in real life. Like.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yes.

[James Acaster]

I don't know why. There's. There's a separation where I'm like, I. I think she's just completely playing the role. And there's almost a part of her that goes for roles that are so far removed from who she is.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

That you can't really confuse them in a way. I don't know. That's how I felt watching yesterday. I wouldn't come away from it going, that's what the cold kid.

[Ed Gamble]

I don't think I ever watch any actor and think they believe everything in the film.

[James Acaster]

The Rock.

[Harris Dickinson]

My girlfriend loves the Rock.

[Ed Gamble]

Hey, look.

[Harris Dickinson]

And he.

[Ed Gamble]

I love the Rock.

[James Acaster]

I mean, you know, because he believes.

[Ed Gamble]

There'S a figure of him right there.

[Harris Dickinson]

There is. Do you like wrestling?

[Ed Gamble]

I love wrestling.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, me too.

[Ed Gamble]

Love the Iron Claw.

[Harris Dickinson]

Oh, yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

My two favorite things. Wrestling and unremitting, bleakless.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yes.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. Brotherhood.

[Harris Dickinson]

But just. Just going off, what you said about Nicole, she is such a. She's such a daring actor. I found even in her body of work, it's obvious that she chooses really risky filmmakers and, like, bold stories. But when you. When you do something with her, like, she. She's really prepared to just go to the most embarrassing place without fear of judgment of anyone. Because a film set is, you know, inherently quite embarrassing. Like someone described it the other day as. It's like a building site, and you have to walk up to the building site and stop everyone. What they're doing and be like, I'm gonna have an act now. Jack Loudon said it. The actor Jack Loudon. Said it. I was with him, and he was like, because it's true. You've got all these, like, grips and camp operators and technicians, and you're there like, I'm going to perform. And it's like this very, like, physical environment where, you know, you're stopping everything for a moment and being like, my turn. Stop what you're doing. Now. I'm gonna step in and do my thing. And then you're sort of sat. It's really weird and embarrassing. But she is just so good at jumping in and trying stuff. So that was a cool experience for me to be a part of that and forced me to also go there.

[James Acaster]

Were there times where you were thinking, do you ever think in scenes like, that's Nicole Kidman?

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[James Acaster]

I was glad to know that.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, of course. Yeah. I was saying to someone the other day, like, the first couple of weeks in the production, I. I really tried to play it cool and professional and, you know, didn't. Didn't ask her anything because I was like, you know, she's trying to do her job. I don't want to embarrass her. And then I was like, wait a minute. I was laying in bed one night, I was thinking, like, what? You need to ask her every single question. Like, how can you not. How can you work with someone that. And not ask? So the next day, it was like 10am and I was like, so how. Stanley Kubrick. I just have. You have to get over it. Because if you get to the end of that process and you've been too polite or too cool, you kick yourself, you know, working with someone like that. But then it's a weird one because it's a mechanism to not be starstruck, isn't it? To just be like, yeah. But then also, you meet someone like that or anyone like that. You know, years ago, I worked with Angelina Jolie, and I was like, how do I have a normal conversation with this person? I was like, 22 years old. Like, what the. Do I ask Angelina Jodie? Like, so you. You've been doing this long, or. It's a really difficult thing where you've known someone's work, you've grown up watching them, and you're then thrust into an environment, and you've got to talk to them in a very, you know. Yeah, professional, you know, normal. Like what? Going to work every day. It's like, you got any kids? Or it's like, you know, you know, information about them, whether you research them or not. It's just There. So that's a weird thing. I don't know if you guys find that when you meet people that you really admire, like, how to navigate the sort of interaction, like, do you go straight in with something?

[Ed Gamble]

We go in with poppadoms or bread, normally.

[James Acaster]

I mean, that's all sparkling.

[Ed Gamble]

That's how. What we've done is created a podcast and a format to do all of that.

[James Acaster]

What would you have done if you had said, nicole Kidman, what's your favorite job you've ever had? And she said, I worked in the Jammie Dodge effect.

[Harris Dickinson]

I would have deferred to Ed.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

To pull her, torn her apart.

[James Acaster]

Where is that, Nicole? Just outside of London, in Wales.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Now I'm gonna go and act. Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah. That was the impetus for me to go and.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

Really do it.

[Ed Gamble]

You're welcome.

[James Acaster]

We all start with still a sparkling water. Harris, you have a preference?

[Harris Dickinson]

I do. I do like sparkling. Yeah. That's my. That's my bag. Do you know what? I. I did this job years ago, and I had a driver who was lovely, and he. You know, he was taking me every day. It was out to one of the studios, and he loved Sampel. He was always drinking it, and he noticed that I liked it, so he used to buy me a bottle most days. So I'd get in the car and there'd be a bottle of San Pellegrino there. And I got so spoiled, you know, I was like, wow, what a treat, you know, I said to him, you're not like, I can't let you buy this for me. He said, no, no, no. I'll charge it back to the production. Don't worry. We were doing it for months, so after a while, we got really comfortable, and his wife started making me this, bless her, this, like, chaya pudding. And it was like a healthy, you know, like chai seeds.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

Overnight, and they go, like, squidgy. And he started making me that. And he was like this, you know, proper, like, East End bloke that had kind of converted to, like, ketogenic diets. And so he started teaching me about. And he. His wife would make me these puddings. And by the end of the job, you know, he would. He would. By the end of it, I sort of was like, I don't really want them anymore. You know, I wasn't.

[Ed Gamble]

I wasn't pretty fed up with the chair puddings.

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

I wasn't loving them, but I felt rude. And. And one of the days I was in the makeup trailer with, like, some bigger actors, like, Everyone was sharing all. You know, there was like eight of us in there. And he knocked on the door and he was like, harris, your pudding's in your trailer. And everyone looked at me like, what the is going on here? Like, is that your driver? Like, what. What do you mean, pudding? And I was like, it's like, yeah, it's like a help. Yeah. It's like his wife does it, you know, tried to get myself out of it, but that always reminds me of. Of him whenever I see sparkling. But. Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Sparkling water. Do you want a little cheer pudding? You can put it in your trailer.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, I think I'm all right.

[Ed Gamble]

They come together, though. So if you want. If you want San Pellegrino, it has to come with a little cheer pudding.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I'd like to know the stats of how many people choose still. Like, is that a big choice?

[James Acaster]

I think last time it was pretty much even split. Was that right?

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Oh, it wasn't. Ben's shaking his head and saying that.

[Ed Gamble]

It has been even split.

[James Acaster]

It has been even split before. Yeah, he's got the stats.

[Ed Gamble]

He's got the stats.

[Harris Dickinson]

What do you guys choose?

[James Acaster]

I choose still water.

[Ed Gamble]

Well, no, in our episodes.

[James Acaster]

Oh, yes.

[Ed Gamble]

We did our dream menus a couple of times.

[Harris Dickinson]

Did you?

[Ed Gamble]

The first time we did it, I chose a pint of Guinness.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, we.

[Harris Dickinson]

That's.

[James Acaster]

We cheated.

[Ed Gamble]

We cheated. Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

Shouldn't that be reserved?

[Ed Gamble]

Guinness is very hydrating.

[Harris Dickinson]

Is it? Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

He was able to justify it.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah. I love a Guinness.

[James Acaster]

He doesn't have the stats, Ben. Why would you say you have the stats when you don't have the stats? That's a very odd thing to lie about. Yeah, he's. Pop them some bread.

[Harris Dickinson]

Stats.

[James Acaster]

We can get to them later.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, we'll get to them. I am intrigued. Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

But no, I think sparkling, I think, is more popular than I. Than I thought it would be.

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

It feels like a treat, doesn't it? I used to work in a hotel and we had the.

[Ed Gamble]

Where is the hotel?

[Harris Dickinson]

In Edge of East London. It was a.

[Ed Gamble]

No, it's in Wales.

[Harris Dickinson]

I just looked it up and we had. We had boxes of Harrogate Springs.

[James Acaster]

Oh, yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

Which I don't like.

[James Acaster]

So you don't like how I get.

[Ed Gamble]

Thank you.

[Harris Dickinson]

I don't like it.

[Ed Gamble]

I hate Harrogate Springs. I've got a real issue with it. It tastes like. Like weird tap water.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, same. The sparkling. It's dreadful. Sorry, guys, but it just doesn't. Sorry.

[Ed Gamble]

I had a bad gig in Harrogate once, like really bad. It was like going really badly. It was a tour show. It's like my first tour.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

And I got so angry I started slacking off the water. That didn't make it any better.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Your water sucks. Harrogate Springs is the worst water.

[James Acaster]

I've had a go at Harrogate before.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

It's just sort of. Their tea rooms are.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, it's not a. It's not a vibe. They. We used to have to put them out for weddings and they used to have functions in the. In the. I was going to say funeral. We did have funerals and the Harrogate was always like a. Something you have to put out.

[Ed Gamble]

It's a very hotel water. Yeah, yeah. Miserable. It tastes like they put loads of paper clips in it and then sift the paper clips out. It's got a sort of metallic taste.

[Harris Dickinson]

That's interesting. Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Harrogate, while you're drinking San Pellegrino at your dream meal, do you want us to be chucking like, Harrogate Springs, like, in the bin? In the bin.

[Harris Dickinson]

That's a nice idea. Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Just getting rid of it all.

[Ed Gamble]

Is there something about it that reminds you of that job? Do you have good memories of that job?

[Harris Dickinson]

Yes and no. I mean, it was like hard work and it was nice people, but the hotel itself was strange and the people that stayed there were strange. So it was. It was mixed. We used to get a lot of like. So they would put groups of local, you know, like security guards that. That sit in car parks and stuff. There was like a firm that would train those guys up so there would be groups of those guys coming into the hotel and they would get 10 pound allowance for food and drink. And I would work on the bar. I mean, I. Look, I applied to work on the bar, I ended up working on the bar, I ended up working the kitchen, I ended up delivering room service. I ended up setting for weddings. You know, they were really just doing whatever possible and these guys, these groups of guys would come in and it was quite sad. You know, they would be there on their own, away from home and it wasn't a nice hotel. And they would come to the bar and say, oh, can I have a look at the menu? And I'd give them the pre organized menu that they were. And it was like three options. Yeah, it was a tenner and you get a drink and some of them would say, can I have chips instead of salad? And I'd say no. And I'd have to tell Them? No, I say, if you want that, you have to pay extra. And they go, all right. And they'd get their coins out, and they say, oh, God. And then you deliver it in the room, and they're just sat there on their own and they want to chat, and it's. It was just odd, you know?

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

But that's very sad. So maybe that's what. That's what it brings to mind. It's like, there's no such story.

[James Acaster]

I don't think we've ever had such a sad story.

[Ed Gamble]

I mean, I asked the question. To be fair.

[James Acaster]

I like it.

[Harris Dickinson]

I like.

[James Acaster]

I like that we've got a bit of this podcast can do it all, but that is. Yeah, it's never got sadder than that.

[Ed Gamble]

And used to think I hated Harrogate spring water.

[James Acaster]

That was sad.

[Ed Gamble]

Harriet. Spring water is gonna make me even sadder now.

[James Acaster]

Yeah. Pop knobs or Ben. Pop knobs or bread. Harris Dickinson.

[Harris Dickinson]

Pop knobs or bread. Oh, bloody right.

[Ed Gamble]

Well, that went well. Because James was worried that he can't surprise people anymore. So what he did to you, which was quite cruel, is he waited for you to have a sip of your drink.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

And you were halfway through, and it nearly. It nearly came out your mouth.

[Harris Dickinson]

It did.

[James Acaster]

Would that be a good film? Someone who's worried they can't surprise people anymore.

[Harris Dickinson]

Sounds like a Ben Stiller film.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. It's like a Liar Liar sequel.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

But now he can't surprise.

[James Acaster]

Can't surprise people.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

He's got a problem.

[Harris Dickinson]

Or an Adam Sandler film.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

I'd like to see that with Adam Sandler.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

In, like.

[James Acaster]

Surprised anymore.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Well, maybe, like. Yeah, he, like. He's, like, hosts a prank show or something.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. He would have to have a job that demanded he surprise people.

[Harris Dickinson]

Or like, a children's entertainer.

[James Acaster]

A magician.

[Harris Dickinson]

A magician, yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Ghost. Ghost train.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah. Operator.

[James Acaster]

Well, if it was a ghost trade. Operator. Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

They have to surprise people.

[James Acaster]

What's that?

[Harris Dickinson]

What is that?

[Ed Gamble]

A ghost train. Operator.

[Harris Dickinson]

What's a ghost train?

[Ed Gamble]

What's a ghost train? This is huge. I get to tell Harris Dickinson what a ghost train is. You haven't been on a ghost train.

[Harris Dickinson]

No.

[James Acaster]

As soon as you start explaining it, Harris will know what you're on about.

[Ed Gamble]

All right. You know, it's fun, fair.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

You get in a little car and it goes in to a little structure.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, I do know. Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

What do you think?

[Harris Dickinson]

There was something, like, loftier that I was unaware of.

[Ed Gamble]

No, no, no.

[Harris Dickinson]

He made it sound Polar Express kind of situation. I was like, I don't know.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, he made it sound.

[Ed Gamble]

Do you call it a ghost train?

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The theme park. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Why would you not assume I was talking about a ghost train in a fairground?

[Harris Dickinson]

Because, like, an operator. I don't know why. I just imagined something a bit more, like, sophisticated that I hadn't experienced.

[Ed Gamble]

Right, okay. I think maybe the word operator was a bit.

[Harris Dickinson]

A bit lofty for Adam Sandler working in the theme park, operating the ghost train.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Popping up some bread, Harris.

[Harris Dickinson]

Popping ups or bread. I'll do bread. I do. I do bread. I do. Have you guys been to Cafe Cecilia? Yes. You know the Guinness bread? Yeah. Can I do that?

[James Acaster]

Yeah, absolutely. You can do that.

[Harris Dickinson]

It's dense.

[James Acaster]

My girlfriend's gonna be very happy. It's one of her favorite breads. That's not got a shout out on.

[Harris Dickinson]

The podcast yet, is it not?

[James Acaster]

She loves the Guinness bread at Cafe Cecilia. Have you had the ice cream that they make out of it? No, they make ice cream out of the Guinness bread.

[Harris Dickinson]

Really?

[James Acaster]

That's out of sight.

[Ed Gamble]

I mean, anything that has Guinness in it.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

I'm ordering it straight away.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

There's a great ingredient in. In anything, and I do.

[James Acaster]

In water, apparently, for this guy.

[Ed Gamble]

You took me there.

[James Acaster]

I took you there.

[Ed Gamble]

James is always so proud of himself when he recommends me somewhere.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Well, normally puffed up and excited.

[Harris Dickinson]

Food offs.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, not really.

[Ed Gamble]

I have food offs.

[James Acaster]

I bow to the master.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[James Acaster]

You know, Ed's the one who knows all the. Whenever someone says to me, like, you know, oh, you got a food podcast? Can you recommend somewhere? I'm like, yeah, his head Gamble's phone number.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

You got to stop doing that.

[James Acaster]

Ask him.

[Harris Dickinson]

He knows with my brother. My brother recruits for, like, a lot of, like, the food scene, and so sometimes I recommend him and he's like, okay, I'll have a look at it.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

You know, really? I'm like, what's good? You know?

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

You know? Yeah, I'll let you know.

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

It's nerve wracking giving recommendations to people.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah. Is because a lot of people coming from America as well that always have this view of, like, London as bad food, and I'm like, no, it's good just, like. And then you feel the pressure of that, you know? Yeah, yeah, man, it's hard, but, yeah. Guinness bread with lots of. Lots of butter. Soft butter, you know, whipped butter.

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Whip it up.

[Harris Dickinson]

Do you guys ever make bread? Like, is that A thing you've done.

[Ed Gamble]

I. You know what I keep thinking about? I should do it. I bet that would be really satisfying to make bread. And then I remember they sell it everywhere. You can literally go shop.

[James Acaster]

You can go shop.

[Ed Gamble]

You can go shop.

[Harris Dickinson]

Go shopping.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. And nice bread as well. It's.

[Harris Dickinson]

What's nice bread for you?

[Ed Gamble]

A nice sourdough or just a nice proper baked loaf?

[Harris Dickinson]

A proper bakery, yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

I live near so many bakeries, it almost seems rude to make it myself at home.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, yeah.

[James Acaster]

Disrespectful.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

It's like you saying to them, I could do it, I could do this.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, but.

[Harris Dickinson]

But the process. Maybe. Maybe there's something I'd enjoy the process.

[James Acaster]

Just love talk about the process.

[Harris Dickinson]

The process. Yeah, but just.

[Ed Gamble]

Do you bake bread?

[Harris Dickinson]

No, I don't. I don't. But similarly. Yeah, I made a focaccia. My. My partner hosted, like a Hindu, and I made them a focaccia in the shape of a heart. And it was pathetic. Yeah, that was pathetic.

[James Acaster]

Don't mind me saying that. You're trying very hard to get the hen do the, like.

[Harris Dickinson]

Well, I wasn't there. I left. I sort of did it and left, but it was like a pathetic moment where I was like, what did they. This is a low point.

[Ed Gamble]

Did they request?

[Harris Dickinson]

They didn't request. They. Rose said to me, she said, can you maybe make a bit of that focaccia? You did. Because for catch is easier, isn't it? It's just like a bit, right?

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

It's not like a whole.

[Ed Gamble]

And then I don't like it when people. You got to jam your fingers into it.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah. Use something else.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

That'S too suggestive. I know you didn't mean it to.

[Harris Dickinson]

Be, but that was a low moment. Yeah. Making that.

[Ed Gamble]

Did they request it in the shape of a heart?

[Harris Dickinson]

No, of course I didn't, Ed. I just. I just thought, well, this is, you know, I'm trying to make it fun. And then I had to leave because we did. It started in the house and I did it and then I sort of had to walk around and go out for the afternoon. I was just thinking, like, this is really sad that I've just done that and they're gonna also be looking at it thinking, wait, he made that?

[James Acaster]

Yeah, yeah. Well, my girlfriend was in a house share years ago with three other women, and one of them had just started going out with this guy, and it was Valentine's Day, and he came into the living room and he bought a Rose for each one of them, gave them all roses and then went out with his girlfriend. As soon as he left the house, the other three went, that's a bad guy.

[Harris Dickinson]

That's wet behavior.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, we don't like that guy.

[Ed Gamble]

He bought a rose for everyone.

[James Acaster]

Everyone gave them all those.

[Harris Dickinson]

Single rose.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, yeah. There you go. For each one of them. And then they were like, oh, thank you. As soon as he leaves. Yeah, that guy.

[Ed Gamble]

At least if it was bread they could eat.

[Harris Dickinson]

That's weird.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, yeah, that is weird. Yeah, yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

Oh, bless him, though.

[James Acaster]

No, someone. It was a.

[Harris Dickinson]

It was a bad egg.

[Ed Gamble]

Did he say ladies when he gave them all the roses?

[James Acaster]

Oh, yeah, I think he said stuff like that.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. Yeah.

[James Acaster]

But a rose as beautiful as every one of you.

[Ed Gamble]

Everyone deserves a flower on Valentine's Day.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, something like that.

[Harris Dickinson]

Oh, but the romance thing is hard because I know that some people do like it. It. I don't know if you guys experience, you know, how you navigate that, but some people are into it. So it's some people's, you know, love language, isn't it?

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

Romantic. It's like. It's not attractive.

[Ed Gamble]

But romance comes in many different guises, you know, for sure. It has to feel authentic.

[Harris Dickinson]

For sure.

[James Acaster]

Well, this is what your film's about, Harris.

[Harris Dickinson]

Is it?

[James Acaster]

Yeah, it's about, you know, it's about knowing what different people are into and being able to.

[Harris Dickinson]

It's true. It's true. Yeah. What works for you?

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

What your idea of pleasure is. Yeah. How you communicate. Yeah, you're right.

[James Acaster]

Not judging it.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah. See, you took a lot from this.

[Ed Gamble]

He was focusing.

[James Acaster]

My only regret is that I sat at the back and I went on my own.

[Harris Dickinson]

Right.

[Ed Gamble]

Did.

[James Acaster]

Not a good look.

[Ed Gamble]

Not a good look.

[James Acaster]

Not a good look. My girlfriend was meant to be coming with me, and she was like, oh, I've just remembered, I got to stay in for Ocado. Ocado. I was like, are you kidding me?

[Harris Dickinson]

Like an excuse.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

Go on your own. You're dead.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, I went. Saw it like a little grubby perv. Come home. As I'm telling her what the film was about. DOORBELL rings. Cicado. So you're joking.

[Harris Dickinson]

I went to, you know, Prince Charles?

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

I went to the Prince for listeners.

[James Acaster]

Who don't live in London.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Did not go and see it with.

[Harris Dickinson]

Prince Charles to his house.

[Ed Gamble]

Where's King Charles now?

[Harris Dickinson]

King Charles, Yeah. You know. No, I went to that cinema last year with a friend and we watched a film that was like an Extended cut. And it was quite long. And so I took my shoes off and I was. You know, that there was no one in front of me, so I was sort of like playing footsie with the chair in front of me, you know, just like plodding it here and there. And after about half an hour, I thought that my foot was on the chair, but I started to feel a human head. And so what I thought was a chair was a human head and it was a bald head. So my foot was on someone's head and they were on the floor in front of me. And I got so startled by it that I, you know, I. I sort of looked over and there was a man laying on the floor and. And. And he scurried away. And, you know, his argument. When I said to him, what are you doing? He said, I was looking for my wallet. I said, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You've been there for 20 minutes. You. That wasn't. You weren't looking for your wallet. You've been there for a good 20 minutes. Like, my foot has been on your head for a while. Like, what the are you doing down there? That was weird. That just reminded me. Sorry. Yeah, yeah. This bloke on the floor, much creepier.

[James Acaster]

Time than I had.

[Harris Dickinson]

Isn't that weird? How'd you explain it? And then he did leave as well, actually.

[Ed Gamble]

That's all on him as well. You can't feel bad about that.

[Harris Dickinson]

No.

[Ed Gamble]

The fact is.

[Harris Dickinson]

But what point did he get down there? How did he get down there? How did I not see him?

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

Was he looking for something?

[Ed Gamble]

Did he want a foot on his head?

[Harris Dickinson]

Did he. I think maybe he wanted a foot on his. Maybe he does that. Maybe he goes there.

[James Acaster]

How is he looking at the feet? That's a good way of getting it. Like, how is he? Kind of. Cinemas are good. I can get on the floor there and people don't know it's my head. They can get a seat.

[Harris Dickinson]

It's the dark, isn't it? Yeah. But like Batman. Like Batman, he moves in the shadows.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, he moves in the shadows.

[Ed Gamble]

He is a version of Batman. Yeah. A Batman who just crawls around.

[Harris Dickinson]

Grubby Batman.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. Grubby Batman.

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Dirty Batman.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah. Was there a lot of. Was there anyone next to you when you went to watch it, or was you.

[James Acaster]

No.

[Harris Dickinson]

On your own?

[James Acaster]

Unfortunately, there was two women in front of me and that didn't do me any favors. I was like, I would have rather the seats in front of me were empty or were blokes, because as it is. And now I don't look like I've deliberately sat here, but, yeah, yeah, I wasn't. Wasn't delighted.

[Harris Dickinson]

Do you guys eat when you go to a cinema? Do you, like, eat and drink? I'm always intrigued.

[James Acaster]

Sometimes people have a go at me because I've got a small bladder.

[Harris Dickinson]

Same.

[James Acaster]

So if I go and see a film. I actually didn't get a drink yesterday because I was like, you get scared. I'm talking to this guy tomorrow. I've got to know what this film was about.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

I can't be going out by himself at that film.

[Ed Gamble]

You can't be running off to the toilet every 10 minutes.

[James Acaster]

Well, is that. Actually, that's more of an issue.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, My mum does that. My mum uses the toilet a lot. Whenever she comes to a film, I see her go about five times faster and I'm like, well, you don't know what the film is about.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

She's like, brilliant.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

That was brilliant.

[Harris Dickinson]

Brilliant. Which bit, Mum? Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Let's get into your menu proper now. Your dream starter.

[Harris Dickinson]

So, again, it's a bit basic, back to the bread thing. But I. I went to a restaurant recently, they served for a starter. It was bread, honey roast, ham, marmalade and butter.

[Ed Gamble]

Wow.

[Harris Dickinson]

And it was obviously like a sort of trendy take on, like, leftovers or whatever it was around Christmas time. And I just feel like that, as a combination is really, like, hearty. Yeah. You know, proper good chunk of ham, marmalade, which I never thought I would put together with that. Yeah. And warm. And warm butter. It was nice, man. It reminded me of, like. Yeah, leftovers.

[Ed Gamble]

Super Christmassy.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

I love a big old chunk of ham at Christmas.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah. And it's always like the. You know, my stepdad would always be like, you know, an hour after dinner, be like, right, ready for a sandwich, not ready for a bit of gammon. You know, it's like straight away. Yeah. It just brings back that. That, like, fullness of Christmas. Yeah, yeah. I love.

[Ed Gamble]

And when you eat things like that outside of Christmas time.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

That's always exciting. But you feel. You feel like you're doing something wrong.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yes.

[Ed Gamble]

I can't believe I'm having ham outside of Christmas time.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Honey roast ham. Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Like a big chunk of gammon. Yeah. James, you know what I mean? You understand, James, you understand.

[James Acaster]

I don't know why that's made me laugh so much.

[Ed Gamble]

We're on the same page over here.

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Well, like, Christmas ham.

[Harris Dickinson]

Is there an in joke about ham with you.

[James Acaster]

No, it's funny that he. He's talking to me like this. A big chunk of ham. You understand?

[Ed Gamble]

Joe, you seem to be saying what ham reminds you of Christmas.

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

You think we're talking about like wafer thin ham, which we're not. We're talking about Christmas ham.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, Christmas.

[James Acaster]

Even someone cutting up a ham. I wouldn't think, oh, it's not Christmas time. I can't eat this ham.

[Ed Gamble]

Even the taste of that. The way.

[Harris Dickinson]

Have you ever gone to a restaurant and ordered a joint of honey roast ham?

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Some salmon or some ham. When we join out of season. When. Oh, it's. It's so. It's so common. I can't even pinpoint it.

[Harris Dickinson]

What we're talking about like a calvary or like a. Maybe a normal restaurant.

[James Acaster]

Maybe a normal restaurant like anywhere.

[Ed Gamble]

Well, you're not, you're not giving us any specifics. You've not told us when you've had it.

[James Acaster]

Because I think it's so common. No, no.

[Harris Dickinson]

I'll have a side of gammon, please.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

No, I don't. I just feel like it's either carvery or like seasonal. I don't ever come across it in restaurants.

[Ed Gamble]

Thank you.

[James Acaster]

Pub lunch. I'll do a gammon for you.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, that's true.

[Ed Gamble]

It feels different, doesn't it? It's just not the same. It doesn't have the. It does the ring of like fat with the, with the sweet stuff on the outside. That, that to me is Christmas. Or cloves. Or cloves.

[James Acaster]

Disgusting.

[Harris Dickinson]

I do just love a roast dinner. A good roast dinner, you know, it's. It's standard. There's a good roast at the, at the Marksman in Hackney. That's a nice roast.

[Ed Gamble]

I've heard so much about that and I've still, I've still never been.

[Harris Dickinson]

But it's a good roast.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

It's not too big. It's like you finish it and you feel decent, you know, I don't know.

[Ed Gamble]

Whether I'd enjoy feeling decent after you feel disgusting. I think I have to commit to feeling awful for at least two days afterwards.

[Harris Dickinson]

Really?

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

It's like me with gigs.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. I want to look at a roast and go, yeah, this is the rest of the day. At least is. Is a write off.

[Harris Dickinson]

It's a write off. Yeah. For example, if you ate a roast at 2ish, would you have something in the evening?

[Ed Gamble]

If I'm really going for it, yeah. I'm gonna have some a dinner.

[Harris Dickinson]

Bits no bits.

[Ed Gamble]

Bitty tea?

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, yeah. Bitty tea, yeah. Leftover gammon.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Is it fair to say that do you like leftovers more than you like the actual Christmas dinner?

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah. There's something nice about sort of, you know, letting your body tell yourself it's hungry again, even though you're not in the evening, you know, a bit more.

[Ed Gamble]

Cheese or just forcing it in.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you feel about leftovers?

[James Acaster]

Yeah, I like him, man. Ed's got a full leftover day on Boxing Day. It's all leftovers and he gets to.

[Ed Gamble]

Be leftovers for about a week. Yeah, yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

You do it all my partner's family in Birmingham, they do. And then Jamaican. So they do with the turkey. They do like a curried turkey and then they do soul food, like, two days after. So that is like a much better version of leftovers. They really elevate some very British ingredients into something that's properly nice.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes. You're eating Christmas dinner, being like, get through this.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah. Tomorrow we get through this stuff. Two days we're gonna have, like, add.

[Ed Gamble]

Some spice to it.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

What's this restaurant where you got the leftover start?

[Harris Dickinson]

It's called Whites. It's in. It's in Hackney.

[Ed Gamble]

I'm gonna have to try it.

[James Acaster]

Yes.

[Harris Dickinson]

And I like watching people, like, they were doing it in front of me. It's like an open kitchen thing. I like that in restaurants when you can see everything going on.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

You know, my. I feel like you tend to want to go. I don't know how you feel about, like, a table or like a type of table. Like what you look for in that. But like sitting at a bar, as long as your feet are supported. I feel so true. By a Baldwin. Yeah. Preferably by a large bald man's head. But if they're swinging, that's not. That's not great.

[Ed Gamble]

No. You feel like a child, I think when you're like, feet are dangling over the edge and you're kicking them around, you need. You need either a bar run running along the bottom of the bar, if you see what I mean. Like a pole.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yes.

[Ed Gamble]

Or on the stool itself, a little support.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

So you can pop your heels up on it. Yeah, yeah. How do you feel about a bag hook?

[Harris Dickinson]

I'm not against it.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, Yeah.

[James Acaster]

I love discovering that. Under the. Under the counter.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

Like a full rucksack. It's not really sitting down.

[James Acaster]

Oh, a little coat hook under this.

[Harris Dickinson]

Someone's thought about it.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, I love it. Let me hang it up. Feel really clever.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah. What about when someone takes your coat? Are you into that?

[Ed Gamble]

I know this seems suspicious when it all. You always feel like you're being weird when you go into a restaurant. They're like, can we take your coat? I always say, no, I don't like it.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, I don't like it. I want to keep it close. I tried to do it today, didn't I?

[James Acaster]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

You nearly brought all your stuff.

[Harris Dickinson]

Well, I better leave it all out there.

[Ed Gamble]

The worst is going to a restaurant. They say, can I take your coat? And you say, no, I'll keep it. And then you get there and the chair is not in the right shape to hang a coat on.

[James Acaster]

There was a reason why I always let them take my coat.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

I absolutely love it.

[Harris Dickinson]

Do you?

[James Acaster]

Oh, yeah. I feel like a king.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Yeah. I feel like a duke, at least. A duke, yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

What about if it's a quite nice restaurant and you've turned up wearing like quite a shit coat and then you see your coat being hung up with all the nice coats. I feel bad then.

[James Acaster]

Well, you've never had a coat, Ed.

[Ed Gamble]

I've had a coat, mate.

[James Acaster]

No, this guy's never had a coat. He's trying to make out like he's the common man. Earlier you said, we're talking about a hammered Christmas, James, you see, so don't even say that.

[Ed Gamble]

I said, you understand. Yeah, but like really fancy restaurants, everyone's got nicer coats than me, man.

[Harris Dickinson]

It's true. Even the coat you turn up in today would probably be deemed. Yeah, like casual.

[Ed Gamble]

Not nice. Not nice enough. Too casual.

[James Acaster]

Not really. But I love seeing my coat go up with all the other coats. Now you stay there with your friends. Yeah, you make friends. Maybe some of that. Those nice coats, the smell will rub off on mine. And I smell, I smell like a jet.

[Harris Dickinson]

And then when they bring it back to you, you place your arms behind you, ready for them to put it on for you.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, I do it like Titanic. Yeah. And let them put it on me. And then I smell it.

[Ed Gamble]

This is not looking good. You went. You went to see Baby Girl by yourself and now you're saying you smell your coat when it's been next to some ladies coats.

[James Acaster]

Listen, this may as well be the episode. I'll come out with a per.

[Ed Gamble]

That was long ago, that episode.

[James Acaster]

Yeah. I used to be a bold man and go to see films. Your dream main course.

[Harris Dickinson]

I have been talking about this for a while with my siblings because my dad, when my. When my parents blew up, my dad moved to this Flat nearby. And he used to do this spaghetti bolognese, but it was like a bit of a ad hoc situation. And he was a good cook, but he'd throw a lot of random stuff in there, and there was always these, like, sausages in there. And I don't really know what they're called, but they're. You know, it's like a German sausage that you, you know, it's not, you know, it's not a Cumberland, you know, it's like. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And he'd put those in there and he'd put load of red wine and you know when you're a kid and you think, whoa, feeling that wobbly up here. You know, I mean, 11 year old.

[James Acaster]

Come on.

[Harris Dickinson]

And. And better Malbec. And he did that for a long time. And we all. And we always sort of requested it, me and my siblings, we always go and be like, oh, dad, can we do this back bowl? And he'd be like, all right. You know, he thought he was. Yeah, he thought he was living, you know, it was it. And then he met a lady, my. My stepmom, who's lovely, and she is also a good cook, and she kind of took over the cooking a little bit. And so after a while, the sausage left the dish.

[James Acaster]

Oh, no.

[Harris Dickinson]

And it was like a quietly understood thing that, you know, we were a bit gutted about it. Yeah. It was like, why don't you do it like that anymore? Yeah. I think maybe something along the lines, you know, it changed or something along the. She didn't. She said it's a bad idea. Get that sausage out of it. Bless them. Bless her. Whatever. So I would say I'll do. I'll do that with the sausages, but maybe with a short rib. Cause I really like short rib.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

And I've been. I've been cooking a lot of that lately. So I do that like a short rib ragu with the. With that sausage. And then I do it with a nice pappardelle. Is that a pappardelli? And. Yeah, lots of cheese. Lots of parmesan. Simple, but nice. Yeah. Filling. But if you do it right, you know, like, if you can cook, if you can get that right. It tastes so good, man. And it's simple, isn't it? It's like simple ingredients. It's not like loads of complex things.

[Ed Gamble]

But there's something so satisfying about, like, I guess you're really slow cooking that short rib.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, it's like three, four hours, isn't it?

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, it's like magic.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

So good.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

And I'm glad the sausage has made a reappearance in your. In your spag bowl.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

I love that you have to be like. Like, stepmom's a lovely lady and there's often a lot, you know, friction when someone new comes into the family. There wasn't any friction, just in one particular area, the sausage disappeared from the spag bowl.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, she was a good cook, so questioned it, but I think my dad sort of took a back step with the cooking.

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

And we were all a bit like, but what about the sausage?

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

So.

[James Acaster]

But you're supportive enough of the relationship that you didn't make an issue, which is very sweet. Of course, you and your siblings were like, we really want the sausage in the spag bowl. But look, we like this lady and she's good for our dad.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

So we're not gonna bring it up.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

She's not like an evil stepmom from a film.

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

We'll concede. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[James Acaster]

Not fleabag stepmom.

[Harris Dickinson]

Olivia Coleman. Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Well, she was bad.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, she was bad, yeah. Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Fleabag hated her. Remember, Fleabag didn't like that woman.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

And never really came around to. I think maybe in the final episode, that's some nicer words to say to each other.

[Ed Gamble]

Good show.

[James Acaster]

Good show.

[Harris Dickinson]

But what I like about the short rib situation is you have to go to the butcher's. Right. There's a butcher's down by where we are.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

And it's always carnage in there. I went before Christmas and it was so busy and there's like, you know, people buying, like, pigs foot and you're like, what are you doing with that? I'm very intrigued about what people do with various different.

[James Acaster]

You ever have a pig's foot outside of Christmas?

[Harris Dickinson]

No.

[James Acaster]

Pigs foot. You understand? Yeah. What I'm talking about outside of Christmas. It's crazy.

[Ed Gamble]

Do you ask people what they do with the pig's foot?

[James Acaster]

No, no.

[Ed Gamble]

Just intrigued. Yeah. Maybe I'd say, how are you going to cook that, what you're going to do with it? Yeah. So I'm fascinated by that as well.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah. You see all the different cuts and you think, I wouldn't know what to do with half of these.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

I know someone who would love to buy a pig's foot.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah. So do I.

[James Acaster]

The pervy bolt man.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

It lay on the floor and he'd hold the pig's foot and he'd just, like, hit himself on the head with it. Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

I think it's better that he does that, you know?

[James Acaster]

Yeah. That's nice, though, isn't it?

[Ed Gamble]

Keep it in the house.

[Harris Dickinson]

Keep it in the house. Yeah. He probably doesn't get the same thrill out of it.

[Ed Gamble]

No, that's true.

[James Acaster]

It's like, not as good as when Harris Dickinson came in.

[Harris Dickinson]

It needs to be a warm human foot.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. And you can't be in control of it.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

It's like those. You know, those Indian head massages, those wire things. Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

It's good when you do it yourself.

[Ed Gamble]

Doesn't work, does it?

[Harris Dickinson]

No, no, no, it doesn't.

[James Acaster]

Yeah. In that man's defense.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

So your butcher's absolutely rammed.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah. Yeah. And there's always a panic when they ask, when they come to you, you know, what do you want? Short rib, please. Yeah. Trying to sound assured.

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

Confident with what you want.

[James Acaster]

Do you ever get a grams of it, please, in those situations, do you ever go like, come on, Hammers, you're an actor. Let's do this. Let's play the role of a confident guy at the butcher's. Does that ever help?

[Harris Dickinson]

Maybe I'm doing that always. Yeah. Maybe I'm doing that to cope a lot of the time. But it doesn't seem to work, James.

[James Acaster]

So you can't just kind of do one of my voices?

[Harris Dickinson]

Do you want my voices? Yeah, do an accent.

[Ed Gamble]

Do you ever do that? If you're doing. If you're doing something that requires the American accent, are you using it out and about?

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, a little bit. Yeah. It's a good tester, isn't it, to see if people. If people pull you up on it. I was doing it a lot in New York to see if. But you also feel like a bit of a tit, you know? Like you hear about people staying in accent the whole time and. And I tried it once and I spoke to someone and they were like, what the fuck are you doing? Like, what are you talking? Like, I was like, nah, sorry, sorry.

[Ed Gamble]

This has gone mad.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

It's just stupid. We've lost him.

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

Trying to do that with people that you're close to is abysmal, really.

[Ed Gamble]

But you'd walk into the butcher's and go, too short rib.

[James Acaster]

Too short rib?

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, too short ribs.

[James Acaster]

Tony, this guy, he's so good at accents.

[Ed Gamble]

That is good.

[James Acaster]

It's incredible.

[Harris Dickinson]

I got a pound of beef and.

[James Acaster]

A five pox, you know, Hell, look at that. For the listener. That's the same guy.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. We've not got an American in it.

[Harris Dickinson]

Just run in it, actors always want to do accents. Like we. I was telling you earlier, we. I made a film last year and we had an actor turn up and he. He was playing a difficult customer in a restaurant, someone that wasn't particularly happy with his steak. And he turned up and in the audition he was doing a very sort of well meaning, you know, well spoken London accent. And he was great and it was perfect. And he turned up on the day and he said, oh, listen, Harris, I think I'm gonna do a northern accent. I said, if it's okay, I think stick to your accent because it's really good. He said, I'd really like to try the northern. He said, I'd really like to try it. And he started speaking in it, you know, and I was like, okay, well, let's give it a go. You know, you gotta let him give it a go. Sure, yeah, Try, you know.

[Ed Gamble]

Is this in something that you've directed?

[Harris Dickinson]

This isn't something that I made. Yeah, last year. But that was, that was a interesting thing, being on the other side during the audition process where people, they want to try accents, you know. Yeah, Scouse accent, give it a go. And you know, it's like, why?

[Ed Gamble]

And was that the only. That was. His part in the film was just complaining in. In a restaurant.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He had a whole scene and he was great. It was a whole situation where it was kind of. You were on both sides, you know, it was like he was talking about the idea of the steak not being cooked the way I asked. But also he was being kind of reasonable, you know, so it was like, whose side are we on? Kind of thing.

[Ed Gamble]

So he wants something for his showreel that shows he can do different accents.

[Harris Dickinson]

Versatility. Yeah, versatility.

[James Acaster]

Maybe I should do that for my next stand up show. I could just do a different accent for the whole show. Yeah, man, that'd be good.

[Ed Gamble]

The thing is, sometimes he says these things and I'm like, he's not gonna do that. And then he does do it. Yeah, like letting people heckle.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, I did that.

[Ed Gamble]

I never thought you'd do that.

[James Acaster]

I did it.

[Harris Dickinson]

What did I see you on? You did that game show where they spin you around the wheel. What's that? I thought that was on a wheel.

[Ed Gamble]

I mean, you've pretty much described what it is. It's the game show where they.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, I love when people on the wheel. I was texting him before he went on it going, you've got a dance. When they spin the wheel there. I gotta get your dance down.

[Ed Gamble]

I love the wheel, so I would. I jumped at the chance to be on the wheel.

[James Acaster]

No, you don't jump.

[Ed Gamble]

You sit down, but you jump onto the wheel.

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

You've not done the wheel.

[James Acaster]

Off. I ain't done the wheel.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Off.

[Harris Dickinson]

What would be your specialist subject?

[James Acaster]

The wheel.

[Harris Dickinson]

The wheel.

[James Acaster]

I would answer questions about the wheel.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

I think I'll do pretty well on that.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. Heavy metal.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

The problem is it is random when you get spun in to answer a question, and I never got spun in. So I went all the way to the studio, sat on the wheel, got spun around and went home again.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, I noticed that.

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[James Acaster]

No one chose you.

[Ed Gamble]

No. No one chosen.

[James Acaster]

You know all of Ed's work.

[Ed Gamble]

The creek, the wheel.

[James Acaster]

Yeah. This is no accident.

[Harris Dickinson]

You've not watched my work. I've watched yours.

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Hey, I talked Iron Chlora.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yes.

[James Acaster]

Sorry, yeah, he mentioned it.

[Ed Gamble]

I've seen Triangle of Sadness, love.

[Harris Dickinson]

Joking.

[James Acaster]

Yeah. Yeah. He doesn't. He hasn't seen any of these. Your dream side dish. Harris.

[Harris Dickinson]

I. I'll try and be a little bit healthy. I feel like everyone always says greens and stuff, but it does balance it nicely, doesn't it? If you've got, like, a bit of a green situation, especially if your main.

[Ed Gamble]

Is Bolognese and short rib and sausage.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, sure. Can I do, like, Caesar salad? Is that okay as a side.

[James Acaster]

Of course you can.

[Ed Gamble]

That's great. You've hacked it. Because it's still green, but it's covered in cheese.

[Harris Dickinson]

But it's covered in cheese and mayonnaise and. Yeah, I don't really want the anchovies on top, like, full display. I don't mind them in the sauce, but. Yeah, that's a nice little side that can go nicely with more cheese, though. It.

[Ed Gamble]

What is it about the display of the anchovies that you don't like? You're happy to have them hidden in the dressing, but you don't want to.

[Harris Dickinson]

See them on top to consume all at once. They're too much for me, don't you think? They're too salty for me.

[Ed Gamble]

I. I love them.

[Harris Dickinson]

You love them? Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

But I'm glad they're still in the dressing.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, I want. I want the flavor there, but I want the paste. I want the. I want them hidden. Not because I'm fussy. Like, I'm not like a. A fussy eater, but. I don't know, having them all at once is like. Like a bit overwhelming for me.

[James Acaster]

Sure, I like them, but Like, I've grown to like them over the years. And also, you know, there's many different ways to have Caesar salad now.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

And I. I'm very lucky to be alive in an era where you just don't know what. How the Caesar salad's gonna be, what it's going to come with, what's going to be in there.

[Ed Gamble]

I worry about that, though.

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Because there's some bad Caesar salads out there.

[Harris Dickinson]

Oh, yeah. The small for one.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

But what.

[Harris Dickinson]

What do you mean? There's a lot of different types.

[Ed Gamble]

Good question.

[James Acaster]

At Mildred's. I'll get the artichoke one. It's got these artichokes in it. Caesar salad. It's got these crispy bits of. I think it's kale in there as well. It's delicious. But it's still basically a Caesar, same sauce, cheese and stuff. The other day I had had one from Farmer J's, where it's got these, like, crispy little crackers in it.

[Harris Dickinson]

Oh, yeah.

[James Acaster]

As well.

[Harris Dickinson]

I've heard that.

[James Acaster]

And. And feta in there, but that doesn't seem.

[Harris Dickinson]

That's not a Caesar.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, I know. I think Caesar salad, classic.

[Harris Dickinson]

It's just iceberg or whatever it's called. What else is it?

[Ed Gamble]

I think it's just iceberg or baby jam.

[Harris Dickinson]

Baby jam now in cinemas.

[James Acaster]

The John Mulaney. Yes. I went for the John Mulaney show and actually, it's much more relevant to go for Harris's baby jam.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes.

[Harris Dickinson]

But, yeah, it's croutons.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

What about that?

[Ed Gamble]

She's in the dressing.

[James Acaster]

What if the sequel is called Baby Jem? It's you telling a lettuce what to do.

[Harris Dickinson]

It's me and Antonio Banderas on a.

[James Acaster]

Quest, fighting over a lettuce.

[Harris Dickinson]

Fighting over a lettuce.

[James Acaster]

That's nothing people talk about. But, you know the intimate scenes you have with Nicole Kidman. You had to fight Banderas.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

You had to punch Zorro.

[Harris Dickinson]

I know, I know.

[James Acaster]

What's that like?

[Harris Dickinson]

Easy.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

No, I. I did have a bit of a moment where I was like, he's. He's very strong. He's a strong bloke. Do you know what I mean?

[Ed Gamble]

Did you tell him that?

[Harris Dickinson]

Of course I did. Good.

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

You got to tell people if you think they're strong. I think no matter how famous someone is, no matter how many times they've been told they're strong.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

I bet that gave him a little boost when he said that.

[James Acaster]

But he went, harry said I was strong today. But he Would have said that.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Even if it's just like back to the hotel. It says it in the mirror.

[Harris Dickinson]

Men are like that. That's how simple some we are. Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

As a species. I'm strong. Brilliant.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Great.

[Ed Gamble]

That's gonna get me through a week.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah. I'll thrive. I'll thrive. No, he's lovely, though. That was fun, getting to fight with him. Yeah, it was. It was quite intimate. It was quite sexual, really, when you think about it. It wasn't that.

[James Acaster]

Oh, yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

It was just rolling around. Yeah. On the floor.

[James Acaster]

Oh, yeah. The bit where he's having a panic attack in your forehead to forehead and you're talking him through it. It's very similar to what you like with her earlier in the film.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

A lot of giggles in my screen when that happened.

[Harris Dickinson]

Really?

[James Acaster]

Yeah. A lot of the ladies.

[Harris Dickinson]

What, When I put my head to his.

[James Acaster]

Yeah. A lot of the ladies were giggling.

[Harris Dickinson]

It's funny what people laugh at, isn't it? Like different audiences.

[James Acaster]

Tell us about it, man. Preacher to the choir, my friend.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah. It must be so strange to have to assess an audience, like, on the spot. What? Yeah. How did you guys do it?

[James Acaster]

I don't know. I mean, how do you do those brilliant voices?

[Harris Dickinson]

I think that's just watching people, isn't it, here and watching things. Some people have good ear, some people don't. Maybe.

[Ed Gamble]

Maybe, James.

[James Acaster]

What?

[Ed Gamble]

Maybe some people don't have a good ear for voices.

[James Acaster]

We said maybe, James. I thought you were saying Baby Jam again.

[Harris Dickinson]

Baby Jam.

[James Acaster]

It's a nice song.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

Should I think about that later? I'll keep that going. Everyone likes them. Baby Jam.

[Ed Gamble]

This is good. The Baby Gem. People are really excited now to imagine listening. They're gonna get in contact.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[James Acaster]

The Harrogate people are crying. They're throwing everything in the bin. They're shutting the factory down. The Baby Gem. They're going, here we go.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah. What have I said about.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, I've been too loose lipped on a Caesar, obviously. Probably not with this as a side dish. Are you having a grilled chicken?

[Harris Dickinson]

It's always nice, isn't it? Or pulled chicken's nice on a Caesar, you know, so you can get. Get in there. But with this, I think I'll do no chicken.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

Can I just add something back to my side?

[James Acaster]

Yeah, yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

Some gherkin. Is that all right? Yeah, just a bit of gherkin.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

I just remembered that was something I quite would like to have in the mix of things, you know, like just a jar of gherkins. That you can have throughout.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, just. Yeah, just always there. That you can occasionally just nibble on a gherkin.

[Harris Dickinson]

Is that all right?

[James Acaster]

Yeah, yeah, of course it is. I like that. That. That's nice. And are you getting them out whole and l. On a whole gherkin?

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah. Is that all right?

[James Acaster]

Of course it is. Do you want to shot the. The juice as well?

[Harris Dickinson]

Like a pickle back? Yeah, I do like a pickle back, but I don't think I'll. I'll make that part of the. The meal. Keep it classy, you know, but there's a. There's a. I worked with this guy years ago, and he. He would, like, often send me because we would talk about getting in late and being like, opening the fridge after a drink and being like, right, there's a pickle, there's a bit of cheese, there's a crisp in the drawer. There's a. You know, and just being like, right, I have a bite of that. I have a bite of cheese. I'll have a crisp. Whatever's available to sort of this weird combination of not. It's not quite, like, worthy of a meal. I don't want to make a meal. I just want to have a few different things, a few little bits.

[Ed Gamble]

Bitty tea.

[Harris Dickinson]

Bitty tea.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, it's a bitty tea.

[Harris Dickinson]

Bitty tea.

[James Acaster]

You keep really pushing this.

[Ed Gamble]

I'm pushing bitty tea.

[Harris Dickinson]

Pushing the town. Yeah.

[James Acaster]

How much he's pushing bitty tea this episode. I haven't heard him ever do this before.

[Harris Dickinson]

You.

[Ed Gamble]

You know, I love a bitty T. Yeah.

[James Acaster]

But you keep repeating the phrase and looking at him and trying to get him to say it.

[Ed Gamble]

Would you know where it's come from.

[James Acaster]

If he says it? A trap door's gonna open.

[Ed Gamble]

Because it's not my phrase. Bitty T is not my phrase.

[Harris Dickinson]

I don't know.

[Ed Gamble]

You know what I mean, though. You didn't know what it goes.

[Harris Dickinson]

It seems like you're coining it. Yeah.

[James Acaster]

It sounds like you're trying to get it in.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

Bitty T. Bititi excited when you. When you're getting back a brand of yours.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[James Acaster]

It's turned out it's got a new thing.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

When you have that moment where you're just getting together. A bitty tea.

[Harris Dickinson]

Bitty tea.

[Ed Gamble]

Are you taking a bite of the pickle, keeping it mouth. Taking a bite of the cheese, keeping it in your mouth and taking a bite of a crisp?

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

That's the pervious question we've had on the pod. Harris, I'm so sorry.

[Ed Gamble]

That's not perfect. You know, when you want a mix of everything, but I know it's.

[Harris Dickinson]

It. It's exactly that. It's exactly that.

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Why is that perverted? You're perverted for thinking it's perverted.

[James Acaster]

You're holding it in your mouth. You're holding that in your mouth and then putting that and holding that in your mouth also.

[Ed Gamble]

All the flavors mixed together.

[Harris Dickinson]

It's like when you have a bite of a cookie and then a bit of milk. You try and keep it in there.

[Ed Gamble]

There you go.

[Harris Dickinson]

So you can experience them both together.

[James Acaster]

There you go.

[Harris Dickinson]

Want to bring the milk? Let's move on from the milk or.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, or like a hot. Like a hot cup of tea and a biscuit or something. And.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, you could jump.

[Ed Gamble]

Or you can just mix it in your mouth.

[Harris Dickinson]

Do you know what we've been doing lately is a vodka tea Vodi tea. Just. Just me and my mates. Like, at a party, if you sort of run out of booze, you do a little body tea, but you run out of mixer. Yeah, it's a nice little end of night. It's like a hot toddy. Friend Troy does it, does a really nice, like, builder's tea and then puts a bit of vodka in it. And it actually works. Yeah, it's nice. Give it a go.

[James Acaster]

I think you should take that for med that name.

[Harris Dickinson]

Hot foddy, hot body, hot voddy.

[James Acaster]

Instead of a hot toddy, call it.

[Harris Dickinson]

A hot voddy Voddy tea. I've already got a name for it.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. Body tea is nice.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. Do you and your friends at the end of a house party ever have a bitty tea tea?

[James Acaster]

Oh, here we go. You don't have to answer that.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, no comment.

[Ed Gamble]

Okay. Thank you.

[James Acaster]

Your dream drink.

[Harris Dickinson]

Is it all right to have two? Yeah, I will have a tea, if that's all right. Like a good tea, Like a proper tea. I. I grew up in a household where tea was very important for any occasion. You know, happiness, sadness, shock. Have a tea. So I do a breakfast tea. A bit of. Bit of sugar, one sugar or a bit of honey. And then I'd do a whiskey sour. And I'll do it from. There's a place in New York. I'm not going to say the name.

[Ed Gamble]

No, you don't want to blow up your spot.

[Harris Dickinson]

I don't want to. No, no, it's not that I don't want to. I don't want to give it to them because they were a little bit rude.

[Ed Gamble]

To me, I love this. A grudge?

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, a grudge. Okay. I've got a lot of grudges, haven't I?

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

I'll tell you what it is though. We. We went there, there, we filmed there in, in this film and then.

[James Acaster]

This film.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yes. And then I said, can I come back here with some mates? Because it's a nice spot. You know, there was like a little, it was like a low lit and there was a piano and there was, you know, music. And I said, this is a good spot to come back to. You know, like I'll bring people back here. Friend was coming to town. And then I said, it's really hard to get a table. All of that in New York, you know, it's all of that like really like sceney like bar, food world where it's, it's so exclusive to get. You can't just go on resi and get a table.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

So someone that worked there, they got us a table, we go there and the drinks were wonderful. I'll say they were lovely. Whiskey sour, amaretto sour. Beautiful. But you know, we walked in, I wasn't dressed back to the dress code. I wasn't dressed bad. But like, I wasn't smart. I never really dressed smart unless I'm going to like an event or something, you know, the look they gave us when we walked in, it was like peasants that had won a competition. Do you know what I mean? It was like, I hate, I hate feeling that energy. It was like, sir, can you take your hat off? It's like, would you. Why take my hat off? I might have, you know, a bald patch in the middle of the head that I want to hide for the season.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

You know, I don't. Just to show you. Yeah, I got lovely head of head there. No, but I. It was like this snobbery. I hate the snobbery of it in, in places like that. They were also just sort of acting like we kind of couldn't afford to be there. And then you feel the need to kind of go overboard and prove that, you know, I can, I can afford a couple of drinks. I can afford 20 pound cocktails, thank you very much.

[James Acaster]

Do you ever leave those places? Like I've been in that situation sometimes before where you might turn up with some friends or whatever and they'll bring up a dress code or something that you weren't aware of and level it at one of the party. And sometimes it feels good just to go, oh, sorry, we didn't know about that. Well, we'll just Leave. If that's not right, if it's a dress code, we're not meeting it. We'll just leave. We'll just go. Just go. We just want drinks. So we'll go to a different bar.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

And that. In my head, they're gonna go, oh, oh, no, no, no. Please stay. We're so sorry. Instead they go, okay, cool. And you're like, oh, well, that didn't work. Look, I guess we've got to go to a different pub now.

[Ed Gamble]

Guys, I just don't understand it. I don't understand the dress code thing. Unless the dress code is, like, you gotta wear clothes. Like, sometimes you see a dress code on the door. It's like, make sure you wear a shirt. Well, I don't want to go in here anyway. If this is the sort of place where they have to remind you to wear a shirt, I'm not gonna like it in there.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, no trainers, yeah. What do you mean? Oh, no trainers.

[Ed Gamble]

No trainers.

[Harris Dickinson]

Can off get the winkle pickers out?

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

But that's. That's a part of my dream mission as well, if that's okay. Like, no, no snobby dress code. Like, people can wear tracksuits. People can wear dressing gowns if they want.

[Ed Gamble]

You know, also, there's nice. You know, there's nice tracksuits out there. There's nice dressing gowns. That does not. That does not mean you're not smart. You could wear a lovely. A lovely robe.

[James Acaster]

You got a dressing gown?

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Well, what kind of dressing gown is it? I've got a blue one. A blue fluffy one.

[Harris Dickinson]

Oh, lovely. Does it.

[James Acaster]

Not that fluffy, but it's soft.

[Harris Dickinson]

Does it fit you well?

[James Acaster]

Yeah, if it's great.

[Harris Dickinson]

Okay.

[James Acaster]

Fits really well. I can answer the door in it, put it that way.

[Ed Gamble]

I don't have a dressing gown, but I. I think I'm in the market. Dressing gown. I think this is going to be the year that I buy a dressing gown.

[James Acaster]

I think you have like a smoking jacket or something.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

I've been looking at some pretty fancy ones, I think.

[Harris Dickinson]

Have you? But they're not comfortable. You just need a big, like, hotel one, I think that fits you properly. Nothing fits me. I got long arms and long limbs. So normally I just look like a little boy in a, you know, undersized dressing camp. But I found one in a hotel. I nicked it that was perfectly fit. So, yeah, that's that. Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

Has it got a hood?

[James Acaster]

Hood?

[Harris Dickinson]

No hood, actually.

[James Acaster]

Maybe get one with a hood.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, the hoods the hood ones are weird, though. I think they are. Why'd you need a hood on a dressing gown? Where are you?

[Harris Dickinson]

I don't like the snood things that I don't like. They're like, you know, they're like blankets, like wearable blankets.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's so infantilizing, isn't it?

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, yeah.

[James Acaster]

They're on the way out, though. They had a very, very short time in the sun. I feel dragon. Yeah. Yeah. I think for a while everyone was talking about slankies and whatever, and now they're all gone.

[Ed Gamble]

That word even sounds disgusting. Slankies.

[James Acaster]

It sounds gross.

[Harris Dickinson]

Thank you.

[Ed Gamble]

Slow wank. That okay to say?

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Yes. Yeah, yeah. A slanky sounds like a slow wank. Ed Gamble.

[Ed Gamble]

I'm just offer a slanky.

[James Acaster]

I may be sometimes, but what is.

[Harris Dickinson]

That the need to feel like? You can't just say, all right, you know. You know, the need to. The need to make people aware that you. You in fact can afford a 20 cocktail. Like, what is that feeling? Like, is it. Does it come from.

[Ed Gamble]

Not some sort of insecurity, I guess.

[Harris Dickinson]

I'm allowed to be here, you know?

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

Or a chip on your shoulder. Maybe it's that maybe none of that existed. Maybe I've just fabricated all of it.

[James Acaster]

Well, this is what I have had leveled at me sometimes.

[Ed Gamble]

Every. I think you don't do this anymore. I think you're in a better place now. But there was a period of time where James and I would go to a lot of restaurants together, and the waiter or waitress would come over, take the order, be perfectly normal, and be like, thank you very much. Would leave, and James would turn to me and go, right, she hates me.

[Harris Dickinson]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[James Acaster]

I just think all.

[Harris Dickinson]

Wait, so you've got it as well.

[James Acaster]

They hated us. Yeah, yeah, they hate us. Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

Because you feel like you're being inconvenient or rude or.

[James Acaster]

No, they would just be like, I would just go to. People don't like me. Same as being on stage with the audience. I feel like they don't like me, so I've got to throw this in their face before they can reject me. Yeah, there'd be a lot of that.

[Ed Gamble]

But, like, yeah, he'd be wearing his slanky quite a lot of the time as well.

[James Acaster]

Not having a slanky. Can't be clear.

[Harris Dickinson]

I am jealous of people that can order very confidently and decisively. You know, people that can just go, yeah, I'm gonna get a side of this. I'm get that. I'm. Get this. No, this. Know this. Americans are quite good at that.

[Ed Gamble]

It drives me out of the wall. The.

[Harris Dickinson]

Though. Yeah. When they're just so bom, bom, bom.

[Ed Gamble]

I'm gonna do this, but you got to take out that. And then I want that. And they've completely replaced the dish.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

Let me get a Caesar. But no. No iceberg. No, no. An. But can I replace the iceberg for pasta? It's like.

[James Acaster]

Well, they won't even say. Even when you're playing that character. You said, can I? Because you betrayed your true self. Whereas they would say, I'm gonna.

[Harris Dickinson]

I'm gonna. Yeah, let me get.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, let me get a place.

[Harris Dickinson]

Let me get a burger. No burger.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, I do.

[Ed Gamble]

Sometimes if I'm in America, I do sink into the habit of saying, let me get. Because it's quite fun.

[Harris Dickinson]

Simulation.

[Ed Gamble]

Even earlier when you're asking for your dream drink, you said, I'm gonna. I'm gonna do.

[Harris Dickinson]

I'm gonna do.

[Ed Gamble]

Which is very American.

[Harris Dickinson]

Is it?

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, I think it is it. Yeah. I'm gonna do.

[James Acaster]

Oh, quite.

[Harris Dickinson]

I'm gonna do. Yeah, it's true. Right.

[Ed Gamble]

What I want is.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

We arrive at your dream dessert, Harris.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yes. And for this, I did actually bring you guys a little. A little situation.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, wow.

[James Acaster]

There we go.

[Harris Dickinson]

It wasn't. It wasn't planned, but I was. I was in town last night, and I had a slice of it.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

And I thought I should get this for the guys. I should get a whole.

[James Acaster]

The guys.

[Harris Dickinson]

You don't. You don't have to eat it now.

[James Acaster]

Obviously, I'm gonna.

[Harris Dickinson]

But it's. I'll show you.

[James Acaster]

I don't even know what it is yet.

[Harris Dickinson]

It's a Basque cheesecake. Yeah.

[James Acaster]

I'm eating this.

[Harris Dickinson]

Oh, do you want to have a little. Yeah, from. From some Japanese patisserie and.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, a Basque cheesecake from a Japanese patisserie.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

That's wild.

[Harris Dickinson]

In shafts on Shaftesbury Avenue.

[James Acaster]

Oh, yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

I might as well get it for you.

[James Acaster]

Thank you.

[Ed Gamble]

Thank you so much. That looks absolutely outstanding. Do you want to have a little peek?

[James Acaster]

I'm gonna eat it, Ed.

[Harris Dickinson]

Okay. There you go.

[Ed Gamble]

Then have a little peek with your mouth.

[James Acaster]

I have a little peek in my mouth. I'm gonna eat this one. Is this your dream dessert?

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, I think it is. Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

The Basque cheesecake.

[Harris Dickinson]

Well, I. I sort of came in with it as a. As a cheesecake. A general cheesecake.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

And then. Is it lasted. All right.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, it's. It's held together very nicely.

[Ed Gamble]

I'm just going, okay. What, so there's no chance of me taking a slice of this home because James is just eating.

[James Acaster]

What are you talking about? There's loads you can slice up there. I'm just taking a chunk off the edge.

[Ed Gamble]

God Damn. I'm Kevin McAllistering it.

[Harris Dickinson]

Look at that.

[James Acaster]

That's my life mate. I'm Kevin McAllister.

[Harris Dickinson]

Is that nice?

[James Acaster]

That's delicious.

[Harris Dickinson]

Thank you.

[Ed Gamble]

You're jealous of your own cheesecake.

[Harris Dickinson]

No, I'm just glad.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. That looks really good.

[Harris Dickinson]

The cheesecake. I love a cheesecake. I love just a standard cheesecake, you know. Yeah. Let me get a standard, no, normal cheesecake without all of the frills. Without like, you see a lot of cheesecakes now with Oreo or like crumbled Kit Kat and I'm not into that.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

I want a very normal cheesecake.

[Ed Gamble]

Normal cheesecake without even any berries or anything. Just like a little berry or a.

[Harris Dickinson]

Little berry compote might be nice.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. But, but that looks delicious. The. I love this, the burnt bass cheesecake thing that's happening.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

I think it's so good.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah. And I didn't, you know, I didn't plan it. I just. We, we were out last night and we had a dim sum and then we, we stumbled across this place and I thought, well, that looks really nice. I'll have a slice. Slice. Had a slice. And then I thought I'd bring you guys a full go at it.

[Ed Gamble]

Thank you so much.

[James Acaster]

That's very thoughtful.

[Harris Dickinson]

That's all right. That's the least I can do, isn't it? Really?

[James Acaster]

This is cheesecake. I just remembered some food questions I meant to ask you and I'd forgotten to ask you. I'll be annoyed if I don't ask you them. That food in triangular sadness that everyone pukes because they eat it.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

You eat any of that?

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Or the Aspect jelly stuff.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah. It was oysters as well, wasn't it? It was like, it was full on fine dying and stuff. Yeah. He said to me, the director, he said, how many, how many of these oysters can you eat? I said, maybe, maybe 10. And after four. They were so big. Yeah, huge. I said, I can't do any more. I don't know why. Also, I don't know why I needed to eat real ones that many times. Like you can't even tell you're not doing a close up on them. You're sort of behind me. Why am I eating? Why am I necking? 10 oysters. So a lot of it was real. A lot of it was like jelly stuff. Stuff. Yeah.

[James Acaster]

It's an amazing scene because it is so gross. And before everyone is sick, you kind of already are feeling sick watching it because of the shit moving the way the. But the food still looks really fancy and high end, like it's supposed to.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Like it's this fancy place, but you already are feeling like, I'm going to fucking puke. Like, all of this. There's so much food. It's so gross. It's all wobbling. The ship's going all over the place. Woody Harrelson is wigging out. Out. It's like mad. And then, like, when everyone pukes. This is the best.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

I love everyone puking in that film.

[Ed Gamble]

The lady sliding up and down in the toilet.

[Harris Dickinson]

Some people hated that. Like, I just remember people coming out of can and being like, no, it's disgusting.

[James Acaster]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

I really weren't able to watch it.

[Ed Gamble]

But that is also. You have to back those people and agree with them. It's disgusting.

[Harris Dickinson]

It's disgusting. The point, if you've got a phobia. Sick. It's not the one, is it?

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

No. Yeah.

[James Acaster]

That's why.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. Yeah, she does.

[Harris Dickinson]

So does mine.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

How did she feel watching it?

[Harris Dickinson]

She covered her. Yeah, yeah. She wouldn't.

[Ed Gamble]

It's a long scene as well.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah. Yeah. If there's someone on the train that looks like they might.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

A little bit drunk. She moves multiple carriages.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. My wife's exactly the same.

[Harris Dickinson]

Immediately. No, like, first hint of it, she's like, nope. Isn't that funny?

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

I don't mind it. I would happily have no problem.

[James Acaster]

I'd hope so.

[Ed Gamble]

You know, I find it funny.

[Harris Dickinson]

I'm painting myself as a bit of a vigilante here. But, I mean, I wouldn't be. I wouldn't. I don't mind being around it.

[Ed Gamble]

That's grubby Batman, man.

[James Acaster]

On the floor under the sick.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. Helping people who are being sick.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Line your head up with someone's being.

[Ed Gamble]

Mugged and going, I don't do that.

[Harris Dickinson]

Only sick. Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Only sick of Batman calling it sick as well.

[Ed Gamble]

I only do.

[James Acaster]

He was sick.

[Harris Dickinson]

You got the wrong guy.

[Ed Gamble]

And he. But he's always sick when other people are sick, but he always has to help them.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

That's why he's got a gravelly voice, because he's sick all the time.

[James Acaster]

Bat sick. Here comes the bat stick. Okay, clean your sick up now. Leave that alone. It's bat sick.

[Ed Gamble]

Batman and vomin.

[James Acaster]

Vomit.

[Ed Gamble]

Vomin.

[James Acaster]

He was still calling vomit. Actually, I think it still scans. A rapper would be out of rhyme, Robin, with vomit. Well, okay, so I think it was.

[Ed Gamble]

I'm not a rapper. I've said it before, and I'll say it again.

[James Acaster]

That cheesecake was delicious. I'm glad that that's your dessert.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes. James is now going to rush through the rest of the episode so he can eat more cheesecake. I can feel it.

[James Acaster]

Well, that's the episode. We're at the end.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

I do have one more question, though.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Because we're at the end of the thing. Maybe the checks come in. Oh, he knows what I'm gonna say.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah. Split the bill.

[James Acaster]

Split the bill. You're split the bill.

[Harris Dickinson]

It depends, doesn't it?

[James Acaster]

Because where do you stand on that stuff? Because you're there doing. Because, like Steve Buscemi says he still gets asked about tipping because of Reservoir Dogs, even though he himself thinks you should always tip. Is Quentin Tarantino, who has the opinion that Mr. Pink has in that. So with you, are you. When it comes to splitting the bill, do you agree with your character?

[Harris Dickinson]

No, I. I think. Think I have been kind of raised in a way that's like, okay, if you've got, you know, if you're doing well and you can afford to treat someone, treat them, and then it kind of goes back in circles. Right. Like, if you can do it once and then you get each other back. I don't know. I feel like that's a better way to be than be like, we're splitting it every time. But some people like doing that. I mean, it's. It's. It's individual, isn't it, to each dynamic. I don't know. I'm happy to do, like, my turn and then your turn, whatever.

[James Acaster]

But then if you've paid, made, and the next one.

[Harris Dickinson]

Are you thinking, no, I don't expect it. I don't expect it. Money comes and goes.

[Ed Gamble]

I always say it all comes out in the wash.

[Harris Dickinson]

Exactly. There you go.

[James Acaster]

More than you've said. It's all because out of the wash, whenever.

[Ed Gamble]

Whenever the bill comes and, you know, if I get the bill, someone else will get the bill. You're like, eventually it all. You know. Yeah, we all. We're all dead eventually. Aren't we as well? Exactly.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

As I pay the bill.

[James Acaster]

Lightens the mood at the end of a minute.

[Harris Dickinson]

The question is, though, is that if you notice that there's. There's always someone that never does. How do you address that?

[Ed Gamble]

Let's just let them get away with.

[Harris Dickinson]

It.

[Ed Gamble]

You know, because I love, I love having a little behind someone's back. So it's good to have a reason.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah. It's important.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, yeah.

[James Acaster]

Just because I never pay them.

[Harris Dickinson]

Where do you stand on it?

[James Acaster]

Oh, I, I, I'd sooner be the one to pay it because I don't care if who else has paid around the table.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

And for ages, I couldn't really, like, I had to split bills of people or couldn't really afford it. So now that I can, I just want to do it every time.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

And I want to steal, steal the bill from everyone and just pay for it, but not if it makes them feel uncomfortable.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[James Acaster]

I just did it once where, like, I met up with some friends that we all started out in stand up together. We hadn't seen each other in ages. Went for some drinks. I was quite drunk by the end. I had to leave earlier than that. Them. So on my way out, I just, like thinking it was a classy move. Just paid for the drinks on my way out.

[Ed Gamble]

That is a classy, that is a classy move. Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Next day we meet up again because it's like, it's a weekend of it, because one of them's in London and this guy goes, you pay for one of the drinks yesterday? I was like, yeah. He went, don't do that again. And I was like, all right. I thought it was nice. It's like, no, no, we can all afford drinks here, so just don't, don't do that, please. Right, fine. We had a lovely time. And then at the end, when the bill came as a joke, I said to the lady, come along, and said, right, here's your bill. And I went, I'm getting this one. And he went, do not get that.

[Harris Dickinson]

And I was like, oh, God, Jesus.

[James Acaster]

I've absolutely, I've absolutely misjudged that joke.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

As if you were like, flexing or something.

[James Acaster]

Yeah. I think it was like Mr. Big Shots coming around.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[James Acaster]

And fair enough. Okay. You got, you got to bear that in mind. You can't be Mr. Big Shit because.

[Ed Gamble]

That'S not, not what you can.

[Harris Dickinson]

And if someone wants to treat everyone, you gotta let them, really. Haven't you, you can't start trying to say, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, I'm covering, you know, it's like, if someone wants to do it, I feel like, let them. It's up to them.

[Ed Gamble]

I like people all the time. I love it when people treat me yeah, it's great.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, it's great.

[Ed Gamble]

I love to be treated.

[Harris Dickinson]

We went to. I went to a restaurant last year. I remember it was like, kind of group of people I didn't really know very well. So I didn't. I didn't want to buy them all dinner. It was like, I'm gonna go and pay for myselves. And I was on the way. I was like, I'm gonna go get up and pay for myself. And I could tell it was that vibe we got. Like, one dish each. Didn't drink, like, I'm just gonna go and pay for my burger, whatever. And I'm like, right, guys, I'll see you later. Bosh. Pay. On the way out, I get texts from someone who was there, and they said, man, thank you so much for paying for everyone's food. And I said, I didn't. I don't know why you thought that. And then they said, well, the bill was covered by someone. So someone along the. I don't know who. No one in our group paid for it. Unless I got someone must. But I checked.

[Ed Gamble]

Someone must have paid for it.

[Harris Dickinson]

No, there was five of us. No one paid. I was the only one that paid for my. So I was actually annoyed that I had to pay because they all got it for free. And I just paid for one dish. And the waiter said, it's been covered.

[James Acaster]

It was the bald man.

[Ed Gamble]

The thing is, you should have looked down.

[James Acaster]

You were all like, it's great that you got the metal things on the bottom of the seats. We could all rest our feet on this. He's there.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[James Acaster]

Loving it. Going, the meal's on me, guys.

[Harris Dickinson]

This one's on me.

[Ed Gamble]

See a hand reach up around the bar with a car just to do the tap.

[James Acaster]

Goes back under again. Read your menu back to you now. See how you feel about it. You would like San Pellegrino. Of course you would. You'd like Guinness bread with lots of whipped butter from Cafe Sicilia. Starter. You want bread, honey roast, ham, marmalade and warm butter from White's main course. You would like the short rib ragu with sausage. Hello, Your dad with pappardelle pizza. Pappardelle pasta.

[Ed Gamble]

Oh, my God, I'm so sorry.

[James Acaster]

Pasta. I was so focused on saying this.

[Ed Gamble]

Guy'S insane side dish bolognese, and you're like, oh, it must be with a pizza. A pappardelli pizz.

[James Acaster]

It says.

[Ed Gamble]

I know you didn't write pizza bonita.

[James Acaster]

It says pasta here. I don't know why I Said you.

[Harris Dickinson]

Really lost your way.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Really?

[Ed Gamble]

You host a food podcast.

[James Acaster]

Yeah. Who knows how?

[Harris Dickinson]

It's a fair mistake.

[James Acaster]

I had a really good chat.

[Ed Gamble]

Mistake.

[Harris Dickinson]

It's a family.

[Ed Gamble]

You're being very generous, Harris. You don't need to.

[James Acaster]

I confuse pasta for pizza, Harris. Let me feel the shame and take it all the way home. You would like Caesar salad, no anchovies on the top, but you haven't mixed it in with a jar of gherkins throughout the whole meal that you can pick on. Drink you would like.

[Ed Gamble]

You know what gherkins are? Just double check cake. You think it's cake or something?

[James Acaster]

I wish. I'd love it if they pickled cake. Drake, you would like a cup of tea with one sugar? You like a whiskey sour from a bar that we will not say its name in New York. And dessert, like a Basque cheesecake. It can be from anywhere, but we've got one here from Sakurado on Shaftesbury Avenue.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes.

[Harris Dickinson]

Beautiful.

[James Acaster]

How do you feel about that?

[Harris Dickinson]

That sounds good.

[James Acaster]

It feels quite good, right with that.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, that sounds really good.

[Harris Dickinson]

Sounds very.

[James Acaster]

That's a nice meal.

[Ed Gamble]

I love the cup of tea and the whiskey sourers. You're going back and forth, back, back.

[Harris Dickinson]

And forth, I think. Yeah, yeah.

[James Acaster]

If you had that on the ship and it started to sink, probably be all right. You're keeping it down. You're all right.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, yeah, I think so. It's the kind of substantial food that doesn't unsettle. What do you reckon?

[Ed Gamble]

Depends how much cheesecake you have. I think. I think if I ate a whole cheesecake and then a ship started to get rocky.

[James Acaster]

It's good on Iron Claw. You actually eat loads of breakfast.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, yeah. I actually eat a lot on that.

[James Acaster]

Because you were eating like you were stealing off other people's plates.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, I was. Yeah.

[James Acaster]

You're going for it.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah, that. That character was. He was like, in real life, he was the most. He wasn't ripped at all, really. He was just like a big, burly bloke.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

The rest were like, you know, bodybuilding, looking mega ripped.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

And so I just got to enjoy my food. It was great.

[James Acaster]

Paul.

[Harris Dickinson]

Zac Efron was there. There, you know, controlling calories. I was just shoving it down. It was brilliant.

[James Acaster]

Bad luck. Everyone, if you're listening, thank you, Harris, for coming to the dream restaurant.

[Ed Gamble]

Thank you, Harris.

[Harris Dickinson]

Thank you so much for having me.

[Ed Gamble]

Thank you so much to Harris for coming on and sorry for roasting the hell out of you.

[James Acaster]

I can't believe it. This is how old we are his guests now are going to see us do standup before they become famous, when they're.

[Ed Gamble]

When they're growing up, when they're working in a hotel.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's. That's it now. This is going to happen a lot more.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

And God knows I've torn into a few audience members.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

In much nastier ways or in less deserved ways than you've done.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

Without Jamie Dodger chat, we could have.

[Ed Gamble]

A megastar, a global megastar, sit down and go, james, you said that my life wasn't worth living.

[James Acaster]

Yeah. James, you said that I should have just stayed at home and put my head in a blender instead of come to the gig because I was such a audience member. But I didn't laugh at your jokes.

[Ed Gamble]

And now I have an Oscar.

[James Acaster]

Yeah. I just came here to tell you all that.

[Ed Gamble]

Thank you. Yeah. Goodbye.

[James Acaster]

Goodbye. Leaving the Oscar on the table goes home. Yeah. Well, that might happen, but for you, it was the Jammy Dodger chat. And I think.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes.

[James Acaster]

It seemed to be a nice memory.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[Harris Dickinson]

That was.

[Ed Gamble]

That was good. I'm glad it was a nice memory. Not many things that are more terrifying than someone saying, oh, you spoke to me at a gig once and that after that, and it felt like a thousand years.

[James Acaster]

Sure. You go, oh, no. Was this. When I went redhead, I went completely into a blind rage and talked to an audience member. Harris did not say Baby Bell, of course.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes.

[James Acaster]

So that's good.

[Ed Gamble]

He said Baby Girl and Baby Gem.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, sure. So we got close. Yeah. He sang a song about Baby Jem. Yeah. And if he had even dared to put a lyric about Baby Bell in there, we would have been forced.

[Harris Dickinson]

Yeah.

[Ed Gamble]

To remove it.

[James Acaster]

Drill down into that.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah. Go and see Baby Girl. I've not seen it yet. As I make clear.

[James Acaster]

It's very good film. Yeah. Even for a prude like you, Ed, I think you would enjoy it.

[Ed Gamble]

It sounds. It sounds filthy.

[James Acaster]

It is filthy. Yeah. But, you know, thought provoking and I think it's very considered and it's not. It's not gratuitous.

[Ed Gamble]

Excellent.

[James Acaster]

And also, I'm very excited about that film that Harris mentioned that he made recently.

[Ed Gamble]

Yes.

[James Acaster]

His own film is directorial debut.

[Ed Gamble]

Very exciting.

[James Acaster]

Look out for that when it comes out.

[Ed Gamble]

The one about the northern man in the steak restaurant.

[James Acaster]

Yeah. I don't think a whole film is about someone complaining about their steak, even though.

[Ed Gamble]

We'll see.

[James Acaster]

I know. If you wrote a film.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah.

[James Acaster]

That's what it would be about.

[Ed Gamble]

What, my stick.

[James Acaster]

Yeah, you would. You would write it that someone's complaining about the steak and you probably would make them northern.

[Ed Gamble]

Yeah, it'd be good, though. My film?

[James Acaster]

Yeah. Oh, listen, Ed, no one's saying it wouldn't be good.

[Harris Dickinson]

You.

[James Acaster]

It'd be a very good film. But that's not what Harris's film is about. I. I think that's just one scene.

[Ed Gamble]

Okay, we'll see. Thank you so much to Harris for coming on off menu. We will see you next week with another fantastic restaurant guest.

[James Acaster]

Goodbye.

[Ed Gamble]

Bye.

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