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Ed Gamble
Welcome to the Off Menu podcast.
James Acaster
Bonus Bonus.
Ed Gamble
It's a bonus live episode, James, from
James Acaster
the Royal Albert Hall.
Ed Gamble
The Royal Albert Hall 14th of March Evening Show.
James Acaster
Evening show. We'd already done a matinee, but you wouldn't know it with the amount of energy that we bring to this episode.
Ed Gamble
Plucky boys, wide eyed and bushy tailed.
James Acaster
And our guest is Kyle Smith Byno, obviously returning.
Ed Gamble
Kyle Smith Byno. This is a tasting menu. We gave him the menu of another previous fan favorite guest.
James Acaster
Yes.
Ed Gamble
Talked him through those choices. But this one, this one got away from us.
James Acaster
James.
Ed Gamble
It went off in many different directions.
James Acaster
It did. There might be some stuff we refer to that happened in the first half, although there's a lot happening in the second half that might equally make no sense. I mean, it's worth telling you as a listener that Kyle does come on dressed as a chef.
Ed Gamble
Yes.
James Acaster
And yeah, you should know that Chef
Ed Gamble
White's come stressed as one of his famous characters.
James Acaster
Yes. It's a character.
Ed Gamble
And also we make reference to singing a song at the end of the show. We did sing, we did karaoke at the end of the show. We can't put that on the episode for multiple reasons. Song rights and also quality. It was I'd say one of the worst closings to a show the Royal Alcohol has ever seen.
James Acaster
Yeah. This show was really fun and went really well. The ending was neither of those things. And you are not missing out.
Ed Gamble
No, don't worry about missing out.
James Acaster
Yeah, it was bad. It was a really in terms of like shows that I've done in my life and I include standup in this. I'd say it's the most kind of like the show was brilliant and then the end was one of the worst things I've ever done.
Ed Gamble
It should have been good.
James Acaster
Yeah, it should have been good.
Ed Gamble
It was a good idea. Yes. But we didn't quite pull it off. So don't worry, it's not on here. But you didn't miss it. You didn't miss anything.
James Acaster
You didn't miss anything. I mean, what else to tell you? I guess just, just to have fun, enjoy yourself, relax.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
Listen to the podcast, I guess.
Ed Gamble
Kick back, enjoy.
James Acaster
Kick back and enjoy.
Ed Gamble
This is the off many tasting menu
James Acaster
of Kyle Smith Bino.
Ed Gamble
Kyle Smith bonus.
Kyle Smith Byno
Oh, yeah,
Ed Gamble
We're very excited because now we are going to do a tasting menu of the off menu podcast.
James Acaster
Kick us off. Kick us off. Ed Gamble, like only you can.
Ed Gamble
Welcome to the off menu podcast. Taking the chocolate of conversation, putting it delicately into the mouth of humor and only then realizing it was the cat shit of podcasting. This is a tasting menu episode where we invite back an old fan favorite guest and give them another menu from another fan favorite guest. And we are very excited that tonight's guest is Kyle Smith Mino.
James Acaster
Welcome him to the stage.
Ed Gamble
Let's get him on straight away. Hit the music.
James Acaster
Bring him on. Well, he didn't tell us he was doing this.
Ed Gamble
Hello. So striking. Such a handsome chef.
Kyle Smith Byno
This hat is tight.
Ed Gamble
Well, let's pop you down in a chair, shall we? Chef Kyel, welcome.
James Acaster
Where, where did you get the outfit from?
Kyle Smith Byno
K. I asked my friend if I could borrow it eight years ago and he said yes. And it's been in a bag on the back of my door for exactly eight years. Then I took it to get pressed and they said it can't be done. It's been creased for so long. So paid double, got it pressed. They said they can't do the hat. They haven't got enough time, I guess.
James Acaster
What did you originally ask to buy?
Ed Gamble
Yeah, question.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yes, right, Sure. I, when I was, whatever eight years ago was, I created a character called Miles White who is going to be a TV chef. And I was like, wouldn't it be fun to do a character that will live and die and then you never think about it again? So I was going to play, I was going to do a character for one year and I was going to do videos and stuff and then he was going to die and then that would have been the end of it. Never did it.
Ed Gamble
Can you, how far did you get with the character? Can you tell us anything about Miles White?
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah, it was quite a lot of character development. He was Australian. He was, he didn't know he was black. That was his thing. I spent quite a lot of time looking up wigs and I found a really good Richard Branson wig that I was gonna get for the character and was gonna cast his wife and children. The children would have been white. That would have been funny.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Kyle Smith Byno
And
James Acaster
so a full family has spoken about this before. So when he dies, there's a whole family and, like, wife and kids that he's leaving behind. So it's quite sad at the end.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah, yeah.
Ed Gamble
Can you give us a quick blast of the voice? We need to start the podcast officially, but just before we do, I'd love to hear a little bit from Miles White.
James Acaster
And this won't be the last we hear from him tonight either. There's no way we're not teeing you up for this on multiple occasions.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah, I guess there's gonna be quite a lot of. Ah, shit, it's burnt.
Ed Gamble
Oh. So he's a bad chef.
Kyle Smith Byno
He was forgetful.
Ed Gamble
It's a really important character detail of Miles White. Very forgetful.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah, it was quite forgetful.
James Acaster
So is Miles White not aware that he's black, or has Miles White forgot that he's black?
Kyle Smith Byno
It's just never mentioned.
James Acaster
Yeah, but his.
Kyle Smith Byno
His. His wife. His wife would be Caucasian, and as a result, so would the children. And he would never reference the fact that his children couldn't possibly be his.
Ed Gamble
Yes. But he'd probably go, hang on a second, you can't be my kids. And then he'd forget the day after.
James Acaster
Right?
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ed Gamble
Why didn't you.
Kyle Smith Byno
Maybe I will bring him back.
James Acaster
Yeah, I think you should do. You've got the outfit. It looks good on you. Yeah, thank you. It looks really cool. And you should be Miles White and, like, start it and everyone here would know, you know, the full. Where it's headed, that he's gonna die.
Kyle Smith Byno
I've honestly never spoken about it before, so doing it in front of this many people is insane.
Ed Gamble
When you put the outfit on, you must have thought it might come up.
Kyle Smith Byno
Oh, yeah. I thought I could distract you with other stuff, but I guess not.
Ed Gamble
James, speaking of characters.
James Acaster
Oh, sorry.
Ed Gamble
I play a genie in this podcast.
James Acaster
Got to do my proper entrance, Kyle.
Ed Gamble
Now, Kyle, obviously James is a genie. He's going to be coming out of the lamp. A lot of people are confused now because they're thinking, where's James gone? Apart from the people sat over here?
Kyle Smith Byno
Right. Because they can see him.
Ed Gamble
They can see him.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ed Gamble
If you could possibly rub the lamp for us to get. To get James out of the lamp, that would be great.
Kyle Smith Byno
And then the podcast has started.
Ed Gamble
And then the podcast started. When you've got the genie out of the lamp, that'd be great. Thank you, Robert.
James Acaster
And so as the character who's saying that.
Ed Gamble
How would Miles White rub the lamp?
Kyle Smith Byno
Can I say that I've had loads to drink?
Ed Gamble
You can. We didn't. We saw Kyle when he arrived. We did a sound check this afternoon, and then we had a bit of a chat in the dressing room. And I'd say about 10 minutes before the first half started, Kyle went, yeah, well, I guess I'll just see you on stage. We're like, I don't need to just see us on stage. We thought maybe he's got some work to do. Turns out he's been drinking tequila and apple juice.
Kyle Smith Byno
I will have to go to the toilet at some point during.
Ed Gamble
Well, the quicker you rub the lamp, the less weasy I have to do.
James Acaster
Yeah, I'm doing squats back here, man. Come on.
Kyle Smith Byno
Any part in particular or just.
Ed Gamble
Well, there's a funnier way and there's a less funny way. Yay. Welcome, Miles White, sugar drink restaurant.
James Acaster
We've been expecting you much of time.
Ed Gamble
Sit you down, Jeannie. Thank you. Welcome, Jeannie.
James Acaster
Nice to welcome Miles White.
Kyle Smith Byno
I can't be Miles White now because I don't have the wig.
Ed Gamble
Oh, it's all about the wig, is it?
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah, it is mainly in the. In the hair. That is the.
Ed Gamble
But you never bought the wig.
Kyle Smith Byno
I never bought the wig, but I googled it loads.
James Acaster
Look, we're gonna give you another guest's menu tonight. So it's not gonna be your dream menu. It's gonna be another guest dream.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah, I was sort of worried about that.
James Acaster
Why?
Kyle Smith Byno
Because I don't like a lot of stuff. Well, I like, you know, he likes what he likes, but I feel like a lot of my responses will be. That's man. Yeah, yeah. Although, sorry, before we start quickly, I just have a few things that I wanted to chat to you guys about, please.
Ed Gamble
If it's about how this was a chef character, we know that already. Right.
James Acaster
Just. Just to be clear, you've already told us about Miles White.
Kyle Smith Byno
Oh, yeah, I know that. You know, it's just a couple of things. I haven't seen you boys in a while.
Ed Gamble
No, been a while.
Kyle Smith Byno
I wrote it down.
Ed Gamble
Okay.
Kyle Smith Byno
What's your problem with Pizza Hut?
Ed Gamble
With Pizza Hut?
James Acaster
Yeah. I don't.
Ed Gamble
I think I've been quite complimentary about Pizza Hut over the years because I like the sort of golden, almost fried taste of the base of the pizzas. I'm a big fan of that. What have we said about Pizza Hut in the past that's upset you?
Kyle Smith Byno
So I did this podcast in 2022 yeah, it came out in 2023.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, sorry about that.
Kyle Smith Byno
Every week. Oh, it'll be me. It'll be me this time. And then off that, I got offered. Offered? Is that the right word?
Ed Gamble
Okay.
James Acaster
Depends what the next word is.
Kyle Smith Byno
I got offered the part of a pasta puppet in Dolmio adverts.
Ed Gamble
Oh, that's a dream role.
Kyle Smith Byno
So me and John Kearns play pasta puppets.
James Acaster
What?
Sponsor/Ad Voice
Hang on.
Ed Gamble
When did this happen?
Kyle Smith Byno
This, like, end of 2023, maybe.
James Acaster
And you did it? Yeah. Kearns has never mentioned this?
Ed Gamble
No.
James Acaster
You and Kearns are the Dolmeo puppets.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah. No, not the Italian ones.
Ed Gamble
You can do it. You can do all the different accents.
Kyle Smith Byno
We found out tonight there were, like, new. New ones. And has anyone seen that advert? There's like, one messy one and there's one, like, in a. Nobody. How can nobody have seen it?
Ed Gamble
How much have you had to drink, Kyle?
Kyle Smith Byno
It was. I'm like a messy spaghetti pasta puppet. And then John Kearns is like a. What's the penne? Penne?
Ed Gamble
Oh, you're literally made of pasta. You're not Dolio family members who just love pasta.
Kyle Smith Byno
That's. You can't do that.
James Acaster
Oh, so that's what they were trying to correct.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah.
James Acaster
So we can't do that Italian family anymore. Yeah, they're stereotypes. So we want you two to be talking. Talking pasta. Yeah.
Kyle Smith Byno
And he's got a. He's got a bow that's made out of. What's the bow?
Ed Gamble
One Farfalay.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yes, please. And he's got a bow and he's, like, sort of straight laced. And he's like, oh, no, you can't do that. And then I'm like, oh, yeah, do what you want. And it's. It is exactly like that. And that was off. Off menu. That was. We got that because of off menu. Well, I did. That's what they told me. And then I said it feels like
Ed Gamble
they want to cast two people to play puppets from off menu. We already know. We already know what pasta shapes would be. Someone asked us last night.
Kyle Smith Byno
Oh, what's the answer?
James Acaster
They made me the one that's all. The frilly one.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. Fusely, because he's all twisty and you're quick with us.
Kyle Smith Byno
You're quick with those pasta shapes.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll do a food podcast, man. I've learned the pasta shapes.
Kyle Smith Byno
Right.
James Acaster
And I know how to say jam on.
Ed Gamble
And I'd be orecchiette, because they're the little ears and I've got little ears.
Kyle Smith Byno
Little ears.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. That's orecchiette is the ones that are like. They look like little shells, but it literally means small ears because they look like little ears.
Kyle Smith Byno
What's he talking about?
James Acaster
I don't always know, but he's a great guy. He's very supportive.
Ed Gamble
My favorite pasta shape because I'm a metalhead is strozza pretti, which is a strangled priest. That means that's fucking sick, isn't it?
James Acaster
That is cool.
Kyle Smith Byno
It's demonic.
James Acaster
Yeah, it's pretty demonic. But that's cool if you're a metalhead.
Kyle Smith Byno
Like, I like a campanelli.
Ed Gamble
Oh, yeah. What's that one?
Kyle Smith Byno
No, I did. I go to Vapiano's. I say, I want a campanelli, please.
James Acaster
Domio. Staying away from that character, I imagine.
Kyle Smith Byno
But we got that because of do. Sorry, how does this relate to Pizza Hut?
James Acaster
Just so you're aware, if you're not aware of this, to this date, Kyle holds the record for the longest episode we've ever recorded. So.
Ed Gamble
And I'm beginning to get that muscle memory back. I think I remember why some of
James Acaster
you might want to text your babysitters now.
Kyle Smith Byno
That was true. And then that got beaten and I text ed about it because I was fucking livid.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Kyle Smith Byno
Ross Noble.
Ed Gamble
Oh, yeah.
Kyle Smith Byno
Overtook me. But I still have some records on this podcast. I believe I'm still the only person to shout out a place negatively
Ed Gamble
that's been left in the edit. Sure.
Kyle Smith Byno
And still the only one to drink on the podcast.
James Acaster
Yeah, Yeah, I know.
Ed Gamble
You're right.
Kyle Smith Byno
Speaking of.
Dani Pellegrino
Shall we?
Ed Gamble
Hang on.
James Acaster
I didn't even see that when I was behind the lamp.
Ed Gamble
Where's that come.
Kyle Smith Byno
What the.
James Acaster
Did you see that? You must have seen it from your seat.
Ed Gamble
No, I'm genuinely surprised because. Also, did you bring this with you or did they buy it? Did they buy it?
Kyle Smith Byno
I brought it.
Ed Gamble
You brought it?
Kyle Smith Byno
I brought it from home.
Ed Gamble
Is that true?
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
This is good shit, man. I love Eagle rare.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah.
Sponsor/Ad Voice
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
It's one of my favorite bourbons.
Kyle Smith Byno
I got this. What did you ask me? What was the question?
Ed Gamble
You. You were telling us something.
Sponsor/Ad Voice
You were telling us something.
Ed Gamble
You were saying about drunk on the podcast. You got the booze out and then you said. What was the question?
Kyle Smith Byno
I did a play in 2016.
Ed Gamble
Okay, this doesn't feel relevant, but carry on.
Kyle Smith Byno
And I didn't really know anything about drinked, like, properly. I would just drink.
Ed Gamble
You poured in that one already.
James Acaster
You keep making ones bigger and then leveling them all out. That's ridiculous, Kyle.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, they feel level to me.
Kyle Smith Byno
And the director was a whiskey guy and he was like, you've got to get the eagle rare. So I got this in 2016.
Ed Gamble
Wow, nice.
Kyle Smith Byno
And it was already aged 10 years. I was 20.
Ed Gamble
I've already got into bourbon recently. Tell me if you think this is a cool thing to do.
Kyle Smith Byno
I don't know if we have any ice or any.
Ed Gamble
Oh, don't worry about it. Let's have an eat.
Kyle Smith Byno
Cheers, lads.
Ed Gamble
Oh, cheers. Cheers.
James Acaster
Thank you for coming. Thank you. Cheers everybody.
Ed Gamble
I've started watching bourbon youtubers who mainly men from the deep south of America and they do one hour long videos where they go to different liquor stores and film what's on the shelves.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
And I will watch those every night.
Kyle Smith Byno
Send me the link.
Sponsor/Ad Voice
I will.
Kyle Smith Byno
That is nice now.
James Acaster
That's really nice.
Ed Gamble
It's really lovely.
Kyle Smith Byno
It is nice. So Peter, you I then can I
Ed Gamble
say you're not the only guest to drink on the podcast now. You're the only guest to do an evening record, if that helps.
Kyle Smith Byno
Right.
Ed Gamble
You're the only one. I've done an evening record. But Finn Wolfhard had had a Guinness.
Kyle Smith Byno
Well, that little kid.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Kyle Smith Byno
Is he even allowed to drink? How old is he?
James Acaster
He's 23 now, but he's probably 21 when he has 23. It was.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, it was 14. It was Stranger Things series one.
James Acaster
We interviewed him, he went straight to the Upside down as soon as he said that.
Kyle Smith Byno
Well, I messaged him and I said we got this job because of off menu so I'd want to celebrate and I want to take you guys to pizza.
James Acaster
Oh yeah.
Kyle Smith Byno
And Ed immediately said, no fucking way. And he said he doesn't want it. He doesn't want to go to pizza. So now three years later, I'm asking you, what's the problem with pizza?
Ed Gamble
I think maybe I was taken back that your immediate go to for a celebration and a thank you for getting you. I'd imagine a very highly paid advertising job was to take me to the cheapest restaurant in Britain.
James Acaster
It would have been nice to receive the invite. I know it seems like he's the boss, not his work for the podcast.
Kyle Smith Byno
But this was before I had your number.
James Acaster
Oh, okay. And you didn't know anyone you could ask via.
Kyle Smith Byno
But since I've had your number. Look at all the fun we've had. You accidentally set my picture as your profile picture. Remember that?
James Acaster
Yeah, I did. I was trying. Kyle texted me, said, how's it going? I was like, who is this? They sent a photo of him like on the beach with a Cocktail. So I was like, right, I'm gonna save that as Kyle's contact picture. And accidentally saved it as my contact picture.
Ed Gamble
You old fucking man.
James Acaster
So old. And I had to tell Kyle, oh, no.
Kyle Smith Byno
How am I gonna miss.
James Acaster
I've done this by mistakes. People are texting me about it. I think I'll just text it back going, keep as is question mark. I think I've got to. So I did for quite a while. There was a few like that.
Kyle Smith Byno
I liked it. I don't know why I changed it back. Oh, sorry. There's a few other. I'll get through this pretty quickly.
Sponsor/Ad Voice
So.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, sorry. I know. I would love to write that wrong and go to Peter with you in the future.
Kyle Smith Byno
Great.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Kyle Smith Byno
James, you come in.
James Acaster
Yeah, I'd love it.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah, fantastic. And we've got witnesses, so it has to happen. Yeah, We've spoken about the longest episode thing. Krispy Kreme chat. We'll avoid that. January. What does Jan3 mean?
Ed Gamble
Jan3?
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
You're asking me what something that you've written down means?
Kyle Smith Byno
Big time.
Ed Gamble
January 3rd, I'd imagine it's gotta be January 1st. It's gotta be January 3rd.
James Acaster
Not just a third woman you've met called Jan.
Kyle Smith Byno
Ed and I and two other people. That's not how you say.
James Acaster
Okay, here we go. Can't wait to hear about something else I wasn't invited to.
Ed Gamble
I've just remembered what it was and you are about to hear about that. Yeah.
Kyle Smith Byno
No, you were invited, I think. Unavailable again. I'll get to that. The dinner that we went for.
Ed Gamble
Yes. On January 3rd.
Kyle Smith Byno
On January 3rd.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Kyle Smith Byno
Meet you, Phil Wang, Alex Horn.
Ed Gamble
Yes.
James Acaster
Sounds fun. Sounds like a fun night out. We.
Kyle Smith Byno
We had a great time. We said we should do this more often.
Ed Gamble
Yes.
Kyle Smith Byno
That was January 3, 2025. That was the last time we did that.
Ed Gamble
You're very much the only one trying to keep that WhatsApp group going.
Kyle Smith Byno
I'm really trying.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah. Quite hard.
Ed Gamble
You're not getting anything out of Horn now and again I reply, yeah, and Wang's dead to the world on that group.
Kyle Smith Byno
So how do we. James, how do we revive that?
James Acaster
Oh, it's up to me to get that gang going again?
Kyle Smith Byno
I think so.
James Acaster
The guy didn't even make the draft the first time. You want me to get Ed Wang and Horn, who doesn't reply to anything unless it's a response to me saying that I will do something for him as a favor. I can't help you here, brother.
Kyle Smith Byno
Okay.
Ed Gamble
We should definitely do that again, though. That was nice.
Kyle Smith Byno
Well, that's what I've been saying in the group.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. What I would say is the thing you like to eat very late.
Kyle Smith Byno
True.
Ed Gamble
Because we got a booking for 9pm for a table on January 3rd and everyone else was like, fucking hell, 9pm that's the only table we could get. And you genuinely said, that's a bit early for me.
Kyle Smith Byno
I just like to chase the night, boys.
James Acaster
Well, I'm sorry that everyone on the Jan3 group is ghosting you. Maybe add Charlotte Richie to the group should talk to him for you. Yeah.
Kyle Smith Byno
Okay. Quickly. Look, we haven't got much time. Last thing on this,
James Acaster
20 minutes in. Haven't revealed who the guest is yet whose menu you're gonna have. 20 minutes in.
Kyle Smith Byno
When?
James Acaster
A third of the way through. Normally this is.
Kyle Smith Byno
When are either of you gonna do my improv show?
James Acaster
You've asked me to do that show four or five times now. The answer's been no. Every time. When are you gonna take the hit? Absolutely don't want to do that.
Kyle Smith Byno
Come on, James. It's good.
James Acaster
Well, look, I. I will do it if you do it as Miles White all night. If you ain't character as Miles White for the whole evening, I will do your improv show.
Kyle Smith Byno
That could not work.
James Acaster
Well, bad luck.
Kyle Smith Byno
No, go on. What about next Saturday?
James Acaster
Next Saturday?
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Hang on.
James Acaster
Yeah, I'll check my diary.
Ed Gamble
Hang on, Kyle, I'm doing it next Saturday. Don't fucking try and oust me right now.
Kyle Smith Byno
Genuinely. Is tickets still available? No, it sold out. Well, that's. Look, that's the end of my stuff. That was my list. Now what's this podcast about?
Dani Pellegrino
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James Acaster
Now he's dribbling the ball with everything on the line. He's driving down the pitch. He's facing price hikes and cuts past him. Carrier contracts tries to block him. Oh, he leaves him in the dust. He's at the edge of the box. He cuts past the the non stop group chat trash talk. He clears on goal. He shoots no unlimited data for $25 a month. Forever. Visit your local Boost Mobile store today to get unlimited data with a price that never changes. Boost mobile after 30gb, customers may experience lower speeds. Customers will pay $25 a month as long as they remain active on the Boost $25 Unlimited plan. We're going to give you the menu of another guest of past guest. Is there anyone in particular that you're hoping for who's a menu you think you might enjoy?
Kyle Smith Byno
Bridget Christie.
James Acaster
Oh, that would be nice, wouldn't it? Yeah, well, it's Bob Mortimer.
Kyle Smith Byno
Nice picture. Lovely picture.
Ed Gamble
We never know what photo Benito has chosen, but it's another absolute pearler. That is fantastic.
James Acaster
What a cute little cat.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
And the kitten on his shoulder. Yeah. Bob Mortimer. How do you feel about that? You excited about Bob Mortimer's menu?
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah, I really like him. I've never met him. I think he's hilarious. I don't know what he eats.
Ed Gamble
We should invite him to the next January meet up.
Kyle Smith Byno
Oh, shit. Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Kyle Smith Byno
Well, it depends. Let's see how this goes.
James Acaster
Now for your water course, when you came on in 2022, but didn't get released for 2023, you had still water. Bob Mortimer has chose for his dream watercourse.
Kyle Smith Byno
Don't.
James Acaster
Also still.
Dani Pellegrino
Yes.
James Acaster
So that's gotta feel good. We're off to a good start where you and Bob are both having still water together.
Kyle Smith Byno
We've got something in common.
James Acaster
Yeah, you could have a. Well, what would you chat to Bob about over the watercourse?
Kyle Smith Byno
Don't you hate sparkling?
Ed Gamble
Yeah, that's what all the still guys chat about, isn't it? They really slag off sparkling.
Kyle Smith Byno
I. I think there's fucking shite. Any good?
Ed Gamble
Another accent? You've got another character on your hands here. Who would be your. Who would be your character from the northeast of England? We can try and get a new character for you now, Alan. Is his surname Shearer by any chance?
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah, I see what's happened in my subconscious.
James Acaster
You chose Hard O bread.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yes.
James Acaster
Remember that?
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah. And I bet he's done exactly the same.
James Acaster
Bob Mortimer's dream bread is lukewarm crusts with olive oil and butter.
Kyle Smith Byno
Lukewarm crusts?
James Acaster
Yeah. Yeah. Just exactly what it sounds like.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Kyle Smith Byno
Crusts of what?
James Acaster
Okay, I'm gonna go ahead and say bread.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah, but what like what? White bread? Toast?
James Acaster
Well, I mean, I guess because he's not specified, we could do lukewarm hardo bread crusts?
Kyle Smith Byno
Yes, please.
James Acaster
With what?
Kyle Smith Byno
Butter and.
James Acaster
With olive oil and butter.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah. Good choices, man.
James Acaster
You like this already?
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah, I'm into this.
James Acaster
You just get the crust there.
Kyle Smith Byno
Lukewarm.
James Acaster
I'm guessing what. What Bob would have liked is like just like normal sliced bread from the shop. Like white bread, like that kind of standard. And then just the crusts.
Ed Gamble
Because I don't think.
James Acaster
I don't think he's going or anything.
Ed Gamble
He wants the crust. He only wants the crusty bits to dip and lukewarm to dip in.
Kyle Smith Byno
What does lukewarm mean?
Ed Gamble
Good question. Okay.
Kyle Smith Byno
Because I'm getting to this. Like, room temp.
James Acaster
No, what's. That's room temp.
Kyle Smith Byno
Right.
Ed Gamble
But what.
Kyle Smith Byno
How. How far is lukewarm off room temp?
James Acaster
I think warm is definitely warmer. Yeah, but not. It's not warm.
Ed Gamble
It's not. It's not hot.
James Acaster
It's not hot.
Kyle Smith Byno
I think lukewarm is subjective.
Ed Gamble
Okay.
James Acaster
I don't think it is. I think
Ed Gamble
lukewarm. It's like any temperature descriptor is subjective. Right. Because some people will have a very hot cup of tea and they'll be like, that's perfect. And someone else will say, that's. That's hot. That's too hot.
Kyle Smith Byno
Science.
Ed Gamble
It is the opposite of science is what I'm saying. It's purely science. Religion. How warm you think things are? Our religion. Lukewarm would also be a great new character for you.
Kyle Smith Byno
Lukewarm.
James Acaster
Where's Luke Warm.
Kyle Smith Byno
What does he sound like? Lukewarm. That sounds like a superhero. Yeah, but like not shit one.
James Acaster
Yeah. Not.
Kyle Smith Byno
Not.
James Acaster
Not the A Team is. It's not like your first choice.
Ed Gamble
He's not like the fight like any of the fire superheroes blast fire at their hands. He just sort of gently, gently warms people.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah. He's not. He's not getting that call up from Dr. X. Yeah.
Ed Gamble
He just makes Dr. Doom feel quite cozy.
Kyle Smith Byno
Wait, what's that guy's name? Professor X. Yeah. Who's Dr. X?
James Acaster
Dr. X is just a GP, I think.
Ed Gamble
Is Dr. X the baddie from the Action Men figures? Thank you.
Kyle Smith Byno
Oh, wow.
Ed Gamble
You know, remember on the. On the adverts where they. He would he, like, shoot an axe out of his chest or something?
Kyle Smith Byno
I do remember that.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Kyle Smith Byno
And it was in the Argos catalog.
Ed Gamble
It was in the Argos catalog, yeah. Do you miss the Argos catalog real bad? Yeah.
James Acaster
Good.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah. Flicking through them pages like that. Are the listeners getting this?
Ed Gamble
I think, straight to the bras. That's what I did.
James Acaster
Learning a lot more fingers. So you would go to. With two fingers, you go through the Argos catalog and flip through it like
Kyle Smith Byno
that, running through it.
James Acaster
And Ed went straight to the bras.
Ed Gamble
Straight to the bras. I'll just go in the back index. Yeah, page 172, bras. And they keep coming over and go. Can we help you, sir?
James Acaster
Now, a lot of people in this room will remember, so shout out before we reveal it. Do you if you remember Bob Mortimer's starter, shout it out now. Yeah, you're correct. It is the Odeon Cinnaba hot dog
Ed Gamble
with ketchup and mustard.
James Acaster
I'd say not only is the a fan favorite menu, but this course in particular is a fan favorite. Yeah, people really liked Bob choosing the Odin cinema hot dog. Now you look annoyed.
Kyle Smith Byno
I don't mind that actually. I mean, not as a main, surely.
James Acaster
This is a starter. I know it feels like we're at the mains. K. But you have to remember you had a bunch of minutes at the beginning that you had to go for, but get your own. Own schedule.
Kyle Smith Byno
I quite like that.
Ed Gamble
Do you like. Do you like a cinema hot dog if you're at the cinema?
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah, but they're getting out of hand.
Ed Gamble
How so?
Kyle Smith Byno
They've gone mad. There's too much stuff on them.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Kyle Smith Byno
Jalapenos, bacon, cheesy bits.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. The cheese, the horrible cheese sauce.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah, yeah, all of that.
Ed Gamble
Crispy onions.
Kyle Smith Byno
I do like that.
James Acaster
There's always something, isn't it?
Kyle Smith Byno
Jalapenos, all of that stuff. I say jalapenos already. Cheers the. The og. Like sausage in a bun.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
Listen, I lost catalog again.
Kyle Smith Byno
Squiggle it on the sausage, not the bread. And I'm saying that because my friend Charlotte, she.
Ed Gamble
Charlotte Richie.
Kyle Smith Byno
Not that one.
James Acaster
Okay, well, you got to say not Charlotte Richie, I'm afraid because everyone thinks that you hang out with Charlotte Richie all the time.
Kyle Smith Byno
Sure.
James Acaster
Cuz you own a house. That is
Kyle Smith Byno
she Charlotte, my friend. Not Charlotte Richie.
Ed Gamble
Thank you.
Kyle Smith Byno
She made. She brought her kids round because I got a paddling pool in the garden the other day. Not the other day when it was hot. And she made.
James Acaster
You don't. You don't. But you don't have kids.
Kyle Smith Byno
I don't have kids, but I was like, I have kids but she doesn't have a garden.
Ed Gamble
Perfect.
Kyle Smith Byno
So.
James Acaster
So you had a padding pool. Anyway.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah, I was like, well, it's. It is hot. It's 34. And when it's 34 in London, do something about it.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Dani Pellegrino
Yeah,
Kyle Smith Byno
so I.
James Acaster
But you already owned a pad.
Kyle Smith Byno
No, I went to Argos. Hours that took to fill up. And in the meantime she made some hot dogs for the kids and me. And when she put the ketchup on it, she did it all over. Oh, like on the bread as well.
Ed Gamble
Oh, so she put the. She put the frankfurter in first. She didn't put it on the bread and then put the sausage in.
Kyle Smith Byno
Imagine that. That's fucked up, man. How did you even think of that?
James Acaster
It's this crazy comedy mind. He's a creative. I don't.
Ed Gamble
I don't know where I get my ideas from but you mean she put the frankfurter in and then her swoops were so wide that she was touching the outside of it.
Kyle Smith Byno
Sounds like it was an accident.
Ed Gamble
Right?
Kyle Smith Byno
She was doing it delib.
Ed Gamble
Right. How far onto the bread?
James Acaster
That abbreviated before we're sitting with the
Ed Gamble
inventor of Platty Jeeps.
Kyle Smith Byno
You can abbreviate anything.
James Acaster
The og Platty Jeebs is here. He's going to say to Liberty
Kyle Smith Byno
she. I was just thinking about going into that. But we've done it.
James Acaster
You did it in 2022.
Kyle Smith Byno
All over the.
James Acaster
All over the bread.
Kyle Smith Byno
And sausage.
Ed Gamble
And sausage. But you want it on the sausage. Yeah, of course. You just don't want it on the bread.
Kyle Smith Byno
You don't want.
Ed Gamble
What's the issue with it being on the bread for you?
Kyle Smith Byno
Like, are you okay?
James Acaster
I thought you'd lost your voice. Stop chipping in every five seconds. Oh, it's her. Sorry. Apologies.
Kyle Smith Byno
Who's that?
Ed Gamble
Oh, sorry. Kyle. We should let you know there is an audience here.
James Acaster
There's an audience. We got to know him in the first half. Someone just got told off for no reason. They didn't do anything. Because this person keeps chipping in with stuff that literally ed asking you like why don't you want it on the bread? And they're going to messy.
Kyle Smith Byno
You talking to the only person in this room with a spare seat next to them.
James Acaster
I'm aware that you. I'm aware that you know what is. Cuz it's messy. But Kyel's up here. Cuz you'll probably give a more amusing answer than that.
Ed Gamble
Kyle, why don't you like the ketchup on the bread?
Kyle Smith Byno
Messy.
James Acaster
Brilliant. The bard.
Kyle Smith Byno
No, but it is. Where do you. Where. Where do you hold it then? If the ketchup's on the bread, where you going to hold it?
Ed Gamble
Well, it's not all the way. She not. She's not wrapping it all the way around the Bread. Like turning the hot dog over, making sure we got some on the bottom there. Lovely. Like a twister ice cream. You've got a. Oh, I would.
James Acaster
Now you made quite nice, wouldn't you?
Ed Gamble
Yeah, yeah. Pinching. You pinch the bottom, I guess. Pinch the bottom and then in.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah. What was it with ketchup and mustard?
Ed Gamble
Yeah, and mustard.
James Acaster
Yeah. But here's the thing with Bob's.
Ed Gamble
There's a caveat. Yeah.
James Acaster
So he, he goes with his son to the cinema. He's a grown up. And they get these and they get the ketchup and mustard put on the hot dog side by side. And then Bob for his son.
Kyle Smith Byno
Why have you said side by side?
James Acaster
Well, the ketchup and the mustard is put on side by side. Two lines.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah.
James Acaster
Or two swirls. But like side by side. Just like not touching.
Kyle Smith Byno
Well which one is it, James?
James Acaster
Two lines.
Ed Gamble
I think it's two lines. You think that's disgusting thing.
James Acaster
Two lines. And then Bob gets his finger line too. Bob gets his finger. Don't worry because they will be touching. Bob gets his finger and on his son's hot dog he goes like this and make and, and mixes them back and forth in a wavy line. And then he lifts up his finger that's covered in mustard and ketchup. He says it's good to be alive, son. And then he licks the, licks it off his finger.
Ed Gamble
It's a sweet thing for a dad to do.
James Acaster
He makes it for his like that every time. It's part of their tradition when they go to the cinema.
Kyle Smith Byno
I'd stop going. Unenjoyable experience.
Ed Gamble
I, I, I can't really eat a hot dog in the cinema cuz especially with all that stuff on it. Cuz you look down when the lights come up at the end and covered in jalapenos and crispy onions.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah, too much stuff.
Ed Gamble
Do you think there's a film that's inappropriate to eat a hot dog during? If you saw
Kyle Smith Byno
Baby 2 Pig in the Sea. Yeah, probably loads.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Kyle Smith Byno
Not one's coming to mind.
Ed Gamble
Kyle's improv show is next Saturday at the Wilson Style.
James Acaster
So Hell theater main course you had a confit duck leg potatoes, honey roasted carrots and parsnips.
Dani Pellegrino
Lovely.
Kyle Smith Byno
Gorgeous.
James Acaster
But you're not getting that today we get in the dream main course of Bob Mortimer which is chicken vindaloo with three popping ons and chips from the
Ed Gamble
new Dar Darwinian Dwin Duum Duum.
Kyle Smith Byno
I don't like Indian food.
James Acaster
Here we go.
Ed Gamble
Kyel a chance to sa this Is
James Acaster
why you booked the Royal Albert Hall.
Ed Gamble
A chance to save yourself. A chance to save yourself. Was that you speaking or was it Miles White?
Kyle Smith Byno
I don't like Indian food. I don't. Sorry, I can't get on board with it. I. I don't like the spices. I don't like Indian. I don't like Mexican.
Ed Gamble
Okay, let's clip that up. Clip that up.
Kyle Smith Byno
There's not one Indian or Mexican in here.
James Acaster
Just getting rid of the term food now we can just go and j in.
Ed Gamble
All we need is a clip of you saying, I don't like Indian. I don't like Mexican.
Kyle Smith Byno
There's not one of them in here. I just don't. I don't know what it is. It's not the spice level.
Ed Gamble
Why have you sat forward?
Kyle Smith Byno
Because I want to. I want to make this clear before I can relax. It's not the spice level. It's the taste. I just don't enjoy it. I don't know what it is. I don't know what herbs they got up in that, but I just. I don't like it. Pardon me.
Ed Gamble
Is it coriander? Is it coriander?
Kyle Smith Byno
Kayal? It could. It could be the coriander, maybe. Thank you for your. Thank you. Thank you. It could be. Is that the only thing that joins the two?
James Acaster
No.
Kyle Smith Byno
What do you say?
Ed Gamble
Cumin.
Kyle Smith Byno
Cumin. Not been called that before. Maybe I don't know what it is, but I don't enjoy it. I do like spice. I like African spice. I like Caribbean spice. I like Chinese spice. Give me another one.
James Acaster
I don't know what was. That was posh and baby,
Ed Gamble
Come on.
James Acaster
I like. I like that.
Kyle Smith Byno
I don't know if it's against me, but I like it.
Ed Gamble
No, it's not against you.
James Acaster
Not against you. Nothing's against you here. We're on your side. Apart from the racism,
Kyle Smith Byno
I'm allowed
James Acaster
the.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah. I don't know what it is, but Indian and Mexican is a big no for me.
Ed Gamble
So that's off the table for Jan3 when we organize another meal for Jan3. No Indian, no Mexican.
Kyle Smith Byno
I don't want to go. Okay.
Ed Gamble
Just two huge cuisines.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah.
James Acaster
So you're not going to enjoy eating a massive vindaloo? Chicken vindaloo.
Kyle Smith Byno
Not at all. In any way.
James Acaster
What about the popcorns and the chips?
Kyle Smith Byno
I don't think I've ever had a vindaloo. What is a vindaloo?
James Acaster
It's a pretty spicy curry.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
I don't know exactly what the ingredients are to it, but it's the one that people will always try and flex and be like, I'm tough. I'm gonna get a vindaloo.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Kyle Smith Byno
There's a song about in it?
James Acaster
Yeah. Do you want to sing it? No,
Kyle Smith Byno
but what is the point of this? What is the song about? It's just promoting it.
James Acaster
It's like a football.
Ed Gamble
It was. It was. It was a song commissioned by Big Vindaloo. It was a football song. It was Keith Allen, wasn't it?
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James Acaster
Was it? I thought it was Dennis Pennis. The guy did Dennis.
Kyle Smith Byno
You're saying Dennis Pennis?
James Acaster
Remember Dennis Pennis? You don't remember Dennis Pennis?
Kyle Smith Byno
Are you saying Dennis Pennis?
James Acaster
Yeah, pretty sure. I'm saying that.
Ed Gamble
This is honestly like watching a Christmas dinner. James is the grandchild and you're the granddad. The whiskeys come out at 11am you say Dennis Pennis.
Kyle Smith Byno
Pennis, yeah.
James Acaster
That was his character.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. Dennis Pennis.
James Acaster
Oh, Paul K. Paul K's character. Dennis Pennis. But I think Paul Kay was in the video for it.
Ed Gamble
Maybe.
James Acaster
There were a lot of doing, like, a parody of the Verve Bittersweet Symphony walking down the street and stuff, and then more and more people were joining. And I swear it started with Dennis Pennis, but not as Dennis Pennis, as the real guy.
Kyle Smith Byno
What real guy?
James Acaster
Paul K. Paul K. The actor. He also played the therapist in. In the first series of Ricky Gervais's Afterlife, if that helps you. If that's more to your taste.
Kyle Smith Byno
Redacted.
Ed Gamble
No. It was Fat Les who was played by Keith Allen.
James Acaster
Oh, yes. Was the person Les, not Dennis Pennis.
Kyle Smith Byno
Right.
James Acaster
Times have really changed.
Kyle Smith Byno
So. Okay. But the song was just. Just being like, this is a. What's the point of the song?
Ed Gamble
It was a football song. It was a release for the.
James Acaster
It.
Ed Gamble
Was it World cup or Euros? World Cup.
James Acaster
World Cup.
Kyle Smith Byno
And. And how are those two things related?
Ed Gamble
Can I. Can I say I genuinely know the backstory for how they wrote the song. It's just gonna be genuinely tedious. But they wanted something that represented Britain to do or England specifically for the English team to take them into the World Cup. And they tried to write a song called Chicken Tikka Masala because everyone loves chicken tikka masala. But they worked out very quickly that that didn't scam, so they had to change it to vindaloo. Say again? Oh, yeah. So it's vindaloo. Vindaloo. And we all like vindaloo. So that doesn't really work with chicken tikka masala. Chicken tikka masala. It's Me and my dad and my mom and a bucket of vindaloo. That one.
Kyle Smith Byno
It depends how musical you are. You could do it, I reckon.
Dani Pellegrino
So.
Kyle Smith Byno
So, yeah, go on.
James Acaster
Improv show.
Ed Gamble
If you had to write a song where a food was the main lyric.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
To take England into the World cup, what. What food would you choose?
James Acaster
Great question.
Ed Gamble
Thank you.
Kyle Smith Byno
Well, it would be bangers and match, wouldn't it? Oh, that's good, actually, because what else is English Toad in all?
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Kyle Smith Byno
What's told in the hall?
James Acaster
What is it?
Dani Pellegrino
Yeah.
James Acaster
It's sausages and Yorkshire pudding and then they put gravy.
Kyle Smith Byno
Proper English, that.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Do you want to sing it for us now? Quickly?
Kyle Smith Byno
That's a bit country. I don't know. Let me workshop it.
James Acaster
I think if anything, that's too catchy, Kyle.
Kyle Smith Byno
If it was in 2018, they would have got Stormzy to do it.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Kyle Smith Byno
And it was talking all in the
James Acaster
hall
Kyle Smith Byno
Told the mayor there's too many too many holes in the road.
James Acaster
There it is.
Ed Gamble
That's really good.
Kyle Smith Byno
The problem is now I don't want to stop Moths have been in too many holes in my clothes. Iron in service showed on the folds.
Ed Gamble
It's amazing that as a family, the Allens have released vindaloo. And then that song about the husband with the butt plugs in the bag. Isn't it? What a body of work that family have.
James Acaster
That song was also called Toad in the Hole.
Ed Gamble
Let me get him on that.
Kyle Smith Byno
Really nice.
James Acaster
He's dribbling the ball with everything on the line. He's driving down the pitch. He's facing price hikes and cuts past him. Carrier contracts, tries to block him. Oh, he leaves him in the dust. He's at the edge of the box. He cuts past the non stop group chat.
Dani Pellegrino
Trash talk.
James Acaster
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James Acaster
Your dream side dish was a. Was creamed spinach.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Would it still be?
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah, I think so. I'd. Yeah. I haven't found a dish that's beaten that yet.
James Acaster
Oh, lovely.
Kyle Smith Byno
Maybe creamed corn.
James Acaster
I'm sensing a theme here. You like the creamed corn?
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah, I do. Yeah.
James Acaster
What, what, what makes it such a tight race between the spinach and the corn there?
Kyle Smith Byno
You don't really see cream corn on a menu very often.
James Acaster
Sure.
Kyle Smith Byno
So I enjoy when I see a creamed spinach cuz it's close. I've tried to do cream corn at home.
James Acaster
Yeah, I have.
Kyle Smith Byno
James, I have it up.
James Acaster
What happened? How do you make cream corn? What's in there?
Kyle Smith Byno
Cream?
James Acaster
Yeah, if you. Okay.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah, well, you can pull. You can do anything really.
Ed Gamble
It's not said corn yet.
Kyle Smith Byno
The problem with the Internet is. Everyone's making up light shit. So you can, you can go on different websites, it's got different stuff. And then if you go, oh, I'm just gonna like try and be adventurous. You can put anything in there and you can still call it cream corn.
Ed Gamble
But you've just said you've never been able to successfully make cream corn.
Kyle Smith Byno
That's correct.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Kyle Smith Byno
I'm not saying it's good what I've done.
James Acaster
Yeah, yeah.
Kyle Smith Byno
But yeah, you can sort of just like have a go and whatever you end up with. That screamed corn I get.
Ed Gamble
Have you had the new Nando side, the charred corn, which is basically creamed corn?
Kyle Smith Byno
Yes, I have.
Ed Gamble
Did you like it?
Kyle Smith Byno
Nope.
Ed Gamble
Okay. Yeah, me neither. Man, I love that.
Kyle Smith Byno
You know what do you know when this country went downhill?
Ed Gamble
So many new characters tonight.
Kyle Smith Byno
When they got rid of Sweet Mash in Nando's. Four people agree with me.
James Acaster
Sweet Mash.
Ed Gamble
That's why they got rid of it.
Dani Pellegrino
Yeah.
Kyle Smith Byno
What, no one else was into the Sweet Mash? That's only eight people. I thought that was a banger. And I thought when they stopped that they've made a big mistake.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Kyle Smith Byno
But I guess it's just me and you ate.
James Acaster
Is Nando's as good now? No, it was.
Kyle Smith Byno
No, it's not. As soon as they brought in that QR code,
Ed Gamble
is this going to be a run and saying the pandemic was fake?
Kyle Smith Byno
I just think it's part of the experience. In it, you go up there, they ask you what table you're at. Yeah, it's part of the experience.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
I do agree with that, actually.
Kyle Smith Byno
And now they're like, scan the thing.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
You can still go up.
Kyle Smith Byno
What if I don't have a smartphone? I do. Obviously. Everyone does, but, like, but you could.
Ed Gamble
You can still go up. But they look at you like you're fucking mad. That's a character shocked Nando's work.
James Acaster
Nando's employee wasn't expecting them to come up.
Kyle Smith Byno
I'll work out. I'll workshop that.
Ed Gamble
Workshop it? Yeah, yeah. If you come to Kyle's improv show, a lot of it is him saying, I'll workshop that.
James Acaster
Well, the side dish we'll be giving you today, Bob Mortimer's dream side dish is shallow fried turbans. Bob loves fishing. As you.
Kyle Smith Byno
I know two of those words.
Ed Gamble
Fried is when you cook something in a really hot pan.
Kyle Smith Byno
Right. I tried to do an egg in a pot the other day.
James Acaster
I can.
Ed Gamble
He's not being sick. I know it looks like he's being sick, but he's not.
Kyle Smith Byno
I'd already made something in the pot and then I wanted to have an egg as well, but I didn't want to dirty another pan.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Kyle Smith Byno
So I thought I'd do an egg in a pot.
Ed Gamble
You're saying egg in a pot?
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah. Fried egg.
Ed Gamble
Fried. Fried egg in a pot.
Kyle Smith Byno
In a pot. Yeah.
Ed Gamble
I, I. Okay. You mean in like a saucepan? You tried to fry an egg in a saucepan?
Kyle Smith Byno
No, wait, what's the sauce with? What's that one? That one's a pan.
Ed Gamble
What do you can't hold both. Something and saying, that one's a pan.
James Acaster
We don't know where the hob is. It's so you doing that gives us nothing.
Ed Gamble
It's not going to appear. This isn't hook. You can't. What's that one?
James Acaster
What's that one.
Ed Gamble
It's a dog on a leash. I think I've decided
Kyle Smith Byno
right. There's a frying pan.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Which is what? Describe that for us.
Kyle Smith Byno
What in your mind is shallow?
Ed Gamble
Yes.
Kyle Smith Byno
Shallow and wide.
Ed Gamble
Yes.
Kyle Smith Byno
That's a. That's a frying pan.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Kyle Smith Byno
But deep and opposite. Wide. Narrow.
Ed Gamble
It's not narrow, though. It's narrow. Yeah, yeah.
Kyle Smith Byno
I.
James Acaster
You're trying to explain the difference between a frying pan and a saucepan to yourself. We all know this.
Kyle Smith Byno
I used to date a girl that was a Polish girl that didn't know the difference between this and that. And let me tell you, you cannot teach it. Ain't no way. Anyway, I was trying to do an egg in a pot.
Ed Gamble
Where's that whiskey gone?
Kyle Smith Byno
I. Yeah, I didn't want to use another.
James Acaster
It's here, Kyle. It's here.
Kyle Smith Byno
I didn't want to use another thing that I had to wash up, so I. I put the egg in a pot and so the same pot that you would use to, like, boil an egg.
James Acaster
I'm all right, man. I'm okay.
Ed Gamble
A saucepan.
Kyle Smith Byno
A sauce. Sorry, I don't think that is a saucepan.
Ed Gamble
Did it have a. Did it have a long handle?
Kyle Smith Byno
Did it have a long handle?
Ed Gamble
Okay, don't ask me what I mean by that.
Kyle Smith Byno
Like, come on, Ed. Handle. The handle's the same size as the
Ed Gamble
rest of the pot. Sometimes pots just have the little. The little handles on the side, don't they? That I would call that a pot. The saucepan is something with a longer hand handle that you would then put on the hob.
James Acaster
That's exactly right, yeah.
Ed Gamble
So did it have. How long was the handle?
Kyle Smith Byno
Nothing.
Ed Gamble
It was the sauce. What you cooked. What you cooked in it.
Kyle Smith Byno
What I cooked in noodles.
Ed Gamble
Noodles. So you boiled the noodles.
James Acaster
That's got to be a sauce.
Ed Gamble
That's a saucepan.
Kyle Smith Byno
Fine, it's a saucepan. And then I wanted to put an egg on top of the noodles and salmon, and I put the egg in the bottom of the saucepan and tried to make a fried egg it up real bad. Don't do it.
James Acaster
Yeah, I can. I can.
Ed Gamble
How do you. More questions. You taking the noodles out? You drain the noodles. You've taken them out, or did you just crack the egg directly?
Kyle Smith Byno
I thought I could fry eggs on top of noodles.
Ed Gamble
Sorry, mate. You're already trying to find. Fry an egg in a saucepan at this point.
James Acaster
If you said that's what you did. No, I'm gonna go.
Kyle Smith Byno
What is that?
James Acaster
Of character?
Kyle Smith Byno
I was just trying to like use less stuff.
Ed Gamble
Sure.
Kyle Smith Byno
Washing up is oppressive.
Ed Gamble
Did you add any oil or butter to the saucepan before you put the egg in?
Kyle Smith Byno
A little bit oil.
Ed Gamble
Little bit of oil.
Kyle Smith Byno
That's enough. Yeah, and then I did that and then I had a may with a.
Ed Gamble
What went wrong?
Kyle Smith Byno
I was using a saucepan.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, but it should work because it's a hot surface and you put oil in, then you put an egg in. It should.
Kyle Smith Byno
It should fry, it should work.
Ed Gamble
But my only issue with it would be getting the egg out in one piece.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Carnage.
Ed Gamble
Carnage. So that was the problem.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah, but maybe there is a way to do it.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. You're still not telling me what went wrong, Kyle.
Kyle Smith Byno
I guess just like the whole experience.
Ed Gamble
Okay, but what did the egg look like? Was it edible? Did you get it out in one piece?
Kyle Smith Byno
I ate it.
Ed Gamble
Okay, but how?
James Acaster
Imagine this guy trying to explain to someone the difference between this and that. Hell, can't even tell you what he did.
Kyle Smith Byno
Has anyone tried. Has anyone successfully cooked, fried an egg in a pod pot? Really? Well, what did you do? I'm gonna come right back to you.
James Acaster
What?
Kyle Smith Byno
Well, don't go quiet now screaming your head off. What were you saying?
Ed Gamble
Yeah, this is an issue as well. Maybe the pot didn't have the non stick qualities that you expect from a traditional frying pan.
Kyle Smith Byno
Pan. Got to get back to Argos. All right, I'll try that.
James Acaster
So yeah, anyway, that's turbet.
Ed Gamble
Do you like t. Do you know turbet?
Kyle Smith Byno
I don't know. Turbot?
Ed Gamble
No, fish big. It's, it's I think known as the. Maybe the king of. The king of the fish or the king of the sea. Very.
Kyle Smith Byno
That's king fish. King of the fish is kingfisher. We all know that.
Ed Gamble
Fair point.
James Acaster
The kingfisher is the king of the fish.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah, yeah.
Ed Gamble
It's very flat, wide fish. It's very expensive, it's highly prized. And when you cook it, you have to cook it in a big fish cage. And please don't ask me what that is.
Kyle Smith Byno
Imagine you saying fish cage to me.
Ed Gamble
Fish cage is not a new sort of weird character you can do. That's like Nicholas Cage, but he's a fish.
James Acaster
Good though.
Ed Gamble
But it would be good. Okay, that was the fish part.
Kyle Smith Byno
He's sad cuz the cage door got closed. I'll workshop it.
James Acaster
So your dream drink. Kyle.
Kyle Smith Byno
Wait, hang on. So do I want this or not? Oh, I'm. You're like.
Ed Gamble
You're a fish guy. You like fish.
James Acaster
You're having that Fish on my own. You're having it. That's what we're serving you. We've already served you a vindaloo. You've had to have that. Now you've got this turbot.
Kyle Smith Byno
I don't think I've had a tasting menu before. No, I don't think so.
Ed Gamble
Do you like the idea of it?
Kyle Smith Byno
Not really.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Kyle Smith Byno
Cuz it's usually small bits. Is it? Yeah, no, I like big bits.
James Acaster
These are pretty big. You got a whole turbot here.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. This is big bits though. This is an unusual tasting menu because it is big bits.
Kyle Smith Byno
And how's it got. It's not got fucking lemon and that all over it, is it?
James Acaster
He hasn't put that. It's got fucking lemon in that all over it. He said, just said that it's shallow fried. You don't have to put lemon on it. Do you not like lemon on fish?
Kyle Smith Byno
I don't like lemon on anything. Those who remember the podcast will tell you, James, do you know what I went to? Ed, I'll tell you. I went to a birthday recently.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Kyle Smith Byno
And I was next to. I was at the bars next to James Acaster.
Ed Gamble
Oh yeah.
Kyle Smith Byno
Off menu, this guy. And I ordered tequila and apple juice. Tequila and apple juice, which I spoke about, I think quite a lot on the podcast.
Ed Gamble
Yes.
Kyle Smith Byno
And James went, tequila and apple juice, what's that about? And I thought, do you even fucking listen?
James Acaster
Not really, no. Forget that anecdote in five minutes. I don't listen back to them. And I love that chat with you.
Ed Gamble
Also, what you must remember is James is on the podcast as part of the severance program.
Kyle Smith Byno
Right, right, right, right. So he's clocking out.
James Acaster
I don't know what's going on in and out of it. I mean, right now this makes sense. But if you see me outside of here, I'm not going to know who you are. And don't, don't bring up your chef character to me. I've already forgotten his name. Miles White. Thank you for your drink. You wanted a cherry old fashioned. Cherry vanilla. Old fashioned.
Kyle Smith Byno
Lovely. Gorgeous. That restaurant doesn't exist anymore where I got that.
James Acaster
Oh, really? What was it called?
Kyle Smith Byno
No idea. But it is now like a karaoke place or something like that.
Ed Gamble
Right.
James Acaster
Ah. What's your go to karaoke song, NSync girlfriend? I don't know that one.
Kyle Smith Byno
Imagine I just sang the whole song. So when I was in. I was about 7 and I was in summer school, so I grew up in Newham. Nah, don't lie. I grew up in Newham. And they used to, just before the summer holidays, they would come out and give you come out, they would come around and give you a magazine and you could choose which course you wanted to do during the summer holidays. So you could do football, you could do art, you could do whatever, blah, blah, blah. I would always choose drama. I did a drama summer school thing at Gainsborough Primary School and Irrelevant. And I did this show where NSYNC Girlfriend was the first song at the start of the show. There are two raps in that song by Nelly. And they split that between two of the members of the cast, me and Peter Bakari, who recently played volleyball for Team GB in the Olympics. Irrelevant. Anyway, me and him were doing the two different raps in the song and I was doing the first one. Now I'd been practicing this for like three weeks before we did the show where our friends and family come and watch it and we're, oh, well done. This is what they've been doing for the whole of summer. And I've been practicing non stop listening to the song, getting those lyrics in my head, making sure that I'm ready for my big day. Big day comes. Song starts I sing the second verse. I sing Peter's verse.
James Acaster
Oh, no.
Kyle Smith Byno
Instead of mine. That I've been practicing for three weeks straight. Halfway through Peter's verse, I realized I don't know Peter's verse. I knew the first eight lines, but that's it. And then I tried to like do some sort of mash up where I could fuse his into mine. Fucked it. And then obviously. Pardon me.
James Acaster
They're obviously shouting do the rap. But I presume that's where this is going.
Kyle Smith Byno
And then we. And then. Yeah, so then obviously Peter has to do his rap. But I've already done it.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Kyle Smith Byno
So then he just repeats what I've done. Why am I telling this story?
James Acaster
Yeah, I asked you if you had to go to karaoke song.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah. NYN Girlfriend. Well, play the instrumental and I'll do the rest.
James Acaster
You want to be careful because the people working on this show are very good and they will be able to do that.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah, it might be at the end
Ed Gamble
of the show, but they will get it ready and we will put the lyrics up on that screen.
Kyle Smith Byno
Does anybody know that song?
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Kyle Smith Byno
Oh, okay. Well, if they play I'll do it.
Ed Gamble
It'll be so easy. We'll put the work, we're putting the lyrics up on the big screen. We're going to get the instrumental and then we can end the show by. By you Doing karaoke at the Royal Albert Hall.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah, why not?
Ed Gamble
Might as well.
Kyle Smith Byno
Bit of fun in it.
Ed Gamble
Bit of fun.
James Acaster
Anyway, we're about to give you the dream drink of Bob Mortimer Citrus IPA. Minus 20 degrees Celsius. It's gonna be at minus 20.
Ed Gamble
It's gonna be at minus twenty. Right.
James Acaster
A Citrus IPA.
Kyle Smith Byno
I don't even like cold water. I like my water room temp, not lukewarm. And citrus is a big no for me, of course. As mentioned, as previously mentioned, I don't like lemon, I don't like lime. I had a research call yesterday because I'm going on sati kitsch next week.
James Acaster
Be careful.
Ed Gamble
Be careful, man. You do one. One tiny little thing wrong on that show and everyone complains.
James Acaster
Yeah. You got to be careful, man. They'll be on you.
Kyle Smith Byno
Tell me more about this, huh?
James Acaster
I punched a polar bear and the viewers kicked off.
Kyle Smith Byno
I went viral.
James Acaster
It did go viral. A lot of people wrote about it like it was a big deal.
Kyle Smith Byno
To be honest, the way that you punched that polar bear made me think that you've got at least a blue belt.
James Acaster
Yeah, I punched it. I punched it better than I thought I was capable of punching it.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah. Yeah, that was a problem.
James Acaster
Proper bunch left hook, a proper light.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, it's the proper spun round. It was amazing.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
And then he went over to the Christmas tree where it was clearly very expensive, fragile decorations. And you watch a man try and stay within the character of anger, but also not want to things up for people and go, yeah.
James Acaster
Just shook it because I knew they'd get upset.
Kyle Smith Byno
It shows he's still human. He's still down to earth, still human.
James Acaster
I know what I'm doing. I'm in control of it. Which is not what the tabloid said.
Ed Gamble
232 complaints on the BBC.
Dani Pellegrino
Really?
Ed Gamble
232.
Kyle Smith Byno
Does that mean that someone has written in?
Ed Gamble
I don't think they physically have to write in the letter, so I think they can do it online or call,
Kyle Smith Byno
isn't it?
James Acaster
Some might have phoned in, emailed. Some of them will be old enough that they had written letters because that's their life.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah.
James Acaster
But, yeah, either way, imagine doing it.
Kyle Smith Byno
I don't think anything could offend me enough that I would write about it. I. Pardon me.
Ed Gamble
Oh, yeah. Try and beat James's record and get more complaints on Saturday Kitchen.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
How do you think. How do you think you could do it?
Kyle Smith Byno
I've sort of got. The thing is, I don't have the same fan base as you, James, and
James Acaster
I've Got my fan base who are complaining.
Kyle Smith Byno
I don't think I will do that, but thank you. But why am I talking about that? Sally Kitsch. I'm on.
Ed Gamble
You're on Sally Kitsch?
James Acaster
Yeah, the Citrus ipa.
Kyle Smith Byno
Oh, I had a call yesterday and they were asking me what my don'ts are.
Ed Gamble
Food Hell.
Kyle Smith Byno
Food Hell?
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Sorry, they don't call it do's.
Kyle Smith Byno
It was literally yesterday.
James Acaster
And, yeah, I'm definitely watching this. On Saturday,
Kyle Smith Byno
they asked me my food Hell and I explained lemon and lime, and I got that same response I get when I say it to a bartender. She was like, lemon and lime. Really? Yes, really. Even in a drink? Yes, even in the drink. You don't like it? That's what I just said. But I like lemon lime. So Citrus ipa.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Kyle Smith Byno
Is hell to me. Also, I don't like beers or lagers.
Ed Gamble
That might be a problem, then.
Kyle Smith Byno
I'm a spiritsman.
James Acaster
Yeah. Oh, we've gathered that.
Ed Gamble
So you don't like things that are cold, citrusy or beer. So citrus IPA at minus 20 degrees might be a bit of an issue for you.
Kyle Smith Byno
I like some things cold. I like a cold Coke in a bottle. Yeah, like, you work for them. I work for bottles. I like. Yeah, like, I like some things cold,
James Acaster
but so far it's one thing you like cold. A cold Coke in a bottle, and then the other people who liked it, you murked them.
Kyle Smith Byno
I like this. This would be nice if it was cold, wouldn't it?
Ed Gamble
I like this room. Temp.
Kyle Smith Byno
Oh, sorry. Yeah, I've split the room. Yeah, I.
Ed Gamble
So what's going to be my. What's going to be my job on the improv show, do we think next week your job? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kyle Smith Byno
You'll be chatting to the. Also, we don't announce the guests. You'll be. You'll be chatting to the audience, just getting some stuff.
Ed Gamble
But it's sold out.
Kyle Smith Byno
It is sold out.
Ed Gamble
But you don't want to announce the guest just in case people bring their tickets back. Is this what you're saying?
Kyle Smith Byno
We don't announce. Why don't we announce a guest?
Ed Gamble
Again, not a question for me, Kyle.
Kyle Smith Byno
No, because we like it to be a surprise. Yeah, yeah. We like people to come out and be like, it's him. Which I've. I've heard some audible gasps. Matt Bainton, for example. Lily Allen, when she was against that,
James Acaster
of course, Fat Les's daughter.
Kyle Smith Byno
Fat Les's daughter.
James Acaster
David Harbour in the audience. I bet he gasped. Not for the first time that day.
Kyle Smith Byno
I mean, what was the Question.
James Acaster
We just talked about IPA and we got onto that somehow, right?
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah. I'm a spiritsman. Lagers, beers, that sort of stuff's not for me. I'm not even a wineman. Phil Wang's a wineman.
Ed Gamble
Phil Wang's a wineman. I'm a wineman with Phil Wang.
Kyle Smith Byno
He brought. When we had that dinner, Shan 3 he. He ordered a fancy see wine and he was like, oh, if you don't. Even if you don't like wine, you'll enjoy this. And I tasted it and I was like, that's drink.
Ed Gamble
That's how you see all wine is just drink.
Kyle Smith Byno
That's just drink.
James Acaster
Yeah, it tastes like drink.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah.
James Acaster
We arrive at the dessert. Now, you had a M and S Black Forest gateau on your birthday for. For the dessert. Had to be your birthday now.
Kyle Smith Byno
And you boys generally got one in my dress room tonight.
James Acaster
Yeah, we sent one into your dress
Ed Gamble
and it was only your birthday, what, eight or nine days ago?
Kyle Smith Byno
So I think eight, yeah.
Ed Gamble
You think?
Kyle Smith Byno
I think so. I don't know what day is today.
James Acaster
Don't tell everyone who you share a birthday with. Cuz you were telling us pretty s the birthday. 5th of March.
Kyle Smith Byno
Anyone? 5th of March. What did you do for your birthday?
James Acaster
Had chicken K. Had chicken K. Nice.
Kyle Smith Byno
Made them or bought them?
James Acaster
Bought, yes.
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Kyle Smith Byno
You've got to get them from Ms. Lovely. Happy birthday, mate. If you were closer, I'd give you some of this trig.
Ed Gamble
Just if you're wondering how rock and roll it is backstage at the Off Menu live shows, what we spent about 45 minutes doing was going on Wikipedia and finding out which famous people share our birthdays.
Kyle Smith Byno
I remember that
Ed Gamble
you said, well, mine, mine, mine, mine. My top three are Drew Barrymore, John Ham and Osama bin Laden.
James Acaster
No one could beat that.
Ed Gamble
They're all go getters.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah, that's unbeatable.
James Acaster
Yeah, we could beat that.
Kyle Smith Byno
I can't believe Osama B is. He's so Pisces. Typical pisces.
James Acaster
Who shares your birthday?
Kyle Smith Byno
Ka Mendes.
James Acaster
Very cool.
Kyle Smith Byno
The end. That's it. Just me and her.
James Acaster
Well, listen, do you want it to be your birthday for this dessert as well? Because it's specified.
Kyle Smith Byno
If it's got any lemon and lime
James Acaster
in it, then no, there's no lemon and lime.
Kyle Smith Byno
Really?
James Acaster
No. The dream dessert we're going to be giving you, Bob Mortimer's is syrup sponge pudding with custard. I think it's like what I used to have at school.
Kyle Smith Byno
Oh, the one that's sort of brown.
James Acaster
I mean, quite a Lot of puddings are brown.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Kyle Smith Byno
Name three.
James Acaster
Oh, hold on, you got me now. A chocolate swiss roll, a sticky toffee pudding, and n. You're right, there's nothing else.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah, I don't mind that. It's not my go to. I don't love, like caramel toffee, syrupy fudge, those sides. Yeah. What I really like. Oh, my gosh. So I went to Malaga for my birthday last week.
Ed Gamble
Last week? Yeah.
James Acaster
Lovely.
Kyle Smith Byno
Whilst this guy was doing Kievs, I was in Malaga having. Ah, I forgot what it's called.
James Acaster
So when you came up with the character of Miles White, who's quite forgetful, what was that? Is there anything you based that on? Are you inspired by? Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Where do you get your crazy ideas from, Kyle?
Dani Pellegrino
I don't.
Kyle Smith Byno
I really don't know. It just sort of pops out of me before. Just talk amongst yourselves for a sec whilst I find this.
James Acaster
Ed and I were about to walk out here at the top of this half and Kyle was putting that little red neckerchief on, but with like just his normal clothes on. And I said to him, I hope you enjoy us making fun of that red neckerchief. And then ran out here. You must have been thinking in your head, you have no idea what I'm gonna be wearing.
Kyle Smith Byno
Almendrado. My girlfriend's in the audience, I hope. Make some noise. I don't have two girlfriends.
James Acaster
This is awkward. Oh, no.
Kyle Smith Byno
Good thing I'm wearing this. Negative. Have I said that correctly, girlfriend?
James Acaster
Is that. Is he said that correctly? You say it, girlfriend.
Ed Gamble
I thought I was your fiance.
Kyle Smith Byno
Almendrado, anyone?
Ed Gamble
Well, whatever you said, your voice broke halfway through it. That was.
Kyle Smith Byno
I will read out to you. Almond crunch, vanilla ice cream wrapped in sponge cake coated in amaretto. Toasted almonds with hot chocolate sauce.
James Acaster
Yes, please. That sounds great.
Kyle Smith Byno
Now, €10. I had that. I had that on my birthday, upon my birthday last week. And I genuinely think it might be the best dessert I've ever had.
James Acaster
Wow.
Kyle Smith Byno
It tops the black forest ghetto on my birthday. Wow. Because this was also on my birthday.
James Acaster
But you would like to change your dream dessert.
Kyle Smith Byno
Exceptional.
Ed Gamble
So it's like chocolate wrapped?
Kyle Smith Byno
No, the. The chocolate was a sauce, but it was wrapped in like a pastry that was like almond coated.
Dani Pellegrino
Oh, wow.
Kyle Smith Byno
Amaretto coated, Amoretto style.
Ed Gamble
I love the sound of that.
James Acaster
It's really good. We never had it shouted out on the podcast before.
Kyle Smith Byno
This is the first.
James Acaster
It's quite exciting.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah, it was really almontrado. Am I still getting that right?
James Acaster
No, it's it's pronounced.
Kyle Smith Byno
Oh, no.
James Acaster
Well, you're not having that anyway. You're having civet sponge pudding with custard.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, yeah.
Kyle Smith Byno
Well, yeah, fine. I mean, I'm not crazy about that, but it's not in my food.
Ed Gamble
Hell, yes.
James Acaster
Yeah. Okay, good, you've learned that term. Now just a time.
Kyle Smith Byno
Go on sat your kitchen. Start calling it Don't.
Ed Gamble
What's in your. What's in your food heaven for Saturday kitchen. Can you give us a little preview of what.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah, of course. What I really enjoy is sort of like honey barbecue meat. So ribs, brisket, short rib, that sort of stuff. I'd like that. Lobster Mac and cheese, perhaps.
James Acaster
I don't think this is in the Saturday kitchen budget.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah, not after they had to refurbish after you it up.
James Acaster
Merry Christmas.
Kyle Smith Byno
That's the sort of stuff that is in my heavens.
James Acaster
So as we get to the end of the menu, what do you think of the meal that we've given you today? Bob Mortimer's. And what does it make you think of, Bob?
Kyle Smith Byno
I really enjoyed the hot dog element.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Kyle Smith Byno
And I'm happy that that was bearing
James Acaster
in mind that he's putting his finger. And that's non negotiable.
Kyle Smith Byno
His fingers. Non negotiable.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Kyle Smith Byno
Is that happening in front of me or that's happening in the kitchen?
James Acaster
What would you rather?
Kyle Smith Byno
Well, obviously I don't want to see
Ed Gamble
him do that, but you're gonna know he's done it, so you may as well see him do it. Right.
James Acaster
And he just have to look at you and say, it's good to be alive, son, and lick his finger.
Kyle Smith Byno
So to be fair, I do want to meet him. So.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. That's the only way you can meet him is if you watch him fingers my hot dog. Finger your hot dog. Yeah, it's good. Pros and cons.
Kyle Smith Byno
Yeah, yeah. All right. Yeah, yeah, I'll take that.
James Acaster
Great.
Kyle Smith Byno
So I'm happy with the starter.
James Acaster
Happy with that. The vindaloo.
Kyle Smith Byno
You not the vindaloo. I'm not really on board with.
Ed Gamble
Because you don't like Indians.
Kyle Smith Byno
Because
James Acaster
food.
Kyle Smith Byno
Because I don't like Liliana's dad.
James Acaster
A shallow fried turbet on the side. You weren't too keen on that either.
Ed Gamble
Well, we didn't really talk about the fish. Sort of got stuck on the cooking utensils.
Kyle Smith Byno
It was more about the egg.
James Acaster
Yeah, yeah,
Kyle Smith Byno
no, I'll try that.
James Acaster
You'll try it?
Kyle Smith Byno
Look, I'm not against trying stuff as long as the stuff doesn't have things in that I don't like,
James Acaster
like the citrus IPA, for example, which you don't want. Minus 20 degrees.
Kyle Smith Byno
Exactly that. Yeah.
James Acaster
So overall I'd say you probably won't enjoy this meal.
Kyle Smith Byno
I think it's half and half.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Kyle Smith Byno
50. 50.
James Acaster
Thank you for clearing that up.
Ed Gamble
Give it up for Kyle Smith by now, everybody. Thank you so much for coming to us.
James Acaster
Menu live.
Ed Gamble
You've been absolutely amazing. Thank you so much for coming to the show.
James Acaster
Thank you for coming. Thank you so much for coming along. Goodbye. Good night.
Ed Gamble
Well, there we are, James. Another Royal Albert hall ticked off.
James Acaster
There we go. Kyle Smith Byner there. Kyle is on tour with his own show called Story Bro, which is like an improv show. He's got a whole troop of people
Ed Gamble
and has a guest. Has a guest monologist.
James Acaster
Yes.
Ed Gamble
Or guest question. Oscar. I've done that.
James Acaster
You've done that. I've turned it down repeatedly. And we'll continue to use. Because it's funny now.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. And let me tell you, it is funny when you do it as well.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Because Kyle wants it to be cool improv.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
So if you really lay it on thick and try and get the. Try and get them all to put their hands in the middle and say, three, two, one, let's improv. They don't like that car.
James Acaster
Kyle hates it. Yeah, I think.
Ed Gamble
But the others really get on board with.
James Acaster
Yeah, they love it because it winds up.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
Yeah, that's good. Well, definitely go and see that. Tickets@coolstorybro.co.uk it's cool with a K, by the way.
Ed Gamble
It's KSB. Kyle Smith Bino. Cool story bro. That's what's clever.
James Acaster
I thought you meant cool with a K as in cook. The word cook.
Ed Gamble
That's not how spelling works.
James Acaster
Cool with a K would be cook
Ed Gamble
would be a different word.
James Acaster
C O. Okay. Kyle was a cook. Marcus.
Ed Gamble
Oh, thanks. Bye.
James Acaster
Oh, yes. Goodbye, everyone.
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Date: July 6, 2026
Episode Theme:
A chaotic, character-filled live "Tasting Menu" episode at the Royal Albert Hall, in which returning guest Kiell Smith-Bynoe is presented with another previous guest's dream meal (Bob Mortimer's), while Ed Gamble and James Acaster navigate tangents, improv, and the quirks of live performance.
In this special live edition, Ed and James revisit the Off Menu "Tasting Menu" format, where fan-favorite Kiell Smith-Bynoe returns—not to order his own dream meal, but to eat his way through Bob Mortimer’s legendary menu. With Kiell arriving in character as "Miles White" (his never-produced Australian chef persona), the episode rapidly descends into playful chaos, digressions, and behind-the-scenes camaraderie. Expect off-menu anecdotes, on-stage drinking, spirited debate about hot dogs and utensils, and riotous improv energy.
Menu Reveal ([29:53])
An exuberant, off-script showcase of what makes Off Menu a cult favorite: food is the gateway to banter, improvised characters, and affectionate chaos. Kiell’s honesty and unpretentious taste run headlong into Bob Mortimer’s wild menu, but the real meal is the camaraderie, digressions, and epic tales of WhatsApp chats, undercooked eggs, and live-show disasters.
Memorable moment:
Watching Kiell try to explain cooking utensils, or roast modern hot dogs, only for Ed and James to riff it into absurdity.
Would Kiell enjoy Bob’s menu? About 50/50—and that’s enough for a classic Off Menu night out.