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Ed Gamble
Oh, hi, James. Have you heard the news?
James Acaster
Oh, yeah, go on.
Ed Gamble
You and I are modern boys. Because the off Menu podcast is now on YouTube.
James Acaster
This is embarrassing.
Ed Gamble
Why is it embarrassing, man? You love YouTube.
James Acaster
I love watching clips on YouTube. Sure, now people can watch clips of off Menu on YouTube, but it's embarrassing, man.
Ed Gamble
It's not embarrassing at all. It's really cool. We're on YouTube with the great and good. The coolest people in the world are on YouTube. Me, you, Logan Paul.
James Acaster
Who's Logan Paul? The dad from succession at off menu podcast. That's what Benito's calling us now. And we're on TikTok. This is embarrassing, man.
Ed Gamble
It's not embarrassing, man. We're cool. We're like Olivia, Rodrigo and Ed.
James Acaster
People have been asking us, battering us, bothering us. Actually, they want to watch the Stephen Graham super cut from the Stephen Graham episode so they can see all of his reactions to us. Everything that he did or Benito has bent to their whims and he's going to put it on YouTube. He's going to do it.
Ed Gamble
Follow us at Off Menu official on TikTok at Off menu podcast on YouTube.
Sharon Wanjohi
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Ed Gamble
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Sharon Wanjohi
Hey there.
James Acaster
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Sharon Wanjohi
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Ed Gamble
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James Acaster
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Ed Gamble
Welcome to the Off Menu podcast. Filming the deer hunter of Kuma. Sitting by the river choir Friendship and eating the cobra of food podcasts.
James Acaster
Filming that is a gamble. My name is James Akin because Robert.
Ed Gamble
De Niro is filming Deer Hunter. They sat by the river Kwai and he ate cobra. So that's. That's the intro.
James Acaster
Together we own a dream restaurant. Every single week. Basic man, we're inviting a guest to be asking their favorite ever start and make the Podcast, side dish and drink. Not in that order. And this week, our guest is Sharon.
Ed Gamble
Wan Jovi, a wonderful comic. Sharon is absolutely brilliant. I've gigs with her a few times. She's always fantastic. She's got a great vibe.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
So I'm looking forward to having her on the pod.
James Acaster
We've never gigged together, Sharon and I.
Ed Gamble
No.
James Acaster
I've watched her videos on YouTube, think she's very funny, and heard so many good things from so many comedians. I'm very excited to actually finally be in the room.
Ed Gamble
James doesn't kick with any new comics because he refuses to do mixed Bill shows.
James Acaster
Yes. Yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
Why? Why do I have to do that?
James Acaster
Why don't you do a mixed bill show? Whatever.
Ed Gamble
People go to the Bill. Bill Murray and do his little shows for everyone.
James Acaster
Yes.
Ed Gamble
And never. And not look another comedian in the eye.
James Acaster
Bullseye.
Ed Gamble
You're looking a bullseye.
James Acaster
Huh?
Ed Gamble
You're looking a bullseye, but you won't look in a comedian's eye.
James Acaster
I will look in a bullseye. Yeah. I'm not scared. But listen, I'm excited to be on a podcast.
Ed Gamble
Yes.
James Acaster
With an upand coming comedian.
Ed Gamble
Absolutely.
James Acaster
However, if Sharon says the secret ingredient, an ingredient which we have deemed to be unacceptable, then we will be kicking her out of the dream restaurant. And this week, the secret ingredient is Anything that's good.
Ed Gamble
Anything that's good.
James Acaster
Anything that's good.
Ed Gamble
Another reference to Bob De Niro.
James Acaster
Yeah, we're. Look, we're recording this on the day that the De Niro episode went out.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
So there is, you know, there's a lot of talk about, you know, someone suggested online that we had anything as long as it's good, which was Bob's.
Ed Gamble
Answer to a lot of the courses, which we respect.
James Acaster
So Sharon would have to say that phrase. So we're not going to get rid of Sharon if she says anything that's good, that's good.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
But if she says, oh, anything as well, as long as it's good.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
Then out.
Ed Gamble
Yes. Bye.
James Acaster
Bye. Yeah, bye bye. Also, huge shout out to the person who commented that it was a real shame that Robert De Niro had done our podcast. Cause it means, like, it gave this particular listener the vision of a dystopian future where even this amazing Hollywood star has to go on these silly little podcasts and. And promote their wares. And then they ended the. The post, I believe, by saying no disrespect to the lads.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. It really made me laugh.
James Acaster
Yeah. Ed shared that on the off menu. WhatsApp group Alberto shared it. Yeah. But I. I was very glad to see it either way. I was delighted to see it.
Ed Gamble
Yes.
James Acaster
Very, very funny.
Ed Gamble
Very good.
James Acaster
That person's listening. Thank you very much. We appreciate you being in our corner.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. Sharon is doing her debut show at the Edinburgh fringe at the Pleasants. So if you are heading up to Edinburgh, make sure what is definitely going to be a hot ticket.
James Acaster
Yeah. You've got to get along to that show.
Ed Gamble
But for now, this is the off menu menu of Sharon.
James Acaster
Sharon Ma Johi.
Ed Gamble
Welcome, Sharon, to the dream restaurant.
James Acaster
Welcome, Sharon Mahe to the dream Restaurant. But it's been your tough time.
Sharon Wanjohi
Sorry. I thought we were doing sound effects and I got really excited.
Ed Gamble
I mean, James was doing a sound effect, I suppose, of bursting out of a lamp. But hum or nino, those are the.
James Acaster
Only ones heard humming a hum in ages.
Sharon Wanjohi
Oh, we need to bring it back.
James Acaster
That's good.
Sharon Wanjohi
Homa supremacy.
Ed Gamble
When was the last time you heard homa?
James Acaster
I mean, it's got to be a cartoon or an American sitcom of some sort. I'm pretty sure that growing up, someone would. Would quite regularly say hum. What were you. What's your frame of reference for that show?
Sharon Wanjohi
Just on the streets. I think it's the go to cat call. I heard it this morning on the way here.
James Acaster
Someone said humina.
Sharon Wanjohi
Yeah. I was disgusted because vintage. I was kind of like, okay, I.
Ed Gamble
See a throwback when turned around. Did it turn out that the person who said it was a cartoon wolf and their. Their tongue was unrolling and stuff hit.
James Acaster
Themselves on the head with a mallet.
Ed Gamble
And their eyes burst out there?
James Acaster
Nino. Nino. I've heard. Yeah, that's. That's more recent. That's. That, that's. That's never going away. No. Hey, I haven't heard it after. It's a good one. Well, welcome. Are you a foodie?
Sharon Wanjohi
I eat food.
James Acaster
Okay.
Ed Gamble
Yes.
Sharon Wanjohi
I think that's the full extent. I'm not like a. This pairs well with a whale fin sourced in Iceland in 2040. Like, I'll just. If it's. If it looks good, I'm eating it.
Ed Gamble
Would you eat a whale fin that was sourced in Iceland in 2014?
Sharon Wanjohi
Maybe in secret.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
If no one found out. Just to say I did it.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
You know?
Ed Gamble
Yeah. You can't say you did it because.
Sharon Wanjohi
It'S in secret to myself. I said I'd walk around with my head held high and I'd be like, I ate a whalefin.
Ed Gamble
Anyone. Anyone brings you down, Anyone says hum and a humming to you on the Street.
Sharon Wanjohi
Hey, buddy, I ate a whale thing. I'll have you know.
James Acaster
Actually, I think that would work. I think if you get the cat callers.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
James Acaster
I think they would back off.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
If someone said I ate a whale thing.
Sharon Wanjohi
Police. I'd call the police if someone said that to me.
Ed Gamble
Nino, Nino.
James Acaster
I come in with the nay nos. You got a show that you're taking to the Edinburgh Festival. I am so excited. Can you reveal what it's called?
Sharon Wanjohi
No, because I haven't named it yet.
Ed Gamble
Great.
James Acaster
It's still three months.
Sharon Wanjohi
It's still cooking in the belly.
Ed Gamble
No, we won't. Today is the way we're going to come up with the name at some point during the episode together, we're all going to. Humina. Humina. It's obviously the front runner at the moment.
James Acaster
How are you spelling that for the poster?
Sharon Wanjohi
H U M I. Hum, I. Is that crazy? I see an I in it for some reason. I is a very sexy letter. I think so. I think it has that kind of.
Ed Gamble
Is it the sexiest letter?
Sharon Wanjohi
No, I'd argue it's E. E? Yeah, it's like curvy, but in like a sharp way. The best of both worlds, you know?
Ed Gamble
Lowercase E. No.
Sharon Wanjohi
Oh, hell no. How dare you. Have some respect for me, please.
James Acaster
Uppercase.
Sharon Wanjohi
Uppercase E, obviously.
James Acaster
Is that curvy?
Sharon Wanjohi
Yeah, I think so. It's like a 90s supermodel.
James Acaster
Maybe like euro. The euro.
Sharon Wanjohi
Maybe that's what it is. Maybe that's the association E. Italians.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
Wait, is it. Wait, do they use euros in Italy?
Ed Gamble
Last time I checked.
Sharon Wanjohi
Okay, thank you. I've never been, so I don't know.
James Acaster
I'm glad knows stuff.
Ed Gamble
That's true. Right? Benito, Google what currency they use in Italy.
James Acaster
Okay, so. Is currently the front runner for what your show is going to be called. What can people expect from this show? My debut show.
Sharon Wanjohi
Yes. My first baby. I'm going to be a mother, you guys. What can people expect? Fun, pissing, pussy, money, weed, good vibes, cool people. Two for one entry. I don't know, I just want to talk about life. Yeah, I think I might be the first person to do that.
Ed Gamble
I don't think anyone said ever back to back. It's about pussy, money, weed. Two for one entry.
James Acaster
Does that not make you excited to come?
Ed Gamble
I guess. Like pussy, money, weed. I hear that and it's. I'm thinking someone's talking about having a lot of money rather than being good value for the people who are paying to see.
James Acaster
Yeah, sure. You don't turn up and expect to hear about a bunch of bargains, some money saving tips. I mean, we've had some people come on the podcast in the past and choose weed.
Sharon Wanjohi
Really? Yeah, as an option, as a pairing thing with beautiful.
James Acaster
With.
Ed Gamble
With dishes.
Sharon Wanjohi
Genius. Has anyone done pills yet?
James Acaster
No, I don't think anyone's done. You prefer pills?
Sharon Wanjohi
Is this, is this on record? I've never tried it.
James Acaster
Oh yeah, we recorded.
Sharon Wanjohi
Is this thing on? I've never tried drugs ever. I've never taken a paracetamol. I've never tried coffee. How dare you even insinuate that I'm a good Christian woman. I'll have you know I don't even have the wine at church.
James Acaster
Like to speak about your favorite bits of the Bible.
Sharon Wanjohi
Oh, all of it is so juicy. I don't even know where to begin. What's your favorite part of the Bible?
James Acaster
What was my favorite part? I like it when Jesus trashes the temple. Yeah, that gets glossed over so much.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
The fact he absolutely trashed the fuck out of a temple once. It was not what we're supposed to do.
Ed Gamble
Have you read that one? The bit that's supposed to be like that was edited out of the Bible. Like Jesus is a teenager when he like blinds a kid. No.
Sharon Wanjohi
What?
Ed Gamble
Have you read that one? Look out, Bonita. That's true. Apparently there's a bit of the Bible they cut it. They cut out is about. Because you never hear about Jesus as a teenager.
Sharon Wanjohi
No.
Ed Gamble
And like one of the stories is he gets annoyed with a kid and blinds him with his magic powers.
Sharon Wanjohi
Oh my God. Jesus hasn't has an Asbo.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
Crazy. Makes sense that he would have an Asmo or that he would not, you know, growing up with his powers that he, he as a teenager, he would misuse them at some point.
Ed Gamble
It makes sense. I think they should have left it in.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Like that would. That connects me more to Jesus. Like we all had. We all had a difficult teenage years. Right.
Sharon Wanjohi
If I was at house party and I could turn water to wine. I'm doing that to humans, mate.
Ed Gamble
Water to aftershock.
James Acaster
Yes. Yeah. Water to hadn't even been invented yet. Like, what is this blue liquid?
Sharon Wanjohi
This is great. I'm going to have a hangover for sure.
James Acaster
But then I guess if it is like during the school years, it will get a bit Harry Potter, won't it? Yeah, like the Harry Potter series. I imagine the Christians are going to come for you. Yeah, my parents are Christians so they're going to get me straight away. You should have said that stuff.
Ed Gamble
You go to hell, Benito. I want to be factually accurate. What we. What we're looking at here, Benito can't find anything about blinding a kid. So now I'm worried I've made that up.
James Acaster
Oh, my God.
Ed Gamble
So apologies to anyone who's across the scripture.
James Acaster
If you start a rumor about Jesus, that's cool.
Sharon Wanjohi
Yeah. Give it 100 years. That's happened.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. Yeah, that's cool.
James Acaster
We always start. We still have sparkling water. Sharon, do you have a preference?
Sharon Wanjohi
Sparkling. All the way.
James Acaster
All the way.
Sharon Wanjohi
All the way. I love it. It makes me feel like it's like the water equivalent of an LSD trip. But I've never done drugs, so I wouldn't know what that feels like.
James Acaster
I'm obsessed with you.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
Making it sound.
James Acaster
You are most drug obsessed guest ever.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. But you've never done them. You just like the idea of.
Sharon Wanjohi
I just like the idea of them. Ye. I imagine that's what it'd be like.
Ed Gamble
Yes.
Sharon Wanjohi
Love a bit. Sparkling water. I like it when it's like a brand you've never heard of before and it's like at the back of the fridge. No one's touched it for like 25 years and it just tastes like TV static. Put that aside.
Ed Gamble
That's interesting because we've had the TV static thing before, but it's normally people saying that they hate that. But you like the idea of tasting TV static.
Sharon Wanjohi
It's so whimsical.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
How many, how many parts of the day do we get to inject a bit of whimsy? Have some funny water that bubbles on your. Dang. It's so like bubble, bubble, toil and travel. It's great. I love it.
James Acaster
You went into witch territory at the end.
Ed Gamble
Yes.
Sharon Wanjohi
Is that not allowed?
James Acaster
No, you can. I'm just wondering if that's the vibe you'd like for your watercourse. Do you want. Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Do you want it from a cauldron?
Sharon Wanjohi
Oh, my God. Bubbling. Yeah, I want to see like a frog, like just kind of hanging on the side. Get me a glass of that, please. Waiter? I'll have ten.
James Acaster
Do they also hang out in groups of three witches? Is it? I mean.
Ed Gamble
Well, that's the classic.
Sharon Wanjohi
It is the classic. That's a stereotype and we don't really like that stereotype.
James Acaster
We.
Sharon Wanjohi
Yeah, like I'll have like a big, you know, trip to Magaluf with the girls. And it's like seven of us. So it's not always just like three witches. Sometimes it's More. Sometimes it really depends on the friendships you form.
James Acaster
You know, how many are going to Magalu for witches? Seven or seven.
Sharon Wanjohi
It was meant to be seven. One dropped out yesterday, which is really annoying because we've kind of already paid for everything. But. Yeah, you know, she's trying to get eye of new at the moment, which is really hard. So, you know, we'll leave her to do her thing and just kind of send her pictures in the group chat, you know.
James Acaster
When you get the eye of newt, does it have to be alive, the newt, as you scoop it out?
Sharon Wanjohi
It depends on what you're trying to do with it. I think if it's, like, topical, I think it's better to have it powdered. Then you can control the kind of. We've really kind of. I'm actually thinking about it now. I'm like, where can I get Iovnu?
James Acaster
Yeah. No, I'd like to know about it.
Ed Gamble
I'm sure there's some shops you can get eye of new 100. Yeah. Witches are very in. Right. So are they. Yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
Is it the time of the witch?
Ed Gamble
Feels like it's the time of the witch.
James Acaster
I felt like the time of the witch was when that film came out.
Ed Gamble
Hocus Pocus.
Sharon Wanjohi
Which.
James Acaster
Not Hocus Pocus. Not the witch.
Sharon Wanjohi
The Lizzie McGuire Movie.
James Acaster
The Craft.
Ed Gamble
The craft, yeah.
James Acaster
Yeah. I'm thinking of the craft.
Ed Gamble
But now I think, like, a lot of people buy crystals and stuff and say they're a witch, right?
Sharon Wanjohi
Yeah. And I like that.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, you like that?
Sharon Wanjohi
I think it's fun.
Ed Gamble
You're a crystal lady.
Sharon Wanjohi
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
If I bought a tennis racket tomorrow, I'd tell everyone I was pro tennis. Why does it. Why does it change just because it's crystals?
James Acaster
What?
Sharon Wanjohi
Nobody needs to know.
Ed Gamble
I mean, tennis rackets work for the reason that they're made, though, right?
Sharon Wanjohi
Yeah. What are you saying about crystals?
Ed Gamble
Well, it's bullshit.
Sharon Wanjohi
Oh, I'm gonna curse you. I'm gonna curse you.
James Acaster
I'd say a tennis racket. Yeah. You can at least prove that it is a tennis racket by hitting a ball with it. And it works in a game of tennis. I'm not saying crystals don't work, but I'm just saying it's harder to go.
Ed Gamble
I'm just saying you can play tennis without charging your racket. In a full moon.
Sharon Wanjohi
You will both begin to turn blue in three days. This is a warning I've let you know.
James Acaster
If you say stuff like that, you sound like Jesus when he was 14. That's why he used to say the kids.
Sharon Wanjohi
He was right.
James Acaster
You keep bullying me. Do you want anything in that water? Do you want anything, Any ice? Any slice?
Ed Gamble
Apart from the frog's leg?
Sharon Wanjohi
No, I just want to just. Apart from the frogs?
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
I want to get straight to the water. I don't have to fight my way through ice. These giant ice cubes that are now suddenly popular. Can I just say, giant ice cubes need to get in the bin. Yeah, sorry. That's something I'm really passionate about. How dare you overload my. I've asked for a little bit of ice.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
Why am I just seeing ice in the car? Why am I chewing my drink? That's rude.
James Acaster
100 the other day. So, like I'm trying to stop drinking. Well, I, I've. I've stopped drinking for a bit. I mean, yeah, I'll go back to it.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
There's no way I'm. There's no way I'm quitting it forever. But I'm having a little break.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
Right. It's been about a month and I went somewhere and I'll try the, you know, alcohol free cocktails. I had a. No Groni. They brought it over with a block of ice in it that was like as big as the entire contents of the glass. Like, which is okay when it's a boozy drink. You kind of accept that. It's not okay really, but you accept it.
Sharon Wanjohi
Yeah.
James Acaster
When it's a mocktail, you really get fucked off.
Ed Gamble
Because that is the same price as.
James Acaster
A normal same price. There was hardly anything and it's basically just juice.
Sharon Wanjohi
Oh my God.
James Acaster
So like two sips and it's gone. And then the waiter turned up and I was, I was like, you know, I was a bit annoyed, but the waiter turned, went, oh, you finished that quickly. I went, yeah. All in was made in the ice. That's why.
Sharon Wanjohi
That's cheeky. They were taunting you. That was a social experiment to see if you'd say anything.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, I think, I mean, I get it with a booze cocktail, but I'd rather have no ice in it. Just give me a very cold glass. Warm alcohol, very cold glass. And then when you're shaking or mixing a cocktail, it gets a cold anyway, so freezing cold glass cocktail in there. And then because I'm necking it anyway, Sharon, it's going down quick. I don't need ice in there to keep it cold over the next half an hour when I drink it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just, just put the cold drink in my body as quickly as possible.
Sharon Wanjohi
You shake because you love alcohol so much. Yeah.
Ed Gamble
In the mornings.
James Acaster
Problems or bread? Problems or bread? Shabbat, Joey. Problems or bread? Switch around. Flip it.
Sharon Wanjohi
Gotta keep you guessing.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
Nino came out first.
Ed Gamble
The police knew what was coming. It was a sting.
Sharon Wanjohi
It felt right at the time.
James Acaster
A sting.
Sharon Wanjohi
It has to be bread. It has to be bread and it has to be hard bread. And I want the bread to not be very good. I think bread is a vehicle for butter. If I could. If I could say to the waiter, hey, just bring me a spoon and I'll get on with the butter. If that was socially acceptable, I would.
James Acaster
You just eat the butter with a spoon? We could do that for your. I mean, this is your dream meal.
Ed Gamble
This is your dream meal.
Sharon Wanjohi
Secret all the time. But I'm saying if society accepts. Accepted, it would be in a much better position, I think, just globally. Okay, so hard, stiff bread, that just cuts the inside of my mouth. Yeah, it's almost pain. It feels like a bush tucker trial. Like I'm struck. Like I'm crying. I'm like, why? Why am I doing this to myself? Soft, creamy, butter, fresh. I want to taste the other. Just spoonfuls of that. I want to taste the other. I want to taste the cow's name.
James Acaster
Well, listen, we can do that for you. We can have it that you just lick butter off of an udder if you like.
Sharon Wanjohi
Oh, my God.
James Acaster
You don't have to go through the rigmarole pretending you like bread or having that. We can just butter up a live cow's udder and you can have the whole. All the butter off of there and.
Ed Gamble
Don'T worry about it not being socially acceptable. This is your dream meal. So you don't have anyone there.
Sharon Wanjohi
Oh, okay. Empty restaurant. I'm just on the floor on my hands and knees. I imagine muddy for some reason. I know there's mud in there somewhere.
James Acaster
You want it?
Sharon Wanjohi
And I'm just licking. Soft, creamy.
Ed Gamble
But of the cow's order.
Sharon Wanjohi
That sounds like my next birthday plans, actually. That sounds incredible.
James Acaster
Happy birthday.
Ed Gamble
So you can taste the cow's name?
Sharon Wanjohi
Yes.
Ed Gamble
What's the cow's name?
Sharon Wanjohi
Ooh, where am I? Give me a location. Let's do a bit of improv.
James Acaster
Well, Newcastle.
Sharon Wanjohi
Yeah, Newcastle. I'm getting Penelope. Penelope.
James Acaster
Geordie name.
Sharon Wanjohi
I don't know any Geordie names.
Ed Gamble
Sounds good in Geordie, though.
Sharon Wanjohi
Penelope. Is that.
James Acaster
I mean, I'm not one to criticize.
Sharon Wanjohi
Accents, but that's what you do, a Newcastle accent.
Ed Gamble
Oh.
Sharon Wanjohi
It'S not as easy as it sounds, is It.
Ed Gamble
He really gets in his head with accents, Sharon.
James Acaster
Yeah, I do accents. Mean a lot to me.
Ed Gamble
Whenever we have actors on, he always asks them, how do you do? How do you do voices? He's always blown away by acting.
Sharon Wanjohi
How do you do voices?
James Acaster
No, I can't understand how people can do it.
Sharon Wanjohi
Do a little boy and he's just fallen down a well, but he's kind of happy about it. That's your prompt. Oh, I might have just fallen down a well.
Ed Gamble
Are you from Newcastle as well?
James Acaster
Oh, yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
Oh, I'm from Newcastle. I'm from Newcastle. I'm down a well.
Ed Gamble
The last thing. The last thing I'd shout if I was down a well was where I was from.
Sharon Wanjohi
Right then.
James Acaster
Anyone, you know, anyone else who kind of is from there will probably empathize with you, but get you out of the well. Yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
What if they're from Leeds? Would they just walk away from the well? Yeah, it's from Newcastle.
James Acaster
Yeah. Yeah, it could be, actually.
Sharon Wanjohi
You see the pitfalls of that year.
James Acaster
Driving a wedge there. So maybe. Maybe. I wouldn't say that. Surprised myself. About. Good. That was. That was really.
Sharon Wanjohi
That was actually.
James Acaster
Yeah, that was great. Sharon agrees.
Ed Gamble
Sharon, do you agree?
Sharon Wanjohi
I'm a guest, so I have to. I have to say yes.
James Acaster
Correct.
Sharon Wanjohi
I'm sorry, but with love.
James Acaster
You do your Newcastle.
Sharon Wanjohi
No.
James Acaster
Fair enough. We say yes to Shrek impressions.
Ed Gamble
I value people who come and see me in Newcastle, so I refuse to do it.
James Acaster
I value them as well. They know that I value them.
Ed Gamble
Oh, yeah, they know I value them. But I will always do their accent when I do gigs there as well.
Sharon Wanjohi
So you can do the accent?
James Acaster
Yeah, it's good accents.
Ed Gamble
No, but not under pressure. I'll be honest.
James Acaster
He is good at accents, though. I admire it when I don't see his stand up. He has a lot of voices.
Ed Gamble
I do do a lot of voices.
Sharon Wanjohi
He's doing problematic ones.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, I know. I stick to the. They're broadly white European.
Sharon Wanjohi
I'd say give us your best Malaysian accent.
Ed Gamble
Okay, here we go.
Sharon Wanjohi
And in 3, 2, 1.
James Acaster
We should do a hard cut to a sound effects first. Yeah, yeah.
Ed Gamble
Get Phil wang to record something and.
James Acaster
Then we'll drop it in any particular type of butter. Any brand that you'd like on this. And the cow's gonna be docile, by the way.
Ed Gamble
But this is.
James Acaster
But chilled out.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
There was never doubt in my mind that the cow would be up for it. I'd like to think they'd fill out couple forms and, you know, consent forms.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. I think so. And the cow's not, like, kicking around?
Sharon Wanjohi
No.
James Acaster
Okay.
Sharon Wanjohi
Why am I here?
Ed Gamble
Do you. So I take it when you say brand of butter, James, surely the butter is made from the milk that's come from the other that you're looking at?
Sharon Wanjohi
Yeah, 100%. I want the full experience.
James Acaster
I don't think so. Honest.
Sharon Wanjohi
To bond in that.
James Acaster
Get a pack of butter from the soup.
Sharon Wanjohi
Oh, my God. If I was a cow and you put someone else's butter on me, I'd start a revolution.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
I'd start campaigning. Yeah. I want.
Ed Gamble
It's kind of weird for the cow to have its own butter put back on its udder, I would say.
Sharon Wanjohi
I think it's kind of like a breastfeeding mom having milk around her nipple. It's kind of like, oh, that's a bit. It's not where it's meant to be.
Ed Gamble
But the milk's been taken away, put into butter form and then spread back.
James Acaster
On the mum's nipples and turning it into something greater. Breast milk. And then someone went away and made butter out of it and then put it back on her boobs. I think she'd be like, this is not the same as if the milk. Gone.
Sharon Wanjohi
Are you guys breastfeeding mothers?
Ed Gamble
That's true. We can't speak for.
Sharon Wanjohi
There we go.
James Acaster
I'm breastfeeding mothers. Someone's got to pay it forward. Goes down the chain.
Ed Gamble
It's not a satisfying experience for them, is it like a human centipede where.
Sharon Wanjohi
They'Re all just kind of hanging off the nipple before. That's an awful image.
Ed Gamble
That's good. I mean, it's. You know. If the makers of the Human centipede are looking for a sequel.
James Acaster
Yeah. Your dream starter.
Sharon Wanjohi
I want more bread. I want more bread. But now with things on the bread.
Ed Gamble
Okay, is this the bad bread again?
Sharon Wanjohi
No, no. Now, this is good bread.
Ed Gamble
Oh, no. So hang on, you didn't have bread in the. Popping them.
Sharon Wanjohi
So have it as like a vehicle.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
No, because you got the other. Because you got the other in the first one. So now this is. This is the first bit of bread you're having.
Sharon Wanjohi
Oh, in that case, I don't think I'd have bread.
James Acaster
What?
Sharon Wanjohi
I'd want bread times two.
James Acaster
You could have bread in the bread course as well. You know, if what you'd prefer is the bread, that's the vehicle for the butter. You don't want to have it off the cow's header. We were just trying to steer you towards what you were saying you would do. Definitely, yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
If it's an option, I'm not gonna say no. But if I'm, like, on a first date, for example, I'm not gonna bring my own cow with me. I think that'd be insane. So I would, like, fake the. I'd be like, this bread is so good. But actually, I'll have had five tubs of butter.
Ed Gamble
I really like your instinct, which was, I'm either having bread times two or no bread.
Sharon Wanjohi
Why would I have bread if I wasn't having bread before?
Ed Gamble
Because then you're having bread.
Sharon Wanjohi
No, bread is nice when you have more bread after, Right? When you're in anticipation of more bread.
Ed Gamble
Okay.
Sharon Wanjohi
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
But then you have to have bread, though, right?
Sharon Wanjohi
So you have to have bread before you have the bread. I. When I put.
Ed Gamble
You know. But the first time you have the bread, you haven't had any bread before that, have you?
Sharon Wanjohi
I think I'm kind of always in a state of having just had bread. I don't think I go more than two or three hours without having bread in my system.
Ed Gamble
Okay.
Sharon Wanjohi
Makes me feel off. So, like, I haven't taken my meds that day.
Ed Gamble
We'll give you some bread.
James Acaster
I don't know why you don't understand.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. Like, no, no, I've given up now. So we'll give you some bread with the udder.
Sharon Wanjohi
Yes.
Ed Gamble
But then your starter is more bread, but with things on it.
Sharon Wanjohi
With things on it.
Ed Gamble
And is this the bad. The bad bread?
Sharon Wanjohi
This is good bread.
Ed Gamble
This is good bread.
Sharon Wanjohi
This is delicious bread now. Yeah.
James Acaster
Is it important to you that you start with bad bread and then have good bread?
Sharon Wanjohi
Yes. Because you can't start with good bread and then go to bad bread. Because you're like, I've just had good bread. Now I'm having bad bread. What the heck? Yeah, what the heck.
James Acaster
You're spilling the out because of how Christian you are.
Ed Gamble
Talk us through the good bread.
Sharon Wanjohi
Good bread has to be soft in my mind when I'm eating it. I want to see, like, an old Italian man who just loves his kids, and he's always complaining, oh, Mario not do good in unique. And I want to hear him say that when I'm eating the bread and he has a mustache and he laughs. He has, like, a really big, jolly laugh.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
That's what I want to taste when I bite.
Ed Gamble
But Mario, no good. Do good.
Sharon Wanjohi
No do good uni.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
What course is Mario doing? You know, don't say plumbing.
Sharon Wanjohi
And I really wanted to.
James Acaster
I can tell.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
Graphic design, then. Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
Why isn't he doing good, though? Why isn't you doing.
Sharon Wanjohi
Why am I only just getting distracted? He's just getting distracted by all the pretty girls. Because graphic design has quite a few pretty girls in it.
James Acaster
Does it?
Sharon Wanjohi
It does. I think as university degrees go, it's pretty up there in terms of the fitbirds.
James Acaster
Wow.
Sharon Wanjohi
Oh. I instantly regret saying.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, yeah. So you want to imagine an old Italian man complaining that his son isn't doing well at university.
Sharon Wanjohi
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
That's the sort of bread you want?
Sharon Wanjohi
Absolutely, absolutely.
Ed Gamble
So, like, an Italian bread, like a focaccia or something?
Sharon Wanjohi
Have to be Italian? No, but the man making it has to be Italian.
Ed Gamble
Okay.
Sharon Wanjohi
And I need to taste that and I need to know. Mary's not doing good.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
Academically.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
What's on the bread?
Sharon Wanjohi
It depends on the cuisine. I think if I'm at an Italian restaurant, I want, like, you know, classic bruschetta. I want to say bruschetta. Maybe say bruschetta. Just want some tomatoes on that. Stop. A bit of olive. Are you crazy? Bit of sexy. Bit of olive oil. Yeah. Now we're talking. That's beautiful, that. A little bit of garlic. It. Why not Sunday?
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
Let's get a bit. Get a bit crazy with it.
James Acaster
I have. We ended up so, like you, a bit more sinister for this one. I think the cow's getting a bit scared.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
This is sinister.
James Acaster
Well, the way you just said that. Listen to it. Listen back to it when it goes out.
Sharon Wanjohi
I will.
James Acaster
Like, that's more of a sinister character than the person who was licking the cow's out of her.
Sharon Wanjohi
The cow's into it, though.
Ed Gamble
Is the cow there for the whole meal now?
Sharon Wanjohi
I'd like to think so. I think we go on the journey together. I think if someone was eating my butter off my breast, I'd want to stay for the rest of the meal and see how they got on.
Ed Gamble
And with the cow, like, I'd want to go home. Would the cow be eating as well with the cow? Be just chilling tomatoes on that bit.
Sharon Wanjohi
Probably do a couple rounds of, like. Are they on a first date? You know, just kind of have a good time.
Ed Gamble
She's just been licking the cow's tits, so I hope they know each other. It's a bit much for a first date, if anything.
James Acaster
And do you want the Italian man to be there as well?
Sharon Wanjohi
No, I actually want him to be in Italy, so we never cross paths, but I know he's out there. It's kind of like a Sophie Kinsella book where like, kind of. We're just like ships in the night.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
We're at airport at the same time. But I'm going to Italy, he's coming to London, for example. We just, you know, keep missing each other. Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
So I don't. I don't read many books, so. Because other books are there, people just like messing each other narrowly.
Sharon Wanjohi
It's like classic beach read romance. It's me and my boss don't get along, but actually he's gonna fuck me in this elevator in three weeks. Like, it's very like, wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
Ed Gamble
Well, so the character can predict what's gonna happen in the future.
Sharon Wanjohi
I like to think the readers can.
Ed Gamble
Oh, the reader can.
James Acaster
Oh, the reader can wait.
Sharon Wanjohi
Why was the character going, I'm gonna.
Ed Gamble
Be fucking three weeks. In three weeks, I'm gonna get fucked in this elevator.
James Acaster
Yeah. What a super good. It's quite a good opening paragraph to a book.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, yeah.
James Acaster
Me and my boss don'. But in three weeks I'm gonna. It.
Sharon Wanjohi
I like three chapters on my desk.
James Acaster
I'll be on board for that. Yeah, okay.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, but it's not that. It's. You just know there's an Italian man in the world.
Sharon Wanjohi
Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just. I feel his presence.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
Like, hold on. It's like when you smell your mom's perfume in Perfect. You're like, wait, that reminds me of something.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
James Acaster
If you ever meet, like an Italian man who's like in his teens or twenties is. Who's like saying about. Is struggling at university, do you ever ask them, can your dad bake?
Sharon Wanjohi
I mean, I haven't had the chance to so far, but now I'm gonna be on the lookout. I'm gonna add every Mario in London on Facebook and I'm gonna ask, what does your dad do for a living? That would be my opening line.
Ed Gamble
There's gotta be one.
Sharon Wanjohi
There's gotta be one.
Ed Gamble
There's gotta be one. Mario in London, whose dad's a baker.
Sharon Wanjohi
Has to be one.
James Acaster
Yeah, but he also, like, I think. I think you got to ask them, what does your dad do for a living? And are you keeping your grades? That's the two things you have to ask.
Sharon Wanjohi
Who are you?
James Acaster
And why are you looking for those things you don't waste your time with like, yeah, my dad's a baker. And then you're like, right, great, I want to meet your dad. And all this. And then you discover. Actually, they're top of their class. Really? Well, they're going to get first the teacher's pet.
Sharon Wanjohi
That would annoy me.
Ed Gamble
So if you find. I mean, basically you've got to say you've got to start going to your lectures because your dad's really worried and it's affecting his.
Sharon Wanjohi
No, because I think the fact that the dad is stressed means he's pouring that energy into the bread because he's.
Ed Gamble
Like, kneading the dough. Yeah, yeah, Mario.
Sharon Wanjohi
So I wouldn't want Mario to get his grades up. If anything, I'd be like, hey, like, I know a great number for cat. Yeah, go listen. I don't know. I wouldn't, you know, ask maybe like a youth.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, Yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
I wouldn't know. Yeah, but I would. Yeah, I'd ask for the number from someone who would know.
Ed Gamble
Yes.
Sharon Wanjohi
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
James Acaster
So you ruined Mario's life in order to improve his dad's bacon.
Sharon Wanjohi
People have done worse for less.
James Acaster
Yeah, absolutely. I think that story was cut out the Bible from Jesus. Doing it.
Sharon Wanjohi
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Ed Gamble
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Sharon Wanjohi
Main course for a main. I want my mother's cooking, but from the summer of 2007, specifically, I want it when I bite into this meal. So, like, Kenyan food is where I'm from in Kenya, tribe wise. It's very, like, earthy. It's very, like, mazy and grainy, and I love that. And all together, it's absolutely chef's kiss. I want it from 2007 specifically because there's something about, you know, your mother's cooking growing up, and you just remember, like, I don't know, it takes you back to that place. It's like that scene in Ratatouille. So I want to taste, like, the recession. I want to taste Groovy Chick. I want to taste basil brush. Like, I want to just bite into it and just have all those memories flood into my head.
Ed Gamble
So was your mum's cooking particularly good in 2007?
Sharon Wanjohi
100%.
Ed Gamble
Were you doing badly at school?
Sharon Wanjohi
Oh, my God. You've just made a great connection. I was really struggling with math.
Ed Gamble
There you go.
Sharon Wanjohi
It works. Was I the Mario all along?
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
Oh, my God.
James Acaster
Wow. What a twist.
Sharon Wanjohi
Guys, I'm coming out as a Mario. This is a platform to do it. Thank you. You're so supported.
Ed Gamble
So what were the things you want to taste? Recession, Basil brush.
Sharon Wanjohi
And Groovy Chick.
Ed Gamble
And Groovy Chick.
James Acaster
Specifically Groovy Chick. What was that?
Sharon Wanjohi
Groovy Chick was like Bratz or Barbie that kind of, like, this is marketed towards young girls. And it had this one blonde chick with.
Ed Gamble
I just remember it's on stationary a lot.
Sharon Wanjohi
A lot.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, yeah.
James Acaster
Oh, yeah.
Ed Gamble
I think you'd recognize the style of it.
Sharon Wanjohi
If you saw it, you'd be like, oh, yeah, I know that bitch.
James Acaster
She like, cartoon.
Sharon Wanjohi
Yes.
James Acaster
Skit. Really skinny.
Sharon Wanjohi
Yes.
James Acaster
Like, pencil thin almost.
Sharon Wanjohi
Yes.
James Acaster
Yeah, I know. Groovy.
Ed Gamble
What happened a lot now, because I guess it's, like, nostalgic now. Yeah, yeah. It's like retro.
Sharon Wanjohi
We get it.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
It was so cool when you're six, you know? I mean, I feel like the girls who are Groovy chick now would have bullied me back in the day, and I resent them for it.
Ed Gamble
Right.
Sharon Wanjohi
I hate women, by the way. I don't know.
James Acaster
You're in good company.
Sharon Wanjohi
Yes.
James Acaster
Women.
Ed Gamble
Bonita.
Sharon Wanjohi
I'm trying to get you guys canceled. This is great.
James Acaster
That soundbite canceled by women. We still got a lot of people listening to. The Fellas are looking. Let's keep listening.
Sharon Wanjohi
I didn't know I was on the Andrew Tate podcast. This is great.
James Acaster
He gets good numbers. So what is the actual dish?
Sharon Wanjohi
So I'd have, like. I don't know how to explain Kenyan food. Mokimo, which is like a mash with spinach and sometimes sweet corn or maize in it. And it's absolutely stunning. It's just like a mash, but with more flav. And then you have things like chapati, which is borrowed from India. There was a kind of a lot of crossover with the dishes of Kenya and India. I'd have a classic stew. Give me beef again. I want to taste the cow's name. Yeah, that's going to be a reoccurring.
Ed Gamble
Can I just check this isn't this same cow.
Sharon Wanjohi
No, this. Oh, God, no. And I wouldn't eat in front of her. Like, shield myself.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
I'd be like.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. Because if you taste the name and then it turns out that Penelope knew.
Sharon Wanjohi
Friends related. Maybe she hated. Maybe Penelope hated this particular cow. Yeah, that.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
Eat her again. I don't know. Something along.
James Acaster
Those could be a Kenyan cow.
Sharon Wanjohi
No, I'd feel bad, fellow countrymen. No, that's. That's awful. Maybe somewhere that he'd be a British cow. That'd be a good way to get.
James Acaster
Some sort of likelihood that Penelope's going to know it. She's from Newcastle, you know, trying to.
Sharon Wanjohi
Penelope's not from Newcastle. She just grew up there. Racially, she's black.
James Acaster
Yeah. So.
Sharon Wanjohi
And definitely African. Like, why would.
James Acaster
You shouldn't have assumed.
Sharon Wanjohi
How dare you? It whitewashed my history.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, Benito, I'll say it now and then you gotta go back and put it in. Okay. And what's Penelope racially. Drop that in.
James Acaster
Drop that in.
Ed Gamble
Just. Cause I don't wanna get in trouble. Forgot to ask where the cow was born.
James Acaster
Shaman should answer it. Or do you want me to? I can just jump in and go black, I imagine.
Sharon Wanjohi
Sound bite that.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
So just put it in like that.
Sharon Wanjohi
Oh, I hope AI gets a hold of that.
James Acaster
Yeah, yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
So the recent crimes.
James Acaster
Black eye.
Sharon Wanjohi
Imagine.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
Yeah, that's it. End of career. Shame of a place to be on the podcast. Everyone's happy. We plan all along. Yeah. What is the link between. When I. When I was in Kenya, which is only once, I had the best samosas I've ever had. Anyone to Kenya? Only once.
Sharon Wanjohi
What were you doing in Kenya?
James Acaster
My dad.
Sharon Wanjohi
Colonizing, I imagine.
James Acaster
Yeah, I was colonizing.
Sharon Wanjohi
Actually.
James Acaster
It went pretty well. When he was 23, my dad lived there for three years. He's a teacher there. So for his 50th, we all went back there to see the people that he used to work with. But there was this garage around the corner from where we were staying. The best samosas I've ever had. Like, just incredible.
Sharon Wanjohi
They are. Well.
James Acaster
And like, I think I think about them quite a lot.
Sharon Wanjohi
Oh, my God.
James Acaster
But like, I didn't know there was, like, when you just said then about the link between Indian food.
Sharon Wanjohi
There is also kind of like a mass migration in like. Like the 60s, 50s and 60s. So they bought a lot of food, which is nice. And it still exists in Kenya today. I think we just kind of borrowed a lot of like. Yep, we'll have that. That's tasty. So now that's Kenyan.
Ed Gamble
I've been to Kenya as well.
Sharon Wanjohi
Really?
James Acaster
What.
Sharon Wanjohi
What the hell are you guys doing in Kenya? What were you doing in Kenya?
Ed Gamble
Think of the poshest reason to go to Kenya.
Sharon Wanjohi
Safari.
Ed Gamble
Yep.
Sharon Wanjohi
Yeah, go on in. I'll have a couple elephants and I. Thank you.
James Acaster
Just climbing out the jeep with a bowl of butter. Going towards an elephant.
Ed Gamble
The amount of animals I let.
James Acaster
Butter.
Sharon Wanjohi
Sharon's hungry. What did you.
Ed Gamble
Most of the big ones. Sorry, most of the main ones. I'd say so.
Sharon Wanjohi
The big ones.
James Acaster
Yeah, the main ones.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, yeah, the main ones.
Sharon Wanjohi
What are the main ones?
Ed Gamble
Pigs.
James Acaster
I was hoping you're gonna say the main ones weren't lions.
Ed Gamble
Oh, that's good.
James Acaster
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
Wait.
Ed Gamble
Little.
James Acaster
That's a little. Little point about mains. The main ones. Oh, you know the main ones. Oh, sorry.
Ed Gamble
You really.
Sharon Wanjohi
You set me up there, and that's really embarrassing.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, sorry.
Sharon Wanjohi
I think you should quit comedy.
James Acaster
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You should quit comedy, too.
Sharon Wanjohi
I think you should move to Mexico. Now. That's really embarrassing.
James Acaster
We tell him this every week. Me and Benito say yeah, goes. I'd can't have a word. You should quit comedy.
Sharon Wanjohi
Book either plane tickets. Just leave.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, no one still books me for his stupid gigs.
James Acaster
Kenyan Fanta.
Sharon Wanjohi
You know about Kenya Fanta? Delicious, isn't it? Absolutely incredible. And it's orange. Yeah, it's like orange. You know the color orange?
Ed Gamble
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
It's. I don't know what they put in it, but it's like crack. And again, I've never done drugs, so I wouldn't know what that.
James Acaster
I wouldn't know what that is to drugs.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. You really keep letting this.
Sharon Wanjohi
It's like love crushing it and snorting it.
James Acaster
It's always a different drug every time as well.
Ed Gamble
We have talked. We've talked about Kenyan Fanta on. On this podcast before.
Sharon Wanjohi
With a Kenyan.
James Acaster
No, it's been people who have bought up Fanta in other African countries. And then I've said yes. I love Kenyan fantasy. You know, maybe some people have.
Ed Gamble
No. Nigerian fans has come up before.
James Acaster
Nigerian fans.
Sharon Wanjohi
Nigerian Fanta is incredible.
James Acaster
I think maybe. Maybe Kenya.
Sharon Wanjohi
No, you can buy that here.
James Acaster
No. Where.
Sharon Wanjohi
Yeah, in, like, the places where the white people aren't.
James Acaster
Oh. But as soon as I go there, it'll be finished.
Ed Gamble
The ultimate dilemma.
James Acaster
Yeah. Gentrification sometimes works against us.
Sharon Wanjohi
And then I'd probably pair it with, like, a watermelon elf bar, I think just as, like, a little palate cleanser. Yes.
James Acaster
What? Other than what elf Bar. What's an elf bar? I've never had an elf.
Sharon Wanjohi
A vape.
James Acaster
Oh, okay.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
Just to kind of like.
Ed Gamble
It's the first shout out for elf bars. We've had someone pick a lost Mary for.
Sharon Wanjohi
Oh, no. Lost Mary at the end of the meal. Surely, surely. Just to top it off nicely, I think in the middle of a meal, it's. It's way too intense.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
You've got to calm down there. Whoever said that needs to calm down. Maybe check in on them, because that. That is. Honestly, Michelle, that's.
Ed Gamble
I ain't checking in.
James Acaster
No, she said I was like Kramer. I said I was like Kramer's English cousin.
Ed Gamble
Oh, it was bad.
Sharon Wanjohi
How did you feel about that?
James Acaster
Oh, well, I couldn't argue about it because she just said you're like. Like there's an episode of Seinfeld and Kramer's English cousins coming to visit and Kramer's really stressed because they don't get on. But everyone keeps saying a Kramer, but you're exactly alike. So not only was it, like, spot on, she'd done me. But also completely Seinfeld episodes. Yeah. So it's, like, so good. That's it.
Sharon Wanjohi
She read you for film.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. So are you vaping while you're eating in between bites, or are you waiting until the end of the course?
Sharon Wanjohi
You finish the meal so you have the full experience and then you go in with an elf bar just to kind of palate cleanse.
Ed Gamble
It's a palate cleanser.
Sharon Wanjohi
It's a palate cleanser. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
James Acaster
Fantastic. At the start of the episode, you were like, I'm not really a connoisseur with food. This pairs with this, but with vapes, you're like, that's at the end of the meal, 100%, that is. After that, you have to match notes.
Sharon Wanjohi
So, like, I wouldn't have a watermelon elf bar with, say, a steak. That would be completely wrong.
Ed Gamble
What flavor vape would you pair with the steak?
Sharon Wanjohi
I imagine I'd go for something a bit more tart. Maybe a cherry if I'm feeling a bit adventurous.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
Perhaps a banana ice. But that is a bit crazy. I know, I know.
Ed Gamble
Cherry and steak. I completely understand. That's nice. Yeah. It's like a red wine.
Sharon Wanjohi
And that's why you're intelligent.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
That's why you're smart and amazing.
Ed Gamble
And nicotine.
James Acaster
He is addicted.
Ed Gamble
So hard. Me too. It's nice, isn't it?
Sharon Wanjohi
It's so great.
Ed Gamble
It's really nice.
Sharon Wanjohi
Oh, it's so Much fun. I don't care what anyone says. Everyone in this life has advice, Right? And it might be drugs, might not be, but it might also be nicotine. Might be working a lot. Might be watching Shrek over and over and over and over and over over again. So I think if it's nicotine, at.
James Acaster
Least not killing children.
Ed Gamble
Far too quick to say. Watching Shrek over and over and over again.
Sharon Wanjohi
No, I've never seen Shrek.
James Acaster
Right.
Ed Gamble
Is this like, you've never done drugs?
Sharon Wanjohi
Oh.
James Acaster
Do you want to know some freebase trivia about Shrek that I learned recently? Yes. Yeah. The gingerbread man.
Sharon Wanjohi
Yes.
James Acaster
Shrek. The person does the voice for that. When John Lithgow went in to film that scene, it was just a man put. Huh? Film record.
Ed Gamble
I got. I gotta break some bad news to you about Shrek, man.
Sharon Wanjohi
No, it's real. It's real. It's real. Yeah. When they went to film, when he.
James Acaster
Went in to record that scene, a member of the production team read the lines of the gingerbread man and they were so good at it that they just kept in that person. Oh, my God. It's not a voice actress. Someone who's working on.
Sharon Wanjohi
Do they sound like that? Is that their real voice?
James Acaster
Yes, as they're normal.
Sharon Wanjohi
Incredible.
Ed Gamble
Give us a quick blast of the gingerbread man.
Sharon Wanjohi
Not my gumdrop buttons.
Ed Gamble
It's good, isn't it?
Sharon Wanjohi
That is very good.
Ed Gamble
Wait till you hear his Shrek.
Sharon Wanjohi
I do want to hear Shrek.
Ed Gamble
Wait till you hear this.
James Acaster
Sharon, what do you want Shrek to be doing or saying? I want him to king butter or.
Ed Gamble
For cow's out of.
Sharon Wanjohi
Yes, yes. Perfect.
James Acaster
Donkey, I thought it was you. I didn't know it was a cow. Donkey, I thought it was you. Donkey. I swear I would never do that. I would never ever. Donkey. I would never, ever lick bottom of anyone else apart from you.
Ed Gamble
Do you like that? Sharon looks gobsmacked.
Sharon Wanjohi
I'm so lost for words. There are so many questions surging through my head right now.
Ed Gamble
And the answer to the first one is it was supposed to be Shrek.
Sharon Wanjohi
Vaguely Scottish man threatening to suck off a donkey.
James Acaster
It sounded like he's apologizing for not.
Sharon Wanjohi
Sucking off the donkey again.
James Acaster
Yeah, the donkey's caught him licking butt off a cow's at him and isn't happy about it.
Sharon Wanjohi
Is it in secret. I like the lights off and then.
James Acaster
Yeah, okay. In his swamp house or wherever Shrek lives.
Ed Gamble
When we did a live tour, quite often I would force James to do a Shrek impression on stage and I'd get the audience to do, like, improv, suggest, where's Shrek? What's he doing? And what sort of mood is Shrek in? And I'd say eight out of nine times that we did it.
James Acaster
Nine out of nine.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. Horny. They all said horny.
Sharon Wanjohi
Oh.
Ed Gamble
So I've seen James be horny Shrek more often than I thought I would.
Sharon Wanjohi
Oh, that's brilliant. I think that's art.
James Acaster
I didn't like it.
Ed Gamble
You didn't enjoy it. Which made it obviously funnier that you didn't enjoy it.
Sharon Wanjohi
I think all artists suffering had to.
James Acaster
Yes. And it's. It knew that it was good for the gig to just do it, but didn't like it.
Sharon Wanjohi
That's okay.
James Acaster
In his time and really resent it. And just think the audience we've got, is it these idiots. They know. They know I hate them.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, don't look shocked, Sharon.
Sharon Wanjohi
Okay.
Ed Gamble
They love it.
James Acaster
Yeah. They love it.
Ed Gamble
They love that James hates them.
Sharon Wanjohi
Oh, my God. Kind of sadistic.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
BDSM relationship do you have with your audience?
James Acaster
Yeah. If BDSM stood for brilliant. Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Burnt out quickly there.
Sharon Wanjohi
I was really. It started off very quickly. I was like, yeah, okay.
James Acaster
What?
Ed Gamble
Sexy.
Sharon Wanjohi
Brilliant.
Ed Gamble
It's coming up, mate. It'd be good if you planned in advance with this D. Douche.
Sharon Wanjohi
No, because you're not a douche. Deity. Elevate yourself. Oh, yeah, brilliant. Deity says. Says money. Money for all of you.
James Acaster
Yeah, that is what it is. Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
But the daddy says money.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. There you go. We got there in the end. That was worth it, wasn't it?
James Acaster
Dream side dish.
Sharon Wanjohi
Okay. I don't know if this is allowed. I don't know if this is in the rule book, but my dream dream side dish is, you know, when you go for a night out, you get up. I'm talking about up, like, kissing your cousin up. And then you go. You go.
Ed Gamble
Just gonna jump in now and say no. I don't know.
Sharon Wanjohi
We've all been there. Right, guys?
James Acaster
I know what you're about.
Sharon Wanjohi
Thanks, James.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
You're so supported by you. You go for a chippy and you get home, and you are just off your face, like, you fall asleep, kind of one tit hanging out of your short dress, chips in hand, lights on, one eyelash here, one eyelash on the wall. And then you wake up, like, an hour and a half later, and you.
James Acaster
Steven.
Sharon Wanjohi
But you're like, I didn't eat my chips. And they're kind of congealed and cold, and you can Taste the pigeon ankles. That I would have that as a side dish. They always slap.
Ed Gamble
James looks so sad.
James Acaster
Just sounds the most disgusting.
Sharon Wanjohi
I thought this was a loving, supportive podcast.
James Acaster
Yes.
Ed Gamble
Try to be weird. Weird that James supported you on kissing his cousin and backed out when it came to eating cold chips.
Sharon Wanjohi
Too much, though, actually. You're taking.
James Acaster
My cousin said, would you care for some cold chips? Like, shut up and come on. I mean, it sounds bad, Shannon. It doesn't sound. You've not made him sound nice.
Sharon Wanjohi
No. Because you have to be in that headspace. So it's not going to be nice when you're like, you've. I don't know, you're sober and you've just gone from picking strawberries or something wholesome. You have to be like, oh, I made some mistakes tonight, brother.
Ed Gamble
Like, starving, but still drunk.
Sharon Wanjohi
Yes. Yeah. Yep. Yep. You've got one heel on and the other one and God knows where it is.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
Who cares? Who cares at this point? Because you've got cold chips, you've got nuggets that taste a little bit like what you imagine pigeon would taste like. And you're happy in that moment. You're so happy and unaware of the world's problems and struggle. And it's just a beautiful moment. I think it's what it represents.
James Acaster
So how many nuggets you got in there?
Sharon Wanjohi
I want to say, like, five and a half at this point. Because you've had a couple on the walk over.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
You know, you've cat called some guys, made some really horrible, aggressive mistakes that night.
James Acaster
When you cat call some guys, what does that sound like? What are you shouting to them?
Sharon Wanjohi
See, now I feel like I have to say hum and a hum and a new.
James Acaster
Sure.
Sharon Wanjohi
But really, it'd be like, I like your ankles.
James Acaster
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
Call those earlobes. They have to be, like, slightly weird. Just. Huh. I want them to have a look at the surprise on their face.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. I mean, I'm not, you know, I'm trying to define what a cat call is, but. Do you call those earlobes? Doesn't feel like a cat call.
Sharon Wanjohi
Oh, trust me, if you want the receiving end of that.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
You'd go home crying.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
Probably back home for a bit.
James Acaster
So it's.
Sharon Wanjohi
This is what you heard at the.
James Acaster
Aim of cat call. It is to destroy someone.
Sharon Wanjohi
Not destroy, but just make them think for the next couple years, like, what did that mean? They're falling asleep at night, they're almost there. And then they're like, earlobes. Earlobes Earlobes. Earlobes.
James Acaster
So I would say, and I don't want to like tread all over your brand of cat calling, but I think traditionally they're not thinkers. Cat calls. Oh, no, they're not. Like people go home and go, what did that build up?
Ed Gamble
Yeah, exactly.
James Acaster
Mean when they said nice tits.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
Like it's aversive, pretty to the point.
Sharon Wanjohi
Yeah, yeah.
James Acaster
But you're, but you're saying the good. A good cat call makes you think, unravels someone.
Sharon Wanjohi
It makes you go. That alliteration on line two was. That was intentional.
Ed Gamble
Mine too.
Sharon Wanjohi
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
So you're hanging around for line two.
Sharon Wanjohi
This is a soliloquy, baby.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
I got to see where this goes.
Sharon Wanjohi
This is Shakespearean. Look at Shakespearean. In these streets getting all these.
James Acaster
Yeah, it's impressive.
Ed Gamble
I quite like the idea of the cold chips. I love that you're gonna be in a certain state of mind when you eat the side dish, which is difficult because it's a side dish. So you'd be eating the main.
Sharon Wanjohi
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
And then. So when you turn to the side dish, you suddenly feel a lot has.
Sharon Wanjohi
Happened between the main and the side dish.
Ed Gamble
So you're eating the whole main first and then eating the side.
Sharon Wanjohi
You're eating the whole main. It's really wholesome still in the restaurant at this point. And then someone goes, shall we, shall we fuck it? Should we go out? We're only young. Once you end up in a club that you've never heard of before. All the alcohol is non branded. You don't actually know what they're pouring you. It tastes kind of vaguely ethanol, but you're like, ah, this could be paint stripper.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
You're off your face, you're grinded to dubstep. It doesn't make any sense. Why are you gyrating your hips? It doesn't make sense. But you're having a fucking great time. You think, you know what? I had my main, it's time for my side dish. You go back to the restaurant now in this inebriated state. You have, you, you have the chips, they're hot. When they get to you, obviously a lot more goes down. Go back to the club. Right, because we're making a meal of this.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
Order more drinks. Suddenly you're in a smoking area with a guy who doesn't speak English, but you're having a full on conversation. It's beautiful. This is what the earth is about. This is we are the world. We are the. Do you know what I mean? It's Michael Jackson. Oh, my God, he's alive. You go back to the restaurant.
Ed Gamble
Michael Jackson's the guy. The guy in the smoking area.
Sharon Wanjohi
He's the guy in the smoking area.
Ed Gamble
But he can't speak.
Sharon Wanjohi
He doesn't speak any English at this point.
James Acaster
So he's come back to life, but he now can't speak English?
Sharon Wanjohi
No. He's been living away for a long time, so it's completely. It doesn't exist in his head anymore. Right.
Ed Gamble
Does the cow come to the club?
Sharon Wanjohi
Cow wouldn't come to the club. I think that'd be a bit much. That'd be stupid. Yeah, it'd be dumb. Yeah. Michael Jackson doesn't like cows, famously. So it just wouldn't make sense. Would.
James Acaster
Does sound. Ed, I'm gonna need you to find some positives here because it sounds like a wake in hell.
Ed Gamble
No, I think a lot of Sharon's menu is nostalgia and about moments in time.
Sharon Wanjohi
Thank you.
Ed Gamble
And I think what the cold chips signify is they may taste great in that moment. They're obviously not a great tasting thing, but they represent, you know, you've had an amazing time and, you know, you're just there.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Enjoying it.
Sharon Wanjohi
It's okay. Not everyone, you know, not everyone's a genius in their time. I like to think after I pass away, people were like, oh, my God, remember Sharon on that. On that off the menu podcast?
Ed Gamble
And then they'll meet you in the smoking area of a club and go.
Sharon Wanjohi
And I won't speak anything.
James Acaster
Sharon's alive.
Sharon Wanjohi
Yeah, yeah.
James Acaster
Comes alive and can't speak English.
Sharon Wanjohi
That Michael Jackson in the background.
James Acaster
What would you be talking to Michael Jackson about, do you think?
Sharon Wanjohi
I imagine, because at this point, he owns a corner shop, right. Kind of somewhere in St. John's Wood, and he's kind of just moved back into the area and he's like, you know, it's been hard for me. Back in my country of origin, I was a doctor. I've had to come here and set up a new business that.
Ed Gamble
Sharon, this isn't Michael Jackson, mate. This is so. This is not Michael Jackson.
Sharon Wanjohi
This is Michael Jackson because you're throwing a he. I am pretty hammered in something called. And I don't know what it is, but it does taste like it might kill me. So it might know. But I like to think it is Michael Jackson. He's just kind of.
James Acaster
Is it a reincarnation?
Sharon Wanjohi
No, no, no. This is. This is.
Ed Gamble
He's not saying. He's not saying he's Michael Jackson.
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That is a gamble money.
Ed Gamble
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James Acaster
Your dream drink.
Sharon Wanjohi
I want the strawberry Ribena from Pre what's his face who made sugar evil?
James Acaster
You might feel that way. He was doing it for your own good. He was trying to make it healthier for you.
Sharon Wanjohi
I want that at that stage of my life. I want it now.
James Acaster
I think it's great.
Sharon Wanjohi
Yeah, but no, you want to Pre Sugar Ribena.
Ed Gamble
You don't want it now because you're. You want to go back to the Ribena it was before.
Sharon Wanjohi
You don't understand it now.
Ed Gamble
You understand it now.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. See, this is another nostalgic dish. This is. This is nostalgia for certain times of your life.
Sharon Wanjohi
It's a crisp Ribena.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
I'm on a mudded bike and there's a boy I fancy two streets down. And I'm riding and I fall off and I scrape my knee. Ah. Ah. I go up to the boy. Hey, I scraped my knee.
Ed Gamble
This has got to be a clip because people have got to see Sharon's face when she's doing it.
James Acaster
I can't be on doing it.
Sharon Wanjohi
Yeah, I. I've never ridden a bike before, could I?
James Acaster
The disgust on your faces is not.
Sharon Wanjohi
Making me feel confident.
Ed Gamble
I just know I'm right. I think it's brilliant. But I'm also confused.
James Acaster
No, I'm not confused. I love. I'm like that.
Sharon Wanjohi
Are you in the moment with me?
Ed Gamble
Thank you.
Sharon Wanjohi
Oh, I don't have any plasters. That's okay. I might come back tomorrow. That's okay with you?
James Acaster
Welcome back.
Ed Gamble
Come back tomorrow with a scrape.
Sharon Wanjohi
Yeah. Because I'm eager.
Ed Gamble
No, but I thought you were coming back tomorrow for a plaster.
Sharon Wanjohi
No, I mean just to vibe. But in that moment, I'm embarrassed. I've just scraped my knee so you psych.
James Acaster
So. So let's recap. You're cycling on the street. You fall off the bike, scrape your knee. As a boy your age, two streets you can't fancy. But he's just, like, standing on the street. So he's just on the pavement.
Sharon Wanjohi
He's just chilling.
James Acaster
And you go up to him and say, I just scraped my knee.
Ed Gamble
In an American accent.
James Acaster
With the voice. With the voice. And he says, I don't have a plaster. You say, that's okay. I might come back tomorrow.
Sharon Wanjohi
Is there anything wrong with that?
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
So you didn't come back to the store.
Sharon Wanjohi
I'm embarrassed.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
The boy that I like has just seen me fall down on. Yeah, I'm nervous.
Ed Gamble
But I also like that you say, I've just scraped my knee. And his first thing he says is, I don't have any plasters, because he.
Sharon Wanjohi
Wants to be helpful. But he acknowledges that in the moment, he can't help.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
And I like that he's emotionally sensitive, I think, in. In this version of the thing, and he's okay with me doing a voice.
James Acaster
I like the voice.
Sharon Wanjohi
See, I did it on a date the other day, and she never texted me back. I think I killed it.
James Acaster
What? What? In what country?
Sharon Wanjohi
I was like. She was like, like, let's check in.
James Acaster
Uhhuh.
Sharon Wanjohi
How are you feeling about this date? And I was like, I like this date. You're very pretty. Should I have said that out loud? Oh, well. And then I thought.
Ed Gamble
It out.
James Acaster
Sharon, that's the worst thing I've ever heard anyone, anyone do on a first date. It's a first date. I mean, that's crazy.
Ed Gamble
You may as well have let butter off a cow's udder at that point.
James Acaster
Oh, my God.
Sharon Wanjohi
That would have been better.
James Acaster
I mean, don't get me wrong. I don't love. Let's check in. How's this day going? I don't love that either.
Sharon Wanjohi
I kind of like it. It's very Gen Z with two women on a date. How are you feeling?
Ed Gamble
Yeah. So you quite like it. But then. Then what you did. So let's dispense with that. Oh, James and I are millennials. James and I are millennials. We don't like the checking. Okay. The check in is too much. The check ins should be unspoken.
Sharon Wanjohi
So you draw the line.
James Acaster
Okay.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. So you like that.
James Acaster
Oh, my God.
Ed Gamble
But then why did you then do the infantilizing?
James Acaster
You became a little kid.
Sharon Wanjohi
I thought it'd be funny if I.
James Acaster
Was on a date and someone said, how's the date going? I went.
Sharon Wanjohi
Well, gee, I'm pretty good at guest man. I'd love that.
Ed Gamble
I hope I don't go toilet in my pants.
Sharon Wanjohi
That is not what I was doing. How. How dare you? I got butterflies in my stomach. I was being a big girl who watches way too much anime.
Ed Gamble
I gotta call my mommy and give her three rings.
Sharon Wanjohi
Oh, jeez. My heart's beating out of her chest. You're telling me you wouldn't like that.
James Acaster
But you said she was pretty in the voice. I love it.
Sharon Wanjohi
Funny.
James Acaster
It is funny. It's the best. I think it's hilarious.
Sharon Wanjohi
Apparently not.
Ed Gamble
It's funny hearing about it now.
James Acaster
What was her face doing when you did it?
Sharon Wanjohi
So I wasn't looking at her while I was doing it. I went to laugh being like, oh, no, don't cover your face. You're making this so much worse than it is.
Ed Gamble
She's just absolutely puking everywhere.
Sharon Wanjohi
She was like, you even look pretty when you puke now. This is turned into bullying.
James Acaster
Yeah. So you weren't looking at her?
Sharon Wanjohi
No.
Ed Gamble
You're looking down for the character of shy.
James Acaster
The character for the people just listen to. It always involves Sharon grabbing the back of her neck, like, nervously, like. Like. Like the kid in Stranger Things does when something's, like, creeping up. Yeah, he said something bad. So just, like, hand on the back of the neck and then looking down and then, like, vibrating and then making.
Ed Gamble
A noise which increasingly sounds like an Al Pacino impression.
James Acaster
Yeah. Yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
Take it. Adding that to the list. Day number two. Thank you very much.
Ed Gamble
So she's not got back in contact.
James Acaster
When was it?
Sharon Wanjohi
I want to say like three weeks ago now.
James Acaster
Oh, okay.
Sharon Wanjohi
Yeah, yeah. No, that's dead in the water. Yeah, it's fine. It's fine. I've cried my tears. Well, I guess you don't like me that much.
James Acaster
I love the character.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, the character's great.
James Acaster
I really like the character.
Ed Gamble
Really good. Very Rugrats I'd watch. Yeah.
James Acaster
Really Rugrats, actually.
Sharon Wanjohi
Thanks.
James Acaster
That's a millennial film.
Sharon Wanjohi
Oh, my God. I know.
James Acaster
What rock.
Sharon Wanjohi
How old do you think I am?
Ed Gamble
Well, you've proudly proclaimed yourself Gen Z, so.
Sharon Wanjohi
Yes, and I wear that with a badge of skibidi honor, thank you very much.
James Acaster
What's Gen Z? 20s? In your 20s?
Ed Gamble
Yeah, 20s. Yeah. But early, early 20s.
Sharon Wanjohi
I'll take it.
Ed Gamble
Okay.
Sharon Wanjohi
I'm actually 16. This is illegal, what you guys are doing.
Ed Gamble
We've had a 15. 15 year old on this podcast before.
Sharon Wanjohi
No, you haven't.
Ed Gamble
We have. From Stranger Things.
James Acaster
Oh, yeah, the kid who does that, actually.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, it's the kid who does that.
James Acaster
Very kid who does that. When you have 15, you've always. You do that. You. You're in the stranger things.
Sharon Wanjohi
I'm 15 in this.
Ed Gamble
In this you are when you're acting.
Sharon Wanjohi
I'm a grown man.
James Acaster
You were on that date. I'll tell you that.
Sharon Wanjohi
You weren't there. You don't know the facts.
James Acaster
We arrive at your dream dessert.
Sharon Wanjohi
Yes. I kind of like. I feel like this is a recent food trend. I like. I like the desserts that look like food, but they're cold. Like. Like the ice cream. Chicken ice cream, fried chicken. Or like a sweet past. Spaghetti bolognese.
Ed Gamble
I know what you mean. It's very sort of an online thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
Gonna die at 50.
Ed Gamble
It's kind of cool, though.
Sharon Wanjohi
I think it's.
Ed Gamble
The spaghetti's cool.
Sharon Wanjohi
So cool.
Ed Gamble
Just like the spaghetti. Like strands of ice cream, basically. Yeah. It looks like.
Sharon Wanjohi
It looks like you guys are tricking me. I'm like, huh, what's this? This should be savory, not sweet. And then it is sweet and it's delicious. And you're like, yes. You guys got me again.
Ed Gamble
I know. James wants to ask about this character now as well.
Sharon Wanjohi
This is not character. This is who I am.
James Acaster
Oh, fair enough. Nice to meet you. It was quite similar to the same. Quite similar to the date character. Yeah, yeah, a bit like that. Kind of same person but in a different environment.
Sharon Wanjohi
Yeah. This one is a child.
James Acaster
Where they've been kind of trick.
Ed Gamble
This one is.
Sharon Wanjohi
They do brownies.
Ed Gamble
What the heck?
Sharon Wanjohi
What the heck? Do you guys just swear? You're not supposed to do that. I think I'm gonna have to tell my mom.
James Acaster
Sorry, but do the. Do the American voice.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. It is quite similar to the other characters.
James Acaster
Yeah, Very similar voice. Yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
I think I just really enjoy the way that people.
James Acaster
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is good.
Sharon Wanjohi
Why am I single?
James Acaster
Yeah, I know what you mean. Like that food. I remember when I was a kid when first saw one of those, like, you know, foam burgers, those little sweets. I was so excited to eat it. Oh, Like, I couldn't wait to eat one of those, like, with all the different layers with the gummy, like, lettuce, tomato, tomato. The burger. The burger itself, actually, probably the least appealing part, agreed.
Ed Gamble
Of the sweet burger doesn't lend itself well to the gummy.
Sharon Wanjohi
We could do without it. It could. Could be a sandwich.
James Acaster
Could be a sandwich.
Sharon Wanjohi
Could be a sandwich. Were you like, is this gonna taste like burger or Were you like, oh, no, this is sweets.
James Acaster
I think I definitely thought, like, this is gonna taste like fruity sweets. But the burger part of it did make me. I go, I don't know what. That's good.
Sharon Wanjohi
What is that meant to be?
James Acaster
Yeah, like, the rest of it, even the bun looked quite sweet and foamy and nice. But the actual burger itself, I was like, I don't like. Hopefully that's like a cola thing or something.
Sharon Wanjohi
I don't either.
Ed Gamble
What's the name of the company that made those? Like. Like the ones that you see everywhere? Because it's, like, right at the front of my brain and I just need to scratch that itch.
James Acaster
Otherwise.
Sharon Wanjohi
Amazon.
James Acaster
Gummy zone.
Ed Gamble
No, it's not Gummy zone.
James Acaster
No, it's not Gummy zone. He's angry about that, so you've wasted his time.
Sharon Wanjohi
Gummy zone.
James Acaster
Benito's gonna. He's getting ready to tell you you should quit comedy.
Ed Gamble
It's normally after. You don't normally do that during tell.
James Acaster
He's gonna say it.
Ed Gamble
The fact it's coming at the end of the meal, does that ruin the trip?
Sharon Wanjohi
Like, no, because I think the way I would. The way I would approach this is. That's dessert number one. Because I'm tricking my brain into thinking, oh, like, I'm still eating savory food, so there's more space for it. Because I feel like your brain does this thing where you're like, oh, I'm quite full, actually, from the meal, but I still want dessert. You're like, let me just do the dessert, and then I'll. I'll have. I'll be in a food coma after. If you get dessert number one and it looks like savory food, your mind is like, oh, this is more food. Okay, we can create space for this, and then we can have dessert after. Haha. Silly brain. I've already had dessert. I'm only. I'm only gonna go and do it again, but this time you'll actually see what the dessert is. So it's more of like a mental, psychological. I feel like the CIA might have kind of.
Ed Gamble
James, did you follow that in any way whatsoever?
James Acaster
I just. I just find it very funny. Silly brain is what made me.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. I was really. I loved silly brain that you've also eaten it.
Sharon Wanjohi
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
And you've tasted it and you're silly, but your silly brain still thinks it's savory.
James Acaster
I'm not a silly brain.
Sharon Wanjohi
This is. This is a spag bowl, but it tastes sweet. I wonder what that's about. Let me just keep eating. I guess I'll get dessert after.
Ed Gamble
The character sneaking back in there. I think every time something with the finger comes, you go.
James Acaster
If you're honest, the character is 100% at the wheel. Now it's completely behind the wheel. But you're just resisting doing the voice because you want to disguise it as yourself. But you know, really, it's the. I guess this is maybe an ice cream of some description.
Sharon Wanjohi
Can we do the rest of it like this?
James Acaster
You can. You. You get it. The best thing. All I can think about is you want that date doing that.
Ed Gamble
You're. You're very. I can. All I can think of is you're very. You're very pretty. Looking at the floor.
James Acaster
Very pretty. But no. So you weren't saying you're very pretty. Is that you went, she sure is pretty. Or something you have to do like an assignment. You said it about her and then you were doing. So you're doing like a golem kind of thing of like, she's sure it's pretty. Did I just say that out loud? Oh, no. And I. It's. I. I love it so much. It's so great.
Sharon Wanjohi
I think it's a normal and fun and whimsical thing to do on a date. And if you guys disagree with that, that is absolutely.
Ed Gamble
There's at least three people who disagree with it. Me, James, and her.
James Acaster
Yeah, but she doesn't deserve you.
Sharon Wanjohi
That was fresh. If you said that in two months, I'd have been like, haha. But actually, that could have been my future wife. So that does sting.
Ed Gamble
No, it couldn't.
James Acaster
No.
Sharon Wanjohi
But only because she wasn't down to clown.
Ed Gamble
Yes, exactly. You need someone who's down to clown.
Sharon Wanjohi
I need someone to give it back.
James Acaster
You'll find someone who does like that kind of stuff and it'll be great.
Sharon Wanjohi
Great.
James Acaster
I know that'll be. And that'll be it for. And I'm a big supporter of people just going, I'm just gonna out the gate. Be exactly who I am.
Sharon Wanjohi
You have to. Why go on a date?
James Acaster
Don't waste any time.
Sharon Wanjohi
Did you want me to be like, yes, this meal is actually quite exquisite. I. I really enjoy the bed.
Ed Gamble
I absolutely think you would do that as well.
James Acaster
Same problem.
Sharon Wanjohi
Because I'm being a fancy lady. So she's like, oh, this has not.
Ed Gamble
Shown up as a fancy lady, though. You're just suddenly halfway through the meal turning into something else.
Sharon Wanjohi
I'd have to start off like that.
James Acaster
Yes.
Sharon Wanjohi
But if that's not what she wants. She wants me, and then she also wants the part of me that does find her pretty. You want the whole smorgasbord. It's boring of.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
I think, you know, I think it's best off out of this.
James Acaster
I don't think it's the fact.
Ed Gamble
I don't think she's right.
James Acaster
I'm sorry that I've brought us back here because I can't stop thinking about it. But, like, I don't think it's the fact that you said she was pretty. I think if you went. That's going really well, actually. And I think you're really beautiful. Nah, I don't think she would go. Not replying to this. I think it's the fact that you went in the character. I think it was the cat.
Sharon Wanjohi
Really?
James Acaster
Yeah. I like.
Ed Gamble
I get it.
Sharon Wanjohi
Thank you.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
I think, like, yeah, you will find someone who loves that character.
Sharon Wanjohi
Yeah.
James Acaster
And then it would be great.
Sharon Wanjohi
Thank you. That's very nice. And we'll just have, like, a little.
Ed Gamble
I think next time, turn up as the character from the get. Go scrape your knee outside.
Sharon Wanjohi
Oh, my God. So you do marketing, huh?
James Acaster
I want that character to get a sitcom immediately. If there are any commissioners listening to this.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
Just please give Sharon a sitcom where that is the character, but the character.
Ed Gamble
Has to live in just modern Britain, though.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
The character can't. Can't live in, like, 50s America. Clearly where they're from.
Sharon Wanjohi
My oyster card isn't working. They're just doing really mundane every day. Can I have a stamp, please? I wonder if he knows what I'm sending. No, we have to get away from this.
Ed Gamble
Okay. We are at the end of the episode, pretty much.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Ed Gamble
We've not got away from it successfully.
James Acaster
So what is the food? You want a spaghetti bolognese ice cream. Ice cream.
Sharon Wanjohi
I want the fried chicken ice cream. I want it to come in a bucket. I want to house it, and then I want to have finish it off with just a classic brownie.
James Acaster
Oh, hold on. So there's a brownie in there as.
Sharon Wanjohi
Well as in, like. That's dessert number two.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. Because you tricky brains.
Sharon Wanjohi
Tricky, silly, silly brain. Yeah.
Ed Gamble
What flavor is the ice cream? The actual fried chicken?
Sharon Wanjohi
Classic vanilla. Let's not get too crazy with it.
James Acaster
You know, does it have a little, like, fake drumstick that you can pick them up?
Sharon Wanjohi
You can literally pick them up and then bite into ice cream, which is a little bit inbred, but. But it's fun. Am I allowed to say that?
Ed Gamble
I don't know.
James Acaster
I Don't know. I've never heard anyone use it in that way before.
Sharon Wanjohi
I use it very lightly. It's actually honestly becoming a problem.
Ed Gamble
You know who else is in bread? Maria's dad.
James Acaster
What?
Ed Gamble
He's in bread.
James Acaster
Oh, he's in bread. Yeah. I thought you were going to say shaman because she was kissing her cousin earlier.
Sharon Wanjohi
I want to set the record very straight. I have never and will never kiss my cousin.
Ed Gamble
No, I think what you were saying is when you get so drunk but you could kiss yourself.
Sharon Wanjohi
Fly out the window. Yes. You see eye to eye.
Ed Gamble
You didn't say yes.
Sharon Wanjohi
You're just kissing your cousin. James, it sounds like you're just making on the rag. Yeah, well, she's very pretty. Are we right?
James Acaster
I think this is frowned upon.
Sharon Wanjohi
Your mom's my dad's brother, Right? No, this is bad. This is bad. Naughty. No more of this. I don't want that to be my legacy.
James Acaster
I'm gonna read your menu back to you now and see how you.
Ed Gamble
Will you be reading it back as yourself? James, you want sparkling water.
James Acaster
Pop it on some bread. You want soft, creamy butter smeared on Penelope's udder with some bad bread on the side.
Sharon Wanjohi
Perfect.
James Acaster
Because if you don't have the bad bread, you can't have your starter, which is good bread bruschetta made by an old Italian man whose son is not doing very good at uni. Main course, your mum's cooking from 2007. With a watermelon elf bar.
Sharon Wanjohi
Yeah.
James Acaster
As well, which you will have after. Side dish, congealed chips and five and a half nuggets from the night before.
Sharon Wanjohi
Amazing.
James Acaster
Drink a strawberry Riberina full of sugar.
Sharon Wanjohi
Yep.
James Acaster
And dessert? Fried chicken ice cream with a brownie.
Sharon Wanjohi
Perfect. I think that is the menu.
James Acaster
I would eat the dessert and the main course. Yeah, yeah.
Ed Gamble
In 2007 for sure.
James Acaster
Brushette is nice.
Ed Gamble
Yeah, yeah, Brushette is good.
James Acaster
Of course. Actually, to be honest, you'd eat all the reading about. I don't. I wouldn't want the chips. They do sound revolted.
Sharon Wanjohi
Wake up in the dead of night and you just have chips next to you and you're like, not for men.
Ed Gamble
Not for many years. But I would just go more disgusting and have cheesy chips that we could.
Sharon Wanjohi
You beautiful man.
Ed Gamble
With garlic sauce on the top.
Sharon Wanjohi
Oh, filthy.
James Acaster
Yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
Absolutely.
Ed Gamble
I've done that.
Sharon Wanjohi
Filthy.
Ed Gamble
Yeah. Yeah.
Sharon Wanjohi
That sounds incredible.
Ed Gamble
It reminds me of just being at university. Dad's baking some good bread.
Sharon Wanjohi
Obviously you're not doing very well.
Ed Gamble
I wake up, chips are on my chest. Keep going.
Sharon Wanjohi
Good.
Ed Gamble
There's a football sock on the smoke alarm.
James Acaster
Ed's dad is Pan Quittidian or whatever it's called.
Sharon Wanjohi
Really?
Ed Gamble
No, he's Andrew Gammon. Sharon, thank you very much for coming to the dream restaurant. You've been fantastic. Thank you. Oh, no, I don't like that one. Well, there we are. James. Oh, man, what a wild ride with Sharon.
James Acaster
We've had a few people do characters on this podcast, but that might be my favorite of all time.
Ed Gamble
Yes, very. I mean, at the best of episodes, towards the end of the year, there's normally a little section that Benito puts together of characters that people have done.
James Acaster
Yep.
Ed Gamble
That'll definitely be in there.
James Acaster
That's gonna have its own section.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
I don't want any. Any part of that on the cutting room floor. When it comes to the best stuff.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
I would watch that character for hours.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
Very funny to be in the presence of that character.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
Every time Sharon became that character, it's like everything. Her whole physicality changed and mannerisms. Really, really good. The hand on the back of the neck, man. The whole thing.
Ed Gamble
Thing. Also, Sharon did not say anything. As long as it's good.
James Acaster
Yeah. It didn't say that.
Ed Gamble
No. Because she turned up with notes. She had notes.
James Acaster
She listened to the podcast before.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
And we appreciate that.
Ed Gamble
Yes, absolutely. So do go and see Sharon at the Edinburgh Festival at the Pleasants.
James Acaster
Yes. Or just if you're not going to the Edinburgh Festival, go and see Sharon at a gig near you.
Ed Gamble
Yeah.
James Acaster
I'm sure you find out where she's.
Ed Gamble
Doing lots of gigs, follow her on social media, do all that jazz.
James Acaster
Absolutely.
Ed Gamble
And go and see her. But for now, we will see you. But for now, we will see you next week.
James Acaster
But for now, we will see you next week.
Ed Gamble
Doesn't make sense, does it?
James Acaster
You should quit comedy.
Ed Gamble
Oh, no deal.
Podcast Title: Off Menu with Ed Gamble and James Acaster
Episode: Sharon Wanjohi
Release Date: July 30, 2025
Host/Author: Plosive
In this episode of Off Menu, hosts Ed Gamble and James Acaster welcome the vibrant and talented comedian Sharon Wanjohi to their whimsical dream restaurant. The episode delves into Sharon's unique comedic style, her inspirations, and her carefully curated dream meal, blending humor with heartfelt insights.
Ed Gamble kicks off the conversation with enthusiasm:
"Sharon Wanjohi, a wonderful comic. Sharon is absolutely brilliant. I've gigged with her a few times. She's always fantastic. She's got a great vibe." ([03:08])
James Acaster echoes the sentiment, adding his admiration:
"I've watched her videos on YouTube, think she's very funny, and heard so many good things from so many comedians. I'm very excited to actually finally be in the room." ([03:12])
Sharon Wanjohi enthusiastically shares her dream meal, which serves as the backbone of the episode. The selection process is both humorous and imaginative, reflecting Sharon's creative personality.
Sharon opens with a nostalgic twist on a classic dish:
"I want to start with bad bread as a vehicle for butter. If I could say, 'I ate a whalefin,' I'd just have a spoonful of that." ([23:35])
The hosts engage in a playful dialogue about the nature of the bread and its symbolic significance in Sharon's menu.
Sharon's choice for the main course is deeply personal and evocative:
"I want my mother's cooking, but from the summer of 2007, specifically. Kenyan food is where I'm from, tribe-wise. It's very earthy, mazy, and grainy. It's absolutely chef's kiss." ([31:10])
The conversation touches on multicultural influences in Kenyan cuisine and Sharon's fond memories associated with her mother's dishes.
Sharon humorously describes her unconventional side dish:
"I want to have congealed chips and five and a half nuggets from the night before." ([46:38])
This choice sparks laughter and further creative elaboration from the hosts, highlighting the playful nature of the show.
Sharon's dessert selection pushes the boundaries of traditional pairings:
"I want fried chicken ice cream in a bucket, topped off with a classic brownie." ([67:02])
The hosts express amusement and curiosity, appreciating Sharon's bold and imaginative approach to dessert.
Sharon's drink choice is a nostalgic nod to her past:
"I want the strawberry Ribena from before sugar was made evil." ([52:27])
This selection ties back to her earlier discussions about memories and the impact of branding on personal preferences.
Throughout the episode, Sharon engages in various humorous skits and character portrayals that add depth and entertainment to the conversation. These segments showcase her versatility and ability to weave storytelling with humor.
Sharon delves into playful roleplaying scenarios, such as impersonating an Italian man whose son struggles at university, and a narrative involving Michael Jackson in a club setting. These segments emphasize her comedic talent and creative imagination.
"If I was at a house party and I could turn water to wine, I'd be doing that to humans, mate." ([10:31])
Sharon's selections for her dream menu are deeply intertwined with her personal memories and cultural heritage, offering listeners a glimpse into her background and influences.
"I want to taste the recession. I want to taste Groovy Chick. I want to taste basil brush." ([32:56])
This reflects how food can evoke powerful memories and emotions, a theme that resonates throughout the episode.
Ed and James maintain a light-hearted and humorous tone, often teasing Sharon and each other, which adds to the engaging and entertaining atmosphere of the podcast.
"You have to be in that headspace. So it's not going to be nice when you're like, you've just had your main, it's time for my side dish." ([48:25])
James Acaster: "If Sharon says the secret ingredient is 'anything that's good,' we'll be kicking her out of the dream restaurant." ([03:53])
Sharon Wanjohi: "I eat food. If it looks good, I'm eating it." ([07:03])
Ed Gamble: "This is the first bit of bread you're having." ([23:35])
Sharon Wanjohi: "Fried chicken ice cream sounds incredible." ([66:37])
James Acaster: "You've got to keep your heads down for these parts of the meal." ([24:22])
The episode concludes with Ed and James praising Sharon for her creativity and comedic prowess, encouraging listeners to support her upcoming shows, including her debut at the Edinburgh Fringe.
"We've had a few people do characters on this podcast, but that might be my favorite of all time. So do go and see Sharon at the Edinburgh Festival at the Pleasants." ([69:56])
Ed Gamble and James Acaster wrap up the episode with a blend of humor and genuine appreciation for their guest, reinforcing the inviting and entertaining spirit of Off Menu.
This episode of Off Menu offers a delightful mix of humor, creativity, and heartfelt storytelling. Sharon Wanjohi brings a fresh and imaginative perspective to the dream meal concept, making it a memorable and engaging listen for fans of the show and newcomers alike.