A Look Back on a Conversation with Billie Eilish

Summary

Podcast Summary: Office Ladies – "A Look Back on a Conversation with Billie Eilish"

Release Date: August 6, 2025

In this special episode of Office Ladies, hosts Jenna Fischer and Angela Kinsey engage in an insightful and heartfelt conversation with Grammy-winning artist Billie Eilish. As avid fans of both The Office and Eilish's music, the trio explores the deep connections between the show and the artist's personal and professional life.

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Introduction to Billie Eilish's Love for The Office

The episode kicks off with Jenna and Angela expressing their excitement about having Billie Eilish as a guest. They highlight Eilish's impressive achievements, including multiple Grammys and an Academy Award, establishing her prominence in the music industry.

Jenna Fischer [04:08]: "I can't believe it. You guys obviously know Billie Eilish from her amazing music career at just 20 years old, she has won multiple Grammys."

Billie shares her longstanding admiration for The Office, recounting how the show was a constant presence during her childhood, influencing her understanding and appreciation of humor and relationships.

Billie Eilish [09:21]: "I just knew about it forever. It was like you learn to speak and you don't. There's not like a day that you learn to speak."

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Favorite Episodes and Memorable Moments

Billie discusses her favorite episodes, particularly "Beach Games," where a poignant scene involving Andy’s emotional vulnerability resonates deeply with her.

Billie Eilish [13:16]: "One of my favorites was Beach Games. That scene where Andy is in the sumo suit, floating and feeling so sad, really gets me."

Jenna echoes Billie’s sentiments, highlighting the emotional depth of the episode and the authenticity that Ed Helms brings to his character.

Jenna Fischer [14:26]: "It was cold. Super, super cold."

Angela shares her own favorite episodes, mentioning the Christmas specials and the episode "Dundies," which was particularly challenging and fun to film.

Angela Kinsey [16:07]: "We were just in that one room at Dundies, hanging in the restaurant for 12 hours. It was just fun and funny and nonstop."

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Behind-the-Scenes Insights and Personal Connections

The conversation delves into personal anecdotes from Jenna and Angela’s experiences filming The Office, offering listeners exclusive behind-the-scenes stories. Billie relates these stories to her own life, emphasizing how the show has influenced her personal relationships and creative processes.

Billie Eilish [21:08]: "I've noticed in my life that I get excited and tend to lie to myself about how I really feel. So I've been journaling to be honest with myself."

Jenna reveals her personal practice of journaling and the trust between her and Angela to keep her private thoughts secure.

Jenna Fischer [22:41]: "I have an agreement with Angela. They're in a special cabinet. And I show Angela where they were. If anything happens to me, it's her job to go in and burn the journals."

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Impact of The Office on Billie Eilish's Life and Creativity

Billie discusses how The Office has become an integral part of her daily life, often using scenes and quotes from the show to navigate personal challenges and conversations.

Billie Eilish [61:38]: "The Office is like a sacred part of my personality and so much of who I am. I base a lot of my life situations on TV shows and scenes from stuff."

She elaborates on how specific scenes help her articulate her feelings and experiences, showcasing the profound influence of the show on her personal development.

Billie Eilish [62:53]: "When people ask about The Office, it's sacred to me. It's a deep part of who I am."

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Collaborative Fun: Office Quiz and Reenactments

The hosts and Billie engage in a lively Office-themed quiz, testing each other's knowledge of the show. The playful competition highlights their deep familiarity and affection for the series.

Angela Kinsey [70:38]: "Office quiz with Billie Eilish."

Jenna and Angela navigate through various questions, reflecting their extensive knowledge and Billie’s impressive recall, even though she occasionally stumbles on more obscure details.

Billie Eilish [72:02]: "Yes, I knew 'suck it' was on it."

Their camaraderie and shared passion for The Office create an entertaining and engaging dynamic, offering listeners a blend of nostalgia and fresh perspectives.

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Closing Thoughts and Future Engagements

As the episode wraps up, Jenna and Angela express their gratitude to Billie for joining them, emphasizing the mutual respect and admiration between the hosts and the guest. They hint at future collaborations and continued discussions about The Office and its impact.

Jenna Fischer [76:38]: "So sad. But I will give you a point for as many names as you can come up with this question."

Billie Eilish [77:06]: "Thank you for listening to Office Ladies. We'll come back whenever you want me to. Yay."

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Angela Kinsey [00:00]: "What does feeling safe at home really mean to you?"

• Jenna Fischer [04:08]: "You have probably won it. She also is a director."

• Billie Eilish [09:21]: "I just knew about it forever."

• Angela Kinsey [16:07]: "And then I got to walk across the hot coals."

• Jenna Fischer [22:41]: "And if anything happens to me, it is Angela's job to burn the journals."

• Billie Eilish [61:38]: "The Office is like a sacred part of my personality."

• Angela Kinsey [70:38]: "Office quiz with Billie Eilish."

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This episode offers a unique blend of celebrity insight and beloved television nostalgia, providing fans new and old with a deeper understanding of both The Office and Billie Eilish's personal journey influenced by the show.

Transcript

[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

Hello from my Airbnb. I am staying in an Airbnb while I'm in Chicago doing my play.

[Angela Kinsey]

That's right. You said it was great because your family was joining you for part of that time and you wanted a home.

[Jenna Fischer]

I did, because we're going to be here for a little while. But you know, I have used Airbnb for shorter trips as well.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. Are you ready for this?

[Jenna Fischer]

What?

[Angela Kinsey]

So one of my mom friends at the school, she went to Iceland with her kids and they got an Airbnb in Iceland. In Iceland.

[Jenna Fischer]

Wow.

[Angela Kinsey]

I was like, okay, you're going to have to tell me which one that is because that looked amazing.

[Jenna Fischer]

Some trips are better in an Airbnb if you're traveling with a big group of friends, maybe a larger extended family if you want to get into a more local experience. I like it for this reason.

[Angela Kinsey]

And here's the thing, also, if you've got a great space that you know people would love, you can Airbnb your home while you go and stay somewhere else.

[Billie Eilish]

Yes.

[Jenna Fischer]

And who knows, maybe I'll come stay in your place. Your home might be worth more than you think. Find out how [e-mail] host. I'm Jenna Fisher.

[Angela Kinsey]

And I'm Angela Kinsey.

[Jenna Fischer]

We were on the Office together and we're best friends. And now we're doing the ultimate Office Rewatch podcast just for you.

[Angela Kinsey]

We will break down an episode of the Office and give exclusive behind the scenes stories that only two people who were there can tell you.

[Jenna Fischer]

We're the Office Ladies. Hello, everybody.

[Billie Eilish]

Hi.

[Jenna Fischer]

We are very excited about today's episode. So we have arrived in our rewatch to threat level midnight, but we are not breaking that down this week. No, we're actually going to be breaking that down next week with writer BJ Novak.

[Billie Eilish]

Yes.

[Jenna Fischer]

So if you do not already subscribe to Office Ladies, you might want to hit that subscribe button so you don't miss that one.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes. And go over to Office Ladies on Instagram because we're going to be posting lots of photos and behind the scenes stuff. But I think we need to talk about what's about to happen today. This week, we thought we might reach out to someone who loved this episode of the Office and is a huge Office fan. So much so she even sampled the episode in one of her songs.

[Jenna Fischer]

Let's hear it. No, Billy, I haven't done that dance.

[Billie Eilish]

Since my wife died. There's a whole crowd of people out there who need to learn how to do the scar. Don't ask questions you don't want to know Learn my lesson Way too be talking to you But I don't know should have taken a break not an extra coma Take what I want when I wanna and I want you that's right.

[Jenna Fischer]

Billie Eilish is in the studio today to have a conversation with us about her love of the Office.

[Billie Eilish]

Oh, my gosh. I know.

[Jenna Fischer]

I can't believe it. You guys obviously know Billie Eilish from her amazing music career at just 20 years old, she has won multiple Grammys. She's won an Academy Award.

[Angela Kinsey]

I mean, People's Choice Awards, Kids Choice Awards, Billboard Music Awards, I heart Music Awards.

[Jenna Fischer]

Name an award and she has probably won it. She also is a director. She directs her music videos. She has a book. She has a fragrance. Her new album is called Happier Than Ever. It is out now. You can find out about all this stuff on her website, Billie eilish.com including her tour dates.

[Angela Kinsey]

And she's a super fan of the Office.

[Jenna Fischer]

Like super fan.

[Angela Kinsey]

Super, super fan. And we are super fans of hers.

[Jenna Fischer]

So much so that we brought our kids in today.

[Billie Eilish]

Yes.

[Jenna Fischer]

Here they are. They're in the studio. You guys want to say hi?

[Billie Eilish]

Hi. Hi. Hi. Hello.

[Angela Kinsey]

Hi.

[Billie Eilish]

Those are our kiddos. Yay.

[Jenna Fischer]

Are you guys excited to meet Billy? Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

We are too.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. For about a year now. Harper, you've been asking me what, what have you.

[Billie Eilish]

When can we meet Billy?

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. You said If Billie ever comes on the podcast, can I please come meet her?

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, we should probably scooch on out of here because we just got a text that she's moments away.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay, let's take a break and when we come back, Billie Eilish is gonna be here.

[Billie Eilish]

Woo hoo. Yay. Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Billie Eilish]

Hello, it's Lena Dunham. I host a podcast called the C Word with my dearest friend and historian of bad behavior, Alyssa Bennett.

[Jenna Fischer]

What is a?

[Billie Eilish]

It's a chat show about women whose society is called crazy.

[Angela Kinsey]

We're going to be rediscovering the stories.

[Jenna Fischer]

Of women's society dismissed by calling them mad, sad or just plain bad.

[Billie Eilish]

Listen to and follow the C Word with Lena Dunham and Alyssa Bennett. Available now.

[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

It sure does.

[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

Same.

[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

See store associate for details. Billie Eilish is here today on Office Lady.

[Jenna Fischer]

Billie Eilish is here.

[Billie Eilish]

Here, I'm here. Hi guys.

[Jenna Fischer]

Thank you for coming.

[Angela Kinsey]

Thank you for having me in studio.

[Billie Eilish]

Right here, right with us.

[Jenna Fischer]

We're really excited to talk all things office with you.

[Billie Eilish]

Oh, me too.

[Jenna Fischer]

Where should we start?

[Billie Eilish]

Oh my gosh, wherever you would like.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay, I'm going to kick us off. How did you discover the office? Was it with your family? Did you watch it with your folks?

[Billie Eilish]

Well, okay, so as a little kid when this was all starting, I didn't watch it as a kid because it started not a kid show. But it's super appropriate. No, it's not. But I would hear it all the time and I would hear people talk about it and that's what she said was constantly being said. And I remember it was a really big part of my childhood was not understanding what that's what she said meant. Oh no. And I'd get very, very frustrated and I would ask people, what does that mean? And you would explain it to me. I don't ever remember hearing the first time about the office. Like it was just. I just knew about it forever.

[Angela Kinsey]

It was like the beginning.

[Billie Eilish]

Yeah, I don't remember. I don't remember finding it. I don't remember hearing about. I just, it was just part of life. It was like you learn to speak and you don't. There's not like a day that you learn to speak. You're just speaking, you know what I'm saying? So that was kind of with the office and then I just didn't understand that's what she said. And I remember there was a specific moment, I must have been nine years old and I was sitting in my kitchen and my mom had a bunch of people over that I didn't really know. And somebody said something and somebody said that's what she said and everybody laughed. And I remember understanding it for the first time and being like, fucking go. I figured it out. And then that was like. I was like, okay, got it.

[Angela Kinsey]

And then you were like, twss.

[Billie Eilish]

Got it. Yes. And then I got, like, into that. And then I must have started watching it when I was probably 11.

[Jenna Fischer]

Do you remember the first episode you saw?

[Billie Eilish]

I think I started it from the beginning. Really? I've seen it now, I believe, about 30 times.

[Angela Kinsey]

30 times?

[Billie Eilish]

All the way through.

[Angela Kinsey]

You're a purist.

[Billie Eilish]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Do you only watch it in order? Do you skip around?

[Billie Eilish]

Sometimes I skip specific episodes.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, I can't wait to hear that.

[Billie Eilish]

It's honestly like Scott's tots. I can't handle it.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, is that the cringiest for you?

[Billie Eilish]

Can't do it.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's so cringe.

[Billie Eilish]

Just the secondhand embarrassment. I just can't handle it.

[Jenna Fischer]

When we've been doing our rewatch, the one that hit me hard was Prince Family Paper.

[Billie Eilish]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

That broke my heart.

[Jenna Fischer]

When they take down that sweet family.

[Billie Eilish]

Paper company and how bad he feels about it. I mean, heartbreaking.

[Jenna Fischer]

I don't think I could. I think I'd have to skip it. That was hard for me.

[Billie Eilish]

Well, so for you guys, have you guys watched it all the way through fully, or. No.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay. This might break your story.

[Billie Eilish]

No, no, it's okay. I get it.

[Angela Kinsey]

We are rewatching it for the first time all the way through together. I mean, we'll catch an episode here or there, like on a plane, or maybe it'll come up on Comedy Central or. You know what I mean, over the years. But this is the first time I have sat down and actually done a full rewatch.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. Watched it in order from beginning to end. When it originally aired, we would get together as a cast, and we would have CA on Thursday nights and watched in each other's living rooms. And so I saw most of the episodes then, but I didn't watch every single episode. And so there's gonna be a few that I haven't seen before. I'll be seeing them for the first time, which is crazy.

[Angela Kinsey]

It is crazy.

[Billie Eilish]

Oh, my God. You haven't seen all of them?

[Jenna Fischer]

Not all of them. I would say 98%.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. We tried to watch every one when they aired, but it is very surreal. Cause you're watching a version of you from. Oh, my God. What is it, 15 years ago?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

You know, I mean, who was the kid that came up to you and was like, you look like an older version of Pam.

[Jenna Fischer]

And you were like, I am an older version of Pam.

[Billie Eilish]

Oh, no. He said, when was that?

[Jenna Fischer]

I was in a Target. And he was like, I am sorry. Has anyone ever told you you look like an older version of the person who played Pam on the Office? And I said, I am an older version of the person who played Pam on the. And he kind of didn't believe me. He wasn't sure.

[Billie Eilish]

But this happens.

[Jenna Fischer]

I mean, a lot of people discover the show through streaming and don't really have a concept of, like, how old it is, how far it goes back.

[Billie Eilish]

I know. Cause it hasn't really aged. I don't feel like it's aged much. It doesn't feel like an old show to me. There's some shows you watch, and it's like, this feels old. I mean, maybe like, people. Because of the way the world is, it's aged.

[Angela Kinsey]

In terms of humor, we say entertainment was a timestamp of when it was made.

[Billie Eilish]

That's all I think it would be. But it hasn't aged. It's aged very well, in my opinion.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, it holds up.

[Billie Eilish]

It does, right?

[Angela Kinsey]

It cracks me up.

[Jenna Fischer]

Billie, I have a question. This is from my daughter, Harper. She would like to know, if you could only watch one episode of the Office for the rest of your life, which one would it be?

[Billie Eilish]

Oh, my God. I wouldn't want to watch just one for the rest of my life. I've thought about this a lot, though, honestly, rewatching it. I just. I fall in love with different parts of it and different episodes every time. But my. My favorite. Kind of. One of my favorites was my favorite for a long time was. Was Beach Games. That. That one really gets me. You know, it just gets me that the scene where actually. The scene where Andy is in the sumo suit, floating. He's, like, so sad, and it's this really heart. He's, like, slow, like. He's like, look. Oh, it, like, hurts my stomach, like, the way he's looking at the water. And he slowly just wants to touch the water. And then he falls in. And then you're there.

[Angela Kinsey]

You're like, I can't hear you. What? He's like, get help.

[Jenna Fischer]

Poor Ed Helms, you know, that's really Ed in all. Even when he's floating far away. It was not a double. He just flew. Floated Ed out in that river.

[Angela Kinsey]

There was a man in a little, like, rowboat thing with a rope tied to Ed, and he would, like, pull him out.

[Billie Eilish]

Oh, my God.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know.

[Jenna Fischer]

I loved that. I got to walk across the hot coals.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know.

[Billie Eilish]

Was it actually hot coals?

[Jenna Fischer]

No. Did I make you believe it was?

[Billie Eilish]

Yeah, you did.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, tell me what it was, because I think it's just as painful.

[Jenna Fischer]

It was. So it was like real lava rocks over. They dug a ditch in the ground, and then they kind of filled it with some lights with gels to give it that glow. And then on top of that, they put, like, real lava rocks, and then along the side were real flames, so.

[Billie Eilish]

Oh, so it was still really warm.

[Jenna Fischer]

It was sort of warm. Like, they were very specific. Do not get near the edges of this firewalk thing. This coal walk.

[Billie Eilish]

You saw your bare feet on little sharp little rocks. Thank you.

[Jenna Fischer]

I say it was like running over a bunch of Lego.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Eek. That feels. So it was painful, but not. Cause it was hot. Just because it was, like, digging into my feet.

[Billie Eilish]

Yeah. And how many times did you do it?

[Jenna Fischer]

I think we did about three takes.

[Billie Eilish]

Okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. So not too bad.

[Billie Eilish]

Pretty good.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. And it was cold. Super, super cold.

[Angela Kinsey]

So cold.

[Billie Eilish]

What was your. Guys, what was your favorite episode to shoot?

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, I love this question. Because it's not what our favorite episode is. Because filming it.

[Billie Eilish]

That's what I mean. That's different. That's what I mean.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Billie Eilish]

Cause that's another question of, like, what is your favorite episode? What's your favorite episode that you shot?

[Angela Kinsey]

You got a lot of big personals.

[Jenna Fischer]

I think I can actually sum it up into one answer. I'm gonna say Dundees, because we were out of the office kind of for the first time, and we were on a location, and it had a slumber party feel to it because we didn't really have trailers or anywhere to go. And we were just hanging in that restaurant, Baked Chili's, for, like, you know, 12 hours.

[Angela Kinsey]

We were just in that one room.

[Jenna Fischer]

And it was just fun and funny and nonstop, and I got to be drunk.

[Billie Eilish]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Don't pretend to be.

[Angela Kinsey]

Steve kept improvising with Rain on that keyboard. You know, like, Dwight would do different things, and we kept cracking up.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, don't give Rainn Wilson a keyboard that makes sounds unless.

[Angela Kinsey]

Or a burp noise. No, that was.

[Billie Eilish]

He just going crazy with it to.

[Jenna Fischer]

The point where I think they were like, hey, Rain, can you have to double get through one without the sound effect?

[Angela Kinsey]

No, I totally remember, because Steve as. Steve as Michael was making a speech, and Rain kept hitting the.

[Billie Eilish]

Oh, yeah, exactly.

[Angela Kinsey]

They were like, okay, you have to stop.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

So that's your favorite to film and maybe one of your favorite episodes.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. And here's the crazy thing, because, you know, there was a big debate on that episode because we thought it might be the last episode of the Office that ever aired because. What? Yeah, for that season, we only got picked up for six episodes and it wasn't looking great. And so we had this big debate.

[Billie Eilish]

Can you believe that? When you think about it now, it's.

[Jenna Fischer]

Weird now, but that was our life for the first two seasons.

[Angela Kinsey]

At the end of the sixth episode, they had our names, you know, on paper that they had laminated and velcroed to our trailer doors. And I went. And I un. Velcroed my paper laminated name. I was like, well, that was fun.

[Billie Eilish]

I'm gonna take this pad.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Billie Eilish]

After the six episodes.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, this was after. Yeah, this was our season two pickup. And we thought maybe Dundees would be our farewell. And I remember standing in the parking lot with Greg Daniels and saying, do we think Jim and Pam should kiss outside of the Dundees just in case there's no more episodes of the Office? Like, should we. Like, should we have it as an alt?

[Billie Eilish]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

And then if they cancel the show, you can put that scene in. And if they don't cancel the show, we'll save it. And Greg said, no, we're not going to give them the option. If they want to see you two kiss, they're going to have to pick up the show. We're not going to give them the footage.

[Billie Eilish]

That's right.

[Angela Kinsey]

But hold up. Pam does kiss Jim.

[Billie Eilish]

She does kiss Jim. Okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

I think they don't kiss till Casino Night.

[Angela Kinsey]

Are you crazy? She kisses literally.

[Billie Eilish]

I know, but it was like.

[Jenna Fischer]

It was like a sloppy fall into you kiss. It wasn't like kiss.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

I say. I know, I know. John and I argued about this too.

[Angela Kinsey]

You say Jim and Pam's first kiss is Casino Night?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes.

[Billie Eilish]

Well, that's their first, like, intentional together, you know, consensual kiss. Yeah, yeah. Or their first, like, passionate, really? Whatever. And yeah, I guess in Dundees it's more. You're drunk and you love him and he's your friend and you hug him.

[Jenna Fischer]

If my mouth is falling onto his mouth.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay, well, you've been.

[Billie Eilish]

You know what I mean?

[Jenna Fischer]

Like, that's like.

[Angela Kinsey]

I don't know about this part because my argument is getting weaker for me.

[Billie Eilish]

No. Yeah, it is.

[Jenna Fischer]

No, but, you know, when we talked to John about it, John was like, from Jim's perspective, they kissed. That he got a kiss from this girl that he's liked forever.

[Billie Eilish]

Yeah. Well, wouldn't you? Yeah, I would agree with Jim's perspective.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

No, I hear it all. I hear it all. What about you, Ange? What's your favorite episode to shoot and. Or to.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, man, this is so hard. I loved filming the Christmas episodes. They were so huge. My character always lost her mind, you know, every time, just screaming and throwing ornaments and stomping. And I loved all of that. So filming Christmas was really fun. I loved the scene in Yankee Swap when we all sat in a circle and traded gifts. And I got that jazz poster. Babies playing jazz instruments.

[Billie Eilish]

Some people like these. Such a good line.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, my. And it hung by my desk for, like, years. Yeah, I have one at home. I do. But I feel weird putting it up. Cause it is babies, like, with the playing instruments. Okay. But what my favorite episode is, is changing all the time.

[Billie Eilish]

Now I'm watching it. I feel the same.

[Angela Kinsey]

And I rewatched. Oh, God, it was so funny with my daughter. I rewatched the deposition. My character is barely in it.

[Billie Eilish]

Like, really?

[Angela Kinsey]

I don't think I have a single line in it. Jan. In that deposition. And then when they get Michael's journal, and his journal is so dorky, but it's like, I'm dorky when I journal.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, we know, Ange. Oh, it's really.

[Billie Eilish]

Okay.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay, listen. You do.

[Billie Eilish]

I do. Oh, okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

You've made Angela so happy. I journal, too, but she is such a dorky journaler.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, we brought in one of my journals that I wrote in my 20s, and I was interning on Conan. I was living in New York, and I literally wrote something like, you'll never believe what happened today, but I gotta run. Stay tuned. I'll fill you in later. Xoxo, Angela. Right? That's like, who am I writing to?

[Billie Eilish]

I'm writing to yourself. Your future self. Aw.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's a big deal.

[Billie Eilish]

It's cute.

[Angela Kinsey]

Do you journal? Like, what do you journal? Is it Journalistry Association?

[Billie Eilish]

I journal. I journal on my phone because it's easier for me. Oh, yeah. I'm not a fast writer. And I just journal anything that I think. Because I noticed. I've noticed in my life that, you know, you get excited and you tend to lie to yourself about your life and your situation and, like, how you feel about stuff. Cause you really want to feel something.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Billie Eilish]

And then you think, well, if I just say, that's how I feel, then that's how I feel. I've been journaling for a while, but this year, I was specifically like, you know what? I feel like I've done a lot of lying to myself about how I'm really feeling. So I'm just gonna. Because I'm like. Because I'm worried people are gonna find it or post it or tell somebody. Cause that's a big fear of having this kind of life. And so I just made a decision to just write down every thought with the comfort that no one's gonna read it. No one's ever gonna know. I'm not gonna have to worry about it. It's just for me. So I just write freely. Anything that I think, which is dangerous, for sure. But it feels really good. It feels healthy. It feels a lot better. Makes me feel good.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, I have those journals. I have those journals from my 20s, especially where I lay it all out. And I do have a slight fear that, like, I'm gonna pass away and, like, my kids are gonna find it. And these are not all the things that my kids need to know about me. So I have an agreement with Angela. They're in a special cabinet. And I show Angela where they were. And so if anything happens to me, it is Angela's job to go in and burn the journals and destroy them.

[Billie Eilish]

Because they destroy them.

[Jenna Fischer]

They're for me.

[Billie Eilish]

She. Oh, my God, dude. But this is your legacy, though. Like, you're.

[Jenna Fischer]

You.

[Billie Eilish]

People want your words after you pass on.

[Jenna Fischer]

Dude, do I want people to have me? I don't know. It's mostly, like, that's for me. Like, and I like to go back and reflect. Like, I like to go back and be like, what was my mind at 27? Where was I? What did I care about? What was I interested in? What was I worried about? You know? And you see patterns over time when you review your journals. I see habits, habits of thinking, habits of behavior. It's really fascinating, you know, but it's so personal. I don't. I'm not sure. Like, in order to give me the freedom to really write it down, I need to know that Angela's gonna burn them if anything happens.

[Angela Kinsey]

And I told her, I will torch them.

[Jenna Fischer]

It's a best friend agreement, day to day.

[Billie Eilish]

Really sweet. I'm glad you guys.

[Angela Kinsey]

You need a BFF who can torch.

[Billie Eilish]

I know. The problem is mine are all digital, so that's an issue. It exists forever.

[Angela Kinsey]

It does. And I've started a few years ago. I know I'm like a dinosaur, but that notes app on my phone. So I love to write comedy. I love to study people. So I have a whole notes on my phone. Jenna, I don't even know if I've ever shared this with you. Of just observations of people, situations, things that I might find funny.

[Jenna Fischer]

I have a handwritten notebook of that you do? Yeah, I wrote one down the other day. I said, in case I ever need to play characters, I can look at at all these notes. Woman who reapplies her lipstick immediately after finishing a meal. That's a person.

[Billie Eilish]

It is.

[Jenna Fischer]

That's a thing.

[Billie Eilish]

That's a full character. I have a question for both of you. Cause I know what some of this stuff is. Like, what did you hate doing or like the process of making?

[Jenna Fischer]

By the end of the run, it was less fun to sit in the background of all the scenes.

[Billie Eilish]

I think about that a lot when I'm watching. Cause you guys really be doing that. You guys are in the back of a lot of shots, everybody. Like all of the one offs, like the talking heads. And you don't even think when you're watching it? Honestly, I don't even think about it unless I religiously watch the bloopers of all the stuff. And that's when I notice. I'm like, oh, my God.

[Angela Kinsey]

Leslie, David, Baker and Creed in the back.

[Billie Eilish]

In the back of every single one.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know.

[Jenna Fischer]

For nine years.

[Angela Kinsey]

For nine years.

[Billie Eilish]

Nine years.

[Angela Kinsey]

I sometimes lucked out because I was behind a partition. And so I could be like, come on, guys. You can't see Angela, right? Come on. You can barely see me when I stand up. I know. For me, the thing that really got old was the fake pregnant belly. Because you had a bodysuit with the belly, and it was itchy and heavy. And Jenna had it first, and she was really griping about it, and I was like, okay, all right. It can't be that bad.

[Billie Eilish]

Oh, God.

[Angela Kinsey]

And then I had it and I was like, are you kidding me with this thing? Like, to go pee. Forget it. Your mic.

[Jenna Fischer]

It was 20 minutes to get out.

[Angela Kinsey]

Of it under this pillow thing.

[Billie Eilish]

Wow. So it's not just a belly. It's like a full piece.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's like a wetsuit, but then a little pocket that a belly goes in.

[Billie Eilish]

So your legs and your arms are in that thing?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

You step into it.

[Billie Eilish]

Right.

[Angela Kinsey]

And how about this? We haven't gotten there yet, but when Robert California has this big party, we all go in the swimming pool. And they had me swim with that fake belly. Guess what? It absorbs water. I was like. I was like, oh, my God.

[Billie Eilish]

I'm shocked you didn't sink to the bottom with your tiny self.

[Jenna Fischer]

I know.

[Angela Kinsey]

I got a good core workout. Do you have a favorite season of the Office?

[Billie Eilish]

I do.

[Angela Kinsey]

You do? What is it?

[Billie Eilish]

Okay, three, four, and also five. But three and four are like, unbelievable. Five is Also incredible. Incredible. But three and four, like, it's just like Jim and Pam get together around there. Things are good. We're like, Michael's not leaving yet. We're in a good zone, man. There's not conflict as much yet. There's not like the senator yet. There's not Robert California yet. There's not Joe, there's not Gabe yet. And it stays really good. But those just couple seasons are just like happiness.

[Jenna Fischer]

Can I bring you into a controversy? What do you think? That it was okay that Jim bought his parents house in frame Toby, without telling Pam first. Where do you stand? Romantic or controlling?

[Billie Eilish]

I don't love it. But also people in their relationships have their own what's okay and what's not.

[Jenna Fischer]

That's a great answer.

[Billie Eilish]

Even though these are not real characters, they are in the show and it's not. It's up to Pam whether it was okay or not. Not exactly. You know what I mean?

[Angela Kinsey]

And I think it made Pam like life. She felt so taken care of.

[Billie Eilish]

And also what I liked was that at first you're like, you bought this without telling me. And like, look at all these weird things going on and you have this whole concern and everyone that's watching is like, yeah, what the hell is going on? And then it's this like very sweet, touching moment of you being like, I love it. Like, look at this. Like, I don't even care about any of the anything. But you bought me this, you know, you bought me a house. It's amazing. So it's like, I think you can see it from both sides. Like, I wouldn't want someone to do that in my life. But also it's like it depends on the situation and the person and your life and the thing, you know?

[Angela Kinsey]

And I think also what came before it was Roy who was so non committal. They were engaged for so long, we're sus. And then you meet. Yes. And then you meet Jim who's like all in and how good that must have felt.

[Billie Eilish]

Yeah, it's true, actually. And someone who didn't do anything for Pam ever. And then it's like, yeah, maybe it's so far the other direction that it could be too far, but it's so nothing like she's ever experienced that. It's really touching to do that, you know, which is sweet.

[Jenna Fischer]

It's interesting because when that episode came up, I said, and we've had these conversations before, what do you do when something has been written for your character?

[Billie Eilish]

Yeah. That you don't agree with?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, that you're like, how do I get behind this? I don't know how to wrap my head around it. And Greg said something similar, which is that Jenna wouldn't like this, but Pam does. And very similarly, Jenna does not like being tickled. But Pam seemed to respond well to it. When Roy tickles her, she would always come around. She liked being tickled. And I was like, but this one's really difficult for me because I have a physical, like, visceral response to tickling that just causes sort of rage.

[Billie Eilish]

Oh, my God, dude, my mother is there. Is this true or am I my mom?

[Jenna Fischer]

Will I. I'm getting a thumbs up from your mom.

[Billie Eilish]

Serious. I have to resist with all my might hitting the person who tickled us.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes.

[Jenna Fischer]

Thank you.

[Billie Eilish]

I feel seen. Tickling is a serious thing. My brother tickled me. We were in anthropology when I was a little kid, and my brother started tickling me, and I had an overreaction to make him feel bad, and I was like, oh, my God, stop. And I, like, swung my whole body and I bonked myself on the corner of a table and gave myself a black eye.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, no.

[Billie Eilish]

And I always blamed him because he was tickling me.

[Jenna Fischer]

Did he ever tickle you again?

[Billie Eilish]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay.

[Billie Eilish]

He did, but he was scared to because I'd be like, I'll give myself a black eye and I'll blame it on you. Yeah, older brother gets the punishment. But no, I agree that. But I'd be furious if somebody bought a house and didn't ask me or tell me. Yeah, be furious.

[Jenna Fischer]

Jenna wouldn't like that.

[Billie Eilish]

Yeah, but then it's also, like, funny when you sell the house without telling him. Absolutely bonkers when that happens. But then it's like, you have a point. You're like, well, you bought it without telling me, so I thought I could sell it without telling you. Every time I hear that line, I'm like, unbelievable. I know you bought the house without telling me. So I'm like, I know.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's a weird book.

[Billie Eilish]

Crazy relationship.

[Jenna Fischer]

Maybe she had been holding onto it a little bit. I don't know.

[Billie Eilish]

Clearly. Yeah, clearly.

[Angela Kinsey]

I mean, every week I had to, like, reconcile with a character that was very different from me. Like, oh, yeah, all of my reactions, everything. So I can really relate to that. I mean, there were plenty of times where I was like, okay, can we dial Angela back just a little? Like, can she not always just be the bitch? And I loved that note that Ken Kwapas gave me. He was like, angela, today, why don't you try being the suspicious bitch. And I was like, ooh, she's totally different than, like, the strict bitch. Suspicious bitch.

[Billie Eilish]

Was there anything in Angela's character that you did, like, resonate with at all?

[Angela Kinsey]

I mean, I do love animals. I mean, I don't know. I haven't ever licked my cat. I did really do that, Billy.

[Billie Eilish]

Yeah, I did.

[Angela Kinsey]

I really licked it.

[Billie Eilish]

I love that you did.

[Angela Kinsey]

I mean, they were like, it's just one take. We're just one take. We're gonna be a little bit closer. And I was like, oh. And then I licked the cat. But I also like Angela once she's in. She's very loyal. Like, you know, I don't think she ever gave up on Dwight, even though they were such a weird on and off again romance. But he was her soup snake, you know?

[Billie Eilish]

It's true.

[Angela Kinsey]

So I guess those two things, but pretty much nothing.

[Jenna Fischer]

El, if you were an office character, which one would you be?

[Billie Eilish]

Good one. I've always really resonated with Michael's character, which is maybe problematic. I just. And I've said that before to my mom, my parents, and my brother and stuff, but it's really true. I see a lot of myself in this character, and not some stuff, more of just. I can't even really explain it. There's just something that I really, really, really relate to about his character. One of my favorite, favorite moments is when he can't help but shout. That's what she said. Even if he's, like, furious. Like when she is about to throw the Dundee at the tv and they're having that argument.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, yeah.

[Billie Eilish]

And he's like, so angry, and he's clearly just so sad. And, you know, and then she's like, you're hardly my first. And he's so angry. But he has this need to say, that's what she said. Cause he knows I need to say it and he just shouts it at her.

[Angela Kinsey]

Michael also just has such a pure heart. He really does.

[Billie Eilish]

I know.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

He's pretty, like just a person who just wants love and to be loved. But he goes about it so wonky. But I'm with you. Whenever he has to yell something, every time I lose it.

[Billie Eilish]

So funny.

[Angela Kinsey]

I hadn't seen him yell I declare bankruptcy until we rewatched it.

[Billie Eilish]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

And just like his need to do that to make this announcement is, like, amazing.

[Billie Eilish]

It just hurts my soul how he's like, that's how he thinks. You declare bankruptcy. I know. Cause you declare it out loud in a room.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's done.

[Jenna Fischer]

I've done it.

[Billie Eilish]

I just feel that. Okay. And this is a part that I find. So. Starting to watch the Office at a really young age, I almost didn't understand any reference whatsoever. I just thought it was funny and I thought, you know, it was funny. I just liked the show in general, but a lot. Most of the references, I had no idea who anybody was, no idea what movies they were referencing. So something I do blame the Office for, to be honest, is. But then also I blame myself, but I blame the Office is there's so many things that are said, especially by Michael in the Office, that he says wrong on purpose. Like written on purpose.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Billie Eilish]

That I didn't even know the real word. So I said many words wrong because I learned them from Michael Scott.

[Angela Kinsey]

Were you a little stitious?

[Billie Eilish]

I was a. That one. I knew that. Little stitches. That was one that I knew. And I was very proud that I knew that one. But, like, insurmountable, to be honest. I thought that was a word. I thought, oh, no, this has happened many times, guys.

[Angela Kinsey]

I never thought about it. This filter of the Office that on a younger person, they're learning Michael's vocabulary.

[Billie Eilish]

Yes. Learning his vocabulary. Cause I thought I was learning new words.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, my God.

[Billie Eilish]

Which I was. They were just wrong. And then. And same when, you know the joke when Aaron is like, my New Year's resolution was to learn a new word every day. Yeah. And it is going immensely.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Billie Eilish]

I didn't get that. I was like, oh, cool, I'll start saying that. So now. Because I have said so many things wrong. Mom, do you remember off the top of your head some more ones that I just said that everyone was like, what the hell?

[Angela Kinsey]

I remember when you first heard that.

[Billie Eilish]

U2 was from Ireland. Oh, you guys, you guys, you guys, you guys, you guys, you guys, you guys, you guys.

[Angela Kinsey]

What?

[Billie Eilish]

Okay, this is. This is the worst one. Sweet. Sweet. Bono is a supporter of mine.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Billie Eilish]

And I love him.

[Angela Kinsey]

My God. Amazing.

[Billie Eilish]

Toronto.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. My God.

[Billie Eilish]

Here's the issue, guys.

[Angela Kinsey]

What?

[Jenna Fischer]

What?

[Billie Eilish]

Literally in June, this last June, we were in Ireland. So very recently, we were in Ireland. And I get. Oh, God. I'm in my hotel, and I get flowers delivered to my hotel room. And it has a little letter on it, and it's this really, really sweet letter, and it says, from Bono. And I was like, why would Bono, who's from Scranton.

[Angela Kinsey]

You thought Bono was from Scranton, Pennsylvania?

[Billie Eilish]

I go, why would he send me something in Ireland? What does this have to. What does this have to do with him? And it was like, welcome to. Like, it was something about, like, welcome to my hometown or something like that. But U2 is from Scranton. And I was like. I kept asking everyone, like, what is Bono doing sending me flowers all the.

[Angela Kinsey]

Across the world from Scratton?

[Billie Eilish]

Why would he do that? What does this have to do with anything? And they were like, billy, what are you talking about? They're Irish. I was like, no, they're not. Have you.

[Jenna Fischer]

Have you told him this story yet?

[Billie Eilish]

No.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, my God.

[Billie Eilish]

It's because when Michael falls in love with Holly and he's making her a mix and frick. I blame John for this because Jim comes in and Michael goes, what's the band from Scranton that made it big? Is that you, too? And Jim goes, yes. And then he sits down and he goes, you don't love Holly. That's all there is. It's not even. There's no pause, there's no laugh.

[Angela Kinsey]

But if you've seen it 30 times, then guess what? You too, is from Scranton.

[Billie Eilish]

I thought it was like, honestly, in my head, I thought. Jim thought, oh, that's a stupid question, because obviously they're the band that made it big from Scranton. I thought if it was like. I thought it was like, the question, like, is, you know, Ugh, I don't even know, like, is so and so. That's very obviously from this place. Are they from that place? You'd be like, yeah, obviously. I thought that was the vibe instead of. No, not at all. Their whole thing is that they're not a relationship. This is in June.

[Angela Kinsey]

June. I didn't know.

[Billie Eilish]

Like, I could have been in an interview. Somebody could have asked me about YouTube and Vano, and I could be like.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, it's really cool, because here's the thing. Here's the thing. We are going to give you our phone numbers. Anytime you come up on something like, is this. Just text us. We're like, your office.

[Billie Eilish]

I'm going to need to do that.

[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

That's right. We now have a dropdown just for our books, for the book Jenna and I wrote together, for Jenna's book that she wrote about acting, and for my cookbook.

[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Billie Eilish]

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[Angela Kinsey]

I don't know.

[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Billie Eilish]

Okay? So I play it. It's playing only on my phone. I don't watch it on anything else. It's playing on my phone at all times when I'm doing anything. When I'm, like, in the shower, I have it sitting outside the shower. I can't have any silence, guys. It's like right outside the shower. It's like when I'm getting dressed, when I'm eating food, when I put on makeup, when I do my hair, when I. It's like truly playing always just in my Ha. I'll just. Honestly, I'll be. I was, like, rearranging my closet a couple months ago or maybe longer ago, and it was just in my pocket. I couldn't even see it. It was just in my pocket and the audio was playing. And it's like I listen to it like it's a podcast. Like, also because I've seen it so many times, I have it all memorized. Like, all the lines memorized and all the visuals memorized so I can picture it. I'm not missing.

[Angela Kinsey]

You don't even need to look at it.

[Billie Eilish]

I don't even need to look at it.

[Angela Kinsey]

This makes something your mom said to me when we met, when you got here make perfect sense. Maggie said to me, I feel like I know you guys because I hear your voices all the time. And I thought, well, all the time.

[Billie Eilish]

All the time. And, you know, I don't live at home anymore, but when I lived at home, it was. I mean, it's just. It's just. You can just hear it. And I also have, like, weird needs. Again, I have these weird. I have, like, a need to, like, if I'm eating, I have to have the office playing or something. Playing. Preferably the office and silence. Otherwise, like, nobody. If you talk to me, I'm not there. I'm not. I'm not there. And so. But when I was living at home, I'd be, like, going into my parents kitchen where my parents were and being like, shh. Turning on the office and being like, don't talk to me. I'm watching the office. I'm eating my waffles. Leave me alone.

[Angela Kinsey]

Maggie, we love you. We love you guys. Parents are amazing. Okay. Oh, actually, Jenna, I'm curious. So you're Michael Scott, right? Billy, which office character are you?

[Jenna Fischer]

Me? Who am I most like?

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Billie Eilish]

Ooh.

[Jenna Fischer]

So I'm most like Pam. Like, there was so much of me that was Pam and so much of my early life as a struggling actress that I brought to Pam. I mean, I literally know what it feels like to sit at a reception desk and wish that I had an artistic career because I was a receptionist. So I know that longing, and I know that feeling of wanting something to change, but feeling like I'm in a place where nothing ever changes. So I definitely could relate to that. But I am an action person, so I am not a wait for it to come to me person. And I feel like Pam, it was harder for her to get herself started or take movement, you know, so I'm just much more ambitious than Pam. I always say it would not take. It would not have taken me, like, three years to kiss the cutie in the office.

[Billie Eilish]

Right.

[Jenna Fischer]

We're not waiting that long for that. Like, that's happening. Much sooner would have happened at the Dundees, probably if I were in charge. Like, for reals, though, you know, not the.

[Billie Eilish]

Not the drunken.

[Jenna Fischer]

Not the falling onto his lips kiss. Yeah. But I also think I have a tiny bit of Ryan than me. I. I have a lot of falling.

[Angela Kinsey]

She loves Ryan.

[Jenna Fischer]

I have fallen in love with Ryan on this rewatch.

[Billie Eilish]

Which. Which version of him?

[Jenna Fischer]

There's serious characters.

[Angela Kinsey]

Talk about so many versions.

[Billie Eilish]

Yeah, those are different. Those are like. It's like he's playing different characters.

[Jenna Fischer]

I think my favorite is Ryan the temp. So I like early Ryan, but I guess it's just I have a lot of entrepreneurial ideas that go nowhere. You know, gadgets that I've invented in my mind and things that, you know, never get made. And whatever we've discussed on the podcast before that with my high school best friend, we invented something called the tan baster. It is. It's a way to put on a sun tanning lotion without getting your hands dirty. It's called the tan base dirt. You know, the thing that you wash dishes with that, like, fills with dish soap and then has a sponge on the end. So it's very similar, but with suntan lotion. And then you can also get the middle of your back with it. You know what I'm saying? The tan baster is about this thing. Oh, bless your heart, the tan baster.

[Angela Kinsey]

Someday I need you. I need you on hdtv.

[Billie Eilish]

I don't know.

[Jenna Fischer]

I mean, I think I should call my friend and we should get it going again.

[Angela Kinsey]

Welcome to Celebrity Shark Tank. Today we have Jenna Fisher. Can you imagine? It's so humiliating.

[Billie Eilish]

You should do it. They're so passionate about It. You're so passionate, man. You just described it for so long.

[Jenna Fischer]

But what do you think? What's your honest opinion?

[Billie Eilish]

I don't know.

[Jenna Fischer]

It's not happening, is it? Don't send me on shark tanks. There's lots to be humiliated.

[Billie Eilish]

There's lots of other inventions that do well that are stupider.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, my God.

[Billie Eilish]

It's not a bad idea. It's really not. I mean, I totally get it. Like, you know, you get your hands all gross when you. I get it.

[Jenna Fischer]

Especially at the beach. And then you've got sand on your hands.

[Angela Kinsey]

I think you need to let it go. I think you need to let it go.

[Jenna Fischer]

One day, maybe I'll have time.

[Angela Kinsey]

You know what? Tans are going to come back into fashion, and when they do. I don't think tans are in fashion anymore.

[Jenna Fischer]

No, it's for the suntan lotion. It means the suntan screen. I'm sorry. Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

All of these years you have told me about this, I thought, it's like a spray tan in a tube.

[Jenna Fischer]

No lady applying.

[Angela Kinsey]

I thought, this is such an uneven tan, it looks like from a sponge.

[Billie Eilish]

Well, that would be true if that's what it was for.

[Jenna Fischer]

Are you behind it? Now that you understand it, Sunscreen.

[Angela Kinsey]

I want you to go for this.

[Billie Eilish]

Now I'm applying sunscreen. What about your face?

[Jenna Fischer]

It doesn't work on the face.

[Angela Kinsey]

No squeegee for the face?

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, we already have those, like, you know, deodorant sticks that we can put on our face.

[Billie Eilish]

The problem is that the rubbing in is where you distribute it evenly and so that you actually get all the little cracks and crevices.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay.

[Billie Eilish]

All right.

[Jenna Fischer]

You know what? When we're testing that in our focus groups, we're gonna think about that. We're gonna make sure that we get a sponge that can apply evenly.

[Billie Eilish]

So, Ryan, because of your ideas, thank.

[Angela Kinsey]

You for bringing us back.

[Billie Eilish]

Sorry, just had to come back.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, my God.

[Billie Eilish]

Ryan, because of your ideas. What about you?

[Angela Kinsey]

I think I'm a little. Maybe. Maybe a Phyllis Angela combo platter. Maybe a little bit. I'm a little bit Angela. And then Phyllis has a little sass. You know, she, like, hooked up with Bob Vance in the bathroom.

[Billie Eilish]

She does.

[Angela Kinsey]

I have a little.

[Billie Eilish]

Phyllis is a freak.

[Angela Kinsey]

A little bit. I might have a little bit of that combo in me. What do you think, Jo?

[Jenna Fischer]

I think you are way more Phyllis than Angela. There's almost no Angela in Angela. Except for maybe Love of Animals. But I think, yeah, I think Phyllis. I think Phyllis is a strong person.

[Angela Kinsey]

Maybe with the side of Kelly. Like, chatty Kelly.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. Angela's very chatty.

[Billie Eilish]

I get that.

[Angela Kinsey]

I do like to chat.

[Billie Eilish]

Yeah, I get it. I feel that. I feel that for sure.

[Angela Kinsey]

Like, I could go to your family reunion and I wouldn't have a problem. I wouldn't miss a beat.

[Billie Eilish]

Wow.

[Angela Kinsey]

I could go to your cousin's wedding. I wouldn't be a problem. Well, it's a.

[Billie Eilish]

You're a good. That's what that is also.

[Angela Kinsey]

Thanks, Billy.

[Billie Eilish]

That's a good thing. That's a good thing.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, my gosh.

[Billie Eilish]

When you can just fit right in anywhere, you're good. Oh, oh, oh, oh.

[Angela Kinsey]

I have a thing.

[Jenna Fischer]

What is it?

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay. Okay. I just got very excited about this. So how many cast members have you met from the office?

[Billie Eilish]

So I've met Creed.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes.

[Billie Eilish]

I've met Rain. You know what's interesting? I've spoken on the phone with Steve and Brian. Yes, Brian. Yeah, that's right. Steven. Brian. I think that. Oh, I've met Mindy and I've met bj.

[Angela Kinsey]

Mm.

[Billie Eilish]

Oh, well, actually. Okay, so two interesting things. When I was a kid, I think I must have been. I'm four and a half years younger than my brother, and he was probably 13 or 14, so I was some years younger than that. My brother was in Bad Teacher, which is with Cameron Diaz, and I was like a little kid. And I remember going to hang out on set at one point and standing in craft services, and Phyllis was right there, and I hadn't seen the Office. I was like, I must have been like, you know, I was probably like eight or nine or something. And she was standing there, and I remember somebody saying, like, she's in the office. And I remember thinking, the Office. Like, I know that show. That's really cool. I've never seen it, but that's really cool. And I remember sitting. Standing right next to her, like, she was right here and she was eating chips or something and she was having a conversation with somebody, and I just remember looking up at her and being like, she's a star. And, like, just looking at her and she doesn't know that. I've never. I don't think I've ever spoken to her. That was like a big deal for me. I talked about that for a long time after, and she has no idea that that little kid was me also. But. And then the other thing is, my mom's. One of my mom's long lasting best friends is Amy Ryan. Oh, my gosh. Molly Flack. So I grew up around Amy. Yeah. And so, you know, I knew her. We knew her before she was obviously cast. And then she was just, like, one of my mom's friends. And then she. Once I started being a fan of the Office, it was hard for me to be around her. I was.

[Angela Kinsey]

Cause she was Holly.

[Billie Eilish]

She was Holly right then, too. And I was like, peak. The Office was. Was crazy. It was. Yeah. So she has been in my life for a long time, and she has a daughter who's a few years younger than me. And we would go to their house and, like, I'd play with her daughter, and it was cool. Yeah, she's great. I love her. She's great.

[Jenna Fischer]

I love Amy.

[Angela Kinsey]

I miss hearing that. Amy is amazing. You know, it's interesting because my daughter. One of my daughter's friends recently started watching the Office. I have known this little girl. They're 14 now. I've known her since kindergarten. Right. Best friend since kindergarten. She was over at the house the other day, and she was, like, looking at me like this. Like, oh, my God. And I was like. I turned around, I was like, what's that? What's going on? And she's like, sorry. I started watching the Office. Oh, my God. I was like, I have known you forever, but now I'm Angela Martin, you know? And I'm like, oh, my gosh. It's so funny.

[Billie Eilish]

You know what the other one was? I used to be a camp counselor, and there was this girl, and she was, like, my favorite student at the camp. And her name was Piper. And I loved her to pieces. And her mom would come to pick her up every day. And I was like, that's Jan. That's literally Jan. And I was like, is your mom Jane? And she was like, yeah. Oh, my gosh. That is being like, that's so cool. It's Jan. And I tried not to freak her out. Cause I'm sure she was annoyed with that a lot. But I think about her a lot. I hope she's doing well.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay, I have a message for you from Creed. Okay. So Creed is my neighbor.

[Billie Eilish]

Really?

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. He lives down the street from me.

[Billie Eilish]

No way.

[Jenna Fischer]

Walking distance.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. Like, we. Sometimes we walk. We call it the sauce trail. We get an adult beverage and a red solo cup, and we go for a walk. And he often comes over and brings his guitar and, like, jams out. He'll be like, ang, I have a new album. You want to hear it? I'm like, yes. It's like, one of the joys of my life. But we were texting because he loves Animal documentaries. And he was texting me recently that he wants me to come watch one. And I said, hey. I said, have you met Billie Eilish? She's coming into the studio. We're so excited. And he wrote back and he said, yes, I have. I met her brother also. She's been ghosting me for a while. And then he called me and he said, I'm kidding, pumpkin. I'm kidding. And I said, I figured you were kidding. And he said, I was blown away by her voice. I got to see her in concert. She's amazing. I love meeting Finneas too. Ang, will you tell her that if she ever wants to talk music or jam to come over, I'm around? Yeah.

[Billie Eilish]

Oh, that's sweet.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know.

[Billie Eilish]

I met him for, like, a split second. He came to one of my shows, like, three and a half years ago, and I was meeting a million people, and I was like, it's great. And I went over and I hugged him, and it was really cool. But you know what's funny about, like, I love that his just. All of his musical talent just comes through throughout the show. And what I think is really cool is, you know when he's singing, spinning, and reeling with love at the Christmas party, when everybody's doing karaoke, I love that that's in there because it's his song. But you don't know that. And you think he's just honestly. Cause here's one more thing, is that I watched that thinking this is probably a super famous song everybody knows, and he's doing a karaoke to it. And I always thought the song was really cool. And I find a lot of the music that I love through. Through other things and, like, hearing it in the background of something and looking up the lyrics. And so I remember after a while being like, every time I watch that scene, I'm always like, oh, that song is really cool. I love whatever song this is. What song is this? And I looked it up, honestly, probably like last year, and I saw that it was his song. And I was like, he's a great songwriter.

[Angela Kinsey]

He will just come over and play. And I mean, I'm always amazed. I'm amazed when I love to write, but it's always so interesting for me when people can put music to words because I can't hear music. That's such a gift. Like, maybe in another life I'll get to hear music in my head like that, because that is so cool. And if you can't hear it, when you see people who can, it's like, you're a little piece of magic that you get to witness. It's, like, so cool.

[Jenna Fischer]

So, yeah, I'm the same way. My son is a musician. He's a drummer and plays guitar. And from the time he was very little, he would be, like, 3 years old. We'd be driving somewhere, and from the backseat, he would say with his little voice, mama, you play a song with a lot of ride cymbal. Play a song with a lot of ride cymbal. And I would say. And I said. I said, baby, I don't know. I don't know what song has a lot of ride symbol in it. And then he. I mean, I'm gonna get it wrong. But then he would say, like, some Green Day song, right? And then I'd put it on, and I'd be like, holy, there's a lot of ride cymbal in this song.

[Billie Eilish]

Wow.

[Jenna Fischer]

And so. And. And so it is true, because I'm seeing that in my own house with this person who can, like, hear music in a way that I just. You know, it's so specific.

[Billie Eilish]

It's so interesting hearing that you guys can't. Have you ever tried to write a song?

[Angela Kinsey]

No. Have you? No, I haven't. I mean, I've written poetry and I've written. You know, I was a English. I was a creative writing major, but I don't know that I can see it.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, this is actually a great segue into my next question, which is that you sampled part of the episode Threat Level Midnight.

[Billie Eilish]

I did.

[Jenna Fischer]

For your song My Strange Addiction.

[Billie Eilish]

I did.

[Jenna Fischer]

How did that come about?

[Billie Eilish]

Well, first of all, I can't believe they let me do that, because that's. I mean, that's wild to do that. Like, take audio from a show like the Office that's that big and that. I mean, come on. Ugh. It was crazy. It was such a pipe dream. I can't even tell you.

[Angela Kinsey]

It is wild that they said yes, because we are going back now through emails from NBC and Standards and Practices and things like that. And they were super particular.

[Jenna Fischer]

They were. But I remember all the people whose voices you hear, like Brian Baumgartner's on there and Ed Holmes. You hear Mindy, you hear John. I remember. I think you hear bj, right?

[Billie Eilish]

Yep.

[Jenna Fischer]

So I remember. And Steve, I remember each of those individuals had to give permission.

[Billie Eilish]

Yes, they did.

[Jenna Fischer]

They were an enthusiastic yes. So they were.

[Angela Kinsey]

No hesitation.

[Jenna Fischer]

Let me tell you, the Office text thread blew up.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

When that went out, like, everyone was so excited.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

It was Very.

[Billie Eilish]

Oh, that's very cool. I mean, so the way that. That happened was. Finneas, my brother, had written this song called My Strange Addiction. Just the words and, like, the whole song. And he was like, billy, I wrote this song, like, do you think it's cool? And he played it for me, and he had this beat to it that was, like, so goofy. And I was like, dude, this reminds me of the song that they danced to. The Scar.

[Angela Kinsey]

The Scar.

[Billie Eilish]

This reminds me of the Scar. And he was like, what are you talking about? And I played the scene, and it just. Just when he. When he hits that button in the jukebox. And it's like. It's like, yeah. And it's so. Like, it's so stupid, but it's so good. I was like, this is giving me that same feeling of, like, dumb but kind of groovy as. And so we were like, oh, my God, that would be so. And also, the song is. It's kind of a play off of the show My Strange Addiction. Do you guys know that show? And it's about people with these weird addictions to weird stuff. Finneas wrote the song, but it's kind of about, I've got an addiction, but it's to you. But I kind of was like, well, the office is also my addiction.

[Angela Kinsey]

Your addiction? Yeah.

[Billie Eilish]

And this song is kind of goofy. And it reminds me of that scene. And also then we were just watching the scene, and it's like the way that Andy's voice sounds and the way that Steve is just. It's just the whole. All the dialogue is so good. And we were like, dude. And we jokingly. Truly, Truly, truly jokingly, like, ripped the audio and just put it in the song. And then it was so perfect because Andy's name is Billy in the scene. So then it's like, no, Billy, I haven't done that dance since my wife died. And we were like, oh, that'd be so crazy. Cause my name is Billy. Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Billie Eilish]

And so we, like, put it to the song, and there was not any reality that it would work or be okay, but we were like, this is so funny. And we sent it to the label, and we were like, dude, can you just ask somebody? We know it's gonna be a no, but just ask somebody. There's no way they're gonna give us the rights to this at all. No way. And it was like, yeah, absolutely, they're not, but we'll ask Truly. And here we are.

[Angela Kinsey]

And then we did it. You did it.

[Billie Eilish]

It's amazing. And it's really cute because, you know, the fans have that whole song memorized, and so when I do it live, they all shout all the parts.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, my gosh. Really? I love Ed Helms. Does a lot of great characters. You know, he's so funny like that.

[Billie Eilish]

So good.

[Angela Kinsey]

And I loved Ed as Andy. Andy's version of what he thought that bartender was like. Hey, you.

[Jenna Fischer]

You know? Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Billie Eilish]

It's so good. Oh, it's so good. Guys, guys, I just love this.

[Jenna Fischer]

I just feel like we're having the best time.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know. I'm just like. I feel like I'm gonna have sore cheeks. Cause I'm sorry.

[Billie Eilish]

I know.

[Angela Kinsey]

I feel the same.

[Billie Eilish]

And I just. There's a lot of things that I love in the world, and there's a lot of things that I'm passionate about, and I try not to be, like, a nerd about it. And truly, when I meet other people that like the Office, I'm like, okay, whatever. Like, I don't care. I'm like, I'm not trying to relate to people about it because it's my own personal thing. And in my head, no one else knows the Office except me. It's my show. It's not. I'm not a. I'm not in a club of people. I'm not. I'm very. Pick me about it. I don't know if you guys know what that means, but I'm very, like, no. No one's ever seen. It's like, how you kind of, like, you joke about, like, your boyfriend. No, he's never dated anybody but me.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, right.

[Billie Eilish]

He's the only person he's ever been with.

[Angela Kinsey]

Right?

[Billie Eilish]

That's how I feel. The Office is like.

[Angela Kinsey]

It was made for you.

[Billie Eilish]

Made for me? You guys. Shot for nine years just for me on your phone. Nobody's seen it before on my Ph. Truly. Like, I don't really talk about it, like.

[Angela Kinsey]

Like, oh, yeah.

[Billie Eilish]

And my favorite show, the Office. Da da da da. It's truly, like, such a deeper thing than that, that when people are like, so I heard your favorite show is the Office. I'm like, don't say that. It's somehow disrespectful to me. It's sacred. It's like a. It's truly, like, a sacred part of my personality and so much of who I am and the things that I do and say and think, like. And also, I just. I base a lot of my life situations on TV shows and, like, scenes from stuff. And the amount of, like, one of My best friends, many times earlier this year, we'd be, like, in a really deep conversation about, like, something really serious in my life. And I'd just take a pause and she'd be like, oh, my God, I know just what you're gonna say. And I'll be like, well, but I have to. There's this one scene in the Office where, like, this is happening. And I just. I use it as, like, a. This reminds me of that one scene and how they feel here, and I really feel like that right now. It's stupid. Guys, you really have raised me in a way.

[Angela Kinsey]

There are things that when they sort of get like. I don't know what the phrase is, but kind of in your bones, you know what I mean? Then they become sacred to you. And if someone asks you about it, you're like, okay, first of all, how dare you?

[Billie Eilish]

I know.

[Angela Kinsey]

That is mine.

[Billie Eilish]

I know.

[Angela Kinsey]

But at the same time, you're like, okay, yes.

[Billie Eilish]

Yeah, let's talk about it.

[Angela Kinsey]

How well do you know it? Don't even come at me.

[Billie Eilish]

I know. Well, that's the other thing is people are like, I love that. And I'm like, I referenced the. Out of this show. And I'll go, does anybody in this room know the Office well enough to know, like, specific details? And people go like, yeah, for sure. And I'm like, I just know it's not true. I go, okay, so do, you know in, you know, this one episode where Michael is, like, doing this, and then he's doing this, and then. And somebody comes in and everybody's like, no, sorry, I don't know. And also, what's cool is my brother who's seen the Office many times, he and his girlfriend, who's seen the Office kind of the way everybody has where you've seen it, she's never really watched it all the way through. And so they've been watching it all the way through for the first time as a whole since it came out for Phineas, too. And so for him, everything's really fresh. And so he's finally. Oh, Billy, we were watching the Deposition the other day, and that one scene. What does he say? And I'm like, oh, you mean.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, yeah.

[Billie Eilish]

Oh, so this. And this. And also, like, sometimes he'll just. He'll reference something that he just watched, and I'll immediately get the reference and be able to, like, recite the rest of the scene, which.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's like a whole new level of your, like, your siblinghood.

[Billie Eilish]

It really is.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's like a whole new Layer. Wow.

[Billie Eilish]

You can finally you see me.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, yeah, it's cool.

[Jenna Fischer]

Do you want to do a scene with us?

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, yes, I want to do a scene.

[Jenna Fischer]

Do you want to be in a scene with us?

[Billie Eilish]

Come on, come on, come on.

[Jenna Fischer]

We printed out a scene from the show.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay, first of all, Billy, I went to our actual shooting draft. So this is as we held it in our hands. Wow. Let's see. Oh my gosh. In 2004. This is from 2004.

[Jenna Fischer]

I was two.

[Billie Eilish]

You guys.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh my God. She was two years old. Look, I highlighted your part. Jenna, you will play Pam.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay.

[Billie Eilish]

Wow.

[Angela Kinsey]

Billy, you are gonna play Phyllis. We are going to do the first ever Party Planning committee scene.

[Billie Eilish]

Oh yeah, I know this scene quite well.

[Angela Kinsey]

Season one, episode four, the Alliance.

[Billie Eilish]

Sure is.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay, I'm gonna also read our stage direction. Party planning committee. Here we go. Interior conference room. Pam, Phyllis and Angela, semicolon. The party committee.

[Billie Eilish]

Well, for decorations, maybe we could do. No, that's stupid. Forget it.

[Angela Kinsey]

What?

[Billie Eilish]

Well, I was gonna say we could have streamers, but that's dumb. Everybody has streamers.

[Angela Kinsey]

Never mind. No, yeah, I think that's a good idea. What color do you guys think?

[Billie Eilish]

Well, there's green. Blue. Yellow. Red.

[Jenna Fischer]

How about green?

[Angela Kinsey]

I think green is kind of whorish.

[Billie Eilish]

Woohoo.

[Angela Kinsey]

You're officially in the ppc.

[Billie Eilish]

So scary.

[Jenna Fischer]

We actually have for you.

[Billie Eilish]

What do you have?

[Jenna Fischer]

Are in the Party Planning Committee. Now we have a Party Planning Committee sweatshirt for you.

[Billie Eilish]

It's funny. There you go.

[Jenna Fischer]

You can plan as many parties as you want. Or however are you the Committee to Plan Parties?

[Billie Eilish]

Oh, which one are you? Oh gosh. The Committee to Plan Parties was a pretty.

[Jenna Fischer]

Pretty good party planning.

[Billie Eilish]

Pretty good stuff.

[Jenna Fischer]

I know.

[Angela Kinsey]

Isn't it interesting though that the first time this scene was ever written, it's called the Party Committee.

[Billie Eilish]

The Party Committee. I know one of my favorite lines of yours. It's your one off and you're like, michael should have asked the party planning committee first. He's not supposed to just spring things on us willy nilly. And then you just. You're like the hand grab to your face of you crying is just. Oh, it breaks my heart. Angela's whole just like clearly just like miserable life, repressed miserable self. And then. And like when you throw that whole episode, oh my God. And the Yankee swap, just like how upset you are that it's not going how you wanted it to go. You had a whole idea for how it was supposed to go and Michael's just ruining everything. And then Dwight kisses Kelly and it's just. You're just. It's just a horrible day for you. And you throw the ornaments, which, by.

[Angela Kinsey]

The way, were supposed to shatter, but they didn't.

[Billie Eilish]

They don't shatter.

[Angela Kinsey]

I threw them and they.

[Billie Eilish]

That's why it's tape.

[Angela Kinsey]

I threw it and it bounced right back. And I was, like, trying to stay in character, but at the same time, I'm like, why the hell isn't this breaking? So then just in a pure rage, I just started screaming and stomping them. And that's what.

[Billie Eilish]

No, you guys, your character is just. Everybody is Pam, you know, I feel like everyone's Pam, you know? And I also love the way that Roy is written because it's so perfectly. He's got charm to him, and he's got, like. You can see it. But also he's so neglectful and emotionally abusive that it's like, you can totally see how you could get there.

[Angela Kinsey]

My dad had a saying for guys like that. He used to say, well, Ang, he's not a bad guy, but he's not worth much. And I'm like, that was Roy.

[Jenna Fischer]

That was Roy.

[Billie Eilish]

Just made you feel, like, so shitty, you know? It's just, like, so. Ugh. God, it's so good. And it's just like, everything about Pam is just so heartbreaking. And just like, you really. You do it perfectly. Everything about it is perfect. Thank you, guys. I'm serious. Like, this show, it just can't be beat. It just really can't. I like a lot of shows, but it just. It's just the one. Guys, I'm serious.

[Jenna Fischer]

We have two things we can do here. If you have any more questions for us. We've asked you all of our questions, so if you have any more questions for us, please ask. Also, we did prepare an office quiz that we would take against each other, and we don't know the answers. We don't know who would win.

[Billie Eilish]

Ooh, would you like to love to do that?

[Angela Kinsey]

We haven't seen the questions. We don't know. Cassie prepared them. We haven't gotten to season eight yet. If you ask me a question from season eight, I'm not even gonna know because I haven't watched season eight since we filmed it.

[Jenna Fischer]

So that's like, okay, so we'll intro the quiz, then we'll say, okay, so.

[Billie Eilish]

Here'S another interesting thing is that I just. Every time I watch it all the way through. Cause again, I started from the beginning, and I finish it every time. I can't believe I did.

[Jenna Fischer]

So where Are you right now in this way?

[Billie Eilish]

I finished it. I finished it.

[Jenna Fischer]

You just recently finished it.

[Billie Eilish]

I finished it like a couple weeks ago. And every time I finish it, I take a couple weeks off and then I start it over.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay.

[Billie Eilish]

So I'm in my weeks off period.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay.

[Billie Eilish]

Which means it's not right here. It's here.

[Angela Kinsey]

Billie, I'm pretty sure it's just in your DNA now.

[Billie Eilish]

I think it is. I think it is.

[Angela Kinsey]

I think.

[Billie Eilish]

But for instance, and I think about this all the time, when Rain came over and did the office quiz with me, I was watching it, but I hadn't gotten to when Nelly is in the show. And so she wasn't on my mind. I was just not there yet. And so he asked me a question about Nellie. And also I was nervous as Dwight Schitt sitting in my front of my stage. I know. In my parents house. And I was 16. Like, oh my God. I was so intimidated and nervous that when he asked me a question about Nellie, I just like, my brain just didn't work. And I just like forgot about her.

[Angela Kinsey]

Character for two seconds until you said her name.

[Jenna Fischer]

I forgot how Catherine Tate's character's name was Nellie.

[Billie Eilish]

Charact.

[Angela Kinsey]

I completely agree.

[Jenna Fischer]

Because we haven't gotten there yet.

[Billie Eilish]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay, here we go. Here we go. Office quiz with Billie Eilish.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. Starting hopefully from easy questions and it'll get harder.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh my God, Cassie. Okay, how many questions are there?

[Jenna Fischer]

There's 10.

[Billie Eilish]

Is it just anybody shouted out whoever's first? I think so.

[Jenna Fischer]

I think. But then you said Cassie, if we shouted at the same time, we each get a point and she has tiebreakers at the end.

[Billie Eilish]

What?

[Angela Kinsey]

I didn't know any of these rules. Okay, okay, here we go.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, yes. Sorry, that was a private conversation I had with Cassie. I didn't tell you.

[Billie Eilish]

Okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

All right, here we go. What body part did Michael accidentally grill because he likes his foot? Angela got it first. Okay. I didn't realize we could break in before the question was over.

[Billie Eilish]

Yeah, it's true.

[Jenna Fischer]

See, I'm a rule follower.

[Billie Eilish]

I know it's true.

[Jenna Fischer]

No, it's vicious.

[Angela Kinsey]

I'm so competitive.

[Jenna Fischer]

Number two, besides the bride who wore wore white to fill us his wedding.

[Billie Eilish]

Oh, please. Please.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay, three. What does Michael give Toby as a goodbye present?

[Billie Eilish]

A rock.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's a brick. It's a brick.

[Jenna Fischer]

No, it's a. Okay, rock.

[Billie Eilish]

It's a rock. It's a post it note with a rubber band around it.

[Jenna Fischer]

And what does the post it note say?

[Billie Eilish]

Suck it.

[Angela Kinsey]

Suck it.

[Billie Eilish]

Suck it. On this, guys.

[Jenna Fischer]

Suck on this. Oh, my God.

[Billie Eilish]

Suck it.

[Angela Kinsey]

Suck it is David Wallace.

[Jenna Fischer]

I know. I just knew.

[Angela Kinsey]

I knew suck was on it.

[Billie Eilish]

I knew on this. Okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

All right. Who are the members of the Finer Things Club? Oscar, Pam and Toby stayed quiet on that one.

[Billie Eilish]

You guys killed it.

[Jenna Fischer]

All right, bonus. Who wants to join me?

[Angela Kinsey]

Angela.

[Billie Eilish]

No. Andy. Andy. Andy.

[Jenna Fischer]

I think Billy literally screaming.

[Angela Kinsey]

I think I just wanted to join in real life.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay, what is Stanley's favorite day?

[Billie Eilish]

Pretzel Day.

[Jenna Fischer]

I feel like they all got it. Okay, good. Finally. All right, in Second Life, Dwight creates a character that is exactly like himself.

[Billie Eilish]

But he can fly.

[Jenna Fischer]

But he can fly.

[Billie Eilish]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

All right, what's the name of the song Jan keeps playing during dinner party that one night? I don't know.

[Billie Eilish]

His name is. They never talk about the name.

[Angela Kinsey]

By Hunter.

[Jenna Fischer]

By Hunter.

[Billie Eilish]

That one night. Yeah, but they never talk about the name, ever. Oh.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh. And maybe it's not called.

[Billie Eilish]

It might not be called that. It's just. That's all you hear.

[Angela Kinsey]

She could contest that. That's just the song.

[Jenna Fischer]

But listen, I don't think my point on that one is gonna make any impact on the final score.

[Billie Eilish]

Okay. Okay. Who is Gabe? Often mistaken as Lincoln.

[Angela Kinsey]

Abraham Lincoln.

[Jenna Fischer]

I was gonna say a praying mantis.

[Angela Kinsey]

Did someone say that?

[Billie Eilish]

Stick bug, they call him. Oh, my gosh.

[Jenna Fischer]

All right, this is a fill in the blank question.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, gosh.

[Jenna Fischer]

If Creed can't blank.

[Angela Kinsey]

Scuba.

[Billie Eilish]

Scuba. Yeah, good one.

[Jenna Fischer]

What's it all been for?

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

All right, so right now, the score is Billy has six, Angela has four, Jenna has two.

[Billie Eilish]

Oh, wow.

[Jenna Fischer]

So sad. But I will give you a point for as many names as you can come up with this question.

[Angela Kinsey]

What name?

[Jenna Fischer]

Angela Martin's Cats.

[Angela Kinsey]

Amber.

[Jenna Fischer]

Sprinkles.

[Billie Eilish]

Sprinkles.

[Angela Kinsey]

Bandit.

[Billie Eilish]

Garbage. Garbage. Well, Garbage, I guess she does keep.

[Jenna Fischer]

Lady. Princess.

[Angela Kinsey]

Princess.

[Billie Eilish]

Lady.

[Angela Kinsey]

Princess. Lady Ash.

[Billie Eilish]

Diane.

[Angela Kinsey]

Diane.

[Billie Eilish]

Comstock.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yep.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, Comstock.

[Billie Eilish]

Well, okay. But I don't know how many we did. We both were doing.

[Angela Kinsey]

I said Amber.

[Billie Eilish]

We got Sprinkles, Lumpy, Amber, Bandit.

[Angela Kinsey]

Princess. Lady.

[Billie Eilish]

Princess. Lady Diane. Mr. Ash.

[Jenna Fischer]

Right.

[Billie Eilish]

That's Mr. Ash. Mr. Ash.

[Jenna Fischer]

Did you say garbage?

[Billie Eilish]

So sprinkles, obviously.

[Jenna Fischer]

Are there more?

[Billie Eilish]

Who are we missing?

[Jenna Fischer]

There's more.

[Billie Eilish]

How many more?

[Angela Kinsey]

There's like 13, isn't there?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, there's 14.

[Billie Eilish]

Wait, wait, wait.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, I knew there were like, 13.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, there's eight left.

[Billie Eilish]

The one with the.

[Angela Kinsey]

Is there one named Jenny? No.

[Billie Eilish]

Does she say them all when. When Dwight is saying that he doesn't like sleeping on.

[Angela Kinsey]

No, she only says, like, Four, she says. Diane. Oh, there's some. There's another one. I'm thinking. What letter does it start with? Give me a letter.

[Billie Eilish]

Wait, wait, wait. Is it the one that's humping Princess lady that we're forgetting, or did we get him?

[Angela Kinsey]

I think that's Mr. Ash.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. Mr. Ash. Yeah, that's right.

[Billie Eilish]

Mr. Ash.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. Give me one letter to say there.

[Jenna Fischer]

Are two that start with P. It's your cat.

[Billie Eilish]

Oh, yes.

[Jenna Fischer]

Two that start with P. Oh, gosh.

[Billie Eilish]

Oh, my God.

[Angela Kinsey]

I can. Peter. Nope.

[Billie Eilish]

No, Paul.

[Angela Kinsey]

I'm just saying. I'm saying, like people.

[Billie Eilish]

Precious. Oh, Princess lady. Diane.

[Angela Kinsey]

Lumpy.

[Billie Eilish]

Mr. Ash.

[Angela Kinsey]

I can so picture Bandit. Penny.

[Billie Eilish]

No, just making it up. I'm trying to think of another. Oh, we have a hint. I have a hint. You also name your children this. What? You name your children this? Look, it's a kid name.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, it's like Angela Martin named her kid after this.

[Billie Eilish]

Philip.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. You have a cat named Philip?

[Angela Kinsey]

I didn't realize that.

[Billie Eilish]

Oh, because you named her cat. That's right.

[Jenna Fischer]

Because it was named after. After my grandfather.

[Billie Eilish]

But it was named after Cat. Yes. Cuz you're. Oh, that's a tricky one.

[Angela Kinsey]

Was named after my cat.

[Billie Eilish]

It's after my cat. Oh, my God, that's tricky.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay, what's our score? What's our tally?

[Jenna Fischer]

Our score is. Jenna, you still only had two points.

[Billie Eilish]

What? I said garbage.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay, okay, I'll give you one. No, fine. I.

[Angela Kinsey]

This is fine. You have three points.

[Billie Eilish]

Angela, you have seven points.

[Jenna Fischer]

Billy, you have 10 points. Well, Billi, thank you so much for coming in and chatting with us. This was an absolute delight. We could talk to you all day. Thank you.

[Angela Kinsey]

We just love you so much. We're so happy to have spent this time with you.

[Billie Eilish]

Thank you. We'll come back whenever you want me to. Yay.

[Jenna Fischer]

Thank you for listening to Office Ladies. Office Ladies is produced by Earwolf, Jenna Fisher, and Angela Kinsey. Our show is executive produced by Cody Fisher. Our producer is Cassie Jerkins. Our sound engineer is Sam Kiefer, and our associate producer is Ainslie Bubaco.

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