An Interview with Calvin Tenner (Glenn from the Warehouse)

Summary

Office Ladies Podcast Summary

Episode: An Interview with Calvin Tenner (Glenn from the Warehouse)

Date: May 20, 2026
Hosts: Jenna Fischer & Angela Kinsey
Guest: Calvin Tenner (“Glenn,” “Calvin,” “Lester” from The Office Warehouse Crew)

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Overview

This week, Jenna and Angela welcome Calvin Tenner (known as Glenn, Calvin, AND Lester in the Warehouse on The Office) for a heartfelt, funny, and nostalgic interview. They reminisce about the show's behind-the-scenes family atmosphere, Calvin’s unlikely journey into acting, and what it was like to shift from background extra to beloved recurring character. The episode features classic Office cast camaraderie, Office trivia, engaging fan questions, and inside stories about life in Scranton and beyond.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

Setting the Record Straight: Outrageous Online Trivia

[03:03–08:12]

• Angela and Jenna open with hilarious (and frustrating) personal anecdotes about bizarre “facts” circulating online, including:
  • Claims Jenna wears Pam’s engagement ring in real life (“Not true. I do have Pam’s rings … but the props department, Phil Shea, gave them to me, along with Pam’s purse, sweater, and watch.” – Jenna, [03:15])
  • Angela tackles a wild rumor about her family “collecting body parts,” which arose from a prank foot story her mom pulled.
  • Both stress how online trivia mutates, often via “the telephone game” and AI errors.

“Lady, the Internet’s a wackadoodle place.” – Jenna [04:48]

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Fan Chitchat: The Great Top Sheet Debate

[08:50–14:27]

• Listener Emily asks: “Do you use a top sheet?”
• Both Jenna and Angela passionately defend the top sheet tradition, noting generational differences and the practicality of washing sheets more often than comforters.
• Producers Sam and C, representing “the youth,” admit no top sheets for them—citing “top sheet money” as the new “millennials ruin diamonds” meme.

“I feel strongly about a top sheet for all the reasons Emily’s saying.” – Jenna [11:53]
“Top sheet money. If they come together in a sheet set—” – Angela [12:38]
“You go to Target and you get a fitted sheet, a top sheet and two pillowcases in a bundle.” – Angela [13:48]

• Surprises ensue when Sam receives a giant blanket with their dog Ramen’s face as a belated birthday present ([14:27–15:19]).

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Interview: Calvin Tenner (Glenn/Calvin/Lester from the Warehouse)

[19:39–43:01]

Getting the Gig: Forklift Skills to Scranton

• Calvin started as a background actor, hired due to his real-life certification operating forklifts!

  "I was a supervisor at a corrugation plant … had my forklift certification … a guy at 24 Hour Fitness told me, 'You should be on TV!'” – Calvin [20:44–21:38]

• First day on set: He postponed his wedding to be on The Office, flying out straight after shooting his first episode ([22:36–23:10]).

Becoming Part of the Family

• Cast and crew chipped in to send Calvin a $3,000 wedding gift.

  “Rain sent that to me, and I was in tears in Florida on the beach, because I didn’t know that everyone cared like that, you know?” – Calvin [24:30]

• He recalls being warmly welcomed, and how this generosity was typical of the show’s culture.

Transition from Background to Speaking Role

• Never saw The Office before working on it. Describes set as “acting class”—he learned by watching the cast improvise and interact ([28:33–29:10]).
• On getting lines: He recalls excitement and nerves:

  “I was just like, oh my God, I’m speaking… you could see that excitement on my face, when it shouldn’t have been that.” – Calvin [30:12]

Favorite and Memorable Episodes

• Reminisces about physical scenes, notably Steve Carell’s “puking” in Fun Run.

• Discusses the warehouse winning the lottery storyline and the anxiety of possibly being written out:

  “Me and Hide were talking: ‘Hey, man, we might not come back!’” – Calvin [34:25] “The last episode, my agent calls me and said, hey, they’re bringing you back.” [35:03]

• Shares love for ensemble scenes, and the “gift that keeps giving” nature of being in The Office.

Twin Brother Cameo & Recognition

• Calvin’s identical twin cameoed in the Matrix prank episode ([36:13]) and often gets mistaken for him by fans.

Reflections on the Show’s Legacy

• The continued outpouring of fan love, conventions, and even real-life tattoos of his character:

  “The Office is, like, one of them shows that most people wish they were a part of… I didn’t know what I was getting into …” – Calvin [36:44] “It’s the gift that keeps giving, because it’s not going anywhere.” – Calvin [40:15]

• Jenna and Angela praise Calvin’s positivity on long shoot days:

  “You would always have the biggest smile on your face, like, zero complaints. So happy to be here.” – Angela [41:59]

“Whenever you feel welcome, you’re happy. So you guys welcomed me into a family… all I can do is smile and be happy and appreciate it… there’s no bad days, at least in my book, you know?” – Calvin [42:11]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• [24:29]
  “He was so embarrassed … I had to introduce her as my wife.” – Calvin, on bringing his wife to set post-wedding
• [27:08]
  “Fun run was a great episode … just watching someone puke on camera constantly …” – Calvin, on field days with Steve Carell
• [33:16]
  Audio clip reenacted:
  “You mean to tell me no one wanted an energy drink for Asian homosexuals? … I gotta try it.”
  “What's the flavor?”
  “Coconut penis.”
  “Coconut is pretty subtle.” – Calvin, Hide & Angela, dying with laughter over iconic “Free Family Portrait” scene
• [36:18]
  “You and your twin are the glitch in the Matrix.” – Angela
• [41:59]
  Jenna: “You would always have the biggest smile on your face, like, zero complaints. So happy to be here.”
• [42:11]
  Calvin: “Whenever you feel welcome, you're happy. So you guys welcomed me into a family …”

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Fan Q&A and Office Recommendations

[48:33–52:27]

• “What should Office fans watch?” Answers include:
  • Modern Family (Jenna)
  • Arrested Development and Reno 911 (Angela)
  • Superstore, Jury Duty, St. Denis Medical, Animal Control, Larry Sanders Show, Fleabag
  • Jenna plugs her recurring role in The Chit Show digital series
  • Angela teases a GalaxyCon Raleigh appearance with Rainn Wilson

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Around the Town

[44:50–48:33]

• Stories submitted by listeners about creative community recycling programs and quirky local traditions, plus a listener who threw herself a “cone”-themed album party.

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Conclusion & Tone

The episode is playful, warm, and filled with nostalgic joy—true to the “Office Ladies” tone. Calvin’s infectious positivity (“there’s no bad days, at least in my book”) leaves both hosts and listeners grinning. The mutual affection between cast members and the gratitude for the show’s unending fandom make this both an entertaining and uplifting listen for Office devotees and casual fans alike.

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Quick Reference Timestamps

• Online Rumors & Props: [03:03–08:12]
• Top Sheet Debate: [08:50–14:27]
• Birthday Blanket: [14:27–15:19]
• Calvin Tenner Interview Begins: [19:39]
• Forklift/Entry Story: [20:44–21:38]
• Wedding Gift Story: [23:07–24:29]
• Getting Lines on The Office: [29:10–30:28]
• Fun Run Memories: [27:47–28:07]
• Free Family Portrait Clip: [33:14–33:56]
• Matrix Twin Story: [36:13–36:30]
• Reflections and Positivity: [41:59–42:37]
• Office Recommendations: [48:33–52:27]

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Final Word:

“We set the record straight on some things. We got to talk to Calvin. We learned about this. Incredible… I kind of want to go next May to the Iowa yard sale!” – Jenna [52:27]

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I'm Jenna Fisher.

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And I'm Angela Kinsey.

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We were on the Office together and we're best friends and now we're doing the Ultimate Office Lovers podcast just for you.

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Each week we will dive deeper into the world of the Office with exclusive interviews behind the scenes details and lots of BFF stories.

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We're the Office Lady 6.0. Hello.

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Hi.

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How you doing?

[A]

I'm doing pretty good.

[B]

I was doing pretty good, and then I just got a text, and now I'm in grumps.

[A]

Oh.

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Can I tell you what it is?

[A]

Yeah.

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Because this is actually an opportunity for me to set something straight.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Am I coming in hot?

[A]

You're coming in a little spicy. What you got?

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All right, right before we got on mic, I'm checking my phone, and my mom has sent me this text, and she sent me this screenshot where she's like, facts about famous actresses.

[A]

Oh, no.

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I know.

[A]

Don't send me that.

[B]

She's like, Santa. I found this online. Is this true? Here's the fact about me. Jenna Fisher still owns the engagement ring her co star John Krasinski gave her on the Office, and she has even been seen wearing it off screen. Everyone settle down. Not true. I do have Pam's rings, which were, by the way, given to Pam from Jim. Right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I also have Pam's purse. I also have Pam's sweater. I have Pam's watch.

[A]

Who gave those items to you? Was the props department, Phil Shea. Phil Shea, who also gave me my cat earrings that Angela Martin wore.

[B]

Yes. Phil Shea put together a wonderful package when the show ended of all of these items. Pam's purse. I remember he gave John the satchel that Jim always carried.

[A]

Crossbody bag.

[B]

Crossbody bag. So he collected little items for us.

[A]

He gave me Dwight and Angela's wedding program.

[B]

Yes. You have the ring that Dwight gives Angela, right? Yes. So, yes, I have this ring. I have it, along with many other items that I have.

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It has nothing attached to it other than memorabilia from a show you were on that you loved, Correct? Correct.

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And you know what ring I wear is my actual wedding ring from my actual real life.

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Actual real life husband of 16 years

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who I love with all my heart.

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Yes. Yes.

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Sometimes it's just so hard.

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Lady, the Internet's a wackadoodle place.

[B]

It is.

[A]

And I told you my crazy story.

[B]

Oh, my gosh, you guys, this is crazy.

[A]

This story is so crazy. Sam, you don't know this story, but it's bonkers. You gotta hear this. I told Jenna this the other day. Okay, so you guys know I did a charity tennis match with Steve Carell, his wife Nancy, and Rainn Wilson. And it was all to go towards supporting Rainn's amazing charity Lide Hait. And after the tennis match, there was, like, a little meet and greet and this man was there, and he had sort of like an assistant person with him. He was lovely, by the way, but you could tell he was very excited that he had found different little pieces of trivia about us online.

[B]

Again, it's the trivia.

[A]

It's the trivia, which is probably just an AI bot that gets half the information right, and then the rest is wrong. So, like, I forget the information that he knew about Steve. It was something like, oh, maybe his parents, how they met or something. I can't remember. Right. And Steve was like, oh, yeah, that's correct. Cause probably he talked about it in an interview somewhere, right? And then he turns to me and he goes, angela, your family collects body parts. Exactly. So I start laughing like that. I said, what? I thought it was a joke. I thought I was getting punked somehow. I was like, what? And then Steve literally was taking a sip of water and almost spit it all over me. He started laughing so hard. And we looked at each other, and I was like, what are you talking about? He turns to his assistant, like, and she goes, the foot. And he goes, there was a foot that you guys had, like, a foot. I was like, oh, my gosh. I said, you guys, you know how at Halloween you can go into Spencer's gifts in the mall?

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Yeah. Get, like, a foot that hangs out of the trunk.

[A]

Get a foot that hangs out of the trunk. Ha ha ha. My mom got one of those, and instead of hanging it out of the trunk of the car, and she put it by the bathroom door by our back door as, like, a prank. And we all were like. And we were like, mom. And it was a story I told where they were like, who's the prankster in your family? I'm like, my mom was kind of a prankster. I told this one story. I'm like, oh, my gosh. Are there people somewhere in the world that think I have, like, a foot in a jar that we collect this crap? But now all I can think about is, oh, my God, now I've told the story here. Now, AI is going to take this. This is going to go into a transcript. The story is out there in a second way.

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But I'm hoping. I want to set the record straight. AI, if you're listening, will you please stop telling this story about me? Because I've read this multiple times over the years, ever since I was on a talk show and I gave a list of things that I kept from the show, and this was one of the things in the list. And somehow the telephone game has turned this into something else.

[A]

Here's the thing I'm going to say, if you're going to have an AI bot get something horribly wrong. Maybe the jewelry tidbit is better than the like collects body parts. Can we just say that it does make me feel a little better. I haven't told my mom this story, you guys, but I feel like I need to because I feel like there's gonna be someone at church that comes up to her and is like, birdie, what's up with you?

[B]

And this. What's with the feet? Well, Angela, I do appreciate you telling that story because I had the grumps and now I'm laughing. So thank you.

[A]

You're welcome.

[B]

And I'm actually really excited about our episod. I'm happy to be here. We get to talk with Calvin Tenner, who played Glen in the warehouse.

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You guys, he is just an absolute joyful person and I really can't wait for you all to get to know him better.

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And I've been reunited with him now over the last few years working on the AT&T commercial campaign. So I'm just excited I get to see him again today. Same. Because he just is wonderful.

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Same. Same. Jen and I were really fortunate. We got to hang out and spend a lot of time with him over the past couple of years between fan conventions and AT and T. And you're going to see why we love them. You just wait.

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But let's start with our fan chitchat question of the week. This is coming from Emily A in Tucson, Arizona.

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Hi Angela and Jenna, this is Emily. I live in Tucson, Arizona and I really enjoy your podcast. Thank you so much for all that you do. My Friday chitchat question is I'm taking a poll on the use of a top sheet on the bed. All of my children, even though I raised them using a top sheet, would just kick them to the end of the bed, even though I very crankily explained that the comforter and bedspread did not get washed that frequently. So it seems a younger generation thing that there's no top sheet. And I just wondered if you guys use a top sheet if you have your kids use a top sheet. And just what is the deal with not using a top sheet? Thank you. And I look forward to your opinion

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on the matter, Emily. Everything about that message is wonderful.

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The journey I went on listening to that message. I have so many strong feelings about it that I didn't even realize I knew I had.

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Well, you know, she also wrote us a letter that went with this audio clip. And I'd like you to know if she seems weary at all about this top sheet issue. She's talking about her kids. She raised 10. 10 kids.

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10.

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Yeah. So this is 10 beds of top sheets not being used.

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Yeah.

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Okay. I just want to give it some perspective. Well, what are your thoughts, lady? How do you feel about a top sheet? Again, it's something that I didn't know I had an opinion on, but I actually did.

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I have a very strong opinion on it. I'm all for a top sheet.

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Same.

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I love a top sheet. And here's the thing. I grew up with the top sheet. And then, of course, on Isabel's bed, I had a top sheet. You know, pull back the blanket in her top sheet, crawl in, tuck her in. You know, bedtime story. And then when Josh and I got married and we blended our families and the boys shared a room and they had bunk beds, and I would make their bed and I'd put a top sheet on.

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Sure.

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Under the comforter. And then I would go in to say goodnight to them. And they would either be lying on top of the top sheet and have not have pulled it back, or the next morning I would find the top sheet completely rolled in a ball at the foot of the bed.

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Just like Emily is saying.

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Just like Emily is saying. And this cycle went over and over and I would be like, guys, the top sheet. And they'd be like, I don't really need it. I don't really want it. This was like a battle. Josh was like, let it go. Let this one go. And so now it's like, I do have a top sheet on their beds. I still put it on. Sometimes they're under it, sometimes they're on top of it. Sometimes it's at the foot of the bed. I've let it go, but I still put it on the bed.

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I feel strongly about a top sheet for all the reasons Emily is saying, which is that I don't wash the comforter cover.

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Yes.

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But I'll wash the sheet. That's what the top sheet is for. That it's for. I mean, the purpose of it.

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Exactly. The comforter cover takes a lot more time to wash, to dry, so you do that every once in a while. But the sheets you wash more regularly.

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Well, I think she's onto something. Cause I do think this is a trend where the younger generation is abandoning the top sheet because it's too much work. Well, I don't even know, but I.

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Or I think it might be a classic case of top sheets in this economy. Like, this strikes me as one of those. But this strikes me as one of those articles where it's like, are millennials ruining the diamond business? And you're like, who's buying diamonds?

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I disagree.

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Who out there has top sheet money in this economy?

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Top sheet money. Top sheet money. If they come together in a sheet

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set and you can buy them separately, I guess, but, like, they come in a bundle. Except. And this is my point, because I think maybe people are wanting to drop the top sheet is that I went to buy, like, a new comforter and sheets for my daughter's bed, and when they arrived, there was no top sheet. It was just a fitted sheet. And then this cover that I put on her comforter, and I was grumpy about it because now I have to wash it all the time. And now I have to wrestle her duvet back into this top sheet slash, comforter cover.

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You know what's happened?

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What?

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The comforter cover. People have come for the top sheet. Oh, my God. That's it. That's what's happened. We just cracked a case. Mom. Detective, high five.

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Yes. All right, Emily.

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That got us going. Sam, I'm sorry. Top sheet or no, for you.

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No.

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No top sheets.

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No, no, no top sheet. I can't afford a top sheet.

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I'm not.

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You can't afford a top sheet?

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I don't have a fainting couch in my living room.

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What is this? Oh, my gosh.

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Glass chandelier.

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This is ridiculous. You go to Target and you get a fitted sheet, a top sheet, and two pillowcases in a bundle.

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Well, listen, we're not gonna provide you with a top sheet today, but speaking of bedding, we've got a little something for you because your birthday was last week, which, although as y' all are listening to this, last month we celebrated

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off mic because we weren't recording that

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day, but we have a late breaking gift that has come out. Great for you to have it.

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You might remember when you opened your gifts from us.

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I do remember when we opened it,

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we said there was something coming. Yes. Now I wish we would have bought him a dang top sheet to go with it, though. All right, here, I'm gonna go grab it. Come on in here, Sam.

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Okay.

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I love the bag.

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Will you describe it?

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It's a Star wars bag. Specifically the original series. Star Wars.

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Thank you.

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Oh, my God. This is huge.

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All right, just describe it.

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You have to describe is a entire me sized blanket of my dog Ramen. Oh, I love it.

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It's a 50 by 60 blanket of your dog's face.

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This is bigger than you are.

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It is.

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Oh, thank you so much.

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We kind of thought, like, what does Sam love more than anything? It's ramen.

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And naps with ramen.

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Yeah.

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And naps with ramen.

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And now you can snuggle ramen in ramen.

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Yeah.

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Thank you.

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All right, well, listen, happy birthday, Sam.

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We love you guys.

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We are going to take a and when we come back, we are going to chat with Calvin Tenner, who played

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Glenn from the warehouse.

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Okay, lady, I have a big share. It's kind of gonna blow your mind. So you know my niece Cece.

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Yeah.

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Who we named Jim and Pam's baby after Cece.

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Yeah.

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Oh, my gosh. She was a baby.

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She was just born when Jim and Pam's baby was born. So that means Jim and Pam's baby also just got her driver's license.

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Oh, I can't even. That's a mind meld, isn't it?

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I mean, can you imagine? I mean, Jim is taking Cece out driving, and Pam is there trying to help fictional Cece get a little car. And I'm doing that with the real Cece. I'm helping my sister find a car for my niece. Cause she's got a summer job and she's gonna be driving to her summer job. Oh, yeah. All that.

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Yeah. Isn't jack. You know, they're driving to school now. They're very excited. They carpool. It's a wild world.

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[E]

Hey.

[B]

Welcome to office ladies.

[E]

It's nice to be here. Thank you ladies for having me.

[A]

You guys might know him as Glen, but we love him as Calvin.

[E]

Yes. And I also had two other name tags on the show which was Calvin and Lester.

[A]

That's right. That's a little office trivia. I feel like they play this trivia game at bars and stuff and that's a good one.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. So who did you start as? Lester and then Calvin and then Glenn. Or were you Glenn and then Calvin at one point?

[E]

Again, no, it was Lester, then Calvin, then Glenn.

[B]

Okay.

[E]

Which was crazy. I was like, another name tag. I'm like, yes.

[A]

No one's keeping track. Well, I did see in the episode the COVID up, that Darrel calls you Glenn.

[E]

Correct.

[A]

So your name is officially said in the series as Glenn.

[E]

Correct.

[B]

Well, we always like to start by asking people the same question, which is, how did you get your job on the Office? And I read a tidbit that said it might have had something to do with the fact that you were certified to use a forklift in real life.

[E]

Correct.

[B]

Okay, tell us this story.

[E]

Yeah, so I was pretty much a background actor on Office, as you know. But the reason how I got there was because I had a certification to drive a forklift and stuff like that. So my background, I was a supervisor at a corrugation plant in San Jose, California. And one morning I told my boss, I'm putting in my two weeks notice. And that kind of ended right there that day because he was kind of mad at me. He said, you can leave now. And I was like, ooh. Okay.

[B]

Now, had you gotten the background job in the Office when you gave the two weeks notice?

[E]

I was still in the Bay Area at this time.

[B]

Okay. And then what made you want to get into putting yourself out there for acting at all?

[E]

So after I moved to LA, I was in 24 Hour Fitness.

[A]

Okay.

[E]

And a guy told me, he was like, you should be on tv.

[A]

You were just working out?

[E]

Yeah, just working out. And a guy approached me and said, you should be on tv. And I was like, oh, okay. So how do you do that? So I just did some research, and that's how I became on the show.

[A]

So this is like an old Hollywood lore story where it's like Greta Garbo's like, somewhere, and they're like, you should be in the movie.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

I call it Right places at the Right Time.

[B]

Well, was the Office your first job then in the entertainment industry?

[E]

The Office was actually my third.

[A]

Okay, what was your first job?

[E]

I was doing other background stuff, so it was my first official booking.

[A]

Was the Office.

[C]

Yes.

[E]

Was the Office. Wow. Yes, that's what I said. Wow.

[B]

I mean, had you seen the show before?

[E]

Never seen the show.

[A]

Okay, so will you share with us? Like, what was your first day like on set? What episode was it? Will you paint us a picture?

[E]

Okay, I'm gonna take you guys way back.

[A]

Okay.

[E]

All right. So I remember back in. This is back in 2008, me and my wife were planning to get married. So what happened was I already. We got married in Florida. So we had booked our tickets. So I was called to work on an episode, and I told them, I said, well, I'll leave To go to Florida tonight. Cause I'm getting married. I said, but you know what? I'm gonna postpone that and just come shoot the episode.

[A]

You postponed your wedding to come shoot the episode?

[E]

Yes. Yeah. So I postponed it, and I went and shot the episode. And I was still background at this time on the show. And once we shot, I caught a red eye to Florida. And the day we got married was. We got married. 8. 8. At 8:08. 2008. So the next day, I get a call from Rainn Wilson, and he said, we put together a little care package for you for your wedding. And I was like, what? Like, I was very ecstatic. I was like, you kidding me? Right? So I want to say they sent me, like, three grand.

[B]

What?

[E]

Exactly.

[A]

Guess what? You know what? I actually am now remembering. Here's the thing. This is very early on. I remember Rain was like, hey, you guys, one of the warehouse workers is getting married. Is getting married. And now that you're saying this, I remember we all took up, like, everyone chipped in. Cast and crew.

[B]

Yes, correct.

[A]

Yes, correct.

[E]

Cast and crew.

[B]

Well, I remember we used to do that sometimes.

[A]

We did. Actually. We did it quite often for different occasions in people's lives. Graduations, baby showers, things like that. We would all chip in as cast and crew.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, my gosh. And Rain, I never knew how that got to you.

[E]

Yes.

[A]

That is wonderful.

[E]

Rain sent that to me, and I was in tears in Florida on the beach, because I didn't know that everyone cared like that, you know? So we got married. When me and my wife came back, I remember we went up to the office, went up to the set, and you guys were at lunchtime. And that's when I introduced my wife to everyone. I brought, like, a chocolate basket with the chocolate fruit.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

And I introduced my wife. And then we thanked you guys for that gift. And she was so embarrassed, like. Cause I had her standing next to me and I had to introduce her as my wife.

[A]

Aw.

[E]

But it was so fun. It was amazing. And I think at that point in time, some of the writers didn't get a chance to add to it.

[B]

They hadn't. Yeah, the writers hadn't chipped in yet.

[E]

Yeah. So I get a call maybe a week later, and they wrote me in an episode. So I was like, wait a minute. Is this the Hollywood dream about to come true? Really?

[A]

This is something really special about the Office. I feel like it is a really special. You know, Jen and I talk about it for years now on this podcast that it was a really special group of people.

[B]

And when you became a part of the office family, you were part of the office family.

[E]

Correct.

[B]

And we wanted to celebrate your accomplishments. We wanted to be with you if you were in hard times, you know. Cause there are people, cast and crew, who went through hard times, and we rallied around them as well, you know, financially, emotionally. It was just a special place to work.

[E]

Yes, it was amazing.

[B]

Positive.

[E]

Yes, yes. Everyone's so amaz on that show.

[B]

Well, when you first got your job and you're like, okay, I'm gonna be a background player on this show, first of all, did you know that would recur? Did they say you might be back? Okay, so you're like, this is a one off that now you are getting a gift for your wedding and you're a part of it and they're writing you in more episodes.

[E]

Exactly, exactly. They were like, you know, they could keep asking you to come back.

[B]

Okay.

[E]

So I was like, okay. And in my head, as long as I keep doing great work, they'll ask me to come back. So that's what kept happening. They asked me to come back. Then they asked me to come back again. I didn't know that it was going to be a reoccurring part. I just thought it was like a one and done until my agent had called me. Hey, they want you to come back. Hey, they want you to come back again.

[A]

Well, in the Warehouse, you're heavily featured. I mean, I was kind of going through your IMDb list of episodes. There's 16.

[E]

Yes.

[A]

So then I just started poking around and there were moments that I had forgotten about. And I have to ask you about one. Okay, so obviously you have some great scenes between Glen and Darryl, but I want to ask you about Fun Run Part 2. Michael crosses the finish line finally, and he pukes. And you're the person standing right next to him. And I mean, I know that's like this gag that Steve Carell had to. To make that all happen, but you're the closest person to them. And I have to know, what was that like? Do you have a vivid memory of times when you were on set that you were like, I will never forget that.

[E]

Yes, the fun run was a great episode. Just to be out there on the streets, just running. Cut. And then you go around the corner, run again, Cut. Then meet up at the park.

[A]

Cut.

[E]

But that was my first time just watching someone puke on camera constantly, you know, So I thought that was pretty funny.

[A]

And you didn't break off. Did you ever break in a Scene.

[E]

Did I ever. You know what? At that point in time, I was like, I want to keep coming back, so. No.

[A]

Right, right. I'm not going to be the one. Yeah.

[B]

I have to ask. So you had never seen the show, and now you're on the show. Like, what was your first impression of this crazy show that you were now on? Did anyone explain, like, this is a document or anything?

[E]

No.

[B]

Okay.

[E]

No. I had to start watching it for myself. And then I don't know if you ladies knew it, but I always stood on set and watched you all do your thing. So it was like acting class for me, you know, just to watch you all go off of each other. And you guys were able to add certain things into it, too. And it was just so crazy to me. Cause I thought you had to be on script, but some of it was off script as well. So I was like, oh, this is interesting. Like, hey, I want to do this. Like.

[A]

And so when we were in the warehouse, you were just taking your, like, mental notes. Mental notes.

[E]

I was just spinning, spinning and spinning, and my head was just spinning. I was like, oh, my God.

[B]

So what happens when they're like, okay, we're going to give you lines because you started off background.

[E]

Correct, Correct.

[B]

So now do you remember when they're like, we have some words to do.

[E]

I remember.

[B]

Cause, you know, Creed started off as background.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

And then all of a sudden, they're

[A]

like, had this huge scene.

[B]

Here's a scene.

[E]

Yes.

[B]

And he was like, oh, okay, I'm speaking now.

[E]

And that's what I heard. And I was like, oh, great for Creed. I remember the episode. It's when Michael Scott comes down. This is when he was talking about having a baby. And Craig was on the couch, and I was sitting on the bench, and he said something to Craig, and I was like, I forgot the words that I said. But. And when I seen that episode on tv, I was like, yeah, we gotta work on some things. Because at that point in time, I was still in the, ah, moment.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

And you could see it on my face. And I was just like, oh, my God, I'm speaking really like. And you could see that excitement on my face when it shouldn't have been that. So I had to work on some things. But after seeing that, I was like, okay. All right.

[A]

Well, you had a great scene in the St. Patrick's Day episode.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

So you go up, you're in Darrell's office. Right. Cause now, basically, he has this pitch to Joe Bennett about how to, like, make the whole Process of, like, delivering paper. Like, better and more expedited. And so she's like, fine. You know what? You need to be up here in the main office. Take Jim's office. And then there's this great scene where you and the other warehouse guys, you're gonna go up to Darrell's new office, and you're like, we're gonna bust you out of here. And then you kind of give him shade. You're like, dude, did you tuck your shirt in?

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

No, no, no, no. You have some real laugh moments in that scene.

[E]

Yeah. Yeah. I always had fun working with Craig. We kind of developed a great friendship on that show.

[A]

Mm.

[E]

I mean, I had friends in la, but I didn't really have a friend like that in la. You know, we hung out outside the show.

[A]

And you still hang out together and work together.

[E]

Correct.

[A]

Can you share a little bit about that with everyone?

[E]

Yeah. So after the office, Craig was. I want to say, he was about to shoot Mr. Robinson, and they needed a stunt guy for him, and I didn't have anything going on, so I approached the stunt coordinator, and I told him, I said, hey, if you don't ask Craig stunt double yet, I said, I'll grow my hair out, grow my beard out. We're good to go. He was like, come see me in two months. When I came and seen him, he was like, oh, okay, you fit it. Let's go. So then I started taking stunt classes and stuff like that, but me and him been rocking ever since.

[B]

Yeah, you double for him a lot. We did that commercial for AT&T where you doubled for him. You're, like, covered in all the pillows and you have to bust through a door.

[E]

Correct. So that was fun.

[A]

And then we did a whole second round of Wake Up With Craig. And you were on set every day. You worked all day. We were with you all day long.

[E]

Correct. I did the driving scene on that one too, as well.

[A]

Yes.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. So there's a scene where we all pull up to the new office and you drive in as Craig. Yeah, yeah.

[E]

They were like, yeah, just drive this Mustang, like, 40 miles an hour down this alley and then make a hard

[A]

right into the parking spot, like. And you did it.

[C]

You did it.

[A]

And by the way, we're standing there, we're like, what, two feet from the car? I'm like, calvin, you got this. You're like, yeah, I got it.

[E]

Yeah. Got it. Great moments. Great moments.

[A]

Well, there's a scene between Glen and Daryl and also hide. And it's from Free Family Portrait.

[B]

Oh, my God. It's so funny.

[A]

It's so funny.

[B]

It's so good.

[A]

I thought I could see you about to break. I thought. Now I know you didn't, but there's a little twinkle in your eye once you know, you and. Wait, can we hear it? Yes. The audio.

[B]

Let's listen to it.

[E]

Let me get this straight. You lost all of it? All your winnings? $150,000. But economy. But investment. You mean to tell me no one wanted an energy drink for Asian homosexuals? They did not. And you got half a million of. Well, I gotta try it. I wouldn't. Oh, come on. What's the heart? Mmm. Flavor's that coconut penis. Coconut is pretty subtle.

[B]

Your timing is so good.

[A]

They did not.

[E]

They did not.

[A]

I wouldn't. And then also when he's like, the coconut is pretty subtle. It's, like, so funny. But that's such a great storyline that the whole Warehouse wins the lottery.

[E]

Yes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then quits and quits and, like, moons. Everybody, like, you guys really, like, come up and, like, dance around and be like, f you. Everyone.

[B]

I have a question for you. When you guys quit, were you worried? Were you, like.

[A]

No.

[B]

What is this storyline?

[E]

Exactly? Exactly.

[B]

Come on.

[E]

I was like, we win a lotto, and what happens after that? I was like, oh, my God. Just the end of us. And me and he day were talking. I was like, hey, man, we might not come back. So after we won the lottery, we left, and I was just watching episodes of the Office. I was just like, oh, my God, are they gonna write us back in? What's gonna happen? So the last episode, my agent calls me and said, hey, they're bringing you back. I was like, oh, my goodness. So the last episode of season eight, they brought us back, and that's where that scene came from. I was like, thank you.

[A]

That scene is so great. I want you to know I went down the rabbit hole looking for bloopers. I was positive that there was a blooper from that scene. I actually really wanna reach out to Dave Rogers and be like, I know you guys look like you're about to lose it, but if I find that blooper, I'm gonna send it to you.

[E]

Yeah. He day is so funny. And we're still friends to this day as well, so. Yeah. He day is a good friend of mine.

[A]

I had such a fun time hanging out with you guys at the office fan convention.

[E]

Yes.

[A]

And just catching up. And he is the sweetest.

[E]

Yes.

[A]

The sweetest guy.

[B]

He is. And I have a Question, sort of in that vein, how has being on the Office changed your life? Cause you're going to these fan conventions now. You must get recognized.

[E]

Correct. Correct. Funny story. Before I cut my hair and all of that stuff, I do recognize a lot. But now my twin brother gets recognized as me on the Office. Because he still looks like that.

[A]

Yes.

[E]

So it's amazing. And when he's out and about and he calls me up and he says, hey, or he'll text me first, can I FaceTime you? Someone wants to say hi. They thought I was you. So I want to introduce him to the real you.

[B]

But he was also on an episode.

[E]

Yes, the Matrix.

[A]

The Matrix was pranking Dwight so that Dwight thinks he's in the Matrix.

[E]

Correct.

[A]

And so the glitch in the Matrix where you see the, like, carbon footprint of yourself and, you know there's a glitch. You know, like how the cat crosses the road twice. It's you and your twin are the glitch in the Matrix.

[E]

Correct.

[A]

That's amazing.

[B]

Well, so when people run into him and ask him if he's on the Office, he's like, technically, yes, but I think the person you want to talk to is my brother.

[E]

Correct.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Correct. It's funny to me. It's funny and so great at the same time.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

You know, the Office is, like, one of them shows that most people wish they were a part of. I mean, I didn't know what I was getting into. I'm pretty sure you ladies didn't either.

[A]

Oh, no way.

[E]

So this thing is, like, it's still out there, just making new fans, you

[A]

know, it's pretty wild, right?

[E]

Correct.

[A]

Yeah. And the people that love it know it so well. They will know that your character had three names. Like, they know all those details, you know?

[E]

Correct. I mean, there was a woman at the convention, and she has the Holy Grail tattooed on her calf.

[A]

That is crazy that you dip your donut into your character.

[E]

Correct.

[A]

Oh, my gosh.

[E]

She was like, I want to show you something. So she has Michael Scott tattooed on her arm or something like that. So she has everyone tattooed on her body. And I was like, oh, my God. So the fans are amazing.

[A]

They are. They're a wonderful community. I'm so thankful for them. I am so curious. We ask anyone, you know, that we've had on here that's been on the Office if they had a favorite scene or episode or just, what is your fan moment from being on the Office, the episode you love?

[E]

Oh, man, there's so many.

[A]

I Know, it's hard, right? We get asked this question all the time.

[E]

You know what? I love all your episodes with Rain. The interaction between you guys, it's so comical. And your love story with Jim, it's like, couldn't get any better than that, you know, like I said, I was just a person in the backfield watching you guys work. So every part of that show I love, you know, there's not just one episode that I loved. I loved it all. I'm like, let's go back and do it again. Not to shoot what we already shot. Let's go back and do it again. You know what I mean?

[A]

That would be really cool. We've talked about that. If we could go back to one episode or one moment and do it again. And I feel like we always say, like, just a one big ensemble scene where we're all together.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, I was watching Weight Loss where we're all in the warehouse and we're all standing on that and like Andy sort of like spits, thinks he's gonna lose weight by spitting. And you give him such a, like, oh, my God, terrifying, like, scary look. But we were all in this little. Or we'd be in a conference room scene. Those kind of moments where we were all together. Those really special moments.

[E]

Yes, it was all special. Yes.

[B]

Well, before we let you go, is there anything about your time on the Office that you haven't shared with us? Any behind the scenes stories or memories?

[E]

We spent so much time on that show. I think every moment that I spent on the show was a great memory for me. There's not one that stood out because I was just so excited to get there, you know, whenever I was working, just to see you all, you know, and be a part of it. So, yeah, just being there every time I had a chance to be there was a great memory for me. Yeah, it was great people, great food.

[A]

Always great food, great comedy.

[B]

But also, like, how crazy is it that this thing that we did so long ago, it's still being watched, it's still beloved, and, you know, it's endured. You're part of that, you know, you're part of this wonderful thing.

[E]

I tell some of my family members. I'm like, it's the gift that keeps giving because it's not going anywhere. It's right there in front of your face. If you turn on the tv, it's right there. You don't really have to search that hard for it. Just go through the channels. The Office?

[A]

Yeah, the office. Oh, my gosh. Have you been on a plane and watched someone watch the Office?

[E]

I have. I have.

[A]

I have, yeah.

[E]

And a part of me want to say, hey, I was in that.

[B]

They totally love it.

[E]

I have yet to see someone watch an episode I was on, but I've seen people watch it, you know, so that's amazing.

[B]

And what does your family think? Are you the first actor in the family? The first person to work in the entertainment industry?

[E]

Yes.

[B]

So what is that?

[E]

Like, my mom thinks it's hilarious.

[B]

Okay.

[E]

You know, she's like, so, what are you working on now? Like, what are you doing today? Like, so. And she knows, like, I'm always on set doing something, because I'm pretty sure you already know me. Well, my wife owns. She owns House of Talent, a commercial casting company. TV and film, stuff like that. So. And we're always on set, so it's amazing.

[A]

You know, I have to say something. All those years we were working together, and we'd be on the set, and sometimes there'd be really long shoot days, especially for some reason when we were in the warehouse in particular, I feel like there were really big plot lines or big stories over there.

[B]

Well, it was very cavernous, and so they would spend more time figuring out where to put the cameras sometimes, because it was a very big space.

[A]

Very big space.

[B]

So there was a lot of coverage down there.

[A]

And my memory of you on those long days is just looking over at you, and you would always have the biggest smile on your face, like, zero complaints. So happy to be here.

[E]

Whenever you feel welcome, you're happy. So. So you guys welcomed me into a family, and I was like, oh, man. Okay. All right. So that's all I can do is smile and be happy and appreciate it, you know? So I appreciate my time on that show and everything I've done after that. So I appreciate all of it, because every day is a great day, you know, there's no bad days, at least in my book, you know?

[A]

My gosh, Calvin, we need more of you in this world. I'm telling you right now.

[B]

Oh, well, thank you for coming today.

[A]

Come on, Hellman. You just. Absolute ray of sunshine of a human. Thanks so much for being here.

[E]

Thank you, ladies, for having me. It's been a pleasure. We're still friends.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

It's crazy.

[B]

It's crazy.

[A]

It's crazy.

[E]

It's crazy.

[A]

Well, thank you so much. Stay in touch. We love you.

[B]

Love you.

[E]

Love you both.

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[A]

Well, how delightful was that?

[B]

Love it.

[A]

I know. He's just good people.

[B]

It's like seeing like your cousin. You're like, oh my God, how are you?

[A]

It really is true. It's that office family is forever and every time any of us see each other, it's just a joyous occasion.

[B]

Yeah. All right, well, should we get to a little around the Town lady?

[A]

Let's do it. Our first around the Town is from Alexandra L in Coralville, Iowa. Alexandra said every May the town holds a a city wide garage sale weekend followed by a swap weekend where everyone can bring their unwanted stuff to the city hall parking lot and take whatever they want for free. Items not claimed are donated to a nonprofit. After that comes Mayor's cleanup week where everyone puts the remaining unwanted items on the curb for trash pickup. People all over town then drive around and pick out treasures before the trash pickup happens. It's amazing what you can find in good shape. We always enjoy searching for treasures. Three weeks in a row we've ended up with a playset, kiddie pool, cat tree patio set, tons of kids clothes, and so much else from these events. I've never lived anywhere so dedicated to reusing unwanted items. How fantastic is that?

[B]

The whole town is spring cleaning at the same time.

[A]

I love it.

[B]

It's so smart.

[A]

It's so Smart. I love a garage sale. I love everything about this. And then the swap and then the things for free.

[B]

Come on.

[A]

I got very worked up about that one. Sorry. I was very excited.

[B]

It's very cool. All right. Mine is from Margaret C. In Massillon, Ohio, who said our thriving quote city of champions of 32,000 Massillonians is celebrating its 200th birthday this year. Massillon's history includes providing a safe haven of the Underground Railroad, being a historic shipping town on the Ohio and Erie Canal, and later a hub for steel and heavy industry. Some of our town's many noted citizens include silent film stars Lillian and Dorothy Gish, Browns and Bengals coach Paul Brown and actors David Canary, Yvette, Nicole Brown and Matt Lanter and singer Jeff Timmons. Our Massillon Tigers high school football team also has an elite history with 25 state championships. We are really so proud of our Northeast Ohio city and invite everyone to celebrate at our many patriotic events this year.

[A]

Maslin, Ohio is crushing it. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. 25 state wins. Wah.

[B]

Well done.

[A]

Our next one is from Sam C. In Gainesville, Florida. Sam says, at age 21, I just released my first album. I make music under the name Sam Kohn. So to celebrate, I threw a cone themed listening party. My friends and I snacked on pop cone conoli, ice cream cones, chips con queso, and bugles.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

Cause bugles are in the shape of a cone, lady. While we listened to the album titled Whist Away, drinks included vodka cone berries and pina con latas. We had a blast. Aw.

[B]

Sam, congratulations.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

At 21.

[A]

21. Sam, come. Way to go. Wow. Wow.

[B]

I don't know what I was doing at 21, but I hadn't just finished a whole album, I'll tell you that.

[A]

I know where I was when I turned 21.

[B]

Had you finished something like an album?

[A]

I was writing a term paper at my desk and I didn't go out and celebrate, but I did go to the gas station. My dad had given me a gas card just for gas, but I would buy groceries on it. And I went in proudly and I bought myself a coronita, which is a mini bottle of beer.

[B]

A mini Kareem. It's a beer on your 21st birthday because you were in the middle of a term paper.

[A]

Yes, but it wasn't an album, Sam Cohn. It was just a term paper. Well, let's move on to our office. Question of the week.

[B]

Yeah. This one is coming from Ella M. In Louisiana, who says, hi, office ladies. Do you have a favorite show with a similar vibe as the Office. What other shows should Office fans watch? Well, my family just did a rewatch of Modern Family, which has that same sort of like, cutting away to talking heads, to interview segments. I think the comedy is really good. I would recommend that. But you know what they don't do like we do is break the fourth wall. So there's none of that looking to camera. It's not documentary style, but it's sort of documentary style. But I think that's pretty close.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, this is a great question. I really liked it. So I was thinking, you know, my family and I are watching right now. It's the first time for the kids seeing it, but we're watching Arrested Development.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Yeah. And it's got that very single camera. You kind of feel like you're watching, like getting a peep inside some family's life.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's very quirky. It's very funny. And then I was always a fan of Reno911.

[B]

Oh, that's a great answer.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because that is very much in the same style. And I think if I were thinking of, like, new shows, like shows today, I would say Jury Duty, written by Lee and Jean, for sure. So good. I would say St. Denis Medical and Animal Control.

[A]

Yeah. And also, you know the show Superstore, created by Justin Spitzer.

[B]

Oh, yes.

[A]

Has that similar vibe.

[B]

It does. It's a good comedy. You know, for me, this idea of a fake documentary TV show goes back to the Larry Sanders Show.

[A]

I loved that show.

[B]

So good. And if you haven't seen it, it's just fantastic. It's behind the scenes of a late night talk show. In fact, the DP that shot the Office pilot shot the Larry Sanders show. He was just with us for that one episode. The pilot, Peter Smokler is his name. But, you know, you're gonna see that same kind of style. But again, they don't break the fourth wall and they don't do talking heads. It's more like caught on the fly documentary sort of thing.

[A]

You know what I was thinking about as far as breaking the fourth wall in a really, really cool, inventive way was fleabag.

[B]

Oh, yes.

[A]

Because the scene plays out and then she'll look straight to camera and have this aside, not to a documentary crew. It's like her inner thoughts to herself.

[B]

Yes. And then if I could give a shameless plug.

[A]

Oh, yeah, do it.

[B]

I have become a recurring character on the Chit show, which is a group of Groundlings, folks. And it's a Digital series. And it's so fun and funny and it's in an office and there's all the camera whips and there's breaking the fourth wall. It's really taking me back. Like, I love this group of people, and it's just been my absolute pleasure. I was so honored that they asked me. I was so flattered that they asked me. So I play Bitsy, who is the auditor from corporate who's come down. And so every once in a while I show up and no one likes. I'm real tough.

[A]

No one's happy to see an auditor. No one.

[B]

And Bitsy's really grouchy because she has a rash that goes from her knee to her neck.

[A]

I love the name Bitsy, by the way.

[B]

She's having to deal with this rash all the time, and it just puts her in a. She's in a sour mood a lot.

[A]

Yeah, go check that out. It's really fun to see Jenna in this role.

[B]

And, Angela, you've got a plug before we go.

[A]

Oh, gosh, I don't know. It's not so much a plug. It's just like, hey, if you guys are in Raleigh, North Carolina, July 25th through the 26th, Rainn Wilson and I are gonna be there at GalaxyCon. And, you know, I love meeting office fans. I love chatting with people. So come say hi.

[B]

Well, there you have it, folks. I think this was a fun episode.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We set the record straight on some things. We got to talk to Calvin. We learned about this. Incredible. I kind of wanna go next May

[A]

to Iowa yard sale. I know.

[B]

I mean, I'd like to see that lady, you know?

[A]

I want a road trip with you.

[B]

I know.

[A]

And a road trip to a garage sale with my best friend.

[B]

I know.

[A]

Get out. I'm in.

[B]

All right, everybody, have a great week. We'll see you next week.

[A]

See you then.

[B]

Thank you for listening to Office Ladies.

[A]

Office Ladies is a presentation of Odyssey and is produced by Jenna Fisher and Angela Kinsey.

[B]

Our senior producer is Matt Beagle. And our audience audio engineer is Sam Kiefer.

[A]

Odyssey's executive producer is Leah Rees Dennis.

[B]

Office Ladies was mixed and mastered by Bill Schultz.

[A]

Our theme song is Rubber Tree by Creed Bratton.

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