An Interview with Timothy Olyphant

Summary

Office Ladies: An Interview with Timothy Olyphant Release Date: January 22, 2025

Introduction of the Episode and Guest [02:25 - 10:30]

In this episode of Office Ladies, hosts Jenna Fischer and Angela Kinsey introduce their special guest, Timothy Olyphant. Known for his roles in acclaimed series like Deadwood, Justified, and The Mandalorian, Timothy joins the hosts to discuss his memorable stint on The Office. The hosts express their excitement about finally having Timothy on the podcast, highlighting his charm and the depth he brings to their conversation.

Timothy’s Experience on The Office [14:16 - 47:52]

Role as Danny Cordray

Timothy Olyphant discusses his character, Danny Cordray, a top salesman hired by Michael Scott to compete with existing sales staff at Dunder Mifflin. He reflects on Danny’s portrayal in episodes like "The Sting" and "Costume Contest," emphasizing the complexity and humor his character added to the show.

"[05:32] Jenna Fischer: Tell him. Nothing happened. We went on a couple of dates. He never called me again."

Behind-the-Scenes Anecdotes

Timothy shares amusing behind-the-scenes stories, including scenes where he struggled to keep a straight face, particularly when interacting with Steve Carell. He recalls how tightly-knit the cast was and how their camaraderie enhanced the show's dynamic.

"[31:20] Timothy Oliphant: I remember other than I do remember laugh. I'm sure I screwed up what would have been a really good scene because with Carell, where I was, I just couldn't stop laughing because it was so intense and funny."

Deleted Scenes and Character Impact

He talks about deleted scenes, such as Michael sending a camera crew to Danny's house, and the impact these scenes had on his character's presence in the series. Timothy reflects on how The Office continues to resonate with audiences, citing interactions with fans as a testament to the show's lasting legacy.

"[29:01] Timothy Oliphant: I'm in a deleted scene in another episode. You do win the hottest in the office."

Fan Interaction and Questions [27:53 - 45:57]

Surviving the Justified Universe

Listeners posed a question about which Office character would best survive in the gritty world of Justified. Jenna Fischer suggests Creed Bratton, highlighting his unpredictable and elusive nature.

"[44:13] Jenna Fischer: I'm going with Creed. I think he is in that world."

Confusion with Josh Duhamel

Timothy shares a humorous anecdote about being mistaken for fellow actor Josh Duhamel, culminating in a memorable Christmas card featuring both of them.

"[37:35] Timothy Oliphant: So he took a picture with my wife and three kids, and we sent it out as the holiday Christmas card."

Midnight Snacks and Personal Habits

Fans also asked about Timothy's favorite midnight snack, leading to a light-hearted discussion about his preference for peanut butter and bourbon, contrasting with his younger days of indulging in ice cream.

"[66:00] Jenna Fischer: What is your favorite midnight snack? [66:03] Timothy Oliphant: Oh, I'm gonna go with, like, peanut butter."

Personal Stories and Charitable Activities [25:47 - 44:13]

Charity Tennis Event

Timothy announces the first annual OliWas Tennis Charity event, aimed at raising funds for the Center for Reflective Communities, which focuses on mental health for teens and young adults. He describes the event as a fun-filled day of tennis, socializing, and supporting a worthy cause.

"[25:47] Timothy Oliphant: We're raising money for this really great place called the Center for Reflective Communities."

Meeting the Hosts and Building Friendships

He recounts his initial meeting with Jenna and Angela at a birthday party, leading to his participation in the podcast and subsequent friendships. Timothy appreciates the welcoming environment and professional demeanor of the Office cast and crew.

"[10:14] Angela Kinsey: It really was. He's so charming and he hung out with us for over an hour."

Lighthearted Banter and Future Plans [21:03 - 37:15]

Potential Spin-Off Shows

The conversation takes a playful turn as Timothy and the hosts joke about potential spin-off shows, such as "Office Ladies on the Road" or Timothy hosting a "Bread" podcast. They explore creative ideas, showcasing their chemistry and mutual respect.

"[22:30] Angela Kinsey: All right, what's our next question? Oh, wait."

Fashion and Memorabilia

Timothy shares his minimalist approach to keeping memorabilia from his shows, mentioning how he repurposes props like hats from The Office and Justified to fit his everyday style.

"[43:30] Angela Kinsey: Yeah."

Call Sheet Questions Interaction [54:36 - 67:35]

In a segment inspired by on-set call sheets, Jenna and Angela pose personal questions to Timothy, revealing more about his life outside of acting.

First Jobs and Hobbies

Timothy discusses his early jobs, like lifeguarding and swim coaching, and shares his rekindled interest in playing guitar, inspired by his daughter's musical talents.

"[55:32] Jenna Fischer: First question is, what was your first job? ... [55:41] Timothy Oliphant: I think we would be accepting two answers, either lifeguarding or swim coaching."

Favorite Places and Weekend Activities

He expresses a fondness for Carmel, Northern California, and describes his leisurely weekend routines, including swimming, spending time in the art studio with his family, and playing tennis.

"[56:52] Timothy Oliphant: I love the Carmel... I love that area."

Parenting and Chores

Timothy humorously reflects on modern parenting and chore routines, contrasting them with his own upbringing where chores involved more physical labor.

"[60:05] Timothy Oliphant: But I don't. I think there's some areas they kind of screwed up..."

Midnight Snacks

Concluding the call sheet questions, Timothy shares his preference for peanut butter and bourbon as midnight snacks, reminiscing about his past indulgences.

"[66:01] Jenna Fischer: What is your favorite midnight snack? [66:03] Timothy Oliphant: Oh, I'm gonna go with, like, peanut butter."

Closing Remarks and Final Anecdotes [67:09 - 70:22]

Follow-Up Stories

Angela shares her experience attending Timothy's charity tennis event, highlighting the fun and altruistic nature of the gathering. She also mentions Timothy’s visit to see Rainn Wilson’s play, showcasing his ongoing connections within the acting community.

"[68:22] Angela Kinsey: I did. You know, after the interview, we were talking a little bit..."

Future Collaborations

The hosts and Timothy discuss potential future collaborations, joking about expanding the Office Ladies network and exploring new show formats together.

"[36:49] Jenna Fischer: We're building the network show by show right now."

Notable Quotes

• Timothy Oliphant [05:32]: "Tell him. Nothing happened. We went on a couple of dates. He never called me again."

• Timothy Oliphant [31:20]: "I just couldn't stop laughing because it was so intense and funny."

• Jenna Fischer [37:35]: "So he took a picture with my wife and three kids, and we sent it out as the holiday Christmas card."

• Timothy Oliphant [66:03]: "I just love that first aid."

Conclusion

The episode offers an in-depth and engaging conversation between the Office Ladies hosts and Timothy Olyphant, blending professional insights with personal anecdotes. Listeners gain a deeper understanding of Timothy's contributions to The Office, his relationships with fellow cast members, and his activities beyond the show. The hosts and Timothy's camaraderie shine through, providing both entertainment and heartfelt moments for fans.

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Timothy Oliphant [05:32]: "Tell him. Nothing happened. We went on a couple of dates. He never called me again."

• Timothy Oliphant [31:20]: "I just couldn't stop laughing because it was so intense and funny."

• Jenna Fischer [37:35]: "So he took a picture with my wife and three kids, and we sent it out as the holiday Christmas card."

• Timothy Oliphant [66:03]: "I just love that first aid."

Transcript

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

We're the Office Lady 6.0. Hello there.

[Angela Kinsey]

Hi.

[Jenna Fischer]

We have a really, really fun episode today. I feel like we say that every week, but, oh, my gosh, if you don't leave with a smile on your face after you listen to this next.

[Angela Kinsey]

Day, I don't know what's wrong with you.

[Jenna Fischer]

I don't either.

[Angela Kinsey]

Also, we just love our job. So it is a fun thing. It's fun to get to do this.

[Jenna Fischer]

Really fun.

[Angela Kinsey]

Mm.

[Jenna Fischer]

I do. I love my job. I feel so fortunate that I love my job too, Ang.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

My parents loved their jobs. My mom was a teacher. My dad was a plastics engineer. They loved what they did for a living, and they always told me, we just hope that you get to have a career that you also love.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

And I do.

[Angela Kinsey]

What a gift, right?

[Jenna Fischer]

They supported me in my pursuit as an actress because they knew, well, that's the thing she loves.

[Angela Kinsey]

That's what makes her heart happy.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. My sister's a teacher. It makes her heart happy.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

It's a beautiful thing when that can happen.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

All right, well, listen, you all know that there are still so many people who are on the Office that we have not talked to that we have wanted to have on the podcast. And today we get to cross one of those names off our list.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yep. Today on Office Ladies 6.0, Timothy Oliphant is in the studio with us. You might know Timothy from his many movies and television roles, including the hugely successful shows Deadwood and Justified. Of course, you know, I loved him in the Mandalorian. And you know what? I did not bring it up on purpose because I didn't want to be a total nerd in front of him. I know I was already a geek, but I loved him in Mandalorian. And, you know, on the Office, he played Danny Cordray, the top salesman in the Scranton Wilkes Barre area. He was the salesman that Michael Scott eventually hires to work at Dunder Mifflin.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. The character of Danny Cordray was in two episodes that aired in the original broadcast, the Sting and costume contest. And, Angela, you bring up in our interview that he was also in a deleted scene for Michael's last Dundees.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yep.

[Jenna Fischer]

Now, I love the setup to his character in the Sting. Jim and Dwight are on a sales call to their client meeting at Frame select, and they see rival salesperson Danny Cordray sitting in the lobby I thought we should hear it.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Dwight. Crap. Danny Cordray is the worst. Well, by worst, you mean the best. The best salesman ever. He works for Osprey Paper over in Throop. Steals more clients from Dunder Mifflin than anyone. So the situation is the worst. Also, he slept with Pam. No, he didn't.

[Jenna Fischer]

Tell him. Nothing happened. We went on a couple of dates. He never called me again.

[Timothy Oliphant]

What? He never called you? I thought you said it just fizzled.

[Jenna Fischer]

That's fizzling. I mean, someone has to start the fizzle. Yeah, I thought you started it. No, I liked him for a couple of days four years ago. You know I have a kid with you, right? I just love this. There's so much information and history packed into these little couple of scenes.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know this was a really fun Jim and Pam Runner. We talk more about it. But it was so fun how it kept popping up. Well, I just love that. And Jenna, in rewatching this episode, it was so funny to me how all the Dunder Mifflin employees react to meeting Danny. So we just heard Jim and Dwight, but I also thought you should hear when Michael first sees him. And then the whole bullpen. Sam, help me put these clips together. Let's hear it.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Oh, no.

[Unknown]

That's a male model. Oh, my God. JanSport backpacks. 10 or 15 years ago, you were a model for JanSport backpacks, were you not?

[Timothy Oliphant]

Yes. Yeah. What's going on here? I knew it.

[Unknown]

I remember the one you were like, hey, to Mr. Danny Cordray. He is going to be joining us as our new traveling salesman. Say hello to Danny.

[Angela Kinsey]

Me?

[Unknown]

Okay, you know what? No.

[Angela Kinsey]

Just. That was a bleep. That was probably standards and practices because Kelly says, you know the F word.

[Jenna Fischer]

She does. And listen, we've shared this before, but the character name Danny Cordray was inspired by our very own Randy Cordray. And I just love that his name made it on the show.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know. Well, we always love hearing from you all. And several of you wrote in some great observations and comments about the character Danny Cordray. And we wanted to share.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. Starting with Ashley S. From Kaysville, Utah, who wrote in to say, I find it funny that Michael has a talking head referencing the killer in Scream 2. One of the murderers is Timothy Oliphant. That murderer is now in the office. Ashley, this cracked me up. You know, I'm a horror movie fan. You know, I know Scream 2. I held myself back from asking Timothy about Scream 2 in our interview because I didn't want to geek out too much. Let's hear this clip of Michael talking about Scream 2.

[Unknown]

I tried. I tried. I tried to talk to Toby and be his friend, but that is like trying to be friends with an evil snail. I feel like I'm dying inside. I feel like neve Campbell in Scream 2. She thinks she can go off to college and be happy, and then the murderer comes back, starts killing off all of her friends. Learned a lot of lessons from that movie. This is just one of them.

[Jenna Fischer]

Mm.

[Angela Kinsey]

There's more. There's more lessons in Scream 2.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, Scream 2 was early in Timothy's career. I mean, he is playing a college student. He is so good in it. He is such a great villain. Like, he always often is playing kind of like the nicer guys, the hero guy, but always with a little darkness. It's interesting we talked to him about it. Good catch, Ashley. I loved it.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, we also got this fun catch from Carly F. In Prospect Heights, Illinois. She said her and her husband were watching Justified and they realized that Dave Koechner had a few episodes. She said they loved that Timothy and Dave Koechner had a few episodes together, even though they didn't have any together on the Office, but they were both traveling salesmen. They also found it ironic that their joint episodes in Justified both take place in Florida, which is where Todd Packer ends up at the end of the Office.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, my gosh.

[Angela Kinsey]

This is like a Monk crossover, but it's a Justified. The Office crossover.

[Jenna Fischer]

I just started watching Justified.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's really good.

[Jenna Fischer]

It's so good. I have not gotten to Dave Koechner yet.

[Angela Kinsey]

I haven't either. I just started watching it, too.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, everyone, thank you so much for writing in. We used a lot of your questions in our interview with Timothy as well.

[Angela Kinsey]

And, you know, we're so excited to reunite with him. And this really all came about, Jenna, because you ran into him last year.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. We were at a mutual friend's birthday party and I asked him if he would come on the podcast. He was so lovely. He said, of course. We did this interview right before our holiday break, and it was just such a great way to end the year.

[Angela Kinsey]

It really was. He's so charming and he hung out with us for over an hour. We talked to him about his time on the Office and so many other things.

[Jenna Fischer]

So let's take a short break and when we come back, our interview with Timothy Olyphant.

[Timothy Oliphant]

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[Timothy Oliphant]

My goodness.

[Jenna Fischer]

Timothy Oliphant.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Hey. How's it going?

[Angela Kinsey]

Good. Oh, my gosh. How cool to see you sitting across from us. And you got a scarf on.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Well, it's the season.

[Angela Kinsey]

It is the season.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Timothy Oliphant]

How you doing?

[Jenna Fischer]

We're good.

[Timothy Oliphant]

How are the ladies?

[Jenna Fischer]

The ladies are good.

[Timothy Oliphant]

How long have the ladies been in this building? It didn't start here.

[Angela Kinsey]

No, no, no, no.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Like that. I'm gonna try to get more of those moments right there.

[Angela Kinsey]

Answers. We started at Earwolf, which was this great little space, and then Sirius bought Earwolf, and then we ended up renting this little space, which was cute, but, like, we had, like, a shower curtain that, like, separated us from other. From Sam and Cassie in the booth. It was sweet. It was cute.

[Jenna Fischer]

But now we're with the folks at.

[Angela Kinsey]

Odyssey, and we got real fancy building now.

[Timothy Oliphant]

And this is their floor. This is their building they're in.

[Jenna Fischer]

This is their nook.

[Angela Kinsey]

This is their nook.

[Timothy Oliphant]

It's their nook. And they get. And this space is your space.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Yeah. Way to go.

[Jenna Fischer]

Right?

[Timothy Oliphant]

I get you, too. Yeah, it's pretty good. Pretty good.

[Jenna Fischer]

You're doing all right.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Yeah, it's very.

[Angela Kinsey]

I think we have these doohickeys, too.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Oh, no, the horse. The whole thing is.

[Jenna Fischer]

It says Office Ladies on the microphone.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Pretty swanky.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Who would have thunk?

[Angela Kinsey]

I know, right? Just two gals chatting about a show they were on.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Just chatting about here in Hollywood. There's a walk of. There's the stars.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, the Walk of Fame.

[Angela Kinsey]

We don't have one. Wait, do you have a star?

[Timothy Oliphant]

No, I don't have a star.

[Angela Kinsey]

I don't have a star.

[Timothy Oliphant]

You know, every now and then you have these moments. You're like. Yeah, you're in showbiz.

[Angela Kinsey]

That's right. Little Razzle dazzle.

[Jenna Fischer]

I do feel a little show busy when I come here, because I'm coming into the heart of Hollywood. You know, when I first moved to la, I lived in West Hollywood, and I went by all this stuff all the time. I moved out. I'm not in West Hollywood anymore.

[Timothy Oliphant]

You left?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. All right, I'm jumping in.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay, jump in.

[Jenna Fischer]

Ready?

[Timothy Oliphant]

All right.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay, here we go.

[Jenna Fischer]

So listen. We usually start with the same question. We usually ask people. How did you.

[Timothy Oliphant]

They offered it to me.

[Jenna Fischer]

Your job in the office, you already know, but I was gonna say, listen.

[Timothy Oliphant]

I'm a, you know, first time. What was it? First time, caller last. Anyway, I'm like, yeah, I've listened. I got it.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yay.

[Timothy Oliphant]

I got no story for you other than they offer it to me. And I said, yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

Wait, can we just go on record that Timothy listens to office ladies?

[Timothy Oliphant]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Thank you.

[Timothy Oliphant]

For sure. Let's go.

[Jenna Fischer]

Wow.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

They offered me.

[Timothy Oliphant]

You guys are huge. They gave you the office because people are listening. You know that, right?

[Angela Kinsey]

I love it.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, I was actually gonna start with another question, which was, how'd you get your start in showbiz? Like, when in your life did you realize that you wanted to be an actor?

[Timothy Oliphant]

I articulated it sometime in my early 20s.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay. You said it out loud.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

That's a big deal, though, because you used to. My wife.

[Timothy Oliphant]

I remember. I. I know it. I may not have articulated it. I don't. Well, let me say this. I do remember articulating it to my wife. We got married at 22. I just had turned 23. And she. She. I do know that her response was, you've never mentioned this before, so that I want to. So first started kind of talking about it, like, 22 around there. Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

What inspired that? Had you been in a. Like a college production or what?

[Timothy Oliphant]

Nothing, Nothing. Now, when I was younger, I do remember thinking, oh, I'd love to do that. I remember thinking, comedy, Stand up comedy. I remember thinking that. And my mom said, you don't want to do that. Those people are all on drugs and they're divorced and they're on drugs.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, no.

[Timothy Oliphant]

And then at a certain point, I was like, mom, you're divorced. You know what I mean? You're halfway there. Might as well be in showboats, right? So, yeah. Never done it before. I had never done it.

[Jenna Fischer]

Wow. And so where do you go from there?

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

You grew up in Modesto, by the way.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Grew up in Modesto.

[Jenna Fischer]

We got a fan question about that. He asked people to write in and someone actually said. Megan G. From Albany said, my husband and I lived in Modesto, California. What does Timothy remember about growing up there? Folks are really proud of him out there.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Oh, that's very kind. Well, I mean, I. I'm. I don't. I mean, I still. My mom lives in Modesto. I still go to Modesto. I was in Modesto just in October, so.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, My favorite bread maker is in Modesto. Bonnie O'Hara. She has a home bakery. Fresh breads and cookies and stuff.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Wait, that might be my. Wait a minute. Hold on.

[Jenna Fischer]

What?

[Angela Kinsey]

Wait, wait.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Well, that can't be right. Is her name Bonnie? I'm forgetting the name, but the woman used to live across the street from my mother had made in her garage. She had a home bakery? Yeah, she made, and she was doing really well. Is that Bonnie?

[Angela Kinsey]

Bonnie was your neighbor.

[Jenna Fischer]

Bonnie O'Hara.

[Angela Kinsey]

And do we need a moment to Google she wrote?

[Timothy Oliphant]

No, I'm looking in my contacts. No, I don't think it's her.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay, okay. She wrote a cookbook.

[Timothy Oliphant]

She's your favorite.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. Bread making for Beginners. And I bought her cookbook. I started making bread thanks to her. But she has got a whole business in her, like, in her little home kitchen. And she sells bread. Subscriptions.

[Timothy Oliphant]

No, For a second there. For a second there, I don't think. Bonnie, if I do know you, I'm really sorry, because it's been a minute.

[Angela Kinsey]

But listen, if it's not Bonnie, the takeaway is Modesto is the Mecca for bread.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Mecca for bread.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. Good bread thing.

[Timothy Oliphant]

I have some good bread.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Timothy Oliphant]

I just finished a job in Finland, and the ad made the best bread.

[Jenna Fischer]

Homemade.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Homemade bread. They. They're big on their bread. They're very healthy. Good breads in Finland. I guess Europe just has great bread in general. People say, like, oh, if you don't want gluten, don't worry about it so much there in Europe. Anyway, I don't understand it. And as a rap gif, he gave me the recipe.

[Jenna Fischer]

No kidding.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Gave me a little notebook and a handwritten recipe. Tried to convert it from metric, and we haven't made it yet. But that's the plan this holiday. We're going to make the bread. Auntie. Auntie's bread. I love that first aid.

[Jenna Fischer]

D. I'm a bread enthusiast.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Okay.

[Angela Kinsey]

Jenna used to bring in, like, her yeast. Like, in the bowl, right? Is that what it's called?

[Timothy Oliphant]

Yeah. You gave it a name?

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, I would bring in my dad.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Angela, ask her. Yeast gets a name, Right?

[Jenna Fischer]

My starter. My starter's name was Goldie, did you not?

[Timothy Oliphant]

What?

[Angela Kinsey]

No.

[Timothy Oliphant]

How long have you two known each other? Am I here to bring you together? Bring you closer?

[Angela Kinsey]

I didn't know your starter had a name.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes, it's named Goldie because you have to feed it every day. And I said it's like taking care of a goldfish, so I named it Goldie.

[Angela Kinsey]

How did you know that?

[Timothy Oliphant]

You know, you're this close to having a second podcast.

[Angela Kinsey]

You're gonna be my replacement.

[Jenna Fischer]

All About Bread.

[Angela Kinsey]

With Timothy and Jenna. You laugh, but it could happen.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Oh, my God, for sure it could happen.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay, back to your career.

[Timothy Oliphant]

This is a show you've built a monster show here, all based on one half hour comedy.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, Bread is bigger.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's bigger than the Office.

[Timothy Oliphant]

I mean, it's huge. People love the Office. People really love Bread. I mean, it's a big deal.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's a big deal.

[Timothy Oliphant]

I'm just saying.

[Jenna Fischer]

I would be.

[Timothy Oliphant]

What are you in here twice a week? How many days a week are you in here?

[Jenna Fischer]

One day.

[Angela Kinsey]

Are you wanting to rip. Once a week.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Exactly. For the Bread podcast?

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Come on.

[Angela Kinsey]

Timothy's gonna be in here on Tuesdays, guys.

[Jenna Fischer]

We'll bring you on. We have a network now.

[Angela Kinsey]

We do. We have a network.

[Jenna Fischer]

You can have a Bread podcast on our network if you want it.

[Timothy Oliphant]

You have a network?

[Jenna Fischer]

We do.

[Angela Kinsey]

The Office Ladies Network.

[Timothy Oliphant]

What the.

[Angela Kinsey]

What the hell?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Timothy Oliphant]

God damn it. I've misspent my whole show business.

[Angela Kinsey]

Listen, bread with Timothy. It could happen.

[Timothy Oliphant]

It could.

[Angela Kinsey]

All right, what's our next question? Oh, wait.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Theme song. By Bread.

[Angela Kinsey]

By Bread.

[Timothy Oliphant]

You know the band?

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes.

[Timothy Oliphant]

There we go.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay, wait.

[Jenna Fischer]

It writes itself.

[Angela Kinsey]

It does.

[Jenna Fischer]

It really does.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Right there.

[Angela Kinsey]

We were gonna ask you next.

[Timothy Oliphant]

I haven't said anything I remember about Modesto, by the way.

[Angela Kinsey]

Wait. Yeah, What? Wait, what is. What is your favorite place to eat? Modesto. Like, what's your. Like. I know Archer City, Texas. I go to Mearns for a cheeseburger.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Oh, wow. You know, I mean, the places I've been going to lately are not places I went to growing up. Modesto. I mean, growing up. When I think of, like, where'd you go to eat when you were growing up? I mean, we're like. We went to Arby's and we went to, you know, like, Taco Bell tacos, You know, that kind of thing. It was so kind of a fast food joint. There was an incredible. I think it's still there. Mexican joint on the way out to Oakdale. Oh, I can remember it. God, I'm Terrible. But that would be like. That was great to go out there. And I'm pretty sure that's Mexican food.

[Angela Kinsey]

Place on the way to Oakdale.

[Timothy Oliphant]

I don't sound like I. How I've really drifted far from my Modesto's golden sun. I really have. Because we didn't really go out to. It's not a go out to dinner town.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know.

[Timothy Oliphant]

You know?

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Like, my memories of food in terms of. It's like going to get Winchell's on Sunday morning, like getting donuts or something.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

That's good though.

[Timothy Oliphant]

I don't remember like foodie places. There's a little bit of that now because almost the whole country's got into food, right? Foodie places.

[Angela Kinsey]

Fancy foodies.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Yeah. So, yeah. No, my childhood memories are just, you know, it was all about just roaming around. We, you know, canals and orchards and all that. That's the end of that story. Cake parties in the. In the orchard, you know, I mean, in the canal. Yeah. That was the teenage years times. Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. We had pasture parties when I moved back to the States.

[Jenna Fischer]

But I read that you were a swimmer.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Swam. I grew up next to. We grew up next door to a place which is still there, called. It was at the time called the Modesto Swim and Racquet Club. It was literally. We had an old farmhouse. We had a field and barn, horse, chickens and stuff that. And we could just walk through that over to the racquet club. And so my brothers and I all. We just were there all the time. Just run around. Yeah, it was a walk to school neighborhood and.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, so that sounds really good to me right now.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Yeah. So I swam and we all swam and played tennis. My brother and I, by the way, we're hosting a charity tomorrow. Tennis charity. My brother and I, we've never done it before. First Annual Oli was what we're calling it. The Oli. We're raising money for this really great place called the center for Reflective Communities. It deals with teen and young adult mental health. And so if people want to go on there, they can hit the little plus sign and donate. And where it says subject, you can put in our thing. Play for good. The Oli. Play for good and donate money and God bless you because they do wonderful work for. Lord knows the young people need some help these days.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, we'll share that. We'll put it in our Instagram stories with a swipe up and I'll show up with my racket.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Oh, let's go.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Bring it. We're playing Dingles.

[Angela Kinsey]

I love Dingles.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Okay. We're playing Dingles, and we've got, like. I think there's, like, 16 or 17 players that are all coming and donating, like, 500 bucks to play. And then, like, 16, 17 pros.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, gosh. So maybe.

[Timothy Oliphant]

But still come out and hit some ball. You can hit with some pros.

[Angela Kinsey]

Wait.

[Timothy Oliphant]

It's gonna be super fun.

[Angela Kinsey]

Are you playing?

[Timothy Oliphant]

I'm playing.

[Angela Kinsey]

Dingles is so fun.

[Timothy Oliphant]

You can come out and play a little bit, hit with some of the pros, and you can always say, okay, it's too much. I don't want to play anymore and just hang out. And there's alcohol.

[Angela Kinsey]

Great. Dingles is you have to hit cross court. So, like, I have to hit cross court, and then the person next to me hits cross court, and then the first person that misses. You can only do cross court, and when you miss, you yell, dingles. And then the other ball that's active becomes a free ball for the whole court.

[Timothy Oliphant]

That's right.

[Angela Kinsey]

But what happens to me is the minute someone yells, dingles, I like, you freeze. I freeze. And then the ball goes whizzing past me. I'm like. Because, like, imagine someone next to you yelling, dingles. Really loud. Ding off. Wouldn't that make you.

[Jenna Fischer]

It would. Yeah.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Yeah, it did. Right now, I could see it on her face.

[Jenna Fischer]

I froze. I stopped talking as soon as you guys started saying dingles. I haven't said a word.

[Timothy Oliphant]

We're doing it tomorrow.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yay.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Okay. There we go.

[Angela Kinsey]

Now, let's see. Okay, back to the office. Had you seen the show before? Were you a fan of it? Did you know anyone on the list?

[Timothy Oliphant]

Yeah, I'd seen both versions. Did I know anyone? I knew Rainn.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, yeah.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Rainn Wilson. When I first started acting in New York, he was my understudy in a play.

[Angela Kinsey]

What was the point?

[Timothy Oliphant]

Pretty sure that's true. It was called the Monogamous at Playwrights Horizons. By the way, I'm gonna go see Rains play Waiting for Godot Saturday, closing night. I'm gonna go see Waiting for Godot on Saturday.

[Angela Kinsey]

I saw it. He's great in it.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Yeah, I can't wait.

[Angela Kinsey]

He's really good.

[Jenna Fischer]

I have a question from a fan.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Let's go.

[Jenna Fischer]

It's Amit R. From Edmonton, Alberta, who wants to know, on the Office, what was hardest to get used to? The improvising in scenes or learning to see the camera as a separate character? Take us back.

[Angela Kinsey]

You're very great. Like, right out of the gate. At clocking the camera.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

Cause some people that threw them off. But we watched you look at the camera.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Oh, I appreciate hearing that. I was about to answer that question with the question, which was, I don't remember. Did I look at the camera?

[Angela Kinsey]

What?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes.

[Timothy Oliphant]

It's all very vague. Foggy to me, my experience. I don't remember you.

[Angela Kinsey]

Do you? Probably.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Am I on one episode or multiple episodes?

[Jenna Fischer]

Two episodes.

[Timothy Oliphant]

I'm on two episodes.

[Angela Kinsey]

And then you have a cameo.

[Timothy Oliphant]

And I hope that doesn't sound pretentious. I just don't remember.

[Angela Kinsey]

No, no, it's fine. You're in two episodes and then you have a little cameo for Michael's Last Dundees, where Michael sends the camera crew. Cause Danny Cordray wins Hottest in the Office and it's in deleted scenes. And I'm pretty sure it'll end up in the Superfan episodes too, but. Yeah. So you're. You do win the hottest.

[Timothy Oliphant]

I'm in a deleted scene in another episode.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes. My first episode.

[Jenna Fischer]

You're in two episodes and then you got deleted from a third.

[Angela Kinsey]

But you'll probably be added back.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Oh, and what's that scene?

[Angela Kinsey]

You've won hottest in the.

[Timothy Oliphant]

But I didn't show up for that.

[Angela Kinsey]

You didn't. And so you come.

[Timothy Oliphant]

So how am I in it? Oh, they put me on the screen.

[Angela Kinsey]

Michael has a TV screen. And your character says. Yeah, I said I couldn't be there, but Michael sent out a camera crew to my house. Oh.

[Timothy Oliphant]

So I shot. And I shot that.

[Angela Kinsey]

You shot that? Yes. You talk. It's you.

[Jenna Fischer]

You did it.

[Timothy Oliphant]

I don't remember that. Oh, that's cool. Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, do you remember?

[Timothy Oliphant]

I do remember getting a Dundee, though. And they sent it to my house. It was very. It was pretty great.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, that's cool.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Yeah. I got the little trophy.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

So do you still have it that says Hottest in the Office?

[Timothy Oliphant]

I don't know.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, that would be great to have for your shelf.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes.

[Timothy Oliphant]

I have two. And this will go next to it. Greatest World's Best Podcast guest.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yay. Our coffee mug.

[Timothy Oliphant]

I have two World's Greatest Dads. I've. I've won it twice.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, that's so cute.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Yeah. Now, I've been a father for 25 years, but I've only won the. I've only got it twice.

[Jenna Fischer]

And you have three children.

[Timothy Oliphant]

I have three children.

[Jenna Fischer]

Only two awarded you, by the way.

[Timothy Oliphant]

That's a good question.

[Jenna Fischer]

The same kid.

[Timothy Oliphant]

I don't know. I just like that. I. For some reason, I have two of them. Yeah. Some. Somewhere along the line, they either forgot they gave me one or they're like, let's get it. Him again.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, he really likes that. Let's give him a no.

[Timothy Oliphant]

And I don't know if I am the world's greatest dad, because I don't even remember who gave it to me or why or when I got it. I just know I have two. And I've always liked having the two side by side. And I think for a second the Dundee might have been there. I'm a bit of a minimalist at the house. I don't tend to keep a lot of stuff.

[Angela Kinsey]

That's good, that's smart.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Timothy Oliphant]

I mean, I turned that frown around. So I don't remember the looking at the camera bits.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay.

[Timothy Oliphant]

But it sounds like it won't.

[Angela Kinsey]

You did it really well.

[Timothy Oliphant]

That's great. Okay, cool. I don't remember anything being difficult about the show. I remember other than I do remember laugh. I'm sure I screwed up what would have been a really good scene because with Carell, where I was, I just couldn't stop laughing because it was so intense and funny. And there's a little bit of disappointment still there that I could not keep a straight face.

[Angela Kinsey]

Is it when you're trying to leave the building?

[Timothy Oliphant]

Yes, yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's in the bloopers.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Yeah. So at least it's got a life somewhere. Because he's incredible.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Timothy Oliphant]

And he's fully committed. And I'm quite certain I haven't seen it in long, you know, but that I'm the one busting up more than he is. I'm sure I'm busting up and then. And that's making him then laugh. But he was really impressive.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, yeah. He doesn't break. He's like a statue. It's really hard to make him laugh.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Yeah. No, he was very committed. I have fond memories of my experience, you know, just in general. I just remember enjoying the whole thing. And you guys were all wonderful pros, Great vibe. You'd already been on the air for a while.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. It was season seven. But it was always so fun when someone new came in because that new energy that it would bring to the set. And I loved it so much, I rewatched it. The fact that Danny Cordray thinks Pam is a dork and that's why.

[Jenna Fischer]

Do you remember our storyline where it's.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Coming back to me now?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. So we had gone on a couple when Jim was away.

[Angela Kinsey]

Two dates.

[Jenna Fischer]

Two dates. And it was supposed to be a third, but then you didn't call me back. But you try to tell Jim that it was that I didn't call you back. And so I say, no, no, no. And then we will not leave you alone. And we're like. He has this great scene where he's like, man, why didn't you call her back? And you're like, for real? You want to know why I didn't call your wife back for a date, like, five years ago? And you admit that it's because you thought I was a little dorky. And it's so funny.

[Timothy Oliphant]

It was so fun. That's so wonderful.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's such a great scene. And when you finally admit it, that Pam's a little dorky, I watched it with my son, who's 16, and he turned to me and he goes, this is so cringy.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, I'm dressed as olive oil. I'm in a full Halloween costume.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes.

[Jenna Fischer]

And so I am like, I'm being pretty dorky.

[Angela Kinsey]

And she goes. When you call her dorky, she goes, oh, okay. Excuse me. Like, it's so funny.

[Timothy Oliphant]

I do remember that, too.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. That was so fun.

[Angela Kinsey]

I love that storyline so much.

[Jenna Fischer]

I want to ask you about the Sting. That's the first episode where you show up and you're this salesman, and Michael's going to try to figure out why are you so good? You're this rival salesperson.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

And so they set up that fake office. And then Meredith is an Oscar. Come in, Meredith.

[Angela Kinsey]

Wait, her name is something. Van Helsing. What is. Do you remember Dwight meets her.

[Timothy Oliphant]

I do remember. I remember now. A lot of this is coming back to me now, but I do remember the Sting. I remember that scene being in the office and her acting like she's super rich and in charge or something.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes.

[Timothy Oliphant]

And people are coming in and out.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes. Because she starts to really hit on you. And so they're like, ah, she's gonna ruin it. Send in Oscar. And then Oscar comes in and she's literally like, he's here to clean. He speaks no English. And then they send in Ryan the temp. And she's like, that's Esteban.

[Jenna Fischer]

He does.

[Angela Kinsey]

He does floors. Like, so she keeps, like, thwarting their plans.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. It's really fun.

[Timothy Oliphant]

It is a show. How long ago is that? It's a long time.

[Jenna Fischer]

It's been. My God, how long ago now? I mean, we probably shot that in 2010.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

I mean, 15 years ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Timothy Oliphant]

People still will be like, you know.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Do you get recognized for Danny Cordray? Yeah, I'LL get, you know, the occasional like, hey, were you in the office?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, that happens.

[Timothy Oliphant]

That happens.

[Angela Kinsey]

I mean, that's so wild because you have such amazing, huge, larger than life other characters.

[Timothy Oliphant]

It's a huge. And also you get it from like teenagers and stuff. It's amazing. That show that just keeps on giving.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes.

[Timothy Oliphant]

How cool to be on a. You guys were part of something that culturally relevant and huge.

[Angela Kinsey]

We had no idea at the time.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Kind of amazing.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, it was pretty wild.

[Timothy Oliphant]

I mean, I don't have those kind of problems. You guys must get that craziness. People must go, hey, can you go to the airport? What's it like when you go to the airport?

[Jenna Fischer]

I can go a lot of places. I really fly under the radar and I always have. I don't know if it's like some sort of like special gift or something. I don't know. But I like, I was once rear ended by the paparazzi who were chasing Christina Ricci. And I had to get out of my car and like exchange information with them and they never took my photo. Like, that's, that's like how invisible I am sort of to that amazing world.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, I would challenge you to fly southwest to Austin and walk through that airport.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Okay.

[Angela Kinsey]

Because you're going to get recognized a lot.

[Jenna Fischer]

I think I can do it. I'll take that challenge.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Let's go. We're taking the show. Office Ladies on the Road. We're going to film one.

[Angela Kinsey]

I don't know, guys.

[Timothy Oliphant]

We're going to film one.

[Angela Kinsey]

I get recognized a ton at airports.

[Jenna Fischer]

Southwest Terminal in Austin. That's just recognized. I want.

[Timothy Oliphant]

It's in the budget. Let's go.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's in the budget. We can go talk to people about brands.

[Timothy Oliphant]

I invited myself on the trip.

[Angela Kinsey]

By the way.

[Jenna Fischer]

You're in our spin off show, Office Ladies on the Road with.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Yeah, Office Ladies on the Road.

[Angela Kinsey]

Come on. That's a fun show.

[Jenna Fischer]

You're our man on the street.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Bread of the week.

[Angela Kinsey]

Bread of the week, Southwest Austin.

[Jenna Fischer]

We're building the network show by show right now.

[Timothy Oliphant]

I mean, you guys have a network. This is what you guys have.

[Jenna Fischer]

Will you please be at our next think tank meeting?

[Angela Kinsey]

Because we have 44 episodes. We have to.

[Timothy Oliphant]

I like that. There have been already think tank meetings.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes, yes.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, we've got one coming up in January.

[Timothy Oliphant]

They don't happen often. Well, it's the holiday. So you're shutting it down.

[Angela Kinsey]

We're taking out of January. You get to think tank.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, we're going to think tank it.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

In the episode Costume Contest, Michael says, you remind him of someone. And Kelly says, is it Josh Duhamel? Fan question from Keela V in Texas. Do you often get confused for Josh Duhamel? Follow up. I heard he was on your Christmas card once.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Yeah. So I've. I've told this story before, so forgive me for. So, yes, obviously I do. But, yeah, he was in my. He took a picture with. We were at an event together. We'd never met, but as soon as we saw each other, started laughing. And while we were talking, one of the Dodgers. We were at a Dodgers event, and they. One of the guys asked him if he was going to be in any more Hitman movies, which is a movie I did. And he asked Josh in front of me, and it was really great. I watched him get mistaken for me in front of me. It was just wonderful. And then it occurred to me, I said, you know what? I got my whole family here. Would you. And he knew right away. He was like, I'm in. You got it.

[Angela Kinsey]

So great.

[Timothy Oliphant]

So he took a picture with my wife and three kids, and we sent it out as the holiday Christmas card.

[Angela Kinsey]

That's so awesome.

[Timothy Oliphant]

My mom had it on the fridge and hadn't noticed it. Didn't clock it. My brother called me, said, dude, mom had no idea. I had to point it out to her, and she said, I thought he looked taller.

[Jenna Fischer]

It's such a good story.

[Timothy Oliphant]

It's a great story. So, yeah, me and Josh forever linked. Lovely guy. There's a great sport about it. Kind of funny. It's funny. Do you guys have one of those?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, I've got a couple.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. I would get Amy Adams and Isla Fisher.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Okay. And have you spoken to them about it?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Because you assume they also.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Or maybe she says, sometimes the paparazzi don't pay attention to me because they think I'm you.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

She's like.

[Jenna Fischer]

They're like, go ahead, Jenna.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Sometimes when I'm being ignored, I realize, oh, you guys think I'm Jenna.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, exactly. No. One time at a party, Amy and I were both at the party, and the guy I was with at the time, he came up to me and he's like, oh, my God, I'm so embarrassed. I just went up and I put my arm around Amy Adams. I thought it was you. I thought it was you. And I was like, nope, I'm over here. And then she came up and she was like, I met your date. It was so great to meet him. So, yeah. So we've talked about It a little bit, but I don't. It's like, I kind of see it.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Did you also say, nps, don't put your arm around me in public?

[Jenna Fischer]

I was like, I mean, we're not together anymore.

[Timothy Oliphant]

See, I don't know. Yeah, yeah. Because he overstepped with somebody else. Do you get one?

[Angela Kinsey]

I've gotten before a shorter version of Laura Dern, like, the short version. She's really tall, so I don't know.

[Jenna Fischer]

That's.

[Angela Kinsey]

I don't know.

[Timothy Oliphant]

I don't know.

[Angela Kinsey]

What do you. That's all I got.

[Timothy Oliphant]

But you don't have the doppelganger showbiz doppelganger out there that you know you're being mistaken for, because that's what we. We have the. I. I. Yeah, I. You know, I'll get giggles behind a counter, and then I realize they don't know who I am.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, right.

[Timothy Oliphant]

They think I'm him.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

No, no. Although I really want to tell Laura Dern that someday that, like, hey, I'm your short version.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

You should play her short sister in something.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, I want to ask you a little bit about Justified.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes.

[Jenna Fischer]

I have only just started watching the series, but I am loving it.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Thank you.

[Angela Kinsey]

Me, too. My husband loved it, and then he had me start watching it. I love it.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Oh, thank you.

[Jenna Fischer]

Do you still have the hat?

[Timothy Oliphant]

Never kept it.

[Jenna Fischer]

What? You didn't keep your hat.

[Timothy Oliphant]

You didn't keep your hat, so keep that in mind with the Dundee. Right? I didn't keep the hat. Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

That is shocking to me.

[Angela Kinsey]

What about from Deadwood? Do you have your star?

[Timothy Oliphant]

No, I didn't keep any.

[Angela Kinsey]

Do you take anything from sets?

[Timothy Oliphant]

So, yes, in that. Like a pair of jeans or anything that's practical, and you're like, I like.

[Jenna Fischer]

The fit of these. I'm going to wear these.

[Angela Kinsey]

All right.

[Jenna Fischer]

These are nothing sentimental.

[Timothy Oliphant]

No, I never take anything sentimental. I take things that are like, oh, I could use some socks.

[Jenna Fischer]

Right? Yeah.

[Timothy Oliphant]

No, my kids will make fun of me. Like, if I buy something, they'll be like, oh, dad bought a shirt. Because a lot of times I will just be wearing things that have, like, my character name. Or it either says, like. You know, when they put inside either says hero or it says, like, yeah, you know, Raylan. Yeah, I'll have, like, a pair of jeans, and inside it just says Raylan or hero. Yeah, I'll have that.

[Angela Kinsey]

You know what?

[Timothy Oliphant]

T shirts, anything. That's those. I take all. I always tell the cost, you know, the customer. I always say, look, there's going to be some things missing at the. So I just. I hope it's in the budget, which.

[Angela Kinsey]

Is my clothes, but I don't.

[Timothy Oliphant]

I've never taken shop. Yeah. And I will say, because I always think to myself, what am I going to do with that hat? I mean, it's just going to sit there somewhere and take up space. And I. I don't like having you.

[Angela Kinsey]

You don't. You're minimal. At home, we've learned this.

[Timothy Oliphant]

I'm a bit of a minimalist. I'm a bit of the. When I. I first heard about that Maria Condo.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, right.

[Timothy Oliphant]

I was like, oh, yeah, I got it.

[Angela Kinsey]

Like, I do it already.

[Timothy Oliphant]

I'm there. But she added the little thank you for your service. You ever hear that? That little quote that she does?

[Jenna Fischer]

As you throw it away. As you throw it away.

[Timothy Oliphant]

As you. Yeah, Yeah. I love that. I've added that. I've added that.

[Jenna Fischer]

Thank you for your time here.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Big fan of that. But I did keep a hat from the show. We did a thing. It's a spoiler, but we did a thing where there was a guy, a villain with a hat towards the very end of this, the original show's ending. And I wore this hat. I took the dead guy's hat because he shot my hat. Had a whole. We had a whole story idea. Anyway, I took that hat and then had it refitted so that I could just wear, like a free hat.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Timothy Oliphant]

It was a little bit along. That practical thing. I was like, I'd love to get a free hat out of this.

[Angela Kinsey]

Right.

[Timothy Oliphant]

But I don't want to want that hat. The hat. So I got another hat. You wouldn't recognize it as the hat from the show, but I was. Because you just have it re. Blocked. I kind of wish I did that with the Raylan hat.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Just took it and then just had it. I forget. You can just have a hat reblocked and just make it into. It's not even recognizable. And it'd be a fun fact to say, yeah, this is Raelyn hat. Yeah, there it is.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. But I just like how it looks.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Yeah. Just change it around.

[Angela Kinsey]

I have a little story for us. Well, two things. One, I have a question from Julio in Clinton, New Jersey. Julio says, which office character would best survive the Justified universe?

[Jenna Fischer]

I'm going with Creed.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

I think he is in that world. He's sort of a criminal, but also sort of not. He's questionable. I feel like a marshal would be needed to track him in some way.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Yep. That Would have been great. Cause everyone on your show is so good at comedy. But not acknowledging the comedy without pointing it out, which is kind of what we were doing a little bit.

[Jenna Fischer]

Very much.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Nothing more fun than taking someone who's known for a sitcom and putting them in a cool, gritty, comedic performance on our show. That was always my favorite thing.

[Angela Kinsey]

I always love that when I watch a show to see someone from a world that's totally different. I think your character. Was that on the Office, too, for a lot of people. That was really cool.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. Because your time on the Office was after Deadwood, but before Justified.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Okay, I'll take your word for it.

[Jenna Fischer]

It was.

[Angela Kinsey]

So if you had watched Deadwood, it's.

[Timothy Oliphant]

All a bit of a blur.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. As a Deadwood fan, which I was. You know, we had. That was a thing that we did on the show a lot. Like, we had a lot of folks who had been on the Sting. Wait, is that the name of the show? No. The Wire.

[Timothy Oliphant]

I was gonna say them.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's like, wow, we're professional.

[Jenna Fischer]

Hold on.

[Angela Kinsey]

Timothy, can I just tell you, this is our last show of 2024. Did you feel it?

[Timothy Oliphant]

You had Redford Newman. Who else did you have from this thing?

[Jenna Fischer]

Jason Gleason.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Gleason.

[Jenna Fischer]

He was in it.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Amazing.

[Jenna Fischer]

They were great on the show.

[Timothy Oliphant]

I forgot Jackie Gleason was in the Sting.

[Jenna Fischer]

Have you watched the Sting in a while? Because it holds up and it's fantastic. I have one of my favorite movies.

[Timothy Oliphant]

I would look, you know, I keep a list of things, and I want to say I watched it like a year or two ago.

[Jenna Fischer]

Same.

[Angela Kinsey]

Seen it in a while.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Really solid.

[Angela Kinsey]

All right.

[Timothy Oliphant]

So good. Just wonderful performances. I mean, just a. Wow. That ending is just like. You love everybody, right? When they're all closing up shop, giving the little sympathetic on the nose.

[Angela Kinsey]

Now I need to rewatch it.

[Timothy Oliphant]

So wonderful.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, sure thing. Hey, you sold that car yet?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, sold it to Carvana.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, I thought you were selling to that guy.

[Timothy Oliphant]

The guy who wanted to pay me in foreign currency, no interest, over 36 months.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Timothy Oliphant]

No car. Carvana gave me an offer in minutes, picked it up and paid me on the spot. It was so convenient.

[Jenna Fischer]

Just like that. Yeah. No hassle.

[Timothy Oliphant]

None.

[Angela Kinsey]

That is super convenient.

[Jenna Fischer]

Sell your car to Carvana and swap.

[Angela Kinsey]

Hassle for convenience. Pickup fees may apply.

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[Angela Kinsey]

I found a little something on YouTube that I want to talk to you about.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Okay, well, I'm leaning in. Everybody's leaning in April. You should have teased that, by the way. Put that in the front of the show. I found a little thing on YouTube I want to ask you about, but we'll get that. We'll get to that later and then people really stick around.

[Angela Kinsey]

Stay tuned.

[Jenna Fischer]

Why do you think we've lost them? What are you saying?

[Timothy Oliphant]

All right, what do you got on.

[Angela Kinsey]

YouTube by the way?

[Timothy Oliphant]

Let's circle back to that thing you were saying on YouTube. Yes, see what I did there?

[Angela Kinsey]

Thank you.

[Jenna Fischer]

Thank you.

[Angela Kinsey]

Will you just do this for us? We have some ads for you later too.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Oh, I'd love to sit in on the ads.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, you're so funny when you read ads on Conan. I love it.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Oh, thank you.

[Angela Kinsey]

That made me laugh so hard.

[Timothy Oliphant]

I read ads on Conan.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's really funny. Okay, YouTube, here we go.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Okay.

[Angela Kinsey]

It was April 2015.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Okay.

[Angela Kinsey]

You were a guest.

[Timothy Oliphant]

I'm right there.

[Angela Kinsey]

You were a guest on Conan O'Brien. Justified. Last episode was that night there was going to be a party. You bring onto Conan a Mason jar of whiskey from Kentucky. And you and Conan and Andy all drank whiskey during the interview. Yeah, I was the second guest that night. And I came out and you poured me.

[Timothy Oliphant]

You didn't know it was real whiskey. You didn't realize it was gonna be.

[Angela Kinsey]

I was like, surely this isn't real whiskey? Yeah, we were drinking, and I took a big slug of it.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Yeah, I remember.

[Angela Kinsey]

And I was like, oh, wow, that's real whiskey. So that is the first time I've ever drank on television. And I rewatched the interview. You totally are great. First of all, you guys were sipping, and then I come out, I take my slug of whiskey, and I am so, like, wackadoodle in the interview.

[Timothy Oliphant]

I don't know. No, you're being tough on yourself.

[Angela Kinsey]

No, because it was really good whiskey, and I totally thought it was a bit, and I didn't think it was actual whiskey.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Yeah, we committed. We committed.

[Jenna Fischer]

You guys are very committed. Timothy, we shared with our listeners that you and I recently connected at our mutual friend's birthday party.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

And I got to meet your wife of 30 years.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Yep. Don't mess me up. 30 something, I think. Go ahead.

[Jenna Fischer]

She is amazing.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Thank you.

[Jenna Fischer]

We got a wife.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Thank you. But that's nice of you to say. Okay, I agree.

[Jenna Fischer]

We got a fan question from Kim P. In Chicago. Who said the sexiest thing about you is your long relationship with your wife. Would you be willing to tell us your meet? Cute.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Oh, we're separating.

[Jenna Fischer]

No, you are not. You are not. I have to assume that when you met her, you knew immediately that you needed to marry this person. She is one of the most phenomenal human beings I have ever met. One of the strongest, best first impressions a human has ever made on me. Your wife is like. She is. Alexis is like a gem of a human being.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Oh, that's lovely to hear. I will pass that on to her.

[Jenna Fischer]

I mean, because how did you.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Because she's never seen anything I've ever been in, so.

[Jenna Fischer]

But that's kind of true, isn't it?

[Timothy Oliphant]

Which part?

[Jenna Fischer]

That she doesn't, like, really Engage in the whole, like, no Hollywood thing.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Yeah, we met in college. And where'd you go to college? We went to USC.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Junior year of college. Yeah. We were 20, and we were in a class, Oceanography.

[Angela Kinsey]

That's a cool class.

[Timothy Oliphant]

It was like a science, you know, requirement. And I was swimming at sc. All the athletes, basically, we had, you know, the athletics got the counselor. They all said, you're taking oceanography. Like, that's your science, and it's super fun class, and it's really popular. There's this guy Pipkin, professor there. It was a fun class. Anyway.

[Angela Kinsey]

Is it like the easy science class?

[Timothy Oliphant]

I think that was the idea. Like, all the athletes were like, you should take oceanography because that'll satisfy your science. And it's kind of a big, easy class, and it's popular. They probably also just liked all the athletes taking the one class because we're all getting the same tutor. They were all being tutored to get through it.

[Angela Kinsey]

We had a class like that. They called Shake and Bake, because it was earthquakes and natural disasters, and all the athletes were in it.

[Timothy Oliphant]

There you go.

[Angela Kinsey]

So that's your Shake and Bake.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Ocean. And you got a field trip to Catalina Island. To Catalina. So you'd go out on the boat and go out there and go swimming, snorkeling. Catalina. Because Essie's got, like, a oceanography institute out there.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, that's cool.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

So she was in the class.

[Timothy Oliphant]

She was in the class, yeah. She used to come in late. One of the last people to come in. So I'd always see her coming in. And to your point, I began referring to her as my girlfriend. We'd never met, but I was like, that's my girlfriend. I need to save her a spot because. Because she comes in late and she'll. She'll have to come up, sit next to me. So, yeah, that's. We had met taking oceanography class. We had friends in common. Yeah. We first met. I introduced myself to her after class.

[Angela Kinsey]

That's so cute.

[Jenna Fischer]

And the rest is history.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Yep.

[Jenna Fischer]

All right. You've been so generous with your time to be the last thing that we have.

[Timothy Oliphant]

It's been a pleasure. I appreciate the invitation.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, thank you.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

The last thing we do on the show is season five of Office Ladies. The last thing we do on the show are our call sheet questions. These are questions that we would ask members of our cast and crew. And then we put their little answers.

[Angela Kinsey]

On the back of the call sheet.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, we'd put their answers on the Back of our call sheets, we didn't.

[Angela Kinsey]

Do this like the production office did it, but it was such a fun thing on the set of the Office, and it's how people like you learned a little bit about the cast or crew.

[Timothy Oliphant]

That's a lovely show.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know. Isn't that wonderful?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Timothy Oliphant]

So you guys are dominating the world with your show and just making all this, and also with the lovely kind of wonderful atmosphere and feel. Good.

[Angela Kinsey]

The camaraderie.

[Timothy Oliphant]

The camaraderie.

[Angela Kinsey]

It was like a family, really.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. So you want to kick it off, lady?

[Jenna Fischer]

Sure.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

First question is, what was your first job? It could be your first paid acting job or maybe your first job in general.

[Timothy Oliphant]

As far as I can remember. I think we would be accepting two answers, either lifeguarding or swim coaching. I think I. Yeah, those are probably the two jobs I kind of did when I was growing up. Used to give swim lessons.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Timothy Oliphant]

You know, because I was a swimmer and then. Yeah. All right, so we're going to go with lifeguarding.

[Angela Kinsey]

Lifeguarding. Lifeguarding. All right. Do you play a musical instrument?

[Timothy Oliphant]

I play guitar. Not well, but I play it. I played it a couple times for a movie and never got into it for a couple different jobs, but learned it well enough to. For the job. And then just a few years ago, either pandemic or strike. I mean, just not long ago, my daughter, who's a very good singer, songwriter, she was like, dad, you should play guitar. Play guitar with me. So I started playing guitar with her, and that got me into it.

[Angela Kinsey]

That is so sweet.

[Timothy Oliphant]

So she's. I owe her some thanks.

[Angela Kinsey]

Next question. What's a place that you've been to that you absolutely loved?

[Timothy Oliphant]

Oh, well, I love the Carmel. The sort of Northern California Carmel's always been a very. They can put as many bad art galleries and cutesy. I still. I love it. I don't care how many they. That's how great that place is. They can shove. They've shoved so much bad art in that little community, and I'm still like, yeah, it's great. I love it. Can't ruin it. I just love that coast. And that is always. I've always had a soft spot for it. And we used to go there as kids, not so. Not far from Modesto. And my wife and I always go. We honeymoon there. I love that area.

[Jenna Fischer]

All right, I've got the next one. What do you like to do on.

[Timothy Oliphant]

The weekends these days?

[Jenna Fischer]

Sure.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Timothy Oliphant]

So we. I swim early Saturday morning. This is like the routine I Swim early Saturdays.

[Jenna Fischer]

You still swim?

[Timothy Oliphant]

Still swim.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay.

[Timothy Oliphant]

I've gotten way back into. I don't know why. It's like a thing my wife dragged me. I've always swam, but a few years ago, I was working in Tribeca with Alex Winter in New York, and my wife is like, oh, we found a pool. Usually do. And then there was a master's program there. And she was like, let's do masters. You know, where you kind of like, are with a group and there's a coach. And I was like, I don't want to do that. Come on, hon. And then I did it and then. And I love it. I'm like, yeah, so now. Yeah, swim over it. So swim. Usually Saturday mornings lately, we. We have a. My wife and I share an art studio with our son. If we're really a mellow weekend, we'll go. We'll go to. We like a Saturday in the art studio. It's kind of great. I mean, if we're just hanging in town, dog walks. Our kids are. We're empty nesters. So it's just chill time. Like, we do whatever. We're done with the, like, driving everyone to a tennis tournament or whatever. Yeah. Which is kind of nice.

[Angela Kinsey]

That sounds really chill.

[Timothy Oliphant]

May play tennis over the weekend. I play with my kid. I play with my brother. Yes. Weekends in LA are pretty chills. Sunday, more like just Sunday. Tend to be stick around the house.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

Like chore day kind of chores. Like, do you have a handy chore, Angela?

[Timothy Oliphant]

I'm in show business. I grew up doing so many chores. Did you guys have like. I was a chore. You were a chore person growing up. You had chores? We had major chores. Major chores. My buddies were like, dude, how. I was like, I just gotta do my chores and then I'm free. And they were like, oh, yeah, yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

And then.

[Timothy Oliphant]

And now my kids. I don't think they. I don't think they know. They'd be like, chore. What is that? Look it up in the dictionary.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know, I know. We just. We decided to, like, have a chore day and we told our kids they have to load the dishwasher. What? That's a yes.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Oh, my God. You know, my chores were growing up. Load the dishwasher.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, listen, I'm in Los Angeles.

[Timothy Oliphant]

That's a routine. That's not a chore.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes, they. Thank you.

[Angela Kinsey]

They're 14, but let me tell you, you have a.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Wait, that's still. How do you mean that? But they're 14.

[Angela Kinsey]

But like, why, like, we're in Los Angeles. It's not like. Listen, in Archer City, Texas, chores were like, go, you. I had friends that had to milk the cows.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Yeah. You know, we had to go collect eggs. We had to clean out ponds. We had to, like, mow lawns, and we had to, like, prune and weed and, like, we had, like, chores. It was like, there's wheelbarrow involved.

[Angela Kinsey]

Anyway.

[Timothy Oliphant]

We had a wheelbarrow. Something that took gasoline.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes.

[Timothy Oliphant]

That was a chore.

[Angela Kinsey]

My dad, where he bailed hay.

[Timothy Oliphant]

He's like, chopping. We had, like, you know, there was something involved. You might get, like. There might be blisters.

[Angela Kinsey]

No, I'm not saying there was a shed.

[Timothy Oliphant]

We had to go out to the shed.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay, fine.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Keeping them grounded.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, anyway, I want you to know, the dishwasher, I want to tell you, it was a show. When I opened the dishwasher, I was like, what the hell happened in here? Everything was just thrown in there.

[Timothy Oliphant]

I do remember the moments with my kids and when they were pretty old, and I'm like, could you just sweep this up? And, you know, and then, you know, and I started watching. I'm not even gonna name which one, because pretty much all of them had this moment where I was watching them sweep, and I'm like, who taught you to sweep? What is that? Where'd you learn that? And I realized I've failed.

[Angela Kinsey]

I haven't taught them.

[Timothy Oliphant]

It's my fault. I mean, I can't blame them for not knowing how to sweep. Clearly, that's something you have to kind of at some point, someone else to show you. Oh, my God, it was so embarrassing. I was like, that's not how you sweep. Like, how is that? I thought that was just something you knew.

[Angela Kinsey]

No, no, it's not natural.

[Jenna Fischer]

I have a new thing that I just implemented with my kids. I want to get your take on it.

[Timothy Oliphant]

All right, let's hear it.

[Jenna Fischer]

So I heard this on a podcast, which, when I told my kids that they were like, oh, mom heard a podcast.

[Angela Kinsey]

Mom and her podcast.

[Jenna Fischer]

Mom and her ideas. So the thought behind it is, rather than make them a chore list that they have to do, you teach them how to notice what needs to be done and do it. Because the mental labor of making the list and saying what has to be done, like, that's half the chore. So what you're wanting to do is, like, raise people who can see with their own eyes what needs to be done. So I have this thing where I.

[Timothy Oliphant]

This is a podcast called Pipe Dreams. Pipe Dreams for Parents pipe dream for parents.

[Angela Kinsey]

Next on the Office Ladies Network.

[Timothy Oliphant]

There's pipe dreams for parents who don't live practically.

[Jenna Fischer]

So here's what I did.

[Timothy Oliphant]

This is kind of thing you. It feels like this is, like, right next to Whole Foods, like, where you go down the aisle in Whole Foods, and there's, like, just stuff in there that's supposed to do things where you're like, how is that even possible?

[Angela Kinsey]

That doesn't work.

[Timothy Oliphant]

And we all just lost our minds as soon as we walked in this place.

[Jenna Fischer]

I set a timer for 15 minutes.

[Timothy Oliphant]

And they have to notice.

[Jenna Fischer]

For 15 minutes, they have to walk around and notice, see what needs to be done, and do it.

[Angela Kinsey]

How's that working?

[Timothy Oliphant]

Wait. And then they're done after 15 minutes.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

This is making my dishwasher thing look.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Hardcore, I gotta say. I mean, I hope they turn out. I do. You know that. And by the way, I feel the same about my. My kids are already in their 20s, so I have a pretty good idea. But that seems crazy compared to how now. I mean, come. I'm not saying what my dad. Because, you know, I got. I think there's some areas they. They kind of screwed up, but they just said, like, this is what needs to go be done. That's hilarious. 15 minutes, walk around, notice. I mean, the gag there is they take 12, 13 minutes to notice something, and then they're like, they only got two minutes to do it. They got it. Still looking around. Still looking around.

[Angela Kinsey]

They got 15.

[Timothy Oliphant]

I've noticed a couple things, but I want to keep kind of feeling there might be something better. That's amazing.

[Angela Kinsey]

All right.

[Timothy Oliphant]

I thought we got. I think we hit our stride somewhere where we realized if we just wrote the routines, that was the easiest way.

[Angela Kinsey]

Like, write it on the board. Your sort of task is what you're.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Doing Monday, is what you're doing Tuesday, it's what you're doing Wednesday. Just. These are the tasks a little bit. Because otherwise you were constantly saying, you know, hey, I need you to. Could you just go do this? Could you go. And they're like, oh, my God, you're just gonna throw that on me whenever. So it was more like, read the board. Here's the board. These are the things that are going to be done. This is, you know, this is. This is yours. This is your sister's. This is whatever. Yeah. And it was. It's. It is la. It's not Modesto life. So it's not like they're out mowing. I mean. No, no. We were. We were like, Work, you know, we had like.

[Jenna Fischer]

I pulled weeds, I picked up dog poop.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Oh, yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

You know.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

I mean, I cleaned the toilets. I was. Bathrooms. That was my job in my house growing up.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Oh, that's. Yeah, I think just three boys and we were just out in the yard working. We had daily chores and then weekends were like.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. All hands on.

[Timothy Oliphant]

And my memory is a few hours before I was free to go hang out.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Timothy Oliphant]

It was always my buddies making plans and then they're like, you'll join us like around noon. We'll. O'clock when you're done. Remember going over the canal to open up to water? You'd have to let the water into the field and water the fields.

[Angela Kinsey]

And those are real chores.

[Timothy Oliphant]

We had real chores. Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

Did you take 15 minutes to look around?

[Timothy Oliphant]

Just take 15 minutes to look around.

[Jenna Fischer]

Just see what needed to be done.

[Angela Kinsey]

I think in theory this is a really good thing, though.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Amazing.

[Jenna Fischer]

All right, our final question, and we're going to let you go.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

What is your favorite midnight snack?

[Timothy Oliphant]

Oh, I'm gonna go with. I guess I would go with, like, peanut butter. Well, yeah, lately, probably peanut butter. Like, peanut butter.

[Jenna Fischer]

If there's like just straight up with a spoon.

[Timothy Oliphant]

God, we have gotten to this place where we don't have a lot of, like, back in the day, I'd be like, ice cream. But now I'm like, I don't really deal with that anymore. Like, that's. Isn't that sad? You get to a certain age, you have memories of midnight snacks. Yeah, I remember I used to eat a pint of ice cream. Now I was like, what? That's gross. Disgusting. What's wrong with you?

[Angela Kinsey]

You gotta get up and swim.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Exactly. So now, like, we don't. Like, if I think, like, right now at the house, the only thing that we have that I will definitely reach for is I bought a bunch of. I was in Finland working. I brought so much good licorice home. So I like, reach for the licorice, but when that's gone, I'm. That's it. I'm screwed. I'm just like, oh, maybe some peanut butter and honey. I mean, really, my midnight snack is probably just like, bourbon. That's my midnight snack. It's just the. It's just the liquor cabinet.

[Jenna Fischer]

The bourbon on the rocks.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Yeah, exactly. There you go.

[Jenna Fischer]

Thank you so much.

[Timothy Oliphant]

This was a pleasure, ladies. If I can call you that.

[Angela Kinsey]

You can't call us ladies.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Ladies, it's been a pleasure.

[Jenna Fischer]

Thank you so much.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Thanks for having me.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, we're going to get your dates that you can travel. So when we go on the road.

[Timothy Oliphant]

Exactly.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. All right.

[Angela Kinsey]

Awesome. Thank you.

[Timothy Oliphant]

All right.

[Angela Kinsey]

Thank you, Timothy.

[Timothy Oliphant]

It was my pleasure.

[Angela Kinsey]

I mean, how fun.

[Jenna Fischer]

He is so funny.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know.

[Jenna Fischer]

And Ang, you actually ended up going to his tennis charity event.

[Angela Kinsey]

I did. You know, after the interview, we were talking a little bit before he left and he was like, I'm serious, if you want to play, you should come. He got my phone number and on my drive home, he called me and he was like, hey, I'm about to text you all the info. I was like, okay. It was the next day and lady, I wore my Songs of Scranton T shirt to represent the office. Ladies team. I was paired up with Timothy's sister in law, Robin. And I played with this great group of gals and I met a lot of his family. It was very much a family affair. Plus there were some fantastic tennis players, like jaw dropping, amazing tennis. And some familiar faces like Joel McHale.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

Mm. I just want you guys all to know that Joel has a really good cross court forehand. Although. And Joel, I have given him crap about this. He did get schooled on the court one or two times.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay. But that's okay.

[Angela Kinsey]

There was. These tennis players were really good. I was not in the like super good. I was in like the medium court.

[Jenna Fischer]

Is that what they call it? Super good? Medium good, not so good. Is that how they chemist?

[Angela Kinsey]

That is not how they did. They had, if you wanna know, they had like 4.5s and 4s and 3.5s and I was on the 3.5 court and threes, but I was on. Yeah, So I was 3.5 is good lady.

[Jenna Fischer]

That was my GPA in college.

[Angela Kinsey]

So that's very good.

[Jenna Fischer]

That served me well there.

[Angela Kinsey]

But it was a really fun day. And thank you, Timothy, for including me and Robin for introducing me to your tennis gals. And you know, it was just a lot of great people coming together for a good cause. I will share in our stories, but like Timothy said in his interview, all the proceeds went to center for Reflective Communities. And I'll put a swipe up so you can learn more about it.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, Angela, another follow up that we should give is that Timothy did go and see Rains production the closing night of Waiting for Godot and loved it.

[Angela Kinsey]

Loved it.

[Jenna Fischer]

Took his mom texted us to update us, which I thought was so nice. Hey, ladies. By the way, we loved it.

[Angela Kinsey]

We loved the play.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, a big thank you to Timothy for coming in the studio to talk with us. We hope you enjoyed this episode and thank you to everyone who sent in questions. We just love hearing from you.

[Angela Kinsey]

Have a great week.

[Jenna Fischer]

Thank you for listening to Office Ladies.

[Angela Kinsey]

Office Ladies is a presentation of Odyssey and is produced by Jenna Fisher and Angela Kinsey.

[Jenna Fischer]

Our executive producer is Cassie Jerkins, our audio engineer is Sam Kieffer, and our associate producer is Ainslie Bubba.

[Angela Kinsey]

Odyssey's executive producers are Jenna Weiss Berman and Leah Reese Dennis.

[Jenna Fischer]

Office Ladies is mixed and mastered by Chris Basil.

[Angela Kinsey]

Our theme song is Rubber Tree by Creed Bratton.