An Interview with Wendi McLendon-Covey

Summary

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Office Ladies – "An Interview with Wendi McLendon-Covey"

Podcast: Office Ladies
Hosts: Jenna Fischer & Angela Kinsey
Guest: Wendi McLendon-Covey
Date: August 27, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this lively and heartfelt episode, Jenna Fischer and Angela Kinsey are joined by the hilarious and multi-talented Wendi McLendon-Covey. Known to The Office fans as Concierge Marie from season five’s “Business Trip,” Wendi shares her fascinating journey in Hollywood, from heartbreaks to career triumphs. The episode is full of behind-the-scenes stories from The Office, insights into her time on Reno 911 and The Goldbergs, and a peek at her latest role on NBC’s St. Denis Medical. Wendi, Jenna, and Angela dig deep into the actor’s path, women supporting women in comedy, and why loving animals will always be in style.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Reconnecting and Animal Rescue Bonds

[10:04–13:00]

• The trio warmly recalls their last in-person meeting at "The Fur Ball" — a cat rescue fundraiser Jenna hosted.
• Wendi, a devoted animal lover, swaps wild stories about local hawks and her Instagram-famous animals.
• Wendi: “I'm always feeding something.” (11:05)
• The hosts highlight the kinship of animal lovers and how these bonds run deep in their offscreen friendship.

2. Wendi’s Unlikely Road to The Office

[12:44–15:40]

• A candid story: Wendi was fired from a film on set after being told she wasn’t "pretty enough," only to land The Office the very next day.
• Wendi: “Sometimes you're in the wrong place, and something horrible has to happen to get you in the right place. ... Thank God I got fired, right? Because nobody saw that movie. But everybody saw this.” (13:54)
• She discusses the challenges of show business and shares her "everything happens for a reason" philosophy.
• Jenna and Angela relate, teasing a future “tell-all” podcast for their later years.

3. Shooting "Business Trip" and On-Set Memories

[15:40–18:00]

• Scenes involving Concierge Marie and Michael Scott were shot in a hotel in LA, dressed to look like Winnipeg.
• Wendi reveals: “Kate Flannery (Meredith) drove by and said hello. That was cute.” (15:05)
• She notes that she never appeared in scenes with Jenna or Angela.
• Wendi received devastating career news mid-shoot but found solace in the fun, supportive set environment—especially in scenes with Steve Carell.

4. Hospitality Gossip & Groundlings Days

[16:42–21:00]

• Wendi shares stories from her days working at Anaheim hotels, including “secret” rooms and staff shenanigans.
• She drove 35 miles to attend comedy training at The Groundlings, persevering despite fears and a long drive.
• Wendi: “Sometimes we would get so nervous that we would just drive right past and go home.” (19:12)
• Angela and Wendi swap stories about the improv world, formative years in LA theater, and their first breaks.

5. Career Milestones and Reno 911 Origins

[21:00–23:48]

• Wendi’s first big break came with Reno 911 at age 32, after being discovered subbing in a Groundlings show.
• The show remains a cult hit, with clips like her famous “dancing DUI” scene living on social media.
• Jenna (on Reno 911 clips): “How many times have I seen your bit... the dancing DUI?” (23:10)

6. Working with Steve Carell and The Art of Not Breaking

[25:08–26:43]

• Wendi reveals Steve’s legendary ability to stay in character: “He never breaks. And Oscar never breaks... Ed [Helms] will break.” (26:07)
• She recalls how determined she was not to break: “I remember thinking, don’t break, because you are lucky to be here.” (25:56)
• Angela and Jenna share strategies for avoiding Steve Carell-induced laughter: “We had to stop making eye contact with Steve.” (26:43)

7. Deep Dive Into Concierge Marie: Motivations & Backstory

[27:24–29:18]

• Fans write in to ask why Concierge Marie hooked up with Michael Scott.
• Wendi: “I think it was boredom. ... There are worse things I could be doing. ... But then I, you know, listen. She threw his shoes out into the hall. I think it didn’t go well once they got behind that door. Empty calories.” (29:00)
• She discusses her subtle attempt at a French Canadian accent inspired by real Montreal locals.
• Angela and Wendi go on a tangent about roller skating and “special skills” on acting resumes.

8. St. Denis Medical & The Joys of Ensemble Work

[36:06–41:23]

• Wendi talks glowingly about Justin Spitzer (creator of Superstore and Office alum) and her new workplace sitcom.
• Cartwheels on set: Wendi improv’d her cheerleader moment in the pilot, “I used to be a cheerleader, so that’s what I’ll do.” (37:13)
• She praises the emotional depth and humor of St. Denis Medical, “There are real stakes, but then it’s so incredibly funny.” (39:24)

9. The Realities of Hollywood: On-Screen Kisses & Set Culture

[41:23–44:22]

• Wendi dishes on kissing Steve Carell (“He is a good kisser... it was quick and dirty and not uncomfortable at all.” 41:37) and the unspoken rules of stage kissing.
• Jenna describes an awkward kiss with a famous actor and the surprising “science” of movie kissing.
• The trio relates these stories to Bridesmaids outtakes and Paul Feig’s signature directorial style.

10. Career, Resilience & Advice for Artists

[47:35–65:12]

• Wendi shares her gratitude for working on The Goldbergs, especially with George Segal: “Having George Siegel, the legend, be my dad... I will be eternally grateful.” (48:49)
• She stresses how TV cast and crew become family, sharing in real-life highs and lows.
• Her closing advice for aspiring performers: “You’re gonna get fired. ... None of this stuff is true unless you think it’s true... If the answer is yes, buck up and just keep going. ... The good times are really, really good.” (64:18)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On resilience:
  “Sometimes you're in the wrong place, and something horrible has to happen to get you in the right place.”
  — Wendi McLendon-Covey (13:54)

• On the downside of Hollywood:
  “So, yeah, you're gonna get fired. Check it off the list. Someone's gonna tell you you're ugly. Check it off the list... None of this stuff is true unless you think it’s true.”
  — Wendi McLendon-Covey (64:28)

• Why Concierge Marie hooked up with Michael:
  “I think it was boredom. ... Empty calories.”
  — Wendi McLendon-Covey (29:00)

• On navigating laughter on set:
  "I’m a giggler, but damn it, I’m not gonna do it. I’m not gonna ruin a take.”
  — Wendi McLendon-Covey (26:28)

• On Paul Feig’s style:
  “Paul dresses so well that you feel like, well, I have to listen to you. I know you’re the best dressed person here.”
  — Wendi McLendon-Covey (47:08)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [10:04] – Start of the Wendi interview.
• [12:44] – Wendi explains how being fired led to getting The Office.
• [18:15] – Memories of working at a hotel and attending The Groundlings.
• [21:00] – Breaking into TV with Reno 911.
• [25:08] – Handling Steve Carell's improv.
• [27:24] – Fan questions: Concierge Marie’s decisions.
• [36:06] – St. Denis Medical: behind-the-scenes and ensemble culture.
• [41:23] – Kissing scenes, etiquette, and BTS awkward moments.
• [47:35] – Favorite memories from The Goldbergs and working on sitcoms.
• [64:18] – Advice for aspiring artists.

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Call Sheet Questions (“Lightning Round”)

[50:17–65:12]

• First entertainment job: Extra in a Carmen Electra music video, $100 cash (50:36)
• Languages: Some German and French, can read but not fluent (51:36)
• Favorite place: New Orleans, so much so she bought a tiny condo there (52:09)
• Weekend routine: “I love to putter around at home. I love my animals. I got seven rescue cats.” (55:40)
• Dream: Sew a red carpet-ready outfit herself; the hosts challenge her to do it for St. Denis Medical’s next events (59:28)
• Midnight snack: None—she stops eating after 7pm, but recommends a berry-flavored magnesium drink for sleep (60:12)

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Engagement, Tone & Final Thoughts

This episode blends laughter, honesty, and nostalgia in classic Office Ladies style. Wendi’s candor about career setbacks and triumphs will resonate with aspiring and working artists alike. The warmth and quick rapport among the trio make the conversation a joy to follow, while stories about the realities of comedy and TV work provide unique insight for fans. The love for animals, improv roots, and the value of work “families” is a touching throughline.

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Recommendation:
If you love The Office, behind-the-scenes stories, or are curious about the winding path to comedy success, this episode is a must-listen—equal parts hilarious, heartfelt, and deeply human. Don't miss Wendi's takes on Steve Carell, comedy improv, and why rejection can be a blessing in disguise.

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Today on Office Lady 6.0 Michael Scott's favorite concierge joins us.

[Angela Kinsey]

That's right. It's Wendy McLendon Covey, and she's in the studio with us.

[Jenna Fischer]

I loved this interview.

[Angela Kinsey]

Wendy is so hilarious.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, back when we were breaking down business trip in season five, Wendy sent us some audio clips about her time on the show as concierge Marie. They were just fantastic. But today we got to have her in studio with us, and she is exactly as fun and funny as you imagine.

[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

And Wendy is just fantastic in business trip, but she's just crazy talented in every regard. Yeah, you might recognize her from her role as Beverly. Over ten seasons on the Goldbergs. She was nominated for two critics Choice awards. Or maybe you know her as deputy Clementine Johnson from Reno911, the animated show Big City Greens. And she worked with our fellow office alums Paul Feig and Ellie Kemper on Bridesmaids.

[Angela Kinsey]

That's right. She was cousin Rita. So funny.

[Jenna Fischer]

And now you can catch her on another hit television show with another member of our office family, writer producer Justin Spitzer. She plays hospital Administrator Joyce in St. Denis Medical on NBC. And it's so good, you guys, it's so good.

[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Jenna Fischer]

I am angling to be on St. Denis Medical.

[Angela Kinsey]

Same. In fact, you guys, Jen and I are both pitching ourselves for different roles. Before we go to break, I thought we should have a little refresher about concierge Marie's scenes.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

So.

[Angela Kinsey]

So you guys remember Michael is really down because Holly was transferred. So David Wallace sends him and Oscar and Andy to Winnipeg to close a sale. And clearly this is Michael's first time ever meeting a concierge, and he is, in his own words, blown away. Let's hear it.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Where's the concierge?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Wallace said there would be one of those.

[Jenna Fischer]

Bingo.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Follow Moi, bro.

[Jenna Fischer]

Sir.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Wow. What about a nice sushi place? Maybe a place with a view. Oh, Matsuki. That's a good one. You may walk there if you wish, or you may take the number 17 bus until 9 o'. Clock. Other than that, you can take the taxi and the number is right there. Wow.

[Jenna Fischer]

Wow.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

I'm blown away by this. I. This is great. Thank you. One final question. Where might you find yourself on a Winnipeg night like tonight? Oh, the Huntsman is good. The Huntsman. Down here, the financial district.

[Jenna Fischer]

Michael is so easily impressed. It's so cute.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know he's enamored by all of it, like the travel, the hotel, the concierge.

[Jenna Fischer]

And the way Wendy is playing the concierge, it's just like. It's so rote. Like, how many times has she recommended these restaurants and got out the map.

[Angela Kinsey]

And dropped the arrow?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, as the night goes on, they have drinks and Michael continues to be very impressed.

[Jenna Fischer]

How about this one?

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

It's Christmas Eve and everything is closed and you need to get some dry cleaning done. 12 o', clock, midnight. Where do you go? What do you do? What do you do? Come on, what do you do? Astro cleaners on St. James Place is the only place that is open on that day. Unbelievable. Unbelievable.

[Jenna Fischer]

Michael is. He is so turned on by her knowledge.

[Angela Kinsey]

Unbelievable. She knows where the dry cleaners are at any point of any day. She knows where you can go.

[Jenna Fischer]

I love this episode. I love the storyline so much and I loved our conversation with Wendy. She's a really special person and she shared a lot and I can't wait for everyone to hear it.

[Angela Kinsey]

Same lady. Well, let's take a break and when we come back, Wendy is in the studio.

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

Okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

When you think of sandwiches, I think you think of turkey. Ham. I'm not sure you think of chicken and I just wanted to throw it out there. That's it.

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[Jenna Fischer]

Wendy, you guys, what's up?

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Oh my head's gonna explode with happiness. Just pure cause I'm here.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, I've been so looking forward to this.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

I have been looking forward to it as. And now it's happening and I can't believe I'm looking at you.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Lady. Lady.

[Angela Kinsey]

So much emotion.

[Jenna Fischer]

When you got here we were reflecting on the last time we saw one another in person because you were on the office but we were not in your scenes.

[Angela Kinsey]

Right?

[Jenna Fischer]

And so you remembered the last time we saw each other. Will you share?

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

It was Called the Fur Ball. And it was like a kitty rescue fundraiser.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

And you were one of the hosts, I believe.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. I worked with Kitten Rescue, who puts on that fundraiser for years.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

And that's one of the many reasons why I love you guys is cause you care about the little creatures.

[Angela Kinsey]

We do.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

And so do you. Because if you follow you on Instagram, Wendy, you know, your love of critters.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

I'm always feeding something.

[Angela Kinsey]

And that giant hawk. What was that thing?

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

They are all around our neighborhood.

[Angela Kinsey]

What?

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

And the carnage that happens in our flower beds is not pretty.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know.

[Jenna Fischer]

We were doing an edit session recently, and out my window we were. Remember Cassie, Angela, we were on Zoom. And all of a sudden it was like a bird exploded in front of my window. And I think it's because a big hawk came down, bombed it.

[Angela Kinsey]

That's happened in my backyard.

[Jenna Fischer]

Just like confetti of feathers.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Oh, God. And there's nothing you can do?

[Angela Kinsey]

Nothing. That was just Mother Nature sorting some stuff out. But it's a little brutal to watch.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

I didn't know we were gonna start this way.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Hi, everybody.

[Angela Kinsey]

I was about to tell a story about when I watched a squirrel eat a hummingbird. And then I didn't realize squirrels eat hummingbirds. And then I decided not to tell it, and now I'm saying it out loud.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Well, listen, nature is disgusting, and I prefer it when nature stays outside.

[Angela Kinsey]

Keep it outside. Do your thing outside.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Do it outside.

[Jenna Fischer]

Nature.

[Angela Kinsey]

But furball isn't. What a great, great event.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

And we were all there.

[Angela Kinsey]

I still have a teapot I bid on at that auction.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Really?

[Angela Kinsey]

And it's a cat. And the head comes off. And then you put it on and the water comes out its mouth. So he's like, meow.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Oh, my goodness.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's so adorable.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

I hope you use it all the time.

[Angela Kinsey]

Only for my friends when they come over. So, Wendy, when you come over, get ready.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

I'll remember that you said gay.

[Jenna Fischer]

Ok, Wendy, we know that you sent in some audio clips when we broke down your episode Business trip. But we're just so excited to have you in studio. Will you tell us again the story of how you got your job on the Office?

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Yes. Yes. So it was kind of crazy. I had just been fired off a movie that I had auditioned. I had done all these things. They flew me out to Michigan. I was there one night, got in the passenger van to go to set, and the money guy decided I was not pretty enough to do the role. So I was put on a plane crying to go Right back to la.

[Angela Kinsey]

So wait, you are in the van, you get to set, and they say.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Yes, I'm sorry, that's it. Don't go to your dressing room.

[Angela Kinsey]

Holy crap, that's so brutal.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

It was pretty brutal. And yet a blessing because that movie went nowhere.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

And I would have had to be in Michigan for seven weeks waiting to film for only five days. Oh. Of full, intermittent days.

[Angela Kinsey]

No. Come on.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

So that's fine. That's how the universe works, right? You know, sometimes you're in the wrong place and something horrible has to happen to get you in the right place. So when I land in la, I look at my phone and my phone's blowing up because I had gotten an offer to do the Office the next day. So thank God I got fired, right? Because nobody saw that movie. But everybody saw this.

[Angela Kinsey]

Can you say the movie you don't have.

[Jenna Fischer]

You know what? We're going to do a special podcast called Office Ladies. Burn it to the ground when we're in our late 60s. And you can come back.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Yes. And then I'll. And then I'll name names.

[Angela Kinsey]

We have some stories to tell, but we're putting them in our pocket for a few years.

[Jenna Fischer]

That's.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

That's very smart.

[Angela Kinsey]

When we're really old and give zero Fs, we're gonna burn it out.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

I like that.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

I like that. I'll bring the tequila for that episode.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

So anyway, my whole thing was with Steve Carell, and we were in Winnipeg, so I didn't get to meet you guys, which was stinky.

[Angela Kinsey]

So we're filming at a hotel somewhere in la.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Yeah, in downtown la. Kate Flannery drove by and said hello. So that was cute.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, that's so nice.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

And then. Okay, so it was on a Friday, the weekend goes on. Monday, I come back and during lunch, I'm in my trailer eating. I get a call that I'm not gonna be on Reno anymore.

[Jenna Fischer]

Wait, what?

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

So I am sobbing in my trailer. Yes.

[Jenna Fischer]

Was on the set of the Office.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Yeah. So I was like. I mean, I was like, well, now I'm gonna get fired from this job. Cause I can't collect myself. It was terrible, but the experience was so fun. And Steve Carell is a doll. I love the way the episode turned out. I loved. Like, I'm in my full uniform but no shoes on, kicking him. Like, what did we do in there?

[Jenna Fischer]

Cause you've dressed already.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Yeah, I got dressed in a hurry to throw his shoes out the door. Was I just on a break and had to Go back down to my desk. I don't know.

[Jenna Fischer]

We want to know how. Where that hotel room came from. I guess you set that up.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Concierge Marie would have access.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Would have access.

[Jenna Fischer]

You didn't go to his room?

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

No, it was my like little lair or something.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

You know how like though at hotels they have that room where if you have a layover and you're like, hey, can I just go shower somewhere? And there's that room.

[Jenna Fischer]

There is, yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes.

[Jenna Fischer]

I don't know about the layover room. I've never heard this.

[Angela Kinsey]

I did this once. I had a layover and I got a room like just for a few hours so I could shower. Yes, you can do this.

[Jenna Fischer]

What hotel chain was it?

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, it was right off the airport.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Oh, she should have shown.

[Jenna Fischer]

Sure.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

But I used to work at a hotel as well. And everybody knows like, okay, let me look up. Oh, there's a room on the corner that nobody's in if you want to go have a hookup. And the employees would do this. Oh, disgusting. But yes, they would do that.

[Angela Kinsey]

That is some good hospitality gossip.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Very unsavory.

[Jenna Fischer]

What did you do in the hotel business?

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

I was a secretary back when they called them secretaries. And then I became like a salesperson for corporate sales. I tried to get people to come and stay in our little hotel. I'm sorry, can. I swear.

[Jenna Fischer]

You can.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Okay. So this was. I worked at a place near Disneyland. It was like the third worst Ramada in Anaheim. And it was just far. It was literally across train tracks from the rest of where everyone goes to stay. Yeah. Where tourist Anaheim turns into industrial Anaheim.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

So this was basically a trucker hotel, but we were trying to make it into a destination property, so we couldn't. It was terrible.

[Angela Kinsey]

How do you put a bow on that? That's a sell.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

We put a waterfall in the front. Hey, you know, to really offset the fact that we didn't have hallways, just like outside corridors, you know, next to the rock breaking factory or like the gravel factory. Yeah, it was horrible. But boy, did we try.

[Angela Kinsey]

I read though that when you were doing that, you would then drive 35 miles to LA to take classes at the ground links.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Yep, Yep. Wow. Yeah. And I'm still too stubborn to leave that area. So I'm down in Long Beach. I've never left.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh my gosh.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh my goodness.

[Angela Kinsey]

You drove all the way here from Long Beach.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

But that's cause I'm too stubborn to leave. My parents are nearby. My mother in law's nearby. Everybody's nearby. I'm not leaving. Yeah, but. Yes. Could I make it more difficult? I guess I could if I, like, moved to San Diego. But, yeah, it's a haul.

[Angela Kinsey]

Listen, if my family lives somewhere here, I'd be where they are, but they're just all the way in Texas, and so I can't.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

You can't.

[Angela Kinsey]

I get that.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, well, thank you so much for driving so far with us today. I had no idea.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

No, I'm honored. Are you kidding?

[Angela Kinsey]

But wow. So you were doing that drive to go take classes at the Groundlings, and.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Sometimes we would get so nervous that we would just drive right past and go home.

[Angela Kinsey]

Stop it. Yeah, you'd make it all the way to Melrose and just say, I can't.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

I can't get out. Yeah, I'm too nervous.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, I took classes there. What year were you there, Wendy?

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

I started in 97. And you know how long it used to take? It would take like two years because the waiting list was so long.

[Angela Kinsey]

For so long. I think we bounced around, around the same time.

[Jenna Fischer]

What is your kind of like actory backstory, Wendy? Where are you? How did you get here? Are you from Long beach originally?

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Yeah. That's the only place I've ever lived. I never went away to school. I'm very boring.

[Angela Kinsey]

You're born and raised.

[Jenna Fischer]

Long Beach.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Stayed there. Long Beach. Long beach, yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

When did you get, like the acting bug or the comedy bug?

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Very early in life. But I didn't start really pursuing it in earnest until I got married at 26. So that's when, you know. Cause my husband was like, yeah, do it, do it. I believe you can do this. No one else in my life thought I could. So he was working a couple of jobs while I was taking classes at the Groundlings. And he would sit there and let me cut wigs on him and run lines with me and all this stuff. So I did the Groundlings a lot. I took classes at South Coast Rep, but I didn't go through the whole rep program. And then I just figured, well, I'll stay in this Groundlings thing until they vote me out. Cause that's how it works there, you know.

[Angela Kinsey]

I didn't make it that far.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

How far did you go?

[Angela Kinsey]

Lab. Right. Is before you go to. And then I had to. I got put on a list to repeat Lab. And I just never went back. I went to Improv Olympic. I started doing long form improv. The Herald at Improv Olympic while I was on the wait list, thinking I would always go Back like, oh, I'll do this while I wait. And then I just kind of met my people, and I loved it. And then I just stayed there and rode that out. And I was still doing shows there even when the Office started. And that's where I met Kate Flannery. Cause we were in a shit together called Bitch Planet.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Ooh. What?

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Oh, my God. I bet that was edgy.

[Angela Kinsey]

Sundays at 10pm no parking.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Don't you miss those days, though? Like, it was so fun. It was so fun doing these silly little shows and begging people to come and, you know, getting so many parking tickets. But, yeah. So I.

[Angela Kinsey]

So you were gonna just stay there and ride it out?

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Yeah. And, like, when my time's up, my time's up. But then I got in the company, which was nice. But then I started working, and I couldn't do as many shows as I wanted to, so. But that's how that happened. And then I was very frustrated because I thought, well, maybe I started this too late. Not really getting anywhere. I don't have an agent. Everybody would be in the dressing room talking about all the auditions they were going on. And I was like, well, I didn't even get a phone call. Cause I. You know, I don't have anyone repping me. And anyway, so I subbed for someone in a show. And that's how I got discovered to go audition for Reno.

[Angela Kinsey]

Right.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

And that worked out.

[Angela Kinsey]

How old were you when you got Reno?

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

So I was probably 32.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Does that feel kind of like a big milestone break? Like, things really changed.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

That was a big deal.

[Jenna Fischer]

It's so funny, Wendy. Thank you. I'm such a fan.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

But it was like, you know, basic cable. No one thought. I mean, it was like just going and doing arts and crafts with your friends, you know?

[Angela Kinsey]

But I feel like people keep finding it, don't you?

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

It's never been off the air. Yeah. Like, your show will never be off the air.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

So people keep coming to it in waves, and it's always a new discovery. And is it coming back? Is the office coming back in a new form? Okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. It's like the documentary film crew has found a new subject. And it's a small newspaper company that's.

[Angela Kinsey]

Kind of just dying this paper industry.

[Jenna Fischer]

So it's like the idea is that it's like the same people who made the documentary of Dunder Mifflin or making this documentary of the small paper company and following the employees the way they did before, but there's not currently any. Like, it's not our characters. Like Pam Beasley doesn't show up.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. So the through line is the documentary crew, not the people from Dunder Mifflin.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Oh, that's interesting.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

I feel like Reno911 also has the benefit of being very like. You can make really fun clips out of it. It pops up on my Instagram all the time. I. How many times have I seen your bit where you're doing the. You know what I'm gonna say? Probably the dancing dui. Dui.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

The DUI thing. Yeah. And that was one of the first things I ever did for that show.

[Jenna Fischer]

Really.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Which is crazy.

[Angela Kinsey]

That lives everywhere.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

That lives everywhere. That lives everywhere. And then we got to. You guys remember when Quibi came out, right? Oh, sure. Oh, right.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

So we got to resurrect it a little bit. And because of that, we, you know, we did a bunch of other episodes that folded while we were on set. Oh, my gosh. But the checks were. It went out of business whilst we were filming, but we just kept going. Cause we figured, well, someone's gonna pick it up. So then we knocked out a bunch of episodes and two more movies. So it's like the gift that keeps giving and whatever. I mean, I'm thrilled that I get to, you know, hang out and play with my friends, but it's just weird how things are cyclical like that, and I don't know. Yeah, very fun.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, I have a question for you. It comes from Christine M. In Ann Arbor, Michigan. She says, for this episode, did you have to handle a lot of Steve Carell's ad libbing? And if so, do you recall which was the scene that was the hardest for you to get through? Like, did you guys break?

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

I don't remember breaking. I do remember him ad libbing a little bit while we were. While he was just asking questions. Cause he was so thrilled to be with a concierge, you know, and her.

[Angela Kinsey]

Vast knowledge of, like, where you can.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Get your dry cleaning of Winnipegian, you know, hot stuff. Well, you know, and after I visited Winnipeg, that whole thing became so much more funny to me because there's just nothing there. But I remember thinking, don't break, because you are lucky to be here. So do not break.

[Angela Kinsey]

And Steve never breaks.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

He never breaks.

[Angela Kinsey]

He never breaks. And Oscar never breaks. And you had to be in scenes with both of them. Ed Helms will break.

[Jenna Fischer]

Ed does.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

But those two are like statues.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

And Oscar is a machine.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Because he had a recurring thing on Reno.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

And he would say these things, and I Would be like having a nosebleed, trying not to laugh. Like, I'm gonna have an aneurysm if I can't let this out. And when someone raises the bar like that, you just can't. And I'm a giggler, but damn it, I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna ruin a take.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, we've shared, like, we had to stop making eye contact with Steve. So, like, I don't know if you can really track where our eyes were, but I would look at his neck. Cause, like, if I looked in his eyes, I was a goner.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Yeah, that surprises me. Cause you two were so, like, in the moment. I don't know. I'm very surprised to hear that you guys were a lot of.

[Jenna Fischer]

There's a lot of footage, really, that they have for the blooper reel with me and Angela. Cause we would crack up a lot.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, we couldn't be next to each other. It was that sort of cumulative thing. Cause if I even felt her shoulder, you know, I'd be like, oh, yeah.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

You know, like.

[Angela Kinsey]

So then they just started putting us apart.

[Jenna Fischer]

I feel like Concierge Marie and Pam have a similar thing, which is that we had to play it totally straight against Steve's zaniness, you know, like, we had to just, like, stare at him. And you stare at him so well. But why do you think she hooked up with him? We actually got a question about it.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Here. Somebody said a few people wrote in Tara F. From Tustin, California, said, I need to understand more about Concierge Marie. Why was she in the bar alone? Why is she attracted to Michael? Was she having a bad day at the concierge desk and Michael made her feel seen?

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, there is this moment.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

To all of that. You nailed it.

[Angela Kinsey]

There is a moment when you go back and rewatch it, when he says, you know, after meeting Concierge Marie, that if you ever get to meet a concierge, it is intoxicating. And the camera rack focus and pushes in on you, and you look bored out of your fucking mind. You are just like, it's so great.

[Jenna Fischer]

It's so perfect.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Well, I think the listener who asked that question really nailed it. And again, in hotels, I used to see employees just drinking alone after work. You know, when you don't have anything to do and you can't make the drive home before you get a drink? You gotta get a drink at 5:01. You know what I mean?

[Jenna Fischer]

I mean, and the bar is right there.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

It's right there. And you get a discount and something might happen, you know, I think it was boredom. I think it was like, well, there are worse things I could be doing. But then I, you know, listen. She threw his shoes out into the hall. I think it didn't go well once.

[Angela Kinsey]

They got behind that door.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Empty calories. Oh, yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Did you do a little bit of a Canadian accent for concierge Marie? We got mail, and I think I heard it.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Well, there is that kind of. I was trying to do how I hear it.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

And that French Canadian accent is a little nasal.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

And okay. Dry cleaners. Like, it's clipped in a weird way. Now, maybe I just sounded like someone with a speech impediment, but that's how I hear that accent. So I don't know. I'm not saying it was good. I'm saying that I did that. Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

No, I liked it. I liked it. I one time did a press junket in Montreal, and the gal that showed us around had sort of a similar sound.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

And it was kind of a way she went up on the end of her words.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

You know?

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. I thought it was great.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Thank you. I'll put that on my. The special skills section.

[Angela Kinsey]

Special skills. Put it right next to roller skating. And those are my special skills. They're so fat.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Always.

[Jenna Fischer]

Do you have special skills, like back in the day when you had that resume? What were your special skills?

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

I am a pretty good roller skater.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

That's not a joke. I am, too. I love roller skating.

[Angela Kinsey]

I love roller skating.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

What kind of skates do you have?

[Angela Kinsey]

Girl, I got my roller skates. Holy crap. In the 90s in Huntington beach at a roller skating shop that I'm sure doesn't even exist anymore. And they're like the old brown suede stop. And I'm on my, I don't know, third set of wheels. I'm Southern. Sometimes I'm on my third set of wheels, and they're the wide ones because I like to be outside on my skates. Indoor skates are more slick, and that's fine. I'll go to a roller rink. That's fine. But I like the wheels that are made for outside. And then I have the big front stopper on the front, and then I have the little one on the back. I don't use it as much.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

You have one on the back?

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. That you can drag if you're going, oh, wow. I know that's hardcore, but I don't use it very often.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

I have some pink suede moxies oh, moxies.

[Angela Kinsey]

Those are nice.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

I mean, I have a few other pairs too. I have some sparkly ones that Jessica Simpson sent me. Did you know she made roller skates?

[Jenna Fischer]

I did not.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

My mind is blown.

[Angela Kinsey]

Uh huh. Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Ladies, can I say something right now?

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Yes.

[Jenna Fischer]

Is there like a movie, like part improv where you play sisters who roller skate? I mean, is this meant to be?

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Oh, my gosh, Jenna, you are onto something, right?

[Jenna Fischer]

I'm seeing it. You're seeing a vision.

[Angela Kinsey]

I don't know. I mean, I will come skate through the halls of St. Denis Medical with you.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

I mean, and we want this.

[Angela Kinsey]

You do.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Look at you.

[Angela Kinsey]

Look at us. We should be skating together. We should be.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Okay, sorry.

[Angela Kinsey]

I got very excited. I got very excited about roller skating. This show is sponsored by Squarespace. And as you guys know, we use Squarespace to do our Office Ladies website.

[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

I would say almost every single time Jenna leaves me a message after a trip, we always let each other know if we landed, if we made it safe.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yep.

[Angela Kinsey]

Jenna's like, lady, I landed. And I'm just doing my Instacart so that when I get home, my groceries are going to be there so I don't come home to a house with no food. And we've had a long travel day. And so you'll talk to me while you're doing your Instacart.

[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

Lady, are you talking about SimpliSafe?

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, did I not say that at the top?

[Jenna Fischer]

You didn't, but I think we all know.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Oh, good.

[Jenna Fischer]

You love it. You set it up yourself. You're not a techie person.

[Angela Kinsey]

I'm not a techy person. Josh and I, we did a combo platter. He and I set some of it up and then there was a few things we needed help on.

[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

That's right. It is security that is proactive, not reactive.

[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

You know, speaking of St. Denis Medical, we got a lot of letters from people who are fans of the show and of you specifically. We have started watching it. We love it.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's so good.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Thank you.

[Angela Kinsey]

Phenomenal cast.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Thank you.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes.

[Jenna Fischer]

You just got picked up for season two.

[Angela Kinsey]

Congratulations.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

[Jenna Fischer]

What can you tell us about working on it?

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Well, you guys know Justin. Justin Spitzer and he is the loveliest man.

[Jenna Fischer]

So wonderful.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Such a sweetheart.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

And for your listeners that have watched St. Denis, Justin was in our episode where we had a guy, a performer, come and do something for our pediatrics ward, and he's the one that did a somersault and juggled and then walked off stage. That was our Justin.

[Jenna Fischer]

I need to ask you about in the very first episode where you do a cartwheel, right?

[Angela Kinsey]

And everyone makes an audible like, yes.

[Jenna Fischer]

Was that scripted? No, you just can do cartwheels. I'm so impressed. Well, I can't do a cartwheel.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

But you can. You can if you just decide to do it and you do it. Cause what had been told to me by our showrunner, Eric, he came in and whispered in my ear, just be a real cheerleader about it. So I said, okay, I used to be a cheerleader, so that's what I'll do. So that's how I interpreted it. And he said later. Well, that's not what I meant. But that was funny.

[Jenna Fischer]

I mean, you really went for it.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Yeah, I went for it.

[Angela Kinsey]

You do sell it.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Well, listen, when you are trying to motivate a staff because you did something really dumb like buy a mammogram machine that you forget, oh, wait, maybe A, we can't afford it, and B, oh, yeah, I have to plug it in. And I don't know if we can handle all this stuff. You're gonna do anything to divert away from your stupidity, right? So she's being a cheerleader. She's trying to get everybody out there. Come on, let's be happy. Let's put on our game faces and heal some people.

[Jenna Fischer]

It's so great. But it also, like, it breaks your heart sometimes. Like, it gets real, real. You know, in a way, that is something that I always loved about the Office, too. Was that undercurrent of, like, real?

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Oh, yeah. I've cried so many tears watching the Office, because there's always something at the end that's like. And it's just a look or a turn of phrase where you're like, oh, that got me. That got me. These are real people. This is a real situation. Like, work families, it's important. You know, those are. You spend more time with your work family than you do with your real family, unfortunately. But that's good.

[Angela Kinsey]

You know, even in the pilot, Alison Tolman's character, which I met Alyson one time, we both went to the same university, not at the same time. I know. I'm a dinosaur.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Stop it.

[Angela Kinsey]

Stop it. You're very young, but she is so talented. And she's struggling throughout her day to try to make it to her daughter's play. Right? And boy, did I feel that. I felt that so hard.

[Jenna Fischer]

It was like I felt it viscerally like the stakes. And I think that's what I like about the show is that there are real stakes. But then it's so incredibly funny. I mean, what a gift.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

It was pretty delicious. When I read that pilot script, it was like, yeah, I think I gotta do this. I think I gotta do this. This is funny.

[Angela Kinsey]

So funny. And I have to ask you about working with Steve Little because I worked with him as well on Haters Back Off. And it might be I told Jenna this when I was doing that show at the time. Maybe of all the other times I've laughed so hard, which would have been in a conference room in the office when Steve Carell was doing his thing and we could all barely keep it together. The second hardest I've ever laughed on a set was with Steve Little when him and I had this weird romance and we had a date in a bathtub, but there was no water in a bathtub. And we were. Anyway, it was ridiculous. But he is so funny. He's so amazing.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

He is so funny. And he was my good luck charm at the Groundlings. He really was in the Sunday Company if I was struggling, I knew if I write something with Steve, it will get on and it will be a hit. I knew this, and I just love that guy. Like, I've tried to bring him wherever I am. Like, wherever I can shove him in, I try to do that. We did like a dramatic film and played husband and wife. It's called Blush. It was just a little festival film. But he's so such a gift. And like every time I. You know how sometimes you recommend people and you think, oh, God, maybe I shouldn't have done that. Maybe. I hope they don't embarrass me or anything. Every time I recommend him, I get thank you calls from people like, oh, he just elevated everything we did. And yeah, he's so great. I love that you love him. He's a good guy.

[Jenna Fischer]

Wendy, I can't believe we haven't discussed your kissing scene with Steve Carell where Michael and Concierge Marie are just making out in an alley at night. I know what is going on, which.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Was delightful and I highly recommend it. He is a good kisser. And for the audience at home, one thing that you don't want to be doing. And I'm sure you guys have experienced this. When you've had to make out with people on different sets is like, sometimes. How do I want to say this? There's like, an unspoken thing of, like, don't shove your tongue in somebody's mouth. Just. Just make it look like you're chomping.

[Jenna Fischer]

Stage kissing.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Stage kissing. Some people don't know how to do that.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, yeah.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

And you. And you leave going, oh, gross. What am I gonna. Oh, God. I gotta go to the doctor right away.

[Angela Kinsey]

Where's the mouthwash?

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Where's the pine sol? I don't know. But, yeah, he was delightful. And it was, you know, quick and dirty, and it wasn't uncomfortable at all. And, you know, you always feel weird when you're married and someone else is married. Like, it's a character thing, but still, you don't want to step on toes. No.

[Jenna Fischer]

So you're just like, hi, nice to meet you.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Nice to make out with you.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

I did a kissing scene with a very famous and handsome actor once. And so I went to do the scene. The way they kissed me was really odd. Oh, no. And it was like this, like, sort of like, it was like, I mean, I'm gonna do it for you guys, but nobody can see it. But it's like, oh, like he was.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Eating a steak a little bit.

[Jenna Fischer]

Like, there was, like, a person, like a. Like, really pursing the lips out.

[Angela Kinsey]

This is like a horse going for a carrot.

[Jenna Fischer]

That's what I'm seeing. Yes.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Thank you.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

Like when it nibbles at something.

[Jenna Fischer]

And I was like, that is so weird. I have seen this person kiss in other things, and it always looks real smoldering. And so I went home and I told Lee about it, and he said to me, you know what? I bet this looks killer on camera. Because, of course he's seeing it as a director, right? And I was like, do you think so? So we got out a phone and we kissed, me and my husband, the way we would normally kiss. Right? The one that gives us all the feels.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Right.

[Jenna Fischer]

And then we filmed ourselves doing the arm wrong kiss.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Right.

[Jenna Fischer]

And we watched it back. My husband was right.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Really weird.

[Jenna Fischer]

Like, lip kisses looked so sensual and amazing, but to do it was, like, not at all fun or would never lead me to want to in real life.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

It would lead you to leaving.

[Jenna Fischer]

It was correct. And we were stunned. And then when I saw it on screen, I was like, oh, really?

[Angela Kinsey]

I have two thoughts as this story is washing over me. One is, wouldn't you maybe just give someone A heads up, like, hey, I'm gonna kiss you.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Kind of.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's kind of like a over pronounced kiss. Just get ready for it. I promise it looks good on camera. So then you're prepared because otherwise, like, what's it like on the receiving end of the horse bun?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, well, it was. Listen, it was one of those things where like in Wendy's situation, it was a one day job. Like I had to show up, I had to kiss somebody, I had to get out of here.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

But that's very interesting. Like the, the weird chomping carrot eating, street corn eating. That looks good on super hot. And you tested this in your own laboratory, which I appreciate. You know, it is. You've proven that's amazing.

[Jenna Fischer]

Go home and try it.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

I'm gonna.

[Angela Kinsey]

As you were talking about all that, I mean, Wendy, I want you to know, I. This morning, with like my cup of tea in my robe, under my blanket, with all my weird rescue animals, I watched this YouTube clip called Best of Rita from Bridesmaids.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Oh, yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

I was laughing so hard. And you know, my husband's an early riser. I'm not. He's already been to the gym and the grocery store and he's coming in all gym, sweaty person. And I'm sitting on the couch in my robe with a cup of tea, surrounded by animals, and I am laughing my ass off. And it's early. And he's like, what are you doing? And I was like, I'm just watching Wendy, like the outtakes. You say this line, which is what made me think of this. You say to Ellie's character, you're talking about being married and having sex and stuff. And she said, so you guys don't really have sex anymore? And you were like, oh, no, we have sex all the time. He hasn't kissed me in five years. And it just cracked me up. Yeah, those are so delicious, those outtakes from Bridesmaids.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Thank you.

[Angela Kinsey]

That looked like so much fun.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

I forgot about that. That was very fun. That was very fun. And you guys got to work with the glorious Ellie Camper, who I have not seen in 12 years or whatever. But, you know, she seems to be doing well.

[Angela Kinsey]

She's doing great and she's the sweetest. But it looked like they just set the camera up and let it roll on the two of you and how many times you guys riff different things. It's just brilliant.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

It's brilliant comedy. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

[Jenna Fischer]

Paul Feig. Paul Feig was such a big part of the Office as well.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

And Paul Dresses so well that you feel like, well, I have to listen to you. I know you're the best dressed person here.

[Angela Kinsey]

He is the best person I know in my life. Like, consistently best dressed.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

I wish I had that kind of confidence in myself or I don't know how to even say it. Like, I wish I cared that much. To get up and put on an.

[Angela Kinsey]

Outfit every day, just the willpower to make it happen every day is kind of amazing.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Amazing.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, as we are kind of getting ready to wrap up here, we're going to ask you our call sheet questions. But you've been in so many things, Wende. Is there any. Anything that stands out to you? A favorite memory or project or person you've worked with? Oh, I mean, there's so many.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Yeah, I listen, I'm so lucky that I got to have George Segel as my dad for eight seasons on the Goldbergs. I was so lucky that I got to do that job at all. You know, I don't have kids. I got to have kids and get that out of my system. I got to live through the 80s again and I got to work with probably 200 of the most amazing people that I will ever meet in my life. So, like, that was such a blessing. But having George Siegel, the legend, be my dad and I got to stare into those big blue eyes on camera like, oh, I will be eternally grateful that I got to do that. That was really fun for me.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. And that show was ten seasons.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. I mean, I feel like we talk about this. Cause a lot of life happens in that amount of time. Just you really do become a family. The cast and crew.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. And so many. I mean, you guys know, marriages, divorces, people getting sober, people having kids, losing family members, losing pets. Like, you're in it for everybody. And it's so special that you crave those people when you're on hiatus.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

You're like, I can't wait to go back and tell so and so from Transpo that I watch this game on tv. You know, like, you just. They're your buds, they're your buddies. So that's what I wish for every actor out there is to be able to have an amazing work situation like that. A long running thing where you really get to bond with people. Cause it's very, very special. It is.

[Angela Kinsey]

And then you rap and you miss each other, and anytime you get to see each other, it's just like unbelievable. And then you text your best friend and you're like back and forth when.

[Jenna Fischer]

Can we work together again?

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then there's the reality of God. You really want to see everybody all the time, and you really mean to get in touch, and then five years go by. Well, yeah, it's just you pick up right when you left off. You do.

[Angela Kinsey]

That's the beauty of it.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

All right, well, here are our call sheet questions. Let's start with number one. What was your first entertainment job?

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

My first entertainment job? I believe I was. Oh, it was a music video. It was a music video.

[Angela Kinsey]

What music video?

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

This is so dumb. I was an extra in a Carmen Electra video.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, my God, that's amazing. That is amazing.

[Jenna Fischer]

What did you have to do? Did you have to dance? Yeah.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

And we had to audition. It was like there were auditions and callbacks just to be extras to Club Dance in the background. It was so silly. And I believe I was paid $100 in cash, you guys. And that's not nothing.

[Jenna Fischer]

Uh, were you a clubber? Did you have that in your life? Not really. Full on. Faking it.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

I was faking it.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

I was faking it.

[Angela Kinsey]

But you know the Long beach club scene.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Not really. And there were a lot of clubs, but I just never had any money.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, yeah, it's expensive.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

It's expensive to go out and drink.

[Angela Kinsey]

And, like, pay for the high price cocktails.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Forget it.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

All right, number two, do you speak any other languages?

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

I have taken German and French and I can read it pretty well. I can't understand it if someone's speaking it, unfortunately.

[Angela Kinsey]

But you can read it?

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

I can read it.

[Jenna Fischer]

Has that come in handy ever?

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

I did get to go to the Olympics this past summer, so, yeah, it came in a little bit handy, but I was also, like, too nervous to trust my instincts, so luckily we had guides and everything.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay, number three, what's a place you've been to that you absolutely loved?

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

I love New Orleans so much that I talked my husband into buying a condo there. Oh, wow. So we have the tiniest little condo in the French Quarter. I love it. It's like living in the middle of Disneyland. I mean, it's so fun.

[Angela Kinsey]

That town just has a whole energy.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

To it, doesn't it?

[Angela Kinsey]

It's just so cool.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Yeah, I love it. And we go as often as we can. And I mean, I love that you walk out in the morning and there's music playing.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

People dancing.

[Angela Kinsey]

And people just might start dancing down the street.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

I was fortunate enough. I did two movies there, but I have family from Louisiana. I just loved on the days that I had off, I would just go walk. And you always saw something. It's kind of like when you tell me stories, Jenna, about Manhattan. Like, you always see something.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. Do you have a favorite food from there? Like, are you into the cuisine as well?

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

I'm not into the cuisine.

[Jenna Fischer]

That much cuisine. A little.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

I don't eat shellfish or fish of any kind, so that takes a lot of it off the table. But listen, just give me some red beans and rice, and I am happy.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

I do like really hot food.

[Angela Kinsey]

There's really good chicken gumbo. Cause you don't always have to have the gumbo with everything in it. There's a great gumbo at Herb Saints. It's my favorite restaurant in New Orleans. Steve Zahn turned me onto it because he did treme there for, like, ooh, seasons. I tell every single person that I know going to New Orleans to go to Herb Saints.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Oh, okay. We're gonna go next time.

[Jenna Fischer]

Would that be your dream? A job like that would be so fun. Where you live there?

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

I don't think I could live there.

[Jenna Fischer]

For a long time for it.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

My sister and I went. We just needed to have a sister's weekend, and she had been there. She said, oh, you're gonna love it. I went there with my sister, had the most amazing time, but also felt like, did I live here in a past life or something? Something about it felt very familiar to me. And I like walking down the street, and you kind of feel like, you know everybody. I can't explain it, but there's.

[Angela Kinsey]

There was like.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

There's just so many freaks there. Yeah. I love people who are just, like, super friendly, and I don't know. I'll take it from there. I won't take it from everywhere. Yeah. But every time you walk down the street, to your point, there's something weird going on. You're gonna see something that you weren't expecting always, you know? And is it haunted? Yes, but we won't get into that now.

[Angela Kinsey]

That's a different podcast.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

But, you know, a friend of mine has this theory. He's a comedy writer, and the first time he went to London, he was like, I kind of like, I can't explain it exactly, but I felt it in my bones. Like, I think my people were here at some time. He said, I just felt so grounded in this place that I've never lived in. And I don't know, I feel like.

[Jenna Fischer]

That'S how I feel about New York City.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Really.

[Jenna Fischer]

I don't know what it is. I didn't go there Till I was 26 years old. I didn't fall in love with it till my 30s. But there's a piece of me that makes sense there, and it's never made sense anywhere else in the world.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Have you lived there ever? Or did you? You did.

[Jenna Fischer]

I have a little bit.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. But short periods of time. But I hope to retire there. It's my happy place.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

It's a magical place, too. And it's the center of the universe. I mean, let's be honest. New York City, everything you need is there.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, it's true. It's such an amazing town.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

It really is.

[Jenna Fischer]

All right, question number four. What do you like to do on the weekends?

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

I love to putter around at home. I'm not that exciting. I love my animals. You know, I got seven rescue cats.

[Angela Kinsey]

Seven?

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

What are their names?

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Butters is the most dominant. He has to be kept away from the other six.

[Angela Kinsey]

He's very, very featured on your Instagram.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

And he demands it. He is the host.

[Jenna Fischer]

What color is he?

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

He is buttery colored.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

And when you come over for skating, he will command your attention, and you will need to compliment him because he expects it. Okay, I got three Siamese, a mom, and two of her babies. So that's Mocha, Cotton, and Gerber.

[Jenna Fischer]

Are they talkative?

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Not really. Oh, not really.

[Jenna Fischer]

I've always shied away from Siamese because I thought they were very vocal.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

They are. Mine are not. Okay, so I don't know what that's about. Or maybe they only talk when I'm not there.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay.

[Angela Kinsey]

My aunt had a really chatty Siamese she named Nuisance, and she'd be like, nuisance. Stop it.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

That's the greatest name for a kitty I know. Oh, man. Nuisance, no sense. We have a tripod named Wabi Sabi. We have a fat, fat ginger named Obi Wan. He was found strolling the streets of Hollywood as a kitten. Someone gave it to me. And. Oh, little Jack's we have a little tiger. Boy was the runt of the litter. Aww, Jacks. I think that's all of them. Yeah. So, yeah, I love just puttering. I like sewing. I'm really getting into sewing more.

[Angela Kinsey]

What do you sew?

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Clothes.

[Angela Kinsey]

You make clothes?

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

My dream is to sew something that I wear on the red carpet and.

[Jenna Fischer]

Say, I want this dream to come true.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Yeah. I want to make a show about it.

[Jenna Fischer]

I hope that you will.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

I want there to be a Rachael Ray.

[Angela Kinsey]

And you say, me, Me.

[Jenna Fischer]

I'M wearing me.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Thank you. Okay. You're gonna be on this show.

[Jenna Fischer]

I'm on it.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Bring me on, I think.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Cause getting dressed for special events is a big pain in the ass.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Right. So why shouldn't we know how to sew our own stuff? I'm sorry. My mom used to sew all my formal gowns, and I always had the best gowns.

[Angela Kinsey]

My mom would sew all of our, like, Easter outfits. And she sewed for so long. She will still. She still makes stuff all the time. Like, I'm constantly bringing, like, pot holders and things over to Jenna's that my mom, like, was like, I had extra fabric. Here's a potholder.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Oh, you know, that's so sweet. That's such a mom thing to do. It really is.

[Angela Kinsey]

I was so bad, though. My sisters and I don't sew. And we're like, one of us needs to carry on this tradition. One of us needs to learn how to do it.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

It's so meditative, really. I love cutting patterns, and I've learned how to drape on a mannequin and stuff.

[Jenna Fischer]

That's huge.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

But I need to. It's like, I do things in fits and starts, so I need to, like, really devote some time to it. But, you know, I watch a lot of TikTok, so I think, oh, now I'm a do it yourselfer. So I make a lot of messes or I start a lot of projects that never get finished.

[Angela Kinsey]

That's the show I wanna watch is the DIY people that start, like, I have an IKEA hack. I'm gonna make a library in my foyer. And I have all this crown, my molding, and then they're just like it.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

And they bail halfway through.

[Angela Kinsey]

That would be me.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

That is absolutely me. A half built house. Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

A half built library.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

As you walk in with all our.

[Angela Kinsey]

Clutter and stuffed in it.

[Jenna Fischer]

St. Denis Medical, season two, up fronts. Can your outfit be ready?

[Angela Kinsey]

Challenge.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Challenge accepted. Challenge accepted. Let me see what I can do.

[Jenna Fischer]

Maybe TCAs. That's later in the year, so you have a little more time.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

I'll do it.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

I'm gonna do it.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay.

[Angela Kinsey]

Jenna is.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

I'm so gonna do it. Okay.

[Angela Kinsey]

She's a motivator. She'll give you a date and you're like, all right.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

TCAs that I can make happen.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, that's exciting. Yeah.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

All right. I'm doing it.

[Jenna Fischer]

We're gonna feature this outfit on Office Ladies.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

I sure will. All right.

[Jenna Fischer]

Sure.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

It'll be taped together.

[Angela Kinsey]

No one's gonna see that. Tay.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

No, they're not in the back.

[Angela Kinsey]

All right, number five, this is the final question.

[Jenna Fischer]

Final question.

[Angela Kinsey]

Do you have a favorite midnight snack?

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

No, because I don't eat after, like, seven.

[Angela Kinsey]

That's very good for your body. I have read.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

I do have a midnight drink that I have, which is very silly. I'm not a good sleeper. I'm a terrible insomniac. So my sleep, I have to, like, really be regimented about it. But there's this magnesium drink, this berry flavored magnesium drink that is delicious and it makes you feel like hot butter melting in a pan. You just, like, drift off and it's called Tru T R U. I've heard of this.

[Jenna Fischer]

I also struggle with sleep. And there's always the debate. Magnesium or what's the other thing?

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Pot.

[Jenna Fischer]

Gummies.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

A gummy.

[Jenna Fischer]

Melatonin.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Melatonin, yes. Melatonin takes too long. It's gotta build up in your system.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay, but this magnesium drink, it's game changing.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

It really is. You gotta take it, like an hour before you're ready to go to bed.

[Angela Kinsey]

Lady, I wrote it down for you.

[Jenna Fischer]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, there you have it.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

You're welcome.

[Angela Kinsey]

We're ladies. In a certain season, we need our sleep.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Yeah. Otherwise, what are you gonna do? Stay up at night worrying?

[Angela Kinsey]

No.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Thinking about all the things you shouldn't have said during the day. That's what I do.

[Angela Kinsey]

This is you, Jenna.

[Jenna Fischer]

I know. We're the same.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

You gotta just.

[Jenna Fischer]

We're the same.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Melt into the sheets.

[Jenna Fischer]

Now, will this keep you asleep all night as well? Cause you keep you awake. No, keep you asleep.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Yeah, you wanna be asleep.

[Jenna Fischer]

Will this magnesium drink keep you asleep? Because one of my problems is, like, oh, sure, I'll fall asleep, but in.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Three hours, you're gonna wake up.

[Jenna Fischer]

I'm gonna wake up from a hot flash.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Oh, then it's a whole.

[Jenna Fischer]

We start the whole game, the game calls, fall asleep again.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Yeah. I would guarantee you're gonna get at least four good hours.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

That's nothing.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Hot flashes are its own devil. Do you turn the air on? Do you?

[Jenna Fischer]

So I sleep with a fan blowing on my side of the bed.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

It's this big standup fan.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

We need to put a piece of glow tape on it because. Oh, I need it positioned, like, really kind of right in front of the bed, but it's also right in the walkway to the bathroom.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Oh, so you run into it all the time.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, I don't, but if my husband has to go to the bathroom, he runs into it. If the kids come in in the middle of the night, they run into it.

[Angela Kinsey]

So, like, this is, like, ridiculous.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

And that's gonna wake you up too, isn't it?

[Jenna Fischer]

It really is. It really is. So we just. We need to. I don't know. And at night, I'll say, hey, everybody, don't run into the fan if you have to come in. Don't. Remember, don't run into mom's fan.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Right.

[Angela Kinsey]

And then they all just use. Gosh.

[Jenna Fischer]

There we go.

[Angela Kinsey]

That's hilarious. Wendy, thank you so much for being on our podcast.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Thank you for having me. Thank you. I didn't bloviate for too long.

[Angela Kinsey]

You did not bloviate at all. You were just. You're just a badass. You are so funny and so smart, and we are just thrilled to just have had this time with you.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

You are talking about yourself. You are talking about yourself.

[Angela Kinsey]

You stop it.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

You are the badasses.

[Jenna Fischer]

I really appreciate how vulnerable you were in talking about, like, how you've been fired. I've shared on the podcast before how I've been fired.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

And.

[Jenna Fischer]

And it's like. Cause I think people look at you and we see all the successes. We see 10 seasons of the Goldbergs and Reno 911, and you don't see all the lows. And I think it's really helpful for aspiring artists to know there are ups and downs, and you just keep going, and you never know, and new, wonderful things will find you. And, I mean, now, here, St. Denis.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Medical, you know, there's like, an actor's checklist. Like, you're gonna get fired. Yeah, you're just gonna get fired. Check it off the list. Someone's gonna tell you you're ugly. Check it off the list.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yep. Got that one.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

None of this stuff is true unless you think it's true.

[Angela Kinsey]

Right?

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

But it's probably not true. Like, just. Just get used to it. Make friends with it. If you're not supposed to be somewhere, sometimes it takes something terrible to move you away from it. That's just how it goes. And so then it makes you question, do I really wanna keep doing this? And if the answer is yes, buck up and just keep going. And a lot of times, your biggest breakthrough won't happen until something catastrophic happens. That's like a hallmark of good things to come. So all you guys out there that are feeling like you want to do this, it's not easy, but it is very fun. The good times are really, really good.

[Angela Kinsey]

And you appreciate them because of the Journey. It's a journey.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Aw.

[Jenna Fischer]

Thank you so much.

[Wendy McLendon-Covey]

Thank you for having me.

[Angela Kinsey]

Thank you.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, everyone, that was our chat with Wendy McLendon Covey, and I loved it.

[Angela Kinsey]

She's just so funny, like, just in person. Just like how she talks and her stories and anyway, wow, what a treat.

[Jenna Fischer]

And of course, Angela is going to share all the links to all the things that we talked about. And you have to check out St. Denis Medical.

[Angela Kinsey]

It is a phenomenal cast, a great show, and we are so excited for season two.

[Jenna Fischer]

All right, everyone, thank you for writing in your questions and we will see you next week.

[Angela Kinsey]

See you then.

[Jenna Fischer]

Thank you for listening to Office Ladies.

[Angela Kinsey]

Office Ladies. Office Ladies is a presentation of Odyssey and is produced by Jenna Fisher and Angela Kinsey.

[Jenna Fischer]

Our executive producer is Cassie Jerkins, our audio engineer is Sam Kieffer, and our associate producer is Ainslie Bubaco.

[Angela Kinsey]

Odyssey's executive producer is Leah Reese Dennis.

[Jenna Fischer]

Office Ladies was mixed and mastered by Bill Schultz.

[Angela Kinsey]

Our theme song is Rubber Tree by Creed Bratton.

[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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