Bobby Lee and Nimrods

Summary

Office Ladies Podcast: "Bobby Lee and Nimrods"

Date: August 12, 2026
Hosts: Jenna Fischer & Angela Kinsey
Special Guest: Bobby Lee

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Episode Overview

In this lively, heartfelt, and laughter-filled episode, Jenna and Angela—best friends and The Office alums—invite comedian and actor Bobby Lee to the studio for a candid conversation. The trio dives deep into their new film Nimrods, shares hilarious behind-the-scenes stories from their previous work, and go off-script into personal territory—including reflections on career growth, creative collaboration, resilience, and the challenges of being in show business. Fans also get advice about mixing business with marriage and an inside look at what it’s like to survive (and sometimes fumble) as working actors.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Red Carpet Nerves & Nimrods Premiere

• [02:26–03:22] Jenna and Angela kick things off gushing about the Nimrods premiere, confessing their red carpet awkwardness and laugh over how they practice posing—only to forget it all in the moment.
  • "I never remember how to stick, where to put my hand. I have to practice." (Angela, 02:49)
  • Jenna’s “one pose” rule: “It doesn’t matter if they yell at me...I only know this one way to stand.” (Jenna, 03:03)

2. Nimrods: A Punk Rock Road Movie, Green Day, & Movie Backstory

• [04:06–07:01] Jenna gives a passionate pitch for Nimrods: a teen punk band (played by Mason Thames, Kyler Kaufman, Ryan Faust) sets off to open for Green Day—unaware it’s an epic prank—mirroring true Green Day road stories.
  • The movie developed with Green Day’s involvement and inspired by their pre-Dookie adventures.
  • Jenna’s husband, Lee Kirk, wrote and directed the film, crafting a “historical fiction” with inside Green Day references and appearances.
  • “Historical fiction...it's not a biopic, but there's a lot of things in the movie that are from their lives.” (Jenna quoting Tre Cool, 05:39)
  • Enthusiastic shout-outs to cast, soundtrack, and co-stars, including Bobby Lee as Otis the security guard.

3. Advice: Working With Your Spouse/Partner

• [07:17–11:59] Answering a listener’s question, Angela and Jenna reflect on their own experiences collaborating with their husbands (and with each other).
  • Success comes from mutual respect for each other’s strengths and making intentional space for personal (non-work) connection.
  • “You want to make sure you're still a couple...all the things that make you a couple, not just business partners.” (Angela, 10:23)
  • They liken working with a spouse to their own friendship/business partnership: don’t let work overshadow the personal relationship.

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In-Depth: The Bobby Lee Interview

4. Splitting Up Together: Bobby's Infamous Oversleeping Incident

• [14:38–18:23] Bobby brings humor and humility as he retells the story of sleeping through his call time, prompting a PA to enter his house.
  • “So I woke up...it's now 10:30...and I come out, and I realize...what time is it?...the panic of it.” (Bobby, 15:24)
  • The showrunner’s ominous but gentle reprimand: “Don’t ever do that again.” (Bobby, 18:36)

5. The Phone (Candy Crush) Incident

• [18:46–23:22] A notorious tale: during Jenna’s big emotional scene, Bobby is caught playing Candy Crush off-camera.
  • Jenna: “You are looking down, like, kind of playing Candy Crush into your lap...that’s odd.” (Jenna, 21:13)
  • Angela explains the sacredness of being a scene partner, referencing group scene etiquette learned on The Office: “Nine years of Steve Carell being up in front of everyone and us just looking at him.” (Angela, 22:48)
  • Bobby admits shame, apologizes again, and they all laugh it off.

6. Authenticity in Comedy & Acting

• [25:08–26:17] Bobby, riffing on how Nimrods feels “lived in and real,” compares it to classic Spielberg films.
  • “Early Spielberg...the houses [are] lived in...If it’s not lived in, I can’t buy into it...I like it when it’s, like, lived in.”* (Bobby, 25:37)
  • Jenna elaborates on the set design, praising Adam Reamer’s work.

7. Personal Resilience: Jenna’s Cancer Battle & Art

• [26:30–29:35] Jenna shares raw, vulnerable details about filming Nimrods just two weeks after finishing cancer treatment.
  • “I shot this movie two weeks after I had my port removed…It was such a gift to me to take that and put it into this part…so, for me, this movie is really, really special because I got to take something hard that happened to me, and I got to put it into art.” (Jenna, 26:33)
  • Bobby and Angela empathize about transformative life chapters—Bobby with sobriety, Angela on supporting loved ones through health crises.

8. Casting Stories, Mentorship, and Paying It Forward

• [31:01–35:57] Bobby talks about getting the Nimrods role, his LA neighborhoods, and connections in comedy (including a wild tale of living above the Comedy Store).
  • Angela thanks Bobby for mentoring young actor Ryan Faust, letting him open at his stand-up shows:
  • “I just love people that are brave and…I'm willing to hold someone's hand to do that.” (Bobby, 34:45)
  • Reflection on industry generosity: “In order to achieve success, you have to help people achieve success.” (Bobby, 35:02)

9. The Showbiz Hamster Wheel and Making It

• [36:20–39:15] Bobby incredulously explains his struggle with feeling like he’s “made it,” despite being in the opening credits for Nimrods (his first!), a signal milestone.
  • “This is the first movie, Nimrods, where I was in the opening credits...I've been in this business for so long...But...this chasing thing, I think I'm done with.” (Bobby, 38:23)
  • Angela echoes the fatigue, advocating for contentment and stepping off the showbiz treadmill.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• Red Carpet Nerves
  "I never remember how to stick, where to put my hand. I have to practice." (Angela, 02:49)
• On collaboration:
  "If you have that mutual respect with your partner, then I think you can be in business together." (Jenna, 09:11)
• On “making it:”
  "It never seems like I made it." (Bobby, 38:10) "Happiness is a warm...yes, it is." (Bobby, 39:15, tongue-in-cheek)
• After recapping his Candy Crush incident:
  "But I've been thinking about that every day since." (Bobby, 52:43)
• On letting go of embarrassment:
  "We perceive things like, personally, and we ruminate about things...And it might not even be true to them." (Bobby, 51:52)
• Table Read Anxiety:
  "They made a compilation of my bad table reads." (Bobby, 45:44)

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Additional Highlights

Showbiz Small Talk and “So Badges”

• [46:26–52:17] Jenna and Bobby swap stories about being “the new kid” or “co star”—from Jenna’s awkward moment with Heather Locklear to Bobby’s foot fungus overshare with Sarah Jessica Parker.
• Insight: Embarrassing on-set moments haunt actors…but often only themselves.

Bobby on MADtv and Improv Anxiety

• [43:00–45:44] Details Bobby’s MADtv audition experience, learning on his feet as a new actor, and the difficulty of table reads—something he (and many guests) still dreads.

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Closing & Call-to-Actions

Nimrods Release & Guest Plugs

• “Nimrods” opens in theaters August 14th. The hosts repeatedly encourage listeners to see it with friends and to spot Sam in the finale crowd shot.
• Bobby Lee’s first stand-up special is coming to Hulu in November. He co-hosts the popular podcasts Bad Friends and TigerBelly.

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Timestamps for Noteworthy Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|---------| | 02:26 | Red carpet nerves practice & laughs | | 04:06 | Nimrods synopsis & Green Day involvement | | 07:17 | Working with your spouse/friend advice | | 14:38 | Bobby Lee’s “sleeping in” Splitting Up Together story | | 18:46 | The Candy Crush/phone-on-set incident | | 25:08 | Bobby talks about authentic production design, Spielberg | | 26:30 | Jenna shares cancer recovery and filming Nimrods | | 31:01 | Bobby’s LA comedy stories, mentorship with Ryan Faust | | 36:20 | Bobby and Angela on “making it” and industry burnout | | 43:00 | Bobby’s MADtv audition and acting learning curve | | 46:26 | Jenna and Bobby’s most awkward co- and guest-star moments | | 51:52 | Bobby’s insight on letting go of self-consciousness about past mistakes | | 52:56 | Bobby’s Hulu special plug; Nimrods release reminders |

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Tone & Takeaway

The entire episode radiates the warm, self-deprecating, and supportive humor Office Ladies fans love: candid confessions, showbiz wisdom, and genuine affection between all three guests. It’s both a celebration of the new film Nimrods and a nuanced look at the resilience, humility, and personal growth required to thrive in entertainment—and in close creative partnerships.

If you love Green Day, behind-the-scenes showbiz tales, or sincere talk about bouncing back from personal lows, this episode is a must-listen.

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Angela Kinsey]

Hello. Hi.

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So lady, you know that the day that this podcast airs.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

We are gonna be walking the Nimrods red carpet.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh my gosh. It's the day of the premiere. Today. Today, when everyone hears this, that's what

[Jenna Fischer]

we'll be doing that evening.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh my gosh.

[Jenna Fischer]

Followed by a big old party. It's gonna be fun.

[Angela Kinsey]

I haven't done one of those in a long time.

[Jenna Fischer]

Me either. And I'm actually kind of excited.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, my gosh. I never remember how to stick, where to put my hand. I have to practice.

[Jenna Fischer]

Let's practice. Okay, we'll do what we do. Cause you have to do this. You have to put on your outfit, and you have to have someone take pictures of you in different poses. And then what I do is I pick the one very good one. And that's the only way I'll stand. It doesn't matter if they yell at me. It doesn't matter if they say over the shoulder. I only know this one way to stand.

[Angela Kinsey]

That's it. I literally, the minute I get on a red carpet, completely forget all the things I practice, and then I stand like an idiot.

[Jenna Fischer]

I know.

[Angela Kinsey]

Same. Well, maybe there's a learning curve. Who knows? But before we're at the Nimrods premiere on the red carpet, we have a really special episode for you guys to listen to today in the studio with us is hilarious comedian and actor Bobby Lee. So fun.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

And, Jenna, you did a television show with Bobby.

[Jenna Fischer]

I did, yes. We did two seasons of the ABC show splitting up together.

[Angela Kinsey]

And we talk a little bit about that today.

[Jenna Fischer]

We do. We hash a few things. Things out from that time.

[Angela Kinsey]

You did. But, you guys, today, as we're getting ready to walk that premier red carpet for Nimrods, we are going to be talking all about it because you guys get to see it out in theaters this Friday, August 14th.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, you guys, I am so, so excited about this movie. Okay, here's what it's about. This movie stars Mason tames as Tommy, and he gets a phone call inviting his teen punk band to open for Green Day on New Year's Eve.

[Angela Kinsey]

Amazing.

[Jenna Fischer]

Amazing. Unfortunately, he does not realize that this is actually an elaborate prank. So believing that his life is about to change, he sets out on a road trip with his bandmates, who are played by Kyler Kaufman and Ryan Faust. And y', all, this movie is produced with Green Day, and Green Day was part of writing the story.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, it's sort of based loosely on their early days as a band.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes, the stuff that happens to these kids in the movie on their way to Los Angeles to quote unquote, open for Green Day was inspired by Green Day's early days of touring in a van together before their breakout record, Dookie. So, like, pre Dookie, these are the things that happened to Green Day. The movie was written and also directed by My husband Lee, Kirk and Jenna

[Angela Kinsey]

Lee spent hours with Billie Jo. The band. Right. Developing the stories and everything.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. It started because Billie Joe called Lee and said, I would really like to do a Green Day movie. They had collaborated before. So, yes, Lee interviewed the band, and then he weaved their stories into the script. So I was talking to Trey Cool, the drummer of Green Day. I was just talking to him. It's not a big deal.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know, I know.

[Jenna Fischer]

I talked to Mike.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know, I know, lady. I know how much you're geeking out.

[Jenna Fischer]

But I was talking to Trey, and he called the movie Historical Fiction, which I thought was a really good description because it's not a biopic. But there's a lot of things in the movie that are from their lives. Like, for example, in the movie, the character Fred, played by Kyler Kaufman, has this puppet that he takes on the road named Gravy. And Gravy does all these bad puns, and he drives the other guys nuts. And in the early days, Mike had a puppet named Gravy.

[Bobby Lee]

Oh.

[Angela Kinsey]

Mm.

[Jenna Fischer]

And also, if you are a super big Green Day fan, you're gonna see an appearance by Sleepy. And that's all I'm gonna say. Green Day fans will know who Sleepy is.

[Angela Kinsey]

And then, of course, the movie is also just full of fantastic Green Day songs.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. And Lee got to choose songs from the entire Green Day catalog. They said whatever song you want. The soundtrack for this movie is sick. That's what the kids say.

[Angela Kinsey]

Are you being hit?

[Jenna Fischer]

I learned that on the movie. They call it sick. Okay, but everyone, it is really such a fun movie. It's multi generational. The young cast is incredible. I mentioned Mason, Kyler, and Ryan, but it also stars McKenna Grace, Ignacio Diaz Silverio, and Keen Ruffalo. And then you've also got Fred Armisen, Sean Gunn, me, Angela, and our guest today, Bobby Lee, who plays Otis, the security guard.

[Angela Kinsey]

What a lineup.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

I mean, what a group. And listen, you guys, Bobby is so funny in the movie, and I really loved our interview with him. I think you guys are gonna en. It has some twists and turns. I was not expecting same.

[Jenna Fischer]

I mean, we do some real sharing.

[Angela Kinsey]

We do. And some real laughing.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, listen, before we get to our amazing interview with Bobby Lee, we do have a fan chitchat question. This is from Brianna R. In St. Michaels, Maryland, who said, hello, office ladies. My husband and I are considering quitting our day jobs and opening our own business. I'm a little nervous about mixing my home life with my work life. Sometimes it's Nice to have a separate space away from your significant other. And while I love my husband to pieces, I worry a little bit about us working together and being together all the time and then also being mom and dad. Since you have both worked with your husbands professionally, I wondered if you would be willing to share a little about how that worked for you. P.S. and I loved this. I couldn't figure out how to upload an audio file, but I hope you will still pick this question. I hope you. You won't find it too personal to share. Love the podcast.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, Briana, I wouldn't know how to do the audio file either, so no worries there. This was such a thoughtful question.

[Sam]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

I mean, first of all, it's a big thing to just pivot in life and start your own business. Clearly, you have some day job, and you're like, I'm going to do a different thing, but then also to take that on with your significant other.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

You know, this is gonna be what you guys are doing. And I can relate, Angela, as I'm sure you can.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. I mean, we've both been in business with our husbands.

[Jenna Fischer]

We have. I mean, it's how I met and fell in love with my husband was doing a film, and since then, we did Ashland Avenue, the play, and now Nimrods. I love working with my husband. We work great together. He's one of my favorite people to create with. I admire him and respect him as an artist, and he feels the same. And I think if you have that mutual respect with your partner, then I think you can be in business together.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, I agree. And I also think something that works well for Josh and I, which I also think works well with me and you, Jenna, is that we both have different things we're good at. And I'm so thankful for that, because when Josh and I did all of the baking stuff and our YouTube baking show, he's just so great at baking and cooking and the recipes and curating them. And I'm sort of like color commentary, you know, and the two of us each bring our own thing. And I so appreciate what he brought, and he was appreciative of what I brought, so it was easy to work together because of that.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, I'm glad you brought up us, Angela, because I thought of us going into business together as best friends when I saw Briana's question. Because I would say that the one thing, and this is true when I'm doing a project, Lee, and it's true with our best friendship, is that the one pitfall to being in business with your significant other or best friend is where suddenly you forget to have the other conversations.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes. That is so true.

[Jenna Fischer]

Because you're only talking about work.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. And you want to make sure you're still a couple and you still have that. All the things that make you a couple, you know, not business partner. And so when we were really in the middle of our cookbook and all of our conversations were about the cookbook, I remember us being like both at the same time. Like, we need to go away for the weekend. We need to just go stay at a little bed and breakfast and go for a hike and go on a date night and just not talk work, you know, because that's what feeds the partnership, is everything you do outside of the business is what makes you want to do the business together.

[Jenna Fischer]

Does that make sense? Yes. Because we do that as best friends. And you're really good at that. Angela. You'll say, I want to have a conversation and we are not allowed to talk about work. Like period best friends stories only. Domestic life stories only.

[Angela Kinsey]

You said it to me just this morning. Because we trade messages every day. You guys know that, right? We leave each other voice notes and especially when we're both busy running errands, you know, And I love nothing more to see that I have a voice note from you. But you said this morning because I had left you one. I was like.

[Jenna Fischer]

You were like, is this boring? This is so stupid.

[Angela Kinsey]

This is so boring. This is the lamest message. And you were like, ang, I loved it. It was slice of life.

[Jenna Fischer]

I love slice of life.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, it's important to keep that in the relationship, Briana. So I guess that's our advice is find out what strengths you each have, respect those separate things, learn how to work with them, and then also still make time for each other as husband and wife.

[Jenna Fischer]

I think that's great advice. I mean, I don't know what it is you're planning to do, but if you do take that leap, I wish you all the success.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. Just all the good things coming your way.

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We already started, right?

[Angela Kinsey]

You're recording.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, we're in. Can I do my own self intro or do you want to do it?

[Jenna Fischer]

Do you want to do it?

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, yeah. I'm a comedian, sometimes actor. And Bobby Lee.

[Angela Kinsey]

Hi, Bobby.

[Bobby Lee]

Bobby Lee. Yeah. Yeah. And how we know each other is we did a sitcom together.

[Jenna Fischer]

Splitting up together.

[Bobby Lee]

Splitting up together. And I want to apologize. I don't know if I ever apologized to you for not showing up that morning.

[Jenna Fischer]

Which morning did you not show up?

[Bobby Lee]

Remember that one morning that I slept in?

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh my God. I do now.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah. So I woke up. Angela?

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah? What was your. Wait, can I ask what your call time was?

[Bobby Lee]

Like six in the morning?

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay, so you had an early call time.

[Bobby Lee]

So it's now 10:30.

[Angela Kinsey]

Uh.

[Bobby Lee]

Oh, okay. And I'm in my house.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Sleeping.

[Jenna Fischer]

I remember. Did someone come knock on your door?

[Bobby Lee]

They entered my room. My house.

[Jenna Fischer]

Came into your house?

[Bobby Lee]

Yes.

[Jenna Fischer]

That's what I thought.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah. And then I felt somebody, like, roaming around the living room.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, that's creepy.

[Bobby Lee]

It's creepy. Yeah. And I come out, and I realize as soon as I see the person that. What time is it? And the panic of it.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, no.

[Jenna Fischer]

Who did they send?

[Bobby Lee]

Like a PA or something? Yeah, like a PA or something.

[Jenna Fischer]

I remember the conversation on set.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

It was like.

[Bobby Lee]

So they shot your coverage first.

[Jenna Fischer]

Was it a scene with me?

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, it was you. You were waiting. You were doing all your coverage.

[Jenna Fischer]

I was, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

And I came in with my pajamas. I was freaking out. I was freaking out.

[Angela Kinsey]

That kind of panic is just right to your core.

[Bobby Lee]

Has that ever happened to you?

[Angela Kinsey]

I mean, I've woken up late. Actually, the time it happened to me, stakes were a little bit lower because it was when I was an operator at 1-800-DENTIST, and I had that 6am shift, and I overslept.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah. How old were you?

[Angela Kinsey]

In my 20s. Like, around probably 26. And the guy called me, who was managing the call center, and I woke up out of this dead sleep, and my home phone rang, and I was like, hello? And he was like, angela, you are two hours late for your shift. And I was like, yeah, I'm gonna go back to sleep.

[Jenna Fischer]

You wouldn't.

[Bobby Lee]

You got fired.

[Angela Kinsey]

No, you would think I did not get fired. I was like, okay, I'm coming.

[Bobby Lee]

What's an operator?

[Angela Kinsey]

An operator at 1-800-DOMENT.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah. So I call, ring, ring, 1-800-DOMENT.

[Angela Kinsey]

This is Angela. Do you need a checkup and cleaning today, or do you have a specific dental problem?

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, all my teeth hurt.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay, well, you know what? We're gonna get you in to see someone that can help you with that.

[Bobby Lee]

Oh, so that's what you do?

[Angela Kinsey]

Do you have a PPO or an hmo?

[Bobby Lee]

We'll keep going. We're gonna keep going.

[Jenna Fischer]

Cash.

[Bobby Lee]

I'm gonna pay cash.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, okay.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, I'm gonna pay cash.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay, well, there's several dentists who will take you if you're paying cash. Yeah, yeah, but. So I overslept. And then he told me, you overslept? And then I was like, yes, I did.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

And then I did get up and go in, but I was like, I'm just a little bit more.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, you. Yeah, go ahead.

[Jenna Fischer]

What happened when you got to set? What I remember is us going from being kind of, like, annoyed, like, ugh. He's Late. But you were not late. You weren't a late person. You generally were very punctual and you knew your.

[Bobby Lee]

Yes.

[Jenna Fischer]

Right.

[Angela Kinsey]

So you were very punctual today.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, I'm punctual.

[Jenna Fischer]

You were 10 minutes early.

[Bobby Lee]

I'm a punctual person.

[Jenna Fischer]

This is what I mean. So, like, we're on set, and it's like, by 6:30, we actually are worried. Like, we've moved.

[Sam]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

And now it's 10:30.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

And we're like, he.

[Bobby Lee]

I could have died.

[Jenna Fischer]

We were concerned.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

And so there was, like, this great relief when the PA was like, he's okay. He's coming. He just overslept. We were like, ugh. Yeah, we were, like, worried for it.

[Bobby Lee]

But what was scary is, at the end of the night, what happened? The showrunner came up to me.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, did you get, like, a talking to?

[Bobby Lee]

And she just. She walked this way, and I was sitting down.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

And she put her hand on my shoulder.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

And she goes, don't ever do that again.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, my gosh.

[Bobby Lee]

And I was scared.

[Angela Kinsey]

I would have been scared.

[Bobby Lee]

Were you scared?

[Angela Kinsey]

I would have been scared.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

I want to talk about something else from splitting up together.

[Bobby Lee]

Okay, go ahead.

[Jenna Fischer]

You talked about this time. You were late. Okay, should we talk about.

[Bobby Lee]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

[Jenna Fischer]

Should we discuss.

[Bobby Lee]

No, because I'll tell you why. Why? I think I know what you're getting at.

[Jenna Fischer]

You've talked about it on your podcast.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah. It's fine.

[Jenna Fischer]

So now you're here.

[Bobby Lee]

Okay. What you're saying. Can it. May I say it or no?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. You already have talked about it, and I just wanted to know.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, but not in front of you. Yeah. Yeah. I don't want to talk about it with you.

[Angela Kinsey]

Too late. She's been tagged in all the real.

[Bobby Lee]

Okay, so here's the thing. You know, I don't know if people know about shooting things, but there's coverage. Is that what you're talking about, like, on tv?

[Jenna Fischer]

I'm talking about the phone incident.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah. So it's on you, the camera. Right. And I'm doing lines with. Yeah, go ahead, Angela.

[Angela Kinsey]

So let's set it up. We're on the set of ABC splitting up together.

[Jenna Fischer]

I'll set the scene for you. It's like the Christmas episode, if I remember correctly. We're, like, dressed in, like, Christmas onesies. It's a big group scene. Everyone's in it. Like, all the kids are in it. You're in it. Oliver's in it. Lindsay, Diane. Everybody's in this, right? Am I Remembering the right scene.

[Bobby Lee]

Yes.

[Jenna Fischer]

And it's in the living room. There's a Christmas tree.

[Bobby Lee]

Yes.

[Jenna Fischer]

And I have to stand up in front of the tree and face all of you guys and give this, like, kind of, like, emotional.

[Bobby Lee]

And you did a great job speech.

[Jenna Fischer]

Like, I had to well up with tears a little bit, then hold them back. It was like, a whole thing, right?

[Bobby Lee]

Yep.

[Jenna Fischer]

So there's one camera. We do your coverage where the camera's on. All of y' all getting your lines.

[Bobby Lee]

Yes.

[Jenna Fischer]

And I'm off camera and I'm giving my speech.

[Bobby Lee]

Yes. Very good job.

[Jenna Fischer]

Great. Camera comes around. Now it's shooting me.

[Bobby Lee]

Yes.

[Jenna Fischer]

And you guys are all off camera.

[Bobby Lee]

Sure.

[Jenna Fischer]

But you're still there. Cause you have lines that you have to say to me while I'm giving my speech. You were memorized. You were. And on time.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah. Do I have to lock eyes with you?

[Jenna Fischer]

What do you think?

[Bobby Lee]

No, you don't want. No, No, I don't think.

[Angela Kinsey]

What?

[Bobby Lee]

I don't think so here. Because you're a professional actor. No, just stop. I'm sorry for even saying that. This is your podcast. You can keep going if you want.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, I'm just gonna say I wanna paint a picture for people. So time for my coverage. And I'm going through the scene. Take one. I'm up there. I'm, like, scanning the room. Everyone's looking at me.

[Bobby Lee]

Sure.

[Jenna Fischer]

Everyone crosses. The children, all the people, they're all looking me in the eyes, giving me my lines that they have to say. And then I get to you, Bobby.

[Bobby Lee]

Yes.

[Jenna Fischer]

And you are looking down like, kind of playing Candy Crush into your lap. But I don't know that you just. You're looking down, and I'm like. That's odd.

[Bobby Lee]

No, it's not. I'm at 896 level, and I want to get 897, take 2. Okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

Scans again. I get to you now. I can see you're looking at a phone. And my first thought was, oh, gosh,

[Bobby Lee]

he doesn't know his lines.

[Jenna Fischer]

No, I thought, oh, my gosh, I hope everything's okay. I hope.

[Bobby Lee]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

[Jenna Fischer]

I'll talk like a text.

[Bobby Lee]

Okay. Can I defend myself?

[Jenna Fischer]

Like a text? Like, oh, no, he must have gotten a text.

[Bobby Lee]

Angela, may I?

[Jenna Fischer]

That's, like, super important.

[Bobby Lee]

Okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

Cause why else would you be on your phone in the middle of a taping?

[Bobby Lee]

Okay. It's a group shot.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

It's a wide.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Okay. Maybe they're punching in, but I don't know. But from What I remember it's a wide. So why would you let me focus on Oliver?

[Jenna Fischer]

You have to talk to me. I am looking. And so it's very distracting. Cause I'm like, what's happening with. Is Bobby okay? Has someone contacted him?

[Bobby Lee]

But you were mad.

[Jenna Fischer]

What's happening?

[Bobby Lee]

I remember you being mad.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, yes, by taking Angela back me up. When I realized what I thought is that you were on Instagram. I thought you were scrolling Instagram. And so finally I go, bobby.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

What the actual.

[Bobby Lee]

I apologize, dude. That was bad.

[Jenna Fischer]

What is happening? What is happening?

[Bobby Lee]

Angela backed me up.

[Angela Kinsey]

I don't think I can. Here's the thing.

[Bobby Lee]

You know what sucks?

[Angela Kinsey]

You're a scene partner. Right? So it's like, what? I give you, you give me back.

[Bobby Lee]

So if you and I were doing a scene solo.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

You would get my attention.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Right. But in a group show. Yes, it does. In a group. Sean, come on.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, I think you have to know, too. We did nine years of group scenes. Nine years of conference rooms. Nine years of Steve Carell being up in front of everyone and us just looking at him.

[Bobby Lee]

So Steve would do even in his reverse, 100%.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, I don't see.

[Bobby Lee]

I'm learning.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

There is a learning curve.

[Sam]

This.

[Bobby Lee]

But there is a learning curve. And there's so much to learn.

[Angela Kinsey]

There is a learning curve.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah. But you know what? I was trying to defend myself. I apologize. I still. The reason why I brought it up on my pod is because I remember the shame of it.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, well, you should release yourself of that. I mean, you were forgiven moments after it happened.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah. I wish that Angela took my side every once in a while. Yeah. Anyway, it's comedy. Let's talk about comedy. Let's talk about. You wanna talk about the movie?

[Jenna Fischer]

Let's talk about nimrods. Okay.

[Bobby Lee]

Let's talk about nimrods.

[Jenna Fischer]

Let's talk about nimrods.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

First of all, I have to say one thing.

[Bobby Lee]

You're both great in it.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, well, you're hilarious in it. But Jenna told me, like, from the early days, like, when we did a table read of it, she was like. Lee was like, I want Bobby. And you were like, bobby's gotta be in this. Like, that's how much of an impression you made on her in splitting up together and Lee.

[Jenna Fischer]

No, truly, it's true.

[Angela Kinsey]

I'm giving you a real compliment.

[Sam]

Really?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. Yes.

[Bobby Lee]

Playing Candy Crush.

[Angela Kinsey]

No, Angela, you are forgiven for that.

[Bobby Lee]

Okay?

[Angela Kinsey]

That is behind you.

[Bobby Lee]

All right? Now it is.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes.

[Bobby Lee]

But now we also I've been thinking about it since.

[Jenna Fischer]

Clearly, I wasn't holding anything against you because.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, but I didn't want to bring it up on set.

[Jenna Fischer]

I mean.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah. Hey, I apologize for.

[Angela Kinsey]

No, you know what you should have done is you should have got out Candy Crush in one take. That would have been so good.

[Bobby Lee]

Did we have a scene?

[Jenna Fischer]

No, we just.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, we didn't have a scene.

[Jenna Fischer]

We're all three in this movie, but

[Bobby Lee]

not just two scenes together. Can I be honest with you?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah. I saw the movie up until I came up on screen.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, and then you. Do you not like to watch yourself?

[Bobby Lee]

I don't. So I stopped watching.

[Jenna Fischer]

It was so funny in it.

[Bobby Lee]

I stopped.

[Jenna Fischer]

Bobby, you have a line in this movie that my kids.

[Bobby Lee]

What is the line?

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, he did. Oh, yeah. When you mock him.

[Jenna Fischer]

When you mock one of the kids.

[Bobby Lee]

Puberty is hard.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, puberty is hard. Did you improvise that?

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, he did.

[Angela Kinsey]

That's really funny.

[Jenna Fischer]

And then you improvise.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, he did.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah. Because he had such a squeaky voice.

[Jenna Fischer]

He did.

[Bobby Lee]

I want to say something about the movie. It feels lived in and real.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, that's a nice compliment. I agree.

[Bobby Lee]

Do you understand what I'm saying?

[Jenna Fischer]

I do.

[Bobby Lee]

Like, when you watch, like, old Spielberg movies, he's good at, like, ET And Close Encounters of the Third Kind.

[Jenna Fischer]

I love that.

[Bobby Lee]

Do you?

[Angela Kinsey]

I do. I do.

[Bobby Lee]

Did you see the movie Close Encounters

[Angela Kinsey]

of the Third Kind?

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

What's it about? Angela. What's about Angela? What's it about, Angela?

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, my God. First of all, it's Richard Dreyfuss. Like, phenomenal performance.

[Bobby Lee]

That's enough.

[Angela Kinsey]

All right?

[Bobby Lee]

That's great. I believe in it.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay.

[Bobby Lee]

But, you know, early Spielberg, the houses lived in, and if it's not lived in, I can't buy into it.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

If it doesn't feel real, you know, sometimes you watch a sitcom or. And everything's so clean, squeaky, and you can tell it's on a stage, and I don't like it. You know, I like it when it's, like, lived in, is what I'm saying.

[Jenna Fischer]

The production designer on Nimrod, Adam Reamer, was a genius.

[Bobby Lee]

Yes.

[Jenna Fischer]

Like the home, the garage, all the sets.

[Bobby Lee]

I've never seen you in a role like this before as a mom. It's crazy. Oh, well, you were a mom on Spleen Trip.

[Jenna Fischer]

I sleep together. Except for that. Except for the situation.

[Bobby Lee]

Except the sitcom.

[Jenna Fischer]

We're on a sitcom together.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

But to your point, it's a different kind of role. And I Mean, I could get personal.

[Bobby Lee]

Oh, my God. Get personal.

[Angela Kinsey]

Should I?

[Bobby Lee]

Yes.

[Jenna Fischer]

So I shot this movie two weeks after I had my port removed. After having gone through all my cancer treatment, I had my last infusion, and I'd been kind of, like, living in my house for, like, a year, you know? Cause I was a little bit on my own personal lockdown, where my life was just about the treatments. And I had my last immunotherapy infusion early in 2025. And then I got my port removed, and two weeks later, I was on set shooting this movie. And from that experience, I had a kind of heaviness in me because a lot had happened to me in that year. I had a literal heaviness. I gained 15 pounds during chemo and during all my treatment, and my hair had just started to grow back. Like, I had just enough for this movie. That's my real hair. People have asked if it was a wig, but I had just enough hair. They kind of, like, brushed it forward. They were brilliant. And it was such a gift to me to take that and put it into this part, this part of this mom who also has a real heaviness to her. She's a widow. She's raising two teen boys on her own. And she's a little bit at the end of her rope, but trying to be kind of optimistic at the same time. I mean, I love this woman. And I don't think this is. That I would have been offered or asked to play had I not gone through everything I went through. Cause I didn't have it in me. I didn't have it in my body. I didn't have it in my toolkit. Like, I just didn't have it. And so, for me, this movie is really, really special because I got to take something hard that happened to me, and I got to put it into art, which is kind of just the best thing ever. And it was really healing for me. So thank you for saying that. It really means a lot.

[Bobby Lee]

I just. I'm sorry. Aw. I remember you telling me on set, and it was devastating.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

I had no idea.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah. I'm so sorry. But you're.

[Jenna Fischer]

I'm in full remission.

[Bobby Lee]

Yes.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. And now it's like. It's good. God, it's weird to say it was a good thing that happened to me, but it was definitely one of those moments in life. It was a before and after. You know, there's like, there was my life before, and now there's my life after and my life after. It's Been transformative.

[Bobby Lee]

I can't. Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

But, I mean, I feel like you must have had before and after with getting sober.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Right.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

I mean, that's a very.

[Bobby Lee]

I think it's different, though. I don't think I was as scared as you might have been. You know, I always thought, you know, I can always get sober or whatever. I mean, that's all he needed to do, is to get sober. Right. But you have no control over what you had, you know, so it must be just terrifying.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

You know, truly, it's really hard to watch someone you love go through something. You don't know how to help them.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

And so. And anything you do to try to help doesn't feel like enough, you know, and so you just try to show up, you know? And so even as you were saying all that, it was so great to watch this movie and have seen you through that and on the other side and getting to create. And I love the character and I love the movie that Lee made. It's really great. I'm excited for people to see it.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, lady, you took me to get my port removed. Because Lee had started shooting the movie. It was a weird thing for us, too. Cause he'd been with me the whole journey. And now his movie gets greenlit in, like, the last two months of my treatment. And he had to be away. And so Angela took me to get my port removed.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Which was amazing because she's the best BFF ever.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. We're family.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

That's amazing.

[Angela Kinsey]

So you take care of each other.

[Bobby Lee]

I don't think I have anyone like that in my life. Maybe my girlfriend.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, I'm sure.

[Angela Kinsey]

Your girlfriend.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, maybe I'm a girlfriend.

[Angela Kinsey]

Your girlfriend, she would take you to lax, right?

[Bobby Lee]

I don't think so, but I think that she would. For port. I don't know. Yeah, but Santino. I don't know. Andrew. Santino. I don't know.

[Jenna Fischer]

I'm not sure. Lee would drive me to lax. He'll see me through cancer treatment, and I'm sure he's dropping me at LAX

[Angela Kinsey]

or picking me up. For people listening, LAX is the worst airport to try to.

[Bobby Lee]

It's the worst. Burbank. S. Burbank.

[Jenna Fischer]

Taking me to Burbank.

[Bobby Lee]

Burbank is fine.

[Jenna Fischer]

All the time.

[Angela Kinsey]

I would say to the Long Beach Airport. I would do that.

[Bobby Lee]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

But lax, man. Wait. Back to Nimrods.

[Bobby Lee]

Yes, of course.

[Angela Kinsey]

Will you tell us how you got the role?

[Bobby Lee]

I got a call from my agent. Goes, they said, you, who are Offered this part and I said yes immediately.

[Angela Kinsey]

There you go.

[Bobby Lee]

Cause I knew Billy from a long time ago, during my mad TV days.

[Jenna Fischer]

Billie Joe Armstrong from Green Day, Producer of this movie.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah. And I used to hang out with him. I run into him, hang out with him. You know, back then, LA was different. Like, I remember going to Baja Fresh and then running into the Strokes. You know what I mean? You just run into people.

[Jenna Fischer]

That's so cool.

[Angela Kinsey]

What was your first neighborhood in la?

[Bobby Lee]

It was North Hollywood, then Silver Lake, then West Hollywood, then Hollywood, and now Studio City. Yeah. So I've been around.

[Angela Kinsey]

Where were you in West Hollywood?

[Bobby Lee]

I lived above the Comedy Store. Paulie owned it.

[Jenna Fischer]

Are you serious?

[Bobby Lee]

Oh, yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

What was that like?

[Bobby Lee]

It was terrible. It was a human nightmare.

[Jenna Fischer]

That seems really difficult.

[Bobby Lee]

I would come home and he'd be on my bed sleeping.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, my gosh.

[Bobby Lee]

Paulie, sure.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, dude.

[Bobby Lee]

I own the house, brah. Bruh. I can sleep wherever I want to sleep. I go. I pay rent, dude. Yeah, I pay rent. But anyway, so I moved out of there because the house is falling off a cliff.

[Angela Kinsey]

They said the Comedy Store. The house.

[Bobby Lee]

No, no. So the house above the Comedy Store, the inspector came in and goes, you could die in here. And then I remember a bunch of comics were like, just buy a house. You can buy a house. So I bought my first house.

[Angela Kinsey]

Nice.

[Bobby Lee]

After that. Yeah. Which is freeing in many ways. It feels grown up.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, it's amazing.

[Bobby Lee]

And back then you could afford it. Now you can't.

[Angela Kinsey]

No, now it's crazy.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, now you can't. But, yeah, now it's crazy.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay, wait. There's one thing I have to tell you. I really want to come see your stage show.

[Bobby Lee]

What do you mean, stage show? Stand up.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes, dude.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, it's just stand up. I have a special coming out on Hulu in November.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay.

[Bobby Lee]

It's my first hour special.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know. It's your first hour special. That's amazing.

[Bobby Lee]

For what company?

[Jenna Fischer]

Hulu.

[Bobby Lee]

Hulu. Okay, good.

[Angela Kinsey]

I was listening. But my sons love you. And they were so tickled that I was meeting you today. They just can't believe that you're in the podcast.

[Sam]

Were they.

[Bobby Lee]

Are they here?

[Angela Kinsey]

No, they're at home.

[Bobby Lee]

Okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

But my nephew.

[Angela Kinsey]

You're a big deal.

[Jenna Fischer]

You met my nephew on the set of Nimrod?

[Bobby Lee]

Yes.

[Jenna Fischer]

He flew out. Cause he wanted to see a couple days of filming. It's cause of you.

[Bobby Lee]

Was I nice to him?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes, very.

[Bobby Lee]

Cause. Cause I'm a nice person.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes, yes, you are, exactly. He was so excited to meet You. And that was so nice of you.

[Bobby Lee]

Stage show.

[Angela Kinsey]

I sometimes get phrases wrong. Just a little bit.

[Jenna Fischer]

I want to brag on you. I'm going to talk about what a nice person you are. I hope this won't be embarrassing to you. I don't think it would be. Okay. So there's a young guy in this movie, Ryan Faust.

[Bobby Lee]

Love him.

[Jenna Fischer]

He plays the drummer in the young punk band.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, I understand.

[Jenna Fischer]

He's so great. I'm letting other people know, uh, oh, this guy. First of all, he's just so good in the movie. He's so funny.

[Bobby Lee]

He's so good in the movie.

[Jenna Fischer]

So good.

[Bobby Lee]

He's so good.

[Jenna Fischer]

And he had to learn to play the drums because he's really playing.

[Bobby Lee]

I think they all had to learn, right?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. Well, Kyler Kaufman already knew how to play guitar, but, yes. Mason Tames had to learn to play guitar, and then Ryan had to learn drums. And he was really dedicated.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah. Cause he's a student of acting.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

He wants to immerse himself into the role and not look fake. And that's what I love about Ryan, is that he's brave and he commits. And I know what the compliment is.

[Jenna Fischer]

You do?

[Bobby Lee]

And I don't think it's a compliment. And I don't think it's me being a nice guy. It's just that I like bravery. And Ryan said to me on set, I want to try stand up. Is that what you're getting at?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. You said you write a set, let's set a date, and I'll let you open for me.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, that's what I said.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

I mean, that's cool.

[Bobby Lee]

And he did it a bunch of times.

[Jenna Fischer]

I know.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah. And he was very good.

[Jenna Fischer]

And that kind of like, mentorship, like, that is so cool. That is so cool.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, I've done that a lot. But it's like, I just love people that are brave and that walk through fear, and I'm willing to hold someone's hand to do that, you know? But, yeah, I'm not one of those guys that are, like, completely jealous or I want people to make it.

[Angela Kinsey]

I love beautiful things because it's in.

[Bobby Lee]

I mean, you know, in order to achieve success, you have to help people achieve the success. I believe.

[Jenna Fischer]

And people probably helped you.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah. Yeah, they did. Yeah. I think the Shore family was very vital. You know, Paulie's mom owned the Comedy Store, and she saw me do open mic, and then she saw me open for her son, and she made me a paid regular, and I moved to la. This is in San Diego. And so it really helped. And a lot of comics helped, you know, and Dice Clay helped in a weird way. You know, people really kind of pulled me up on my sleeves. Is that the term? Or.

[Jenna Fischer]

I don't know. But people took a chance on you.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Right.

[Bobby Lee]

Why? People helped you.

[Jenna Fischer]

No, of course.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, of course.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

And this is the thing. Like, this is. I love that about our industry. When you find those other people who are like that, I believe there's enough room for everyone.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

And if you've got a talent, we've got room for you.

[Bobby Lee]

Yes, I do believe that, too. And it's like, I'll tell you something, I was plagued by jealous jealousy early on in my career. I had to have a moment where I was like, what about me? And then, you know, about a year of that, I was like, this is not who I am. And it's painful to live in that, you know, I have to admit that. You know. But, yeah, I'm completely different now.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. Abundant universe. You kind of come to that. And I think as you get older,

[Bobby Lee]

I think that to survive, you know, in this biz. And also, can I just say this, too? You're adapting to the transitions of show business. Like, for me, it's like I saw the writing on the wall a little bit. I was like, I have to create my own thing. Yeah, right. And so you created this thing. It's your own thing. And it's like you're adapting because it's like, I think that obviously it's transitioning into something else. We don't know really what it is with the emergence of AI and other things, but it's like we're adapting to what it is. So it's. For you to survive this long is amazing.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

You know, you're survivors.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, thanks for saying that. Yeah. You have to be able to adapt, right?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

So what do you want to do next?

[Bobby Lee]

I'm going to retire in three years.

[Jenna Fischer]

Is that true?

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Retire from what?

[Bobby Lee]

Everything.

[Jenna Fischer]

From podcasting, comedy and acting, everything.

[Angela Kinsey]

You're just going to peace out. Where are you going?

[Bobby Lee]

I want to go to Hawaii.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

And just buy little place amazing and just retire and farm.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes.

[Bobby Lee]

But when? I'm never gonna do it, am I?

[Angela Kinsey]

Why not?

[Bobby Lee]

Because I say it. But I don't think I will.

[Angela Kinsey]

This is a beautiful idea.

[Jenna Fischer]

Don't you feel compelled to be artistic and creative, though? Like, where will you take that energy in the Hawaii farming chapter?

[Bobby Lee]

Okay, so here's what I'll do. This Is my plan. Okay.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay.

[Bobby Lee]

I'll still do my own solo podcast in Hawaii, but more ranting and raving about things.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay.

[Bobby Lee]

And then I'll still do local standup in Hawaii.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah. And then I think that'll fill. You know, but it's like.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's like your box.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah. But I think that I've been chasing this since I was 23 years old.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

And it never seems like I made it.

[Jenna Fischer]

You made it.

[Bobby Lee]

I know, but it doesn't feel like it. I know.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay. I want to unpack this. What do you expect making it would feel like?

[Bobby Lee]

Well, can I be honest with you?

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, of course.

[Bobby Lee]

This is the first movie, Nimrods, where I was in the opening credits.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

So thank you for that experience. I've done a lot of movies before, but I was always in the end credits, and 52 names would come down and they would say Bobby Lee, Ken Park. But, like, no one's watching. My point is that I've been in this business for so long. I've been on sitcoms and series regular, so God bless America. But my point is this is that this is the first movie where I was in the opening credits.

[Jenna Fischer]

The movie poster, too.

[Bobby Lee]

I know. My point, though, being that I'm grateful for what I've had, But it's like this chasing thing. I think I'm done with.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, that's a real thing to listen to. I'm with you. I feel tired of just chasing, chasing. I don't want to be a hamster on the wheel. I've been telling Jenna that. And I'm happy. And I think everything I've done is enough for me. Really.

[Bobby Lee]

Happiness is a warm yes, it is. I don't know why I did this. I'm sorry.

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

Can you tell us more about MADtv? What was that like?

[Bobby Lee]

But you understand when I was on Man TV I'd never taken an acting class. I've never been on tv. I didn't know what a jib camera was or a mark was or any of that. So you're learning how to do tv? I was an open micr, like, doing just, like, little rooms and, like, empty rooms. No one knew who I was. And then all of a sudden, I auditioned. It was a cattle call, pretty much. And then it came down to me and Taran Killam.

[Jenna Fischer]

That's crazy.

[Angela Kinsey]

Wow.

[Bobby Lee]

And they hired both of us. He was on MADtv before he was on SNL. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then all of a sudden, I'm on a show and I don't know how to do it. Like, I just didn't know how to do it.

[Angela Kinsey]

And how old were you?

[Bobby Lee]

I was 30.

[Angela Kinsey]

30? Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

I was 30 when I booked the Office.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah. And I was like, how do you do this? You know, I did some commercials, but it's like, those are different.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

Because, you know, sometimes when you're a commercial, it's like you'll see somebody running by you. You just do a facial expression. Those I can do. Right. But it's like, you know, anything with, like, substantial lines, you know, it would be nerve wracking for me because back then, also, there was no teleprompter.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

So if I would play Connie Chung and I had to do a monologue, it was literally, learn the whole thing. Learn the whole thing.

[Jenna Fischer]

Is that right?

[Bobby Lee]

Oh, yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

Wow.

[Jenna Fischer]

Wow.

[Bobby Lee]

And you're looking in the camera and you're like, you have to memorize a page worth of things. And I remember at one time, one of the producers came up to me and she held my hands and she said, just breathe, Goose. Front of a live audience, too. I don't know. I never did. You know, in high school, I maybe did some plays, but, you know, I was in the Sound of Music. I played Kirk, whatever, or Kurt, whatever his name is, but I played Huckleberry Finn. Yeah. Why are you laughing?

[Jenna Fischer]

I don't know. I just.

[Bobby Lee]

Can I just say something? Go back. And so. So when Fraulein Maria calls us for the first time coming down the stair. I was in high school, and I was the only Korean kid in the cast. And every time the audience would see me, the audience would laugh.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, no, that's terrible.

[Bobby Lee]

And then I asked the director of, you know, you're in high school. You're like, can you change the lines? They go, what do you mean? I go, just to justify why I'm there. So, like, you're like, I'm Kirk, I'm adopted or something.

[Angela Kinsey]

You're like, so long farewell. And B, to say goodnight. Yes, I'm Kirk. I'm adopted.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, something like that. Right. It's like even playing Huckleberry Finn, it's like we have to justify why I'm Korean in the south in this time period.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

That's where things have changed, I feel like. Yeah, yeah. For our kids.

[Bobby Lee]

I couldn't even believe I even got those roles, you know, like. Anyway, so I was scared, but I'm fine now. Yeah. Can I tell you what they did to me at MADtv?

[Jenna Fischer]

What?

[Angela Kinsey]

What?

[Bobby Lee]

They made a compilation of my bad table reads.

[Jenna Fischer]

Do you do bad table reads?

[Bobby Lee]

I do.

[Jenna Fischer]

You're not good at a table read.

[Bobby Lee]

I hate them.

[Angela Kinsey]

Table reads are intimidating, though. They are.

[Bobby Lee]

I think you kill it.

[Angela Kinsey]

No, I don't. She does.

[Bobby Lee]

She does.

[Jenna Fischer]

She'll get, like a guest spot on a show and she'll do the table read and then they'll give her more lines the next day. Cause she crushed the table read.

[Sam]

Wow.

[Jenna Fischer]

That's Angela Kinsey.

[Bobby Lee]

Wow.

[Jenna Fischer]

She's always. No, it's true, lady. They're always like, expand. You're like, oh, we wrote you another whole scene.

[Bobby Lee]

They take scenes away from men.

[Jenna Fischer]

The table.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

This is the truth.

[Bobby Lee]

I've literally had people go, we're not doing that scene. And you go, oh, why? But I know why. Cause I up the scene before. It's hard when you're guest starring.

[Angela Kinsey]

It is guest starring.

[Bobby Lee]

Cause people have been working together for maybe sometimes years.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

And you're like a new person. And sometimes they're not even that nice to you.

[Angela Kinsey]

Here's the thing. I'm okay at a table read, but I'm horrible at the chit chat. Small talk once we're on set.

[Jenna Fischer]

When you're a guest star.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. Because I assume, like, if someone's like, oh, how are you? How was your day? Jenna knows. I'll just say, well, here's the thing. I think a rat is eating the inside of my car.

[Jenna Fischer]

That's true.

[Angela Kinsey]

But I will tell this person who's just like an ad, who just is wanting to, like, walk right past me,

[Bobby Lee]

but it's a funny thing to say,

[Angela Kinsey]

but it's just what's happening. Do you know what I mean?

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, sometimes. Yeah. And so then those are inside thoughts.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes. And then I watch the person's eyes glaze over of like, oh, my God.

[Bobby Lee]

I told Sarah Jessica Parker had foot fungi.

[Angela Kinsey]

Did you really?

[Bobby Lee]

You were sitting there in. She was doing crosswords. Or Something as they do.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, yes. You were so good on that show.

[Bobby Lee]

No, I wasn't.

[Jenna Fischer]

And just like that.

[Bobby Lee]

I don't think I was, but thank you.

[Jenna Fischer]

Stop it.

[Bobby Lee]

But yeah, I remember, like, doing that.

[Jenna Fischer]

Making conversation.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah. But it was like my. Like, I'm around a lot of comedians, you know, and she was super nice. I love her, of course.

[Sam]

You know what I mean?

[Bobby Lee]

But I didn't know what to bring up.

[Jenna Fischer]

Can I tell you my so badge story?

[Bobby Lee]

Tell me.

[Jenna Fischer]

Being a co star, not even a guest star, not a recurring star.

[Bobby Lee]

What's the difference?

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay, you were recurring on. And just like that, you were in several episodes, but not every episode. You're in many episodes, though. That's recurring. That's great. You're, like, kind of part of the cast.

[Bobby Lee]

What's guest starring?

[Jenna Fischer]

Guest star is when you have, like, one episode.

[Angela Kinsey]

One week. One week. One week. One whole week.

[Jenna Fischer]

You probably have multiple scenes. You have a significant. Like, some part of the story involves you. And then co star is usually also referred to as, like, five and under. You have five or less lines. Okay, but I had a co star role on a comedy. I had five or less lines. And it was on Post Office. Pre Office.

[Bobby Lee]

Oh, well, then that's.

[Jenna Fischer]

It was Spin City. The Charlie Sheen years. So I'm in this scene. So it's Charlie Sheen, Heather Locklear, Scott Wolf, and Vanessa Marcille. So all of these people are like household names. And I am hired to play their waitress. But I'm new. This is my first speaking role on a television show.

[Bobby Lee]

You were nervous.

[Jenna Fischer]

I was in hair and makeup with Heather Locklear. She was so nice to me. And then we get on set and we rehearse, but now we're waiting for notes, and the four of them start talking and, oh, my God, they're talking about, like, all these tabloid stories, and they know if something's true or not true.

[Angela Kinsey]

They're gossiping.

[Jenna Fischer]

They're gossiping.

[Bobby Lee]

And you're listening in.

[Jenna Fischer]

I'm listening. But I don't know where I'm supposed to be. Like, am I part of this group or am I not part of this group?

[Bobby Lee]

You're not.

[Jenna Fischer]

And I did. And so I. Before I knew because she was so nice to me in the trailer.

[Bobby Lee]

Heather Locklear.

[Jenna Fischer]

I think I'm part of the group.

[Angela Kinsey]

You think you're a pal.

[Bobby Lee]

How do you. What are the signs that you're a part of the group? Cause she was nice to you.

[Jenna Fischer]

Cause she was nice to me in hair and makeup. And we're standing there And I made.

[Bobby Lee]

When you say nice, she said, hello.

[Jenna Fischer]

She also asked if I wanted some cheese.

[Bobby Lee]

Oh, that's good. That's really nice.

[Jenna Fischer]

She's like, I want some bff. Do we want.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah, bff. Okay.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Someone came in and said, does anybody to want. She's like, oh, my God. Could we get, like, some cheese and crackers and stuff? She's like, do you want some cheese and crackers? If you share them.

[Bobby Lee]

What a sweetheart, right?

[Jenna Fischer]

And I'm like, I'll take cheese and crackers. Sure. No. So anyway, I can't move. I'm not allowed to leave the set. I have to stand next to the table while we're waiting for our notes. And they're talking, and I think I'm in the conversation, and so I chime in.

[Bobby Lee]

Oh, no. Oh, no. Instinctually, no.

[Jenna Fischer]

Do you feel it?

[Bobby Lee]

I feel it right now. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Jenna Fischer]

Bobby, you know how you're still carrying around the phone incident from splitting up together? I carry around my chime in.

[Sam]

Oh, yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

On Spin City.

[Sam]

Wow.

[Jenna Fischer]

I still in my body.

[Angela Kinsey]

Can you tell me what the reaction was like?

[Jenna Fischer]

Do you remember crickets? It was crickets. It was silence. It was silence. And then Heather Locklear broke the silence with like, a, like, gesture. Like a kind of like, aha. You know, like, horrible.

[Bobby Lee]

But imagine them when you got the office, well, what? And then they look back and they went, you know what? Hey, we should have been nicer to her.

[Jenna Fischer]

No, they were. It's not that they were.

[Bobby Lee]

We should have laughed.

[Jenna Fischer]

It's not that they were unkind.

[Bobby Lee]

What'd you say?

[Jenna Fischer]

I don't remember. I just chimed in on the conversation, and I realized it was just a record scratch. But then the very next year, I booked a pilot opposite Scott Wolfe.

[Bobby Lee]

Wow.

[Angela Kinsey]

Tell him the name of the pilot.

[Jenna Fischer]

This is amazing Rubbing Charlie. That's a real touchstone.

[Bobby Lee]

That's true.

[Angela Kinsey]

Who bounced that around is Scott Wolfe.

[Bobby Lee]

Charlie.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. I rubbed him. Really? He was a masseuse.

[Bobby Lee]

Wow.

[Jenna Fischer]

And it was like he was a successful doctor.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

And he would come to see me as his masseuse.

[Angela Kinsey]

What is this show?

[Bobby Lee]

What is that show?

[Jenna Fischer]

And I was kind of like therapy for him, but I was the female lead. I did not remind Scott Wolf that I had been on Spin 6 because I wanted him to just forget.

[Bobby Lee]

But you know why you shouldn't bring it? I think you're in sixes.

[Sam]

Right.

[Bobby Lee]

Because. And I'm gonna say this is that you perceived it that way.

[Sam]

Ooh.

[Angela Kinsey]

You just got deep, Bobby.

[Bobby Lee]

Because we perceive things, like, personally, and we ruminate about things.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

And it might not even be true to them.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, that's so good.

[Bobby Lee]

So I do that a lot. Like, I'll bring it up, something up, and I'll go, I was so embarrassing. They're like, we don't even remember that. What are you talking about?

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

And I'm like, oh. And then you kind of go, oh, it's in my mind.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

And you lay in bed and you think about it and you replay it over and over again. But it's like, you know, I'm sure none of them even remember you being in the show.

[Jenna Fischer]

That's what I mean. Like, he didn't see me on day one of our pilot and be like, oh, my gosh, the waitress who said that weird thing. He didn't say anything. Just, like, until you reminded me. I did not remember about that time. You didn't show up to set because you overslept. Like, I had.

[Bobby Lee]

Yeah. But I've been thinking about that every day since.

[Angela Kinsey]

But now you can let it go.

[Bobby Lee]

I'm gonna let it go now.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Bobby Lee]

All right. So that was good podcast.

[Jenna Fischer]

Thank you for coming on October. Of course.

[Bobby Lee]

Dude, I wanna say watch Nimrods. It comes out. What's the date?

[Jenna Fischer]

August 14th.

[Bobby Lee]

August 14th.

[Jenna Fischer]

In theaters.

[Bobby Lee]

In theaters.

[Angela Kinsey]

Bobby plays Otis. He's hilarious.

[Bobby Lee]

I play Otis, and then, you know, it's really good to be here. Aww. We could do this for 10 hours.

[Angela Kinsey]

I think we could.

[Jenna Fischer]

We're a good team, don't you think?

[Bobby Lee]

We could go on forever.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

I think we're good together.

[Bobby Lee]

I do, too.

[Jenna Fischer]

I do.

[Angela Kinsey]

My gosh, Bobby is just so fun and so great to talk to. We talked about things I could never have anticipated.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. No, that's the great thing about Bobby is he's really, really funny. Obviously. So, you know, you're just gonna have a fun time when you're with him, but he isn't afraid to get serious. Oh, but before we go, Sam, I want to share that you are also in Nimrods.

[Sam]

Yes. There's a big crowd scene at the end that I am in. If you have an eagle eye, you should be able to spot me, my friend Steve and my friend Samantha.

[Angela Kinsey]

You're at the New Year's Eve big concert.

[Sam]

Yes. I just wanted to say I don't think we talked about that moment since then. I grew up in a real small town in Wisconsin. I still have a lot of friends and family back there. They often think my life is a lot more exciting Than it is due to this podcast and my social media and stuff like that. That was one of those moments. I remember leaving being like, I can feast on this for months. Like, this is why I left my small town in Wisconsin. Yeah. That was so cool. Thank you for having me.

[Jenna Fischer]

I mean, it was really neat. And when you got there, everybody had to put their phones in, like, a little pouch. Nobody was allowed to have their phone. But I sneaked pictures of you and your friends. That's right, Sam.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's good to know the director's wife. Ye.

[Sam]

This is the second cool thing. You invited me to the table read

[Angela Kinsey]

a long time ago.

[Sam]

A long time ago at the Palladium.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, my gosh.

[Sam]

This is my second time being up close in front with Green Day, thanks to you.

[Jenna Fischer]

And what a full circle moment that you were at the very first table read of this movie when it was in development.

[Angela Kinsey]

And I read multiple characters. So did you, Jenna? Cause Leigh just needed to hear it out loud.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. But Green Day was there.

[Sam]

That's right. Billie Joe sat next to me. Also, did you mention earlier, this is the Sleepy. Sleepy Copenhagen. Sleepy.

[Angela Kinsey]

Mm.

[Sam]

That is bananas.

[Jenna Fischer]

Bananas.

[Sam]

That is d. That is a deep.

[Jenna Fischer]

I hope I'm not gonna get in trouble.

[Sam]

No, you. I don't think you will.

[Jenna Fischer]

Sleepy makes an appearance.

[Sam]

That is insane.

[Angela Kinsey]

Do you need to ask and make sure?

[Jenna Fischer]

I mean, a few people have mentioned it when they have written about the movie. So I think at this point, it's coming out on Friday. Yeah.

[Sam]

That is a deep cut, by the way.

[Jenna Fischer]

It's a deep cut.

[Sam]

That's awesome.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, so cool. Everybody go see the movie and let's all look for Sam and Wow. Thank you, Bobby Lee, for joining us in the studio today.

[Jenna Fischer]

He's wonderful. I love him so much. Everyone, please remember he has his comedy special coming out in November on Hulu, and be sure to check him out on his two podcasts, Bad Friends and Tiger Belly.

[Angela Kinsey]

They're very funny, and you can find them on YouTube and wherever you listen to your podcast and check all three of us out in the movie nimrods coming out August 14th.

[Jenna Fischer]

Everyone, it is a really, really fun movie to see in a group in the theaters.

[Angela Kinsey]

So grab your pals. We'll be there and we hope you enjoy it.

[Jenna Fischer]

All right, we'll see you next week.

[Angela Kinsey]

See you then.

[Jenna Fischer]

Thank you for listening to Office Ladies.

[Angela Kinsey]

Office Ladies. Office Ladies is a presentation of Odyssey and is produced by Jenna Fisher and Angela Kinsey.

[Jenna Fischer]

Our senior producer is Matt Beagle and our audio engineer is Sam Kiefer.

[Angela Kinsey]

Odyssey's executive producer is Leah Reese.

[Jenna Fischer]

Dennis Office Ladies was mixed and mastered by Bill Schultz.

[Angela Kinsey]

Our theme song is Rubber Tree by Creed Bratt.

[Bobby Lee]

Sam.