Fan Convention & Stage Door

Summary

Office Ladies Podcast Summary

Episode: Fan Convention & Stage Door
Hosts: Jenna Fischer & Angela Kinsey
Release Date: December 3, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode of Office Ladies is dedicated to fan appreciation, recapping Jenna and Angela’s joyful experiences connecting with fans at The Office Fan Convention in New Jersey and the stage door of Jenna’s play “Ashland Avenue” in Chicago. With producer Cassie Jerkins in the studio, the hosts share stories, fan interviews, and heartfelt community moments, celebrating the unique culture of Office fandom.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. Fan Appreciation & Jeopardy! Shoutout

• Angela starts with a special shoutout to Katie Ruskas, an Office Ladies fan who works as a production assistant at Jeopardy! (04:00)
  • Office Ladies was recently featured as a question on Jeopardy!, making both hosts feel like they've “made it big time.”
  • Notably, Katie got her dad, Chris, to listen and now they enjoy the podcast together.
  • Quote (Angela, 04:10): “Katie is such a delight. So the episode already came out?”
  • The Jeopardy! moment clip features their podcast as trivia: “A podcast episode from Office Ladies debated whether or not this character in HR from The Office was the Scranton Strangler.” – Who is Toby?

2. The Office Fan Convention (New Jersey) Highlights

• Angela attended with Cassie; Jenna couldn’t go due to rehearsals in Chicago (05:21)

  • Huge turnout: over 7,000 fans on Saturday (11:38).
  • Positive energy and unique culture: only Office cast and fans, with tons of “really wonderful engagement.”
  • Fans cosplaying as Office characters, getting Office-themed tattoos (even at the convention!), and sharing stories of what the show means to them.

• Behind-the-Booth Antics

  • Angela’s booth was next to Rainn Wilson’s, who kept peeking through their curtain and joking: “You talk too much. Speed it up.” (09:13)

• Office Tattoos

  • Permanent Office tattoos were a huge theme—Angela loved seeing a “slow train to Philly” tattoo (12:47), and there are whole sleeves of Office-themed ink (13:12).
  • Quote (Angela, 12:58): “I mean, I find it so fascinating. People love the show that much, they get a tattoo.”

• Cosplay Culture

  • Lots of cosplayers, including a Dwight who set up a replica Schrute desk, and best men dressed as Mose and Michael Scott for a wedding ceremony at the convention.
  • Angela: “For those of you that haven't been to a convention, …you can meet people in the movies. And there's all kinds of great merch. …But this one was specifically just for the office fans… The energy was so profoundly positive and… wonderful.” (09:44)

3. A Real Office-Themed Wedding

• Ryan (a Dwight cosplayer) and Cora (Angela Martin) got married at the con, officiated by Andy Buckley (David Wallace)!
  • Ryan proposed in front of Weird Al, then coordinated with Buckley for the event. (23:04)
  • Wedding included a makeshift “coffin” (Dwight style) and best men in Office cosplay (24:31).
  • Quote (Ryan, 23:54): “He got very, very excited about it. Like, he might be as excited about it as we are and went and got himself ordained.”

4. Stage Door Stories: Ashland Avenue (Chicago)

• Jenna met fans after nearly every show (37 out of 39 performances), connecting with Office Ladies listeners.
  • On vocal rest days, her silence meant fans whispered or mimed with her (07:34).
  • Fans traveled solo from as far as Singapore, Brazil, and Argentina. Notably, Office Ladies fans and Facebook Culture Club groups would meet up to support her (38:57).
  • Quote (Jenna, 06:01): “If someone said lady, I knew they listened to Office Ladies.”
  • Stories included a woman cosplaying as Pam at the theater, another gifting gooey butter cake, and someone wearing the Office Ladies apron (16:35).

5. Fan Interviews & Community Reflections

• Cassie gathered fan soundbites:

  • Betty Jean from Connecticut: “Levity… Now I literally am not allowed to say that’s what she said before.” (14:44)
  • Julia: “The office is home. And I feel most like myself when I'm listening to the podcast on my Wednesday walk.” (15:49)
  • Multiple families coming together, some with Office tattoos, some who watch The Office as a bedtime tradition (29:44, 32:09).
  • Anderson: “I did not like the Office… and then I caught an episode or two and I was like, dang, this is actually really funny. …I bawled my eyes out, dog. I cried so bad. It was such an amazing finale.” (32:48)

• International reach: Adam from England traveled for the convention, appreciating the “second drinks” revisits for in-order podcast content (36:20).

6. Favorite Episodes & Cringe Moments

• Cassie finds “Stress Relief” (Dwight’s fire drill) is the fan favorite—more than “Dinner Party” or “Booze Cruise” (34:15).
• Scott’s Tots: the eternal debate—watch or skip?
  • A spectrum of answers ranges from “always watch” to “always skip” and many “depends on the mood” (60:46-61:57).
  • Quote (Jim McDermott, 62:15): “You can't be a fan and skip anything. That's just how it is.”

7. Crew Stories & Behind-the-Scenes Details

• Jim McDermott, set decorator, shares how his team built detailed sets, filled fake paper boxes with sandbags for weight, and repurposed Scranton local goods as set dressing (46:32-49:49).
  • Reveals the Dunder Mifflin office sets had live plants, and many props were real.
  • Fun tidbit: Oscar’s apartment had an unused bathroom set, which Jenna relates to similarly built unused bathrooms in her stage work (50:50).

8. Gifts, Community & Volunteer Appreciation

• Fans shared cards, hand-made goods, sweatshirts, keychains, dolls, and even German chocolates.
• Volunteers like Betty Jean discuss the joy and unpredictable nature of helping run big Office events (58:28-59:59).
  • Quote (Betty Jean, 59:37): "Fans pouring their heart out to the cast and crew… This is the stuff I live for. And now being able to pay it forward for other fans and help create the space, it's amazing."

9. The Office Ladies Community & Ongoing Engagement

• The Office Ladies Facebook fan page, community trips, and lasting friendships are all highlighted.
• Angela and Jenna express deep gratitude for the listeners and fans, ending with plans for a holiday merch box giveaway (63:30).

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Memorable Quotes & Notable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|------------|-------| | 04:10 | Angela | “Katie is such a delight..." | | 09:13 | Angela | "Rainn Wilson... kept opening the curtain and yelling things at me, like, you talk too much. Speed it up." | | 12:58 | Angela | "People love the show that much, they get a tattoo." | | 23:54 | Ryan | "He got very, very excited about it... went and got himself ordained." | | 32:48 | Anderson | "I bawled my eyes out, dog. I cried so bad. It was such an amazing finale.” | | 61:06 | Cassie | “Scott's Tots. Do you watch it or skip it?” (compilation follows) | | 59:37 | Betty Jean | "Fans pouring their heart out to the cast and crew… This is the stuff I live for." | | 50:09 | Jim McDermott | "So all those boxes in the warehouse set were empty? Yeah. When they had to go through some and load up, we put little sandbags in them full of sand." | | 38:57 | Jenna | “...people would literally have their luggage with them... Someone told me they traveled solo from Singapore.” | | 63:30 | Angela | "We appreciate you all so much and we thought it'd be really fun to start doing some merch giveaways..." |

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Timestamps of Major Segments

• Jeopardy! Shoutout – 03:31-04:51
• Convention Introduction – 05:21-11:50
• Cosplay & Tattoo Stories – 11:50-13:32
• Fan Interview Clips – 14:04-16:43
• Stage Door Experiences – 05:50, 16:20, 38:57
• Convention Marriage – 22:14-24:31
• Fan Families' Stories – 29:33-32:01
• International Fans – 36:09-36:47
• Set Decorator Interview (Jim McDermott) – 46:32-50:09
• Gifts and Fan Correspondence – 52:11-57:29
• Volunteer Perspective (Betty Jean) – 58:28-59:59
• Scott’s Tots: Watch or Skip? – 60:44-62:23
• Closing & Merch Giveaway Announcement – 62:46-64:04

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Tone & Community Spirit

The episode is warm, lighthearted, and deeply appreciative. Jenna and Angela riff as best friends, celebrate quirky fan traditions, and share a genuine affection for Office fandom’s creativity and kindness. Their gratitude for the listeners is palpable, and the tone throughout is playful, candid, and personal.

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In Closing

This episode is a love letter to the Office fan community—full of personal stories, fan voices, shoutouts, and a peek into the show's continuing legacy of bringing people together. Whether you're a longtime listener or a new fan, it captures the spirit of friendship, nostalgia, and connection that defines both The Office and its beloved rewatch podcast.

Giveaway Reminder: Five lucky fans can win a holiday Office Ladies merch box. Details will be posted on Office Ladies Instagram.

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Transcript

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

And I'm Angela Kinsey.

[Jenna Fischer]

We were on the office together and we're best friends. And now we're doing the ultimate office lovers podcast just for you.

[Angela Kinsey]

Each week we will dive deeper into the world of the Office with exclusive interviews, behind the scenes details, and lots of BFF stories.

[Jenna Fischer]

We're Lady 6.0. Hello there.

[Angela Kinsey]

Hi there. Ho there.

[Jenna Fischer]

Ah, this is nice. We're back in our studio. This is our first in studio recording since I went to Chicago. I know.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's been months, lady.

[Jenna Fischer]

I know. I like being in real life with you.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know. In the irl life.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. I'm also really excited about today's episode.

[Angela Kinsey]

I am, too, because it's just joy. It's what it is. If you want a little bit of joy in your life, you're here. You're at the right spot.

[Jenna Fischer]

This is our fan appreciation episode. We are going to share about getting to meet all of you at the office convention and at the stage door of Ashland Avenue. But before we do that, Angela, you said you have a special fan appreciation shout out.

[Angela Kinsey]

I really do. I'm so tickled by this. And the first shout out I want to give to goes to an Office Ladies fan that works on the television game show Jeopardy.

[Jenna Fischer]

Mm.

[Angela Kinsey]

So here's the thing. Katie is her name Katie Ruskas. She reached out. She is the office production assistant at Jeopardy. And she wanted to tell us that Office Ladies was going to be a question on Jeopardy.

[Jenna Fischer]

I can't believe it.

[Angela Kinsey]

And as I began to trade messages with her, I found out that her dad is a huge Office Ladies fan. Shout out to Chris. Her dad.

[Jenna Fischer]

Hi, Chris.

[Angela Kinsey]

And her dad got Katie listening to Office Ladies and now they listen to it together.

[Jenna Fischer]

I love that.

[Angela Kinsey]

Is that adorable?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

Katie is such a delight. So the episode already came out?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. This aired on October 22nd. We have a clip. This is how we appeared on Jeopardy. Give it a listen.

[Angela Kinsey]

Television for 12, a podcast episode from Office Ladies debated whether or not this character in HR from the Office was the Scranton Strangler, Tom.

[Jenna Fischer]

Who's Toby?

[Sam]

Right.

[Angela Kinsey]

Isn't that so cool?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. I mean, that's really cool. I remember when I was the answer in one of the, like people crossword puzzles.

[Angela Kinsey]

So fun.

[Jenna Fischer]

And now Jeopardy.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know.

[Jenna Fischer]

It's the big time.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's the big time. Well, you know, my grandmother watched Jeopardy. Every day and I just think she would have been so thrilled with this. And if that wasn't cool enough, the folks at Jeopardy. Sent us each a framed copy of our Jeopardy. Question, and the day it aired, I have one for each of you guys. We'll get a picture and Share it. But how fun.

[Jenna Fischer]

I love it. Well, thank you, Katie, and please thank your dad for listening to the podcast. Now we're going to get into some stories about the Office Fan Convention.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, you know what? This was a really fun road trip that Cassie and I took. It was this past August. It was the big, big. The Office Fan Convention in New Jersey.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, we should tell everyone that I couldn't go to the Office Fan convention because I was in Chicago rehearsing my play. But like you said, you and Cassie did go together.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, it was Cassie's first the Office Convention, and everyone was so lovely. We got to meet a ton of people, and there were a lot of Office Ladies fans there.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, lady, I got to meet so many Office Ladies fans at the stage door for Ashland Avenue.

[Angela Kinsey]

Isn't it so fun? Cause they say lady, and you know right away. I do.

[Jenna Fischer]

If someone said lady, I knew they listened to Office Ladies. But, yeah, after each performance, I would come out. And so I think we had, like, 39 performances of Ashland Avenue, and I was able to come out 37 times.

[Angela Kinsey]

That's fantastic, because I've been to plays. People don't come out. I'm just saying.

[Jenna Fischer]

I know.

[Angela Kinsey]

That's really great.

[Jenna Fischer]

There were two I wasn't allowed to come out for, so if you were at those performances, I apologize. They don't do a stage door after opening night because there's this special event immediately following, and they want the cast and crew to get there quickly. And. And also, one day after a matinee, a man fell down the stairs in the lobby, and they had to call an ambulance and they had to clear the lobby, so I wasn't allowed to come out. He's okay.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay, good.

[Jenna Fischer]

But, lady, I have to share a story, because a few times I was on vocal rest because my voice, with eight shows a week, it was getting strained, and I would have these big weekends with so many shows in a row. So they said, you can do the stage door, but you can't speak. And so they would send the scowl Lauren out to the crowd, and she would explain that I was on vocal rest, but if people got their cameras ready or if they had their pens ready, that I was gonna come take pictures and sign things. And it was just very funny because every time I came out, normally I would come out the stage door, and people would be like, hey, yay. And it was so sweet. They would cheer for every cast member who came out the stage door. But if it was a vocal rest day, when I opened the door, people Would go, hi. As if the crowd was also on vocal rest.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's so cute.

[Jenna Fischer]

And then when I would interact with people, they would whisper as well. Or like, mime.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's such a natural thing that people do, because even when I called you because you were like, I can't talk, but you can talk, and I'd be.

[Jenna Fischer]

Like, hey, what am I doing? I know exactly.

[Angela Kinsey]

I can talk.

[Jenna Fischer]

But that's just one story. I have so many stories. But, lady, you start.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay. Well, that just warms my heart, just picturing all those people out there waiting for you. You know, I also wanna share that Josh and I met so many wonderful office ladies folks on our cookbook tour. I was so moved. I was so moved that people traveled far distances just to support us in our dream of having a cookbook. And, yeah, it was really special. One lady brought me a basket. Like a. You know, I love baskets.

[Jenna Fischer]

Just because you love a basket. Nothing in it.

[Angela Kinsey]

Nothing in it. Her name was Orla, and she was like, I support this passion of yours for baskets. And guess what? We put a bunch of stuff in it.

[Jenna Fischer]

Of course you did.

[Angela Kinsey]

Anyway, I wanna start right now with the office fan convention.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. I wanna hear these stories.

[Angela Kinsey]

So for one, for me, it was really special that Cassie got to go, because Cassie and Sam are such a big part of our office lady's family. And so many people were so tickled when I was like, cassie's here. They're like, cassie. And then they were like, where's Sam? And they were like, we need Sam. Word is on the street, Sam, also that you like conventions, so. So they're ready for you to turn up at things. But for those of you that haven't been to a convention, I was trying to describe it to my sister. You know, that's where people go when you're fans of movies and TV shows and you can meet people in the movies. And there's all kinds of great merch. Oh, my gosh. If you love merch. But this one was specifically just for the office fans. Like, there weren't people from the Marvel movies or it's just the office community. And the energy was so profoundly positive and. And wonderful. I had a booth. You know, you have booths where people can wait in line to meet you. Mine was right next to Rainn Wilson. We had a curtain between us, and he kept opening the curtain and yelling things at me, like, you talk too much. Speed it up. He was like, kind of like giving me all day. It was really funny. But you meet people from all over The United States, and honestly, all over the world. And they share with you what the Office has meant to them. And the day is kind of structured. So you have this line where you meet people, but then you also pop off and you go do photo ops with different configurations of the cast. And those are so fun. So you do a big group photo. But then they were like, okay, now one just with the accountants. So it'd be me and Oscar and Brian.

[Jenna Fischer]

And then a fan as well.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes. And then they pop in.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay.

[Angela Kinsey]

And then it will say, okay, does anyone want a picture with Dwight and Angela? And so then we have all these duangela fans, which shout out to my duangela people. And so you do that, and then you have a Q and A panel. And the whole cast gets up there and fans ask questions.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. Yes, lady. I sent in a video to play during that panel. Cause I couldn't be there. And they edited it together. It was so cute.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, shout out to Matt from the Office Alliance. It's an Instagram account that's all things the Office. He really helped put your video together. And people loved it the minute you popped up on the screen. I wish I had video of the audience. Cause they were like, yay, Jenna's here.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, I'm so glad. I always love doing the Office panels. Like, I like those Q and A's.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know. Yeah, they're really fun. People always have the best questions. But I do have to share one cute, fun moment from the Q and A panel. So a fan had asked a question about, you know, is there a moment where you got nervous on the show or something like that? And I shared how I don't like to sing in front of people. You know? And then all of a sudden, I had to sing the Little Drummer Boy in front of the whole entire cast.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

And how I was really nervous, so I got up and Rain and I recreated the moment.

[Jenna Fischer]

You did?

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes. And he dropped to his knee and did the whole thing. It was so cute.

[Jenna Fischer]

People love it.

[Angela Kinsey]

People went nuts. I think there's video of it that I'll share.

[Jenna Fischer]

Ugh.

[Angela Kinsey]

On Saturday of the convention, over 7,000 people came. Isn't that amazing? That's a lot. A huge amount of the cast came and some of our crew.

[Jenna Fischer]

That's so amazing. What a fun experience.

[Angela Kinsey]

So not only do you have all of this really great engagement between the cast of the Office, the crew of the Office, and fans that love the show, but these conventions are also an amazing opportunity for artists that love the Office and do the Office fan art, including tattoo artists. Lady, you could get a tattoo at the convention.

[Jenna Fischer]

Wait, like a temporary tattoo or a permanent tattoo?

[Angela Kinsey]

No, a real tattoo. And they would be all office themes, like Save Bandit or prison Mic tattoo or a Dundee or a teapot, or like, a tattoo with Angela Martin that's, like, sassy. I mean, I met so many people that had office inspired tattoos. They were amazing. I took a few pictures, but my favorite was this lady I met who had a tattoo on her calf of a train, and the train had a sign on it that said slow. And then next to the sign, it said Philly. Like, you're coming into Philly, but you're on the slow train.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

It was so awesome. I'll put it in our stories.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, lady, I know that you love seeing people's office tattoos. You often send me text messages of people you've met who have showed you their office tattoos.

[Angela Kinsey]

I mean, I find it so fascinating. People love the show that much. They get a tattoo.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, when I met people at the stage door, if they showed me an office tattoo, I would ask if I could take a photo, and then I sent them to you.

[Angela Kinsey]

You did? I did have a favorite.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay.

[Angela Kinsey]

I think it was someone that got the little hot dog that said, hiya, buddy. Hiya, buddy.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. But there was also a woman who had a whole arm, like, a sleeve of all office tattoos. I took a video. I was like, would it be weird if I took a video of your arm so I can send it to Angela? She was like, no, it was incredible.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, Cassie was able to walk around to all the different booths. I was sort of, you know, a little bit stuck in my line, so I didn't get to explore quite as much. And she took a lot of pictures and videos. And Cassie is actually in here in the studio with us. And Cassie, you got to meet a lot of people and ask them about their love for the office and office ladies. And you compiled all these audio clips. You spent a lot of time. It was really wonderful. We're going to share some of them today, but before we start playing them, I was wondering if you could tell us a little bit about your experience at the convention.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Yeah, of course. It was so nice meeting all these, like, office ladies fans and office fans and, like, really feeling how passionate they are for the show and the podcast. And, yeah, I talked to so many people. I had, like, a little microphone.

[Angela Kinsey]

You did. You had your own line? I looked over. Like, I would meet people and then they'd go over and we'd be like, do you want to say hi to Cassie? I feel like almost everybody said yes.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Everyone. Yeah, pretty much everyone did. So it was really hard to, like, pick my favorite clips because I loved them all. But there is one that I think is a good to start with.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay, great. Can we hear it? Sam, Cheryl and Elizabeth.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Hi.

[Betty Jean]

From Connecticut.

[Jenna Fischer]

Nice.

[Betty Jean]

Yep.

[Cassie Jerkins]

And what does the office mean to you?

[Betty Jean]

Levity.

[Angela Kinsey]

And she brings levity to the office every day.

[Betty Jean]

Now I literally am not allowed to say. That's what she said before.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Yeah. Wait, do you two work together?

[Betty Jean]

And we're best friends.

[Angela Kinsey]

And we're best friends.

[Cassie Jerkins]

That's so cool. It's like the Office and Office Ladies combined.

[Angela Kinsey]

Aww.

[Jenna Fischer]

Cheryl And Elizabeth, they're BFFs that work together.

[Angela Kinsey]

So sweet. I like that they have rules, though. You can't say that's what she said.

[Cassie Jerkins]

The other clip I wanted to start off with is this clip from Julia, who is a huge Office Ladies fan.

[Angela Kinsey]

Great.

[Jenna Fischer]

My name's Julia.

[Cassie Jerkins]

And what are you wearing?

[Jenna Fischer]

So I've got my teapot earrings, I've.

[Angela Kinsey]

Got the pans, and then, of course.

[Jenna Fischer]

My podcast merch Here, my scarf.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Do you have a favorite Office Ladies episode or moment?

[Jenna Fischer]

I. I love the Booze Cruise episode where Greg Daniels talks about, you know, what are people saying they're doing versus what they're doing and how to catch that.

[Cassie Jerkins]

You learn so much on the podcast. What does the office mean to you?

[Jenna Fischer]

The office is home. And I feel most like myself when I'm listening to the podcast on my Wednesday walk.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Yay.

[Angela Kinsey]

Every time I hear when someone shares that they listen to the podcast on their walk or in their commute and just know that we fill that time for them and we're a happy place for them. I love it so much.

[Jenna Fischer]

I think it's so sweet that she was wearing so much of our merch, Angela, because you work so hard on it.

[Angela Kinsey]

I do love merch. And when I see anyone in an Office lady sweatshirt or anything, I do geek out, I always comment on it.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, at the stage door, people would wear our merch. And like the tattoos, if anybody was wearing our merch, I asked if I could take a picture and send it to you. One woman wore our office lady's apron. Our apron lady.

[Angela Kinsey]

Wait, that's traveling back in time.

[Jenna Fischer]

I know. I believe her name was Vera. And she also gave me some gooey butter cake from St. Louis, so. Thank you, Vera.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, why don't we take a break, and when we come back, we're gonna share some more stories from the convention and the stage door, some really amazing fan encounters, including. Cassie. And I have a story for you about a couple that got married at the convention.

[Jenna Fischer]

At the convention.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes. And there might have been an office cast member that officiated.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, my goodness.

[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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Oh, it's so nice. It's just soft and warm. They have all kinds of colors. Like depending what you like to wear, they've got it.

[Jenna Fischer]

I mean, when I think holidays, I do think that cashmere sweater that you get all warm and cozy that you wear to the holiday dinner.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. But here's the thing I have embraced now. The everyday cashmere, like the cute little cashmere you put with jeans and your little hiking boots and you go to the farmer's market.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, I like this story you're telling. Yes, I do. Very much.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, Macy's is my one stop shop for gifting this season for everyone on my list. And that includes me, lady.

[Jenna Fischer]

I have started every year buying myself a little something.

[Angela Kinsey]

Started. How about always? I always do this. This is like something I'll like, go to get you a birthday gift. I'm like, oh, that's cute. And then I get something for me.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, sometimes too. Maybe make it easier on your partner. Cause we're always overwhelmed. And Lee does this for me too. He'll be out, he'll buy something and he'll hand it to me and he'll say, wrap this up and give it to me for Christmas. And I do the same.

[Angela Kinsey]

Same. I do that too. Especially if I know it's something that Josh wouldn't normally pick out for me. He's probably not gonna know which cashmere sweater I want.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. Or what you already have.

[Angela Kinsey]

That's it. That's the thing too, right?

[Jenna Fischer]

That's it.

[Angela Kinsey]

What I already have. Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, cashmere really fits any occasion. And Macy's pieces are designed to be soft and warm. They're made to be worn every day, not just on special occasions like you said, Angela.

[Angela Kinsey]

And Macy's has over half a century of experience crafting exceptionally soft pieces from premium fabrics. And you know what? They're also affordable. So it looks like you're making a big splurge. But you know what? You're just getting a great deal on a lovely cashmere sweater.

[Jenna Fischer]

I think cashmere also makes you look like you're making a big effort, but really it's sort of effortless. It does the job for you.

[Angela Kinsey]

It really does. Get your holiday shopping done with Macy's this year for everyone on your list, including a yourself.

[Jenna Fischer]

Plus Macy's friends and family event is also going on right now through December 11th with 30 to 50% off the best brands, including 15% off beauty and fragrances.

[Angela Kinsey]

So if you're in gifting mode, take advantage. Shop now in store or@macy's.com. so, Jenna, you and I always say you're never too old to be curious about something, to learn something new. There's a great way to learn new things and that is with masterclass. And you get to learn from the best, to become the best. Like the best in whatever field that is. You get to take a class with them.

[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

Officeladies masterclass.com officeladies this show is sponsored by Better Help. So here we are. It's the holidays. Holidays are a time of traditions. I think when you think of holiday tradition, you're usually thinking about, oh, how do we decorate, how do we exchange gifts? But I wonder if we should add something, a new tradition to the holidays, which is the tradition of self care.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, I like that.

[Jenna Fischer]

Right?

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Because it can be a hectic and chaotic time.

[Angela Kinsey]

Absolutely. And also it can be a lonely time, you know?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. And prioritizing the tradition of self care at the holidays, I feel like we need to add that to the list.

[Angela Kinsey]

I really like that. Well, you know, you're probably having to deal with a lot of folks around the holidays. And therapy can be a way for you to learn positive coping skills, how to reset your boundaries or just set your boundaries and empower yourself to be the best version of yourself.

[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

This December, start a new tradition by taking care of you. Our listeners get 10% [e-mail] OfficeLadies that's better. H E L P.com OfficeLadies all right, we are back. And Jenna, Cassie and I have quite a story for you all. It was the first time ever at the office convention that two people got married. Andy Buckley was the officiate.

[Jenna Fischer]

David Wallace.

[Angela Kinsey]

Uh huh.

[Jenna Fischer]

Amazing.

[Angela Kinsey]

So Ryan, a Dwight cosplayer, got married to his fiance Cora, who is also a cosplayer. And for the wedding, the two of them dressed up as Angela Martin and Dwight Schrute. Uh huh. Amazing. And for any of you guys listening who haven't been to conventions, cosplaying is very popular. People dress up as their favorite characters. They go all out.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Yeah. And Ryan even reserved a booth and he set up a Dwight desk. And it had Dwight's little placard and computer phone, a jello mold with a stapler in it. And it was so cool. People could take pictures with him at the desk. And I loved talking with him. And here's a clip of him explaining how he ended up getting married at the convention on Sunday morning.

[Ryan (Dwight Cosplayer)]

So I had plans to get married this year. I actually proposed in front of Weird Al last year. I made him part of the proposal. Can I help me out? About a month and a half ago, I reached out to Andy Buckley. Not expecting anything. I just said, hey, would you be interested? Like, it's the last reunion and I really want to do something special. I'm planning on getting married anyway. It'll be the two year anniversary of when we met. Do you think you would be interested in marrying us at the reunion? And I expected him to say, you know, I'm really, really honored you thought of me. I don't really have the time, you know, congratulations, I hope you two have a great life. But he got very, very excited about it. Like he might be as excited about it as we are and went and got himself ordained. And yeah, he can't wait for the day, just like us.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Yeah, it's so amazing. I'm so excited for you all. Several people have come up to me and they're like, you should come to talk to him because they're getting married here at the convention. Like, it is a huge buzz this weekend.

[Ryan (Dwight Cosplayer)]

I mean, we're gonna post tons of photos.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Are you planning to cosplay as you get married or will you be yourself?

[Ryan (Dwight Cosplayer)]

Oh, no, we're going to be Dwight and Angela tonight. I'm using foam board and duct tape to make a makeshift coffin. And that's what we're gonna be standing in when we're married. Cause that's the best you can do on a hard convention floor, you know?

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, my gosh.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know, right?

[Jenna Fischer]

Wow.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's amazing. And how great that Andy Buckley was just like, I got this. I'm here for you. I was able to arrive early that day, and they were doing all their wedding photos right after they got married. And I took pictures with them. Amazing. And they had two best men who were dressed as Mo's and Michael Scott.

[Jenna Fischer]

Wow, that is so cool. You got pictures too. Can you put them in stories?

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, I absolutely will. But a lot of people are dressed up as different office characters. One of the gals that helped work my booth, Betty Jean, she's the sweetest. She told me that she first attended a convention doing cosplay of Pam.

[Jenna Fischer]

Sam. You've done cosplay at conventions. And while I'm slightly afraid to ask this question, would you like to share some of the characters you've dressed up as? I know Big Titty Gandalf is one.

[Angela Kinsey]

Is that the official name of that one?

[Sam]

Yes, Big Titty Gandalf is the name of the character. My personal favorites are. I went as Ash from Evil Dead when I met Bruce Campbell. I just met Tim Curry last weekend dressed as Georgie from IT with the missing one arm and the bloodied raincoat. Other than that, I think those are my favorite.

[Angela Kinsey]

Do you have any plans to go to a convention? Do you have another one coming up?

[Sam]

I do. I'm meeting Robert Englund, who was Freddy Krueger in January, and the Fonz in the same day. So I'm gonna try and go as.

[Jenna Fischer]

You're gonna meet Henry Winkler?

[Sam]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Do you know he's the nicest person on the whole Earth?

[Sam]

Okay, I do. Years ago, we had a show at Earwolf called Reading Aloud. It was a reading podcast that Nate Cordry hosted. And Henry Winkler was the guest. He called in and the studio shut down. There was a fire alarm that went off. And apparently when the fire alarm goes off in the building, everything shuts down, electricity wise. So the board shut down. So we lost him. We lost the phone call. I have this great voicemail. It goes, hi, it's Henry Winkler, the actor. I was the Fonz. He goes, I was just on the call. Like, he gave his whole resume.

[Angela Kinsey]

Like, so you knew who it was.

[Jenna Fischer]

Because he's the nicest, most like, just humble person on earth.

[Guest or Fan]

Yeah.

[Sam]

So I'm gonna try and put together a Freddy Krueger slash Fonz outfit.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, you have to show us A picture.

[Jenna Fischer]

He has a pictures with both.

[Sam]

Exactly. Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

This is your challenge now.

[Sam]

Exactly.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay.

[Angela Kinsey]

Are you watching or have you watched Barry?

[Sam]

Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

He's so good in it.

[Sam]

He's the best. He's the best in that and Arrested Development, too.

[Jenna Fischer]

I love him in Arrested Development.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, thanks, Sam.

[Jenna Fischer]

Thank you, Sam. Oh, lady, speaking of cosplay, did I send you the photo of the gal who came to my play dressed as Pam? As Pam. Her name was Kelly. I walk out to do the stage door, and there she is. She was in, like, a button down blouse, a pencil skirt, sneakers. It was amazing. I took a photo with her. I will give it to you for stories.

[Angela Kinsey]

I love that, Jenna. You know, Cassie has a great story where a fan told her about meeting an office cast member. Cassie, can you share it?

[Cassie Jerkins]

Oh, my gosh. It's so unique. And I have a clip, so let's listen to it. I'm Sophia.

[Angela Kinsey]

I'm from New York. I'm Susan. I'm her mom. I'm from Newburgh, New York. Yeah. Love it.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Is this your first office convention?

[Angela Kinsey]

This is our second, actually.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Okay.

[Angela Kinsey]

We were at the inaugural, so. Yeah.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Do you have, like, a favorite moment from last time you came to the convention? I met Creed, and it's funny, I got my wisdom teeth out the day before, so it was like I was, like, on pain meds and I was.

[Angela Kinsey]

Like, this is awesome. This is a great way to spend. But she muscled through to get in there. So, yeah, definitely meeting Creed.

[Cassie Jerkins]

It was awesome. Yeah. Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

Can you imagine meeting Creed on painkillers?

[Jenna Fischer]

No. No. You can barely believe anything Creed Sundays when you're 100% sober.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know. That's amazing. Cassie, was there anything about the convention that surprised you?

[Cassie Jerkins]

Yeah, two things really stood out to me. The first is I was surprised by how families attended the office convention together.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. There were so many families. I'm talking like, moms, dads, little kids, teenage kids. And it was really sweet to see them all there.

[Jenna Fischer]

Angela, wasn't your family at the convention?

[Angela Kinsey]

They did. So Josh and the kids stopped by. We made this sort of a family trip to New York and then we went on to Iceland.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

But they did come for half a day, and they were there for the Q and A panel.

[Jenna Fischer]

What did they think of all of it?

[Angela Kinsey]

It was wild. I think people, first of all, when they saw them walk in, people clapped and they were like, oh, it's so glad you're here. And so I think they really felt the warmth and love of the office fandom. For the cast and the crew, and I think it was really special for them. I think it was also kind of that thing where it's like, well, that's just my mom. What's going on?

[Jenna Fischer]

You know? Yeah. You know, my kids, they don't see that kind of, like, fandom interaction very often. And so I think they were a little bit like, whoa. Like, when that stage door would open and people were cheering for their mom.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. You know, I know you don't get that every day. Like, when you're like, all right, it's dinner. Who's coming down, helps set the table. They're not like, baby, exactly. Well, Cassie, I saw you talking to a few of the families that I got to meet. Can you share with us about that?

[Cassie Jerkins]

Oh, my gosh. Yeah. There are so many families, and I love talking with all of them. I just want to share a couple. Here's a clip of Max, Emily, Ella, and their parents and Amy and Mike from New Hampshire.

[Jenna Fischer]

My name is Max, and I'm from Somersworth, New Hampshire.

[Cassie Jerkins]

New Hampshire.

[Jenna Fischer]

What's your name?

[Sam]

Emmy.

[Jenna Fischer]

Emmy.

[Angela Kinsey]

And I'm Ella.

[Jenna Fischer]

Ella.

[Cassie Jerkins]

And are you the parents? Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Amy, Mike.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Great. And I take it you all love the office. I've been raised on it, yeah. Do you have, like, a favorite episode?

[Jenna Fischer]

I really like the one where Dwight almost burns down the building with the fire drill.

[Cassie Jerkins]

I saw you have office tattoos. Are you the only one in the family with office tattoos?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes, sure is.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Can you let the podcast know what your office tattoos are?

[Angela Kinsey]

Yep. So I've got one prison mic on.

[Ryan (Dwight Cosplayer)]

One calf, and on the other calf.

[Angela Kinsey]

Is Dwight as Jim. Wow, that's amazing.

[Jenna Fischer]

You know, speaking of families, I have a share about a dad and his daughters who listen to Office Ladies. So I didn't get to meet the dad, but the daughters were at the stage door, and they were so sweet. They told me the sweet story, and I asked if they would say it again if I could record it. Here's what they said. Okay, ladies, say your name.

[Angela Kinsey]

Delaney, Bridget, you have to now tell.

[Jenna Fischer]

The Office Ladies listeners and Angela what you just told me, because it's the cutest thing in the whole world.

[Angela Kinsey]

My dad and I listen to the Office Ladies podcast whenever in the car together. His name is Brad, and he and the rest of my family, Carter and my mom Stacey, were the biggest fans. It's on repeat in our house all the time. I love you.

[Jenna Fischer]

And you have to say, why are.

[Angela Kinsey]

You here tonight in Chicago seeing this play? We're here because you bought us tickets to Come and see it. And it was amazing. Your dad bought you tickets and was.

[Jenna Fischer]

Like, ladies, go see this show. Thank you.

[Angela Kinsey]

What's your dad's name? Brad. Brad. Thank you.

[Jenna Fischer]

Isn't that so sweet? She said her dad heard about the play on the podcast and he said, girls, you gotta go see it. And he got him tickets.

[Angela Kinsey]

That is so sweet. This is Katie and Chris.

[Jenna Fischer]

Exactly.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's so. I just love it. I love the show, bringing families together and the podcast.

[Jenna Fischer]

Cassie anymore?

[Cassie Jerkins]

Yeah, I'll share one more. I really enjoyed talking to this family. Elise, Bridget and Anderson from South Carolina and Georgia.

[Angela Kinsey]

I am Alise Scarborough and I'm from Charleston, South Carolina. Bridget Scarborough, Savannah, Georgia.

[Guest or Fan]

Anderson Scarborough. Savannah, Georgia.

[Angela Kinsey]

Love it.

[Cassie Jerkins]

And what are you wearing?

[Angela Kinsey]

I am a bear.

[Jenna Fischer]

I am a beat.

[Guest or Fan]

And I am Battlestar Galactica.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Love it. Love it. Is this your first office convention?

[Betty Jean]

Yes.

[Cassie Jerkins]

And what does the Office mean to you?

[Angela Kinsey]

Everything.

[Jenna Fischer]

I think I look, I think I.

[Angela Kinsey]

Watch it every single day.

[Jenna Fischer]

It's like when I fall asleep to.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know if I put the office on, it's time for bed. It just brings us so much joy.

[Jenna Fischer]

We like to watch it when we all hang out together.

[Angela Kinsey]

We're watching at this point, Morning, getting ready.

[Jenna Fischer]

It's just really. It gives us.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's not gonna lie.

[Guest or Fan]

I did not like the Office for the longest time. I did not like it because them too, especially Elise. She would always throw it on in the car during making dinner. It was always on. And I'd be like, yo, it's not even that funny. And then I think, like, I don't know, I caught like an episode or two and I was like, dang, this is actually really funny. I watched through the whole season and I remember sitting at my mom's house watching the finale at like three in the morning because I just had to finish it that night. And when Steve Carell came back and I cried, I bawled my eyes out, dog. I cried so bad. It was such an amazing finale. And I always say that if aliens were to ever come and they were like, yo, give us a TV show to watch, to describe America, I think the Office would be like the perfect thing. Like, that's the show that would describe America as a whole. Get them caught up to speed. Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Can I tell you what I love about Anderson? Anderson went from turn off that show, get it out of my life to being dressed as Battlestar Galactica in a three person outfit at an office convention. Right? Like, that is a journey that he has gone on.

[Angela Kinsey]

Also to say, okay, aliens this is what our gift to you. Now you understand our world. That was awesome. Cassie, you said there was one other thing that really surprised you.

[Cassie Jerkins]

What was it? Yeah, I kept asking fans what their favorite Office episode was, and so many fans kept saying this one episode, and I wouldn't have ever guessed it. Do you guys want to try to guess?

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay, so it's something I wouldn't guess because my first instinct would be like, dinner party or booze cruise or something. So this is one I wouldn't guess.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Mm.

[Ryan (Dwight Cosplayer)]

Ugh.

[Jenna Fischer]

I'm thinking.

[Angela Kinsey]

I'm thinking too.

[Jenna Fischer]

Goodbye, Michael is my guess.

[Angela Kinsey]

I'll go season one and I'll say diversity day.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Oh, no. Max actually hinted at it. It's stress relief.

[Jenna Fischer]

Stress relief. People love stress because of that cold open.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. With the fire Safe Bandit.

[Angela Kinsey]

We should watch the superfan version of stress relief.

[Jenna Fischer]

Sure. Yeah, maybe we should. If it's everybody's favorite.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know.

[Jenna Fischer]

I wonder what new little nuggets are in that one.

[Angela Kinsey]

I wonder. We might have to hit up David Rogers.

[Jenna Fischer]

I've noticed you've started calling Dave Rogers. David Rogers. Is this his preferred name now?

[Angela Kinsey]

No, I think it's because I have a brother in law named David who I call Dave constantly and then sort of heard my sister in law and some of his family always say David. And then I said to Josh, is he Dave or David? And then he was like, he's Dave. I'm like, okay, fine. And then his sister was like, no, he's David.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Oh.

[Jenna Fischer]

But is Dave Rogers now David? I don't know.

[Angela Kinsey]

And I think I have this default now where I'm like, I'm gonna say both. I'm gonna do 50.

[Cassie Jerkins]

50.

[Angela Kinsey]

Sometimes I'm gonna say Dave, sometimes I'm gonna say David.

[Jenna Fischer]

I was just checking.

[Angela Kinsey]

I'm covering all my bases.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, the lunch with him, maybe we should ask.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, Angela, you mentioned that you met people from all over the world. I'm curious who traveled the furthest. Do we know, to the convention?

[Cassie Jerkins]

I remember who I talked to, and I can let Adam answer.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, oh, okay. Adam from England? Yeah.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Oh, did you travel all the way to be here today?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

Just for this.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, my gosh.

[Angela Kinsey]

I've seen. I've seen pictures of the past ones.

[Jenna Fischer]

And I thought, oh, I've got.

[Jim McDermott]

Wish I could go.

[Angela Kinsey]

And then this is the last one, so. Yeah, I had to do it.

[Jim McDermott]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's amazing.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Yeah.

[Jim McDermott]

Really good.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Now, you said you listen to the podcast. Do you have, like, a favorite episode or moment from the podcast?

[Jim McDermott]

I really Enjoyed one of the latest.

[Angela Kinsey]

Ones with Lucy Davis, obviously because of.

[Jim McDermott]

The sort of British connection as well.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, that was fascinating.

[Jim McDermott]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

Really good.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay. I remember Adam. So I met Adam and we were talking about the podcast and he said one of the things that was always hard for him is if we had to skip a week, if we were going in order. And we had to skip a week. Cause it was like Christmas break or whatever.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh. And we left him hanging. If it was like a two part episode.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes, Especially if it was a two part episode. And I told him, I was like, you're gonna love Monday second drinks. Because it is the entire show, the whole rewatch, in order to. We're not going to miss one. And we're adding new information at the top, anything we missed. So you're going to get a little more stuff at the top. But I was like, don't you worry, Adam. It's going to be in order.

[Jenna Fischer]

I'm glad you mentioned the second drinks, because I had a couple people ask me what they were like. They were confused by it. And it's been going on for almost two years now. And I guess for anyone who missed it, it's our original rewatch, but with about 10 minutes of new information at the top. So you can just listen to the 10 minutes if you want, or if you want to listen to that and then keep going. You can revisit all of our Office Ladies episodes in order, with no breaks, like you said.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. Especially because when we first started the rewatch, there was a lot of information that we gathered as we went. We found more scripts, we found the candy bag alts, we found outlines, we had writers, assistants, writers directors give us a whole bunch of information. So if we missed anything, now is our chance with the second drinks to include all that.

[Jenna Fischer]

I'm also going back to our archive fan mailbags for all of those episodes and I'm pulling extra questions or things that people are telling us we missed or got wrong. So if you wrote us like five years ago, you might hear yourself on a second drink.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. To the guy that wrote me that we missed a Daryl storyline. You're going to hear it.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, I had a lot of people share that. They traveled to see the play. It just warmed my heart. I would go out to the stage door and people would literally have their luggage with them. Like they came right off the train or, you know, right from the airport. Someone told me they traveled solo from Singapore.

[Angela Kinsey]

Wow.

[Jenna Fischer]

There was someone from Brazil, someone from Argentina, and then just lots of people from all around the country. And that was really moving to me that people came out to support the play. And my favorite was when there was, like, a group of people who had all traveled together or met up. I know a lot of people coordinated that on our Facebook fan page. I just loved seeing how Office Ladies brought people together and then they went on these creative adventures, you know, like going to the convention together, coming to see the play. And there was one group, they called themselves. Oh, my gosh. What were they called? Oh, they called themselves the Culture Club. That was like their version of a finer things club. And they go out and they go see art or see plays. And so thank you to the Culture Club for coming to see Ashland Avenue.

[Angela Kinsey]

It is really special, though, the Office Lady's Facebook fan page that is moderated by Nikki and all of these wonderful people that have met.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, Nikki came to Ashland Avenue.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, I saw your picture.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. And, you know, it is a really wonderful community, and a lot of people have made friendships and I think lasting friendships through this group. And, Cassie, you said you talked to some Office Ladies folks, too?

[Cassie Jerkins]

Yeah. Oh, my goodness. I met so many Office Ladies fans. I really want to share this clip from Richard and Rachel from South Carolina. You have to hear where Rachel listens to Office Ladies.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay.

[Jim McDermott]

I'm Richard and this is Rachel.

[Angela Kinsey]

We're from South Carolina.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Awesome. And what are you wearing?

[Jim McDermott]

So we're wearing our Michael Scott's Dunder.

[Angela Kinsey]

Mifflin Scranton Meredith Palmer Memorial Celebrity Rabies.

[Jim McDermott]

Awareness Pro Am, Run for Fun Run, Race for the Cure.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's hard to read upside down. They hung up.

[Cassie Jerkins]

No, Michael came up with that name. They need to hear the entire name. What does the Office mean to you? It's some of the last good television, I think.

[Angela Kinsey]

I mean, it's just.

[Jenna Fischer]

It's excellent television.

[Angela Kinsey]

And it's a way that we unwind.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Like, every day, and it's our time to just relax.

[Jim McDermott]

And, yeah, after a really stressful day, We've got kids, we've got a farm, We've got our jobs. It's nice to just get together today, snuggle up in bed, and watch the Office. It helps put us to sleep every night. It's such great writing.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's just so good.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. Half of our goats are named after the office characters.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Oh, my gosh.

[Angela Kinsey]

We breed goats in one of our.

[Jenna Fischer]

Our bucks is named Michael Scott.

[Angela Kinsey]

And so we have a lot of Scott's tots.

[Cassie Jerkins]

When you said farm, I was just like, oh, they're referring to their kids. But no, you have a Literal farm with goats. That's so cool.

[Jenna Fischer]

I'm usually listening to Office Ladies when I'm bush hogging the fields. Like that is how I drown out the tractor noise, is I listen to Office Ladies and look at my goats. Named after the office characters. Rachel.

[Angela Kinsey]

I love it.

[Jenna Fischer]

I hope right now that's happening. I hope we're in your ear right now.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know, Rachel. I keep telling Josh I want one of those little mini goats.

[Jenna Fischer]

Aw, you want one of Scott's tots?

[Angela Kinsey]

I do. I said that on the Today show when we were on for our cookbook. At the end, they were like, oh, Angela, do you have cats in real life? And I was like, we have cats, we have dogs. I was like, I'd have more animals if Josh would let me. I want a goat. And you could have heard record scratch and someone goes, a goat. How delightful. Something like that. And I was like, oh no, that'll be the thing that haunts me. And sure enough, my family was like, you won't. Goats.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, listen, then, why don't we take a break and when we come back, we're just going to keep chatting about our convention and stage door adventures.

[Angela Kinsey]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

Five steps at most.

[Angela Kinsey]

I can manage that.

[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

Yes.

[Cassie Jerkins]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Jenna Fischer]

All right, we're back. And I don't know why I didn't mention this earlier, but there was a huge group of people one night at the stage door. They called themselves the convention people. They were like, we're the convention people. They had all been at the convention together, and then they all came out to Chicago. And, lady, that is the group that was holding your cookbook in the reel that I posted on Instagram back in October for your book launch.

[Angela Kinsey]

That was so sweet.

[Jenna Fischer]

They were so sweet. I had your cookbook in my backpack because I was flipping through the recipes at intermission, and I was like, oh, this is the perfect crowd. And one of the things they told me, they were so sweet. They were like, jackie De Botton says hi. Jim McDermott says hi. Cause Jim McDermott was at the convention.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes.

[Jenna Fischer]

He was our set dresser on the office.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes. So, you know, in the years past, several of our crew members have been able to attend the convention and share their experience. And it was so great to see Jim. I was able to chat with him one morning. And, Cassie, you got to talk to him too, right?

[Cassie Jerkins]

Yeah. So when I wasn't in Angela's line, I went around and I talked to different cast members and I talked to Jim as well. So here's a great clip of him describing his job and some of the challenges he had working on the show. Do you want to describe your job for the fans we just set, decorator.

[Jim McDermott]

We go to production, we get it, get this script early, read it, break it down, determine how much manpower we need, truck power, how much the rentals would be for each set and how much purchases we'd have to budget that in. And we always came within a thousand dollars. So we did a pretty good job. There were some pretty big sets and everybody thought, yeah, you got the easiest job in town. All you got is an office. It's like. No, we got the New York office. We got. We had Oscars apartment, We had Gabe's apartment. We had everything. You know, the warehouse house set was huge. And then we had all the other district offices, Nashua and all these other ones. So, I mean, you know, we went into empty office buildings, recreated those and made all kinds of graphics and everything. You know, the Dunder Mifflin graphics. And it was just such a fun thing to do.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Do you have like a favorite set that you created?

[Jim McDermott]

Well, this was behind Jenna's desk. Hi, Jenna. I'll show you. It was this right here.

[Cassie Jerkins]

This is a certificate of participation with James name on it. Oh, yeah, it's right behind. If you hear this screaming, it's a pretzel eating contest. Leslie David Baker just got on stage. It's great. Do you have an office episode that you're like, this one was a pain in my butt to work on.

[Jim McDermott]

I think the New York corporate office. When we first did it, it was kind of tricky, but it was mostly hall, hallway and a couple in a lobby. It wasn't so bad. We put a lot of detail into Gabe's apartment. And that was a really nice set. Yeah, that was a good one. That's when Dwight picked up the baby and it stopped crying. In real life, the baby stopped crying. It was a good one take, man.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Yeah.

[Jim McDermott]

And then that was. That was a real nice set. And Oscars. We put a lot of thought into Oscar's apartment. We actually had a bathroom in there that we did a nice job. And they never shot in the bathroom. Yeah, but they were really good people to us. I mean, everybody was cool to work with. Yeah, all the actors were really nice.

[Cassie Jerkins]

I mean, that's great. Last question. So you go in and you create the set when they're actually shooting. Do you stay on set during the shoot?

[Jim McDermott]

He's called an on set dresser. He stays with the camera. But we come in in the morning, get there early, and the guys clean all the sets. They vacuum and dust and clean up everything. But, you know, we'll leave all Stanley's crossword puzzles on his desk and make sure Creed has his solitaire game up. And I have a guy that comes in and cleans the computers every week. An IT guy.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Yeah.

[Jim McDermott]

And we had live plants in there, so there's nothing fake. So I got the order for the Boise paper, and they give us free script paper. Gave us pallets of paper every month, so probably saved them millions of dollars on paper alone. And then we would take. Take the empty boxes and put them in the warehouse set on pallets. So all those boxes in the warehouse set were empty? Yeah. When they had to go through some and load up, we put little sandbags in them full of sand. So when they dropped it, it sounded like it was heavy. And then the props. All the props we got like. Remember the froggy sticker next to Dwight's den? I put that on there.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Jim McDermott]

So we had. We got in touch. We were trying to figure out how to use things from scratch. So I suggested. We called Barbie. Potus is her name. She's the Chamber of Commerce president. And we're like, can we get some local Scranton goods from your local businesses? But they gotta sign off. We thought we'd get like three or four boxes. We got ten pallets of stuff. Yeah, tons of stuff. Yeah.

[Cassie Jerkins]

That's amazing.

[Jim McDermott]

Yeah, so we got. We used a lot of it, you know, Refrigerator had all kinds of menus on it. Alfredo's pizza is a real pizzeria.

[Guest or Fan]

Yeah.

[Jim McDermott]

So I ended up meeting a lot of people that are friends with in Scranton. So I'm going to go to the 5k next year.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, I want to go.

[Jim McDermott]

I wish Jenna was here. I hope Jenna's doing okay. Hi, Jenna.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Yeah, she's doing okay. She's working on a play in Chicago now.

[Jim McDermott]

That's great.

[Jenna Fischer]

I love that detail that he shared about the pallets in the warehouse that we got all that free paper that we use to print our scripts every week. And then they just filled them with sandbags. I had no idea all those boxes were empty. Yeah, I just assumed all those were actually filled with paper, I guess. Cause they were heavy.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, I remember Oscar's apartment with such detail. I took a bunch of pictures of it because I was doing a home renovation. And I was like, you guys, this is so beautiful. And I didn't realize they didn't do a single scene in the bathroom.

[Jenna Fischer]

You know, they built a whole bathroom set for Ashland Avenue. Cause our characters walk in there from time to time, but only, like, this tiny sliver of the audience could see it. It was literally like, 12 seats. Could see into the bathroom, but they built a whole bathroom. I was really appreciative of it because otherwise I would have been, like, walking backstage and just kind of pretending I was in a bathroom, but I could stand in a real bathroom. That was cool.

[Angela Kinsey]

I did not see the bathroom set.

[Jenna Fischer]

No, no, no. Literally, 12 people. Like our director, Susan Booth. She'd always be like, okay, Jenna, exit to the bathroom. 12 people will get to see what you're doing in there. So don't forget you got acting while you're in there.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Wow, that's so cool. Oh, and Jim gave me something to give to you too.

[Jenna Fischer]

He did?

[Cassie Jerkins]

Yeah, yeah. So he gave me the daily call sheet for the pilot.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, wow.

[Jenna Fischer]

Wow. And it's like the. Oh, my goodness. You know what? I have this as a digital thing. All right. Yes. So this is the call sheet for. It says day 2.5 of 5.5.

[Angela Kinsey]

So day two of the pilot.

[Jenna Fischer]

Here's what it says under set dressing. It says that they're gonna need a coat rack, a Homer Simpson doll, an office plant, and a billy bass fish on the wall.

[Angela Kinsey]

I didn't realize the billy bass fish went that far back.

[Jenna Fischer]

It does, I guess. All right, well, listen, since we're giving gifts, I have stuff that people gave me at the stage door for all of you. Angela, I'm gonna start with you. Jackie gifted us the cutest Chicago inspired sweatshirts. She makes these on her Etsy shop. It's called Jacqueline Louise, Please. She made you a Chicago deep dish pizza sweatshirt.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, deep dish pizza sounds really good right now.

[Jenna Fischer]

She made me a Chicago hot dog. I loved the Chicago hot dogs when I was there. So I'm very excited that she gave me the hot dog one. And in her note, she said, quote, I knew not to give you the deep dish one, because nothing compares to emos. So there you go, lady. Also, Stephanie C. Made us each keychains. So here's the story. She told me that she had sent some to us way back when we were at Earwolf. She asked me if we got them. She said it was around the time we were transitioning, and she was worried they got lost in the move, so she was hand delivering new ones to us. Stephanie, I have to tell you something. When I finally unwrapped these, we did get your first set of keychains. And now we all have two keychains from you.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Yay.

[Jenna Fischer]

And we love them. Mine has a little engraved quote on it that says, what one man can do, another can do.

[Angela Kinsey]

I love it. Mine says, lady. Thanks for all the laughs. I hope to meet you in real life someday, so you will chat me up like we're old friends. Oh, I love it.

[Jenna Fischer]

That's so great. I also got some gifts from Ben and Sarah. They have a company called Just Be. That's B, E, E. And they gifted Angela. You. I have a candle. It smells so good. And, Sam and Cassie, you each get a little diffuser. One of them is white birch, and one of them is peony and mahogany. Do you guys have a choice? Cassie, which one do you want?

[Cassie Jerkins]

I'll go white birch. Sorry, Sam.

[Angela Kinsey]

She's closest to the mic. Sam, she gets to pick it.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Oh, it smells so good.

[Jenna Fischer]

And I also have some treats. I had to bring in some Garrett's popcorn for all of us. You guys know about Garrett's popcorn, right?

[Cassie Jerkins]

No.

[Angela Kinsey]

No.

[Jenna Fischer]

What?

[Angela Kinsey]

We don't. I'm not making it up.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, my gosh.

[Sam]

Yeah, I know Garrett's popcorn.

[Guest or Fan]

I love Garrett's popcorn.

[Jenna Fischer]

What? Thank you.

[Sam]

It is the perfect mixture of sweet and salty.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. This is it. Thank you. Thank you so much.

[Sam]

My pleasure.

[Angela Kinsey]

Jenna feels so validated. Cassie and I were like, nope.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay. They're famous for their, like, caramel corn, their cheese popcorn, their regular popcorn. But the Chicago mix is where you mix the cheese and the caramel together.

[Jim McDermott]

What?

[Jenna Fischer]

That's the one that I became slightly obsessed with. And that's one I brought back for you guys.

[Angela Kinsey]

Cheese.

[Cassie Jerkins]

And I can't wait to try.

[Jenna Fischer]

Don't worry.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

Also, this gal from Germany brought us all German chocolates. She brought them all the way to Chicago, but she didn't sign her name on the card. But here's what she did write. Quote, dear Office Ladies team, you've been good this year, so German Christmas came early. Signed Belchnickel, who, by the way, is not a thing in Germany.

[Angela Kinsey]

Lol. All right, well, I have a few things I wanted to share, too. First of all, from the convention, I wanted to read a card that we got, and it's addressed to Angela, Jenna, Cassie, and Sam. And it's from Rachel N. And here's what she had to say. Angela, Jenna, Sam, and Cassie, thank you all for the Office Ladies podcast. You're creating such a fun and interesting show that brightens up my day as well as countless others. I originally started listening because I'm a big fan of the Office, plus a huge sucker for anything behind the scenes. I started off a fan of the show and have since become an even bigger fan of you all. It's so cool getting to hear from so many of the cast and crew members and getting to know you all as human beings in such a relaxed and down to earth manner. This podcast has brought the show home. It's so evident how much of a family you all are. Your on screen chemistry was always incredible, but your real life chemistry is refreshing. I know nothing about creating a podcast, but there has to be so much work going into it. From all of you, thank you for putting in the time and energy as well as your hearts and souls. Listening always boosts my mood. Rachel.

[Jenna Fischer]

Thanks, Rachel.

[Angela Kinsey]

Isn't that a great card?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, that's really sweet.

[Angela Kinsey]

I just love that I got a.

[Jenna Fischer]

Lot of cards and notes from people as well and it was really sweet. They would say, I didn't want to forget what I wanted to tell you. I read them all and they just. They were really touching.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. Well, we also got a lot of gifts at the convention. I'm gonna list a few, like these napkins with stitching that say Cassie Sass. What? What's up, Sam? You got some Sam Sass. And then also Jenna Sarah from Gig Harbor, Washington made us the most adorable crochet dolls of our the office characters. She also said if she were asked the call sheet questions, her answer for tell us a place you've been to that you absolutely loved. She would tell us to go to Monteverde in Costa Rica. She said there is a hummingbird gallery with dozens of feeders and hundreds of hummingbirds gather there. I looked it up and oh my God, I wanna go.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Wow.

[Jenna Fischer]

Great.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

And then from my cookbook tour, I have to share with you, lady. I met a gal named Leah. She's so talented and she made us these gorgeous necklaces. On her card she said, and I quote, office ladies has been my happy place for years. Isn't that so sweet?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

I also have lots of other gifts and cards from the convention and I have a whole box for you, Jenna.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, thank you. Thank you everybody. I absolutely loved my stage door meet and greets. It sounds like you guys had a great time at the convention and Angela on your cookbook tour.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, before we wrap up here, I wanna give a few shout outs. We all do to everyone we met at the convention. It's such a big event and it really wouldn't be possible without the amazing people that work and volunte so special. Shout out to them. To the people at my booth, Kat and Betty Jean, to Arnold for organizing the convention and to Randy. She sent me so many pictures. Thank you, Randy.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Yeah. Everyone was so cool and kind. And I actually interviewed Betty Jean, who Angela mentioned earlier she used to cosplay as Pam. Here's her sharing her experience as a volunteer.

[Betty Jean]

My name is Betty Jean. I'm from Brooklyn, New York.

[Jenna Fischer]

Great.

[Cassie Jerkins]

And how long have you been volunteering for the office convention?

[Betty Jean]

This is my second year volunteering. I've attended all four. The first two I was cosplaying as Pam and then I just got a glimpse of all of the love and labor that goes into the convention behind the scenes. And I was delighted to find out that they were open for volunteers. So it's been the greatest volunteer gig of my life.

[Cassie Jerkins]

That's awesome. So what is it like being a volunteer?

[Betty Jean]

I mean, it really boils down to going where you're needed. You never know what's going to happen from you to want might get laced handling admissions. You might be dealing with merchandise, you might be welcoming vendors, you might be a celebrity handler. And helping hold space for really amazing interactions between fans and the cast and crew that they came to meet. So you never know. There's never a dull moment. But I've gotten so many stories out of this. I'm a minister by trade, so I'm constantly writing stories into sermons, including about humor affecting our lives.

[Jenna Fischer]

Life.

[Betty Jean]

And I can't even believe just the thousands of stories that I've gotten to hear at this convention. Fans pouring their heart out to the cast and crew themselves about how the show has changed their lives, how it's had, you know, a decades long impact on them. So this is the stuff I live for. And now being able to pay it forward for other fans and help create the space, it's amazing.

[Angela Kinsey]

Ah, isn't that special?

[Jenna Fischer]

I love what she said about collecting stories as a minister. I think that's so cool. I just love that she volunteers. Did you know that theater ushers are also volunteers?

[Angela Kinsey]

No, I didn't know that.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes, most theater ushers, that's a volunteer thing and they do that in exchange for getting to see the plays and musicals for free.

[Angela Kinsey]

I would have done that for sure.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. So everybody be nice to your ushers.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, they're volunteering.

[Jenna Fischer]

Exactly. And put your phones away so that they don't have to crack down.

[Angela Kinsey]

For sure. Well, before we go, Cassie, I know there was one last thing that you wanted to share with us and I'm actually so curious about it. You hinted at it.

[Guest or Fan]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

About it to me and I. So go ahead.

[Cassie Jerkins]

It was like my favorite question that I always asked at the end of every interview. And it was Scott's Tots. Do you watch it or skip it?

[Jenna Fischer]

So many people tell me they skip it.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, we did such a great breakdown of it too, with BJ Novak. I know, I know. Well, what did people say?

[Cassie Jerkins]

Yeah, so all the responses were so different. So I made, like, a little compilation. And here it is, Scott's Tots. Do you watch it or skip it? It's the only episode I skip.

[Jenna Fischer]

I definitely watch it. It's like one of the funniest episodes. How could you not watch it?

[Guest or Fan]

You know, it completely depends on the mood, but I'm gonna say skip.

[Angela Kinsey]

Sometimes I skip it, but other times I don't feel.

[Jenna Fischer]

Because Stanley's reaction to that whole thing is just beyond.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's so funny. Oh, no, I watched. It's not.

[Jim McDermott]

That is a painful episode to watch.

[Angela Kinsey]

It is hard to watch.

[Jim McDermott]

It is hard to watch.

[Angela Kinsey]

I watch it, but I cringe.

[Cassie Jerkins]

And you.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, I've watched it.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Watch it.

[Angela Kinsey]

Watch it. You never skip an episode, even if you're, like, cringing.

[Jenna Fischer]

You're like, oh, Michael, why?

[Cassie Jerkins]

Oh, I watch it.

[Guest or Fan]

I know.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, there's a cringe factor for sure. But it's like, you know, that's just part of it. Both I watch it and skip it.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Depends on your mood.

[Angela Kinsey]

Depends on the day.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yep, I definitely watch it.

[Cassie Jerkins]

It's like one of the funniest episodes.

[Angela Kinsey]

How could you not watch it?

[Jenna Fischer]

In between?

[Angela Kinsey]

In between. Depends on the mood.

[Guest or Fan]

Watch it.

[Angela Kinsey]

But it's cringy. I watch it and I laugh.

[Jenna Fischer]

I think it's pretty funny.

[Angela Kinsey]

I watch everything.

[Jim McDermott]

You can't be a fan and skip anything.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay?

[Jim McDermott]

That's just how it is.

[Ryan (Dwight Cosplayer)]

You gotta get through it.

[Jenna Fischer]

Watch, obviously, in my Scott Stotts T shirt.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, love it.

[Jenna Fischer]

So it sounds like more watchits than skips it.

[Angela Kinsey]

I think I relate more to the people that are like, it depends on the day. Well, a big thank you to everyone who showed up to meet us and shared with us about their love of the office and office ladies. I really love and treasure this community of folks so much.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. Thank you. And thank you, Jim McDermott, for talking to Cassie and sharing about your experience of working as a set dresser. And just hello right back at you. And also thank you to everyone who waited at the stage door after Ashland Avenue. You were all so polite and patient and kind. When I would go to take a selfie with someone, all the other people, they would, like, duck down and get out of the way to make it a good. It was like, it's what you're talking about. It's just like a community of good folks. It was an honor to speak with all of you, so thank you. And in fact, as a way to say thank you for all of your support, Angela and I want to do an Office Ladies merch giveaway. Angela, tell everybody how it's going to work.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes, we appreciate you all so much and we thought it'd be really fun to start doing some merch giveaways. Our first one is going to be a holiday merch box dropping in December. We're going to give away five boxes of goodies.

[Jenna Fischer]

So five different people are going to get one of these merch giveaway boxes.

[Angela Kinsey]

That's right. We're going to announce it on our Instagram Office Ladies pod when it goes live. So be on the lookout for all the details there. Well, there you go. That is our fan convention and stage door episode. Thank you, Cassie, for compiling all those audio clips and traveling with me to New Jersey.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Oh, my goodness.

[Angela Kinsey]

Always have New Jersey.

[Cassie Jerkins]

We'll always have New Jersey.

[Angela Kinsey]

All right, you guys have a great week.

[Jenna Fischer]

See you later. Thank you for listening to Office Ladies.

[Angela Kinsey]

Office Ladies is a presentation of Odyssey and is produced by Jenna Fisher and Angela Kinsey.

[Jenna Fischer]

Our executive producer is Cassie Jerkins, our audio engineer is Sam Kiefer, and our associate producer is Ainslie Bubaco.

[Angela Kinsey]

Odyssey's executive producer is Leah Rees Dennis.

[Jenna Fischer]

Office Ladies was mixed and mastered by Bill Schultz.

[Angela Kinsey]

Our theme song is Rubber Tree by Creed Bratton.

[Jenna Fischer]

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