Friday Chit Chat 5 with Colin Anderson

Summary

Episode Title: Friday Chit Chat 5 with Colin Anderson
Hosts: Jenna Fischer and Angela Kinsey
Guest: Colin Anderson
Release Date: July 11, 2025
Podcast: Office Ladies

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1. Introduction and Welcome (01:54 - 02:11)

In this episode, Jenna Fischer and Angela Kinsey welcome their guest, Colin Anderson, a former colleague from Earwolf.

• Jenna Fischer: "Colin's visiting and we have forced him to come in the studio and be on mic with you today."
• Colin Anderson: "Yeah, I hate being on microphone. I like listening to podcasts, watching podcasts, not talking on podcasts."

2. The Office Illustrations and Artistic Tributes (02:11 - 05:05)

Angela excitedly discusses a New Yorker article titled "Why do we still love the Office?" which features an illustration by Max Dalton. She appreciates how the artwork spotlights Pam and Angela’s characters, including personal touches like Angela's cat.

• Angela Kinsey: "I loved it because right front and center are Pam and Angela. Angela even has one of her cats."

Angela shares her experience reaching out to Max Dalton on Instagram to obtain a personal copy of the illustration, highlighting his generosity.

• Angela Kinsey: "I DM'd him on Instagram. And I said, is there any way I can get a copy of this drawing? He sent me two copies with a heartfelt note."

Jenna Fischer adds that Max detoxifies thrifted paintings by integrating "The Office" characters, such as placing a stapler in Jell-O within a Last Supper-themed artwork.

• Jenna Fischer: "He took some thrifted painting of the Last Supper and he painted the Office into it."

Notable Quote:

• Angela Kinsey [03:28]: "And he sent me this note. He said, dear Angela, here's two copies of my illustration of the Office... Thanks to you, Jenna, and the rest of the cast for all the hilarious moments. Love, Max."

3. Mustard Wine and Artist Tyler Turnbull (05:10 - 05:46)

The conversation shifts to a humorous discovery of "Mustard Wine" by Grey Poupon. Angela mentions that Grey Poupon reached out to them, but she misplaced the message.

• Angela Kinsey: "Grey Poupon reached out to us to send us their mustard wine. And I never saw the DM and you missed it."

Cassie Jerkins clarifies the artist's name connected to this quirky product.

• Cassie Jerkins: "Jenna, that guy's name is Tyler Turnbull."

Notable Quote:

• Angela Kinsey [05:46]: "We'll try your mustard wine."

4. Colin's Kidney Stone Story and Roller Coaster Study (05:44 - 22:46)

Colin opens up about suffering from a kidney stone, leading to an in-depth discussion about unconventional methods to pass it. Jenna shares an article suggesting that riding the "Big Thunder Mountain Railroad" roller coaster at Disneyland can aid in passing kidney stones.

• Jenna Fischer [07:05]: "They pass their kidney stones?"

The hosts delve into the details of the study, noting a 70% success rate when sitting in the back car due to the ride's twists and turns.

• Jenna Fischer [09:08]: "They have a 70% success rate."

Colin humorously considers the idea but remains skeptical. The discussion touches on traditional medical treatments, such as medication and acupuncture, and the importance of consulting healthcare professionals.

Notable Quotes:

• Angela Kinsey [07:08]: "Is it something about how it twists and turns or something?"
• Colin Anderson [09:18]: "Sounds like a great doctor's day out, right? To convince you at university that you should go to Disneyland and just ride."

5. Self-Care, Stretching, and Plantar Fasciitis (14:36 - 17:22)

Shifting from medical concerns, the conversation moves to self-care and physical wellness. Angela discusses her improvement in managing plantar fasciitis using an incline board to stretch her calf muscles. She shares how she incorporated this routine into her household.

• Angela Kinsey [15:21]: "I can now stand on it without at least the first setting. Right. Without any pain."

Jenna relates by sharing her experiences with vertigo and acupuncture, highlighting alternative health practices and their benefits.

• Jenna Fischer [13:18]: "I'm also right now getting acupuncture for my hot flashes. And it's working."

Angela demonstrates a yoga pose live on the podcast, showcasing her progress and encouraging listeners to engage in physical wellness activities.

Notable Quotes:

• Angela Kinsey [16:18]: "I can tell you."
• Jenna Fischer [15:33]: "This has been a goal of Angela's for a really long time."

6. Selfies and Photography Tips (17:22 - 21:28)

The hosts transition into a light-hearted segment about improving selfie techniques. They discuss common mistakes, such as not looking directly into the camera lens, and explore various methods to enhance photo quality.

• Angela Kinsey [19:11]: "I want to try that."

Jenna shares anecdotes about past photography experiences, emphasizing the evolution of selfies from disposable cameras to modern smartphones.

• Jenna Fischer [21:15]: "I never did one with a disposable camera. It was too precious, the film."

Colin contributes by discussing smartphone camera settings and the challenges of perfecting the selfie angle.

• Colin Anderson [20:14]: "You don't know if you've got yourself."

Notable Quotes:

• Angela Kinsey [19:11]: "What?"
• Jenna Fischer [19:02]: "Have you seen the one about, like, how to get a great photo?"

7. Conclusion and Farewell (22:00 - 22:58)

As the episode wraps up, the hosts humorously revisit Colin’s kidney stone situation, encouraging him to try the roller coaster method. They joke about potential side effects and share supportive words before signing off.

• Jenna Fischer [22:55]: "Have a good weekend."
• Angela Kinsey [22:58]: "See ya."

Notable Quote:

• Colin Anderson [22:17]: "But would this be better on a Disneyland ride?"

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Final Thoughts

Throughout the episode, Jenna Fischer and Angela Kinsey blend humor with genuine advice, creating an engaging and relatable conversation. From discussing artistic tributes to "The Office" and unconventional health remedies, to sharing personal wellness routines and photography tips, the hosts offer a well-rounded and entertaining listen. Colin Anderson's candid discussion about his kidney stone adds depth, while the light-hearted segments on selfies and stretching ensure the episode remains both informative and enjoyable for listeners.

Additional Notable Quotes:

• Colin Anderson [10:03]: "When you pass a kidney stone, where does it come out?"
• Jenna Fischer [10:08]: "That's why it's so painful."
• Angela Kinsey [16:52]: "It's harder without shoes."
• Angela Kinsey [20:54]: "People are really like, that's a lot good at that stuff."

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This comprehensive summary captures the essence of the Friday Chit Chat 5 with Colin Anderson episode, highlighting key discussions, insights, and humorous exchanges. Whether you're a longtime fan or a new listener, this overview provides a clear snapshot of the engaging content covered in this episode.

Transcript

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[Sam Kieffer]

Hello.

[Jenna Fischer]

Welcome to another Friday chitchat.

[Angela Kinsey]

Hi. We have a fun little guest in the studio with us. So we have Sam, we have Cassie, and then we have Colin, who worked with us at Earwolf. Colin, say hi.

[Colin]

Hey.

[Jenna Fischer]

Colin's visiting and we have forced him to come in the studio and be on mic with you today.

[Colin]

Yeah, I hate being on microphone. I like listening to podcasts, watching podcasts, not talking on podcasts.

[Angela Kinsey]

You're going to do just fine.

[Sam Kieffer]

Great.

[Jenna Fischer]

Angela, you said you have a share.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, I do. Okay, so a while back, there was an article in the New Yorker and it was called why do we still love the Office? And it had an illustration for the Article. It's of everyone in the bullpen and Jenna. I loved it because right front and center are Pam and Angela. Angela even has one of her cats. I'm going to put this in our stories. Do you see that?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay. Well, I just kind of became obsessed with it because, I mean, our two characters are the front two characters, and that so rarely happens for us in any kind of artwork that's done for the Office. So I found the artist, and his name is Max Dalton, and he does a lot of illustrations. And I DM'd him on Instagram. And I said, is there any way I can get a copy of this drawing? I love it so much. And he was like, absolutely. And he sent me this note. He said, dear Angela, here's two copies of my illustration of the Office, because I asked if I could have one for you too.

[Jenna Fischer]

Stop it.

[Angela Kinsey]

And he said, as you know, the illustration was made only for an article in the New Yorker, so it's unfortunately quite small. And then he put in parentheses, woulda. That's what she said. Apply here. And then he wrote on to say, I hope that's not too disappointing. Thanks to you, Jenna, and the rest of the cast for all the hilarious moments. Love, Max. Oh, my gosh, yes. And now you and I each have one.

[Jenna Fischer]

I love that lady. That is so sweet.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's so beautiful. I love his drawing. I just think it captures everything. And you even have prison mic on the computer screen, so I'll share that in my stories. But I just thought I had to give Max a thank you here on the podcast, because that was so wonderful of him.

[Jenna Fischer]

Do you know about the artist that goes to thrift stores and buys paintings and then he, like, paints people into them? Oh, like, he repurposes thrift art. Okay, so he took some thrifted painting of the Last Supper and he painted the office into it. So, like, on the table, there's like, a stapler in jello. But then all of our characters are in the painting. And I saw his reel as he was doing it, and I made a comment where I said, oh, my gosh, I would love this. This is amazing. And he, I guess, wrote me back and said, you can have it, but I guess I didn't see his message in time, and he ended up selling it.

[Sam Kieffer]

Aww, bummer.

[Jenna Fischer]

But his stuff is really cool. It's really fun.

[Angela Kinsey]

This in nowhere is of the same magnitude of that really cool piece of art passing you by.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

But do you guys remember when I found out that there's a Mustard wine by Grey Poupon.

[Sam Kieffer]

Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's a long time ago for podcast listeners. Well, I guess Grey Poupon reached out to us to send us their mustard wine. And I never saw the dm and you missed it. And now I can't find it. I don't know where. It's, like, buried in the DMs.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Jenna, that guy's name is Tyler Turnbull.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, thank you, Sam.

[Angela Kinsey]

Tyler Turnbull, Artist Tyler Turnbull. Okay, we'll share about him in our stories.

[Sam Kieffer]

Yeah, and I hope Grey Poupon reaches back out to you.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, Grey Poupon, it's not too late.

[Sam Kieffer]

Yeah, come back over.

[Angela Kinsey]

We'll try your mustard wine.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, on this same subject, you know, after Lindsay Broad was on our podcast and she talked about Trufru and how much she loves the chocolate covered fruit from True fru. Yeah, they sent her a whole box of trufrew.

[Angela Kinsey]

That's awesome.

[Jenna Fischer]

She is so delighted. I was texting with her about it. She just texted me a photo of a giant box of Trufrou. And I was like, what is happening? And how did this happen? How did this occur?

[Angela Kinsey]

This is a really hard segue. But as you were saying that, all I could think of is like, there's gotta be something, Colin, you can take to help pass your kidney.

[Sam Kieffer]

Oh, no.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, no.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Some sort of chocolate covered fruit to help him pass our kidney stone.

[Sam Kieffer]

I could think.

[Angela Kinsey]

I was like, keep it in mustard. We're actually surprised you made it in today. I mean, Jenna and I have been texting you and you shared with us and you said it's okay to talk about it.

[Colin]

Absolutely, yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

You have a kidney stone.

[Colin]

Yeah. We were meant to be meeting Monday and I called in sick from urgent care.

[Jenna Fischer]

I know, but I sent you an article, Colin, and this is true. Guys, this is not, like, Internet nonsense. Like, this isn't like some reel on the gram. This is a real article where they found that people with kidney stones, if they ride the roller coaster. Big Thunder Mountain Railroad.

[Sam Kieffer]

What?

[Jenna Fischer]

They pass their kidney stones?

[Angela Kinsey]

Is it something about how it twists and turns or something?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. Yes, it is.

[Sam Kieffer]

Colin, did you go to Disneyland yesterday?

[Colin]

I didn't. I wondered if I could, like, claim it back on my healthcare, though. Seemed like it'd be an excellent, like, deduction.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Yeah. Medically speaking. You need to go.

[Sam Kieffer]

Yeah. Do you have an HSA card?

[Angela Kinsey]

Are you in pain?

[Colin]

Yeah, a little bit. I just took some more painkillers. I'm sorry, but it seems to, like, come and go, and it's particularly bad overnight because I'm one of those tornado sleepers that just keeps spinning around.

[Sam Kieffer]

I'm like that too.

[Colin]

And really what I need to do is just lay still.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, no.

[Sam Kieffer]

You need to get a cat and then the cat will sleep on you and then you can't turn.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Cassie, that's your answer to everything.

[Colin]

And that's deductible, right?

[Sam Kieffer]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Colin, I pulled up the article. I want everyone to know this information and I really want to go to Disneyland with you. It says that it has a 70% success rate. But not every roller coaster works. That in particular, the Big Thunder Mountain Railroad is the most successful. This group of doctors, they took a 3D model of a hollow kidney containing three kidney stones on the ride in a backpack 20 times. And when they sat in the very last car of the railroad, like you have to sit in the last. Don't sit in the front. If you sit in the back, there's a 64% passage rate. If you sit in the front, there's only a 16% success rate. But they expanded their study and they used even more kidney models. And the second time they did it, when they sat in the back, it was a 70% success rate. They said in all, we used 174 kidney stones of varying shapes, sizes and weights to see if each model worked on the same ride. And Big Thunder Mountain Railroad was the only one that worked. They tried Space Mountain and Aerosmith's Rock and Roller Coaster, but those failed. He said it has something to do with the twists and turns. And he said if you have a kidney stone but are otherwise healthy and meet the requirements of the ride, you should try it.

[Colin]

Sounds like a great doctor's day out, right? To convince you at university that you should go to Disneyland and just ride.

[Jenna Fischer]

This roller coaster how many times?

[Colin]

And we'll need to try them all as well just to make sure it works.

[Sam Kieffer]

Also, the Aerosmith one is in Orlando, so they got the budget to fly to Florida to test.

[Jenna Fischer]

I think they actually only tested this in Florida. So I do wonder. Colin, you are s out of luck there. I mean, I think Big Thunder Mountain Railroad, isn't that the same in Disney World and Disneyland?

[Sam Kieffer]

Unless humidity is a factor. Colin, we need you to go to science.

[Angela Kinsey]

I have a question that's going to make me sound really dumb. When you pass a kidney stone.

[Jenna Fischer]

Stone. Not the whole kidney.

[Angela Kinsey]

Not the whole kidney. When you pass a kidney stone. I knew stone.

[Sam Kieffer]

I know, I know.

[Angela Kinsey]

When you pass a kidney stone, where does it come out?

[Jenna Fischer]

Your pee hole.

[Colin]

You pee it out.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, God.

[Jenna Fischer]

That's why it's so painful.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Where did you think it came out?

[Angela Kinsey]

I didn't know if you pooped it or peed it. I wasn't sure.

[Sam Kieffer]

Okay.

[Colin]

They give you a little sieve to catch it so that they can analyze what caused it.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Colin]

So you're meant to pee into a sieve for up to like a month.

[Angela Kinsey]

Like a sock sieve. Like, what is a sieve?

[Colin]

Coffee filter.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, wow.

[Cassie Jerkins]

Like if you're panning for gold.

[Angela Kinsey]

Right. Got it. So here you are. It's incredibly painful. You have to pee that out and catch it all at the same time.

[Jenna Fischer]

I have a friend who routinely gets kidney stones.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, no.

[Jenna Fischer]

He's the one who told me about the big Thunder Mountain railroad thing. They have a thing where they can go in and zap them, but they'll only zap it if it's a certain size. Like if it's too big to pass.

[Colin]

And I just want one of the ways they go into zap it is.

[Sam Kieffer]

Do they go in through your penis hole?

[Jenna Fischer]

So you don't. I wonder, don't you just wanna zap it? But I guess maybe you don't.

[Colin]

They can also hit it with vibrations from somewhere and break it up that way.

[Jenna Fischer]

It all sounds awful. I guess you can be genetically predisposed, but also there's some diet stuff that can contribute as well.

[Colin]

And what we were talking about AI earlier during the break. And so I was going, obviously went straight to AI for like, why did I get these kidney stones?

[Jenna Fischer]

What did it say?

[Colin]

Well, I. I just moved into a new place about a month ago with a grapefruit tree. And I've been juicing grapefruit for breakfast every day for the last month. And AI says grapefruit can cause it.

[Jenna Fischer]

I heard that.

[Colin]

My doctor. Not convinced by that.

[Angela Kinsey]

Not convinced.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay. Your doctor's not convinced by the AI grapefruit diagnosis or the roller coaster cure.

[Colin]

He was more than a roller coaster. Well, he's called Gary.

[Sam Kieffer]

Gary. Which for a start, the first time he's called Gary.

[Colin]

First time I've had a Dr. Gary.

[Angela Kinsey]

Gary is the name of a guy that took me on a swamp tour in Louisiana. It's true.

[Sam Kieffer]

I feel like that Gary would be pro Big Thunder Mountain, though.

[Angela Kinsey]

100%.

[Colin]

So he thought, he agreed that there was exercises you could do and movements or dances that might help shake it out. So he was like, the roller coaster might work in that theory.

[Angela Kinsey]

That or maybe you need to go to a dancer size class.

[Colin]

Or maybe you can't really picture me at a dancer size Class, though, right?

[Jenna Fischer]

I sometimes get vertigo, and there's, like, this maneuver that you can do to, like, reset the crystal in your ear or something.

[Angela Kinsey]

My mom gets horrible vertigo, and we've had to, like, help her drop her head off the back of a bed. One time we were in a hotel at a family reunion. And roll her head.

[Sam Kieffer]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Lee does it for me. We have this little video that we have saved, and it shows him how you lay your head, like you said, with coming off the bed. And then you, like, rotate the head in this certain way. And then the crystal goes. I don't know about this crystal, but I'm also right now getting acupuncture for my hot flashes. And it's working. And I don't understand that either. I asked the doctor. I'm like, what is it doing exactly? And she said, it's like it's unblocking your Qi.

[Sam Kieffer]

I get acupuncture every month for, like, the past four or five years.

[Angela Kinsey]

Wow.

[Sam Kieffer]

In that time, I've only been sick maybe twice.

[Jenna Fischer]

So do you just get general acupuncture?

[Sam Kieffer]

Most of the time I'm doing it for my back because I just like so many people on computers and phones. So, yeah, they sometimes do cupping, and then they'll just stick, like, a ton of needles. And then my acupuncturist goes, good night, and turns off the lights and leaves for an hour.

[Colin]

And you get a little nap. Oh, that's really nice.

[Sam Kieffer]

That's really nice. I can't look at a phone. Cause I got needles in my back. Yeah, I love it. Yeah. But, yeah. I feel like so many people. I know, they go into it being like, is this gonna work? And then they come out being like, it works. I don't know how, but it's not.

[Jenna Fischer]

I did not think it was gonna work. And so if believing in it is part of what makes it work, then I wasn't not on board, you know, when I went in. So I was fully skeptical. And within two sessions, almost all my hot flashes were gone. But I have to keep up with it. I have to go every week. I tried spacing it out, and I can go every other. But not much longer. Yeah, but it's, like, amazing. The amazing relief. Angela. Sam, this has clearly become the medical episode. Anything you want to talk about?

[Cassie Jerkins]

No.

[Sam Kieffer]

No.

[Cassie Jerkins]

I'm ready for kidding, Sam.

[Jenna Fischer]

How's your plantar fasciitis, Angela?

[Angela Kinsey]

A lot better. I got an incline board that I stand on. I put it at the kitchen counter. It's a little piece of wood I feel like you could make this if you were handy, but I bought one, and I stand on it, and it stretches out your entire calf muscle, because that's what leads to your plantar fasciitis. And it's got, like, three settings. You can make it more and more inclined. And now Josh and the kids, we all stand on it. And kind of one of my favorite things is when people come over and they're like, what's this thing? Because it's right at the edge of the kitchen counter. And I'm like, it's an incline board. Stand on it. It stretches your calves. And people that stand on it who clearly haven't stretched their calf in a long time, they stand on it and.

[Sam Kieffer]

They go like, oh, God.

[Angela Kinsey]

And I can now stand on it without at least the first setting. Right. Without any pain.

[Jenna Fischer]

That's awesome. How are you doing with touching your toes?

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, pretty good. Look.

[Jenna Fischer]

This has been a goal of Angela's for a really long time.

[Sam Kieffer]

Hey, wait.

[Jenna Fischer]

But when you stand up and then bend over and touch your toes, this was your goal. This was, like, literally your goal this year.

[Sam Kieffer]

She's doing it.

[Angela Kinsey]

I can tell you.

[Jenna Fischer]

You did it, ladies.

[Sam Kieffer]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

The backs of your legs have just always been really tight.

[Angela Kinsey]

Really tight.

[Jenna Fischer]

I think it's from some of your tennis, because you do, like, these little sprints when you play tennis.

[Angela Kinsey]

I also stretch a lot more now. Before tennis, I do a lot of squats, and I do calf stretches, and I stretch, like, my thighs.

[Ainslie Bubbaco]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

And then. Oh, you know what? It's such a great stretch. Okay. So I don't know if you guys can do this, but as soon as you start doing it, it gets easier and easier.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay.

[Angela Kinsey]

So what I'm basically just gonna do is go completely into a squat on the ground and then just sit there and hold it.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay.

[Angela Kinsey]

So it's really good.

[Sam Kieffer]

It's an active stretch for the front.

[Angela Kinsey]

Of your quads and your hips. Yes, it's really good for your hips.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. We do this in yoga. I mean, I think I'm gonna see what you're about to do. Okay. She's getting.

[Angela Kinsey]

Can you see me?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yep. Oh, yeah. That's a yoga pose. Yeah, it has a name.

[Angela Kinsey]

So I just sit like that. And it's easier when you have shoes on. When you don't have shoes on, it's harder.

[Jenna Fischer]

It's harder without shoes.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh.

[Sam Kieffer]

Oh. You keep your heels on the ground.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. Your heels have to stay on the ground.

[Jenna Fischer]

I can't do it with my heels on the ground.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. Yeah, I can do it with my.

[Sam Kieffer]

Heels on the ground.

[Angela Kinsey]

I can do it with my heels on the ground now. Barefoot.

[Jenna Fischer]

Nice lady. You had the goal this year as part of your New Year's resolution that you shared with me that it was gonna be the year of touching your toes. Look at you.

[Angela Kinsey]

Look at me go.

[Jenna Fischer]

Look at you go.

[Angela Kinsey]

Look at me go. You know what my next one is?

[Jenna Fischer]

What?

[Angela Kinsey]

Probably because I've been complaining about my turkey neck.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay.

[Angela Kinsey]

So my algorithm on my phone knows now, and I constantly get these women of a certain age who are saying, you tired of that turkey neck? It's time to do your mouth stretches. And I signed up. No, you didn't. Because somebody said, respond 28 to get my. All my steps. And it's like, things like this. It's like. And you do this thing, and it's going to clear up my turkey neck.

[Jenna Fischer]

I cannot believe that you haven't told me this.

[Angela Kinsey]

I did it last night. I had had a glass of wine.

[Sam Kieffer]

I feel like that's encouraged.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay.

[Angela Kinsey]

It says, I'm going to reclaim my jawline.

[Jenna Fischer]

I don't think you are. Because I saw these, like, a year ago, and I was like, I'm going to start doing them.

[Angela Kinsey]

Doing it.

[Jenna Fischer]

I did one day of it. My jaw hurts so bad.

[Angela Kinsey]

That probably means you're activating the muscle.

[Jenna Fischer]

I gave it up.

[Angela Kinsey]

I think what's gonna happen is I'm either gonna have an amazing jawline or I'm gonna get a real thick neck.

[Sam Kieffer]

I think you're gonna get both.

[Jenna Fischer]

Maybe a thick, tight neck.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's gonna be like something like, what's his face like? I'll be back all neck.

[Colin]

What's the one where, for photos, you meant to put, like, the tongue on your top of your mouth, and that gives you the jawline. I don't know which one it is, but, like, the selfie hack.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, yeah, I saw that.

[Angela Kinsey]

I saw that.

[Jenna Fischer]

Have you seen the one about, like, how to get a great photo? Like, a great candid photo is where you, like, you all link arms and then you sort of, like, wobble forward.

[Angela Kinsey]

What?

[Jenna Fischer]

And you see all these people doing that online, and then you see the photo they got.

[Angela Kinsey]

I want to try that.

[Colin]

Is that just because everyone starts giggling? It's like a nice, natural smile.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes, exactly. Well, we have had people comment that I never look at the camera lens. I don't think you do either. I think Sam and Cassie look at the right dot, and you and I look at the somewhere else lady.

[Jenna Fischer]

Like when we did our mashup when we did our thing with Pod Meets World and we took a photo, the five of us, a selfie, they are all looking in the camera and you and I are not. And all of the comments are like, we know who's old in this picture because they're not looking in the camera. And then now, like, one person commented recently on a post we did, Angela, someone commented, dear God, teach them how to look at the lens.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, my God. It's really bothering people. I'm going to try. You just have to point it out the next time we take a picture.

[Jenna Fischer]

We'll take a picture today and we'll do our best.

[Sam Kieffer]

Colin, wobbling forward.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. Colin, you also said there's some thing where you flip your phone around now.

[Colin]

Yeah, I mean, I don't know, it's like the tongue on the mouth thing. I know like half of it from an Instagram post and it was just younger people saying, put it to like 0.5 and flip it around. So you're using the front facing camera of the phone, but you don't know.

[Angela Kinsey]

You don't know if you've got yourself.

[Colin]

So you can't see if you're in frame. You have to have the confidence.

[Angela Kinsey]

That's kind of like old school. When we would take selfies with like our disposable cameras.

[Colin]

Well, I guess it's the better camera on that side and it gives you the option of like different zooms. And then I've seen for like the influencers, you can get like a little screen that you stick on the other side of your phone.

[Sam Kieffer]

Oh, so you can see.

[Colin]

So you've got like a monitor and you can see the photo.

[Angela Kinsey]

People are really like, that's a lot good at that stuff.

[Colin]

But it does look nicer, I think the, the lights or something.

[Sam Kieffer]

Because the front lens is better than the selfie lens, which is surprising. You think we take so many selfies, they would design a better lens.

[Jenna Fischer]

But what was the first selfie, though? Because I feel like we didn't come up with like, I don't remember ever in my youth taking a selfie with a camera.

[Angela Kinsey]

I do. I remember we would turn it around and like, just hope for the best.

[Jenna Fischer]

Digital camera. Yeah, but not like film. Disposable camera. I never like, I did one with a disposable camera. It was too precious, the film.

[Cassie Jerkins]

In 1839, Robert Cornelius, a Philadelphia chemist and photography enthusiast, took the world's first known photographic selfie.

[Angela Kinsey]

Wow, Sam, there you have it. Googling like crazy over there.

[Sam Kieffer]

Yeah, yeah. I Just knew it off the dome.

[Jenna Fischer]

All right, well, this has been a very interesting Friday chitchat. Colin, I might need you back.

[Sam Kieffer]

Yes, please go to Disneyland, right?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

We're all going to Disneyland.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. And we're gonna pass that stone.

[Angela Kinsey]

I'm sorry, you have to pass that as a.

[Cassie Jerkins]

You're gonna pass it.

[Angela Kinsey]

I'm gonna pass it.

[Colin]

That's the spirit. Dr. Gary says that's not the bit to worry about. The pain is like the blockage beforehand. It's like, you know, when it's still in your kidney and when it's coming down your internal tubes. Well, I mean, we'll see if he's lying to me.

[Angela Kinsey]

Gary.

[Colin]

Dr. Gary. But also, he's like, the kidney stones don't hurt. And it's like, fine if they're just like the nice little round ones, but there's a kind of kidney stone called a staghorn kidney stone. And it's got prongs, it's got, like spikes.

[Sam Kieffer]

Yeah.

[Colin]

Seems like that'd hurt.

[Angela Kinsey]

How could it not hurt, Colin?

[Jenna Fischer]

You're just sitting around just in anticipation of excruciating pain. That is such a mind.

[Colin]

Yeah, but would this be better on a Disneyland ride?

[Sam Kieffer]

I mean, I want to scream on this ride, Colin.

[Colin]

I can have a little photo. Memorizing the moment.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes, exactly. All right, everybody, that was our Friday chit chat.

[Jenna Fischer]

Have a good weekend.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. See ya.

[Jenna Fischer]

Bye.

[Sam Kieffer]

Bye.

[Ainslie Bubbaco]

Thank you for listening to Office Ladies.

[Angela Kinsey]

Office Ladies is a presentation of Odyssey and is produced by Jenna Fisher and Angela Kinsey.

[Ainslie Bubbaco]

Our executive producer is Cassie Jerkins, our.

[Jenna Fischer]

Audio engineer is Sam Kieffer, and our.

[Ainslie Bubbaco]

Associate producer is Ainslie Bubbaco.

[Angela Kinsey]

Odyssey's executive producer producer is Leah Reese Dennis.

[Jenna Fischer]

Office Ladies was mixed and mastered by Bill Schultz.

[Angela Kinsey]

Our theme song is Rubber Tree by Creed Bratton.

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