Friday Chit Chat 7

Summary

Office Ladies – Friday Chit Chat 7 (October 17, 2025)

Hosts: Jenna Fischer & Angela Kinsey
Podcast: Office Ladies

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Episode Overview

This Friday Chit Chat episode is a slice-of-life catch-up featuring Jenna, Angela, and friends Cassie and Sam, as Jenna nears the end of her stay in Chicago for her play "Ashland Avenue." The friends discuss the oddities of living in rentals, read from Angela's soon-to-be-published food journal, share exciting side projects, drop personal updates—including a heartfelt reflection on breast cancer awareness—and recommend recent movies and self-care tips. The tone is warm, deeply personal, and filled with laughter and supportive camaraderie.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Rental Life Quirks and the Comforts of Home

[03:03–06:31]

• Jenna describes her temporary rental's "decor," specifically a set of golden fish on the wall and a problematic kitchen light switch:
  • “In order to turn on the light for the kitchen, it’s by the front door… I repeatedly walk in, and then I walk into the kitchen, and I realize, oh, dang it, the light is back at the front door.” — Jenna [04:46]
• Angela and Jenna swap stories about the small inconveniences and unexpected fun elements when living in new places, like peculiar lamps and substandard cutlery.
• Angela mentions her friend Betsy’s rental in Ireland, featuring a bird-shaped lamp with a lampshade for a head—highlighting how rental homes always come with odd design choices.

2. Angela’s Food Journal Adventure

[06:40–11:01]

• Angela is writing a "Grub Street Diet" piece for NY Magazine to promote her new cookbook.
• The group teases Angela for her "slice of life" journaling style, which devotes several sentences to travel logistics before mentioning any food:
  • “Can I just say one of my favorite parts of the food journal is that it starts with absolutely no description… no food.” — Jenna [08:48]
• Angela shares about Josh (her husband) taking “group A” on Southwest flights and recounts their trip to see Jenna’s play.
• Jenna praises Angela’s writing for its warmth and humor:
  • “It took me on a journey. It made me think about how food connects us with other people… It becomes so much more than that.” — Jenna [09:49]
• Angela mentions her snack-related nicknames: "Snacks Kinsey" and "Hambone".

3. Co-Host Side Projects & Big Announcements

[11:03–13:35]

• Sam reveals the launch of their new podcast "Sweet Tooth," which will debut on Halloween and focuses (tangentially) on the history of candy, especially M&Ms:
  • “At one point, I call a marriage attorney to see if I could legally MARRY M&Ms, like Pee Wee says to…” — Sam [12:09]
  • The podcast promises humor, tangents, and odd deep-dives.
• Cassie is performing in an improv/sketch festival, and also shares they do puppetry for a D&D comedy show:
  • “I'm a quarter Japanese, and I'm part of a comedy group called Asian AF... for the D&D show, there's like a Dungeon Master and each comedian is playing a character. I'm playing a warlock... and I pitched doing a puppet because in college I did a lot of puppetry.” — Cassie [14:12]

4. Pets, Travel, and Advice

[16:09–17:46]

• The crew shares their pet travel stories; Jenna describes flying with her cat Andy, including a dramatic escape at airport security:
  • “I think that the most stressful part for my pets is that when you go through security, you have to remove them from the carrier… One time Andy bolted.” — Jenna [17:18]
• Advice is given regarding pets and vet consultation for travel stress.

5. Slices of Nerd Culture: Magic the Gathering & Movie Shout-Outs

[18:29–21:01]

• Angela brings up a "Dwight" series in Magic the Gathering, prompting a check if Rainn Wilson (Dwight from The Office) is aware.
• Jenna recommends two movies:
  • Code 3: Rainn Wilson’s paramedic comedy-drama—praised for warmth and humor.
    • “It is so funny. But it is so earnest and lovely. It is not cynical. I loved it.” — Jenna [19:06]
  • Broke: Centers on a bronco-riding cowboy, highlighted for its human storytelling and strong acting.
    • “Absolutely... so charming, so human. Beautiful acting.” — Jenna [20:53]

6. Taylor Swift & the Art of 'Winding Down'

[21:08–21:43]

• Discussion of Taylor Swift’s upcoming "ERAS" tour movie and her shared 'wind down' routine with Jenna:
  • “There's a shot of [Taylor Swift]... she's taken off all her makeup and she's like, well, basically, for me to wind down from that performance, I have to watch, like, hours of, like, TV and movies and stuff.” — Jenna [21:14]
• The group jokes about touring together, integrating their unique talents.

7. Jenna’s Breast Cancer Update & Advocacy

[22:05–26:12]

• Jenna reflects on her one-year anniversary of publicly sharing her breast cancer diagnosis, advocating for awareness and early detection:
  • “It was one year ago that I revealed my breast cancer diagnosis to the world... Early detection is why I was able to get treated and why I’m now off in Chicago doing a play and living my best life.” — Jenna [22:05]
• She provides an update on her current health:
  • Finished infusions and port removal; is 20% through a five-year course of tamoxifen with manageable side effects.
  • Recommends weightlifting, acupuncture, and strict sleep for those on tamoxifen.
  • Shares that, emotionally, life post-treatment is complex—always aware of possibility of recurrence.
  • “I am really living my best life. And I feel like the whole experience brought me closer to people and closer to what's important to me in life.” — Jenna [26:12]

8. Upcoming Chit Chat Episode—Listener Involvement!

[26:21–27:15]

• Jenna and Angela announce a future "Chit Chat" episode where listener-suggested topics will serve as the basis for conversation.
  • They invite listeners to submit "slice of life" suggestions, not Office episode ideas, via a dedicated folder (“Chit Chat Ideas”) on the website and a swipe-up link in Instagram stories.

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Notable Quotes (with Timestamps)

• “In order to turn on the light for the kitchen, it’s by the front door… I repeatedly walk in, and then I walk into the kitchen, and I realize, oh, dang it, the light is back at the front door.” — Jenna [04:46]
• “It took me on a journey. It made me think about how food connects us with other people… It becomes so much more than that.” — Jenna [09:49]
• “I'm a quarter Japanese, and I'm part of a comedy group called Asian AF... for the D&D show, there's like a Dungeon Master and each comedian is playing a character. I'm playing a warlock... and I pitched doing a puppet because in college I did a lot of puppetry.” — Cassie [14:12]
• “It is so funny. But it is so earnest and lovely. It is not cynical. I loved it.” — Jenna [19:06]
• “It was one year ago that I revealed my breast cancer diagnosis to the world... Early detection is why I was able to get treated and why I’m now off in Chicago doing a play and living my best life.” — Jenna [22:05]
• “I am really living my best life. And I feel like the whole experience brought me closer to people and closer to what's important to me in life.” — Jenna [26:12]

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Important Segment Timestamps

• [03:03] Jenna’s rental quirks and gold fish decor
• [06:40] Introduction of Angela’s food journal for Grub Street Diet
• [11:03] Sam announces “Sweet Tooth” podcast
• [14:12] Cassie discusses improv, D&D, and puppetry
• [16:09] Pet travel—flying with cats and dogs
• [18:29] Magic the Gathering “Dwight” cards & Rainn Wilson movie “Code 3”
• [20:53] Shoutout to the movie “Broke”
• [21:08] Taylor Swift wind down routine and movie
• [22:05] Jenna’s breast cancer anniversary and wellness update
• [26:21] Announcement of listener-driven Chit Chat episode

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Overall Tone & Takeaways

This episode is full of warmth, humor, and encouragement—true to the "Friday Chit Chat" label. The hosts dive into the little details that make up their real lives off-screen, giving listeners a window into their friendships, anxieties, and everyday delights. The episode also carries an empowering message on the importance of self-care (both mental and physical) and community support in the face of personal challenges.

Engage with the next Chit Chat: Listeners can submit lighthearted, personal, and “slice of life” topics for the next episode, continuing the show’s uniquely interactive and supportive vibe.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

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[B]

Chat time. It's legit chat time. Chitty chit chat, chat.

[C]

Ooh, Angela, Is this our new intro to we had one. We abandoned it.

[D]

We did.

[B]

We did.

[A]

You know what?

[B]

I like the idea that we just cycle in a new one every once in a while. We just in the moment. If someone feels inspired to make up yours today.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

All right.

[C]

Should we get started?

[B]

We should get started. I did want to say this even last time. I didn't comment on it. Jenna, behind you. I don't know.

[A]

They're leaves.

[B]

Are they birds? They're things on the wall.

[E]

They're fish.

[C]

I think they are fish, Sam. Yes, Fish. They are a series of 3D fish. Tiny fish, golden fish. They're all gold, and they are arranged, and they're swimming in a circle. And this is the decor for above.

[B]

The fireplace that you're renting while you're in Chicago.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

Is it cold enough? Have you used the fireplace yet?

[C]

I have not. It is not wood burning.

[E]

Oh, okay.

[C]

But I think it's gas, and I think it could work. But no. It's been unseasonably warm here.

[E]

Oh, really?

[C]

Okay. As people are telling me. But it just turned cool, so I don't know. I'm only here one more week.

[E]

One week.

[B]

Oh, my gosh.

[C]

We're going into our last weekend of the show. Oh, yeah.

[B]

You must have lots of feelings about that.

[C]

I do. I'm very excited to get home to my house and my kids and my life there.

[B]

Right.

[C]

Angela, I left you a message about this, about how, like, when you have quirks, when you're on location. You know this, Angela. You go on location, and you have to live in a place that is not your home that you don't have a lot of control over.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, I remember this one place I lived. The cutlery drove me absolutely bonkers. I hated it. I hated the cutlery. It was such a little thing, but I hated it. The knives didn't really cut anything. It drove me nuts. I got home from that, and I remember just, like, loving my knives and being like, there you are. Little knives that I picked out that I love with all my heart. I didn't even know I loved you so much. Well, here the quirk is the placement of the light switches. They drive me absolutely crazy in order to turn on the light for. For the kitchen.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

It's by the front door.

[D]

What?

[E]

That's the only one?

[C]

Yes, that's the only light for the kitchen. So I repeatedly walk in, and then I walk into the kitchen, and I realize, oh, dang it, the light is.

[B]

Back to the front door.

[C]

And then I have to turn back around. Likewise, once I've lit up the kitchen and I've cooked something and I wanna turn off the lights and, like, maybe sit in front of the TV and watch something while I eat, I have to walk back to the front door. And it's not like it's that far.

[D]

Far.

[C]

It's just odd.

[B]

It's just odd.

[C]

I want the light switch for the kitchen to be by the sink. That's where I want it. And if I lived here, I would call an electrician and I would say, will you please put a light switch to the kitchen? In the kitchen.

[B]

In the kitchen. I love, like, kind of like a new place like that, because there's always.

[A]

Some little delicious treat waiting for you.

[B]

That you didn't think about. Like, my friend. My friend Betsy is. She's got a directing gig in Ireland, right? And so she's got this rental in Ireland right now. She's working on a show there. And we decided to do a little FaceTime catch up. And as she's talking to us, me and all of our tennis gals, we're all looking at her and we're like.

[A]

Is that half of a bird behind you? That's a lamp.

[B]

And she goes, oh, yeah, yeah. I don't know why this. There's a bird thing happening here. And you guys, the feet of the lamp were like the stork. You know, like the feet, like the three prong and then the long, skinny legs and then the poofy butt with all these feathers and then no head.

[C]

Just the lampshade is the head. The light bulb.

[B]

The head is the lampshade. It's just a lampshade.

[C]

Lampshade, yes.

[E]

That's pretty great.

[B]

But, like, what.

[C]

What happened?

[B]

And you have little.

[A]

You have gold fish.

[C]

I have gold fish. And light switches on the switches that I don't love.

[A]

Well, there you go.

[B]

We can't wait for you to come home.

[C]

We're very excited. I'm excited, too. I have a request. Angela, I brought this up before.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

It's something I need.

[A]

It's so.

[B]

You guys, this is so dorky.

[C]

But please read to us from your food journal.

[E]

Ugh, I would love that.

[B]

I have to explain first, you guys. Okay, so Josh and I, you know, we have this cookbook Coming out. You can make this. And as part of it, we're doing all this press and New York magazine reached out to me and to do a piece. It's like a five day food journal for their piece called Grub Street Diet.

[E]

Oh no. Do they know about your journals?

[C]

It pays off.

[E]

Oh God, I'm trembling.

[C]

It's so good.

[B]

It's so good. And I need it.

[C]

I like need a whole. You could write a whole book.

[E]

Yeah, okay. Please go.

[B]

Anyway, Josh and I are dividing up some of these press requests. Cause there's a lot of them. And I'm so appreciative that people are getting excited about the cookbook. But I said, I'll take, take, I'll take the food journal, babe. Okay. So I had to, I had to document like basically my day and what I ate for five days and anyway, in like sort of a journal type, whatever genre. So here we go. I'm just going to read the first day.

[C]

Read the first day.

[B]

This comes out October 24th, by the way. I'll put a link in our stories to it. All right. Tuesday, August 16th, 7:00am Hi. From a Southwest flight from Chicago to Burbank. My husband did the early bird check in thing. We boarded in group A. He gets very excited about boarding in group A. He says it's all about getting that overhead space. And let me tell you, we got a sweet spot for our carry ons. We had a fun but short trip to see my BFF Jenna Fisher in the play Ashland Avenue. It was fantastic. She and the entire cast were amazing. We did, however, stay out way too late last night and I'm a little bit of a zombie this morning. So I realized this is probably an odd time to start a five day food journal, but we're stuck on the tarmac with some kind of plane traffic jam. No WI fi. And I brought my laptop, so I thought, why not get this going.

[C]

Can I stop you right there? Can I stop you right there? Can I just say one of my favorite parts of the food journal is that it starts with absolutely no description.

[D]

No food.

[E]

Yeah, we're 10 minutes into this. There's no.

[D]

Okay, I was counting how many. Yeah, counting how many sentences until you mentioned food. And then I lost track.

[B]

Well, well, here's the thing, you guys. They just said they wanted it to be slice of life. Okay?

[D]

So notice life.

[B]

Not everything is you making a meal. It's about like your process of the day and where you ate. Right. Sometimes you're cooking at home, sometimes you're going out.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

But listen, if you read all five.

[B]

Days, there's lots of meal eating. Josh made a lot of recipes from.

[A]

Our cookbook that are so good, and.

[B]

I share all about that.

[A]

And then I do have a lot of snacks. My nickname was Snacks Kenzie.

[E]

For a while, your nickname was Snacks. And Hambone. At a certain point in your life, Snacks Kinsey. Oh, Snax Kinsey.

[B]

You gotta get it right, Sam. Snacks Kinsey and Hambone. Cause I always have snacks.

[A]

Always.

[B]

Even right now, I've got some snacks.

[D]

I love it.

[C]

That is very true, lady. But listen, I know we have been teasing you, but I, like, genuinely, truly loved this food journal, like, as a piece of writing, and I have been doing a ton of reading since I have been in Chicago. And this was one of my favorite things that I have read, like, in a long time, actually. It took me on a journey. It made me think about how food connects us with other people. I mean, the idea of the article is that you're supposed to describe five days of food in your life, but it just. It becomes so much more than that. And it's because you wrote it, lady. And I just love seeing five days of your life through your eyes, which is just. It's kind, it's funny, it's detailed, it's entertaining. I just loved it.

[B]

Well, Jenna, thank you so much. That is a huge compliment coming from you. You are an avid reader, so I take that as high praise, and I'm excited for everyone to read it. I had a ton of fun doing this. Josh says maybe I should write a book called Journal Entries and Other Things Someday. We'll see.

[D]

It's gonna be great. I'm so excited. I'm hooked.

[B]

Aw, thanks, you guys.

[C]

And then, Sam, Angela and I need to confront you about something.

[E]

Uh. Oh.

[B]

I mean, confront sounds a bit light on me.

[C]

I did that as, like, a tease to get people to sort of, like, sit up straight.

[D]

What are they gonna say?

[B]

Sam, do you have a podcast? You have a new podcast you didn't even tell us about? I mean, I am just like, what?

[C]

Angela sends me a message. She's like, did you know about this? I was like, sam has a podcast.

[B]

Sam, you got to tell your aunties when you get a podcast.

[C]

I know.

[E]

Okay. I am in the process of recording that. The first episode's almost done. I just announced it. We hadn't been in studio. I would have mentioned it on air. Yeah, it's called Sweet Tooth. It's about my love of candy. The first episode is about the history of M&Ms.

[D]

But.

[C]

But to be fair, I saw this clip that you posted. It is. It is about that. Maybe, but includes, how shall I say, Your subversive sense of humor.

[E]

Yes. So there's lots of tangents on the podcast.

[C]

Tangents?

[D]

Yes.

[B]

You know, we love a tangent.

[E]

At one point, I call a marriage attorney to see if I could legally MARRY M&MS, like Pee Wee says to. At one point, I got it. I almost spoke to somebody, but I got pretty far up the ranks calling NASA. I wanted to see if the Challenger still would have exploded if it had a candy shell like an Eminem.

[C]

Sam, that is so dark.

[E]

I know.

[C]

So dark. This is what I'm saying. Like, is it the history of Eminem?

[E]

We do talk about M&MS. Very much.

[C]

Am I gonna learn about the M and M at any point?

[E]

Yes, you are. Yes. Forrest Mars Sr. The guy who created M&M's, found M&M. By watching civil Revolutionary War children fighting and eating this chocolate that didn't melt in their hands. And then he came back to the US and he said, I can sell that myself.

[D]

Wow.

[C]

Are you sure you want to? That's a big nugget. Okay.

[E]

Yeah. Sweet tooth comes out on Halloween.

[B]

Oh.

[D]

It's a perfect time, perfect timing.

[E]

So I basically wanted each hour to be like, you're spending an hour in my brain of how my brain works of, like, thinking of a topic, thinking of a tangent. And now I can't get back to that first topic until I have to know the answer. Answer to this tangent. And then when we get back to.

[B]

Work, this is the Sam Rabbit Hole. Sam Rabbit Hole.

[C]

In the way that Angela's journaling delights me, your brain also delights me. So I look forward to this.

[E]

Good.

[A]

Cassie, I saw that you did an improv festival. Is this right?

[B]

Really? Did you? You did a festival? Sketch comedy festival.

[A]

I thought you did. You would remember.

[B]

You would remember this detail.

[E]

How many festivals do you do?

[D]

Yeah, I'm doing an improv show Friday night, and it is to promote an up and coming D and D comedy show that I'm in. Doing puppetry for.

[E]

Wait, wait, doing puppetry? Don't bury the lead there. Yeah, I love puppets. This is a live stage show. Yeah. Elaborate.

[D]

Yeah. I don't think I've said this on the podcast, but I'm a quarter Japanese, and I'm part of a comedy group called Asian af, which is all Asian American comedians. And a group of us are doing, like, a D and D show. And so for the D and D show, there's like a Dungeon Master. And then each comedian is playing, is developing and playing a character. And I'm playing a warlock. And I pitched doing a puppet because in college I did a lot of puppetry, and I just haven't done it in a long time. So I have, like, puppets sitting in my closet.

[E]

And so much Cassie lore that you're dropping at once.

[B]

So many nuggets.

[E]

I've known you a decade now. You just casually mentioned I did a lot of puppetry in college. Go on, elaborate.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did a lot of, like, first stage.

[C]

Build the puppet.

[B]

Yeah. Where do the puppets come from?

[D]

I have friends that are really good at building puppets. I would help them or they'd help me build a puppet. But that's like, sewing is not my forte. So it's more like I get a puppet and then create a character off of it.

[B]

How do you hold the puppet?

[D]

It's like Jim Henson style. It's like a felt puppet. And then you use your left hand to operate the arms and then do the head.

[B]

Is amazing.

[D]

It's really cute.

[E]

Can we hear a preview of the voice you use?

[D]

No, no, no.

[B]

Come on, come on.

[D]

I'll send you. I'll send, like, a clip of me doing the character, but I honestly haven't done the character in so long that I have to, like, rehearse, get it to come back to me.

[B]

I totally respect that, and especially if it's part of the puppetry. Like, I would love to see it, though.

[D]

I don't, like, consider myself, like, a weird puppeteering purist, but I do feel like I don't do the character unless the puppet's, like, on.

[B]

I respect that.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

I think, Cassie, I do a much better Sonny voice if Sonny is there, because I'm really channeling him.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

You know, it's harder for me to do his voice when I'm just, like, by myself.

[E]

Jenna, let me ask you a Sonny question. This is open to anybody in with pets. Has anybody ever flown with their pet before?

[C]

Oh, yeah. I used to fly with my cat, Andy. Andy.

[B]

Sorry, Andy.

[C]

Andie is how he pronounced it. And I think he was part franche. I'm not sure. It's a little franch. Yeah. And I've flown with Sonny as well.

[E]

I've got the carrier over my shoulder. I'm flying home to Milwaukee with ramen for the first time in two weeks, and he does not like his carrier. He's never been in one. So, like, I was going to ask, did you introduce your cat to the Carrier beforehand or like, do you have any flying advice? Did you medicate Andy?

[C]

I did not medicate them. Andy had traveled so much in his carrier from the time he was little, you know, to and from college with me all the way out to la and then I would fly home with him. So he was pretty comfortable and sunny. Just going to the vet and stuff. So no, I didn't do any kind of like carrier training. That's a tough one. I talked to your vet about it though, because, you know, you definitely don't want ramen to be super stressed.

[A]

Stressed.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I think that the most stressful part for my pets is that when you go through security, you have to remove them from the carrier, put the carrier through, and then you carry them through the metal detector security thingy and then put them back into the carrier. And one time Andy bolted.

[E]

Really? Got loose.

[C]

Yep, he got loose. And then of course, people are trying to be helpful so they're chasing him, but I'm like, no, no, no. He'll only let me pick him up. Don't chase the cat.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

So of course I got him back. But that was an adventure.

[E]

Okay.

[B]

Yikes. I was on a plane recently and there was a lady that had a. The cat was like the long haired, gray, all gray kind of cat, you know.

[E]

Oh, sure, yeah.

[B]

And they were. She had it in the carrier and was walking down the aisle and the whole way down you just heard this cat and it was just like. I was like, oh, buddy.

[E]

I went to New York four or five years ago. I had a connecting flight both directions, so four total airplanes. I sat next to a dog all four flights. Really?

[B]

No.

[E]

It was the best day of my life.

[B]

Did you go buy a lottery ticket?

[D]

No.

[E]

Exactly. It was incredible.

[B]

One thing, Cassie, your D and D thing made me think of something. My cousin Wade. Shout out to Wade in Olney, Texas, sent me this this morning. He said, ang, look what I bought today. He plays Magic the Gathering.

[D]

Oh, I know about that.

[B]

Do you guys know that there's like a whole. Is it Dwight?

[D]

Dwight? Yeah, it's like a Dwight series. Magic the Gathering. Yeah.

[B]

I mean, does Rain know this?

[C]

Look, Jonah, he does know. He knows. Yeah, he. I talked to him about it.

[E]

Really?

[B]

Wow.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

That's incredible.

[C]

Oh, guys, speaking of rain, I have to talk about his movie, Code 3.

[E]

Oh, yeah, I saw you post on social media about it.

[C]

It is so good. Like, it's truly wonderful. It is so funn. But it is so earnest and lovely. It is not cynical. I loved it. What's it called again, Code Three.

[E]

Code three.

[C]

Especially if you love the Pit.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

Okay.

[C]

This movie is like what the Pit is to, like, emergency room doctors and nurses and everything. This is to EMTs. EMTs. Yeah. Like, they are the. What's the other word for them?

[E]

Paramedic.

[C]

Paramedics, yes. Thank you. And Rain plays a paramedic. And you get to see a whole day in a paramedic's life, like a full 24 hours. And it is. Oh, God, it's so good. And it's like, it's funnier than the Pit, but it has that element of the pit where it's just so human. So shout out to Rain for that. It was written by Patrick Pianza and Christopher Lyonne and directed by Christopher Lyonne. And I always just like to shout out the writer and director.

[E]

Yeah, great.

[B]

It's in our queue.

[C]

And since I'm shouting out movies, guys, here's another thing. Since I've been in Chicago and my kids have been back in LA with Lee, going to school every evening after I do the play, I come home and I have to kill, like, 90 minutes while I wind down. So I have watched so many shows, I have watched so many movies. I never have time for this in la. So I'm going to shout out another movie, Broke. I don't know if you've heard of this movie. Stars Wyatt Russell and Auden Thornton. Absolutely. Again, so charming, so human. Beautiful acting. It's about a guy who rides broncos and, like, the effect that it's having on his body and everything.

[B]

So he's like a rodeo cowboy and he's going around riding, doing the bronco ride.

[E]

And what was it called again?

[C]

It's called Broke.

[E]

Broke. Okay.

[C]

And it's written and directed by Carlisle Eubank, and it's very, very good.

[E]

Okay.

[C]

Those are my little movie shout outs. I've also read tons of books.

[B]

You're sounding a lot like Taylor Swift. Did you see her trailer today? The end of the ERAS tour, Like, movie that's coming out?

[C]

No, there's another movie coming out. I went to her showgirl launch movie thing with my daughter.

[B]

It's coming out in December. And lady, it's all the behind the scenes of how they did the ERAS tour. There's a shot of her. She's taken off all her makeup and she's like. Well, basically, for me to wind down from that performance, I have to watch, like, hours of, like, TV and movies and stuff.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

And I.

[C]

And I.

[B]

And I thought of you. I was like, well, Jenna and Tay.

[C]

Tay, we have so much in common. There's so much we could talk about. We'll talk about our wind down routine.

[E]

You guys should tour together.

[C]

We really should.

[B]

Yes, you guys should do a tour together. And you know what? I'll journal about it and Cassie will do the puppet show and Sam will do a really sort of like edgy podcast about this.

[D]

Podcast about it.

[C]

Oh, guys, this was wonderful. Hey, one more thing before we go. October is breast cancer awareness month.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

I'm realizing that it was one year ago that I revealed my breast cancer diagnosis to the world. And with this anniversary, I've been reflecting a little bit. I want to just take this moment to again encourage people to please go do their self exams, get their mammograms. You can do this test where you kind of enter in all this information about yourself so that if you're under 40 years old, you might qualify for a mammogram just based on your family history. And that's really important to do too, because in my advocacy work around this, I have met so many women under the age of 40 who are being diagnosed with breast cancer. And so it's not just for us older ladies. It's just really important not to ignore anything. And just in that vein, like, get your colonoscopy, do your skin check. Like, just check it all. Because 100% early detection is why I was able to get treated and why I'm now off in Chicago doing a play and living my best life. So for sure, for sure. But yeah, a lot has happened in this year. Oh, I guess I can. I'll give an update. I finished my herceptin infusions. I got my port out.

[B]

Yeah, Jenna, I was talking about, say where, where are you at now in this journey, if you don't mind sharing with. Sure.

[C]

Yeah. So I'm done with all of the treatment except for the five years of tamoxifen, which is a hormone blocker. And what that does is it blocks my body from absorbing estrogen. So basically, I'm like a woman in menopause in medieval times. Like, I don't get any hormonal support. I just have to just white knuckle my way through it. But I've been on it for a year.

[A]

Way to go.

[C]

20% finished.

[E]

Nice.

[C]

I'm tolerating it pretty well. I think I'm tolerating it well because of the weightlifting that I'm doing.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

So if there's a lady out there. Right, Sam, I know we traded messages about weightlifting.

[E]

That's Right.

[C]

And there's any ladies out there who are about to start a tamoxifen journey or on a tamoxifen journey, I highly recommend weightlifting. I also recommend acupuncture. That has helped my hot flashes so much. Also, I'm sorry to say, avoiding sugar and alcohol has also really helped me with the hot flashes. And being really, really strict about my sleep schedule, like, really sleeping is so important to me. Being able to tolerate some of the side effects of the drug. And. And yeah, I emotionally. Emotionally is a whole thing. I forgot about the breast cancer and all of it while I was doing this play, but now that I'm getting ready to come back to la, it's on my mind again. I have to go get my next round of scans again. All the checkups, all the doctor's appointments, all the stuff like, it. It happens. It's like, I got this break, and I think that's the thing that I've been talking to a lot of women about, which is that when the treatment ends, it doesn't end. Like, there really is no end. You are a breast cancer patient for the rest of your life. You will be monitored for the rest of your life. And also, like, once you've gone to one of those sort of like routine appointments that you just expect to be like, you did it, you're fine. Come back next year. Like, once you've gone to one of those appointments and gotten bad news, it just creates this little part of you that you're like, oh, bad news is possible. At least for me, where it's like, oh, I could have a bad result. And I think I just always taken for granted. I don't know. So anyway, I've got a little anxiety there, sure. But that's my recap, everybody. But I'll tell you the big news. I'm really happy. I'm really happy. I am really living my best life. And I feel like the whole experience brought me closer to people and closer to what's important to me in life.

[B]

That's great.

[C]

I'm really grateful, ultimately, so. Well, thanks for listening, everybody. Thank you.

[E]

Yeah, yeah, of course.

[B]

Oh, wait.

[C]

Before we go, before we go, Ang, I want to tell people about our idea that we had for an Office Ladies episode that is inspired by Friday Chitchats. Okay, here it is. We want to do an episode, a full chit chat episode of Office Ladies with a special guest tbd. And we want to chit chat with you. We want you guys involved. So we asked Iliana to make a folder for the Office Lady's website called I believe, Chit Chat Ideas. Because we are going to chit chat off of your suggestions. So not like episode suggestions, but just chit chat. Slave. Slice of life. Slice of life suggestions. And Angela, you will put a swipe up, right?

[A]

Yes, I will put a swipe up in our Insta stories.

[B]

I can't wait to hear from you guys. This is going to be so much fun.

[C]

All right, well guys, that's our Friday chit chat. Yeah, well done.

[A]

All right, you guys have a great.

[B]

Rest of the week and I love you. Bye.

[C]

See you then. See you later.

[B]

See you later.

[C]

Thank you for listening to Office Ladies.

[B]

Office Ladies is a presentation of Odyssey and is produced by Jenna Fisher and Angela Kinsey.

[C]

Our executive producer is Cassie Jerkins. Our audio engineer is Sam Kieffer and our associate producer is Ainslie Bubaco.

[B]

Odyssey's executive producer is is Leah Reese Dennis.

[C]

Office Ladies was mixed and mastered by Bill Schultz.

[B]

Our theme song is Rubber Tree by Creed Bratton.

[C]

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